March 3, 2024 • 36 mins
Have you ever packed up your life into two suitcases on a whim, seeking clarity and transformation? Sabine Schoepke did just that, moving to the German Alps from Los Angeles, demonstrating that it's never too late to reinvent yourself. This episode peels back the curtain on her riveting story of overcoming personal struggles to emerge as a triumphant entrepreneur. Her journey is a living testament to the belief that growth occurs in the face of adversity and that every challenge is an opportunity to build resilience and foster personal development.
Sabine exemplifies this through her midlife fitness revolution, that our golden years can indeed be just that: golden. We discuss her transformation, not just of muscle and sinew, but of heart and soul, as she shares how bodybuilding helped her overcome trauma and find a supportive community. Her narrative is a bold reminder of the intrinsic link between physical vitality and emotional well-being, igniting a conversation on the redemptive power of health and fitness.
Travel with us as we explore the rich tapestry of life through the lens of Sabine's experiences. These stories go beyond mere travelogues; they're a celebration of life lessons and the refusal to label any experience as a failure. Your journey towards an extraordinary life might just begin with this very episode.
Takeaways
- Embrace change and be open to new experiences
- Take ownership of your choices and learn from them
- Overcome fear by choosing love and living authentically
- Find clarity in what you truly desire and pursue it
These are our friends. These are your friends. AND they are living the extraordinary.
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Jennifer (00:24):
Welcome to another episode of Behind the Dreamers.
I'm your host, jenniferLoehding, and we are talking to
the achievers, the creators, themagic makers and the dreamers.
These are our friends, theseare your friends and they are
living the extraordinary Well.
I'm so excited about my gueststoday.
I think you guys are going tobe in for a treat.
I say that every time becausewe always get amazing guests on
this show.
But she says that she went frombeing broke and broken to being
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a philanthropicmulti-entrepreneur, from trauma
survivor to soul searcher andmanifesting maven, from anxious
and afraid to badass iron sister, love this and from midlife
standstill to an adventurousnomad.
She says she changed her life,and so can you, and so you guys.
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So Sabine Schoepke is a masterat helping midlife professionals
reinvent themselves.
As a seasoned business and lifecoach and engaging bestselling
author, speaker and dedicatedpodcaster, she embodies the
spirit of transformation.
But that's not all.
Sabine also stands tall as abodybuilder, showcasing her
(02:13):
commitment to mental andemotional strength and physical
prowess through her challenges,including personal trauma and a
battle with cancer.
Her mantra clarity changesminds, changes lives, as a
testament to the power of clearmind and a strong mindset.
So, sabine, welcome to the show.
I am so excited to chat withyou today.
Sabine (02:32):
Thank you so much.
I am so happy to be here.
Jennifer (02:35):
This can be so much fun, and I know you and I got to
talk like before we even didthis show and I was like, oh my
gosh, I love this woman.
I'm like I got to introduce youto somebody else, because I
love all my powerful dynamic and, as you said, badass, iron
sister.
I love these kind of womenbecause I think you guys just
have grit and tenacity andpersistence and all the things
(02:56):
that just make you incredible.
So this is going to be fun.
I'm excited.
Sabine (03:00):
Yes, me too.
Jennifer (03:02):
All right.
So I want to open this upbecause I know you're calling in
from around the world now, andI want to start there because I
think you know when I talk aboutthe behind the dreamers, you
know I talk about livingextraordinary and I think it's
you know.
I always say the message onthis show is about showing
people that people are livingextraordinary lives because
they're making differentdecisions in their lives or
choosing to do the different.
(03:22):
And so you've done this, and Ithink you've done this over and
over and over.
It's not been a one time thing.
But you're calling in fromaround the world now and I want
to start there Like, tell us alittle bit about where you are
right now and what you're doing.
Sabine (03:35):
Okay, so I am currently sitting in a little mountain
home in the German Alps and Irecently relocated to this place
.
On December 31st, I got on aplane with two suitcases and
from Los Angeles and arrivedhere and my little wooden home
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and, yeah, I gave up everythingI had in LA.
I sold my company last year andthen, as my kids left home for
college and I was sitting in thehouse by myself, I was like
what am I doing here?
So I sold the house, I sold mycar, I sold all my belongings
and I narrowed it all down totwo suitcases.
(04:17):
And here I am.
So fun Trying something new,something different.
I was ready for somethingdifferent and you know, so it's.
It's a journey.
I've been here for four weeksnow and every day I discover new
things that challenge me.
But I the first week was roughbecause I was like I was really
(04:41):
sick too and I laid there bymyself and I'm like what did I
do?
Oh my God, I have no more home,I have no more stuff, I have
nothing I do.
But in the meantime I learnedto embrace this and I feel like
every time there's anotherlittle wave of something where
I'm like oh my God, what do I do?
(05:01):
Like I don't know.
This is all so foreign to me.
I remind myself that this isactually the stuff that makes us
grow and that this is a goodthing.
It's, it's, it's proof ofthings evolving, of me evolving
of me growing, of me becomingeven more courageous.
And when I look at it that way,I'm okay, I'm like okay, so
(05:23):
bring it on, let's, let's dothis.
Jennifer (05:25):
Yeah, I think this is so great and I think people that
you know I always say it'sunfortunate that you know and I
don't know all of your, yourpersonal trauma and everything.
But I think it's unfortunatesometimes that we have to go
through these things, but Ithink they lay a groundwork for
the resiliency and the tenacityand the boldness and all the
things that come with it laterin life.
So there's good in that comesout of all of those things,
(05:46):
because I think it allows youknow, people like you, to be
able to do things like this, getin a position where you say you
know what I've done.
Well, I've done good things andI need to change the trajectory
trajectory of my life and dosomething different.
Sabine (06:00):
I agree.
I always say to people that Ibelieve that our growth happens
in the trenches and I feel likea lot of things that I've
experienced, from at a veryyoung age homelessness to when I
first left Europe.
I'm originally from Germany andI left over 35 years ago and I
(06:20):
moved to Canada and after Ifinished high school I was on my
own and I was sitting on a parkbench in Toronto.
I'm like I don't even havethree dollars left to my name
and I started my first companyin from that situation and
things like that.
And then you know cancer andinfertility and I was
(06:44):
unfortunately involved in a homeinvasion and like all of that
stuff.
You know where in the momentit's like oh my God, I don't
know if I can make it throughthat, you know, but you can, and
you come out on the other endso much stronger and so much
more resilient and I I am notfearful of things anymore, like
(07:08):
I don't make things up in myhead anymore like the worst case
scenarios, you know, becauseI'm like, whatever it is, I feel
like I've seen most of it.
You know, there's nothing Ican't handle.
So just, I Really think thesethings need to happen to make us
into the people that we aretoday.
And I often look back andpeople think I'm crazy when I
(07:30):
say I am actually grateful forthe things that happened to me,
because They've made me into theperson that I am today, that I
I feel like I'm not justcourageous and resilient but I'm
also way more compassionate andI can Do the work that I do
today with other people, sharingand trying to help other people
to, you know, live their bestlives, because I am
(07:55):
Compassionate and empathetic,because I have been in a lot of
those situations.
Jennifer (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot there to take away from that
and I do think that, yes, youdo get to a place where I think
I can resonate with what you'resaying when you say you're able
to somewhat and what I'm hearingEmbrace what happened because
it's allowed you to be in adifferent position to help
others and take the good awayfrom that.
So I can certainly hear thatand I think there's a lot of
people that I talked to thissort of say that too.
(08:22):
You know, I've talked to somany people that have had
different things, like you know,deaths of spouses, you know,
due to suicide and differentthings in their lives.
And you know, in the momentit's really hard, but then they
come out and they're likethey're able to look at that in
a different light.
They're able to look at that,the the blessing in that
situation, what they could takeaway from that, rather than the
(08:42):
badness of the situation itself.
So yeah, definitely, I totallyagree with that, yeah so I know
one of the things you'repassionate about is, you know,
we're is helping, you know,midlife women, which I think is
so great, because I think we'reall kind of in that space and
you, I probably know that Ithink for so many moms, they get
stuck in this whole idea of, ohmy gosh, kids have left home.
(09:04):
I'm just midlife mom now, right, like I'm stuck and I can't do
anything, and I think theopposite, and I don't know how
you feel about this, but I'dlove to hear your take on this
because I feel like, as a womanin her fifties, right, right, we
have an ability and I think, ohit to ourselves to say we can
do the things we want to do.
Age is only a number.
(09:25):
We can do what we want to do ifwe set our minds to it.
It's really just us sayingwe're gonna claim it.
I.
Sabine (09:31):
Agree with you.
I.
I think there's there's so muchgood in being in your midlife
and whether it's, I don't know,45 to 55 or even 60 I have I'm
actually some of my clients Well, some of my most amazing
clients are in their 80s.
They do incredible work.
(09:52):
There are such an inspirationand I think it's really just up
to us, like, which way do youwant to look at it?
Your experiences are your giftsthere, your your knowledge,
your wisdom.
You know, these are the thingsyou didn't have when you were 20
.
You know, and these are toolsthat are so, oh my god, so
(10:15):
incredible valuable.
You know and Like use it toyour advantage.
You know, don't look at it likeYou're 50.
Yeah, amazing, you're 50.
That's go, come on, we can doincredible things.
Jennifer (10:31):
It's a wisdom right?
Yes, you have wisdom that youdidn't have before.
Sabine (10:36):
Yeah, and I sometimes I'm surprised when I see young
coaches and they're like in thelate 20s and they seem to have
all the answers and I'm like,really, you haven't seen half of
it.
What are you talking about?
How can you seriously giveadvice on stuff that you've
never had kids, you've neverDealt with cancer, you've never
(10:58):
you know, like there's a lot ofthings that, like we said,
they're the gifts that make usstronger and, like that, wisdoms
though those experiences thatwe've had.
I wore so much.
So, yeah, no, I think it'sgreat.
I've never felt better in mylife, honestly, like physically,
emotionally, spiritually.
(11:18):
I would not want to go back tobeing 20.
Jennifer (11:23):
Heck.
No, yeah, I'm with you.
Well, let's talk about yourbodybuilding, because that leads
me into that question, becauseyou, you, you're into.
You know that was your thingand that I think you know.
I've talked to a lot ofdifferent bodybuilders and I
myself have done, you know, myown share of different things
not bodybuilding, but I was arunner and I recognize there's a
lot of discipline anddedication that goes into that
(11:45):
and again it goes back to thosedecisions to do that.
So I'd love to talk a littlebit about what led you into that
and what your experience waswith that.
Sabine (11:53):
So it was actually a trauma that led me into that.
It was shortly before COVID andsomebody broke into my house
and beat me up in my sleep andthen tried to rape me and it was
a horrible experience that Ireally and then what came
afterwards like the whole legalsystem is so messed up Going
(12:14):
through that was almost worsethan the attack and I suffered.
I like I had never experiencedanything like that and you don't
think that will ever happen toyou either, because you're like
I don't live in an area likethat, I don't live a life like
that, but it does happen and Iwasn't prepared for it and I
(12:34):
found myself like spiraling,just I couldn't get out of bed.
I had terrible PTSD and I wasafraid.
I was so scared of what mightbe next and I didn't go to work
anymore.
I started drinking very heavilyjust to numb the pain and then
discovered working out and thatwas within my complex.
(12:59):
There was an F-45, ahigh-intensity interval training
, and they just opened up andthey gave us little flyers and
at some point I don't know whatit was I was like you know what,
I'm gonna try this out.
And I went in there and Irealized immediately that it
made me feel better and I endedup going, sometimes three times
(13:19):
a day.
I would go in the morning or goat night, maybe in the middle
of the day, when I felt like,okay, this is going downhill
again.
I want to drink, I want to justknock myself out.
I was like I'm gonna go back inthere.
And it got to a point where Ilost so much weight from
constantly working out that.
And then COVID hit and theyshut down.
(13:39):
I went to a friend of mine and Isaid, hey, I need to do
something else, but related toworking out.
I need to actually build somemuscle.
Because I went from 130 poundsdown to barely 100 pounds and I
was like, oh my god, I feel soshaky and I was so skinny.
I was like I need to dosomething else to put something
(14:01):
on this.
And but I need to continue, Icannot stop doing this.
And he recommended somebody andit was a gym owner.
At the time the gyms wereclosed, but he called me in
there and he looked at me and hesaid, okay, yeah, I can do
something with you, but this isgonna be up to you, I'm not
gonna babysit you.
And I said that's fine.
(14:21):
So we ended up training togetherin the closed gym, dark, it was
like rocky, there was no light,there was no AC.
In the dark he would train meand it was the most amazing
experience and I fell in lovewith that sport and for me it
was that, and for somebody elseit might be something else, you
know, but I discovered somethingthat helped me, not just
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physically but and it wasn'tabout vanity it was really
getting my head in order,clearing my head and feeling
good, like the you know, thedopamine that kicks in, and I
was like, okay, I'm strong, Ican do this.
And I felt not just physicallybut emotionally stronger and and
that went on.
It went on for the last fouryears and I got really heavy
(15:08):
into that lifestyle of eatinghealthy and not drinking alcohol
and drinking lots of water andworking out and the entire
community of it all that.
I honestly believe it saved mylife, because I have a really
bad feeling where otherwise Iwould have gone with this, and
so, yeah, it's been anincredible thing.
(15:31):
That came out of somethingreally horrible, you know, but I
discovered another part ofmyself that I really love and
has really helped me, you know,to work through things.
Jennifer (15:43):
Yeah, wow, what a hard story too.
I can't imagine what you wentthrough with that, that home
invasion I just can't evenimagine.
That's why you probably saw myface I was making all kind of
just can't even fathom that.
And it's crazy because I justwent into a week or so ago.
I was in a part of a I don'tknow it's like a speaking thing
(16:04):
that one of the police I don'tknow what he was, but he
basically here in the city wherewe're at and Plano, goes around
and talks about you know howvictims are targeted and stuff.
And a lot of this I've heardbecause I've taken you know, I
took a self defense class before, so I kind of know some things,
but I don't know that you'reever prepared for something like
that.
I mean you don't expect someoneto come into your home and do
(16:25):
something like that.
So, yeah, that would.
I mean these are hard things,but I think the incredible
things to your testament is thatthey again being able to come
out of that and find somethingin the power of exercising.
We know, and you know I talkabout that even in my book when
I was going through my nervecondition in 2012, I had
exercised for many, many years.
It had been a part of my life,but I wasn't a big runner and I
(16:46):
became an avid runner and I, youknow, we, we would sometimes go
out and do a half marathon onSaturdays and turn around on
Sunday to another one.
I mean, we, I was runningprobably 50, 60 miles easily.
You know that wasn't sometimeseven including a long run,
because then I would do a longone on the weekends.
But I used it and I talk aboutthis specifically in my book
that I used it as a way todivert the pain that I was going
(17:08):
through, and and I'm when Imean pain, I don't just mean
physically, I mean emotionallytoo, because when you're dealing
with something whether it'ssomething like you went through
or a chronic condition that youcannot get rid of and you're
trying to navigate that, it does, it reeks havoc on your brain
and on your mind and yourwell-being, and so you have to
find tools to learn to cope.
(17:30):
So thank goodness that you foundthat.
Sabine (17:33):
Yes, yes, and you know I'm not ashamed, obviously, you
know to say it.
You know how I was spiraling,because it's a horrible
experience and yeah, it's justwhat it is.
And again, I have greatcompassion for anybody who has
to deal with any form of abuse,whether it's emotional or
(17:55):
physical.
You know it's.
And but these are the thingslike if we take that first step
of saying, let me try this andluckily I did, you know, let's
just try this, give it a chanceThen we have a chance to get out
of these holes that you know wefind ourselves in.
And you know, like that's,that's the first step.
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That first step is the mostimportant step to take and say,
ok, I'm going to try this, I'mgoing to give this a chance.
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Jennifer (19:25):
Yeah, and sometimes you just do that on blind faith.
You don't always know.
Sometimes you know I'm sureyou've found this many times.
It is.
It's that first step and thenyou take it.
You don't really know what'sgoing to be the outcome of that.
You just know you can't stay inthe situation that you're in.
Sabine (19:39):
And even you know what I've done now in the last month.
You know people ask me.
They're like why are you doingthis move?
Why are you giving upeverything your family, your
friends, boyfriend, likeeverything?
You're traveling halfway aroundthe world to nothing, like
there's nothing waiting for you,and it's one of those things,
(20:00):
like I don't know.
I felt this calling to do thisand I've had a multitude of
little reasons that would Icould argue for this, but there
was like a million reasonsagainst it, you know, but it's
no, it's you have.
I have, at this point in my lifeand that's something else I
feel like we have at 50 that wedon't have at 20 or we're not
(20:23):
aware of a 20, like this, this,this inner calling, this
instinct, you know, this innateknowing that this is what I need
to do.
I can't tell you exactly why,but it feels so right and I'm
going to do this.
And I have, at this point, Ihave the faith in this feeling
that it's going to be fine.
(20:44):
And yes, I do not have all theanswers.
I don't know, I don't knowexactly how this is going to
work out and what I need to.
I don't know the house, I don'tknow, but that's okay and I
have faith in that that it's allgoing to reveal itself.
All I need to do is take thatfirst step, and there's many
little first steps in this place.
I'm like I don't know how to dothis, but I'm just going to go
(21:06):
and try, let's see what happens,you know, and yeah, it's all
magically always works out.
Jennifer (21:14):
Yeah, I think it's great.
I think too and wouldn't yousay that you're also in that
accepting responsibility too?
Right, like you're saying, I'mdoing this and I don't know
what's going to happen?
Because I think that's what Iwould say about myself.
I would say I own my choices,like good or bad, I'm okay.
If I'm going to jump, I'm notgoing to jump toe in, we're
going to dive in, and if itfails, it fails, but I'm going
(21:36):
to own it.
I'm going to say, yeah, I didthat, screwed up, it's okay.
And I think that's what setspeople you know, like you free,
because you can say I'm going todo this, my intuition says this
feels right, and if it screwsup, it screws up, it's not the
end of the world, I'll move on,I'll pick myself up and I'll
just walk to the next thing.
Sabine (21:56):
Right.
But see, for me there's no suchthing really as screwing up,
like at this point in my lifeit's like I am not going to
judge myself and like say, howcould you do this?
How did you like?
There's no failure, there's noscrewing up, there's only
experiences.
So, honestly, like I don'tthink this is going to be my
final destination.
(22:16):
I don't know.
People are like, oh, you'regoing to come back to California
, and I'm like maybe I will,maybe I won't, I don't know, but
I'm not looking at it as like,oh, this failed and I'm back in
California.
No, I am loving this time ofexploring, of venturing out, of
exploring foods, and like I goto Zomat one weekend and I'm
(22:39):
going to Athens next weekend andI'm going to Switzerland in
between, and it's so cheap totravel here.
You know it's like that's notthere's failure, there's really
rich experiences along the wayand I'm letting it guide me to
Okay, let's go explore here, goexplore there and let's see
where it takes me.
But I don't.
(23:00):
I Never think of this asfailure.
There's no failure.
It's.
It's so amazing, it's it keepsI.
Honestly, I feel like this iswhat keeps us alive, when we can
go out and explore, explore ouroutside world, but also explore
what's going on in there, likehow does that feel, you know?
(23:22):
And then adjust, adapt, changeor maybe love it and say, oh, my
god, I didn't know, I had thisin me, you know it's.
It's such a beautiful, rich Wayto live, instead of judging
ourselves and saying, well, youmight fail, and then what?
No?
Jennifer (23:42):
and I agree with you.
Thank you for saying thatbecause I agree with you.
That was probably a poor choiceon my work, on my behalf.
Anyways, because I agree withyou 100%, I say everything is an
experience, like I Use thatword screwed up, because so many
people do do that right.
Like they say I failed at this,would know like you and I think
of it.
No, you didn't, because youlearned something.
If you know how to find theblessing in that and pick up the
(24:03):
message, then you learnsomething from it.
I think a lot of peoplesometimes I don't say a lot I
think some people fail to pickup the message, the takeaway
from it.
They just say yes, eatthemselves up and say I messed
up, when you and I both knowthere's no mess up.
Really.
It was a wrong path, but youneeded to gain something from
the wrong path and in your caseyou know and I could probably
(24:24):
add to that and say that I thinklife is about experiences.
I think that everything we dois about how we're bettering
Ourselves, those around us andanything that we can do.
If we go in that mindset ofeverything that we take on, it's
just another experience to addto the you know, to our tool
belt.
I had a.
I had a gal.
I have a good friend here thatshe worked with my kid.
(24:45):
She's an elite runner, was anOlympic trial marathon runner.
I have not forgotten or Ibrought on my show.
In the very beginning we talkedabout this.
One of the questions was whenyou're standing up on the
starting line with all theseelite Olympic trial runners and
you're up there and I'm gettingchills telling you this.
Right now she's standing upthere.
These are the best of the bestin the running right.
They're trying to try out forthe Olympics.
(25:06):
You know what are you thinkingand she's you know comes back to
.
I rely on my tool belt, I relyon what I know and what I've
trained for in the experienceall the things that I've done
that you continue to take in.
So Did she make it every time?
No, because that's part of it,but she would have never had any
of the experiences.
Has she never tried out and waswilling to risk not making it
(25:26):
right?
So I'm with you.
I don't think there arefailures.
I think there are lessonslearned and we have to just get
really good at being gratefulfor those experiences.
Sabine (25:35):
Right, I'm learning to find the message that we're
supposed to take away from itbut I like you said it like that
because it made me point thatout, because a lot of people do
that they we're our worstcritics and we put ourselves
down and we're not very nice toourselves, you know.
But I think we all need toremember and say, wait a second,
(25:57):
no, you did Make the bestchoice that you knew at the time
, for whatever reason, andthat's that's good.
As long as things are integritywith who you are, for me that's
the most important.
As long as it's an integrityand I'm like, yeah, I can stand
for this, I will stand for mychoice, then the rest it's just.
(26:22):
There's only gain, there'snothing to lose, you know.
Jennifer (26:26):
I love it and I love it You're.
You know, headspace is I don'tknow what tomorrow's gonna bring
, or if I'm gonna go back toCalifornia, if I'm gonna stay
here.
I think that's great and Ithink that that's how we have to
be open to Opportunity andthings that come because our
priorities change, you know wejust, we enter different phases
of our lives and we decide.
You know one point, you know,when our kids are growing up,
(26:47):
there are priority not that wedon't love our kids when they're
older, but when they're youngerour priority is there to guide
them and lead them.
And then at some point theykind of take off and they're
doing their lives and doingtheir things and we enter into
the different domain when now wehave freedom to do other things
.
And I think that's what'sbeautiful Is that you know, when
you get to a place where you'resaying I can take in these
(27:07):
enriched experiences.
I don't know where tomorrow isgoing to lead me, I may be doing
something different, but you'reliving out your extraordinary.
Sabine (27:14):
And that's really what this is all about right, right,
and I, I I'm very grateful thatI found a way to Do what I love
to do at the same time.
Like I work with my clientsWhile I'm here.
It makes no difference, becausethey're all over the map.
Anyways, you know, I record mypodcast episodes, I have my mic
(27:36):
with me or headphones, and LikeI can get to do everything that
I love to do now, matter whereI'm at.
So it all fits together soperfectly.
I saw, I feel very grateful that, you know, I get to do all of
the things that I Want to do,but at the same time, these are
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the results of our choices andwe have nobody else to blame but
ourselves.
If it's not, if it doesn't feelgood, you know, if it doesn't
feel good, yes, sometimes I meanI would have never done this, I
don't know, three years ago,when my kids were still in high
school, like I would have neverleft my kids, you know, but my
kids moved on.
So now it was, you know, likenow it was up to me to say, okay
(28:19):
, what am I gonna do?
So I, if I would have stayed inredondo in California and sat
there by myself, an empty house,and felt sorry for myself.
Well, that would be my choicetoo.
You know, it's up to us to takethe initiative and say, okay,
I'm gonna take care of myself,what is it gonna be?
What do you want?
But for that, we need to getclarity on what it is that we
(28:41):
want.
And that's a process, you know,and that's what I work with a
lot of people with and to figureout, help them figure out.
What do you want?
What do you actually desire?
Let's figure that out and thengo for it.
Jennifer (28:56):
Yeah, that's a hard thing for a lot of people
because you asked that question.
They don't always know rightLike they.
They're conditioned to thinkthey what they've been thought
they want.
And if they really just startdigging in deep, they really
start recognizing that a lot ofthings they're probably doing in
life aren't really in alignmentwith what they really want to
be doing.
Right, and it can be a wake upcall.
Sometimes you have these crisesand that's what you know says
(29:17):
hey, what am I doing?
Why is it?
Why are these things happeningin my life?
I'm not saying bad things, asbad things do happen to good
people.
I'm talking about when we haverepeated repetitive bad patterns
that we're doing picking poorchoice jobs, men, whatever the
case is in our lives, right,these poor choices we start
looking and going.
They're not in alignment withwho we are and what we want in
our lives, and so I love thatthat you brought that up.
Sabine (29:40):
Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's important, it's the most
important step to get clarity onthat in order to achieve your
joy, your happiness.
So you're, you live your dream.
Jennifer (29:53):
Yeah, okay, well, I love it.
So, being what I'd love to knowfrom you we said so many great
takeaways in this today, I thinkif we were to like put the
bullet points, I'm going to lovewhen this thing goes in says
take all the takeaways and wecan all bullets from this Cause.
So many great things.
But somebody right now wetalked about, you know, getting
clarity, taking ownership.
You know, being open toexperience is not looking at, as
(30:14):
you know, as missed goals, asfailures, but more as lessons
learned.
Right, but one, maybe one thingthat you would leave somebody
with that maybe they're rightnow, they're kind of sitting in
this place right now wherethey're going.
I want to do somethingdifferent tomorrow.
We've told them to get clarityand take that step.
Anything else you want to addthat they could do differently
in their in, maybe in theirmindset or in their day, or
(30:37):
something they could bring tohelp them make that step?
Sabine (30:41):
Well, I think the biggest thing holding all of us
back is fear, cause there'sreally only two things there's
love and there's fear.
So it's not love, it's fear.
So recognize that and thechoices you make start to get an
(31:06):
awareness for it.
Ask yourself and say okay, whatI'm choosing here?
Am I choosing this out of fearor out of love?
And when I mean love, it's notjust love for the thing or love
for the person, for somebodyelse, but love for yourself.
So, like, get into a pattern ofasking yourself, because then
(31:27):
you're going to figure out ifit's an alignment with who you
truly are, like authenticallyare, and how you truly want to
live your life, and when it's.
And you got to be so honestwith yourself, like you don't
have to tell anybody else, butjust be honest with yourself and
say no, I'm choosing thisbecause I'm afraid, I'm afraid
(31:50):
to lose that person, I'm afraidto be alone, I'm afraid to end
up alone.
And then you know, and then youknow where your work begins.
Jennifer (32:00):
Love it.
That's good, that's good, allright.
Well, real quick, tell us alittle bit about your podcast,
in case somebody wants to plugin and learn more about this.
Sabine (32:09):
So the podcast is called the Power Life and it talks,
especially right now, like forthe last I want to say couple of
months every week.
It really shares what I'm goingthrough up in my head, like my
whole process of deciding to dothis and the different phases I
(32:29):
go through.
And the funny thing is like Isit down and I have an idea of
what I want to talk about andthen, as I'm recording this, I'm
actually working through mychallenges and at the end I'm
like, well, thank you very much.
All right, so it's been a lotof fun to share, like to really
share what's going on, and likethis morning, I had three things
(32:54):
I had worked on over theweekend.
I'm like, oh my God, I need torecord this.
And I recorded three episodesat once.
I'm like, okay, this was one,let's do another one, this needs
to come out, this needs to comeout of my head and I need to
finish processing this.
So it's really fun.
It's life as in, like life aswhat it's going on right here.
It's very raw, it's veryauthentic and, yeah, it's like I
(33:19):
feel like I'm sharing, like I'mtalking to you.
You know it's okay, let's talkabout this.
What's going on.
Oh my gosh.
So yeah, it's me.
It's just raw and authentic me.
Jennifer (33:32):
I love it, so do they.
What website do we send them to, I guess, if they want to catch
up with you?
I'm sure, after listening tothis, there's going to be some
people out there that want tofind out what you're doing,
follow this story, you know, andsee where you end up, where we
want to send them.
Sabine (33:45):
So the easiest is my website.
It's calledthepowerlifecoachcom and there
is links to the podcast andthere's links to my social media
.
I'm pretty active on LinkedInand I've been neglecting a
little bit the other ones, justbecause it's been too much, too
much work and with the move andeverything.
So, yeah, thepowerlifecoachcom,that's really the best place to
(34:11):
get started.
Jennifer (34:12):
You do great stuff in LinkedIn, by the way, and I do
think for what you do becauseyou and I do you know similar
things in that we're talkingabout success and all of that.
I think LinkedIn is a reallygood platform and I love your
photos, I love all your stuffthat goes in there.
You're doing a great job, youknow, in that particular
platform, so keep doing yourthing, I love it.
I'm very excited to be back tothis whole badass iron sister
(34:32):
thing.
I love it because I think thatit just it just embodies you and
I'm excited to see you knowwhere you travel and what you
end up you know along thisjourney.
I think it's fun and you're ina great place.
So I say kudos to you for beingable to to you worked hard and
you put yourself in thisposition so that you could do
this.
Sabine (34:51):
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Yes, it's fun.
It's very exciting.
I'm looking forward tocontinuing to share.
Jennifer (34:59):
That's really cool, very cool.
Well, we do want to say, ofcourse, to our listeners if you
enjoy this episode, be sure youhead on over to Apple, give us a
review over there.
You can check us out on YouTube, hit that subscribe button and
reach out to Sabine so you canfollow her and keep up with what
she's doing and watch, you know, listen to her podcast.
It sounds like a fun thing.
And I was going to say to thatpoint Sabine, sometimes us
(35:21):
talking through the things ishow we work through the things,
right?
So kudos to you for being rawand authentic in that one.
And, as I always say, in orderto live the extraordinary you
must start, and every startbegins with a decision.
You guys, take care, be safe,be kind to one another, and we
will see you next time.
Welcome to another episode of Behind the Dreamers.
I'm your host, jenniferLoehding, and we are talking to
the achievers, the creators, themagic makers and the dreamers.
These are our friends, theseare your friends and they are
living the extraordinary Well.
I'm so excited about my gueststoday.
I think you guys are going tobe in for a treat.
I say that every time becausewe always get amazing guests on
this show.
But she says that she went frombeing broke and broken to being
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a philanthropicmulti-entrepreneur, from trauma
survivor to soul searcher andmanifesting maven, from anxious
and afraid to badass iron sister, love this and from midlife
standstill to an adventurousnomad.
She says she changed her life,and so can you, and so you guys.
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So Sabine Schoepke is a masterat helping midlife professionals
reinvent themselves.
As a seasoned business and lifecoach and engaging bestselling
author, speaker and dedicatedpodcaster, she embodies the
spirit of transformation.
But that's not all.
Sabine also stands tall as abodybuilder, showcasing her
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commitment to mental andemotional strength and physical
prowess through her challenges,including personal trauma and a
battle with cancer.
Her mantra clarity changesminds, changes lives, as a
testament to the power of clearmind and a strong mindset.
So, sabine, welcome to the show.
I am so excited to chat withyou today.
Sabine (02:32):
Thank you so much.
I am so happy to be here.
Jennifer (02:35):
This can be so much fun, and I know you and I got to
talk like before we even didthis show and I was like, oh my
gosh, I love this woman.
I'm like I got to introduce youto somebody else, because I
love all my powerful dynamic and, as you said, badass, iron
sister.
I love these kind of womenbecause I think you guys just
have grit and tenacity andpersistence and all the things
(02:56):
that just make you incredible.
So this is going to be fun.
I'm excited.
Sabine (03:00):
Yes, me too.
Jennifer (03:02):
All right.
So I want to open this upbecause I know you're calling in
from around the world now, andI want to start there because I
think you know when I talk aboutthe behind the dreamers, you
know I talk about livingextraordinary and I think it's
you know.
I always say the message onthis show is about showing
people that people are livingextraordinary lives because
they're making differentdecisions in their lives or
choosing to do the different.
(03:22):
And so you've done this, and Ithink you've done this over and
over and over.
It's not been a one time thing.
But you're calling in fromaround the world now and I want
to start there Like, tell us alittle bit about where you are
right now and what you're doing.
Sabine (03:35):
Okay, so I am currently sitting in a little mountain
home in the German Alps and Irecently relocated to this place
.
On December 31st, I got on aplane with two suitcases and
from Los Angeles and arrivedhere and my little wooden home
(03:56):
and, yeah, I gave up everythingI had in LA.
I sold my company last year andthen, as my kids left home for
college and I was sitting in thehouse by myself, I was like
what am I doing here?
So I sold the house, I sold mycar, I sold all my belongings
and I narrowed it all down totwo suitcases.
(04:17):
And here I am.
So fun Trying something new,something different.
I was ready for somethingdifferent and you know, so it's.
It's a journey.
I've been here for four weeksnow and every day I discover new
things that challenge me.
But I the first week was roughbecause I was like I was really
(04:41):
sick too and I laid there bymyself and I'm like what did I
do?
Oh my God, I have no more home,I have no more stuff, I have
nothing I do.
But in the meantime I learnedto embrace this and I feel like
every time there's anotherlittle wave of something where
I'm like oh my God, what do I do?
(05:01):
Like I don't know.
This is all so foreign to me.
I remind myself that this isactually the stuff that makes us
grow and that this is a goodthing.
It's, it's, it's proof ofthings evolving, of me evolving
of me growing, of me becomingeven more courageous.
And when I look at it that way,I'm okay, I'm like okay, so
(05:23):
bring it on, let's, let's dothis.
Jennifer (05:25):
Yeah, I think this is so great and I think people that
you know I always say it'sunfortunate that you know and I
don't know all of your, yourpersonal trauma and everything.
But I think it's unfortunatesometimes that we have to go
through these things, but Ithink they lay a groundwork for
the resiliency and the tenacityand the boldness and all the
things that come with it laterin life.
So there's good in that comesout of all of those things,
(05:46):
because I think it allows youknow, people like you, to be
able to do things like this, getin a position where you say you
know what I've done.
Well, I've done good things andI need to change the trajectory
trajectory of my life and dosomething different.
Sabine (06:00):
I agree.
I always say to people that Ibelieve that our growth happens
in the trenches and I feel likea lot of things that I've
experienced, from at a veryyoung age homelessness to when I
first left Europe.
I'm originally from Germany andI left over 35 years ago and I
(06:20):
moved to Canada and after Ifinished high school I was on my
own and I was sitting on a parkbench in Toronto.
I'm like I don't even havethree dollars left to my name
and I started my first companyin from that situation and
things like that.
And then you know cancer andinfertility and I was
(06:44):
unfortunately involved in a homeinvasion and like all of that
stuff.
You know where in the momentit's like oh my God, I don't
know if I can make it throughthat, you know, but you can, and
you come out on the other endso much stronger and so much
more resilient and I I am notfearful of things anymore, like
(07:08):
I don't make things up in myhead anymore like the worst case
scenarios, you know, becauseI'm like, whatever it is, I feel
like I've seen most of it.
You know, there's nothing Ican't handle.
So just, I Really think thesethings need to happen to make us
into the people that we aretoday.
And I often look back andpeople think I'm crazy when I
(07:30):
say I am actually grateful forthe things that happened to me,
because They've made me into theperson that I am today, that I
I feel like I'm not justcourageous and resilient but I'm
also way more compassionate andI can Do the work that I do
today with other people, sharingand trying to help other people
to, you know, live their bestlives, because I am
(07:55):
Compassionate and empathetic,because I have been in a lot of
those situations.
Jennifer (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot there to take away from that
and I do think that, yes, youdo get to a place where I think
I can resonate with what you'resaying when you say you're able
to somewhat and what I'm hearingEmbrace what happened because
it's allowed you to be in adifferent position to help
others and take the good awayfrom that.
So I can certainly hear thatand I think there's a lot of
people that I talked to thissort of say that too.
(08:22):
You know, I've talked to somany people that have had
different things, like you know,deaths of spouses, you know,
due to suicide and differentthings in their lives.
And you know, in the momentit's really hard, but then they
come out and they're likethey're able to look at that in
a different light.
They're able to look at that,the the blessing in that
situation, what they could takeaway from that, rather than the
(08:42):
badness of the situation itself.
So yeah, definitely, I totallyagree with that, yeah so I know
one of the things you'repassionate about is, you know,
we're is helping, you know,midlife women, which I think is
so great, because I think we'reall kind of in that space and
you, I probably know that Ithink for so many moms, they get
stuck in this whole idea of, ohmy gosh, kids have left home.
(09:04):
I'm just midlife mom now, right, like I'm stuck and I can't do
anything, and I think theopposite, and I don't know how
you feel about this, but I'dlove to hear your take on this
because I feel like, as a womanin her fifties, right, right, we
have an ability and I think, ohit to ourselves to say we can
do the things we want to do.
Age is only a number.
(09:25):
We can do what we want to do ifwe set our minds to it.
It's really just us sayingwe're gonna claim it.
I.
Sabine (09:31):
Agree with you.
I.
I think there's there's so muchgood in being in your midlife
and whether it's, I don't know,45 to 55 or even 60 I have I'm
actually some of my clients Well, some of my most amazing
clients are in their 80s.
They do incredible work.
(09:52):
There are such an inspirationand I think it's really just up
to us, like, which way do youwant to look at it?
Your experiences are your giftsthere, your your knowledge,
your wisdom.
You know, these are the thingsyou didn't have when you were 20
.
You know, and these are toolsthat are so, oh my god, so
(10:15):
incredible valuable.
You know and Like use it toyour advantage.
You know, don't look at it likeYou're 50.
Yeah, amazing, you're 50.
That's go, come on, we can doincredible things.
Jennifer (10:31):
It's a wisdom right?
Yes, you have wisdom that youdidn't have before.
Sabine (10:36):
Yeah, and I sometimes I'm surprised when I see young
coaches and they're like in thelate 20s and they seem to have
all the answers and I'm like,really, you haven't seen half of
it.
What are you talking about?
How can you seriously giveadvice on stuff that you've
never had kids, you've neverDealt with cancer, you've never
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you know, like there's a lot ofthings that, like we said,
they're the gifts that make usstronger and, like that, wisdoms
though those experiences thatwe've had.
I wore so much.
So, yeah, no, I think it'sgreat.
I've never felt better in mylife, honestly, like physically,
emotionally, spiritually.
(11:18):
I would not want to go back tobeing 20.
Jennifer (11:23):
Heck.
No, yeah, I'm with you.
Well, let's talk about yourbodybuilding, because that leads
me into that question, becauseyou, you, you're into.
You know that was your thingand that I think you know.
I've talked to a lot ofdifferent bodybuilders and I
myself have done, you know, myown share of different things
not bodybuilding, but I was arunner and I recognize there's a
lot of discipline anddedication that goes into that
(11:45):
and again it goes back to thosedecisions to do that.
So I'd love to talk a littlebit about what led you into that
and what your experience waswith that.
Sabine (11:53):
So it was actually a trauma that led me into that.
It was shortly before COVID andsomebody broke into my house
and beat me up in my sleep andthen tried to rape me and it was
a horrible experience that Ireally and then what came
afterwards like the whole legalsystem is so messed up Going
(12:14):
through that was almost worsethan the attack and I suffered.
I like I had never experiencedanything like that and you don't
think that will ever happen toyou either, because you're like
I don't live in an area likethat, I don't live a life like
that, but it does happen and Iwasn't prepared for it and I
(12:34):
found myself like spiraling,just I couldn't get out of bed.
I had terrible PTSD and I wasafraid.
I was so scared of what mightbe next and I didn't go to work
anymore.
I started drinking very heavilyjust to numb the pain and then
discovered working out and thatwas within my complex.
(12:59):
There was an F-45, ahigh-intensity interval training
, and they just opened up andthey gave us little flyers and
at some point I don't know whatit was I was like you know what,
I'm gonna try this out.
And I went in there and Irealized immediately that it
made me feel better and I endedup going, sometimes three times
(13:19):
a day.
I would go in the morning or goat night, maybe in the middle
of the day, when I felt like,okay, this is going downhill
again.
I want to drink, I want to justknock myself out.
I was like I'm gonna go back inthere.
And it got to a point where Ilost so much weight from
constantly working out that.
And then COVID hit and theyshut down.
(13:39):
I went to a friend of mine and Isaid, hey, I need to do
something else, but related toworking out.
I need to actually build somemuscle.
Because I went from 130 poundsdown to barely 100 pounds and I
was like, oh my god, I feel soshaky and I was so skinny.
I was like I need to dosomething else to put something
(14:01):
on this.
And but I need to continue, Icannot stop doing this.
And he recommended somebody andit was a gym owner.
At the time the gyms wereclosed, but he called me in
there and he looked at me and hesaid, okay, yeah, I can do
something with you, but this isgonna be up to you, I'm not
gonna babysit you.
And I said that's fine.
(14:21):
So we ended up training togetherin the closed gym, dark, it was
like rocky, there was no light,there was no AC.
In the dark he would train meand it was the most amazing
experience and I fell in lovewith that sport and for me it
was that, and for somebody elseit might be something else, you
know, but I discovered somethingthat helped me, not just
(14:45):
physically but and it wasn'tabout vanity it was really
getting my head in order,clearing my head and feeling
good, like the you know, thedopamine that kicks in, and I
was like, okay, I'm strong, Ican do this.
And I felt not just physicallybut emotionally stronger and and
that went on.
It went on for the last fouryears and I got really heavy
(15:08):
into that lifestyle of eatinghealthy and not drinking alcohol
and drinking lots of water andworking out and the entire
community of it all that.
I honestly believe it saved mylife, because I have a really
bad feeling where otherwise Iwould have gone with this, and
so, yeah, it's been anincredible thing.
(15:31):
That came out of somethingreally horrible, you know, but I
discovered another part ofmyself that I really love and
has really helped me, you know,to work through things.
Jennifer (15:43):
Yeah, wow, what a hard story too.
I can't imagine what you wentthrough with that, that home
invasion I just can't evenimagine.
That's why you probably saw myface I was making all kind of
just can't even fathom that.
And it's crazy because I justwent into a week or so ago.
I was in a part of a I don'tknow it's like a speaking thing
(16:04):
that one of the police I don'tknow what he was, but he
basically here in the city wherewe're at and Plano, goes around
and talks about you know howvictims are targeted and stuff.
And a lot of this I've heardbecause I've taken you know, I
took a self defense class before, so I kind of know some things,
but I don't know that you'reever prepared for something like
that.
I mean you don't expect someoneto come into your home and do
(16:25):
something like that.
So, yeah, that would.
I mean these are hard things,but I think the incredible
things to your testament is thatthey again being able to come
out of that and find somethingin the power of exercising.
We know, and you know I talkabout that even in my book when
I was going through my nervecondition in 2012, I had
exercised for many, many years.
It had been a part of my life,but I wasn't a big runner and I
(16:46):
became an avid runner and I, youknow, we, we would sometimes go
out and do a half marathon onSaturdays and turn around on
Sunday to another one.
I mean, we, I was runningprobably 50, 60 miles easily.
You know that wasn't sometimeseven including a long run,
because then I would do a longone on the weekends.
But I used it and I talk aboutthis specifically in my book
that I used it as a way todivert the pain that I was going
(17:08):
through, and and I'm when Imean pain, I don't just mean
physically, I mean emotionallytoo, because when you're dealing
with something whether it'ssomething like you went through
or a chronic condition that youcannot get rid of and you're
trying to navigate that, it does, it reeks havoc on your brain
and on your mind and yourwell-being, and so you have to
find tools to learn to cope.
(17:30):
So thank goodness that you foundthat.
Sabine (17:33):
Yes, yes, and you know I'm not ashamed, obviously, you
know to say it.
You know how I was spiraling,because it's a horrible
experience and yeah, it's justwhat it is.
And again, I have greatcompassion for anybody who has
to deal with any form of abuse,whether it's emotional or
(17:55):
physical.
You know it's.
And but these are the thingslike if we take that first step
of saying, let me try this andluckily I did, you know, let's
just try this, give it a chanceThen we have a chance to get out
of these holes that you know wefind ourselves in.
And you know, like that's,that's the first step.
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That first step is the mostimportant step to take and say,
ok, I'm going to try this, I'mgoing to give this a chance.
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Jennifer (19:25):
Yeah, and sometimes you just do that on blind faith.
You don't always know.
Sometimes you know I'm sureyou've found this many times.
It is.
It's that first step and thenyou take it.
You don't really know what'sgoing to be the outcome of that.
You just know you can't stay inthe situation that you're in.
Sabine (19:39):
And even you know what I've done now in the last month.
You know people ask me.
They're like why are you doingthis move?
Why are you giving upeverything your family, your
friends, boyfriend, likeeverything?
You're traveling halfway aroundthe world to nothing, like
there's nothing waiting for you,and it's one of those things,
(20:00):
like I don't know.
I felt this calling to do thisand I've had a multitude of
little reasons that would Icould argue for this, but there
was like a million reasonsagainst it, you know, but it's
no, it's you have.
I have, at this point in my lifeand that's something else I
feel like we have at 50 that wedon't have at 20 or we're not
(20:23):
aware of a 20, like this, this,this inner calling, this
instinct, you know, this innateknowing that this is what I need
to do.
I can't tell you exactly why,but it feels so right and I'm
going to do this.
And I have, at this point, Ihave the faith in this feeling
that it's going to be fine.
(20:44):
And yes, I do not have all theanswers.
I don't know, I don't knowexactly how this is going to
work out and what I need to.
I don't know the house, I don'tknow, but that's okay and I
have faith in that that it's allgoing to reveal itself.
All I need to do is take thatfirst step, and there's many
little first steps in this place.
I'm like I don't know how to dothis, but I'm just going to go
(21:06):
and try, let's see what happens,you know, and yeah, it's all
magically always works out.
Jennifer (21:14):
Yeah, I think it's great.
I think too and wouldn't yousay that you're also in that
accepting responsibility too?
Right, like you're saying, I'mdoing this and I don't know
what's going to happen?
Because I think that's what Iwould say about myself.
I would say I own my choices,like good or bad, I'm okay.
If I'm going to jump, I'm notgoing to jump toe in, we're
going to dive in, and if itfails, it fails, but I'm going
(21:36):
to own it.
I'm going to say, yeah, I didthat, screwed up, it's okay.
And I think that's what setspeople you know, like you free,
because you can say I'm going todo this, my intuition says this
feels right, and if it screwsup, it screws up, it's not the
end of the world, I'll move on,I'll pick myself up and I'll
just walk to the next thing.
Sabine (21:56):
Right.
But see, for me there's no suchthing really as screwing up,
like at this point in my lifeit's like I am not going to
judge myself and like say, howcould you do this?
How did you like?
There's no failure, there's noscrewing up, there's only
experiences.
So, honestly, like I don'tthink this is going to be my
final destination.
(22:16):
I don't know.
People are like, oh, you'regoing to come back to California
, and I'm like maybe I will,maybe I won't, I don't know, but
I'm not looking at it as like,oh, this failed and I'm back in
California.
No, I am loving this time ofexploring, of venturing out, of
exploring foods, and like I goto Zomat one weekend and I'm
(22:39):
going to Athens next weekend andI'm going to Switzerland in
between, and it's so cheap totravel here.
You know it's like that's notthere's failure, there's really
rich experiences along the wayand I'm letting it guide me to
Okay, let's go explore here, goexplore there and let's see
where it takes me.
But I don't.
(23:00):
I Never think of this asfailure.
There's no failure.
It's.
It's so amazing, it's it keepsI.
Honestly, I feel like this iswhat keeps us alive, when we can
go out and explore, explore ouroutside world, but also explore
what's going on in there, likehow does that feel, you know?
(23:22):
And then adjust, adapt, changeor maybe love it and say, oh, my
god, I didn't know, I had thisin me, you know it's.
It's such a beautiful, rich Wayto live, instead of judging
ourselves and saying, well, youmight fail, and then what?
No?
Jennifer (23:42):
and I agree with you.
Thank you for saying thatbecause I agree with you.
That was probably a poor choiceon my work, on my behalf.
Anyways, because I agree withyou 100%, I say everything is an
experience, like I Use thatword screwed up, because so many
people do do that right.
Like they say I failed at this,would know like you and I think
of it.
No, you didn't, because youlearned something.
If you know how to find theblessing in that and pick up the
(24:03):
message, then you learnsomething from it.
I think a lot of peoplesometimes I don't say a lot I
think some people fail to pickup the message, the takeaway
from it.
They just say yes, eatthemselves up and say I messed
up, when you and I both knowthere's no mess up.
Really.
It was a wrong path, but youneeded to gain something from
the wrong path and in your caseyou know and I could probably
(24:24):
add to that and say that I thinklife is about experiences.
I think that everything we dois about how we're bettering
Ourselves, those around us andanything that we can do.
If we go in that mindset ofeverything that we take on, it's
just another experience to addto the you know, to our tool
belt.
I had a.
I had a gal.
I have a good friend here thatshe worked with my kid.
(24:45):
She's an elite runner, was anOlympic trial marathon runner.
I have not forgotten or Ibrought on my show.
In the very beginning we talkedabout this.
One of the questions was whenyou're standing up on the
starting line with all theseelite Olympic trial runners and
you're up there and I'm gettingchills telling you this.
Right now she's standing upthere.
These are the best of the bestin the running right.
They're trying to try out forthe Olympics.
(25:06):
You know what are you thinkingand she's you know comes back to
.
I rely on my tool belt, I relyon what I know and what I've
trained for in the experienceall the things that I've done
that you continue to take in.
So Did she make it every time?
No, because that's part of it,but she would have never had any
of the experiences.
Has she never tried out and waswilling to risk not making it
(25:26):
right?
So I'm with you.
I don't think there arefailures.
I think there are lessonslearned and we have to just get
really good at being gratefulfor those experiences.
Sabine (25:35):
Right, I'm learning to find the message that we're
supposed to take away from itbut I like you said it like that
because it made me point thatout, because a lot of people do
that they we're our worstcritics and we put ourselves
down and we're not very nice toourselves, you know.
But I think we all need toremember and say, wait a second,
(25:57):
no, you did Make the bestchoice that you knew at the time
, for whatever reason, andthat's that's good.
As long as things are integritywith who you are, for me that's
the most important.
As long as it's an integrityand I'm like, yeah, I can stand
for this, I will stand for mychoice, then the rest it's just.
(26:22):
There's only gain, there'snothing to lose, you know.
Jennifer (26:26):
I love it and I love it You're.
You know, headspace is I don'tknow what tomorrow's gonna bring
, or if I'm gonna go back toCalifornia, if I'm gonna stay
here.
I think that's great and Ithink that that's how we have to
be open to Opportunity andthings that come because our
priorities change, you know wejust, we enter different phases
of our lives and we decide.
You know one point, you know,when our kids are growing up,
(26:47):
there are priority not that wedon't love our kids when they're
older, but when they're youngerour priority is there to guide
them and lead them.
And then at some point theykind of take off and they're
doing their lives and doingtheir things and we enter into
the different domain when now wehave freedom to do other things
.
And I think that's what'sbeautiful Is that you know, when
you get to a place where you'resaying I can take in these
(27:07):
enriched experiences.
I don't know where tomorrow isgoing to lead me, I may be doing
something different, but you'reliving out your extraordinary.
Sabine (27:14):
And that's really what this is all about right, right,
and I, I I'm very grateful thatI found a way to Do what I love
to do at the same time.
Like I work with my clientsWhile I'm here.
It makes no difference, becausethey're all over the map.
Anyways, you know, I record mypodcast episodes, I have my mic
(27:36):
with me or headphones, and LikeI can get to do everything that
I love to do now, matter whereI'm at.
So it all fits together soperfectly.
I saw, I feel very grateful that, you know, I get to do all of
the things that I Want to do,but at the same time, these are
(27:56):
the results of our choices andwe have nobody else to blame but
ourselves.
If it's not, if it doesn't feelgood, you know, if it doesn't
feel good, yes, sometimes I meanI would have never done this, I
don't know, three years ago,when my kids were still in high
school, like I would have neverleft my kids, you know, but my
kids moved on.
So now it was, you know, likenow it was up to me to say, okay
(28:19):
, what am I gonna do?
So I, if I would have stayed inredondo in California and sat
there by myself, an empty house,and felt sorry for myself.
Well, that would be my choicetoo.
You know, it's up to us to takethe initiative and say, okay,
I'm gonna take care of myself,what is it gonna be?
What do you want?
But for that, we need to getclarity on what it is that we
(28:41):
want.
And that's a process, you know,and that's what I work with a
lot of people with and to figureout, help them figure out.
What do you want?
What do you actually desire?
Let's figure that out and thengo for it.
Jennifer (28:56):
Yeah, that's a hard thing for a lot of people
because you asked that question.
They don't always know rightLike they.
They're conditioned to thinkthey what they've been thought
they want.
And if they really just startdigging in deep, they really
start recognizing that a lot ofthings they're probably doing in
life aren't really in alignmentwith what they really want to
be doing.
Right, and it can be a wake upcall.
Sometimes you have these crisesand that's what you know says
(29:17):
hey, what am I doing?
Why is it?
Why are these things happeningin my life?
I'm not saying bad things, asbad things do happen to good
people.
I'm talking about when we haverepeated repetitive bad patterns
that we're doing picking poorchoice jobs, men, whatever the
case is in our lives, right,these poor choices we start
looking and going.
They're not in alignment withwho we are and what we want in
our lives, and so I love thatthat you brought that up.
Sabine (29:40):
Yeah, I know it's, it's, it's important, it's the most
important step to get clarity onthat in order to achieve your
joy, your happiness.
So you're, you live your dream.
Jennifer (29:53):
Yeah, okay, well, I love it.
So, being what I'd love to knowfrom you we said so many great
takeaways in this today, I thinkif we were to like put the
bullet points, I'm going to lovewhen this thing goes in says
take all the takeaways and wecan all bullets from this Cause.
So many great things.
But somebody right now wetalked about, you know, getting
clarity, taking ownership.
You know, being open toexperience is not looking at, as
(30:14):
you know, as missed goals, asfailures, but more as lessons
learned.
Right, but one, maybe one thingthat you would leave somebody
with that maybe they're rightnow, they're kind of sitting in
this place right now wherethey're going.
I want to do somethingdifferent tomorrow.
We've told them to get clarityand take that step.
Anything else you want to addthat they could do differently
in their in, maybe in theirmindset or in their day, or
(30:37):
something they could bring tohelp them make that step?
Sabine (30:41):
Well, I think the biggest thing holding all of us
back is fear, cause there'sreally only two things there's
love and there's fear.
So it's not love, it's fear.
So recognize that and thechoices you make start to get an
(31:06):
awareness for it.
Ask yourself and say okay, whatI'm choosing here?
Am I choosing this out of fearor out of love?
And when I mean love, it's notjust love for the thing or love
for the person, for somebodyelse, but love for yourself.
So, like, get into a pattern ofasking yourself, because then
(31:27):
you're going to figure out ifit's an alignment with who you
truly are, like authenticallyare, and how you truly want to
live your life, and when it's.
And you got to be so honestwith yourself, like you don't
have to tell anybody else, butjust be honest with yourself and
say no, I'm choosing thisbecause I'm afraid, I'm afraid
(31:50):
to lose that person, I'm afraidto be alone, I'm afraid to end
up alone.
And then you know, and then youknow where your work begins.
Jennifer (32:00):
Love it.
That's good, that's good, allright.
Well, real quick, tell us alittle bit about your podcast,
in case somebody wants to plugin and learn more about this.
Sabine (32:09):
So the podcast is called the Power Life and it talks,
especially right now, like forthe last I want to say couple of
months every week.
It really shares what I'm goingthrough up in my head, like my
whole process of deciding to dothis and the different phases I
(32:29):
go through.
And the funny thing is like Isit down and I have an idea of
what I want to talk about andthen, as I'm recording this, I'm
actually working through mychallenges and at the end I'm
like, well, thank you very much.
All right, so it's been a lotof fun to share, like to really
share what's going on, and likethis morning, I had three things
(32:54):
I had worked on over theweekend.
I'm like, oh my God, I need torecord this.
And I recorded three episodesat once.
I'm like, okay, this was one,let's do another one, this needs
to come out, this needs to comeout of my head and I need to
finish processing this.
So it's really fun.
It's life as in, like life aswhat it's going on right here.
It's very raw, it's veryauthentic and, yeah, it's like I
(33:19):
feel like I'm sharing, like I'mtalking to you.
You know it's okay, let's talkabout this.
What's going on.
Oh my gosh.
So yeah, it's me.
It's just raw and authentic me.
Jennifer (33:32):
I love it, so do they.
What website do we send them to, I guess, if they want to catch
up with you?
I'm sure, after listening tothis, there's going to be some
people out there that want tofind out what you're doing,
follow this story, you know, andsee where you end up, where we
want to send them.
Sabine (33:45):
So the easiest is my website.
It's calledthepowerlifecoachcom and there
is links to the podcast andthere's links to my social media
.
I'm pretty active on LinkedInand I've been neglecting a
little bit the other ones, justbecause it's been too much, too
much work and with the move andeverything.
So, yeah, thepowerlifecoachcom,that's really the best place to
(34:11):
get started.
Jennifer (34:12):
You do great stuff in LinkedIn, by the way, and I do
think for what you do becauseyou and I do you know similar
things in that we're talkingabout success and all of that.
I think LinkedIn is a reallygood platform and I love your
photos, I love all your stuffthat goes in there.
You're doing a great job, youknow, in that particular
platform, so keep doing yourthing, I love it.
I'm very excited to be back tothis whole badass iron sister
(34:32):
thing.
I love it because I think thatit just it just embodies you and
I'm excited to see you knowwhere you travel and what you
end up you know along thisjourney.
I think it's fun and you're ina great place.
So I say kudos to you for beingable to to you worked hard and
you put yourself in thisposition so that you could do
this.
Sabine (34:51):
Thank you, I appreciate it.
Yes, it's fun.
It's very exciting.
I'm looking forward tocontinuing to share.
Jennifer (34:59):
That's really cool, very cool.
Well, we do want to say, ofcourse, to our listeners if you
enjoy this episode, be sure youhead on over to Apple, give us a
review over there.
You can check us out on YouTube, hit that subscribe button and
reach out to Sabine so you canfollow her and keep up with what
she's doing and watch, you know, listen to her podcast.
It sounds like a fun thing.
And I was going to say to thatpoint Sabine, sometimes us
(35:21):
talking through the things ishow we work through the things,
right?
So kudos to you for being rawand authentic in that one.
And, as I always say, in orderto live the extraordinary you
must start, and every startbegins with a decision.
You guys, take care, be safe,be kind to one another, and we
will see you next time.
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