Behind The Wand and Friends - Brett Ball

This week, I’ve got the one and only Brett Ball—aka Brett’s Thoughts—joining me! Brett’s a true legend in the Harry Potter fandom, creating everything from real-life Triwizard Tournaments to hilarious roasts with cast members an epic voldemort cosplay... If you haven’t seen his content yet, stop what you’re doing (after this episode, of course!) and check it out.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Hello, and welcome to episode six of Behind the Want
and Friends, the podcast where I get taught all things
Wizarding World by some of the coolest people in the fandom.
This week, I'm joined by the one and only Rep
Bull aka Brett's Thoughts. Brett is a wizard himself when
it comes to creating epic Harry Potter content. Think real

(00:37):
life try wizard tournaments, cast members roasting him, and some
pretty cool fan quizzes. If you haven't checked out his YouTube,
do it, but just maybe listen to this episode first.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
So this is me chatting with Brett.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Go cool, right, So this is all wh is my
first question? And I've thought so many times like should
I change my first question? But I think it's just
an obvious one. Can you remember the first time you
stumbled across the Harry Potter universe, whether that's the film,
the books, it was like, I don't know you're you're
from the UK, you saw it on that news round,
or like, can you remember your first interaction with it?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
I I can vividly because there's a little bit of
a childhood trauma attached to it. Oh no, not nothing
like drastically terrible. But we were reading The Iron Giant
in school, and like the main character from that is
called like Hogarth, and so then we swapped to Harry
Potter was the next book we were reading in class,
and so you know in primary school when you all

(01:39):
have to like read out loud, I pronounced Hogwarts as
Hogwarts because I was in that from Hogarth from the
Iron Giant, and the entire class just like laughed at me.
And it's vividly in my head here. So that that
terrible moment was my first experience with Harry Potter. Thankfully
it has gotten better since.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, Oh that is bad, isn't It is.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
A simple mistake, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You know, and out of all sorry, I'm not trying
to add salt to a wound here, but I have
all the words in Harry Potter is like all the
spells and eposions where I'm like, there's a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, understand. Yeah, it's pretty obvious how I should to
say it, but I was like, what like six or
seven probably yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was the first
time I really stumbled across it. And obviously from that,
I was like, well, I'm going to make this in
my entire personality for the rest of my life same same.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So yeah, is that literally how that worked that you
then just got hooked on the first But was it
Philosopher's Stone and then just started reading the series.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
No, so I actually sort of went off it for
all and not went off it. I just like didn't
like dive in. And then I remember my brother reading
The Prisoner of Azkaban when it came out and being
really into it, and I was like, oh maybe, I
think not long after that the film started coming out
as well, after the like just before the Goblet of
Fire book came out, so that's when I like jumped

(02:58):
into it. I was like, okay, well we watched the
first film, I'll start reading the books. And by the
time the Deathly Hallow's book came out, like I remember
getting it, going camping with my mum and her partner
and just staying up all night reading and that was
really when I like got properly into it, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And then would you say, so then you started so
you were reading the book obviously the same with everyone,
Like the books weren't all out by the time the
first film came out, so then you started watching the
film sort of as they went on.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, it sort of blurs whether I got into like
the books or the first film came out like what
came first, But it was all around the same time
because I guess there was so much like hype around it,
and I guess for parents probably it's quite easy to
be like everyone is having their kids read and watch
Harry Potter, so this is sort of what I'll suggest
or the book that I'll buy or the film will
go and see whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
You know. I don't know, like, did you ever do
the queuing up at Tesco's at midnight to get the book? No?

Speaker 3 (03:53):
It didn't. I think I was a little bit too
young ever so slightly.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Oh gosh, okay, off record, how old are you? Uh?

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Thirty two?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Okay, right? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Am I the right age? I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I don't know know, I mean, I am a couple
of years older than you. I'm thirty four.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Oh it doesn't show look wonderful for your age.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
I did get asked ID for alcohol and wa tros the.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Other day, and I was like, oh, that is now
a dream of mine. And at that point where I'm like,
you know, when you used to be like what the
fuck do you mean? You please? Ask me.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
I know I was with my kids as well.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I was like, excuse, let me just get out. But anyway, No,
we used to go like my mum. I think like
my mum's more into it than maybe I was. That
har and her friends would be like, let's take the
kids to Tesco's at midnight and get the book out.
And then it would really annoy me because some of
my friends would just read the last page and I'm like, oh,
I can't stand it when people do that.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Oh I can. I can sort of trump that. I
when the when The Order of the Phoenix came out
the day it dropped in class, obviously, everyone was talking
about it, and I remember lying about having read it
or and because JK. Rowling she said very publicly that
like a tear rolled down her eye when she killed

(05:06):
off a character, obviously with it being serious. Yeah, And
I just told the whole class I've read it all already.
I knew who died, and I told everyone it was Hagrid.
Oh my, I don't know why. I think. I think
maybe deep within me, I'm like a psychopath. And it
came out really early, do you know what I mean?
But for some reason I didn't read the last page,

(05:28):
so I don't know whether it's better or worse. But
I told everyone I had and then lied about who died.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
So then when Sirius went, they're like, oh, surely he's
not actually dead because we know it's Hagrid who dies,
and then actually it is serious exactly.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I have a similar story to this that.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
So we were filming whilst the book came out, and
obviously it was like everyone went into like madness because
someone knew their contract was up.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know, she's killing someone off. Who is it? Who's
not coming back next year? Everyone's a bit worried.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
So everyone's like speed reading the book and I'm.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Not reading it, reading and reading it. I'm sitting in
hair and makeup.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Gary Oldman comes in, sits down next to me, and
it's like, so it's me that that dies, And I
remember just feeling like instant rage of being like you've
completely ruined that for me because I'm not actually at
that part, and being like really annoyed about it, and
then telling my like going and telling my mum, like
telling on Gary Oldman, being like, Mum, Garry's just told

(06:26):
me that Serious dies and I'm not at that part
in the book yet, and my mom my mom was like, look,
don't worry, that's just a great life anecdote that if
you were to find out serious dies at least Gary
Oldman told you himself that he's the one that goes.
So it's like okay, but I remember just being like
really annoyed, like how insensitive to ruin the book for me?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Poor man has just lost his job.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
I know when he's thinking like I'm you know, I'm
done here. I'm not coming back to this place.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Do you have what film you were filming at that point?
Was it his first one? Was it? Was it?

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, my god. Imagine just jumping in thinking you're in
it for the long haul.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I know, I know, just getting settled into luston studios
and it's like, name off that dressing room they had,
Like it's funny. They had like upstairs was like big
dressing rooms, and they had like downstairs like the smaller
dressing rooms, and then like outside they had like you know,
like winnebagos. So those are like the trailer like dressing rooms. Okay,
you know what I mean, like a I don't.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Know, yeah, I think I've seen it in films yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Like a trailer.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Basically, it was constantly like moving names around because you
can't have like Gary Oldman.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
In the small dressing room.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Can of course not.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And like obviously there's kids that have been on the
film for ages that were like in the in the
top dressing rooms. You can't just like bump them out.
So it was like this constant like moving oh my god,
everyone in the appropriate size dressing room for them. Anyway,
we digress, this is not what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
That's sorry. If I can just like hone in on
that ever so slightly, I just can't imagine the kids
like you will be in that age, or the social
pressures and being like self conscious and insecure because you're
a teenager anyway, and then the added pressure of maybe
you're gonna get your dressing room bumped, Like that's such
an ex like he lost his big dressing rooms, you

(08:11):
know what I mean, Like I die.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I know, I know, And it was like it was
big and then sometimes they'd be.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Like, oh, can you share dressing rooms?

Speaker 1 (08:19):
And like, to be honest, it would be like I mean,
when you're twelve year like, everything's like fine, but you
can imagine what other people it's kind of a bit like,
you know.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't want to share my group.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
But when everyone was in it was such a like
huge day of like obviously everyone plus the doubles.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
It was like crazy but a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
There's always like the most fun days when everyone's there
and everyone would just be in hair and makeup and
it would be like gossip and oh, it's.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Just so good.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I feel like I could listen to you talk about
it for we don't have to talk about me at all.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I know. This is just how I get turn it
around to talking about me.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
No, I'm obsessed. Honestly, I'm going to keep doing that,
by the way, I'm keep it around. And so we
can talk about the film.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Process so well I can't. I'm like, wholla, we even
talking about it.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
So how do you get from being a fan watching
the films, watching the books and to sort of creating
the content that you create?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
In a very meandering roundabout way. As a teenager, like
I was obsessed with like content creation, like I loved it.
I like when I was like fourteen fifteen, in the
very very early like YouTube days, I like started making
like YouTube videos not about Harry Potter, just about like
I don't know what's important to you when you like fifteen, Like, oh,

(09:41):
I like this girl and she doesn't like me back.
How do I balance go into the cinema and doing homework?
Everything is the end of the world. And it was
like super early days of content and I made this
like great group of friends from doing from like all
over the world. Like I just went to a wedding
in New Mexico because of because it it was a
girl that I met on YouTube when I was like fifteen,

(10:01):
got married and we've like stayed in touch for all
these years. And I went to like a wedding in
La and like my friend in Japan came and stayed
with us a couple of years ago. So like all
these people that we got in touch with just from
making terrible YouTube video. And when I say terrible, I
mean like one of the videos I made I made
was like here's one hundred and fifty one things in
my room and I just spent twenty minutes just holding

(10:22):
up a hey.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And just twenty years did it get.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Like twelve probably maybe, Like like at the time, I
was like I got to like fifteen thousand subscribers, Like
in that phase of my content creation in like two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine or whenever it was. Yeah,
I was like dead chuffed with it, right, I mean
it's it's I feel like nowadays so many people are
mass audiences that those numbers feel really small. But at
that point, like I felt like I went into high

(10:47):
school thinking I was a big deal, you know. I
was like, one of these days, I'm gonna get recognized
on the street. And then it obviously never happened. But
I made friends with all these people, and I like,
I just I fell in love with the medium and
with the community and like the like the back and
forth feedback and stuff like that. And then I got
a girlfriend and was terrified that her family's first impression
of me would be these dreadful, dreadful videos that I

(11:10):
was making. So I stopped for ages, but that skill
set sort of went into like marketing, so I worked
for like marketing agencies when I left university. And then
on the side, I don't know, I think this is
technically against their terms of service, but I would like
flip Instagram accounts, so I would like get an Instagram
memes account that wasn't doing very well i'd like buy it.

(11:32):
I'd post loads of memes and stuff, get it doing well,
and then like sell it on for more money.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, So that's what I did, like on the side
while I was working, and I started from heard of this, Yeah,
it's like it's a really it's a really like big
or at least it was it like the late sort
of mid to late twenty tens, and then I started
from scratch. I started at Harry Potter memes account because
I always sort of like Harry Potter was always like
my Hangover film, like it was something that I knew well,

(12:01):
and I found the memes funny, so I was like,
I started it from scratch, and in like a couple
of months it went to like sixty or seventy thousand
followers like really quickly, which I was chuffed with. And
then it got taken down because obviously all the memes
are just like screenshots from the films with like captions
and stuff, so obviously I wasn't allowed to use that,
so we got taken down, which was really annoying. So
I was like, you know what TikTok's knew, I need

(12:24):
to learn it for the marketing agency I work for anything,
I would have made a meme I'm just gonna talk
about I'm just gonna say to the camera, and they
can't take down my face, right, I have the rights
to my face. So that's sort of how it started,
and it sort of there was a couple of videos
that did really well in the first couple of months
and just sort of rode that train from then and all. Yeah,

(12:44):
that's the long, meandering life story of me and how
I got to this point.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I love that. I love this. What was the what
was the memes account? Caught?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
So it was called Harry Potter Dot Best Memes And yeah,
it got taken down at like seventy eight followers, I think,
which was heartbreaking. I remember for like months submitting an
appeal to Instagram literally every day, but yeah, still still
haven't been able to get it back.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Do you know what, Maybe that's like it was a
blessing in disguise because now you've got like an incredible
account and following, and like you said, it can't be
taken away for So what of your videos do you
the Harry Potter videos do you think perform the best.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
What do you think your audience love the most from you?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I feel like I grow tired of for because I
sort of have a format first way of looking at things.
Wherever I can find a format that works, I can
just be like, Okay, how many times can I like
apply a new idea to it? So like I've done
like Voldemort hosting a like a red Pill podcast as
though it is Andrew Tait and I'm just like, Okay,
what new things can I throw on it? And I've

(13:46):
done like quizzes, and I've like paid the Harry podcast
on cameo to roast me.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I saw one of these. It was so good.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So that's my most successful video or my second most
successful video, but probably my most successful series was like
the cast Me. My most successful video was pretending there
was a Harry Potter like error, like they made a
mistake in the films, and it was just me saying
that they forgot to give Jinny a personality, which I
I just want to put a disclaimer out there. I

(14:14):
don't blame Bonnie right for that.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I think.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
She's a great actress, although granted I've not really seen
her do much else, but I just think the writing
is wouldn't right. They haven't given her many opportunities to
show chemistry or the spunk of Jenny's character from the books.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know, I say that all the time.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I'm like, she could only do what she could what
she was given, and they just really in the film
developed Jinny as the character we'd love from the book,
you know, which I guess like leads nicely into when
you heard about the series, and obviously Jinny's one of
the people. I think people are like, we're going to
get to see book Ginny hopefully in the series. Were

(14:52):
you like, yes, a Harry Potter series, or you're like, ugh,
this is not what I wanted from the Wizarding World.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, kind of the latter. I don't really I still
don't really want the series. And look, I'm not gonna
like I'll still watch it. I'm sure I'll still enjoy
it and stuff, But I feel like the film's hold
up fine like this. It's not like the CGI is
so bad that it's unwatchable so it needs to be rebooted.

(15:19):
It's not like the story is particularly bad. Sure they
could tell it in slightly more depth. But the big
thing about the series that gets me is I'm just
like they're saying the big the big reason for it
so they can tell a true version of the story
to the books, right. But I'm just like the first
three are largely accurate to the books, right. The books
are smaller and the films are like the same length

(15:41):
as the rest of the film. So it's like they
haven't had to cut too much apart from like Nick's
death day party or like a little bit of Peeves.
I'm like, largely the story is mostly true. So I'm like,
you're gonna make us wait until season four to actually
get anything that we care about having been cut. Yeah,
that's gonna be what like five six years into the project. Like,
I don't want to wait five years to get something
a bit different from the film.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I hadn't really thought about that, but I just feel like,
I don't know, see, I kind of think think when
they first said about a series, I guess I was
just like a little bit surprised, mainly because of the
same things that you said, Like my like, by the way,
I'm not like sitting him down.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Like watch this with Harry Potter, my son sit down
and the back of your head do that every Sunday.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
No, my nephew is five and he's gone to school
and it's Harry Potter is still very much a thing.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Like World Book Day, they come dressed up as Harry Potter.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
My son worships my nephew, and so obviously he started
saying about Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
So we did let him.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Watch the first film because for Halloween he wanted to
go as Harry Potter. And I was like, you don't
even know who this is, and like, by the way,
it was so cute, and then Iris went.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
As Headwig was stopping.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
I know they were Harry and it was.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Anyway, And when we were watched it, like he watched
it and enjoyed it. He wasn't like what is this
because I remember like my dad putting on like black
and white films back in the day, and I was like,
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Really, I'm not relating to this. I know it sounds bad,
just it's black and white.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Now, actually I can watch a black and white film
and really like it was always that African queen he
wanted me to watch, but like I can watch that
film be like.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's a great story, it's a great film.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But like when you're younger, you're not appreciating cinema in
the same way anyway, So I was surprised because I
think Harry Potter films do have stood the test of
time and children are still watching them and enjoying them.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
So I was shocked at first. That was my initial reaction.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But now I just feel like I'm excited because I
just like newness. I feel like I'm gonna enjoy watching it. Yeah,
I feel like it's like the names attached to it
from HBO, a sort of series that I like and
I watch. I feel like it's the guy did Succession right?
And I love Succession, Not that that's what I know session.

(17:56):
And if you think about like the adaptation of the
Last of Us, I loved that. Never played the game,
so I don't really know, but I think people who'd
had played the game were quite happy with the adaptation
of the So I kind of feel excited about it.
But like everyone who listens to this podcast is going
to be so sick of me saying this. I think
so much of it hinges on casting. That's my feeling

(18:19):
about it.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, I largely feel about
like the casting. The thing I am really really worried
about is they are going to be casting like ten
eleven year old like maybe twelve thirteen. But at what
age do you think people are going to start feeling
comfortable asking them to take a stand on a bunch
of the controversies around like the author and like those issues.

(18:42):
And then like in the age of social media, even
if they're not asked by the media, are people going
to start like telling them they should be taking a
stand themselves even if they haven't said anything yet. And
I'm just like, I don't think there is enough safeguarding
in the world to protect these kids from regardless of
them being compared to like Dan ree In, Hermione, Dan
Rupert and Hermione Dan Rupert and emmat regardless of them

(19:06):
being compared. I'm just like, yeah, people are going to
be expecting them to take a stand on all the
controversies around it, like the trans issues and the representation
of goblins and things like that. And I'm just like,
those kids cannot win, do you know what I mean? Like,
they just can't. And that's that's the thing I'm most
worried about with the casting. Honestly, Yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I do agree.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
And you're not the first person to actually say that
in a way as almost like an as an adult,
you can feel, especially adults that sort of play a
part in so On has a life online, they are
scared for these the children that are going to be cast.
And I think, like I kind of said this again,

(19:47):
I said this before, so I won't go into it
like too much better.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But I kind of thought like maybe they'd do.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
A Crown esque sort of casting so they could naturally
be a little bit older than what they would be
playing in the film, because the problem is why you
can't cast older if you're on a ten year project
is because you could potentially have a thirteen year old
playing a ten year old.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I think you could probably get away with.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
That, but then it's just time just gets too far ahead,
you get too old. So I thought they might do
a crown esque sort of vibe and just recast like
every two years maybe, so then you could potentially have
some older people taking on younger parts who could be
a little bit more equipped to take on such a
juggnal of a project.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
But I don't know. They're obviously not doing that, But
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
But what I can say, and this is the only thing,
like I guess, is it was completely different the time
that I was filming in terms of like, yes, there
was people were online and there was stuff, but like
I always say, there was no like direct line to
anybody in terms of having any sort of like Instagram
or TikTok, acount or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
That was so not around.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
But I do feel like Warner Brothers and David Hayman
specifically really just wanted to like protect us at all
costs and make sure that's nice time. And I will
say that over and over again. Like David Hayman specifically,
I feel like always wanted us to be there and

(21:20):
having a good time.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
He wanted us to love working on the films.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh that's so nice.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
We did? You know? He would come?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I always say my family every time we're on location.
Anytime I wanted my family to come, they'd fly them
up to Scotland, put them in the hotel with me.
There was you know, the family could be around all
the time. My sister and brother both worked on it
as extras. Like my brother was at King's Cross, like
my sister was in like huffle Puth. They he would
just say to us like, what do you like to
do for fun? And we were like we like bowling.
McDonald's and he'll be like okay, and he'd just like

(21:50):
sought out for us all to go. But so they
really like try to let you be kids and in
the process and as he's attached, I do have like
I think that gives me hope that he will let
them the same way that I found. You were protected,
even though I know times are different. There wasn't the
controversy surrounding Harry Potter.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Really, do you know what? We had? Religious quite religious
people didn't like.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Us filming in the cathedrals because it was really there'll
be protests about that.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
That was something I remember, oh.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Because I heard about that in the US, like some
parents wouldn't, like really really religious parents wouldn't let their
kids read it because it was like, I guess, almost blasphemous,
like magic and stepping in the toes of miracles and stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
But just.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Stitching your sister up by putting her on ulfle puff
so funny I do it?

Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah, I was like, she looks like a hulf apuff,
doesn't she know?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
So they I don't know why she got sorted into that,
but she did, but she didn't.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
I know, that's so funny. Did did you get like
I don't know how like full on was the like
the pressure from religious groups. Did you ever like see
them on shoot days and stuff. Were they ever like
actually protesting or was it largely largely just noise like that?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Apparently they were there, but I never I don't remember
ever seeing anything, you know, except.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
We were really well protected.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
We really I feel like we really did just live
in this bubble what I did for like almost four years. Yeah,
no concept of the outside world, and almost like the
beauty you have when you're ten years old, is you
don't you don't it's not that deep. You don't think
about anything that deeply.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
That movie says like a lot about me.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
But not at all. I think that's just the case,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, you just like accept things for what they are,
you don't.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I never felt like considering I was, like I said,
I was contracted there to do a job, like I
had to be there, Like there wasn't I think if
I'd said, like I really want to leave, they'd be like,
that's fine, we'll get somebody else to do this. But
considering it was like a full time job, like I
would be there Monday to Friday all day.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Well, they kind of. Yeah, I never felt pressure.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I never felt It's so nice. Oh, I love to
hear that. That's because I guess people often use the
Harry Potter films as like the yardstick for like child
like actors and child like stars and people in the
limelight not not really growing up and having any sort
of like a personal mess as a result of all

(24:24):
of that pressure and all of that like attention from
such a young age. And I suppose it speaks to
that sort of thing, right, like the fact that you're
so protected.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, and I think there's always like gonna be stuff
like when you have children, like growing up put on
a film set and stuff like I think like Dan's
like documented having sort of like alcohol issues and stuff
like that. But like on the whole, I'd say, like
everyone wanted to be there and was having a good
a good time.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's so nice to hear it. Yeah, I'm even more jealous.
I wasn't on it.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Now it was good.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
I'm not gonna lie, I know, but now, like, Okay,
so somebody asked me, okay, if you I'll ask you
in the series, if you could play any character, who
would you be?

Speaker 3 (25:03):
I have been told I do a mean Peter Petter group.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Oh I got to do it.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
I'm sorry, my lord. I feel like I feel like
if I'm cast at this age, I could I could
do Peter, Like.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Don't worry, I'll clip that up. I'll send it to
David Hayman. That is your audition type.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Honestly, Oh my god, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's not it.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
I have no acting chops whatsoever, but I can at
least pull a face, So I'm sure that's fine.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
That's all you need. Okay, Yeah, that's interesting. I feel
like that would be actually a really good character to be.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, because I feel like he's not in a ton
of scenes, right, so in terms of workload, it's not loads,
but he's an important character. So many of the plot
points come back to him, Like Voldemort's entire resurrection is
because of Petage, you know what I mean, Like serious
as his whole arc because of Peter, Harry being an
orphan because of Peter, like such an integral may be

(26:00):
the main character. Some could say, so pig, Yeah, exactly,
so I'd take it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Oh that's great.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Yeah, who would you pick?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
So I've had a bit somebody asked me this, and
I said, Madam Pomfrey, and it was thank you, it
was there.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Was a frosty response.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
I would say they were not happy with the answer.
But I feel like I'd love to just like pot
around the hospital wing, you know, look after everyone and
but kind of like, you.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Know, can you give me like a quite a strict
like out out this is a hospital, not a dormitory.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Out now, I can't, I can't. You got it out
out This is a hospital, not a dormitory.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
No callback necessary, I've now did it.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh my gosh, we're doing the job for them, Am.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
I'm so glad you have the connections because this is gold.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
This is gold, this is gold. This is what I mean.
I'm sure they're not cast. So I think we're actually
in with the shot.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Isn't there a theory that Madame Pumphrey is bumping uglies
with filch Oh wait no, I think it's Pince the Librarian.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Oh I don't really want so.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I don't think it's like on screen. I think you're fine.
I don't think you'd have to shoot it.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's not going to make it okay. So apart from us,
Peter betscream me as Madame Pomphrey.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Do you have any sort of actors that you would
like to be attached to the project.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
You can say no, no, I have I have loose thoughts.
I'm this is this is such a negative Nancy answer.
I more of a know what I don't want them,
know what? I do want kind of guy. Okay, And
I know I don't want any of the original cast
coming back. I just like, I understand the fan service
and that it'll get clicks online and stuff, but it

(27:52):
just it feels like a gimmick. Like focus on telling
a good story and getting good performances. Don't just have
like a don't have Tom Felton back is Lucius in.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
My this is the one that everyone keeps coming back to,
and I think there.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Are people who are dying for that to happen. I
am if it happens, It happens, it's great. I actually
love Tom.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
I think he's great. I think he's great for the fandom.
So he wanted to do it, I'd be like, do it.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Tom, great?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
But I feel like again I'm revealed repeating myself. Seriously,
these sorry listeners. You know, I'm like a dog with
a bone when I get onto something. But did you
ever watch The Last of Us? Yeah, okay, my easter
egg theory. I want little easter eggs. I don't want

(28:41):
it to.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Be literal like Malfoy playing the older Malfoy. I would
kind of love it if like.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Voice, like the voices were people or this, like I
don't know the portrait was, you know, like see people
in portraits of like the old cast and like throwback
to that. Just little easter eggs that I think are
fun and that actually you almost don't find out so
afterwards and then you go back on watching and you're like,
of course, like that's that person's doing that voice, you know, Like.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
I'm trying to think.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
So I have so many examples of this because I've
thought the same thing. If I can entirely jump on
your point and act like it's mine, please do so.
I not to not to well, I was about to say,
like not to brag or name drop, and I was
gonna be like, I filmed a video with the Phelps
Twins recently, but you were on a film set with
them all for years, so that's not bragging with you.
But I did, like they were actually really nice. It

(29:36):
was it was my first time meeting anybody from the film,
and now I've had like three of you from the
films in like, honestly, so I've heard so it was
like a lab Bible thing. It was like a would
you rather? It was really good and they asked like,
if if the twins had to play someone from the movie,
who would they want to play? And I had a

(29:57):
thought after the fact that they could, Like in the
Order of the Phoenix, Moody shows Harry like a picture
of the original Order of the Phoenix and it's got
Molly's older brothers, Fabian and Gideon in it, and I
was like, that should be the Phelps twins, like Fleeting
tinylt Cameo, or like Gary Oldman could be you know
how like Sirious's great great great grandfather was a head

(30:18):
master at Hogwarts. That could be Gary Oldman, do you
know what I mean? Like in the portrait there, this.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Is exactly what I mean.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I would love that and I think that would be
like such a clever move for them.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
To do that. So again, Warner Brothers, HBO, you are welcome.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
We are honestly, we need a consultancy fee at least
at this point, at.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Least at least, but yeah, I kind of don't like
too literal.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
I don't want to literal.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Like them playing that, Like I would hate Dan to
come back and be like play James Potter like older,
you know, not like obviously as a marauder like that
kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, in a in a serious, like significant role as well.
I'm like, if Lucius was only in the background of
a couple of scenes like Tom eat your heart out,
but I'm like, he is so integral to so much
and I'm just like, I don't want that to be
overshadowed by the Oh it's old Draco, do you know
what I mean? Yeah, I do have a casting that
I do want. Oh yeah, go on, James A Caster

(31:21):
is Peeves?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
I love James A Caster with all of my heart.
And I just feel like Peeves as this sort of
like flamboyant, mischievous and yet sort of like sometimes like
or not angry, but like a bit more intense than
just joky. Feel like James A Caster would nail it.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Oh, I've never heard this before, and I think that
it would be so good.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, I really think. Thanks, that's a really really good one.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
What was I gonna say, oh, yeah, because like it
was so funny when I was speaking to em. Obviously
she's not read the books, and I am just so
like the people who haven't read the books when they
watch these series, they're going to be like.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Huh, yeah, what the hell's going on?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Especially like we said in the later ones, they're gonna
be like what Because she said old people are always.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Saying about Peves. I don't even know who Peeves is.
I was like, oh my god, I not know that,
but that's so funny, so so good.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, Oh, I don't know. We'll see the series. I'm
sure we're bound to start hearing stuff. That's what I think.
We are bound to start hearing stuff because they're starting
to shoot in is it like June In?

Speaker 3 (32:34):
At least I think so something like that. Yeah, And
I'm like, from that point, well, surely from now we're
going to get casting information and directors and writers and things. Oh,
we've got like showrunners and stuff that. Yeah, and then
we're going to get like on set leaks I'm sure,
and like seeing costumes and things like that, and then
it's then it's just going to be like the promo
material exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
The thing is though, if they are bringing people back,
for example, and I don't know how they do this.
If Tom is coming back a Lucius, I.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Don't want to know that until i'm watching. That's the
other thing.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Like, I hate the fact that in the Sex and
the City sequel and is it what's it called?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Just like that?

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Yeah, okay, another podcast called and anyway, whatever, I'm about.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
To go too deep diving, but I'm not going to
do that.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I hate that they we all knew Samantha was going
to be in the last scene.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
I have never seen Sex and the Sex in the
City or Sex and the.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
City, Sex and the City Sex.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
And I've seen all Women.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
The original series and they've rebooted it and it's called them.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Just like that. I think it's called that. I'll learn
it if it's not.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And only three of them came back because notoriously, Sarah,
Jeska Parker and Kim.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Cattrell did not get on.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Kind of always a shame because you're like, I wish
that Samantha was in it, because then it would be
the original four.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
You know.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
It's like it's like when you see a band get
together and not the line up for you know, you're
kind of a bit like, oh, this would be better
if they're all there anyway, Then it just got leaks
that Samantha was actually going to be in like one
scene in the series. And it's so annoying because I
think if I was watching that and she just because
she's on the phone, Carrie calls somebody and then Samantha answers, if.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
You didn't know that, you would have I would have like.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Screamed lost your mind, like lost my mind.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
But it was like leaked all over the press.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
So I really hope they keep things secret because I
feel like it just adds to the watching experience if
they are going to bring cast back and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, one, I'm so with you. There's a there's a
moment in did you ever watch Lost?

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yes, but like the like the first episode of the
first Oh sorry one.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
Second, Holly, Oh it's my son, helloble, Hello.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
This is this my son? Not so quick? I didn't
you want to come and say hello hello? Your feature
in the podcast say hello.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh you are just the cutest group.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
This is I'm sorry, Abby, what are you doing now?

Speaker 3 (35:21):
This isn't what I signed up for?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
You joking?

Speaker 3 (35:31):
You have the cutest family I swear to I love.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
That they've all made an appearance. Honestly, are the first
time that's ever happened.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
But you know, well, I'm honored. Maybe my voice just
sounds like inviting you, like it called.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
The children up. This brat is no okay.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
So with Lost, I feel like I've watched, like when
it was on TV, I watched the first few episodes.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
But I know your lifelong mission is to get people
to watch.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, So first of all, my condition, I know I'm
already on the podcast, but my condition for being on
it is that you have to watch Lost. And I
just also not to like, not to oversell it, but
I have this year got a lot of people to
watch it, and not a single one of them as
have regretted it. So many of them have said it's
like the best show they've watched in recent times.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
So you will.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
I promise you will love it. I can't promise that,
but I can almost promise you.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I do actually have a friend who is like that
says the same thing. People kind of like watched it
and then sort of like, I don't know what it
was that serious?

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Is it serious? Two? I think of the end of series,
there was a drop in watches and then the end
of three ye and then but actually you need to
stick with it. So maybe I got me and my
husband always looking for things to watch, so.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Well, please, oh my goodness, if you it's on Netflix
or Disney Plus, take your pickto so yes, Oh what
a dream. So if you and your husband end up
not watching it in sync, one of you can have
one plus on the other on the other. But if
you will, that.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Is actually cool for divorce. If we start watching Going
Ahead series.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Oh my god, I literally with my girlfriend. I still
haven't told her this, so I'm going to say this quietly,
and I hope she doesn't listen to the podcast. We
watched How To Get Away with Murder together and then
she went away for the weekends and I carried on
watching it because I couldn't wait. And then when she
came back from her trip, I just pretended I hadn't
and went back to the episode we were on together
because I just I just couldn't. I just couldn't wait.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
For me brand new infamy.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Honestly, I was, I was Phoebe, I was like But
so my point about Lost was at the end of
season three, there is in the finale, there is the
biggest cliffhanger, the biggest twist, and I just feel like
in the age of social media, it would have leaked
so early, and I'm just like, that is the moment
that I'm like, I'm so thankful that it came out

(37:42):
when it did, because I'm like Spider Man, the latest
one that had like all the old Spider Mans. I'm
just like, I know it was never confirmed, but it
was so speculated that as soon as it sort of
started going down that route, you were like, oh, this
is what's happening, you know what I mean. And I'm
just like, the Internet ruins every I know. I owe
my entire career to it, but it ruins three thing.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
It's like, with God, we're going quite niche for sorry
for a big part of the audience as Americans.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So I'm really sorry about this.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
But like with Gavin and Stacey, I kept seeing in
the press pictures from that and I was like, I.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Don't want to know anything. I just want to watch
the Christmas special and not know and watch.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
The two Christmas specials like that they did. I watched
all three seasons and then I haven't watched either of
the specials.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
What.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
I'm an habitual watcher, okay, and so if all three
seasons have finished and then they have two specials, I'm
not in the habit of watching it at that point.
So I'm gonna have to go back through and watch
seasons one through three and then watch the specials.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yeah, do it. So it's good. You'll have a good time,
I think.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Okay, I'm sure I will because I love the series.
I just like I say, I I'm a habitual watcher,
Like I'm watching from at the moment, and then I
went like two weeks without watching it, and I just
can't bring myself to go back to it as much
as I'm enjoying it, you know, I.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Know, do you know what I'm really bad at not
watching the last episode of things because I don't want
things to end.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Oh, I mean, I'm I'm pretty sure that links to
abandonment issues. I've spoken to my therapist about that before, So.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I don't I just I don't want things to end
some time. I'm just not going to watch the last episode.
Then I can always feel like if I really need to,
I can come.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Back to it and there's still like fresh new stuff
that you have before. Yeah, but a lot about I'm
not going to psychoanalyze you, but but yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Going to say something about what were we just talking about.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Before, how excellent Lost is, and how as soon as
we finished the podcast, you're going to go start watching it.
That's preture. That's what it was.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
I think it might have been. It probably was something
about last. Anyway, it will come to me, okay, right,
if you're ready to move on.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
From last, yes, just about for now anyway, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Have some I don't know, do you know what I'm
not even going to go into. I've got some more questions. Shock,
what Hogwart's house are you in?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Is this a visual medium or is it going to
be audio only?

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Well? I clip stuff up for social media.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
So okay, I.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
We'll direct people to the Instagram. We'll be like, look
at the Instagram. You'll see what you are pointing at.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Exact cross promotion, what a marketing like, grade a move?
I'm a Slytherin.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
I'm gonna cut that out. I'm like, if you really
want to know what house bread sinco Slytherin.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, so oh, thank you so much. I have been
told by my audience countless times that I'm a Hulflepuff
like one, which is maybe as insulted as I've ever been.
But also I understand that I give Hulflepuff vibes. I
just I was sorted when I was like twelve or
thirteen or whenever. The pot of more quiz came out
and it said, Slytherin. I'm like, you don't get a

(40:30):
second chance of the sorting at right, That's just what
you are.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
And I'm finding that out because I want to retake
the test, but I can't do it on the website
because I wanted to speak Griffinda. So I just answered
all the questions of what I thought, and Griffinda would say, so,
I actually don't know my true house.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
What what what did you get the first time? If
you said, do you want to retake it?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Graffindo? But I answered the questions like I want to
be Cravindo.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
So oh want if in your heart? What what do
you think you are? I'm really sorry to hear that.
I think you know before when I mentioned a therapist,
I just I really feel like maybe you have some
stuff to work through here.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I do, I am, I think I am, Oh God, Okay, it's.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Really self depreckying isn't it saying that's in your heart,
that's what you think you are a huffle puff. That's
like being like I just think I'm the worst sibling
in my family.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
It's just I know that's not true. I'm the best.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay, right, next, tie, If you could brew a potion
or you can't do both, cast a spell, and you
can use that potion or that spell only one for
the rest of your life, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Okay, Well, so I think there's I think there is
an obvious correct answer to this. If you can use
that potion for the rest of your life, it's got
to be Felix Felici's right, It's gott be liquid luck.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Yeah, I'm not the first time I've heard that breath.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
But if we're if we're taking out the if I
get a geniem wishing for a million wishes kind of
loophole of like Felix Felicius all the time, I think
I would take the spell Achio.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, just so you can just.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Well, here's the thing, because I used to ask this
question on my podcast as well, and I found people
who said, Achio, I didn't ask about the potions, it
was just the spells. I found the people who said
Achio fell into two categories. One was laziness. I just
want to drink, so I'm going to aciate it. The
other words disorganized and forgetful. So if you can't find something,
you can like summon it. And I feel like I'm

(42:34):
more the latter. I certainly am lazy, don't get me wrong.
Just that's not the driving driving. Yeah, it's more that
I'm an idiot and I lose things all the time.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
I can I ask your answer?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yeah you can? But do you know what I've asked
these questions? I've never really thought about it.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Has no one asked you back narcissists on your podcast?
To god?

Speaker 1 (42:59):
No they do some times, but not this. No one's
asked me this one. What would I do? At the moment,
I feel like I would.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
I'm not actually say that I'm going to brew a.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Potion to make my kids sleep and make me sleep,
but I feel like just sounds like I want to
drug my kids, which I don't.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Obviously having a baby, I don't know, Brett.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I really don't know what I would do, probably because
I've probably just do similar to you, Like definitely would
want some liquid luck. Probably when I was younger, I
would have wanted like love potion, even though that's really bad.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
But just like so my crushes.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Shouldn't it be illegal though? Isn't it such a dodgy
thing to just school kids can have and give to
each other?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Wild, yeah, but I hate That's who you are, that's
what you wanted.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
That's who I am. Just drugging people, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Now okay, we'll move on. What is your favorite book?
Your favorite movie?

Speaker 3 (44:02):
My favorite book is The Half of the Prince, which
I think is quite a popular one, and I I
really like the Half of Prince film as well, which
I know is not a popular opinion. I think my
favorite has to be The Prisoner of Azkaban. I just
I'm such a basic white Harry Potter fan, do you
know what I mean? Like, I feel like these are
such the obvious. These are like the caramel machiato of

(44:22):
Harry Potter choices, I mean, And that's that's who I am.
I can't pretend to be more complex. I'd love to
say I'm one of these Chamber of Secrets lovers, but
I'm not. I'm not that component.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
Sorry, someone said that another injury that maybe sorry.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
What that actually makes me hate you as a person
if you say that, It's.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Like, get off the podcast right now. Same like I
think my favorite book.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Is Past Prisoner of Azkaband, But I think my favorite film,
if I really have to think about it, is Goblet
of Fire.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
It's a good film. But I think if you're if
you're taking the Goblet of Fire film on its own
merit instead of comparing it to the book, because I
can't quite get past how much they leave out and
how much of my favorite stuff they leave out, but
on its own merit as a standalone piece of media.
Incredible film, but like, give me ludo bagman, Like.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I know, sorry, that was so niche. When you message
me saying.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
What, I didn't really know you that, I was like, Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
You're so enthusiastic.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
I thought, can you come on my podcast because you
are no I think.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
I just always say this, I love world building, so
I love that you get these extra like elements of
the world of like the wizzling world outside of likehands
of Hoogwarts, and there's these different schools.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
I feel like it just embellishes like the universe in
my mind in a way.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I'm so with you, like and because I feel like
it's not just it is the schools absolutely, but it's
like at the Quiditch World Cup you have like all
these other adults in their families and like ministry officials,
and I'm like, this world is huge. Yeah, and that's
our first glimpse into it. I love that.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, that's totally why I kind of feel like, yeah,
I love.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
A goblet of Fire.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Okay, if you could spend one day in a location
from the Wizarding World, where would it be? And I
am saying you're not allowed to just say Hogwarts. You
can just say, like you have to say what you
would do at Hogwarts, like, okay, beast in the Great
Hall and then I'd go to the Griffin. Well, you
wouldn't slither in common room, Like do you know what
I mean? Give me a I don't want to just

(46:22):
hear Hogwarts. But it also might not be Hogwarts might
be like diagon ally.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
That is an excellent question. And I feel like if
we're I would just want to watch Quidditch, not even play.
I am like, I am so bad at sports, but
such a sport enthusiast. It would be just watching quidditch.
I think, I just, oh, is that really boring? I

(46:46):
feel like there are way better answers, but nothing else
jumped out to me, and that felt like, although quidditch
is a terrible sport, kind of isn't it. You've got
one guy floating around by himself way higher, trying to
catch a snitch and nothing else matters.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
But like a tiff who's been on the podcast, she
was like, yeah, I would go to like the Great
Hall sort of almost do like the tailgating in the
Great Hall of the quidditch match, getting hyped, then go
and watch the like the Cup getting high, Yeah, getting high,
going to the.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Queen smoking those mandas.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Exactly, and then going to watch a quidditch match. I
was like, yeah, I'd actually like really love that. Like
somebody elseaid, I'd love to just be like by the
Black Play and have like a picnic and then do
I kind of love all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
So yeah, I think that's totally fine what.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
You've said, Oh, thank you boring, But like I would
love to be like I'd love to go to Nocturn
Alley and look around borging in Berks, but I would
be terrified for my life, Like I say I'm a
Slytherin because that their stuff is cooler. But in my
heart of hearts, my hufflepuff would come out and I'd
be terrified.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
We know we're closeted.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Exactly, okay, right now, exactly, I'm definitely not. I would
not admit to that.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
No, no, we're Every time I say I'm just going
to cut the word half puff out of this podcast,
perfect because.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That won't sound suspicious, and we're like, we're closeted.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Okay, I've got some more like would you rather questions
if you're up for it? Sorry, do you have time,
because I know I've been an hour and I said
I'd only be an hour.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Oh yeah, absolutely, take your time. I also have a
question from my old podcast that I want to ask
you when we're through with this section.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Okay, And my question is, are you going to sue
me for ripping off your podcast?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yes, this in my podcast.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, not at all.
I'm sure we are not the first people to have
these ideas. Just so you know, some of us did
it better. That's all I'm going to do.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
You're just coming on here to like tank my podcast.

Speaker 3 (48:44):
Honestly, if you want a good podcast that stopped two
years ago.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Exactly right, Okay, you ready? First? Would you rather?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Would you rather have a pet hippogriff or a pet Festal?
Nothing bad has to have happened to see the pet Festal,
I always.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Say, or otherwise I'm taking a thesteral. Oh really, yeah,
they're way cooler.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, I guess they are.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Also, I'm pretty sure I don't think it's Cannon, but
I'm pretty confident in the theory that the elder one
in the invisibility cloak are sort of made from a festeral.
So that's one of my favorite theories. So I'm doubling down.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Yeah, oh for sure. Okay, who would you rather have
as a bestie? Harry Ron or Hermione Ron. I think
you're the first person.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
To say Ron's I think I've surprised myself.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Okay, that's nice. Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Would you rather be constantly haunted by Peeves who's playing
pranks on you all the time, or have moaning Myrtle
living in your bathroom?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Moaning Myrtle?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Really?

Speaker 3 (49:39):
Yeah, because Peeve's doing it all the time, versus only
dealing with Myrtle when I go to the loo I
feel like that you get some respite. Also, I dress
up as a great moaning myrtle. I've donned that cosplay
a few times, so I feel like I could put
that on and go in and give her some of
her a medicine, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, yeah, would be brilliant honestly.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
And also, like not to get too personal, I'm lactose intolerance,
so if he's really pissing me off, I can I
can get my revenge. That's all I'm saying, whereas.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Peeve's like, yeah, I get it, I get it. Okay.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Would you rather have a time turner or an invisibility
cloak time turner?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Do you not think the invisibility cloak would wear off
quite quickly, like the novelty of it.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
I feel like I would say time turner. But then
since asking this question to people, there's a strong vibe
that time is one thing you shouldn't mess with and
actually we should just accept things that happen and we
shouldn't mess around with it. And I kind of was like, yeah,
I get that, but also i'd love to just like
I would. It's not even go back like ten years

(50:41):
or anything. I'd love to just be like, oh, I'll
just redo this because you know I don't know.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Yeah, well, so here's the thing. I made a video
recently on my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash bread
S Thoughts where I ranked all of the magical items
from the Wizarding World. Yeah, and I talked about the
time turner like that, like I would so much rather
reverse time and change something I did that was embarrassing,
or if I bought the job interview, change but the
timetimeer doesn't work, like people in my comments really like

(51:08):
came at me. Because the timetimeer doesn't work like that,
your old self is still there. It's not like you're
back in that body. So you can't redo things because
that still happens, right.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
So yeah, no, so you can.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
You can't change what you did, but like for example,
when they free Buckbeat, but you can change the course
of things, but you can't change what you've actually already
done exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
But it would already have happened, right because you know,
like when like Harry sees his future self defeating the
dementors that happened in the past before he'd even done it.
So whatever happened to you that in that job interview
if you had already gone back in time to correct it,
that would have happened. But because it didn't, you can't
change it.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
The what you'd have to do is if you had
a bad job interview, you just have to somehow get
rid of like all the other candidates. So you're the
only candidate, So you can't change the job interview. You
can just change the outcome of the job interview through
that's true.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
So you're like, you're going on a mass murdering spree
of your.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
That's when I am for that job.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
You know what it's like out there.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
So we're drugging your children, drugging your lovers, and murdering
your your professional competitors. Yeah, really perfect. I was more
thinking you go back in time, buy a lottery ticket,
win the lottery, and and then you don't need the
job that you are worried about watching exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
That's so true. That's so true. Okay, yeah, okay, that's
made some very good points.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
The breath, thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Okay. Would you rather have a flying car or a broomstick? A?

Speaker 3 (52:38):
Oh, a broomstick, I think, but it will be far
less comfortable, wouldn't it.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
That's why I'm going car all day every day. I
hate being cold, I hate being so true.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Oh yeah, I might change, I might join you on car.
But a car is like way more visible, probably harder
to land.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, but it's got the invisibility button. Hopefully that works.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Just that's true. Like, it doesn't have to be a
beaten up old Ford Anglia. Right, you can get like tesla.
So true. Imagine running out of a battery like mid air,
though no charging points up there.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
It's so true. Okay.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Would you rather have a boggot turn into your most
embarrassing memory or receive a howler from a Pistoff family
member in the Great Hall?

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Oh howler?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (53:27):
I like, I don't deal well with with being scared
or embarrassed or anything like that, so i'd like, I
guess a howler would still be embarrassing, but I feel
like not quite as much as a bog at reliving
your worst memory.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Yeah, that's true, okay.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
And last one, would you rather spend the night alone
in the forbidden forest? Oh god, this is really good
for you if you don't really like being scared. But
a night alone in the forbidden forest or a night
alone in the chamber of secrets and the Basilisk is
still alive.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Oh the Forbidden Forest. Okay, does anyone say the Chamber
of Secrets?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I have had Chamber of Secrets yet.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Really, the moment you make eye contact with that snake,
you're dying immediately, just dead, just dead.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
But then there's their point is that's just one thing
you've got to worry about in the Forbidden Forest.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
You're like, ah, lots of stuff I've got to worry
about here.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Oh that's true.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Where's the Basilisk?

Speaker 1 (54:14):
You're like, just hide, just make sure you're not looking
at it, and just ride the night out.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Where's the Bidden Forest? Like any noise you're gonna be like,
what is that? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
That is I I think that's a fair point. But
I just I don't think there is a more frightening
creature in Harry Potter than the Basilisk. I think it's
worse than dementors. I think it's worse than Voldemort. Like
also Loki. If if the Chavor's Secrets hadn't happened, and
Lucius hadn't put the diary in Ginny's thing, and the

(54:42):
Basilisk hadn't died, imagine Voldemort rolling up in the seventh
story for the war, and he's got a snake, a
basilisk can control within the castle, everyone's like boarding themselves
in all the protection charts, and he's just like, I'll
just call my snake out and it'll kill everyone from
the inside. Like terrible strategic move. Leaving that diary with Louc.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, very true. Okay, right now I've
got to.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
If you're still willing to play, Yeah, I'm calling, even
though we now know it's problematic, and actually somebody else
pointed out how problematic. Love potionient is what I like
to call magic missilete, which is snung love potion, which
is mary.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Ava, which is kill.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Have you heard that game before?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
I'm guessing yes, it's not Mary Kill. I've played yet.
I haven't ever played Magic Missile Toe, Love Potion of Varticandava.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Though it's a podcast original game.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
First original thing on this podcast. I just I hope
the listeners know this is a bit and I actually
love being here in your podcast is fantastic. This is
I don't really mean any of this. Doesn't mean it's
not true, but I don't mean it.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, it's true, but he's okay with it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
Okay, my first one for you is.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Umbridge aunt Petunia Bella Trix was strange.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Okay, I am going to I'm gonna magic missilete Bella Trix.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
It's Bella tricks nice. I like that.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I just think I think she'd be interesting to like
have a little dance with. You know, I'm gonna love potion.
I think Petunia no marry. Yeah, I think I'm gonna

(56:41):
I'm gonna love potion. Petunia nice, lovely, Oh my god,
thank you so much. I'm gonna I think Vernon Dursley
is the worst of the Dursleys, and he made Petunia
worse because I think, like obviously she was jealous her sister,
and she became a little bit resentful. But I feel

(57:02):
like you could pull her back from that a little
bit until she's with Vernon, who is the worst. And
so I just feel like, you know, I'm a great person,
I could pull her back from that. I can fix her,
do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (57:13):
One hundred percent you can fix that.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
But Umbradge should should be a vardic adared.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Okay, that makes sense. Okay, I'll give you one more,
maybe two, No, one more. Pansy Parkinson m m Hermione.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yep, Luna loved Good.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Oh okay, I am going to magic missile Toe, Luna
love Potion, Hermione and AA pansy little panty.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I just don't think we get enough of her in
the books to really like like cling to anything. Also,
isn't she the one that's like, what are you doing?
Harry's right there, grab him and turn him over to Voldemort?
And that's not really someone I want to kiss or marry.
I feel like Luna's obsession with misinformation would bother me
through the length of her marriage. Like hunt that is

(58:09):
not that is an explosive horn. Stop playing with the
children with it.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
Whereas Hermione has no flaughts.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
So mine is perfect in every way.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Exactly, particularly like there are these these scenes where it's
just the back of her head that you see in
the films, and like that that in particular her best moments.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
You know, yes, I totally agree that is her finest work.
Or it's also they like to use my hand scanning
library books.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Reading Oh wow, yeah, so when she's scanning through things
in there.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
I have always thought Emma Watson did a great job
of scanning library books. But now I know it wasn't
her I did.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
I did the heavy lifting with that role than I
can tell, right, And I think that's a perfect place
to end.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
Wait, I know I have a question for you. Okay, oh,
sorry for it's okay, it's okay. Your head master of Hogwarts, okay.
And your first thing that you have to do, there's
no getting out of it, is you have to remove
an entire house from from Hogwarts. Every student is expelled,
that house can no longer exist. Which house you picking?

(59:18):
Don't you?

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Dare?

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I don't know why in my head, because I know
I know what I really am. I'm gonna say, Graffindle, Oh.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
You had this smirk on your face like you were
gonna choose Slytherin just to messake me.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Know why they need Hogwarts. I feel like Fenders will
just be fine on their own. They'll make their way,
and they'll make their way in the world.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Will they will they slitherin? That is true?

Speaker 2 (59:49):
What was your answer to that?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
That's a really By the way, I'm definitely writing that
down and stealing that one.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Oh, take it, take it. Why not do you want
me to give you the name of my old podcast,
you can just rebrand as well. I would probably pick
Gryffindor as well, because I just feel like there's too
much main character energy like this one house overshadows all
three other houses, like make space, do you know what
I mean? Make space for the rest of them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Totally agree, Totally agree.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Honestly, I've never met a Gryffindor who wasn't completely narcissistic
and full of themselves exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And that's the end of my podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Brett has promised not to sue me for copyright infringement,
so fingers crossed with safe. A huge thanks to him
for being such a great guest, and Brett, I truly
hope you get cast as Peter Pettigrew. I will share
his rat Man audition over on my Instagram for anybody
who needs a good laugh. The facial expression is truly priceless.

(01:01:06):
Next week, get ready for the Queen herself, Chanelle Williams.
If you're not already familiar with her, trust me you
will be after this episode. Chanelle is one of the
funniest creators around, with an iconic McGonagall impression that will
blow your mind. In fact, I'm just going to insert
a tiny little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Here will welcome to a hog Watch.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
We'll be diving into her journey in the wizding world.
We'll be talking about whether Maggie Smith has ever seen
her impression, and just more generally about her thoughts on
where the fandom stands today. So don't miss it until then,
have a magical week everyone, Pepper