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September 27, 2025 30 mins

BODY CAM: ‘I am going to defund you’: Smithfield city councilman resigns after police confrontation


On Aug. 3, Smithfield police officers were called to a traffic accident involving Smithfield city councilman Ted Stokes’s son and a parked vehicle.


Two officers went to Stokes’s home to gather an accident report after the owner of the parked vehicle called police due to the extent of the damage.


Footage shows Stokes confronting officers about why two of them are at his home, and he begins telling them that he will “defund” them.


After the interaction with the police, the body camera video of the interaction was reported by the Herald Journal in mid-September.

On Sept. 20, the Smithfield City Council announced that Stokes was resigning from his position on the council.

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(00:28):
What's up? Which car was it?
Well, no. You tell me what's up.
You guys are in my house. OK.
I just told you I'm here to investigate an accident.
I understand your son's been in an accident and that he was me.
I'm doing that right now. Please.
That's what you're supposed to do when you respond as an
officer. Just tell people why you're
here. So he's asking you which car was
he was involved? Why are you here?

(00:48):
He's asking you which car is involved.
I want to know why there's two officers responding to such a
simple thing. We pay a lot of money for you
guys in the city, and I decide whether the budget's good or
not. And so I think you should go
patrol Main Street, do your job,and I'll talk to him and I'll
deal with this. OK.
Go go patrol. I'm.
Not dangerous. Talk to him.
Look, guys. We pay so much money for this.

(01:10):
OK, look, look, I just. You just hang out for a second
go. Patrol Main Street, make
yourself useful. Come on guys, go patrol Main
Street. Make yourself useful.
Let's not waste taxpayer dollars.
So. Tell me what's going on.
Come down here, I've got a family event going on.
OK, that's fair. I'm willing to do that.
I want. To know why you're even here.
Because they're I am obligated to invest.

(01:31):
There's a car that's wrecked down there and you have already
talked to the guy and said that your son had run into his car.
And I gave him my insurance and I gave him everything.
And he and I work. We already called and made an
insurance report. State Farm's handling
everything. OK.
And it's also over $1500 so I need to.

(01:53):
Get that it's going to be his His car's totalled Yeah.
So he called you that's what you.
Yeah. That's all you needed to say
hey. Yes, he called me yeah.
See see this is the problem and and I'm your guys's lack of
training blows my mind It blows my mind.
Hey, Ted. I'm here.
There was an accident. The person who's.
Not step up on. Me.
No. I'm telling no, no, no, no, no,
no, no. I'm telling you how you're

(02:15):
supposed to do your job because you obviously don't know.
Look, listen, hey, Ted, the Pierce, the person that your
son, your son hit earlier has asked that I make a police
report. I'm here to do that.
Instead, you show up like you'rean FBI agent doing some big
secret thing, like who trained you?
I want to know who trained you. Can I get your son's name?
How? Old are you?
Can I get your son's name? How?

(02:36):
Old are you? OK.
How long have you been? How long how long have you been
going? How long have you been impede in
an investigation? No.
Are you going? Are you are?
Do you have a warrant to be here?
I'm on public property right now.
I'll cooperate with you, but you, I'm trying.

(02:56):
No, no, no. You guys have got to learn how
to do your job right. We are botching so many things
in the city because of you guys,and you know that.
You're aware of everything and I'm aware of everything.
Can I know your son's name? You can step onto my property
and I will talk to you if you will be reasonable.
Let's start the conversation over.
Let's do it. Please.

(03:18):
OK. Hi, my name is Tim Stokes.
I am here because there was a complaint about your vehicle or
your son hitting another vehicleand the vehicle looks like it's
totalled. And the person who made the
complaint was the person who owned the car?
Yes. OK, cool.
We already talked to him. I'm happy to help you out.
OK. Yeah, but we need your.

(03:44):
Two responding officers for a non moving vehicle incident and.
What's your son's day? His driver's license.
Yeah, sure. Do we need?

(04:08):
Will you go get it? Court?
I don't have it. Does he need to come out here?
No, we'll see what happens. OK.
Can you tell me which vehicle itwas?
Yeah. It was that 100 Sonata right
there, OK. So I do have his or I guess it's
your insurance information. Does the car belong to you?
Yes, OK. I stayed there for half an hour.

(04:31):
I waited for them to get home. When I.
Gave them their I don't have a problem with you being here.
I have a problem with the approach to responding officers
to this and and we, we have we what?
We probably have another extra on Main Street, right?
Now, So what's this one right here?

(04:58):
It's unbelievable. I can't believe that you guys

(05:20):
are wasting. Yeah, I can't believe you have
him sitting there wasting tax dollars.
Give me one good reason why he'sthere wasting tax dollars.
I love that you want me to answer your questions, but you
won't answer mine. He doesn't.
He doesn't dispute. It's dispute fault like it's his
fault. OK.

(06:13):
So is your son OK? Hey, Justin.
Ted Stokes. Yeah, I've got, I've got 2
police officers in my house. This is the most unbelievable
thing I've ever seen. Took her hit a non moving car on
a road we gave the. Shash.
Bravo, Toff. Can I get?
That 1027 by number. Everything was good.
I think he called to make a report just to make it fine.
Two officers show up at my house, walk up to my.

(06:34):
Front, 247-1184. 17 tell me anything other than we're here
to do an investigation and the other officer is still sitting
here as back up like this is Justin, I'm sorry but.
Sorry, 1099. This can't happen that like this
other officer needs to leave andstop making his.
Needs, yes, correct. Finally give a, a report to
this, but he like, he wouldn't even tell me like he, it wasn't

(06:58):
like, hey Ted, we're here. It's it's officer Hanson.
I'm, I'm blown away by this Justin, I promise you I will do
everything in my power as a CityCouncil member to make sure
these guys are defunded. There will be 5 police officers
in this town because this is unbelievable that I have a this
guy needs a backup officer to make sure I don't hurt him at my
house for, for for for my son hitting a, a car non moving.

(07:19):
I waited 1/2 an hour at the guy's house to give him his his
insurance policy. I'm fine with him making a
police report. I'm blown away by the fact that
right in the middle of my Sundaydinner, my daughter's birthday
party with five other or five other cars here for guests.
I've got 40 people at my house for a birthday party and I've
got two. I've got two officers at my
house and this guy's Can I talk to you?
Who's the other officer? McComb.

(07:40):
McComb, I've got Hanson and Macomb, but this is
unbelievable. Like get on Main Street the
other officer and make go go patrol.
Instead. They're making sure City
Councilman Stokes doesn't do something like I don't know if
this is retaliatory or what because I didn't vote like it
better not I'm telling you, Justin, like this is this is

(08:01):
open. This is the last straw.
I've I've got 2 the two officersout in front of my house with
four people in my house celebrating the birthday party
and he couldn't even tell me whyhe was here other than he was to
investigate a car accident that he acted like we had done a hit
and run for like that. That's how he approached me.
He didn't say, hey Ted, guess what?
Like some guy wants to make a report.
We're here to do it. We understand you gave him your

(08:21):
insurance information. Thanks for doing that.
But we're obligated to make a I'm fine with that.
You should have seen this guy approach.
I said I'll send you the ring photo.
You won't be blown away by this.I I don't know what to say,
Justin. But but that's, this is the last
straw. I know I've expressed my
complaints, but this is it. This is the last straw.

(08:42):
They're both here because he's afraid I'm going to jump in.
I, I, I, I, I approached him to talk to me.
He says you, you need to back upoff of me.
Back up off me. I'm like, I'm standing here
talking to you with a sharpie inmy hand.
You think I'm going to hurt you?These guys are so untrained,
Justin. It blows my mind.
I am done. Like I don't know if there's a
way to amend, amend the budget now, but I want to amend it and

(09:05):
I'm going to talk. I'm going to call the other
council members tonight. I'm going to tell them exactly
what happened. And we are amending it like we
are going to five officers. This is it.
We need two officers on duty in the morning.
We need two officers on duty in the afternoon.
We need one officer on duty at night.
This is the most unbelievable thing I have ever seen.
Tell me when you can talk in themorning.

(09:30):
Go enjoy your Sabbath. I need to talk to you first
thing in the morning. This is this unbelievable.
All right, well, let's talk about it in the morning.
I, I'm sorry, Justin, like I know like Justin, this is
culminating like the I've got other stories I could tell you

(09:51):
last week, an officer, an officer pulled someone over or
in front of just just just in front of the, the intersection
of, of Spring Creek Fitness or what's it called Summit Creek
Fitness. The guy pulled over like right
past the intersection. The guy was an idiot, right?
He pulled over like 5 P past theintersection.
So our officer parked right in the middle of the intersection

(10:12):
and no one could make a left hand turn or a right hand turn
or go straight through a Main Street intersection for like 30
minutes while this guy did his stop.
What would you have done, Justin, if you were the officer
in that situation? Tell me what you would have
done. You wouldn't, you wouldn't.
You would have got out of the car.
You would have gone up and said,hey, can you pull 20 feet
forward so I can pull in behind you?

(10:33):
But no, no, no, we parked. The officer parked smack dab in
the middle of the intersection and sat there and did his 20
minute stop. And I have pictures of it.
I have pictures. I have videos.
Like Justin, we cannot fund thisbecause it's not worth our
money. These guys have no idea what
they're doing. Oh, I'll take a picture.

(10:54):
You see both their trucks pulledup right here to handle this
issue. I am, I am done like this is the
last straw. It is the last straw.
I am done with these guys. I, I, I'm embarrassed.
I'm flat out embarrassed. I get a ticket 3 weeks ago for
rolling through a stop sign at 7:00 AM and, and the officer

(11:15):
says sorry I had to do it. Turns out I find out him and him
and him and him and the chief are getting these other high
fives the next Monday. Justin, I've got three officers
in the force who tell me everything I know, everything
that's going on. Like I am done with this, like
it's it's done. Well, I I want to.

(11:41):
I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you tomorrow
morning. We there, there's changes have
to happen or it's going to be problems.
Thanks. Bye.
OK, so does your son need medical?
Attention. No, he, he, I think he heard he
was bleeding his nose pretty bad.
We handled it, but like, you know, we're competent parents.
If he needed medical attention, we would take him.
But you think he might have broken.
I don't know. We're we're going to go check it

(12:02):
out tomorrow and see like we would we would we would handle
that right. Tell me why you think I couldn't
handle my son's medical attention?
Think he can? Don't.
Isn't that my right? Isn't that my it's not a right.
It's my legal obligation. But it's your right, it's
doubled it. It's my right and my legal
obligation, so. So yeah.
Can I talk to him? What?
What do you need to talk to him just to find?
Out. What I can tell you what

(12:22):
happened, he had city, he had, he had steak youth council.
He's on a youth council for the church.
OK. He pulled out of the steak
center. They gave them muffins,
chocolate muffins. You can see him on the front
seat. They spilled.
He set the muffin on the seat and he was going to eat it when
he got home because he's fastingand we were going to eat dinner
at 5:00. And he set it down and the
muffin fell down onto the carpet.

(12:42):
You can see where the the frosting like got on the carpet.
He bent down to pick it up, which he shouldn't have done,
and he set it back up on the seat.
When he looked up, he'd kind of veered off this guy.
Yeah, I have a sister that yearsand years ago did the almost the
exact same thing. Bend over, grabbed the steering
wheel, went across the road. Luckily he went this way instead

(13:03):
of oncoming. Traffic, though no one was in
the car. He's OK as a bloody nose.
We'll look at it tomorrow and make sure it's not broken.
Do you know if he was wearing a seat belt?
He was. Do you know how fast he was
going? I don't think I asked him, he
said. Dad, I pulled out of the the the
thing and I had let off the gas because I'm going downhill.
Anyways, he turns left at that intersection.

(13:23):
The car got pushed about 15 feet, 10 to 15 feet.
He turns left right there. So he wouldn't be going too fast
because he knows he's turning left right there.
He should have turned left, but he bent over to get the muffin
and. Gotcha.
Get it? OK, at this point I just need to

(13:44):
fill out the the witness state or not the witness statement but
the accident exchange form. I mean it that way both of you
have the exact same information so that you can contact your
insurance company. I already did, you can.
Contact. Us.
I gave him our insurance. I hope he did too.
I don't have a problem with you making a report.
It's two officers and it's the approach.

(14:04):
Blows my mind man. OK, I can we just.
I don't feel like I Yeah, No, you.
Need to you need to you need to you need to handle that better.
You say, hey, I heard your son was in an accident.
Someone asked me to come make a report and I would say, oh, was
it the guy who got hit? Instead, you come up to me like
you're doing an FBI and get I'm.Not getting into that 'cause I
tried to be. Friendly.
You need to. I tried to be friendly better.

(14:27):
Trying to be friendly with you the entire time I tried to
strike up a conversation. Why are there two officers here?
Justin, There's a vehicle. Justin's blown away.
There is a vehicle. That no, no, no, I say.
And that that's what you said too.
I'm not, I'm not saying you. Said hey, there's a vehicle
that's been that's been totalledon a on a roadside as if we hit
and run it. That's how you approached me.

(14:48):
I until I get here, I don't knowthe full circumstance.
I don't. The person who called didn't say
I'm going. To start working No, no, no, no
paperwork, no no so that I don'twaste more time.
Let's finish this conversation. No, hey, OK, let's finish this.
I'm going to. I'm going to do paperwork.
Stop, stop. I'm going to do the paperwork

(15:10):
for. The conversation that you're up,
if you know you what? OK, You said listen, you said I
didn't know the whole situation.What?
What report did you receive? What do you mean?
What were the words that the dispatch person told you?
It's all on written records. So no, no, you tell me.
That's all I'm going to do. Why won't you just tell me?
This is what I hate about you guys.

(15:31):
The lack of transparency, lack of transparency, all the bull
crap. Like it's done.
Like I'm sorry you guys dug yourown grave.
It's unbelievable. Hey, Justin wants that other
officer on Main Street. OK, he'll.
Send him. OK.

(15:53):
Zero 55 hash suspicious by 20 members. 55.
Contact canal between 1:00 and She's the manager at Wendy's on
Main Street in the north. If they have a male employee
that they are worried about the other employees they need.

(16:20):
Danforth. Yeah.

(18:32):
Yeah. And.

(21:36):
Hello. Yeah, yeah, I.
Know that's fair. OK, OK.

(22:15):
I'll get. You on the regular.
OK, thanks. Yeah, South USA 99125PEE silver.

(23:29):
Yeah, 91 I have motorcycle watch101 that two cars over a double
yellow. Yeah, So the one along 20% and

(24:21):
for I'm just losing it now it's all discounts a month or two
lasting westbound on one along speed 100.

(24:41):
Something to do. But it's a motorcycle, it's a
cruiser. I cannot make out a model.

(25:11):
Yeah, something to do corrections.
Negative setting in the heart. That's something to where I see

(26:55):
the motorcycle changes Uptown onone along.
Then for 100 Bill, he sleeps kind of on one along 107990
home. More.

(28:25):
Delve 82 sitting in the blue Cruiser and for our kind of
makeup model by Westbound on oneof them I lost ahead of them.

(29:04):
OK, you got a second you're. Good coming up.
I'm I'm OK man. Thank you though.
So this is the accident exchangeform that has your, the case
number. It also has both of your
insurance information that's on there.
Some of it looks like I haven't put it in but it's redacted.
I understand so that I don't need his.

(29:26):
Yeah, yeah, OK. So what you'll need to do like
you've. It sounds like you've already
done it. Contact your insurance company.
That's what they'd be looking for.
Cool. Do you have any questions?
No. OK.
Do you want to fill out a witness statement or anything?
Or does your son? No, we're good.
It's his fault we didn't. That's why we waited for 30
minutes for them to get home. Appreciate it to him.

(29:46):
That's why we took care of it. All right.
I expected someone might show upto just to make a police report
because sometimes the insuranceswant that.
I just expected it. I didn't expect two officers.
I didn't expect that approach. Yeah, I had a second officer
following me up here. It's unfortunate so.
Anyway, have a better day. See ya.

(30:13):
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