Behind The Wand and Friends - Trey Beachum

This week Trey Beachum, better known as I Am Black Harry, is on the podcast. Trey is hilarious and there is honestly nothing he doesn't know about Harry Potter - just check out Harry Potter: Hogwarts Touranment of Houses if you need proof. As you will see in this conversation, Trey has such an infectious energy. The content he creates oulls you right into his version of the Wizarding World and you can't help but be captivated by it!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hi, guys, Welcome to episode three of Behind the wand
and Friends, a podcast where I speak to content creators
from the Wizarding World about all things to do with
the Harry Potter fandom. This week, my guest is Trey,
who you guys know as I Am Black Harry. Trey
is known for his super engaging and humorous take on

(00:33):
the Wizarding World. He likes to blend his love for
the series with sort of his unique perspective as a
black creator. He's widely celebrated for his witty and insightful
commentary on well not just Harry Potter anymore, but the
fantasy of the world of fantasy in general, which I

(00:53):
know his fans really really adore. I first met Trey,
I think three years ago so when he was so
kind and did an Instagram live with me to sort
of give me a chance to talk about the podcast
Behind the wand when it was first starting out. I
then got to meet him a couple of years later

(01:13):
in Chicago, and he truly is one of the most
authentic people I know, and I think that really comes
through in this conversation. So here is me chatting the tree. Okay,
let's start if we can go back to the very

(01:36):
very beginning of your Harry Potter relationship. What is the
first memory you have of Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
The first memory that I have of Harry Potter. So
I remember, I remember being in grade school and I
actually had a buddy of mine that gave me the book.
But I was scared to bring the book home because
that was when like magic in the schools out here
was they were banning the Harry Potter books from schools
and classrooms. So I remember being so scared to bring
this book home, and I was like I was a

(02:07):
class clown, like I was the troublesome kid, you know.
And I remember reading the book and it was the
first time I ever really felt like it's so cliche,
but it was the first time I ever felt like
I got lost in the book and I completely forgot
what was happening around me. And then I don't know
what had happened, but you know, I probably had to

(02:28):
like go like clean my room or something, and I
snapped out of it, and I was like WHOA, Like
I was in that world. And I think that that
kind of showed me that anytime that I felt like
I needed that escape, you know people talk about that escape,
but I really ran to the Harry Potter books, not
just books, but Harry Potter books, And I think it's
worth noting at that point in time, I hated reading.
I did not like reading whatsoever. It was all about

(02:52):
sports and reading just I just was like, who has
time to sit down and read a book if I
can watch TV or do all these other things. But
I do remember that anytime that I just needed a
mental reset or I needed to like recalibrate, or I
needed to get away and like, you know, figure out
life before I got back out into the world, the

(03:14):
book was there. And that was from book one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, I think that's like something that you know, in
other interviews I've done and people often say, like escapism
is like one of the main things they associate with
Harry Potter, And you know that just like whilst you're
reading the book about Harry and Ron Harmione, also just
being able to like visit yourself being there at Hogwarts
and like wanting that. And I feel like I was

(03:38):
desperate to get a letter saying I was.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
You actually feel are we all? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
You kind of just like I think that's such a
big part of it you really like a say, not
into just the story, but like the world of yeah,
you know, the Wizarding world. So that's good to know
because there's always like sort of two camps where the
people are like the book people or the film people.
You know what came first, the book or the film.
But are you would you say you're a book person
before a film person.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
You put me on the spot, so I my loyalty
is to the books. And a lot of detail was
left out of the movies. However, however, hindsight is always
twenty twenty. But I don't think the movies could have
been any better than they were now. We could add detail,

(04:30):
but for the time. For the people who came to
love this series because of the movies, I think they
hit the nail on the head because books and movies
are different, and people that are book readers and people
that are movie watchers they're looking for different things, and
you catch attention in a different way, and you don't
have the same amount of time like book readers. Some
book readers say hey, you have twenty pages to sell me.

(04:52):
Some say hey, i'll give it one book. With a movie,
it's like, okay, hey, I paid for this movie. I'll
watch this movie, but am I gonna stick around? I
got to wait a whole nother year, two years before
I watched the next movie. So I really think that
for me, I would say that I'm a book person,
but I think the movies, Oh, I'm gonna catch it

(05:12):
for this, I think the movies solidified, yea, my love
of the series in a way that the books couldn't.
The books, I was there, but for somebody like me,
like I have attention deficits, so I can read and
I can escape, but still imagination for me is sometimes
hard because my brain goes everywhere and to have a

(05:35):
you know, so to have a world, and then some
people don't like being spoon fed you know, what an
individual looks like or whatever. But for me to see
the cast, for me to see the world, you know,
from a visual perspective, it kind of concreted like, hey, okay,
this is this is what I want, and some of
it was like hey that's exactly how I saw it,
you know. Yeah, So yeah, I would say I would

(05:57):
say I'm a book person absolutely, because I always make
videos talking about the movies and I always stick to
the books. And it's true right, Yeah, but I don't.
I love the movies.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, and like you've got to remember as well, with
like the movies, it was like especially in terms of
like how filmmakings progressed. I think they were great for
the time they were made in terms of like of
you know, creating magic on screen. But yeah, it's so true.
Do you know what I've got? Really like not a
great imagination when it comes to like reading, And I

(06:33):
do love like, so I've just finished reading like the
Akatar series and now like my algorithms like all Akatar.
But there's obviously all these like AI like created videos
of like these places like Volaris and stuff like that,
and I actually do love seeing it. I'm like, oh, yeah,
that's what it would look like. So yeah, I can understand.
There's definitely there's a joy of having like a book

(06:55):
but then solidifying it with like absolutely film. How do
you get from there to what you do now online
with your content creation?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Oh? It was a journey, so I think. So I
went from like I said, we read the book. I
read the books. You know, the movie started coming out
obviously before the series was completed, watched the movie, said Hey,
I really like this as I got, I would say
too closer to college university age, we opened up like

(07:28):
our Orlando, our Wizarding World parks, and so I was like,
oh my gosh, like the love for it came to
me all over again. But now I get to experience
it myself, and it's on your own time because you're
in the parks, right, And so I think for me,
I was really excited to be there. But I will
tell you that one thing that I noticed is and
again it's it's it's it's kind of cliche, but it's

(07:51):
it's I think it's a necessity. I still did not
see a lot of people that look like me walking
around the parks in the Wizarding World, right, And so
I always joke with my friends, with my wife, I'm like, hey, like,
I'm this big, black, tattooed guy that likes to work
out and play sports and do all these things. And
even my friends that played sports at me, like, like you're
reading Harry Potter, you know, But there's so many people

(08:15):
not just that look like me, but that don't necessarily
see themselves in the films or in the books that
are like, hey, I love this, but it would it
would it would just do so much more for me
if I felt like there was more believability that someone
like me could be in that world. And so I
started my Instagram page and I was like, what username
do I use? Like I have no idea what I

(08:35):
want to use here, and I was like, what better
than just going with black Harry because I was like,
I'm a big Harry Potter fan. Harry Potter is one
of my favorite characters. I'm black, surprised, I am black Harry.
That's it. So I just started posting like skits with
me in it, and it wasn't overdone, like hey, I'm
the black Harry Potter. But I think people saw me

(08:56):
doing these skits and they were like, hey, that's kind
of different. And so it kind of caught on and
I had people reaching out to me and like the
big thing for me early on, because you know, when
you start out even now, people are like, oh, you're
a content creator. I don't feel like a content creator.
That makes you feel like an imposter, but you know, like,
I just make videos. I've always done it. And I

(09:16):
remember parents would reach out and say, oh my gosh,
like my son like he's a big fan of yours.
You know he's a young black kid and he likes
Harry Potter and like, we watch all your videos and
he wants to be like you. And I'm like, I
don't want to be like me. But I am so
happy though that I don't think I created that space
for people, but I think that if I can help
bring awareness that that space exists for other people, then

(09:41):
that's why I do it. And it's a It's definitely
been a challenge though, because I would say for content creators,
I wouldn't call myself a comedian. But I just talk
like I don't like some people have like scripted whatever,
Like if I read a book, if I'm talking, I
just go. But I tell people that. So if I ever,
like make a mistake in a video and like hey,

(10:02):
and I'm like yeah, like look, I give you ninety
seconds of me. So if I overspeak or I misspeak,
like I'll own it. But you're getting me and what's
in my head, Like I didn't write this out. And
the funny thing is is because I do so much
comedy in my page and that's just natural to me.
Even in high school, people always thought that comedy and
intellect could not mesh right and it was almost like, oh,

(10:26):
here's the funny kid, the class clown. But I was
always that kid that made jokes and kids were like
voted me class clown and they didn't think I was smart,
but the teachers would see my grades and go, oh,
this kid, it's always playing, but he knows what he's doing. Yeah,
And I think that's the same thing with the content
creator space. It's like, I think once you get to
a point where you're like, I don't really want to

(10:47):
prove myself. I just want to, you know, stay in
love with the content. Don't make it work. Don't make it.
You know. I don't want to go, Okay, let me
hit record on this camera and start a video. But
it's like, hey, you're just gonna get me. If you
like it, you like it. If you don't, you don't.
I want you to feel safe. I want you to,
you know, enjoy this page or this world that I've created.

(11:09):
But if it's not for you, I get it, right,
Like everybody's not for everybody. But I think that that's it.
I think that's really where the dynamic for me worked out,
And that's kind of why I don't do as many
actual skits I used to do skits of scenes, but
I just got to a point where I was like, hey,

(11:30):
like I want to show me I'm as opposed to
just you know, recreating something that's already been created in
that way, and I think that that's allowed me to
have the room to showcase who I am as a
person outside of just I am Black Harry. People are
starting to see trade more, I think totally.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And am I right in thinking that over the last
few years your account has really grown.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
It has, Yeah, it has, And I think that's.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Because, like, you know, we've met in person, and I think, like,
you're so it's the what you see is what you get,
Like you are so genuine, and I think it's so
real and there's you are just you. You are just
giving people, which you know is amazing. And I think
like as well, to touch on what you said about
visibility and you know, diversity and stuff like that, I
think that is just, like, you know, so important right now.

(12:21):
And I think like, but you're obviously, you know, a
kind of ahead of that wave. I guess that, you know,
I think we're talking about that so much now when
it's coming to this series. But this is something you
pointed out years ago saying, you know, you want to
see more representation of different people Harry pots of stories.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Yeah, no, I really appreciate that. And yeah, so we
I think maybe twenty sixteen, maybe we started an account
me and a couple other creators called Masterful Magical Minorities.
And it wasn't just racial minority from a racial minority perspective.
It was just anyone who felt like they were in
the minority and way ever category subcategory. And again it

(13:04):
was just about creating I say that space, but I
just think it's so important for people to be able
to see themselves in something. And you know, people go
back and I'll just be transparent. I think people go
back and to go Man. You know, I watched the
Harry Potter movies and I only saw them. You know,

(13:26):
I only heard like two lines from one of the
black characters or Kingsley should have been on screen more.
And I'm only saying the black characters from my perspective.
But the world is the world, right, Like I fell
in love with the world for what it was. It's
to me it's easy to go back and say, hey,
like they should have did this, they should have did that.
But to me, like we can control now, right, And

(13:47):
I think that that is why the creator space is
so important, because you start seeing different things. And when
we're not doing skits, when we're doing you know, we're
actually talking about how we feel about the series or
what we want to see in the series, or putting
our own spin on it. You start seeing how different
cultures react to the same body of work, just like

(14:11):
when somebody tell you know, they say there's three sides
to every story, Like, you know, we can all watch
the same movie and we're going to have different takeaways.
We can read the same book, we have different takeaways.
So yeah, but yeah, I mean, I do think that
that's something we've been pushing for a really long time.
And whether it's me or another content creator, as long
as someone is seeing that, then I feel like, hey, job,
well done, mission successful. But it's definitely a work in progress.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
And can you remember the first sort of video or
piece of content that you put out that really got
like a big reaction that you were like, oh, okay,
like I'm onto something here. This is people are liking this,
so you know, can you remember that first sort of like.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yeah, so so okay, So when I started doing the skits.
I was like, Okay, so people are kind of liking this.
But I will say I think that outside of me
and my buddy Jerald, who doesn't post as much he
was the dapper Minister of Magic for a while, there
weren't black male creators in the Harry Potter space. I
still think I can count on one hand the ones

(15:11):
that I know they're actually, you know, posting in this space,
not just fans but creators. But I posted there's that
what's the name of the song, the Old Town Road song? Yeah, yeah,
I posted a crossover. So I used to do music
long before I was a content creator, So I started

(15:31):
doing remixes of songs and I posted that song. And
I'm not gonna say it's silly because I know that
I'm blessed to have the page that I have. But
I remember like overnight it got like fifty thousand views,
and I was like, oh my gosh, like I'm a
content creator, like I'm made, and I was checking my
phone every five seconds I would see it go up
like thirty views, and I was like, I'm quitting my job,

(15:52):
like this is But I think that that is where
I started going, Hey, you may have some thing here,
but I will tell you Flick. You know, I mentioned
imposter syndrome early on, and to me, I'm starting to
feel like a content creator now only because I'm bringing

(16:13):
me to the table. And I think when I was
bringing just a song or a skit, it just didn't
feel like it was Trey. So I was very appreciative
of the like the views and the comments and the
engagement that these posts got people that have always followed me.
But I just feel like now I turn on the

(16:33):
camera and I just say, Okay, I'm just gonna let
it go. And then when people relate to that, that
makes me feel so much better than you know, I
spend four days trying to plan out a video and
then I finally get a thirty second video up, and
every content creator knows how it goes. The video you
spend three days on gets no views, and the one
that you just post and you're like, this is gonna
do terrible goes viral.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah. Like, I mean, I'm not a content creator by
any means, but like I obviously how to do the podcast,
and I try all these like snippets and I put
them out and you know they do they do well,
Like I'm not saying that they don't perform. And then
like the same thing, like one day, I was like,
I'm just going to put some of my old like
Harry Potter photos out and I did like a thirty
second thing some music like Nothing Flash and it's got

(17:16):
like millions of views that I was like, oh okay,
like yeah, this is it. But you know it's it's yeah,
it's funny. It's like what you don't think, well, well not,
you don't think there's the things you just put out
there that you're like, oh okay, but then you never
know what people respond to and what they don't. Really,
it's always like a kind that's why you just got
to make the content that you love. That's what I think, Like,

(17:37):
that's what I do, Like if I'm ever questioning like
an interview or you know, who I'm trying to speak
to or I'm trying to get and just think like
what would I love to see and like who would
I love to hear from? And that's why I sort
of just think if you follow your gut, you can't
go wrong. And then if you're doing that, it honestly
doesn't matter whether it gets one hundred views or a
thousand views or one hundred thousand because you've created something

(17:58):
that you're proud of and and that you you love. Really, so,
what is the biggest challenge when it comes to making
the sort of content that you that you make?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So I think the biggest challenge is staying true to yourself.
But understand but understanding that at a certain level, people
see you as a content creator, and as a content creator,
you are very bound to the content you create. And
it sounds a little crazy, but it's kind of like
you said, content creators know that there's such thing as

(18:31):
a formula, right, And it doesn't mean it's inauthentic, right,
But you know they always tell you in the most
this this most simplistic form of content creator is you
post videos. The video that does well, you stick to
that recipe until you know it doesn't do well. And
a lot of times the video that does well is
the video that you're like, I didn't even like that video,

(18:52):
and Alex go viral, and so you become this person
that you know. I wouldn't say that that is not
I would it's inorganic, but I would say that sometimes
you're like, this isn't what I want to be posting.
For me, the Harry Potter fandom has actually helped me

(19:13):
evolve into you know what I feel like I am
today as a content creator because I was so into
discussing the movies that like, I wanted to get back
to the books. I wanted to get back to reading
in general. So I started doing you know, books versus movies,
and that allowed me to crack open a book and
talk about a book on screen and not just talk
about the movies, talk about the differences, but also letting

(19:37):
people know like, hey, there's benefits to both, and being
a movie watcher that doesn't read books doesn't make you
less of a Harry Potter fan than the book reader
who doesn't watch movies. And people will tell you all
day that that's wrong, but it's not because even for me,
like I am, I have dyslexia and I have attention deficit.
So people are like, oh, like, how do you remember
all this stuff from the books? And it's because I

(19:58):
have to read it many times over because I can
read something and go, what did you just read it?
I'm like, I have no idea because it's a struggle,
Like I get exhausted.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So aside from sort of the Instagram and the Instagram
page and your social media.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You also did hardboards Tournament of House.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yes, so how did that come about? Did they come
did they approach you?

Speaker 2 (20:18):
So they actually put out some fillers. I don't know
who got a hold of it first, but they put
out some fillers within the Harry Potter community. You're like, hey,
we have this new show coming out HBO. Max is
going to be hosting get Helen Mirren is going to
be the host on the show. I'm like, yeah, this
is fake, this is not this is not really, you know.
And I had, Yeah, I had two friends that put

(20:39):
in early and they're like, hey, I got to email
back and they said they're going to contact me and
they might ask me a few questions during like you know,
just to kind of like a vetting process. And I
was like, well, I mean, if you think it's real,
like it doesn't hurt me to put my name in.
But I was like, I feel like I'm about to
give all my information to some scammer and like, you know,
lose all my money or something. So I put in

(21:02):
and it was literally it was like I don't know,
if you know, like those air tables, it was like
a little five questionnaire like what's your name, do you
have social media? One to ten? How big of a
Harry Potter fan are you? And do you think that
you like what level of Harry Potter knowledge do you
think you have? And so, like I filled it out

(21:23):
and this game show I thought was going to be
like Jeopardy style, like you know, one person, one person,
one person going against each other. And I got to
email back and they're like, hey, we want to set
up a FaceTime call with you or you know, and
I was like okay. So I got on the call
and they're like, hey, are you a Harry Potter fan.
I'm like yeah, like that's all I do is Harry Potter.
And they're like, oh, well do you have social media?

(21:44):
I'm like yeah, They're like, well what is it. I'm like,
I am black Harry. I promise it's not weird. They're
like okay, They're like, well, hey, this is gonna be
really quick. We wanted to keep the camera on so
that we could see you, and we just wanted to
ask you some questions without you being able to look
things up. They asked I think like ten questions. I
would say they were pretty like standard initially, and then

(22:07):
the last couple got pretty hard. I mean like I
remember having to really like scrape my brain. I think
I missed like the last one, and they were like,
I don't worry about it, like everybody's missed that one,
Like not a big deal, but we'll call you back.
And then the second time they called me, I had
to do five questions, but they were there were some
hard questions that I was just like, look, if I'm

(22:29):
not going to get in, like, it's fine, but I
consider myself pretty privy when it comes to Harry Potter, Yeah, trivia.
And then after that, you know, they said they were
going to start filming, but then COVID hit and they
were like, hey, like we don't know how we're gonna
do this, but this is obviously the first time we've
ever had this show. We don't know what it's going
to look like, but we would like you to, you know,

(22:51):
come out to LA and we're going to bring you know,
a bunch of people out we'll see who actually makes
the show. So again I'm like, Okay, we're gonna get there.
And I tried for Jeopardy as a kid, so I
was like, oh, well, we're just going to go in there,
ask us some questions, and you know, we'll work our
way up through the process. We got there and they
had like nine to twelve people per house competing and

(23:16):
we were competing in team style, so I didn't know
it was going to be team style. And also like
for the people who have seen the show, there's a
moment at the very beginning where you like they call
our names to be on the team to represent the
house that was on the spot live in the moment,
Like that wasn't scripted. Like we were sitting there, we
were like, you're either.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
A people that could have been on gr Fender and
you didn't know who was going to get picked out
of those twelves. When they called your name, you were like,
oh my gosh, I've actually made it absolutely.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Oh god. So the other nine people from your house, yeah,
that you met while you were there, Like they just
went home after that. So you're sitting there, Yeah, you're
sitting there and you're like, I'm either going home or
I'm finishing the show out. And it was also like
I think that you know, it was also weird, like
they didn't want to keep people around because of COVID
and they were trying to make sure they could keep shooting.

(24:06):
So but yeah, I've had people ask me like you
knew you were going to be on the show, and
I'm like, oh, we did not. We did not. We
had no idea. And so for my team, we talk
about visibility and seeing yourself. The two people picked before me,
we're both black females, and I was like, oh, they're
not putting me on this team. I hate to be funny,
but I was like, I hate to be funny, but

(24:27):
I was like, this is TV. I was just like,
this is TV. There's too many black people on this
team and we're gryffindor. I'm like, there's no way, And
sure enough, they called my name and I was like
in utter disbelief because I was like, are you guys sure?
Like there's three of us out here, and they're like, nah,
come down. So it was a really good experience. Though
I am not a shy person by nature, Helen Mirren

(24:50):
is definitely a presence like that was very interesting having
her host. But no, it was a very fun experience.
I had never done any kind of filming from like
a game show starting point, so that was that was
very different, very different, especially for a show that had
never aired, so like we were learning how to play

(25:12):
as you go.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, like you didn't know that you weren't going on
to something you knew the rules of. Like okay, right,
that's so funny because there's this like Channel four in
the UK, which is just like a big channel. They
had like they have this like YouTube and this company
does like little promos for the Studio Tour and they

(25:34):
create like a game show in the Studio Tour. They
did it last year, they were doing it this year
and then this year they were like the concept is
like the Chase, which I don't know if you have
in the US. I guess not. It's like you take
on an expert, like the public. Members of the public
take on like these experts, and theirs is just in
general knowledge. But they were like, we kind of want
to do this game that people who don't know about
Harry Potter, like kind of like influencers come to the

(25:57):
Studio Tour learn everything and then take on some experts
and like we want to know like maybe you could
be one of the experts, so you know, and you're
like hmm okay, like am I gonna like blag this
and be like yeah, like yeah, I could definitely do it,
or am I like no, I can't do this. So anyway,
I was like yeah, great, like sounds great. Anyway, they

(26:19):
were like, we don't know what Warner Brothers wants, like
whether they we've got like you as a podcaster. There's
also like a film critic and there's someone else. Anyway,
they didn't ask me to do In the end, they
went with the film critics. They went in a different direction,
which is like fine. But when I watched back, I
was like, thank god they didn't ask me to do it.
I would not have known. They would have been like
this girl doesn't. So I'm like, thank gosh they didn't

(26:43):
ask me, because it's been like embarrassing because like I
said to you, so sort of like when we were
actually spoke a little bit before we were recording, is
that I'm just I feel like I live in the
Harry Potter past of like the film and actually like
sort of I don't know like the I think like
I don't know how to explain it, Like there's just

(27:04):
people have just such a deep knowledge and understanding of
the Wizarding World that I'm just like not up to
that scratch so that's why I'm like so like just
trying to learn now, and it's just like I would
have really embarrassed myself. So I think maybe someone was
looking down on me when they go in a different
direction because it would have been humiliating.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
I mean, well, I agree with that because that was
the thing. So, you know, when you're on a national stage,
you're like, any basic question is a hard question when
the lights are on and you're like okay, and you're
I am black, hairy, and you're like, if I missed
this question, my content creator world is gone. So but
the thing is, though it's the same thing. So you

(27:47):
know a lot of us know the books well, and
we know the films, and some of us might go
deeper into you know, Wizarding World website which used to
be Potter More and all that kind of stuff. But
like on the show they had us come down and like, hey,
select which prop is the real prop? I'm like, how

(28:08):
do I prepare for that? There's no way, Like that's
not trivia. I mean I know this, So like we
start sweating. I'm sweating. I'm on stage and I'm like
there's no way, and I'm walking down to go look
at them, and I'm like, it doesn't matter how close
I get to these props, I don't know which one
it is.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Right next to it, I still right.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
I was looking at my team and we're all looking like, hey,
your guess is as good as mine. So there was
a couch we had to guess, like the couch that
Hermione's parents sat on when she obliviated them and Deathly
Hallows and we missed that question. And I cannot watch
that movie without getting some piece of post traumatic stress. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(28:50):
it was. It was interesting. But yes, I could definitely
feel your somebody was looking over me because I had
some moments of this is not going to be good.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh my gosh, it's just such But like you said,
there is just so many I mean, it's not like
you said, it's not just it's not just knowing a
book inside out. If you're truly embedded in the Wizarding World,
like it is just such an expanse but so amazing.
But it's such a great fandom to be part of
because it has that I think that you can there's

(29:21):
so many avenues to explore. So okay, if we move
a little bit onto the future of Harry Potter and
the series. So I've been quite open that at first
about the series, I was a little bit like, oh,
I don't know. Now I'm excited because it's like Harry
Potter newness, and I'm just like never not going to
be excited about new Harry Potter content. What is your

(29:44):
opinion or stance on the series.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I think for me, I am extremely excited about the
new series. A lot of people are like, no, like,
leave it where it's at. But I think that if
you want something to stay true to the books, gonna
give you more coverage. They're talking about, you know, a
book being covered by a season and we have a
lot more time. It's supposed to be an HBO production,

(30:10):
which Game of Throngs. There's a lot of productions on
HBO that I'm a big fan of. Same, I love it.
I do think that people are going to say it's
going to be make or break based off casting. So
for me specifically, you know, I think that the cast
should be unknown actors and actresses everything.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Everyone.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, Oh wow, Okay, I do, Like I mean, don't
get me wrong, Like I think a snape of like
oh Man Adam Driver would be a good Snape, and
I like, there's there's there's there's a look, there's the
there's people who I feel like they they're acting there,
their mannerisms are similar. But to me, I think when
it gets too close to trying to replicate the original,

(30:59):
that's when problems come in. And I think when you
create something new, but you stick to the foundation, which
is the books, you can't go wrong. People are initially
gonna go Okay, who are these people? But they'll grow,
They'll grow to know them as that character or that role.
And I think when somebody is already they have a
name and they have a style and you know, I

(31:22):
know that person from so and so or whatever, it's
really hard to break that stigma or that tie. And
so if I saw you know, Golden Trio that was
you know, three young kids that I was like, I've
never seen them before. They're going to grow to be Yeah,
those roles in my opinion, I mean just like I
didn't know it. I mean, I know they had careers prior,

(31:44):
but like Daniel Radcliffe, I was not privy to him
prior to Harry Potter, and unfortunately he grew into that.
I mean, it was a great series obviously, but he
grew into that role so well that he's probably frustrated
with the fact that people still don't call him by
his real name half the time, and they call him
Harry Potter and he's like, hey, that's not my name.
But to me, like, for a series, especially one you know,

(32:09):
as influential as the Harry Potter series, I think that
if you just start from the ground up and you say, Okay,
this is what we got, You're not going to know
any of these people in these roles because I'm introducing
this world to you that they already exist in, not
someone from your from your world that I'm putting into
this world. I think it would be perfect. And I
think as long as they hit you know, key points

(32:31):
and we see, like Peeves, some of the jokes we
see Ron's lines are true to the books that show
that he actually has some intelligence, right, He's not just
the comic relief, you know. I think that it just
it goes way deeper. And so I hear people saying,
you know, we don't need this, we need the Marauder

(32:52):
spinoff we need and I think that would be amazing too. However,
we're working off something that already exists. We have the product,
we just need to put it on screen. And I
also think that if we have a foundation of this,
then it would make more sense for a Marauder spin
off to come out of this than it is to

(33:14):
try to come out of the movies and just have
a Marauder spin off out of nowhere. So I think
you lay the foundation again and then you can branch
out from there. I mean, very similar to the stuff
that I mean. I I am a Star Wars fan too,
not like I am Harry Potter, but I do believe
there's a such thing as like oversaturation, and it's like, okay,
like too much is going on? Too much? I like,

(33:39):
because the more you have, the more you start, you know,
things start contradicting other things and you're like, wait, that
can't happen if that's happening in the same Magic system
or universe. Yeah, but no, I am like, I'm not
gonna lie. I'm extremely excited about the series. I think
it's gonna be great, and I just I'm ready for
I'm just ready for it to be new in a

(34:01):
way that you know. I know, you're a parent, like
I'm a parent, like I want my kids to be
able to have Harry Potter from start for them, and
I just wanted to stay true to the books. But
it doesn't erase you know, Emma and you know Rupert
and Dan. It doesn't erase you know, the people that

(34:21):
came before them. And I think I think people feel like, oh,
it's going to ruin the series. It's not. The series
is forever there. You know the work y'all did all that.
I mean, that's that's concreted in history. It's legendary. It's
not going anywhere. But I think that at some point
this this is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
It's always going to happen. It was always going to happen.
They were going to remake it in some and you're right, like,
I do think you can in two years time sit
down and enjoy the series and still enjoy the films.
You don't have to pick one or the other. And
I think it feels like people are like, no, we
have to either love the films or love the same
But I'm hoping there's something that there's a duality that

(35:02):
you're going to be able to love but both. You know,
obviously people probably have favorites, but but it's so interesting.
I actually hadn't thought about this is what you said.
But obviously not that Harry Potter is for children. We
quite can clearly show that it is not. But when
it first came out, it was obviously a children's book

(35:22):
that was being adapted. So when children were going to
watch it, watch Harry Potter, like I always say that
when we were on set and we were filming and
someone would be like, that's Alan Rickman, that's Maggie Smith.
When you're ten, you're like who, like who? I don't know?
I don't know. I don't know who Gary Oldman is.
I've never seen these films, you know, like your when

(35:45):
you're ten, like your celebrities are, like people are on
like Saturday Morning TV and like Kids TV. You don't
know these like Academy Award with is like huge, like
stage and screen like British you know asted. But what's
interesting is now the children, like us are grown up.

(36:07):
We will know the actors, you will know the people
playing if they do cast names. So it sort of
creates that problem. Not that adults weren't back when the
film was out watching the film, but I think like
Harry Potter is really because it's like we've grown up
with it. It's in this weird thing that yes it
is a children's book, but it is so deeply cemented
in this adult These adults probably around the same major

(36:29):
of us, like in their thirties, you know that like
love the story. So it's going to be difficult because
when we were watching it, Yeah, you might have known
Alan Rick and I think he was in like Prince
of the or was he in Robin Hood I think,
and like people there was like children had like watch that,
but like yeah, I just think like I remember my
mum being like that's that person. I've like, Mum, I

(36:50):
literally don't know who that is, Like I've got Rick
Male who I don't know who that So it's it's
so yeah, it's just going to be so interesting. I'm
just like dying to know who who who They're going
to cast. I just keep seeing like so many rumors.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh, I know, every five minutes, and I really hope
that it's a new cast. But I won't even say.
At first, I was in support of like cameo appearances
from you know, the original cast, But I think I
think that's a dangerous game too, because I think you
start I think the overlap is where the comparison is
going to come in. Now, will it buy you a

(37:31):
little more credibility because they're like, well, hey, if they
did it, then if they're in it, then it does
tie to the world the same. But it also takes
away the originality from the new series if they say, hey,
this is this was so and so. You know it
was role in the first one and now they're playing
a completely different role in the second one. And I
think that that or in the series, and I think

(37:52):
that that could be a problem.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
But talking about HBO adaptations, have you watched The Last
of Us?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yes? Right?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
So that has little easter eggs in it of people
from the game being in the series but not as
who they are. So I'm gonna I watched this is
like a long time ago. So I'm trying to think
the girl in it, the girl who's played by Bella Ramsey.
I can't remember what's the little girl's name in it.

(38:24):
I'm gonna have to google. I'm gonna have to google.
It's Jolin, right, what's the little girl? Little girl in
the Last of Us? Ellie, Ellie. Okay, So there's a
flashback in the series and it's like on her. It's
about her mum and she's obviously giving birth to hers

(38:46):
in the past. The girl who is plays the mum
is the girl that the video character is based on.
Sense do you see what I'm saying. So, when they
did all the motion capture for the girl Ellie in
the game, in the CV program, she plays the mum.
So it's like these little like easter eggs. And I
think there's a few other people who voiced people in

(39:06):
the game that then came back as different characters, and
I kind of feel like I would like little easter
eggs like that. That's not in your face. It's not like, oh,
I know people are saying like, oh Tom Felton should
come back as like Lucius Malfoy. I think that's too literal.
I think that's too obvious. But like little little things,
I would quite like that if you're like a real

(39:27):
super fan, like people who were like super fans of
the game would then know that that was like that
was in the series. But right just your view, I
kind of feel like I would love that.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Kind of feel like a few really subtle things I
would like. But I think if it goes too literal,
it's just a really dangerous territory of just being like
we don't need what we've already got. I am like
excited to see like a like not adaptation of.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
It, but.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
I agree so well.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
I was gonna ask you if you could have like
one dreamcasting in the series, but I guess you don't
really have one if you're kind of wanting to go unknown.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
No I need you.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Need all unknown. I'm yeah, I kind of agree with you.
I think like that is that is fun. Okay, right,
let me just check what I I've got some Okay,
these are what I'm calling very millennial fun questions. Probably
not very fun, but yeah, it starts easy, and I

(40:33):
think I already know well, I already know the answer.
But in case anybody doesn't, what house are you in?

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Oh, Griffin? Are there other houses?

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I know exactly. Even though I was speaking the other
day and I said this that, I was like, I
always say that I'm for Findled, but I actually don't
know if I am. I think I just want to
be so well, It's true, I would just tell this
sort of thing, I like, not slip not that would like
be me, but I would be like not any of
the other ones. Okay, great, Okay, if you could brew
one potion or use one spell in real life, what

(41:04):
would it be? And why?

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Oh a potion or a spell? M probably you know.
I think I'm going with some Felix felises. I think
I need the liquid love. Yeah. I don't even know
what I would do with it. I feel like I
would waste it on something ridiculous, or I'd like go
get a lottery ticket or something. But I definitely think

(41:29):
that's just the one that I would need because it
spelled like there's some amazing spells, but it just so
won and done, you know.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah, Okay, what's your favorite Harry Potter book? And then
what's your favorite Harry Potter movie?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
And why? Oh? All right, So I'm gonna go with
what my favorite book and movie was for the longest
because it changes from time to time. I think, hands
down the best. Oh gosh, can I break it into
best and favorite? Yeah? Okay, yeah, okay, I think I'll

(42:05):
go with movie first. So I think the best movie
is Prisoner of Azkabat. Yeah, Now, my favorite movie was
Prisoner of Azkaban. I think as I've gotten older, just
because of the tone, of it. For some reason, I'm
so poled to Half Blood Prints. It's something about the
tone of that movie in the way they filmed it.

(42:25):
Book Wise, I would have to say either Order of
the Phoenix or Half Blood Prints because there's so much detail.
There's so much detail and it just connects so many
dots for you, which is why. Honestly, if they did

(42:47):
a season in a new series per book, like, I'm like, hey,
Order the Phoenix could have two seasons. Realistically, I'm not
gonna beggars can't be choosers.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
But no, but do you not think like I feel like,
and this is something again like I'm going you know,
I said, I dipping my tee back into the fandom
that it's like Justice the Order of the Phoenix, because
I think it's a lot of people's least favorite film.
But they're like, the book is amazing, So hopefully the
series we're gonna be like the true like brilliance of
Order of the Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yes, if they do it, yeah, I agree, if they
do it right, I think that people's favorite, like their
favorite list is just gonna do this. Yeah yeah, yeah,
we gonna do this. But but I do think that
you know, for the for the Potterheads, if you will

(43:36):
we watch the first two films now because we grew
up with them and we're in love with them. I
think having to readjust and recognize that the first two
films are a lot lighter, they're a lot more magical,
they are younger films. I think we're gonna kind of
have to just, you know, bear down and say, hey,
let the world come to you, because it's a story

(43:57):
you already know. So I think the first two films
is really gonna about if they stick to the books,
there will be buy in. As long as we get
up to the part where, you know, Prisoner of Azkamando
starts getting darker and a little more serious, I think
that you will have full buy in from Potterheads. On
that note, I would say that my yeah, favorite book, Yeah,

(44:18):
a favorite book would have to be Order. It would
have to be Order of the Phoenix. Have to yeah, yeah,
I'm going with the Order of the Phoenix. And I've
heard people say that their favorite book is I'm about
to I'm gett in trouble of this. I heard people
say Chamber of Secrets is our favorite book, and I
think that is insane. It makes no sense say people

(44:41):
I had. I had a video and I basically was
ranking books. Everybody was like, you know, I would start
with Chamber of Secrets, And as soon as they said that,
I was like, I'm not responding to this person. I
might block this person. We have nothing to say to
each other. Yeah, we're gone, clearly you need help. But yeah, no,
I don't see it. But I know everybody read things again,
they see things differently, but all of the Phoenix definitely

(45:04):
underappreciated when it came to them. Will be adaptation.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, And it's so funny with like just going back
to Chamber of Secrets quickly. But I also have like
a bit of a grudge when I watch it because
Hermione's not in.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
A lot of it.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
So I used to just go to studios and have
to just go to school and just go to school,
and I wouldn't be filming. So I would just go
in and go to school, and I would see like
Harry and Ron filming, and like, you know, even if
you're filming for like I did I did four years,
you still want to be filming every day. Like that
never goes away. The hype of going on set and
being on set filming. You never get bored of that.

(45:41):
There was never a point where I was like, I
don't really want to go onto set. It was always that.
So being at the studios, not being and like doing
your hair and makeup and just being there for school
was torture because her mind is obviously like petrified by
the bloody basilisk, isn't she. I was like, oh yeah,
I know, I'm like, ah, annoying, like she's not doing anything.
They don't need me. They actually did take a cast

(46:02):
of my body to be the petrified Tomione, So what's
that be here? I'm God justice for me in the
third film because that then it happens to Ron because
he obviously goes gets to take dragged by serious and
goes to the hospital wing and then it's like Harry
and Hermione. So then on the third film with like
the Ron double, I was like, ha ha, shame on you.

(46:24):
Now I'm with Harry Hermione and Harry have got it
going on, and Ron is like get gone. But it
was the best movie exactly exactly. Oh yeah, so that
always makes me laugh. Okay, if you could spend a
day in any location from the Wizarding World, where would
it be.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
And we're talking about Okay, so actual a Wizardy World location.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Okay, anywhere that's in the you know, it could be
like diagon Alley, it could be I don't I don't
think you can say Hogwarts. I think you're gonna say Hogwarts.
It has to be a specific place in what's like
the Great Hall or common Room, but yeah, or wherever.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Okay, this is actually a really good question, and as
simple as it is, I've never been asked this question before.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
An exclusive for me.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Oh my gosh. Okay, So diagon Alley is great. But
I think because like you know, you get to kind
of experience hit it, like uh, you know, universal and
stuff like that, I feel like I've already kind of
gotten a piece of that, same as hogs meat, and
I think hogs meat would be fantastic. But I think

(47:43):
if I was in the world, I think if I
was truly in the world, not so much of the place,
but the vibe, I think I would either want to experience,
like like a feast or a sorting ceremony in the
Great Hall or outside of like breaking an arm or something.

(48:07):
I think I would like to be actively in a
quidditch match on the quidditch pitch. I think that's a
good one that just experiences that, like, yeah, either people
in that world. Not everybody gets that exactly.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Not everybody gets to be on the quidditch team. That's
yeah for sure. Okay, great, now I've got my I
don't know why I'm calling them quick five questions, and
it's would you it's more like would you rather questions? Okay, sure, yeah,
they're not that hard. But first one, would you rather
have a pet hippogriff or a pet? Festal?

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Can I see the.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
How of it? Nothing bad has to have happened for
you to see the Festal.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Okay, I'm going, I'm going hippogriff hippogriph?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Yeah, which, yeah? Exactly? Would you rather have? Who would
you rather have as bestie? Harry Ron or Hermione?

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Oh? Books or movies?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Would it change between books and movies?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Well? They again they do My boy Ron dirty like
Ron does not come across the way that he should
in the books.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
So bestie but not film on not.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Film Ron, film, Ron's loyal film Ron. I wouldn't be
my bestie because we're too much alike. We're way too
much alike, and I think there'd be too much comedy
and sarcasm and all that kind of good stuff. I
think Hermione balances the trio out, which would be good

(49:47):
for me. And maybe I'm saying that because I do
feel like I closely relate to Ron so maybe Hermione.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yeah, yeah, that love that, Okay? Would you rather spend
the day? The whole day? It is like twenty four
hours with Bellatrix the Strange or Dolores's Umbridge.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Oh Bellatrix, Oh gosh, wait, hold on, take that back.
Uh Bellatrix, bel Trix hundred percent?

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Yeah, I think so too, Like I kind of wrote
that one, but I was like, hmmm, I think Bellatricks
are Strange would definitely be more interesting than Delora's Ombridge.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Yeah, I mean, like she keeps showing your tolf, I mean, Umbradge,
Like I would just be an utter discuss the whole
time me and her, Like, I'm like, what do you want?
She's probably trying to kill me. Bellatrix though, she's just
interesting as a person, right, Like, I have a lot
of questions for her. I have questions about her and
Baltimort and her love for you know, like, yeah, there's

(50:44):
a lot of thing. I feel like she's she's got
layers too. I feel like people don't know that. I
feel like if you pull back some layers, Bellatrix might
she might stab you afterwards, but you don't think you
get some good out of it. Yeah, yeah, oh trick.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
So yeah, okay, would you rather have a time turner
or an visit or an invisibility cloak?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Invisibility cloak? Yeah, I think the time turner, Like, but
I'm not getting serious on you, but I think the
time turner like I think through life, you realize like, hey, look,
time is the one thing you can't control, and you know,
if you turn time back, like sometimes you just have
to accept that things go the way they go. Yeah,

(51:29):
And like the time turner, I mean like, I know
people would probably use it to save themselves from you know,
grief and you know, heartache and stuff like that. And
some people would I definitely know, would probably use it
for good. But I just feel like it's cliche again,
but I feel like time is just the one thing
that really, to me should not be meddled with. Yeah,
you know, now, I don't even know how I would

(51:51):
use your visibility cloak. But I think that that time
turner would be a dangerous tool for anybody to have.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Do you know what that's exactly I just interview clothe.
That's that she said. She was like, I couldn't be
trusted with the time turner. I'll be constantly. I would
do it over stupid things. I would have said something
stupid and be like, oh, I'm just going to slip
back twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Yeah, the invisibility cloak, I'd probably just hide from my kids.
I just need to have a lie down. I'll just
lie down with the invisibly so I can keep an
eye on what they're doing. But yeah, okay, would you
rather have a love potion from Fred and George that

(52:30):
makes you full head over heels with your favorite character
your least favorite character, or makes your least favorite character
full head over heels with you, So either you'll be
totally in love with whichever character you hate, or they
would be like totally obsessed with you and not leave
you alone.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh oh my gosh, well that's on Bridge again. I think, yeah,
I'd rather my least favorite be in love with me.
I guess I could try to run, but like, I
don't know, I want to be head over heels from somebody.
I just I just totally couldn't do it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Would you rather have a boggot turn into your most
embarrassing memory or receive a howler in the Great Hall
from a pistol family or an annoyed family member.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I'll take the howler. I got a black mom flick.
I've already agree. I'll take the howler all day embarrassing,
but yeah, no, I'd rather not have the bogger put
me out there.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Okay, okay, last one? Would you rather spend the night
alone in the Forbidden Forest or the Chamber of Secrets?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Oh my gosh, is the basilisk alive? Well?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Maybe, yeah, I think so, because otherwise there's not much
going on down there that we know of.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Really, Oh my gosh, oh man, this is gonna sound crazy.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I'm going to the chamber. Going to the chamber, I'm
going to be as still as possible. I'm gonna try
to just lay in a corner and go to sleep
and hope that the baselist doesn't hear me. I'm not
a I'm not a forest or outdoor person. I don't
like mosquitos. I don't like snakes. I don't like it
would be something that had nothing to do with the
wizarding world. That would probably eliminate me. And I know

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I'm good. No, the first.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Person that said chamber because other people forest because they
want to see a unicorn, So it's worth the risk
to see the unicorn, see.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
The unicorn, and then have Voldemort standing in the trees.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
And exactly okay, And then last little round of my
fun questions, which working title we're calling so it's a
take on like I don't know if you have this
in America. I'm sure you do, like snog Marry avoid
do you have that?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, but we're calling it what are we calling it?
Love potion, which is marry, magic missiletoe which is kiss
and a vardica dava, which is obviously a void. Okay, okay, right,
So first one, bellatrix Umbridge aren't Petunia?

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Oh Umbradge is piece so yeah, she's gone, and her
kittens m Petunia and Bella Trix oh oh magic magic
missile tone with Petunia. Yeah, and then has to listen, listen,

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there's some appeal to Bella tricks. She's just yeah, insane,
you know.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Just you never know what was it every day would
be interesting in every day. Yeah, okay, next one, Ginny,
Luna and Hermione.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Oh my gosh, I got a Okay, so a cada.
This is not easy. But out of the three you've
given me, Luna has been Sorry Luna, Oh my god,
she's gone. She's so innocent. But yeah, first of all,
she's not a Gryffindors. That was striking.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
Yeah, Jinny and Hermione, this is so hard, Jenny, I'm
gonna doing mad Genny Jenny Magic Mistletoe, Hermione love potion.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Really yeah, interesting, but so you won't want to be Weasley.
I feel like Ginny has like a big appeal to
marry because then you get to be one of the weezies,
be in the Weasley family.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
No, I just I just again, like I just see myself,
like me and Ron just relate so much. I just
think that. Yeah. Yeah, but Genny, that's another one. Justice
Virginny because movie Jenny, movie Jenny book, Jinny got did dirty,
but she did she did so if TV series, if

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you watch this, please correct that.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I know, I know. It's just like a It's a
running theme, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Of Like.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
How loved Ginny is from the books and how they
just didn't quite get that across in there. And I
feel sorry for Bonnie Wright. And we always like preface
by saying nothing to do with Bonnie Wright. She could
only do what she had to work with, lines wise
and storyline wise. But yeah, like book, Jinny is just
such a like, Oh, she's just so cool.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
I mean, she's a warrior, and then Bonnie was a
great she's great again. No, no, no shade towards Bonnie whatsoever.
But they took her from being a warrior in the
books to like, your shoes aren't tie?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Yeah, so true. No, No, it's you know, I'm learning
a lot about justice for Jinny. Okay, and last one,
Harry Malfoy and Cedric Diggery.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Oh I don't like that. Yeah, I've never been a
Cedric fan. I really haven't. I think Cedric is going
to come to the same sticky fate he got in
the series. So I think I'm a cad And yeah,
kill the Spear, Yeah Cedric is oh Draco, magic missiletoe

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love potion, Harry.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, I love that. That's all my fun questions.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Those were good? Did you write those? Yes? Okay, those
were very good in their original I've had questions that
I've heard. So many of those questions I have never
heard before. Those were good.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Oh my gosh, I'm so happy. I was like, writer, yeah,
I should be. I am like, my husband likes Harry Potter,
but he's not really like a huge riplet, like he
likes the films. We'll like watch them whatever. So I
was like reading them to him and he was like, yeah,
like fine. I was like, okay, I'll put them to

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I'll put them to who I'm interviewing and see. So
that is such a compliment that you think they're good.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah, you need to be. You need to be like
a trivia host.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
That I feel like I have to get Tray back
on the chat once the Harry Potter series has been cast,
because I love his want for complete unknowns. So once
we know who's playing who, I think we can really

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dissect all the characters and we can sort of guess
what direction we think they're going to take these characters in.
Now on to next week, and I have my us
sisters on the show, the hosts of the Incredible Swish
and Flick podcast, also known as Tiff, Meghan and Katie.
I adore these girls. They are some of the first
people to reach out to me and taught me when

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I first came back into the fandom and was launching
the podcast. And I met them in real life for
the first time two summers ago, and it honestly felt
like reuniting with old friends. They are so warm and
just so lovely. So I'm really looking forward to you
hearing that conversation. If you're listening in real time, then
today is the last day of twenty twenty four. It

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is New Year's Eve, so with that, I want to
wish you a magical twenty twenty five and I will
see you in the new year. Lots of love,