April 25, 2025 • 24 mins
In this episode of Behind Kentucky Baseball Podcast, our host Darren Headrick sits down with special guest Nic McCay. They break down Kentucky Baseball’s recent games, his start against Tennessee, and his journey to Kentucky.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nick, I gotta ask you Friday night prepping for the
start on Saturday, what was the meal that you ate?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What was the routine.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Because whatever that was we got we gotta do that
again because that was one of the best starts I've seen,
not only like for Kentucky and college baseball this entire season.
So what was the routine, like? Did you switch anything up?
Any superstitions you have?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I can't remember what we ate, to be honest with you.
I just know got ran over in VP.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
So yeah, it's about it that'll get you going.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean, have somebody, you know, go play some flag
football or something pregame that switched up before the start
make it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The guys are saying that they need somebody to truck me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Ever again, I'd say Roselle would love that.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's time once again for Behind Kentucky Baseball. We welcome everybody.
Our show is presented by American Trust Wealth. I'm there, Hendrick.
Great to have Darren Williams back with us after his
hiatus on the last episode, and we're also joined by
the SEC Picture of the Week, Nick McKay. Nick, congratulations
on the award.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you. What did it mean coming to.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Kentucky from South Dakota State and in this year with
the Wildcats to bring home a conference award like that,
recognizing your accomplishment against Tennessee and that fabulous start in Knoxville.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was cool. I'm more just happy there be one
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Took the series over the balls and followed that up,
as we're recording, followed that up with a victory over
the Louisville Cardinals. So what has it been like this
past week being introduced, Well, you've already played Louisville once,
but getting that introduction to the rivalries against Tennessee and Louisville.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it's a lot different than a big major baseball
People care a lot more. And I mean you saw
last night more people showed up to the game than
any game so far this spring. So it definitely means
a lot to BBN and a lot to us.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So that eighty degree there helps a lot. Not freezing cold.
Yeah at the ballpark, Nick, I gotta ask you Friday night,
prepping for the start on Saturday, what was the meal
that you ate?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What was the routine?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Because whatever that was, we got we gotta do that
again because that was one of the best starts I've seen,
not only like for Kentucky and college baseball this entire season.
So what was the routine like? Did you switch anything up?
Any superstitions you have?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I can't remember what we ate, to be honest with you.
I just know I got ran over in VP. So yeah,
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That'll get you going.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, have somebody, you know, go play some flag
football or something pregame that switch up before the start
make it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The guys are saying that they need somebody to truck
me ever again, Yeah, I'd say Roselle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Would love that. Yeah, no kidding. What's it been like
pitching and learning from Dan Roselle this year? That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Part of the reason I committed to Kentucky was just
to have more of a leadership role in the in
terms of making me a better pitcher. And we got
Coach Rozelle, Coach Salo, and Fitzie Downe there all the
time helping us and track Men's like a second language
to them, and I know nothing about that stuff. So
they tell me why stuff's good and on time I
need to do, and I do it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I also had a chance to talk recently with Ben
Cleaver about charting pitches on the weekend. Is that something
you do too? Around your start? You do that on
maybe Friday night, the pitching chart with Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I'll do Whoever starting on Friday, I'll do their
pitching chart and Ben will do mine on Saturday, and
then I'm pretty sure the midweek starter does a Sunday
and Nate does Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Doing that, how has that made you a better pitcher? Just?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, just learning from maybe mistakes that whoever pitching on
Friday made or the good stuff they did. And it's
kind of nice Nate, Nate and I have similar pitches,
so I can see what their lineup does against his stuff,
and then I can make adjustments and vice versa for
all the other guys too. But yeah, I just seen
(03:59):
what works and what doesn't for that specific lineup is helpful.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I imagine too. It also
kind of gives you an insight in what coach Rozelle
is thinking and how he's going to help you make
the pitches you need to get Guys out right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You gotta.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, you've been in college baseball for seven years. We'll
get into your journey here in a minute for sure.
Is it something where you see something on Friday night
against Tennessee. Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted
to on Friday night, But is there something that you
picked up about that lineup, about that ballpark where you
took into Saturday, or was it just I'm gonna do me.
(04:33):
I trust coach Rozelle, coach Fitz, coach Mne, coach Sailor
to bring up a good plan for me. Or was
it he I see something in that lineup? They can't
hit this fastball up because I know, yeah, that's a
pitch that you dominated the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Fastball is up.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Is that something you saw on Friday or is it
like I'm gonna play to my strengths and go off that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Kind of a mixture of both.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We do a scouting report and we talk about their
weaknesses and what they're good at or not good at,
and then based on what the specific guy on our
pitching staff is good at, we'll go to our strengths first.
But yeah, for example, you know, Tennessee's in a smaller
ballpark and they're trying to get their swing off. We
always talk about getting their swing off means they're trying
(05:15):
to get their A plus swing and trying to hit
a bomb, and we can take that to our advantage,
like maybe throw a curveball down or a fast ball
out of the zone and get that swing. Or when
they're O too and we can tell they're maybe in
take mode, we can just fill it up O two,
which most teams don't. I think I had most of
my two strike strikeouts were in the zone pitches. Yeah,
(05:37):
so yeah, I mean it's it's a mixture of both.
The coaches do a good job in this kind of
report and we just at least me personally, I just
listen to them and.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It definitely it definitely helps when we have a team
like that like Tennessee small ballpark, really aggressive and they're
swinging hard on the first pitch and you're just filling
up the zone, easy easy outs early in the count.
You know, you did a really good job of that Saturday.
Going forward and playing in bigger Paul parks like KPP,
you know you're going to Hoover, Alabama here in a.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Month, Mississippi State, it's pretty missip State, it's big.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Does that changers are just like now filled his own
like they're gonna play ball.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really change it for me personally.
I know every lineup is good and you gotta make
good pitches to get them out. And you talk about
all the time just stuck in quality pitches is the
key to success. And I'm just what I'm gonna keep
trying to do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did that for eight any the other night? Maybe keep
that up.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
We're chatting with Nick McKay here on Behind Kentucky Baseball,
Darren Hedrick, Darren Williams with you, and we really wanted
to have you on Nick to talk about your journey
because you and Darren Williams are very similar and that
you got to that sixth year. You're the older guys
on the team, the veteran guys. I like to say, So,
what has the journey been like for you South Dakota
(06:53):
State jumping to a brand new program this year and
learning a whole new team and a whole new league.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I spent six years at a mid major that didn't
really get a munch a bunch of like media or
even podcasts or stuff like this. So I think the
biggest adjustment has been just how many eyes are on
me and on the guys when it comes to the
baseball part, it's the same. It's obviously tougher competition and
and you got to make better pitches. The bad ones
(07:20):
go a lot further. But in terms of the baseball part,
it's similar. Everything else is the adjustment process.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What was the journey? Like?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What what years did you Readshart? I know you've had
two season any injuries dive into year by year? What
exactly that journey.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Was like, Yeah, I didn't have any arm issues until
sophomore or college, but freshman year kind of ignorance is bliss.
I just got in there and started chucking, and I
earned the Sunday spot in the rotation, kind of just
rode with it, did my did my best, went out
there and and just threw kind of mindlessly. And then
(07:58):
sophomore year spring, right before the season started, I felt
the pop in my elbow during a bullpen. Never had
an error issues, so I didn't know what it was.
I kept trying to throw on it. Found out it
was Tommy John got that fixed, and then we found
out about COVID. So well, actually we found out about COVID,
but the surgery centers moved everything back. It was hard
(08:19):
for me to get into actually on a table and
get the surgery done. So I took a COVID red shirt,
which actually helped me because I got to take a
red shirt the year after that for my injury. So
I took two years off and then twenty twenty two
year olled around. Something wasn't right. I was healthy and throwing,
but I still had elbow pain. And after the season,
(08:42):
which wasn't a very good season, I got it checked out.
We thought it was nerve stuff. Got that fixed in
October of twenty twenty three. Still hurt after that nerve
surgery the bullpen before my first starts, we were actually
in the little rock throwing my bullpen. I felt another pop.
It was not an actual TG I didn't tear the
(09:04):
same ligament. It just didn't heal right or something kind
of like a freak thing. We just did a Tommy
John surgery to fix it and then healed it from that.
In twenty twenty four, I pitched pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It would be really easy for somebody in your situation
to say, you know what, baseball was good to me,
but I'm gonna go do something else now. After missing
three or four years with that arm injury, what kept
you motivated and kept you going to grind through it
and get back on the mound.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Had nothing to do with me. I actually did. I
don't like to say I gave up, but I did
move back to Des Moin. I left my team in
South Dakota. Still one of my biggest regrets. Didn't say
goodbye to any of them. I was just disappointed and
felt bad. Moved on my stuff out and left. Got
a job in De Moine, worked it for a little bit.
I was coaching youth kids and I was just like
(09:53):
watching them have as much fun as they did. I
just missed it. And I called coach Bishop at the
time and I was like, Hey, I just want to
have fun with baseball again. Can I come back and
I'll do whatever it takes. I'll do the bucket, I'll
do the laundry, like I just want to be a
part of the team and earned my spot back and
he said yeah, And then twenty twenty three, I did
that for the rest of the season. But it's really
(10:15):
just the people around me, my parents leaning on them,
My brother was a big part of it. The teammates
that were there at the time that understood my situation
and helped me out through it, just leaning on people
and stuff. But I really, if I'm being honest with you,
when it happened again for the third time, I didn't
want to keep going. I was like, I'm done with this.
I've been doing it for a long time. And then
(10:37):
when the rehab started, I found the love for it
again and just kept going.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So I would imagine having what you just told us.
The fact that you're now pitching at kentuckying in the
Southeastern Conference this season means all the more because of
where you are and what you've been able to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, and it's totally aside from results too. I'm just
happy to be here and sure trying to soak it
all in the seasons going way too fast. I felt
like I just.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Here and.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, and at this time next year, I'll be happy
that I stuck with it, but just one day at
a time, step at a time and trying to take
it all in house.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Money, baby, Man, that that story resonates with me. I
remember twenty two going through the UCL surgery and man,
that that spring sitting out sucked. I mean that that
was the lowest of Low's man, and you dive in
with the team you get with the guys like I'm
playing catch out in left field, left handed, long tossing
(11:34):
every day. You know, just we didn't have the season
we wanted. We had a few freak injuries in twenty
two and you know, leaning in on that group of
guys get you through that. So I mean a test
to you, man, Wait to way do you go through that?
Because that's that's three years of hell. Like, good for you,
man for being here. I mean, we enjoy watching you pitch,
and it's it's definitely worth it, you know, having a
(11:55):
day like you did last week, or you know, wins
like last night against Louisville.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Cultivate that entire journey that you've been on the last
seven years. So good for you, man, hope for all
the best. You know, just to enjoy the next month,
the month too, right and you know, soak it all in.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
What you were also sharing with us about how you
were working with youth and different things like that. You've
got a lot of baseball left in front of you.
But once you're done, is that something you'd like to
dive back into, maybe coaching or anything like that, or
did you just enjoy working with the kids while you
were doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I want to coach. I'm not a nine to
five job that I feel like personally, maybe what a
calling for me is to coach. I feel like I
can make a difference and maybe help kids that are
going through injury stuff or just kind of putting too
much pride in baseball and just being bound by their performance.
(12:51):
And I think it's just it's something I can help
out with. And that's also something I really want to
do as coach.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's a good point bound by performance and that kind
of in to where we can lean and move this
conversation to the Cats are about six runs away from
being a top five team in the country realistically. Oh yeah,
realistically you get six runs and change them up, you
allow six less runs, you score six more. Like we're
(13:16):
a top ten team in the country right now. And
the last few weeks before ten to tennessee Saturday and Sunday,
we've been wearing off the teeth.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
We've been so close.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How has the team and you're you're twenty four to
twenty five, like you you're the leader. How have you
all been able to be Hey, we're not what the
results are right now. Keep focusing on today like win today,
like what we did last week doesn't matter. How has
the team rode this roller coaster ride so far to
(13:47):
have the week like we have this past week and
move us into May and into postseason baseball?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, I think coach Minchitak's by all the time like
stuff expired. Yeah, we can't sit and expect to make
the postseason or expect to get ever want to go
if we're dwelling on those one run games. And right,
in terms of leadership, I think, I think there's guys
like Hindle that could have just rolled over after breaking
a foot on the night before a Friday game, and
(14:15):
instead he's in the dugout telling us what to do,
what weird stuff to do. And I am old and
and I think a lot of people outside the team
view it as he's got to be a leader because
he's twenty four. But I'm leaning on the guys that
have been here before, even if they're sophomores, and guys
like Ben, guys like Eb and Nov and Devin and
(14:35):
James and all the guys that have done this before.
And if you don't move on, you're you're screwed. So
you got to move on and get the next team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I will say I did see Hindle and the uh
one like it's Scooter, the band and the.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Eye black louds. He was ready, he was ready.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He was firing the boys up. Good for good for Ethan.
He'll get back in better real quick.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
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(15:17):
you guys mentioned Ben Cleaver. I want to dive into
some pitching minds right here as I'm sitting between the
two of you. What makes Ben Cleaver so hard to
see when he throws those breaking pitches, whether it's left
handed right handed batters? What makes him so hard to
see for.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
In terms of like his stuff, I think that's more
of a coach Zel or coach Talo question. But from
what I see with my he throws pretty hard for
a tall, lengthy lefty. He's throwing eighty nine to ninety
two with a fastball with crazy ride, and then he
pops in a sixty nine mine hour breaking ball. It's
like it's it's really hard to see from the dug
(15:57):
outlet alone. The batter's box can't imagine that. But I
think what makes Ben different is he's the same guy
no matter what is going on the field or the dugout,
He's always He could have a bad outing and come
in the dug out the next inning and be dancing
like a like an idiot and has the best part
about Ben and he's just a good positive guy. And
I think when he goes in there and just doesn't
(16:18):
care and just shoves it in the track zone, nobody
can hit him.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
See, I think it's totally different. I think the kid's
a crazy maniact like he's such a goofball, like when
you're talking to him outside, but like when he steps
in between the lines, he's a psycho competitor and that,
like Nick, you get it, like as a pitcher, you
have to be a totally different person when you're on
the mound versus.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
When you step off of it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And the best thing about Ben is and whether it's
preseason scrimmages out here, fall scrimmages or SEC baseball games,
like he's competing at the highest level, Like he is
out there to throw the ball right in the zone.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You can't hit me.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Like I'm I'm going to be a competitor today and
I'm gonna beat whoever's in the box. It doesn't matter
what time it is, what time of the year it is,
who who's in there, if it's his own teammate or
it's Tennessee. Like he's just getting after it. I think
that's the best thing because you have to have that
mindset first. But then, like you said, like it's ninety
two with riding in the zone, you have to get
(17:20):
on top of the ball. It's hard to get on
top of the ball. I don't care, you know how
good these SEC hitters are. It's hard to get on
top of the wall. And then when he has a
curveball that he throws for a strike any time he wants,
it's just tough because it's the same arm slot and
he's always on the attack.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's it's it's beautiful to watch because it's like it's
the games go quick. It's good pace you know, he's
a really fun pitcher to watch.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I've got to say our guest today, Nick McKay, he's
been fun to watch this year too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He throws gas, he's out there ninety four ninety six.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I just got a couple more questions for you, Nick,
I thought we would, we would have some fun ones.
Your your dad. I think Kevin and your brother Max
both played collegiate baseball. So how often do you lean
on them just talking to them about things?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, all the time. I mean I call my dad
after every every start, every practice, tell him what's going on.
He gets in the mode of trying to be my
pitching coach a little too much, so I kind of
got to talk him down from that. My brother knows
the same thing. My brother was a catcher, so he Okay,
where did they play? My brother played at Central Methodist.
He was actually an AI national runner up.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
His senior year, they had to play at George Georgia
Gwenette team that was basically a minor league team. Had
a bunch of dudes throwing one hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And I played with some NAI guys. It's real baseball,
real baseball, real baseball.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Anyways, they had to beat them twice. They didn't get it,
but I mean, I know he loved that. My dad
played all of it. Nazarene Okay, yeah, I've heard of
that one. And he played a little bit of amateur
ball after that but never really finished it into actual
pro ball and so like that. But yeah, they're big
baseball guys. I think if they could be in the
(19:05):
dugout with us every day would be.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
But big baseball have they been? I'm sure they've been
the games so far. They gotta love it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
My brother actually just he's a firefighter now, so he
doesn't have much time off the curt and see a game.
He came to the Texas Series. I think my dad's
missed two of my starts. He's he's retired now and
he's loving. I think he'll be more sad when when
baseball's over for me than than me. But yeah, they're
there all the time and support me when.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
When the Cats last year made it to Omaha basically
was Jackson Noby's homecoming there at the College World Series.
How far is Carlisle from that area Council Bluffs, Omaha.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's pretty close. I want to say it's like three
or four. I could be completely off, but I know
it's a it's a quite a drive.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I grew up going to Rosenblatt before before it was
TD Merior Trade and Creighton was a team. We played
at STSU during MIDWEK, so we we have I've actually
played on that field.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Out of bit. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay, so it's pretty close and it's pretty close to home.
And I know hopefully when we get there, if we
get there, then there'd be a lot of carl people.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's right. I'd love I'd love to party with the
Carlisle people.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Let's go, let's go, Let's make it happen.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I was wanting to ask you too, just with your
with your dad and brother, how much did they help
you through the stuff we talked about of you trying
to overcome your injury and get back on the mound.
How how much did you kind of lean on them
and they support you and encourage you when you decided
you wanted to get back in it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I mean, if there were two people that got me here,
it'd be those two got them. My dad, he tells
me all the time, the quote since I was a
little kid, is if it were easy everybody would do it,
that's right, And he just reminded me of that all
the time. I think my brother would kill me if
I just gave up at the time. So that's good
brotherly love. Yeah, my dad was more of a kind
of love and my brother was kind of like a
(20:54):
heart like being a hardhead. And just in thirty years,
you're going to kick yourself if you don't go back
and try.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So you got to live it up, Ben, you got
to what do you think previews South Carolina? Have you
all done any speaking of South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Just yet? How's the body?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
How's the arm feel so far?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But if you in terms of scattering port, I'm not
huge on looking at the sheet and going over each guy.
I don't want to give them too much credit. I
do want to respect him and give them credit because
they're a good lineup. But I also know that when
we do our strengths, we'll be fine and whatever happens happens.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Last thing I've got for you, man, I was reading
in your bio where it says you have a healthy
obsession with golf.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Tell me a little bit about that and how's it healthy?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, any chance I get them at the golf
course during my third Tommy John reading well second Tommy
John third surgery you have. I just picked up a
golf clut with all my buddies and we were screwing
around and somehow could hit it straight pretty soon after
I started and just fell in love with it, and
(21:58):
I'm there all the time. I spent it this morning
before I got heros of the golf course. Really just
at the driving range.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And what's what's been your best score? Three under?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Actually not bad last year at it was a home
course in Des Moines, so it's like I think the
furthest part four is like you can drive the green,
so it's not it's not a long course, but that
was the best one so far.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Do you watch golfer? Do you just mostly play it?
Like if the Masters is on, do you try to
watch the Masters all the time?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We had Rider, you know Rider, He had Masters pulled
up on his phone the entire time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Riders all about it. So I don't know go golfing
anytime you ask him.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Actually, I keep telling him I'm trying to get him
on the golf course, but he keeps giving me excuses, so.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
He's probably scared.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I listen to under Yeah rider Giles, if you're listening,
you just been called out.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But favorite do you have a favorite golfer or favorite golfers?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, I like Rory, I like kind of all
the carts Tiger, and yeah, I love watching Bryson. He's
a YouTube all. I like all the crazy challenges he
does and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Who's the biggest goofball in the Kentucky Wildcats room, Hench
Cole Henchell, you guys have a nov but left handed
pitchers man, you spent If you spent an hour or
two with Nov and Henschell in the same room, you
wouldn't leave without being your pants. So it sounds like
we got our next up there.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, that we might have to have a censor on
that one.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
We appreciate you doing this, man. It's really fun a
chance to dive in. I know, on the pregame show
we mostly only have time to talk about baseball your
last outing, so it was fun to sit down here
and get to know you.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Man. We wish you the best in your next outing
and good luck the rest of the way. Thank you
keeping it up. That's right, that's right. He's Nick McKay.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
He's Darren Williams, I'm Darren Hedrick. Thanks for being with
us on Behind Kentucky Baseball again. We're presented by American
Trust Wealth and we've got more episodes coming up, so
stick around, stay tuned to the UK Sports Network. This
has been in Kentucky Baseball.
Nick, I gotta ask you Friday night prepping for the
start on Saturday, what was the meal that you ate?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
What was the routine.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Because whatever that was we got we gotta do that
again because that was one of the best starts I've seen,
not only like for Kentucky and college baseball this entire season.
So what was the routine, like? Did you switch anything up?
Any superstitions you have?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I can't remember what we ate, to be honest with you.
I just know got ran over in VP.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
So yeah, it's about it that'll get you going.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I mean, have somebody, you know, go play some flag
football or something pregame that switched up before the start
make it.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
The guys are saying that they need somebody to truck me.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Ever again, I'd say Roselle would love that.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's time once again for Behind Kentucky Baseball. We welcome everybody.
Our show is presented by American Trust Wealth. I'm there, Hendrick.
Great to have Darren Williams back with us after his
hiatus on the last episode, and we're also joined by
the SEC Picture of the Week, Nick McKay. Nick, congratulations
on the award.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thank you. What did it mean coming to.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Kentucky from South Dakota State and in this year with
the Wildcats to bring home a conference award like that,
recognizing your accomplishment against Tennessee and that fabulous start in Knoxville.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It was cool. I'm more just happy there be one
on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Took the series over the balls and followed that up,
as we're recording, followed that up with a victory over
the Louisville Cardinals. So what has it been like this
past week being introduced, Well, you've already played Louisville once,
but getting that introduction to the rivalries against Tennessee and Louisville.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it's a lot different than a big major baseball
People care a lot more. And I mean you saw
last night more people showed up to the game than
any game so far this spring. So it definitely means
a lot to BBN and a lot to us.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
So that eighty degree there helps a lot. Not freezing cold.
Yeah at the ballpark, Nick, I gotta ask you Friday night,
prepping for the start on Saturday, what was the meal
that you ate?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
What was the routine?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Because whatever that was, we got we gotta do that
again because that was one of the best starts I've seen,
not only like for Kentucky and college baseball this entire season.
So what was the routine like? Did you switch anything up?
Any superstitions you have?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I can't remember what we ate, to be honest with you.
I just know I got ran over in VP. So yeah,
that's about it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That'll get you going.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean, have somebody, you know, go play some flag
football or something pregame that switch up before the start
make it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
The guys are saying that they need somebody to truck
me ever again, Yeah, I'd say Roselle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Would love that. Yeah, no kidding. What's it been like
pitching and learning from Dan Roselle this year? That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Part of the reason I committed to Kentucky was just
to have more of a leadership role in the in
terms of making me a better pitcher. And we got
Coach Rozelle, Coach Salo, and Fitzie Downe there all the
time helping us and track Men's like a second language
to them, and I know nothing about that stuff. So
they tell me why stuff's good and on time I
need to do, and I do it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I also had a chance to talk recently with Ben
Cleaver about charting pitches on the weekend. Is that something
you do too? Around your start? You do that on
maybe Friday night, the pitching chart with Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I'll do Whoever starting on Friday, I'll do their
pitching chart and Ben will do mine on Saturday, and
then I'm pretty sure the midweek starter does a Sunday
and Nate does Wednesdays.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Doing that, how has that made you a better pitcher? Just?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, just learning from maybe mistakes that whoever pitching on
Friday made or the good stuff they did. And it's
kind of nice Nate, Nate and I have similar pitches,
so I can see what their lineup does against his stuff,
and then I can make adjustments and vice versa for
all the other guys too. But yeah, I just seen
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what works and what doesn't for that specific lineup is helpful.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I imagine too. It also
kind of gives you an insight in what coach Rozelle
is thinking and how he's going to help you make
the pitches you need to get Guys out right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
You gotta.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, you've been in college baseball for seven years. We'll
get into your journey here in a minute for sure.
Is it something where you see something on Friday night
against Tennessee. Obviously it didn't go the way we wanted
to on Friday night, But is there something that you
picked up about that lineup, about that ballpark where you
took into Saturday, or was it just I'm gonna do me.
(04:33):
I trust coach Rozelle, coach Fitz, coach Mne, coach Sailor
to bring up a good plan for me. Or was
it he I see something in that lineup? They can't
hit this fastball up because I know, yeah, that's a
pitch that you dominated the other day.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Fastball is up.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Is that something you saw on Friday or is it
like I'm gonna play to my strengths and go off that.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Kind of a mixture of both.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We do a scouting report and we talk about their
weaknesses and what they're good at or not good at,
and then based on what the specific guy on our
pitching staff is good at, we'll go to our strengths first.
But yeah, for example, you know, Tennessee's in a smaller
ballpark and they're trying to get their swing off. We
always talk about getting their swing off means they're trying
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to get their A plus swing and trying to hit
a bomb, and we can take that to our advantage,
like maybe throw a curveball down or a fast ball
out of the zone and get that swing. Or when
they're O too and we can tell they're maybe in
take mode, we can just fill it up O two,
which most teams don't. I think I had most of
my two strike strikeouts were in the zone pitches. Yeah,
(05:37):
so yeah, I mean it's it's a mixture of both.
The coaches do a good job in this kind of
report and we just at least me personally, I just
listen to them and.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
It definitely it definitely helps when we have a team
like that like Tennessee small ballpark, really aggressive and they're
swinging hard on the first pitch and you're just filling
up the zone, easy easy outs early in the count.
You know, you did a really good job of that Saturday.
Going forward and playing in bigger Paul parks like KPP,
you know you're going to Hoover, Alabama here in a.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Month, Mississippi State, it's pretty missip State, it's big.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Does that changers are just like now filled his own
like they're gonna play ball.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't really change it for me personally.
I know every lineup is good and you gotta make
good pitches to get them out. And you talk about
all the time just stuck in quality pitches is the
key to success. And I'm just what I'm gonna keep
trying to do.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Did that for eight any the other night? Maybe keep
that up.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
We're chatting with Nick McKay here on Behind Kentucky Baseball,
Darren Hedrick, Darren Williams with you, and we really wanted
to have you on Nick to talk about your journey
because you and Darren Williams are very similar and that
you got to that sixth year. You're the older guys
on the team, the veteran guys. I like to say, So,
what has the journey been like for you South Dakota
(06:53):
State jumping to a brand new program this year and
learning a whole new team and a whole new league.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I spent six years at a mid major that didn't
really get a munch a bunch of like media or
even podcasts or stuff like this. So I think the
biggest adjustment has been just how many eyes are on
me and on the guys when it comes to the
baseball part, it's the same. It's obviously tougher competition and
and you got to make better pitches. The bad ones
(07:20):
go a lot further. But in terms of the baseball part,
it's similar. Everything else is the adjustment process.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
What was the journey? Like?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
What what years did you Readshart? I know you've had
two season any injuries dive into year by year? What
exactly that journey.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Was like, Yeah, I didn't have any arm issues until
sophomore or college, but freshman year kind of ignorance is bliss.
I just got in there and started chucking, and I
earned the Sunday spot in the rotation, kind of just
rode with it, did my did my best, went out
there and and just threw kind of mindlessly. And then
(07:58):
sophomore year spring, right before the season started, I felt
the pop in my elbow during a bullpen. Never had
an error issues, so I didn't know what it was.
I kept trying to throw on it. Found out it
was Tommy John got that fixed, and then we found
out about COVID. So well, actually we found out about COVID,
but the surgery centers moved everything back. It was hard
(08:19):
for me to get into actually on a table and
get the surgery done. So I took a COVID red shirt,
which actually helped me because I got to take a
red shirt the year after that for my injury. So
I took two years off and then twenty twenty two
year olled around. Something wasn't right. I was healthy and throwing,
but I still had elbow pain. And after the season,
(08:42):
which wasn't a very good season, I got it checked out.
We thought it was nerve stuff. Got that fixed in
October of twenty twenty three. Still hurt after that nerve
surgery the bullpen before my first starts, we were actually
in the little rock throwing my bullpen. I felt another pop.
It was not an actual TG I didn't tear the
(09:04):
same ligament. It just didn't heal right or something kind
of like a freak thing. We just did a Tommy
John surgery to fix it and then healed it from that.
In twenty twenty four, I pitched pretty good.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
It would be really easy for somebody in your situation
to say, you know what, baseball was good to me,
but I'm gonna go do something else now. After missing
three or four years with that arm injury, what kept
you motivated and kept you going to grind through it
and get back on the mound.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Had nothing to do with me. I actually did. I
don't like to say I gave up, but I did
move back to Des Moin. I left my team in
South Dakota. Still one of my biggest regrets. Didn't say
goodbye to any of them. I was just disappointed and
felt bad. Moved on my stuff out and left. Got
a job in De Moine, worked it for a little bit.
I was coaching youth kids and I was just like
(09:53):
watching them have as much fun as they did. I
just missed it. And I called coach Bishop at the
time and I was like, Hey, I just want to
have fun with baseball again. Can I come back and
I'll do whatever it takes. I'll do the bucket, I'll
do the laundry, like I just want to be a
part of the team and earned my spot back and
he said yeah, And then twenty twenty three, I did
that for the rest of the season. But it's really
(10:15):
just the people around me, my parents leaning on them,
My brother was a big part of it. The teammates
that were there at the time that understood my situation
and helped me out through it, just leaning on people
and stuff. But I really, if I'm being honest with you,
when it happened again for the third time, I didn't
want to keep going. I was like, I'm done with this.
I've been doing it for a long time. And then
(10:37):
when the rehab started, I found the love for it
again and just kept going.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
So I would imagine having what you just told us.
The fact that you're now pitching at kentuckying in the
Southeastern Conference this season means all the more because of
where you are and what you've been able to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yeah, and it's totally aside from results too. I'm just
happy to be here and sure trying to soak it
all in the seasons going way too fast. I felt
like I just.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Here and.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, and at this time next year, I'll be happy
that I stuck with it, but just one day at
a time, step at a time and trying to take
it all in house.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Money, baby, Man, that that story resonates with me. I
remember twenty two going through the UCL surgery and man,
that that spring sitting out sucked. I mean that that
was the lowest of Low's man, and you dive in
with the team you get with the guys like I'm
playing catch out in left field, left handed, long tossing
(11:34):
every day. You know, just we didn't have the season
we wanted. We had a few freak injuries in twenty
two and you know, leaning in on that group of
guys get you through that. So I mean a test
to you, man, Wait to way do you go through that?
Because that's that's three years of hell. Like, good for you,
man for being here. I mean, we enjoy watching you pitch,
and it's it's definitely worth it, you know, having a
(11:55):
day like you did last week, or you know, wins
like last night against Louisville.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You know, to.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Cultivate that entire journey that you've been on the last
seven years. So good for you, man, hope for all
the best. You know, just to enjoy the next month,
the month too, right and you know, soak it all in.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
What you were also sharing with us about how you
were working with youth and different things like that. You've
got a lot of baseball left in front of you.
But once you're done, is that something you'd like to
dive back into, maybe coaching or anything like that, or
did you just enjoy working with the kids while you
were doing it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, I want to coach. I'm not a nine to
five job that I feel like personally, maybe what a
calling for me is to coach. I feel like I
can make a difference and maybe help kids that are
going through injury stuff or just kind of putting too
much pride in baseball and just being bound by their performance.
(12:51):
And I think it's just it's something I can help
out with. And that's also something I really want to
do as coach.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's a good point bound by performance and that kind
of in to where we can lean and move this
conversation to the Cats are about six runs away from
being a top five team in the country realistically. Oh yeah,
realistically you get six runs and change them up, you
allow six less runs, you score six more. Like we're
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a top ten team in the country right now. And
the last few weeks before ten to tennessee Saturday and Sunday,
we've been wearing off the teeth.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
We've been so close.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
How has the team and you're you're twenty four to
twenty five, like you you're the leader. How have you
all been able to be Hey, we're not what the
results are right now. Keep focusing on today like win today,
like what we did last week doesn't matter. How has
the team rode this roller coaster ride so far to
(13:47):
have the week like we have this past week and
move us into May and into postseason baseball?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, I think coach Minchitak's by all the time like
stuff expired. Yeah, we can't sit and expect to make
the postseason or expect to get ever want to go
if we're dwelling on those one run games. And right,
in terms of leadership, I think, I think there's guys
like Hindle that could have just rolled over after breaking
a foot on the night before a Friday game, and
(14:15):
instead he's in the dugout telling us what to do,
what weird stuff to do. And I am old and
and I think a lot of people outside the team
view it as he's got to be a leader because
he's twenty four. But I'm leaning on the guys that
have been here before, even if they're sophomores, and guys
like Ben, guys like Eb and Nov and Devin and
(14:35):
James and all the guys that have done this before.
And if you don't move on, you're you're screwed. So
you got to move on and get the next team.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I will say I did see Hindle and the uh
one like it's Scooter, the band and the.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Eye black louds. He was ready, he was ready.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He was firing the boys up. Good for good for Ethan.
He'll get back in better real quick.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
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(15:17):
you guys mentioned Ben Cleaver. I want to dive into
some pitching minds right here as I'm sitting between the
two of you. What makes Ben Cleaver so hard to
see when he throws those breaking pitches, whether it's left
handed right handed batters? What makes him so hard to
see for.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
In terms of like his stuff, I think that's more
of a coach Zel or coach Talo question. But from
what I see with my he throws pretty hard for
a tall, lengthy lefty. He's throwing eighty nine to ninety
two with a fastball with crazy ride, and then he
pops in a sixty nine mine hour breaking ball. It's
like it's it's really hard to see from the dug
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outlet alone. The batter's box can't imagine that. But I
think what makes Ben different is he's the same guy
no matter what is going on the field or the dugout,
He's always He could have a bad outing and come
in the dug out the next inning and be dancing
like a like an idiot and has the best part
about Ben and he's just a good positive guy. And
I think when he goes in there and just doesn't
(16:18):
care and just shoves it in the track zone, nobody
can hit him.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
See, I think it's totally different. I think the kid's
a crazy maniact like he's such a goofball, like when
you're talking to him outside, but like when he steps
in between the lines, he's a psycho competitor and that,
like Nick, you get it, like as a pitcher, you
have to be a totally different person when you're on
the mound versus.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
When you step off of it.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And the best thing about Ben is and whether it's
preseason scrimmages out here, fall scrimmages or SEC baseball games,
like he's competing at the highest level, Like he is
out there to throw the ball right in the zone.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You can't hit me.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Like I'm I'm going to be a competitor today and
I'm gonna beat whoever's in the box. It doesn't matter
what time it is, what time of the year it is,
who who's in there, if it's his own teammate or
it's Tennessee. Like he's just getting after it. I think
that's the best thing because you have to have that
mindset first. But then, like you said, like it's ninety
two with riding in the zone, you have to get
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on top of the ball. It's hard to get on
top of the ball. I don't care, you know how
good these SEC hitters are. It's hard to get on
top of the wall. And then when he has a
curveball that he throws for a strike any time he wants,
it's just tough because it's the same arm slot and
he's always on the attack.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's it's it's beautiful to watch because it's like it's
the games go quick. It's good pace you know, he's
a really fun pitcher to watch.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I've got to say our guest today, Nick McKay, he's
been fun to watch this year too.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
He throws gas, he's out there ninety four ninety six.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I just got a couple more questions for you, Nick,
I thought we would, we would have some fun ones.
Your your dad. I think Kevin and your brother Max
both played collegiate baseball. So how often do you lean
on them just talking to them about things?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, all the time. I mean I call my dad
after every every start, every practice, tell him what's going on.
He gets in the mode of trying to be my
pitching coach a little too much, so I kind of
got to talk him down from that. My brother knows
the same thing. My brother was a catcher, so he Okay,
where did they play? My brother played at Central Methodist.
He was actually an AI national runner up.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
His senior year, they had to play at George Georgia
Gwenette team that was basically a minor league team. Had
a bunch of dudes throwing one hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And I played with some NAI guys. It's real baseball,
real baseball, real baseball.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Anyways, they had to beat them twice. They didn't get it,
but I mean, I know he loved that. My dad
played all of it. Nazarene Okay, yeah, I've heard of
that one. And he played a little bit of amateur
ball after that but never really finished it into actual
pro ball and so like that. But yeah, they're big
baseball guys. I think if they could be in the
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dugout with us every day would be.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
But big baseball have they been? I'm sure they've been
the games so far. They gotta love it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
My brother actually just he's a firefighter now, so he
doesn't have much time off the curt and see a game.
He came to the Texas Series. I think my dad's
missed two of my starts. He's he's retired now and
he's loving. I think he'll be more sad when when
baseball's over for me than than me. But yeah, they're
there all the time and support me when.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I love that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
When the Cats last year made it to Omaha basically
was Jackson Noby's homecoming there at the College World Series.
How far is Carlisle from that area Council Bluffs, Omaha.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
It's pretty close. I want to say it's like three
or four. I could be completely off, but I know
it's a it's a quite a drive.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
I grew up going to Rosenblatt before before it was
TD Merior Trade and Creighton was a team. We played
at STSU during MIDWEK, so we we have I've actually
played on that field.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Out of bit. Wow.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay, so it's pretty close and it's pretty close to home.
And I know hopefully when we get there, if we
get there, then there'd be a lot of carl people.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's right. I'd love I'd love to party with the
Carlisle people.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Let's go, let's go, Let's make it happen.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I was wanting to ask you too, just with your
with your dad and brother, how much did they help
you through the stuff we talked about of you trying
to overcome your injury and get back on the mound.
How how much did you kind of lean on them
and they support you and encourage you when you decided
you wanted to get back in it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I mean, if there were two people that got me here,
it'd be those two got them. My dad, he tells
me all the time, the quote since I was a
little kid, is if it were easy everybody would do it,
that's right, And he just reminded me of that all
the time. I think my brother would kill me if
I just gave up at the time. So that's good
brotherly love. Yeah, my dad was more of a kind
of love and my brother was kind of like a
(20:54):
heart like being a hardhead. And just in thirty years,
you're going to kick yourself if you don't go back
and try.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So you got to live it up, Ben, you got
to what do you think previews South Carolina? Have you
all done any speaking of South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Just yet? How's the body?
Speaker 1 (21:09):
How's the arm feel so far?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But if you in terms of scattering port, I'm not
huge on looking at the sheet and going over each guy.
I don't want to give them too much credit. I
do want to respect him and give them credit because
they're a good lineup. But I also know that when
we do our strengths, we'll be fine and whatever happens happens.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
Last thing I've got for you, man, I was reading
in your bio where it says you have a healthy
obsession with golf.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Tell me a little bit about that and how's it healthy?
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, any chance I get them at the golf
course during my third Tommy John reading well second Tommy
John third surgery you have. I just picked up a
golf clut with all my buddies and we were screwing
around and somehow could hit it straight pretty soon after
I started and just fell in love with it, and
(21:58):
I'm there all the time. I spent it this morning
before I got heros of the golf course. Really just
at the driving range.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And what's what's been your best score? Three under?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Actually not bad last year at it was a home
course in Des Moines, so it's like I think the
furthest part four is like you can drive the green,
so it's not it's not a long course, but that
was the best one so far.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Do you watch golfer? Do you just mostly play it?
Like if the Masters is on, do you try to
watch the Masters all the time?
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:27):
We had Rider, you know Rider, He had Masters pulled
up on his phone the entire time.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Riders all about it. So I don't know go golfing
anytime you ask him.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Actually, I keep telling him I'm trying to get him
on the golf course, but he keeps giving me excuses, so.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
He's probably scared.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I listen to under Yeah rider Giles, if you're listening,
you just been called out.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But favorite do you have a favorite golfer or favorite golfers?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
You?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
I mean, I like Rory, I like kind of all
the carts Tiger, and yeah, I love watching Bryson. He's
a YouTube all. I like all the crazy challenges he
does and stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Who's the biggest goofball in the Kentucky Wildcats room, Hench
Cole Henchell, you guys have a nov but left handed
pitchers man, you spent If you spent an hour or
two with Nov and Henschell in the same room, you
wouldn't leave without being your pants. So it sounds like
we got our next up there.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, that we might have to have a censor on
that one.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Nick.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
We appreciate you doing this, man. It's really fun a
chance to dive in. I know, on the pregame show
we mostly only have time to talk about baseball your
last outing, so it was fun to sit down here
and get to know you.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Man. We wish you the best in your next outing
and good luck the rest of the way. Thank you
keeping it up. That's right, that's right. He's Nick McKay.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
He's Darren Williams, I'm Darren Hedrick. Thanks for being with
us on Behind Kentucky Baseball again. We're presented by American
Trust Wealth and we've got more episodes coming up, so
stick around, stay tuned to the UK Sports Network. This
has been in Kentucky Baseball.
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