The Playback #23---Monday Night Football Classics---Chicago Bears at Miami Dolphins---1985

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is a production of the Pulse podcast Network.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
In this edition of the Playback, Ja Dug and CJ
look at Perfection Tony the Chicago Bears based the Miami
Dolphins on December second, nineteen eighty five, from the Miami
Orange Pool in Miami, Florida.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
A reigning, defending undisputed AFC champion of the Miami Dolphins
and also the arbiters of the only undefeated season and
from start to finish in NFL history, trying to stop
another team of destiny in nineteen eighty five, the Chicago Bears.
So there's a lot of history here, siege between not

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just the Bears, but the Dolphins as well. Because the
Dolphins Steve Fuller is, by the way, going to be
the quarterback. Jim McMahon. I guess is he injured or
is he kind of come are they? Are they going
to do a quarterback carousel?

Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'm not sure? Okay, Walter Payton the running back here
for the Chicago Bears, that eighty five team.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Dennis McKinnon. I have his starting line of action figure,
you know, Jim Covert, the Hall of Famer, by the way.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Keith van Horn, that's a Hall of fame name. I
feel like I'm pretty sure I've heard that name before.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
You've heard the basketball Keith van Horn.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
That's where I'm Yeah, that's h.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
O rny here, that's a New Jersey nets. Yes, Keith
van Horn. That's right different van Horn. Yes, yeah, Jim
Covert's by the way, his starting lineup actually, figure from
nineteen eighty nine is hard to come by.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Dennis McKinnon not a good start here for the Bears.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Fuller, he's full of something.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Was that? Was that a fumble? Technically? Was that backwards?

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah? I think the rules were a little different. The
Orange Bowl, by the.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Way, Yeah, I know, the Orange Bowl, not hard Rock Stadium. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
What's the Orange Bowl now?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
It is Lone Depot Park in Miami, home of the Marlins.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Really yep, Oh, I didn't know that they.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Tore up the Orange Bowl to make up a ballpark.
Oh okay, that the city didn't want, by God.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Anyway, I still think it's a good idea because I
like hard rock, Like, I think hard Rock's a cool stadium.
It's designed perfectly for Like, have you ever noticed hard
Rock is designed so that during like the beginning of
the season, when it's hotter out. The sun will shine
longer on the opponent's sideline than it does on the
home sideline to try and keep the home team cooler,

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and the away team has to sit in the sun
on the sideline to try and stay cool. Or I'm
they're not staying cool. It's hot out usually in Miami,
but that's crazy. Chicago Bears Monday Night record five and
eleven in zho to eight away. Not a good statistic
at this time.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Nope.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, since nineteen eighty five, passing game isn't as good
as it is today.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Don't tell Dan Marino that I know. Marino's the reigning
I believe MVP of the eighty four season.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
He was the What was his title? Was he the King?
Didn't he have like a like a title like the
King or something like that. Did he have any nicknames?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Dan Marino? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:42):
Was it just Dan Marino? Where people just walk around
and go, that's Dan Marino. Daniel Marino laces out Dan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
They moved into Joe Robbie Stadium now known as hard
Rock Stadium in nineteen eighty seven, by the.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Way, oh so shortly after this.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yes, because this is the eighty five season, yes, Wayne
Heizenga who owned the Dolphins, you know Heizinga.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'm excited to see this Miami team. See Dan Marino,
Don shul Hall of Famer. Look at right there, Dan,
all right, look at those stats. You ever next time
you go to Florida, if you ever get the chance
to go to Orlando. It's actually I think they're closing
it and putting in a new restaurant. But there's a
restaurant called Shula's Steakhouse. Yeah, and I Mark's brothers, Mark
Duper and Mark Clayton. I went there when I graduated college,

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when I got my degree because my school was like
down in winter Park, and so we went to Disney
afterwards and me and my family went out.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
To Shula's Schule's Steakhouse.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
They had the best. It was like this appetizer like
fries or it was like shrimp in like a like
a cast iron pan they brought to the table. Was
really good, and the steak was amazing. Obviously, Marino airing
it out early. You said, the brothers out there, Marx brothers,
Mark Duper and Mark Clayton, the Marx brothers, the Marx brothers.
I can get down with that.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
That was their nickname here colloquial.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
And I also I like a good tandem, like a
wide receiver team. It's almost like in basketball too, when
you have like a like a hot duo, but basketball
evolved into like a you almost need like a big three,
yes to win a championship.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Now, yeah, the Chicago Bears defense was not to be
messed with in the nineteen eighty That is true. Yes,
it's all you hear about is nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yes, well, that's what I wanted to say, is this
is you know, any real football fans out there have
probably heard, despite how older young you are, you've probably
heard of the nineteen eighty five Bears as one of
the best football teams of all time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
And the seventy two Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yes, of course. So the only the only.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Vestige left on the seventy two Dolphins team is the
head coach, the late great Don Shulo. Yes, yeah, you
know where uh you know where uh Marino.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
With the college right, No, I don't have to Pittsburgh
really from Pittsburgh. So see, it was interesting. It's interesting
that Marino ended up with Miami because I feel like
before Marino came to town, Miami was just all running
all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
They had Dan Hampton, Steve Mott, the late great Steve Mango,
McMichael look at Refrigerator, Perry Richard Dent, Wow Leslie Dave Dorson,
who was the subject I believe of Concussion the movie,
Really believe he was.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Yeah, I haven't seen that though. Are you talking about
the one with like Will Smith.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Or Dudley truth Mont Yes, truth, I saw that movie
in theaters.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
By the way, I still haven't seen it. I'm a
big Will Smith guy too. As you were saying, well,
it's interesting that Marino ended up with the Dolphins because
I feel like before he came to town and again,
I'm younger than you. Know, there's Jim McMahon right there.

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I'm younger than you Yeah. Why is he top rated
passer in the NFC? Is it because it's the Is
that how many? By the way, how many games were
in the season. This was a sixteen game season. So
why is he sitting as he said, he's not suspended,
is he? I don't know. He suited up. Yeah. But anyways, again,

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Dan Marino, it's weird that he ended up with Miami boys.
A lot of they had a lot of good running
backs before him, like going back to the seventy like
yeah and stuff like that. You know, they were known
for their running. So like before Marino, it wasn't really
like they had a crazy good quarterback.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
At Bob Greasy.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, they had Bob Greasy, but Marino like elevated passing
correct you know, and changed the passing game. And and
the Dolphins, like I said, for a long time, were
known for their running.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
The Dolphins. The Dolphins had been in the Super Bowl
that season, well.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
In the the.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Eighty two season. He was drafted in eighty three.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, so I'm yeah, I'm not saying the Dolphins
were bad anything.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Well, they had one position that was obviously glaring and
it showed in the Super Bowl. And guess what position
that was.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I'm assuming his quarterback.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
It was the quarterback position.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yeah, so I mean Marino was necessary. He obviously he
ends up leading the Dolphins to another Super Bowl, but
can never get the job done.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
The eighty four season, they get there and you're thinking
when they lose to the forty nine ers, oh, you're
gonna see this every year. It never happened. Yeah, I
feel terrible about that.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
D Yeah, Dan Marino is from discussions I've had with
football like gurus and people before me, is Dan Marino
is the greatest quarterback to never win a Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Might be up there.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
You know there's been because you think about all the
greats that have been just think about since I was born,
since ninety for about all the great quarterbacks that there
have been.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It wasn't that long ago.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
No, No, I'm just saying, like, but there's been a
lot of good quarterbacks, but almost all of the ones
that you consider like top tier, they've won a.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Super Bowl at least one.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, Like Drew Brees won a Super Bowl, Peyton Manning
one too. And guess what, Dan Marino with a short
pass and the wide receiver makes short work of it,
takes it all the way down.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Not more, not more? Yeap, not less is more?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yep, there's a little checkdown, almost a little dump off.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
So we've got Frank Gifford on play by play, as
well as Joe Willie Namath, who would go to NBC
the next year, though not even as a number one
analyst because the number one analyst in the eighty five
for NBC. In eighty six the number one and dick
Enberg was the top play by play guy for football.
You know, oh my, and you have Merlin Olsen, the

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late great Arland Olson.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah. But just because you're a football player, and just
because you're the you could be the best football player.
And like Tom Brady, he's not the best commentator, and
he's got a little he's got some Well you heard
about that, right, What about all the conflict of interest? Yeah?
Well I thought that they would just stick with how
they had it last year, where he was commentating and

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not going to these meetings, because that's like last year
he was doing that, so why change it? And this
year they were like, now you can go to the
production meetings, you just don't be there in person.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Monday night foot no I'm talking, well, yeah, he was
in the booth. He was in the booth on Monday
night football. Last week's game, the second game of the
doubleheader between the Charlie Chows Yes and the Raiders. The
camera peaks up right up there, and guess who's got
a headset on? Thomas Edward Brady with a headset like
he's the new Indianapolis Colts co owner. Yes, And the
thing is is Willy Galt, Dennis Gentry. The thing is is.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
He has to like he meets with like the Bears
or something, right, and then two weeks later he plays
the Bears, but he's gonna meet with the Bears in
a production meeting and then you know or whatever, and
then he's gonna what's stopping him from literally talking to
the offense and being like, yeah, two weeks ago when
I met with the Bears, they were running this play

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out of this formation or whatever, you know what I mean. Like,
and maybe it's on the coaches that he meets with
to not leak all their information, but it's so bad.
But at the same time, why would the NFL allow.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's a minefield of like.

Speaker 3 (11:32):
And it's like, out of everyone that's ever been involved
with the NFL, I feel like no one has had
more controversy than Tom Brady. Like I feel like Tom
Brady has been tied to so many scandals, not like
maybe him specifically, maybe his organization, Yes, but he was

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still tied to it. So it's like him, why would
he think of out O one. He wasn't part of Spike,
but it doesn't matter. He's still tied to.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
It because team, the team he was on was certainly
a part of spy Gates.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
I'm just saying he's already just been associated with so
much controversial like, why would you even put yourself or
your team in risk.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Of what a pass? Huh woh wow.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Maybe McMahon doesn't need to come in fuller, just absolutely
leaving me speechless with a bomb. Yeah, almost from his
own end zone.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
That was Willy Galt. Yep, Super Bowl Shuffle, Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Shuffling their way from their own twenty pretty much to
the other twenty flip in the field.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You've seen this, You've seen the video for this embarrassing,
embarrassing Willie Galt. He can play football, he can't dance.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
You weren't You weren't hitting the Super Bowl Shuffle.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I'm a Green Bay Packers guy, so I'm more than
happy that the Bears have only cashed it in once.
I was a little when that happened, so I didn't
care because I didn't get into football until I was ten.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
They had that, well, is there one shining moment? They
won in the They won, and they won in the eighties.
I almost mixed them up with the Packers. The Packers
won in the nineties, but the they made it back in.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
What the sixth season, which is seven six. The Super
Bowl itself was played in two thousand and seven against
the Colts in Miami in the same city, not the
same venue, same city though. That was the Prince halftime
Show Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I remember, well, I remember the thing I remember
about it. It was the Devin Hester kick return. Like
he opened up the Super Bowl with the kick returns
for a touchdown and then that was pretty much it
for the Bears. It was Peyton Manning went to work.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
It was raining too, if you remember, Yeah, yep, there's debtcare.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
I almost enjoyed seeing the Bears just get the kick
return because it's like, I don't really care for the Bears,
but I like Devin Hester. He's cool. You know that
dude was probably one of the most electrifying players I've
ever watched play football.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Growing up.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
It was like Dante Hall, who was like the human
X factor or the human joystick whatever they call Yeah,
and then Devin Hester like took that role and just
literally no one's ever been a returner like Devin Hester.
Maybe you have a different opinion because you watched, like,
what did you see like Dion play in like the nineties. Yeah,

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and like he was probably an electric.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
He was, but especially during his Santa Francisco days, which
of course was only one one year.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Yeah, but he wasn't. He was nowhere compared to Devin Hester.
I feel like as a returner, now, Dion one of
the greatest athletes ever.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I believe it was a Monday night football game between
the Cowboys and the Giants. I'm pretty sure where he
got a kickoff return for a touchdown where it looked
like he was like dead in the water three four times,
and again he wasn't. He wasn't at his apps because
again this is the late nineties, so his absolute speed
wasn't as there as it would be in the early

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nineties for sure, but he made it, yeah, because he
had the Again, he didn't have his chin strap on.
His Nike gloves were not strapped. So I think he
just like got into the.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Game, you know, showed up to the stadium and just
thrown right out there.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
No that that play. Yeah, yeah, because when.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
He was when he was well and I know I'm
being I'm right.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
When he became cornerback, like a couple of plays later,
strap was on, Yeah, as were the Yeah. So again
I think Beary Switzer just.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
Said yeah, literally ran out there, caught the ball and
just took off.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Ram time.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
The Bears knocking on the door, but.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
On the shoal of the all time winning coach in
NFL history.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
These are two great coaches. Think about the match up
here because yeah, Don Shula greatest like winning coach. Yeah
he has what the most wins, yes, but not the
what is it? Madden has the best percentage?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Yes, I believe. So yeah is up there though.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh yeah, my dad got to meet Dicko one time
back in the eighties. I think the Bears were playing
the Patriots or something, and he met him like on
the concourse at like the at like Foxborough Stadium or whatever,
the old stadium.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
It was probably Schaefer's Stadium at the time.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
I mean, yeah, I don't know exactly what it was,
but he said he met him. He like turned around
and Mike Dicka was standing right in his face and
he just looked up. My dad's like five five six now, yeah,
so like when he was a teenager, probably a little
even shorter than that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Here comes the refrigerator. Refrigerator Perry, I love this be'st
nickname out of all right, now.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
So you want to know something. Yeah, you know, you know,
I'm a big video game nerd. When I think it
was two thousand and like thirteen or fourt or no,
maybe it was like twenty fifteen somewhere around there, when
the Xbox One came out they released Madden twenty five.
It was this ann of very mad and not Madden

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twenty five, like the year quarterback sneak and it looks
like Fuller's in. They brought Perry in for no reason.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
No, they brought him in for the essentially like almost
like a toush Bush if well, if need be, in
terms of bringing refrigerator in there as as like oh
yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So Steve Fuller he gets in there.
So it's weird seeing a guy number four for the
for the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
This kicker. Look at this kicker's gear. What is this
dude with one bar? He's got the one bar, but
that's not even what he's It's the eighties. I've never
seen like anyone with like cut off sleeves in the eighties,
like everyone had long sleeves on their jerseys. He's got
cut off sleeves in a one bar on his on
his helmet.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's good tied up in the Orange Bowl int of Miami,
you were saying when it came to Oh.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah, so the it was Madden twenty five, right, yeah,
And they had this cool feature where you could actually
recreate a player's career and you could recreate William Perry
as a running back, like make his whole career a
running back instead of being obviously he's known for the
big touchdown in the Super Bowl in eighty five, but

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so because the Bears would use him, like you said,
as a ruse or as a running back. But it
was cool because you could recreate his whole career as
just a running back as Miami almost gone coast to
coast with the kick return. Makes it happen. Lorenzo Hampton,
that's a running name. That's like a almost like a

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running backs name. Lorenzo Hampton. This dude was built for speed.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Look at the way he's just able to kind of
cut them.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh yeah, he's not even like making big cuts. It's
just made that one cut.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
In that theah.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
That's a lot and special teams work.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yet not the you.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
He's in Miami, but he's not playing. He's laid up
in Gainesville.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's right. Yeah, Gainesville. Is that North Florida? Or is
that south?

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, it's like North Florida. It's a little it's like
west of Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Well, Tallahassee is that.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
That's like I think on the panhands. Okay, I'm actually
not sure. No, maybe I'm thinking of Pensacola, but I'm
not sure. Actually Tallahassee. No, excuse me, Tallahassee, I'm wrong.
Is South Florida. It's not as south as Miami, but
I'm pretty sure it's South Florida.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, Frank Gifford doing play by play? Is it's weird
because we've heard Keith Jackson, We've heard al Michaels. Yes,
we've heard Mike Turrico. Frank Gifford, known for playing for
the New York Football Giants back in the day. He
had that devastating injury. Yes, you've probably seen the picture
of it.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
The Frank Gifford injury. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, yep. It's
interesting because how often do we get like two former
football plays like you were saying, it's I mean al
Michaels is a broadcast on the right. Often we get
a player doing a play by play. They're usually the

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like the analyst or the commentator the action, the action
action they're not doing like play play by play.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, she as you know Gifford what ended up being
an action analyst alongside Dan Dierdorf when Al Michaels came
into do Monday Night football for ye for years. Absolutely,
And of course we all know who Frank Gifford was
married to, right, No, I don't know Kathy Lee with
Regis and Kathy.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I didn't realize that he was married to her. Yes,
Oh interesting, yep. Marino throwing it to four Chicago Bears.
None of them can make a catch.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Be careful, don't throw. Don't throw to those guys. Dan Hampton,
by the way, his name was the Animal Dan. I
have his starting line of action figure as.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Well a penalty on the Bears rugged.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
You do know that. But the eighty five Bears were
not able to be recognized at the White House in
nineteen eighty six. You do know why what happened? Right? No,
the Krista mccauliffe and the shuttle was on the same day. Really,
the Bears had to go back. Yeah, they couldn't go
to the White House. It wasn't until it wasn't until

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It wasn't until twenty ten when President former Well now
well former president at the time he was President President Obama,
a Chicago guy, recognized them.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Cool. I didn't know that the nineteen seventy.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Two Dolphins were not recognized either because of Richard Nixon's idiosyncrasies,
if you will, President Obama, because Don Shula was still
alive and you had a lot of members of the
nineteen seventy two Dolphins would won that Super Bowl in
seventy three were still time being honored by President Obama
as well?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Was that the same day? Like he didn't do them
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
No, wanted to make sure they had each had their
own like own attention. Yes, is that unbelievable. That's cool.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I didn't realize that.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
So both of these two teams that you're looking at
were star crossed in the sense of with like national
tragedy for one and the.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Other one national embarrassment.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Correct, How dare you talk about me like that? I'm
going to honor those Miami Dolphins if it's the last
thing I do.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Well, make sure we popped champagne every year for the
Miami Dolphins seventy two. We'll remember. Take that two thousand
and seven New England Patriots.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
You know the year if Dick Nixon passed away? Right? No,
when was it nineteen ninety four?

Speaker 3 (22:34):
Really?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yep? Yeah, remember, like it was yesterday. At my dad's
house over the weekend, we're watching ABC because we didn't
have any cable, right because ABC was one of those
free channel, free channels you got to have. In fact,
the four free channels we had were PBS, which was
channel two, Channel eight, which was ABC in Maine, Channel

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nine right, ABC in New Hampshire, and channel eleven PBS.
So four actually five channels, ABC channel five in Boston
as well, so.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Three ABC channels and two BBS's two PBS. Yes, so uh,
that's like the third time Dan's got them to jump
off sides. That's got it. Did they not call that?

Speaker 1 (23:25):
They didn't call it. It looked like they were off
the two players which stepped at the same time. So
we're watching and it was Peter Jennings saying that, you
know they again they were giving the coverage if if
Nixon was still alive, so I can tell my dad
he should be okay. Five seconds after I say that,

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they break in, Wow, former President Richard Nixon has passed
away at the age in your Bilinda, California. So yeah,
so I jinxed the whole entire Yeah, so I shouldn't
have said nothing.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Kick us up, Miami takes the lead.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Where's Snowflake the Dolphin?

Speaker 3 (24:04):
By the way, I am what is it? What is
the line? He's like, I'm looking for Ray Finkel and
a clean pair of shorts. I've got to mister, that
movie is so good. I have a Ray Finkel jersey.

(24:25):
I should have brought it today. Laces out, Dan, I
didn't even think about it. Actually, I have the Ray
Finkel jersey at home.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
I know lace is out, Dan. Where is Ray Finkel? Anyway?
Must be injured, right.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
I Ray Finkel probably doing twenty.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Five to life, not eighty five.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, true, not in eighty five, but he works it
out close to the twenty five card line.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Frank Gifford.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Gifford's got a good voice. I kind of like it because.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
What he would do is he would also as we
saw earlier, he would there's Walter Payton.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
The sweetness isn't that? It isn't that? As isn't it is? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:12):
He would become the all time leading rusher for years,
for years, it looked like Barry Sanders, another NFC North
or NFC Central guy was going to surpass him. Of course,
he didn't end up being EMMITTT.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Smith, and EMITTT. Smith still holds that record.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
So this very day at press time here in twenty
twenty five, and it doesn't look like and he used
to pass anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
I don't know exactly where, let me look it up
right now, but I think Derrek Henry is probably in
the top ten. I think he's in the top ten,
and he's probably the active leader.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Yes, he would have to be for sure.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, Frank Gore I think finished third. He retired just
like two seasons ago.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
A couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
He was like third or second all time rushing yards.
But that's just because he played forever. Like you know,
he Frank Gore wasn't ever like a He was a
good running back, but yes, he wasn't.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Never thought that's the best running back in.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
The NFL, right, But sometimes I guess you don't need
to be like No, you can be Joe if you're consistent.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Joe Flacco, you know what I think. He said it
to the Hall of Fame, Joe Flacco.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
I had that discussion actually recently as well.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, I think he's going to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Because I said, you know what if if if Flacco
wins a super Bowl this year, which it doesn't seem
like he was.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
But if for some magical reason it happened, where would
he rank in all time quarterback lists?

Speaker 1 (26:36):
If he takes if he takes the Cleveland Browns who
are terrible, to the super Bowl and they win.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
And he's and he's in his forties, Tom who Yeah,
just because I was well, I had the discussion because
week one, you know, the Browns didn't look awful. They
played the Bengals. You know, they played the Bengals competitively,
ended up losing in Week one, and then the Steelers
won in Week one. Tom Brady won a super Bowl

(27:03):
after he was forty. So I had the discussion, like,
you know, if Aaron Rodgers wins a super Bowl with
the Steelers, if Joe Burrow or if Joe flat Joe
Burrow's got a while to go before forty, if Joe
Flacco was got to make it to forty two. Yeah, true.
If Joe Flacco wins a super Bowl in his forties, Like,
where does he rank? Oh, and it's intercepted?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Is that picked off?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah? It is Miami. And there's a fight break. Oh
we got a fight yep, Oh it is. Van Horn's
getting into it with the defender. NFL Keith van Horn,
not NBA. NBA Keith van Horn didn't have an e
at the end of the van Horn? What was I saying?

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Flacco?

Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yes, if Flacco wins a Super Bowl, which it's not
gonna happen, but if he did, Like, where would he
rank all time greatest quarterbacks?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
He wouldn't.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You you wouldn't. You still wuldn't. But you think he's
a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, because of statistics. He's got the passing yards, right,
He's been around long it right, I'll check passing yards. Well,
let's get back to our rushing yards real quick. So
top ten all time for rushing yards?

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Top ten? You want top ten?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Top ten?

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Tony Dorris said is at TENEP. Eric Dickerson's at nine,
Jerome Bettis is at eight, YEP, the bus LT at seven,
and Tomlinson.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
There's only one LT and that's Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Curtis Martin Curtis my favorite. That's crazy that I didn't realize.
Curtis Martin got high up.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, he had so many great years with the Jets,
but there were times where the Jets really weren't that good.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Adrian Peterson is fifth, yep, Barry Sanders is fourth. Frank
Gore is third all time of fame. He played from
five to twenty. Yeah, that's crazy. Walter Payton is number two.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
And then Derrick Henry is not on the list.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
Derrick Henry is eighteenth.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, he's got a while ago.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
And he's Dereck Henry's at eleven thousand yards. Yeah, and
he's coming up on his tenth season.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And like Frank Gore played fifteen seasons, correct, is Derek
Henry got five more seasons in him? But good good seasons, right,
Like you have to beat like you hit the wall
at thirty two usual. I don't know though, because he
ran for two thousand yards last year, didn't he are
just under I think he had all No, Yeah, he had, yes,
he did, he had last year.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Yeah he did. That's not going to happen this year.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Last year he had nineteen hundred yards, so just under
two thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
He ain't happened in this year.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
No, he's off to a very slow start of this year.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Yeah, he's not going to get He's not going to
get He'll be lucky to get fifteen hundred.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
No, nope. And the other thing is is he's in
Baltimore where he's got to compete with Lamar Jackson running
the ball.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Who runs with the ball. They're trying to teach Lamar
not to be They're trying to have him to be
a pocket passer and it's got mixed results.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Well, he's still he threw forty touchdowns last year. Yeah,
Lamar is a good quarterback. He's not a bad no quarterback,
but he once he gets to January. Well. The other
thing is exactly he can't do anything in the playoffs.
But that's also not all on him. It's like two
playoffs in a row. They had Zave Flowers fumble that
ball out of the end zone and then are they
going to blame him for that? And then Mark Andrews

(30:15):
dropping the ball last year or year before that.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Yeah, it's it's just remember, as a quarterback, you get a.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Wins line, right, I know, I know, as a running
back and you do not get on the stat sheet.
Two things that.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Right, coaches, teams, and quarterbacks. That's it. That's the list.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
So you want to hear so I said, Derek Henry's
eighteenth all time rushing yards. Yeah, the next active rusher.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, Saquon right, No.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
No, it's Joe Mixon at sixty Where's sixty? Where is
sixty two? Okay, Saquon's only got seventy three hundred at
all time run rushing yards.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Well, he had that big injury too with the Giants,
which kind of hampered.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Him, and he played for the Ions which kind of
hampered him a bit. You know, Joe Mixon, I didn't
realize he had that many yards, but it's like seven
thousand is still not that much.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I have Mongo. I have Mango's starting lineup as well.
As you know, he passed away earlier this year. He
is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Also, as
you know, he was a wrestler, Steve Mango, McMichael w
c W w c W Yeah, Monday Night tro Yeah,
the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Look at this defense, they got like eight in the
box ready to storm. Dan Marino he caught that caught it. Wow?
Is that not more more?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Again?

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
That Moore is essentially the decoy because the Marx Brothers
are being are being double teamed. Yeah, is it coming
back though?

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Offsides?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Off sides are encroachment undebears, Yeah, a lot of encroachment.
Check it out. Look at the animal and there there's
the refrigerator. By the way, When Katy Perry gets pregnant,
are they gonna call her refrigerator Perry?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
No? I don't think so. I think she might be
offended by that. I'm not I know you're not calling
her that.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Oh I don't care. Katy Perry can go to space
for all I care. Oh wait a second, she already did.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
So. We were talking about all time passing Yeah, leaders,
What were you asking.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Joe Flacco where he is? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Where is he? He's eighteen, just like Derrick Henry. He's eighteen.
All time passing yards, he has forty six thousand, and
this feels like it has to be his last year,
Like I just can't see him going back out there again.
But depends on whatod he's got in the tank, right
if he finishes this season? Uh, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
It was that dent otis Wilson very underrated by the
way on the Bears defense, Wilson. Oh, yes, my man otis, Yeah,
otis my man otis Nixon Otis. Wilson went to Louisville.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yep. Oh, my goodness. Joe Flacco, if he throws for
four thousand yards this year, he'd move up to like
thirteenth all time. Wow. But he would need a really good.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Was ahead of him right now for the give me
five passers? Who are I want active? Because there's not
active just.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Overall in front of him. Vinnie Testa verdie okay, Carson Palmer, yeah, uh,
Russell Wilson, Russ Russe is going to be all. But
he's got the super bowls too, and super Bowl or
super Bowl yehoa super Bowl appearances plural.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
There's duper Mark, Duper Mark's that's what he called him.
Super duper, by the.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Way, super duper. I get down with that helmet. I know,
I saw that earlier. He's rocking a two bar, like
a low two bar.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
You don't see that anymore?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Yeah, no, visor, No, no fancy gloves, fare hand in
the ball, No, yeah, no gloves, yeah, no tape on
his fingers.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Stick yeah, Stickham was out a lot in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I believe Frank Tarkenton. Fran Fran Tarkentin, You're right. I wasn't.
I didn't see that.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
It was a part of Monday Night Football at one
time as well. Yes, Warren Moon Hall of Famer, John
Elway Hall of Famer. Eli is in front of him.
He's going to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
And then do you want the top ten because Eli's
an eleventh hang on and they stopped him and stopped him.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, at the one, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
The top ten has two active players in it, both
of whom are probably done soon. Yeah. Matt Stafford is
tenth all time passing yards with sixty thousand the Hall
of Fame. Yes, especially now that he has a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
The Super Bowl like he did that debate of between
Warner and him last week. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
Dan Marino ninth all time sixty one thousand.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Matt Stown he was, he was on all time at
one point.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Stafford will probably pass him this. Yeah. Matt Ryan sixty
two ninety two yards is eighth all time.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Matty Ryan is going to the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Really, yes, do you think just because of the MVP?
MVP and look at he look look where he is
he's got Yeah, he's got passing yards. He also But
the thing is is like how much do passing yards like,
how much of that is on the quarterback? And how
much of that is on like the talented wide receiver.
Well like if you look at le Leo Jones is
not made without Maddy Ryan, Matt Ryan's not made without

(35:33):
Julio Jones. It feels like the Matt Ryan had Tony Gonzalez.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
The model of consistency from start for the Atlanta Falcons.
Remember the even with Vic they wouldn't have They would
have a winning season.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
And they would lose in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
No winning season, and then have two losing seasons in
a row. Matty Ryan stopped that. That's why he's the
greatest Atlanta Falcon of all time. And because of that,
topped with an m VP, something VIC did not get
topped with all the stats right there, he's going to
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
But does the Super Bowl loss like diminish that at
all just because of the type of loss it is?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Nope, not at all.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, Nope, the like and and and again, like how
many wider how many Hall of Fame wide receivers does
Dan Marino have? Not to Like, I'm agreeing with your point,
But I'm just saying, like, how many Hall of Fame
wide receivers did Dan Marina play with? Wow? And he
had sixty one thousand passing yards. That's why I'm saying, like,

(36:34):
how much does Julio influence Matt Rather or Tony Gonzalez?
Like too, Like I don't know, Julio's not in the
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Jis not going to the Hall of Fame. But he
ran out of Gas.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
I feel like, I don't know. Julio's a talented wide receiver.
He's one of the We're gonna have to end up
checking the wide receiver listening to a second but the
But like Tony Gonzalez is a Hall of Fame tight end,
Matt Ryan was thrown to him for part of his career.
It's like, how much did that help Matt Because when
he went to Indy he fell off. He ran out
of gas an Indy, Like, yeah, he has a lot
of yards Miami seventeen to seven second quarter. Now I

(37:09):
want to thank the NFL YouTube channel for this. Sorry coach,
his coach sin, it's gonna have to find something else
for you to go. Yeah, we're gonna have to dig
into Coachy Shinsky's film room again some other Okay, continuing
on the list, Aaron Rodgers active Hall of Famer, Yeah,
he's Hall of famer. What is he? Three time MVP? Four?
I think was it four times? Was he four time MVP?

(37:31):
I thought it was three? Ok I could be wrong,
but either.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I was counting. I'll check quick. Three times.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I believe four time or pro four time MVP?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Wow ye? And a super Bowl chance on Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
One more than FARV. By the way, FARV had three MVPs.
He had them in a row, by the way, ninety five,
ninety six. And the co MVP with Barry Sandys. You
know why Barry Sanders got co MVP, right?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Why he got.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Two thousand yards and the Lions made the playoffs after
starting out of the they stumbled out of the gate.
They had to they had to win I think two
or three games that what was it? If I'm trying
to remember, they had to win I think three games
in a row, and they did. Barry Sanders was a
big reason why.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Let me ask you, you know, there's two more names
in front of Aaron Rodgers. There's four. There's there's there's
six people. Aaron Rodgers was seventh all time, the Tom Brady,
Drew Brees, they're not in the Hall of Fame. They'll
be there. Number one, Number two, Peyton Manning.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Is is in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Yeah, he Brett Favre Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame.
So we've got pretty much four Hall of famers in
front of Aaron Rodgers in the in the top five,
number five and number six. I want your opinion. Are
they going to the Hall of Fame? Ben Roethlisberger is
fifth all time housing going to the Hall of Fame.
You think he will go to the Hall of Fame? Yes,

(38:54):
you don't think his off field stuf will tarnish any
of that.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It should, but it won't. It should it don't.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yes, I understand, and we don't have to stay on
the topic. I'm just curious you think because he has
what two rings? He won two right, one with Cower,
one with Tomlin. Okay, again, he was consistent. Yeah, the
Steelers made the playoffs like every year. Every year, every
year Roethlisberger played, he was in the playoffs. Yeah, there

(39:22):
wasn't a time where they missed it. Hang on, wrong,
I was wrong.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'm wrong. Hang on, I'm wrong. I believe two thousand
and I think the six season. I think cowers last
season they missed the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Six they well, no, because it wasn't cowor the coach
in seven? Or when did they win the Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Five? Seasons?

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Five? Yes, and then six they went seven and eight?
O seven they went ten and five.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Well, hold on, seven and eight?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Wait what Yeah, they went seven and eight and six.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
How can you go seven and eight, eight and eight,
seven and eight.

Speaker 3 (39:56):
Ben Roethlisberger went seven and eight. He played fifteen games,
he probably play Okay, so yes, So other than that,
Other than that year, that one, I think Charlie Batch
played the final game or something, or.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Played a game in the middle of the season. Yeah, okay,
all right? Who else you said?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
The other name? Ye? Philip Rivers?

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Phil Rivers is going to the Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Why tell me? Tell me? Why again?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
Consistency with him and Antonio Gates and Ladanian Tomlinson, and
he actually had a relatively good last season with Indy.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
So but the man could never do anything in December,
mean December, in January, no, like he had. The Chargers
had some of the worst numbers in December when Philip
Rivers played for them.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
They're not gonna every year again, They're not. You've got
to remember something here. Stats get you in the Hall
of Fame. It's not just about winning. You look at
those stats. Who else has those?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Right? I mean I guess, But so there you go.
He's gonna So he's six right now. He's gonna be
seventh by the end of the year because Aaron Rodgers
will pass him, yes, and injuries permitting, and potentially if
Matt Stafford.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Throws for like injuries permitting.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Four thousand yards, he could pass him. He'll probably Matt
Stafford probably has at least one more year in him
maybe injuries permitting, yes, obviously, But so like Philip Rivers
will probably finish eighth right now, Like you know, either
by the end of this year or next year, and
it's like, okay, you're top eight all time. I mean,

(41:34):
I don't know. I don't know the amount of Rivers
deserves to be in there. I don't know the amount
of children he has from the time he was in
college to now.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
He's going to the Hall of Fame. He's going to
the Hall of.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Fame, the father Hall of Fame. That man. He's a
Hall of Famer on the field and off the field.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Look at wide receivers.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Now, wide receivers. You want to do all time receiving.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yards, just to do the top ten.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Give them an update on the game.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Seventeen to seven, the Miami Dolphins leading the Chicago Bears. Again,
the Bears at this time undefeated. Here at this point
in nineteen eighty five, Week three thirteen. Excuse me, right,
this isn't like a you know, this is like you know,
Week five, right, No, we're like nearing the end of
the season. Yeah, this is primetime NFL season. This is

(42:24):
Walter Peyton.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
When do you think this game? When was Week thirteen?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Week thirteen? I think it was like December?

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Is it December? Yeah? But they're down in Miami, so
they're enjoying a green Christmas here on this playback.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Well, here's the thing. Let's see Week thirteen got fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen because a week seventeen, as you know, because teams
had bye weeks, it was a sixteen game season, which.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Right, that's what I was. I didn't know how many
games they played in eighty five. Yeah, it was a
sixteen game season.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
So, yeah, did you know that Walter Payton used to
I think you've probably heard this right. He used to
take the soles out of his shoes so he could run,
so he could get a feel for running on the again,
Soldier Field was like turf. It wasn't it wasn't natural grass.
Well it was Soldier Field I think was natural grass,

(43:11):
then turf, back to natural grass. He was running during
the the turf days, messed his feet up.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Did you What was I gonna say? Do you know?
And you probably know because you have an endless sports knowledge.
Do you know Denard Robinson? You know who that is,
quarterback from Michigan. I know you're an Ohio State guy.
But his nickname was Shoelace because he never tied his shoes,
like his cleats were always untied. They did you ever

(43:42):
you ever seen that show Sports Science?

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yes? They so we talked about Sports Science back during
during baseball season, did we. Yeah, we did.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
The Sports Science. I used to watch it all the time.
That was my like like snow day show, Like whenever
I had a snow day. It felt like Sports Science
was always.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
On Sports Science.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
They did an episode on Denared Robinson or a segment yeah,
and found out that he ran faster with his shoes untied,
so like his his shoes, I wouldn't advise that his
shoes actually like the way he ran, and they like
the studies they did on him, his shoes would actually
like tighten when he would make cuts and actually stay

(44:21):
on his foot, and it was just like a thing
that he could do, I guess. And again again I
would not advise that that's yeah. I actually tore the
ligament in my like ankle freshman year playing football because
I never tie my shoes. I still don't tie my shoes.
I like, if you look down, I tie him just
to slip them on. Pretty much, I'm lazy about tying

(44:42):
my shoes. And I just admit, you can't tie your shoes.
I can tie my shoes, darn it. I didn't learn
to tie my shoes till I was nine, and it
was out of anger. Of anger.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
My dad's like, we're not leaving to you.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Like, damn it, I just want to tie my shoes.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You're not leaving the house. Do you tie your shoes?
And I can't do that. Then all of a suddenly,
I don't know what it was. I'm like, yeah, Then
He's like, okay, fine, we'll go outside. You're happy now.
I'm never had. And I've said this at the age
of I'm never happy. And then all of a sudden,
I tie my shoes and Dad's like, you did it.
You tricked me, didn't you, son of a third down?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
I uh, Wide receivers, Yeah, I got the list of
wide receivers in front of me.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Here, we're doing ten to one.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I'll do ten to one. But I do want to
tell you in the top thirty there's three active players. Yes,
Travis Kelcey yes, is twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Ok So it's fine, yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
But that's impressive and it is now he's where is looking.
Tony Gonzalez is sixth, not to jump the gun, but
highest tight end right there. So Travis Kelsey is twenty eight,
Mike Evans is twenty two.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
He's getting up there.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
And then DeAndre Hopkins is twentieth all time receiving yards.
And he looks good this year, like with Baltimore so
far at press time, like he's looking decent, a lot
better than I feel like he did with the Chiefs
last year. And who did he play for before the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
DeAndre Hopkins played for the Titans.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Was it the Titans and they weren't getting him the
ball ether so he missed out on all He missed
out on a.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
Lot of I think he's gonna I think at the moment,
I don't think he's going to make the Hall of
Fame because of these last couple of seasons where it's
just he had a.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Good He had a good run in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I liked him with Kyler, he had these holdouts, which
did not help because it hampered him. And then he
goes to the team that he wanted and it didn't
He didn't work out well.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
He tried to get a I mean, I'm I liked
hop I'm not trying to bad mouth the guy from
everything I've seen, you know the story. They talk about
his mother all the time and she had the accident
with her vision, and he seems like a genuinely nice guy.
So I'm not trying to bat but he he kind
of wanted to get like a free ride, it felt

(47:03):
like with the Chiefs last year and didn't really produce,
and the Chiefs didn't produce in the big Game, so
he didn't get the ring like he wanted. Like because
I think if maybe he got a ring. Maybe he
performed well in that Super Bowl, maybe he would have
made it, But not getting the ring and having those
couple of bad seasons where you really didn't do much Trundlfesling.

(47:27):
Is he going to the Hall of Fame? No? But
I think that is Trent dil for top twenty passing
yards all time. No, exactly. DeAndre Hopkins has at least
top twenty receiving yards all the time.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
He gonna throw the ball.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Oh damn, that was close. It's incomplete. It was close
despite it being not good. And there's a dolphin down.
Look like this man got the win knocked out of him.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Will Judson, Yeah, good, good eye, Will Judson.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
So, d hop is your current active leader? Julio Jones,
So Julio sixteen. He's definitely not making it. I was wrong.
I thought he was like top ten.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Who else was like one of those big time running
backs that was there's Larry Zonica right there.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Uh you can tell why that the mustag ustash. I
thought that was Burt Reynolds. Plead, do my Burt Reynolds.
That's my there you go.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Well, let's see who was another one who was the
Saints long time wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
That was always like, oh, I know Joe Horn. No,
I'm talking in this this last decade. Oh, Michael Thomas,
where's he on there? Michael Thomas. He's not that high up. Okay,
he fell off because he got hurt and he wasn't
known for his yards. I don't even see him. Hold on,
pick us up.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I'm going to go to the top one hundred.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Bears were able to get. It's it's seventeen now, Miami
leading in the second quarter.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Mike or Mark Duper by the way, eighty first on
the list he had he had eighty eight eighty eight
hundred career receiving yards.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
Okay, so the top ten.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Hold on, I'm looking for Michael Thomas. I'm just glancing
through to see if I can find him. Michael Thomas
was more known for his catches, like he broke the
record for most catches in a season. I believe. Yeah,
he's not. He's not even in the top one hundred,
which is actually kind of crazy. But we'll give you
the top ten.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Reggie Wayne for the Colts not in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
I think he will be.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Marvin Harrison Senior Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
So two back to backs, how about that?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Huh? And they both had fourteen thousand yards. Marvin Harrison
had five fourteen and eighty and Reggie Wayne had fourteen thousand,
three hundred and forty five, so almost the exact same
amount of and for the most part, who was the
same quarterback pretty much?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
For the most part, I know Jim Harbaugh those couple
of years they were able to throw to starf and Marvin.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Yeah. Did Reggie Wayne play with Andrew Luck at all?

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Either? I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Did he? Was he gone by the time Luck? Can?

Speaker 1 (50:15):
I think he was?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Who was lux number one guy?

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Though? What was it? Who was his number one?

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Because I thought it was Reggie Wayne? Are you sure? Yeah?
Like for the no, you know who it was? Let me,
I want to So Reggie Wayne played until twenty fourteen.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, I played until twenty fourteen.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, Andrew Luck was I think twenty two.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
You know Luck was drafted in twenty twelve.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, so I think they played like a couple of seasons.
But the guy I was thinking of, t Y Hilton,
that was Andrew Luck's number one.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
Guy, t Y Hilton. You know what t Y stands for?
What thank you.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Yes, I know that. I thought you were gonna get
tell me his actual name.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
You know what, you know what his name should have been.
It should have been t h. Hilton. That's hot.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Ty. T Y Hilton was sixty first all time. So
back to the list. Reggie Wayne was ten, Marvin Harrison
Senior was nine, Steve Smith Senior eight son. Did you
know he is not a Hall of Famer?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
No, he has a contentious relationship with the media. That's
why Ice up son number seven.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
Tim Brown legendary, Hall of Famer, Heisman winners, absolutely National champion, legendary.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
The Raiders not in the Super Bowl, and what I
mean I mean.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
Yeah, yeah, they they they had Tim Brown and Jerry
Rice on their team at one point.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
And they'd rich again in the NFL MVP.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
It's crazy how that? How that?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
How did that work out in the super Bowl?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, it unraveled. The franchise hasn't been the same since,
as we eluded that. It was two thousand and three
when that Super Bowl has happened. By the way, that
was the last super Bowl to be played in the
month of January. Yeah, the last super Bowl to be
played in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
Yeah, because it's been in February ever since.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
Since well O two because of what had happened previously
in September of one was because remember knowing if you remember,
no one played football that way. Yes, yes, I know,
like they moved it back and they had to Yeah,
they had to extend. And as you know, Qualcomm Stadium
will start kind of falling apart a little bit. So

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hosting the Super Bowl, they wanted to host more. Well,
the only way they were gonna be able to do
that is if they had built a new stadium.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
Now there's no team.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yes, what you're going to You're going back to La.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
So number six we alluded to earlier.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Third and thirteen for Dan Marino and the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
Tony Gonzalez hall of famer, arguably the greatest tight end
of all time. Number five Isaac Bruce, Hall of famer.
Number We saw him last week on Monday Night Football
with the Rams. That's true with the greatest show on turf.
Is that duper, super duper, super duper getting look like
fifty of those eight thousand.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yards right there, double coverage two.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Isaac Bruce, Yeah, we saw him last week on the
playback Randy Moss. Number four We're going to be seeing
Randy Moss on the playback very soon and at press time.
Congratulations to him for just announcing he's cancer free.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Recent y stomach cancer, right, yeah, stomach cancer.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
I think it was stomach cancer. But he just announced recently,
just a couple of weeks ago, that he was canceled.
Congratulations to him. Terrell Owens, hall of Famer, number three
all time, just under sixteen thousand yards for him, number two, Yes,
guaranteed Hall of Famer. Yes, not a Hall of Famer yet.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Larry Fitzgerald, fitz Matt Yeah, the other guaranteed Hall of Famer.
He he had two thousand more receiving yards than Terrell Owens. Yeah,
that's crazy. And so that's what see like, that's what
I'm saying, Like, Larry Fitzgerald had seventeen thousand receiving yards
with no quarterbacks KK like Kurt Warner, Well, Kurt Warner

(53:57):
gave it.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
This is Warner. At the end of his career.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
He had like what one or two two seasons together?

Speaker 1 (54:02):
No hold on.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Larry Fitzgerald was drafted I think in five right, let
me look at a pit. I believe he was out
of pit. Yeah, but I don't know when. I want
to say it was two thousand and five. No, he
was drafted in four oh four, okay, yeah, the four draft. Okay,
he was third overall. He was and you'll see is

(54:28):
he an eight, is he eighty three? Or he is
there you go August thirty first, and I'm all here,
you go older. Then the larrey of fitz jail right
the well if it's a original fits magic right there.
So okay, he was drafted in four. When did Kurt Warner?

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Warner didn't arrive until oh, I want to say six
or seven.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
And how many seasons did he play?

Speaker 1 (54:46):
He played until two thousand and nine or ten, I believe.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
I was gonna say. I thought it was nine. So
they only got like three seasons together. They had magnificent seasons, right, Yeah,
But then then he had a couple again good quarterback
and Fitzgerald was awesome. Yes, after that was when it
really started to Yeah, but he didn't really fall off

(55:11):
like quarterback. Yeah, yeah, boy, I guess he kind of
had a little bit of a dip. He went from
he had five straight one thousand yard seasons and three
of them were fourteen hundred yards. Yeah, with Kurt warrener
or maybe not Kurt Warner was from seven to twenty eleven. Yeah,

(55:36):
so maybe Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer. And then twenty
twelve he had under eight hundred yards. Yes, so he
literally went from fifty almost fifteen hundred yards to half
of that pretty much. That's the dip off there. Then
under a thousand for three straight seasons, then over a
thousand for three straight seasons, and then under again finished

(55:57):
his career off. But he had Kyler Murray in there,
so I guess he. Kyler's an okay quarterback, like a
good quarterback. Carson Palmer a good quarterback, not like Hall
of Fame.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Rights Kurt Warner.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Kurt Warner's a Hall of Fame. Yes, that's Remember the
best quarterback Larry Fitzgerald. You remember that catch in the
Super Bowl? Oh yeah, I had the Cardinals hung on.
That would have been the one when he like caught
it the crosser or whatever, like the slant. Yeah, with
too much again, too much time that so and I
told I already told you the story. Right with the
Dolphins now at first in goal touchdown, Man, it's been

(56:30):
nothing but Dolphins in this game. We've kind of been
just going off on tangents, which is typical of the playback.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
But we're here for a couple hours. We're not just
gonna watch the game.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
It's been nothing but Dolphins. It's the the Bears. You
could have you could have fooled me. You could have
said this was nineteen eighty three, eighty two, eighty one.
Wouldn't have made a difference, Like I wouldn't have thought
this was the eighty five Bears. They are getting ran
over by the Dolphins here and Dan.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Marino seventeen to ten. He didn't get in.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Dan Marino is a warning. Tossing up some dimes here.
The Bears offense looks good, but their defense, which is
supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
The stalwart, that's their bread and butter.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
They feel like they're getting ran over.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Dick, but GISs back in the uh one.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Of the greatest names ever. Yeah, no nickname necessary, but.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
Kiss Gail Sayers there. It is that touchdown.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Someone dropping a streamer on the field better.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Than dropping other things on the field. Yes, let's not
get into it. Yeah, PENNNBA courts stop, folks stop please.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
So Larry played by the Way sixteen seasons. Yes, and
he's still five thousand yards short of Jerry Rice. Five
thousand yards.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
I have kids that come up to me and say
that Randy Moss was the greatest wide receiver receiver of
all time.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
You watched, I mean I watched Jerry Rice, but I
watched the end of his career like I watched Jerry Rice.
What crime.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Jerry Rice is the greatest wide receiver in the history
of the NFL because he was more than just a
wide receiver. He was an athlete. He was unreal stuff
we've never seen before. The behind the back he patented, Okay,
the telegraphed pass where Joe Montana and Steve Young would

(58:22):
lob it up in the air. He would run, wouldn't
even watch it. It would fall into his hands touchdown.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
And it's crazy because twenty four to ten. Now you've
obviously heard the story of how he trained and got
good at catching. Was he like he used to catch bricks? Yeah,
when he was like a kid and stuff like Mississippi? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Do you know the Patriots could have picked him?

Speaker 3 (58:45):
The poor Patriots just absolutely fumble in the back. I
think they picked Irving Fryar. Yeah, but I think it
worked out for New England. I think they ended up
getting their guy later on. Anyways, who ended up winning
them quite a few championships. So in the eighties, no,
it took a while they were down bad. My dad
used to tell me he used to get Patriots gear
from my grandparents and he'd throw it away before he

(59:08):
got to school because he'd get bullied if he was
wearing Pats gear.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
In the eighties, they used to black out Patriots games
in the area.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
They're just like, no one wants to see this.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
You guys are two and fourteen. How you guys doing
this year? Yeah, we're gonna put the Packers on the line.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
The networks, the networks are just like, we're losing money
when we show these games. Yeah, we're gonna put the
We're gonna put the Indianapolis Colts in the uh in
the lost? Were they even the Indianapolis Ras then? Weren't
they the Baltimore Colts? Yeah? Twenty four tens before halftime.
Fuller is just getting getting sacked. Man, he's a solid

(59:46):
He's a solid quarterback here. I'm genuinely confused on why
McMahon is not playing. It's not can't can it be injury?
Because he's in again he's in his cloth, he's he's suited,
he's suited, and they keep cutting the suspension. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
Yeah, he was a thorn in Pete Roselle's side. So
Pete rosell was the commissioner, so he would say, you know, oh,
you know what it was. Also, Adidas was not allowed
to be worn on the field. And guess what, guess what?

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Guess guess sou doesn't he wear the Adidas headband?

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it's his high Pete?

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Yeah, yeah, doesn't he wear it in like the in
the shuffle and stuff like that? Later, I believe so, yeah,
because it's not like technically on the field, I think,
but because the Super Bowl shuffle is like their own thing,
he was allowed to wear it and they got away
with it or something.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
He'd get fired. Well remember Michael Jordan would get speaking
of Chicago, right, yeah, Jordan would get fined for not
wearing what would you call what like white sneakers? Right? Yeah, yeah,
he would wear Air Jordan's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
And he Jordan also famously with the Olympic moment where
he covered the Rebok logo.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Because with the American flag. Yeah, I remember, yes, what
was it? Some woman actually said, oh, he's just wearing
that flag so proudly.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Uh no, I mean, but good on him, he'd like
because they were like, you have to wear this jacket,
like because you're part of Team USA.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Correct, rebok was part of the dream. Yes, redbox suited
just about all athletes for a Team USA for just
about everything.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Right, and so they have to wear this And then
what a genius way to get around wearing is And
they can't tell him to take the flag off, like,
so he's just Michael Jordan is very petty but also
just a genius. It's locked man, the Bears. When it rains,
it pours. Look at this. In in production they call

(01:01:37):
this reacts the reacts shot. That's such a good look
at this crowd. Yeah, these are Orange Bowl is filled.
These are good react shots. These are like the crowd
going wild. Yeah, right up the gut the center. Just
Oh you want to know something, Yeah that hurts. Blocking

(01:01:59):
the kick? Yeah doesn't feel good. That dude kicks the
football for a living. It's gonna hurt when it hits you.
I don't know if you've ever blocked a kick in
any sports before. Not fun Well.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
Judson out of South Carolina State eighth round, draft choice,
eighth round.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
How many rounds did they used to have? They used
to have a ton, right baseball, they had way too many. Yeah,
I think in nineteen ninety they had like two hundred rounds.
How many rounds used to be in the NFL draft.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Let's see look at how much prime real estate Marino has.
He's like on the ten yard line. He can just.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
It started with nine rounds in nineteen thirty six. Yeah,
and then in the forties it increased to thirty two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Rounds and then Dumont by the way, Dumont Television network
covering the nineteen NFL draft, we're never getting out of here,
it had We're never getting We're never getting out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
Folks, you're a prisoner now. The NFL trap at Radio
City Music Hall. That was wild that that Have you
ever seen the It's like the the FBI entrapped people
to they like offered like two hundred people on their
most wanted list for something. Dolphins again, Dolphins score again,

(01:03:21):
gonna make it thirty one to ten. I believe in that.
I believe that was duper Is it duper? No, it's
not more again a Dolphins record, breaking the all time
receiving touchdowns record for the Dolphins. But have you ever
seen it's the the FBI set up a sting operation

(01:03:41):
to get like one hundred people on their most wanted
list or whatever. They offered them free like Super Bowl
tickets or something, and they all showed up. Yes, I remember,
I remember hearing about this crazy yeah, like one of
the most crazy trap men. But back then, Yeah, Dumont
by the way, by the way, was a television network.
Was it Dumont? It was ABC, NBC, CBS and Dumont.

(01:04:05):
And did they it sounds like Dumont folded or have
you heard Dumont since Yeah, exactly, so it was not.
It was thirty two rounds in the forties and it
stayed that way, thirty one to ten, by the way.
It stayed that way until nineteen seventy seven when they
reduced it to twelve rounds, and then they settled again

(01:04:27):
to the AFL NFL merger. It's settled in nineteen ninety four.
Back down to seventies. Yes, and we all know about
that nineteen ninety four draft. Who the hell is mel
kiper Junior? And who the hell is mel kiper Junior?
Mel kiper June from well, I know from what everyone
tells me, he's never played football in his life, so good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Name.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
The Orange Bowl is rocking. It is on a Monday
night and in late nineteen eighty five, and we're doing
Monday Night here on the playback. We're in the midst
of a Monday night every week for the NFL season.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Until late December. Yeah, every single week, folks. We've got
five decades worth of Monday night football from the seventies,
the eighties, the nineties, the two thousands, and the twenty ten.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
We're rolling through and doing them all. Yeah, this one
is eighty five. Yep, Week thirteen, and the Dolphins spiritually
are taking the souls right out of these Bears fans
and the Bears themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Whenever many people that went to Chicago or were Chicago
Bears people in this venue, I can't imagine there was
a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
No, I don't think they probably. I don't know how
how well fans traveled back in the day, Like I
don't know how capable they were. Like, you know, I
have no idea on the outlook of buying tickets and
things like that on the road, because it's not like
you could just hit up ticket Master or whatever ticket

(01:06:06):
buying app you have to get your tickets last minute,
like app exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Sing as an app back in the eighties. Yeah, not
even an appetizer.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, an app is what you gave a job. Yeah,
here's my app.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
Here's my app. You're what? Yeah, I'm sure flying was
easier about Oh of course it was back then.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Yeah, but it's like, how expensive was a ticket? Yeah?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Like, was flying more expensive then as it is now?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
I don't know. I feel like now it's kind of
almost like a Yeah, the prices and inflation are probably
more expensive, but I feel like tickets, if you're planning ahead,
you can get a ticket relatively good priced.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
And I remember back then tickets were like five I'm
saying not playing tickets, but sports tickets were like five
bucks back then.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, I had a buddy. I worked at
a ski resort and I had a buddy. A coworker
tell me when he was a kid, he was older
than me. He was older than you. He told me
when he was like a little kid growing up in Philly,
he could get tickets to like the in the Nosebleeds
for like a Phillies game, for like five cents, like

(01:07:13):
five cents a ticket. He's like, we just go and
like sell cans for like a day and get like
ten cents. Me and my brothers, and we'd stand outside
the stadium and try and get like a five cent
ticket to go see a Phillies game. It was like
five cents I paid the price I paid for tickets
to go see the Red Sox this year. Astronomical compared
to that inflation. Astro Nomical inflation is an understatement.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
No, it was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
So it's like tickets must have been cheap back then. Yeah,
but it's like traveling is the only thing I don't understand,
Like I can't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Well, I think everything was kind of cheap back then, right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Yeah, But how often were people just like screw it,
I don't have a job. We'll just scrounge a dollar
and be able to buy a ticket when we get there,
you know, Like do you think people were following like
almost like a deadhead like would follow the tour? Like
do you think people just toward the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
Groupies?

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, there's like I'm just gonna follow the Bears all No, No, j.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Dog yuppies not groopies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Yuppie groupies Yeah, when you follow a band, it's a groupie.
When you follow regular people, you're a yuppie.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
I just thought yuppies were people that said yup all
the time. No, no, you know, yeah, yuppie. Yeah, you
know what yuppies are, right, young urban professionals. So that
was the slang of the eighties, yuppies.

Speaker 3 (01:08:39):
Young urban professional.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Yes, just you know, people who worked like my parents.
You know, your parents in the eighties were yuppies. They
were they were, you know, like a yuppie scum or something.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
It became a derogatory remark, you know, like what working
on Wall Street you were a yuppie, you know, just like, are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
You young and you have a job, loser?

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
You sounded like Sam Kennison and the promo forre Married
with Children loser.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
The yuppies. Yeah, the bears are yuppies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
I also thought that yuppies meant are you sure you're
not calling them guppies? That's a fish.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Chicago. Less than a minute left before halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Did you fly before? Do you remember for your first
time flying?

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
My first time flying? Yeah, first time I ever flew.
I went to San Antonio, So.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
It was after nine to eleven. Yeah, okay, same here.
I didn't fly until I was thirty one going on
thirty two in twenty fifteen for Red Sox spring training.
So for what I and again I was told I
had friends that would they when they were little. Then
when they would fly, it was a limo in the sky.

(01:10:11):
Not true, Yep, flame in you know, you know, you know,
flame Mignon. They would open it up and it would
be a tray of flame, you know. Yeah, And then
that's not how it was, was it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
No, it was Oh, they hooked you up with filame
and yon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
No I'm saying before, I'm saying before.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Before nine or less. Oh, yeah, I could see that
it was not a hassle to be in the sky. Now,
as you know, yes, it's a lot more and quite understandably.
So it's a lot more work that goes into traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
And there's a reason for that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Yeah, exactly. So I had a nice flight when I
went to Europe. I went on my honeymoon. We flew
into not London, it's like it's like Heathrow before, but
we flew into Heathrow and I think they gave us.
I think they gave us breakfast and half Yeah, a

(01:11:11):
beat down the undefeated Chicago Bears getting stomped. Yep. At halftime,
you were saying, they gave us I think breakfast and dinner.
I can't remember. And on the way back they gave
us breakfast and dinner from But we had a longer
flight on the way home because we were in France,
like we had to fly we were more west than England,

(01:11:31):
so we are more east than England, so we had
to fly further back west.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Special teams are getting it done for the Dolphins in
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Yeah, for sure. But the planes were the like going overseas.
Flying overseas is so nice. I mean. We also upgraded
our seats because we were on our honeymoon. We wanted
like full nice seating, right, and so we had like
some some of those laid dog we had some lay

(01:12:01):
back seats. I had my feet up all the way. Oh.
And it was like in our own little area, like
we each had Me and Aaron each had our own
like like we were both in this little area together
and had like our own little seats and stuff. The
Bears pick it off to start the second half, and

(01:12:21):
this man just got crumpled like a soda can. At
the end of it, but Fraser walking away with the pick.
Fraser got jacked gingerly walking away with the pick. He
has to be helped. I bet his buddies are whispering
in his ear. It's Monday night, Football Week thirteen. We're

(01:12:42):
on the road in the Orange Bowl. If they ask,
get back in there five. But yeah, stretching my legs
out at like over two hundred movies you choose from see.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
I get to do that in the bus. I don't
get to do that on the floor.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
You gotta fly over sees sometimes you gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Well, I'm tryal, we'll be well, maybe Italy next year.
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Maybe you're not gonna make it for the Winter Olympics
this year, this upcoming year.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Yeah, no, no, no, that's gonna be. That's gonna be.
That's gonna be a murders.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
The I want to go to the Olympics so bad.
I've wanted to work them since I like was a kid. Yeah,
because I think I've told you this before off air.
I'm a big Olympics guy. My birthday is in the summer. Yeah,
so where summer Olympics got. I love the Olympics too.
I love the Winter Olympics. Too. Don't get me wrong.
I like hockey growing up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
You know, we got the Winter Olympics coming up in
twenty two.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
Right, right, But I in a big Summer Olympics fan
because it's always around my birthday every time. It happens
every four years or so. Obviously the pandemic changed the
timing on it once, but yeah, every four years. I
like to celebrate the Olympics and watch them. Every two
years we get the Winter Olympics, and uh, first down

(01:13:54):
to Walter Payton. I've always wanted to work the broadcast.
I thought it would be cool to just be part
of like the Olympics. Like, imagine how many people are
there from all over the world. It's like the like
just think about being in the middle of the Olympic
village that they create every Olympics. It's like just a
cool little area athletes, you know, some of the best
athletes in the world at their profession, like coming together

(01:14:17):
and just chopping it up in their spare time or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
I just think that's cool. But the uh, the Olympics
this year gonna be Winter Olympics. In the next Summer Olympics,
Jade Dog, we have flag football, how do you feel
about it?

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Is this the only way we're going to win in football?

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
No, I'm interested because some of the players are trying
to do what happens like in the World Baseball Classic,
you know, like Lars Newtbar played for Team Japan instead
of America descent.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
His mother, I believe, is of Jeff Japanese descent.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
So I heard Kyler Murray's thinking about doing the same
thing for flag football. I think he's trying to try
out for the Korean team because I think his mother
is South Korean. De Yeah, so I heard that he's
trying to do the same thing. I thought that was
kind of cool, and I think it'd be cool if
players did that. You know. The problem is America is
going to be stacked. Obviously a lot of these other

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countries don't have professional like American football players. Their football
is a little bit different. But who knows, maybe like
some New Zealand players or something. I'm afraid like in
flag football, the New Zealanders might take it a little
physical and smoke someone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
They might think it's rugby rugby. What is her name,
by the way, who is it leon Ilona mayor you
know what I'm talking about? For USA rugby. She's a celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Now, I don't know if I know who you're talking about,
You're gonna have to show me. I don't know. I
didn't know there was a female or I don't watch
female rugby.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
It's all they talked about in the Olympics. If you're
because I did see.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Actually I did watch female rugby in the Olympics this
past Olympics. Yeah, I did. I caught a little bit
of the footage, you know what I'm talking about, But
I maybe is she like a blonde woman, bland kind
of well, I mean, I don't know if I remember,
you'd have to show me your picture. Because I saw
like one match of the female rugby competition going on

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in the Olympics. Bears trying to convert on this interception
they got third and four.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
She's from Burlington, Vermont too.

Speaker 3 (01:16:25):
Oh see, I didn't know that, and the Dolphins pick
it off, they get the ball right back. I don't
know if I've seen her.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Let me see the name maher or Mayor, No, I
think it'd be mayor mar. Is there a phonetic, Yeah,
it's ill own alone a mar Yeah, Marr Walter Payton.

(01:16:59):
Not even I'm looking balls Jerry Rice. Oh yeah, oh man, yeah,
I need to I need to look up something. Okay,
we need to look up. Why did Jim McMahon.

Speaker 1 (01:17:16):
Yeah, this is gonna bug me. Miss It can't be injury.
He suited up.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Yeah. Jim McMahon missed Week thirteen of the nineteen NFL
season due to a right shoulder injury. This is ai,
by the way, this is quick. This is just the
first thing that pumped up. He had a right shoulder
injury that he aggravated in Week ten against the Green
Bay Packers. The injury led him to sitting out a

(01:17:49):
total of three games that season. Man, what a bad
time to miss a game. If it happened in week
ten and he missed three weeks, this must have been
the last time he was out. Like the last game,
Dang Fuller led them to two wins without McMahon, and
then the third game he ran into the Miami Dolphins

(01:18:13):
because they are just rolling. Dan Marino is in prime form.
Only one pick, almost two hundred yards on only nine completions.

Speaker 1 (01:18:22):
He's just airroinged out. This is his absolute prime right here.

Speaker 3 (01:18:27):
I've never seen him play like I've seen like maybe
like one or two highlights or clips, but like you
never really see highlights of Marino. You just hear the
folklore or the legend right of his gun because he
was like the true father of passing because before him,
it was just like no one really and they fumble

(01:18:51):
and Chicago gets the ball back. Is that Dent?

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
I think it is Clayton.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Oh no, it is Dentall? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
Clayton Clayton fund.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
Direct, Yeah, one of the Marx brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:19:06):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
He's just holding it. What a great punch out, mm hmm,
great punch out, great defense.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
Dent Super Bowl MVP. I believe I have his starting
lineup action figure as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
What is he?

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Is he a defensive tackle?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
He's huge?

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
Yeah? Already a Pro Bowl selection for nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31):
In week twelve, yeah or week thirteen. That's crazy. Back
when the Pro Bowl actually meant something. It sucked then too, Yeah,
but it was like you were making the All Pro,
like first team All Pro or whatever, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Like, yeah, to me, you play it an indian you know,
you play it at the old RCA Dome, Indianapolis in
October winner gets automatic home field advantage in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
They yeah, like where have we had that? Where?

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Where have we had that happen before? Or an All
Star game is determined home field advance?

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Hmmm.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
See in MLB it's different because it's like there's multiple games, correct,
like which like it does best a best of? Right,
Like a best of means like it means like even
if you don't have home field advantage, you're still going
to have a game at home. Yes, Like you got
to win more games, you gotta win at least one
on the road, but you still have like home games
and the super Bowl. You couldn't really do that because

(01:20:31):
it would be like just unfair and on in im
possible to like predict or something. I get like you
would like they would have to they schedule the super
Bowl so far in advance, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Like, yep, as far as I'm kinds again, I want
to see I want to see the Super Bowl in Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
I'd be cool with that. Yeah, it's in a it's
in a neutral location anyways, right, just put it in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
I want to see the world the reason in Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:21:01):
That'd be cool too, Yeah, I'd be cool with that.
I bet the ball flies further in Hawaii in the
warm in the warm air, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
They're scrambling.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
It's tips, that's why. Yeah, third and eight. I mean
Miami's defense, give it to him. They are absolutely they
Miami's defense is the star of the game as much
as the Miami offense has been exploding. Yeah, this defense
has just shut down the eighty five Bears. I think

(01:21:33):
Jim Harbaugh war number four with the Bears as well. Yeah,
I know he didn't work for with the Colts yep.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
And the Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Yeah, that's crazy that he played for the Ravens and
his brother is coaching the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Ravens.

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
It's also crazy that him and his brother coached against
each other in a Super Bowl, right, the Hard Bowl, yep.
Think about Harball Bowl. Think about just how many people
make it to the NFL, like the small number of
football players that end up making it to the NFL,
and then you play in the NFL, then to get

(01:22:12):
a coaching job in the NFL, to get a head
coaching job, and then to coach against your brother who
did the exact same thing pretty much his whole life,
and both to make it to the biggest game in
the biggest sport in the like on the biggest day
of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Jim Harbaugh was on the fast track because of his name, right,
Whereas John Harbaugh actually had to work, he had to
be a defensive coordinator. Whereas Jim Harbaugh had to be
a college coach at Stanford and then go further up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
When I mean further up, I mean from from was
at Stanford. No, Stanford's in what San Oh, I don't
know where it touched down. I don't know where it
is in California. The Bears finally.

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
Sulta Alta, right, yes, I think so to Santa Clara,
which is basically the same place. It's northern California. Yeah,
so he really didn't have to.

Speaker 3 (01:23:00):
Travel far too much. Just literally just take the pro
gig in northern California because it doesn't even have to
move probably, yeah, because they Santa Francisco, Santa Clair.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Yeah, it's nor cal Yeah. Right, then he takes off.
He wants to coach his alma mater, which he does.
Now he's back in southern California. Whereas, again, John Harbaugh
was a defensive coordinator for your If you remember your
Philadelphia Eagles. That's how he got the Ravens head coaching gig.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
I didn't actually realize that. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
He was one of the hot commodities in the two
thousands into the twenty tens. And now it's it's thirty one, seventeen,
third quarter, the Dolphins leading the Bears, Classic Monday Night Football.
Here on the playback and jaydaug and CJ and we
try to do the on side kick. Sometimes that happens
at a little backfire.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
It didn't even look like they tried to onside it,
like he kicked it right at him all. But I
get the point, like you're trying to get it to
bounce off of him. Yep. So John Harbaugh, I'm trying
to see it doesn't actually say hold on. I wanted
to see. When he was a defensive coordinator for the Eagles,

(01:24:18):
he was a two thousands. From ninety eight to two
thousand and six, he was the special teams coordinator for
the Eagles, and then from two thousand or for two
thousand and seven, he was the He wasn't even the
defensive coordinator. He was a d back coach, and then
he became the Ravens coach. Since since he's.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
One of the is he the longest tenured head coach
in the NFL from one team to the next? I
mean from one team on? He might be right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
When did Tomlin take over?

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
Oh seven?

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
So yeah, I was gonna say to division Tomlin's been
around for all Yeah, so it's Tomlin, then Harbor.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Isn't it trying to be right?

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Yeah? Because Pete's on a new team? Maybe Andy Reed?
Andy Reid, I think it was too that well, he's
been with the Chiefs for a while now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
When was his first year with Kansas City? Off hand?
You know, let me look it up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Oh, what a drop because it was dropped it. It
was probably around the same time Harbaugh took over the Ravens.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
Uh, Dan Marino, I hated this logo, by the way,
I know, this classic old school looks like a sardine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:30):
It looked like a dolphin. Is that supposed to be
a sunlight? Yes, it's supposed to be like the Miami sun.

Speaker 1 (01:25:39):
So he was.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
Oh no, Andy Reid took over the Chiefs in thirteen,
so he's been their coach for like twelve years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
So Harbaugh has been the head coach with the Ravens Longo.
Wait right, Tomlin, Yeah, Harbor was since eight. You know
who they drafted in O eight right? That was Flacover
Yeah yeah, Flako and Maddy Ryan and Joe Flacco both.
I can't believe that just worked out. Look, Duper is
just gonna walk it into the end zone, just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Trying to be like Billy White Shoes Johnson with the.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Hole the dance, a forty two yard touchdown on the
most improbable play. It wasn't even Duper.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
It was Clayton Clayton yep.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
A tip at the line and the ball flew about
forty yards over everyone's head, right into Clayton, who was
standing there by himself. He threw it right off the
face of the d lineman and then just like thirty
yards down the field off of a balance Mark Clayton
standing there by himself, just crazy and kick Chicago scores.

(01:26:46):
Doesn't matter, Miami, just Waltz is down the field. It's
far from over, but I guess you could call it. Yeah,
I think they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Call old Magic thirty eight to seventeen in the third
quarter and again Galton, Galton again, gall and Gentry, Dennis Gentry,
Willie Gould do I have Do I have Dennis Gentry
starting you even have a starting line of action figure?
They did, by the way, starting line of faction figures
for kickers.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
Did they?

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
I was about to ask you, Yeah, Pete Stoyanovitch of
the Dolphins, Chip lall Miller of Washington, Steve Christie of
the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
Low of the was Steve Christi the guy that missed
the whoa, that wasn't him? That was and the Bears
special teams did dang? Someone tackled this guy. No, that
was Scotty Norwood Gentry taking it all the way to
the Scotty Scotty Norwood is one that missed that. So
and who was it? Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
For Kansas City in the nineties, who was their kicker?

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
It was?

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Uh, he's from Germany.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
So I have no clue hold on them. Hit the mustache,
that's pre that's pre my time, and the and the
kickers are not something I'm fluent with. I was fluent
with kickers, like from the two thousands, probably I could probably.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
You don't remember El del Greco. No, Chris Jackie.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
I feel like that's we've actually gotten to a point
in the NFL where I feel like we're running through
kickers really quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Like, well, what did you expect?

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
I feel like, well, there was a time period where
it was stable, you know, like David Akers was the
kicker for the Eagles for a long time, Adam Van
Terry was around Phil Dawson, Phil Dawson's, they had Sebastian
Janekowski had a job for a while, Mason Crosby, Like
there was a point in time where we had kickers
had a stability, like, you know, there was a stable

(01:28:33):
platform for the kickers like to rely on their job.
Even if you missed a kick or something, it felt
like you weren't going to get kicked to the can.
And then I don't know what happened, but it feels
like since like twenty twenty, there's like maybe three or
four reliable kickers in the league. Like where's Greg Zerline?
Is he even kicking for anyone? Greg the Leg was

(01:28:54):
his nickname like two like two years ago he was
Greg the Leg and he's literally hello, Like now we
got people like Eddie Pinero kicking kicks. Who it's like
we got you know, kickers are just in one door
and out the other. It's the revolving door now the

(01:29:17):
Bears after a great kickoff, are already at Miami's thirty.
It's kind of a shootout here, doc Nick Lowery Nick
Lowry in the nineties. Yeah, he's wearing the one bar.
He went to Dartmouth. By the way, Really, where's he
was born? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
He was born in Munich and right west Germany. Wow, yeah,
that's crazy. He went high school in Saint Albans in Washington,
d C. Played for the Patriots in nineteen seventy eight,
Kansas City nineteen eighty to nineteen ninety three, then the
Jets from ninety four to ninety six. What's funny about that,
is Lowry right was Let's see he was playing for

(01:29:59):
the Jets though int four right starting lineup released his
action figure as a member of the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
He was already gone, Oh interesting, Yeah, so I just
looked something up. By the way, do you know who
the last player to wear a one bar face mask was?
It was a kicker, right, it was a punter, actually punters, Yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
Was it Ryan?

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
No? John?

Speaker 1 (01:30:23):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Phil?

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Ryan? It was you ready, Scott player? Okay, yeah, I
remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
Actually, do you know what team he played for?

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Do you play for Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
No, he was a Cardinals punter. Yes, he played for
the Cardinals and then I think also the Browns. And
he was the last player to wear a single bar.
He was grandfathered in, Yes, and he wore it until four.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Yeah, you can't wear it anymore. No, Trent Dilfer wore
a bar one time.

Speaker 3 (01:30:51):
Look at it. Here's a picture of him on the Browns. Yep,
look at that mustache too.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
If you look up Trent Dilfer, one bar, you'll see it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Trent Dilfer. Yeah, one bar, h.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
Third in inches for the Bears, trailing in this one.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Oh, it's like a little it's like a little two bar. Yes, yeah,
a little two bar.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
That was crazy the Bucks. Yet he was able to
wear that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
This helmet looks too small for him. It doesn't even
look like it fits his head. That looks like a
concussion waiting to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
I think he got one, Actually I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
Wouldn't be surprised. Looks like a concussion waiting. That helmet
looked like it was a toy Fisher Price brand. The
bar at the bar I think might have been Fisher Price.
The bar was set too high for Trent Dilpher's face mask.

Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
It was the helmet's not a toy. The bar is.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
That's crazy, I think, who do you think he see?

Speaker 1 (01:31:58):
Is Gary Claso. Joe cap.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Fulls down another touchdown, McMahon getting hyped. He's got the
headband on high pete.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Yeah, that's wild. Yeah, anytime you wore Adidas.

Speaker 3 (01:32:17):
That was uh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Margin Room's first touchdown since the greatest year of all
time nineteen nineteen, nineteen nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
Eighty three, Thanks Bowling for soup. That was nineteen eighty five.
This is jad Dog doing nineteen eighty three. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Sorry, yet he wears a number eighty two, but he
can't wear eighty three obviously because someone else is wearing
eighty three for doub Bears.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
Dub Bears, this kicker is the most jacked kicker, Like,
I can't believe he has no sleeves. He's rocking a
cutoff jersey pretty much. Surprise. You're not going to see
this dude smoking a cigarette on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (01:32:57):
The broadcast isn't over yet. Thirty eight twenty four third quarter.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Two touchdown game, Bears hanging on. Yeah, as as far
out of reach as it looked at one point, they're
still in it. This last dude, they're this dude's last name.
I thought it was Margarine. That's what it looks it's
it looks like that's how it be your name.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
If your last name is Marjorine, you know what that
makes you?

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Soft? Marjorum. It's got rum Yeah, yeah, you rum and
coke there, Kad, what are you doing? Huh? What the
what the Roman coke? Play football? You sec thanks coach Yashinsky.
Third quarter. I wish there was a bug a lower
third somewhere. Show me the sho do you want to say?

(01:33:49):
Shout out to Frank Gifford.

Speaker 1 (01:33:51):
Yeah, doing a great.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
Job on the commentary. I'm a fan. No play by play,
play by play, Yeah, he's Noel Michaels. Marino's gonna air
it out. Nope.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
Starting to get a little.

Speaker 3 (01:34:02):
Tense though for the Dolphins though, I know they, like
I said, it's not over. No, it's not a cakewalk.
And nothing is guaranteed in football except someone's gonna win
and someone's gonna lose. That's guaranteed, and even then that
that doesn't always had.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
To guarantee either.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
So the dent made the stop there?

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Yeah, putting a dent into this Miami run game, Tony
Nathan seven rushes twenty seven yards, averaging less than four
yards of carry, which is garbage. That is not good.
You need four yards of carryer Elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Was the running game, you know, the only I think
the only running back that was really good for the
Dolphins was Kareem abdul Jabbar in the late nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Good for the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
Well again, there was a guy named Korea. It wasn't
spelled the same way. It was krr k R, I
M Kareem abdul Jabbar.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
He had the same last name, Yeah, Marino with an
absolute canon to no one.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
I have a starting line of action figure too.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
Of Kareem abdull I have two I have.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
I have he played, he played two sports.

Speaker 3 (01:35:12):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I have Kareem abdul Jabbar. The Kareem of course when
you know, yeah, the skyhook. You know one of the greats, right,
and I have Kareem abdul Jabbar. The football player is starting.

Speaker 3 (01:35:28):
One of the not so greats.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Reggie Roby. I think it's the Hall of is the
Hall of Fame?

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
No, I don't think he is number eighty nine, ready
to Oh, I never mind? I thought he was punting.
I was like, no, Yeah, I was like, wait, a
Regnie yan Stener route is in the Hall of Fame
as a punter. Ray guy is in the Hall of
Fame as a punter. That one almost blocked knuckleball a

(01:35:55):
little punt there. Mmm. The Dolphins here, they need to
get it together because they just keep punting the ball away.
Look how close this was, Yike school kind of a

(01:36:17):
flop there, the dolphin out of water flopping. Chicago currently
outscoring Miami in this quarter and they have a chance
to go put twenty one up on Miami in just
the third quarter. It's been a different second half, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Sometimes that happens.

Speaker 3 (01:36:34):
Yeah, that shows who's a good coach and who's not.
That's you can always tell when a coach makes a
good adjustment at halftime, Like you can tell who's a
good coach and who's not by the way their players
come out of the locker room. Coach Dick a solid coach.
I wouldn't say he's necessarily a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
He's in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
He's a Hall of Famer, but that's because of what
he did on the field. Really, I mean, he was
a decent coach, but he kind of screwed or not
Saint Louis, New Orleans when he traded their future for
Ricky Williams, like we were talking about, like that traded
so many picks for one guy who ended up being

(01:37:13):
a great place. Tom Benson the owner, No, it was
coach Ditka, coach dick Well. Benson gave him the Okay, Yeah,
it's a good duck. But I think there's a little
miscommunication between Walter Payton and the offense there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
I think I think Fuller thought that was a run
play and Peyton just stepped back to run to pass block. Yeah,
I was about to make a make a comment on it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
No, you didn't see that a lot back in those days.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
No, Well, most people are wearing one bar still, the
visor wouldn't even reach it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
I think that's why Eric Dickerson wore those goggles.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Was because there was no visor. Yeah, did he did
he have? Well, he wears glasses too, doesn't he. They
weren't like prescription goggles or something.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
Well, he wore Kareem Abdul Jabbar war goggles as well. Yeah,
the sports goggles. Kurt Rambis wore glasses.

Speaker 3 (01:38:09):
That's weird. Who is the speaking of Chicago? Who was
the the bull center who used to wear glasses? Horis Grant,
Thank you. I couldn't think of his name, or not glass.
He didn't wear glasses, he wore goggles. Ye mag rum
over here getting some high steps in doing some crows feet.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
I think they're in their fourth quarter now.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
I still can't believe that to this day at press time,
the Dolphins in seventy two are the only team to
go undefeated.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
And start to finish.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
That's crazy. Having more games is all, it's gonna always
going to make it hard.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
It's going to be yeah. Well to also having more
games is going to make it more difficult to go
winless as well. Oh yeah, because now you've got the
extra opportunity. You've got the rest time. Now, let's say
that you're putting in your beer c squad players when
you've already clinched a first round by you don't need
to put your starters out there now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
And that works both ways again, like going perfect and
going winless, right right, Because the teams that are winless
at the end of the season, it's like the last
two weeks, they almost always have a chance to like
upset one team, especially if the team's just not even trying.
Right third down and thirteen, I think it is still

(01:39:44):
the third quarter, by the way, I don't think it's
the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
It looked like they were, yeah, what.

Speaker 3 (01:40:02):
To quiet the crowd down? What there there? There's no
way that just happened. Control the refs approached Don Shula
asking him to quiet the crowd down? Uh no, And

(01:40:24):
what's he gonna do to to what seventy thousand people?
However many people are in here. I don't know how
many people the Orange Bowl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what you're
just gonna make it worse too, stopping the game and
be like, could you ask them to be nice? Yeah,
let me get right on that. Excuse me, ship the

(01:40:48):
other team wants to win? Hyeah, bet they want us
to lose. Could you quiet down? Please? You've seen?

Speaker 1 (01:40:56):
Oh you have well, you have seen, like on the
twenty yard line when when the offense is you know,
at the home at ice is quiet offense at work?

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
What that's wild? I don't know if I have seen that.
This is not a library and there's no PA system
here for the refs. By the way, we didn't make
a comment on that earlier. But what it's going on here.

(01:41:27):
They're literally trying to quiet that. The cameras are shaking,
the stadium is so loud.

Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Yeah, it's undulating. It's just what are you doing? You
can't tell the crowd not to It's not a library. Yeah,
what we're not going steady?

Speaker 3 (01:41:42):
We're not. We're not steadying where we're not We're not.
It's you know, we're not reading books. Yeah. It's just
also so confusing, like we're gonna sell beer and other
beverages and things that are gonna get these these fans rowdy,
and we're gonna we're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
It's probably a hot, hot summer night in the winter.
It's in Miami South Beach.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
And they're beating an undefeated Bears team. It's one of
the biggest games of the year. And you're like, quiet down, please,
I know you're a little bit excited.

Speaker 1 (01:42:13):
Get cranked.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
What oh what? Fuller's jersey is absolutely torn in half
and down goes Fuller. M It looked like they ripped
the number off his back. What you could do back then, Yeah,
because it's stitch.

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
These were not the most the technology for these jerseys
were not It wasn't Nike.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
Okay, what is that famous? Was it? Earl Campbell got
his jersey ripped off him and like that famous run.
Yeah yeah, look at his jersey. It's absolutely ripped in half,
the flak jackets exposed.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
Could you guys, guys, give me a new jersey?

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
What do you say? Huh? All right, guys, we're gonna
put the red penny on Fuller when he goes back
out there. Don't hit him. Maury Buford with two hundred
and four punts. I think they had those backwards. It
said four yards two hundred and four punts. I think
it's four punts two hundred and four yards. Little shimmy,

(01:43:15):
shimmy hah. I've noticed. I've noticed a lot of return
men in this game have just when they run out
of options or when they think their lane is closing,
they just dropped to their knees.

Speaker 1 (01:43:32):
Like they just.

Speaker 3 (01:43:42):
Both teams are penalized.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
Okay, we've had a PA.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
System this whole time. Dude hasn't made one penalty announcement
the whole game. Fourth quarter rolls around and he's just
like a legal block is going to play like that. Yeah,
they're sending Fuller out there. No jersey.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
That starter hat that's got to sell for a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
The starter hats are sick. That's I My dad had
a even though I'm an Eagles fan. Yeah, I was
really big into hats and shoes. When I was in
high school, I worked at Nike. So yeah, you've mentioned
in the past my my apparel and stuff like that,
and uh, my dad has like a startered leather Giants
hat that was a snap back and the snap backs

(01:44:32):
were duct tape. They were electrical taped because they were
like falling off or I think breaking or something like
a couple of snaps, the electrical tape the snaps. And
I used to rock that when I was in high
school for a little.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
Bit, wearing giants appair. Ye, wearing giants apparel.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I would never do that.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Now someone's gonna take a picture of you and they're
going to expose him.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Expose him never never. I like these graphics too. What
is this?

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
It's the stock market?

Speaker 3 (01:45:08):
Yeah, but what are we doing? Miami's up, Chicago's down,
sell sell? Hell, what do you want me to buy
some Cola stock?

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
What are you thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
Huh? Jade aug will never buy stock, and the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
Well, They've been the same old franchise for a long
time now, haven't they. Yeah, they you know, something different,
something new and now hashtag same old Chicago Bears. I
did the same thing with the Vikings, same old hashtag,
same old Minnesota Vikings, same old Vikes, same old Vikes,
not skull Vikes, same old Vikes.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
The Vikings they missed their window when they had Adrian Peterson.
That was probably the best chance they're going to have
in a long time. They had Jared Allen on that team.

Speaker 1 (01:45:58):
Do they get to the NFC Title Game against Philadelphia
without those guys?

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
Was Adrian Peterson on the fiyard? He wasn't on the
fire years. It was they were together.

Speaker 1 (01:46:08):
That's why. That's why he wanted to go to Minnesota.
Two reasons. Dome so you don't worry about the weather.
And ad Adrian Peterson was at Oklahoma in two thousand,
I want to say six or seven.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
When did they make the NFC Title Game against Philly
though twenty eighteen? Oh yes, yes, yes, with yeah, and
they got smoked. They got jacked up, they did, Oh
they did. The Minnesota Vikings got jacked big time. I
remember that that was I do remember that now, because

(01:46:44):
I was like, I was trying to think like older games,
but twenty eighteen, I guess, is kind of getting We're
getting out there now.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
The Eagles are still relevant, the Vikings are still are
trying to be Yeah, well the Vikings there?

Speaker 3 (01:46:56):
Where are we going? Your just happened?

Speaker 1 (01:47:04):
You've never seen that before?

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
Have no was that?

Speaker 3 (01:47:07):
Net More? He's like, he's like, listen, Dan, I was trying.
I don't know what happened. He got a little confused.
He's smiling, yeah, because he realizes he ran. He realized
he ran twenty yards back Look at all, right, so
that's five yards ten, that's ten, that's fifteen fifteen yards.

(01:47:27):
That's fifteen yards after he caught the ball, and then
he gains another two yards. Ran fifteen yards backwards forward,
not back all. He could have just dropped on the ground, yeah,
just fall Like, what are we doing? He ran fifteen
yards backwards? Oh my gosh. It's like when you watch

(01:47:49):
someone put a basket in the wrong hoop in basketball
and you're just like, what are we doing?

Speaker 1 (01:47:56):
Net More?

Speaker 3 (01:47:57):
Get get Clayton off the field, Clayton, what are we doing?
Just keep the ball in nat Moore's hands. That was crazy.
It's one of the most wild players I've seen. That's
that's got to take the cake for the wildest play
on the playback so far or on athletic Yes, okay,

(01:48:17):
that was that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:48:20):
Not morey four years old, which is ancient in football.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Yeah, in that time. I was gonna say, in today's time,
thirty four years old. You know, like if you're a
skill position player specifically like maybe no, maybe not a quarterback.
Quarterback lasts a little bit longer. But the animal stuffed them. Yep,
the animal and that's the third quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:48:46):
That's going to do it for the third quarter on
Monday Night football. It's not etston Stone that the Miami
Dolphins have this thing in the in the bag.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
No, if they can score here, they'll at the Orange Bowl.
They'll stretch it a little bit. But it's still a
game right now. Yeah, thirty eight to twenty four into
the fourth quarter, they're past midfield. H Dan Marino. I
will say it's been a pleasure watching him play. He

(01:49:17):
hasn't aired it out in the second half. It's almost
like he lost some steam. But his wide receivers are
pretty solid.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
I guess I mean that see that was an issue
for the That was an issue for the for the
Dolphins in the nineties. They didn't have a running game
and they didn't have really good defensive players either. They
would have the offense to protect Marino to chuck the ball,
but you know, chucking the ball doesn't win games.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
Sounds like the Bengals. Oh, stripsack. I think the Dolphins
got it back because Chicago tried to. The Chicago player
tried to pick it up and run.

Speaker 1 (01:49:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
The first thing you're taught as a football player, if
there's a fumble, yep, fall on it, you don't pick
it up up because you don't be the hero. Just
get the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
You're already gonna be the hero if you're on the ball.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Right, reverse angle, dent with the strip sack.

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
He is just everywhere, isn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
Yeah, look at sit what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Third and twenty three?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Oh, Dan's got this in the bag. This is this
is Dan marino territory right here. He's just gonna gun
sling a fifty yard bombed a super duper and we're
gonna be good to go. Okay, rolling out? Nope, and
not even close. Say psych right now, psych Psych? Dan

(01:50:52):
shakes his head in frustration. Yeah, yeah, no, Well, the
Bears have turned it on in the second quarter or
second half of second half. Allowed only two points in
the fourth quarter over the last seven games. That's what
they gave up. A safety. That was it in seven

(01:51:13):
games and they only points they gave up was a
safety in the fourth quarter. That's crazy. McNeese state.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Reggie Robie off to punt it off.

Speaker 3 (01:51:28):
These jerseys are wild. They look like replicas. They don't
look like authentic jerseys. Oh there's a Robie punt. I
went landing at the five being fielded. Okay, Chicago needs
to score here if they want to stay in it.

(01:51:49):
If they don't score here, I think it's over, especially
because they've been killing the clock. Like they're not like
scoring quickly. Besides the like one big play they had
and like when they got the good kickoff and they
scored like two plays later. Other than that, Chicago really
hasn't been scoring quickly. So they need to score here quick.

(01:52:12):
Seventy five thousand plus at the Orange Bowl, So I
was right. Yeah, yeah, Mike, they want Don Shula to
quiet down seventy five thousand people.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Because he's on the competition committee.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Yeah, it's not fair.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Yeah. Tell it to a Yeah, tell it to a
drunkard in the crowd. There a competition, just like, get
out of here with that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:33):
The rest are just like, don it's not fair. You
guys have home field advantage at your home field. How
is that fair?

Speaker 1 (01:52:41):
You know the sell is going to be here in
a few years and end, and it's not this year. Yeah,
and or the year after. You know, the defensive coordinator
of the Chicago Bears was right, who was Buddy Ryan?
Buddy Ryan would coach your Philadelphia Eagles in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (01:53:03):
It's gonna say, I feel like that name sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Yep, Rex Ryan's dad. I was gonna say, I thought
sexy rexy. Yeah, yeah, Buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Ryan better than Buddy something else. Buddy Duddy Yeah, oh,
I know you're talking about now. Oh, we can't talk
about him, my buddy b W B Dubs. Yeah, yeah,

(01:53:41):
I can't talk about him.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
It's like we don't talk about Bruno, you know, Bruno
Mars No, No, did you like that little Katie Perry?
You can go to space for all I care.

Speaker 3 (01:53:54):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Are you gonna do You're gonna yell that at everyone
she's had a concert refrigerator bear?

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
Did you did? I tell you? By the way, as
the Bears start their offensive drive, I I had Jerry
Azuma Chicago Bears legend. I guess he's a New Hampshire legend.
University of New Hampshire. Yeah, yeah, he uh is fuller

(01:54:26):
fuller coolers coming out. He's limping. Yeah. Does that mean
McMahon's going in?

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Yes, McMahon, Here comes Jim McMahon.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
You know who McMahon reminds me of is like an
eighties version of Matt Stafford almost, not just because they
wear number nine, but I think, like I from the
highlights I've seen of McMahon, he kind of just reminds
me of Stafford, like like his attitude. Jim McMahon.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Yeah, I know where did he end his career?

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
Was it Indy?

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
No, she played for India, I think though he did
also played I thought he played. The last team he
played for was the Bears most hated rival who the Packers.
He won a Super Bowl ring too, He was Farve's backup.
Really Yeah, that's crazy, the ninety sixth season. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
How many players in NFL history have won a Super
Bowl ring with the Packers and the Bears.

Speaker 1 (01:55:27):
It's a very short list. Man had nothing to do
with any of it. In right, Yeah, I mean it
was far so I think he took one. I think
he had one play the final game of the season.
There's again, the Bears have only won one Super Bowl
so whereas the Packers, of course have won four Super Bowls.

(01:55:49):
So McMahon might be the only one. Jim McMahon is in.

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
Two players, Jim McMahon and Mike tom Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
Was tom Zach the back?

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
I think that's how you pronounce it is it's tom Zack. Yeah,
it says Jim McMahon was the quarterback for the Bears
and then he won with the Packers in ninety six.
Mike tom Zach was the backup quarterback for the Bears
and then played for the Packers in ninety one. That's
oh yeah, yeah, exactly. This is why AI sucks, I know, OK,

(01:56:29):
but he did not play in the Super Bowl with them,
so yeah, I think Jim McMahon is the only player
to win a Super Bowl with the Packers and the Bears,
which is crazy because there're two of the longest tenured
franchises in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Biggest right, they are the biggest rival in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:56:48):
Longest ten years. Yeah, what's the biggest rivalry in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
I mean, in my opinion, the Cowboys and the Eagles
is the biggest rivalry. But I know that other people
don't see it that way. I'm biased.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
I don't think they shouldn't even be playing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:04):
I don't think that the the Bears and the Packers
are the biggest rivalry just because the Bears are garbage,
like the Bears my.

Speaker 1 (01:57:12):
Entire like Matt Tyre's shoeing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:15):
Actually, since they since they made the Super Bowl, they've
been irre. Yeah, but I'm just saying at least they
made the super Bowl. Since they've made the Super Bowl
with Rex Grossman, they have been irrelevant.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
Who was who was their head coach?

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
Do you remember? Of the Bears? It was love Smith?

Speaker 1 (01:57:32):
Was Love Smith?

Speaker 3 (01:57:33):
Yeah, he was the first African American head coach to
make a Super Bowl. No, no, was that Tony or No? No,
it was the first Super Bowl that had two African
American head coaches because it was Tony Dungee on Lovey Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:57:47):
That's what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
I remember. There was like something specially the first Yeah,
the first to win it. Yes, yes, and then I'm
pretty sure not the next year was it that? When
did Tomlin make it with the ten eight?

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
It was the eight season into two thousand and nine,
so it.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
Was like two years later. Oh my gosh, Fuller is out. Yeah,
it looks like he's done down.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Did he What did he do?

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
I don't know. He's got an injured FOOTO, No, the ankle.
They're icing his foot. Yeah, it looks like an ankle.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Rugged McMahon takes the sack.

Speaker 3 (01:58:27):
Yeah. Do you think he's almost acting like gun shy
if he's got that injured shoulder, because it looked like
he could have released that, but it looked like he
held on a little longer like he was. And you
can't keep giving it to Walter Payton, right, Yeah, they
have to pass the ball, but it looks like he's.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Like to remember also, in this style of the NFL,
dump passes didn't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
Oh yeah, there's no checkdowns or nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
The West Coast offense, there was no such thing.

Speaker 3 (01:58:56):
Really, it's pretty much aired out or run it.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Yeah, you didn't have the dump passes, you know. The
Niners I think were the ones that really Yeah, yeah,
and you know who the offense I think you yeah,
I think it was either the quarterbacks coach or the
offensive coordinator or all behind all of that. In the
West Coast offense.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
I know Jim Walsh was the head coach, Bill or
Bill Walsh. I don't know why I said Jim as
we're watching Jim McMahon.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
Yep, oh oh right in the bread basket. The coach
that was Mike Holmgren. Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
Well yeah, if you look at the Bill Walsh like
like coaching tree, yes, he's he's touched so much still.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
Yes, like not just Dennis McKinnon has a knee injury.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
Like not just like the people that worked for him
at the time. Yeah, they went on to do incredible things,
but also like the people that worked for him at
the time, like Mike hole Grin, Holme Grin, yeah, home Grin, Yeah,
Mike Holmgren, like he had great people work for him
and vice versa. Like so Bill Walsh has like touched

(02:00:06):
so much of today's football. It's a nice pass by McMahon.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
And they may negate it. Nope, Nope, it's on the Dolphins.
The punky QB there he is. That's what he called
himself in the Super Bowl shuffle.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
That's what I'm saying. He reminds me of like Stafford,
not that Stafford's really a punk, but like he's almost
like a mix between Stafford and like Baker. That's kind
of the vibe I get from McMahon. It's like, because Baker,
Baker's a good quarterback, but he's got like that kind
of like chip on his shoulder attitude where he's always
competitive with everyone, like well, which which I like. I

(02:00:54):
like that pain of that. Baker h.

Speaker 1 (02:00:58):
Nine thirteen to go in the game, are driving, Bears
are driving.

Speaker 3 (02:01:01):
Oh yeah, they're still down two touchdowns though, I mean
they've got to score.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
Yeah, score and stop Marger him again.

Speaker 3 (02:01:14):
I'll say this, Oh, looked like he was hurt for
a second. McMahon a lot faster than Fuller, like in
the in the pocket and out of the pocket. Fuller
seems like he gets rid of the ball pretty quick.
But just from watching McMahon the differences right now, like

(02:01:36):
it looks like McMahon is much like quicker at reading
the field.

Speaker 1 (02:01:42):
Mm hmm. I think he mooned the camera a faraway
camera like an airplane shot during Super Bowl week in
New Orleans. I remember they also the Bears were introduced
to Gator pizza.

Speaker 3 (02:01:57):
Gator pizza. Yeah, what is Gator your pizza? I don't know. Oh,
like all you're saying, like Gator on pizza in New Orleans. Yeah, huh.
I didn't think that Gator was big in New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
Gator is massive in New Orleans. I mean, good times roll.

Speaker 3 (02:02:14):
Like I I I guess it makes sense. I just
I thought Gator was a Florida thing. I mean I
I've eaten Gator before. I had Gator in Florida. Gators
to Gator pizza. No, there's a place in my like
near my father in laws down in Florida that does
Gator nuggets, the Gator bytes. Yeah, those are good or
I don't know where it is, Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:02:34):
So I went to Gator Bytes in Fort Myers, So no,
this is in I think I've never actually seen a
live alligator in the city in in Florida. I know
they're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
I'd be thankful. Okay, they're nerve wracking.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. The only time I've seen them
is on my plate. Yeah, which I'm okay with. Yes,
I'd rather be eating Gator than gater eating me.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
Yes, if you end up on gator plate, it's it's
not good. Don't don't be on the plate of a gator, right,
play gator. I've had, yeah, gator nuggets and then gater tail.

Speaker 1 (02:03:06):
They had gatortail in not not in Florida, but in
New Hampshire.

Speaker 3 (02:03:11):
Really.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Yeah, there was a restaurant in Manchester called Nolin's and
I had gator tail, which tasted like chicken.

Speaker 3 (02:03:17):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:03:17):
Now the gator bites I had that was the jowl
of the gator, which tasted like pork. Yes. I had
different varieties of it. I had fried, I had put
in this like wine, sauce I had Uh, it was
different varieties, much like you would get at like somewhere
like Buffalo wild Wing. Yeah. Yeah, like parmejan Cart.

Speaker 3 (02:03:35):
Talk about a little checkdown that was a pitch that
was backwards.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Not Matt Suey, Matt Schoey, Yeah, I like.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
I like that the defensive players are wearing seventies, by
the way, like the d tackles. Yeah, that's something that
kind of went away that was like in the eighties
and nineties. Like nowadays, d lineman where either like fifties
or they're in like the nineties.

Speaker 1 (02:04:01):
Usually a lot of those numbers have been retired. Don't
forget that that too.

Speaker 3 (02:04:05):
But like you know, the great Bruce Smith wore what
was it, seventy two or seventy ninety eight, seventy eight, yes, yes,
But it's like I'm I like when the defensive players,
like the defensive linemen, where well.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Seventies, usually seventies are for offensive line.

Speaker 3 (02:04:22):
Right exactly. So that's why I just like that. It
looks a little different.

Speaker 1 (02:04:25):
It's cool. Oh my gosh, you couldn't do that today.

Speaker 3 (02:04:31):
No, And and McMahon's already like supposed to be like
babying or being ginger on his shoulder and just gets
salam back Moore on his shoulder and like gets like
the dude was holding onto his jersey, climbs back Mike

(02:04:52):
tom Zach right there.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Are they going for it?

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Yeah, I think they are. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
Is that the that's the kicker?

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:05:07):
Oh they want he wanted to kick a field goal.
I mean, but they they kind of gotta go for it.

Speaker 1 (02:05:13):
It's there.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
Even though this is gonna be a long fourth down,
fourth and thirty four. Oh my gosh, this is pretty
much fourth in goal from the forty.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 3 (02:05:30):
What a gun and it's an armed off. It's an
arm punt. Oh and he's not even gonna They're not
even gonna kneel it. They're gonna take it out.

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Wow. Jim McMahon has a bad wing and he's doing this.

Speaker 3 (02:05:47):
Yeah, I mean because Fuller has a bad ankle. Yeah,
it was an arm punt.

Speaker 1 (02:05:55):
Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3 (02:05:57):
He just literally aired it out. The refs hold each
other back here, what's going on? Huh? This one ref
is like, dude, go back to the sideline. I got
this call.

Speaker 1 (02:06:10):
There's the back judge. Okay, okay, six twelve.

Speaker 3 (02:06:23):
Yeah, they needed to go for that. But I mean
it's on Chicago, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (02:06:29):
Or no, it's on Miami.

Speaker 3 (02:06:31):
Yeah, it's on Miami. I think Shole is freaking out.

Speaker 1 (02:06:47):
God.

Speaker 3 (02:06:49):
They called it a touch back because it was in
the end zone. That's a weird rule.

Speaker 1 (02:06:53):
Personal then a personal foul on the.

Speaker 3 (02:06:55):
Bears yeah after that, Yeah, but that's such a weird rule.
Why is it an it's what did they think he
fair caught it? He's like, yeah, no one's around. This
is me over here picking off the ball. That was weird. Yeah,
Fuller is out of commission. They he is all alone

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on his own little table over there.

Speaker 1 (02:07:19):
We're never going to see him again, Nope.

Speaker 3 (02:07:22):
And that was the last we ever heard of Fuller.
I don't think we're going to get a Fuller highlight
game coming up here on the playback anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (02:07:38):
And again time is just leclock is running down siege
and there's Mike Singletary, who was not a good head coach. No,
I think he actually got replaced, you know, or you
remember where he coached, right.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
I'm trying to think. Did he coach in Chicago or
was it Cleveland?

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
He was the head coach of the San Francisco forty
nine ers, who I think I think he got replaced
by Mike Nolan?

Speaker 3 (02:08:04):
Does Mike does he do? Does he do like pregame now,
like for any of the broadcasts, Like I feel like
I've seen him around or something. But I definitely remember
him coaching. I just couldn't remember where. I mean, Yeah,
Miami's just gonna end the game here pretty much if

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they're if they can just run the clock out, it's
game over. Yeah, it's about five minutes left. Tony Nathan
heard me talking crap in the first half and doubled
his yards per game yards per carry from three point
nine to five point nine, almost six yards per carry.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
Tony Nathan yep, mm hmm, Tony Nathan running that clock again,
running the clock out Alabama. By the way, Yeah, yep,
go dogs. They're not called the dogs. He's talking about Georgia,
of course.

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
I mean Chicago made a good run. It's it's pretty
much done now. If they're approaching four minutes, it's gonna
be cionar after that, after they hit the two minute warning?
Is there even a two minute warning here? When was that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:30):
Two minute warning? I think was put in in the
early late seventies or early eighties. Nothing in the fourth
quarter by either team, by the way, in terms of points.

Speaker 3 (02:09:40):
Why did the third quarter felt like a draft?

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
Did?

Speaker 3 (02:09:43):
But the fourth quarter feels like it is flying by? Yep?

Speaker 1 (02:09:49):
Thank you to NFL's channel on YouTube, thank you for this.
And we're watching the playback, and this is the Bears
at the Dolphins. Monday Night Football Classic. Monday Night Football
Season's going to keep going on siege. We've got so
many games going on. Are so many games coming down
the pike, I should say, And I'm going to preview

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one right now. Actually, we're not going to do this
one until the week of Halloween, the Halloween Horse Bowl
between the Broncos and the Colts in nineteen eighty eight.
I want to say, and what's special about it. It's
the first time that Monday Night football was at Indianapolis.

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They had never because they had become a franchise. They
had become the they were the Baltimore Colts, became the
Indianapolis Colts in the nineteen eighty four season, and they
played at the Hoosier Dome, which it was later called
the RCA Dome. So they now play at Lucas Oil Stadium,
which is a different facility.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Right, the.

Speaker 1 (02:10:53):
Forty five to go in the game?

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
Is that John Elway that eighty eight game? Yes? Is that?
But that's before Manning obviously, so way before. Who's the
quarterback for I think it's Jack Trudeau, Jack Trudeau, and
he's wide two stadiums to the left.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
I think that one's headed towards Uh. I think I
think that one's headed towards Tampa.

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
Where where are you trying to send that one?

Speaker 1 (02:11:20):
Buddy? That one might be in Fort Lauderdale at the airport.

Speaker 3 (02:11:24):
That one ended up in the Gulf of Mexico. Oh
my gosh, Walter Peyton eighty yards. Yeah, he's averaging four
yards to carry. That's good.

Speaker 1 (02:11:34):
This is this is sweetness we're talking about here. They've
named an award after him. Yes, Man of the Year,
one of my favorite awards. I love, like award season
in the NFL. And you see you of course you've
seen the patch because they wear the patch on the
on the on the uniform. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:11:56):
Wow that was at the time.

Speaker 1 (02:11:59):
Yeah, but still out it's impresident. That's why you're the
all time leading rusher for a long time.

Speaker 3 (02:12:03):
Where did we say he was? Is he number number two?
Is he number two?

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Yes, no, and then Frank Orr's three, yeah, yes, and
Emtt Smith.

Speaker 1 (02:12:12):
And Smith's at number one, and no one's close.

Speaker 3 (02:12:14):
No, Emtt Smith is like two thousand yards past Walter Payton.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Yes. So it's like, so, Dereck Henry, if Derek Henry
wants to even remotely get.

Speaker 3 (02:12:23):
Close, you've got to play like almost like ten more seasons.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
It feels like he's got to be consistent to the
point of no return.

Speaker 3 (02:12:28):
Yeah, he's got to have at least fifteen hundred yards
for the rest of his career every season, and I
don't see that happening.

Speaker 1 (02:12:37):
Two minute warning.

Speaker 3 (02:12:41):
And desperate jeopardy. Yeah, they would need to score here
and then immediately get the ball back and score again.

Speaker 1 (02:12:46):
One fifty seven to go, Chicago, Miami. It's Miami leading
thirty eight, twenty four, nineteen eighty five.

Speaker 3 (02:12:54):
Here, tremendous. They still got fifty yards to go, two
touchdowns to score. It's just not gonna happen, not in
not in an in an offense that is running the
ball right like, it's just they're gonna have to pass.

Speaker 1 (02:13:17):
It's just McMahon's gonna have to air it out, and
he does. But they're in back the clock stop.

Speaker 3 (02:13:23):
There's just nothing they can do. You can't waste your
time outs, you can't.

Speaker 1 (02:13:28):
And back then, as you know, you didn't rush to
the line like you do now.

Speaker 3 (02:13:33):
Yeah, why hurry up offenses didn't exist back then, That's
what I'm saying, Like they just people are just not
in a rush in the eighties. They're just like.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
Five o'clock traffic. Let me stay right here. Then you're
not coming home till nine.

Speaker 3 (02:13:49):
They throw it and then they just get up. They
stretch when they get done, or they do like a
big first down celebration, even though the clock's running out.
They're just like, yeah, we're not hurrying anywhere. You can't
I hang out. Screw it. You know, it's a football game.
We're losing. Perfect season's gone miss screw it.

Speaker 1 (02:14:07):
Only unbeaten team, only on the line.

Speaker 3 (02:14:10):
Here, let's hand it off. Clock's running. Screw it and
Fumblerooski from the Sweetness and the Dolphins, and that is
officially gamed. That's gonna that's gonna end it. There's your
ball game, Sweetness fumbling it twice. I will say, if

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I ever got a Chicago Bears jersey, Devin Hester is
probably number one for me. But I like getting an
old school like long sleeved jersey like this, Walter Payton
one would be sick.

Speaker 1 (02:14:47):
By the way, if you ever say that in Chicago,
you say Hester Peyton's I don't do that. I know,
don't you do that.

Speaker 3 (02:14:55):
I feel like they got respect for Devin Hester. Though
they're both the greatest at their position. The greatest Chicago
Bear of all time is Walter Payton. He is Walter Peyton.
I'm just saying, yes, Walter Peyton. You know, at at
the time he was the greatest Chicago running or like
he doesn't still still is the greatest yards Damn he

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doesn't get a hundred yards. He's still the greatest Chicago
running back of all time. But what I'm saying is,
like Devin Hester is probably the greatest returner of all time.
Like you would like you would label Devin Hester as
a punt returner slash kick returner on his like position, correct,
you know what I mean? Like he is a returner, yes,

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the specialist, right, he is the greatest returner of all time.
Walter Payton is the greatest running back of all time.
To some I think they they could be considered like similar,
you know, like I think Devin Hester. I know what
you're saying, Walter Payton is the greatest Bear of all time.
But I still think Devin Hester is one of the
greatest players of all time. Like he's the greatest special

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teams player.

Speaker 1 (02:16:02):
Yeah, I don't even think he's in the greatest for
like top ten Chicago Bears of all time, which.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
Is really you don't think he's like the greatest.

Speaker 1 (02:16:08):
Oh I'm saying they did the list he was he see,
But I.

Speaker 3 (02:16:12):
Think that's kind of stupid and it's just because he's
again it's special teams, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:16:16):
Well, it's he was listed as a White Bears have
been around for one hundred years. Yeah, so you're gonna
put Obviously.

Speaker 3 (02:16:23):
There's good players. But again, I just think Devin Hester.

Speaker 1 (02:16:25):
If it was the Jacksonville Jaguars, who have been around
fewer than that, yes, he would definitely be on there.
But I don't think. Yeah, last time I checked, I
think Hester was like number twelve or thirteen.

Speaker 3 (02:16:35):
I still think that. I'm I just I don't know.
I have a lot of respect for Hester. I think
he's again like almost like a Matthew Slater for the Patriots,
like someone that just goes unrecognized, Like Matt Slater played
for the Patriots for like eighteen seasons and he was
a pro bowler for like almost all of them. I
don't know the exact number off the top of my head,

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but he is Matt Slater arguable he could be a
Hall of Famer just because he was a pro bowler
for so long at his position, like one of the
best special teams players. Same with Devin Hester. Like Devin
Hester I think should be in the Hall of Fame
for his work as a special teams player.

Speaker 1 (02:17:12):
One six to go in the game. Are they gonna
kneel it? No, run it, then k neil, then kneil
one minute? What call time out?

Speaker 3 (02:17:22):
What does Chicago have a timeout?

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
Yeah? Yeah, stop the clock.

Speaker 3 (02:17:26):
That was their last timeout. So yeah, they're probably gonna
take a knee now.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
No, Reggie Robbie's gonna pun it. So you know what,
it's not Reggie Robbie's gonna pun it. And then so
there's a chance, yep.

Speaker 3 (02:17:41):
A chance for them to lose by one touchdown.

Speaker 1 (02:17:45):
There or a chance for Walter Payton to pat his stats.

Speaker 3 (02:17:48):
Yeah, hopefully that that would be the only thing, get
him one hundred yards.

Speaker 1 (02:17:55):
Walter Payton, number thirty four, got a dirty jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:18:00):
Yeah, he's taking a beat in this game. It's been
some physical football here in or in the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:18:09):
M hm, okay they are they are going to get
back to Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:18:15):
All right, just give it to Walter Payton. Look at
those Look at the long stripes. He said, not only
would I put my car on it, long stripes. Yeah,
if he can get if he can get two more
yards more.

Speaker 1 (02:18:29):
Yards yeah, and then of course the G you know
what the G s h stands for right. No, George
Stanley hallis Papa Bear.

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
Hellas was he the like owner?

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
He was the original.

Speaker 3 (02:18:41):
Yeah, he was the owner and the coach back when
you could do that, Jerry Joe say the Cowboys are
trying to do.

Speaker 1 (02:18:48):
He wants to he wants to be the coach so bad.

Speaker 3 (02:18:50):
You can tell.

Speaker 1 (02:18:53):
Seets, you can tell. I know, it's like biting his tongue.

Speaker 3 (02:18:57):
I know. It's been like that my whole life. I've
been watching the NFC East my whole life, like specifically,
and he's been like that.

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
And guess what are the street continues?

Speaker 3 (02:19:06):
Nice?

Speaker 1 (02:19:07):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (02:19:08):
Huh? Yeah? Did you hear did you hear Frank Gifford
what he was he was saying? He was like, not
only would I bet my car on it, but I
would bet my house that they give it to Walt
the new NFL record eight straight one hundred yard games.
That's crazy, Like at the time, I mean, I'm assuming
that's been broken.

Speaker 1 (02:19:28):
It had to have been. Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially during
the nineties. Yeah, but at the time, it was look
at Walter Payton, that's gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (02:19:39):
Yep, that's going to wrap up the game.

Speaker 1 (02:19:44):
The undefeated season Perfection is denied. Yes, the Miami Dolphins
defeat the Chicago Bears on Monday Night Football thirty eight
to twenty four at the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:19:56):
Do you think Don Shula popped the champagne in the
locker room or outside of the locker room with the
rest of the boys the seventy two Dolphins. I don't
think they thought about that back then. You don't think so, No,
I think they did in the nineties. Well, that's again,
that's a Chris Berman thing. Yeah, yeah, that's a Chris
Berman thing, a Boomer Berman thing with you know when
you heard the the I don't know how to make

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a sense, Yeah, the quiet pop that. I can't do
it loud, but that's right. Yeah, pop the champagne. Though,
because the undefeated season in nineteen eighty five does not
happen for the Chicago Bears.

Speaker 2 (02:20:31):
You're listening to the playback with Jy Dog and CJ
on the Pulse Podcast network.

Speaker 1 (02:20:36):
Perfection is Denied in nineteen eighty five Siege. This is
the aftermath of the playback, and as we like to do,
we talk about the best bet award as well as
the worst athletic moment, the peak physical specimen best sports nickname,
best mic work, coolest moment, and did it age. Well,
we're all going to start it off with the betting odds,
the best bet Award. If you were betting back then

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in nineteen eighty five and your bookie was ready to
either take a kidney out or some money either or
I'm kind of hoping it's the money and not the kidney.
It needs your kidney to survive. What would the money
line have looked like?

Speaker 3 (02:21:12):
So the bets for this game for the playback, the
money line was Chicago favored favored YEP at minus two
fifty on the money line, okay, and Miami plus two hundred.
That's obviously because Chicago top team, undefeated season, rolling through Miami,

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obviously not like a terrible team.

Speaker 1 (02:21:35):
They're the defending AFC champs trying to get back into
the division race. It was a little bit different for
them in nineteen eighty five before as an age to
nineteen eighty four. Yeah, or Marino was MVP putting up
those ridiculous numbers like video game number right.

Speaker 3 (02:21:49):
And obviously Chicago's team front and back like defense and offense.
We obviously know they won the Super Bowl in eighty five. Correct,
this this team is.

Speaker 1 (02:21:59):
The eighty five. We're not talking about them just because
it's a year.

Speaker 3 (02:22:02):
This is one of the greatest football teams ever assembled.
And badly you know, great coach might dick, you know,
and both both sides are great. But obviously the Bears
are just like one of the top tier talents. So
that's why they're the favorite. Defensively, they are just even
though they're in Miami. But yes, monsters, yes, monsters of
the Midway. Essential is Chicago Bears. Again, Chicago was minus

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two fifty on the money line Miami plus two hundred.
The spread Chicago was favorites at minus six and a
half and that was minus one ten Miami plus six
and a half at minus one ten.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
Theirs were minus six and a half. Yep, what was
the over under?

Speaker 3 (02:22:39):
The over under was forty three and a half points.
The over was minus one oh five and the under
was minus one fifteen. The final score was what thirty four?
So the over hit and the over was closer to
plus money than the under. So I, in theory, you
could have taken that, but the best bet year would

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have been in Miami. Where would you have gone, though, dog?
What would you have done with your money here.

Speaker 1 (02:23:03):
I would have taken the Dolphins on this one.

Speaker 3 (02:23:05):
You were you were? You were leaning fins, Well, I
mean you're a Packers. Correct, you would have never.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
Taken the Bears, don't I don't want to see?

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Yeah, you would have taken the Would you have taken
the Dolphins money line? Or would you have taken like
the over of the under? Ooh?

Speaker 1 (02:23:17):
Like which one money line for the Dolphins?

Speaker 3 (02:23:19):
You still think you would have stuck with the money
line for the Dolphins?

Speaker 1 (02:23:21):
How much I would have gotten?

Speaker 3 (02:23:22):
That would have been the best bet? Yeah, I mean
plus two hundred. I think what is it? Plus one
hundred is basically doubling your money plus two hundred. I'm
not sure. I don't have, uh the capability to look
it up, but I'm pretty sure like five bucks turns
into like either like ten to fifteen bucks.

Speaker 1 (02:23:35):
You know you're which was a lot back in nineteen
eighty five, Yes, exactly, you could stretch you a little far.

Speaker 3 (02:23:39):
Fifteen bucks would would go a long way in nineteen
eighty five.

Speaker 1 (02:23:43):
So, okay, the worst athletic moment, what went terribly wrong?
Was it a choke collapse or just playing bad luck?
You know where I'm going with this, don't you.

Speaker 3 (02:23:52):
I don't know if I do. Tell me your best
athletic moment one of the actually I do, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:23:56):
Okay, one of the Marx brothers thinks he's got forward
progress and then he decided to run back. What are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (02:24:02):
Mark Clayton runs fifteen yards backwards. He only got like
two or three catches I think in this game. Yeah,
and one of them was like minus fifteen yards. Like
he didn't actually lose fifteen yards, but from the point
of where he caught it, he ran fifteen yards backwards.
He literally could have just fallen on the ground all
you had to do and gotten more yards. So yeah,

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that's got to be the worst athletic moment. Dog, What
is your peak physical specimen?

Speaker 1 (02:24:27):
That's my job to tell you.

Speaker 3 (02:24:28):
I know, I know. I figured i'd help you out
here for a quick second.

Speaker 1 (02:24:31):
I don't need your just kidding. I'm just kidding. The
ash as the Siege the Peak Physical Specimen Award who
looked like the ultimate athlete physique, endurance, dominance. Walter Payton
is still still in his prime, gets the one hundred
yards and he got in this Miami heat and everything.
Miami Heat there you go see Monday night football. Probably

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not as hot and sweltering as it would be in
you know, July. Still he's still with the sweetness, looks effortless.
You didn't see him look tired, you didn't see him look.

Speaker 3 (02:25:06):
Forlorn.

Speaker 1 (02:25:08):
He still looked like he with the greatest of ease
despite two fumbles.

Speaker 3 (02:25:11):
By the way, Yeah, well that's the only reason why
I'm gonna put him down as like an honorable mention.
But for me, I can't make him peak just because
he had not the greatest.

Speaker 1 (02:25:20):
Game Richard Dent.

Speaker 3 (02:25:21):
Maybe I almost said Dent. Dent was probably the biggest,
like physical force on the defensive side of the game
for either team. Really, I feel like he stood out
more than anyone. But I think I have to give
it to Marino. I think Marino, you're giving a quarterback
that's not Tom Brady. When you see Tom Brady's physique. Yes,
I think that Marino like maybe not like physically looking

(02:25:45):
the best, but this is prime Marino.

Speaker 1 (02:25:48):
Like he oos Einhorn said something you didn't she.

Speaker 3 (02:25:52):
No, I think I think this is prime Marino. I
also wanted to mention Nat Moore. I thought he looked incredible,
that even though like he.

Speaker 1 (02:26:01):
Not like that was not the Marks Brothers, but he
didn't have to be. He used the ultimate decoy and.

Speaker 3 (02:26:05):
Had a great game. He had an incredible game. So
I wanted to say, I think I wanted to give
it to all three, like Dan Marino, not More and
Walter Payton. Yeah, because I think they all deserve it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:13):
Look at Dent, though Dent was a beast Dent two.

Speaker 3 (02:26:16):
I think the only reason I can't give it to
Dent is just because the defense let up so much,
not him specifically, because honestly he was stopping the run
game for my outive. It was more like the secondary
was just getting cooked by Chicago, Like Chicago's secondary just
got absolutely it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:31):
So funny because Dave Dorrison, you know it was actually
a pretty good defensive back. I actually have his starting
line of action figure as well, and was very good
in this eighty five season. If you had to glare
a weakness though the secondary for the Bears.

Speaker 3 (02:26:46):
Thought that it's bad.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Yeah, like you said, it's just a front line of
Steve Mongo, McMichael, Richard Dent, Mike Singletary and the animal
Dan Hampton. You gotta win a super Bowl with those
four guys.

Speaker 3 (02:26:59):
Yeah, if they didn't win a super Bowl, it would
have been it would have been more of a story with.

Speaker 1 (02:27:04):
The Mets of eighty six, with the talent that they had.
If they had never won, you would have said, what
are you doing? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:27:10):
How do you let that happen?

Speaker 1 (02:27:12):
Right? Best Sports Nickname Award? The most lexendary nickname? You know,
is it fitting? Is it all the above? What is it?
Who's your nickname?

Speaker 3 (02:27:20):
It's gotta go Sweetness, sweetness, Walter Peyton, Yeah, yeah, I
know that.

Speaker 1 (02:27:24):
There's a.

Speaker 3 (02:27:26):
Good one. That's a close one. I I like also
like the Marx Brothers, Like I like the did you
get It? Yeah, and it's like ult it's more than
one person, super duper, super duper also actually yeah, super
duper's got to be uh up there. But I feel
like sweetness is one that like most sports fans, those

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football fans, that's Walter Peyton.

Speaker 1 (02:27:50):
Yeah, they know that's sweetness. That's all they know.

Speaker 3 (02:27:53):
Who sweetness, that's the guy right there exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:27:55):
So Walter Peyton's sweetness right there. And also Steve Mongo McMichael,
I like that too, Mungo, Yeah, yeah, that's a good one.
His Mongo of course became a pro wrestler and an
announcer for w c W.

Speaker 3 (02:28:07):
Yes and uh.

Speaker 1 (02:28:08):
We move on to speaking of pro wrestling and mic
work and the like best mic work, who talked the talk,
best interviews, trash talker sound bites. Frank Gifford is not
known for play by play this night, though he is
part of history. And he paints the picture.

Speaker 3 (02:28:24):
He's not how do I say this, stealing the limelight?
Almost Okay, he's not stealing the limelight.

Speaker 1 (02:28:30):
He's saying what he needs to say without saying too much.

Speaker 3 (02:28:32):
Yeah, and he paints the picture, Yeah, perfectly for the
viewer at home. Uh, adding more detail because like when
we're when there's audio like radio. What you laughing? Because
I almost at the John Madden there.

Speaker 1 (02:28:45):
No when you said when you said the viewer, I
was going to say, you saw planes, trains and automobiles.
With Steve Martin and John Candy, right, remember when they're
getting into it, Steve Martin goes, here's a thought to
have us when you, when you tell a story, make
a point.

Speaker 3 (02:29:02):
That's much more easier for the listener. But I just
he makes a point. It's much better for the viewer.

Speaker 1 (02:29:11):
Let me do the Chatty Kelly. Right, yeah, Hey, Frank Gifford,
when you're telling a story, make a point much easier
for the viewer.

Speaker 3 (02:29:24):
That's good, that's no, that's uh. Frank Gifford was uh.
And again, we've never seen him as play by play.
We've seen him introduce This is the first time we've
seen any athlete play by play.

Speaker 1 (02:29:32):
We've seen him as the action analyst on Monday Night
Football during you know, the al Michaels Dan Dierdorf era. Right,
we've seen that, and now you see him as And again,
he was not play by play for very long because
al Michaels came in there and became the guy. Keith
Jackson was concentrating on college football and wanted a lighter schedule.
And uh, but Frank Gifford, I think I give it

(02:29:54):
to Frank Gifford.

Speaker 3 (02:29:56):
Name it almost if I didn't see him in the pregame,
I would have known. Yeah, he's like pretty like you
know secondary.

Speaker 1 (02:30:03):
Here's the thing about here's the thing. You've got two
New York legends, essentially, Frank Gifford New York Football Giants
and the greatest New York Football jet of them all,
Joe Willy Namath. You'd think Joe Willy Namath on Monday
Night football would.

Speaker 3 (02:30:19):
Be like excited.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
It felt like he was just kind of like mundane.
Yeah he was mundane. Yeah yeah, And he was like
that on NBC as well, and then they put him
in the studio and he would just I don't.

Speaker 3 (02:30:29):
Know what it was with Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:30:30):
It's almost like a lot are expecting the Broadway Joe
character to essentially become the guy.

Speaker 3 (02:30:36):
Yeah. I feel like a lot of quarterbacks do that.

Speaker 1 (02:30:38):
Though.

Speaker 3 (02:30:38):
I feel like Brady we talked Brady is.

Speaker 1 (02:30:42):
You know, you mean mister conflict of interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:30:44):
Yeah, his broadcasting is not the greatest, Like he's not. No,
I mean I think he's gotten better this year so far,
but his rookie his debut season.

Speaker 1 (02:30:53):
How much longer is that gonna lie?

Speaker 3 (02:30:55):
Yeah exactly, Well that's the same. And and even like
Joe Montana, I've seen him do interviews and stuff and
he's not like electric. But I but I do I
think Joe Nameth or Joe Montana excuse yeah, I think
he's gotten better as he's gotten older doing interviews, Like
he's more humorous, which kind of like any.

Speaker 1 (02:31:17):
You mention that when he retired when they lost to
the Dolphins on the nineteen ninety four wild Card game. Right,
yeah from the chiefs. Yes, NBC hired him as a
studio analyst and he was one and done. Yeah it
was not good.

Speaker 3 (02:31:32):
Yeah, I'm I'm not surprised.

Speaker 1 (02:31:35):
Not action analyst in the booth. I'm talking like, oh,
on the table, the studio panel, yeaheah, Oh, you'd look
in the camera. He'd get the names wrong, he got
it just it was not good. He would stumble, it
was not good.

Speaker 3 (02:31:46):
Some people aren't made for It's not like Joe Montana
was a professional quarterback. That was his job. Yes, he
doesn't need to try and take on another career. He's
Joe Montana, right, Like you don't need to be on TV.
It's okay. It's some people just.

Speaker 1 (02:32:02):
Have this thing in terms of fighting for relevance for
some bizarre reason, even in this day and age of
the Internet. Yes, forget television, Yes, forget the important medium
of television. We're still trying to fight for that fifteen
to twenty more minutes of fame. We're still trying to
you know what I mean. Yeah, No, we don't need
we don't need to do that.

Speaker 3 (02:32:21):
Yes, yes, you're Joe Montana, Yes, exactly, And that's I
feel like Nameath. He didn't embarrass himself.

Speaker 1 (02:32:28):
He's just not.

Speaker 3 (02:32:29):
He's just not.

Speaker 1 (02:32:30):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (02:32:31):
If you have such high expectations.

Speaker 1 (02:32:33):
For someone that you came in there with Joe wille
Namath becoming an action analyst, you're thinking you're getting Broadway Joe. Oh,
you're getting what he felt. Playing with these guys, what
you see, what you feel, what they're feeling, what you
think they're feeling.

Speaker 3 (02:32:49):
And the thing is, you know, it's funny you say
that the way you feel, the way they feel, the
way what they're thinking, what they're feeling, And that's what
we want as like a listener, a fan of you
to hear is all of that literally describe that. But
quarterback not I say quarterbacks because a lot of the
guys we're talking about our course, for.

Speaker 1 (02:33:08):
The most part, the analysts, most of the action analysts
are quarterbacks or at one.

Speaker 3 (02:33:13):
Time right, And the ones that are we think could
use a little work. I feel like they can't express
how they're feeling or how or what they're thinking. Almost
it's like they how they're very methodical about how they
do things. They go about things. But then like when
I'm watching Tom Brady broadcast, I want to hear like,
all right, Tom, you're the quarterback in the situation. What

(02:33:36):
are you doing when you walk up to the line
and what are you seeing? And when Tom talks not
all the time. And again I think he's gotten better
this season, but last year a lot he would just
be like he's a really good football player and he's
giving a lot of effort. And it's like Tom, anyone
can say that, like I want to know what a

(02:33:58):
professional quarterback.

Speaker 1 (02:33:59):
Of your stafe your Thomas Edward Brady right, like, please
start acting.

Speaker 3 (02:34:03):
Like you know more football than me. Tell me what
I want. I want to learn what you have, like
you got to teach each Yeah, And that's the thing
is like that became Joe Morgan's problem in the tourten
the end of his career, or Middleton in baseball in baseball,
is that he wasn't he wasn't teaching us anything, right, Yeah,
you're just saying what's there as opposed to like like

(02:34:23):
sharing knowledge that like a player.

Speaker 1 (02:34:25):
As an MVP second Hall of Famer, second basement Hall
of Famer would do.

Speaker 3 (02:34:29):
Yeah. So I just yeah, so I think Gifford. I
think Gifford wins it name. It is almost yeah, like
just a guy.

Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
Yeah, but to New York Titans, essentially New York legends. Yes,
and you got Giants, you got Jets. The Giants guy
who's famous for that photo of him being laid out
essentially is the one that that gets it done, who's
really not known for the gift of gab as opposed
to Joe Willie. You're supposed to be again that this

(02:34:58):
is what we were expecting, you know, and yeah, didn't
get it. Coolest moment, the absolute chillest, sickest moment, celebration
walk off or an icy stare down. We got none
of that. You know what we got. We got an
undefeated season that's not going to happen. You got a
moment where it looked like the impossible was going to happen,
and the seventy two Dolphins were going to be bested

(02:35:22):
by a team of the Chicago Bears. Now Here comes
the team that had the record for undefeated going in
there in their home stadium, defeating a team that wanted
to emulate that team from the seventies, that same franchise,
the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (02:35:39):
Yes, so the thing that you said at the top,
the history between these two teams or the almost like
the similar stories, Yeah, are It's uncanny how similar their
paths are.

Speaker 1 (02:35:51):
You think Don Shula, who was part of that seventy
two team as a head coach, was going to allow
the Chicago Bears on Monday night football in late in
December and late in the season in Miami, in Miami,
in their home field at night ruin the moment, I
don't think so.

Speaker 3 (02:36:12):
I want to give an honorable mention for my coolest moment. Yeah,
and you're gonna think it's silly, Okay. The refs asking
Don Shula to quiet down the crowd. I've never seen
something like that in my life. They're literally like, yeah,
these seventy five thousand people, could you ask.

Speaker 1 (02:36:29):
Them to shut their yaps a little bit for any
down for like thirty seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:36:33):
The Bears are having a tough time winning and they're undefeated,
and we want it to be fair.

Speaker 1 (02:36:38):
Yeah, because you guys shut your yaps for about get
on a couple of minutes so we can drive down
the field and have no reaction.

Speaker 3 (02:36:43):
That's my honorable mention. But I obviously that's not part
of the game. But my coolest moment is Sweetness breaking
the record for most The record.

Speaker 1 (02:36:53):
At the time had games in a row of one
hundred yards or more rushing, not all purpose rush.

Speaker 3 (02:37:00):
Yes, because I think the game was there wasn't one
specific moment that really won the Dolphins the.

Speaker 1 (02:37:05):
Game, Like, it was mainly that they were just able
to kind of get they got a out of the game.

Speaker 3 (02:37:10):
Yeah, they got out early and then they just couldn't
be stopped.

Speaker 1 (02:37:12):
The Bears usually were good at stopping people to try
to get to the game.

Speaker 3 (02:37:16):
Right and it felt like so I gave it to
Sweetness because I thought it was nice that at the
end of the game they were able to still get
that done with like under a minute left. He kept
the streak going, So that was cool.

Speaker 1 (02:37:26):
Padding the stats, well, if you're going to pad the stats,
you might as well have an all time living legend
do it. Yeah, it's not some you know rookie that
you know just trying to get ay. That reminds me
remember when Gronk needed two more catches to get that
bonus with Tampa Bay.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
And everything, where it's like Baker last year he again
Tampa Bay Bucks. Yeah, with Mike Evans he purposely went
after yes, like Mike Evans, to try and get him
the bonus, and it set like a was it a
record for like most consecutive one hundred or one thousand
yard seasons or something? Yeahutive like thousand yard seasons or something.

Speaker 1 (02:38:05):
So did it age well looking back? Does it hold
up any context changes or does it feel cringing out?
This game holds up because I'll tell you why. The
nineteen ninety eight Denver Broadcos, right trying for the undefeated season,
went into the meadowlands for the Giants, not the Jets,
the Giants, and the Giants were not very good that year.

(02:38:30):
They didn't have a lot going for him. But you
know on that one Sunday, Kent Graham, Kent Graham and
the New York Football Giants taking on the almighty Denver
Broncos with Terrell da Terrell Davis as you're at at
that at that when the season would end would be
the NFL m v P John Elway because they were

(02:38:52):
already the defending Super Bowl champs. Yes, Shannon Sharp, who else,
oh what's his face? Stink Mark Schlerath who was I
think was on that team?

Speaker 3 (02:39:02):
Did they have did they have like Romanowski on that team.

Speaker 1 (02:39:04):
Romanowski on that team? And wait, hold on?

Speaker 3 (02:39:08):
Was he he either played for the Raiders or the
or the I think I know he played for both teams,
but I couldn't remember.

Speaker 1 (02:39:13):
Romanowski on that team. I believe he was. I have
to check back on that. Also, Neil Smith.

Speaker 3 (02:39:20):
What was the quarterback's name for the for the Giants?

Speaker 1 (02:39:23):
Oh, Kent Graham.

Speaker 3 (02:39:24):
Kent, go ahead and say it, Kent Graham. What the who.

Speaker 1 (02:39:31):
Kent Graham?

Speaker 3 (02:39:32):
Yeah? And he they So they beat the They beat
the the Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:39:37):
And then the following week on Monday Night Football, the
Dolphins rounced the Broncos, leading the NFL experts to say,
maybe it's not in the cards for the Broncos to
repeat it. They did, but because it's funny, that game
was in Miami between the Dolphins and the Broncos. Right
weeks later, the Super Bowl was in Miami, and who

(02:39:59):
was in it? The Broncos, the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 3 (02:40:02):
So that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:40:03):
John Elway had his last laugh. Yeah, yeah, Elway versus
Marino though, how about that?

Speaker 3 (02:40:08):
What a matchup that?

Speaker 1 (02:40:09):
That's another game we should we should go at some point,
We'll have to not going to be in twenty twenty five,
we'll have to.

Speaker 3 (02:40:13):
Take requests at some point for like best matchups, like
quarterback matchups.

Speaker 1 (02:40:18):
They still have it, it might not even be there. Yeah,
we're trying to find like Caitlin Clark's first WNBA game
and they're still trying to find. So you said, yes,
this age as well. Because it's on Monday Night football,
the Bears are trying to make history against the team
that made history and the Miami Dolphins. There's so many
storylines that make it hold up.

Speaker 3 (02:40:35):
I think that it does because again, my whole thing is,
can you take this and show it to someone who's
never seen football and convince them that it's a good sport.
Like if that's the case, then yes, and it's The
commentators are good. Frank Gifford, Yeah, paints the picture perfectly,
the whole game.

Speaker 1 (02:40:56):
And again, he's not a play by play guy, he's
an action analyst. He's play by play. This season of
eighty five.

Speaker 3 (02:41:02):
Dan Marino one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time,
the Chicago Bears. The nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (02:41:08):
People are still talking about.

Speaker 3 (02:41:09):
One of the greatest teams of all time. Don Shula,
the greatest head coach of all time, the most the
winningest head coach of all time in the NFL. And
then on the other side another great coach, Mike Ditka,
Hall of Fame player and coach. It's everywhere you look
in this this broadcast is just greatness from Walter Payton.

(02:41:31):
Sweet sweetness. Yeah, you know you've got the Marx Brothers,
two great wide receivers, one of.

Speaker 1 (02:41:37):
Them were in Clayton, who were not Hall of famers,
but they were still part of great talent.

Speaker 3 (02:41:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:41:41):
Absolutely, they made Dan Marino essentially. Yeah, and uh, Marino
made them. But at the same time Marino.

Speaker 3 (02:41:47):
Yeah, well they didn't. They didn't really become them. And
Marino is him, you know what I mean. That's like
I get you the guys. Yeah, And I mean I
just think this is a great This is a classic
football game, Like this is the game if if there
was a classic channel that showed old footage of old
sports games still even though it doesn't exist anymore, but

(02:42:11):
if it did, this would be one that would be
played on there. Yes, you know, if if there was
if the playback was a was a television channel, this
would be played on there. So I think, yes, this
does hold up. Yes, we've done playbacks that we that
you think no and that I think no, and or
I'll say yes and you'll say no, or you'll say
no right right like, and I think that there are

(02:42:36):
ones that there are sporting events that we've covered that
aren't great, you know, but there are still pivotal to
time and their story needs to be told. But does
it hold up today compared to today's sports, like thirty
eight twenty four, Yeah, it's more points sporting ago some
games today.

Speaker 1 (02:42:54):
It was forty years ago. Yeah, on Monday Night Football
and ABC by the way, yeah, what was.

Speaker 3 (02:42:58):
We won the Bengals in brown scored like seventeen and sixteen.
This was thirty eight twenty four to two great teams.

Speaker 1 (02:43:06):
Are you ever gonna put that as a play Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:43:09):
Instant Classic Week one of the twenty twenty five season
Bengals and Browns.

Speaker 1 (02:43:14):
Yeah no, no, but yeah, there was an instant Classic
on there. But of course we're gonna We're gonna do
it next year. We're gonna do Classic Sunday Night Football
because twenty now Sunday Night Football has been around for
a while. It's been on TNT, ESPN and now NBC
but we're gonna be doing twenty years of NBC with
Thursday Night Football because Sunday Yes, Sunday Night Football. Excuse me,

(02:43:34):
so yes, SNF, not T not TNF F Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:43:39):
And Sunday Night Football. I'm excited for that. I love
Monday Night and growing up, I think during the time
period I grew up, it was Madden and Michaels, And
that's why I'm such a huge owls Al Michaels fan.
And he did the nineteen eighty you know, do you
believe in miracles?

Speaker 1 (02:43:55):
Like well, he was part of the nineteen eighty Winter
Olympic coverage on ABC.

Speaker 3 (02:43:59):
Right, and so there's other things that other reasons why
I like him. But when I was growing up, I
liked Monday Night. I liked watching Al and John do
Monday Night for a short period of time together, but
then two to five.

Speaker 1 (02:44:12):
But then when then went to Sunday Night, when.

Speaker 3 (02:44:14):
They went to Sunday Night, So it's pretty much for
me Ben Sunday Night Football. Ever since, I've been a
huge NBC Sunday Night FO When.

Speaker 1 (02:44:22):
When when, well, when Sunday Night Football my dream network?
You know what my dream network was? What you're NBC yeah, yeah,
me and you have talked about so going to NBC
getting NFL football because they had lost it after the
after Super Bowl thirty two, the Broncos and the Packers.
They didn't get football back until the two thousand and
six season.

Speaker 3 (02:44:41):
That's crazy to think about that. They just had no football,
had no football, that's all they had the XFL.

Speaker 1 (02:44:49):
No, No, they got back. They got it back in
six and you know, my dream network got it back.
I'm like, are they gonna get baseball back? Are they
gonna get baseball? Like they're gonna get baseball back in
twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (02:45:01):
It's great for me both ways. Wait twenty more years.
It was great for me both ways because NBC got
football and Disney got Oswald back. So I was either way.

Speaker 1 (02:45:11):
But that wraps it up for a edition of the
Buyback and Monday Night Football Classics is going to roll on.
John Cena's last match is going to be in December.
We're going to be doing one of his classic matches.
It's going to air the day the night of Saturday
Night's made event of his retirement in December in Washington,
d C. We just don't know when that will be

(02:45:31):
Yes late December or or mid or late December, So.

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Speaker 1 (02:46:23):
Under the bet this umbrella for the playback, as we've
been saying, and that will continue more Monday night football
classics down the pike as it were all six games
of the nineteen ninety five World Series I'm gonna trap
this guy in this room and we're gonna do four
or five games in a row simultaneously while I pay
him a hundred dollars, probably a meal or two.

Speaker 3 (02:46:41):
We're gonna we're gonna stream a whole day of baseball
pretty much.

Speaker 1 (02:46:44):
We just don't know when that will be. It's gonna
have to be by the time the World Series dot ye, yeah,
it's gonna have to be out. We're getting close. I know,
we're inching close Game six of the nineteen seventy five
World Series the Red Sox and the reds If it
stays fair home run, we're gonna do that. And also,
as we said, more Monday Night football down the pike.
We're doing this until the end of December, and coming
in December, we will have the Miracle on Ice Game

(02:47:07):
nineteen eighty Al Michaels and the late great Ken Dryden
calling the action on ABC. We're going to be watching
America beat the Russians. They did, Yes, they did. We
do believe in miracles. We're going to watch that. And
of course the gold medal game was against Finland.

Speaker 3 (02:47:24):
They had to be yes, and everyone forgets that they
did it again. I know, the folks forget people forget
that it wasn't actually the gold medal game.

Speaker 1 (02:47:35):
Yeah, it was to get to the gold medal game.
So that would mean USA one, Finland two, was Russia third,
or might not even ben Rush, you might have been Sweden.
I have to check the yell. We'll definitely check on that.

Speaker 3 (02:47:48):
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Speaker 1 (02:48:11):
Monday Classic, Monday Night Football is going to roll on.
And this was from nineteen eighty five. Yep, we'll do
something that either has a one and a nine in
it or something that has a two in an zero
in it.

Speaker 3 (02:48:21):
Yes, that's just that's that's as far.

Speaker 1 (02:48:24):
As we're gonna go for.

Speaker 3 (02:48:25):
We're not gonna We're not gonna give you any secrets
or surprises. You'll have to stay tuned in, so don't
spoil the big surprise you won't believe your eyes, so
I guess that does it. That does it. We're done here,
We're done here, Thanks Coach.

Speaker 1 (02:48:38):
Thanks to the NFL YouTube channel for this event right
here between the Bears and the Dolphins. Nineteen eighty five.
Monday Night Football, More Monday Night Football classics.

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