May 14, 2025 • 58 mins
The Moment She Realized She Killed Her Newborn
This is a heartbreaking story about the consequences of neglect and the importance of support for young mothers. Bianca, a 19-year-old, faced a tragic situation that would change her life forever. Her mother, Nicole, left for work, expecting to take Bianca to the hospital the next day, as she was nearing the end of her pregnancy. But when Nicole returned home, she discovered a devastating scene in Bianca’s room. Nicole immediately called emergency services, who rushed to the scene and tried to save the newborn. Unfortunately, despite their efforts, the baby did not survive.
Authorities noted Bianca’s history of emotional struggles, and when questioned, she claimed she didn’t remember the events due to a medical episode during childbirth. The situation became even more complex when investigators learned about Bianca's strained family relationships and past challenges, including her history with domestic issues and substance use. A year later, law enforcement returned with a warrant, seeking more answers about what truly happened that night.
Bianca was taken into custody and faced serious charges, sparking further investigation into her mental health, family dynamics, and the circumstances surrounding the tragedy. This case highlights the critical role that a supportive environment plays in the lives of young mothers, particularly those facing emotional and mental health challenges. It serves as a reminder of the importance of family guidance, access to healthcare, and mental health resources for expecting mothers.
As the investigation unfolds, it sheds light on the broader issues of teenage pregnancy, mental health, and the need for a strong support system. While the outcome of this case is deeply tragic, it also opens up important conversations about how such situations can be prevented in the future.
infant death, newborn murder, postpartum crisis, maternal infanticide, tragic motherhood, true crime, emotional breakdown, mental health and crime, shocking confession, mother kills baby, newborn tragedy, crime of desperation, psychological trauma, fatal decision, real crime story, true crime podcast, infant homicide, maternal mental illness, grief and guilt, dark motherhood
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This is a heartbreaking story about the consequences of neglect and the importance of support for young mothers. Bianca, a 19-year-old, faced a tragic situation that would change her life forever. Her mother, Nicole, left for work, expecting to take Bianca to the hospital the next day, as she was nearing the end of her pregnancy. But when Nicole returned home, she discovered a devastating scene in Bianca’s room. Nicole immediately called emergency services, who rushed to the scene and tried to save the newborn. Unfortunately, despite their efforts, the baby did not survive.
Authorities noted Bianca’s history of emotional struggles, and when questioned, she claimed she didn’t remember the events due to a medical episode during childbirth. The situation became even more complex when investigators learned about Bianca's strained family relationships and past challenges, including her history with domestic issues and substance use. A year later, law enforcement returned with a warrant, seeking more answers about what truly happened that night.
Bianca was taken into custody and faced serious charges, sparking further investigation into her mental health, family dynamics, and the circumstances surrounding the tragedy. This case highlights the critical role that a supportive environment plays in the lives of young mothers, particularly those facing emotional and mental health challenges. It serves as a reminder of the importance of family guidance, access to healthcare, and mental health resources for expecting mothers.
As the investigation unfolds, it sheds light on the broader issues of teenage pregnancy, mental health, and the need for a strong support system. While the outcome of this case is deeply tragic, it also opens up important conversations about how such situations can be prevented in the future.
infant death, newborn murder, postpartum crisis, maternal infanticide, tragic motherhood, true crime, emotional breakdown, mental health and crime, shocking confession, mother kills baby, newborn tragedy, crime of desperation, psychological trauma, fatal decision, real crime story, true crime podcast, infant homicide, maternal mental illness, grief and guilt, dark motherhood
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/best-true-crime-documentaries--6015157/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This teenage mother's negligence led to the death of her baby,
and she remained completely unbothered until this happened. Nicole, whose
nineteen year old daughter Bianca was pregnant, left for work,
thinking she'd be taking her to the hospital the next day,
as Bianca had finished her nine month term and was
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about to go into labor. But when Nicole got home
and headed upstairs to her daughter's room, she froze in horror.
There was blood everywhere, and a newborn baby was lying
next to the placenta, not moving at all. Bianca was
sitting on the bed staring straight at her. That's when
Nicole grabbed her phone and immediately called nine one one.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I know now, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
How old is your daughter?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Suple terms? Okay, at the baby? Where is the baby?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I took the child? Is the baby black stuff in
a blanket?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm gonna tell you what to do. Okay, if that
I got to sleep?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What will someone need?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Where's your daughter with them? Listen?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What's your name?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What did the hours?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
So she didn't just have the baby?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't. I really just want okay ask her, But
if you have the baby to me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want, I said hours ago?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
You never did she?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
If she didn't call anyone?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Where?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Where is the baby in the house?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I was?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Did she was? She's sleeping? I don't sleeping?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (01:58):
Is the baby warming?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Touch film?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Is that your daughter's first dad?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And she was alone at the house? Were coming, le pocket?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Did you know she was pregnant?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
There coming though you're also on.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The way, and if she was supposed to be induced tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Para medics arrived and began performing CPR on the baby,
who had turned blue. The officers had previous encounters with
the girl and knew she had mental and emotional issues.
When they asked her what had happened, she told them
she didn't remember because she had experienced a seizure during delivery.
She also mentioned that she delivered the baby while wearing
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shorts and only removed them after the baby was born.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
The baby was pronounced dead. A year later.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The officers returned with a warrant for the girl, who
is now living with her boyfriend. There were still many
questions to be answered.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I help you.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
My name is Brian with the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
Yes, sir, I have some paperwork to drop off the
Bianca if you could just ask her to come to
the door, please, Yes, sir, I can't she upstairs?
Speaker 8 (03:20):
Downstairs, she's upstair. Would you like to go up and
get her yourself?
Speaker 9 (03:23):
So she's got a warrant for her Just so you know,
I was not aware of that.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
She let me just.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Explain it to you, okay. So here's.
Speaker 9 (03:32):
And they filed and a rest warman with the State
of Thirday's office and the joe As signed it. So
I'm trying to just do.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
This peacefully and easy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
Let me who else is inside?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
My son is upstairs, but but let me go in
and let him know because he will get very upset.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
You won't have any trouble with him.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We'll manage that.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I will ask her to come down here. Where are
you taking her?
Speaker 9 (03:52):
She's going to the Pumpage County Mangine.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Bianca had not been talking to her husband since she
was arrested for domestic violence in Texas and had been
living with her boyfriend ever since. Her husband served in
the military and had been deployed outside the United States.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Stairs.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Yes, positive, I just spoke with her about thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Okay, If she doesn't want to listen, or he doesn't
want to listen. She doesn't want to come down, and
I just need you to walk back down the stairs, yes, sir,
and come out for me.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
But I know that she's not dressed, So can you
give me at least ten minutes so that she can
get mad.
Speaker 9 (04:25):
We're going to need to see her and then she
can get dressed, Yes, sir, we can allow her to
get dressed. Yes, well, I need her to come down immediately, Yes, sir,
put on some kind of quick clothing and then we'll
go from there. But I need to see her because
I don't want to escalate this.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I understand, yes, sir, but she's eighteen years old, she
got fourteenth in mine.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I'll put her in the batch and your son and her, yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The following footage has been blurred by the police department,
but we'll explain what is happening here. The officer is
trying to explain the situation to her and her boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Dress all right, I we need to see her real
quick and then we'll let her get dressed.
Speaker 9 (05:05):
Well, baby, you have a rest of work.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
It's regarding the incident that.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The detect is already talking about.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
So that's what the situation.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
If you have an arrest work, you have to come with.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Us the night.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You're gonna see a judge in the morning.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
It's detective there goes you have an arrest, want.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's a manslaughter warm play?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Why charge?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The officer then goes on to explain that she'll be
seeing a judge the following morning and we'll have the
option to bond out.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
So the situation is this, Okay, you have an arrest, wark,
you have to see a judge in the morning, you
speak to the judge, and there's going to be an
opportunity for a bond and potentially bond out. Okay, but
for tonight, and actually for this to happen at this
time of night, this is a good time of night
for this that happened, because now you're the opposite of
the jail all the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And to treat you like a lady.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I'm not here to treat you like a criminal.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But I just asked that you followed her assus.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
What's what we asked to do.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I need you to stay down here, okay.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
No weapons on you or anything like that which goes
on your head.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Turnaround.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Any weapons upstairs ahead, walk up the stairs.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
Just a pair of sweat pants and a long sleeve
T shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How about this?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
This is good, it's perfect. Nice Christopher, can you bring
me a pair of socks?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You're good.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
It's just walked on the street.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Come out here, take it right, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Bianca was taken to jail, where the detective tried to
understand what had happened. We know that this is a
long interview, but slowly everything will come to light and
we'll understand why Bianca did what she did.
Speaker 10 (06:37):
It's little while while, so it won't be for long.
It's cold here. I know I love it outside today,
but you have the rectmins on that day's thady questions?
Do you understand?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yes, any state any make must be really involuntarily given.
Do you understand? So where are you working at? Answer?
Where are you landing at? Same place? Cheetaha? Like on
and off? Alright, you make a good money at least
my boy Tambers. Don't let me work. Oh K, that's Chris. Yes,
he was like he worked out that.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
What does he do? He does not work right now?
He was doing construction. He's on the ankle. Person, Oh,
what did he get throw for her. What. Yeah, yeah,
he was trying to protect me and the guy hit
me and then spin on me. They were fighting initially.
Speaker 11 (07:28):
And I broke it up like an idiot, right, and
the guy spin on me and pushed me to the floor.
And Christopher has a really bad temper and he turned around,
picked up his pocket knife and stabbed a kid.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Off for spitting on even pushing. You can't do that exactly,
did you explain that? I was like freaking out, like
way over the.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Top, right.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I was like, a you could have walked away punched
him maybe, but that was like a little extra. Yeah,
it was like I'd fight, wouldn't do that? Is he
gonna be alright? Though? Says it tis a money okay,
a home mom, you've been there quite a while then, jeers. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The night this incident took place, the detective conducted interviews
with several people, including Bianca, her mom, and the personnel
present at the scene. These audios revealed quite a lot
about what was going on back then.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Moon and her door was open, and I thought she
was in a room, and I noticed the the blinds
were down, like her blinds are broken down, and I
was pissed, and I wasn't focusing on the scene in
front of me until I noticed the baby and as
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through what was in the bed and she said a baby?
I said, who's baby? She said mine?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Say she's on the phone with her. I don't really
talk to her because she's not a family of Christopher's.
Do you recording me here?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
They do have recording systems in the in the building
about Yeah, he's what's going on?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Well, she's a go she's a protective over me, and
he hasn't been nice to me as in the past.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You have the same problem with your husband.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Uh, I don't have anybody down here, and they all
land they don't I know.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I want you to be stuck
in something like that, cause you're not stuck. There's a
there's always a way. Will mom takes you back? No,
she won't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Even getting her A force all with my aunt for
a while and then I left to come back here.
My aunt's like seventy five years old. My goodness, I
love her to death. I do, like, just where does
she live? The villages?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Wow, you're roll up there? Yeah, it's pretty far. That's
pretty boring for a young girl. There have been two months.
I'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, I think everything closes by nine, right.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, they have a square where they all like dance
and stuff. Yes, I can feel what she kind of
like lames me for everything stuff. So I just.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
So if she's serious.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And I had her start to call nine one one,
but her sister her phone was gonna die, so i'd
called from the house phone, okay, And I just couldn't
start in CPR, coulding.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It's okay, it's not the same when it's in your house, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I've never done CPR and a baby, And and they
came and they started to work on the baby. Yeah,
I thought they knew the baby was dead.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
He did have come.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Experience.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And then.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And then they came and they they they took the baby.
They were working on the baby in the van and
in the truck, and then they lived shortly and there
was another trick that came and took the uncle.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh okay, but I would like to kind of since
it's been a while and things are, you're you're fresh,
and you seem to be really together, which is great. Really, Yes,
this is the it it appears. I know you're up
set right, but you appear to be a lot stronger
than you were.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Really, I don't remember at all. May not be a
trying blazed it out no like that. Like when I
came and talked to you before that. Oh those times I.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Remember, you know, cause I remember you were saying with
Chris and then you came home. Tell me, tell me
how it happened. What was going on back then then
you came home? What do you mean, Well, you were
pregnant and you were staying with Chris. Oh the day before, yeah,
when I got into a hard Okay, so there, Yeah,
So tell me what was going on, like the entire thinger. Yeah, yeah,
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cause cause I've gotten mid some pieces, right, because like
you said, things were you know, and I I I
I'm looking at you now. I don't mind. It's not
about but the good cause it smells you actually, even
though it's bad for you. But first and cigarettes.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It is. But what I you know, it's the first.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Time we talked.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
The second time we talked.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
To you, you were not how you appear now and
then so I want you to kind of have a
conversation and I'm just kind of understand. So yeah, for
the beginning, tell me or start with that day the
day before when you were at Chris's and then you weren't.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
So I was living there most of my pregnancy. I
wasn't in the beginning. I was, you know, obviously with
my mom, and then my mom when I fight like
hounds and dogs. So I left. W was in with
him that day, so or not that day that night,
I have very little memory of. I remember hanging out
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with him, and I remember waking up the next day.
He told me the next day, you had sixties years
last night, and you sleep three of them. I was
here for three of them. He went to the hospital.
Apparently he kicked a bottle and cut his foot over
and went to the hospital, and his mother told him
that I had another three. Seezuers, sorry, Sieges. I remember
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waking up and I even remember who he was, and
I knew he was a friend of mine before and
then now we know we our boyfriend and girlfriend. But
I had no memory, and so I was talking to
him and he was upset that I didn't remember a lot,
and he kept asking me questions over and over, and
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I was like, I'm sick of this. I'm gonna go home.
And I remember driving home knocking on my mom's door,
in which I never really do, and she kind of
just stared at me, you know, just like cause it's
happened a lot before, and she just looked at me
and was like, go to your room. So I went
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to my room and I remember just sitting there, but
it seems like hours. Oh sorry, put through this. I
don't want I understand. And I remember when they hang
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down on my bed and my phone kept going off.
This is before, and I believe Chris had called me.
He did. He did call me sorry, and he was
like are you okay? And I just for some reason
couldn't fathom what he was saying. And I was like, yeah,
I'm fine, what do you mean? And he's like okay,
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and he was like do you remember me? And I
was like, I'm sorry, you know, we're friends. I got
my mom's house. He was like okay, hung up the
phone and you My friends were calling me because Christopher
called my f my girlfriends and told them that I
had just s I know, seizures and he didn't they
knew that was pregnant and you're blowing me and I
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just wouldn't answering, and I remember getting cramp I think
really sharp. Yeah, I remembering.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It was pretty clear that Bianca didn't have a very
smooth sailing relationship with her mother, which is why she
was living at her boyfriend's. That unfortunate night made their
relationship even worse, As she told the detective and a
phone call a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
My friend's house, my mom kind of abandoned me and
kicked me out the house, throw me out the house,
and no, that that's cop, that that's complicated. My family's
a mess. And then my mom's moving away to Land
during two weeks and we haven't really talked at all.
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We kind of just, yeah, she blames me for what happened,
So what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
What does he say?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, when it first happened, originally she was she didn't
talk to me for a week because she was mad
because she said that I could have done something. And
then when the other day we actually talked on the phone,
we were arguing she was and I had brought up
because I was very upset. It was very emotional. I
was yelling at her and I was like, how could
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you abandon me? You know when I need you right now?
During this time period, I just lost my child and
she's kind of making the situation about herself. And she
was like, I'm going to say something about your kid
that I'm going to regret later. She was like, and
then she called me like a terrible mom or what did?
Speaker 8 (16:46):
What did she say?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
She wouldn't say it. I was like to say it.
I was like, to say whatever you need to say
about my kid. She was like, no, I'm going to
regret it later. And I was like, I'm going to
murder you know if I know you're a cop. You
did not hear that, sir?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh my god, Oh I ain't no family, family issues
to be pretty contemptious.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yes, yes, sorry, very safe, you stand.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yes, yes for the yes.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Okay, you remember holing is adilical? Ho out? I interested
to know what to do for some reason. Sorry, so
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I remember playing some delical corner out of me. I
remember here in karate Still be sure you remember what
take him? Like? How does wear your bobsers? I remember
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holy hap next to me and I don't know if
I fell asleep. Oh, just shock. I remember where you're
just sitting there. How do you been looking at I
remember getting up, I see I remember getting up, getting
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in the shower. My mother called me while I was
in the shower. She faced me, a regular call me,
and she asked me if she was gonna take me
to the C section the next day because I was
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supposed to be induced because I broke up my fellness
in a car accident a couple of years ago, so
I everyone thought I couldn't give birth. She was on
the phone with me, and I honestly funny, you even
remember betting on the phone with her. I don't recod
was calling them? Who do you remember her calling? And
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do you just remember what you got talking about. I
remember her saying, am I going to bring you tomorrow
to be induced? I don't you remember responding. I remember
her just saying, okay, I'll be home soon. When she
came home, she asked me if I wanted to go
to eat, and I remember she kept asking me over
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and over and just kept getting mad because I kept
saying yes. And then I just was just sitting there
and she eventually got first rated left the house. I
remember her coming home and screaming in my face, what's
going on? And I was like, I do no. I
remember her calling the ambulance and then her handing me
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the phone, which literally asked her, what do I say? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I did what to say? I'll be on the phone?
Did they get one when you're on the side, I
don't know. She in the the phone and I was
shying to talk and I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
And then I remember her screaming from asking her she
even had to perform beyond and she kept telling them,
I s I can't do it. I remember sitting on
the couch and watching them hook him up to her
and don't walk him to the car. We were at
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the homes at all.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I remember when leaving again we Linco was christ And
then the day you went to your mom's house was
a day before.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
He was born, cause he were there overnight.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right, Usually there's a family member present with a pregnant
woman at all times when she's about to deliver in
a couple of days, But in this case, Beyonca's mom
was pretty detached from her. Even Beyonca was very unsure
about having the baby. She had initially thought of aborting
him and later planned to put him up for adoption.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Is there any medical medical.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
There was?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Like once or twice she started spotting and she freaked out.
Like January, maybe she came here okay, because they told
and there was I think one other time she was
freaked out like she hadn't felt the baby move.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, when was that?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
I don't to be honest, I don't remember before the
spotting or after the spotting.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
After she ate something to try to induce the baby
moving and the baby started move.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Oh good, okay? Is And how was her prenatal care?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
She started prenatal care in the second trimester because at
first she was going to terminate. Okay, but she's been going.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I do remember you told me about doing some time.
What were you doing around this time? Hm? I can't
say it, don't how old? Okay? Do media murder? Why
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do you feel like a murderer? It's like st figure
like don't probably don't be called in the ambulance. Was
something happening that you need to call the englance for?
I just kid it? Kay? Or you need to mean?
Was that long enough that I don't think I was mean? Okay?
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So what what were you doing for alis? Spoking, need
m anything else? I don't say an acts? Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And when did you take them in xanax?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
What was it? What?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What did you say the night before that night before
he was born. I was sorry, A couple of nights before.
And when did you smoke with marijuana that I don't remember?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Was it that? Was it that Moms? No?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Sure, I wouldn't never d she wouldn't murder. Did you
take any any of the drugs at Moms while you
were there? You know, have never been shooks in her house?
Do you take any kind of oxyes at the time?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yes? What were you what kind of oxes? Where the
oxy cota on icy cotton?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I wornphroon cotton likexicotten And when when would.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
You have taken that? And had I don't know? I
was aud and on and all? Were you prescribed or
just taking it? No? I was prescribed prescribe her them
from my car accident? And then what okay? So when
(24:05):
you think the last time was that you took it
before he was born? A couple of daskay? And did
you mix that with the x anax's? Okay?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And he said you didn't do the marijuana a moms either, Alright.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Her complex relationship with her parents and with other people
could be one of the reasons why she resorted to
as a way to escape it all. As she mentioned,
even her boyfriend had not treated her well in the past.
Something must have triggered her to deliver the baby herself.
We'll know more about this as the interview progresses.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Walk me through. So that night your home at Moms,
what time did you go to bed? It was all night?
How come has always been insomnia? Insomniac during the day, yes, sir? Sorry, okay.
So when you came to Moms, did you sleep during
the day while she was at work?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I don't remember one to see kry. I remember like
staring at my stealing for hours. I think I was
up the entire time. But I remember when I got
to the hospital, I slept for like three years. Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So that night, over night before he was born, you
were laying on your.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Bed, Yes, sir, it was on my bed in the
entire time. Okay. And when you said you punched the wall,
when did you punch the wall while that was giving birth?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Oh? Okay? So what what time did that start? I
don't mind. It wasn't looking now from do you even
day so daytime? Yes, sir? And so how do you
know it's daytime? It was the late hot time. Oh okay,
that makes sense. That's a good way to know alright.
So was it just you were an house? Yes, sir, okay,
(25:59):
so you were bad. Here's a wall and this is
your bad, right, and you got a window here and
a window here, yes alright? So which way this is you?
Here's your head? Which way were you weighing? Jos? Window
that's behind me? So put any sanity 's on loud love.
So if this is your head, your head is here
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against this window. Cause the door, the door that you
were gonna see it, right, you're sir okay, So your
head is here, and you got a dresser here, don't
you a big long one yes on the door? Tell
my left, yeah, and then he yeah, it's a time, well,
not when you were there. While you're at the hospital.
How bad is that pain that those cramps? Was it
really bad on the scale of one of the ten?
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Where were we at ten?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Ten?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And did they happen for a long time or a
short time? Did you said afternoon? So was it okay?
Short time? A short time? Okay? And what did you
do when you felt those cramps? Just laid there okay?
And when did you punch the wall? Cause the wall
didn't do anything to you. When did you punch the wall?
When I was pushing. Okay, Well, did you start pushing?
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I don't know what it was on, No, I know,
but when you said that you felt the cramps, you
said it wasn't for a long time. So how long
they from the time you started feeling with the pain
of the crams? Did you start pushing? I remember I.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Got a short pain and then I got up, rent
to the bathroom, pee, went back to the room, laid there.
I remember it kind of felt like I had to
like poof, so like sitting there, like you know, like
you can't have to poop out of that different thing.
And I was just sitting there like trying like to
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like hold it in. I remember punching the wall and
getting berg started pushing at that point. Okay, So you
were holding in and holding and all of a sudden
you punched the wall and start pushing. And how long
did the pushing cake? Oh, ten minutes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And so then once the pu was there pain after
you pushed or was it was it there was? And
how long did that pain last after you pushed her?
And how long? Ok girl, I'm sorry, that's okay. What
were you wearing? Boxers? Maybe a T shirt like this?
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I think a red boxers red boxers. Were they like
boy shorts? Oh yeah, the boy short boxers?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Okay? And so when he was born, how did he
come out?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Did he come out feet first, head first, arms first.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Or something else? Fings first? Why? Who was a head
head first? Head first? Okay? So I remember grabbing where
did you grab maybe his shoulders? Okay? Grabbed him kind
of happen okay? And was he still in your board
sorts when he brought it next to you? So how
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did you get the board sorts off? I didn't. I
just kept them on ice moved 'em over. Yes, I
thought you had pulled them down, okay, because it was
a lot of foods coming out and a ground him
and I put 'em on the side of me. And
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I remember grabbing on the local chord in the sack,
like a bunch of the wood came out after I
grew the sack. What color was that? Bluids? Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The detective was also trying to understand if Bianca was
intoxicated while delivering the baby because of her behavior during
the incident.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
And then this morning he went to work, he is
cirt and you said, you got home and you you
noticed the blinds, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And what was she doing when you noticed the blinds?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
She was in my bed.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
She was laying in your bed, in my bed?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
And what was she sleeping?
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Was she?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
A wait?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
She was awake?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And what was she doing?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
She just laying in my pitch? Why had called her earlier? Show?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So at some point you took your leg out of
the Shortska do you do you? You know what I'm saying?
Cause you cause you walked to the shower without him, right,
he said, you took a shower. Yeah, so you didn't
have him on your side then? So how did how
did the shorts come off of you? I remember taking
him off and he was laying off the pitch by himself.
(30:31):
He could and h what what kind of cry was
he having at that point? Come like when you hear
on TV when they first come out.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And so when you took the took the shorts off
of your leg and put him on the bed by himself,
he was still crying.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Oh no, sorry? Oh? What was then he gave her?
If he wasn't home making And when I went to
seek a shower, when did he stop going? Maybe five
minutes to ten minutes after I gave birth, I believe, okay,
And was it still next to you or was he
what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Was he still next to your leg? Or was he
next to you? Oh? When I caught up? No, when
you stopped crying? Who was next to me? On on
your leg? Though?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
When do you stop crying? Stay?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, Chris, I was still lagged up. When did you
first see his face? Still feeling? You never saw his
face on the bed. It's dark in my room, really dark, okay.
I used to keep sun blocker sh sh sho d
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window curtains. I was really old. He was a dark marrow.
Did you pull him down at some point? I think
one blind? Yes, when I was giving first. Is that
when he punched him cot?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Then? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Okay, so that makes sense though, Okay, so I hate
to keep doing next to you, but kind of I
wasn't there, so I got to figure it out. So
you got your boy shorts on? They're stalling both legs.
I think I took this leg out and moved it
over to this leg, only you had one on. How
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come he didn't take both off? How did you get
that one off without getting hirled off?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Sorry? I think I just took it off this leg
and pulled it back up. Oh my home. Okay, was
he in my boy shirts?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I I from what I understanding, he was in your
boy shorts when fire Recu came, when you when Firescuy came.
So it was already afternoon, and it took before before
he started getting a cram.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
And then.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I took a took a little bit, taken care of birth.
He said, about ten minutes of pain, and then he
pushed and then he was out. Yes, sir, so it
could be anywhere from the afternoon to four five o'clock
when my mom came home. But before that he took
a shower. Yes, so you said, So I think my
mom called you it was about four cause I I
(33:08):
got yeah, she was on the way home. Yeah, so
she called you on four. So between noon and four
this happened. How long did did it take him to
stop crying? No, he was just sitting when there was
me said about five to ten minutes.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Is that right? I'm sir?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And was the whole time? Was he's on your side?
Or did you end up? I think I remember last
time we spoke, you said, he pick He moved him
up to lay next to you and pulled a planket
over him. I think that's correct. It to your Yes,
when I went to go take a shower, yes, okay,
oh so so let's go. So he's he's next to
in the leg, yes, sure, tell me. Get me to
the point where we're going to take a shower. I
(33:46):
and then it's a The time frame might not work
for you, but tell me how that he's laying here,
he's crying.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Then what happens? He's crying and don't remember him laying
next to me and it was cold, and so I
checked him out of my boxers and I put it
next to me, and for some reason, I didn't want
to live, and I remember just looking at him.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
He was This is what the police officer saw when
he entered her room that day.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Did she say why she thought the baby was dead?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Uh?
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Just because it's a new born baby in a bed
by itself, you know, with the placenta still attached to it.
I guess it wasn't breathing when she saw it. You know,
all that together, I think she had some type of
medical She said she worked at a assisted living.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Or rehab around here, so I remember what she was wearing.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
She had like scrubs on.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I think she said she was a nurse.
When you asked if the baby was alive, did she
tell you anything?
Speaker 12 (34:50):
She kind of said, I don't know, I remember, I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I don't remember. Okay, And how did she appear.
Speaker 12 (34:55):
To even getting even she was asking her for a
driver's license, you know she was, I don't know, I
don't know. The mom actually got a driver relations for
me for the from the daughter.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Out of her purse. Okay, who cut the cord? You
know who he did? Okay?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Who's the rescue truck?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Okay, the rescue did.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I pulled him next to me, and then I went
to get up to take a shower, and it was cold,
and he felt cold. I pulled the blanket up to
his chin, and I remember feeling like the the little
around me and stuff was, you know, getting cold. So
I went up and walked and took a shower and
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walk home. I'm sorry, it's so makes sense. It does.
It told me about it. It does. You're okay, so
you go in and take the shower.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Before that, when you pulled the the blanket up to
his chin, and you said you did you you took
the boxers off of you and then moved him next
to you, Yes, sir? And was he still crying?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, sir? What was it? Was he doing anything? No, sir?
Okay did you see his was he moving at all? Okay?
Now okay. There I was on a couch sitting there
or in my room. I think I was the only
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couch when she came home, cause I heard her car. Hello,
I went to the couch. Where were you when you went? Before?
You went to the couch and the room laying down
and that was like it was kind of like a robot,
like I knew my mom was din move to do
cause I think I knew that my head was going on,
but I couldn't comprehend, like I wasn't even talking, and
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I I knew she's my mom, didn't know what to do.
I remember just looking at her, like help me.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Did you say that? Or you just looked at her?
Just looked at her? Did you ever go into her room?
And she ran in there and started screaming at me
to call the ambulance and I was like I can't,
and she you know, handing me her phone and I
was like I don't know how to talk and she
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ended up grabbing it from me and talking to him.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Ever there quick. That's what happened. When they got there.
There was a lady officer trying to talk to me.
It was and it was like getting I couldn't really
talk and was he could you hear him breathing? No?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I couldn't hand breathe, so it wasn't make any always
to breathe like like you rye breathing ay, always one right.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
No, he wasn't making anyone okay. He wasn't responding to
any of the people who were looking to adult him.
I just I knew further along into my bregnance. Yet
I couldn't do it. Couldn't it work? I couldn't give
'em up? Cause why didn't some responding to those people?
Why starts in my room? She couldn't do it? And
(38:06):
so what so you were thinking you were gonna keep it?
How was that gonna play out? Who was my house?
How would I would give my life?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The only thing Bianca had to say on the day
she delivered her baby and was brought to the hospital
was that she didn't know what had happened, which raised
even more questions.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I don't know how long.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Would be be breck.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
H what's that.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
In the world? Were you scheduled for delivery anytime soon?
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (38:54):
I don't know. You don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
How long have you known't he was gonna be a boy?
You don't know that either. Did you have any names
picked out? Mom said you were thinking about areas?
Speaker 6 (39:07):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (39:08):
One said you were thinking about adoption? Is that true?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Your mom told me that what Zack was around him?
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
M Do you know what that is?
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You have?
Speaker 13 (39:24):
You took the shower? I think there you were on
Instagram for a little bit. Yeah, I'm more an instagram
a mom, just aimlessly rolling. Did you message anybody while
you were on Instagram afterwards? I don't believe. So maybe
I don't know. So what do you think caused him
to stop crying? Not cutting his abilically? So this is
(39:48):
the m report. It talks about his development. He was
well developed, and the findings are what's called traumatic SI. Yeah,
and what that means is is that he basically couldn't breathe,
and so we have to figure out why he couldn't breathe?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Good.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah, Now, maybe he died because I didn't cut the cord, no,
or was it touching your your body? But you I
don't know. I felt a part of him touching me,
right right. I don't know the specifically that was his head.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Or not, but I know he was touching why cause
when I read the report, it talks about there's a
mark from the shorts along his body, kay, and it
it's the word is called potikia full of dots, so
it's it's kind of bruising. And it says scattered petikia
involved the post here scalped neck, shoulders, and upper body,
(40:58):
as well as along the uh the line just below
the artaculary folds.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
And so that's indicative of kind of pressure, right, And
that's kind of why.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
That's also why I ask about if you if you
place anything on his face, whether it be purpose or accidentally,
you know, to keep him from breathing, because any pressure
on his face with a pillow or or a blanket,
you know, they're tiny little creatures and then they can't
push that away or anything like.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
That, so you give it, blank give it. I've got up. Yeah,
what it was up to his chin and wasn't he
was laying on his back at that point, I don't remember, okay, yeah, good,
there's a right here for a little while, okay. And
then I remember grabbing him and pulling him upwards towards me.
(41:54):
And it was after I Pulladelph the the order in
the sack, okay, and were both legs still in the
shorts when he pulled him up. I believe he saw that. No,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Okay, well, but but he was on the shorts as
well when he pulled him up. Yes, okay, So how
did you what did you use to pull him up?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Hands?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Feet, knight heads? No, no, his hands, feet and neck?
Gad where did you know your hands were pulled him up.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
His hand, his shoulders, his h arms and pulled him up. Okay?
Did you wanna have ever grab something? Really quick?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
She began breaking down as the detective proceeded with his questions,
to the point that he had to comfort her.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
So instead of trying to figure this out, like describe it,
this is what we normally use. Do you mind just
doing that? I made sure it wasn't as a little girl, so.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
You can't do you wanna howk first? See did you
(43:44):
get your frona water a little bit? If you want oh,
I don't show so from from the beginning. So he's
born in your shorts. And where's he end up when
(44:04):
first seas might be down to here in the middle
after I gave first and he came out and he
head first, okay, And so I picked him on and I, uh,
hear my shorts and I took my shorts off. This
(44:27):
is like okay, and I I just didn't care what
the morning. I just love to cry this se.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
I.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
I pulled him on boes tear okay, here his feasts
things like that, okay, yeah, and he's up against your
body crying at that point, he's crying here, Oh yes, okay, sweet, okay,
(44:56):
excuse me, I don't it's okay. The hear hold, I
don't guess, alright. And then what happened? How long did
you lay like that while? Yeah? A while longer? Huh older? Yeah, alright,
(45:28):
so you lay there for a while, yes, how And
then what happened after you lay there for a while
live on my phone there didn't the rope, but just
not being able to talk and just kind of mold
like a robot.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
Meanwhile, her boyfriend called her again to check up on her.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
Oh not really, I'm talking to agitate you. Are you
ever mean to be m angry towards you? M I
don't know what to feet like. Someone just punched me
in the freaking chest. He used the dough from the
(46:23):
grab you someone just being are any good eats? I'm
gonna go? Do you just nick CAUTI? Mo? You wanna
stay on the him? I say, mom, no, so I
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think his mom something? Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
He taketed me any answer. So he grabs a random foot.
Do you have a caffeine? Let's see where you Did
you have any sodas or coffees or anything or stimulants?
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Right, honestly, I drink I don't bag kind of drink coffee?
Do not? Really?
Speaker 4 (47:09):
And then it was positive for opioids. It was positive
for opioids. Oxy morphone?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
What's that oxy more phone? Yeah, like a perposet. It
could be a perposet. So they don't really tell you.
They just say, yet you have an oxymorphone at 'em?
So would that is that something you take as a percocets?
And when there was a lot of times for the perk,
was it that?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Mom? No, I wouldn't break drunks in her house and
after women give birth, name you stuff to kick their children.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
The detective did try to ask her if she had
killed the baby herself, as the clues were hinting towards
had a depression.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
No, no, no, I'm not a postpart 'em. It's called
something like when I can women get the birth of
it when they were throwing them in the dumpster or something.
Mm you mean something like that like purposely killing my son? No,
just cause my language now, I wouldn't do that, kay
(48:15):
uh I. I don't think you would do that. But
in your state of mind, did you do that? No?
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Sure, no, cause that's the the underlying question, right right,
you know, with the way you react, reacted to us
and and kind of.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
Didn't wanna talk to us, And really what when I
didn't wanna talk and gave that impression?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
No necessari, I'm j I'm just saying the question could
be raised, was that?
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Why? Right?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I mean, the way I've treated you? Do you think
I I came across that way? I'm just but I
have to ask a tough question. No, no, no, right?
And I it nice and I'm looking at this and
I will tell you that I don't know that the
shorts could do by itself.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I don't believe the shorts did it by itself. I
think there was something else. And it could be in
your state of mind of being afraid to keep him
or put him up and being confused. Or was it
an accident where you rolled over? Was it an accident
where you play something? Those are the things we gotta
figure out together, you know what I mean? There's what
they call cause of death is phyxia, and then the
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manner of death is homicide?
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Right what?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And then the way it's written is because there was
no action taken, it's considered homicide. It could be that
because then the not taking action had how do we
call do you ever reported that? That's not what homicide means.
Homicide is the overall death of another person, death of
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a of another group. But we have to understand what
happens that it's important. I gotta get a female officer
will take you back there, cause there's no I don't
were the bat was there about when?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Up front? Were you with or anything? No? I don't,
I'm not where about anything. Were there about him up front?
I don't know. I was like here was I I'm
not usually in.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
This Slowly it was becoming clearer that even if Bianca
had not killed the baby herself, the results of her behavior.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
Did you know obviously something him suck again? Yeah, I
mean you want me to give you his answer? Well,
you were the only I think it is. Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I mean, if you were there, what do you where
do you when I say this is he he sucked again?
And I wanna know what you think happened, cause you
were there, based on what you know, based on.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
What you felt. Honestly say it for me playing the
blanket over him to more than I think him being
in my boxers cause they were, you know, small on me.
But the way he was next to me, you know,
literally right next to me could have been the pumpink.
(51:09):
W When did you put the blanket off? Well, when
I would to give up to take a shower, and
he'd already started crying by that kids, So he would
have been crying the whole time, is what you were
saying when he was alive.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
I mean, sometimes they couldn't fall asleep, or you know
babies do fall asleep too, cause they could, you know,
they wear themselves out. But so I don't know, I
wasn't you know, but it was a box hours. Was
he moving when you took him him put him next
to you? Did he just crying? What he was doing?
Did he feel kind of limp or together or how
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you know you were moving him around? How did he feel?
What did some big like red flows and the blake
give him? I remember you're like, I don't know were lighting?
So when did humans ripples blake? Did he stop crying
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the legs between your legs before you moved in? So
he didn't really cry next to you? When did you know?
You did.
Speaker 6 (52:19):
Know that you're telling anything of this when you think you're.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Back, did you and you put the blanket over him?
Speaker 6 (52:30):
No? I can't birth the blanket over usually olders wrapped
up in something like it? Cool? Okay, So he was
crying when he came out? Yeah? Sure? And then when
did he stop crying before I had picked a little?
(52:51):
Do you remember when you were still get out drink
giving birth? I sat there, brought a lot of 'em.
It's just couldn't us it did. Uh was a coloborand
a got just give birth to my son.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Right, so we're both lakes tole your swords at that
time yes, and that their very fuzzy blanket was over top.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Yeah, bock serious okay?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
And how long did he He cried for about ten
minutes while he was down there.
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
And so then what happened next, This unfortunate day was
going to haunt her for the rest of her life.
Speaker 6 (53:33):
And goodness to me, that make him the way you
told me? But he wouldn't cry anymore. That's sick, HM.
That's why he killed him the blanco.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Did you know that he was not breathing when you
moved him on your hip? And is that aways poking?
It's like, but it was cut off. What what do
you mean a part of his habits? Don't in the
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box chairs? Okay, So then miss the prisons.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Maybe they just lay Oh that's what it's lay down, Okay,
good taking time, don't guess Look at me, You're not
a monster. I can see it any place. You're not. Kay.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Just want another truth, I know, I just want another truths.
Speaker 6 (55:01):
HM. I lifted the blanket up like well, it was
towards my chest and I lifted it up, and I
remember opening my legs okay, just cause she cut out
the water. And I remember I feeling that dougal cording it.
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It was all spinny. There was polly mm sah, just
poked down. I remember, looking just like a bold pretty
much and put the blanket back down too. Have degressive mud.
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So have you even seen him yet? Cause you just
got that out with the blanket back. And he was
crying while he was down there. Yes, the same kind
of cry we talked about. Okay, did you feel like
when you would say your legs? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Did you you did you say you took your leg
out or did you leave it in?
Speaker 6 (56:10):
Oh? Yeah? Does it took place leg? And I kicked
this one in and think conto my shorts off? Took
'em all the way off? Yes, okay? And you pulled
them down to them and it might be a grabbed
you and pull 'em next to me? Okay? And he
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was was he?
Speaker 4 (56:31):
Where were your shorts? And then when mom and mommy, kay,
did you what did you tell her about what what happened?
When I was in the hospital. She went in talk
to me, why not? What does she think happened? She
excuse me, you're killing you? What did she say she
ain't happen? Or say it just that's what you feel like?
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She thinks, how about talk? Can you was in the hospital,
she talk my stepmother to take care of me. She
couldn't do it anymore. And why would you think you
would kill your child? Did you know that if you
cared in there that you would not be able to Breathe?
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Did she killed her? Something like? Uh? Could you su feedem?
Did you do those things to uh keep me having
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to make a choice? Anything else? Lo time?
Speaker 6 (57:48):
And you promise everything that was to incorrect? Okay?
Speaker 1 (57:52):
This case does shed light on the fact that the
environment for teenagers matters a lot during their growing years.
Had Bianca been guided by her parents in her life decisions,
maybe the outcome would have been different. She had also
been consuming of all kinds while pregnant, and only she
knows what happened that day and whether the death of
the baby was deliberate. Subsequently, she was charged with aggravated
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manslaughter of a child and child neglect causing great bodily harm.
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This teenage mother's negligence led to the death of her baby,
and she remained completely unbothered until this happened. Nicole, whose
nineteen year old daughter Bianca was pregnant, left for work,
thinking she'd be taking her to the hospital the next day,
as Bianca had finished her nine month term and was
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about to go into labor. But when Nicole got home
and headed upstairs to her daughter's room, she froze in horror.
There was blood everywhere, and a newborn baby was lying
next to the placenta, not moving at all. Bianca was
sitting on the bed staring straight at her. That's when
Nicole grabbed her phone and immediately called nine one one.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I know now, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
How old is your daughter?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Suple terms? Okay, at the baby? Where is the baby?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Now?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I took the child? Is the baby black stuff in
a blanket?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm gonna tell you what to do. Okay, if that
I got to sleep?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What will someone need?
Speaker 5 (01:16):
So?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Where's your daughter with them? Listen?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
What's your name?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
What did the hours?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:29):
So she didn't just have the baby?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I don't. I really just want okay ask her, But
if you have the baby to me.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want, I said hours ago?
Speaker 7 (01:44):
You never did she?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
If she didn't call anyone?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Where?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Where is the baby in the house?
Speaker 6 (01:52):
I was?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Did she was? She's sleeping? I don't sleeping?
Speaker 6 (01:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (01:58):
Is the baby warming?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Touch film?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Is that your daughter's first dad?
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And she was alone at the house? Were coming, le pocket?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Did you know she was pregnant?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
There coming though you're also on.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
The way, and if she was supposed to be induced tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Para medics arrived and began performing CPR on the baby,
who had turned blue. The officers had previous encounters with
the girl and knew she had mental and emotional issues.
When they asked her what had happened, she told them
she didn't remember because she had experienced a seizure during delivery.
She also mentioned that she delivered the baby while wearing
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shorts and only removed them after the baby was born.
Speaker 8 (02:56):
The baby was pronounced dead. A year later.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
The officers returned with a warrant for the girl, who
is now living with her boyfriend. There were still many
questions to be answered.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I help you.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
My name is Brian with the Sheriff's office.
Speaker 9 (03:12):
Yes, sir, I have some paperwork to drop off the
Bianca if you could just ask her to come to
the door, please, Yes, sir, I can't she upstairs?
Speaker 8 (03:20):
Downstairs, she's upstair. Would you like to go up and
get her yourself?
Speaker 9 (03:23):
So she's got a warrant for her Just so you know,
I was not aware of that.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
She let me just.
Speaker 8 (03:29):
Explain it to you, okay. So here's.
Speaker 9 (03:32):
And they filed and a rest warman with the State
of Thirday's office and the joe As signed it. So
I'm trying to just do.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
This peacefully and easy.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
I understand.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
Let me who else is inside?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
My son is upstairs, but but let me go in
and let him know because he will get very upset.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
You won't have any trouble with him.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
We'll manage that.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
I will ask her to come down here. Where are
you taking her?
Speaker 9 (03:52):
She's going to the Pumpage County Mangine.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Bianca had not been talking to her husband since she
was arrested for domestic violence in Texas and had been
living with her boyfriend ever since. Her husband served in
the military and had been deployed outside the United States.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
Stairs.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Yes, positive, I just spoke with her about thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 9 (04:12):
Okay, If she doesn't want to listen, or he doesn't
want to listen. She doesn't want to come down, and
I just need you to walk back down the stairs, yes, sir,
and come out for me.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
But I know that she's not dressed, So can you
give me at least ten minutes so that she can
get mad.
Speaker 9 (04:25):
We're going to need to see her and then she
can get dressed, Yes, sir, we can allow her to
get dressed. Yes, well, I need her to come down immediately, Yes, sir,
put on some kind of quick clothing and then we'll
go from there. But I need to see her because
I don't want to escalate this.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I understand, yes, sir, but she's eighteen years old, she
got fourteenth in mine.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I'll put her in the batch and your son and her, yes, sir, Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The following footage has been blurred by the police department,
but we'll explain what is happening here. The officer is
trying to explain the situation to her and her boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Dress all right, I we need to see her real
quick and then we'll let her get dressed.
Speaker 9 (05:05):
Well, baby, you have a rest of work.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Okay.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
It's regarding the incident that.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
The detect is already talking about.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
So that's what the situation.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
If you have an arrest work, you have to come with.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Us the night.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You're gonna see a judge in the morning.
Speaker 9 (05:20):
It's detective there goes you have an arrest, want.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's a manslaughter warm play?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Why charge?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
The officer then goes on to explain that she'll be
seeing a judge the following morning and we'll have the
option to bond out.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
So the situation is this, Okay, you have an arrest, wark,
you have to see a judge in the morning, you
speak to the judge, and there's going to be an
opportunity for a bond and potentially bond out. Okay, but
for tonight, and actually for this to happen at this
time of night, this is a good time of night
for this that happened, because now you're the opposite of
the jail all the morning.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
And to treat you like a lady.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I'm not here to treat you like a criminal.
Speaker 7 (05:50):
But I just asked that you followed her assus.
Speaker 8 (05:52):
What's what we asked to do.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
I need you to stay down here, okay.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
No weapons on you or anything like that which goes
on your head.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Turnaround.
Speaker 8 (06:01):
Any weapons upstairs ahead, walk up the stairs.
Speaker 9 (06:03):
Just a pair of sweat pants and a long sleeve
T shirt.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How about this?
Speaker 6 (06:08):
This is good, it's perfect. Nice Christopher, can you bring
me a pair of socks?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
You're good.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
It's just walked on the street.
Speaker 7 (06:18):
Come out here, take it right, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Bianca was taken to jail, where the detective tried to
understand what had happened. We know that this is a
long interview, but slowly everything will come to light and
we'll understand why Bianca did what she did.
Speaker 10 (06:37):
It's little while while, so it won't be for long.
It's cold here. I know I love it outside today,
but you have the rectmins on that day's thady questions?
Do you understand?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yes, any state any make must be really involuntarily given.
Do you understand? So where are you working at? Answer?
Where are you landing at? Same place? Cheetaha? Like on
and off? Alright, you make a good money at least
my boy Tambers. Don't let me work. Oh K, that's Chris. Yes,
he was like he worked out that.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
What does he do? He does not work right now?
He was doing construction. He's on the ankle. Person, Oh,
what did he get throw for her. What. Yeah, yeah,
he was trying to protect me and the guy hit
me and then spin on me. They were fighting initially.
Speaker 11 (07:28):
And I broke it up like an idiot, right, and
the guy spin on me and pushed me to the floor.
And Christopher has a really bad temper and he turned around,
picked up his pocket knife and stabbed a kid.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Off for spitting on even pushing. You can't do that exactly,
did you explain that? I was like freaking out, like
way over the.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Top, right.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
I was like, a you could have walked away punched
him maybe, but that was like a little extra. Yeah,
it was like I'd fight, wouldn't do that? Is he
gonna be alright? Though? Says it tis a money okay,
a home mom, you've been there quite a while then, jeers. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The night this incident took place, the detective conducted interviews
with several people, including Bianca, her mom, and the personnel
present at the scene. These audios revealed quite a lot
about what was going on back then.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Moon and her door was open, and I thought she
was in a room, and I noticed the the blinds
were down, like her blinds are broken down, and I
was pissed, and I wasn't focusing on the scene in
front of me until I noticed the baby and as
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through what was in the bed and she said a baby?
I said, who's baby? She said mine?
Speaker 6 (09:00):
Say she's on the phone with her. I don't really
talk to her because she's not a family of Christopher's.
Do you recording me here?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
They do have recording systems in the in the building
about Yeah, he's what's going on?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Well, she's a go she's a protective over me, and
he hasn't been nice to me as in the past.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
You have the same problem with your husband.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Uh, I don't have anybody down here, and they all
land they don't I know.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I want you to be stuck
in something like that, cause you're not stuck. There's a
there's always a way. Will mom takes you back? No,
she won't.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Even getting her A force all with my aunt for
a while and then I left to come back here.
My aunt's like seventy five years old. My goodness, I
love her to death. I do, like, just where does
she live? The villages?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Wow, you're roll up there? Yeah, it's pretty far. That's
pretty boring for a young girl. There have been two months.
I'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, I think everything closes by nine, right.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, they have a square where they all like dance
and stuff. Yes, I can feel what she kind of
like lames me for everything stuff. So I just.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
So if she's serious.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And I had her start to call nine one one,
but her sister her phone was gonna die, so i'd
called from the house phone, okay, And I just couldn't
start in CPR, coulding.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It's okay, it's not the same when it's in your house, right, Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
I've never done CPR and a baby, And and they
came and they started to work on the baby. Yeah,
I thought they knew the baby was dead.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
He did have come.
Speaker 7 (10:48):
Experience.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
And then.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
And then they came and they they they took the baby.
They were working on the baby in the van and
in the truck, and then they lived shortly and there
was another trick that came and took the uncle.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh okay, but I would like to kind of since
it's been a while and things are, you're you're fresh,
and you seem to be really together, which is great. Really, Yes,
this is the it it appears. I know you're up
set right, but you appear to be a lot stronger
than you were.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Really, I don't remember at all. May not be a
trying blazed it out no like that. Like when I
came and talked to you before that. Oh those times I.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Remember, you know, cause I remember you were saying with
Chris and then you came home. Tell me, tell me
how it happened. What was going on back then then
you came home? What do you mean, Well, you were
pregnant and you were staying with Chris. Oh the day before, yeah,
when I got into a hard Okay, so there, Yeah,
So tell me what was going on, like the entire thinger. Yeah, yeah,
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cause cause I've gotten mid some pieces, right, because like
you said, things were you know, and I I I
I'm looking at you now. I don't mind. It's not
about but the good cause it smells you actually, even
though it's bad for you. But first and cigarettes.
Speaker 6 (12:06):
It is. But what I you know, it's the first.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Time we talked.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
The second time we talked.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
To you, you were not how you appear now and
then so I want you to kind of have a
conversation and I'm just kind of understand. So yeah, for
the beginning, tell me or start with that day the
day before when you were at Chris's and then you weren't.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
So I was living there most of my pregnancy. I
wasn't in the beginning. I was, you know, obviously with
my mom, and then my mom when I fight like
hounds and dogs. So I left. W was in with
him that day, so or not that day that night,
I have very little memory of. I remember hanging out
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with him, and I remember waking up the next day.
He told me the next day, you had sixties years
last night, and you sleep three of them. I was
here for three of them. He went to the hospital.
Apparently he kicked a bottle and cut his foot over
and went to the hospital, and his mother told him
that I had another three. Seezuers, sorry, Sieges. I remember
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waking up and I even remember who he was, and
I knew he was a friend of mine before and
then now we know we our boyfriend and girlfriend. But
I had no memory, and so I was talking to
him and he was upset that I didn't remember a lot,
and he kept asking me questions over and over, and
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I was like, I'm sick of this. I'm gonna go home.
And I remember driving home knocking on my mom's door,
in which I never really do, and she kind of
just stared at me, you know, just like cause it's
happened a lot before, and she just looked at me
and was like, go to your room. So I went
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to my room and I remember just sitting there, but
it seems like hours. Oh sorry, put through this. I
don't want I understand. And I remember when they hang
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down on my bed and my phone kept going off.
This is before, and I believe Chris had called me.
He did. He did call me sorry, and he was
like are you okay? And I just for some reason
couldn't fathom what he was saying. And I was like, yeah,
I'm fine, what do you mean? And he's like okay,
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and he was like do you remember me? And I
was like, I'm sorry, you know, we're friends. I got
my mom's house. He was like okay, hung up the
phone and you My friends were calling me because Christopher
called my f my girlfriends and told them that I
had just s I know, seizures and he didn't they
knew that was pregnant and you're blowing me and I
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just wouldn't answering, and I remember getting cramp I think
really sharp. Yeah, I remembering.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It was pretty clear that Bianca didn't have a very
smooth sailing relationship with her mother, which is why she
was living at her boyfriend's. That unfortunate night made their
relationship even worse, As she told the detective and a
phone call a few months ago.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
My friend's house, my mom kind of abandoned me and
kicked me out the house, throw me out the house,
and no, that that's cop, that that's complicated. My family's
a mess. And then my mom's moving away to Land
during two weeks and we haven't really talked at all.
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We kind of just, yeah, she blames me for what happened,
So what do you mean?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
What does he say?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, when it first happened, originally she was she didn't
talk to me for a week because she was mad
because she said that I could have done something. And
then when the other day we actually talked on the phone,
we were arguing she was and I had brought up
because I was very upset. It was very emotional. I
was yelling at her and I was like, how could
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you abandon me? You know when I need you right now?
During this time period, I just lost my child and
she's kind of making the situation about herself. And she
was like, I'm going to say something about your kid
that I'm going to regret later. She was like, and
then she called me like a terrible mom or what did?
Speaker 8 (16:46):
What did she say?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
She wouldn't say it. I was like to say it.
I was like, to say whatever you need to say
about my kid. She was like, no, I'm going to
regret it later. And I was like, I'm going to
murder you know if I know you're a cop. You
did not hear that, sir?
Speaker 4 (16:57):
Oh my god, Oh I ain't no family, family issues
to be pretty contemptious.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Yes, yes, sorry, very safe, you stand.
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yes, yes for the yes.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
Okay, you remember holing is adilical? Ho out? I interested
to know what to do for some reason. Sorry, so
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I remember playing some delical corner out of me. I
remember here in karate Still be sure you remember what
take him? Like? How does wear your bobsers? I remember
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holy hap next to me and I don't know if
I fell asleep. Oh, just shock. I remember where you're
just sitting there. How do you been looking at I
remember getting up, I see I remember getting up, getting
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in the shower. My mother called me while I was
in the shower. She faced me, a regular call me,
and she asked me if she was gonna take me
to the C section the next day because I was
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supposed to be induced because I broke up my fellness
in a car accident a couple of years ago, so
I everyone thought I couldn't give birth. She was on
the phone with me, and I honestly funny, you even
remember betting on the phone with her. I don't recod
was calling them? Who do you remember her calling? And
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do you just remember what you got talking about. I
remember her saying, am I going to bring you tomorrow
to be induced? I don't you remember responding. I remember
her just saying, okay, I'll be home soon. When she
came home, she asked me if I wanted to go
to eat, and I remember she kept asking me over
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and over and just kept getting mad because I kept
saying yes. And then I just was just sitting there
and she eventually got first rated left the house. I
remember her coming home and screaming in my face, what's
going on? And I was like, I do no. I
remember her calling the ambulance and then her handing me
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the phone, which literally asked her, what do I say? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I did what to say? I'll be on the phone?
Did they get one when you're on the side, I
don't know. She in the the phone and I was
shying to talk and I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (20:07):
And then I remember her screaming from asking her she
even had to perform beyond and she kept telling them,
I s I can't do it. I remember sitting on
the couch and watching them hook him up to her
and don't walk him to the car. We were at
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the homes at all.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I remember when leaving again we Linco was christ And
then the day you went to your mom's house was
a day before.
Speaker 6 (20:42):
He was born, cause he were there overnight.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Right, Usually there's a family member present with a pregnant
woman at all times when she's about to deliver in
a couple of days, But in this case, Beyonca's mom
was pretty detached from her. Even Beyonca was very unsure
about having the baby. She had initially thought of aborting
him and later planned to put him up for adoption.
Speaker 8 (21:05):
Is there any medical medical.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
There was?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Like once or twice she started spotting and she freaked out.
Like January, maybe she came here okay, because they told
and there was I think one other time she was
freaked out like she hadn't felt the baby move.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Okay, when was that?
Speaker 8 (21:24):
I don't to be honest, I don't remember before the
spotting or after the spotting.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
After she ate something to try to induce the baby
moving and the baby started move.
Speaker 8 (21:32):
Oh good, okay? Is And how was her prenatal care?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
She started prenatal care in the second trimester because at
first she was going to terminate. Okay, but she's been going.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I do remember you told me about doing some time.
What were you doing around this time? Hm? I can't
say it, don't how old? Okay? Do media murder? Why
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do you feel like a murderer? It's like st figure
like don't probably don't be called in the ambulance. Was
something happening that you need to call the englance for?
I just kid it? Kay? Or you need to mean?
Was that long enough that I don't think I was mean? Okay?
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So what what were you doing for alis? Spoking, need
m anything else? I don't say an acts? Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
And when did you take them in xanax?
Speaker 6 (23:05):
What was it? What?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
What did you say the night before that night before
he was born. I was sorry, A couple of nights before.
And when did you smoke with marijuana that I don't remember?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
Was it that? Was it that Moms? No?
Speaker 4 (23:20):
Sure, I wouldn't never d she wouldn't murder. Did you
take any any of the drugs at Moms while you
were there? You know, have never been shooks in her house?
Do you take any kind of oxyes at the time?
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yes? What were you what kind of oxes? Where the
oxy cota on icy cotton?
Speaker 4 (23:37):
I wornphroon cotton likexicotten And when when would.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
You have taken that? And had I don't know? I
was aud and on and all? Were you prescribed or
just taking it? No? I was prescribed prescribe her them
from my car accident? And then what okay? So when
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you think the last time was that you took it
before he was born? A couple of daskay? And did
you mix that with the x anax's? Okay?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
And he said you didn't do the marijuana a moms either, Alright.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Her complex relationship with her parents and with other people
could be one of the reasons why she resorted to
as a way to escape it all. As she mentioned,
even her boyfriend had not treated her well in the past.
Something must have triggered her to deliver the baby herself.
We'll know more about this as the interview progresses.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Walk me through. So that night your home at Moms,
what time did you go to bed? It was all night?
How come has always been insomnia? Insomniac during the day, yes, sir? Sorry, okay.
So when you came to Moms, did you sleep during
the day while she was at work?
Speaker 6 (25:06):
I don't remember one to see kry. I remember like
staring at my stealing for hours. I think I was
up the entire time. But I remember when I got
to the hospital, I slept for like three years. Okay.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
So that night, over night before he was born, you
were laying on your.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Bed, Yes, sir, it was on my bed in the
entire time. Okay. And when you said you punched the wall,
when did you punch the wall while that was giving birth?
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Oh? Okay? So what what time did that start? I
don't mind. It wasn't looking now from do you even
day so daytime? Yes, sir? And so how do you
know it's daytime? It was the late hot time. Oh okay,
that makes sense. That's a good way to know alright.
So was it just you were an house? Yes, sir, okay,
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so you were bad. Here's a wall and this is
your bad, right, and you got a window here and
a window here, yes alright? So which way this is you?
Here's your head? Which way were you weighing? Jos? Window
that's behind me? So put any sanity 's on loud love.
So if this is your head, your head is here
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against this window. Cause the door, the door that you
were gonna see it, right, you're sir okay, So your
head is here, and you got a dresser here, don't
you a big long one yes on the door? Tell
my left, yeah, and then he yeah, it's a time, well,
not when you were there. While you're at the hospital.
How bad is that pain that those cramps? Was it
really bad on the scale of one of the ten?
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Where were we at ten?
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Ten?
Speaker 4 (26:42):
And did they happen for a long time or a
short time? Did you said afternoon? So was it okay?
Short time? A short time? Okay? And what did you
do when you felt those cramps? Just laid there okay?
And when did you punch the wall? Cause the wall
didn't do anything to you. When did you punch the wall?
When I was pushing. Okay, Well, did you start pushing?
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I don't know what it was on, No, I know,
but when you said that you felt the cramps, you
said it wasn't for a long time. So how long
they from the time you started feeling with the pain
of the crams? Did you start pushing? I remember I.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Got a short pain and then I got up, rent
to the bathroom, pee, went back to the room, laid there.
I remember it kind of felt like I had to
like poof, so like sitting there, like you know, like
you can't have to poop out of that different thing.
And I was just sitting there like trying like to
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like hold it in. I remember punching the wall and
getting berg started pushing at that point. Okay, So you
were holding in and holding and all of a sudden
you punched the wall and start pushing. And how long
did the pushing cake? Oh, ten minutes? Okay?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And so then once the pu was there pain after
you pushed or was it was it there was? And
how long did that pain last after you pushed her?
And how long? Ok girl, I'm sorry, that's okay. What
were you wearing? Boxers? Maybe a T shirt like this?
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I think a red boxers red boxers. Were they like
boy shorts? Oh yeah, the boy short boxers?
Speaker 6 (28:37):
Okay? And so when he was born, how did he
come out?
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Did he come out feet first, head first, arms first.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Or something else? Fings first? Why? Who was a head
head first? Head first? Okay? So I remember grabbing where
did you grab maybe his shoulders? Okay? Grabbed him kind
of happen okay? And was he still in your board
sorts when he brought it next to you? So how
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did you get the board sorts off? I didn't. I
just kept them on ice moved 'em over. Yes, I
thought you had pulled them down, okay, because it was
a lot of foods coming out and a ground him
and I put 'em on the side of me. And
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I remember grabbing on the local chord in the sack,
like a bunch of the wood came out after I
grew the sack. What color was that? Bluids? Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
The detective was also trying to understand if Bianca was
intoxicated while delivering the baby because of her behavior during
the incident.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
And then this morning he went to work, he is
cirt and you said, you got home and you you
noticed the blinds, Yes, sir.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
And what was she doing when you noticed the blinds?
Speaker 5 (29:55):
She was in my bed.
Speaker 8 (29:56):
She was laying in your bed, in my bed?
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
And what was she sleeping?
Speaker 8 (30:01):
Was she?
Speaker 6 (30:01):
A wait?
Speaker 5 (30:02):
She was awake?
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And what was she doing?
Speaker 5 (30:04):
She just laying in my pitch? Why had called her earlier? Show?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
So at some point you took your leg out of
the Shortska do you do you? You know what I'm saying?
Cause you cause you walked to the shower without him, right,
he said, you took a shower. Yeah, so you didn't
have him on your side then? So how did how
did the shorts come off of you? I remember taking
him off and he was laying off the pitch by himself.
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He could and h what what kind of cry was
he having at that point? Come like when you hear
on TV when they first come out.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
And so when you took the took the shorts off
of your leg and put him on the bed by himself,
he was still crying.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Oh no, sorry? Oh? What was then he gave her?
If he wasn't home making And when I went to
seek a shower, when did he stop going? Maybe five
minutes to ten minutes after I gave birth, I believe, okay,
And was it still next to you or was he
what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Was he still next to your leg? Or was he
next to you? Oh? When I caught up? No, when
you stopped crying? Who was next to me? On on
your leg? Though?
Speaker 6 (31:16):
When do you stop crying? Stay?
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Yeah, Chris, I was still lagged up. When did you
first see his face? Still feeling? You never saw his
face on the bed. It's dark in my room, really dark, okay.
I used to keep sun blocker sh sh sho d
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window curtains. I was really old. He was a dark marrow.
Did you pull him down at some point? I think
one blind? Yes, when I was giving first. Is that
when he punched him cot?
Speaker 6 (31:52):
Then? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Okay, so that makes sense though, Okay, so I hate
to keep doing next to you, but kind of I
wasn't there, so I got to figure it out. So
you got your boy shorts on? They're stalling both legs.
I think I took this leg out and moved it
over to this leg, only you had one on. How
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come he didn't take both off? How did you get
that one off without getting hirled off?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Sorry? I think I just took it off this leg
and pulled it back up. Oh my home. Okay, was
he in my boy shirts?
Speaker 4 (32:32):
I I from what I understanding, he was in your
boy shorts when fire Recu came, when you when Firescuy came.
So it was already afternoon, and it took before before
he started getting a cram.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
And then.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
I took a took a little bit, taken care of birth.
He said, about ten minutes of pain, and then he
pushed and then he was out. Yes, sir, so it
could be anywhere from the afternoon to four five o'clock
when my mom came home. But before that he took
a shower. Yes, so you said, So I think my
mom called you it was about four cause I I
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got yeah, she was on the way home. Yeah, so
she called you on four. So between noon and four
this happened. How long did did it take him to
stop crying? No, he was just sitting when there was
me said about five to ten minutes.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
Is that right? I'm sir?
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And was the whole time? Was he's on your side?
Or did you end up? I think I remember last
time we spoke, you said, he pick He moved him
up to lay next to you and pulled a planket
over him. I think that's correct. It to your Yes,
when I went to go take a shower, yes, okay,
oh so so let's go. So he's he's next to
in the leg, yes, sure, tell me. Get me to
the point where we're going to take a shower. I
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and then it's a The time frame might not work
for you, but tell me how that he's laying here,
he's crying.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Then what happens? He's crying and don't remember him laying
next to me and it was cold, and so I
checked him out of my boxers and I put it
next to me, and for some reason, I didn't want
to live, and I remember just looking at him.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
He was This is what the police officer saw when
he entered her room that day.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Did she say why she thought the baby was dead?
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Uh?
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Just because it's a new born baby in a bed
by itself, you know, with the placenta still attached to it.
I guess it wasn't breathing when she saw it. You know,
all that together, I think she had some type of
medical She said she worked at a assisted living.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Or rehab around here, so I remember what she was wearing.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
She had like scrubs on.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I think she said she was a nurse.
When you asked if the baby was alive, did she
tell you anything?
Speaker 12 (34:50):
She kind of said, I don't know, I remember, I
don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
I don't remember. Okay, And how did she appear.
Speaker 12 (34:55):
To even getting even she was asking her for a
driver's license, you know she was, I don't know, I
don't know. The mom actually got a driver relations for
me for the from the daughter.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Out of her purse. Okay, who cut the cord? You
know who he did? Okay?
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Who's the rescue truck?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Okay, the rescue did.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I pulled him next to me, and then I went
to get up to take a shower, and it was cold,
and he felt cold. I pulled the blanket up to
his chin, and I remember feeling like the the little
around me and stuff was, you know, getting cold. So
I went up and walked and took a shower and
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walk home. I'm sorry, it's so makes sense. It does.
It told me about it. It does. You're okay, so
you go in and take the shower.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Before that, when you pulled the the blanket up to
his chin, and you said you did you you took
the boxers off of you and then moved him next
to you, Yes, sir? And was he still crying?
Speaker 6 (35:52):
No, sir? What was it? Was he doing anything? No, sir?
Okay did you see his was he moving at all? Okay?
Now okay. There I was on a couch sitting there
or in my room. I think I was the only
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couch when she came home, cause I heard her car. Hello,
I went to the couch. Where were you when you went? Before?
You went to the couch and the room laying down
and that was like it was kind of like a robot,
like I knew my mom was din move to do
cause I think I knew that my head was going on,
but I couldn't comprehend, like I wasn't even talking, and
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I I knew she's my mom, didn't know what to do.
I remember just looking at her, like help me.
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Did you say that? Or you just looked at her?
Just looked at her? Did you ever go into her room?
And she ran in there and started screaming at me
to call the ambulance and I was like I can't,
and she you know, handing me her phone and I
was like I don't know how to talk and she
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ended up grabbing it from me and talking to him.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
Ever there quick. That's what happened. When they got there.
There was a lady officer trying to talk to me.
It was and it was like getting I couldn't really
talk and was he could you hear him breathing? No?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I couldn't hand breathe, so it wasn't make any always
to breathe like like you rye breathing ay, always one right.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
No, he wasn't making anyone okay. He wasn't responding to
any of the people who were looking to adult him.
I just I knew further along into my bregnance. Yet
I couldn't do it. Couldn't it work? I couldn't give
'em up? Cause why didn't some responding to those people?
Why starts in my room? She couldn't do it? And
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so what so you were thinking you were gonna keep it?
How was that gonna play out? Who was my house?
How would I would give my life?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
The only thing Bianca had to say on the day
she delivered her baby and was brought to the hospital
was that she didn't know what had happened, which raised
even more questions.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
I don't know how long.
Speaker 9 (38:41):
Would be be breck.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
H what's that.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
In the world? Were you scheduled for delivery anytime soon?
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (38:53):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (38:54):
I don't know. You don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
How long have you known't he was gonna be a boy?
You don't know that either. Did you have any names
picked out? Mom said you were thinking about areas?
Speaker 6 (39:07):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (39:08):
One said you were thinking about adoption? Is that true?
Speaker 6 (39:13):
Now?
Speaker 4 (39:13):
Your mom told me that what Zack was around him?
Speaker 8 (39:19):
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
M Do you know what that is?
Speaker 6 (39:24):
You have?
Speaker 13 (39:24):
You took the shower? I think there you were on
Instagram for a little bit. Yeah, I'm more an instagram
a mom, just aimlessly rolling. Did you message anybody while
you were on Instagram afterwards? I don't believe. So maybe
I don't know. So what do you think caused him
to stop crying? Not cutting his abilically? So this is
(39:48):
the m report. It talks about his development. He was
well developed, and the findings are what's called traumatic SI. Yeah,
and what that means is is that he basically couldn't breathe,
and so we have to figure out why he couldn't breathe?
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Good.
Speaker 6 (40:15):
Yeah, Now, maybe he died because I didn't cut the cord, no,
or was it touching your your body? But you I
don't know. I felt a part of him touching me,
right right. I don't know the specifically that was his head.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Or not, but I know he was touching why cause
when I read the report, it talks about there's a
mark from the shorts along his body, kay, and it
it's the word is called potikia full of dots, so
it's it's kind of bruising. And it says scattered petikia
involved the post here scalped neck, shoulders, and upper body,
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as well as along the uh the line just below
the artaculary folds.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
And so that's indicative of kind of pressure, right, And
that's kind of why.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
That's also why I ask about if you if you
place anything on his face, whether it be purpose or accidentally,
you know, to keep him from breathing, because any pressure
on his face with a pillow or or a blanket,
you know, they're tiny little creatures and then they can't
push that away or anything like.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
That, so you give it, blank give it. I've got up. Yeah,
what it was up to his chin and wasn't he
was laying on his back at that point, I don't remember, okay, yeah, good,
there's a right here for a little while, okay. And
then I remember grabbing him and pulling him upwards towards me.
(41:54):
And it was after I Pulladelph the the order in
the sack, okay, and were both legs still in the
shorts when he pulled him up. I believe he saw that. No,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
Okay, well, but but he was on the shorts as
well when he pulled him up. Yes, okay, So how
did you what did you use to pull him up?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
Hands?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Feet, knight heads? No, no, his hands, feet and neck?
Gad where did you know your hands were pulled him up.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
His hand, his shoulders, his h arms and pulled him up. Okay?
Did you wanna have ever grab something? Really quick?
Speaker 1 (42:34):
She began breaking down as the detective proceeded with his questions,
to the point that he had to comfort her.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
So instead of trying to figure this out, like describe it,
this is what we normally use. Do you mind just
doing that? I made sure it wasn't as a little girl, so.
Speaker 6 (43:18):
You can't do you wanna howk first? See did you
(43:44):
get your frona water a little bit? If you want oh,
I don't show so from from the beginning. So he's
born in your shorts. And where's he end up when
(44:04):
first seas might be down to here in the middle
after I gave first and he came out and he
head first, okay, And so I picked him on and I, uh,
hear my shorts and I took my shorts off. This
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is like okay, and I I just didn't care what
the morning. I just love to cry this se.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
I.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
I pulled him on boes tear okay, here his feasts
things like that, okay, yeah, and he's up against your
body crying at that point, he's crying here, Oh yes, okay, sweet, okay,
(44:56):
excuse me, I don't it's okay. The hear hold, I
don't guess, alright. And then what happened? How long did
you lay like that while? Yeah? A while longer? Huh older? Yeah, alright,
(45:28):
so you lay there for a while, yes, how And
then what happened after you lay there for a while
live on my phone there didn't the rope, but just
not being able to talk and just kind of mold
like a robot.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
Meanwhile, her boyfriend called her again to check up on her.
Speaker 6 (46:01):
Oh not really, I'm talking to agitate you. Are you
ever mean to be m angry towards you? M I
don't know what to feet like. Someone just punched me
in the freaking chest. He used the dough from the
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grab you someone just being are any good eats? I'm
gonna go? Do you just nick CAUTI? Mo? You wanna
stay on the him? I say, mom, no, so I
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think his mom something? Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (46:50):
He taketed me any answer. So he grabs a random foot.
Do you have a caffeine? Let's see where you Did
you have any sodas or coffees or anything or stimulants?
Speaker 6 (47:03):
Right, honestly, I drink I don't bag kind of drink coffee?
Do not? Really?
Speaker 4 (47:09):
And then it was positive for opioids. It was positive
for opioids. Oxy morphone?
Speaker 6 (47:16):
What's that?
Speaker 4 (47:18):
What's that oxy more phone? Yeah, like a perposet. It
could be a perposet. So they don't really tell you.
They just say, yet you have an oxymorphone at 'em?
So would that is that something you take as a percocets?
And when there was a lot of times for the perk,
was it that?
Speaker 6 (47:36):
Mom? No, I wouldn't break drunks in her house and
after women give birth, name you stuff to kick their children.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
The detective did try to ask her if she had
killed the baby herself, as the clues were hinting towards
had a depression.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
No, no, no, I'm not a postpart 'em. It's called
something like when I can women get the birth of
it when they were throwing them in the dumpster or something.
Mm you mean something like that like purposely killing my son? No,
just cause my language now, I wouldn't do that, kay
(48:15):
uh I. I don't think you would do that. But
in your state of mind, did you do that? No?
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Sure, no, cause that's the the underlying question, right right,
you know, with the way you react, reacted to us
and and kind of.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
Didn't wanna talk to us, And really what when I
didn't wanna talk and gave that impression?
Speaker 4 (48:40):
No necessari, I'm j I'm just saying the question could
be raised, was that?
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Why? Right?
Speaker 4 (48:45):
I mean, the way I've treated you? Do you think
I I came across that way? I'm just but I
have to ask a tough question. No, no, no, right?
And I it nice and I'm looking at this and
I will tell you that I don't know that the
shorts could do by itself.
Speaker 6 (48:58):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I don't believe the shorts did it by itself. I
think there was something else. And it could be in
your state of mind of being afraid to keep him
or put him up and being confused. Or was it
an accident where you rolled over? Was it an accident
where you play something? Those are the things we gotta
figure out together, you know what I mean? There's what
they call cause of death is phyxia, and then the
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manner of death is homicide?
Speaker 6 (49:21):
Right what?
Speaker 4 (49:24):
And then the way it's written is because there was
no action taken, it's considered homicide. It could be that
because then the not taking action had how do we
call do you ever reported that? That's not what homicide means.
Homicide is the overall death of another person, death of
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a of another group. But we have to understand what
happens that it's important. I gotta get a female officer
will take you back there, cause there's no I don't
were the bat was there about when?
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Up front? Were you with or anything? No? I don't,
I'm not where about anything. Were there about him up front?
I don't know. I was like here was I I'm
not usually in.
Speaker 1 (50:10):
This Slowly it was becoming clearer that even if Bianca
had not killed the baby herself, the results of her behavior.
Speaker 6 (50:16):
Did you know obviously something him suck again? Yeah, I
mean you want me to give you his answer? Well,
you were the only I think it is. Yeah, tell me.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
I mean, if you were there, what do you where
do you when I say this is he he sucked again?
And I wanna know what you think happened, cause you
were there, based on what you know, based on.
Speaker 6 (50:40):
What you felt. Honestly say it for me playing the
blanket over him to more than I think him being
in my boxers cause they were, you know, small on me.
But the way he was next to me, you know,
literally right next to me could have been the pumpink.
(51:09):
W When did you put the blanket off? Well, when
I would to give up to take a shower, and
he'd already started crying by that kids, So he would
have been crying the whole time, is what you were
saying when he was alive.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
I mean, sometimes they couldn't fall asleep, or you know
babies do fall asleep too, cause they could, you know,
they wear themselves out. But so I don't know, I
wasn't you know, but it was a box hours. Was
he moving when you took him him put him next
to you? Did he just crying? What he was doing?
Did he feel kind of limp or together or how
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you know you were moving him around? How did he feel?
What did some big like red flows and the blake
give him? I remember you're like, I don't know were lighting?
So when did humans ripples blake? Did he stop crying
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the legs between your legs before you moved in? So
he didn't really cry next to you? When did you know?
You did.
Speaker 6 (52:19):
Know that you're telling anything of this when you think you're.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Back, did you and you put the blanket over him?
Speaker 6 (52:30):
No? I can't birth the blanket over usually olders wrapped
up in something like it? Cool? Okay, So he was
crying when he came out? Yeah? Sure? And then when
did he stop crying before I had picked a little?
(52:51):
Do you remember when you were still get out drink
giving birth? I sat there, brought a lot of 'em.
It's just couldn't us it did. Uh was a coloborand
a got just give birth to my son.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Right, so we're both lakes tole your swords at that
time yes, and that their very fuzzy blanket was over top.
Speaker 6 (53:14):
Yeah, bock serious okay?
Speaker 4 (53:18):
And how long did he He cried for about ten
minutes while he was down there.
Speaker 6 (53:23):
Hm.
Speaker 1 (53:26):
And so then what happened next, This unfortunate day was
going to haunt her for the rest of her life.
Speaker 6 (53:33):
And goodness to me, that make him the way you
told me? But he wouldn't cry anymore. That's sick, HM.
That's why he killed him the blanco.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
Did you know that he was not breathing when you
moved him on your hip? And is that aways poking?
It's like, but it was cut off. What what do
you mean a part of his habits? Don't in the
(54:15):
box chairs? Okay, So then miss the prisons.
Speaker 6 (54:25):
Maybe they just lay Oh that's what it's lay down, Okay,
good taking time, don't guess Look at me, You're not
a monster. I can see it any place. You're not. Kay.
Speaker 4 (54:46):
Just want another truth, I know, I just want another truths.
Speaker 6 (55:01):
HM. I lifted the blanket up like well, it was
towards my chest and I lifted it up, and I
remember opening my legs okay, just cause she cut out
the water. And I remember I feeling that dougal cording it.
(55:22):
It was all spinny. There was polly mm sah, just
poked down. I remember, looking just like a bold pretty
much and put the blanket back down too. Have degressive mud.
(55:48):
So have you even seen him yet? Cause you just
got that out with the blanket back. And he was
crying while he was down there. Yes, the same kind
of cry we talked about. Okay, did you feel like
when you would say your legs? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (56:07):
Did you you did you say you took your leg
out or did you leave it in?
Speaker 6 (56:10):
Oh? Yeah? Does it took place leg? And I kicked
this one in and think conto my shorts off? Took
'em all the way off? Yes, okay? And you pulled
them down to them and it might be a grabbed
you and pull 'em next to me? Okay? And he
(56:31):
was was he?
Speaker 4 (56:31):
Where were your shorts? And then when mom and mommy, kay,
did you what did you tell her about what what happened?
When I was in the hospital. She went in talk
to me, why not? What does she think happened? She
excuse me, you're killing you? What did she say she
ain't happen? Or say it just that's what you feel like?
(56:54):
She thinks, how about talk? Can you was in the hospital,
she talk my stepmother to take care of me. She
couldn't do it anymore. And why would you think you
would kill your child? Did you know that if you
cared in there that you would not be able to Breathe?
(57:16):
Did she killed her? Something like? Uh? Could you su feedem?
Did you do those things to uh keep me having
(57:38):
to make a choice? Anything else? Lo time?
Speaker 6 (57:48):
And you promise everything that was to incorrect? Okay?
Speaker 1 (57:52):
This case does shed light on the fact that the
environment for teenagers matters a lot during their growing years.
Had Bianca been guided by her parents in her life decisions,
maybe the outcome would have been different. She had also
been consuming of all kinds while pregnant, and only she
knows what happened that day and whether the death of
the baby was deliberate. Subsequently, she was charged with aggravated
(58:14):
manslaughter of a child and child neglect causing great bodily harm.
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