SummerSlam week continues on The Playback! In fact, tonight is night 1 of the biggest party of the summer in New Jersey! Back in 1991, it was in New York City, and one the best matches of that night was Bret 'Hit Man' Hart taking on IC champ Mr. Perfect. Jay Dawg & CJ look back on it!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is a production of the Pulse podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
In this edition of the Playback, Jaydagg and CJ look
back on Brett the Hitman Heart battling WWE Intercontinental Champion
Mister Perfect at WWE SummerSlam, which took place on August
twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one, from Madison Square Garden in
New York City, New York.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The third greatest Summer Slam match of all time according
to w W Special thanks to them, by the way
for the playlist of the greatest Summer Slam matches. And
look at Brett the Hitman Heart right or he is
the contender, He's not the champion. This is for the
intercontinental title. Look at that pink jack.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was about say, the pink jacket stands out big tame, Yeah,
Brett Rock and the shades, the shades, the full Brett Hart.
Look the classic jade dog. Tell me you had this
outfit when you were a kid.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I had the I had a black one. I didn't
have the I wanted to put pink on it. You
wanted the pink parents.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They had his parents at what every event is his
parents there. I feel like every time we're watching them,
his parents are just out here for summer slam.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Stuin Helen.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, very exciting Summer Slam. By the way, tonight on
Peacock this is night one and uh Netflix internationally Peacock US. Yeah,
what time, Jade.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Dog, I believe seven. And there's the coach by the way, John.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Tolos So is named the coach. He's just called the coach. Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, he didn't need one though. That's the thing is
mister Perfect is perfect. He's absolutely perfect. Right there, there's
the towel. He's gonna split the gum out and hit
it to the crowd.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So I don't know mister perfect. Kurt Henning, I don't
know much about, if anything about mister purfect.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Okay, awesome wrestler, one of the best ones to not
win the w w EE Championship. And watch the way
he gets in the RNK.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Love that his belt fell off. What is so he's
wearing the belt here? He's the champion, He's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The continental chap right there.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But yeah, but Brett is uh, I mean, Brett's much
more of a prolific wrestler. What an experience for that kid?
Kid gets to leave with Brett hard shades.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yep, gives it to a youngster. Yeah, Roddy Piper.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, and it is the playback, by the way, Yes,
CJ and J Dog here.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wait you hold on a second. Here, I'm the one
that does that around here, I know, I'm Jay Dog
and CIJ. Whereas bet this is CJ and J Dodge
Madison Square Garden. They are jammed to the rafters, say
nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Paint the picture.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Ja, This was like the third match. I think this
was not the main event on the card.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I feel like the best ones aren't. It seems to be.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That way, right. What does that tell you?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, Well the planning of booking some of these
certain matches, whoever's doing the scheduling, it could be done
a little better.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The well, they had a match made in Heaven and
a match made in hell in this event as Randy
Mutchellman Savage got married to Miss Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That was this. This was like when that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, oh the summer slim, yes, the oh mister perfect
by the way, wearing.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
A blue and black like leotarre, mainly like light blue
like kind of a almost not Columbia blue, but it's
more like a ice lake Okay, with black. Well, he's
he was from Minnesota. The land what is that the
land of a thousand lakes or something? Ten thousand lakes? Thousand,
(04:13):
I mean a thousands a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm multiplying that. Yeah, that's why they have so many
hockey players.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, I'm not surprised. That's why there's a portion.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Ooh, mister Perfect had a bad back in this match,
by the way, not because yeah, not because the takedowns
like that, but as you can see mister Perfect waving
his legs that he was in agony. Yeah, he was
wearing white boots with black mister p on his on
the boots.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh did the ref just grab his hair? No, it
looked like the ref grab Brett's hair for a second.
Both gentlemen here grabbing each other.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The coach blowing the whistle, it's so obnoxious. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Girlha Monsoon and Bobby the Brain heenen already getting into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, Roddy Piper, we're gonna have We're gonna have two
matches going on at once. One's gonna be on the
on the commentator's booth.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Now, the match Made in Hell was Hulk Hogan and
the Ultimate Warrior versus Sergeant Slaughter, who was playing an
Iraqi sympathizer. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, this was during the Persian Gulf War.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, uh, and I believe Colonel Mustafa who was the
iron chic. Okay, yeah, so that was the match made
in Hell. And what was made famous about I think
Sid Justice was the special enforcer, like the referee. What
was what was made special about it was that the
Ultimate Warrior held up the company for a five hundred
(05:49):
thousand dollars appearance fee, which reached his contract.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What yeah what wait, so he like basically said, I'm
not showing up in less you pay me five hundred
thousand dollars. Yeah, which back then would have been a
stupid amount of money. Like that's a lot of money.
And what year is this, Like, this is nineteen ninety one, okay,
So I mean it was a little later than I
(06:15):
thought it was. I was going to say, like eighty
nine or something like that. But I mean in the nineties,
even then, five hundred thousand dollars, I mean five hundred.
I'd take five hundred thousand dollars right now, but I
mean its value is not what it was like back then.
That would have been you could have boughten three houses
as opposed today, you could probably buy like a house,
probably a sublet, yeah, a studio apartment somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Brett, they agreed to pay, but they didn't actually
give him the money because after the match he was fired.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So but that sounds super illegal too, to be like
we'll pay you, just come work and then as soon
as you're done working, we'll fire you and then we
won't pay you. Like, that's exactly what that sounds like.
What that situation is is this So I haven't seen it,
and you'll have to. You'll have to let me know.
I feel like you've probably right in the gut. Have
(07:06):
you seen the what is it the Ultimate Warrior like
movie or whatever they came out with.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The DVD, the Rise and Fall of the Ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, there was like a movie where someone it was
almost like a biopic.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But what was it like it was a dark side
of the ring. No, it was called like nice body slam.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let me, it's time to get off track and look
it up again.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
This is for the Intercontinental Championship. Mister perfect uh clotheslined
right out of the ring and again his back was
absolutely killing him. Oh, yeah, absolutely take account. That's right,
Bobby the brain. He didn't actually give him some sage
advice right there. As a broadcast journalist and WWE SummerSlam
Tonight night one Saturday, it is the first time it's
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going back to back nights in terms of it's the
WrestleMania of the summer. Is mister perfect? Is he gonna cow?
Or he's chicken the eyes out? He's he's leaving there? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
His back is Yeah, Brett ain't done with you?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh he is.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
He's literally pulling him apart.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I can't find what I'm looking for, Jay Dog, Yeah,
I thought one of these covers looked like it The
Dark Side of the Ring kind of looks like the
thing I was looking at. But I don't think that is.
I'll have to get back to you. I don't know
what I was thinking of. There's like a documentary or something.
I maybe it was like or it's like a biopic,
I thought, But I can't find what I'm looking for.
(08:39):
I don't think there's a biopic of the Ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I feel like there was like a wrestling movie that
came out a couple of years ago, But I'm wrong.
I can't find it, so it must be some Mandela
effect hitting my brain.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh, legal punch, but the ref didn't see it right
to his face, mister perfect.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Mm hm oh, Brett down on the ground, getting on
the canvas, taking a taking a beating here. I think
maybe was this it No.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Kicked him in the ribs right out of the ring.
That is so obnoxious. That whistle, it's funny because I
think Bill Alonso used that for e c W.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The whistle.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes, you've probably heard it if you've seen old classic
ECW matches. Bill, give it a rest.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The coach is honestly one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like he didn't last long either, what.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Would you even call it? Like not a coach, but
like manager, Thank you, that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, Bobby the brain Heenon was mister perfect manager. But
Bobby the brain Heenton decided to get back into broadcast
journalism and occasionally occasionally do do uh like managing. Yeah.
Rick Flair, who would come to the company later in
the year, the uh with the w c W Championship belt.
(10:09):
He took the belt.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
With him when he left.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, they had to pixelate the logo and everything. When
he came to the really because they didn't have the
rights or correct.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Wow, yeah, but you were saying I think we were
talking about this recently. There was like if you have
like a ww whoa who is this guy? Who's who's
getting I think it was the ring keeper the sorry,
the whistle keeps getting blown and it's distracting me. I
keep I'm like, what is what's going on? I keep
forgetting the coaches on the side. Weren't you saying like
(10:41):
if you won like a like say right now, you
were the WWE champion and you whotographer if you wanted
to leave the WWE but you were the champion, would
you take the belt with you? Or is it like
the WWE World Wrestling you can That's what I'm saying, Like,
if you wanted to go to like, let's like okay,
like a like another a competitor. Yeah, I'm not gonna editor,
(11:05):
but like, if if you wanted to go to a competitor, like,
couldn't you take the belt with you? Isn't that like
kind of what Rick Flair did essentially?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But yeah, but there again, there were TV rights, so
Turner owned w c W, so there was no way
of of that happening they had because USA Network had
WWF at the time.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So well, nowadays it feels like they're all kind of
more friendly with each other more.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, you can't take the.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, I'm not saying that, you I know that there's
still TV rights and there's still like things like that.
I'm just saying I feel like a lot of the
competitors are more intertwined between different between between different Like
I was thrown right into the turn buckle, like I
feel like, you know, like we were talking about Christian.
(11:57):
Christian was on what like TNA and then went to
back to W E W W w W. Yeah, oh
my god, that was crazy. Yeah, mister perfect out here
trying to put.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
On a wrestling classic. Yeah, this is what it is. Essentially,
it is a wrestling classic. So the.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But basically what I'm saying is like I feel like
a lot of these guys, the the wrestlers, the ladies too.
I'm assuming they go from like one competitor to another
and back and forth. I feel like it's more intertwined nowadays,
where like the talent can kind of, you know, do
(12:44):
a short stint somewhere and go and do a short
stint somewhere else. You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, it's not a short stint if you're going
to another competitive if you're going to a competitor, you're
going there.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
To Yeah, but how long is a contract? Three to
five years? I'd consider that a short stint in sports,
And well.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With professional wrestling, you're going from town to town on
the road, and you're on TV every week. There's no
off season.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, I know, which feels like a million years. I mean, yeah,
it feels probably more like it probably feels longer because
it's every day. Yeah, but it is still in like
I said, in like the bigger scope of it, like
in sports, it's still three years, has gone for like
five years. I think that to see that's like a
little bit longer. Yeah, like three years is pretty short.
(13:29):
Five years is when it's like all right, like.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
There are both on the top rope. Actually they're on
or about they're on the second No. Oh Brett's tangle,
Oh that could that could have been disaster. You can
break a leg doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Mister Perfect trying to the worst pin I've ever seen,
and now he's fighting the ref because of it. Don't
know that perfect, don't rough? Oh sure, the commentating is great.
This dude. Have you seen this dude in the background
who keeps jumping up and trying to get on camera. No,
(14:09):
you'll point it out.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know that roof of the Mecca, you know that's
the mecca. Yeah, that's Madison Square Garden. No, never have you.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, I went one time. I went for a whoa,
you can't drag the hair. You can't do that, flipped
him from his hair. Yeah, the coach again going wild
off the side of the ring and swallow that whistle please.
I went to MSG for a Deaden Company concert. My
first Deaden Company concert ever was the MSG. Oh that
(14:39):
the Mecca, Yeah, and it was on It was a
Halloween Oh geez. It was cool.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Deaden Company and Halloween. That's got to be a that's
got to be a shin dig.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It was wicked cool. We were right next to the
sound like area, yeah, the like sound pit, whatever you
want to call it. And you could see like so
we were aren't that far from the pit, and we
were like pretty close to the pit, and you could
see Bill Walton standing in the crowd because he was
(15:09):
like seven feet tall. He's like the older person, he's
not a little guy. Yeah, So like you could see
him in the pit at the garden, which was really cool.
And also it was Jimmy Fallon's first Grateful Dead concert ever.
He had done like a little like thing on his
show before the concert, YEP, that was basically like, Hey, tonight,
I'm going out to Madison Square Garden. You can see
(15:30):
me at the Grateful Dead concert or whatever. So we
got to see that the next day.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Brett Hart, he's striking a bad back and all mister
Perfect is his his outfit has been torn as shredded.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But yeah, yeah, but it feels like he's got this
in the bag. Brett, Brett getting absolutely manhandled here.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So Matches I'm looking forward to for the start tonight
right or oh right back into that turnbuckle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Perfect just see mister Perfect keeps going after the penny,
won't stop. But Brett is just not gonna bread. Ain't
going down that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Easy night one. The matches though, Sammy Zain versus Carry
and Cross, because I think those two are kind of
a little rivalry going right there. Roman reigns and Jay
uso versus bron Breaker and Bronson reed, so you get
the bron Braun then going.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
On, there's no way Roman reigns and USO lose that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Okay, all right, okay, all right. Another one I'm looking
forward to is uh the World Heavyweight Championship match. There's
the perfect plex. Is it enough?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
No? No, no way, Bratt Heart looks like a zombie.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You kicked out of it, muster.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Bike. Those those almost corny like it's not corny, but
it's like almost corny, like the like extra ness of
it from like those eighties like commentators had. I love
it like that extra energy almost.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh, World heavy eeight Champion Guther versus c I'm punk.
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oh that looked like it hurt. Yeah, Gunther versus cmpunk.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, for the World Heavyweight Championship Gunther dring general who
retired Goldberg.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh he slid so far. That happened on that last
move that Brett did too. He like went to go
do almost like a backbreaker to him or something, or
like a spinebuster, and then like when he did, he
like slipped off of him. Mister perfect feels. It looks
like he's whoa. That was a huge soup legs. Oh,
(17:53):
come on, the coach in the background blowing the whistle
two fingers up that souplex was huge. Brett, he's wearing
the pink star instead of the pink and black star.
A little roll up, Nope, got the.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Pink and black tights and never Yeah, well, Roddy Piper
is going to take on bro We've already done the
playback for that when we celebrated Bretteart's birthday from WrestleMania.
So yeah, the neck breaker, the neck breaker, no no, no, no, no, no,
(18:32):
Brett became this is when him and well, oh him
and Jim and the Envil night Art had gone their
separate ways after tag teams success. So Brett trying to
be a solo star and there's the elbow.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
One two No, Oh my gosh, this raf needs to
speed it up, buddy.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Red white and blue ropes, and is he gonna get
him with the roll up?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
No way, Oh no, I can't. I can't see the
guy now trying to be on TV.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, this dude right here in the yellow Yeah, he's
been doing that since the walkouts.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh did you see that he flew into the pole?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Oh my gosh, Roddy is Roddy's working it right now.
I ain't gonna lie. Roddy's Roddy's gonna be up there
for maybe top five best mics of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Kicked him from all yeah, gosh, yep, kick him in
the leg. Look at the way the little lips. Yeah,
I don't think so. No, we're not Yeah, we're not
close to the time limit. It's a twenty minute time limit.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I didn't realize there was a twenty minute time limit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Usually there is. They just don't really talk.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Was he sharpshooter?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
He's about to but coach?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Uh? This ha one flying by coach. Oh he kicked
the white middle rope. Oh my gosh. No, the coach
is down and out.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
He doesn't know where he is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Coach has no business on the apron. The mic work
is great in this.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh that might have been illegal right there where you
hit him.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's been a
lot of illegal stuff going on. The hair pulling has
been NonStop, and the ref's like stop pulling the air,
and they're like, okay, oh this ref he is Uh,
(20:52):
he's gonna have a migraine after this. He's been screaming
non and look at this the counter. Look what he's
turned it into. Is this like a Is this like
a sharp shot. He's gonna he's gonna roll into the
sharp shoot right there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
He taps yeah already and he's still going, oh oh no,
stealing hell and the hearts.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
They approve it's number three on the list, right yeah,
third greatest Summer Slam match of all time. And mister
Perfect Brett, he's gonna strip them.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Children watching this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Uh looks like his a w a days with just
wearing the tights. And he's got that Brett Hitmanhart new
Intercontinental Champion.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He's got that Andre the Giant look going look at
this place. He's going by that. It is a star
is essentially born for real. Yeah, this is like the kickstart.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, there you go. How about that Bret the Hitman
Heart getting it done in Summer Slim nineteen ninety one,
the third greatest match in the history of Summer Slim,
according to WWE. Special thanks to them for the YouTube
channel content with these greatest matches of all time and siege.
This one was just wall the wall coverage with brought
(22:25):
the Hitman Heart versus mister Perfect, mister Perfect being the
Intercontinental title holder at the time with a bad back
by the way, but you kind of really wouldn't know it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, no, he did. He held it in or held
it together, I should say, pretty well. And for the
most part it looked like he was tossing Bred around
for at least like the first half, if not like
the first three quarters of the match. It felt like
it was mister perfect match to be half. Yeah, so
you yeah, you wouldn't have known from the bad back
(22:54):
at all, but definitely the submission hit quick. It felt
like it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Wrapped it up real quickly. Back then, you didn't tap out.
The referee would ask you and then you know, do
you submit and then they really really yeah, tapouts didn't
start until I believe the late nineties.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really yeah, I mean either way, the ref called it immediately,
like it was like he rolled up on him and
it was over. And then it was an extra like
thirty forty seconds of Brett cranking back the submission as
as you know, far as possible. But yeah, for a
long time it looked like mister perfect had it. The
bad back was definitely not really a problem. The coach
(23:34):
constantly waking him up with that stupid whistle. I did
have some lines for.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You, okay, So the best best bet, the best bet award.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Ye, the best bet Award is going to be our
best bet that we can come up with. So I'm
gonna throw in my sports bookie hat here and give
you some lines. The money line. I'm gonna give you
three different bets, by the way, that's what I like
to do usually, the money line for the one. I
had mister Perfect at minus one fifteen. And can you
guess what Brett Hart would be? Is he is? Do
(24:04):
you think he's more of an underdog or more.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Of a favorite? More of a favorite?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, guess what, I've got a surprise for you. They're
both minus one fifteen. Wow, it was. It was a
complete draw going into it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Of course, we didn't know at the time that that
mister Perfect Kurt Henning's back was was in bad shape.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
We didn't again, we don't know this until we again,
no internet conjecture back in those days. It would have
to be like what they called the dirt sheets, you know,
the wrestling magazines. Yes, and some of the wrestling columnists
people of.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
That, people who had like an inside like source.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And they didn't blurt it out on television.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
No, it was more like you had to write it.
You had to be in the know to know kind of, and.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
They didn't do it immediately. Would it had been had
him following.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh yeah, and they wouldn't have known immediately, like because
it wouldn't have been something that I'm assuming mister perfect
would have let out very easily. But both being minus
one fifteen on the money line, yep, the match line
over under? What would you guess the under twenty yet
under twenty? But what would you like? What would you
the match length couldn't be longer than twenty That was
(25:07):
like the limit, So what would you think the over
under would be?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Over under for twenty?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
For the match lengthn't it can't be more than twenty minutes?
But if you were making it, I had the line
at sixteen and a half, so fifteenth is pretty good.
So would you have taken it over or under sixteen
and a half minutes? Under under sixteen and a half
the under was plus one hundred, the over was minus
one twenty, so you're in plus money if you're taking
(25:33):
the under, which I think that they hit. I don't
think that match didn't feel too long. They were talking
about I don't know which commentator said it, but one
of them was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I mean the brain Heenen was essentially trying to make
sure mister Perfect would be able to keep the title
because you know, you'd think time would be running out
so there's no way he can write.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
But I don't think it was even close to twenty
or let alone sixteen at that point. I think it
was under. So I think the underwins your money. There,
the first to hit their finisher, Yeah, I had mister
Perfect with the perfect plex. The perfect plex minus one ten.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Isn't a great move. It is, No one sticks out
of that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, that was a really good move. The soup plex
is a staple and then putting a little spin on
it by grabbing the leg right and making it your
own move and rolling it into almost like a pin right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But essentially it is one because what he does is
he takes his upper he takes his legs, yeah, and
lifts his heels essentially so the top tippy toes of
his feet. So that way there, it gives him more
of the advantage, right yep.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So mister Perfect to hit his finishing move first was
minus one ten, Brett Hart would be plus one thirty
and the shooter. Neither of them to hit a finishing
move in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Was plus two hundred.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think mister Perfect was the first one to hit
the perfect plex, and then I think the sharpshooter came
after Brett originally was trying to hit a sharp shooter
earlier on and I don't think he got it, and
then until the end when he hit it for the win,
he had.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
To essentially well, it became a reversal because Perfect was
taking his boot and he was landing it into his abdomeny.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yees, yeah, yes, So I think mister Perfect won that one.
The money line obviously went to Brett. If you wanted
to bet on Brett, he was he would have been
the winner.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Bet on Brett about that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think the best win out of those three would
have been the under on the match length plus one hundred.
So that's that's your best bet award is the under
on the match length of sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Now, the worst athletic moment. What went terribly wrong? Was
it a choke, a collapse, or just playing bad luck?
Mister Perfect being all tore up, his gear, his gear
all tore up.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think mister Perfect getting pushed around by actually, no,
you know what my most unathletic like the worst excuse me,
worst athletic moment award. I'm gonna give it to the coach.
The coach has got to be it. Him getting knocked
off the side of the apron and then literally he
(27:53):
looked like he was frozen in a Kung Fu move
as he fell off in slow motion like he had
been frozen flying. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
When he hit him, the hat was like like it
had like the little cartoon legs on and took off
like a dust of cloud at his whistle. What was yours?
You said, mister perfect being torn.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Gear all tore up that blue and black kind of
was it a leotard? What are you thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, all all gone there. That's just usually mister
perfect is in pristine, perfect condition. My favorite probably with
him is aesthetic is probably his orange leotard. He has
like an orange and like green or black leotard. He
(28:35):
had several, of course, but that was one of them
that really stood out. So the peak Physical Specimen Specimen
Award who looked like the ultimate athlete, you know, physique, endurance, dominance.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Brett Hart was just I was gonna say, it's got
to be Brett. Brett looked like he was at the
top of his game. This is the kick starting, yeah,
the kickstart of his like legendary solo career and mister
Perfect having that bad back. I mean, he doesn't look
like he's two out of shape, but at the same time,
he almost looks like, not to be rude to any
Mister Perfect fans out there, there's a lot, but he
(29:09):
almost looks like Biff from like Back to the Future,
like the I think it's the haircut maybe, but and
obviously yeah, and obviously here the the and Biff doesn't
even have curly hair. I don't think, but well, but
I just think that, like I don't know, mister Perfect's
got like this like weird like eighties look to him.
(29:32):
It's the nineties and he just doesn't. He looks like
the sloppy villain from a sitcom movie as opposed to
like Brett Hart looks like when you're I don't know,
if you're a kid growing up and you're looking at
Brett Hart, like you said in one of our recent playbacks,
he was your favorite wrestler. It's like if I was
a kid, he'd be my favorite wrestler. Look at the dude.
He looks incredible in there, like and he's beaten the
(29:53):
crab out of mister perfect like without with the ease.
So I mean, he obviously got tossed around at the beginning,
but Brett Hart wins it for me.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Best sports nickname, who had the most legendary nickname, hilarious,
perfectly fitting or all of the above. Do you like
mister perfect?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I do. I will give it to him because that
is that. It's cool. And I was sold when they
when he hit the finisher and they were like the
perfect Plux and I was like, oh, that's a great name.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's a fantastic great name.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like the move is great already, but the name for
it is great. Like like I said, a special move,
a finishing move, whatever you want to call it. There
they're finisher. I don't know. You say it all the time.
Wrestling less is more being like make it mean it
being less complicated, like you don't need to do this
crazy new move, like like I grew up watching like
(30:46):
people like Jeff Hardy, and it's like I get you
want to do like a frog splash three sixty like
no scope make twist Indie nine hundred like you're eight
different video game characters and one you're trying to do
the craziest move ever. But it's like, just take an
take an original move and just put a twist on it,
like the suplex, Like you know, he just took a suplex,
a traditional wrestling move, grabs one made it his own,
(31:09):
grabs one leg while he does it and literally just
makes it his own move. And it's a simple move,
it's effective, and it's got a great name. So uh,
mister perfect definitely wins the award and the perfect the
perfect plex, Yes you like that? Yeah, that's that might
be the top nickname itself. I think they're tied like
Johnsen and Fu. When he started, it became aaf adjustment.
But yes, okay, best Mike Work Award who co talked
(31:33):
the talk, the interviews and or trash talk or sound bites.
This broadcast booth is vast all underrated because again Roddy
Piper wasn't a broadcaster for all that long, but he
was for a little time early nineties, and he was
really good. See, I didn't know he was a broadcaster
at all, like a commentator at all.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was trying to get back into the ring, so
it was a good way to kind.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Of transition or like work his way back, right.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah. So the thing with that is Bobby's the brain
and he would call him Boobs, so you call it
Bobby the Brain. Yeah. So Gorilla mon Soon and Bobby
the Brain heenen. That dynamic is absolutely perfect. And with
those three together, Hot Crowd, Madison Square Garden him to
the Rafter Eat Venue. Yeah, obviously best mic worked there.
I'm gonna say the three man booth. You're going all
(32:17):
three between Gorilla mon Soon, Bobby the Brain heenan, right,
Gorilla the Brain, and the hot Rod.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I'm going okay, Roddy Piper Okay. I think his were
his like quips were specifically the best. Yes, Like I thought,
he was just like high energy, really kept me locked
in and engaged.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm gonna show you a clip after this, I bet this.
After this, I'm going to show you a clip of
when the Manchel King Randy Savage took a scepter and
hit the Ultimate Warrior right between the eyes. It was
Royal Rumble nineteen ninety one. It was Gorilla Monsoon and
(33:01):
Roddy Piper on the call right for the title. This
was ninety one right, Sergeant Slaughter versus the Ultimate Warrior
and I'll hear you'll, I'll I'll play it for you
at some point. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
So after this coolest moment of coost moment award.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The absolute chillis sliicckest moment could have been a celebration,
a walk off, or an icy stare down. The coolest
moment award to me is we get to see Brett
the Hitman. Heart the Star is officially born. He is
coming into his own as the Intercontinental champion. Because remember
he was just a tag team champion with Jim the
Nvil Nightheart and the Heart the Heart Foundation. We didn't
(33:39):
know what would Brett succeed, would sink or swim because
a lot of tag teams, a lot of tag team
sometimes there's.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
A lot of partners. Look at specific look at the
Hardy Boys. They're both Yeah, but even Jeff became more
of it because he won the title. Right but even then,
like I wouldn't be he had the hotter thing going
for Yeah, but I would I still wouldn't even consider
him one of like the I think I love Jeff Hardy.
I grew up watching Jeff and he was like probably
(34:08):
my favorite growing up. But if you take his career separately,
and like obviously his brother's career separately, and they're both
very talented and had great careers, But are they top
ten greatest wrestlers of all time? No, exactly, Like I
feel like great is one of the greatest tag teams
of all time. Yeah, but that's exactly to your point.
It feels like, sometimes you see these these wrestlers leave
(34:30):
their tag team duo, it's not the same Jimmy the
Anvil Nightheart. They can't. He didn't become the solo star
that right, exact talent exactly. Yeah, sometimes they just can't
live up to it. But I think my Coolest Moment
award as well is the same thing as you is. Uh,
the is Brett Hart finally winning the title, not really
getting the monkey off his back because he's just getting
(34:51):
started erect but you know this is the way to
do it, kicking it off the right way and and
and launching his career the way he needs to. That's
the coolest moment.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
And lastly, at age, well, looking back, does it hold
up any context changes? Does it feel cringey?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
This holds up because there's no wasted moves Yep, you
have two ring generals who are great friends. By the way,
they really were. They were great friends. They were best
friends essentially so because they had the same thing in common.
Their parents were wrestlers to or their dad Stu Ran
the Dungeon was in Calgary, the Calgary Stampede Center or
(35:28):
the Calgary Wrestler right in Canada, right Stampede Wrestling.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I don't know if he knows they or not, but
Larry the Axe Henning was a dominant world champion before
his son mister Perfect was in the ring. Yeah, Larry
the Axe Henning was.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Was a big guy, so they both had like some
ties to Yes, they had.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
A second generation thing going on in the Ring's cool
and again, no wasted moves.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Did you see anything in this match?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Think no?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I thought it was quick pace. You know, I will
say no wasted move set. Maybe this isn't my favorite match,
doesn't have to be right. I'm not saying it's not
a good match.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think this is actually one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I don't know if I would have put this s
at third compared to some of like maybe the other ones,
I'd probably still put it in the top twenty five
obviously on the list, but the I feel like the
move sets were much more simple and they made it
mean it. Yes, everything you make it mean it. I
think this match, I think this does age well. I
think that the My one gripe is it went quickly
(36:33):
and it was lots of just tosses. Yeah, but they
weren't being wasted. It wasn't There wasn't a lot of
action until right at the end. I feel like the action.
I think they were just kind of doing a slow burn. Yeah, exactly,
the perfect back.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yes, maybe kind of tested out, you see, because sometimes
you can I don't say choreograph, but hours before when
you enter the arena.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just kind of get get some get some moves walk back.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Then they didn't really.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now we now that we have sports medicine evolving as
it does kind of test how things are and how
they go right. And I actually did actually watch this
live at my dad at the time my dad's no
longer with us, my dad's girlfriend's house at the time
in East Concord or close or in the heights.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Essentially back in nineteen ninety one. Cop the pay per view.
They paid for the pay per view, so we were
able to watch it. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was I mean it was a good one and it
got exciting at the end. Like I said, it was
just a little bit of a summery. This should be
number one. I think it aged well. I think it
the third one of all time. I think Brett, like,
I think Brett's the only reason I say this because
(37:39):
I feel like the match with his brother had a
little more action than this one.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Well, again, Brett was as well established going in a champion.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This is just an older one by three years, right.
But the other thing is is like Brett isn't as
popular in ninety one in this one right as he
will be nineteen ninety four as the guy. So like
I feel like the energy was just a little more
electric against his brother, and that's why it feels a
little slower. But I still think it aged well. I
think it's a great match, very technical, right, like to
(38:08):
the point is what you want match? Yes exactly, there wasn't.
It wasn't as much gimmick as much as they were
telling a story with their move set right exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
And well the reason why I say wasn't this this
and Brett, Well, as I said that that Owen match
wasn't in the main event either because of Undertaker under Faker.
The match made in Hell, as we alluded to earlier,
the tag match between Hogan who was the champ at
the time and the Ultimate Warrior versus Sergeant Slaughter and
Colonel Mustafa Yes, or might have been in General ad
(38:39):
non either two. Anyway, that was the main It was
a tag match, so.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Dog Yeah, I think that does it for the aftermath here,
this one does for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And tonight it is. This is a Saturday. We're ready
to go for Night one of Summer Swim Again Night one.
It's never been in two nights. Yes, that changes Tonight
East for New Jersey and MetLife Stadium Night one. The
two matches I told you I'm looking forward to with
Sammy Zain and uh.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Carrie and Cross the the USO and Roman Range one.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's Roman Reigns and Jay Uso main event, jay USO
taking on the Bronze bron Breaker and Bronson Reid. Also,
I think this should be the main event. It may
not be, but it should be. Goonther that general who
retired Goldberg a few weeks ago. Yes, takes on CM
Punk for the World Heavyweight Championship, Can Punk breakthrough? Can
(39:34):
he finally win the World heavyweight champion something he hasn't
done in a long time.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yes, it's a it's an exciting one. Peacock tonight and
internationally on Netflix. Yes, seven o'clock, I believe. I believe
at seven pm it should be a good one. I'm
going to try and tune in. I'm excited, like I said,
for that USO Roman range. That could be the main
event too. Yeah knows, and maybe we'll have an instaclassic
We'll see, you know what.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That's what I This is why I continue to do
what I do for something of the this magnitude for
these events. A match we're going to do next year.
By the way, I think it was either unforgiven or
no way out. It is a wrestling classic, believe it
or not. Between Kurt Angle, which is not surprising and
the Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Championship, not the Underfaker, No,
(40:17):
the Undertaker. It was an actual, really good athletic as
you don't expect the Undertaker to be that big.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Right, he's a little slower because he's as he's as
big as he is.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Correct, you're not expecting him to essentially, I don't know,
not wipe the floor, but essentially stay in the same
lucidness as Kurt Angle, who's smaller.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Right, but is a wrestler as he, like Undertaker, is
more agile in this match, is what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
No, he keeps up with him. Okay, if you know
what I mean, if you catch my drift. And we
actually did get a request for the raymis Stereo versus
Kurt Angle two thousand and two SummerSlam match, which for
some reason is not on this list, and that it's
a damn shame. Well we'll have to get We're going
to do that.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
If we can get the link, we will do it.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Of course. No, it's there.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And recently recently, in fact, Kurt Angle and Raymisterio did
their own commentary watching cool match.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yesh, maybe we can tag them if you get anyone
out there, you know, can get a hold of Ray
or Kurt when we when we do that episode, make
sure tag them, tag them, tag them, tag them, tag them.
We're going to tag him on social I know, but
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Speaker 3 (41:35):
Is it?
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Speaker 3 (41:36):
Uh? It's Michael's secret stuff from Space jam.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
In this edition of the Playback, Jaydagg and CJ look
back on Brett the Hitman Heart battling WWE Intercontinental Champion
Mister Perfect at WWE SummerSlam, which took place on August
twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one, from Madison Square Garden in
New York City, New York.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The third greatest Summer Slam match of all time according
to w W Special thanks to them, by the way
for the playlist of the greatest Summer Slam matches. And
look at Brett the Hitman Heart right or he is
the contender, He's not the champion. This is for the
intercontinental title. Look at that pink jack.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I was about say, the pink jacket stands out big tame, Yeah,
Brett Rock and the shades, the shades, the full Brett Hart.
Look the classic jade dog. Tell me you had this
outfit when you were a kid.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
I had the I had a black one. I didn't
have the I wanted to put pink on it. You
wanted the pink parents.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
They had his parents at what every event is his
parents there. I feel like every time we're watching them,
his parents are just out here for summer slam.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Stuin Helen.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, very exciting Summer Slam. By the way, tonight on
Peacock this is night one and uh Netflix internationally Peacock US. Yeah,
what time, Jade.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Dog, I believe seven. And there's the coach by the way, John.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Tolos So is named the coach. He's just called the coach. Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, he didn't need one though. That's the thing is
mister Perfect is perfect. He's absolutely perfect. Right there, there's
the towel. He's gonna split the gum out and hit
it to the crowd.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So I don't know mister perfect. Kurt Henning, I don't
know much about, if anything about mister purfect.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Okay, awesome wrestler, one of the best ones to not
win the w w EE Championship. And watch the way
he gets in the RNK.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Love that his belt fell off. What is so he's
wearing the belt here? He's the champion, He's.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
The continental chap right there.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But yeah, but Brett is uh, I mean, Brett's much
more of a prolific wrestler. What an experience for that kid?
Kid gets to leave with Brett hard shades.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yep, gives it to a youngster. Yeah, Roddy Piper.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, and it is the playback, by the way, Yes,
CJ and J Dog here.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Wait you hold on a second. Here, I'm the one
that does that around here, I know, I'm Jay Dog
and CIJ. Whereas bet this is CJ and J Dodge
Madison Square Garden. They are jammed to the rafters, say
nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Paint the picture.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Ja, This was like the third match. I think this
was not the main event on the card.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
I feel like the best ones aren't. It seems to be.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
That way, right. What does that tell you?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah, Well the planning of booking some of these
certain matches, whoever's doing the scheduling, it could be done
a little better.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
The well, they had a match made in Heaven and
a match made in hell in this event as Randy
Mutchellman Savage got married to Miss Elizabeth.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That was this. This was like when that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yes, oh the summer slim, yes, the oh mister perfect
by the way, wearing.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
A blue and black like leotarre, mainly like light blue
like kind of a almost not Columbia blue, but it's
more like a ice lake Okay, with black. Well, he's
he was from Minnesota. The land what is that the
land of a thousand lakes or something? Ten thousand lakes? Thousand,
(04:13):
I mean a thousands a lot.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm multiplying that. Yeah, that's why they have so many
hockey players.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, I'm not surprised. That's why there's a portion.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Ooh, mister Perfect had a bad back in this match,
by the way, not because yeah, not because the takedowns
like that, but as you can see mister Perfect waving
his legs that he was in agony. Yeah, he was
wearing white boots with black mister p on his on
the boots.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Oh did the ref just grab his hair? No, it
looked like the ref grab Brett's hair for a second.
Both gentlemen here grabbing each other.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
The coach blowing the whistle, it's so obnoxious. That's so good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Girlha Monsoon and Bobby the Brain heenen already getting into it.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, Roddy Piper, we're gonna have We're gonna have two
matches going on at once. One's gonna be on the
on the commentator's booth.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Now, the match Made in Hell was Hulk Hogan and
the Ultimate Warrior versus Sergeant Slaughter, who was playing an
Iraqi sympathizer. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Yeah, this was during the Persian Gulf War.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yes, uh, and I believe Colonel Mustafa who was the
iron chic. Okay, yeah, so that was the match made
in Hell. And what was made famous about I think
Sid Justice was the special enforcer, like the referee. What
was what was made special about it was that the
Ultimate Warrior held up the company for a five hundred
(05:49):
thousand dollars appearance fee, which reached his contract.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
What yeah what wait, so he like basically said, I'm
not showing up in less you pay me five hundred
thousand dollars. Yeah, which back then would have been a
stupid amount of money. Like that's a lot of money.
And what year is this, Like, this is nineteen ninety one, okay,
So I mean it was a little later than I
(06:15):
thought it was. I was going to say, like eighty
nine or something like that. But I mean in the nineties,
even then, five hundred thousand dollars, I mean five hundred.
I'd take five hundred thousand dollars right now, but I
mean its value is not what it was like back then.
That would have been you could have boughten three houses
as opposed today, you could probably buy like a house,
probably a sublet, yeah, a studio apartment somewhere.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, Brett, they agreed to pay, but they didn't actually
give him the money because after the match he was fired.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
So but that sounds super illegal too, to be like
we'll pay you, just come work and then as soon
as you're done working, we'll fire you and then we
won't pay you. Like, that's exactly what that sounds like.
What that situation is is this So I haven't seen it,
and you'll have to. You'll have to let me know.
I feel like you've probably right in the gut. Have
(07:06):
you seen the what is it the Ultimate Warrior like
movie or whatever they came out with.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
The DVD, the Rise and Fall of the Ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, there was like a movie where someone it was
almost like a biopic.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
But what was it like it was a dark side
of the ring. No, it was called like nice body slam.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Let me, it's time to get off track and look
it up again.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
This is for the Intercontinental Championship. Mister perfect uh clotheslined
right out of the ring and again his back was
absolutely killing him. Oh, yeah, absolutely take account. That's right,
Bobby the brain. He didn't actually give him some sage
advice right there. As a broadcast journalist and WWE SummerSlam
Tonight night one Saturday, it is the first time it's
(07:53):
going back to back nights in terms of it's the
WrestleMania of the summer. Is mister perfect? Is he gonna cow?
Or he's chicken the eyes out? He's he's leaving there? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
His back is Yeah, Brett ain't done with you?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Oh he is.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
He's literally pulling him apart.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I can't find what I'm looking for, Jay Dog, Yeah,
I thought one of these covers looked like it The
Dark Side of the Ring kind of looks like the
thing I was looking at. But I don't think that is.
I'll have to get back to you. I don't know
what I was thinking of. There's like a documentary or something.
I maybe it was like or it's like a biopic,
I thought, But I can't find what I'm looking for.
(08:39):
I don't think there's a biopic of the Ultimate Warrior.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I feel like there was like a wrestling movie that
came out a couple of years ago, But I'm wrong.
I can't find it, so it must be some Mandela
effect hitting my brain.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh, legal punch, but the ref didn't see it right
to his face, mister perfect.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Mm hm oh, Brett down on the ground, getting on
the canvas, taking a taking a beating here. I think
maybe was this it No.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Kicked him in the ribs right out of the ring.
That is so obnoxious. That whistle, it's funny because I
think Bill Alonso used that for e c W.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
The whistle.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes, you've probably heard it if you've seen old classic
ECW matches. Bill, give it a rest.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
The coach is honestly one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Like he didn't last long either, what.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Would you even call it? Like not a coach, but
like manager, Thank you, that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, Bobby the brain Heenon was mister perfect manager. But
Bobby the brain Heenton decided to get back into broadcast
journalism and occasionally occasionally do do uh like managing. Yeah.
Rick Flair, who would come to the company later in
the year, the uh with the w c W Championship belt.
(10:09):
He took the belt.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
With him when he left.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, they had to pixelate the logo and everything. When
he came to the really because they didn't have the
rights or correct.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Wow, yeah, but you were saying I think we were
talking about this recently. There was like if you have
like a ww whoa who is this guy? Who's who's
getting I think it was the ring keeper the sorry,
the whistle keeps getting blown and it's distracting me. I
keep I'm like, what is what's going on? I keep
forgetting the coaches on the side. Weren't you saying like
(10:41):
if you won like a like say right now, you
were the WWE champion and you whotographer if you wanted
to leave the WWE but you were the champion, would
you take the belt with you? Or is it like
the WWE World Wrestling you can That's what I'm saying, Like,
if you wanted to go to like, let's like okay,
like a like another a competitor. Yeah, I'm not gonna editor,
(11:05):
but like, if if you wanted to go to a competitor, like,
couldn't you take the belt with you? Isn't that like
kind of what Rick Flair did essentially?
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But yeah, but there again, there were TV rights, so
Turner owned w c W, so there was no way
of of that happening they had because USA Network had
WWF at the time.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
So well, nowadays it feels like they're all kind of
more friendly with each other more.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, you can't take the.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, I'm not saying that, you I know that there's
still TV rights and there's still like things like that.
I'm just saying I feel like a lot of the
competitors are more intertwined between different between between different Like
I was thrown right into the turn buckle, like I
feel like, you know, like we were talking about Christian.
(11:57):
Christian was on what like TNA and then went to
back to W E W W w W. Yeah, oh
my god, that was crazy. Yeah, mister perfect out here
trying to put.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
On a wrestling classic. Yeah, this is what it is. Essentially,
it is a wrestling classic. So the.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
But basically what I'm saying is like I feel like
a lot of these guys, the the wrestlers, the ladies too.
I'm assuming they go from like one competitor to another
and back and forth. I feel like it's more intertwined nowadays,
where like the talent can kind of, you know, do
(12:44):
a short stint somewhere and go and do a short
stint somewhere else. You can't.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I mean, it's not a short stint if you're going
to another competitive if you're going to a competitor, you're
going there.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
To Yeah, but how long is a contract? Three to
five years? I'd consider that a short stint in sports,
And well.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
With professional wrestling, you're going from town to town on
the road, and you're on TV every week. There's no
off season.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
No, I know, which feels like a million years. I mean, yeah,
it feels probably more like it probably feels longer because
it's every day. Yeah, but it is still in like
I said, in like the bigger scope of it, like
in sports, it's still three years, has gone for like
five years. I think that to see that's like a
little bit longer. Yeah, like three years is pretty short.
(13:29):
Five years is when it's like all right, like.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
There are both on the top rope. Actually they're on
or about they're on the second No. Oh Brett's tangle,
Oh that could that could have been disaster. You can
break a leg doing that.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Mister Perfect trying to the worst pin I've ever seen,
and now he's fighting the ref because of it. Don't
know that perfect, don't rough? Oh sure, the commentating is great.
This dude. Have you seen this dude in the background
who keeps jumping up and trying to get on camera. No,
(14:09):
you'll point it out.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
You know that roof of the Mecca, you know that's
the mecca. Yeah, that's Madison Square Garden. No, never have you.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, I went one time. I went for a whoa,
you can't drag the hair. You can't do that, flipped
him from his hair. Yeah, the coach again going wild
off the side of the ring and swallow that whistle please.
I went to MSG for a Deaden Company concert. My
first Deaden Company concert ever was the MSG. Oh that
(14:39):
the Mecca, Yeah, and it was on It was a
Halloween Oh geez. It was cool.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Deaden Company and Halloween. That's got to be a that's
got to be a shin dig.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It was wicked cool. We were right next to the
sound like area, yeah, the like sound pit, whatever you
want to call it. And you could see like so
we were aren't that far from the pit, and we
were like pretty close to the pit, and you could
see Bill Walton standing in the crowd because he was
(15:09):
like seven feet tall. He's like the older person, he's
not a little guy. Yeah, So like you could see
him in the pit at the garden, which was really cool.
And also it was Jimmy Fallon's first Grateful Dead concert ever.
He had done like a little like thing on his
show before the concert, YEP, that was basically like, Hey, tonight,
I'm going out to Madison Square Garden. You can see
(15:30):
me at the Grateful Dead concert or whatever. So we
got to see that the next day.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Brett Hart, he's striking a bad back and all mister
Perfect is his his outfit has been torn as shredded.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
But yeah, yeah, but it feels like he's got this
in the bag. Brett, Brett getting absolutely manhandled here.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
So Matches I'm looking forward to for the start tonight
right or oh right back into that turnbuckle.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Perfect just see mister Perfect keeps going after the penny,
won't stop. But Brett is just not gonna bread. Ain't
going down that.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Easy night one. The matches though, Sammy Zain versus Carry
and Cross, because I think those two are kind of
a little rivalry going right there. Roman reigns and Jay
uso versus bron Breaker and Bronson reed, so you get
the bron Braun then going.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
On, there's no way Roman reigns and USO lose that.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Okay, all right, okay, all right. Another one I'm looking
forward to is uh the World Heavyweight Championship match. There's
the perfect plex. Is it enough?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
No? No, no way, Bratt Heart looks like a zombie.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You kicked out of it, muster.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Bike. Those those almost corny like it's not corny, but
it's like almost corny, like the like extra ness of
it from like those eighties like commentators had. I love
it like that extra energy almost.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Oh, World heavy eeight Champion Guther versus c I'm punk.
I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oh that looked like it hurt. Yeah, Gunther versus cmpunk.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, for the World Heavyweight Championship Gunther dring general who
retired Goldberg.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Oh he slid so far. That happened on that last
move that Brett did too. He like went to go
do almost like a backbreaker to him or something, or
like a spinebuster, and then like when he did, he
like slipped off of him. Mister perfect feels. It looks
like he's whoa. That was a huge soup legs. Oh,
(17:53):
come on, the coach in the background blowing the whistle
two fingers up that souplex was huge. Brett, he's wearing
the pink star instead of the pink and black star.
A little roll up, Nope, got the.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Pink and black tights and never Yeah, well, Roddy Piper
is going to take on bro We've already done the
playback for that when we celebrated Bretteart's birthday from WrestleMania.
So yeah, the neck breaker, the neck breaker, no no, no, no, no, no,
(18:32):
Brett became this is when him and well, oh him
and Jim and the Envil night Art had gone their
separate ways after tag teams success. So Brett trying to
be a solo star and there's the elbow.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
One two No, Oh my gosh, this raf needs to
speed it up, buddy.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Red white and blue ropes, and is he gonna get
him with the roll up?
Speaker 3 (19:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:05):
No way, Oh no, I can't. I can't see the
guy now trying to be on TV.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, this dude right here in the yellow Yeah, he's
been doing that since the walkouts.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Oh did you see that he flew into the pole?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Oh my gosh, Roddy is Roddy's working it right now.
I ain't gonna lie. Roddy's Roddy's gonna be up there
for maybe top five best mics of all time.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Kicked him from all yeah, gosh, yep, kick him in
the leg. Look at the way the little lips. Yeah,
I don't think so. No, we're not Yeah, we're not
close to the time limit. It's a twenty minute time limit.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I didn't realize there was a twenty minute time limit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Usually there is. They just don't really talk.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Was he sharpshooter?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
He's about to but coach?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Uh? This ha one flying by coach. Oh he kicked
the white middle rope. Oh my gosh. No, the coach
is down and out.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
He doesn't know where he is.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Coach has no business on the apron. The mic work
is great in this.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Oh that might have been illegal right there where you
hit him.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I feel like, yeah, I feel like there's been a
lot of illegal stuff going on. The hair pulling has
been NonStop, and the ref's like stop pulling the air,
and they're like, okay, oh this ref he is Uh,
(20:52):
he's gonna have a migraine after this. He's been screaming
non and look at this the counter. Look what he's
turned it into. Is this like a Is this like
a sharp shot. He's gonna he's gonna roll into the
sharp shoot right there.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
He taps yeah already and he's still going, oh oh no,
stealing hell and the hearts.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
They approve it's number three on the list, right yeah,
third greatest Summer Slam match of all time. And mister
Perfect Brett, he's gonna strip them.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Children watching this.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Uh looks like his a w a days with just
wearing the tights. And he's got that Brett Hitmanhart new
Intercontinental Champion.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
He's got that Andre the Giant look going look at
this place. He's going by that. It is a star
is essentially born for real. Yeah, this is like the kickstart.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, there you go. How about that Bret the Hitman
Heart getting it done in Summer Slim nineteen ninety one,
the third greatest match in the history of Summer Slim,
according to WWE. Special thanks to them for the YouTube
channel content with these greatest matches of all time and siege.
This one was just wall the wall coverage with brought
(22:25):
the Hitman Heart versus mister Perfect, mister Perfect being the
Intercontinental title holder at the time with a bad back
by the way, but you kind of really wouldn't know it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, no, he did. He held it in or held
it together, I should say, pretty well. And for the
most part it looked like he was tossing Bred around
for at least like the first half, if not like
the first three quarters of the match. It felt like
it was mister perfect match to be half. Yeah, so
you yeah, you wouldn't have known from the bad back
(22:54):
at all, but definitely the submission hit quick. It felt
like it.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Wrapped it up real quickly. Back then, you didn't tap out.
The referee would ask you and then you know, do
you submit and then they really really yeah, tapouts didn't
start until I believe the late nineties.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Really yeah, I mean either way, the ref called it immediately,
like it was like he rolled up on him and
it was over. And then it was an extra like
thirty forty seconds of Brett cranking back the submission as
as you know, far as possible. But yeah, for a
long time it looked like mister perfect had it. The
bad back was definitely not really a problem. The coach
(23:34):
constantly waking him up with that stupid whistle. I did
have some lines for.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
You, okay, So the best best bet, the best bet award.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Ye, the best bet Award is going to be our
best bet that we can come up with. So I'm
gonna throw in my sports bookie hat here and give
you some lines. The money line. I'm gonna give you
three different bets, by the way, that's what I like
to do usually, the money line for the one. I
had mister Perfect at minus one fifteen. And can you
guess what Brett Hart would be? Is he is? Do
(24:04):
you think he's more of an underdog or more.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Of a favorite? More of a favorite?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Well, guess what, I've got a surprise for you. They're
both minus one fifteen. Wow, it was. It was a
complete draw going into it.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Of course, we didn't know at the time that that
mister Perfect Kurt Henning's back was was in bad shape.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
We don't.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
We didn't again, we don't know this until we again,
no internet conjecture back in those days. It would have
to be like what they called the dirt sheets, you know,
the wrestling magazines. Yes, and some of the wrestling columnists
people of.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
That, people who had like an inside like source.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
And they didn't blurt it out on television.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
No, it was more like you had to write it.
You had to be in the know to know kind of, and.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
They didn't do it immediately. Would it had been had
him following.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Oh yeah, and they wouldn't have known immediately, like because
it wouldn't have been something that I'm assuming mister perfect
would have let out very easily. But both being minus
one fifteen on the money line, yep, the match line
over under? What would you guess the under twenty yet
under twenty? But what would you like? What would you
the match length couldn't be longer than twenty That was
(25:07):
like the limit, So what would you think the over
under would be?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Over under for twenty?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
For the match lengthn't it can't be more than twenty minutes?
But if you were making it, I had the line
at sixteen and a half, so fifteenth is pretty good.
So would you have taken it over or under sixteen
and a half minutes? Under under sixteen and a half
the under was plus one hundred, the over was minus
one twenty, so you're in plus money if you're taking
(25:33):
the under, which I think that they hit. I don't
think that match didn't feel too long. They were talking
about I don't know which commentator said it, but one
of them was talking about.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
I mean the brain Heenen was essentially trying to make
sure mister Perfect would be able to keep the title
because you know, you'd think time would be running out
so there's no way he can write.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
But I don't think it was even close to twenty
or let alone sixteen at that point. I think it
was under. So I think the underwins your money. There,
the first to hit their finisher, Yeah, I had mister
Perfect with the perfect plex. The perfect plex minus one ten.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Isn't a great move. It is, No one sticks out
of that.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, that was a really good move. The soup plex
is a staple and then putting a little spin on
it by grabbing the leg right and making it your
own move and rolling it into almost like a pin right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
But essentially it is one because what he does is
he takes his upper he takes his legs, yeah, and
lifts his heels essentially so the top tippy toes of
his feet. So that way there, it gives him more
of the advantage, right yep.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
So mister Perfect to hit his finishing move first was
minus one ten, Brett Hart would be plus one thirty
and the shooter. Neither of them to hit a finishing
move in the first ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Was plus two hundred.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
I think mister Perfect was the first one to hit
the perfect plex, and then I think the sharpshooter came
after Brett originally was trying to hit a sharp shooter
earlier on and I don't think he got it, and
then until the end when he hit it for the win,
he had.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
To essentially well, it became a reversal because Perfect was
taking his boot and he was landing it into his abdomeny.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yees, yeah, yes, So I think mister Perfect won that one.
The money line obviously went to Brett. If you wanted
to bet on Brett, he was he would have been
the winner.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Bet on Brett about that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think the best win out of those three would
have been the under on the match length plus one hundred.
So that's that's your best bet award is the under
on the match length of sixteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Now, the worst athletic moment. What went terribly wrong? Was
it a choke, a collapse, or just playing bad luck?
Mister Perfect being all tore up, his gear, his gear
all tore up.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I think mister Perfect getting pushed around by actually, no,
you know what my most unathletic like the worst excuse me,
worst athletic moment award. I'm gonna give it to the coach.
The coach has got to be it. Him getting knocked
off the side of the apron and then literally he
(27:53):
looked like he was frozen in a Kung Fu move
as he fell off in slow motion like he had
been frozen flying. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
When he hit him, the hat was like like it
had like the little cartoon legs on and took off
like a dust of cloud at his whistle. What was yours?
You said, mister perfect being torn.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Gear all tore up that blue and black kind of
was it a leotard? What are you thinking? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
all right, all all gone there. That's just usually mister
perfect is in pristine, perfect condition. My favorite probably with
him is aesthetic is probably his orange leotard. He has
like an orange and like green or black leotard. He
(28:35):
had several, of course, but that was one of them
that really stood out. So the peak Physical Specimen Specimen
Award who looked like the ultimate athlete, you know, physique, endurance, dominance.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Brett Hart was just I was gonna say, it's got
to be Brett. Brett looked like he was at the
top of his game. This is the kick starting, yeah,
the kickstart of his like legendary solo career and mister
Perfect having that bad back. I mean, he doesn't look
like he's two out of shape, but at the same time,
he almost looks like, not to be rude to any
Mister Perfect fans out there, there's a lot, but he
(29:09):
almost looks like Biff from like Back to the Future,
like the I think it's the haircut maybe, but and
obviously yeah, and obviously here the the and Biff doesn't
even have curly hair. I don't think, but well, but
I just think that, like I don't know, mister Perfect's
got like this like weird like eighties look to him.
(29:32):
It's the nineties and he just doesn't. He looks like
the sloppy villain from a sitcom movie as opposed to
like Brett Hart looks like when you're I don't know,
if you're a kid growing up and you're looking at
Brett Hart, like you said in one of our recent playbacks,
he was your favorite wrestler. It's like if I was
a kid, he'd be my favorite wrestler. Look at the dude.
He looks incredible in there, like and he's beaten the
(29:53):
crab out of mister perfect like without with the ease.
So I mean, he obviously got tossed around at the beginning,
but Brett Hart wins it for me.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Best sports nickname, who had the most legendary nickname, hilarious,
perfectly fitting or all of the above. Do you like
mister perfect?
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I do. I will give it to him because that
is that. It's cool. And I was sold when they
when he hit the finisher and they were like the
perfect Plux and I was like, oh, that's a great name.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's a fantastic great name.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like the move is great already, but the name for
it is great. Like like I said, a special move,
a finishing move, whatever you want to call it. There
they're finisher. I don't know. You say it all the time.
Wrestling less is more being like make it mean it
being less complicated, like you don't need to do this
crazy new move, like like I grew up watching like
(30:46):
people like Jeff Hardy, and it's like I get you
want to do like a frog splash three sixty like
no scope make twist Indie nine hundred like you're eight
different video game characters and one you're trying to do
the craziest move ever. But it's like, just take an
take an original move and just put a twist on it,
like the suplex, Like you know, he just took a suplex,
a traditional wrestling move, grabs one made it his own,
(31:09):
grabs one leg while he does it and literally just
makes it his own move. And it's a simple move,
it's effective, and it's got a great name. So uh,
mister perfect definitely wins the award and the perfect the
perfect plex, Yes you like that? Yeah, that's that might
be the top nickname itself. I think they're tied like
Johnsen and Fu. When he started, it became aaf adjustment.
But yes, okay, best Mike Work Award who co talked
(31:33):
the talk, the interviews and or trash talk or sound bites.
This broadcast booth is vast all underrated because again Roddy
Piper wasn't a broadcaster for all that long, but he
was for a little time early nineties, and he was
really good. See, I didn't know he was a broadcaster
at all, like a commentator at all.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
He was trying to get back into the ring, so
it was a good way to kind.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Of transition or like work his way back, right.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah. So the thing with that is Bobby's the brain
and he would call him Boobs, so you call it
Bobby the Brain. Yeah. So Gorilla mon Soon and Bobby
the Brain heenen. That dynamic is absolutely perfect. And with
those three together, Hot Crowd, Madison Square Garden him to
the Rafter Eat Venue. Yeah, obviously best mic worked there.
I'm gonna say the three man booth. You're going all
(32:17):
three between Gorilla mon Soon, Bobby the Brain heenan, right,
Gorilla the Brain, and the hot Rod.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I'm going okay, Roddy Piper Okay. I think his were
his like quips were specifically the best. Yes, Like I thought,
he was just like high energy, really kept me locked
in and engaged.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm gonna show you a clip after this, I bet this.
After this, I'm going to show you a clip of
when the Manchel King Randy Savage took a scepter and
hit the Ultimate Warrior right between the eyes. It was
Royal Rumble nineteen ninety one. It was Gorilla Monsoon and
(33:01):
Roddy Piper on the call right for the title. This
was ninety one right, Sergeant Slaughter versus the Ultimate Warrior
and I'll hear you'll, I'll I'll play it for you
at some point. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
So after this coolest moment of coost moment award.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The absolute chillis sliicckest moment could have been a celebration,
a walk off, or an icy stare down. The coolest
moment award to me is we get to see Brett
the Hitman. Heart the Star is officially born. He is
coming into his own as the Intercontinental champion. Because remember
he was just a tag team champion with Jim the
Nvil Nightheart and the Heart the Heart Foundation. We didn't
(33:39):
know what would Brett succeed, would sink or swim because
a lot of tag teams, a lot of tag team
sometimes there's.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
A lot of partners. Look at specific look at the
Hardy Boys. They're both Yeah, but even Jeff became more
of it because he won the title. Right but even then,
like I wouldn't be he had the hotter thing going
for Yeah, but I would I still wouldn't even consider
him one of like the I think I love Jeff Hardy.
I grew up watching Jeff and he was like probably
(34:08):
my favorite growing up. But if you take his career separately,
and like obviously his brother's career separately, and they're both
very talented and had great careers, But are they top
ten greatest wrestlers of all time? No, exactly, Like I
feel like great is one of the greatest tag teams
of all time. Yeah, but that's exactly to your point.
It feels like, sometimes you see these these wrestlers leave
(34:30):
their tag team duo, it's not the same Jimmy the
Anvil Nightheart. They can't. He didn't become the solo star
that right, exact talent exactly. Yeah, sometimes they just can't
live up to it. But I think my Coolest Moment
award as well is the same thing as you is. Uh,
the is Brett Hart finally winning the title, not really
getting the monkey off his back because he's just getting
(34:51):
started erect but you know this is the way to
do it, kicking it off the right way and and
and launching his career the way he needs to. That's
the coolest moment.
Speaker 1 (34:58):
And lastly, at age, well, looking back, does it hold
up any context changes? Does it feel cringey?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
This holds up because there's no wasted moves Yep, you
have two ring generals who are great friends. By the way,
they really were. They were great friends. They were best
friends essentially so because they had the same thing in common.
Their parents were wrestlers to or their dad Stu Ran
the Dungeon was in Calgary, the Calgary Stampede Center or
(35:28):
the Calgary Wrestler right in Canada, right Stampede Wrestling.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I don't know if he knows they or not, but
Larry the Axe Henning was a dominant world champion before
his son mister Perfect was in the ring. Yeah, Larry
the Axe Henning was.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Was a big guy, so they both had like some
ties to Yes, they had.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
A second generation thing going on in the Ring's cool
and again, no wasted moves.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Did you see anything in this match?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Think no?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I thought it was quick pace. You know, I will
say no wasted move set. Maybe this isn't my favorite match,
doesn't have to be right. I'm not saying it's not
a good match.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I think this is actually one of my favorites.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I don't know if I would have put this s
at third compared to some of like maybe the other ones,
I'd probably still put it in the top twenty five
obviously on the list, but the I feel like the
move sets were much more simple and they made it
mean it. Yes, everything you make it mean it. I
think this match, I think this does age well. I
think that the My one gripe is it went quickly
(36:33):
and it was lots of just tosses. Yeah, but they
weren't being wasted. It wasn't There wasn't a lot of
action until right at the end. I feel like the action.
I think they were just kind of doing a slow burn. Yeah, exactly,
the perfect back.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yes, maybe kind of tested out, you see, because sometimes
you can I don't say choreograph, but hours before when
you enter the arena.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Just kind of get get some get some moves walk back.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Then they didn't really.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Now we now that we have sports medicine evolving as
it does kind of test how things are and how
they go right. And I actually did actually watch this
live at my dad at the time my dad's no
longer with us, my dad's girlfriend's house at the time
in East Concord or close or in the heights.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Essentially back in nineteen ninety one. Cop the pay per view.
They paid for the pay per view, so we were
able to watch it. Hell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
was I mean it was a good one and it
got exciting at the end. Like I said, it was
just a little bit of a summery. This should be
number one. I think it aged well. I think it
the third one of all time. I think Brett, like,
I think Brett's the only reason I say this because
(37:39):
I feel like the match with his brother had a
little more action than this one.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Well, again, Brett was as well established going in a champion.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
This is just an older one by three years, right.
But the other thing is is like Brett isn't as
popular in ninety one in this one right as he
will be nineteen ninety four as the guy. So like
I feel like the energy was just a little more
electric against his brother, and that's why it feels a
little slower. But I still think it aged well. I
think it's a great match, very technical, right, like to
(38:08):
the point is what you want match? Yes exactly, there wasn't.
It wasn't as much gimmick as much as they were
telling a story with their move set right exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
And well the reason why I say wasn't this this
and Brett, Well, as I said that that Owen match
wasn't in the main event either because of Undertaker under Faker.
The match made in Hell, as we alluded to earlier,
the tag match between Hogan who was the champ at
the time and the Ultimate Warrior versus Sergeant Slaughter and
Colonel Mustafa Yes, or might have been in General ad
(38:39):
non either two. Anyway, that was the main It was
a tag match, so.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Dog Yeah, I think that does it for the aftermath here,
this one does for sure.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
And tonight it is. This is a Saturday. We're ready
to go for Night one of Summer Swim Again Night one.
It's never been in two nights. Yes, that changes Tonight
East for New Jersey and MetLife Stadium Night one. The
two matches I told you I'm looking forward to with
Sammy Zain and uh.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Carrie and Cross the the USO and Roman Range one.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It's Roman Reigns and Jay Uso main event, jay USO
taking on the Bronze bron Breaker and Bronson Reid. Also,
I think this should be the main event. It may
not be, but it should be. Goonther that general who
retired Goldberg a few weeks ago. Yes, takes on CM
Punk for the World Heavyweight Championship, Can Punk breakthrough? Can
(39:34):
he finally win the World heavyweight champion something he hasn't
done in a long time.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yes, it's a it's an exciting one. Peacock tonight and
internationally on Netflix. Yes, seven o'clock, I believe. I believe
at seven pm it should be a good one. I'm
going to try and tune in. I'm excited, like I said,
for that USO Roman range. That could be the main
event too. Yeah knows, and maybe we'll have an instaclassic
We'll see, you know what.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
That's what I This is why I continue to do
what I do for something of the this magnitude for
these events. A match we're going to do next year.
By the way, I think it was either unforgiven or
no way out. It is a wrestling classic, believe it
or not. Between Kurt Angle, which is not surprising and
the Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Championship, not the Underfaker, No,
(40:17):
the Undertaker. It was an actual, really good athletic as
you don't expect the Undertaker to be that big.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Right, he's a little slower because he's as he's as
big as he is.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Correct, you're not expecting him to essentially, I don't know,
not wipe the floor, but essentially stay in the same
lucidness as Kurt Angle, who's smaller.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Right, but is a wrestler as he, like Undertaker, is
more agile in this match, is what it sounds like.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
No, he keeps up with him. Okay, if you know
what I mean, if you catch my drift. And we
actually did get a request for the raymis Stereo versus
Kurt Angle two thousand and two SummerSlam match, which for
some reason is not on this list, and that it's
a damn shame. Well we'll have to get We're going
to do that.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
If we can get the link, we will do it.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Of course. No, it's there.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh okay.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
And recently recently, in fact, Kurt Angle and Raymisterio did
their own commentary watching cool match.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yesh, maybe we can tag them if you get anyone
out there, you know, can get a hold of Ray
or Kurt when we when we do that episode, make
sure tag them, tag them, tag them, tag them, tag them.
We're going to tag him on social I know, but
everyone else spam spam the tags, spam the tags. I
was doing a good job. I know you're tired. An't you?
Speaker 1 (41:32):
I am what's in What is in that drink?
Speaker 3 (41:35):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Uh? It's Michael's secret stuff from Space jam.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
For Trout, oh boy, but I know it's gonna do
it for the playback for this edition More on the
Way Saturday. Yep, this is tonight. This is tonight for
Summer Slam w W E. And again we're not paid
by Summer w W We're not. Okay, this is just
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to talk about.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
As you know, I'm older than you and I've watched
more wrestling than you have, and I didn't ever have
a time where I didn't stop watching. Right. There might
have been times where I was like, Okay, it's wrestling,
but I was still It's still in the vernacular in
the blood.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
For me, and it has been since I stay up
to date with the news. But I took more of
a hiatus.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yes, it did. You took a long hiatus, yeah, from
previous editions of the playback. Yeah, you've been talking about that.
So now I bet this continues as is every single week.
We have an addition, We're going to be doing a
fantasy football edition at some point We're going to be
previewing the twenty twenty five NFL season in September. Every
single Monday is going to be a classic Monday night
(42:40):
football game. Look for that Game six of the nineteen
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that's going to be launched on that date to celebrate
fifty years five oh five. Oh, we're not celebrating forty
five years of that show too close for comfort, We're
not doing that. Something completely different anyway. We're doing that
(43:04):
as well, all six games of the nineteen ninety five
World Series because this guy likes to torture me. Because
we know that the Cleveland Guardians are not going to
be winning the World Series this.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Year, not after what happened a couple of days. Yeah,
more like cash out, more like crash out.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
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Network and Get that reality podcasts, as well as this
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Speaker 3 (43:31):
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how it's a damn shame the main event of two
thousand and one in Summer Slam is vastly underrated. It
did not make the list of the twenty five greatest
(44:25):
SummerSlam matches of all time. Booker t the WCW World
Champion taking on the Rock in the main event of
SummerSlam two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
We're gonna have.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's the one that's gonna be coming up on Sunday,
and we're gonna preview some matches for Night two of
WWE Summer Slam. See you, I think you should take
us home.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
It is time to head out a jade dog. I'm
gonna let them know. Yeah, beteads. If you're going to bet,
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