August 8, 2025 • 42 mins
The Murder Of Janet Abaroa AND David Crespi Murdered His Two Daughters - True Crime Documentary
Janet Abaroa, 26, was brutally killed inside her house on the evening of April 26th, 2005, while her six-month-old son slept soundly in the next room. The brutal murder of a young mother stunned Durham and devastated her family and friends.
Raven Abaroa, her worried husband, dialed 911 in a panic. Not long after her murder, he was the one who discovered her body. Raven and Janet were college sweethearts who married soon after graduation. On the surface, their relationship appeared to be great, but family and friends were concerned.
Raven was caught embezzling from his work, which was the most surprising recent information leading up to Janet's death. Raven's knife collection was mysteriously missing from the house on the night of Janet's murder, and he stood to gain $500,000 from his wife's life insurance policy.Raven, on the other hand, had an alibi: he was at a soccer game in the evening. Janet was in bed watching TV when he departed, he said cops (her nightly routine). He had no idea that this minor detail would lead to a new finding in the case
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The case remained unsolved for five years. Raven moved on with his life and married Vanessa Pond in Salt Lake City, Utah, with his kid.
In 2013, Zwerling received the evidence package, which included dried contact lenses. The contact lenses rehydrated when he added a saline solution, demonstrating that they were in Janet's eyes at the time of her murder and after she was buried.
While Raven maintains that he did not murder Janet, the rest of the world, including his second wife, believes he did.
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Janet Abaroa, 26, was brutally killed inside her house on the evening of April 26th, 2005, while her six-month-old son slept soundly in the next room. The brutal murder of a young mother stunned Durham and devastated her family and friends.
Raven Abaroa, her worried husband, dialed 911 in a panic. Not long after her murder, he was the one who discovered her body. Raven and Janet were college sweethearts who married soon after graduation. On the surface, their relationship appeared to be great, but family and friends were concerned.
Raven was caught embezzling from his work, which was the most surprising recent information leading up to Janet's death. Raven's knife collection was mysteriously missing from the house on the night of Janet's murder, and he stood to gain $500,000 from his wife's life insurance policy.Raven, on the other hand, had an alibi: he was at a soccer game in the evening. Janet was in bed watching TV when he departed, he said cops (her nightly routine). He had no idea that this minor detail would lead to a new finding in the case
.
The case remained unsolved for five years. Raven moved on with his life and married Vanessa Pond in Salt Lake City, Utah, with his kid.
In 2013, Zwerling received the evidence package, which included dried contact lenses. The contact lenses rehydrated when he added a saline solution, demonstrating that they were in Janet's eyes at the time of her murder and after she was buried.
While Raven maintains that he did not murder Janet, the rest of the world, including his second wife, believes he did.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's a picture perfect coup.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was awesome to marry her for a time in attorneys.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But they're time together cut sure.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was calling to tell them that Janet was dead
and she had committed suicide.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We automatically knew that was not right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What would a second wife learn about the death.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Of the first That night I stayed up until about
four o'clock in the.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Morning, the mysterious death of Janet Abaroa and a big,
joyful family.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
There was a house of love, in peace and fun.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Until dad ticked out the two sharpest kitchen knives she
could find.
Speaker 8 (00:52):
How did so much to daughter?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What could have driven him?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I think he's the biggest victim.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And how can his wife or give him? Welcome to
twenty twenty on ID. I'm John Quinones. Couples often think
they know nearly everything about their spouses, but in the
stories ahead, two different wives would find themselves caught off
guard by the men they loved first college sweethearts starting
(01:22):
their lives together full of hope. But as I first
reported in two thousand and nine, after Janet Abarroa was murdered,
her family wondered if she had ever really known her
husband at all. Sometimes when you meet someone, you just
know it's love. Janet Christensen knew that the day she
(01:44):
met Raven Aberroa at college in Virginia. She thought he
was attracted.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Yeah, cute, who is definitely her type.
Speaker 10 (01:54):
She always talked about if they had any kids, they
were going to be fantastic soccer players because.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
With a memoir.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Janet grew up in a solid Mormon family, the seventh
of ten siblings. Her sisters say she was so easy
to get along with, a.
Speaker 11 (02:11):
Very sweet, spirit, loving kind.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
She loved children.
Speaker 11 (02:21):
She had an opportunity to watch all of mine as
they grew up. It's not just that she loved them,
I mean they all gravitate towards her.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
They loved her.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Janet was also a natural athlete and went on to
play soccer at Southern Virginia University. She already had a boyfriend,
but Raven Abaroa swept her off her feet. And it
seems Raven was smitten too.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
She was beautiful, attractive. I just felt so much comfort
when I was with her, and we just started this
journey of getting to know each other. That was just
it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What would she say about him?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
She was just infetuated. I mean, she is this going
for He's He's going to be successful.
Speaker 12 (03:03):
He tried very hard to make everybody believe he has
a perfect life.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Janet was convinced that Raven had that perfect life, and
two years later they married at the Mormon Temple in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It was awesome to be able to kneel across from
her and marry her.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
For a time and eternity, the Abarroas settled in southeastern Virginia,
where Tim Dowd and his family were their neighbors.
Speaker 13 (03:30):
We were just part of a big family. They both
came from big families and they didn't have any family
in the immediate area. So they kind of adopted us
and hung out out our house a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Hey, everybody Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
On their Christmas video car to their families, the Abarrowas
seem like the perfect happy couple.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We wish you the best and the warmest feelings this
holiday season.
Speaker 13 (03:52):
Janet, what would you like to say?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I would like to say, marry Christmas.
Speaker 14 (03:57):
In a happy new year.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Life was looking good for Janet and Raven.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Yeah, he appeared to have his act together.
Speaker 13 (04:03):
I mean he was young, newly married, had bought their
first home, you know, had a couple of nice cars
on a motorcycle, and like, wow, this guy's kind of
off to a pretty fast start.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
They both get jobs with a big sporting goods companies
and the couple moves to Durham, North Carolina. It should
have been the happiest time of their lives, but then
her sister say Raven confesses to Janet that he's been
sleeping with other women.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
He came to her one day because he wanted to
be out of the marriage and explain to her that
he had been cheating on her with several different people,
and very soon after that, she found out she was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
She didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
She didn't want to raise the baby as a single mother.
Speaker 10 (04:48):
She thought she was married to with someone completely different,
and despite finding out that he was somebody completely different,
still being torn whether to stay with them and be
with him because she had made that commitment to him
and to God.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
In the spring of two thousand and four, two and
a half years into the marriage, Janet asks the Dowbs
if she can visit them for a few days.
Speaker 13 (05:12):
And he said, sure, come on up. You could tell
she wanted she needed somewhere to go. She was crying,
very distraught, and she told me she loved Raven and
she didn't want to have this child by herself. She
loved him, she wanted him back, but not not under
their conditions with When he left.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Tim agrees to talk to Raven. After all, he sees
him almost like a son.
Speaker 13 (05:35):
And I kind of read him the riot Act in
a major way. You know, what the hell do you
think you're doing. You're married, your wife is pregnant. You
need to grow up real quick.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Oh.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
He promised, were up and down, that he would no
longer cheat on her, that she was the only one
for him.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
He would make it work.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
On October seventeenth, two thousand and four, Janet gives birth
to a son, Kayden. Raven appears to be a great
dad and is in awe of his son, but then
another blow. Raven is caught stealing from his job and
is fired. Coworkers say Janet is so embarrassed that she resigns,
but she doesn't give up on Raven. He would eventually
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plead guilty with five charges of embezzlement, but he's able
to avoid serving time in jail. Raven finds a new
job with a computer company, and the marriage seems to
be on the men. It's the evening of April twenty six,
two thousand and five. Janet is doing the laundry and
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Raven is working in the house.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We looked at Kiten's sleeping, made sure everything was good
with him, and put her arms around each other, and
you know, said.
Speaker 15 (06:48):
I really love you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Then Raven says he goes off to play soccer. He
returns home that night at about ten forty five, and
that's when he says, he makes a horrifying discovery.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'd always go in and give kidd a kiss and
just feel his warm little body in and that's uh,
you know, that's when I.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Found out that something was.
Speaker 16 (07:27):
I can't understand you.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Something of what lot.
Speaker 14 (07:41):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The marriage of Janet and Raven Avarroa looked rosy at
the start, but only two years later it was beginning
to unravel. Still, nothing could prepare Janet's family for the
horrifying news they were about to receive. It's five o'clock
in the morning when Janet's parents get a phone call
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from Raven.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
He was calling to tell them that Janet was dead
and she had committed suicide.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
She had killed herself with a gun, which we automatically
knew that was not right.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
She wouldn't have done that. No, she would have never
killed herself. Ever, we knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In fact, police quickly realized that Janet has been murdered
and not with a gun. She'd been stabbed to death,
and autopsy later showed she was pregnant.
Speaker 11 (08:44):
The police knew that it wasn't a suicide, and then
it wasn't a gun. They knew that there was a
knife they were looking for when the Yellow taped that
house and were searching the house, they were looking for
a knife.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Apart, I was mourning the loss of my best friend
and of my wife, and of Caden's mom.
Speaker 15 (09:22):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That in and of itself. It was so much pain
that it was hard to deal with every day.
Speaker 13 (09:32):
Janet Everioa was found inside her fair and drive home
less with.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
What appeared to be a stab wound in her chest.
Speaker 16 (09:38):
Dual Police have not named any suspects, but will only
say her murder was not random. We're looking for anybody
with any information on this case to call us.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Raven knew that he didn't want to raise his young
son on his own. In an interview with a TV
show North Carolina Wanted, he talked about what it's like
for Caden to be without his mother.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And I think it's wonderful that he knows his mom,
he knows her name. I try to share the things
that his mom does that he appreciates. Those two pictures
of her graduating from college. When you know the question
comes to where is mommy, you know she's in heaven
looking down at you. She's playing soccer in heaven. She's
watching you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just a few weeks after his wife's murder, Raven decides
to take his son and move west to South Lake City,
where he grew up, to live close to his Mormon family.
But North Carolina is not the kind of place where
unsolved murders sit quietly.
Speaker 16 (10:40):
Raven provided cooperation at the beginning of the investigation, but
there have been subsequent requests for interviews that have gone unanswered.
Speaker 13 (10:48):
I kept talking to Raven about you've got to help
solve this case. I mean, personally, my thought is if
somebody murders my wife or a child, or any close
family member of mine, I'm banging on the police store
saying what have you done?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Lately, Raven did nothing.
Speaker 13 (11:01):
Within a week, he left and never came back, with
the exception of sneaking in the town wants to pick
up his furniture.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And he left. Raven meanwhile, has turned to a new
chapter in his life in the Salt Lake City suburb
of Jordan. He starts working at this bicycle shop, but
his employer says he again is fired or stealing. But then,
two and a half years after the death of his
first wife, Raven meets Vanessa Pond, a single mother whose
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daughter Aria is in the same daycare as Raven's son Kayden.
But Vanessa, according to her father, is definitely not interested
in starting any romance.
Speaker 17 (11:39):
Haister jokingly referred to her as the president of the
Man Haters Club.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But sometimes when you meet someone, you just know it.
And soon after Vanessa meets Raven Abaroa, She's in love.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
What was it about him that you liked?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
He seems very upfront, very honest and genuine. Found out
that you know, he was a single father, and I'd
really really admired that I'd been a single mom for
five years. I know what it takes to raise a child.
I thought, you know, maybe I'll give him a chance
because he could be a fantastic father, fantastic husband. So
(12:18):
I finally fell for the nice guy, is what I've thought.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Did he mention his ex wife what.
Speaker 15 (12:27):
Happened to her?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yes, yes, as we were just starting to date, he
he just mentioned that my wife actually died, and so
that I immediately felt so sorry for him and Kayden
and to take them in and give them all the
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love that they're.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Missing out on.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Did he say she was murdered?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He said that there was an intruder and that and
that she was killed, and that he'd found her.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And he'd left it at that, and so did Vanessa,
that is until she started researching Janet's murder on the internet.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Janet that night I stayed up until about four o'clock
in the morning, reading blogs, watching his interviews, reading all
the news stories about it, and going out of.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
My mind.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Thinking what I thought. You know, there's no way, there's
no way. And I watched I remember watching the interview
and I wasn't convinced that he was ascent, that he
was ancent. I felt that in the interview there was
a part where they asked him, you know what he
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saw what he came home to I don't.
Speaker 12 (13:54):
Like talking about what happened to her.
Speaker 17 (13:56):
And it's not because I don't love her.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's not because I don't want to find out who.
It's because I have so many good memories with her
that you know, I hate thinking about the bad times.
You know, for me, I just honestly I cannot even
come to relive all those moments again. And you know,
even today, when I've been prepping for weeks to kind
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of talk about it, it's so hard to even want
to say, you know, this is what I saw, because
it's not something I want to see again ever.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And that's how I learned that she was stacked. So
I went over and I spoke with him, asking the
questions that I had, and he removed and every doubt
from my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Raven may have been able to convince his view girlfriend,
but back in North Carolina, Janet's family and friends had
many theories about what happened to Janet, and they say
all their suspicions pointed toward Raven.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I knew he killed her the morning I found out.
Speaker 17 (15:03):
The exact second, there was no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
And my instantaneous nanosecond reaction was, oh my god, Raven
has killed Janet.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And they wonder if this was a break in, why
was Janet's jewelry left behind?
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Her wedding rings were on the counter right where the
supposed break in happened, where the door was left.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Ajar sitting right there.
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Nothing else was missing except his laptop and the knives.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The knives. As it turns out, Raven was very proud
of his knife collection. Remember that Christmas video While with
Janet in the background, Raven brags about the special knife
he's bought for himself.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Money knife got full Christmas.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Thank you about it myself.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My dad would be very proud. I like the click knife.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Janet didn't think much of it at the time when
Raven took out a life insurance policy for each of
them when she became pregnant. After all, parents often buy
policies when they have a child on the way. But
now her family and friends find it suspicious.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
He had taken out a life insurance policy soon after
she got you know, she found out she was pregnant
with Kayden.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
How much was the policy five hundred thousand on her?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Is he capable of doing that? Doing it with the
insurance money? Absolutely, the Abaroa's old neighbor, Tim Dowd, has
pondered and studied every detail of the case.
Speaker 18 (16:24):
Everything points back to Raven, but two thousand miles away
in Utah, Raven's new girlfriend, Vanessa, is convinced this poor
grieving widower needs to be loved.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And cared for.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
He started talking about me moving in after probably just
a few weeks, and that was very very fast for me,
especially since I had my daughter to think about. And
I told him that I wouldn't be moving in with
anybody if I wasn't at least engaged to them, knowing
that Woven's spend the rest of my life with them.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Vanessa is unaware of the extent of the suspicions of
Janet's family and friends. Who were you worried that this might.
Speaker 15 (17:07):
Be a mistake.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't have a question in mind.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
At the screen, We'll be right back. Young mother Janet
Abarroa has been stabbed to death, and her siblings suspect
Janet's husband, Raven, had something to do with the murder. Meanwhile,
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Raven has started a new life out west and fallen
in love again. Can he bury the past or will
it follow him? Nearly three years after the murder of
his first wife, Raven Abarroa asks Vanessa Pond to marry him,
but Vanessa's father, a former police officer, has a CoP's
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hunch and a father's instinct.
Speaker 17 (18:00):
The Christian side of me wants to believe that he's
innocent until proven guilty. The police officer side of me says,
there's there's a there's something wrong with this picture somewhere.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So as concerned parents, they have a candid discussion with
the man their daughter has fallen.
Speaker 15 (18:17):
In love with.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They asked him if he'd had anything to do with
his wife's death.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
His response was he kind of sidest the question, and
he didn't say yes I did it or no, I
didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
He said I loved my wife. I loved her so.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Much, which insinuates that he didn't do it. But he
didn't come right out and say that he didn't.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
And he was in tears, and she went over and
put her arm around him to console him and comfort him.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
She says, no, I know the guy by now, and
I really convinced that.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
He's not guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
At the end of it, they still had their reservations,
but after that, Raven asked my dad for my hand
in marriage.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Vanessa and Raven have a beautiful wedding in her parents' backyard.
As they leave for their honeymoon, Vanessa's mom gives her
a kiss and Raven a message, just.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Take good care of my little girl.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He would.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But then on one of the nights of their Las
Vegas honeymoon, Vanessa says, Raven tells her something she still
wonders about to this very day.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And he started talking about Janet and how mad he
was after she died, not how sad, not how heartbroken,
just mad that hohome, just that she was dead. And
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then he cuddled up closer to me and he said,
I promise I'll never hurt you. I didn't know what
to think about that, or how to feel about that.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
It scared me to go.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
When Janet's sisters learned Raven has remarried, they feel the
duty to talk to his new wife, Vanessa, and they
have a dire message.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
We just wanted her to make sure she was aware of.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Things that had been in the news about him, that
she would know what she was getting into, and.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That we were fearful for her. I was heartbroken. I
did not want to believe at all.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Illness, and she says Raven was beginning to act in
ways she just couldn't understand.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Within moments, he could switch, She could say the most
horrible things. I was an effing horror a lot, an
effing B word, and that one thing you never call
a woman, that C word. And then moments later, can
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you apologize, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I was just mad.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That's just what I say when I'm mad, That's just.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What I do.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And Vanessa says the abuse became physical.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He grabbed me from the door and threw me up
against the wall, and then I fell. Later he tried
to convince me that I had tripped. He began to
call my own family and my own friends and my coworkers,
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telling them that I was horribly depressed and bipolar and
that I probably needed to be institutionalized.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
It got really bad.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Vanessa says. She becomes more and more frightened for her
safety and begins making plans to leave Raven, but her
parents say she's trying to hide it from everyone.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
She can put on a really good front for being happy,
and I think that she was pulling every resource she
had within herself to give that illusion of happiness in
her marriage.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It was the week before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12 (22:55):
I think it was when she came to us and
then told us that gleness of it all and felt
she needed to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Finally, the day before Christmas, everything comes to a head.
As they're getting ready to go to Vanessa's parents' house
for dinner Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
He had me backed into the corner.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
And I'm screaming at me, and I'm me Kattan poking
in the chest, just feeling at me. I ended up
with bruises on my chest from him. He started gathering
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his things.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Are you glad you let him go Christmas Eve?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It wouldn't become worse.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Raven has denied he was ever physically abusive to Vanessa,
but she remains convinced that Raven walked out that night
because he wanted to tell his family and friends that
it was Vanessa who was unstable and suicidal, all part
of a plan, she says, to make it look like
Vanessa might kill herself.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I think he was in the process of setting it
up with family and friends that I'm suicidal.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Interesting in Jacqueline hides that I lived with.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
His eyes would just change.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I think it was very scary.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Because you didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's one thing to be abusive, very belly and physically.
You think he's a murderer.
Speaker 16 (24:43):
Yeah, yes, we have a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence
it's but we're looking for for something that we believe
will provide us with enough information to go to a
journey and proved this case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
We would obviously like to talk to Raven.
Speaker 16 (25:05):
We have some questions we'd like to ask.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
The only public comment Raven has made regarding his wife's
murder was in that North Carolina Wanted TV interview.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The bottom line is that I wasn't involved with the
death of my wife. That I would do anything in
the world to keep her here with me, and that's just,
you know, that's something that I know, That's something that
Janet knows, and that's something that I think that people
who truly know Janet, truly know me, can understand and
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But the women who say they knew Janet better than
anyone her sisters remained convinced that Raven was somehow involved
in Janet's murder.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
He hasn't done anything to prove otherwise. He hasn't helped
the police. He hasn't sat down and with the police.
He hasn't like set out a reward help me find
my wife killer.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
And if he didn't do it, he needs to step
up to the place and take the light detect test
and talk to the detectives and cooperates so that a
least they can rule him out and move on.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Five years after Janet's death, Raven Abarroa was extradited to
North Carolina and charged with her murder. While his first
trial ended in a hung jury, in March twenty fourteen,
he was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter after entering an
alfred plea and that means the defendant does not admit guilt,
but does acknowledge that the evidence would probably have resulted
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in a conviction. Abarroa was sentenced to eight to ten
years in prison. Vanessa Pond's marriage to Raven was annulled.
When we return a loving father on the edge.
Speaker 19 (26:49):
One day you go from unfunctioning to I'm not functioning and.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
His children's lives on the line.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
He said he picked out the two biggest and sharpest
kitchen knyes if he could find, and he knew how
well they would cut.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Stay with us. David Cresby loved his children, but even
so a shocking act of violence would change his family forever, and,
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as Jim abby Loaf first reported in two thousand and eight,
it would also test the limits of a wife's faith
and love.
Speaker 20 (27:34):
It was a grand house on a pleasant suburban street.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Is a tree?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Chris moved?
Speaker 11 (27:40):
And yet how are you good?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Warning?
Speaker 19 (27:45):
Say hi?
Speaker 21 (27:48):
Yes?
Speaker 20 (27:49):
Filled with children laughed, and a pair of adoring parents
yellin Josh or chess.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
What's the house of love?
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Who was a house of love and peace and fun?
Speaker 15 (28:04):
I had the American dream.
Speaker 19 (28:06):
I had a beautiful home with great neighbors and friends.
I was senior vice president of a fortune one hundred
company the time with my kids, that was just wonderful.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
Most of all, my wife is just incredible.
Speaker 20 (28:20):
David and Kim were married two years after his first
wife died of brain cancer, leaving him with two small children,
and their family grew quickly, five Cresby kids in all,
as Kim gave birth to a son, and then four
years later, their Pride and Joy, the final happy addition
to their family, identical twins, Casserah and Cement.
Speaker 15 (28:44):
And Testa Samuel precious to us. They were incredible. They
were a gift. We just were so thrilled to have them.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
He adored them.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I adored them, our children adored them. They brought so
much joy.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
To all of us.
Speaker 20 (28:59):
The Crespy fly seemed to have everything, including a disturbing
secret about David that threatened to destroy it all.
Speaker 19 (29:08):
One day, you go from unfunctioning to I'm not functioning.
Then your mind lies to you and says, no, this
is not going to end.
Speaker 15 (29:17):
This is all there is.
Speaker 20 (29:20):
David Cresby suffered crippling bouts of depression that began in
his late twenties.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
David is a really intense person, very bright, goes from
A to Z. When we were getting married, I didn't
really know that he could possibly have a severe mental disorder.
He was still sweet, he was still loving, but he
would just be kind of in another world.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I take him to therapy.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
We talked with a therapist about him trying to get
back into the game.
Speaker 20 (29:46):
Getting back into the game at his high stakes job
was not always so easy. David often missed work, but Cresby,
who was a vice president at a major bank, says
his coworkers enabled him, excusing his dark days.
Speaker 19 (30:00):
If you're a senior executive officer, you don't punch a clock,
so you crawl into work at ten o'clock.
Speaker 15 (30:07):
People cover for you.
Speaker 21 (30:09):
So you were successful enough, valuable enough to the company
that they look the other way during those periods.
Speaker 15 (30:15):
Just get better. We know you'll get better, and good intentions.
Speaker 20 (30:20):
At his lowest moments, the disease made Crespy a devout Catholic,
consider committing a mortal.
Speaker 15 (30:25):
Sin that was suicidal.
Speaker 19 (30:28):
I attempted to take my own life from a car
in the garage, running a car in the garage, hung
off a bridge in California.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
How many times do you think you tried to commit suicide?
Speaker 15 (30:39):
About four or five times?
Speaker 8 (30:42):
He promised he wouldn't commit suicide.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I want you that it's not my favorite. It's not
what I believe, it's not who I am.
Speaker 19 (30:48):
I did promise her that I wouldn't do it, but again,
I was reasoning with an impaired, unstable mind. Isn't something
where people can take that to the bag, can.
Speaker 15 (31:00):
Rely on it.
Speaker 20 (31:03):
That promise did not stop the dark, dangerous thoughts. It
just changed the focus to a new, different target.
Speaker 15 (31:11):
I thought about killing other people.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Were your thoughts about hurting strangers or your family.
Speaker 15 (31:16):
Members, family members, They're just people that were around me.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Were they detailed thoughts or were they just sort of.
Speaker 19 (31:25):
Random, rational, random crazy thoughts that horrify me?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And did you tell your therapist about those? Now? Did
you tell your wife about those thoughts? Now? So you
kept those to yourself because I.
Speaker 15 (31:38):
Didn't think they were real.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He's not able to engage with people. He's being very
anti social. He's saying, I'm going to lose my job,
We're in financial ruin, and I'm sitting there thinking, I
don't think those things are true.
Speaker 20 (31:56):
Kim took her husband to see his psychiatrist, who, she says,
told Cresby he was quote catastrophizing. He recommended antidepressants, but
Cresby complained that the paxel he had previously been prescribed
caused him to gain too much weight, so he says
his doctor switched him to another antidepressant, a move that
the Crespies claim would prove disastrous.
Speaker 22 (32:19):
When people are started on medication, monitoring is essential because
their mood may become quite changeable as the medication kicks in.
Speaker 20 (32:28):
Clinical psychiatrist Maria Okendo is that a dangerous.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Period of time.
Speaker 22 (32:32):
Anytime you introduce new medication, it's a little bit dangerous.
Speaker 20 (32:36):
How dangerous would become devastatingly clear. Just one week after
starting his new medication, and only one day after visiting
his therapist, David Cresby's catastrophic thoughts became frighteningly real.
Speaker 19 (32:50):
It's hard for me and anyone who grows up in
the society where we think you're the master of your
destiny and you control your own thoughts both there's a
part of the mind where you go this is nice character.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
So this is not the Dave Cresby you knew and loved.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
This isn't the David Cresby you know today. This is
the Dave Cresby of that moment you heard, by medicorship,
by a miss diagnosis, by no monitoring, by psychosis, and
testing Sam in the wrong place.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Stay with me, Shank Executive. David Cresby was on the edge.
He was having dark thoughts and had attempted suicide. So far,
he hadn't harmed himself or others, but that was about
to change. With the chilling conclusion of our story Jim Abla.
Speaker 20 (33:51):
In January two thousand and six, David Cresby was again
suffering about of deep depression, unable to work. The happy
life he and his wife, Kim had biled over the
last ten years was about to tragically crumble. David was
at home with his wife and their five year old twins.
Kim ran out to get her hair done and the
girls asked him to play. For David Cresby, the scene
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had been set.
Speaker 15 (34:18):
We were playing a game.
Speaker 19 (34:19):
We were playing Hide and Seek, and it just came
to me that there is no feature. There is nothing,
and this was all set up as a sign. Kim
left to get her hair done, and that's the way
it's all aligned for them to die.
Speaker 20 (34:36):
While the kids were hiding around the house immersed and
Hide and Seek, David Cresby took knives from the kitchen cabin.
Speaker 15 (34:44):
I stabbed them, but I never saw them.
Speaker 19 (34:47):
I held them down and made sure that they were
not facing me.
Speaker 20 (34:54):
After murdering his daughters, Crespy matter of factly changed his
clothes and grabbed his our keys in order, he says
to drive off and commit suicide.
Speaker 19 (35:05):
And then I remembered that I couldn't kill myself because
I promised him I wouldn't.
Speaker 20 (35:12):
That's when David said he heard a voice coming from
the sprinklers on his front lawn.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
Lea was saying, you have to call someone. You have
to call nine one one Place Department. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I just killed my true daughters. You get what?
Speaker 15 (35:31):
I just killed my two daughters, he said.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
He picked out the two biggest and sharpest kitchen knives
he could find, and he knew how well they would cut.
Speaker 10 (35:41):
Are they breathing or anything?
Speaker 15 (35:42):
Now, sir judge, what did you do to him?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
He stabbed him?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
How many times did you stab him?
Speaker 15 (35:48):
Got enough?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Sam was found downstairs in the kitchen. She had eighteen
stab wounds. One of the stab wounds the knife was
still in still in her chest. Officers ran upstairs and
found tests in the master bathroom and she had fourteen
stab wounds.
Speaker 19 (36:05):
For how how long that this happen?
Speaker 6 (36:09):
But there still might be some time, We still might
be able to help them though their lads.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
For guest, I have seen a lot of horrible things,
but there is something about the murder of a child.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
And to see the murder of two.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Children that are identical twins, it's like mirror images of murder.
Speaker 20 (36:30):
Crespy was arrested, taken to jail, and placed on a
suicide watch. Prison psychologist examined him and concluded that he
suffered from a serious mental illness, not simple depression, but
the much more dangerous bipolar disorder sometimes known as manic depressions.
Speaker 22 (36:48):
There aren't situations in which the person can have both
symptoms of depression and symptoms of mania at the same time.
Those are very, very dangerous because the person all and
had the energy of mania and the despondency of depression,
and that can be a fatal combination.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
David Cresby, who was charged with stabbing the girls today.
Speaker 20 (37:10):
And at first it was just local newss a tragic
story of a father taking the life of his children.
It became a national whisper campaign when Kim Cresby did
what you could never imagine a mother doing.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Girl the battle of mental illness raged and the most
innocent members of our family are.
Speaker 19 (37:29):
Lost to this life.
Speaker 20 (37:31):
She continued their marriage and love affair in weekly visits
to prison, blaming everyone but him. Kim Cresby forgave the
husband who killed her kids.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
See it, how can I forgive him? It's grace, it's
but it's also a choice. I don't have any regrets
I'm married my soulmate. I'm still married to my soulmate,
and Dave needs me, So there's lots of reasons to
get up in the morning.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
And what God asked for us?
Speaker 8 (38:01):
You know, are you amazed that she could forgive you?
What did she tell you?
Speaker 19 (38:06):
I can't remember the exact words, but I just remember
the love, and I just remember her sorrow for them
and her sorrow for me, and.
Speaker 15 (38:22):
I remember just being awestruck by that.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
Why can't you just turn your back on Dave?
Speaker 15 (38:35):
Why would I?
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Because he killed our girls. I think he's the biggest
victim here, Sam Tester gone. But they're in heaven, and
I believe heaven is so glorious that I wouldn't want
them back for one minute for them they're fine or
not Dave, especially not.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
Kim Crespy blames the death of her children and David's predicament.
I'm psychiatrists then therapist, who she says, missed a critical diagnosis,
finding in his dark moods depression and not the more
serious bipolar symptoms.
Speaker 22 (39:09):
One of the things that makes it difficult to diagnose
bipolar disorder is that usually when the person is euphoric,
you can imagine that they're not that interested in treatment
because they feel good, and they present for treatment usually
when they are depressed, when they feel terrible, and it
often takes a lot of uncovering to figure out that
it's a bipolar disorder.
Speaker 20 (39:30):
According to a study conducted in two thousand and one,
it takes patients an average of ten years and four
different psychiatrists to arrive at a bipolar diagnosis. David Cresby says,
that's what happened in his.
Speaker 21 (39:43):
Case, And at what point did you start to think
or did others start to think that this was more
than depression, that this may be manic depression or bipolar.
Speaker 15 (39:53):
It wasn't until I came to prison.
Speaker 19 (39:55):
I mean, the best, the best psychiatric care I've gotten
in my life has been in this prison.
Speaker 20 (40:01):
Crespy believes that success blinds his big house in the suburbs,
the big job in the skyscraper, perfect family, no drug problems,
all full doctors and therapists who may have overlooked his
bipolar symptoms.
Speaker 19 (40:15):
When you're in a twelve hundred dollars Hickey Freeman suit
and you tell them what you do for a living,
that to some of them could be intimidating.
Speaker 20 (40:28):
Crespy has traded in forever his three piece suit for
a prison issued uniform, and the antidepressants have been replaced
by the more powerful lithium for his bipolar disorder.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
Are the dark thoughts gone?
Speaker 15 (40:40):
Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 19 (40:42):
I haven't been depressed since I came to prison because
I've been correctly medicated.
Speaker 15 (40:47):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
People that say that he's fine now and he's fixed.
They all thought he was fine. Then nobody saw this company.
The only person that saw it, I mean is David Cresby.
Speaker 20 (41:01):
Prosecutor Marshall Goodenow believes that circumstances would have been very
different if Cresby had been honest with his psychiatrist from
the beginning.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
He never told them what he wanted to do to
his family, but then wants to say the system has
failed him because he wasn't properly diagnosed. He alone could
have stopped what he did to his family if he
just told somebody what he was thinking or feeling.
Speaker 20 (41:29):
Cresby avoided a trial by pleading guilty to two counts
of first degree murder. The former bank vice president is
living his life sentence without the possibility of parole in
an eight x twelve prison cell in North Carolina, where
he keeps pictures of his slain twin daughters on his wall.
Speaker 15 (41:48):
I loved him dearly and I miss him, and my
life and the lives of all the people in love
will never be the.
Speaker 20 (41:57):
Same except for Kim's Saturday visits. David Crespy is virtually alone,
a man blessed by the forgiveness of his family, but
cursed by the ironic clarity his new medicine gives him,
allowing him to be forever haunted by those images that
line his.
Speaker 15 (42:15):
Self to the victim him.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And how can his wife
That's a picture perfect coup.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It was awesome to marry her for a time in attorneys.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
But they're time together cut sure.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
I was calling to tell them that Janet was dead
and she had committed suicide.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
We automatically knew that was not right.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
What would a second wife learn about the death.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Of the first That night I stayed up until about
four o'clock in the.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Morning, the mysterious death of Janet Abaroa and a big,
joyful family.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
There was a house of love, in peace and fun.
Speaker 7 (00:45):
Until dad ticked out the two sharpest kitchen knives she
could find.
Speaker 8 (00:52):
How did so much to daughter?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
What could have driven him?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I think he's the biggest victim.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
And how can his wife or give him? Welcome to
twenty twenty on ID. I'm John Quinones. Couples often think
they know nearly everything about their spouses, but in the
stories ahead, two different wives would find themselves caught off
guard by the men they loved first college sweethearts starting
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their lives together full of hope. But as I first
reported in two thousand and nine, after Janet Abarroa was murdered,
her family wondered if she had ever really known her
husband at all. Sometimes when you meet someone, you just
know it's love. Janet Christensen knew that the day she
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met Raven Aberroa at college in Virginia. She thought he
was attracted.
Speaker 9 (01:50):
Yeah, cute, who is definitely her type.
Speaker 10 (01:54):
She always talked about if they had any kids, they
were going to be fantastic soccer players because.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
With a memoir.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Janet grew up in a solid Mormon family, the seventh
of ten siblings. Her sisters say she was so easy
to get along with, a.
Speaker 11 (02:11):
Very sweet, spirit, loving kind.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
She loved children.
Speaker 11 (02:21):
She had an opportunity to watch all of mine as
they grew up. It's not just that she loved them,
I mean they all gravitate towards her.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
They loved her.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Janet was also a natural athlete and went on to
play soccer at Southern Virginia University. She already had a boyfriend,
but Raven Abaroa swept her off her feet. And it
seems Raven was smitten too.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
She was beautiful, attractive. I just felt so much comfort
when I was with her, and we just started this
journey of getting to know each other. That was just
it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
What would she say about him?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
She was just infetuated. I mean, she is this going
for He's He's going to be successful.
Speaker 12 (03:03):
He tried very hard to make everybody believe he has
a perfect life.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Janet was convinced that Raven had that perfect life, and
two years later they married at the Mormon Temple in Washington,
d C.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It was awesome to be able to kneel across from
her and marry her.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
For a time and eternity, the Abarroas settled in southeastern Virginia,
where Tim Dowd and his family were their neighbors.
Speaker 13 (03:30):
We were just part of a big family. They both
came from big families and they didn't have any family
in the immediate area. So they kind of adopted us
and hung out out our house a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Hey, everybody Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
On their Christmas video car to their families, the Abarrowas
seem like the perfect happy couple.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
We wish you the best and the warmest feelings this
holiday season.
Speaker 13 (03:52):
Janet, what would you like to say?
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I would like to say, marry Christmas.
Speaker 14 (03:57):
In a happy new year.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Life was looking good for Janet and Raven.
Speaker 8 (04:02):
Yeah, he appeared to have his act together.
Speaker 13 (04:03):
I mean he was young, newly married, had bought their
first home, you know, had a couple of nice cars
on a motorcycle, and like, wow, this guy's kind of
off to a pretty fast start.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
They both get jobs with a big sporting goods companies
and the couple moves to Durham, North Carolina. It should
have been the happiest time of their lives, but then
her sister say Raven confesses to Janet that he's been
sleeping with other women.
Speaker 10 (04:29):
He came to her one day because he wanted to
be out of the marriage and explain to her that
he had been cheating on her with several different people,
and very soon after that, she found out she was pregnant.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
She didn't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
She didn't want to raise the baby as a single mother.
Speaker 10 (04:48):
She thought she was married to with someone completely different,
and despite finding out that he was somebody completely different,
still being torn whether to stay with them and be
with him because she had made that commitment to him
and to God.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
In the spring of two thousand and four, two and
a half years into the marriage, Janet asks the Dowbs
if she can visit them for a few days.
Speaker 13 (05:12):
And he said, sure, come on up. You could tell
she wanted she needed somewhere to go. She was crying,
very distraught, and she told me she loved Raven and
she didn't want to have this child by herself. She
loved him, she wanted him back, but not not under
their conditions with When he left.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Tim agrees to talk to Raven. After all, he sees
him almost like a son.
Speaker 13 (05:35):
And I kind of read him the riot Act in
a major way. You know, what the hell do you
think you're doing. You're married, your wife is pregnant. You
need to grow up real quick.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Oh.
Speaker 10 (05:44):
He promised, were up and down, that he would no
longer cheat on her, that she was the only one
for him.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
He would make it work.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
On October seventeenth, two thousand and four, Janet gives birth
to a son, Kayden. Raven appears to be a great
dad and is in awe of his son, but then
another blow. Raven is caught stealing from his job and
is fired. Coworkers say Janet is so embarrassed that she resigns,
but she doesn't give up on Raven. He would eventually
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plead guilty with five charges of embezzlement, but he's able
to avoid serving time in jail. Raven finds a new
job with a computer company, and the marriage seems to
be on the men. It's the evening of April twenty six,
two thousand and five. Janet is doing the laundry and
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Raven is working in the house.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
We looked at Kiten's sleeping, made sure everything was good
with him, and put her arms around each other, and
you know, said.
Speaker 15 (06:48):
I really love you.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Then Raven says he goes off to play soccer. He
returns home that night at about ten forty five, and
that's when he says, he makes a horrifying discovery.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I'd always go in and give kidd a kiss and
just feel his warm little body in and that's uh,
you know, that's when I.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
Found out that something was.
Speaker 16 (07:27):
I can't understand you.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Something of what lot.
Speaker 14 (07:41):
Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
The marriage of Janet and Raven Avarroa looked rosy at
the start, but only two years later it was beginning
to unravel. Still, nothing could prepare Janet's family for the
horrifying news they were about to receive. It's five o'clock
in the morning when Janet's parents get a phone call
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from Raven.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
He was calling to tell them that Janet was dead
and she had committed suicide.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
She had killed herself with a gun, which we automatically
knew that was not right.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
She wouldn't have done that. No, she would have never
killed herself. Ever, we knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
In fact, police quickly realized that Janet has been murdered
and not with a gun. She'd been stabbed to death,
and autopsy later showed she was pregnant.
Speaker 11 (08:44):
The police knew that it wasn't a suicide, and then
it wasn't a gun. They knew that there was a
knife they were looking for when the Yellow taped that
house and were searching the house, they were looking for
a knife.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Apart, I was mourning the loss of my best friend
and of my wife, and of Caden's mom.
Speaker 15 (09:22):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That in and of itself. It was so much pain
that it was hard to deal with every day.
Speaker 13 (09:32):
Janet Everioa was found inside her fair and drive home
less with.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
What appeared to be a stab wound in her chest.
Speaker 16 (09:38):
Dual Police have not named any suspects, but will only
say her murder was not random. We're looking for anybody
with any information on this case to call us.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Raven knew that he didn't want to raise his young
son on his own. In an interview with a TV
show North Carolina Wanted, he talked about what it's like
for Caden to be without his mother.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And I think it's wonderful that he knows his mom,
he knows her name. I try to share the things
that his mom does that he appreciates. Those two pictures
of her graduating from college. When you know the question
comes to where is mommy, you know she's in heaven
looking down at you. She's playing soccer in heaven. She's
watching you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Just a few weeks after his wife's murder, Raven decides
to take his son and move west to South Lake City,
where he grew up, to live close to his Mormon family.
But North Carolina is not the kind of place where
unsolved murders sit quietly.
Speaker 16 (10:40):
Raven provided cooperation at the beginning of the investigation, but
there have been subsequent requests for interviews that have gone unanswered.
Speaker 13 (10:48):
I kept talking to Raven about you've got to help
solve this case. I mean, personally, my thought is if
somebody murders my wife or a child, or any close
family member of mine, I'm banging on the police store
saying what have you done?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Lately, Raven did nothing.
Speaker 13 (11:01):
Within a week, he left and never came back, with
the exception of sneaking in the town wants to pick
up his furniture.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
And he left. Raven meanwhile, has turned to a new
chapter in his life in the Salt Lake City suburb
of Jordan. He starts working at this bicycle shop, but
his employer says he again is fired or stealing. But then,
two and a half years after the death of his
first wife, Raven meets Vanessa Pond, a single mother whose
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daughter Aria is in the same daycare as Raven's son Kayden.
But Vanessa, according to her father, is definitely not interested
in starting any romance.
Speaker 17 (11:39):
Haister jokingly referred to her as the president of the
Man Haters Club.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
But sometimes when you meet someone, you just know it.
And soon after Vanessa meets Raven Abaroa, She's in love.
Speaker 8 (11:52):
What was it about him that you liked?
Speaker 5 (11:54):
He seems very upfront, very honest and genuine. Found out
that you know, he was a single father, and I'd
really really admired that I'd been a single mom for
five years. I know what it takes to raise a child.
I thought, you know, maybe I'll give him a chance
because he could be a fantastic father, fantastic husband. So
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I finally fell for the nice guy, is what I've thought.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Did he mention his ex wife what.
Speaker 15 (12:27):
Happened to her?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Yes, yes, as we were just starting to date, he
he just mentioned that my wife actually died, and so
that I immediately felt so sorry for him and Kayden
and to take them in and give them all the
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love that they're.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Missing out on.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
Did he say she was murdered?
Speaker 5 (12:53):
He said that there was an intruder and that and
that she was killed, and that he'd found her.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And he'd left it at that, and so did Vanessa,
that is until she started researching Janet's murder on the internet.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Janet that night I stayed up until about four o'clock
in the morning, reading blogs, watching his interviews, reading all
the news stories about it, and going out of.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
My mind.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Thinking what I thought. You know, there's no way, there's
no way. And I watched I remember watching the interview
and I wasn't convinced that he was ascent, that he
was ancent. I felt that in the interview there was
a part where they asked him, you know what he
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saw what he came home to I don't.
Speaker 12 (13:54):
Like talking about what happened to her.
Speaker 17 (13:56):
And it's not because I don't love her.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
It's not because I don't want to find out who.
It's because I have so many good memories with her
that you know, I hate thinking about the bad times.
You know, for me, I just honestly I cannot even
come to relive all those moments again. And you know,
even today, when I've been prepping for weeks to kind
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of talk about it, it's so hard to even want
to say, you know, this is what I saw, because
it's not something I want to see again ever.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
And that's how I learned that she was stacked. So
I went over and I spoke with him, asking the
questions that I had, and he removed and every doubt
from my mind.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Raven may have been able to convince his view girlfriend,
but back in North Carolina, Janet's family and friends had
many theories about what happened to Janet, and they say
all their suspicions pointed toward Raven.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I knew he killed her the morning I found out.
Speaker 17 (15:03):
The exact second, there was no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 13 (15:06):
And my instantaneous nanosecond reaction was, oh my god, Raven
has killed Janet.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
And they wonder if this was a break in, why
was Janet's jewelry left behind?
Speaker 10 (15:16):
Her wedding rings were on the counter right where the
supposed break in happened, where the door was left.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Ajar sitting right there.
Speaker 10 (15:24):
Nothing else was missing except his laptop and the knives.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The knives. As it turns out, Raven was very proud
of his knife collection. Remember that Christmas video While with
Janet in the background, Raven brags about the special knife
he's bought for himself.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Money knife got full Christmas.
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Thank you about it myself.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
My dad would be very proud. I like the click knife.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Janet didn't think much of it at the time when
Raven took out a life insurance policy for each of
them when she became pregnant. After all, parents often buy
policies when they have a child on the way. But
now her family and friends find it suspicious.
Speaker 10 (16:05):
He had taken out a life insurance policy soon after
she got you know, she found out she was pregnant
with Kayden.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
How much was the policy five hundred thousand on her?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Is he capable of doing that? Doing it with the
insurance money? Absolutely, the Abaroa's old neighbor, Tim Dowd, has
pondered and studied every detail of the case.
Speaker 18 (16:24):
Everything points back to Raven, but two thousand miles away
in Utah, Raven's new girlfriend, Vanessa, is convinced this poor
grieving widower needs to be loved.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
And cared for.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
He started talking about me moving in after probably just
a few weeks, and that was very very fast for me,
especially since I had my daughter to think about. And
I told him that I wouldn't be moving in with
anybody if I wasn't at least engaged to them, knowing
that Woven's spend the rest of my life with them.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Vanessa is unaware of the extent of the suspicions of
Janet's family and friends. Who were you worried that this might.
Speaker 15 (17:07):
Be a mistake.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I don't have a question in mind.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
At the screen, We'll be right back. Young mother Janet
Abarroa has been stabbed to death, and her siblings suspect
Janet's husband, Raven, had something to do with the murder. Meanwhile,
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Raven has started a new life out west and fallen
in love again. Can he bury the past or will
it follow him? Nearly three years after the murder of
his first wife, Raven Abarroa asks Vanessa Pond to marry him,
but Vanessa's father, a former police officer, has a CoP's
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hunch and a father's instinct.
Speaker 17 (18:00):
The Christian side of me wants to believe that he's
innocent until proven guilty. The police officer side of me says,
there's there's a there's something wrong with this picture somewhere.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So as concerned parents, they have a candid discussion with
the man their daughter has fallen.
Speaker 15 (18:17):
In love with.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
They asked him if he'd had anything to do with
his wife's death.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
His response was he kind of sidest the question, and
he didn't say yes I did it or no, I
didn't do it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
He said I loved my wife. I loved her so.
Speaker 9 (18:34):
Much, which insinuates that he didn't do it. But he
didn't come right out and say that he didn't.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
And he was in tears, and she went over and
put her arm around him to console him and comfort him.
Speaker 9 (18:48):
She says, no, I know the guy by now, and
I really convinced that.
Speaker 8 (18:52):
He's not guilty of this.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
At the end of it, they still had their reservations,
but after that, Raven asked my dad for my hand
in marriage.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Vanessa and Raven have a beautiful wedding in her parents' backyard.
As they leave for their honeymoon, Vanessa's mom gives her
a kiss and Raven a message, just.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Take good care of my little girl.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
He would.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
But then on one of the nights of their Las
Vegas honeymoon, Vanessa says, Raven tells her something she still
wonders about to this very day.
Speaker 5 (19:40):
And he started talking about Janet and how mad he
was after she died, not how sad, not how heartbroken,
just mad that hohome, just that she was dead. And
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then he cuddled up closer to me and he said,
I promise I'll never hurt you. I didn't know what
to think about that, or how to feel about that.
Speaker 7 (20:26):
It scared me to go.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
When Janet's sisters learned Raven has remarried, they feel the
duty to talk to his new wife, Vanessa, and they
have a dire message.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
We just wanted her to make sure she was aware of.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Things that had been in the news about him, that
she would know what she was getting into, and.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
That we were fearful for her. I was heartbroken. I
did not want to believe at all.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Illness, and she says Raven was beginning to act in
ways she just couldn't understand.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
Within moments, he could switch, She could say the most
horrible things. I was an effing horror a lot, an
effing B word, and that one thing you never call
a woman, that C word. And then moments later, can
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you apologize, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
I was just mad.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
That's just what I say when I'm mad, That's just.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
What I do.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And Vanessa says the abuse became physical.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
He grabbed me from the door and threw me up
against the wall, and then I fell. Later he tried
to convince me that I had tripped. He began to
call my own family and my own friends and my coworkers,
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telling them that I was horribly depressed and bipolar and
that I probably needed to be institutionalized.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
It got really bad.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Vanessa says. She becomes more and more frightened for her
safety and begins making plans to leave Raven, but her
parents say she's trying to hide it from everyone.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
She can put on a really good front for being happy,
and I think that she was pulling every resource she
had within herself to give that illusion of happiness in
her marriage.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
It was the week before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12 (22:55):
I think it was when she came to us and
then told us that gleness of it all and felt
she needed to get out of it.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Finally, the day before Christmas, everything comes to a head.
As they're getting ready to go to Vanessa's parents' house
for dinner Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
He had me backed into the corner.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
And I'm screaming at me, and I'm me Kattan poking
in the chest, just feeling at me. I ended up
with bruises on my chest from him. He started gathering
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his things.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
Are you glad you let him go Christmas Eve?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It wouldn't become worse.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Raven has denied he was ever physically abusive to Vanessa,
but she remains convinced that Raven walked out that night
because he wanted to tell his family and friends that
it was Vanessa who was unstable and suicidal, all part
of a plan, she says, to make it look like
Vanessa might kill herself.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
I think he was in the process of setting it
up with family and friends that I'm suicidal.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Interesting in Jacqueline hides that I lived with.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
His eyes would just change.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
I think it was very scary.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Because you didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's one thing to be abusive, very belly and physically.
You think he's a murderer.
Speaker 16 (24:43):
Yeah, yes, we have a substantial amount of circumstantial evidence
it's but we're looking for for something that we believe
will provide us with enough information to go to a
journey and proved this case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 8 (25:03):
We would obviously like to talk to Raven.
Speaker 16 (25:05):
We have some questions we'd like to ask.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
The only public comment Raven has made regarding his wife's
murder was in that North Carolina Wanted TV interview.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The bottom line is that I wasn't involved with the
death of my wife. That I would do anything in
the world to keep her here with me, and that's just,
you know, that's something that I know, That's something that
Janet knows, and that's something that I think that people
who truly know Janet, truly know me, can understand and
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
But the women who say they knew Janet better than
anyone her sisters remained convinced that Raven was somehow involved
in Janet's murder.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
He hasn't done anything to prove otherwise. He hasn't helped
the police. He hasn't sat down and with the police.
He hasn't like set out a reward help me find
my wife killer.
Speaker 10 (26:00):
And if he didn't do it, he needs to step
up to the place and take the light detect test
and talk to the detectives and cooperates so that a
least they can rule him out and move on.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Five years after Janet's death, Raven Abarroa was extradited to
North Carolina and charged with her murder. While his first
trial ended in a hung jury, in March twenty fourteen,
he was found guilty of voluntary manslaughter after entering an
alfred plea and that means the defendant does not admit guilt,
but does acknowledge that the evidence would probably have resulted
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in a conviction. Abarroa was sentenced to eight to ten
years in prison. Vanessa Pond's marriage to Raven was annulled.
When we return a loving father on the edge.
Speaker 19 (26:49):
One day you go from unfunctioning to I'm not functioning and.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
His children's lives on the line.
Speaker 7 (26:56):
He said he picked out the two biggest and sharpest
kitchen knyes if he could find, and he knew how
well they would cut.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Stay with us. David Cresby loved his children, but even
so a shocking act of violence would change his family forever, and,
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as Jim abby Loaf first reported in two thousand and eight,
it would also test the limits of a wife's faith
and love.
Speaker 20 (27:34):
It was a grand house on a pleasant suburban street.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Is a tree?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Chris moved?
Speaker 11 (27:40):
And yet how are you good?
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Warning?
Speaker 19 (27:45):
Say hi?
Speaker 21 (27:48):
Yes?
Speaker 20 (27:49):
Filled with children laughed, and a pair of adoring parents
yellin Josh or chess.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
What's the house of love?
Speaker 6 (28:00):
Who was a house of love and peace and fun?
Speaker 15 (28:04):
I had the American dream.
Speaker 19 (28:06):
I had a beautiful home with great neighbors and friends.
I was senior vice president of a fortune one hundred
company the time with my kids, that was just wonderful.
Speaker 15 (28:17):
Most of all, my wife is just incredible.
Speaker 20 (28:20):
David and Kim were married two years after his first
wife died of brain cancer, leaving him with two small children,
and their family grew quickly, five Cresby kids in all,
as Kim gave birth to a son, and then four
years later, their Pride and Joy, the final happy addition
to their family, identical twins, Casserah and Cement.
Speaker 15 (28:44):
And Testa Samuel precious to us. They were incredible. They
were a gift. We just were so thrilled to have them.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
He adored them.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
I adored them, our children adored them. They brought so
much joy.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
To all of us.
Speaker 20 (28:59):
The Crespy fly seemed to have everything, including a disturbing
secret about David that threatened to destroy it all.
Speaker 19 (29:08):
One day, you go from unfunctioning to I'm not functioning.
Then your mind lies to you and says, no, this
is not going to end.
Speaker 15 (29:17):
This is all there is.
Speaker 20 (29:20):
David Cresby suffered crippling bouts of depression that began in
his late twenties.
Speaker 6 (29:26):
David is a really intense person, very bright, goes from
A to Z. When we were getting married, I didn't
really know that he could possibly have a severe mental disorder.
He was still sweet, he was still loving, but he
would just be kind of in another world.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I take him to therapy.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
We talked with a therapist about him trying to get
back into the game.
Speaker 20 (29:46):
Getting back into the game at his high stakes job
was not always so easy. David often missed work, but Cresby,
who was a vice president at a major bank, says
his coworkers enabled him, excusing his dark days.
Speaker 19 (30:00):
If you're a senior executive officer, you don't punch a clock,
so you crawl into work at ten o'clock.
Speaker 15 (30:07):
People cover for you.
Speaker 21 (30:09):
So you were successful enough, valuable enough to the company
that they look the other way during those periods.
Speaker 15 (30:15):
Just get better. We know you'll get better, and good intentions.
Speaker 20 (30:20):
At his lowest moments, the disease made Crespy a devout Catholic,
consider committing a mortal.
Speaker 15 (30:25):
Sin that was suicidal.
Speaker 19 (30:28):
I attempted to take my own life from a car
in the garage, running a car in the garage, hung
off a bridge in California.
Speaker 8 (30:35):
How many times do you think you tried to commit suicide?
Speaker 15 (30:39):
About four or five times?
Speaker 8 (30:42):
He promised he wouldn't commit suicide.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
I want you that it's not my favorite. It's not
what I believe, it's not who I am.
Speaker 19 (30:48):
I did promise her that I wouldn't do it, but again,
I was reasoning with an impaired, unstable mind. Isn't something
where people can take that to the bag, can.
Speaker 15 (31:00):
Rely on it.
Speaker 20 (31:03):
That promise did not stop the dark, dangerous thoughts. It
just changed the focus to a new, different target.
Speaker 15 (31:11):
I thought about killing other people.
Speaker 8 (31:13):
Were your thoughts about hurting strangers or your family.
Speaker 15 (31:16):
Members, family members, They're just people that were around me.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Were they detailed thoughts or were they just sort of.
Speaker 19 (31:25):
Random, rational, random crazy thoughts that horrify me?
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And did you tell your therapist about those? Now? Did
you tell your wife about those thoughts? Now? So you
kept those to yourself because I.
Speaker 15 (31:38):
Didn't think they were real.
Speaker 6 (31:43):
He's not able to engage with people. He's being very
anti social. He's saying, I'm going to lose my job,
We're in financial ruin, and I'm sitting there thinking, I
don't think those things are true.
Speaker 20 (31:56):
Kim took her husband to see his psychiatrist, who, she says,
told Cresby he was quote catastrophizing. He recommended antidepressants, but
Cresby complained that the paxel he had previously been prescribed
caused him to gain too much weight, so he says
his doctor switched him to another antidepressant, a move that
the Crespies claim would prove disastrous.
Speaker 22 (32:19):
When people are started on medication, monitoring is essential because
their mood may become quite changeable as the medication kicks in.
Speaker 20 (32:28):
Clinical psychiatrist Maria Okendo is that a dangerous.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Period of time.
Speaker 22 (32:32):
Anytime you introduce new medication, it's a little bit dangerous.
Speaker 20 (32:36):
How dangerous would become devastatingly clear. Just one week after
starting his new medication, and only one day after visiting
his therapist, David Cresby's catastrophic thoughts became frighteningly real.
Speaker 19 (32:50):
It's hard for me and anyone who grows up in
the society where we think you're the master of your
destiny and you control your own thoughts both there's a
part of the mind where you go this is nice character.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
So this is not the Dave Cresby you knew and loved.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
This isn't the David Cresby you know today. This is
the Dave Cresby of that moment you heard, by medicorship,
by a miss diagnosis, by no monitoring, by psychosis, and
testing Sam in the wrong place.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Stay with me, Shank Executive. David Cresby was on the edge.
He was having dark thoughts and had attempted suicide. So far,
he hadn't harmed himself or others, but that was about
to change. With the chilling conclusion of our story Jim Abla.
Speaker 20 (33:51):
In January two thousand and six, David Cresby was again
suffering about of deep depression, unable to work. The happy
life he and his wife, Kim had biled over the
last ten years was about to tragically crumble. David was
at home with his wife and their five year old twins.
Kim ran out to get her hair done and the
girls asked him to play. For David Cresby, the scene
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had been set.
Speaker 15 (34:18):
We were playing a game.
Speaker 19 (34:19):
We were playing Hide and Seek, and it just came
to me that there is no feature. There is nothing,
and this was all set up as a sign. Kim
left to get her hair done, and that's the way
it's all aligned for them to die.
Speaker 20 (34:36):
While the kids were hiding around the house immersed and
Hide and Seek, David Cresby took knives from the kitchen cabin.
Speaker 15 (34:44):
I stabbed them, but I never saw them.
Speaker 19 (34:47):
I held them down and made sure that they were
not facing me.
Speaker 20 (34:54):
After murdering his daughters, Crespy matter of factly changed his
clothes and grabbed his our keys in order, he says
to drive off and commit suicide.
Speaker 19 (35:05):
And then I remembered that I couldn't kill myself because
I promised him I wouldn't.
Speaker 20 (35:12):
That's when David said he heard a voice coming from
the sprinklers on his front lawn.
Speaker 15 (35:18):
Lea was saying, you have to call someone. You have
to call nine one one Place Department. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
I just killed my true daughters. You get what?
Speaker 15 (35:31):
I just killed my two daughters, he said.
Speaker 7 (35:34):
He picked out the two biggest and sharpest kitchen knives
he could find, and he knew how well they would cut.
Speaker 10 (35:41):
Are they breathing or anything?
Speaker 15 (35:42):
Now, sir judge, what did you do to him?
Speaker 6 (35:45):
He stabbed him?
Speaker 4 (35:46):
How many times did you stab him?
Speaker 15 (35:48):
Got enough?
Speaker 7 (35:49):
Sam was found downstairs in the kitchen. She had eighteen
stab wounds. One of the stab wounds the knife was
still in still in her chest. Officers ran upstairs and
found tests in the master bathroom and she had fourteen
stab wounds.
Speaker 19 (36:05):
For how how long that this happen?
Speaker 6 (36:09):
But there still might be some time, We still might
be able to help them though their lads.
Speaker 7 (36:12):
For guest, I have seen a lot of horrible things,
but there is something about the murder of a child.
Speaker 15 (36:22):
And to see the murder of two.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
Children that are identical twins, it's like mirror images of murder.
Speaker 20 (36:30):
Crespy was arrested, taken to jail, and placed on a
suicide watch. Prison psychologist examined him and concluded that he
suffered from a serious mental illness, not simple depression, but
the much more dangerous bipolar disorder sometimes known as manic depressions.
Speaker 22 (36:48):
There aren't situations in which the person can have both
symptoms of depression and symptoms of mania at the same time.
Those are very, very dangerous because the person all and
had the energy of mania and the despondency of depression,
and that can be a fatal combination.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
David Cresby, who was charged with stabbing the girls today.
Speaker 20 (37:10):
And at first it was just local newss a tragic
story of a father taking the life of his children.
It became a national whisper campaign when Kim Cresby did
what you could never imagine a mother doing.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Girl the battle of mental illness raged and the most
innocent members of our family are.
Speaker 19 (37:29):
Lost to this life.
Speaker 20 (37:31):
She continued their marriage and love affair in weekly visits
to prison, blaming everyone but him. Kim Cresby forgave the
husband who killed her kids.
Speaker 6 (37:42):
See it, how can I forgive him? It's grace, it's
but it's also a choice. I don't have any regrets
I'm married my soulmate. I'm still married to my soulmate,
and Dave needs me, So there's lots of reasons to
get up in the morning.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
And what God asked for us?
Speaker 8 (38:01):
You know, are you amazed that she could forgive you?
What did she tell you?
Speaker 19 (38:06):
I can't remember the exact words, but I just remember
the love, and I just remember her sorrow for them
and her sorrow for me, and.
Speaker 15 (38:22):
I remember just being awestruck by that.
Speaker 8 (38:32):
Why can't you just turn your back on Dave?
Speaker 15 (38:35):
Why would I?
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Because he killed our girls. I think he's the biggest
victim here, Sam Tester gone. But they're in heaven, and
I believe heaven is so glorious that I wouldn't want
them back for one minute for them they're fine or
not Dave, especially not.
Speaker 20 (38:54):
Kim Crespy blames the death of her children and David's predicament.
I'm psychiatrists then therapist, who she says, missed a critical diagnosis,
finding in his dark moods depression and not the more
serious bipolar symptoms.
Speaker 22 (39:09):
One of the things that makes it difficult to diagnose
bipolar disorder is that usually when the person is euphoric,
you can imagine that they're not that interested in treatment
because they feel good, and they present for treatment usually
when they are depressed, when they feel terrible, and it
often takes a lot of uncovering to figure out that
it's a bipolar disorder.
Speaker 20 (39:30):
According to a study conducted in two thousand and one,
it takes patients an average of ten years and four
different psychiatrists to arrive at a bipolar diagnosis. David Cresby says,
that's what happened in his.
Speaker 21 (39:43):
Case, And at what point did you start to think
or did others start to think that this was more
than depression, that this may be manic depression or bipolar.
Speaker 15 (39:53):
It wasn't until I came to prison.
Speaker 19 (39:55):
I mean, the best, the best psychiatric care I've gotten
in my life has been in this prison.
Speaker 20 (40:01):
Crespy believes that success blinds his big house in the suburbs,
the big job in the skyscraper, perfect family, no drug problems,
all full doctors and therapists who may have overlooked his
bipolar symptoms.
Speaker 19 (40:15):
When you're in a twelve hundred dollars Hickey Freeman suit
and you tell them what you do for a living,
that to some of them could be intimidating.
Speaker 20 (40:28):
Crespy has traded in forever his three piece suit for
a prison issued uniform, and the antidepressants have been replaced
by the more powerful lithium for his bipolar disorder.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
Are the dark thoughts gone?
Speaker 15 (40:40):
Oh yeah, totally.
Speaker 19 (40:42):
I haven't been depressed since I came to prison because
I've been correctly medicated.
Speaker 15 (40:47):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
People that say that he's fine now and he's fixed.
They all thought he was fine. Then nobody saw this company.
The only person that saw it, I mean is David Cresby.
Speaker 20 (41:01):
Prosecutor Marshall Goodenow believes that circumstances would have been very
different if Cresby had been honest with his psychiatrist from
the beginning.
Speaker 7 (41:10):
He never told them what he wanted to do to
his family, but then wants to say the system has
failed him because he wasn't properly diagnosed. He alone could
have stopped what he did to his family if he
just told somebody what he was thinking or feeling.
Speaker 20 (41:29):
Cresby avoided a trial by pleading guilty to two counts
of first degree murder. The former bank vice president is
living his life sentence without the possibility of parole in
an eight x twelve prison cell in North Carolina, where
he keeps pictures of his slain twin daughters on his wall.
Speaker 15 (41:48):
I loved him dearly and I miss him, and my
life and the lives of all the people in love
will never be the.
Speaker 20 (41:57):
Same except for Kim's Saturday visits. David Crespy is virtually alone,
a man blessed by the forgiveness of his family, but
cursed by the ironic clarity his new medicine gives him,
allowing him to be forever haunted by those images that
line his.
Speaker 15 (42:15):
Self to the victim him.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
And how can his wife
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