January 31, 2025 • 56 mins
Join Summer Helene and Bear Fiorda on Behind the Scenes as they chat with Joe “Daddy” Stevenson, UFC veteran, coach, and MMA legend. Hear his journey from the octagon to training the next generation of fighters!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
Welcome to behind the Scenes for you're half asked entertainment
news with no bullshit with our hosts, The Baroness and
Bear Fiorda, only on Talk four Media.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to behind the Scenes. I'm your host, the Baroness
Summa Helene, and this.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is pink panties and I am Bear Fjorda.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
No pink panties. Why saying that, because that was my testing.
It was testing testing Bear West pink panties.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's the testing for the audio testing.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Then I went to make fun of Bear fort and
found out he was not wearing underwear. So that is
an ongoing argument.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know, there is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It never wears underwear.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
No, I'm going to go back to it. It's just clothed.
They're all clothing. They're all cold. As long as you're
not nude publicly, if you're on your own space, you
do you then that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's all I've said. There's no problem with it. No
one can judge you. You are not running.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Around the streetsing you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You don't have to. You're choosing.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
He's not wearing underwear. He doesn't wear pants when we
do the show, and now he's not wearing underwear.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Listen, we can do an only fans who are like
bare Field and not wearing underwear. Just me in these shorts.
It's true, but it's misleading. It is, and I can
eat more cereal.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It is. It is. Let's not do only fans. So
you did have a mate that wants to do only fans?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, shout out.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
By the way, he's one of my favorite people. He's
funny as hell.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Former UFC fighter, great fighter. They shouldn't have dropped him
for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
They did numbers, but I told him get his social
media up, he'll go back to UFC. Well, he was
talking about wanting to do only fans with his wife.
She is not down for it, but she's a smoke
shot like his.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Wife's and his think if she was I'm sure, they'd
actually do pretty good at it. But as it stands
around now, she's like, if you're gonna do it all? No,
she says, she can't even.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Do it, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I know he's in a time out. Well, what's funny
about it is now she's a smoke show. She's got
a great little body, and she's got a really girl
next door kind of features. She's really cute, she's got
like a kind of.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I still think calling someone girl next door just sounds
like it sounds insulting. Now that it is insulting, he
comes across like insulting.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It reminds me of when someone calls you homely.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You know, no homely means ugly. Girl next door is
like Natalie Portman is going next door and Hathwaite.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You call her by her actual name, may Amidala.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Thank you girl next door.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh man, you know I've.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Never been I've been never been so not attracted to
a man as I was in that moment. Do you
know who I just thought about you in pink panties.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm just like you know who else can never escape
their roles? Daniel Radcliffe, He is incredible. He did a
movie called Imperium where he's playing a undercounter undercover FBI agent.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So you're following make sure you're following Jared Vendera.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Make sure you're following Jared Vendera.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We're going to do only fans and leave Harry Potter alone.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, I'm not. He did great and whenever he does
something in another movie, everyone just just plays the joke
of like, oh no, he's actually like, no, this is
a wizard. Why is why is Harry Potter going undercover
in this Arian brotherhood a game? What is happening?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I think my favorite with him is that during the
Coast Child, Yes, and they're like, you know, but who oh, no,
for sure, but they're bringing back the original cars. They're
all the agent, they're supposed to be the parents and
things now and everyone cannot get over the fact that
Harry Potter is old enough to be at all Harry Potter.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now that's really it. And here's the thing. Everything he does,
people just rip on him as if he's still Harry,
which I find hilarious, by the way, not like he doesn't.
He rolls with the punches ball, he plays into it,
you know what I'm saying. He went on an interview
recently and they're like, so, well, what is it like
transitioning from Harry Potter to other TV shows?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It was like, well, you know, once I accepted that
I am Harry Potter became really easy. What do you
mean you accept Harry Potter?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Well, I thought I was just an actor playing a wizard,
but it turns out I was a wizard playing an
actor playing and playing a wizard.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And he just he keeps that going through all this
other stuff. I think he did well. Yes, he'll always
be kind of like type casted as far as acting
goes like, oh, this will always be Harry Potter. He
can also really he knows how to play it well
whoever's telling him how to do his stuff as far
as media and public relations go. If you're a very intelligent,
move right there. I'm so distracted by you pouring d
(04:38):
Is it hot?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It is nice and hot.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a dirty chi yeah, very clearly dirty chat tee.
There's some coffee in there.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It looks like it's really good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, you enjoy your tea, would like.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You should probably hold it all.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's fine, it is, that's weird. It's gotta got an
odd aftertaste. I'm sorry about that. I'm sure it's very good.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's port. We just needed up the Starbucks I poured
it in.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Okay, back back to what we're saying earlier, though, if
Daniel Radcliffe did a did.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A only fans, what do you think his name would be?
Oh that's so good. That's his hash. Yeah, he's got
his that's his catchphrase.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He's got what do you think his name would be?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So instead of the boy who live, it's you can't
really say this, must say the boy who came. But
that doesn't work. So you got to be like the
man who came or something. Don't look at me like that.
Anyone can make that mistake.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, Prince Andre.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Mean wait, I thought he wasn't like convicted, No he was.
He was in the vicinity. It may have been an.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Accident off Epstein Island.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Please, we never were on Epstein Island. Don't you seem
to be it's talking with Andrew.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Who's the one talking about boys?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's not nice? Just saying, you know, and speaking of
other inappropriate things in news. What about the whole Baldoni
and Blake Lively thing?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Oh yes, she's a bit yeah, well quick shout out
this is so I can say this because I'm not consulting. Clearly,
they do not have a media strategist consulting.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They really do. I'm sure they do, but they're like, no,
you're not telling me what I want to hear. So
you're they need it.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, they need a decent spin doctor. Basically, they needed
some emergency pr She needs to come out, she needs
to apologize. She tried to do what so so so
anyone knows. She pulled the same move that Ryan Reynolds
pulled with Deadpool. What he did is he took the role,
He took it for less money than he should, took
a producer's credit, it sort of took over production and
(07:02):
then by Deadpool too, he was in charge. She tried
to pull the same thing on this. Now here's where
the fly in the ointment. People think it's because no,
they think it's because she was trying to nail Baldoni,
well trying to if she was trying to, Yeah, but
he finds her repellent. Then she used Taylor Swift and
(07:22):
she basically threatened him with her super famous husband and
her super famous friend. Well, of course, Taylor Swift isn't stupid.
She's bailed, like, she's out. She's not risking her career
for this chick who's using her as a threat without
her permission.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I don't see where she thought this was going
to go. I get it in to convince enough people
to believe that Baldoni's bad enough to get him to
lose projects and everything, But at the end of the day,
there was going to come out the information. The texts
were there.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
She thought he would save so Baldoni could have outed
her ages go shout out Sniffy thought could have outed
her from the beginning. But he actually covered up for her.
He cared enough about the project that he was willing
to put up with the bullshit. You know, he and
his family sat in the basement during the premiere, Like
he really put up with a lot of ball to
(08:09):
save the project. But she pushed it too far. Once
she got to sexual harassment, he was like, we're done.
Here are the receipts. Pretty much, she didn't realize things
like when she was talking about there being no sound
on that dancing scene, she didn't realize there was sound.
Of course he recorded, and so all these things that
she was saying, she didn't realize there were receipts. So
(08:33):
she made a calculated move, a business move. She did
it wrong. What she has to do now is come
out and apologize. And if I was her spin doctor,
I would say this. Come out, say look, I came
from Hollywood. I obviously read this wrong. You know, I
started in Hollywood at a young age. I dealt with
a lot of predators. Obviously, because of what's happened to
(08:54):
me throughout my life, I've become very sensitive to it.
So she's still making herself the victim, saying I'm very
sensitive to it. I read I read Justin's intentions wrong.
I want to apologize to Justin his family, and I
personally am going to make a donation to women's abuse funds.
I misstepped. I misstepped in all of this. I shouldn't
(09:15):
have been promoting my Betty Buzz, my alcohol brand in
conjunction with domestic violence, my hair products. I treated this
like it was a regular film when I wasn't. I
wasn't respectful to the fans, I wasn't respectful about Donie.
I'm sorry, and I'd like to do part two. I'd
like to do the prequel or sequel. I'd like to
be a part of it, and I'd like to donate
my salary to charity. If she pulls that, if she apologizes,
(09:36):
if she blames it on her reading it wrong, not
saying she did it on purpose trying to steal a film,
blames it, I'm reading it wrong, donates her salary and
steps back in. She'll went the public back to her.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Here's the one problem with all of that and why
she won't do it, because her immediate thought is going
to go, no, what I said is right. Am. My
husband's Ryan Reynolds. So if you don't agree with me,
you're not going to work in Hollywood. That's her.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
That's what's going to stop her from doing any smart
move because in her brain, she's right. Even though she
knows she's lying, she's right. Why are these people not
believing me? My I am believable and my husband's lying.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Here's the thing. She's never been likable. She's always been
a bully, she's always been problematic, and everyone, well, everyone
covered it up. They covered it up on Gossip Girl
because they wanted the show to do well. They covered
it up on Sister to the Traveling Pants and then
interviews where she's been a bitch. They've kind of shortened
it and covered it, so she's always been covered for
(10:28):
then she's when she got caught, she'd make it like
she was making a joke and she was just awkward.
When she had the affair with Ryan Reynolds on Green Lantern,
Scarlett Johansson didn't want to get embroiled in a scandal,
so she didn't advertise the fact that you know, they
were divorcing because she was cheated on. So it was,
it was, and it was a very similar situation to
(10:51):
the Ariana Grande, just without the baby. Meaning Blake Lively
had met and talked to Scarlet Johanson. Scarlett had come
to say she played buddy buddy with her engineiled the
husband in a hotel during production.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So they met on a set of a movie. The
met on Green Lantern. Well, when your movie tanks and
that's where you met, you're a fair partner. That's just
got to be the biggest red fly, like the biggest
ole man. You start cheating on your way and then
your movie like I had a terrible return.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm sorry. I do think that for sure, that is
a bad omen. You should have read into that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I think something they should I was looking to see
if Fudjo Daddy was on got it. I think something
they should consider is, I know everyone's thinking it's because
just because Ryan Reynolds is jealous, right, his wife and
he started as an affair. They were both in other relationships.
(11:49):
It's very reasonable for people to be jealous at that
point because if you start as an affair, you'll always
think that the other person's going to cheat on you.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's always going to be and that's what she was
seemed to be going for.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It does seem like she might have been hitting on BALTONI,
or at least looking for that attention while her husband
was away shooting.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, but here's the thing. But then again, Jackman was
cheating on his wife, and that was a shocker because
they were the you know, the Hollywood standard, and he
was cheating on his wife and the woman he left
his wife for. So, you guys know, absolutely foul human being.
Like she was a full on salker, if you guys,
if you guys go back through her history, she orchestrated this,
(12:29):
she got involved like she.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Is a bad.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like it was amazing impressive really, so you know, blessed
Jackman's wife. I hope she does well without him. She
deserved better. But I there's there's no good segue, because
from terrible men to wonderful men, I'd like to welcome
to the show Joe Daddy Stevenson, the nicest guy in
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m m A.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Everyone get Yeah, where did you find him?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Honey? Oh that is a pretty baby.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
His name is Leroy, Hi LeRoi. He eats raw meat
and regular hard food and is is spoiled.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Sphinx.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, it's a hairless sphinx.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Oh my god, that is so cute. I love sphinx.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I feel like he's really dirty right now, so I
probably shouldn't let him on my lap. But the bedroom
in the bedroom is his domain. I can't if I
push him away, he just start walking in and bumping
into the phone.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, he's a very welcome guest. How long have you
had lee Ry? Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Seven years? Oh yeah, he's he's he was the run
of the litter and he uh. The sphinx cats they
feel like velvet like. I guess that's a nice way
to describe them. And they even get some hair like.
He had a little bit of winter like fuzz that
came over certain areas that's gone now. And they let's
(14:26):
see they they are supposed to most of like these
cats have to be like oiled almost because their skin.
He doesn't require that I did something special about him.
You have to bathe them a lot because they lose
like toes and fingers because they can get dirty easy,
I guess. But he doesn't really fall into that category.
(14:50):
He uh, he feels like he's a lion, you know,
he's He's ran once one time when we took him
outside to see a horse, so we've never let him
out again. So he thinks that he is like this
this beast, like a leopard order and to dogs, he'll
(15:12):
treat them like that. And it is really cool to
see him develop like and now he's like older. I
think cats like age, not like dogs kind of dogs
are like every seven years or something, but cats are
a little bit older. I feel we give him nothing
but like really clean water and lots of love. They
(15:34):
say that the cat purrs are supposed to be a
frequency to help you, like heal. Yeah, he purves so
much every day of his life. It's because of how
much attention he gets. So he's probably healed. And then
a lot of times they'll jump on you in per
and he does it like every night for you.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I love that. There's an old saying it. Some dogs
look at people, and people feed them, clean up their poop,
they walk them, and dogs will look at a person
and go they must be God. A cat looks at
you and goes. He feeds me, he walks me, he
changes my litter. I must be God. You can see,
you can see why the Egyptians worship them. Like, he
(16:14):
looks so you know, he just the way he'ding there. Yeah,
he looks so regal.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's exactly. I believe some of the Egyptians actually even
lost army, lost wars and battles because cats. The threat
of the cats being murdered and killed.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I can't remember which strapped cats to their their forward.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Shields and then and then Egyptians were like.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
No worn, you know, speaking of wars, but more on
the individual standpoint. You've been in combat sports now for years,
coaching fighting. How did I what's kind of like the background,
what got you started?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
How did you get into that? I'm just stuck on
the cat. I'm sorry, I was like, I want his cat.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I started fighting after watching watching wrestlers from my local
area compete like Dan Henderson, and I was like, man,
I'd like to test myself. I was already doing like judo,
jiu jitsu and wrestling, and so I stepped into my
very first professional fight at the age of at sixteen.
(17:21):
It was at in a Norco Eastville area down off
the fifteen at what used to be a driving range
now at soccer fields. I had on those very same
card fighters like Carl Parisian, my friend Nick Laquette, and
Victor Hudsinger and a bunch of really tough guys competing.
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Jean LaBelle was my referee, and it was a really
amazing experience. I wanted to see if I was any
good at it. I think you have to understand what
you're doing it for. You know, you have to define
why you are training, and you've got to use competition
(18:02):
as a measuring stick not only just for you, but
also for real life application. You know, like if I'm
training martial arts to defend myself and people, I love
what happens when it really happens, And then more times
you put yourself in those situations, the easier it is
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to react properly, and it's easier on the street to
fight because you're not fighting somebody that's trained to kick
your butt, you know, who's not watching tape on you
and checking out your flaws. And so that's what kind
of happened to me was I wanted to see where
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I fit in the pecking order and see how everything
panned out. And then after after learning that I was
okay at it. I think I won my first two fights,
and then I lost my next two fights. I had
lost to Jens Pulver, who would go on to win
the belt that next year in the UFC, and I
lost to Pat Militic, who had just fought and lost
(19:08):
for the belt in the UFC. And then I started
my senior year.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Wow, I'm like, that's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Is there a reason why you jumped right into pro?
Do they not have an amateur division back at the
time it was.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Just in the nineties, there was no amateur division. And
on top of that, you know, I think I had
a bad coach and not necessarily bad technique, but he
wasn't equipped at the time because he was still learning.
You know, it's difficult to he was also training and
(19:44):
fighting in the UFC. He had two fights and When
you do that, it's difficult to train and coach others.
And when you're learning, you're trying things out on your students,
and he was just not as ex experienced. And back
in the day, it was more or less honestly about
(20:04):
measuring yourself. You know, there was no really protecting your
record and trying to to be undefeated. There was you know,
if you're undefeated, you weren't fighting the right people. Whereas now,
if you're undefeated, you're you're considered like the pounds for pound,
it's really arguable to say just because you're undefeated that
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you're one of the best of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, it's strategic. They did that with that guy from
the Wrestler when the wrestled the bail There was so
strategic in how they did it. Ye heaby, Well, they
were really strategic and when they put him.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But saw an interview from Tony Ferguson where he was
like he had said, you know, Kabib's teammate had saw
him training and how on point he was and could
be pulled out. That's why could be pulled out of
the fight. And he said he had to go to
the hospital the night before. Uh, very well, could be true.
(21:01):
You know, you difficult to say things are theories until
they're proven correct and right. At that point, and in
somebody's career, you've already invested so much you don't really
want to risk and reward is a big part of that.
But you know, we'll never know. I mean, Kabeev has
to live with himself and Tony has to live with himself.
(21:26):
The trick is to do the right thing for the
right reason, so in the end you can live with
yourself and you don't have to mask it with anything true.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think I think people get into doing it for
different reasons. Like bah when when he got in he
got is he knew nothing about m M. I threw
himself in cage fights. I couldn't even win a cage
fight till he found you.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But but he won that fight because he realized what
he was fighting for. And when when you have purpose,
it's easier not only to train and endure, but it's
easier to to fight. You know, you don't on the street.
You know somebody goes to hurt your loved one, you don't.
If somebody went to hurt Kimberly in front of you,
(22:08):
you're not going to hesitate, you know, if if, But
then we get you start thinking about it and the anticipation,
and you know, you could add a lot of contributing
factors such as like all the processed food and the
chemicals and the horrible the way our body feels, and
you know, the devil attacking us and all these different emotions,
(22:31):
and then having to compete where it's a little easier
when you're like, oh, he's trying to do this, I
need to stop him. That's a that's an easier choice.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well, it just agreed. I just find I think I
find it interesting kind of where you came from. You
went straight to prov The way he started was he
just threw himself into fights because reasons. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He just did one day hindsight, it's always twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
If I could go back, of course, I would say
everyone would be like, oh, I would rather go through
this share that met him back in twenty sixth that
you jumping jumping into it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But they make you who you I guess who you
are at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Great.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But now, because these guys are starting and I know
Joe trains them very very young with MMA, it's not
like it used to be, where people are just kind
of coming out. MMA has become its own sport. It's
going into the Olympics, it's doing all of this. What
do you think about the evolution of MMA in the
last twenty years or so.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think that the last twenty years it's been remarkable growth.
I think MMA has existed prior. When you look at
Muhammad al Li fighting the uh that Japanese fighter, Uh
what is his name? He used to slap people. Yeah,
I forget his name. I feel so bad because he's
(23:46):
just an amazing fighter. But he was a wrestler. And
I mean, if you think about cats wrestling, you know,
pancreation was in the Olympics and the ancient Olympics. They're
so many mixed martial arts has been around. Think about
kung fu sensu is a form of many martial arts,
(24:08):
and taking the fight where it goes. Think of Jeep Cando.
You know, all of these factors. But for the application
of the sport being developed so early, I think it's
still in its infancy, Like it's nowhere near professional football, baseball,
basketball and or even soccer. It's treated like a prize fighting,
(24:33):
which is horrible because when you're there, like I get
wanting to be entertained. But on one hand, there's entertainment
and on the other hand there's a purity of the sport.
And to say, oh, I want to watch him fight
him is great, but that should have nothing to do
with that guy's the best. Now, if you're the best
(24:55):
and you're fighting him and he's considered the best, then
yet But if it's an entertainment per you know, oh well,
it's not going to draw in the right numbers. I
almost think there should be I pray for it to
be in the Olympics. Whereas the if the IOC does
pick it up, which they're in negotiations with I'm or
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not in negotiations, they're in the procedures of like auditing.
If it is picked up in the Olympics, who's to
say the Olympics have it as an amateur sport. You know,
you have professional basketball and players playing on the basketball team.
Who's not to say they won't use professional boxers and
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at that point, you know, rejuvenate the sport into a
real peer board again, because you're trying unless you know,
people try to lock you in contracts for winning things
like that. There's things that are variables. So do I
think it's grown exponentially, absolutely, especially since the ninth these rules, regulations, commissions.
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They have much more experience. The more experience you have
with something, the easier it is to deal with it.
You know, the job of a parent is to teach
their child what worked and what didn't work and the
whys and the INDs and the out so that they
go through life easier. But with that you also have
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what is it. Hard times make strong men. Strong men
make good times. Good times make weak men. And so
you're going to have that. And if you forget, you
know what got you there, and if you don't have
a standard and things like that. So difficult to say.
That's a really good question, Summare Like, I think it's great.
I think it's continue to grow. I think it will
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continue to grow. I think there are a lot of
forces all around it. I want to see the purity
of the sport. I want it to be the same
way it was to me when I first started, which
was I want to fight him to see who's better.
I want to be I want to be the best.
I want to be the I am not like I
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want to be the best by taking the easiest path.
But I also understand that, you know, I have certain
fighters that now you know, they're not developed ready. You know,
who is to say yeah, if people are honest and
just like no, that guy would beat you right now.
You're not ready for that fight. We're going to pass.
That is way better than saying you know, it's a
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conflict of interest, it's not going to work. We trained
together this one time. There's so many different variables. When
I tell you without the bull, without the whole YEA,
when I'm like, no, that guy, that guy's like seventy
percent going to beat my guy. You know you to
be you got to be upfront and you got to
be like that's a bad stylistic match. You know, people
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trying to hide information or like not put up their
whole like successful career. I think about this. I've got
kids that train anywhere from eight to nine hours a day,
you know, four to five days a week, that are homeschooled,
that are developing to to compete and fight, and it's
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going to be very difficult to find them fights unless
the IOC and i'maffer able to work something out and
it just gets big and you find other equal young,
developed people with the same experience to compete for the
on a world stage, whereas right now it's like, oh,
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well I got this thirty six year old, Well that's
there's a difference in strength there. That guy has grown
man strength.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And a little bit, good god, a little bit, that's all.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But sometimes you have those those kids that are able
to step up in and perform in those circumstances. Michael
is one of them that he did a great job,
but that was a special circumstance. His father was passing
away with als and we allowed him to compete at
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the age of fifteen against a grown man that was
nineteen but luckily not fully grown marine, so that his
dad would be able to see what is capable of.
And then Michael has to go through two knee surgeries
on this through high school wrestling. You know, we all
have these remarkable stories and it's at the end you're
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told it's the journey, and you realize at the end
and only truly like, wow, it has Look at the
people that I met in my life, Look at the
experience I got to share with these people, Look at
the just the amazing times that I have and where
this has taken me, and if your journey has been
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all about like just oh, I want to be the best,
but I want to do it this way and sneakily,
I would assume that it's difficult to sleep at night,
And if it's not difficult to sleep at night, it
probably will be one day. I think.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think because you are a man of integrity, you
assume integrity in others. And while I respect that about you,
I don't think most people have as much integrity as you.
I honestly don't. I think you are a very rare exception.
You have a great deal of integrity and kindness. I
really do with my of that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think sixty or seventy percent of people don't have
an inner monologue, and I wonder if that's Yeah, so
like you know how you actually the boy. Yeah, it's
something that I think the number sixty to fifty percent
of people don't have like an inner monologue, And to me,
that could be definitely, you know, a sign of times
(30:47):
or like you know, having your brain fried to radio
waves EMF or all of.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
These that's insane, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, So to not have an inner monolog, I think
consciousness and goes hand in hand and so I think
that you're I think you're right. I understand that. But
out of the people that do have a monologue, you know,
they have to constantly choose right or wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Why in three people have an inner monologue? It used
to be eighty percent. So one hundred years ago it
was eighty percent of people. Now it's one in three,
So it's it's getting worse over time. One in three
have an in a monologue.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Oh yeah, so that's but that's your like, you want
to be that one third. If you're If you're that
one third, you're doing some things right.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
You know, we talked a lot about these in the
next generation.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
What is it like for you as the person guiding
them to What is it like to watch them kind
of go through it?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I want to know can make them have an inner
monologu because apparently he's right, it does have to do
with morality. Sorry, I'm I'm going to get off.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Google to watch these kids grow.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It's my responsibility to be the leader, you know, like
Greg Jackson is. You know, he's out there doing the
workouts with the guys, helping push, leading by example, or
you a leader or you a boss. You need to
be an inspiration to the children to really get them
to develop properly. And you need to be there when
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they don't have somebody to be there, and that's our job.
The gym becomes a very safe environment to help develop
children through transitional stages, to have to go through real
life experiences and the safest environment possible where you can
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still call in both parents and talk between two kids
and say he said this, she said that that's not right.
Let's work something out. Let's have everyone understand. So you
get to develop in a very safe environment with real
life experiences with lower consequences because of it. And I
love it. I love I love It's a what twenty
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eight degrees the other day and I'm in the gym
six am and I got seven year olds and eight
year olds on the mat. You can see your breath
and they're doing front handsprings and walking on their hands
because they're chasing their dreams and they're developing. You know,
my son Max, he's ranked twenty second or twenty fourth
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in the state now, and I think he's going to
do better than that when he gets to the state championships.
But it's over like fifteen hundred schools that he represents
that in the state of California, and Matt Frankie just
won the state championships. As they've gotten older, they're they're
reaching these new levels that I never reached. I never
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became a state champion. I took second in state. I
lost to the national champion. It was tough. Ryan Halse,
He's a great guy, great athlete, and I would just
run into him at Greco State and freestyle State. But
that made me who I am today, and luckily me
putting my kids through those experiences at a younger age
and helping guide them. Now they're able to to get
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on top of the podium. I was reading a newspaper
article and the newspaper article interviewed Frankie after he won
the state championships, and it said, what did you think
standing on the first place podium? His first thing was,
it was a second time in my whole life standing
on the first place podium for wrestling.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's wonderful, right.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
And he goes, I know that all those other times
that I was putting myself because we always I always
made him bump up, Like once he won a division,
I made up to the next division. So instead of
holding him back, and allowing him to be the best
at the BOTTI I pushed him up. He didn't win
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a match for a year and a half, and he
had such the right attitude and mentality in that position
that he was able to develop into a state champion.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh, I think we phraze a little bit for right scholarships.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
He's decided to turn them down and russell one Moore
year in JUCO and then go, you know there to
get that experience. Now that's my kids. I get to
do this for other kids like Michael, who's brother and
sister and mom like have had to go through some
tough things and I get to help inspire them and
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help them with their choices and decisions or the volardes,
you know, the the to to to be there with them.
I just promoted my first, my youngest ever blue Bolt,
which was Roman Vallardi yesterday. You really cool?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Who inspires these kids? You inspire? They?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Who he looks up to?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Who these kids look up to? Inspires you? Who do
you think is you know, kind of the top at MMA?
Who did you look up to?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well? It was being blessed by Jesus Christ, like honestly,
like being you know, my dad was bipolar, schizophrenic and
out of the picture for a long bit. I had
many bad step dads that were in my life, you know,
trying to do crazy things with my mom and drugs.
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Strip searched as a kid before going to school and
accused of many horrible, crazy things. And it was but
yet the head of the school board for Hysperia, mister
only this is last year. He was my first sixth
grade teacher for homeroom, and he inspired me. He's like,
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one day I'm going to be this. And then my
wrestling coach that ended up marrying my mom and he
push and guide me. My next door neighbor, Brian Kitchens,
like mister Wilson, who's I get the opportunity to coach
over the summer when he comes in now and he's
still he's athletic director at Atlin and his son, you know,
(37:16):
joined the Marines just like my son did and as
seem to as an ab All these just remarkable things
that I think the beauty is in what God has
put in my life. And to get into those beauties,
the beautiful parts, you have to learn to appreciate the
hard times, the bad times. I don't get sad when
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somebody passes away anymore, I smile, and I have an
understanding that it's you know, meant to be legitimately and
it is what it is, and to move forward and
the having that outlook and understanding. You know, the same
spot in your brain that fear and anxiety come from
(38:00):
is the same spot that joy, happiness and love, and
that you know, two thoughts can't occupy one space, you know,
learning it so making it a choice to push through. Yeah,
on Instagram or on YouTube shorts. I've learned a lot
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of a lot about a little but I've been able
to absorb the things that seem super important, like that
last fact or the current fact of the people that
make it through. You know, Navy sales training is the person,
not like the star athlete. It's the person that's sitting
there trying to help you make it through, saying we
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can together and just thinking, well, wait a minute. That
means he has to have gratitude in his brain, in
his mind, and that helps push him through.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
You know, it's an attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Really you have to you have to be that person
because it's difficult. You know, I've coached many, like many
men many kids, and when you coach them from a
good place in their head, they can pull off that
win the last second of the fight after fifteen minutes.
But if you coach them from a negative place and
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they've been getting beat up, rarely will you see them
pull off that win in the end because they're so
toxic and septic from all that negativity.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Well, that I will say is something that one of
the biggest problems be had when you got him has
been the stage frighten all of that, and that actually
came from a coach before you, And so you really
kind of hit that nail on the head that came
from being I'm not going to say who's gym, because
it wasn't the Jimona's fault, but it was at the
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other gym, and it was dealing with this one specific
coach that really messed him up, and then you getting
his head to a better place really did make a
difference very much.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
So I was curious as you were talking about the
experiences and going through cage, especially with the people who
get coach from a negative place and they can't really
pull off that win. When you are coaching someone through
a fighter in their training, what is your goal with
them in the cag Are you as concerned that they
win it all costs you? Concern that they have the experience,
what are you trying to get them to get out
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of that experience?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Well, if I know what your purpose is, you know,
if you tell me what you're fighting for, I can
help you prepare to fight better for that goal. So,
if winning the match is a direct reflection of the
end goal, you know, there's a lot of importance on that.
But if your end goal is you know, to help
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others or to achieve this, then winning the match isn't
as important as people think it is. Very it's a
big step, and every fight is as important as your
last fight, and your your next fight is your most
important fight because that defines you and that's what people
are going to remember. Well, yeah, it's not true. If
you you know what you're fighting for, if you're if
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you're truly fighting for certain reasons, you could lose a
million fights amateur and be undefeated pro. You could. When
it clicks it finding clicks and watching it click on
people is my favorite thing to do, you know, when
it watching it click. I You're not my first fighter
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that I've ever had that has had stage fright or
performance anxiety right the last It's difficult to undo things
that have happened to people, you know, Like when you're
in a bad relationship and you catch and you're like,
want to check each other's phones and you're doing all that,
and then you get in a good relationship and you know,
(41:48):
you find yourself feeling these feelings again for a little
bit and you're like, wait, no, no, no, I was traumatized.
I was in a bad place. I you know, get
out of me. Yeah, you have to recognize and you
have to tell yourself these things because you know, sometimes
he's thoughts to come up from other places into your
head and it's not quarantined. You know, you don't the
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person your with doesn't deserve to be brought through with.
The last person you were with has no bearing and
not to say at all.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
So why I would something I love that I do
want to say. Please go make sure you are following
Joe on social media. We're getting towards the end of
the show. We have about ten minutes left. I want
you guys to go follow him. We are going to
put up a link. If you follow Bear, I promise
you will love Joe Bear worships Joe. It's kind of creepy.
(42:42):
I'm just just saying, but go follow Joe please. What
where would you like them.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
To follow you? I don't know really. I guess they
could do it on Instagram Joe Daddy nineteen eighty two.
I think, or it's Joe Feelings in nineteen eighty two.
I don't really have I'll put up his link.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think there's a Twitter, but I don't really use it.
I just say I like tacos on it. And I
use all my platforms to help people that need help.
You know, if there's a funeral, or if there's a wedding,
or somebody needs celebration, I just try to share that.
You know, the YouTube. We have YouTube channels that we
have free technique on that when people come to the gym,
(43:25):
it's easy to say, hey, you need to watch these videos.
It'll help you catch up on where we're at. And
so that that's a very very symbiotic relationship to have
with YouTube and new students and all of those things
are free and they help develop.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I wish I had the time to do everything right,
and I realized the moment I realized that I have
to stop and not be and not say well, this
has to be done perfect. Then I was able to
get more things done and I stopped free and I
was able to say, well, it doesn't have to be perfect.
It's going to be weird, it's gonna have it back.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I'm sorry, I'm just that is the grid like sorry,
it's like the top, one of the toughest men in
the world. And you just see the kitty robbing on that.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Is joeys that he doesn't have it as a cat.
Does that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I love that. I love how the kittie loves you. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
god sidetracked. I do agree with you though. It's realizing
that you don't have to do one hundred percent of
everything perfectly. It's doing the best you can everywhere. Yes,
it's perfect. That's really important. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
If if I could say about about doing it with
the right intentions though sometimes can can be wrong, I
was doing it the right way and you're still to
have bad results, like just in life, that's going to happen,
and not dwelling on that but saying, okay, well, how
(45:06):
do we fix it for the next time? You know
it wasn't on purpose. It wasn't intentional, So how do
we fix that and make sure it doesn't happen?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That makes sense?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
I like that if now I think one of the
biggest things I'm curious about whenever I listen to you
coach your examples to people is what if that person
really isn't in that mindset. They hear you, they take
that information, but when you watch them computer train, they're
not necessarily applying it.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Do you want to punch students? No, well.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
It's been much class. If I have a big class,
I have to whom Am I picking one student out?
Isn't that favoritism? Am I? If I have a small class,
you know? Am I teaching different? Am I? Articulating more?
Is time less of a thing? Can I give more direction?
(45:56):
When I watch a class, I'm honestly just making sure
that no one's going to get injured. I'm not going
to cretaq eak technique. Because that's why when I articulated
and demonstrate it, I try to do such a thorough job,
and then I watch and make sure people. When you've
got forty people in the class, you know, more important
(46:17):
is the fact they can go feed their family or
they go to school, and so you cause and effect.
You know, a private lesson. I gave private lessons to
this guy named Striker for three months. He went and
competed and took second at the world in jiu jitsu,
and he was hoping I would give him his blue
belt for that, but I just gave him four stripes.
(46:39):
I said, I told you I would give it to
you if you won, because three months is a short
period of time. I got great results with him. I
give privates to kids that get good grades at the
gym for free, so I don't have any free time.
And you know, I don't like doing private lessons, but
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it's private lessons, like you can't get the same out
of one. There's the difference is like one private lesson
is like what are we going to work on? What
can we improve right now? Oh wait, I want to
do a bunch of private lessons to develop, and that's
way different. And then you bring that into a class setting.
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You know, it's so difficult to get the same development
you'd get out of a one on one small class.
That's why I love it when Bear comes in the morning,
because I'll focus on him as an adult because we'll
have a lot of kids and then they're all playing
catch up with him, whereas at night there's a lot
(47:41):
of adults. So it's difficult to get that attention. But
every circumstance has its Every circumstance has its benefits and
it's and its downfalls. Right.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
It's actually it's funny you mentioned that because I haven't
even told my family at recent events are going to
cause me to change my schedule again to where I'm
going to have to add back my mornings and my
evenings full days. Very soon, I won't be able to
attend Fridays anymore with this your class, so I need
to find other ways to get in that time with
you there.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
The bear is Bear is Joe Daddy's biggest stalker. Just
so you guys know, why do you make it work?
I just I'm going creepy with this now. The I
think that's fantastic. I think I love that you're always
trying to get that time. How important the time that
people put in I think makes a difference on anything.
It's like who you associate it with, What the time
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you put in right? Right?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Ten thousand hours to master something as well, twenty hours
to feel comfortable. The fast you put that twenty hours
of development in, the more comfortable you'll be in, the
more likelihood you'll stick around for that ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That makes sense, you know, I do want to ask
them real quick.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
We're getting to the end, so I do want to.
So you come on, if you can give one piece
of advice. A lot of the people that watch this,
they are huge MMA fans. If you could give one
piece of advice to everyone watching, what would you give them?
What would you tell them?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Not everyone that is telling you good stuff have good
intentions for you, and not everyone that is telling you
bad stuff has bad intentions for you. And don't believe.
Don't believe the hype.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I like that, But you'll buy into your own hype.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, never buy your own so getting high on your
own supply, you don't do that very much. Never buy
your hype. Well, especially now you look at social media
has become such an integral part of anything. It's the
guys following, not the most talented guys that get ahead.
So if you buy your own high, it's.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
A lot of breaking bad. You're correct, it's perfect.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Now you can ask a question as long as they
know go follow Joe. We've got the advice that way
if we run.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
It was a bit selfish. It's about coaching because you
said somethingly interesting, which is you're not really as concerned
with correcting people even if they are making mistakes. It's
more like, don't get I don't want you to get hurt.
Do you find that bad for their journey through martial
arts progressing? Getting better than if you were standing there
kind of correcting the minute details.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
My oldest competing student is easy sixty six years old,
competing against forty year olds, you know, at a NAGA tournament.
My oldest students, I have two students that are seventy
two that are active in classes, my youngest. You know,
I'll have kids in my adult classes. The I think
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that every circumstance is going to be different, and I
think that each person on their own journey is a
different thing required for everyone's fork that comes in the
road is going to happen at a different timeline, different time,
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And is it always I need to watch out for
the safety of everyone. Almost yes, a large class, you know,
but the whole thing is with a small class, it's
pretty easy to watch the safety and you get to
watch the technique. The benefits of that are great, but
not being able to test yourself against other body types,
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styles and stuff that holds you back. I mean blow
chart and it'd be like, well, if he does this,
I do this, but then if he does this, I
do that. So it's infinite. When it comes to everyone's
own development, I think for a standard, safety needs to
be considered first because you need to be able to
do it again. And integrity and character because you can
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teach anyone how to punch somebody or how to choke somebody,
but without morality you're going to lack lack it in
the end.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Now he's talking about sixty year old seventy year olds
in his class. We had bud flu. We got reported
to the CDC for like two weeks. It's why he
didn't come in. And I'm like, we actually they called
c DC on us because we were we got it's
all over palm springs and he was one of the
few cases of YEA, so he got BOTHO. I'm now
(52:10):
like and he was like really wanting to go into
class and he's like I can't, and I was like,
I'm sure it'll be fine now I get it. No,
I agree, you do not give elderly people bird flu.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Well, that.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
It's the elderly if they have compromised immune systems, you know,
is one thing. But I mean also if you've been
raised your whole life like a wrestler, where like if
you're sick, you go to practice, she s tweet it
out and you build up a natural herd immunity. You know,
you're not really nervous about that.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
That makes sense. That makes sense. I can't believe they
report it to see.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
We are at the end of the show. We have
about two minutes left. I'm going to say thank you
to our special guest Leroy and his pet human Joe
coming on the show. I'm sorry he's still the show,
is Joe? Is there anything you want to say to
everyone out there now?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
For youth MMA. I believe it's going to be the
twenty fifth and twenty sixth of April in uh In.
Where is that CARLSBD, California. It'll be to make the
United States team and compete in Abu Dhabi for the
IMAF World Championships. I like that, so I guess that's
a cool thing to throw down there.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
I like that. So, so you guys know this is
a secret. Nobody knows. We're actually negotiating with the King
of Nigeria for Joe to go out there and fight cowboys. Seroni,
who have been talking to about that, But nobody knows.
It's a secret, so don't tell uh.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
And so I have to find some time.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, you have to find a little a little time
in between what is it, dealing with the Olympics, dealing
with internationals, dealing with you are the busiest man I
have ever met.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yeah, this week has been very weak, very different, but
every week is kind of fun that way.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
I like that. I like that. Thank you so much
for coming on the show. I do want to say, guys,
Joe runs Cobra Kai in Victorville. Go follow them. Check
it out, and if you are anywhere around there, go
in for a class. It is one of the most
amazing places. These are incredible people. It's a positive vibe.
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It's a great way to feel. But more than anything,
the people there are incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
It's extremely rewarding.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Thank you for me sommer, Thank you, Jared. I can't
wait to see you. Am I going to see you tonight, sparing.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I won't make it tonight's sparing. We're going to work
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Well, I will see you next week, my friend.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yes, sir, all right, guys, how do you how do
you exit?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
I always I always love doing that. I love Joe,
So I got to tell you his coach is one
of my favorite people. And if I didn't like his
girlfriend so much, I'd leave you for him.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well, I'm kidding, you're that's assuming a lot on his
end though too.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
No, his girlfriend's in smotion. I will say that. Make
sure you guys are following Joe. I'm joking about all
of this. Joe is one of my favorite people. He
is one of the most selfless kind people I've ever met.
I know I all of my joking about Bear. I
understand why Bear cares so much for Joe, because Joe
cares so much for everybody else.
Speaker 5 (55:23):
And that's how it works. If you give them to
the world, the world will give unto you. And I'd
be in that moment. It's nine instant gratification thing. You
have to be that kind of person, which he is.
He's just that nice of a person.
Speaker 4 (55:32):
He does he changes the world so it looks like
is going to be in twenty twenty eight in the
Olympics involved for that. Nobody knows that either or about
him fighting for the king. So nobody knows any of
that except you guys now. But I will say, follow Joe.
He is absolutely incredible. And I think the entire future
(55:54):
of the sport is going to be about Joe.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I know that sounds no, it makes sense that it's
where you put yourself.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
It is, it's and I think the future of the
sport Joe is writing the rules. Joe is one, you know.
I really think if you want to see where the
future of m m A is, look at Joe Daddy.
I'm just saying he's a daddy of the sport.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
All right, everyone, Joe, what is it?
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Joe daddy of m m A. Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
We'll think of it.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yeah, we need a better we bet it need a
better tagline than that, all right. I am the baroness
Summer Helene, and this is my co host Pink Panties Fiorda.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
About that.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
It's bear fjorder, don't go, don't go look. If you
look at that at on Instagram wherever, you won't find
what you want.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
I bet you five bucks they can find a barren
pink panties, especially in Palm Springs. This one yes today,
so your thanks, thank you very much for joining us.
This is behind the scenes. We'll see you next week.
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Speaker 4 (00:39):
Welcome to behind the Scenes. I'm your host, the Baroness
Summa Helene, and this.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Is pink panties and I am Bear Fjorda.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
No pink panties. Why saying that, because that was my testing.
It was testing testing Bear West pink panties.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
That's the testing for the audio testing.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Then I went to make fun of Bear fort and
found out he was not wearing underwear. So that is
an ongoing argument.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
I don't know, there is nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It never wears underwear.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
No, I'm going to go back to it. It's just clothed.
They're all clothing. They're all cold. As long as you're
not nude publicly, if you're on your own space, you
do you then that's all.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
That's all I've said. There's no problem with it. No
one can judge you. You are not running.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Around the streetsing you.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You don't have to. You're choosing.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
He's not wearing underwear. He doesn't wear pants when we
do the show, and now he's not wearing underwear.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Listen, we can do an only fans who are like
bare Field and not wearing underwear. Just me in these shorts.
It's true, but it's misleading. It is, and I can
eat more cereal.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It is. It is. Let's not do only fans. So
you did have a mate that wants to do only fans?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, shout out.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
By the way, he's one of my favorite people. He's
funny as hell.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Former UFC fighter, great fighter. They shouldn't have dropped him
for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
They did numbers, but I told him get his social
media up, he'll go back to UFC. Well, he was
talking about wanting to do only fans with his wife.
She is not down for it, but she's a smoke
shot like his.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Wife's and his think if she was I'm sure, they'd
actually do pretty good at it. But as it stands
around now, she's like, if you're gonna do it all? No,
she says, she can't even.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Do it, No, not at all.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I know he's in a time out. Well, what's funny
about it is now she's a smoke show. She's got
a great little body, and she's got a really girl
next door kind of features. She's really cute, she's got
like a kind of.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I still think calling someone girl next door just sounds
like it sounds insulting. Now that it is insulting, he
comes across like insulting.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It reminds me of when someone calls you homely.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You know, no homely means ugly. Girl next door is
like Natalie Portman is going next door and Hathwaite.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You call her by her actual name, may Amidala.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Thank you girl next door.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh man, you know I've.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Never been I've been never been so not attracted to
a man as I was in that moment. Do you
know who I just thought about you in pink panties.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I'm just like you know who else can never escape
their roles? Daniel Radcliffe, He is incredible. He did a
movie called Imperium where he's playing a undercounter undercover FBI agent.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
So you're following make sure you're following Jared Vendera.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Make sure you're following Jared Vendera.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We're going to do only fans and leave Harry Potter alone.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, I'm not. He did great and whenever he does
something in another movie, everyone just just plays the joke
of like, oh no, he's actually like, no, this is
a wizard. Why is why is Harry Potter going undercover
in this Arian brotherhood a game? What is happening?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I think my favorite with him is that during the
Coast Child, Yes, and they're like, you know, but who oh, no,
for sure, but they're bringing back the original cars. They're
all the agent, they're supposed to be the parents and
things now and everyone cannot get over the fact that
Harry Potter is old enough to be at all Harry Potter.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Now that's really it. And here's the thing. Everything he does,
people just rip on him as if he's still Harry,
which I find hilarious, by the way, not like he doesn't.
He rolls with the punches ball, he plays into it,
you know what I'm saying. He went on an interview
recently and they're like, so, well, what is it like
transitioning from Harry Potter to other TV shows?
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It was like, well, you know, once I accepted that
I am Harry Potter became really easy. What do you
mean you accept Harry Potter?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Well, I thought I was just an actor playing a wizard,
but it turns out I was a wizard playing an
actor playing and playing a wizard.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And he just he keeps that going through all this
other stuff. I think he did well. Yes, he'll always
be kind of like type casted as far as acting
goes like, oh, this will always be Harry Potter. He
can also really he knows how to play it well
whoever's telling him how to do his stuff as far
as media and public relations go. If you're a very intelligent,
move right there. I'm so distracted by you pouring d
(04:38):
Is it hot?
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It is nice and hot.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a dirty chi yeah, very clearly dirty chat tee.
There's some coffee in there.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It looks like it's really good.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Well, you enjoy your tea, would like.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You should probably hold it all.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's fine, it is, that's weird. It's gotta got an
odd aftertaste. I'm sorry about that. I'm sure it's very good.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
It's port. We just needed up the Starbucks I poured
it in.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Okay, back back to what we're saying earlier, though, if
Daniel Radcliffe did a did.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A only fans, what do you think his name would be?
Oh that's so good. That's his hash. Yeah, he's got
his that's his catchphrase.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He's got what do you think his name would be?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
So instead of the boy who live, it's you can't
really say this, must say the boy who came. But
that doesn't work. So you got to be like the
man who came or something. Don't look at me like that.
Anyone can make that mistake.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Okay, Prince Andre.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Mean wait, I thought he wasn't like convicted, No he was.
He was in the vicinity. It may have been an.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Accident off Epstein Island.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Please, we never were on Epstein Island. Don't you seem
to be it's talking with Andrew.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Who's the one talking about boys?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
That's not nice? Just saying, you know, and speaking of
other inappropriate things in news. What about the whole Baldoni
and Blake Lively thing?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Oh yes, she's a bit yeah, well quick shout out
this is so I can say this because I'm not consulting. Clearly,
they do not have a media strategist consulting.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
They really do. I'm sure they do, but they're like, no,
you're not telling me what I want to hear. So
you're they need it.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, they need a decent spin doctor. Basically, they needed
some emergency pr She needs to come out, she needs
to apologize. She tried to do what so so so
anyone knows. She pulled the same move that Ryan Reynolds
pulled with Deadpool. What he did is he took the role,
He took it for less money than he should, took
a producer's credit, it sort of took over production and
(07:02):
then by Deadpool too, he was in charge. She tried
to pull the same thing on this. Now here's where
the fly in the ointment. People think it's because no,
they think it's because she was trying to nail Baldoni,
well trying to if she was trying to, Yeah, but
he finds her repellent. Then she used Taylor Swift and
(07:22):
she basically threatened him with her super famous husband and
her super famous friend. Well, of course, Taylor Swift isn't stupid.
She's bailed, like, she's out. She's not risking her career
for this chick who's using her as a threat without
her permission.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, I don't see where she thought this was going
to go. I get it in to convince enough people
to believe that Baldoni's bad enough to get him to
lose projects and everything, But at the end of the day,
there was going to come out the information. The texts
were there.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
She thought he would save so Baldoni could have outed
her ages go shout out Sniffy thought could have outed
her from the beginning. But he actually covered up for her.
He cared enough about the project that he was willing
to put up with the bullshit. You know, he and
his family sat in the basement during the premiere, Like
he really put up with a lot of ball to
(08:09):
save the project. But she pushed it too far. Once
she got to sexual harassment, he was like, we're done.
Here are the receipts. Pretty much, she didn't realize things
like when she was talking about there being no sound
on that dancing scene, she didn't realize there was sound.
Of course he recorded, and so all these things that
she was saying, she didn't realize there were receipts. So
(08:33):
she made a calculated move, a business move. She did
it wrong. What she has to do now is come
out and apologize. And if I was her spin doctor,
I would say this. Come out, say look, I came
from Hollywood. I obviously read this wrong. You know, I
started in Hollywood at a young age. I dealt with
a lot of predators. Obviously, because of what's happened to
(08:54):
me throughout my life, I've become very sensitive to it.
So she's still making herself the victim, saying I'm very
sensitive to it. I read I read Justin's intentions wrong.
I want to apologize to Justin his family, and I
personally am going to make a donation to women's abuse funds.
I misstepped. I misstepped in all of this. I shouldn't
(09:15):
have been promoting my Betty Buzz, my alcohol brand in
conjunction with domestic violence, my hair products. I treated this
like it was a regular film when I wasn't. I
wasn't respectful to the fans, I wasn't respectful about Donie.
I'm sorry, and I'd like to do part two. I'd
like to do the prequel or sequel. I'd like to
be a part of it, and I'd like to donate
my salary to charity. If she pulls that, if she apologizes,
(09:36):
if she blames it on her reading it wrong, not
saying she did it on purpose trying to steal a film,
blames it, I'm reading it wrong, donates her salary and
steps back in. She'll went the public back to her.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Here's the one problem with all of that and why
she won't do it, because her immediate thought is going
to go, no, what I said is right. Am. My
husband's Ryan Reynolds. So if you don't agree with me,
you're not going to work in Hollywood. That's her.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
That's what's going to stop her from doing any smart
move because in her brain, she's right. Even though she
knows she's lying, she's right. Why are these people not
believing me? My I am believable and my husband's lying.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Here's the thing. She's never been likable. She's always been
a bully, she's always been problematic, and everyone, well, everyone
covered it up. They covered it up on Gossip Girl
because they wanted the show to do well. They covered
it up on Sister to the Traveling Pants and then
interviews where she's been a bitch. They've kind of shortened
it and covered it, so she's always been covered for
(10:28):
then she's when she got caught, she'd make it like
she was making a joke and she was just awkward.
When she had the affair with Ryan Reynolds on Green Lantern,
Scarlett Johansson didn't want to get embroiled in a scandal,
so she didn't advertise the fact that you know, they
were divorcing because she was cheated on. So it was,
it was, and it was a very similar situation to
(10:51):
the Ariana Grande, just without the baby. Meaning Blake Lively
had met and talked to Scarlet Johanson. Scarlett had come
to say she played buddy buddy with her engineiled the
husband in a hotel during production.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
So they met on a set of a movie. The
met on Green Lantern. Well, when your movie tanks and
that's where you met, you're a fair partner. That's just
got to be the biggest red fly, like the biggest
ole man. You start cheating on your way and then
your movie like I had a terrible return.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I'm sorry. I do think that for sure, that is
a bad omen. You should have read into that.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
I think something they should I was looking to see
if Fudjo Daddy was on got it. I think something
they should consider is, I know everyone's thinking it's because
just because Ryan Reynolds is jealous, right, his wife and
he started as an affair. They were both in other relationships.
(11:49):
It's very reasonable for people to be jealous at that
point because if you start as an affair, you'll always
think that the other person's going to cheat on you.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
That's always going to be and that's what she was
seemed to be going for.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
It does seem like she might have been hitting on BALTONI,
or at least looking for that attention while her husband
was away shooting.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, but here's the thing. But then again, Jackman was
cheating on his wife, and that was a shocker because
they were the you know, the Hollywood standard, and he
was cheating on his wife and the woman he left
his wife for. So, you guys know, absolutely foul human being.
Like she was a full on salker, if you guys,
if you guys go back through her history, she orchestrated this,
(12:29):
she got involved like she.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Is a bad.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Like it was amazing impressive really, so you know, blessed
Jackman's wife. I hope she does well without him. She
deserved better. But I there's there's no good segue, because
from terrible men to wonderful men, I'd like to welcome
to the show Joe Daddy Stevenson, the nicest guy in
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m m A.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Everyone get Yeah, where did you find him?
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Honey? Oh that is a pretty baby.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
His name is Leroy, Hi LeRoi. He eats raw meat
and regular hard food and is is spoiled.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Sphinx.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah, it's a hairless sphinx.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Oh my god, that is so cute. I love sphinx.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I feel like he's really dirty right now, so I
probably shouldn't let him on my lap. But the bedroom
in the bedroom is his domain. I can't if I
push him away, he just start walking in and bumping
into the phone.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, he's a very welcome guest. How long have you
had lee Ry? Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Seven years? Oh yeah, he's he's he was the run
of the litter and he uh. The sphinx cats they
feel like velvet like. I guess that's a nice way
to describe them. And they even get some hair like.
He had a little bit of winter like fuzz that
came over certain areas that's gone now. And they let's
(14:26):
see they they are supposed to most of like these
cats have to be like oiled almost because their skin.
He doesn't require that I did something special about him.
You have to bathe them a lot because they lose
like toes and fingers because they can get dirty easy,
I guess. But he doesn't really fall into that category.
(14:50):
He uh, he feels like he's a lion, you know,
he's He's ran once one time when we took him
outside to see a horse, so we've never let him
out again. So he thinks that he is like this
this beast, like a leopard order and to dogs, he'll
(15:12):
treat them like that. And it is really cool to
see him develop like and now he's like older. I
think cats like age, not like dogs kind of dogs
are like every seven years or something, but cats are
a little bit older. I feel we give him nothing
but like really clean water and lots of love. They
(15:34):
say that the cat purrs are supposed to be a
frequency to help you, like heal. Yeah, he purves so
much every day of his life. It's because of how
much attention he gets. So he's probably healed. And then
a lot of times they'll jump on you in per
and he does it like every night for you.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
I love that. There's an old saying it. Some dogs
look at people, and people feed them, clean up their poop,
they walk them, and dogs will look at a person
and go they must be God. A cat looks at
you and goes. He feeds me, he walks me, he
changes my litter. I must be God. You can see,
you can see why the Egyptians worship them. Like, he
(16:14):
looks so you know, he just the way he'ding there. Yeah,
he looks so regal.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's exactly. I believe some of the Egyptians actually even
lost army, lost wars and battles because cats. The threat
of the cats being murdered and killed.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, that is true.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
That is true.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I can't remember which strapped cats to their their forward.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Shields and then and then Egyptians were like.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
No worn, you know, speaking of wars, but more on
the individual standpoint. You've been in combat sports now for years,
coaching fighting. How did I what's kind of like the background,
what got you started?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
How did you get into that? I'm just stuck on
the cat. I'm sorry, I was like, I want his cat.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I started fighting after watching watching wrestlers from my local
area compete like Dan Henderson, and I was like, man,
I'd like to test myself. I was already doing like judo,
jiu jitsu and wrestling, and so I stepped into my
very first professional fight at the age of at sixteen.
(17:21):
It was at in a Norco Eastville area down off
the fifteen at what used to be a driving range
now at soccer fields. I had on those very same
card fighters like Carl Parisian, my friend Nick Laquette, and
Victor Hudsinger and a bunch of really tough guys competing.
(17:42):
Jean LaBelle was my referee, and it was a really
amazing experience. I wanted to see if I was any
good at it. I think you have to understand what
you're doing it for. You know, you have to define
why you are training, and you've got to use competition
(18:02):
as a measuring stick not only just for you, but
also for real life application. You know, like if I'm
training martial arts to defend myself and people, I love
what happens when it really happens, And then more times
you put yourself in those situations, the easier it is
(18:26):
to react properly, and it's easier on the street to
fight because you're not fighting somebody that's trained to kick
your butt, you know, who's not watching tape on you
and checking out your flaws. And so that's what kind
of happened to me was I wanted to see where
(18:46):
I fit in the pecking order and see how everything
panned out. And then after after learning that I was
okay at it. I think I won my first two fights,
and then I lost my next two fights. I had
lost to Jens Pulver, who would go on to win
the belt that next year in the UFC, and I
lost to Pat Militic, who had just fought and lost
(19:08):
for the belt in the UFC. And then I started
my senior year.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Wow, I'm like, that's you know.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Is there a reason why you jumped right into pro?
Do they not have an amateur division back at the
time it was.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Just in the nineties, there was no amateur division. And
on top of that, you know, I think I had
a bad coach and not necessarily bad technique, but he
wasn't equipped at the time because he was still learning.
You know, it's difficult to he was also training and
(19:44):
fighting in the UFC. He had two fights and When
you do that, it's difficult to train and coach others.
And when you're learning, you're trying things out on your students,
and he was just not as ex experienced. And back
in the day, it was more or less honestly about
(20:04):
measuring yourself. You know, there was no really protecting your
record and trying to to be undefeated. There was you know,
if you're undefeated, you weren't fighting the right people. Whereas now,
if you're undefeated, you're you're considered like the pounds for pound,
it's really arguable to say just because you're undefeated that
(20:25):
you're one of the best of all time.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, it's strategic. They did that with that guy from
the Wrestler when the wrestled the bail There was so
strategic in how they did it. Ye heaby, Well, they
were really strategic and when they put him.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
But saw an interview from Tony Ferguson where he was
like he had said, you know, Kabib's teammate had saw
him training and how on point he was and could
be pulled out. That's why could be pulled out of
the fight. And he said he had to go to
the hospital the night before. Uh, very well, could be true.
(21:01):
You know, you difficult to say things are theories until
they're proven correct and right. At that point, and in
somebody's career, you've already invested so much you don't really
want to risk and reward is a big part of that.
But you know, we'll never know. I mean, Kabeev has
to live with himself and Tony has to live with himself.
(21:26):
The trick is to do the right thing for the
right reason, so in the end you can live with
yourself and you don't have to mask it with anything true.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think I think people get into doing it for
different reasons. Like bah when when he got in he
got is he knew nothing about m M. I threw
himself in cage fights. I couldn't even win a cage
fight till he found you.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
But but he won that fight because he realized what
he was fighting for. And when when you have purpose,
it's easier not only to train and endure, but it's
easier to to fight. You know, you don't on the street.
You know somebody goes to hurt your loved one, you don't.
If somebody went to hurt Kimberly in front of you,
(22:08):
you're not going to hesitate, you know, if if, But
then we get you start thinking about it and the anticipation,
and you know, you could add a lot of contributing
factors such as like all the processed food and the
chemicals and the horrible the way our body feels, and
you know, the devil attacking us and all these different emotions,
(22:31):
and then having to compete where it's a little easier
when you're like, oh, he's trying to do this, I
need to stop him. That's a that's an easier choice.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Well, it just agreed. I just find I think I
find it interesting kind of where you came from. You
went straight to prov The way he started was he
just threw himself into fights because reasons. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
He just did one day hindsight, it's always twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
If I could go back, of course, I would say
everyone would be like, oh, I would rather go through
this share that met him back in twenty sixth that
you jumping jumping into it.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
But they make you who you I guess who you
are at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Great.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
But now, because these guys are starting and I know
Joe trains them very very young with MMA, it's not
like it used to be, where people are just kind
of coming out. MMA has become its own sport. It's
going into the Olympics, it's doing all of this. What
do you think about the evolution of MMA in the
last twenty years or so.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I think that the last twenty years it's been remarkable growth.
I think MMA has existed prior. When you look at
Muhammad al Li fighting the uh that Japanese fighter, Uh
what is his name? He used to slap people. Yeah,
I forget his name. I feel so bad because he's
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just an amazing fighter. But he was a wrestler. And
I mean, if you think about cats wrestling, you know,
pancreation was in the Olympics and the ancient Olympics. They're
so many mixed martial arts has been around. Think about
kung fu sensu is a form of many martial arts,
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and taking the fight where it goes. Think of Jeep Cando.
You know, all of these factors. But for the application
of the sport being developed so early, I think it's
still in its infancy, Like it's nowhere near professional football, baseball,
basketball and or even soccer. It's treated like a prize fighting,
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which is horrible because when you're there, like I get
wanting to be entertained. But on one hand, there's entertainment
and on the other hand there's a purity of the sport.
And to say, oh, I want to watch him fight
him is great, but that should have nothing to do
with that guy's the best. Now, if you're the best
(24:55):
and you're fighting him and he's considered the best, then
yet But if it's an entertainment per you know, oh well,
it's not going to draw in the right numbers. I
almost think there should be I pray for it to
be in the Olympics. Whereas the if the IOC does
pick it up, which they're in negotiations with I'm or
(25:17):
not in negotiations, they're in the procedures of like auditing.
If it is picked up in the Olympics, who's to
say the Olympics have it as an amateur sport. You know,
you have professional basketball and players playing on the basketball team.
Who's not to say they won't use professional boxers and
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at that point, you know, rejuvenate the sport into a
real peer board again, because you're trying unless you know,
people try to lock you in contracts for winning things
like that. There's things that are variables. So do I
think it's grown exponentially, absolutely, especially since the ninth these rules, regulations, commissions.
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They have much more experience. The more experience you have
with something, the easier it is to deal with it.
You know, the job of a parent is to teach
their child what worked and what didn't work and the
whys and the INDs and the out so that they
go through life easier. But with that you also have
(26:25):
what is it. Hard times make strong men. Strong men
make good times. Good times make weak men. And so
you're going to have that. And if you forget, you
know what got you there, and if you don't have
a standard and things like that. So difficult to say.
That's a really good question, Summare Like, I think it's great.
I think it's continue to grow. I think it will
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continue to grow. I think there are a lot of
forces all around it. I want to see the purity
of the sport. I want it to be the same
way it was to me when I first started, which
was I want to fight him to see who's better.
I want to be I want to be the best.
I want to be the I am not like I
(27:06):
want to be the best by taking the easiest path.
But I also understand that, you know, I have certain
fighters that now you know, they're not developed ready. You know,
who is to say yeah, if people are honest and
just like no, that guy would beat you right now.
You're not ready for that fight. We're going to pass.
That is way better than saying you know, it's a
(27:29):
conflict of interest, it's not going to work. We trained
together this one time. There's so many different variables. When
I tell you without the bull, without the whole YEA,
when I'm like, no, that guy, that guy's like seventy
percent going to beat my guy. You know you to
be you got to be upfront and you got to
be like that's a bad stylistic match. You know, people
(27:51):
trying to hide information or like not put up their
whole like successful career. I think about this. I've got
kids that train anywhere from eight to nine hours a day,
you know, four to five days a week, that are homeschooled,
that are developing to to compete and fight, and it's
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going to be very difficult to find them fights unless
the IOC and i'maffer able to work something out and
it just gets big and you find other equal young,
developed people with the same experience to compete for the
on a world stage, whereas right now it's like, oh,
(28:35):
well I got this thirty six year old, Well that's
there's a difference in strength there. That guy has grown
man strength.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
And a little bit, good god, a little bit, that's all.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
But sometimes you have those those kids that are able
to step up in and perform in those circumstances. Michael
is one of them that he did a great job,
but that was a special circumstance. His father was passing
away with als and we allowed him to compete at
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the age of fifteen against a grown man that was
nineteen but luckily not fully grown marine, so that his
dad would be able to see what is capable of.
And then Michael has to go through two knee surgeries
on this through high school wrestling. You know, we all
have these remarkable stories and it's at the end you're
(29:30):
told it's the journey, and you realize at the end
and only truly like, wow, it has Look at the
people that I met in my life, Look at the
experience I got to share with these people, Look at
the just the amazing times that I have and where
this has taken me, and if your journey has been
(29:53):
all about like just oh, I want to be the best,
but I want to do it this way and sneakily,
I would assume that it's difficult to sleep at night,
And if it's not difficult to sleep at night, it
probably will be one day. I think.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think because you are a man of integrity, you
assume integrity in others. And while I respect that about you,
I don't think most people have as much integrity as you.
I honestly don't. I think you are a very rare exception.
You have a great deal of integrity and kindness. I
really do with my of that.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I think sixty or seventy percent of people don't have
an inner monologue, and I wonder if that's Yeah, so
like you know how you actually the boy. Yeah, it's
something that I think the number sixty to fifty percent
of people don't have like an inner monologue, And to me,
that could be definitely, you know, a sign of times
(30:47):
or like you know, having your brain fried to radio
waves EMF or all of.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
These that's insane, that's insane.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, So to not have an inner monolog, I think
consciousness and goes hand in hand and so I think
that you're I think you're right. I understand that. But
out of the people that do have a monologue, you know,
they have to constantly choose right or wrong.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Why in three people have an inner monologue? It used
to be eighty percent. So one hundred years ago it
was eighty percent of people. Now it's one in three,
So it's it's getting worse over time. One in three
have an in a monologue.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Oh yeah, so that's but that's your like, you want
to be that one third. If you're If you're that
one third, you're doing some things right.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
You know, we talked a lot about these in the
next generation.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
What is it like for you as the person guiding
them to What is it like to watch them kind
of go through it?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
I want to know can make them have an inner
monologu because apparently he's right, it does have to do
with morality. Sorry, I'm I'm going to get off.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Google to watch these kids grow.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It's my responsibility to be the leader, you know, like
Greg Jackson is. You know, he's out there doing the
workouts with the guys, helping push, leading by example, or
you a leader or you a boss. You need to
be an inspiration to the children to really get them
to develop properly. And you need to be there when
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they don't have somebody to be there, and that's our job.
The gym becomes a very safe environment to help develop
children through transitional stages, to have to go through real
life experiences and the safest environment possible where you can
(32:42):
still call in both parents and talk between two kids
and say he said this, she said that that's not right.
Let's work something out. Let's have everyone understand. So you
get to develop in a very safe environment with real
life experiences with lower consequences because of it. And I
love it. I love I love It's a what twenty
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eight degrees the other day and I'm in the gym
six am and I got seven year olds and eight
year olds on the mat. You can see your breath
and they're doing front handsprings and walking on their hands
because they're chasing their dreams and they're developing. You know,
my son Max, he's ranked twenty second or twenty fourth
(33:31):
in the state now, and I think he's going to
do better than that when he gets to the state championships.
But it's over like fifteen hundred schools that he represents
that in the state of California, and Matt Frankie just
won the state championships. As they've gotten older, they're they're
reaching these new levels that I never reached. I never
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became a state champion. I took second in state. I
lost to the national champion. It was tough. Ryan Halse,
He's a great guy, great athlete, and I would just
run into him at Greco State and freestyle State. But
that made me who I am today, and luckily me
putting my kids through those experiences at a younger age
and helping guide them. Now they're able to to get
(34:14):
on top of the podium. I was reading a newspaper
article and the newspaper article interviewed Frankie after he won
the state championships, and it said, what did you think
standing on the first place podium? His first thing was,
it was a second time in my whole life standing
on the first place podium for wrestling.
Speaker 4 (34:34):
That's wonderful, right.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
And he goes, I know that all those other times
that I was putting myself because we always I always
made him bump up, Like once he won a division,
I made up to the next division. So instead of
holding him back, and allowing him to be the best
at the BOTTI I pushed him up. He didn't win
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a match for a year and a half, and he
had such the right attitude and mentality in that position
that he was able to develop into a state champion.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh, I think we phraze a little bit for right scholarships.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
He's decided to turn them down and russell one Moore
year in JUCO and then go, you know there to
get that experience. Now that's my kids. I get to
do this for other kids like Michael, who's brother and
sister and mom like have had to go through some
tough things and I get to help inspire them and
(35:36):
help them with their choices and decisions or the volardes,
you know, the the to to to be there with them.
I just promoted my first, my youngest ever blue Bolt,
which was Roman Vallardi yesterday. You really cool?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Who inspires these kids? You inspire? They?
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yo?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Who he looks up to?
Speaker 2 (35:58):
You?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
Who these kids look up to? Inspires you? Who do
you think is you know, kind of the top at MMA?
Who did you look up to?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Well? It was being blessed by Jesus Christ, like honestly,
like being you know, my dad was bipolar, schizophrenic and
out of the picture for a long bit. I had
many bad step dads that were in my life, you know,
trying to do crazy things with my mom and drugs.
(36:29):
Strip searched as a kid before going to school and
accused of many horrible, crazy things. And it was but
yet the head of the school board for Hysperia, mister
only this is last year. He was my first sixth
grade teacher for homeroom, and he inspired me. He's like,
(36:53):
one day I'm going to be this. And then my
wrestling coach that ended up marrying my mom and he
push and guide me. My next door neighbor, Brian Kitchens,
like mister Wilson, who's I get the opportunity to coach
over the summer when he comes in now and he's
still he's athletic director at Atlin and his son, you know,
(37:16):
joined the Marines just like my son did and as
seem to as an ab All these just remarkable things
that I think the beauty is in what God has
put in my life. And to get into those beauties,
the beautiful parts, you have to learn to appreciate the
hard times, the bad times. I don't get sad when
(37:39):
somebody passes away anymore, I smile, and I have an
understanding that it's you know, meant to be legitimately and
it is what it is, and to move forward and
the having that outlook and understanding. You know, the same
spot in your brain that fear and anxiety come from
(38:00):
is the same spot that joy, happiness and love, and
that you know, two thoughts can't occupy one space, you know,
learning it so making it a choice to push through. Yeah,
on Instagram or on YouTube shorts. I've learned a lot
(38:21):
of a lot about a little but I've been able
to absorb the things that seem super important, like that
last fact or the current fact of the people that
make it through. You know, Navy sales training is the person,
not like the star athlete. It's the person that's sitting
there trying to help you make it through, saying we
(38:41):
can together and just thinking, well, wait a minute. That
means he has to have gratitude in his brain, in
his mind, and that helps push him through.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
You know, it's an attitude of gratitude.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Really you have to you have to be that person
because it's difficult. You know, I've coached many, like many
men many kids, and when you coach them from a
good place in their head, they can pull off that
win the last second of the fight after fifteen minutes.
But if you coach them from a negative place and
(39:13):
they've been getting beat up, rarely will you see them
pull off that win in the end because they're so
toxic and septic from all that negativity.
Speaker 4 (39:25):
Well, that I will say is something that one of
the biggest problems be had when you got him has
been the stage frighten all of that, and that actually
came from a coach before you, And so you really
kind of hit that nail on the head that came
from being I'm not going to say who's gym, because
it wasn't the Jimona's fault, but it was at the
(39:45):
other gym, and it was dealing with this one specific
coach that really messed him up, and then you getting
his head to a better place really did make a
difference very much.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
So I was curious as you were talking about the
experiences and going through cage, especially with the people who
get coach from a negative place and they can't really
pull off that win. When you are coaching someone through
a fighter in their training, what is your goal with
them in the cag Are you as concerned that they
win it all costs you? Concern that they have the experience,
what are you trying to get them to get out
(40:19):
of that experience?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Well, if I know what your purpose is, you know,
if you tell me what you're fighting for, I can
help you prepare to fight better for that goal. So,
if winning the match is a direct reflection of the
end goal, you know, there's a lot of importance on that.
But if your end goal is you know, to help
(40:42):
others or to achieve this, then winning the match isn't
as important as people think it is. Very it's a
big step, and every fight is as important as your
last fight, and your your next fight is your most
important fight because that defines you and that's what people
are going to remember. Well, yeah, it's not true. If
you you know what you're fighting for, if you're if
(41:03):
you're truly fighting for certain reasons, you could lose a
million fights amateur and be undefeated pro. You could. When
it clicks it finding clicks and watching it click on
people is my favorite thing to do, you know, when
it watching it click. I You're not my first fighter
(41:25):
that I've ever had that has had stage fright or
performance anxiety right the last It's difficult to undo things
that have happened to people, you know, Like when you're
in a bad relationship and you catch and you're like,
want to check each other's phones and you're doing all that,
and then you get in a good relationship and you know,
(41:48):
you find yourself feeling these feelings again for a little
bit and you're like, wait, no, no, no, I was traumatized.
I was in a bad place. I you know, get
out of me. Yeah, you have to recognize and you
have to tell yourself these things because you know, sometimes
he's thoughts to come up from other places into your
head and it's not quarantined. You know, you don't the
(42:11):
person your with doesn't deserve to be brought through with.
The last person you were with has no bearing and
not to say at all.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
So why I would something I love that I do
want to say. Please go make sure you are following
Joe on social media. We're getting towards the end of
the show. We have about ten minutes left. I want
you guys to go follow him. We are going to
put up a link. If you follow Bear, I promise
you will love Joe Bear worships Joe. It's kind of creepy.
(42:42):
I'm just just saying, but go follow Joe please. What
where would you like them.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
To follow you? I don't know really. I guess they
could do it on Instagram Joe Daddy nineteen eighty two.
I think, or it's Joe Feelings in nineteen eighty two.
I don't really have I'll put up his link.
Speaker 4 (43:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
I think there's a Twitter, but I don't really use it.
I just say I like tacos on it. And I
use all my platforms to help people that need help.
You know, if there's a funeral, or if there's a wedding,
or somebody needs celebration, I just try to share that.
You know, the YouTube. We have YouTube channels that we
have free technique on that when people come to the gym,
(43:25):
it's easy to say, hey, you need to watch these videos.
It'll help you catch up on where we're at. And
so that that's a very very symbiotic relationship to have
with YouTube and new students and all of those things
are free and they help develop.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
You know.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
I wish I had the time to do everything right,
and I realized the moment I realized that I have
to stop and not be and not say well, this
has to be done perfect. Then I was able to
get more things done and I stopped free and I
was able to say, well, it doesn't have to be perfect.
It's going to be weird, it's gonna have it back.
Speaker 4 (44:07):
I'm sorry, I'm just that is the grid like sorry,
it's like the top, one of the toughest men in
the world. And you just see the kitty robbing on that.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Is joeys that he doesn't have it as a cat.
Does that makes sense?
Speaker 4 (44:27):
I love that. I love how the kittie loves you. Sorry, sorry, sorry,
god sidetracked. I do agree with you though. It's realizing
that you don't have to do one hundred percent of
everything perfectly. It's doing the best you can everywhere. Yes,
it's perfect. That's really important. You know.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
If if I could say about about doing it with
the right intentions though sometimes can can be wrong, I
was doing it the right way and you're still to
have bad results, like just in life, that's going to happen,
and not dwelling on that but saying, okay, well, how
(45:06):
do we fix it for the next time? You know
it wasn't on purpose. It wasn't intentional, So how do
we fix that and make sure it doesn't happen?
Speaker 2 (45:14):
That makes sense?
Speaker 5 (45:15):
I like that if now I think one of the
biggest things I'm curious about whenever I listen to you
coach your examples to people is what if that person
really isn't in that mindset. They hear you, they take
that information, but when you watch them computer train, they're
not necessarily applying it.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Do you want to punch students? No, well.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
It's been much class. If I have a big class,
I have to whom Am I picking one student out?
Isn't that favoritism? Am I? If I have a small class,
you know? Am I teaching different? Am I? Articulating more?
Is time less of a thing? Can I give more direction?
(45:56):
When I watch a class, I'm honestly just making sure
that no one's going to get injured. I'm not going
to cretaq eak technique. Because that's why when I articulated
and demonstrate it, I try to do such a thorough job,
and then I watch and make sure people. When you've
got forty people in the class, you know, more important
(46:17):
is the fact they can go feed their family or
they go to school, and so you cause and effect.
You know, a private lesson. I gave private lessons to
this guy named Striker for three months. He went and
competed and took second at the world in jiu jitsu,
and he was hoping I would give him his blue
belt for that, but I just gave him four stripes.
(46:39):
I said, I told you I would give it to
you if you won, because three months is a short
period of time. I got great results with him. I
give privates to kids that get good grades at the
gym for free, so I don't have any free time.
And you know, I don't like doing private lessons, but
(46:59):
it's private lessons, like you can't get the same out
of one. There's the difference is like one private lesson
is like what are we going to work on? What
can we improve right now? Oh wait, I want to
do a bunch of private lessons to develop, and that's
way different. And then you bring that into a class setting.
(47:19):
You know, it's so difficult to get the same development
you'd get out of a one on one small class.
That's why I love it when Bear comes in the morning,
because I'll focus on him as an adult because we'll
have a lot of kids and then they're all playing
catch up with him, whereas at night there's a lot
(47:41):
of adults. So it's difficult to get that attention. But
every circumstance has its Every circumstance has its benefits and
it's and its downfalls. Right.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
It's actually it's funny you mentioned that because I haven't
even told my family at recent events are going to
cause me to change my schedule again to where I'm
going to have to add back my mornings and my
evenings full days. Very soon, I won't be able to
attend Fridays anymore with this your class, so I need
to find other ways to get in that time with
you there.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
The bear is Bear is Joe Daddy's biggest stalker. Just
so you guys know, why do you make it work?
I just I'm going creepy with this now. The I
think that's fantastic. I think I love that you're always
trying to get that time. How important the time that
people put in I think makes a difference on anything.
It's like who you associate it with, What the time
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you put in right? Right?
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Ten thousand hours to master something as well, twenty hours
to feel comfortable. The fast you put that twenty hours
of development in, the more comfortable you'll be in, the
more likelihood you'll stick around for that ten thousand.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
That makes sense, you know, I do want to ask
them real quick.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
We're getting to the end, so I do want to.
So you come on, if you can give one piece
of advice. A lot of the people that watch this,
they are huge MMA fans. If you could give one
piece of advice to everyone watching, what would you give them?
What would you tell them?
Speaker 3 (49:06):
Not everyone that is telling you good stuff have good
intentions for you, and not everyone that is telling you
bad stuff has bad intentions for you. And don't believe.
Don't believe the hype.
Speaker 4 (49:19):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
I like that, But you'll buy into your own hype.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, never buy your own so getting high on your
own supply, you don't do that very much. Never buy
your hype. Well, especially now you look at social media
has become such an integral part of anything. It's the
guys following, not the most talented guys that get ahead.
So if you buy your own high, it's.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
A lot of breaking bad. You're correct, it's perfect.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
Now you can ask a question as long as they
know go follow Joe. We've got the advice that way
if we run.
Speaker 2 (49:49):
It was a bit selfish. It's about coaching because you
said somethingly interesting, which is you're not really as concerned
with correcting people even if they are making mistakes. It's
more like, don't get I don't want you to get hurt.
Do you find that bad for their journey through martial
arts progressing? Getting better than if you were standing there
kind of correcting the minute details.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
My oldest competing student is easy sixty six years old,
competing against forty year olds, you know, at a NAGA tournament.
My oldest students, I have two students that are seventy
two that are active in classes, my youngest. You know,
I'll have kids in my adult classes. The I think
(50:31):
that every circumstance is going to be different, and I
think that each person on their own journey is a
different thing required for everyone's fork that comes in the
road is going to happen at a different timeline, different time,
(50:51):
And is it always I need to watch out for
the safety of everyone. Almost yes, a large class, you know,
but the whole thing is with a small class, it's
pretty easy to watch the safety and you get to
watch the technique. The benefits of that are great, but
not being able to test yourself against other body types,
(51:14):
styles and stuff that holds you back. I mean blow
chart and it'd be like, well, if he does this,
I do this, but then if he does this, I
do that. So it's infinite. When it comes to everyone's
own development, I think for a standard, safety needs to
be considered first because you need to be able to
do it again. And integrity and character because you can
(51:39):
teach anyone how to punch somebody or how to choke somebody,
but without morality you're going to lack lack it in
the end.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
Now he's talking about sixty year old seventy year olds
in his class. We had bud flu. We got reported
to the CDC for like two weeks. It's why he
didn't come in. And I'm like, we actually they called
c DC on us because we were we got it's
all over palm springs and he was one of the
few cases of YEA, so he got BOTHO. I'm now
(52:10):
like and he was like really wanting to go into
class and he's like I can't, and I was like,
I'm sure it'll be fine now I get it. No,
I agree, you do not give elderly people bird flu.
Speaker 2 (52:21):
Well, that.
Speaker 3 (52:23):
It's the elderly if they have compromised immune systems, you know,
is one thing. But I mean also if you've been
raised your whole life like a wrestler, where like if
you're sick, you go to practice, she s tweet it
out and you build up a natural herd immunity. You know,
you're not really nervous about that.
Speaker 4 (52:43):
That makes sense. That makes sense. I can't believe they
report it to see.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
That's okay.
Speaker 4 (52:49):
We are at the end of the show. We have
about two minutes left. I'm going to say thank you
to our special guest Leroy and his pet human Joe
coming on the show. I'm sorry he's still the show,
is Joe? Is there anything you want to say to
everyone out there now?
Speaker 3 (53:08):
For youth MMA. I believe it's going to be the
twenty fifth and twenty sixth of April in uh In.
Where is that CARLSBD, California. It'll be to make the
United States team and compete in Abu Dhabi for the
IMAF World Championships. I like that, so I guess that's
a cool thing to throw down there.
Speaker 4 (53:30):
I like that. So, so you guys know this is
a secret. Nobody knows. We're actually negotiating with the King
of Nigeria for Joe to go out there and fight cowboys. Seroni,
who have been talking to about that, But nobody knows.
It's a secret, so don't tell uh.
Speaker 3 (53:44):
And so I have to find some time.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Yeah, you have to find a little a little time
in between what is it, dealing with the Olympics, dealing
with internationals, dealing with you are the busiest man I
have ever met.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
Yeah, this week has been very weak, very different, but
every week is kind of fun that way.
Speaker 2 (54:03):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (54:04):
I like that. I like that. Thank you so much
for coming on the show. I do want to say, guys,
Joe runs Cobra Kai in Victorville. Go follow them. Check
it out, and if you are anywhere around there, go
in for a class. It is one of the most
amazing places. These are incredible people. It's a positive vibe.
(54:25):
It's a great way to feel. But more than anything,
the people there are incredible.
Speaker 2 (54:31):
It's extremely rewarding.
Speaker 4 (54:34):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
Thank you for me sommer, Thank you, Jared. I can't
wait to see you. Am I going to see you tonight, sparing.
Speaker 2 (54:40):
I won't make it tonight's sparing. We're going to work
in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (54:42):
Well, I will see you next week, my friend.
Speaker 2 (54:44):
Yes, sir, all right, guys, how do you how do
you exit?
Speaker 4 (54:49):
I always I always love doing that. I love Joe,
So I got to tell you his coach is one
of my favorite people. And if I didn't like his
girlfriend so much, I'd leave you for him.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well, I'm kidding, you're that's assuming a lot on his
end though too.
Speaker 4 (55:02):
No, his girlfriend's in smotion. I will say that. Make
sure you guys are following Joe. I'm joking about all
of this. Joe is one of my favorite people. He
is one of the most selfless kind people I've ever met.
I know I all of my joking about Bear. I
understand why Bear cares so much for Joe, because Joe
cares so much for everybody else.
Speaker 5 (55:23):
And that's how it works. If you give them to
the world, the world will give unto you. And I'd
be in that moment. It's nine instant gratification thing. You
have to be that kind of person, which he is.
He's just that nice of a person.
Speaker 4 (55:32):
He does he changes the world so it looks like
is going to be in twenty twenty eight in the
Olympics involved for that. Nobody knows that either or about
him fighting for the king. So nobody knows any of
that except you guys now. But I will say, follow Joe.
He is absolutely incredible. And I think the entire future
(55:54):
of the sport is going to be about Joe.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
I know that sounds no, it makes sense that it's
where you put yourself.
Speaker 4 (56:01):
It is, it's and I think the future of the
sport Joe is writing the rules. Joe is one, you know.
I really think if you want to see where the
future of m m A is, look at Joe Daddy.
I'm just saying he's a daddy of the sport.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
All right, everyone, Joe, what is it?
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Joe daddy of m m A. Stevenson.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
We'll think of it.
Speaker 4 (56:20):
Yeah, we need a better we bet it need a
better tagline than that, all right. I am the baroness
Summer Helene, and this is my co host Pink Panties Fiorda.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
About that.
Speaker 2 (56:29):
It's bear fjorder, don't go, don't go look. If you
look at that at on Instagram wherever, you won't find
what you want.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
I bet you five bucks they can find a barren
pink panties, especially in Palm Springs. This one yes today,
so your thanks, thank you very much for joining us.
This is behind the scenes. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 2 (56:48):
Good midnight.
Speaker 1 (56:50):
This has been behind the scenes with the Baroness in
bear fjorder only on the talk for media.
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