July 26, 2024 • 51 mins
Jeremy Miller, actor known for Growing Pains and Peanuts, professional chef, 8 years sober, addiction recovery advocate, and author of "When I Wished Upon A Star."
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome to Behind the Scenes. We are half asked entertainment
news with no bullshit with our hosts Summer Helen and
Bear Fjorda, only on Talk four Media today.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Gooday, guys, welcome to Behind the Scenes. I'm your host Samma. Hello, Helene, Hello, Hello, Somema.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm your host Summa Helene, and we are with my
co host what's your name?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
See?
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Okay, so your name is now Summer Hello, and we
don't even know what my name is. Hi, everybody, my name.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Is Bear Fiorda.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Do you really need avertising?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Some parts, yes, but for the most part no. I
think I'm okay. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
You ask why I buy you the horrible treats you
have to eat? This is why I have today?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Do we do have treats today?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I'm not wearing my ears though, because look at these
fabulous earrings. Shout out to Matthew Morris. Fine jewelry. I
like anything that sparkles.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
That's fair and you want to show it off. So
today I'm not all little ears on? It makes Does
that make me special? As that make me like behind
in the in the trends?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
The little kid in the s? Do you have your
little ears on? Okay, so today we're going to be
talking about Cody co we are going to be talking
about clone Colleen Balinger. We are going to be talking
about Illuminati. We are going to be talking about doctor disrespect.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And what's that last one? Tyson?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
The Chris Chris Tyson? Right?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was going to talk about Matt Pat but okay.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, we should. We're already on the trend of like
terrible influencers in modern head.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Which is why I wanted to talk about a good
influence on Matt Pat.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
We talk Matt Pat too. He did retire though, so
that's probably that's what he retired. Like the best way though.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
This is what be is eating today. He loves chili,
hates mango, so let's see how he deales with Cummings.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Chili mango keep chalking through.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Anyways, as I was saying, Matt pat retired from YouTube,
it was probably about a month ago when he actually
did that, But it's coming out now that he is
kind of not following what he's been said, and that
was that he intended to be a part of his channel,
still intended to be a part of the show and
show himself off in the episodes, but no one has
seen him since, almost like he dropped off the grid.
And yeah, he also this, but that's what I'm thinking.
(02:32):
I don't think it's a bad thing. The guy built
an empire for himself in a nutshell, forty million subscribers,
he's got plenty of teams to operate it, and he's done.
He wants to go with this f he has, so
he's good to stop whenever he wants to stop. Unlike
more commonly known a more common information right now with
Cody co Chris Tyson, doctor disrespect. Unlike these YouTubers who
(02:55):
have to likely quick because their child touchers.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
That's not the word I would have used me.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He can't it run YouTube. You gotta be careful what
words we use.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Monsters.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Monsters is good. Monsters is good. You can probably call
them p diddlers if you want to do that.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, that sounds too cute.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Eat this, eat this? All right? We're starting early.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Then, Yeah, I just want to see him eate it?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Can I grab it? You're pinching there?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Put the whole thing email, didn't you? That was anticlimactic.
I was hoping it would bound him. Can we get
some of those chili nuts or something? Do you want
chili nuts?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's kind of spicy, But let's be real here, it's candy.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's a mango candy. You know I like the flavor
mango and candy.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You don't get any more.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It was okay, you.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Don't too your fight anyway?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Oh damn, she's ripe. But still you never do me
like that.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well you want to tell everyone what you go going on?
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Well, I'm pretty personally. I gotta fight coming up in September.
I believe it's on the fourteenth or sixteenth, fourteenth at
the Commerce Casino in the City of Commerce, at like
one hundred and eighty pounds and I'm currently two fifteenth.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Ah that that powder got into my throat.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Excellent?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Keep going anyways? What what? Anyways? So that's what she's
referencing me is being too fat right now?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And who are you fighting?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Just as a gentleman, I'll referred to as mister London.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He doesn't remember his neck.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
He has been on shows such as Milk manor and
and he's got his own following.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Which is why we're putting to fight and.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
He's not even It's actually funy. It's a lot of
the people who fight Christopher Lonnon. It's funny if people.
A lot of these guys fight as influencers would like
to show off or to be part of an event,
like even Karate Combat has their own influencer fight club.
But he's actually a fighter who also happens to influence
like what I do. So it's gonna be a really
good fight.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So you're gonna get beat up by the dude from
milf MANO.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's potential. I'm hoping I beat him up too. Let's
make it equal equal opportunity.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Already has mummy issues. Why would you do that to him?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Does he have mummy issues?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He's on milf MANA, his mom's fucking guy's his age.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Unless his manager or agent put him on there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I have seen mostly we watch it with that Cooper guy,
we watch.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It with the s yes.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Shout out to film Cooper for all his wonderful breakdowns
of Milf Manner and how he got into it in
the first place.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And now you're punching the guy from Milf Manner. It's
a turnund. We shouldn't like Cooper out to your fighting.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Let's do that.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Let we're getting getting side my hair, Milk Manner and
other YouTubers.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I have ADHD shut up.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
That's why I'm trying to pull you back into the
topic of influencers who are touching, you know, inappropriate aged
people and getting kicked off.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You should not have.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Said that after talking about the dude. Your fighting just
sounds like you want to molest him now. And by
the way, again, where I.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Don't know where you made those connections in your head?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was on Milk Manner.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Why is your obsession with that show?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Because it's something I think my mother and brother would
go on with their creepy house relationship.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Do they listen to the radio show my mommy.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Nice to my brother's partner, like my sister in law.
My sister in law is amazing, I'm like and my
mom has those just no mother in law moments where
I'm just like stop.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Would you you know party, what you do and what
you talked about me on it is you you spin
people's bad public stories.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Would you reputation management?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Would you help these guys out?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
No, I'm not on milk manner. I'm sticking to the
topic of what we're discussing right now.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Fine, okay, So what I'm hearing from you is you're
only interested in.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
The topic we picked before. Oh, for God's sake, never mind,
talk about whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
No, I would I spend for that?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Is there any my money they'll get you to spend
for these guys? No?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So faster faster kids. I have adopted kids. I like children.
I like them better than adults I do. I like
adults very much, but I love children. They're like horribly
honest monsters, and they will insult everybody. I love them.
They're like little insult machines.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Machines.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
The worst part is it's all authentic. They don't mean,
they're not trying to be insulting, they just say it honest.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
It So my problem when it comes to their is
I couldn't do it. I couldn't like I'm doing a
show called Canceled, which I about people that have been
canceled in media. And we've got a bunch of people
that have been through like traumatic things, that have had
issues in media, and I don't mind helping them. My
(07:51):
line really is with people that children. I've dealt with
children that have have been the victims of this. I've
fostered them, and there's no resept there's never a point
that the I mean, you can get better, but there's
(08:12):
no reset, there's no do over.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah. I also just don't support these people in any way. Uh,
fuck them. I'm sorry, Lee, I'd like to mind you
you have.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Every time we use bad language, we can money the
boys and girls, the Cup of America, the humane saneity
of America, and freem We swear.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Because we care. Yes, we do so again for the creator,
hang on hanging shout out right.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
We have to do shout out.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I will do right now. Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Shout out to our partner in Phoenix.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Oh do you mean the hotel AMBYC Sweet Hotel in Phoenix, Arizona.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Shout out to our give it way today?
Speaker 6 (08:50):
Is is it offered rentals in Palm Springs California.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Thank you for this gorgeous jewelry.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
From Matthew Moore's fine Jewelry.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
He's learning. Yeah, I'm getting for my fabulous hair too.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
KM Extends and Tiny Bubbles Hair Salon in pomp Springs, California.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I almost I almost never give the shout and.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
We're practicing, practicing, and shout out to Runway. I'm going
they're going to be doing an article on me. But
more importantly, they did a spread on my reality stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Candy, Candy, Candy, Brandy, Brandy Newman. I'm like, I'm like.
I went to say Brandy Newman formerly Brandy Moses, and
apparently that came out Candy.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I'm okay, I've.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Had no sleep. We spent all day in meetings in
Los Angeles yesterday.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
How'd they terrible?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Okay, it was.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
It was terrible. I found a couple of good people,
but for the most part.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
No, yeah, I heard you had one incident with a
particular lady that we can go into later if you want. No,
never mind, we can't. Sorry, I don't want to divulge
any secrets.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Or but I did meet with the Brittanys and I
love them.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Who's Brittany Brittany.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So, Brittany Schmidt and Britney Furlong come out if you can.
Britney fine stuff. She's married to Tommy Lee. She has
her own podcast and radio show with Brittany Schmidt. Check
them out if you can. Funny as fuck, awesome. So
shout out to them. I'm trying to get them into
a reality show. Don't tell I'm kidding. They already know. Yeah,
(10:18):
that was what we were talking about. But them, I
really like. I met a producer that I really like.
I met with an attorney that I'm just trying to
be friends with. Well, okay, the attorney dude I met with,
I really like. He made red Sonja check it out,
movies coming out, fantastic film.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I you know.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And I just happen to like him. I'm burying something
for him a paramount, just because I want to, because
I want to see the.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Film You're Unburied, Unburying.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay, I'm going to go catch an ip for him.
But the worst part is I met a complete jackass
out of myself. So I'm sitting there. I'm used to
explaining things to people that don't ship, so I'm sitting
there and I'm explaining to him how to unbury and
untangle this ip and he looks at me. He's like,
I'm an IP tourney.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's like, is an intellectual property attorney and so.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
But he but he let me finish before he reminded
me I knew this beforehand, but he let me finish.
I think he was just checking to see if I
knew my ship. But he let me finish. And then
he's like, this is my job.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I would think it's polite to let's own finish. You know,
you don't want to interrupt.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
He doesn't know. He interrupts me on everything I'm wrong, okay,
and he does, And I've been wrong a lot on
like superhero stuff. I'm really so anyone that my cats
are named after Jim Henson characters. I'm heavily into, like
comic books and sci fi certain types, not the crappy
ship he likes, like Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
It's like one of the godfathers of sci fi. Kay,
there's there's three from that. From that, I'd say three
big ones in that time period. Yeah, Tolkien's Lord of
the Rings er Hobbit, you have.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Star Trek, Star Wars time period.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
For this.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That's what I'm saying. It's from that, from that age
of like early sci fi. Those are three big ones,
you boy, another one, name a bigger one than Star Trek,
Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Or the Hobbit. Absolutely not you're talking about I am.
I think cult following wise, that no way peaks the
other three.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And this is why I was happy to talk to Luke.
It was nice to talk to somebody who kept track
of comics and you know, graphic novels and didn't suck.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm going to google this, No, I'm going to hold
a live stream and ask the audience's opinion.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So you don't want to google it because that'll prove
you wrong, but you want to ask your friends online.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I'm going to ask my wonderful friends who come on
my live stream and they will agree with me, and
then I'll show it to you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
God, you're such a pen in the all right, we
have a very special guest you know.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, I have Jeremy Miller on the show today. Welcome
to the show, Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
How you doing, how's it going? Thanks for having me on?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
God good. We figured it was we'd wait between discussing
pedophilia and inviting you on given the child stuffing, we
didn't think.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I was gonna say, hey, you know, that's pretty appropriate. Actually,
not that I experienced that in the industry or anything.
That's my own issues with family, you know, yeah, family
and crap, But I didn't experience that personally. Before we
get into this real quick, there's somebody you should check out.
(13:25):
Isaac Asimov is the grandfather, the founder of sci fi.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I have heard of his name, Yes, I have heard
to tell him.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Everything that came for Star Trek and Star Wars came
from him. Yes, that's the guy you want to definitely check.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Out Isaac Asimov. Ha movie ha ha. I was referencing
pop culture pieces, not.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's pop culture and that's you know, huge, but yeah,
all of that. I'm a huge sci fi guy, and
all of that came from Asimov. If you like sci fi,
check out Foundation and Empire. Check out his work. You'll
love it.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Hell yeah, man, thank you.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Speaking of being the industry and STIFFI would you mind
telling the audience a little bit about yourself and what
you do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
No worries. I played Ben Seaver on Growing Pains. It
was a hit show in the eighties. I was the
youngest brother. I also got.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Still a hit show, still on re run and still
very tweeted and quoted just philosophy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I also was privileged enough to play the voice of
Linus on The Peanuts Gang on multiple different specials, so
that was also a real you know, real honor and
real pleasure. And I'm still acting, still doing a lot
of independence and stuff. Actually filming leaving for a fitting
in about an hour to do a new TV show
(14:49):
I'm doing. It's actually called Angel. It's a cop street
crime drama. I play detective and it's going to be
on I believe, don't hold me to this. It premiered
on be Et and I believe the second season will
also be on be Et. So, oh yeah, you know,
I'm still doing it. I'm still involved.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That is usually how distribution works. They get pissy when
you take it from one place to another. I know
that from experience.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, so I have no idea what's going on with it.
That's definitely above my pay grade. But it'll it'll be
out sometime this coming year.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh yeah, good question.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
I actually I got really excited when I heard you
on the show because I only know you at least
not from growing pains, but from the Peanuts Gang specials,
and so I was I know the show, I never watched.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
There are bits training on.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Tip I know show. I never watched the show.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm sorry, believe me, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
How did you get involved in being the voice actor
for Linus?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Honestly, back then, they didn't keep voice actors and regular
actors very separate. You know, nowadays people really specialize in
voice acting. Back then, you only had a few people
who did that, and then they'd bring in actors like
us and try us out. And I just I was
a kid, that's all it was. I got called in.
They brought me into a recording studio Lee Mendelssohn, who
(16:13):
was the head of Peanuts Television at the time. He
basically ran that side of it for Charles Schultz. Charles
Schultz did not want to be a part of the
television or movie side of it. So I went in
and read, and Lee Mendelssohn came in and said, you
sound the most likely original Linus I've ever heard. You're hired,
(16:33):
and it's the only time I was ever hired on
the spot. So I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm actually gonna tell a horrible story, they stopped hiring
children as voice actors. My friend dev Ross wrote The
Land Before Time and in the early nineties because of
what happened to the little girl that played Ducky and
voiced in Old Dogs Go to Heaven, they actually stopped
hiring children as voice actors as much and started hiring adults.
She was murdered by her father.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh yes, it's not shocking. It really isn't. The more
you put kids in these precarious positions, you know, it
creates issues. And any company like that's going to be
worried about liability. I mean, they don't care about the kids.
Let's let's get it straight. They care about covering their ass. Well,
(17:21):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm the hotless bitch on the other end, That's what
I'm looking at. The only my only line is kids.
Everyone else I'm like he died on said, do we
have insurance?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'll tell you I've been in this off to it,
but I've been in recovery for years now. I've worked
in recovery. I'm a huge, huge believer in second chances.
I have seen people who have been done some of
the most horrible things in the world turn their lives
around and become some of the best people and best
citizens and the most helpful, wonderful, giving people you've ever met.
(17:54):
But I too, like you have that line, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You kill someone, I believe you can come back. You run,
you can come back. You had a kid, We done.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm with you on that. I'm the same way. I
really do believe there is always a second chance, except
in those.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Cases because well, they've even showed the wiring at that
point is different. It's well, it's it's not good, it's
I do think there There was one guy he calls
himself a righteous pedophile and basically said, I'm attracted to kids,
so I'm taking myself off the grid, moving out of
society and done. He's like, there is He lives.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Like a hermit near near an abandoned beach somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hey, id him more power to him. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Kid never did anything. But as soon as he said
these invasive and intrusive thoughts, he's like, I'm not safe
to be around kids.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
God bless him. That is. That is amazing to hear,
and that does not happen very often. I mean even
on our set, which was amazing. We had amazing people.
Nothing happened to the people on our set. But two
years or a few years after we went down, one
of our executive producers went to prison for production of
(19:09):
child pornography.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And the guy who has been the main focus of
that damn documentary about you know, Drake and all the
abuse and everything else, worked on our show for all
seven years. The guy who was grooming all the kids
on Nickelodeon worked on our show. He lived in my backhouse.
(19:33):
Oh I mean we were around these people. Yeah, yeah,
so yeah, nobody cares about the kids in this industry.
You know. They all like to say they do, but
they really don't. They may and I'll say this, I'm sorry.
Not everybody in Hollywood is a pedophile. It's no worse
than anywhere else where. Children are put in the hands
(19:53):
of adults and parents leave them unsupervised. You know, it
happened gymnastics, sports, all sorts of I mean, even I'm sorry.
There's going to piss a lot of people off church camps.
You know, also anywhere where you are leaving your children
in the hands of adults.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You know, I think people like that. Predators seek out
jobs and opportunity.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They absolutely do. They flock to those jobs. You know,
Hollywood is definitely a place in production if it's going
to be around kids where they're going to flock to,
you know, like you said, the sports programs where this
is a position of trust, they're going to flock to
those programs. You know. It just that's kind of the
way it goes.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what mcdojo talks about.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So I'm a lifelong martial artist. I compete in the cage.
I've been doing that for damn near twenty years now.
And I'll tell you right now, my industry is saturated
with pedophiles. Oh can't say damn, it's YouTube saturated with
people like that. It's it's a wholly inundated and it
sucks because it's it's like every other school in some
no name city is going to have a you know,
(20:59):
one of the people as a coach, and it's for
God's sake. It feels like the whole And I'll tell
you this, it does feel like with all the stories
out there that every coach is going to do something
bad to a kid, and that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's just exactly all.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Of those stories that drowns out everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, that's exactly it. I'll tell you I I the same.
I mean, I haven't fought in the cage. I haven't
done any of that. I was a little past my
prime when the when UFC came around, but I was.
I was in martial arts from seven years old on.
Uh you know, when I started getting jumped because of
the show and bullied and things like that. You know,
my mom enrolled me in a mic dojo originally. Oh yeah,
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originally it was red dragging karate. You know, it's just
here shout out to.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Make dojo life. Go investigate.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh yeah, it was. It was ridiculous, But I moved on.
I ended up actually at one of Chuck Norris's studios,
and I got to work with him and a couple
of his guys for you know, about five or six years.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Chuck.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Chuck would actually come in, you know, five six times
a year and work with us and stuff. But it
was I had the good experience. I mean I was
around these guys all the time. We were on travel teams,
we went to tournaments, and none of us, I mean
I still talk to those guys, none of us had
those experiences. There are good coaches out there, There are
(22:20):
good people out there who care. But you know, man,
you got it as a parent, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
So you got into film, you got into martial arts,
and somehow you just edged past those bad guys and
one of them was living in your back hand. I
don't know how. I'm glad you did That'll you have
some seriously repressed memories like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
What, I'll tell you it. I don't believe I do.
I've been you know, in recovery and therapy and all
those kinds of things many many times over. But I'll
tell you he still groomed us in the same way.
Nothing may have happened, but everything that Drake talks about
(23:03):
that he did to ingratiate himself into Drake's family's life,
he did with us.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So you were the test run.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't know what it is, but yeah, he did
every last little thing. Was. It was really creepy to
watch the documentary because I was just like, wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, I
mean everything with you?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, Well that's they do. They practice, they poke, they
test the waters. So now that we've talked about those
horrible things, I do a horrible thing.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
It does remind me of the Justin Bieber situation with
P Diddy and all that, that's one emulates.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, well that was tragic. Shout out to Justin Bieber's
having a baby.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, congratulations, congrats.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So one of the things, uh, I got wayside tracked.
I wanted to ask you about before we got on
this awful topic, which actually is a really good segue
into this that's terrible. It's even worse. Well, you were
a child actor, you know, your family issues and stuff
were pretty heavily publicized and all of that. What do
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you think of the YouTube families where they're pulling their
kids in and that's where they're making their money now,
is off their kids. Sorry, I just want to be
as controversial as no.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm honestly, I'm an open book and I'm good with
talking about it. I don't like it very much. Now,
let me have a caveat there there are kids who
want to do this. There are kids who are natural
born performers. You know, I was one of those. I
was at four years old up on grandma and Grandpa's
pool table, telling stories and telling jokes to their friends.
(24:42):
And so there are children who are like that who
are going to want to make skits and do things.
But the problem is, like anything, you're going to get
a lot of these parents who are doing it because
they want to, and they're making their kids do this,
and they're profiting on off of them. Don't I don't
like that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
The Kigen rules don't apply to YouTube, to any of that,
so they don't even have to put the well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Unfortunately, the Cougan rules only apply in five states anyway,
so it's not a national law. So that's one of
the one of the reasons why you know, eighty percent
of the work is being done outside of Los Angeles
and California and all the other places that have the
Cougan law because they don't have the child protection laws,
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they don't have the work hour laws for the kids.
They can take these kids to other states and work
them sixteen hours. They can take their money. They can't.
You know. I'm sorry, that's a soapbox issue for me.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Is my next production.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'm like, the fact that it is not a national
law is infuriating.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, it is. The It's it's really really terrible. One
of the reasons I avoid working with children and I
do you know a ton of reality television I make
very few exceptions. I made an exception with like Queen
of Temecula, because I'm comfortable with the family. I'm comfortable
the mother came from entertainment and is very protective of
her children, so that made me a lot more comfortable.
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But in general, I'm not a fan of working with
children at all if I can help it. For that reason.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So if a parent came up to you and said
I want my child famous doing it, that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Happens every fucking day. Sorry, that happens to me. Every
I had to move, they followed my child home.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I feel you, I really do. It's everybody, every mother,
every parent, every person I meet. How do I get
my kids in? How do I do? You know? And
I tell them the same thing that I kind of
guided with my kids. I'm like, unless they are dying
to do this, unless they can see nothing else, and
(26:48):
all they want is this, keep them the hell away
from this business. I tell them the same thing every time.
And that's what I told my boys. It's not that
I wouldn't have supported them if they wanted it. You know,
if they were just dreaming about it and wanting it,
I would have absolutely supported him. But you know, my oldest,
when he was about sixteen, came to me and said, hey, Dad,
(27:09):
I think I maybe want to give this acting thing
a try. So I sat him down and I said, well,
first of all, let me explain to you what that entails.
So you're not playing football anymore. I said, you're not
going on dates anymore. I said, you're going to go
to school. I'm going to pick you up from school,
or your mom's going to pick you up from school.
We are going to drive you to interviews while you
(27:30):
do homework in the car. We're going to sit in
traffic pretty much all day when we'll run you to interview.
After interview, you're going to finish your homework in the car.
If it's not finished, you're going to do it while
you eat dinner. Then you're going to shower. We're going
to rinse and repeat. And we're going to do this
five days a week, every single day, every single week.
I said, your only free time will be on the weekends,
and that's if they don't call you in for a
(27:50):
weekend interview, which happens about three times a month. And
he just got this look on his face and he said,
you know, Dad, I think I'll stick with football, I said,
probably a smart idea. You know, this is this is
not a lark, you know what I mean, It's it's
not there's a really tough business. This business eats children
for breakfast. I was very lucky. I mean, the fact
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that I came out only with alcoholism is a freaking miracle,
it really is. And it only goes to speak to,
you know, the strength of my family and the people
around me who took care of me and kept me
protected and kept a head on my shoulders. But this
business eats kids for breakfast. And you know, unless a
kid is just absolutely obsessed dreaming about it once it
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knows this is all they want to do. And very
few kids at six years old know that. You know,
I think you should keep your kids the hell away
from this business.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Well, you know, considering that our show is supposed to
be eighteen plus, which means you probably have quite a
few fourteen to fifteen year olds listening in, especially the
ones I unfortunately that listen on my life streams too
and end up going to listen to the show.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Kids, I think it's important that they kind of understand
as well, why you say that you only fell into alcoholism.
Would you mind explaining a little bit of that aspect
of your journey.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Absolutely. Now, the main trauma that I dealt with that
the alcoholism kind of stemmed from, was a sexual abuse
and mental and physical abuse from the stepfather. That was
the main trauma. But being a kid actor, I was
not equipped to deal with anything. At five years old,
(29:26):
I started working. I didn't get to learn. I didn't
get to grow up. I didn't get to learn to
be a kid. I didn't get to learn to process anything.
I literally went from five years old to you have
to be a professional. You have to act like a professional,
carry yourself as an adult, get your job done, be
on time. Nothing else developed. You're focused on completely other things.
(29:49):
Now you know what I'm saying. I was unprepared for life.
I mean just unprepared because I didn't know what real
life was. It's not that I was pampered or catered
to or anything else. I mean I had chores at home,
and you know, this was a time ago, and it
was okay to give your kid a swat, and believe me,
if I mouthed off, I was going to get one.
(30:09):
I had a very normal life. But growing up on set,
you have a different focus. Your whole development is thrown
out of whack. And I when it came time to
deal with trauma, when it came time to deal with
just life on life's terms, I was completely unequipped. I
had no life skills whatsoever. So when trauma started happening,
(30:34):
I didn't know how to deal. I didn't know where
to go, I didn't know who to go to. I
didn't know what to do with it. And I found Hey,
alcohol shuts that down pretty good. You know that anxiety
I'm feeling all the time, all of a sudden, it
goes away. I'm nice and calm. I can carry myself
with some confidence. And that's how it began for me.
(30:56):
I may be genetically disposed. I've never had an off switch.
I did actually start drinking at like four years old.
That's not a joke. Mom says it was around six.
Grandma said it was four. But after Grandma and Grandpa's parties.
I would go around and finish the last SIPs of beer.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
That would screw with your wiring pretty good.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I'm sure it probably did language development stage of you,
of your life.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I can't how to speak. You know.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We usually talk about people drinking young and saying, well,
your frontal lobes not developed, but your wasn't developed.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, and I I didn't. I mean it's not like
it was a regular thing. It didn't happen all the time,
but it happened enough that it was a running story
in my childhood and family and didn't stop until I
came across a butt can, which cured me of that real,
real quick.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Now a mouthful of cigarette ash will do that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Oh yeah. I From that point on, any time I drank,
it was always to excess. I mean always, there was
never an off switch for me. So I do honestly
believe that I am genetically wired for alcoholism, addiction, whatever
you want to call it. I never had that off switch.
(32:15):
I mean, at twelve years old, I went to the
beach with one of the producer's nephews. He had a
volleyball wear company, and this is when beach volleyball was
going blowing up in the eighties, and we went down
to one of the biggest beach volleyball opens down in
Hermosa Beach. We spent the day on the beach drinking beer.
Then we went to parties like all night. And I'm
(32:36):
twelve years old, and I'm pounding beers, you know, to
the point where I got sick, really sick. And then
now most kids, you'd go and puke your guts out
horrifically from drinking thirty beers over the course of the day.
What do you do? You go curl up in a ball.
I went back to the cooler.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Damn man, my brother still don't drink tequila from the
time he vomited on adult.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, that's a normal person. I went back right back
to the cooler, right, so again, I just never had
that off switch. And once I began self medicating with
the alcohol, Like I said, none of that before as
an excuse. I I just was unequipped to deal. And
I chose alcohol as my as my coping mechanism. And
(33:23):
it went south very very quickly. I mean I maintained
for a long time, that's for sure, but I start
got to the point where I needed a drink on
a regular basis very very quickly. I was carrying around
a flask. It was. It was pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Wow, that's all.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
And I asked my next question out of that, do
you tell me if I'm prying too deep at anymore?
What do you what are your what was your parents
and grandparents perspective to get you off for the helping
this happen, like what was.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well, you have to understand this was a different time.
This was the seventies early eighties. My grand father used
to be able to take me to the bar with
him and set me on the bar. He'd get me
a Shirley Temple and he'd drink beers and vodka with
his friends. That was normal. A cop could walk in
and it would not have been a problem. This was
(34:14):
a very different time. My grandparents were functional seventies alcoholics
who had alcohol around the house all the time, but
who were also the type of people who never missed
a day of work, never missed a car payment, were responsible,
got their work done. But you could bet by five
oh five they had their butts in their favorite bar seat.
(34:35):
You know, that's what I was raised as normal. You know,
that's kind of what I was around. So it was
kind of a joke, you know, it was a running
family story that was funny that I was the kid
who ran around and drank all the beers. It didn't
become a tragic part of the story until later when
(34:58):
everybody realized, oh crap, he has a real problem.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, I've gone a little too far in the deep. Bet.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I guess, well, it's one of those things. They didn't
catch the red flag when it was a red flag,
so I'm a problem. Later they went it was a red.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Flag, right.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And there are a lot of cultures where people drink
like that. Like I'm joking in saying Australia's like that,
but it's still like that. That's how it is. You
are there, it's how everyone drinks. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well that's again, I don't think I could ever normally.
I have a feeling, I have a wiring issue, chemical issue,
whatever it is. I could never have been a normal drinker.
But I am a big believer in the fact that,
because I've seen the data, the cultures who have normalized
drinking have a much lower rate of alcoholism among their youth. Yes,
(35:47):
it's not used as a rebellious exactly exactly. My friends
who are Jewish who were raised drinking wine at a
young age at the satyr and it pass over and
it's not some mysterious thing to them that they're dying
to try and experiment with and all this other stuff.
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think it's we need to be very clear.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Though.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It's also very different than you know, you're talking about
being four and six.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I mean, that's is a big difference.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
You know, we're talking about teenage binge drinking. That is
not I mean, it's awful, but it's not comparable to
a child that young.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Not.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
But I'm so into Sorry, I'm curious to you mentioned
that you made a decision to kind of mitigate with
the alcohol, I mean medicate.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Did you punch yesterday?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Is it really fair to say that, I mean, you
were twelve. How could you have made that decision for
yourself at twelve years old?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, that wasn't when I started really drinking. That was
just a fun experiment. It was later on when my
anxiety disorder really kind of set in, when the trauma
from my abuse really kind of unearthed itself from my psyche.
That all started coming out around seven teen years old
(37:00):
or so, okay, and that was around the time that
I started experimenting more with alcohols, started sneaking more, and
by eighteen I was regularly carrying a flask.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I do have to say, I'm not sure that counts
is an experiment. Most twelve year olds, you're experimenting with
like vinegar and baking soda. It's not like that. It's
not quite what I would call that was on the
producer's partner, on the person that I owned this company,
I say, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a
(37:34):
child abuse. There are lots of woods I would use
for it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh yeah, but again, and I'm not saying it makes
it okay, But it was just a very different time.
It really was. I mean, you're talking about a time,
and yes it was horrible, but you're talking about a
time where people were letting Drew Barrymore into New York
night clubs at nine years old. People didn't blink at
doing this stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yep, it was but she ended up mangled, I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Ended up bad. I'm not defending it in any way.
I'm just trying to make it. You understand that it
was a very different time. There was a very different mindset,
and people did not take things as seriously. They didn't
see the ramifications as clearly as they do now. So
it was just it was a really weird and different time.
(38:22):
I mean, the fact that I regularly sat on a
barstool and hustled pool with my grandfather at six years
old in a bar. He'd be arrested nowadays, but it
was nothing anybody blinked at back then.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Right and you know, well, you know now obviously were
a dark topic, but I think it was essential get
it as people who may not understand what the industry
can do for you, especially if you're aready dealing with
some type of past trauma as well.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
But you look at what it's done to women. You
look what it's done to men. You look what it's
done to gay men. I still I dated for a
very long time. Like when he and I started dating,
everyone thought he was gay because I spent and I
mean in the industry, because I was like a beard
for half of the NBA and NFL, because it's not
cool for them to be gay.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
We impressed that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
So I started dating him. They're like, oh, gay cage fighter.
I'm like no, I'm actually dating him. Like come on,
you're like a little bit bullshit. I'm like no, really,
I saw it. We lived together. God damn it.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Like it was not good, would be a bit hostile
to different people and different types of people.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
It is, but look what it's done to women. Like,
you know, I was really lucky. I came up onto
people that were very protective. I was really lucky. It
sounds like not with your stepfather, but with the industry,
you were lucky. And I hate to say that that's
what it is, but not having things like that happen.
Like I started a Victoria's Secret when I was sixteen,
I could have gone horrible. It could have been horrible.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Absolutely. One of my very dear friends started acting at
about fourteen or so, and by sixteen years old. Now
she was a well developed girl young and by sixteen
she had already had five or six different producers try
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and get her to take her top off in an audition.
Oh yeah, I'm talking about a fourteen and fifteen year
old girl.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Here, look at I mean we have we're talking Wiltram.
At the beginning of the show about the YouTube's Tanamonjo,
she was seventeen and Codyko slept with her after being
told by Gabby Hamnah, that chicks seven.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
You know she's a kid five time too.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, she's a kid. Like it's not it's a catch
twenty two. I think it depends on who you come
in under and the protection you have anyone looked at me.
My mom was screaming jailbait when I was sixteen, and
you know, I was legal in Australia but not here,
and so you know, she used that to keep everyone
the hell away from me. And then by the time
(40:54):
I was like seventeen, I started at sixteen. I was
working for the president of Viacom at that point as
an intern, so no one would have screwed with me.
Then I just very very very lucky, and I could
put it that way. And with the man you had
in your house, good God, Like the lucky is the
understand that, oh.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, it didn't go that side of it didn't go
real well. But I was I was lucky in that
I was very protected on set. My family was always there,
and during the time when my mother was having my
younger brothers, she wasn't able to be on set. I
had other people looking out for me. I had my
(41:34):
set teacher who I was very close to, Millie, who
you know, kept a very close eye on me. I
had Alan and Joanna, you know, who played my mom
and dad on the show, who were my second set
of parents. I mean they both whipped my butt when
I was young. You know it was that they put
me in my place when they needed to, But I
was always looked out for, so I was protected on set,
(41:58):
and I was very lucky key for that, especially knowing
what I know now and that I was working with
two very very dangerous pedophiles. Sorry Kitty Touchers.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah, YouTube's worried about that for some reason. To watch.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
Spot, you seem to have come out of it all
pretty blame well managed. I'm sure you let a learn
a lot, go through a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
He can act, you can act normal. We don't know
if he's okay.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I don't act that well anymore. I've done a lot
of recovery work, That's really the truth. There's there's only
one reason I'm anywhere close to where I am now,
and that's because I'm sober and I've done the work.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I've done a lot of soul searching, a lot of
self reflection. I've I am probably one of the more
self aware human beings on this planet. I I have
pinpointed damn near every fault, and every moment I see
it pop up, I do whatever I can to try
and push it back and go the opposite direction. One
(43:03):
of the things I lived my life by now is
something called contrary action. You know, whatever I don't want
to do, that's what I'm doing. You know that's an
anxiety thing. If I don't want to do it, then
I know I need to get it done. I need
I know that's what I need to be working on.
There's just a lot of different things that I've learned
to manage my life, to manage my addiction, to manage
(43:26):
my anxiety, and it's taken a lot of work. I
don't I don't personally like medicine because I get a
lot I get. I'm the guy who gets every side
effect that they have on the list. That's me. It
doesn't matter what it is. I'm the guy who gets
every side effect on the list. So I hate taking meds.
(43:46):
I've done all the anxiety meds and all the different stuff.
I've tried to do the medical route, and anybody who
needs that, I am not telling you not to do that.
I'm not a doctor. Do not listen to me. Listen
to your doctor. If he says you need it, take
your damn medicine. You know. I've seen it happen in recovery.
There's guys who say, who want to tell people you're
not sober if you're on you know, prescription meds from
(44:08):
your doctor, you know for psych meds and things like that.
I've seen guys stop the meds and kill themselves within
three days because some dumb ass opened their mouth and
tried to be a doctor and tried to say, well,
you don't need that and you're not sober, so if
you're going to be sober, you have to stop. These
(44:28):
people are dead within three days most of the time
if they stop. So I'm not telling anybody not to
do it, but for me, they don't work. So I've
had to do all of this naturally. I've had to
do all of this with feet on the ground work.
I've had to find ways to manage it. I've had
to find techniques. I've had to find things to meditate
to calm myself. There's a lot of things I do
(44:50):
to keep myself okay, man.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Thank you for adding along with that story. I think
we're adding in the caveat of please listen to your
doctors that could shop.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
It can be really miscontrure. Like a talking amount of
people don't say that, even on this show where the
one is usually jumping into the caveat of me into
a medical.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
No, medical professionals don't listen to us that that's a
huge core tenant of recovery. It really is is we
are not doctors.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's I'm not here to tell anybody else anything medical.
I can tell you how I got sober. I can
tell you what I do to stay okay up here,
but I can't tell you what you need medically. You know.
It's just it's not my place. And I I I
do what I do because I know how those things
affect me. I have family in my life that do
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take medication that it works wonders for.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I'd like to know we're talking about something serious. Usually
the most medical advice we get on here is, like us, lubricant,
So it's really nice to talk about something.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's wonderful advice as well. But I'm just.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Saying, like, it's nice to talk about something that could
actually positively benefit people for chains. We usually time out,
you know, don't get punched in the head and get CTE.
So we have about four minutes of the show left.
Can you please tell everyone where to find you on
social media so they can continue the conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
You can find me on Facebook at Jeremy James Miller,
and you can find me on Instagram at the real
Jeremy Miller.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
You need to get on TikTok and see all the
growing kind stelle Like, really.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I know, I know, and everybody is. I've been hammered
by my best friend, my old podcast partner, and my fiance. It's, honestly,
right now a self help thing for me. I have
too many things sucking up my time already and my attention,
and I'm trying to stay focused on all the other
things I'm doing these projects I'm working on. So getting
(46:49):
another thing that I got to start posting with that's
going to start drawing my attention that I'm gonna start
scrolling through it two in the morning when my insomnia.
It's just not something I need right now.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Speaking of those projects, what are some things that people
can look forward to seeing from you?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
So this television show I'm working on is called Angel.
I play the one of the lead characters, Partner. I'm
a detective. That should be out sometime. I believe the
first episode of season two will be premiering. I want
to say by the end of the year. Beginning of
next year. I don't know the network for sure, like
I said, but I believe it. It's premiere on beet,
(47:29):
so I'm hoping that that's where the second season will be.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I'm going to tell everyone Distro's really messed up right now.
Between the pandemic and a bunch of strikes, things are shifting,
Things are being sold, things are being and things are
being put out off season wall. Usually we could tell
you like, oh, this day, this day, this day, like
this is wind, stuff's put out. He's right, it's really
myles right now.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
I've had my sal show have like two seasons on
Hulu and then the third seasons on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, it's getting a little weird at the moment. But
if if you want to be able to follow it
and you want to see exactly where it's coming out,
just following me on one of my social medias, I'll
post everything that's going to be coming up where it's
going to be. I also have three movies that are
just getting their financing back after the strike. You'll love this.
We got green lit two weeks before the strike for
(48:18):
all three films. I've been trying to get these gone
for seven years, seven years. We got green lit two
weeks before the strike and then held on to our
financing until three weeks before the strike ended and the
financers had to pull it.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
I tell you, if you want to know who to
blame for the strike and the pandemic, Rachel Alexander. She
wrote Receiver of Money. Hear me out. I'm doing her show.
We're talking to Stars and BBC right now. I think Stars.
I'm pushing for bb six. I want to go to Australia.
We were set with HBO before the pandemic. We have
reset this book so many times, and then the book
(48:53):
got ripped off like four different times. And now she's
been lossuits first and we're doing this. But I'm telling you,
every time we move ahead with hers, something happens.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I feel you.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
We decided we're going to do an animated intro to
her show, and now the animation strike. So if you
want to send hate mail, it's to Rachel Alexander. Many
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Saying I love it. Financing, so yeah, I'm working on those,
and then I'm also actually going to be doing some
of my first directing on some children's shorts for European television.
I'm working with a company that does these wonderful puppets
for kids and stuff, and we're going to be producing
some children's television for these five different channels in Europe.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Like Henson style puppets or.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Actually they are sock puppets. Everyone has a different character
and you know.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
So neither Jim Hanson, no creepy, a whole new like
soft puppets.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
What made you decide to do so? But that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
It actually is already in development. I met a wonderful
guy named Rob who had these character He's a lifelong
puppeteer and he's also a philanthropist and he saw a
chance to start doing these puppets. He wants each puppet
kind of has a message he focuses on, like the
old beatitudes of treating people well, and it's just kind
(50:16):
of the old school stuff that we were taught that
we want to start teaching kids again. And he's using
the puppets to do that, and the profits from that
he's turning around in different charities that he supports. So
it just was a wonderful project for me to get
involved with. And I kind of I've always liked puppets
and I think they're really kind of cool. So I
(50:37):
got really excited doing it. And so anyway, I'm going
to be directing some of those shorts, and he was wonderful.
I also, I have a reality kind of thing that
I'm trying to get moving at the moment. I can't
give you too much detail, but it is based around
engagements and it would be called Finally and it's something
(50:58):
that I've been trying to put together with my fiance
for quite a while.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
So yeah, I got a lot of things in the
fire at the moment. Please follow me on one of
my well on one of the social media sites if
you want to see what's coming up and where it's
going to be.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Follow him on the social media sites and tell me
about the poppets. Tell me if they're creepy before I watch.
All right, thank you so much for joining us. I
really appreciate all of your insight and it's great to
see a functional adult that came from a child acting Ali.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Thank you. It was great talking with both of you.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Thank you for joining us on the show.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Take Care by Guys.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
I'm Summer Helene.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
Oh is it my okay? I'm bear Fjorda. It usually
she says both our names. Make me say my own name.
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Speaker 6 (00:53):
Okay, so your name is now Summer Hello, and we
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Speaker 4 (00:59):
Do you really need avertising?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Some parts, yes, but for the most part no. I
think I'm okay. Right.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
You ask why I buy you the horrible treats you
have to eat? This is why I have today?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Do we do have treats today?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I'm not wearing my ears though, because look at these
fabulous earrings. Shout out to Matthew Morris. Fine jewelry. I
like anything that sparkles.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
That's fair and you want to show it off. So
today I'm not all little ears on? It makes Does
that make me special? As that make me like behind
in the in the trends?
Speaker 4 (01:27):
The little kid in the s? Do you have your
little ears on? Okay, so today we're going to be
talking about Cody co we are going to be talking
about clone Colleen Balinger. We are going to be talking
about Illuminati. We are going to be talking about doctor disrespect.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
And what's that last one? Tyson?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
The Chris Chris Tyson? Right?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was going to talk about Matt Pat but okay.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
No, we should. We're already on the trend of like
terrible influencers in modern head.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Which is why I wanted to talk about a good
influence on Matt Pat.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
We talk Matt Pat too. He did retire though, so
that's probably that's what he retired. Like the best way though.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
This is what be is eating today. He loves chili,
hates mango, so let's see how he deales with Cummings.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Chili mango keep chalking through.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Anyways, as I was saying, Matt pat retired from YouTube,
it was probably about a month ago when he actually
did that, But it's coming out now that he is
kind of not following what he's been said, and that
was that he intended to be a part of his channel,
still intended to be a part of the show and
show himself off in the episodes, but no one has
seen him since, almost like he dropped off the grid.
And yeah, he also this, but that's what I'm thinking.
(02:32):
I don't think it's a bad thing. The guy built
an empire for himself in a nutshell, forty million subscribers,
he's got plenty of teams to operate it, and he's done.
He wants to go with this f he has, so
he's good to stop whenever he wants to stop. Unlike
more commonly known a more common information right now with
Cody co Chris Tyson, doctor disrespect. Unlike these YouTubers who
(02:55):
have to likely quick because their child touchers.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
That's not the word I would have used me.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
He can't it run YouTube. You gotta be careful what
words we use.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Monsters.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Monsters is good. Monsters is good. You can probably call
them p diddlers if you want to do that.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
No, that sounds too cute.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Eat this, eat this? All right? We're starting early.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Then, Yeah, I just want to see him eate it?
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Can I grab it? You're pinching there?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Put the whole thing email, didn't you? That was anticlimactic.
I was hoping it would bound him. Can we get
some of those chili nuts or something? Do you want
chili nuts?
Speaker 5 (03:39):
It's kind of spicy, But let's be real here, it's candy.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's a mango candy. You know I like the flavor
mango and candy.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
You don't get any more.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
It was okay, you.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Don't too your fight anyway?
Speaker 5 (03:51):
Oh damn, she's ripe. But still you never do me
like that.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well you want to tell everyone what you go going on?
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Well, I'm pretty personally. I gotta fight coming up in September.
I believe it's on the fourteenth or sixteenth, fourteenth at
the Commerce Casino in the City of Commerce, at like
one hundred and eighty pounds and I'm currently two fifteenth.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Ah that that powder got into my throat.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Excellent?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Keep going anyways? What what? Anyways? So that's what she's
referencing me is being too fat right now?
Speaker 4 (04:22):
And who are you fighting?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Just as a gentleman, I'll referred to as mister London.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
He doesn't remember his neck.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
He has been on shows such as Milk manor and
and he's got his own following.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Which is why we're putting to fight and.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
He's not even It's actually funy. It's a lot of
the people who fight Christopher Lonnon. It's funny if people.
A lot of these guys fight as influencers would like
to show off or to be part of an event,
like even Karate Combat has their own influencer fight club.
But he's actually a fighter who also happens to influence
like what I do. So it's gonna be a really
good fight.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
So you're gonna get beat up by the dude from
milf MANO.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
It's potential. I'm hoping I beat him up too. Let's
make it equal equal opportunity.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Already has mummy issues. Why would you do that to him?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Does he have mummy issues?
Speaker 4 (05:08):
He's on milf MANA, his mom's fucking guy's his age.
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Unless his manager or agent put him on there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I have seen mostly we watch it with that Cooper guy,
we watch.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
It with the s yes.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Shout out to film Cooper for all his wonderful breakdowns
of Milf Manner and how he got into it in
the first place.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
And now you're punching the guy from Milf Manner. It's
a turnund. We shouldn't like Cooper out to your fighting.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It would make a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Let's do that.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
Let we're getting getting side my hair, Milk Manner and
other YouTubers.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I have ADHD shut up.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
That's why I'm trying to pull you back into the
topic of influencers who are touching, you know, inappropriate aged
people and getting kicked off.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
You should not have.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Said that after talking about the dude. Your fighting just
sounds like you want to molest him now. And by
the way, again, where I.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Don't know where you made those connections in your head?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was on Milk Manner.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Why is your obsession with that show?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Because it's something I think my mother and brother would
go on with their creepy house relationship.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Do they listen to the radio show my mommy.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Nice to my brother's partner, like my sister in law.
My sister in law is amazing, I'm like and my
mom has those just no mother in law moments where
I'm just like stop.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
Would you you know party, what you do and what
you talked about me on it is you you spin
people's bad public stories.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Would you reputation management?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Would you help these guys out?
Speaker 6 (06:44):
No, I'm not on milk manner. I'm sticking to the
topic of what we're discussing right now.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Fine, okay, So what I'm hearing from you is you're
only interested in.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
The topic we picked before. Oh, for God's sake, never mind,
talk about whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
No, I would I spend for that?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Is there any my money they'll get you to spend
for these guys? No?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So faster faster kids. I have adopted kids. I like children.
I like them better than adults I do. I like
adults very much, but I love children. They're like horribly
honest monsters, and they will insult everybody. I love them.
They're like little insult machines.
Speaker 5 (07:23):
Machines.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
The worst part is it's all authentic. They don't mean,
they're not trying to be insulting, they just say it honest.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
It So my problem when it comes to their is
I couldn't do it. I couldn't like I'm doing a
show called Canceled, which I about people that have been
canceled in media. And we've got a bunch of people
that have been through like traumatic things, that have had
issues in media, and I don't mind helping them. My
(07:51):
line really is with people that children. I've dealt with
children that have have been the victims of this. I've
fostered them, and there's no resept there's never a point
that the I mean, you can get better, but there's
(08:12):
no reset, there's no do over.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Yeah. I also just don't support these people in any way. Uh,
fuck them. I'm sorry, Lee, I'd like to mind you
you have.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Every time we use bad language, we can money the
boys and girls, the Cup of America, the humane saneity
of America, and freem We swear.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Because we care. Yes, we do so again for the creator,
hang on hanging shout out right.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
We have to do shout out.
Speaker 5 (08:36):
I will do right now. Go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Shout out to our partner in Phoenix.
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Oh do you mean the hotel AMBYC Sweet Hotel in Phoenix, Arizona.
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Is is it offered rentals in Palm Springs California.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Thank you for this gorgeous jewelry.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
From Matthew Moore's fine Jewelry.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
He's learning. Yeah, I'm getting for my fabulous hair too.
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Speaker 4 (09:08):
Fantastic.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I almost I almost never give the shout and.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
We're practicing, practicing, and shout out to Runway. I'm going
they're going to be doing an article on me. But
more importantly, they did a spread on my reality stuff.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Candy, Candy, Candy, Brandy, Brandy Newman. I'm like, I'm like.
I went to say Brandy Newman formerly Brandy Moses, and
apparently that came out Candy.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I'm okay, I've.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Had no sleep. We spent all day in meetings in
Los Angeles yesterday.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
How'd they terrible?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Okay, it was.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
It was terrible. I found a couple of good people,
but for the most part.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
No, yeah, I heard you had one incident with a
particular lady that we can go into later if you want. No,
never mind, we can't. Sorry, I don't want to divulge
any secrets.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Or but I did meet with the Brittanys and I
love them.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Who's Brittany Brittany.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
So, Brittany Schmidt and Britney Furlong come out if you can.
Britney fine stuff. She's married to Tommy Lee. She has
her own podcast and radio show with Brittany Schmidt. Check
them out if you can. Funny as fuck, awesome. So
shout out to them. I'm trying to get them into
a reality show. Don't tell I'm kidding. They already know. Yeah,
(10:18):
that was what we were talking about. But them, I
really like. I met a producer that I really like.
I met with an attorney that I'm just trying to
be friends with. Well, okay, the attorney dude I met with,
I really like. He made red Sonja check it out,
movies coming out, fantastic film.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I you know.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
And I just happen to like him. I'm burying something
for him a paramount, just because I want to, because
I want to see the.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Film You're Unburied, Unburying.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay, I'm going to go catch an ip for him.
But the worst part is I met a complete jackass
out of myself. So I'm sitting there. I'm used to
explaining things to people that don't ship, so I'm sitting
there and I'm explaining to him how to unbury and
untangle this ip and he looks at me. He's like,
I'm an IP tourney.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's like, is an intellectual property attorney and so.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
But he but he let me finish before he reminded
me I knew this beforehand, but he let me finish.
I think he was just checking to see if I
knew my ship. But he let me finish. And then
he's like, this is my job.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
I would think it's polite to let's own finish. You know,
you don't want to interrupt.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
He doesn't know. He interrupts me on everything I'm wrong, okay,
and he does, And I've been wrong a lot on
like superhero stuff. I'm really so anyone that my cats
are named after Jim Henson characters. I'm heavily into, like
comic books and sci fi certain types, not the crappy
ship he likes, like Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
It's like one of the godfathers of sci fi. Kay,
there's there's three from that. From that, I'd say three
big ones in that time period. Yeah, Tolkien's Lord of
the Rings er Hobbit, you have.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Star Trek, Star Wars time period.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
For this.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
That's what I'm saying. It's from that, from that age
of like early sci fi. Those are three big ones,
you boy, another one, name a bigger one than Star Trek,
Star Wars.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Or the Hobbit. Absolutely not you're talking about I am.
I think cult following wise, that no way peaks the
other three.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And this is why I was happy to talk to Luke.
It was nice to talk to somebody who kept track
of comics and you know, graphic novels and didn't suck.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I'm going to google this, No, I'm going to hold
a live stream and ask the audience's opinion.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So you don't want to google it because that'll prove
you wrong, but you want to ask your friends online.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I'm going to ask my wonderful friends who come on
my live stream and they will agree with me, and
then I'll show it to you.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
God, you're such a pen in the all right, we
have a very special guest you know.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Yeah, I have Jeremy Miller on the show today. Welcome
to the show, Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
How you doing, how's it going? Thanks for having me on?
Speaker 4 (12:55):
God good. We figured it was we'd wait between discussing
pedophilia and inviting you on given the child stuffing, we
didn't think.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I was gonna say, hey, you know, that's pretty appropriate. Actually,
not that I experienced that in the industry or anything.
That's my own issues with family, you know, yeah, family
and crap, But I didn't experience that personally. Before we
get into this real quick, there's somebody you should check out.
(13:25):
Isaac Asimov is the grandfather, the founder of sci fi.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I have heard of his name, Yes, I have heard
to tell him.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Everything that came for Star Trek and Star Wars came
from him. Yes, that's the guy you want to definitely check.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Out Isaac Asimov. Ha movie ha ha. I was referencing
pop culture pieces, not.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Yeah, that's pop culture and that's you know, huge, but yeah,
all of that. I'm a huge sci fi guy, and
all of that came from Asimov. If you like sci fi,
check out Foundation and Empire. Check out his work. You'll
love it.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Hell yeah, man, thank you.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Speaking of being the industry and STIFFI would you mind
telling the audience a little bit about yourself and what
you do.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
No worries. I played Ben Seaver on Growing Pains. It
was a hit show in the eighties. I was the
youngest brother. I also got.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Still a hit show, still on re run and still
very tweeted and quoted just philosophy.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I also was privileged enough to play the voice of
Linus on The Peanuts Gang on multiple different specials, so
that was also a real you know, real honor and
real pleasure. And I'm still acting, still doing a lot
of independence and stuff. Actually filming leaving for a fitting
in about an hour to do a new TV show
(14:49):
I'm doing. It's actually called Angel. It's a cop street
crime drama. I play detective and it's going to be
on I believe, don't hold me to this. It premiered
on be Et and I believe the second season will
also be on be Et. So, oh yeah, you know,
I'm still doing it. I'm still involved.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That is usually how distribution works. They get pissy when
you take it from one place to another. I know
that from experience.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, so I have no idea what's going on with it.
That's definitely above my pay grade. But it'll it'll be
out sometime this coming year.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Oh yeah, good question.
Speaker 6 (15:25):
I actually I got really excited when I heard you
on the show because I only know you at least
not from growing pains, but from the Peanuts Gang specials,
and so I was I know the show, I never watched.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
There are bits training on.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Tip I know show. I never watched the show.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm sorry, believe me, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
How did you get involved in being the voice actor
for Linus?
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Honestly, back then, they didn't keep voice actors and regular
actors very separate. You know, nowadays people really specialize in
voice acting. Back then, you only had a few people
who did that, and then they'd bring in actors like
us and try us out. And I just I was
a kid, that's all it was. I got called in.
They brought me into a recording studio Lee Mendelssohn, who
(16:13):
was the head of Peanuts Television at the time. He
basically ran that side of it for Charles Schultz. Charles
Schultz did not want to be a part of the
television or movie side of it. So I went in
and read, and Lee Mendelssohn came in and said, you
sound the most likely original Linus I've ever heard. You're hired,
(16:33):
and it's the only time I was ever hired on
the spot. So I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
I'm actually gonna tell a horrible story, they stopped hiring
children as voice actors. My friend dev Ross wrote The
Land Before Time and in the early nineties because of
what happened to the little girl that played Ducky and
voiced in Old Dogs Go to Heaven, they actually stopped
hiring children as voice actors as much and started hiring adults.
She was murdered by her father.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Oh yes, it's not shocking. It really isn't. The more
you put kids in these precarious positions, you know, it
creates issues. And any company like that's going to be
worried about liability. I mean, they don't care about the kids.
Let's let's get it straight. They care about covering their ass. Well,
(17:21):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
I'm the hotless bitch on the other end, That's what
I'm looking at. The only my only line is kids.
Everyone else I'm like he died on said, do we
have insurance?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I'll tell you I've been in this off to it,
but I've been in recovery for years now. I've worked
in recovery. I'm a huge, huge believer in second chances.
I have seen people who have been done some of
the most horrible things in the world turn their lives
around and become some of the best people and best
citizens and the most helpful, wonderful, giving people you've ever met.
(17:54):
But I too, like you have that line, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
You kill someone, I believe you can come back. You run,
you can come back. You had a kid, We done.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I'm with you on that. I'm the same way. I
really do believe there is always a second chance, except
in those.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Cases because well, they've even showed the wiring at that
point is different. It's well, it's it's not good, it's
I do think there There was one guy he calls
himself a righteous pedophile and basically said, I'm attracted to kids,
so I'm taking myself off the grid, moving out of
society and done. He's like, there is He lives.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
Like a hermit near near an abandoned beach somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Hey, id him more power to him. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Kid never did anything. But as soon as he said
these invasive and intrusive thoughts, he's like, I'm not safe
to be around kids.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
God bless him. That is. That is amazing to hear,
and that does not happen very often. I mean even
on our set, which was amazing. We had amazing people.
Nothing happened to the people on our set. But two
years or a few years after we went down, one
of our executive producers went to prison for production of
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child pornography.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
And the guy who has been the main focus of
that damn documentary about you know, Drake and all the
abuse and everything else, worked on our show for all
seven years. The guy who was grooming all the kids
on Nickelodeon worked on our show. He lived in my backhouse.
(19:33):
Oh I mean we were around these people. Yeah, yeah,
so yeah, nobody cares about the kids in this industry.
You know. They all like to say they do, but
they really don't. They may and I'll say this, I'm sorry.
Not everybody in Hollywood is a pedophile. It's no worse
than anywhere else where. Children are put in the hands
(19:53):
of adults and parents leave them unsupervised. You know, it
happened gymnastics, sports, all sorts of I mean, even I'm sorry.
There's going to piss a lot of people off church camps.
You know, also anywhere where you are leaving your children
in the hands of adults.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
You know, I think people like that. Predators seek out
jobs and opportunity.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They absolutely do. They flock to those jobs. You know,
Hollywood is definitely a place in production if it's going
to be around kids where they're going to flock to,
you know, like you said, the sports programs where this
is a position of trust, they're going to flock to
those programs. You know. It just that's kind of the
way it goes.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what mcdojo talks about.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
So I'm a lifelong martial artist. I compete in the cage.
I've been doing that for damn near twenty years now.
And I'll tell you right now, my industry is saturated
with pedophiles. Oh can't say damn, it's YouTube saturated with
people like that. It's it's a wholly inundated and it
sucks because it's it's like every other school in some
no name city is going to have a you know,
(20:59):
one of the people as a coach, and it's for
God's sake. It feels like the whole And I'll tell
you this, it does feel like with all the stories
out there that every coach is going to do something
bad to a kid, and that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
It's just exactly all.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Of those stories that drowns out everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, that's exactly it. I'll tell you I I the same.
I mean, I haven't fought in the cage. I haven't
done any of that. I was a little past my
prime when the when UFC came around, but I was.
I was in martial arts from seven years old on.
Uh you know, when I started getting jumped because of
the show and bullied and things like that. You know,
my mom enrolled me in a mic dojo originally. Oh yeah,
(21:38):
originally it was red dragging karate. You know, it's just
here shout out to.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Make dojo life. Go investigate.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh yeah, it was. It was ridiculous, But I moved on.
I ended up actually at one of Chuck Norris's studios,
and I got to work with him and a couple
of his guys for you know, about five or six years.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
Chuck.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Chuck would actually come in, you know, five six times
a year and work with us and stuff. But it
was I had the good experience. I mean I was
around these guys all the time. We were on travel teams,
we went to tournaments, and none of us, I mean
I still talk to those guys, none of us had
those experiences. There are good coaches out there, There are
(22:20):
good people out there who care. But you know, man,
you got it as a parent, you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
So you got into film, you got into martial arts,
and somehow you just edged past those bad guys and
one of them was living in your back hand. I
don't know how. I'm glad you did That'll you have
some seriously repressed memories like.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
What, I'll tell you it. I don't believe I do.
I've been you know, in recovery and therapy and all
those kinds of things many many times over. But I'll
tell you he still groomed us in the same way.
Nothing may have happened, but everything that Drake talks about
(23:03):
that he did to ingratiate himself into Drake's family's life,
he did with us.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
So you were the test run.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I don't know what it is, but yeah, he did
every last little thing. Was. It was really creepy to
watch the documentary because I was just like, wait a minute,
wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, I
mean everything with you?
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, Well that's they do. They practice, they poke, they
test the waters. So now that we've talked about those
horrible things, I do a horrible thing.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
It does remind me of the Justin Bieber situation with
P Diddy and all that, that's one emulates.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, well that was tragic. Shout out to Justin Bieber's
having a baby.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, congratulations, congrats.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
So one of the things, uh, I got wayside tracked.
I wanted to ask you about before we got on
this awful topic, which actually is a really good segue
into this that's terrible. It's even worse. Well, you were
a child actor, you know, your family issues and stuff
were pretty heavily publicized and all of that. What do
(24:12):
you think of the YouTube families where they're pulling their
kids in and that's where they're making their money now,
is off their kids. Sorry, I just want to be
as controversial as no.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
I'm honestly, I'm an open book and I'm good with
talking about it. I don't like it very much. Now,
let me have a caveat there there are kids who
want to do this. There are kids who are natural
born performers. You know, I was one of those. I
was at four years old up on grandma and Grandpa's
pool table, telling stories and telling jokes to their friends.
(24:42):
And so there are children who are like that who
are going to want to make skits and do things.
But the problem is, like anything, you're going to get
a lot of these parents who are doing it because
they want to, and they're making their kids do this,
and they're profiting on off of them. Don't I don't
like that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
The Kigen rules don't apply to YouTube, to any of that,
so they don't even have to put the well.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Unfortunately, the Cougan rules only apply in five states anyway,
so it's not a national law. So that's one of
the one of the reasons why you know, eighty percent
of the work is being done outside of Los Angeles
and California and all the other places that have the
Cougan law because they don't have the child protection laws,
(25:31):
they don't have the work hour laws for the kids.
They can take these kids to other states and work
them sixteen hours. They can take their money. They can't.
You know. I'm sorry, that's a soapbox issue for me.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
Is my next production.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
I'm like, the fact that it is not a national
law is infuriating.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, it is. The It's it's really really terrible. One
of the reasons I avoid working with children and I
do you know a ton of reality television I make
very few exceptions. I made an exception with like Queen
of Temecula, because I'm comfortable with the family. I'm comfortable
the mother came from entertainment and is very protective of
her children, so that made me a lot more comfortable.
(26:11):
But in general, I'm not a fan of working with
children at all if I can help it. For that reason.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
So if a parent came up to you and said
I want my child famous doing it, that.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Happens every fucking day. Sorry, that happens to me. Every
I had to move, they followed my child home.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I feel you, I really do. It's everybody, every mother,
every parent, every person I meet. How do I get
my kids in? How do I do? You know? And
I tell them the same thing that I kind of
guided with my kids. I'm like, unless they are dying
to do this, unless they can see nothing else, and
(26:48):
all they want is this, keep them the hell away
from this business. I tell them the same thing every time.
And that's what I told my boys. It's not that
I wouldn't have supported them if they wanted it. You know,
if they were just dreaming about it and wanting it,
I would have absolutely supported him. But you know, my oldest,
when he was about sixteen, came to me and said, hey, Dad,
(27:09):
I think I maybe want to give this acting thing
a try. So I sat him down and I said, well,
first of all, let me explain to you what that entails.
So you're not playing football anymore. I said, you're not
going on dates anymore. I said, you're going to go
to school. I'm going to pick you up from school,
or your mom's going to pick you up from school.
We are going to drive you to interviews while you
(27:30):
do homework in the car. We're going to sit in
traffic pretty much all day when we'll run you to interview.
After interview, you're going to finish your homework in the car.
If it's not finished, you're going to do it while
you eat dinner. Then you're going to shower. We're going
to rinse and repeat. And we're going to do this
five days a week, every single day, every single week.
I said, your only free time will be on the weekends,
and that's if they don't call you in for a
(27:50):
weekend interview, which happens about three times a month. And
he just got this look on his face and he said,
you know, Dad, I think I'll stick with football, I said,
probably a smart idea. You know, this is this is
not a lark, you know what I mean, It's it's
not there's a really tough business. This business eats children
for breakfast. I was very lucky. I mean, the fact
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that I came out only with alcoholism is a freaking miracle,
it really is. And it only goes to speak to,
you know, the strength of my family and the people
around me who took care of me and kept me
protected and kept a head on my shoulders. But this
business eats kids for breakfast. And you know, unless a
kid is just absolutely obsessed dreaming about it once it
(28:33):
knows this is all they want to do. And very
few kids at six years old know that. You know,
I think you should keep your kids the hell away
from this business.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Well, you know, considering that our show is supposed to
be eighteen plus, which means you probably have quite a
few fourteen to fifteen year olds listening in, especially the
ones I unfortunately that listen on my life streams too
and end up going to listen to the show.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Kids, I think it's important that they kind of understand
as well, why you say that you only fell into alcoholism.
Would you mind explaining a little bit of that aspect
of your journey.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Absolutely. Now, the main trauma that I dealt with that
the alcoholism kind of stemmed from, was a sexual abuse
and mental and physical abuse from the stepfather. That was
the main trauma. But being a kid actor, I was
not equipped to deal with anything. At five years old,
(29:26):
I started working. I didn't get to learn. I didn't
get to grow up. I didn't get to learn to
be a kid. I didn't get to learn to process anything.
I literally went from five years old to you have
to be a professional. You have to act like a professional,
carry yourself as an adult, get your job done, be
on time. Nothing else developed. You're focused on completely other things.
(29:49):
Now you know what I'm saying. I was unprepared for life.
I mean just unprepared because I didn't know what real
life was. It's not that I was pampered or catered
to or anything else. I mean I had chores at home,
and you know, this was a time ago, and it
was okay to give your kid a swat, and believe me,
if I mouthed off, I was going to get one.
(30:09):
I had a very normal life. But growing up on set,
you have a different focus. Your whole development is thrown
out of whack. And I when it came time to
deal with trauma, when it came time to deal with
just life on life's terms, I was completely unequipped. I
had no life skills whatsoever. So when trauma started happening,
(30:34):
I didn't know how to deal. I didn't know where
to go, I didn't know who to go to. I
didn't know what to do with it. And I found Hey,
alcohol shuts that down pretty good. You know that anxiety
I'm feeling all the time, all of a sudden, it
goes away. I'm nice and calm. I can carry myself
with some confidence. And that's how it began for me.
(30:56):
I may be genetically disposed. I've never had an off switch.
I did actually start drinking at like four years old.
That's not a joke. Mom says it was around six.
Grandma said it was four. But after Grandma and Grandpa's parties.
I would go around and finish the last SIPs of beer.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
That would screw with your wiring pretty good.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I'm sure it probably did language development stage of you,
of your life.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I can't how to speak. You know.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
We usually talk about people drinking young and saying, well,
your frontal lobes not developed, but your wasn't developed.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, and I I didn't. I mean it's not like
it was a regular thing. It didn't happen all the time,
but it happened enough that it was a running story
in my childhood and family and didn't stop until I
came across a butt can, which cured me of that real,
real quick.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Now a mouthful of cigarette ash will do that.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Oh yeah. I From that point on, any time I drank,
it was always to excess. I mean always, there was
never an off switch for me. So I do honestly
believe that I am genetically wired for alcoholism, addiction, whatever
you want to call it. I never had that off switch.
(32:15):
I mean, at twelve years old, I went to the
beach with one of the producer's nephews. He had a
volleyball wear company, and this is when beach volleyball was
going blowing up in the eighties, and we went down
to one of the biggest beach volleyball opens down in
Hermosa Beach. We spent the day on the beach drinking beer.
Then we went to parties like all night. And I'm
(32:36):
twelve years old, and I'm pounding beers, you know, to
the point where I got sick, really sick. And then
now most kids, you'd go and puke your guts out
horrifically from drinking thirty beers over the course of the day.
What do you do? You go curl up in a ball.
I went back to the cooler.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Damn man, my brother still don't drink tequila from the
time he vomited on adult.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Yeah, that's a normal person. I went back right back
to the cooler, right, so again, I just never had
that off switch. And once I began self medicating with
the alcohol, Like I said, none of that before as
an excuse. I I just was unequipped to deal. And
I chose alcohol as my as my coping mechanism. And
(33:23):
it went south very very quickly. I mean I maintained
for a long time, that's for sure, but I start
got to the point where I needed a drink on
a regular basis very very quickly. I was carrying around
a flask. It was. It was pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Wow, that's all.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
And I asked my next question out of that, do
you tell me if I'm prying too deep at anymore?
What do you what are your what was your parents
and grandparents perspective to get you off for the helping
this happen, like what was.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Well, you have to understand this was a different time.
This was the seventies early eighties. My grand father used
to be able to take me to the bar with
him and set me on the bar. He'd get me
a Shirley Temple and he'd drink beers and vodka with
his friends. That was normal. A cop could walk in
and it would not have been a problem. This was
(34:14):
a very different time. My grandparents were functional seventies alcoholics
who had alcohol around the house all the time, but
who were also the type of people who never missed
a day of work, never missed a car payment, were responsible,
got their work done. But you could bet by five
oh five they had their butts in their favorite bar seat.
(34:35):
You know, that's what I was raised as normal. You know,
that's kind of what I was around. So it was
kind of a joke, you know, it was a running
family story that was funny that I was the kid
who ran around and drank all the beers. It didn't
become a tragic part of the story until later when
(34:58):
everybody realized, oh crap, he has a real problem.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
Yeah, I've gone a little too far in the deep. Bet.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I guess, well, it's one of those things. They didn't
catch the red flag when it was a red flag,
so I'm a problem. Later they went it was a red.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Flag, right.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
And there are a lot of cultures where people drink
like that. Like I'm joking in saying Australia's like that,
but it's still like that. That's how it is. You
are there, it's how everyone drinks. It's normal.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Well that's again, I don't think I could ever normally.
I have a feeling, I have a wiring issue, chemical issue,
whatever it is. I could never have been a normal drinker.
But I am a big believer in the fact that,
because I've seen the data, the cultures who have normalized
drinking have a much lower rate of alcoholism among their youth. Yes,
(35:47):
it's not used as a rebellious exactly exactly. My friends
who are Jewish who were raised drinking wine at a
young age at the satyr and it pass over and
it's not some mysterious thing to them that they're dying
to try and experiment with and all this other stuff.
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
I think it's we need to be very clear.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Though.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
It's also very different than you know, you're talking about
being four and six.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I mean, that's is a big difference.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
You know, we're talking about teenage binge drinking. That is
not I mean, it's awful, but it's not comparable to
a child that young.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Not.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
But I'm so into Sorry, I'm curious to you mentioned
that you made a decision to kind of mitigate with
the alcohol, I mean medicate.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Did you punch yesterday?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (36:33):
Is it really fair to say that, I mean, you
were twelve. How could you have made that decision for
yourself at twelve years old?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Well, that wasn't when I started really drinking. That was
just a fun experiment. It was later on when my
anxiety disorder really kind of set in, when the trauma
from my abuse really kind of unearthed itself from my psyche.
That all started coming out around seven teen years old
(37:00):
or so, okay, and that was around the time that
I started experimenting more with alcohols, started sneaking more, and
by eighteen I was regularly carrying a flask.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I do have to say, I'm not sure that counts
is an experiment. Most twelve year olds, you're experimenting with
like vinegar and baking soda. It's not like that. It's
not quite what I would call that was on the
producer's partner, on the person that I owned this company,
I say, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, a
(37:34):
child abuse. There are lots of woods I would use
for it.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Oh yeah, but again, and I'm not saying it makes
it okay, But it was just a very different time.
It really was. I mean, you're talking about a time,
and yes it was horrible, but you're talking about a
time where people were letting Drew Barrymore into New York
night clubs at nine years old. People didn't blink at
doing this stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yep, it was but she ended up mangled, I mean.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Ended up bad. I'm not defending it in any way.
I'm just trying to make it. You understand that it
was a very different time. There was a very different mindset,
and people did not take things as seriously. They didn't
see the ramifications as clearly as they do now. So
it was just it was a really weird and different time.
(38:22):
I mean, the fact that I regularly sat on a
barstool and hustled pool with my grandfather at six years
old in a bar. He'd be arrested nowadays, but it
was nothing anybody blinked at back then.
Speaker 6 (38:40):
Right and you know, well, you know now obviously were
a dark topic, but I think it was essential get
it as people who may not understand what the industry
can do for you, especially if you're aready dealing with
some type of past trauma as well.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
But you look at what it's done to women. You
look what it's done to men. You look what it's
done to gay men. I still I dated for a
very long time. Like when he and I started dating,
everyone thought he was gay because I spent and I
mean in the industry, because I was like a beard
for half of the NBA and NFL, because it's not
cool for them to be gay.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
We impressed that.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
So I started dating him. They're like, oh, gay cage fighter.
I'm like no, I'm actually dating him. Like come on,
you're like a little bit bullshit. I'm like no, really,
I saw it. We lived together. God damn it.
Speaker 6 (39:25):
Like it was not good, would be a bit hostile
to different people and different types of people.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
It is, but look what it's done to women. Like,
you know, I was really lucky. I came up onto
people that were very protective. I was really lucky. It
sounds like not with your stepfather, but with the industry,
you were lucky. And I hate to say that that's
what it is, but not having things like that happen.
Like I started a Victoria's Secret when I was sixteen,
I could have gone horrible. It could have been horrible.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Absolutely. One of my very dear friends started acting at
about fourteen or so, and by sixteen years old. Now
she was a well developed girl young and by sixteen
she had already had five or six different producers try
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and get her to take her top off in an audition.
Oh yeah, I'm talking about a fourteen and fifteen year
old girl.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Here, look at I mean we have we're talking Wiltram.
At the beginning of the show about the YouTube's Tanamonjo,
she was seventeen and Codyko slept with her after being
told by Gabby Hamnah, that chicks seven.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
You know she's a kid five time too.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, she's a kid. Like it's not it's a catch
twenty two. I think it depends on who you come
in under and the protection you have anyone looked at me.
My mom was screaming jailbait when I was sixteen, and
you know, I was legal in Australia but not here,
and so you know, she used that to keep everyone
the hell away from me. And then by the time
(40:54):
I was like seventeen, I started at sixteen. I was
working for the president of Viacom at that point as
an intern, so no one would have screwed with me.
Then I just very very very lucky, and I could
put it that way. And with the man you had
in your house, good God, Like the lucky is the
understand that, oh.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, it didn't go that side of it didn't go
real well. But I was I was lucky in that
I was very protected on set. My family was always there,
and during the time when my mother was having my
younger brothers, she wasn't able to be on set. I
had other people looking out for me. I had my
(41:34):
set teacher who I was very close to, Millie, who
you know, kept a very close eye on me. I
had Alan and Joanna, you know, who played my mom
and dad on the show, who were my second set
of parents. I mean they both whipped my butt when
I was young. You know it was that they put
me in my place when they needed to, But I
was always looked out for, so I was protected on set,
(41:58):
and I was very lucky key for that, especially knowing
what I know now and that I was working with
two very very dangerous pedophiles. Sorry Kitty Touchers.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
Yeah, YouTube's worried about that for some reason. To watch.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
Spot, you seem to have come out of it all
pretty blame well managed. I'm sure you let a learn
a lot, go through a lot.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
He can act, you can act normal. We don't know
if he's okay.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
I don't act that well anymore. I've done a lot
of recovery work, That's really the truth. There's there's only
one reason I'm anywhere close to where I am now,
and that's because I'm sober and I've done the work.
Speaker 5 (42:42):
You know.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I've done a lot of soul searching, a lot of
self reflection. I've I am probably one of the more
self aware human beings on this planet. I I have
pinpointed damn near every fault, and every moment I see
it pop up, I do whatever I can to try
and push it back and go the opposite direction. One
(43:03):
of the things I lived my life by now is
something called contrary action. You know, whatever I don't want
to do, that's what I'm doing. You know that's an
anxiety thing. If I don't want to do it, then
I know I need to get it done. I need
I know that's what I need to be working on.
There's just a lot of different things that I've learned
to manage my life, to manage my addiction, to manage
(43:26):
my anxiety, and it's taken a lot of work. I
don't I don't personally like medicine because I get a
lot I get. I'm the guy who gets every side
effect that they have on the list. That's me. It
doesn't matter what it is. I'm the guy who gets
every side effect on the list. So I hate taking meds.
(43:46):
I've done all the anxiety meds and all the different stuff.
I've tried to do the medical route, and anybody who
needs that, I am not telling you not to do that.
I'm not a doctor. Do not listen to me. Listen
to your doctor. If he says you need it, take
your damn medicine. You know. I've seen it happen in recovery.
There's guys who say, who want to tell people you're
not sober if you're on you know, prescription meds from
(44:08):
your doctor, you know for psych meds and things like that.
I've seen guys stop the meds and kill themselves within
three days because some dumb ass opened their mouth and
tried to be a doctor and tried to say, well,
you don't need that and you're not sober, so if
you're going to be sober, you have to stop. These
(44:28):
people are dead within three days most of the time
if they stop. So I'm not telling anybody not to
do it, but for me, they don't work. So I've
had to do all of this naturally. I've had to
do all of this with feet on the ground work.
I've had to find ways to manage it. I've had
to find techniques. I've had to find things to meditate
to calm myself. There's a lot of things I do
(44:50):
to keep myself okay, man.
Speaker 5 (44:53):
Thank you for adding along with that story. I think
we're adding in the caveat of please listen to your
doctors that could shop.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
It can be really miscontrure. Like a talking amount of
people don't say that, even on this show where the
one is usually jumping into the caveat of me into
a medical.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
No, medical professionals don't listen to us that that's a
huge core tenant of recovery. It really is is we
are not doctors.
Speaker 5 (45:17):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
That's I'm not here to tell anybody else anything medical.
I can tell you how I got sober. I can
tell you what I do to stay okay up here,
but I can't tell you what you need medically. You know.
It's just it's not my place. And I I I
do what I do because I know how those things
affect me. I have family in my life that do
(45:40):
take medication that it works wonders for.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I'd like to know we're talking about something serious. Usually
the most medical advice we get on here is, like us, lubricant,
So it's really nice to talk about something.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
That's wonderful advice as well. But I'm just.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Saying, like, it's nice to talk about something that could
actually positively benefit people for chains. We usually time out,
you know, don't get punched in the head and get CTE.
So we have about four minutes of the show left.
Can you please tell everyone where to find you on
social media so they can continue the conversation with you.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
You can find me on Facebook at Jeremy James Miller,
and you can find me on Instagram at the real
Jeremy Miller.
Speaker 4 (46:22):
You need to get on TikTok and see all the
growing kind stelle Like, really.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I know, I know, and everybody is. I've been hammered
by my best friend, my old podcast partner, and my fiance. It's, honestly,
right now a self help thing for me. I have
too many things sucking up my time already and my attention,
and I'm trying to stay focused on all the other
things I'm doing these projects I'm working on. So getting
(46:49):
another thing that I got to start posting with that's
going to start drawing my attention that I'm gonna start
scrolling through it two in the morning when my insomnia.
It's just not something I need right now.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
That's fair.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
Speaking of those projects, what are some things that people
can look forward to seeing from you?
Speaker 2 (47:06):
So this television show I'm working on is called Angel.
I play the one of the lead characters, Partner. I'm
a detective. That should be out sometime. I believe the
first episode of season two will be premiering. I want
to say by the end of the year. Beginning of
next year. I don't know the network for sure, like
I said, but I believe it. It's premiere on beet,
(47:29):
so I'm hoping that that's where the second season will be.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
I'm going to tell everyone Distro's really messed up right now.
Between the pandemic and a bunch of strikes, things are shifting,
Things are being sold, things are being and things are
being put out off season wall. Usually we could tell
you like, oh, this day, this day, this day, like
this is wind, stuff's put out. He's right, it's really
myles right now.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
I've had my sal show have like two seasons on
Hulu and then the third seasons on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
Yeah, it's getting a little weird at the moment. But
if if you want to be able to follow it
and you want to see exactly where it's coming out,
just following me on one of my social medias, I'll
post everything that's going to be coming up where it's
going to be. I also have three movies that are
just getting their financing back after the strike. You'll love this.
We got green lit two weeks before the strike for
(48:18):
all three films. I've been trying to get these gone
for seven years, seven years. We got green lit two
weeks before the strike and then held on to our
financing until three weeks before the strike ended and the
financers had to pull it.
Speaker 4 (48:33):
I tell you, if you want to know who to
blame for the strike and the pandemic, Rachel Alexander. She
wrote Receiver of Money. Hear me out. I'm doing her show.
We're talking to Stars and BBC right now. I think Stars.
I'm pushing for bb six. I want to go to Australia.
We were set with HBO before the pandemic. We have
reset this book so many times, and then the book
(48:53):
got ripped off like four different times. And now she's
been lossuits first and we're doing this. But I'm telling you,
every time we move ahead with hers, something happens.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I feel you.
Speaker 4 (49:03):
We decided we're going to do an animated intro to
her show, and now the animation strike. So if you
want to send hate mail, it's to Rachel Alexander. Many
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Saying I love it. Financing, so yeah, I'm working on those,
and then I'm also actually going to be doing some
of my first directing on some children's shorts for European television.
I'm working with a company that does these wonderful puppets
for kids and stuff, and we're going to be producing
some children's television for these five different channels in Europe.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Like Henson style puppets or.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Actually they are sock puppets. Everyone has a different character
and you know.
Speaker 4 (49:46):
So neither Jim Hanson, no creepy, a whole new like
soft puppets.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
What made you decide to do so? But that's really cool.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
It actually is already in development. I met a wonderful
guy named Rob who had these character He's a lifelong
puppeteer and he's also a philanthropist and he saw a
chance to start doing these puppets. He wants each puppet
kind of has a message he focuses on, like the
old beatitudes of treating people well, and it's just kind
(50:16):
of the old school stuff that we were taught that
we want to start teaching kids again. And he's using
the puppets to do that, and the profits from that
he's turning around in different charities that he supports. So
it just was a wonderful project for me to get
involved with. And I kind of I've always liked puppets
and I think they're really kind of cool. So I
(50:37):
got really excited doing it. And so anyway, I'm going
to be directing some of those shorts, and he was wonderful.
I also, I have a reality kind of thing that
I'm trying to get moving at the moment. I can't
give you too much detail, but it is based around
engagements and it would be called Finally and it's something
(50:58):
that I've been trying to put together with my fiance
for quite a while.
Speaker 4 (51:02):
I like that.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (51:03):
So yeah, I got a lot of things in the
fire at the moment. Please follow me on one of
my well on one of the social media sites if
you want to see what's coming up and where it's
going to be.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
Follow him on the social media sites and tell me
about the poppets. Tell me if they're creepy before I watch.
All right, thank you so much for joining us. I
really appreciate all of your insight and it's great to
see a functional adult that came from a child acting Ali.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Thank you. It was great talking with both of you.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Thank you for joining us on the show.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Take Care by Guys.
Speaker 4 (51:34):
I'm Summer Helene.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
Oh is it my okay? I'm bear Fjorda. It usually
she says both our names. Make me say my own name.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
This is behind the scenes.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
This has been behind the scenes with Summer, Helene and
Bear Fjorda only on talk for media.
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