October 29, 2025 • 22 mins
Hosted by Darren Headrick and Darren Williams.
Get to know two of Kentucky Baseball's newest pitchers.
Get to know two of Kentucky Baseball's newest pitchers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello everybody, and welcome into another edition of Behind Kentucky Baseball.
Brand new year for the Batcats, and we are excited
we're back for another season. I'm Darren Hedrick alongside my
co host, coach Darren Williams, him coach dub Come.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On, good to be here, brother, geta.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's great to be with you man. Another season, another
go around. We've got a bunch of new faces to learn.
We're going to introduce two of them today.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Have you ever seen that? That's Bungebob meme? Where Patrick's like,
who are these people? That's kind of how I feel
now that I've been out of the program for three
years now, all the guys that I played with are
kind of out of here. You know, a few fresh faces,
but it's nice to meet a few new ones, and
we got two good ones here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We're happy to have him. First, will introduce Jackson Sussi,
a senior left handed pitcher from Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. He
transferred here from South Carolina. Welcome to Lexington, sir, thank
you very much. And then we got Connor Madison, junior
right handed pitcher from Goodyear Arizona. He was with Grand Canyon,
so you've traveled along way to Lexington. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I have, and it's been awesome so far. I can't wait.
That's great man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We're happy to have both of you here. I guess
first we'll just dive right in and ask you what
was it like jumping into the transfer portal and going
through all that, and and ultimately what was the decision
to come to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Jackson, Yeah, it was not a great year South Carolina.
Uh yeah, So that was like just mainly wanted a
fresh start, and Kentucky kind of won my heart over
in the transfer portal process. Just talking to all the
coaches and getting to create a connection with them was great.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And just the importance.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
They put on family and faith here was the biggest
thing for me, And just being able to like dive
deeper into those was the biggest thing for choosing Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I got to ask before you met the coaches, before
you got to see the facilities first hand, what were
the impressions of Kentucky and watching how they played, and.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So, I mean it was a different style of baseball.
When we were coming into Kentucky last year for the series,
we were just ready to like play small ball, ready
to just defend the run game, ready to do all that,
take care of all that stuff. So actually getting here
is you see the different side of it. We thought
it was like, uh, you're coming in, you're gonna you're
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gonna do trick plays and everything, but it's really just
playing the game hard, yeah, and being on this side
of it, being able to see how we actually teach
it and everything completely different than what you feel like
as the opponent.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Dub but I think that's one thing that catches opponents
by surprise. They expect Kentucky to do trick stuff and
butts and all that. But really that's just a part of.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The offense, especially when we made the run to Omaha
in twenty four and then last year when we really
got hot at the end of the year, like we
did the small ball, we stole the extra we took
the extra base, played a lot of small ball bunning
for the hit, bunting to move the runner over when
you start getting the extra base hits, yeah, and pile
things on. It's terrible to pitch against that, obviously. I
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remember it doing it in the fall so much, and
you know, you having dudes play that hard. I couldn't
imagine doing it for three days in a row. That
could not be fun because I mean the whole time
you're in the other dugout and Jackson, you you're the
best one to ask this because you've been on the
other side of that. It's like, Okay, I don't have
to just pitch this guy, you know, to his weakness.
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I've also got to have that runner in the back
of my head. I've got to know what I'm gonna
do if he bunts it towards third base, first base.
You know, I can't spike the ball because they'll take
a base or two. Like, I've got to be perfect
every second that you're playing. So just speak a little
bit on that, Like what was I think it's a
really cool aspect of talking with the mental wear. Yeah,
the mental wear, and you're all preparation from that side
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of it last year, you know, the Thursday night before
the game, what it was like.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, I mean there's just so much you have to
pay attention to, kind of like what you were saying,
where you have to pay attention to dude on the
on the bases. You can't just let that slide. So
like you need to be perfect with everything you do
and that Thursday coming in, we really just we talked
about what was gonna happen, but we never actually practiced it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And that's why you.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Saw the scores of the games where we came in
here and it was just like we got boat race
and it was just not a good series. So yeah,
like you said, like, there's so much to pay attention to,
and when you're in the other dugout, you see how
much fun they're having in the other dugout and you're
just like wow, yeah, like you think it's going against you,
you think they're like getting chirpy or whatever, but really
that you're on your own team. That's what we preach
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here is like, yeah, you're on your own team. You're
never actually chirping the other team for what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Here's that's another thing I was going to ask you
from that outside perspective, when you see Kentucky having fun
and celebrating, they're really not paying attention to the other dugout.
They're just celebrating. How much does that just annoy the
other dugout Because you're seeing them celebrating, it's kind of
wearing on you. But yet they're really not even the
paying attention really.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, like you you think because they're so loud, they're
having fun, like they're they're doing stuff in the dugout,
all that extra stuff, and you think that it's focused
towards you. But realistically, like even against when we played
West Virginia this fall, Yeah, they were getting chirpy as well.
It does just because like we were doing stuff. Every
time there's a walk anything, we call it tickets, but like, yeah,
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any anytime we do that, like we're high five and
we're cheering, we're excited for our teammates, and that's really
all we're doing is we're just cheering on our team.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Connor, we'll get you jumping in here. What has it
been like getting assimilated into this program and the style
the coaches want to play?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's really been awesome to just I grew up in
I grew up in so Cal, so that like I
kind of feel like Mingch has that like so Cal
offense that he runs that small ball, steel bags, we're
gonna be a lead on the bases and am my
old school like it wasn't so much about that And
just the focus that we have on that type of
stuff here just makes me want to pitch her even more.
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Just the attention to detail on the offense, the way
we run the bases, the way we take at bats,
and it's just at a completely different level.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That definitely helps. You got that backup. You feel like
if you get a stop right here, you know, it
don't matter if it's seven, eight nine coming up in
the order, like we got a shot to make something happen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How does going through practices against this system, you know,
being out there facing your own hitters, knowing what they
want to do, how does that make you a better picture?
Just seeing this and being involved in.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It, Just knowing that they really have my back when
I'm out there is they have so many things that
they have to worry about. And the emphasis that we
put on that those certain things on defense, like I said,
running the bases is just when I'm out there, I
just know that they're so prepared for anything that can
happen when I'm out there that I just throw it,
let them hit it, and let them take control.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You said you're from so Cal originally, and I was
reading in one of your bios that you're a Dodgers fan,
that Clayton Kershaw is one of your Heroes, and I
was curious when I read Goodyear Arizona. I was like,
why not Diamondbacks? But that sort of explains the Dodgers background, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I grew up in I grew up in Simi Valley, California,
like right down in Ventura, and then when I was
about twelve or thirteen, I moved to Arizona. One of
my my dad got a job out in Arizona. And really,
from the day I got there, I really haven't gone
anywhere else. I went to high school out in Arizona,
I went to Grand Canyon, had two awesome years there,
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and then I really just wanted to step out of
my comfort zone and do something new, do something different.
And really from the first call I had with coach
Men and Coach Rozel, like I knew that this is
the place I wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We got to dive into this a little more. Yeah,
So as a Dodgers fan, you know, I I heard
Cincinnati Reds fan, we spent about sixty million on our
play was a short series, Bud. It just made me mad, Like,
how did Dodgers fans feel about the accountants in your organization,
you know, taking over the game and cheating for.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I feel like if you were a fan of a
big market team, you wouldn't hate it as much.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, yeah, I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I definitely understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But best player in baseball history for two million years,
Like that ain't right.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Their fifth starter would be the ace for the Reds.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Be the best pitcher. I've ever said that stupid. I
really did think we had a shot in the wild
guard because I got a green, could get it done,
and then.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think they're gonna win the next ten I'm serious.
They don't see. I don't see.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I don't see anyone stopping Nobody stopping them the next
ten years.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They're the new Yankees. They're the modern day Yankees.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do it, man, if you've got the resources, do it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Whatever, Connor, I jokes aside.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think one of the best things about the time
that we're living in is social media and being able
to watch ball, especially college baseball. The level of attention
that college baseball has gotten GCU. Man had no, I
ain't never heard of GCU, and then I saw this
no hitter get thrown a couple of years ago. Man
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I swear I was scrolling. I like, this kid throw
no hitter, and then I saw him commit. The summer
was like, dude, I remember watching that like a couple
of years ago and watching this kid sling it, and
I think it was on MLB Network or something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I think the MLB Network was the first outing my
freshman year. I think it was like the MLB Tournament.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But and then the next weekend was a no The
next the no hitter was at the in the end
of March early April of my freshman year was a
SAX date Saturday night at home.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Take take me through that, like the furthest I ever
got was like five or six inns, And this was like,
in uh, this is my former college, before EKU, before
UK six seventh inight, dude, you know it, you know
you got take me through them.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I really tried not to think about it, honestly, And
the guys on the team had no idea it was
even going on until like the eighth, eighth or last inning.
Like our short stop at the time, like when the
game ended, he had no idea. That's why he had
no idea. And then everyone starts running in. He was like,
all right, what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I've always wondered who's more nervous, the guy throwing the
no hitter or the short stop white on the grounder.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
At Grand Canyon, we had we had an amazing third baseman.
His name is Eli Payton, and he probably made three
to four of the best plays I've ever seen at
third base, and without him, that no hitter would have
never been possible. So till this day, I thank him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How nervous were you in the ninth.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I was trying my hardest not to think about it,
and I was just like, I'm gonna just go after
these guys, and obviously they haven't hit me all night,
so I was like, sure, I'm just gonna throw everything
I can at them, and it just went my way.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
The adrenaline had to be going, like you were like
at the first inning, we're good. Yeah, I'm not tired.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Craziest part as I walked the first two batters to
start the game, to start the game, and then yeah,
I just was on the roll since then and really
just got to a fast start and it started attacking
from the jump, and it it was I still don't
even remember it till this day. It was such a
surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And Jackson, have you thrown a perfect game?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
No hitter?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
What you got back when I was younger, I got close.
It was like it was back when there was only
seven inning games back in like summer ball, and I
was like last inning, seventh inning. I just watched my
first basement drop a pop up and I was like,
all right. It was like the easiest routine five ball.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I just watched it drop in front of him. I
was like, all right, So that's probably.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The closest being from Ontario, how did how did the
decision come about? Or what made the difference for baseball?
Let's put it that way. When you could have played
hockey or any number of sports.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, I played all sports growing up. Like I played basketball, football, hockey.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
For sure. I was a goalie.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Oh wow, yeah, a few pucks off the head, but
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I come from a baseball family.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
My dad played baseball, brother played baseball, brother played out
a d one in Buffalo. So I just always watched
them growing up. Dad like he still played last year
and he's just turned sixty, so he loves it. But yeah,
just come from a baseball family. I just always watched
it growing up. And then my brother actually opened a
baseball facility in Canada when I was like fifteen, and
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he was that was like my fifteenth birthday present was
a pitching program and he said that I was gonna
be his guinea pig.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, how much you know cross training? I see obviously
in the space coaching young kids, you know, and when
you're fifteen to eighteen in high school and your body's
growing rapidly and your first real training for the real
time you're life. How much did hockey training help train
for pitching?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean being a goalie, like you gotta have some
strong legs. You do a lot of power skating, like
just skating in general's gases you So it's just like
being able to train your legs to especially up down
as a goalie, getting getting up and getting to the
next play, like those are the biggest things.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I feel like that helped me out a lot.
When Sean Harney on before and he was like the
same thing. He's from Massachusetts and like he played, he
was a big hockey player growing up, and he was like, dude,
hockey training is like what got me right for baseball. Yeah,
it's been so well.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, so you're in Lexington now. Both of you
have traveled long distances to get here. So Connor, let
me go back to you. What have you enjoyed most
about the Lexington areat could be restaurants, whatever it is,
and what do you miss most about home?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Really?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
One thing I like about here is that everything is
super close. So really, the farthest that I've had to
drive since I've been here is fifteen minutes in Arizona.
If I wanted to go somewhere, it's I live on
super the west side of Arizona and like a lot
of stuff that like you do or anything, really it's
on the east side, so it's thirty to forty five
minute drive. Like honestly everywhere I go and here, like
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it's awesome. Having to drive ten minutes every single day
and then really just back home is just honestly, my
family haven't seen them in a while. Both my parents,
both my parents are super invested in the church. They
do stuff there every week. And then my dad works
from home and he loves that. That's like his dream
job is just him working from home, get to hang
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out with his kids.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And yeah, I've Honestly, they're gonna like Lexington when they're
visit the spring, and.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's been so awesome here. I couldn't have picked a
better spot.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
What do you miss about home besides family and that
warm weather a little bit?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, you're definitely.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You're just the coldest game you ever pitched in.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Last year I pitched at Oregon State. It was it
was thirty nine pouring rain. That's brutal. I was just yeah,
I was just out. I was just out there battling,
and I was in the back of my mind, I
was like, maybe they'll cancel. It was no, it was.
It was brutal, and like even in the bullpen they
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have heaters and we're all just like like snuggled next
to each other, freezing and gcu. Like being from Arizona,
like we didn't get any cold stuff, like no jackets,
Like we got a hoodie, but yeah, like no super
cold things.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So Jackson's going to help you out, yeah the way.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah man, all right, Jackson, how about you? What have
you enjoyed about Lexington?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'd say kind of the same thing, like when you
look at your phone and you try and seart something up,
like where something is everything is super close, and I
like that a lot. It's like I can just hop
in my car go wherever I want. H I think
the furthest thing I've had is twenty minutes and that
was just like going to church or something like twenty
minutes away and then you just kind of drive over there.
Everything's super easy to get to. But also, uh, Jeff Rubies,
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I went there when my mom out there. Yeah, yeah,
it was pretty legit.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I was a big fan of that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What do you miss about home?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I don't know, to be honest, there's ketchup chips in Canada, so.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was about to ask you there's a regional meal that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, ketchup chips are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
My dad was just here last weekend and he brought
down a couple of bags. We have Maxine Bois the
other Canadian, and I brought him a bag as well.
So he's been nurturing those in the lit room. He
actually just opened them up today. Was like going around
everybody making everyone try him.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
For anybody that's never had him, how would you describe
ketchup chips?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
That's that's a tough question. Everybody thinks they're gonna taste
like they're like pouring ketchup.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
In your mouth. They're like spicy.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, it's like a it's like a weird I can't
even explain the flavor.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I want to go back to Connor because goodyear, Arizona.
How many times have you been to a spring training
game with the Reds and Guardians being there?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Honestly, from the second I moved there when I was
twelve years old, every single year up until I was
in college, we were there at BP behind the fence.
Like when I was twelve or thirteen, that's all I
wanted to do is sit behind the fence and just
catch home runs. And I would be there from morning
to afternoon every single day during spring training. And that's
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like some of the best memories I have, like on
doing anything baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He could have given you a scouting report on the Reds.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A little over five hundred and not hard. We know,
we know, man, it's tough. Don't bring that back up.
All right, all right, I want to I want to
ask you guys a little bit about, you know, the
false scrimmage. Obviously we're like two months in, yeah, you know,
so we're really just kind of getting to know who
the twenty twenty six Cats are going to be. But
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what takeaways did you guys have from the West Virginia.
I mean you all were up there, played like fourteen
fifteen innings like it was a long day.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I never put too much stock into it. I don't
think you can. But what have you guys learned about
the team because you finally got to play with each other.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I would say, like, we have a lot of grit.
We were down, Yeah, what was it? We were down early.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We were played a seven in the game the first game,
but I want to say it was the sixth inning
and we were down by seven. It was eight to
one or yeah, eight two, something like that. And like
you said, just the fight that we have and the
trusts we have in each other, it's on a completely
different level than I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, Like we came back in that game and then
we just boat racing the second game.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It wasn't even.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Close, Like we just we started out a little slow,
but we still ended up finishing the game and then
that momentum just carried straight over and we just got
the job done the second game.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
From what I've seen, it's an older team. Yeah I
got this year. Yeah, that's a testament to you boys,
because like it it's a long day already, like you
know you'd get down man the offense, just sticking with
it making it happen at the end there, I like
what I like that wasn't there, but I heard you know,
keeping up with it. Like that's very positive. But what
did you guys learn anything?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Specifically with you all, what are you all like focusing
on this fall in your own personal pitching plan?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Honestly, for me, like one of my just big goals
for me is just like I'm a strike thrower and
that's always my That's always been my big thing. And yeah,
like in my head, like I'm not worried. I'm not
too worried about how hard I'm throwing or what my
pitches look like. I just want to like prove to
the coaching staff that like we have arms, like as
myself that I can get people out and throw strikes
and I feel like I can't get away with can't
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get away from what I'm best at and just really
sticking with that for me.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
No, yeah, I would say like last year I had
a down year and I just have something to prove
this year. So it's like I gotta chip on my shoulder.
I got to go out and prove what I can
do because I know I can do it. Coming I
had my first two years right at JUCO, and I
was a pretty good player there, so it's what led
me to this point. And I just know I need
to go back to what I did back then when
I was doing so well. So I'm just need to
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stay true to myself, believing myself.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Working with Dan Roselle so far this fall, getting to
know him, how has he helped pull out the best
that you're looking to be?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, I would say he challenges us every day. There's
always a challenge to compete in every day. He makes
you compete. He challenges you, and he just tries to
get the best out of you by just pushing you further.
Like we man challenge each other every day to be better.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Just to like the I wouldn't say pressure, just like
the expectation, like the standard here is the standard. And
he really does that with his coaching, and I just
feel like that's one of the most awesome things about
here is they challenge you. They want to put you
in that most uncomfortable situation all the time to just
make you the best you are, Connor.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He always preaches about pitching with tempo. He wants you
guys to catch throw, catch throw, and make the hitter
the one off balance. How much does that help you
settle into a rhythm on the mound because he's wanting
you to just pound his own.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I'm definitely a big rhythm guy. Like you guys will
see it. You guys will definitely see it. I'm a
huge rhythm type of picture and I like just get
going fast. So when he told me that, I was like,
I was like, this is what this is what I'm
all about. But at the same time, even when you're
not in the rhythm, but even when you're throwing balls,
even when everything's not going your way, you need to
stay in that rhythm. And sometimes I have a problem
with that to where when I'm not rolling, when I'm
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not in that rhythm, is I can really just slow
down and just start thinking. And that's obviously not what
you want to do. And he's really just teaching us
no matter what happens, Like you get on that mound
and you pound the zone like no matter what's going on.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's such a different psyche for these guys compared to
some of the other guys we're gonna be talking to
over the fall, because it's you know, two new guys,
two transfers. So for you all, like, obviously you have
an intention over the next you know, four months before
we even play, like, I gotta get better. How much
do you balance I've got to get better. I got
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to prove everybody in this program that I'm one of
our dudes that you're gonna trust me with the rock
when it actually matters and get us to omaha. So
how do you all balancing that? Because I was that guy,
I was the transfer guy. I know what that feeling
is like in the fall.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I would say, six days out of the week, I'm
putting my whole emphasis on just getting better, and then
that one day I step on the mounta and that's when.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I prove it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So it's just like six days of the week, I'm
doing whatever it takes to just get as good as
possible for that next outing, and then when it's finally
time to step on that mound, I just go out
and do it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I like that answer. Yeah, that's the psyche you gotta have.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, really really, for me, it's around the same thing.
The last two years I've dealt with with small back
injuries and really after I pitched, it's really what what
I focus on is I need to get myself one
hundred percent for my next outing this next week. So
like I said, six days out of the week, I
am hammering, hammering everything I can to feel my absolute best.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You've been in that ice stuff down there, Yeah, every day.
That's what I did. That's where you need to be,
that ice tug brother.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The time has flown by and we have reached the end.
We appreciate you joining us. Jackson Connor, good luck to you, guys.
We look forward to seeing you more this fall and
obviously this spring. It's going to be a fun time.
It's gonna be a fun team.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
This is man. I'm fired up and you know we
have you know, we have how I expectation because of
what we did last year and we've done the last
couple of years and what we're bringing back. But adding
these two to the pitching staff and makes me very
confident because I've seen, you know, what they can do,
what their mindsets are. Like, I'm fired up for the boys. Man,
it's gonna be a goodyear.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, we've thrown you a bone by having pictures on
the show to start off in the season, So we're
gonna switch in our next episode. We're gonna bring talk
about it. We got a balance. We got a balance.
Jackson Connor, thanks so much for joining us. Great to
meet you guys, and we'll see down the roads. Thanks
for having us. All for my co host Darren Williams,
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I'm Darren Hedrick. We'll get you next time on Behind
Kentucky Baseball.
Hello everybody, and welcome into another edition of Behind Kentucky Baseball.
Brand new year for the Batcats, and we are excited
we're back for another season. I'm Darren Hedrick alongside my
co host, coach Darren Williams, him coach dub Come.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
On, good to be here, brother, geta.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's great to be with you man. Another season, another
go around. We've got a bunch of new faces to learn.
We're going to introduce two of them today.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Have you ever seen that? That's Bungebob meme? Where Patrick's like,
who are these people? That's kind of how I feel
now that I've been out of the program for three
years now, all the guys that I played with are
kind of out of here. You know, a few fresh faces,
but it's nice to meet a few new ones, and
we got two good ones here.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
We're happy to have him. First, will introduce Jackson Sussi,
a senior left handed pitcher from Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. He
transferred here from South Carolina. Welcome to Lexington, sir, thank
you very much. And then we got Connor Madison, junior
right handed pitcher from Goodyear Arizona. He was with Grand Canyon,
so you've traveled along way to Lexington. Welcome.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I have, and it's been awesome so far. I can't wait.
That's great man.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
We're happy to have both of you here. I guess
first we'll just dive right in and ask you what
was it like jumping into the transfer portal and going
through all that, and and ultimately what was the decision
to come to Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Jackson, Yeah, it was not a great year South Carolina.
Uh yeah, So that was like just mainly wanted a
fresh start, and Kentucky kind of won my heart over
in the transfer portal process. Just talking to all the
coaches and getting to create a connection with them was great.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And just the importance.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
They put on family and faith here was the biggest
thing for me, And just being able to like dive
deeper into those was the biggest thing for choosing Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
I got to ask before you met the coaches, before
you got to see the facilities first hand, what were
the impressions of Kentucky and watching how they played, and.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
So, I mean it was a different style of baseball.
When we were coming into Kentucky last year for the series,
we were just ready to like play small ball, ready
to just defend the run game, ready to do all that,
take care of all that stuff. So actually getting here
is you see the different side of it. We thought
it was like, uh, you're coming in, you're gonna you're
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gonna do trick plays and everything, but it's really just
playing the game hard, yeah, and being on this side
of it, being able to see how we actually teach
it and everything completely different than what you feel like
as the opponent.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Dub but I think that's one thing that catches opponents
by surprise. They expect Kentucky to do trick stuff and
butts and all that. But really that's just a part of.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
The offense, especially when we made the run to Omaha
in twenty four and then last year when we really
got hot at the end of the year, like we
did the small ball, we stole the extra we took
the extra base, played a lot of small ball bunning
for the hit, bunting to move the runner over when
you start getting the extra base hits, yeah, and pile
things on. It's terrible to pitch against that, obviously. I
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remember it doing it in the fall so much, and
you know, you having dudes play that hard. I couldn't
imagine doing it for three days in a row. That
could not be fun because I mean the whole time
you're in the other dugout and Jackson, you you're the
best one to ask this because you've been on the
other side of that. It's like, Okay, I don't have
to just pitch this guy, you know, to his weakness.
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I've also got to have that runner in the back
of my head. I've got to know what I'm gonna
do if he bunts it towards third base, first base.
You know, I can't spike the ball because they'll take
a base or two. Like, I've got to be perfect
every second that you're playing. So just speak a little
bit on that, Like what was I think it's a
really cool aspect of talking with the mental wear. Yeah,
the mental wear, and you're all preparation from that side
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of it last year, you know, the Thursday night before
the game, what it was like.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, I mean there's just so much you have to
pay attention to, kind of like what you were saying,
where you have to pay attention to dude on the
on the bases. You can't just let that slide. So
like you need to be perfect with everything you do
and that Thursday coming in, we really just we talked
about what was gonna happen, but we never actually practiced it.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And that's why you.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Saw the scores of the games where we came in
here and it was just like we got boat race
and it was just not a good series. So yeah,
like you said, like, there's so much to pay attention to,
and when you're in the other dugout, you see how
much fun they're having in the other dugout and you're
just like wow, yeah, like you think it's going against you,
you think they're like getting chirpy or whatever, but really
that you're on your own team. That's what we preach
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here is like, yeah, you're on your own team. You're
never actually chirping the other team for what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Here's that's another thing I was going to ask you
from that outside perspective, when you see Kentucky having fun
and celebrating, they're really not paying attention to the other dugout.
They're just celebrating. How much does that just annoy the
other dugout Because you're seeing them celebrating, it's kind of
wearing on you. But yet they're really not even the
paying attention really.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Yeah, like you you think because they're so loud, they're
having fun, like they're they're doing stuff in the dugout,
all that extra stuff, and you think that it's focused
towards you. But realistically, like even against when we played
West Virginia this fall, Yeah, they were getting chirpy as well.
It does just because like we were doing stuff. Every
time there's a walk anything, we call it tickets, but like, yeah,
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any anytime we do that, like we're high five and
we're cheering, we're excited for our teammates, and that's really
all we're doing is we're just cheering on our team.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Connor, we'll get you jumping in here. What has it
been like getting assimilated into this program and the style
the coaches want to play?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's really been awesome to just I grew up in
I grew up in so Cal, so that like I
kind of feel like Mingch has that like so Cal
offense that he runs that small ball, steel bags, we're
gonna be a lead on the bases and am my
old school like it wasn't so much about that And
just the focus that we have on that type of
stuff here just makes me want to pitch her even more.
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Just the attention to detail on the offense, the way
we run the bases, the way we take at bats,
and it's just at a completely different level.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
That definitely helps. You got that backup. You feel like
if you get a stop right here, you know, it
don't matter if it's seven, eight nine coming up in
the order, like we got a shot to make something happen.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
How does going through practices against this system, you know,
being out there facing your own hitters, knowing what they
want to do, how does that make you a better picture?
Just seeing this and being involved in.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
It, Just knowing that they really have my back when
I'm out there is they have so many things that
they have to worry about. And the emphasis that we
put on that those certain things on defense, like I said,
running the bases is just when I'm out there, I
just know that they're so prepared for anything that can
happen when I'm out there that I just throw it,
let them hit it, and let them take control.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You said you're from so Cal originally, and I was
reading in one of your bios that you're a Dodgers fan,
that Clayton Kershaw is one of your Heroes, and I
was curious when I read Goodyear Arizona. I was like,
why not Diamondbacks? But that sort of explains the Dodgers background, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I grew up in I grew up in Simi Valley, California,
like right down in Ventura, and then when I was
about twelve or thirteen, I moved to Arizona. One of
my my dad got a job out in Arizona. And really,
from the day I got there, I really haven't gone
anywhere else. I went to high school out in Arizona,
I went to Grand Canyon, had two awesome years there,
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and then I really just wanted to step out of
my comfort zone and do something new, do something different.
And really from the first call I had with coach
Men and Coach Rozel, like I knew that this is
the place I wanted to be.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
We got to dive into this a little more. Yeah,
So as a Dodgers fan, you know, I I heard
Cincinnati Reds fan, we spent about sixty million on our
play was a short series, Bud. It just made me mad, Like,
how did Dodgers fans feel about the accountants in your organization,
you know, taking over the game and cheating for.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I feel like if you were a fan of a
big market team, you wouldn't hate it as much.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, yeah, I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I definitely understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
But best player in baseball history for two million years,
Like that ain't right.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Their fifth starter would be the ace for the Reds.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Be the best pitcher. I've ever said that stupid. I
really did think we had a shot in the wild
guard because I got a green, could get it done,
and then.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
It was over.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think they're gonna win the next ten I'm serious.
They don't see. I don't see.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
I don't see anyone stopping Nobody stopping them the next
ten years.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
They're the new Yankees. They're the modern day Yankees.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Do it, man, if you've got the resources, do it.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Whatever, Connor, I jokes aside.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I think one of the best things about the time
that we're living in is social media and being able
to watch ball, especially college baseball. The level of attention
that college baseball has gotten GCU. Man had no, I
ain't never heard of GCU, and then I saw this
no hitter get thrown a couple of years ago. Man
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I swear I was scrolling. I like, this kid throw
no hitter, and then I saw him commit. The summer
was like, dude, I remember watching that like a couple
of years ago and watching this kid sling it, and
I think it was on MLB Network or something.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I think the MLB Network was the first outing my
freshman year. I think it was like the MLB Tournament.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
But and then the next weekend was a no The
next the no hitter was at the in the end
of March early April of my freshman year was a
SAX date Saturday night at home.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Take take me through that, like the furthest I ever
got was like five or six inns, And this was like,
in uh, this is my former college, before EKU, before
UK six seventh inight, dude, you know it, you know
you got take me through them.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I really tried not to think about it, honestly, And
the guys on the team had no idea it was
even going on until like the eighth, eighth or last inning.
Like our short stop at the time, like when the
game ended, he had no idea. That's why he had
no idea. And then everyone starts running in. He was like,
all right, what's happening.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I've always wondered who's more nervous, the guy throwing the
no hitter or the short stop white on the grounder.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
At Grand Canyon, we had we had an amazing third baseman.
His name is Eli Payton, and he probably made three
to four of the best plays I've ever seen at
third base, and without him, that no hitter would have
never been possible. So till this day, I thank him.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How nervous were you in the ninth.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
I was trying my hardest not to think about it,
and I was just like, I'm gonna just go after
these guys, and obviously they haven't hit me all night,
so I was like, sure, I'm just gonna throw everything
I can at them, and it just went my way.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
The adrenaline had to be going, like you were like
at the first inning, we're good. Yeah, I'm not tired.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Craziest part as I walked the first two batters to
start the game, to start the game, and then yeah,
I just was on the roll since then and really
just got to a fast start and it started attacking
from the jump, and it it was I still don't
even remember it till this day. It was such a
surreal moment.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
And Jackson, have you thrown a perfect game?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
No hitter?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
What you got back when I was younger, I got close.
It was like it was back when there was only
seven inning games back in like summer ball, and I
was like last inning, seventh inning. I just watched my
first basement drop a pop up and I was like,
all right. It was like the easiest routine five ball.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I just watched it drop in front of him. I
was like, all right, So that's probably.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
The closest being from Ontario, how did how did the
decision come about? Or what made the difference for baseball?
Let's put it that way. When you could have played
hockey or any number of sports.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, I played all sports growing up. Like I played basketball, football, hockey.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
For sure. I was a goalie.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Oh wow, yeah, a few pucks off the head, but
that's all right.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I come from a baseball family.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
My dad played baseball, brother played baseball, brother played out
a d one in Buffalo. So I just always watched
them growing up. Dad like he still played last year
and he's just turned sixty, so he loves it. But yeah,
just come from a baseball family. I just always watched
it growing up. And then my brother actually opened a
baseball facility in Canada when I was like fifteen, and
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he was that was like my fifteenth birthday present was
a pitching program and he said that I was gonna
be his guinea pig.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And there you go, there you go.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, how much you know cross training? I see obviously
in the space coaching young kids, you know, and when
you're fifteen to eighteen in high school and your body's
growing rapidly and your first real training for the real
time you're life. How much did hockey training help train
for pitching?
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean being a goalie, like you gotta have some
strong legs. You do a lot of power skating, like
just skating in general's gases you So it's just like
being able to train your legs to especially up down
as a goalie, getting getting up and getting to the
next play, like those are the biggest things.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And I feel like that helped me out a lot.
When Sean Harney on before and he was like the
same thing. He's from Massachusetts and like he played, he
was a big hockey player growing up, and he was like, dude,
hockey training is like what got me right for baseball. Yeah,
it's been so well.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, yeah, so you're in Lexington now. Both of you
have traveled long distances to get here. So Connor, let
me go back to you. What have you enjoyed most
about the Lexington areat could be restaurants, whatever it is,
and what do you miss most about home?
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Really?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
One thing I like about here is that everything is
super close. So really, the farthest that I've had to
drive since I've been here is fifteen minutes in Arizona.
If I wanted to go somewhere, it's I live on
super the west side of Arizona and like a lot
of stuff that like you do or anything, really it's
on the east side, so it's thirty to forty five
minute drive. Like honestly everywhere I go and here, like
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it's awesome. Having to drive ten minutes every single day
and then really just back home is just honestly, my
family haven't seen them in a while. Both my parents,
both my parents are super invested in the church. They
do stuff there every week. And then my dad works
from home and he loves that. That's like his dream
job is just him working from home, get to hang
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out with his kids.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
And yeah, I've Honestly, they're gonna like Lexington when they're
visit the spring, and.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
It's been so awesome here. I couldn't have picked a
better spot.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
What do you miss about home besides family and that
warm weather a little bit?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Yeah, you're definitely.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
You're just the coldest game you ever pitched in.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Last year I pitched at Oregon State. It was it
was thirty nine pouring rain. That's brutal. I was just yeah,
I was just out. I was just out there battling,
and I was in the back of my mind, I
was like, maybe they'll cancel. It was no, it was.
It was brutal, and like even in the bullpen they
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have heaters and we're all just like like snuggled next
to each other, freezing and gcu. Like being from Arizona,
like we didn't get any cold stuff, like no jackets,
Like we got a hoodie, but yeah, like no super
cold things.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
So Jackson's going to help you out, yeah the way.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah man, all right, Jackson, how about you? What have
you enjoyed about Lexington?
Speaker 4 (14:49):
I'd say kind of the same thing, like when you
look at your phone and you try and seart something up,
like where something is everything is super close, and I
like that a lot. It's like I can just hop
in my car go wherever I want. H I think
the furthest thing I've had is twenty minutes and that
was just like going to church or something like twenty
minutes away and then you just kind of drive over there.
Everything's super easy to get to. But also, uh, Jeff Rubies,
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I went there when my mom out there. Yeah, yeah,
it was pretty legit.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I was a big fan of that.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
What do you miss about home?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I don't know, to be honest, there's ketchup chips in Canada, so.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I was about to ask you there's a regional meal that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yeah, ketchup chips are pretty good.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
My dad was just here last weekend and he brought
down a couple of bags. We have Maxine Bois the
other Canadian, and I brought him a bag as well.
So he's been nurturing those in the lit room. He
actually just opened them up today. Was like going around
everybody making everyone try him.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
For anybody that's never had him, how would you describe
ketchup chips?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
That's that's a tough question. Everybody thinks they're gonna taste
like they're like pouring ketchup.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
In your mouth. They're like spicy.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Yeah, it's like a it's like a weird I can't
even explain the flavor.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
I want to go back to Connor because goodyear, Arizona.
How many times have you been to a spring training
game with the Reds and Guardians being there?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Honestly, from the second I moved there when I was
twelve years old, every single year up until I was
in college, we were there at BP behind the fence.
Like when I was twelve or thirteen, that's all I
wanted to do is sit behind the fence and just
catch home runs. And I would be there from morning
to afternoon every single day during spring training. And that's
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like some of the best memories I have, like on
doing anything baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
He could have given you a scouting report on the Reds.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
A little over five hundred and not hard. We know,
we know, man, it's tough. Don't bring that back up.
All right, all right, I want to I want to
ask you guys a little bit about, you know, the
false scrimmage. Obviously we're like two months in, yeah, you know,
so we're really just kind of getting to know who
the twenty twenty six Cats are going to be. But
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what takeaways did you guys have from the West Virginia.
I mean you all were up there, played like fourteen
fifteen innings like it was a long day.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I never put too much stock into it. I don't
think you can. But what have you guys learned about
the team because you finally got to play with each other.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I would say, like, we have a lot of grit.
We were down, Yeah, what was it? We were down early.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
We were played a seven in the game the first game,
but I want to say it was the sixth inning
and we were down by seven. It was eight to
one or yeah, eight two, something like that. And like
you said, just the fight that we have and the
trusts we have in each other, it's on a completely
different level than I've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Yeah, Like we came back in that game and then
we just boat racing the second game.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
It wasn't even.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Close, Like we just we started out a little slow,
but we still ended up finishing the game and then
that momentum just carried straight over and we just got
the job done the second game.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
From what I've seen, it's an older team. Yeah I
got this year. Yeah, that's a testament to you boys,
because like it it's a long day already, like you
know you'd get down man the offense, just sticking with
it making it happen at the end there, I like
what I like that wasn't there, but I heard you know,
keeping up with it. Like that's very positive. But what
did you guys learn anything?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Specifically with you all, what are you all like focusing
on this fall in your own personal pitching plan?
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Honestly, for me, like one of my just big goals
for me is just like I'm a strike thrower and
that's always my That's always been my big thing. And yeah,
like in my head, like I'm not worried. I'm not
too worried about how hard I'm throwing or what my
pitches look like. I just want to like prove to
the coaching staff that like we have arms, like as
myself that I can get people out and throw strikes
and I feel like I can't get away with can't
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get away from what I'm best at and just really
sticking with that for me.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
No, yeah, I would say like last year I had
a down year and I just have something to prove
this year. So it's like I gotta chip on my shoulder.
I got to go out and prove what I can
do because I know I can do it. Coming I
had my first two years right at JUCO, and I
was a pretty good player there, so it's what led
me to this point. And I just know I need
to go back to what I did back then when
I was doing so well. So I'm just need to
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stay true to myself, believing myself.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Working with Dan Roselle so far this fall, getting to
know him, how has he helped pull out the best
that you're looking to be?
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Yeah, I would say he challenges us every day. There's
always a challenge to compete in every day. He makes
you compete. He challenges you, and he just tries to
get the best out of you by just pushing you further.
Like we man challenge each other every day to be better.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
Just to like the I wouldn't say pressure, just like
the expectation, like the standard here is the standard. And
he really does that with his coaching, and I just
feel like that's one of the most awesome things about
here is they challenge you. They want to put you
in that most uncomfortable situation all the time to just
make you the best you are, Connor.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
He always preaches about pitching with tempo. He wants you
guys to catch throw, catch throw, and make the hitter
the one off balance. How much does that help you
settle into a rhythm on the mound because he's wanting
you to just pound his own.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I'm definitely a big rhythm guy. Like you guys will
see it. You guys will definitely see it. I'm a
huge rhythm type of picture and I like just get
going fast. So when he told me that, I was like,
I was like, this is what this is what I'm
all about. But at the same time, even when you're
not in the rhythm, but even when you're throwing balls,
even when everything's not going your way, you need to
stay in that rhythm. And sometimes I have a problem
with that to where when I'm not rolling, when I'm
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not in that rhythm, is I can really just slow
down and just start thinking. And that's obviously not what
you want to do. And he's really just teaching us
no matter what happens, Like you get on that mound
and you pound the zone like no matter what's going on.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's such a different psyche for these guys compared to
some of the other guys we're gonna be talking to
over the fall, because it's you know, two new guys,
two transfers. So for you all, like, obviously you have
an intention over the next you know, four months before
we even play, like, I gotta get better. How much
do you balance I've got to get better. I got
(20:45):
to prove everybody in this program that I'm one of
our dudes that you're gonna trust me with the rock
when it actually matters and get us to omaha. So
how do you all balancing that? Because I was that guy,
I was the transfer guy. I know what that feeling
is like in the fall.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I would say, six days out of the week, I'm
putting my whole emphasis on just getting better, and then
that one day I step on the mounta and that's when.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I prove it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
So it's just like six days of the week, I'm
doing whatever it takes to just get as good as
possible for that next outing, and then when it's finally
time to step on that mound, I just go out
and do it.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
I like that answer. Yeah, that's the psyche you gotta have.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, really really, for me, it's around the same thing.
The last two years I've dealt with with small back
injuries and really after I pitched, it's really what what
I focus on is I need to get myself one
hundred percent for my next outing this next week. So
like I said, six days out of the week, I
am hammering, hammering everything I can to feel my absolute best.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
You've been in that ice stuff down there, Yeah, every day.
That's what I did. That's where you need to be,
that ice tug brother.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
The time has flown by and we have reached the end.
We appreciate you joining us. Jackson Connor, good luck to you, guys.
We look forward to seeing you more this fall and
obviously this spring. It's going to be a fun time.
It's gonna be a fun team.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
This is man. I'm fired up and you know we
have you know, we have how I expectation because of
what we did last year and we've done the last
couple of years and what we're bringing back. But adding
these two to the pitching staff and makes me very
confident because I've seen, you know, what they can do,
what their mindsets are. Like, I'm fired up for the boys. Man,
it's gonna be a goodyear.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, we've thrown you a bone by having pictures on
the show to start off in the season, So we're
gonna switch in our next episode. We're gonna bring talk
about it. We got a balance. We got a balance.
Jackson Connor, thanks so much for joining us. Great to
meet you guys, and we'll see down the roads. Thanks
for having us. All for my co host Darren Williams,
(22:34):
I'm Darren Hedrick. We'll get you next time on Behind
Kentucky Baseball.
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