August 9, 2024 • 51 mins
6'9" Muscle Beach legend, known for extreme calisthenics, actor, producer, rapper, model, and philanthropist shaping Venice Beach culture.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to behind the Scenes where you're half asked entertainment
news with no bullshit with our hosts Summer Helen and
Bear Fjorda, only on Talk four Media.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Gooday, guys, welcome to behind the Scenes. I'm your host,
Summer Helene, and we are home with my co host,
Guinea Pig McGee.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I don't dislike that. There are definitely better names. I
have been called bear Bottoms before.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
That was Ken. Shout out to that guy, fantast I
wanted to thank you. I don't think that's what he
wanted to do. But if you had said it at
the time of reporter, you would.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Have done it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I have to give a shout out. I'm like
having so much trouble with these ear things. I love
my headphones. He got me, but I like my outfits,
so I'm stuck with I still want to wear my
sparkly headbands and I want to, but my ears stick out,
So it's this weird combination of headbands and kiddie is.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
People know you have ears on the inside, You're fine.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I have dumbo ears, always have. Speaking of guinea pigs,
the little rodent that Ariana Grande is dating, that left
his wife for her, what it's like what you called? Well,
that was my segue, but we got distructed.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
His dumb SpongeBob.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh no, he's gross.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
SpongeBob, he's gross. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The guy that couldn't get his end in chase this
girl down forever, begs this girl to get involved, finally get.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
It, gets her, impregnates her, and then leaves her for
the baby's board.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeap, because the first girl that paid him attention outside
of his wife was a chick he was stuck with.
And I cannot wait until he loses Ariana Grande to
the next guy she cheats with, because that's how she
goes from relationship to relationship. And if you are dumb
enough to get into a relationship, wait, that would be
good for you. Ariana Grande. I have someone for you
take my boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
She won't take what's offered. She takes because it's do.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Not have my boyfriend. That wouldn't be spectacular.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
We're not married.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You got to you got to marry me first.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't want to marry you.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That's her also protecting me from arian what we don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You don't want her bees. Come on, get it together.
It's good for press.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Poor man.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He better take.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
He really made a horrible decision like that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I know, Well, you got to look at it like
every bloke she's gotten with. I mean, her daddy issues
have daddy issues, and I get it, my daddy issues
have commitments.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Why does she chase men who already committed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Because her dad, her dad left her, her dad left
her mom for another woman. Been chasing, she's been chasing. Yeah,
she's been the other woman since.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Well, I guess she saw how well it works for reason.
Good day, Yanna, welcome in the comments there.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yana is on now tomorrow. I got to tell you guys.
Next week, I'm going to start this show before we
get into our taste test and all the weird stuff
I'm gonna do to bear, I am going to start
this with a warning. Next week we will be at
doctor Shazia's office and she will be live doing botox
and filler and all kinds of ship to my face.
So if you are squeamish with blood, next week's show
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is not for you. Bear is going to be leading it. Well,
I get my face injected with a bunch of crap.
I'd like to remind everyone every time we use bad language,
we give money the Boys and Girls Club of America,
the Humane Society of America, and Free Mma. We swear because.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
We're got fucking three. Crap isn't a bad word.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes it is. My grandma watches this show.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You will tell distract how Grandma?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That's not a bad word.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
It's a bad word, ma'am. I got distracted. I was
gonna say yes, So next week you're going to be there.
I'm still going to be here in this in our
space at the home. But I was going to se
if you are squeamish around blood, but you want to
try some.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was actually gonna have you come with me.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What's that thing called like adverse therapy where they kind
of put you exposure exposure therapy? You guys, can you.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Don't do it? It's bloody. It's you'll see needles like,
don't do it. It's needles going into the face.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Yeah, you could pretend like the needle's just getting pushed
back into the If.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You like gross, if you like gross to you don't know.
If you don't, don't. But we are going to be
on with doctor Shazia. She's one of the stars of
our upcoming or one of our up and coming shows.
She is the beauty queen. You will get to know her.
She essentially, if you're FuG moo, she can fix it, man.
And if you're not FuG moo, she can make sure
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nothing SAgs.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
There's no better advertising than that you ugly, I will
fix you.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That's pretty much it. She can fix ugly and that
makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
But is it look subjective? I mean you might be
ugly to somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, I'm freaking gorgeous.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I was way.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I was a victorious secret model. I am a objectively.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Pretty Yes, I will agree with that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm not sexy, I'm not stunning. I am objectively pretty.
I have that kind of girl next door pretty.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And I know I want to defend you against you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You are to you. That's what they mean by subjective.
There is objective and subjective to you. I am sexy
to him. He finds me sexually, and that opinion is subjective. Okay,
pretty fits in certain boxes. Yes, I am objectively pretty.
I fit in the parameters are pretty. You are an
objectively handsome man. People may not like the Roman noses,
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or they may not like beards, but you are statistically
and technically attractive.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
You know this, I talking about attractive.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I had a terrible conversation this morning with the with
the ups lady when I went to drop off some
packages to return.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
No, no, very much.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I don't mean to assume people's sexual orientation, but this
lady is definitely not into men.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So you get long with lesbians. No, she's very usually
you do.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well, It's I'm not what I'm saying fair enough.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I'm just saying she started off super angry and aggressive
over a package I had because it was still in
the box.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And uh, that's besides, that's not even the point that
I'm trying to bring up.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
And I was gonna say that typically when people are attractive,
they get a little more leeway for the behavior. This
was an overly attractive person. I might have been a
little bit more like Cordone trying to work it out.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And that's all. But because she was like mean, beauty bias.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Very unattractive, it was like I was immediately just like,
all right, flexing your tits for it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that's what you would have had to do if
you want her to get on with you, if she's
into women, you had to walk in with some tatars.
Do you have tatas?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Why would I care? I didn't just try to give
her a package.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'm just saying, if you want beauty bias to work
on women that like women, you have to have boots,
all right, fair enough, the same as gay guys. I
do not get a pass with gay guys. Yeah, it's
like the only club I have to buy drinks in
my whole life of being gay. I mean women will
buy them for me, but I mean memoir.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm just saying beautivis doesn't work that way.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
We can segue now because I talked about ugly back
into a Ariana grande.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
See that's how it's going to be living together. I
want to get my face injected. We will take Bear's
manager to get her face injected.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
What did you call her? Thing her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I thought you called them a commoner. No, like you're
English and.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He sucks as here. You're a fair partner.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
And one of his most recent interviews, the fair partner,
he said, I cannot wait to get divorced. He's like
so excited to marry Ariana, which it baffles me.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
A couple of months and wait for her to.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Leave him for the next guy. I just want him
to feel the pain that he caused his ex. But
you know this Ski's bag is going to go running
back to the baby mama trying to put.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It back together. The problem is he's done.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Like But the thing is, you know, his carrying some
is like so objectively, Ariana Grande, you will welcome to
sue me for this. Ariana grand is known to have
STDs that is commonly known in Hollywood and Chicky, if
you want to assume me, you are welcome to, because
then you've got a proven court. You don't so we
can do this. But she does. She has she has
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fun transmitted diseases. She is a carrier and she infects people.
So he oh, no, I'm being very clear.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No, it's not that I don't care who's right or wrong.
In this situation, she's got so much money and lawyers
that we're never gonna win.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't care. I don't want to be in debt
for the next.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I know, I know, I know. I'm not calling her
a tramp. I'm calling her a disease bag.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, some people can be born with genetic diseases. You
have accumulated.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
She she got it from a few different things. Ah, okay,
hey we're talking, Derek Jeter level herpie tree.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Can we try my chips?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We will. I'm just let me finish. I'm cool with that.
I keep trying to get the stretch of sciential Judas was.
I'm fine with Arina grand as suingers. The reality is,
if you hear me stop talking about Ariana Grande, it's
because we're going to court. The reality is she carries
sexually transmitted diseases. So if this guy goes back to
his partner after that, my heart breaks to his partner.
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I hope she doesn't take him back, because when Ariana
Grandi lives to infect the next man.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
This was such a public and I don't want to
use the words horrific, Zonna, how it was probably horrific
for herself public and horrific event for her that I
doubt she will take him back Pride alone.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He didn't want to date him in the first place.
You know, this little dweeb chased her down through drama
school because she was the best chick he was ever
going to get. And the minute he got a change
with skank pants McGee, that's what she did. And the
little skeazy dude, the SpongeBob.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's funny. They only did it together because they were
on the set.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, that's it. He was probably just the most famous
person on set or naming the boss.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's the one. So they spent time together and it's funny,
and it was during the pandemic. The reality is I
dated a lot of guys that I was on set
with when I acted, because that's who you're on set with.
I didn't sleep with them. Arian It's possible not to
just f YI. Shout out to Ariana. You don't have
to fuck everybody. The point is you can if you
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want those shout out to. You know, alexis my ghost
when we talk about no, no, no, fine, I'm just
giving a shout out to what is it king for dummies?
And you can and you can fuck everyone, or you
can fuck nobody. I don't care. But once you start
touching other girls stuff, you suck as a human like
(10:47):
I'm sorry, especially I have it, so it's just nah.
And then you infected it so she can't even take
it back. You made it gross. It is like it's
like she chewed up the meat and spat it back
on the plate.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Nobody wants it, Like when she licked the glass.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, yeah, no, that was gross. She looked the doughnuts.
The girl's always been trash.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, speaking of trash trash?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So what he said, speaking of gross trash to put
in your mouth?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Can I start with the bad one?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
We're gonna start with a few different ones, the gross
to the gross trash to put in your mouth. We
have seaweed chips, we have chili chips, we have squid chips,
and we have chicken chips. I love chicken chips. F Yi,
tho min.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I don't know if you guys ever knew this. But
lace also I didn't know this. I didn't know lace
was an international la laze I call them lace.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Lace is the white thing that I wear that see through.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, but this is l a y s l A
y Z.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, lazy seaweed chip. Tell me how they take the hatch.
So anyway, as we talk about what a slut ariana
Grande is, we will try chips. Now. I'm all for,
by the way, slut shaming, and the only reason I
am for it is I think humanity has lost its shame.
And hear me out on this. How's the chip?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
This is a solid four out of ten. I think
if you've liked seaweed, it's for you. If you don't
like seaweeds, it's a waste of your money.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay, so four out of ten World Market lays chips.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You don't want to throw it up, it's just un unpleasant.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Next we are going to try squid.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We don't want to break it in hats.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Put it now. Anyway, The point is.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
When you.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Hm, yeah, finish your chip. This is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What does it taste like?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I have had calamari?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Does it taste like calamari?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
No, it tastes like a bastardized version of what squid
might be.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
So this was made by somebody who doesn't know what
squid tastes like.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I feel like a lot of them are made by
people who don't know what the item tastes like.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
They just have a synthetic formula for it. Like they
did not kill a Cavendish.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's like the Cavendish banana.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
They did not sprinkle squid juice on these chips. You
understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You want juice on the chips.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No, I don't want to juice on the chips.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I can go in the freezer and I can get
the full the squid and I can put squid juice
on your chips.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Why do I have squid in the freezer?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
My mom left squid in the freezer. I remember she left.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I didn't cook that. No, so he'said frozen whole squid.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, I can make it tonight.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No, you don't.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
No, I don't want anything to do with squid after
those chips. I sound like I'm bitching. It's because I am.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't. I'm done anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Speaking of gross things, you can find that a fishy
Ariana Grande.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
The whole stream is just hating on this chick. I'm
not a posed.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
No, I don't want to pay and three point because
we call their fishy.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Okay, you know what we've only gotten suit a few times.
We're fine. The reality is ain't the chip. The reality
is he is the major problem girls like I have
a problem with, Like if my friend slept with my guy,
I would have a serious problem with my friend. It's
not the guy. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's not even hot. That's disgusting. What is that called?
That's chili chili?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What chili play?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I don't read.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Just chili.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's Japanese sweet spicy.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
If you guys like chips or if you like chili's,
don't buy this. Not ringing endorsement, ringing endorsement, my ass.
I'll tell you what I.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Am actively saying.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Do not get I'm not going to make him eat
the chicken ones.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's the one I was holding.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No, it's fine, I'm not going to make him eat
those ones.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I don't know what that sound was, just your damn chip.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But the reality is you got a little wise.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
These are the same size as the.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Other one way, I'm not taking it. I just want
to show them. I wanted the size of the one
he got when he ate brawn versus the half or
third of the chicken.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It is what We're only trying them out it's not
like it's a huge impact like chicken chips.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
The reality is, though, when you do things like that
to people in media, it comes back to you.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Okay, that's the best, but still not great.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Really, you didn't like the chicken chip.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
No, I've had your Australian chips.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I thought's what I thought it would be.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
They are so much better than this. It's a little
bit spicier, but this is Australia. This is a Japanese Actually.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We've got all Japanese and that's really cool.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
But I guess it's just not flavors they're accustomed to.
I don't know what you would call them.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
That's a chicken chip. I think you've just had too
many flavors in your mouth. We should have spaced it
out again.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We're testing the viral chips, I know.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So test it again in five minutes, and I think
it will taste more like the chipper tastes likees.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'll just be consuming chips at that point five. You
have a fight.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So Bear is to Christopher from Milf Milk Mana and
we are going to invite out Hooper by the way,
from YouTube. So he's got him in September, and then
of course the gent we have on today Ike. We
are setting up at that fight as well.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, I'm actually excited.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But I heard he's not fighting you. He'll sit on you.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wouldn't win. There's not a chance.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh no, no, Jared Vendera turned around. He's like, I'll
do it. I'm like, no, no, no, he's an amateur
and we want him alive. Adding we are not putting
Jared Vendera with Ike, but he's also sick, like I
eventually will very distinct advantages. I eventually, eventually I would
have Ike fight Jared Vendera, but not now. I'd like
to point out, Yeah, we've got icon. Jared Vendera just
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left U see, I'm not putting him with Ike for
his second amateur about.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Like, no, We'll give him a couple, give him a few.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Then.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Third fight. I'm sending him to New York at the
end of the year. Get it together, don't kill my fighters.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I'm sorry, you just want.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
To be the only fighter I'd like to welcome to
the show.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I come on, we go, Hello, How are you?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
I'm good?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
How you guys don't good?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
God, he's gorgeous. He's going to get way better ratings than.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You just right out the gate. But you know, I'm
not going to argue in that. Man, you look insanely yo.
Uh you know what, this is not going to be
your first fight, right, this is, uh the second.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
One, the second one.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah, how did you feel in your first cage fight?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well? Very interesting.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I mean I'm I'm a show man, so I'm always
used to the crowd and the attention. But of course
fighting is a different story. I don't worry your life,
you know, like it's uh something about it. When you're
fighting for your life and you fight before you you know,
surviving that you get a little bit more, You feel
(17:51):
more of the moment, you know. So I'm and Joe.
I did, of course a little bit nervous leading up
to the fight, but uh after it was done, and
I was very happy I did it. You know, I
got that experience and I'm excited to get back in there,
you know, get back in the ring.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
That's exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, we spoke into in the first place.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We spoke over Spasta and because he's so tall and
so big, we have every match Baker in California and
Camo looking for a fight for you and his mate
Jared vendera Johmpson. He's like, he's a heavyweight, I'll do it.
I'm like, absolutely fucking not that. We're just started to
kill chill later later. So you everyone thinks it's going
(18:34):
to be a star. I know we are putting you
in a television show upcoming that's following up and coming fighters.
I know, bears managers trying to take you. See, you
know you're not the favorite anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Listen, I don't need Jana wants him good help young
fighters progress.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That's what I can conturn with.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, you know, it's a good manager to your manager.
So for you stepping into fighting, is it different than
doing building that sort of thing?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah, it was much different.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
See, I don't know if you can see it from here,
Like I'm literally right at muscle Beach in Venice.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Nice, see all the bodybuildings. Nice man, you're literally at
muscle bee.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I want to go to his house, Like, that's fantastic.
He's the best few in town.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Right looking at.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Muscle Beach, you're sitting on hair eating chips. This is
why he looks like, Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, fighting is a lot more about fighting is more
I would say a little bit more multi dimensional than
body building. So bodybuilding is more about like mastering these
movements that are isolating the muscles. But when you're fighting,
you're kind of trying to like be very functional and
have everything work together. Also, fighting strength is not everything
(19:57):
like like you know, it's a combination of different things.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You gotta be flexible, you gotta be.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Smart, you gotta you gotta have strategy, you gotta be fast,
and you gotta be strong, you know. So it's it's
all about how you play your parts. So also fighting
you need a partner, So it's kind of like dancing, right,
bodybuilding you can do on your own.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
So I would say one of them is conditioning.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Bodybuilding is pretty much conditioning strength and conditioning, and it's it's, uh,
you you yourself gotta tailor your workouts towards whatever fighting
style you have or how you want to fight. So
it's it's different that like bodybuilding is very flexed up,
you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Like I'm compared it to dancing. I'm like, if I'm
dancing and I'm bleeding, something is going terribly wrong.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Well, you know, I mean, if that's what it is,
you kind of go back and forth. It's it's not.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
It's not it's not a romantic bans you know, it's
pure business.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It sounds awful, but you made it sound you made
what sounds like my nightmare and so many people's nightmare
would be getting in that case, you made it sound wonderful.
Pretty much money I spent.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
No.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I love what you're talking about kind of curtailing that training,
that what you're doing leading up to your fight and
for your for competitions.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
What did you did?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
You have a specific thing that you kind of cater
to when you're getting ready for your fight.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
We want to do that. But also while you have
you you have to put on fifty pounds for the
fight with him, I know, ask him he could help you.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
You were saying, well, what I noticed is like, you know,
I'm a bodybul so I'm kind of like the gallon
figure for muscle beach.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
So I have to keep bodybuilding to keep my body
in shape, otherwise I lose my physique.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
But leading up to a fight, I will definitely just
like cut down on the iron. I would still do calistatics,
but I almost will pump no iron because what happens
with the iron is it kind of makes you a
little bit stiff, you know, so when you're like when
you when you want to swing in punches, you want
to move, you don't want to have that pump, you know,
for example, the chest pump right chest right now, my
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chest that's.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Not really pumped a block.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
I can like protect myself well, right, but if I'm
all pumped up, I have a hard time get in
my hands together and and and kind of like being
fluid in those in those situations. So I'm not saying
not too for a fighter that they can pump no iron,
but I'm saying not to do to the point where
you all stiff and pumped, which we do sometimes of bodybuilding,
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you know what I mean, which is part of it.
So leading up to the fight was interesting for me
to learn to learn too because it was my first fight.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I still pumped a little bit of.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Iron like like like probably like a day or so
before the fight, and I felt I shouldn't have deb
you know, I put like in the fight and made
a little bit stiff, you know. So like definitely a
week or two leading them to the fight, I would
not pump on the iron. I would still do pushups, calistatics,
pull ups, muscle ups, dips, bodyweight exercises, but not no
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heavy weight. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, he works out way more than you.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do, so much more. It's very physically speaking, like and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Because he works he does about eight hours a day
of fighting, but he does none of the other stuff,
right right, It's interesting to see the different approaches.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Well, it's very interesting too with the fighting style because
it helps you a lot in the wrestling. You know,
it's not necessarily the best like for you for your
punching speed, but first of all, you're gonna have punching
power even though you're speeding night just strong. Like if
you bench ben, you're gonna have a punch of power.
And in the wrestling you're gonna have very big advantages.
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My style in fighting is wrestling, and you stand up striking,
you know, Like I have the background the taypon those
with that pretty good and.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
A little bit a little bit of boxing.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
So but when I get into the wrestling, it's really
when I'm like most people, I can out wrestle them,
even if I'm technically not.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
That advanced because I'm wearing strong yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Six nine of course you can out wrestle everyone. You're
a tree.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Yeah, but for the rest that's not necessarily the best
because you know, people get below you to go for
your leg, and you know, like even though six foot nine,
you gotta know how to like use six foot nine,
like fighting height is good, but it's not necessarily the
best thing.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
I would say in boxing for sure, because you got
all your reach, But in the cage, not necessarily because
I have to for example, below like I'm not. I
can't be high, I pine when I'm fighting, otherwise it's
gonna get taken down. So I have to be like
in the middle, I gotta be low. So even though
I'm six foot nine, I can't really like use all
my height, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, So we're looking for an opponent for you
right now. We're trying to make sure we don't want
someone with too much experience. Shout out again to Jared Vendera.
We'll talk to you later, but because you don't have that,
and so we're going through. Do you know how hard
it is, and I'm sure you do to find someone
that wants to fight a six foot nine body.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Built up, well, that is that is that's the interesting
part because the first fight that I had like about
a month ago, Like we were looking for somebody for
about I think a year and the guy I was fighting,
he had the same problem because he was an amateur.
But he's really big guy too. He was six seven,
huge guy from France, Sanago, and nobody wanted to fight him.
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And I was like, you ain't an one to fight.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I went to fight.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Let's just do that.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, And it was good. I like one thing about it.
I wish I had a little bit more time to
prepare because I had like a two week note. At
the same time, I was booked for a movie that curiously,
like you know, I'm an actor too, I was booked
for a movie that there's an MMA movie throwing Hands.
So in my preparation, I was still on sets working
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five am.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I was at seven am in the morning. So like.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
On my next fight, like I definitely would like take
more time to prepare, you know what I mean, and
get in there a little bit more ready.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But I did.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I did with what I did, what I had did
with a cook of my head almost knocked the guy out.
He won with wonder the points because he kept attacking
my leg again.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He played points. So if you watch the fight the
guy did. I've seen Bell is the same way. Actually,
especially when he first started. He's trying to knock the
guy out and the other guy is just making sure
he doesn't get knocked out and doing the takedowns counting points. Yeah,
you was like, you did. You put on a good show.
You really did, and that's what matters. The big thing
was though, it was the takedowns. Takedowns were so much
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more than ahead. So I watched the thing. That's all
I saw.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
If I had to fight you, I don't need to
take it down.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You know, I.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Wouldn't stand up for three fucking seconds. You would never
see my.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Eyeballs bears on his leg and won't let go. So
in your case, I do have to say Yana's actually
on his She's like, we can find someone internationally. You
know that you are intimidating when we're making calls and
I'm like, hey, you know this is an internationally televised fight.
It's an AMMI fight. You want to come, you know,
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fight this guy. Everyone I'm talking to like, yeah, I'm like,
he's a six foot nine bodybuilder off.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That turnarounds real fast.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's just immediate. So we finally cultures.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
That's usually the that's usually the problem, especially once they
see the stuff that are doing on the bars, because
I'm like more than a body, but I'm like the heavier,
the heaviest heavyweight mucklups handstands and like crazy stuff nobody
can do.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Here's the question. So he has a fight with Sence.
They said, at the end of the year, we will
be putting you on that fight POWD. That's gonna be
in New York or Vegas, but I think they're moving
it to New York through access. He needs to put
on like fifty pounds and not be giggly because when
he did last time put on weight and started putting
on weight for Worlds, he got jiggly, right, not good
for the other.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Stuff we're doing. I don't have a ton of I.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Keep telling eating KFC is not session. That is not
he eats KFC to put on weight.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Right, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
That's the theory of clean balking and thirty balking, right,
I don't believe in clean balking. Like I think you
should just like probably like get a little bit more
of a weight regiment and then just like eat clean
protein and just you know trouble really get your weight up,
you know what I mean, Like you said, you don't.
You don't do no pumping iron at all, So you
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can easily fifty pounds.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Is a lot, but you can.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Probably take definitely put on like twenty hounds, Like there's
no problem. You just stop pumping that Eyron.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You know he can.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Put on twenty pounds with KFC. We've done that. I've
seen it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, I don't know think you've seen it for a fight,
but you have seen me.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, it's hit between fights that you do it fight CLA.
So you because you're doing bodybuilding, you're not like the
other fighters. You're not like BA, You're not like Patty.
You're not blowing up between fights. And I'm teasing him.
But a lot of these guys they really normally between
fights and then they kind of shrink down, still working out,
but they aren't working out the same way you are.
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So you find being so much more physically fit than
these guys let you out last them even in training.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, fitness is where we are.
How can I put it?
Speaker 8 (29:52):
It ranges in different ways, you know, like you can
be very strong as a bodybuilder, but as a fighter,
do need a lot of cardio, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
So, like like.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
If you if you just work on your strength and
you don't have to endurance to get go the whole way,
that's a it's a definite where like it's a deficity
you know, because like somebody can just play the strategy.
I'm a run from this guy for two rounds. By
the first round, he's going to be gassed. And once
you gassed, you don't your strength. You can't access it
no more, you know. So like that's very important that
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you don't just focus on the basic static lifting, but
incorporate a lot of running and like flu like movement
instead of also get you fluid or functional. So, like
I like to compare it to like a ritual. You've
gotta have the right ritual to be ready for the ring,
you know, if you don't, if you don't, if you
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don't train the right way, you're just not gonna be
ready for that fight, you know. So bodybuilding fitnesses itself,
it's like a toolbox and then you're gonna put You're
gonna pull the tools to pick the tools that you
want that you like. And everybody's different, everybody has a
different You know physique and fighting style like you know,
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like I said, I like to wrestle, I like to punch,
I like to pick, and I still gotta, you know,
like work on learn a lot of jug you know,
I know about it, but I'm not you.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Know, I wouldn't really want to go to the ground
with jiu jitsu. Guys, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We're on his side. He's excellent. So if you could
fight anyone in the UFC. Let's say you go to
the UFC, you get any fight you want. Who do
you want to fight? And you can't say Connor because
you'd sit on him.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I mean, we want to fight.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Like like like I thought Francis Ganado, people would have
been interested to fight, like I was barred with him,
Like I went in there, helped him prepare for.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Who wasn't Ghani? Who's fighting God? Right? So yeah, he
would be interesting to fight.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
And the giant ran on of course, and uh, well
you got.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
To trained for his fight?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
What was that? It was crazy?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like there is no other response.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I'm located in LA but my coach knows his coach.
So I drove down to Las Vegas and I went
into his gym Uh. It was like extreme couture mma
and it was the craziest that my magam walked into
like a bunch of spartans training Hardest Park and you know,
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Francis was already training in there.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I got to meet him.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
I stepped in there like that was Actually I had
like a lot of less experience than I have now
because by now I was spark with Wolff was his
training partner. And I just went in there like with
the courage because you know, like like you know, like as.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
As a warrior, you got to face the challenge, right
and uh it was good.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
You know that's not a challenge is the machine.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
I know, but you aren't gonna stand I'm six foot
mine and very strong too, so yeah, it's planted itself.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Out, you know, like I don't know, I just pokem
in the iron run like that's.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
So.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
How was that fighting with someone Nagano, especially for his size,
is incredibly fast for somebody that big, I.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Mean right right, well, it was it was like a
learning experience the most, you know, like I was able
to hang with him.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I was in there like you know, go in the
full round with them, and like.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
It put it put everything in perspective, you know, like
it gave me the perspective what the storm was in
the world is like, and that I actually have a
chance in the game because I'm in there with a
lot of less experience to the guy, but I'm hanging.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
With them, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
And that's kind of what what it did for me.
While I was like, Wow, what a privilege. First of
all that I got to squirrels the guy, you know,
and second of all that I that I do have
what have what it takes to be a fighter, which
is like because as a as a bodybuilder, I'm very functional,
you know, because I was raised as a martial artist first.
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So most bodybuilders don't train as functional as I do,
you know, but I believe that, like I'm also natural,
like most people like to pump themselves full of drugs,
but I believe the nicest zeke you get is through
really functional training, you know, like a small waist, like
like good like definition like you know, like like like
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you got to have a good ratio between your weight
and what your weight can do.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
That's why you don't want to have barely no fat
because every gram when you got to be like helping
you move, you know.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
So, yeah, what do you think of.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Those guys that do the injections that make the muscle.
What's that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Synthol?
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Yeah, that they're doing there, complete the complete clowns.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Like you know, suing to be able to compete in bodybuilding.
They are already competing in that altered thing that they're
doing now where people can they're doing the story game.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You're not talking about Syntho, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I'm talking about Synthol. The guys with Synthol are now
suing to be able to compete in mister Universe. They're
saying they shouldn't because they've done that. Yep, it's in
court right now.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
That's ridiculous, man, it's not it's no muscles, man.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
It's all it's all liquid. They can compete, they just
lose immediately. I don't know why they have to.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
They're not allowed to compete right now and they're asking, you.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Know, but but let me tell you, like, like I
think some of the pro bodybuilders, some of them too,
they do use a little bit simple where you can't tell,
you know, but they're not going in there like those
crazy guys were just like you know, like just central
out like just like full of.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oil and shit. It's like like.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Looking when you do that, it looks like you ever
seen those really fat old ladies. It was a bunch
of white word jiggles and the hangs down. Yeah they
do that, but like the fluffy version.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Yeah yeah, man, Yeah, it's funny. We touched on it
for a minute. But I want to go back to
you said you were also an actor and you were
preparing for a movie at the time. What got you
into the entertainment world, like all together?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Seriously?
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Well, man, I have a very epic story.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
So usually I am from Austria, Austrian, okay, Arnold, and
I came in Austria. It was a model so I
was doing modeling. I was mister Vienna. So twenty fourteen,
like I came with the ambition to be in a
Hollywood star inn, like in you know, California, La. So
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I came to La and you know, my first make
my first steps in Venice, I stepped on a on
a on a stage. Right, hear muscle beach. I became
Miss the muscle Beach. Then I kind of like fell
into the fitness industry, which at that point was booming.
Twenty fourteen fifteen, there was a lot of like different brands,
and you know, like I was like a promotional fitness model,
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and slowly I started.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
To pursue the acting, so going to acting school.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
And just kind of trying to live that dream of
being a movie star. And uh, like a little didn't know,
like it's a very big dream. It's a little bit
harder than what I thought it was, you know, because
it's like Hollywood is very competitive. Acting is very competitive,
so like people trying to keep you out the game.
And it's like, uh, it's also art. You don't know
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how to do it, you know, like just like fighting
is an art, like acting is literally you have to
just learn it, like, you know, not you can't just read,
you know, give somebody who's never acted the line and
telling how acted. It's like not gonna like be the
same delivery, you know. So yeah, I came with that
dream and I didn't give up a living that dream.
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And I kind of sort of helped my fitness and
muscle beach and this whole uh lifestyle that we that
we got over here in California helped me to to
make it out here for ten years. And then literally
after ten years, I had my big break because it's
pretty it's a big movie that was like I think
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for BT going hand, it's an mm A movie, and ironically, like,
as I'm filming an.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Mm A movie, in the movie, I'm like the owner
of the league, sort of like the Day of White. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
So so so I'm filming the movie and I'm watching
the fight scenes. We had that rampant Jackson in there too. Yeah,
and I'm watching the fights, like you know, and then
literally a week later, I'm fighting in there and it's like, like, you.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Know, everything came full circle and yeah. So I think.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
It's interesting that you wanted to be an actor, went
to m m A and even like I'm offering you
a place in a reality show and I'm off you know,
it's it's kind of MMA seems to be what's pushing
you in the acting world. It's yes, Chase the anting,
and then you start doing an MMA and everyone's like.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Thank you, yes, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
It was very unexpected, but it's very true what you
just said. And I think it's because both of it
is entertainment. You know, like as a fighter, you've got
to put on the show in there. You can't make
that shit boring got to be like you know what
I mean, like for the people to have someone to see.
So it's both in the same way, you know, and
also like I think, you know when the future and
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like you got to like just use.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
The tools that we have to go off as a person.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
You know, like nowadays is everything is hyper speed and it's.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
You gotta be a little bit better every day.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
And that's why all if the fighting, because you got
to step up to the challenge, you know, Like that's
the one thing that was amazing when I had my fight.
It's like I've really trained hard. I want to you know,
into the like real fight preparation that I had, and
I used it to push myself to the next level.
And then finally you get in. You go in there,
you step up to the challenge. It's no other way
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to grow as a man. You gotta face that, and
it's like it's a very tough path to tread on,
but it's also very rewarding because you.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Just get better, you know, you evolve more.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And I feel like naturally because like the bodybuilding I've mastered.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I've been bodybuilding for seventeen years.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
And I know how to I know how to build
a body like and I can I can tell anybody
how to do it, you know, and and through the
bodybuilding with it really teaches.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
You is that natoman you know, like what does what
muscle do?
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Like if I want to trade the chest, I gotta push,
I want to tricips, I got to do this. Then
you know, you figure out the different anatomy like of
how the body is built.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
And that understanding is going to help you in the
fighting too, you know.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
So I feel like, uh, because I'm new to the
fight game, you know, like even though I grew up
do much large, like I got back into the much
large training about like two or three years ago.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I feel like in the next one or two years, like.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I'm going to really like start like like.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Blossoming in that and that as well, And that's just
the natural.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, Well, there aren't a lot of guys your size
in the sport. There really aren't. So if you're going
to go into martial arts, and if you're going to
go into MMA, I think you made a really smart choice.
Just from a marketing perspective, that's my specialty. You've chosen
the smallest pool and in this sport. But that the
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heavyweights in MMA aren't like they were in boxing, and
I think the star power to make them that. It's
the middleweights. There's the smaller guys that we're doing this
in MMA, and everyone wants to see the heavyweights. You
want to see those big fights. It's the same reason
people are amateurs. They learn to fight before they can block,
so the fight's always bloody. It with amateurs. With the
big guys, they like it because of the power. And
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so if we get a couple of stars like you,
like Nagano, I think that will take MMA heavyweights to
that next level which they haven't been.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
M H.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Agree completely.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
It's funny because I think, no matter how good your
skill level right now is, whatever it is, but you
have a much higher chance of getting into a high
promotion league like UFC, PFL wherever than someone else who
may be better than you but at a lower weight yep,
because just just physically speaking, you are so much easier
to market and sell.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well, he's also hot and got a following, and.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Now we have those exactly to it, right Like you
are a.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Promoter's dream, but you're little, just like another one of
the Franceston God are cereal guns? You just you're one
of those very unique guys that we don't see a
lot of period and so it makes it so easier
for the company to want to put you in and
work with you.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
So I think you're saying a year or two years,
I think.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I think you blow up with a Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
If you hit the rest fighting the way you are
only only a month or two months in between one
hundred percent, you're going to catch on really fast.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
Yeah, got.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You will really blow up. And I now I take
my I'm not an MMA fighter, so this is coming
straight from marketing, but I would take my time going
pro because the longer you take and the more they
want you, the more you can sign that contract for
when you flip right, Yeah, I'm just saying I would.
I would drag that out a little bit. Do the
TV shows do like a few different things that way.
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Because the biggest signing bonus UFC ever gave was sixty
thousand dollars for the first fight for Conor McGregor. Right,
he wants to eat it. You should try to like
just beat that first fight signing bonus because it makes
you remember try to go for the hundred and if
you've already got that following those numbers, they'll do it.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Well, and you've got, like I said, you've got the
right look. You're charming as hell. Like we had backup
stuff in case you were boring to interview and we
haven't touched any of it, like to fit all with
on it. It's good.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
We have one too many sides.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Oh my god, don't insult our guests.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Some of them have been terrible.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
The But you're you're charming, you're attractive, you can fight,
which you know is very important in fighting, right, it's
I just I do. I think you have the star
quality that a lot of people lack. You've got the
Arnold's parallel, which is a great way to blow up,
especially locally and muscle beach in that area and to
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push l A. I love that we have to do
a photo op with you and Arnold. Yeah that was
really cool.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
He's a nice people have problems with him.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Nice dude, right right, I'll work with him before too.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, then you know he's a really good dude.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Like, yeah, it's funny as you bring him.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
You bring him up a couple of times, now, was
he ever like maybe an inspiration or something that stuck
out to you when you were growing up in this industry.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
Like quite frankly, like of course, like you know, I
was in Austria. You watch arnsports, Nigga movies. I was
a little little boy watching whatever, Terminator, Last Action Hero
and The Arms Wall. But even though he inspired me,
like my going this inspiration was Checkie Chan because I'm.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Okay like like he was.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
He was my like if I would that, that would
be any person for me, while like I would love
to meet them, the most would be Checkie Chan because
I was like, I religiously watched this movie because I
just found it so crazy that that guy was doing
all the stunts himself, which adds a different layer to
like the movie, right, You're like, damn, this guy is
actually doing this ship.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
It's not just give letting a stunt man doing this ship.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
He's doing it himself, right, So Jack the champ with
the Man for me. But Arnold definitely was like huge
subconscious inspiration.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
And then and then finally when I when I came
to uh Muscle Beach, like now I talk more like
the people here.
Speaker 8 (46:15):
But at first I was very head of arriusick of
Austrian accident.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
There was just then there was out there at the beach.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
Well yeah, no, definitely, and it was a big moment too.
And I think I had had a photoship between for
GQ Germany and like when was that like twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, So yeah, that was just when he went
full circle. And now I'm like literally like the new
like guy to go to if anybody wants anything about
muscle Beach. But like I said, the bodybuilding is like
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I'm maxed it out. That's why I kind of like
went you into the fighting where I'm like, you know what,
it's it's very nice if you look good, but you're
gotta be able to also do something with how you look, and.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
That's that that's impressive, you know, but you look.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
At yeah, the maximum of physical endurance in bodybuilding from
the top at it. When this isn't tough enough, I'm
now gonna go get.
Speaker 10 (47:13):
Punched right right, I know you're a badass or nuts.
Speaker 8 (47:24):
I just feel like, you know, every man is like
every man thinks they can fight, right.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Every man is I can fight.
Speaker 8 (47:29):
I can fight, I can fight, right, Just like if
you have to fight, it's a different story. You know,
it's like you're sitting on the sideline, you're watching some ship.
It's like, yeah, no, I can fight, But actually stepping
in there and fighting it's a different takes a different man,
you know. So for me, it's just naturally because I'm
an extreme guy, you know. So I feel like that's
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just what the next level was because I look like,
like like I can like literally rip people apart.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
And so I got to be able to do that too,
you know, not just.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Of your physicality right exactly, but be able to do
that too. But kind of like it's also like, you know,
like a myth like Hercules, Like Hercules is not so swollen.
He's literally wrestling down a lion, dislaying the hydra. He's
he's fighting, you know, who is like literally conquering and fighting.
So he's super swolled. But he also does like the
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hero the hero stuff, you know.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
And you know that'd be something. Do you have a
fight nickname already?
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Zeus?
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Okay, so it relates that already we.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Have to put him in the grid. We have a
TV show we're doing for BBC. We've got to throw
him in. I'm just saying he acts, He's told he's
I'm just saying I have a TV show we're doing
for BBC.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
We gotta.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So we have about two minutes left of the show.
Please tell steal bes fan group because they're all into MMA,
so take them all. He's got a couple of Nike
tell them where to find you so you.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
Can find me on Instagram. I catch I catcher.
Speaker 8 (49:01):
Also, if you're in Venice Beach, you come to Muscle
Beach on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
Usually I'm out.
Speaker 8 (49:07):
There, you know, come say hi, come by, come get
a lift in.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
And come get some advice.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
I'm nice to everybody, and like I said, give me
a follow on YouTube, Instagram.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
That's why I'm the most.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Active and wherever you are watching, you know, like we
just here the lead by example.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Gotta fight your own fights. You gotta live your own life.
You gotta like develop your own greatness. You know great.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
If you guys want, I know, I love that. If
you guys want, I know, you got best fan based here.
I'll drag Bear out there and these guys can do
some sparring. I'll even bring in up Jarredy in London
and you can kill them both influence.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Fortunate for me, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (49:51):
Thank you, thank you for giving me the opportunity. And
you guys have a beautiful rest of your day. Okay,
you as.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Well say, guys, here is going to be on the
September fourteenth fight. Are also going to be featuring him
in the new reality show we have coming up on
MMA Fighters. So the three that we will be focused
on actually from the social media world, going to be Ike,
Bear and uh Christopher right, yeah, except I called him
Jeremy two minutes ago. It's lunch, I know. I called
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him Jeremy London, which is an actor. Well then it's
your fight fault. Then you lose a fight. So these
are the three guys and the rest of it that
we're going to be focused on some of the guys
from the US Olympic team. So do me a favor.
Make sure you are following I Catcher, make sure you
are following. Make sure you are following.
Speaker 7 (50:38):
But myself, Yes, at Bear Fjorda and that's Christopher London.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
There you go, all right? Perfect, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
So we like to mess around a lot, but I
really enjoyed talking with you. You are incredibly charming and
I think you're going to be a star just across
the It's very easy to see.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Thank you, thank you. Okay, guys, Okay, bye guys.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Thank you for joining us on behind the scenes. Next
week you'll get me with a bunch of needles in
my face, and then after that we'll have on Christopher London,
which I'm looking forward to, but and then we can
talk about him punching Bear in the face. I'm Summer Helene.
This is my co host who waited until I'd like
to point off. He waited until I got off to
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eat the chips, and then you felt small, didn't you?
Speaker 4 (51:22):
You do you next week? Good night right.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Welcome to behind the Scenes where you're half asked entertainment
news with no bullshit with our hosts Summer Helen and
Bear Fjorda, only on Talk four Media.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Gooday, guys, welcome to behind the Scenes. I'm your host,
Summer Helene, and we are home with my co host,
Guinea Pig McGee.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
I don't dislike that. There are definitely better names. I
have been called bear Bottoms before.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
That was Ken. Shout out to that guy, fantast I
wanted to thank you. I don't think that's what he
wanted to do. But if you had said it at
the time of reporter, you would.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
Have done it.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
So I have to give a shout out. I'm like
having so much trouble with these ear things. I love
my headphones. He got me, but I like my outfits,
so I'm stuck with I still want to wear my
sparkly headbands and I want to, but my ears stick out,
So it's this weird combination of headbands and kiddie is.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
People know you have ears on the inside, You're fine.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I have dumbo ears, always have. Speaking of guinea pigs,
the little rodent that Ariana Grande is dating, that left
his wife for her, what it's like what you called? Well,
that was my segue, but we got distructed.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
His dumb SpongeBob.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh no, he's gross.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
SpongeBob, he's gross. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
The guy that couldn't get his end in chase this
girl down forever, begs this girl to get involved, finally get.
Speaker 7 (01:50):
It, gets her, impregnates her, and then leaves her for
the baby's board.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeap, because the first girl that paid him attention outside
of his wife was a chick he was stuck with.
And I cannot wait until he loses Ariana Grande to
the next guy she cheats with, because that's how she
goes from relationship to relationship. And if you are dumb
enough to get into a relationship, wait, that would be
good for you. Ariana Grande. I have someone for you
take my boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
She won't take what's offered. She takes because it's do.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Not have my boyfriend. That wouldn't be spectacular.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
We're not married.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You got to you got to marry me first.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I don't want to marry you.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
That's her also protecting me from arian what we don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
You don't want her bees. Come on, get it together.
It's good for press.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Poor man.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He better take.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
He really made a horrible decision like that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I know, Well, you got to look at it like
every bloke she's gotten with. I mean, her daddy issues
have daddy issues, and I get it, my daddy issues
have commitments.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Why does she chase men who already committed.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Because her dad, her dad left her, her dad left
her mom for another woman. Been chasing, she's been chasing. Yeah,
she's been the other woman since.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (02:57):
Well, I guess she saw how well it works for reason.
Good day, Yanna, welcome in the comments there.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yana is on now tomorrow. I got to tell you guys.
Next week, I'm going to start this show before we
get into our taste test and all the weird stuff
I'm gonna do to bear, I am going to start
this with a warning. Next week we will be at
doctor Shazia's office and she will be live doing botox
and filler and all kinds of ship to my face.
So if you are squeamish with blood, next week's show
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is not for you. Bear is going to be leading it. Well,
I get my face injected with a bunch of crap.
I'd like to remind everyone every time we use bad language,
we give money the Boys and Girls Club of America,
the Humane Society of America, and Free Mma. We swear because.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
We're got fucking three. Crap isn't a bad word.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yes it is. My grandma watches this show.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You will tell distract how Grandma?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
That's not a bad word.
Speaker 7 (03:51):
It's a bad word, ma'am. I got distracted. I was
gonna say yes, So next week you're going to be there.
I'm still going to be here in this in our
space at the home. But I was going to se
if you are squeamish around blood, but you want to
try some.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was actually gonna have you come with me.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
What's that thing called like adverse therapy where they kind
of put you exposure exposure therapy? You guys, can you.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Don't do it? It's bloody. It's you'll see needles like,
don't do it. It's needles going into the face.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
Yeah, you could pretend like the needle's just getting pushed
back into the If.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You like gross, if you like gross to you don't know.
If you don't, don't. But we are going to be
on with doctor Shazia. She's one of the stars of
our upcoming or one of our up and coming shows.
She is the beauty queen. You will get to know her.
She essentially, if you're FuG moo, she can fix it, man.
And if you're not FuG moo, she can make sure
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nothing SAgs.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
There's no better advertising than that you ugly, I will
fix you.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That's pretty much it. She can fix ugly and that
makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
But is it look subjective? I mean you might be
ugly to somebody, right.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
No, I'm freaking gorgeous.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I was way.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I was a victorious secret model. I am a objectively.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Pretty Yes, I will agree with that.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I'm not sexy, I'm not stunning. I am objectively pretty.
I have that kind of girl next door pretty.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
And I know I want to defend you against you.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
You are to you. That's what they mean by subjective.
There is objective and subjective to you. I am sexy
to him. He finds me sexually, and that opinion is subjective. Okay,
pretty fits in certain boxes. Yes, I am objectively pretty.
I fit in the parameters are pretty. You are an
objectively handsome man. People may not like the Roman noses,
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or they may not like beards, but you are statistically
and technically attractive.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
You know this, I talking about attractive.
Speaker 7 (05:44):
I had a terrible conversation this morning with the with
the ups lady when I went to drop off some
packages to return.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
No, no, very much.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I don't mean to assume people's sexual orientation, but this
lady is definitely not into men.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
So you get long with lesbians. No, she's very usually
you do.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Well, It's I'm not what I'm saying fair enough.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
I'm just saying she started off super angry and aggressive
over a package I had because it was still in
the box.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
And uh, that's besides, that's not even the point that
I'm trying to bring up.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
And I was gonna say that typically when people are attractive,
they get a little more leeway for the behavior. This
was an overly attractive person. I might have been a
little bit more like Cordone trying to work it out.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
And that's all. But because she was like mean, beauty bias.
Speaker 7 (06:28):
Very unattractive, it was like I was immediately just like,
all right, flexing your tits for it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And that's what you would have had to do if
you want her to get on with you, if she's
into women, you had to walk in with some tatars.
Do you have tatas?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Why would I care? I didn't just try to give
her a package.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I'm just saying, if you want beauty bias to work
on women that like women, you have to have boots,
all right, fair enough, the same as gay guys. I
do not get a pass with gay guys. Yeah, it's
like the only club I have to buy drinks in
my whole life of being gay. I mean women will
buy them for me, but I mean memoir.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm just saying beautivis doesn't work that way.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
We can segue now because I talked about ugly back
into a Ariana grande.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
See that's how it's going to be living together. I
want to get my face injected. We will take Bear's
manager to get her face injected.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
What did you call her? Thing her boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
I thought you called them a commoner. No, like you're
English and.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
He sucks as here. You're a fair partner.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
And one of his most recent interviews, the fair partner,
he said, I cannot wait to get divorced. He's like
so excited to marry Ariana, which it baffles me.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
A couple of months and wait for her to.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Leave him for the next guy. I just want him
to feel the pain that he caused his ex. But
you know this Ski's bag is going to go running
back to the baby mama trying to put.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It back together. The problem is he's done.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Like But the thing is, you know, his carrying some
is like so objectively, Ariana Grande, you will welcome to
sue me for this. Ariana grand is known to have
STDs that is commonly known in Hollywood and Chicky, if
you want to assume me, you are welcome to, because
then you've got a proven court. You don't so we
can do this. But she does. She has she has
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fun transmitted diseases. She is a carrier and she infects people.
So he oh, no, I'm being very clear.
Speaker 7 (08:22):
No, it's not that I don't care who's right or wrong.
In this situation, she's got so much money and lawyers
that we're never gonna win.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't care. I don't want to be in debt
for the next.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I know, I know, I know. I'm not calling her
a tramp. I'm calling her a disease bag.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Okay, some people can be born with genetic diseases. You
have accumulated.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
She she got it from a few different things. Ah, okay,
hey we're talking, Derek Jeter level herpie tree.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Can we try my chips?
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We will. I'm just let me finish. I'm cool with that.
I keep trying to get the stretch of sciential Judas was.
I'm fine with Arina grand as suingers. The reality is,
if you hear me stop talking about Ariana Grande, it's
because we're going to court. The reality is she carries
sexually transmitted diseases. So if this guy goes back to
his partner after that, my heart breaks to his partner.
(09:17):
I hope she doesn't take him back, because when Ariana
Grandi lives to infect the next man.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
This was such a public and I don't want to
use the words horrific, Zonna, how it was probably horrific
for herself public and horrific event for her that I
doubt she will take him back Pride alone.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He didn't want to date him in the first place.
You know, this little dweeb chased her down through drama
school because she was the best chick he was ever
going to get. And the minute he got a change
with skank pants McGee, that's what she did. And the
little skeazy dude, the SpongeBob.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
That's funny. They only did it together because they were
on the set.
Speaker 7 (09:58):
Yeah, that's it. He was probably just the most famous
person on set or naming the boss.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
It's the one. So they spent time together and it's funny,
and it was during the pandemic. The reality is I
dated a lot of guys that I was on set
with when I acted, because that's who you're on set with.
I didn't sleep with them. Arian It's possible not to
just f YI. Shout out to Ariana. You don't have
to fuck everybody. The point is you can if you
(10:24):
want those shout out to. You know, alexis my ghost
when we talk about no, no, no, fine, I'm just
giving a shout out to what is it king for dummies?
And you can and you can fuck everyone, or you
can fuck nobody. I don't care. But once you start
touching other girls stuff, you suck as a human like
(10:47):
I'm sorry, especially I have it, so it's just nah.
And then you infected it so she can't even take
it back. You made it gross. It is like it's
like she chewed up the meat and spat it back
on the plate.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Nobody wants it, Like when she licked the glass.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, yeah, no, that was gross. She looked the doughnuts.
The girl's always been trash.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, speaking of trash trash?
Speaker 3 (11:12):
So what he said, speaking of gross trash to put
in your mouth?
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Can I start with the bad one?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
We're gonna start with a few different ones, the gross
to the gross trash to put in your mouth. We
have seaweed chips, we have chili chips, we have squid chips,
and we have chicken chips. I love chicken chips. F Yi,
tho min.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I don't know if you guys ever knew this. But
lace also I didn't know this. I didn't know lace
was an international la laze I call them lace.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Lace is the white thing that I wear that see through.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yeah, but this is l a y s l A
y Z.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yes, lazy seaweed chip. Tell me how they take the hatch.
So anyway, as we talk about what a slut ariana
Grande is, we will try chips. Now. I'm all for,
by the way, slut shaming, and the only reason I
am for it is I think humanity has lost its shame.
And hear me out on this. How's the chip?
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:08):
This is a solid four out of ten. I think
if you've liked seaweed, it's for you. If you don't
like seaweeds, it's a waste of your money.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Okay, so four out of ten World Market lays chips.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You don't want to throw it up, it's just un unpleasant.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Next we are going to try squid.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
We don't want to break it in hats.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Put it now. Anyway, The point is.
Speaker 8 (12:31):
When you.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Hm, yeah, finish your chip. This is disgusting.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
What does it taste like?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
I have had calamari?
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Does it taste like calamari?
Speaker 6 (12:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
No, it tastes like a bastardized version of what squid
might be.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
So this was made by somebody who doesn't know what
squid tastes like.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I feel like a lot of them are made by
people who don't know what the item tastes like.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
They just have a synthetic formula for it. Like they
did not kill a Cavendish.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's like the Cavendish banana.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
They did not sprinkle squid juice on these chips. You
understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You want juice on the chips.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
No, I don't want to juice on the chips.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I can go in the freezer and I can get
the full the squid and I can put squid juice
on your chips.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Why do I have squid in the freezer?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
My mom left squid in the freezer. I remember she left.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I didn't cook that. No, so he'said frozen whole squid.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, I can make it tonight.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
No, you don't.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
No, I don't want anything to do with squid after
those chips. I sound like I'm bitching. It's because I am.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I don't. I'm done anyway.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Speaking of gross things, you can find that a fishy
Ariana Grande.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
The whole stream is just hating on this chick. I'm
not a posed.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
No, I don't want to pay and three point because
we call their fishy.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Okay, you know what we've only gotten suit a few times.
We're fine. The reality is ain't the chip. The reality
is he is the major problem girls like I have
a problem with, Like if my friend slept with my guy,
I would have a serious problem with my friend. It's
not the guy. Are you okay?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
That's not even hot. That's disgusting. What is that called?
That's chili chili?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
What chili play?
Speaker 6 (14:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I don't read.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Just chili.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's Japanese sweet spicy.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
If you guys like chips or if you like chili's,
don't buy this. Not ringing endorsement, ringing endorsement, my ass.
I'll tell you what I.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Am actively saying.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Do not get I'm not going to make him eat
the chicken ones.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's the one I was holding.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
No, it's fine, I'm not going to make him eat
those ones.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I don't know what that sound was, just your damn chip.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
But the reality is you got a little wise.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
These are the same size as the.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Other one way, I'm not taking it. I just want
to show them. I wanted the size of the one
he got when he ate brawn versus the half or
third of the chicken.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It is what We're only trying them out it's not
like it's a huge impact like chicken chips.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
The reality is, though, when you do things like that
to people in media, it comes back to you.
Speaker 6 (15:11):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Okay, that's the best, but still not great.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Really, you didn't like the chicken chip.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
No, I've had your Australian chips.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I thought's what I thought it would be.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
They are so much better than this. It's a little
bit spicier, but this is Australia. This is a Japanese Actually.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We've got all Japanese and that's really cool.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
But I guess it's just not flavors they're accustomed to.
I don't know what you would call them.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
That's a chicken chip. I think you've just had too
many flavors in your mouth. We should have spaced it
out again.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
We're testing the viral chips, I know.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So test it again in five minutes, and I think
it will taste more like the chipper tastes likees.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I'll just be consuming chips at that point five. You
have a fight.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So Bear is to Christopher from Milf Milk Mana and
we are going to invite out Hooper by the way,
from YouTube. So he's got him in September, and then
of course the gent we have on today Ike. We
are setting up at that fight as well.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, I'm actually excited.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But I heard he's not fighting you. He'll sit on you.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I wouldn't win. There's not a chance.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh no, no, Jared Vendera turned around. He's like, I'll
do it. I'm like, no, no, no, he's an amateur
and we want him alive. Adding we are not putting
Jared Vendera with Ike, but he's also sick, like I
eventually will very distinct advantages. I eventually, eventually I would
have Ike fight Jared Vendera, but not now. I'd like
to point out, Yeah, we've got icon. Jared Vendera just
(16:36):
left U see, I'm not putting him with Ike for
his second amateur about.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Like, no, We'll give him a couple, give him a few.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Then.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Third fight. I'm sending him to New York at the
end of the year. Get it together, don't kill my fighters.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I'm sorry, you just want.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
To be the only fighter I'd like to welcome to
the show.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I come on, we go, Hello, How are you?
Speaker 6 (17:03):
I'm good?
Speaker 4 (17:03):
How you guys don't good?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
God, he's gorgeous. He's going to get way better ratings than.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
You just right out the gate. But you know, I'm
not going to argue in that. Man, you look insanely yo.
Uh you know what, this is not going to be
your first fight, right, this is, uh the second.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
One, the second one.
Speaker 4 (17:23):
Yeah, how did you feel in your first cage fight?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
Well? Very interesting.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I mean I'm I'm a show man, so I'm always
used to the crowd and the attention. But of course
fighting is a different story. I don't worry your life,
you know, like it's uh something about it. When you're
fighting for your life and you fight before you you know,
surviving that you get a little bit more, You feel
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more of the moment, you know. So I'm and Joe.
I did, of course a little bit nervous leading up
to the fight, but uh after it was done, and
I was very happy I did it. You know, I
got that experience and I'm excited to get back in there,
you know, get back in the ring.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
That's exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Yeah, we spoke into in the first place.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
We spoke over Spasta and because he's so tall and
so big, we have every match Baker in California and
Camo looking for a fight for you and his mate
Jared vendera Johmpson. He's like, he's a heavyweight, I'll do it.
I'm like, absolutely fucking not that. We're just started to
kill chill later later. So you everyone thinks it's going
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to be a star. I know we are putting you
in a television show upcoming that's following up and coming fighters.
I know, bears managers trying to take you. See, you
know you're not the favorite anymore.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
Listen, I don't need Jana wants him good help young
fighters progress.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
That's what I can conturn with.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, you know, it's a good manager to your manager.
So for you stepping into fighting, is it different than
doing building that sort of thing?
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah, it was much different.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
See, I don't know if you can see it from here,
Like I'm literally right at muscle Beach in Venice.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Nice, see all the bodybuildings. Nice man, you're literally at
muscle bee.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I want to go to his house, Like, that's fantastic.
He's the best few in town.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Right looking at.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Muscle Beach, you're sitting on hair eating chips. This is
why he looks like, Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, fighting is a lot more about fighting is more
I would say a little bit more multi dimensional than
body building. So bodybuilding is more about like mastering these
movements that are isolating the muscles. But when you're fighting,
you're kind of trying to like be very functional and
have everything work together. Also, fighting strength is not everything
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like like you know, it's a combination of different things.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
You gotta be flexible, you gotta be.
Speaker 8 (20:01):
Smart, you gotta you gotta have strategy, you gotta be fast,
and you gotta be strong, you know. So it's it's
all about how you play your parts. So also fighting
you need a partner, So it's kind of like dancing, right,
bodybuilding you can do on your own.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
So I would say one of them is conditioning.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
Bodybuilding is pretty much conditioning strength and conditioning, and it's it's, uh,
you you yourself gotta tailor your workouts towards whatever fighting
style you have or how you want to fight. So
it's it's different that like bodybuilding is very flexed up,
you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Like I'm compared it to dancing. I'm like, if I'm
dancing and I'm bleeding, something is going terribly wrong.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
Well, you know, I mean, if that's what it is,
you kind of go back and forth. It's it's not.
Speaker 8 (20:59):
It's not it's not a romantic bans you know, it's
pure business.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It sounds awful, but you made it sound you made
what sounds like my nightmare and so many people's nightmare
would be getting in that case, you made it sound wonderful.
Pretty much money I spent.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
No.
Speaker 7 (21:19):
I love what you're talking about kind of curtailing that training,
that what you're doing leading up to your fight and
for your for competitions.
Speaker 4 (21:27):
What did you did?
Speaker 7 (21:28):
You have a specific thing that you kind of cater
to when you're getting ready for your fight.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
We want to do that. But also while you have
you you have to put on fifty pounds for the
fight with him, I know, ask him he could help you.
Speaker 9 (21:39):
You were saying, well, what I noticed is like, you know,
I'm a bodybul so I'm kind of like the gallon
figure for muscle beach.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
So I have to keep bodybuilding to keep my body
in shape, otherwise I lose my physique.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:55):
But leading up to a fight, I will definitely just
like cut down on the iron. I would still do calistatics,
but I almost will pump no iron because what happens
with the iron is it kind of makes you a
little bit stiff, you know, so when you're like when
you when you want to swing in punches, you want
to move, you don't want to have that pump, you know,
for example, the chest pump right chest right now, my
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chest that's.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
Not really pumped a block.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
I can like protect myself well, right, but if I'm
all pumped up, I have a hard time get in
my hands together and and and kind of like being
fluid in those in those situations. So I'm not saying
not too for a fighter that they can pump no iron,
but I'm saying not to do to the point where
you all stiff and pumped, which we do sometimes of bodybuilding,
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you know what I mean, which is part of it.
So leading up to the fight was interesting for me
to learn to learn too because it was my first fight.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I still pumped a little bit of.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Iron like like like probably like a day or so
before the fight, and I felt I shouldn't have deb
you know, I put like in the fight and made
a little bit stiff, you know. So like definitely a
week or two leading them to the fight, I would
not pump on the iron. I would still do pushups, calistatics,
pull ups, muscle ups, dips, bodyweight exercises, but not no
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heavy weight. You know.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, he works out way more than you.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Do, so much more. It's very physically speaking, like and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Because he works he does about eight hours a day
of fighting, but he does none of the other stuff,
right right, It's interesting to see the different approaches.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Well, it's very interesting too with the fighting style because
it helps you a lot in the wrestling. You know,
it's not necessarily the best like for you for your
punching speed, but first of all, you're gonna have punching
power even though you're speeding night just strong. Like if
you bench ben, you're gonna have a punch of power.
And in the wrestling you're gonna have very big advantages.
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My style in fighting is wrestling, and you stand up striking,
you know, Like I have the background the taypon those
with that pretty good and.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
A little bit a little bit of boxing.
Speaker 8 (24:04):
So but when I get into the wrestling, it's really
when I'm like most people, I can out wrestle them,
even if I'm technically not.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
That advanced because I'm wearing strong yeah, yes, yes.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Six nine of course you can out wrestle everyone. You're
a tree.
Speaker 8 (24:23):
Yeah, but for the rest that's not necessarily the best
because you know, people get below you to go for
your leg, and you know, like even though six foot nine,
you gotta know how to like use six foot nine,
like fighting height is good, but it's not necessarily the
best thing.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You know.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
I would say in boxing for sure, because you got
all your reach, But in the cage, not necessarily because
I have to for example, below like I'm not. I
can't be high, I pine when I'm fighting, otherwise it's
gonna get taken down. So I have to be like
in the middle, I gotta be low. So even though
I'm six foot nine, I can't really like use all
my height, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know, So we're looking for an opponent for you
right now. We're trying to make sure we don't want
someone with too much experience. Shout out again to Jared Vendera.
We'll talk to you later, but because you don't have that,
and so we're going through. Do you know how hard
it is, and I'm sure you do to find someone
that wants to fight a six foot nine body.
Speaker 8 (25:23):
Built up, well, that is that is that's the interesting
part because the first fight that I had like about
a month ago, Like we were looking for somebody for
about I think a year and the guy I was fighting,
he had the same problem because he was an amateur.
But he's really big guy too. He was six seven,
huge guy from France, Sanago, and nobody wanted to fight him.
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And I was like, you ain't an one to fight.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
I went to fight.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Let's just do that.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, And it was good. I like one thing about it.
I wish I had a little bit more time to
prepare because I had like a two week note. At
the same time, I was booked for a movie that curiously,
like you know, I'm an actor too, I was booked
for a movie that there's an MMA movie throwing Hands.
So in my preparation, I was still on sets working
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five am.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
I was at seven am in the morning. So like.
Speaker 8 (26:17):
On my next fight, like I definitely would like take
more time to prepare, you know what I mean, and
get in there a little bit more ready.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
But I did.
Speaker 8 (26:26):
I did with what I did, what I had did
with a cook of my head almost knocked the guy out.
He won with wonder the points because he kept attacking
my leg again.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
He played points. So if you watch the fight the
guy did. I've seen Bell is the same way. Actually,
especially when he first started. He's trying to knock the
guy out and the other guy is just making sure
he doesn't get knocked out and doing the takedowns counting points. Yeah,
you was like, you did. You put on a good show.
You really did, and that's what matters. The big thing
was though, it was the takedowns. Takedowns were so much
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more than ahead. So I watched the thing. That's all
I saw.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
If I had to fight you, I don't need to
take it down.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
You know, I.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Wouldn't stand up for three fucking seconds. You would never
see my.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Eyeballs bears on his leg and won't let go. So
in your case, I do have to say Yana's actually
on his She's like, we can find someone internationally. You
know that you are intimidating when we're making calls and
I'm like, hey, you know this is an internationally televised fight.
It's an AMMI fight. You want to come, you know,
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fight this guy. Everyone I'm talking to like, yeah, I'm like,
he's a six foot nine bodybuilder off.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
That turnarounds real fast.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
It's just immediate. So we finally cultures.
Speaker 8 (27:45):
That's usually the that's usually the problem, especially once they
see the stuff that are doing on the bars, because
I'm like more than a body, but I'm like the heavier,
the heaviest heavyweight mucklups handstands and like crazy stuff nobody
can do.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Here's the question. So he has a fight with Sence.
They said, at the end of the year, we will
be putting you on that fight POWD. That's gonna be
in New York or Vegas, but I think they're moving
it to New York through access. He needs to put
on like fifty pounds and not be giggly because when
he did last time put on weight and started putting
on weight for Worlds, he got jiggly, right, not good
for the other.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Stuff we're doing. I don't have a ton of I.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Keep telling eating KFC is not session. That is not
he eats KFC to put on weight.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Right, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (28:31):
That's the theory of clean balking and thirty balking, right,
I don't believe in clean balking. Like I think you
should just like probably like get a little bit more
of a weight regiment and then just like eat clean
protein and just you know trouble really get your weight up,
you know what I mean, Like you said, you don't.
You don't do no pumping iron at all, So you
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can easily fifty pounds.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Is a lot, but you can.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Probably take definitely put on like twenty hounds, Like there's
no problem. You just stop pumping that Eyron.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
You know he can.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Put on twenty pounds with KFC. We've done that. I've
seen it.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Yeah, I don't know think you've seen it for a fight,
but you have seen me.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, it's hit between fights that you do it fight CLA.
So you because you're doing bodybuilding, you're not like the
other fighters. You're not like BA, You're not like Patty.
You're not blowing up between fights. And I'm teasing him.
But a lot of these guys they really normally between
fights and then they kind of shrink down, still working out,
but they aren't working out the same way you are.
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So you find being so much more physically fit than
these guys let you out last them even in training.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Yeah, I mean, you know, fitness is where we are.
How can I put it?
Speaker 8 (29:52):
It ranges in different ways, you know, like you can
be very strong as a bodybuilder, but as a fighter,
do need a lot of cardio, you know.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
So, like like.
Speaker 8 (30:05):
If you if you just work on your strength and
you don't have to endurance to get go the whole way,
that's a it's a definite where like it's a deficity
you know, because like somebody can just play the strategy.
I'm a run from this guy for two rounds. By
the first round, he's going to be gassed. And once
you gassed, you don't your strength. You can't access it
no more, you know. So like that's very important that
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you don't just focus on the basic static lifting, but
incorporate a lot of running and like flu like movement
instead of also get you fluid or functional. So, like
I like to compare it to like a ritual. You've
gotta have the right ritual to be ready for the ring,
you know, if you don't, if you don't, if you
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don't train the right way, you're just not gonna be
ready for that fight, you know. So bodybuilding fitnesses itself,
it's like a toolbox and then you're gonna put You're
gonna pull the tools to pick the tools that you
want that you like. And everybody's different, everybody has a
different You know physique and fighting style like you know,
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like I said, I like to wrestle, I like to punch,
I like to pick, and I still gotta, you know,
like work on learn a lot of jug you know,
I know about it, but I'm not you.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Know, I wouldn't really want to go to the ground
with jiu jitsu. Guys, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We're on his side. He's excellent. So if you could
fight anyone in the UFC. Let's say you go to
the UFC, you get any fight you want. Who do
you want to fight? And you can't say Connor because
you'd sit on him.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
I mean, we want to fight.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (31:47):
Like like like I thought Francis Ganado, people would have
been interested to fight, like I was barred with him,
Like I went in there, helped him prepare for.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Who wasn't Ghani? Who's fighting God? Right? So yeah, he
would be interesting to fight.
Speaker 8 (32:04):
And the giant ran on of course, and uh, well
you got.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
To trained for his fight?
Speaker 6 (32:15):
What was that? It was crazy?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
Like there is no other response.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
I'm located in LA but my coach knows his coach.
So I drove down to Las Vegas and I went
into his gym Uh. It was like extreme couture mma
and it was the craziest that my magam walked into
like a bunch of spartans training Hardest Park and you know,
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Francis was already training in there.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
I got to meet him.
Speaker 8 (32:46):
I stepped in there like that was Actually I had
like a lot of less experience than I have now
because by now I was spark with Wolff was his
training partner. And I just went in there like with
the courage because you know, like like you know, like as.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
As a warrior, you got to face the challenge, right
and uh it was good.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
You know that's not a challenge is the machine.
Speaker 8 (33:11):
I know, but you aren't gonna stand I'm six foot
mine and very strong too, so yeah, it's planted itself.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Out, you know, like I don't know, I just pokem
in the iron run like that's.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
So.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
How was that fighting with someone Nagano, especially for his size,
is incredibly fast for somebody that big, I.
Speaker 8 (33:33):
Mean right right, well, it was it was like a
learning experience the most, you know, like I was able
to hang with him.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
I was in there like you know, go in the
full round with them, and like.
Speaker 8 (33:49):
It put it put everything in perspective, you know, like
it gave me the perspective what the storm was in
the world is like, and that I actually have a
chance in the game because I'm in there with a
lot of less experience to the guy, but I'm hanging.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
With them, you know.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
And that's kind of what what it did for me.
While I was like, Wow, what a privilege. First of
all that I got to squirrels the guy, you know,
and second of all that I that I do have
what have what it takes to be a fighter, which
is like because as a as a bodybuilder, I'm very functional,
you know, because I was raised as a martial artist first.
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So most bodybuilders don't train as functional as I do,
you know, but I believe that, like I'm also natural,
like most people like to pump themselves full of drugs,
but I believe the nicest zeke you get is through
really functional training, you know, like a small waist, like
like good like definition like you know, like like like
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you got to have a good ratio between your weight
and what your weight can do.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
You know.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
That's why you don't want to have barely no fat
because every gram when you got to be like helping
you move, you know.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
So, yeah, what do you think of.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Those guys that do the injections that make the muscle.
What's that stuff.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Synthol?
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Yeah, that they're doing there, complete the complete clowns.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Like you know, suing to be able to compete in bodybuilding.
They are already competing in that altered thing that they're
doing now where people can they're doing the story game.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
You're not talking about Syntho, you know.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I'm talking about Synthol. The guys with Synthol are now
suing to be able to compete in mister Universe. They're
saying they shouldn't because they've done that. Yep, it's in
court right now.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
That's ridiculous, man, it's not it's no muscles, man.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
It's all it's all liquid. They can compete, they just
lose immediately. I don't know why they have to.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
They're not allowed to compete right now and they're asking, you.
Speaker 8 (35:47):
Know, but but let me tell you, like, like I
think some of the pro bodybuilders, some of them too,
they do use a little bit simple where you can't tell,
you know, but they're not going in there like those
crazy guys were just like you know, like just central
out like just like full of.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Oil and shit. It's like like.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Looking when you do that, it looks like you ever
seen those really fat old ladies. It was a bunch
of white word jiggles and the hangs down. Yeah they
do that, but like the fluffy version.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Yeah yeah, man, Yeah, it's funny. We touched on it
for a minute. But I want to go back to
you said you were also an actor and you were
preparing for a movie at the time. What got you
into the entertainment world, like all together?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Seriously?
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Well, man, I have a very epic story.
Speaker 8 (36:36):
So usually I am from Austria, Austrian, okay, Arnold, and
I came in Austria. It was a model so I
was doing modeling. I was mister Vienna. So twenty fourteen,
like I came with the ambition to be in a
Hollywood star inn, like in you know, California, La. So
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I came to La and you know, my first make
my first steps in Venice, I stepped on a on
a on a stage. Right, hear muscle beach. I became
Miss the muscle Beach. Then I kind of like fell
into the fitness industry, which at that point was booming.
Twenty fourteen fifteen, there was a lot of like different brands,
and you know, like I was like a promotional fitness model,
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and slowly I started.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
To pursue the acting, so going to acting school.
Speaker 8 (37:24):
And just kind of trying to live that dream of
being a movie star. And uh, like a little didn't know,
like it's a very big dream. It's a little bit
harder than what I thought it was, you know, because
it's like Hollywood is very competitive. Acting is very competitive,
so like people trying to keep you out the game.
And it's like, uh, it's also art. You don't know
(37:48):
how to do it, you know, like just like fighting
is an art, like acting is literally you have to
just learn it, like, you know, not you can't just read,
you know, give somebody who's never acted the line and
telling how acted. It's like not gonna like be the
same delivery, you know. So yeah, I came with that
dream and I didn't give up a living that dream.
(38:10):
And I kind of sort of helped my fitness and
muscle beach and this whole uh lifestyle that we that
we got over here in California helped me to to
make it out here for ten years. And then literally
after ten years, I had my big break because it's
pretty it's a big movie that was like I think
(38:30):
for BT going hand, it's an mm A movie, and ironically, like,
as I'm filming an.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Mm A movie, in the movie, I'm like the owner
of the league, sort of like the Day of White. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
So so so I'm filming the movie and I'm watching
the fight scenes. We had that rampant Jackson in there too. Yeah,
and I'm watching the fights, like you know, and then
literally a week later, I'm fighting in there and it's like, like, you.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Know, everything came full circle and yeah. So I think.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
It's interesting that you wanted to be an actor, went
to m m A and even like I'm offering you
a place in a reality show and I'm off you know,
it's it's kind of MMA seems to be what's pushing
you in the acting world. It's yes, Chase the anting,
and then you start doing an MMA and everyone's like.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Thank you, yes, yes, one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (39:29):
It was very unexpected, but it's very true what you
just said. And I think it's because both of it
is entertainment. You know, like as a fighter, you've got
to put on the show in there. You can't make
that shit boring got to be like you know what
I mean, like for the people to have someone to see.
So it's both in the same way, you know, and
also like I think, you know when the future and
(39:51):
like you got to like just use.
Speaker 6 (39:53):
The tools that we have to go off as a person.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
You know, like nowadays is everything is hyper speed and it's.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
You gotta be a little bit better every day.
Speaker 8 (40:02):
And that's why all if the fighting, because you got
to step up to the challenge, you know, Like that's
the one thing that was amazing when I had my fight.
It's like I've really trained hard. I want to you know,
into the like real fight preparation that I had, and
I used it to push myself to the next level.
And then finally you get in. You go in there,
you step up to the challenge. It's no other way
(40:24):
to grow as a man. You gotta face that, and
it's like it's a very tough path to tread on,
but it's also very rewarding because you.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Just get better, you know, you evolve more.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
And I feel like naturally because like the bodybuilding I've mastered.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
I've been bodybuilding for seventeen years.
Speaker 8 (40:43):
And I know how to I know how to build
a body like and I can I can tell anybody
how to do it, you know, and and through the
bodybuilding with it really teaches.
Speaker 6 (40:53):
You is that natoman you know, like what does what
muscle do?
Speaker 8 (40:56):
Like if I want to trade the chest, I gotta push,
I want to tricips, I got to do this. Then
you know, you figure out the different anatomy like of
how the body is built.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
And that understanding is going to help you in the
fighting too, you know.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
So I feel like, uh, because I'm new to the
fight game, you know, like even though I grew up
do much large, like I got back into the much
large training about like two or three years ago.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
I feel like in the next one or two years, like.
Speaker 8 (41:26):
I'm going to really like start like like.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Blossoming in that and that as well, And that's just
the natural.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, Well, there aren't a lot of guys your size
in the sport. There really aren't. So if you're going
to go into martial arts, and if you're going to
go into MMA, I think you made a really smart choice.
Just from a marketing perspective, that's my specialty. You've chosen
the smallest pool and in this sport. But that the
(41:59):
heavyweights in MMA aren't like they were in boxing, and
I think the star power to make them that. It's
the middleweights. There's the smaller guys that we're doing this
in MMA, and everyone wants to see the heavyweights. You
want to see those big fights. It's the same reason
people are amateurs. They learn to fight before they can block,
so the fight's always bloody. It with amateurs. With the
big guys, they like it because of the power. And
(42:20):
so if we get a couple of stars like you,
like Nagano, I think that will take MMA heavyweights to
that next level which they haven't been.
Speaker 6 (42:28):
M H.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Agree completely.
Speaker 7 (42:31):
It's funny because I think, no matter how good your
skill level right now is, whatever it is, but you
have a much higher chance of getting into a high
promotion league like UFC, PFL wherever than someone else who
may be better than you but at a lower weight yep,
because just just physically speaking, you are so much easier
to market and sell.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
Well, he's also hot and got a following, and.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
Now we have those exactly to it, right Like you
are a.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Promoter's dream, but you're little, just like another one of
the Franceston God are cereal guns? You just you're one
of those very unique guys that we don't see a
lot of period and so it makes it so easier
for the company to want to put you in and
work with you.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
So I think you're saying a year or two years,
I think.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
I think you blow up with a Yeah.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
If you hit the rest fighting the way you are
only only a month or two months in between one
hundred percent, you're going to catch on really fast.
Speaker 6 (43:22):
Yeah, got.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
You will really blow up. And I now I take
my I'm not an MMA fighter, so this is coming
straight from marketing, but I would take my time going
pro because the longer you take and the more they
want you, the more you can sign that contract for
when you flip right, Yeah, I'm just saying I would.
I would drag that out a little bit. Do the
TV shows do like a few different things that way.
(43:45):
Because the biggest signing bonus UFC ever gave was sixty
thousand dollars for the first fight for Conor McGregor. Right,
he wants to eat it. You should try to like
just beat that first fight signing bonus because it makes
you remember try to go for the hundred and if
you've already got that following those numbers, they'll do it.
Speaker 6 (44:01):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Well, and you've got, like I said, you've got the
right look. You're charming as hell. Like we had backup
stuff in case you were boring to interview and we
haven't touched any of it, like to fit all with
on it. It's good.
Speaker 4 (44:13):
We have one too many sides.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Oh my god, don't insult our guests.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Some of them have been terrible.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
The But you're you're charming, you're attractive, you can fight,
which you know is very important in fighting, right, it's
I just I do. I think you have the star
quality that a lot of people lack. You've got the
Arnold's parallel, which is a great way to blow up,
especially locally and muscle beach in that area and to
(44:42):
push l A. I love that we have to do
a photo op with you and Arnold. Yeah that was
really cool.
Speaker 6 (44:49):
I love him.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
He's a nice people have problems with him.
Speaker 4 (44:51):
I love it.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Nice dude, right right, I'll work with him before too.
Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah, yeah, then you know he's a really good dude.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Like, yeah, it's funny as you bring him.
Speaker 7 (45:02):
You bring him up a couple of times, now, was
he ever like maybe an inspiration or something that stuck
out to you when you were growing up in this industry.
Speaker 8 (45:09):
Like quite frankly, like of course, like you know, I
was in Austria. You watch arnsports, Nigga movies. I was
a little little boy watching whatever, Terminator, Last Action Hero
and The Arms Wall. But even though he inspired me,
like my going this inspiration was Checkie Chan because I'm.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Okay like like he was.
Speaker 8 (45:34):
He was my like if I would that, that would
be any person for me, while like I would love
to meet them, the most would be Checkie Chan because
I was like, I religiously watched this movie because I
just found it so crazy that that guy was doing
all the stunts himself, which adds a different layer to
like the movie, right, You're like, damn, this guy is
actually doing this ship.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
It's not just give letting a stunt man doing this ship.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
He's doing it himself, right, So Jack the champ with
the Man for me. But Arnold definitely was like huge
subconscious inspiration.
Speaker 6 (46:07):
And then and then finally when I when I came
to uh Muscle Beach, like now I talk more like
the people here.
Speaker 8 (46:15):
But at first I was very head of arriusick of
Austrian accident.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
There was just then there was out there at the beach.
Speaker 8 (46:25):
Well yeah, no, definitely, and it was a big moment too.
And I think I had had a photoship between for
GQ Germany and like when was that like twenty eighteen,
twenty nineteen, So yeah, that was just when he went
full circle. And now I'm like literally like the new
like guy to go to if anybody wants anything about
muscle Beach. But like I said, the bodybuilding is like
(46:49):
I'm maxed it out. That's why I kind of like
went you into the fighting where I'm like, you know what,
it's it's very nice if you look good, but you're
gotta be able to also do something with how you look, and.
Speaker 6 (47:00):
That's that that's impressive, you know, but you look.
Speaker 3 (47:03):
At yeah, the maximum of physical endurance in bodybuilding from
the top at it. When this isn't tough enough, I'm
now gonna go get.
Speaker 10 (47:13):
Punched right right, I know you're a badass or nuts.
Speaker 8 (47:24):
I just feel like, you know, every man is like
every man thinks they can fight, right.
Speaker 6 (47:28):
Every man is I can fight.
Speaker 8 (47:29):
I can fight, I can fight, right, Just like if
you have to fight, it's a different story. You know,
it's like you're sitting on the sideline, you're watching some ship.
It's like, yeah, no, I can fight, But actually stepping
in there and fighting it's a different takes a different man,
you know. So for me, it's just naturally because I'm
an extreme guy, you know. So I feel like that's
(47:53):
just what the next level was because I look like,
like like I can like literally rip people apart.
Speaker 6 (48:00):
And so I got to be able to do that too,
you know, not just.
Speaker 8 (48:06):
Of your physicality right exactly, but be able to do
that too. But kind of like it's also like, you know,
like a myth like Hercules, Like Hercules is not so swollen.
He's literally wrestling down a lion, dislaying the hydra. He's
he's fighting, you know, who is like literally conquering and fighting.
So he's super swolled. But he also does like the
(48:26):
hero the hero stuff, you know.
Speaker 4 (48:28):
And you know that'd be something. Do you have a
fight nickname already?
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Zeus?
Speaker 4 (48:33):
Okay, so it relates that already we.
Speaker 3 (48:37):
Have to put him in the grid. We have a
TV show we're doing for BBC. We've got to throw
him in. I'm just saying he acts, He's told he's
I'm just saying I have a TV show we're doing
for BBC.
Speaker 6 (48:46):
We gotta.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
So we have about two minutes left of the show.
Please tell steal bes fan group because they're all into MMA,
so take them all. He's got a couple of Nike
tell them where to find you so you.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
Can find me on Instagram. I catch I catcher.
Speaker 8 (49:01):
Also, if you're in Venice Beach, you come to Muscle
Beach on the weekend.
Speaker 6 (49:06):
Usually I'm out.
Speaker 8 (49:07):
There, you know, come say hi, come by, come get
a lift in.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
And come get some advice.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
I'm nice to everybody, and like I said, give me
a follow on YouTube, Instagram.
Speaker 6 (49:15):
That's why I'm the most.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Active and wherever you are watching, you know, like we
just here the lead by example.
Speaker 6 (49:23):
Gotta fight your own fights. You gotta live your own life.
You gotta like develop your own greatness. You know great.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
If you guys want, I know, I love that. If
you guys want, I know, you got best fan based here.
I'll drag Bear out there and these guys can do
some sparring. I'll even bring in up Jarredy in London
and you can kill them both influence.
Speaker 4 (49:44):
Fortunate for me, it'll be fun.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 8 (49:51):
Thank you, thank you for giving me the opportunity. And
you guys have a beautiful rest of your day. Okay,
you as.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Well say, guys, here is going to be on the
September fourteenth fight. Are also going to be featuring him
in the new reality show we have coming up on
MMA Fighters. So the three that we will be focused
on actually from the social media world, going to be Ike,
Bear and uh Christopher right, yeah, except I called him
Jeremy two minutes ago. It's lunch, I know. I called
(50:17):
him Jeremy London, which is an actor. Well then it's
your fight fault. Then you lose a fight. So these
are the three guys and the rest of it that
we're going to be focused on some of the guys
from the US Olympic team. So do me a favor.
Make sure you are following I Catcher, make sure you
are following. Make sure you are following.
Speaker 7 (50:38):
But myself, Yes, at Bear Fjorda and that's Christopher London.
Speaker 4 (50:43):
There you go, all right? Perfect, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
So we like to mess around a lot, but I
really enjoyed talking with you. You are incredibly charming and
I think you're going to be a star just across
the It's very easy to see.
Speaker 6 (50:55):
Thank you, thank you. Okay, guys, Okay, bye guys.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Thank you for joining us on behind the scenes. Next
week you'll get me with a bunch of needles in
my face, and then after that we'll have on Christopher London,
which I'm looking forward to, but and then we can
talk about him punching Bear in the face. I'm Summer Helene.
This is my co host who waited until I'd like
to point off. He waited until I got off to
(51:19):
eat the chips, and then you felt small, didn't you?
Speaker 4 (51:22):
You do you next week? Good night right.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
This has been behind the scenes with Summer Helene and
Bear Fjorda, only on Talk for media.
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