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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Everybody were back in this bitch.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Your boys came hard today. The cuts are back of
this hope all right, low Ki, I have to tell
you guys right now, we just had like a thirty
minute fucking combo and we realized that the camera wasn't
even on yet. So the good news is is that
we're warm the fuck up to entertain you properly. The
bad news is that you missed out on the best
content of the night.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You missed out on such a story that I'm also Saturdays.
We aren't even were supposed to. We're gonna cut it anyways,
but that conversation give you a little glimpse kidding.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
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b slash unibomber slash.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
We got a twenty three to nineteen if you know,
you know.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I just watching the movie left.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
If y'all have never seen me again on the pod,
they can tell you what happened, Andy, but we spin
it for you though.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
They all gonna start coming diving as soon as they
found out.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
But that's the whole reason why we brought the whole
reason we brought that up that we can't even fucking
talk to you guys about right now because and ongoing invest.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
They gave yes, was there was a story.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
And this obviously you guys are because it let up
to this, But did you guys see this? There was
this I think people online were called him the worst
neighbor ever. Obviously they haven't heard about this stories. Is
that all yet? But for the time being, right, he
was super annoyed this guy. Bro, he was he was
he was a med student. He was super annoyed with
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this upstairs neighbors. Right. The reason why upstairs neighbors just
had a baby, motherfucker crime as they do. Right. So
this neighbor was like, you know what, I'm tired of
this baby, I'm tired of all this noise. I'm trying
to sleep and going to med school board these inconsiderate fucks.
So what he did in med school he cooked up
a little concoction basically poison, right. So he started, you know,
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kind of injected in the bottom of the door so
that the fumes would go into the apartment.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Nah, bro, you're gonna talk about the sickness. That's where
it all let up the family.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Bro, let me cook, brot me. You gave it out
the good ship already. No, but they start to feel sick.
I'm leaving that ship. Look, they start to feel sick, right,
Mom and dad are like, man, I'm not feeling good.
So they're like, what what is going on? So they
put a little ring camera hidden but face their door.
So they saw this guy, the med student every day
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early is fuck in the morning, going and start the
injector ship caught his ass in four K. Obviously fucking
police get involved or whatever, and they take a sample. Solution, Bro,
it's legit poison. So that's what led up to worse neighbors. No, Evan,
you can't tell your story, but I'm curious if there's
a different situation if you've had of shitty neighbors. Maybe
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not trying to kill you yet, but something along those lines.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Real quick before Lucas shares anything. So what ended up
happening with the investigation? That's like attempted murder?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
No, he's for that. Boy is in jail. They're shipping
his ass back to China. Where are the fuck he's from?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah, I don't he ain't finished in med school.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, hell no, bro, But you know what though, now
that as you said that that's probably one of the
scariest people you can be in jail with, Bro, somebody
who knows how to make mm Like, who what are
you more scared of, Bro? Just getting mouthfucked or somebody
who could be putting mouth but somebody that could be
putting POISONO ship that you don't know? What if that's
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your seally, Bro.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, I mean, but if it's my seally, I'm not
as worried, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Because you got a mouthfuck him?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, certain, exactly, you got man, you're cooking up poison
for the next door guys, right because there are those
guys are the shittiest neighbors on earth, all right, Yeah,
at least other guys.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That are trying to mouthfuck you go do whatever exactly what?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
At least you know that he kills neighbors.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
So if you're his seali, you safe because you're taking
me in the same residence, s Bro, your family, You're right,
you're right. Well we cooking to night, yo, you're helping
them or not?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I mean, look allegedly no, allegedly no.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But an any I'm trying to think I haven't had
anything crazy like that. The first apartment that I ever
moved out to Bro. Was this lady, Bro, We've already
on point. So I would get home from work like
around I worked in downtown Chagago. By the time I
got home, Bro, it's probably like e thirty, so you know,
everybody's asleep. I'm like, fuck, let me go a little
doobie outside. So I'm sitting on the steps and around
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like nine or ten. I see her leave every day
a backpack, purse smelling fabulous, but sweatpans every day. So
I would tell Kim, I like, yo, I think Shorty's
a stripper, like I don't know. And then Bro, but
it was like clockwork every single day, Monday through Sunday,
like there was no days off. She was by her bread.
So one day I'm out there, high as fuck. We're
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making some kind of that solid well of course you
know you come to my house of course, yeah, yeah,
of course beer, of course, Bro, and we need what
more you need?
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So one but she comes out and then I'm brom zooted.
I'm like, hey, this is my this is you know,
she's like his high offer a plate or whatever, and
I'm just like, listen, I got a question, like my
wife and I kind of want to know, like are
you a stripper? Like, like, what do you do for work?
You know, bro, I'm twenty two, stupid ass question as
at twenty two, Yeah she was. She starts laughing. She's like, no,
I'm a nurse, laugh and left, and I'm looking at
her like stop the cap. She hits the blunt and
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she said, come see me in Chicago. She told me
the name of the strip club. I don't want to
say it, but she's like, comes, just come say hi.
Hit yeah blood left And then I looked at it
and I'm like, I don't know, white off and I
still hit it broke.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah. Did you guys have any I don't know. Did
you guys go to actually I don't even know this.
Did you guys go to college?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Okay, So so during college, especially in Montana, like the
big thing was to do there is you know, you
get college houses, group of you know, a group of
guys typically uh, anywhere from two four or five guys
like based on the house. But I had literally just
a series of just and all of it. To be honest,
it was never like really any crazy neighbors. Like it
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was self inflicted one thousand percent. We we were the
crazy fucking neighbors. Bro that just like every but like
all the day were suck like everybody. Yeah, to like
basically summarize, like my first ever like apartment that I had,
like by myself, was like a two bedroom spot. I
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ended up getting kicked out because they thought I was
like a drug dealer because I always had like so
many like well maybe some drugs, but more more just
along the lines of like I always had people over
the house and it was just a revolving like party.
Like I'm not gonna liebro. I I went to school
long enough to be a doctor. I didn't end up
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being a doctor, didn't get the doctorate or anything like
that or any any Yeah, I got your classical uh
business management degree, say bro. And uh So, like the
first apartment, they were like, you know, like you know, yeah,
we've had a lot of suspicion on, like you know
what you got going on in your place. You know,
there's a lot of people coming in and out this
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that and whatever, like just straight like bullshit. So they
pretty much booted me out, like my first apartment, and
that was just the start of like my college like
fucking chaos. We literally we literally went to a house
right after that, and that house ended up just being
this like insane party house. We had a basement that
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was unfinished. It didn't even have carpet, it was just
like cement floor. So we literally just turned it into
like your fucking a party dungeon. We'd packed that fucker
with like seventy five to one hundred people every single
weekend kegs. Fucking dude just straight sweat bulleting straight. And
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the craziest part was bro Is We actually had neighbors
that were super close to us, and they were the
by far the oldest and the squarest neighbors of any
of the houses I had throughout college. But for some reason,
they always just I think they were so old. I
think their hearing was so shitty that by the time
we were fucking raging at like midnight, they were just
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you know, fucking knocked out cold. You see the light
in the bedroom, Yeah, it's like, yeah, fucking Graham and
Grandpa walk into their bedroom, you know. But the actually
never caused us any issues. But the one house that
I'll just share like a quick story on because this
was this was probably by far, like this was at
the peak of my college fuckery. We we had this party.
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I don't know if you guys ever did these when
when you're younger, but like themed parties.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
We had this party. It was called g I Joe's
and Army Hose, and the guys dressed up in fucking
military gear. Women wore slutty little military outfits, fucking camo
skirts and fucking tits out the whole fucking nine. And uh,
there was a essentially a I ended up. I used
to do this at the end because my parties were
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getting so big. We would we would make Facebook groups
just to get like a grasp on like how many
people were coming. So I'd launch a Facebook group and
I'd send out a fucking blast and then I would
leave the event shareable. So ended up, dude, We ended
up having like a thousand people confirmed to like a
fucking house party.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Bro, even if only half. Are you guys supplying all
the liquor and shit or it's.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Like we would be baby yes. So I mean most
college parties it's like bring your own beer. I mean
we were we were always known for like having like
hell alcohol just because we're just s. We like, we
we literally had like kegs every weekend. We'd have leftover
kegs from fucking three yeah. Yeah, yeah, And it's like, dude,
back then, I'm gonna be honest, like I'm thirty seven, bro.
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So like when I was like partying like twenty one,
twenty two, like early twenties, Like, bro, you get you
get a fifteen or a thirty pack of like Budstone
Baby bush Light, bud Light, like fourteen ninety nine.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
So it's like, think about that's thirty beers. You got
ten guys who all throw in twenty bucks. Like, imagine
how many thirty packs I mean you can get. You
can get ten thirty backs. You get three hundred beers
for fuck you know.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Just we always had.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
It's funny that you say that, though, because we always
had and I'm not condoning this by anything, but we
had a designated beer run guy who every single night
went to the same exact store at the same fucking
time and walked out with fucking like six fucking thirty shit.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah. But anyway, this party that obviously had a thousand people,
it by far got to be like the most out
of control party we ever had. There was a massive
brawl in our basement, and I'm talking fun guys getting
knocked out, girls getting knocked out. Fuck dudes walking out
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with noses that are like over here, like broken noses.
Like I don't want to say any names, but it was.
It got fucking messy, bro. Okay, Well, they were down
in the basement and it got to be such chaos.
People like women were getting knocked out, Guys were getting
knock up, people that weren't even trying to fight. There
was so many elbows and throw so much shit being thrown,
Bottles getting thrown, cans getting thrown like, so people went
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into panic mode.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
R and dude Jobo.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
People were busting the windows out of my fucking basement
to get out. So this party turned into a crazy party,
into a brawl, and then it turned into Yo, we
got a fucking problem. People were upstairs downstairs, all this
shit was going on. People were jumping out of windows,
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falling out of windows. And in the midst of all
of this, I finally get upstairs. I got windows broken
all in upstairs and downstairs. I walk out my front door, bro,
and it looks like I'm at like Allegiant Stadium after
a fucking like football game. There is ambulances, There is
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fucking multiple fire trucks and there's probably like six cop
cars and I'm like and I'm like, bro, what in
the fuck. And the cops are like like running to
the door, What the fuck is going on here? I
was like, Yo, there's a brawl in the basement. Go in,
go down there, do what you guys gotta do. But dude,
and it ended up being such a crazy ass party.
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It ended up ended up making the fucking one of
like the main stories in the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
And this is why you don't rent your house to college.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
That was the first time you have to go with viral.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, so he was a I can't remember. It was
like it was like I can't remember what was what
the fucking headline was, bro, But like ship was wild,
and I just remember on campus for like probably a month,
people were like, yo, like that was your house because like, dude,
it was like it was just I don't want to
say legendary because it was kind of some people got
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real fucked up, bro, including women. So I'm just like, yeah,
we gotta we gotta fucking chill. So yeah, long story short,
that house that was the that was the final straw.
We end up. Yeah, we end up, we end up
getting we end up getting booted out of that one.
But the funniest what makes us even better. When I
was in college, I got the previous the the apartment
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I got kicked out. My dad was funding my college
experience at the time, and he was like, you know, hey,
like I don't really give a ship what the rent is,
just make sure it's kind of similar to what you
were paying for your two bedroom apartment. So my ass
I had this three bedroom house all to myself. So
it was just me living there. So it wasn't like
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I had like roommates to help out with anything or nothing.
Like I'd basically straight like go to my parents and
be like, hey, guys, So the house is literally destroyed
from head to toe. The windows are busted out of
the house, like the carpets are fucking toast upstairs because
there's been so much alcohol and fucking beer and ships
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fucking spilt like everywhere. Yeah, bro, fucking yo, couches, couches
look like you know, it's just oh man.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
It was it was like that bro makes me nervous
about uh neighbors, you know.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, yeah, well so that's what I was I was
trying to think like I've I've had good neighbors in
my life, and I've had bad neighbors in my life.
But ultimately, what I've realized is that the bad neighbors
are way worse than any good neighbor could ever be, right,
And so that's why it was important for me to
get a place with land to where.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Like, I love my neighbors.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Now everyone minds their own business, but mainly because they're
fucking far away, you know what I mean, Like it's
nice having your own fucking space because, let's face it,
just living near people fucking suck.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Dude. Yeah, what's your etiquette with neighbors? Bro? I was
talking to Kim about this because we're like three weeks
away from from Keys, yeah, and it's like we only
we're really gonna have one. We have a corner lot, right,
so it's like all right, cool, We just like growing
up to my dad was always like yo, go shove
with their neighbors driveway. It was those two old ladies.
So let's just do that. When we make food, we're
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gonna have a party. Like we're gonna have a party, right,
But Dad's kind of like the same day, like a
half acre, so it's like the whole backyard bro is
like everything fucking family is huge, right, So it was like, yo,
let's let's go bring them a plate, make sure everything
is cool, and just let them know, hey, we're gonna
have a little party like whatever. And over years it
was kind of like whatever because they knew the radus
some food, they'll bring us ship And it's like my
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wife family's brother, complete opposite. They're so like you see
your neighbor and they kind of run inside because I
don't want to say high yeah, you know what I mean.
So it's like for me, it's like, what's the edic? Well,
I guess here is different, right because you're far away,
But like are you friendly with these everybody over here?
So so here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And Vegas is just weird in my opinion, Like everyone's
so like uptight. But so I'm good with with most
of my neighbors, right like, and I've gone to like
the HOA meetings and stuff like that, so I've met
a majority of everyone's pretty cool. But like I said,
everyone for the most part just keeps themselves. I'm really
cool with these guys over here, Like it's an older
couple and like their kids live there with their kids,
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you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So it's I'll go over there.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
I'll whenever when I have food or something like that,
or if I see that he needs help with the
yard work. He's an older guy, you know, I'll help
him out. But aside from that, like a friendly wave
because no one, Like I've invited the younger neighbors across
the street to like house parties and stuff that we've
done here and they never showed up.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yah. I was gonna ask you that, like do you
do you guys invite them over? And she's like, my
dad's huge on that, like yeah, we'll have a bet
with people in the front and be like, hey, we're
making food in them like yeah, my son went told
us some shit like come come by, and it's just
like okay. And then now it's like they're going fast
forward a few weeks. They're like, hey, we're gonna take
the boat out, you want to go whatever. So it's like,
I don't know, I think that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, I'm just saying I'm just gonna say, like I
find it really strange when like you like live in
a neighborhood and you don't want to like at least
get to know. I mean, I'm not saying like if
Lucas has something going on like fucking once a month
every month. It's not you have to go over to
Lucas's every single month. But it's like you think in
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a neighborhood, you'd want to be cool with your neighbors.
You want to have like that relationship a little bit.
And like I think me, like, I'm super outgoing person.
But even if I wasn't like an outgoing person or
like to socialize, I think I would still like force
myself like, hey, like we got to go hang out
with these guys a little bit. There are neighbors like
we want to feel comfortable, like you know, if you're
I think like me personally, Like I imagine when I'm in
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a neighborhood and I'm out of town and I got
something going on, if I ever need help at my
house or like something's you know, emergency or something like,
you want you want your neighbors to be cool with you.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Well, actually it's a funny story. I got something for
you guys, because this is actually a pretty funny story.
So this was fourth of July. Me and my girl
wanted to go out on the balcony and watch the fireworks. Right,
So we're up here on the upstairs, go out on
the balcony. We're watching the fireworks, and like it's late
at night. You know, we're normally in bed early anyway.
So I'm in my box or she's in her little
nighty or whatever, right, and accidentally the door locked from
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the inside. Shit, this would the one on the balcony. Yeah,
so it locked, and so we can't get in. And
as I don't know if you guys have been on
the balcony, but there's no stairs, so I mean I
can maybe jump down, I'd probably fuck myself up pretty good.
So I was like, that's not a thing. So I'm
trying to like flag people down, but they couldn't hear me.
Like people were walking by on the street in the back,
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cause I can open up I have my phone, I
can open up my garage and let someone in to
come in. But then it's like, who do you trust?
I can't just let anyone in, right, So it was
it was like a sketchy thing. And then so you know,
twenty minutes goes by thirty minutes, and we're just like
trying to get a waking out a little bit. I mean,
because it's like, once again, could I scale down? I
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feel like I could, but once again I could definitely
damage myself. I think you can clear the pool once again?
Is it worth not being able to but thinking you can?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
So it's it's like it's just sketchy and honey fourth
lyney exactly right.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So it s so like the.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Work's going off, you're fucking yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
So I'm in my boxers and she's in her ninety
and so it gets to that point where it's like,
I mean, I can maybe try and clear it, but
if I miss paramedics, that's how.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Fourth of July is going to night, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
So I end up calling some of my neighbors, and
so the neighbor that I had that picked up at
the time was out of town, and I was like,
anyone else, you know.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So he ends up plugging me in with.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Another guy that I hadn't even met, and this nice
gentleman walks over. I open up the garage, he comes in,
sees me in my boxers and whatever, and I'm like,
thank you so much, man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
You can go now, he's like, it's just.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like, nice, my boxers, here's my cock, and it's time
for you to go.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, and I mean and on his aspect, because the
older guy very nice, like he was sketched out, because
it like the whole scenario seems sketched. Hey, I'm going
to open up my garage. I just need you to
come in, come upstairs, and the house that he's never
been through. So I'm like literally navigating him up to
my room and shit, and I'm like, I just need
you to open up the door. It's locked from the
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outside and I don't have a staircase to get down.
But anyway, so he ended up helping us out. But
those are the scenarios where like I agree, like I
feel like you should get to know your neighbors, and
I am big like your dad about like being friendly
with the neighbors. But it's like after I invite you
once twice and you just don't show up, and now
I just don't fucking invite you. And it's like the
older folks, I'm not gonna invite because they don't want
to fuck you. But I did make it a point,
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especially when we first moved in. Here's another funny story.
First week that we moved in here, the cops knock
at my door and I'm like, what's going on. He's like, hey,
I noticed that you have cameras all set up and
I was like, we just got them installed, but they're
not on yet, right, And he's like, oh, well, that's
a bummer. I'm like, why, what's going on? He was like, well,
I was hoping you had footage because apparently the two
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neighbors over here got into some altercation about like, your
shit's on my property and I have so a gun
gets brandish. Yeah, and there they're older white people, so
it's not like and yeah, there was no shoot danger,
but it was just like I got gun.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
So so it was like that level of scenario. But
that was our first week here and since then though,
I whatever, it's water under the bridge to me. But
I was like, I make it a point to let
everyone know our first party. Hey, we're having a party.
If there is any issues, here's my number, please call.
Knocked it until I knocked. Yeah, I knocked. Here's my number.
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I'm the new neighbor. Nice to meet you, blah blah blah.
If there's any problems ever, if you guys need anything,
reach out see for.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Like, that's so interesting, bro, because like me and can
we go back and forth on this shit. Like for me,
that's that's a normal behavior, but probably because I've seen
it happen to other people, I'm thinking my generation, bro,
Like I'm trying to like if somebody did that to me,
knocked on my door, Hey, what's going on? Not your
new neighbor whatever, I would think that's cool because I'm friendly.
There's also a part of me that's like that's some
psychopathic shit to just come up and like, hey, how
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are you doing? I moved across like you know what
I mean? But I don't see it that way. But
I can also see how somebody who maybe doesn't think
that way it could be come off crazy. And maybe
it did, you know what I mean. Maybe it's like
a fifty to fifty I don't know. I don't know.
But like that's the other cool thing too, where it's
like somebody brought this up to me, like we're moving
into this is a whole new neighborhood, bro, Like I'm
not coming into somebody else's Like yeah, you're pioneering exactly,
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and I got a corner lot, bro, So I'm kind
of like the Big Kings. It's kind of bigger than
everybody else's. I'm just trying, you know what I mean,
Like it is what it is. So it's like I
don't know, like like Kim likes to bake, so I'm
kind of like, yo, should we make like But it's
also I'm like, that is that gay? Bro? Like like Abril,
we made you some cookies. I'm over here like yeah,
I don't know, Like I I think that's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
And in fact, every Christmas or so our first Christmas here,
next thing, you know, we're getting a bunch of knocks
on the door. They're just leaving fucking cookies and yeah,
just all of the neighbors in this community will just
start bringing out shit. So now it's a part of
our tradition. Now we know for Christmas we gotta be
on deck and we got to have stuff that we
can take out to the neighbors. So we did it
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last Christmas and took it out to It's cool.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
I'm like, I'm super excited for that, bro. But like
that's the other thing too, Like the other day, Bro,
I had this funny thought I was cleaning my golf clubs. Bro,
I'm in the backyard though, I'm in the garage. I'm
in the garage. I had to shit open, I got music,
I have a little beer, and I was just like,
I'm over here just cleaning ship. People coming by, that's
the thing. Though. My dad's been there for five years
and so they've seen me, so I say, what's up whatever,
and like it's kind of clicked for me, like y'
don't be doing the ship on my ship pretty soon,
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you know what I mean? Like when I cut King's hair, brow,
I keep the garage, they're open, and like people have
come up and be like, oh, do you cut kids hair?
And I'm like not really shit, yeah yeah, but it's
just like I don't know, I'm excited for that. But
it's funny. We've been talking about that protocol, like Yo,
should we go say hi? Like, I don't know, I'm
gonna do it, Like I think it's important to do
it for sure, Yeah, but it's just uh, yeah, I
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don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
You never know when you'll be stuck on your balcony
and you can use something that is.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So fucking because I can only imagine Bro, the terror,
not even terror, but like we are like, oh that
was cool, Like all right, it's hot, that's going side yeah,
and then like just the look that you guys give
each other. Bro, it's gotta be scary, but it's like
now I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah, but it was fucking Immediately I was like, why
the hell is there? Like it's one of those stupid
like you could push it in and it locks. So
there's the dead bolt, and then there's the handle lock,
and immediately I'm like, why the hell is there this
lock on this store?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah? Well the dead ball wasn't good enough, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So I've been curious because I want to know, have
you guys ever been like maybe on a date or
something like that, it's maybe not jiving as much as
you wanted, and you've maybe thought about leaving. But I
was curious, A if you guys have ever just straight
ditched on a date and B did you still end
up paying for the dinner?
Speaker 2 (24:40):
I got a funny store, but do you guys go first?
You guys go?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
So I'm gonna be honest, I'm a foodie. I ain't
walking out on my fucking meal.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Yeah, there's no world where I'm so.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
So I'm the kind of guy if I get myself
in a situation and I'm I'm out with somebody that
I'm like, Yo, this ain't going nowhere past this little
fucking meal. But I got myself in this situation, so
I got to ride it.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I got to eat my way out of it.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
So like I'm having like flashbacks of this, like back
in college where I've like this shit has happened to
me where it was like either on dating apps or
just like you know randoms that you you meet at
a party or meet out and then you end up
like going to grab like some lunch or dinner or whatever.
But yeah, I'm just kind of person who where I
can really talk with anyone, So I don't really I
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don't ever like to be really really really bad for
it to be so awkward and so bad where like
I couldn't like keep you know, something going to at
least like.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Would you say, oh yeahky.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
One hundred percent. I've like I've literally I mean, I'm
the kind of person I feel like I read people
very well and like I know real quick, like is
this gonna go anything past this? And I've had situations
where it's like it's I'm literally just like, you know,
having my drink, actually ordering hell of drinks to help
me get f and then you know, get that food,
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eat that ship as fast as possible, and you know,
I'm always gonna pay for that. But it's you know,
the way I look at it is like that bitch
and not getting.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Any more meals from me, you keep drinking the conversation.
It's more interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, let me, let me see
how many cocktails I can put down to make to
make this four. Maybe maybe look at seven too, and eight,
because we're at a four right now and this is
ain't getting fucking work.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
And I'm sick of hearing about your cats. But let's drink.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah, she still, yeah, she's telling me about her fucking cat,
her pet cats. She's got a fucking pet fish. I
didn't know she had fucking multiple kids. She got a
fucking couple of kids. I'm like, I'm like, where the
fucking the kids at. Oh, they're at home.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Just they're watching the cats.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I fucking yeah. She's like, oh, I just I just
dumped some cheerios and cheetos on the ground. They're just
you know, they're just eating and fucking watching some Barney
and some ship.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'm like, that's funny, dude. So I built my wife
through ten years, so like, and I was tender and
shit wasn't really out. So I was the only going
out with girls that I knew liked me. So I
don't think I've had bad dates. But like, yeah, yeah, bro,
I was I mean, Bro, I was shy as fuck,
but like, but it was always like friends of friends,
so like, you already known me, I've known you. So
I was like, I don't think I've had a bad date.
(27:22):
I like, no, but I remember the one of the
first times me and my and my wife hung out. Bro.
We were we went to see Ted two or Ted
one whatever, right, so you know, we get there, but
the ship starts and she's like, I got a the bathroom.
I was like, okay, cool, broll. This is probably our
second date, first or second date. In my mind, I
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was like, oh, she's gonna peat, but Bory, she picks
up her person. She just leaves.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh oh ship bro.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
So and I was just like, they didn't click to me,
to my thunder buddy, I was.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Like, bro, that's crazy. She took her fucking purpose. We
still talk about the shanw and Bro, she was. I mean,
like it's She's like I had to go take a ship,
Like I was just nervous, I had to go to bathroom.
But she was going for like six minutes. And there
was a part of me where I was like, I
paid for these two tickets. I got this bucket of popcorn,
I got a couple of words. Should I just leave
to like never remember this again? But I'm like, Yo,
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how funny would that be? Bro? I tell her. I
was like, I was like, Bro, you're luck. I was like,
you're lucky. This movie was funny because I was I
was about you didn't pinch that off. I wasn't about
to fucking leave. And then she comes back and then
she was like I'm sorry then, but it was like
a relief when I saw her come back, and I
was like, bro, But in my mind, I was like
I was this close from leaving. But the movie was
funny as fucking I'm like already paid for this shit,
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Like this was eighty bucks fucking staying here, right.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Yeah, But that was the time I was like I
almost left because all I was gonna say, I'm trying
to figure out there's this guy that apparently his date
wasn't going the way that he wanted it to go, right,
And so he gets to this fucking fancy dinner with
this girl.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
But this guy was.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
So fucking ten steps ahead that he made sure he
brought a fake wallet. So when he went to the bathroom,
he left the wallet on the table to give the
appearance that you know, I'm coming back, coming back. Guy
ends up fucking leaving. So the girl's showing the like post.
She's like, the restaurant closed like ten minutes ago. He's
been gone for thirty minutes. Here's his wallet. Pulls up
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his wallet. The shit's empty, ain't got nothing in it.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
There's some like.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Business cards, And I was like, this dog is bold, Bro.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Where's Ashton cut?
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Youre at?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
You just got punked?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
You gonna sit there and wait? I mean, what else
would you do? Right? Like? You leave? Well because his
car and my hasn't been paid. I know, but if
I'm like, oh, his wallet's right, he can't leave without
his wallet. But that's how you know this guy's good.
He would have tricked me, bro, I know.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
But I'm just saying, like, that's a whole new level
of dog. What have you ditching out on a date
like that, like just leaving her with a dummy wallet,
and then now she's stuck with the bill. She's been
sitting there way too long, the meal has clearly been
done for a while, restaurants closed, they're waiting to get paid.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
And get you out. It is what it is. If
I'm not vibing with you and I'm here, that's the
thing where you got to put yourself to that, to
that thing. If you're that uncomfortable, you're having these thoughts
about leaving.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Leave, okay, here here would be Here would be my
spin on this. I guess he obviously thought this out right,
and this is something that he's this is something he's
either done before or he already knew this date was
gonna be trash. So I'm the kind of person where
it's like, why are you putting yourself in that kind
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of situation? And I'll be honest, I feel that's kind
of like that's kind of a twenty twenty four like
bitch move now, where it's like, yo, just just be
the man, be a man, Like if you really can't
like finish a dinner with somebody, just be like, hey,
you know I don't think this is going to work out.
You know, lay fifty hundred bucks on the table whatever,
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like the meal is and fucking you know best, you know,
best of luck and dip out. Yeah that's how I
kind of am. And I feel like that God's a
bitch cop out.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah I agree. I was still pay but no, no, no,
because I didn't. I wasn't talking about that. I thought
we were talking about like but like leaving in general. Ye, no,
I was still paid, because that's crazy. But here's the
thing too.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
So this is actually perfect for like the story I'm
actually about to share. It is so important on a
first date that you make sure you go do this
at like a public fucking place or like a coffee
shop or a meal or something like that. So okay,
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so I made I made a mistake one time of
starting to chat with somebody. And I'll be honest, I
was like working a lot. I think I was just
I wasn't really feeling like going out to dinner. I
just wanted to chill. So she was like, you know, hey,
She's like, how about how about you order some food.
I'll pick it up and then I'll come over to
your spot. I'm like you know what, that sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I'm tired. I don't really feel like going anywhere. Yeah,
grab the food, you know, bring it over. So she
brings it over, and uh, she was cool.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
She was cool, like nothing like she was I was
gonna say, like it was like I wouldn't necessarily say
like I was like excited about like what this could
maybe be.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But I also wasn't like super turned off for like, yo,
fuck that bitch. I'm never hanging out with her again.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
She's brought you food.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
So like I had this apartment and it wasn't like
anything like crazy fancy nice. It was in like a
nice suburb. But like when you walk in my house,
I have a shoe problem, so like right off, like
kind of like my living room area, I had like
all of like my sneakers, and I have like hundreds
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of sneakers. Keep in mind, so I think this chick,
like she comes, you know, to this city where it's
it's a nice suburb, it's expensive to live. I bring
over to my house and immediately I think she started
thinking like dollar signs, like oh, this guy lives in
this nice area. You know, he's got like a pretty
nice little sweep.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
He's got.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You know, you walk in and he's got fucking fifty
thousand dollars and fucking sneakers or you know whatever sitting there. Okay, well,
you know we kicked it for a little bit. She
didn't stay over, didn't stay over. She last it was.
It was it was kind of mutual. I think it
was just like, yeah, so so you know, yeah, I
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get it through the movie. Yeah, yeah, you know, gave
you the gave.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
You the little hug.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
You know, you know, you have to give a little
something something. And she heads out.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
So I go to bed.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I'm super tired, I'm full knockout. I wake up about
I don't know it was. It was it was a Saturday,
I wasn't working, and it was like it was probably
like eight nine in the morning, and uh, I don't
got like a good morning text from her. A nothing.
I just have a I just have a link. It's
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just it's a link from Orbits Orbits like the booking website.
Orbits is like a Travelocity like Travelocity, a flight destination, hotel,
all inclusive resort site. Tell me, tell me why this
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chick just immediately gets the impression that she she doesn't
even need to say good morning to me. No nothing,
Hey I had fun with you last night. No, none
of that. She has the balls to fucking go to
orbits and she plans out an entire itinerary, seven day trip, flights, hotel, rooftop,
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fucking penthouse at this fucking all inclusive resort, the whole
fucking nine Yeah, and it's.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Like, she needs your credit card number.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
All she needed was my credit card number to fulfill
the itinerary. But she planned it all out. She sent
me the link to the shopping cart. That's what it
actually was. So so, so she goes in, she gets
two first class flights, seven day trip. Boom boom boom, dope, dope,
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is you know sweet in the fucking whole spot all inclusive?
Seven days? Da da da da da da da.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
And I'm just like, you should have hit her with it.
This is exactly where I was looking to take this
one girl. Thank you so much. Did you pay for
the door, dash and shit or what?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Crazy?
Speaker 1 (35:39):
So all all I said, I fucking I did, literally
said nothing more besides this, this is not going to
work out, goodbye. Like I was just like I was
blown away. I was like I was like, is this
what it's really like out here? And you keep in mind,
like this was this is when I would say I
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was like newer to the Bay Area, so like I
moved from Hawaii to the Bay and the Bay's just different, bro,
the Bays It's got a you know, based on where
in the Bay you live. It's different cultures, ethnicities, types
of people, mindset, mentality, you fucking name it. It just
it's a melting pot of like individuals. And yeah, I
think she just was like, Oh, got a you know, nice, nice,
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you know, white guy here that lives in you know,
this city, and you know he's he's you know, seems
like he's got money. I'm just gonna throw this out.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
There and shoot shot.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
See what happens.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
This is so insane.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
It was wild.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's pretty funny though. I like that one. You know,
I have a guy, bro, well if you I could
a few guys. But I live at the Waldorf. They
have told you about them. Bro. This dude every time
he gets take gets the heir go once a week
and he's always like, Yo, look at this thing I'm
about to have over. He's from Canada, used to be
a hockey player, or whatever. He shows me and I'm like, damn,
what you about to do? He's like, I was like,
what's your strategy with it? Like that? He's not an
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ugly dude, but like these girls where I'm like, well
this this, this can't be like a real person, you
know what I mean? Like this is just good god looking,
you know. He's like, well, I always tell him to
me me, you know, at like Javiera's is right downstairs,
you know, ask for a table for so and so.
They'll already be a battle champagne there and then we
get there, we start talking boom because he's got bread.
So that's kind of like a technique. And I was like,
what if like shitkind of goes like bad though, Like
(37:19):
what if she just not cool or whatever? And he's like, well, no,
like they have my credit card over there. I tell
them I've left before and be like, hey, you know what,
so this is just not I gotta go, but you know,
enjoy dinner. It's on me. They'll take care of it.
But you know this is just not gonna work. He'll
just leave and he's like, bro something. He's like, it's
kind of player. But at the same time too, it's
like I don't know if I'm gonna be like, I
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don't know if that's player. I feel like players an
empty waller. Yeah, but it's just but that's my other
thing too, bro Like how quickly like this is I
guess the question for you guys, how quickly can you
catch if this is like I guess, not even in
a date format, but like in interaction with somebody, how
quickly can you catch that I don't ever want to
talk to you again? Pretty quick? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Yeah, I mean, I got I.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Feel that.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Mine's pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Like there's some guys that I feel like energy, like
just like energy and personalities like me and Lucas randomly,
I mean, and this is this is talking about guys
and girls just like friends in life whatever, Like I
feel that you just people's personalities and energy, like you know,
within honestly a couple of minutes, like you know, conversations
where like you like even you go literally meet somebody
(38:27):
tonight at a fucking bar having drink, you either easily
have a conversation and shit just flows or it doesn't. Right, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, I agree, And.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I think it's especially like that if you have like
a stronger personality. Yeah, because if you've got a stronger
personality and like you're you're super outgoing, in order for
you to mess with people like they got to be
having that energy.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I think that having the strong personality, like I think
all of us do, is we end up being the
drivers of that decision, right, Whereas if you're more like Timid,
you're just you're literally going with the flow wherever we're
going to drag you, you.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
So then it's like up to us if like that's
someone that we want to be a part of that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I don't really like hanging out people like that. That's
that are not as uh outgoing. Yeah, I don't know,
because like I have interactions it will be cool as though,
but it's just like if I've caught myself with this too,
where it's like if I don't say anything, it's gonna
be quiet as fun for ten minutes. And I don't
like that. I do like that ship.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah, that's that's because it's like you almost feel like
you're trying too hard to have a conversation where to
make it interesting something natural, like if if you can
naturally just vibe with somebody and like you're gonna be
have a longer term connection than what is going on
at that moment, Like there, yeah, there has to be
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that back back and forth dialogue.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, anything like that.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
And at any point in time, if you feel that
you're trying harder than that person, then it's like, okay,
like either this this person don't give a fuck or
I just not click with this person.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Well, I'm just trying to think, Like I feel like
maybe this is biased, but you guys tell me how
you feel. But I feel like guys meeting with guys
is always easier, right because I feel like girls and
guys typically just care about different shit anyway, So it's
like ninety percent of the time I don't give a fuck,
which you talk, yeah, realistically.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
But like when it comes to women though too, Like
if a women fucks with you, she fucks with you,
you know, like she's gonna that's a little harder to.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Pick up though in the first few seconds where it's
like like yeah, no, maybe not like fuck with you,
and like the conversation flows, I think it happens pretty quickly,
but like to really know if they really do like it. I
think it takes a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
I might might bad, I might be just comparing them
to like strippers or something. But I guys, so I
think we've talked about tipping a little bit on the
podcast in the in the past, but fuck this one.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Not just kidding.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
This one's super interesting and I think especially because vague.
We live in a city where a lot of women
survive on tips, nightlife, et cetera. But we have a
restaurant going viral for covering up the no tip button.
So they have their little credit card payment processor and
after you put in your card, it pops up on
the screen. After it shows a total, it goes to
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like that tip screen show it, so it shows like
twenty eighteen percent, fifteen percent, and then there's a button
on the very bottom right that's normally there that says
no tip. So there's essentially a top row, a bottom row,
and then the bottom the bottom right says normally no tip.
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So they literally covered it up with a piece of
black tape stick with a black tape like sticker, and
they it's printed on their tip and then an arrow up,
so it essentially gives them no option to do no tip.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Yeah that's wild, dude.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Curious, well serious thoughts.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
So first off, I have to say, I like, I'm
mixed experiencing for the first time in my life tip fatigue,
where it's just like everyone and their mom wants a
tip for stuff like and one of the biggest things
I loved and we still get it occasionally, but foody
fit those people. I go to a refrigerator, I pull
out the meals that are already pre cooked, I take
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them to the thing, they check them out, and then
I tip them fifteen twenty percent.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
But I stop going to them for that. That me too,
because I get twenty meals out of time. That's what
I mean exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
So with that being said, I feel like the tip
culture is out of control in our country. And what's
worse is that these apps are making it to where
you tip before you even get your service. The whole
point of tipping was like, Wow, that was great service.
Here's extra money because you did a good job. Now
you tip and hope that they do good and if
you don't, they do shit for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
But it's crazy you said that because they just updated
the app that they use for the for the barbershop
and it's uh, it has that option and I didn't.
We didn't know, so like, bro, class hit me left
the right. They were like, yo, you guys got an
app and I was like, oh, yeah, it's just new shit,
but like nothing to me. I'm like, yeah, it's just
it's a different thing. It's easier, right. And then those
semi screen but I got like seven screenshots the first
(43:12):
as ship was implemented. These guys always tipping me, bro,
but it was just like, yo, why Like I used
to just go in pay card and then just tip
right there. If I want a book online, now I
have to pay with my card, I have to enter it,
I have to choose a desired tip because there was
no tip in person or pay in person. All that
shit was gone wild. So then I bro, we were
like I had the owner. I'm like, bro, this is
(43:33):
not like look, this is fucking bad. But within like
a day because we have to call them and fix it.
Now you like you can put your credit card to
to hold it. It's not gonna charge it though, yeah
you got to check out check out as a shot.
But in my mind I was like, bro, why did
you think this was a good idea, but to be
I mean to be fair, like I want to say
the name of the company, but like they kind of
(43:54):
because they get a portion of that, so they're trying
to you know. So it's like it wasn't there's securing
the tip money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like,
this is this is not cool? Bro, grimey bro. Yeah.
I was like, yeah, don't do that. But but and
then what was happening, Like a lot of clients have
my number. This was like, yo, it's just easier. Yeah.
Now it's almost like it's ahead. It's fucking blowing up
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twenty four to seven. Bro. I'm like, this is the
point of the app. But I also understand that you
don't want to like sometimes they pay me cash. These
guys are poker players whatever they like, Bro, I'm gonna
give people my number whatever, so then I have to
book it for them. And I'm like, this is the
whole reason why we need an app. But I understand
the frustration of that You're going to pay seventy bucks
twenty percent, which I'm a gonna give you, but I
gotta do it before I get there, Like I'm gonna
give it to you regardless, but I don't like being
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forced to be exactly and I'm like, I get it,
bro I get it, I get it, which is annoying.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Here's the thing that's been pissing me off about tips
lately is so it's not only tips in areas that
shouldn't be asking for a tip, but then when they
are asking for a tip and it's on such like
a small purchase, I almost get like pissed even more
because I it's like, Okay, you're asking for a tip.
(45:02):
You did not do a service for me that deserves
a tip. But then also I look at the dollar
amount and it's like very small, so like I'm gonna
give you guys. The example, there's a there's a bakery
over at Resort World. Well it's a restaurant. It's a
breakfast spot and a restaurant, and I found out they
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have fire cookies. I fucking love cookies, and every once
in a while I'll be like I'll fucking be over
at Resort World. I was like, yeah, I'm give myself
a cookie. Well it's a self service like bakery pretty much.
Thing like they have like package cookies that they that
they bake daily. You literally grab a cookie, grab a
package cookie, you walk up to the counter, just like
a convenience store and basically just put it on the
(45:45):
counter and I'm like, hey, can I get my cookie?
And it's like they're like, you know, bigger. So it's
like Ford, it's Vegas strip prices, right, four dollars and
ninety five cents for a fucking cookie. Well, then they
asked for fucking twenty percent, so I'm just like, well, fuck,
like why am I giving you twenty percent? But then
also it's like here they're asking for like a dollar
and some change, right, Yeah, So then it pisses me
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off because it's like, well, fuck, am I just being
cheap for not giving them giving them like a dollar
because it's like what's a dollar? Right? But then also
I'm thinking about the concept in my head like yo, likes, fuck,
they didn't do it like this person literally took my cookie,
scanned a barcode, and then I did the rest of
the work. Because as soon as the bar code was scanned,
it popped up on my screen to pay, so it's
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like she may be scanned and pushed pay, and then
I did the rest of the work, putting my card
in and I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Bro, you know, I'm getting pissed. Bro.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
I'm like, let me ask you guys this real quick,
because I feel like this is gonna end up hurting
the people who get tipped because, like me, typically, I've
always been like a like, there's the three buttons, right,
I hit the middle.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's your standard. So you would have to fuck up.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
In order for me to go to the lower one,
and you would have to do a good job in
order to get the higher one. But you're always going
to get that middle one. But this I have a
question for you guys, because not only is it fucked
up when there's the no tip button not showing, but
let me ask you guys how you feel about this
because I went to a tie restaurant close by and
I'm not gonna name it.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
Because it's fucked up that they do this.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
But me and my girl ate, we checked out our
dinner and when they come with the tip thing, I
hit the middle one not thinking about it, but I
saw when I hit it the numbers check this out.
Instead of the ten, fifteen, twenty or whatever that's on there,
it was twenty five, thirty five, forty five.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah, okay, that is Yeah, that's some next level shit. Wow, Like, okay,
I just got some twenty dollars pad tie, right, and
now I'm putting on a fucking a fucking what eight
dollars tip?
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah? Now how great is that? So there's this rap
up my job for this place called Tropical Smoothie. Right,
it's just they got smoothies. I saw you bowls and shit,
I bro, I well know for them, I fucking I forgot.
I don't have the fun. I was feeling sory. Hope
you'll have a good night. Hey, we appreciate you. Peace.
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Fuck you. I had a good story, bro, because I
go every day and I can't remember. Oh my god.