The Playback #29---1975 World Series-Game 6

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The following is a production of the Pulse podcast network.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
In this edition of the Playback, Jay Dog and CJ
looked back at the iconic Game six of the nineteen
seventy five World Series as the Cincinnati Reds took on
the Boston Red Sox October twenty first, nineteen seventy five,
from Fenway Park in Boston, mass.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Fifty years ago today. It was one of the greatest
games of all time being played as the Boston Red
Sox take on the Cincinnati Reds. Louis Tion, by the way,
pitching too, who else rose Rose? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Six for eighteen in the World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, this is nineteen seventy five World Series Game six,
fifty years ago today. This classic game happened that yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, the catch first out of the game.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Do you like these hats? They need to wear? These
hats the red Yes, yeah, you're called they're called the
Red Sox. Why did they change these hats?

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I feel like it's just a generic thing for most
teams to go with, like the navy blue blue. Yeah,
that navy blue bass color looking.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Right at me too.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, you're well, as we're speaking, you're you're rocking. You know,
your own red hat yeah, not not.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
A Yeah, Ken Griffy Senior.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Look at this, not not the Reds, but another rede.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Not yeah, the other team from Ohio. Yeah, this one
from the northeast Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yes, so the big red machine here, Yes, the Ken
Griffy SI's junior Griffy Senior.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Griffy.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I know that this is before time. Yeah, it's also
before my time. Yeah, you've been around a little bit
longer than me, you know a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Louis not with us anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Ken Griffy Senior. How good of a ballplayer was he?
Obviously junior was much better? Yeah, a generational talent. But
senior good?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Who's good? Who's good?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
I know that he It's kind of crazy that you
get to see him here in seventy five. Yeah, and
it's crazy to think that he played all the way
till the nineties. Yeah, till his son, Yeah, played like
they played together. That's kind of crazy to like think about.
Look at you know where l first pitched, right, Pittsburgh, No,

(02:40):
no where, Cleveland, Cleveland. He was traded from Cleveland to Boston.
I feel like I've seen him in a Pittsburgh uniform.
But then again, all these pitchers from the seventies with
those handlebar mustache. They all kind of blend together. For
the pirates, I feel it. Well, I have like a
what's the guy's name, like a doc elis pictured like that.
That's kind of what looks like to me, is like

(03:02):
he's got like that doc ellis kind of mustache.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Well, the first person we saw was his dad. Really,
the guy that was smoke had the the Oh okay, yeah,
that's a great nickname, isn't it. Yeah, Eltiante Dick Stockton
on the cald who called games for the Red Sox
and Joe Garrett Giola, the NBC broadcaster. This is what

(03:26):
they did. This is what they did.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
You know what's exciting to meet? Yeah, real quick, the
stadium looks so cool here. It's different. It's nice to
see the stadium in the seventies. Continue you were talking
about the commentators.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yes, what they did is they had the local because
I believe it was WHDH radio where Dick Stockton was
the voice of the Red Sox and Marty Brenneman was
the voice of the reds So in Cincinnati. He would
be on the broadcast with Joe Garrett Giola. So no
Vin Scully, no This was pre Vin Scully on NBC
see nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
When did they start to do national broadcasters in the seventies.
I was gonna say, like out, yeah, because for a while,
I imagine it was just your local broadcast.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You shouldn't have TV deals back in the time. Yeah. Well,
in baseball, the World Series they started doing because they
had ABC, CBS, NBC and Dumont. And talked about Dumont
in the past. Yes, they would have coverage of the
World Series, right, Yeah, because.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
We discussed, uh, they had to like build the bigger
what was it we were in one of our playbacks.
We discussed the they had to build a bigger stadium or
big build a bigger area for more press boxes and
stuff like that for to accommodate for all the different
coverages coming in Joe and talk about the big Red machine.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
See, it's it's interesting. I've I've never watched any of
this Red team play before.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
You've heard about them?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah. Well, my dad is born in seventy and so
he grew up like and I was. When I was
a kid, he would tell me about his baseball stories
and stuff, and he would regell you the big Red
Machine was like always he was like when I was
a kid, it was the Big Red Machine all the time.
They were dominant through the seventies and of course the

(05:14):
Red Sox still this is the Bambino era, you know.
The curse is still well and alive. But still some
amazing talent in those years.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Joe Garrett Jiola would stay with NBC. He'd be the
action analyst next to Vin Scully in the eighties. So
Joe Morgan. Neither of these guys are with us anymore. No,
but still Morgan or Eltiante.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Two talented forces here. These Red Sox hats, by the way,
they do look incredible now just looking at they look incredible.
They don't do enough of They should wear the seventy
five uniforms more like as like a throwback. I think
they did a Carlton Fisk night this season as like
a promotional night or something, right, but they didn't wear
them as those No, but like as a fan you

(06:04):
could get you could get the jersey as a fan,
like it was like a replica Polover, but it they
didn't wear them at the game. I'm pretty sure the
also love the bug like the graphics they keep throwing
this is essentially Yeah, the pop up. This is like

(06:25):
early stage innovative. Yeah, this is considered innovating. People are like,
oh my gosh, I can see the score. No ball,
it looked like an epis pitch. Did look like a pitch. Yeah,
it looked like you talk about a curve ball. It
looked more like he just lobbed it in there.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
No where I met at al where grantitede State Baseball dinner?

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh cool?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Remember those back in the day for the New Hampshire
fisher Cats. Yes, them in Manchester Elton was a fixture
every single year.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's cool. Yeah, he lived locally. I'm assuming I think.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
You lived in Tampa. But again, there was a connection
to the Ted Williams Hitters Museum, which is in Saint Petersburg, Florida,
Ropacanda Field, and there's some local ties there where there's
some people that can fly these guys up. And that's
cool because remember they had the autograph session and then
they would do the meal. Yes, and they would have
the introduction and you know, they would be asked questions
from the audience and uh yeah. Joe Morgan, who of

(07:21):
course we've been watching during the World Series for NBC
for nineteen ninety five as he's Bob Costens's color guy
or action analyst alongside Bob mister Bob Uker, mister baseball.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
So yes, look at the umpire outfits here too. We
want those back dapper look like they look like I
will say, they look kind of dapper, but at the
same time, they kind of look like ushers at a
movie theater, like ticket please, If not.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You're out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
See, like the ump behind the plate looks normal, like
he's wearing a uh a black who's catching it?

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Charlestown, New Hampshire's own Carlton Fisk. What a play born
in Vermont though, because I think he was born at
his aunt's house. But he's a New Hampshire guy.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
So whenever I see whenever I see greatest baseball players
born in each state, it has it has Carlton Fisk
and Vermont. I like, hey, just because he was born there, Yeah,
don't meet No, he's a Charlestown, New Hampshire boy. Fisk
Johnny Bench. See, this is one of the greatest catchers
of all time.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
I again, I grew up playing catcher, and so when
I was growing up, I read Yogi Berra's like biography
or like a biography on him. I read one on
I think Piazza, yep, when I was younger, and I
was a big Piazza guy. Love Veritech, but my dad,

(08:52):
again being born in the seventies, the player I heard
the most about was Johnny Bench. There's no better catcher
than Johnny Bench's Johnny Lee Bench, I've heard my entire life,
still to this day. Although cal Rawly making a good
case for being one of the greatest catchers ever the
season he had this year.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But he's got If he want. You want to be
in Johnny Bench's category, you've got to you got to
continue on. You can't have just one great season. You've
got it for sure for sure. Yeah, yea.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Bench was a career, like you know, top of his
positions player.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Every Some say he's the greatest catcher of all time. Yeah,
I would not argue with that. That's what I've heard
my whole life. Is the greatest catcher of all time.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I mean again, there's been a lot of good catchers, Piazza, Bearra,
you know, I like Tech, There's Pasada, There's you know,
a million great catchers, Pudge, you know, but Bench, Bench
just stood alone at the top of his His category
is his position.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Gets them out of trouble. Now it goes to the
bottom of the first in Boston. Look at that shot.
That was cool city shot there, Satch Davidson. That's a
that's a great name. Art France, Larry Barnett. I love
how it's France.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Cello, it's France, but it's f R A N t
Z not ce right.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
They probably called him Frenchy though.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, send that man to the louver. Art France. What
he's art? He's art. He needs to get to the louver.
He's French, definitely, say Red Sox up to bat leading
off for the Boston Red Sox in Game six of
the nineteen seventy five World Series. See, I wish we

(10:39):
got a score bug of like the roster real quick,
like a lineup. Yeah, woh, big hack is this? When
did they get rid of When did they ban the
uh like spitball.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Forties that was way before this.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, there's no like secret pitching techniques that people are using.
The penny scuff that we told was that this era
probably Yeah, Don Sutton, well, I know Sutton was like
known for trying to.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Had like sandpaper on the inside of his hat, trying
to do whatever he could.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Denny Doyle, What a what a name?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Denny Doyle?

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow? Okay, Denny Doyle safely hit in all five of
the previous World Series games. M Hm, this red Sauce
or this Reds team, I just can't get over it.
For the seventies, the amount of talent this team has,
It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Carrie Nolan, by the way, pitching for the Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Reds lifetime era of two point eight eight almost a
five era in the World Series.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Though Dick Stockton did the NFL for Fox for many years,
did a NBA for I believe.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Uh fumbled by the first baseman, something that the Red
Sox would have as a reoccurring problem in years to come.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Tony Perez, by the way, a Hall of Famer dog.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
I wanted to ask you, so this is older than
me and you yes, When is this the first time
you've ever seen this?

Speaker 1 (12:32):
No?

Speaker 3 (12:33):
When was the first time you saw this game?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
ESPN Classic?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Do you do you remember seeing it for the first
time or do you remember your thoughts like watching it?
You're not a Red Sox fan, obviously you're not a
Reds fan either.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
There's yeahs those two Bench and Yaz would forever be
linked because they both retired in the year nineteen eighty
three after the season, and both were inducted into the
Baseball Hall of Fame eighteen eighty nine.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Really, yep, where would you list Yazz on all time catchers?

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yazz wasn't a catcher or not?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeas. I don't know why I said that. I meant Fisk.
Where would you link like, where would.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
You put Fists up there? There? For sure? Because he
caught a lot of games. He played for only teams
that had the word socks in them?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Where would you put Yazz for all time Red Sox?
Who's actually who's the better all time Red Sox player?
Yazz or Fist?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Yes? Because Fist played more years in the White with
the White Sox. Okay, And you know about the controversy
of why he went to the White Sox right now?

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Tell me.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Apparently his agent it was a snowstorm and he didn't
get the proper paperwork in time, which made him a
free agent. Really yeah, so he only base hit for
Yas And what happened was and again he has played
for the Red Sox the sixties, the seventies and the eighties,

(14:04):
whereas Fisk, now he played in the sixties, seventies and eighties,
but he played again primarily for the White Sox. Yeah,
he spent more years with the White Sox and he died.
The Red Sox doesn't take anything away.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Is this Fisk here?

Speaker 1 (14:19):
There is Pudge, the original Pudge. Yeah, two Hall of
Fame catchers. Right now. You got Bench squatting and Fisk
hitting at the plate. This is NBC's coverage of the
nineteen seventy five World Series. And you would never see

(14:39):
that today where you see as you can see right now.
They don't have the field view. Yeah, yeah, you just saw.
You're just seeing Johnny Bench's back, Fisk's back.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
They have this shot. That's a bass hit, and that's
a nice bass hit. Squeezes right in between.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
The Red Sox with what one out, have runners at
first and second, two singles in a row, Yazz and Fisk,
so Yazz goes to second. Sparky Anderson is the manager
for the Cincinnati Reds. Is it's still the first inning,
the bottom of the bottom of the first inning. I

(15:22):
saw Sparky Anderson in this ballpark at Fenway. He was
managing the Detroit Tigers. They're getting ready.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's the first inning. It's the first way I asked,
because I heard them talking about they're getting ready the bullpen.
They're warming up two hands and he's only giving up
two hits. And it's probably two of the best players
on this team. How about we chill Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
No, Nolan's control is not there. And you saw his era.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, was at four point eighty eight year five. Now
it didn't correct me if I'm wrong. This is again
before my time. Yeah, Jim right on this team. He
was injured, was he?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Going back, Griffy, forget it, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
It's a great call. There three nothing in the first inning.
The first inning.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
What's that? Four batters?

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:20):
I think is they only have what one or two outs? Out?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
One out? That was a bomb too. It wasn't even
there's no doubt. I guess the Reds know what they're doing.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Is that Freddy Lynn?

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wow, what a what a hit that was mashed? That
one could have came with the side of gravy.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Some guy downtown is going to catch that ball in
his bowl of soup. Ricolled Petrocelli who lives in Nashville.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
By the way, I was about to say, uh, I
was talking to one of our coworkers, talk to Rico
many times before we hopped on here. Uh. And I'm
pretty sure Doc, one of our co workers said that
this was his favorite Red Sox player, Rico.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, Doc was the announcer. But by the way,
and I want to be transparent here, Doc was the
announcer leading into this. Yes, that's what I thought the playback.
His teacher called him after this game. That doesn't happen
in this day and age. Teachers can't be called students.
They could in nineteen seventy five, though, three eight and nothing.

(17:37):
It was Fredline, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, number nineteen, I thinks Freddy Lin. Yeah, yes, him
and Jim Rice the gold Dust Twins.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
So Rice was hurt.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yes, do you know what his injury was?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
That's unfortunate. Jim Rice was a solid bat for the
most feared sluggers.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
In theme so I earlier I alluded to the differences
in the stadium here at Fenway, just the way it looks,
the scoreboard and like the monster looks.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Well, a lot has changed, a lot different. Tony Perez
at the Dish, who played for the Montreal Expos towards
the end of his career. By the way, also played
for the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
What Tiante with what is that pitch? Is that like
a screwball?

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Like it's a screwball.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Like that floating pitch and then he just winds back
up with the fastball.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, you don't see that anymore.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, Tiante with an absolute cannon of an arm.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Whoever's paying that person, it's not enough.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, looks very very nerve wracking there.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
That's a view to a kill right there. Yeah. I
wouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
No, I wouldn't be able to stand up there and
look look out over that. Like it's not like they
had the same safety procedures that they do today. No,
that's like the nerve wracking there.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Keep that camera.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Oh show wasn't oh show wasn't up there mandating as
strictly as they are today, right swinging a mesh. I
can hear it now, though.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Please don't do that again. That's so obnoxious.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
It's better than the The Yankees one. The Yankees one
annoys me, and the announcer annoys me when he does
the yeah, oh, my.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Michael, there's George Foster. I had a friend that had
a little league George Foster. Bat that's cool. Yeah. We
used to call it the false stays. Yeah, yeah, the
false stays.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Let's go. I want to see him strike another one out.
I don't think they're hanging the cas though. Is that
not a thing back?

Speaker 1 (20:08):
Not a thing back then. I think they started doing
that when radio stations started to promote the games, so
you could like have your own Yeah, can I get
a whole bunch of it? It was great promotion. Yeah, that's cool,
and then people just made them on their own if
the radio stations were going to provide it, right, George Foster,

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There isn't an easy out in this lineup.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
No, well, that's what I'm saying. The Reds, this Red's
lineup is crazy, like crazy stacked.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
They lost the World Series in nineteen seventy to the
Baltimore Orioles.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
By the way, it's twenty twenty five. Yeah, just to
put it in perspective, this was seventy five, so it's
been what fifty years, it's fifty years. Yeah, and some
of these names, like again, I'm thirty one at current
press time, So this is twenty years older than me, essentially,

(21:15):
and I seem and I still know a majority of
folklore of this team because that's how this is like
the eighty five Bears, you know, the seven Patriots. It's
the It's the same thing as those early two thousands
Devils in Red Wings in hockey, or the ninety six Bowls,

(21:37):
like some of the greatest teams that were ever assembled.
That the roster lives on in infamy forever. And it's
like this Reds team seventy five, fifty years old, and
Johnny Bench is still considered one of the greatest catchers
Johnny Bench has been on the ke Rose is still
the all time hit.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Camp Yes at press time, Well, I don't think that's
going to change for a while, he thought it would
be Mike Trout. That's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, it's like that, this talent on this team is crazy.
The Red Sox or no slaug either, like yeah, Fisk
Rice Lynn with Rice, Yeah, I mean he's not playing now,
but just on the team. Like yeah, the Red Sox
team isn't isn't you know? You can't just bat an

(22:24):
eye at them. Deanta's out here looking.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Don Zimmer was the manager, by the way, remember Don Zimmer,
Yeah yeah, he was the manager of the Red Sox
in nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
That's wild.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah, little did he know he'd be thrown to the
ground years later. Dave Conception was actually a pretty good
short Let's see he was I think he was all field,
no hit.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Well, yeah, but I feel like you kind of need
one of those on your team.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah. Yeah. The nineteen seventy World Series pretty much had
this big Red machine, but they lost to the Baltimore
Orioles in the World Series. Brooks Robinson was the man
in that series.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
So I was gonna say, you were talking about fielding
yell field, no hit, all hit, yeah. One of my
favorite players of all time.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It was all field, no hit.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yeah. I was a big Jackie Bradley junior guy. One
of the first games I went to. Actually I was
still in the Navy, my mom. I actually it was
either the year I got out or the last year.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
That does it for the reds.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
It was the year I got out or the last
year I was in the Navy. By the way, going
into the bottom of the second still three nothing, Yeah,
last year I was in the Navy, or right, after
I got out, my mom got me tickets Red Sox
Yankees for my birthday. And Dewey Damn Dwight Evans. I
forgot that he was on this team too. We get

(23:59):
tickets tickets Red Sox Yankees. One of my favorite games
I've ever been to. It was in the standing room
only at the Sam Adams Deck. It's not the Sam
Adams Deck anymore, but yeah, yeah, standing room only. It's
a one nothing game. The whole game really low scoring pitching,
you know, pitching duel. Aaron Judge in the eighth inning,

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top of the eighth crushes a ball and you hear
the wind just get evaporated from the sales inside of Fenway.
You hear everyone just go oh. And next thing you know,
Jackie Bradley Junior runs to the wall, jumps up, reaches up,
and robs the home run and the Red Sox win

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won nothing in the next inning in the ninth And
that was like one of my favorite plays. And and
that was just one microcosm of how good of Jackie
Bradley Junior was. When you're talking outfield, when I when
you were talking infield yet, sorry for like a short stop. Yeah,
but I also love. I'm a big I'm a big
Smith fan. Yeah, Like watching highlights of Ozzy is some

(25:02):
of my favorite things. The Wizard, he was so good.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
He was the Wizard of Oz.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
That's why damn Dwight Evans goes down looks looking. I believe.
I don't think they're gonna guys. I don't think they're
gonna call that a swing.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
But they should have retired number twenty four for Evans
and not given it to Manny Ramirez. I know several
other players had worn twenty four before many Ramirez.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Yeah, but now that Manny Ward, it's like you, I
guess you could retire it for both of them.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Also, I don't know how do you let me ask
you this? How do you feel about people like numbers
getting retired. I've had like a weird.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Rick Burlson keep that name in mind too.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
I've had a weird like take on Jersey numbers getting
retired earlier in this year. I think in like the
summer of twenty five. Yeah, the New England or the
New England New York Giants excuse me, drafted Abdul Carter
in the NFL draft in April. Actually, leading up to

(26:07):
the summer during the tail Yes. He asked leading up
if he could wear I think it was number fifty six.
He wanted to wear Lawrence Taylor's number, correct, and Lawrence
Taylor said no, yes. And then he wanted to wear
number eleven, yes, and Phil Simms said no, yes, And
I'm saying yes.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
They're confirming, they said, because.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
The numbers are retired.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Now, my question to you, that's an out burrels and
grounds out to first. I get why they said no,
that's their number. Make your own legacy kind of thing.
I get that. But do you think franchises, instead of
retiring numbers, should they just do like this guy in
the Ring of Honor.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
They've do that for some teams.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Yeah, I know, instead of because some organizations like we'll
just use some bigger ones like the Yankees or the
Lakers in basketball, like some some of these organizations that
like players specifically target because of where they're at the market.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Loo, who's coming up to bat in an American League
park as a pitcher? There's no DH.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Oh okay, he's two. He's two for six.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
By the way, well, the DH came out in seventy three.
This is seventy five.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
So but they're still just like Matt he's got he's
got a good bat. Screw it. But so yeah, do
you think because like think of like the Niners or
the Raiders, like how many great players have played for them? Like, yes,
you know, Randy Moss played for both of those teams.

(27:39):
Jerry Rice played for both of those teams. Obviously, Jerry Rice,
you know, might not get put in their their Ring
of honor whatever, you know what I'm saying. But I'm
just saying, like certain places because of the destination, like
like a Los Angeles or like a New York.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Wait a minute, does NBC know something we don't, like
a like a.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Los Angeles or New York. Yeah, there's more players that
go to those teams because of their destination. And you could,
you know, like Aaron Judge, they could retire ninety nine
right in New York.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yes, they should retire the number ninety nine for Wayne
Gretzky for every sport. But that's just me. But so
like for the Reds.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Instead of retiring ninety nine, do you think they should
just put Aaron Judge in like a ring of honor?

Speaker 1 (28:27):
See, this is the controversy here what they didn't realize
that when owners decided to retire numbers, that the floodgates
were going to open, because you only get zero through
ninety nine, right, you don't get you know, thirty.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Six, right unless they start going to they could triple digits,
which yeah, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if sports.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well, since robots are going to replace us, you might
as well start the triple digit era. Like I've opened
up a candle.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
I feel like triple digits on Jersey happened. Yeah, they
you see it in things like motocross and things like that,
where it's like a triple digit number or like a
rally sport, and it's like.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You see that in track, and I mean you see
that during running exactly. So I mean they have yeah,
I could.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
I could see that happening in baseball, and especially because
they've had this thing where they've retired so many numbers
that eventually, in theory, you're gonna run out of numbers
to retire or or to wear.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Meroschlav Satan's Son's going to wear six six six, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
It's just like, I don't know, I think they should
just do the ring of Honor, don't retire numbers, and
then like if you have a legendary player, you still
get to honor them, Like Lawrence Taylor could be honored
in the Giant's Ring of Honor and it would say
number fifty six Lawrence Taylor or Phil Simms, number eleven.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's the rules they made.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I know, I just wanted to know your take. What
do you think, Like do you think it should be
Ring of Honor or do you think it should be
retire the number and just go to three.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Digits, retire the number, and then when they're dead, they
don't really have the opportunity to say you can't take
my number, because the Merra family are going to run
out of number, run out of no, the Merra family
are just gonna they're gonna win a lot of the
because the Marafa.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Oh yeah, like when Sims and like when Taylor are gone.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yes, the Error family is still going to be there
unless they sell to someone else.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
And they're not going to deny a player to play
or to wear a new generation, you know what I mean.
And at the same time, like I I didn't watch
Lawrence Taylor play, you know, like yeah, like and I
know who he is because my dad loves Lawrence Taylor.
My my dad's a Giants fan. But like I didn't

(30:40):
watch him play. I didn't watch Carlton Fiske play or
yeaz or whatever.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Don't get me wrong. They're legendary Red Sox player. Carlton
Fisks retired the year before you were born.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
Like, they're both legendary players.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
He didn't even get on the first ballot in the
Baseball Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
But my point, my point is yeazz in them. They
have their numbers retired. But it's like until right now,
I never got to see them play at all, like
maybe highlights and stuff like that, but it's like kids
younger than me are gonna have almost like no clue
unless they hear through lore and stories or watch pictures
right right right like you can, and the internet helps

(31:14):
with all that. But it's just read a book, you
know what I mean, Like you could that's a good
way to take it, as like posthumous, what is the
word post human? Posthumously? Thank you posthumously, Like you could
give out these numbers again because then you avoid running

(31:36):
into the problem and instead of retiring a number, I
think like you can retire the number with that person.
But like you said, once they're gone, like you give
them another chance. Look at this? What is this editing here?
What is this production?

Speaker 1 (31:47):
So it's like a silhouette like a ghost shot of
of LT base it.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Yeah, first hit for the Reds in the third inning.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah, who else but Pete Rose?

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Right, Yeah, surprise Pete was See that's the one player
I was honestly really excited to watch in this that
wasn't a Red Sox player. You know, I'm excited to
see Ken Griffy, I'm excited to see Yeahz and Fisk play,

(32:25):
but I'm excited. Well, I was excited to see Pete
Rose because I think he's the hit king and is
the hit king saying that he's not, you're right, Well,
it's just annoying that they don't that he doesn't get
the recognition for his talent, like the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Well, he shouldn't have gambled on baseball. Yeah, I know,
but it's the cardinal sin, not steroids, not sexual assault,
not betting on baseball. Well, if you're gonna bet bet this, yeah,
we're not in baseball though. No, no, well, neither's Emmanuel
Class right now? Yeah, or Orlois Ortiz.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
They must be fans of the show.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
I know. There you go. So you know why Fisk
didn't get in on the first ballot in nineteen ninety nine.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Right, No, why I share the story.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
There was a log jam of Hall of famers Robinie Out,
the greatest Milwaukee brewer of all time, George Brett, the
greatest Kansas City royal of all time, Nolan Ryan because
they all retired after the ninety three season. Right, there's
Fred Norman, which sounds like a golf name, Fred Noelman.

(33:36):
And for the Veterans Committee, it was Orlendo Sepatea, the
baby Bull. So Fisk did not get on the first ballot.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Is there a limit to how many players they can
let it in?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So? No, it's the percent, it's the amount of See.
The thing is when you're a first ballot, right, if
your first remember it's for how many votes you receive.
You have to have seventy five percent to get in.
That's why I only like two or three can because
again it's first place vot votes. Those first place votes
take up and you can only do it for so
many before it comes in. And so so Fisk, there's

(34:09):
Cecil Cooper. By the way, Fisk got on this with
Tony Perez. Tony Perez did not get on the first
ballot either, and we just saw Tony Paris playing first base.
So you had those two get inducted in two thousand.
In the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooper's town, I
saw Carlton Fisk as well as Johnny Bench. Johnny Bench

(34:30):
has been on the pulsive New Hampshire airwaves by the way,
really yes, well, when he was back in the late
twenty tens, he was hawking tops trading cards through Blue
Emu because Blue Emu is he's one, has a partner
or he's one. If you've seen Blue Emu commercials, Johnny
Bench is in some of them for baseball. He'll rub

(34:52):
my hands on and no hurt stuff like I thought. Yeah,
So he called in to one of the radio shows
on the Pulse of New Hampshire and talked about tops
trading cards and the baseball and the game today, you know,
or what whose favorite players were.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
So that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I got to talk to a legend. I have two,
by the way, in storage, I have two Johnny Bench rawlings, mits,
catchers mits.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
In the seventies. I'm trying to fix one of them up,
so I can you know.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
I was gonna say you you you ever have like
you ever played catcher? You ever catch with the catcher's mitt.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
During practice pitches? I have, but not during an actual game,
which I've wanted to do and I never will. I
retired from baseball in twenty eighteen, and I put I
put my cleats on the pitcher's mound like wrestlers do.
They put their wrestling boots in the middle of the ring.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Walked off the walked off the field and left his
left his cleats on the mount.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
My great Mike Trout nikes were in the middle of
the uh the pitchers mound. I Denny Doyle again.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I got a concussion in baseball one time, brutal I
for a collision. No, I was playing catcher. It was
little league. Ooh, this kid bunted and there was a
guy on third and so I ripped my mask off.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Right.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
We had we had a kid who was like at
the age limit of Little League, Like he couldn't be
any older. It was like his last year he could
play Little League. So he was older than Iowa's He
was like four years old his eligibility, right, and so
I nice snag. He almost got that off the hop bench.
This ya, that's a nice snag. Yeah, So I ripped

(36:36):
my mask off the kid bunts. I throw it to
first base. First basement snags it right steps into foul territory,
like he side steps around the runner and throws it
back to me at the catcher at home plate because
the the guy on third started to come home. And
that's a hit. That's a base hit. Denny Doyle's hot
right now, that might be two. Yeah, that's two.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
That's two. It's a two bagger for Denny Doyle.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
So I the first basement gets the ball, throws it
back to me at home plate, right and I've got
my catcher's mitt right in like right here on my
cheek almost like trying to catch it. I just have
it close to my face, yep. And catchers have that

(37:23):
big lip on their glove that like the yeah, they
have like a ring around the glove that it's like
a big lip and that goes over it. And uh,
the ball hit that lip and bounced up and hit
me in the eye like it missed. And this kid
had thrown like a fastball essentially at me to get
it home as fast as possible, and it bounced up

(37:44):
and it hit me in the eye right here. And
I played the rest of the game. There's like one
or two more innings, and then as we were walking
out to the parking lot, I like got dizzy and
threw up, and my parents took me the hospital. I
had a concussion. It's like I played like two more
innings with a concussion, just sitting there like just like
thousand yards stare, just waiting to catch the ball and

(38:04):
throwing it back to the pictures that as a.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Kid, by the way, yeah, not a twenty year old,
you know, not a college cannot you know any of that?
I was like a little kid.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I was like eleven maybe yeah, yeah. President gerald Ford's
son Michael Ford with the most seventies haircut?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah? Could you can I see your ears? Please? Could you?

Speaker 3 (38:28):
You know? Is that George Harrison's lookalike?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
How can you hear? Maybe that's the idea you don't
want to hear. Well. Gerald Ford's approval writing at the
time wasn't all that good, so maybe you know he
didn't want to hear it from the crowd.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
He's got earplugs under his hair.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
You don't see yeah, I can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
He's just hitting that nod and smile.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Gerald Ford. You know what his birthname was? What? Leslie King?
So that means we could have had a president president King,
President King. How about that? Huh?

Speaker 3 (38:58):
That would have been funny. The monarchy would have loved that.
They've got a king over in America. They left us
and and they just went right back to their old ways.
A mile high in the air, Joe Morgan waiting for
an hour.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
With the greatest of ease, no trouble under it. Jack
billingam fits the billingham? There he is.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
It's the billing and.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I came up with that one.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I'll pick up the billing, am h I paid last time.
You pick up the billing.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Him fits the billing him.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's funny.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Carlton Fisk, What a great name. What Carlton Carlton Fisk fist.
They're gonna they're gonna walk him intentionally.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Something I forget that they had to do the intentional
like they had to like, no, you couldn't put four
fingers right, you actually had to throw four if you put.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Four fingers up. Now it means you intentionally walk them.
You can still put four fingers up. I mean, back
in those days when managers put four fingers up, that
was the signals for the pitcher walk him. You need
to throw four see.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
But it's funny because I've seen pitchers like mess up,
yes and get.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
That's why the catcher and him have to get on
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
And get crushed. I kind of missed that part of
the game, but I get that they're trying to speed
it up, and it's just a delay. If this guy's
just gonna throw Doyle's over, he's getting ready to pick
off Doyle at second on the on the intentional walk,
Doyle's messing with him.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
That's funny mind games, even in nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 3 (40:32):
That's base Baseball is a lot of mind games. People
don't understandrec It's a lot inside. Like that's why managers
are so vital to good teams, because they know how
to manage the game. Like, no, oh, Freddy LINN If
I pull Freddy Lynn, who's batt and left handed right now,
and I pinch hit a righty, you know, I gotta
I gotta remember that I still got six seven innings

(40:55):
potentially to go. Yeah, so man, it's like there's no sponsors.
I know, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
It looks it's naked.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
It looks amazing. I love it, honestly. It looks like
just pure baseball. Also, is it just me or I
feel like the angle out in center field is different,
Like I feel like it's more flat in the back
like a diamond, Like you know how a diamond would
be like uh, like a V and then you know

(41:27):
like that that and that. It looks like it's more
flat as opposed to like nowadays, it looks like it's
more like angled towards the bullpen. That could be wrong,
thoughts triangle out.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Let's let's see it. We're gonna see it. Yeah, let's
see it.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Yeah did uh? Was Rob Dibble on this Reds team?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
He's like, later you're talking about the nasty voice of
the nineties with Norm Charlton.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah, I'm trying to think. I'm trying to just think
of Red's players. I know that were like pre my time,
Rob double Dibble, Rob Ibble, Dibble.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Strike yeap.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Who's on the mound right now? Norman? Yes, is still Norman.
They got billing him warmon up.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Because Nolan is out, Yeah, because yeah, that's.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
They pulled him like instantly. Yeah, it was first inning there, Like.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
It's like we got it. Well again you saw when
you saw that list of available pitchers that were available
for Sparky Anderson, he has again different game, Yeah, an
embarrassment of riches. Essentially good mix and match of who
could pitch and who can And also it's like Nolan
was on a short leash to begin with. I was
gonna say, it's the World Series. It's not like they're
gonna wait around to lose the game. You know, they

(42:46):
lead three games to two, so they want to end it.
They want to end it.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, Doyle still on second, Norman got Doyle's going matter.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
It's of before you're any steals bases loaded anyway, because
Fisk got intentionally walked, and then the unintentional walk to
Freddie Lynn, who's Denny Doyle was already a third second.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
So who's up to bat? Do we know? I don't
remember it's not yeahs because I think he's before Fisk.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And look at this, get at him. Sparky Anderson is
wasting no time?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Are they leaving him in?

Speaker 1 (43:37):
The Rico's coming in?

Speaker 3 (43:41):
What are we doing bringing the jacket out, Bud. We
pitched him with the and the cart. Yeah, the ball.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
Cart, ball cart with a big red sox hat.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I'm pretty sure I could be wrong and correct me
if you know. I think like Jerry Remy one of
his last like moments at Fenway before he passed, he
like rode around, not in the ball car, but it
was like a cart like.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
That building areas.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Look at fifteen and ten as a reliever. Yeah, he's
coming out of the bullpen. It's crazy. See, how do
you get fifteen wins as a reliever, like you're you're
starting rotation.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Must have no wins. No, again, what was credited for
wins is different? I mean yeah, because you could pitch,
you know, you could pick Rico Petrocelli right.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
There getting hit with the Rico.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Yep, who's been on these the pulsive of New Hampshire
airwaves many times as well. My dad, My dad like
Rico Petrocelli.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
The broadcast coming in a little staticky, but the picture's
still looking good. The the quality, honestly, for a nineteen
seventy game, I'm impressed.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Dennis Larry's dorm room buddy at Emerson College in Boston,
was a Cincinnati Reds fan at this time. Really Yeah, well,
as you know, Dennis Larry's very irish. Yeah, so you'd
have to think it.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Probably wasn't pretty in that dorm room.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
It was probably not gonna not be the greatest of
times in that dorm room during the fall of nineteen
seventy five.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
I bet at the end of this game he hit
him with a how do you like them apples? It
was short lived, but how do you like them apples?
Probably came out after this game.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I think he poured a beer on him. That's funny
and called him the A word. Yeah, well it's a
song he has, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Patricelly goes down swing and leaves the bases loaded.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
That's awful. Tis still out there for Boston.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Would be he'd throw one hundred and like two hundred
pitches and he'd still be in the game. You don't
see that today, No, never, Look Joe. Look at Joe Morgan.
He's ready because he always had the back his back
arm cocked ready to go. So fall.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
In the fourth inning, I know we're kind of cruising.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, strike.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
It's an interesting camera angle by the production team.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
There NBC's taking some chances here.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
I mean, well, we're still early in the TV days,
Like you know, TV has been around for a little
bit at this point, but it's it's still innovative. Like
everyone's trying to be the next, like all the all
these production companies want to be the next, like big
innovative style. I don't think they were going for that.
I think they were just seeing what would make Yeah,

(46:55):
what would work and what wouldn't. Yeah, they're just trying.
They're testing things out. Especially I've noticed in recent years
sports or sports coverage has had a lot of new
innovative things or companies or production companies are trying new
innovative things, Like in the Super Bowl last year with

(47:16):
the Eagles and the Chiefs, they brought in a new
score bug and they were like, we'll try to we'll
try it out in the super Bowl because everyone's going
to be watching, so we can get a good like
the world will be watching. They can get like a
good test essentially, like the World Series is a good
like a large audience, so it's a good place to
try things.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
So the last two teams, it's the best of seven.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
No one, no one can watch anything else you know
what I mean, Like, if they want to watch sports
or they want to watch baseball, they have to watch
the World's here.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
That's it. Yeah, there's no Yeah, I want to do
in Korean Baseball League. Yeah, that league's not playing right now.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
I think I'm gonna flip over the NPB channel lot

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Yeah, on my dish. Yeah, the only dish they had,
your castle old dish. When you're eat lasagna.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Your TV dinner, your TV dinner, you're didn't did yeah,
l there is.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
No one pitches like that either that they go back
to the you.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Know yeah that that like the twist, Yeah, struck him
out the bench, looked on the swing and know you
make me want to shout like kind of twists, yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Twist and shout.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I need Jaye Dog to do the twisted shout on
camera in the aftermath. That was great.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
That's how you get the ladies, folks. Tony Perez there
he is.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Eighteen game batting streak for the Reds. That was what
it's like to strike out against.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
And you know his son, right, that's so good? Who
Eduardo Perez? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's his son.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Really Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yep, Eduardo Perez was a can't miss prospect during his time,
I think with the Marlins.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
So they've had a lot of Perezes down in Miami.
They got who do they got right now?

Speaker 1 (49:13):
To Amelia Perez?

Speaker 3 (49:14):
They have they have like Yuri Perez or something, don't they?
Or is it? Does he play for I.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Know he plays for Miami.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Does he play for the A's? I almost called them Oakland.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
There's Hondo, that's John Halichick. Halichick stole the ball. Hali
Check stole the ball. He stole that woman's heart.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
Actually Celtics legend there, Yeah, I better Havilcheck would like
to have that Melton fake that the ouce cat.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
That was Joe Garrett Giola. I know somebody who met
Joe Garrett Jola and had actually Joe Garrett Giola presented
an award to this individual, really Mike Murphy. Yes, you
know we've talked about Mike Murphys a he's a playbacker
and he's also a bet heead and he got an
award from he got an award from Joe Garrett Giola

(50:07):
back in the two thousands. Hell yeah, yeah, I'll show
you the picture. I'm pretty sure he still is a picture.
I'm gonna show that and when I get if he
shows me, I'll send it to you. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, yeah, I want to. I want to. I'd love
to hear the success of the playbackers and to hear
their involvement. Yeah, like you know, some stories and stuff
like that from the times, folks, especially if it's before
my time like this, folks.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Mike Murphy is the play by play voice of U
and H men's hockey and also, of course, he was
one of the first voices of the New Hampshire fisher Cats.
I've known Murph for twenty four years now and.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
U uh, hockey's a big deal too. Yes, it's the
biggest sport at the school. It is the hockey school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And that's no offense to football.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
No, I mean they're D one and football, but their
their football team is their football team is successful, but
their their hockey team is produced some of the best
hockey players in America.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
I wish they would just get that that that trophy
and just you know, it's been a while since they've
you know, I mean it's tough. Hockey East is tough.
They're in a Hockey East is if you watch college hockey.
I haven't. I haven't followed in a long time, but
I was a big b U fan back in the day.
I grew up watching the Terriers.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Probably the bean Pot, right, yeah, big.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Bean Pope, there you go. But the so I was
a big b U fan growing up. But Hockey East,
it's like you got Harvard, you got b U b C.
And like all those bean Pot schools are all great
Hockey East schools. And then you also got you n
h You Maine, you Mass what is it U Mass
Lowell RIVERWKS. Yeah, they've got their own team.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
And Lay is the also of a playbacker and bat head.
He is the voice. He's the play by play voice
of you Mass Lowell men's hockey. Really he used to
be the voice of the Merrimack College hockey team as well.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
You talk the UMass little They're another one that almost
slept on. I feel like when I was growing up,
they would dominate, uh, you know all the time in
Hockey East. Yeah, check swing, hit.

Speaker 1 (52:13):
And the ball gets tossed away.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
That was Rico, right, No, yeah, I think Rico to Doyle.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yes, so now you've got runners at first and third.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Perez On third, so Rico whipped it not even close. Also,
I will say Doyle's got a weird position on the bag.
He had his he had his right foot on the bag,
but the ball was going to his right or know
he has his left foot. Yeah, and he slipped.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Yeah, because it rained earlier in Boston. That tell Yeah,
so a wet spot essentially yep.

Speaker 3 (52:57):
Red still down three to nothing, fourth inning, Still.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Fourth inning, top of the fourth inning in Boston. There's
Dave conception.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Owne trying to create a opportunity here.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Rather the Reds lost the seventy two World Series as
well to the Oakland A's who three peted?

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Really? Yeah, sounds like the Big Red Machine is more
like the nineteen ninety Bills.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
They or Cleveland in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
It's like, how many not go there? How many teams did?
How many times did they make it to the World Series?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
And four times? Well two times.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
They won two World Series as the Big Red Machine?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, two and two see you in two and two.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Rough still making it twice and losing his rough But
I guess it's again it's always the age old story or.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
They could have given up.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yeah, it's like at least you made it.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
They could have given up in seventy three with the
or seventy four right with the with the window, you
lost to a World series. What do you do here? Well,
if you got Pete Rose, if you got Joe Morgan,
if you got Johnny Bench, you got a window. You
got a big window. Okay, not a two or three
or what? You got a big window. Conception own, Tony Perez.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
You got to take advantage of it while you can. Right,
what is that saying, jump while the iron's hot or something?
Or yeah, you gotta strike while the iron, strike with
the while the iron's hot.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I don't know if you want to jump while the iron,
So that's a good idea. Freddie Lynn I think, was
the nineteen seventy five Rookie of the Year and al
MVP by the way, Wow, yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Red Sox had some talent. See, And this is what
the problem was with Red Sox fans is they had
good teams and just could never get it done. I
mean there was a big gap I guess from when
was the last time they made it before the seventies?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Nineteen sixty seven lost in seven games to the Saint
Louis Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
What about before that?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
Nineteen forty six World Series. So they lost to the
Saint Louis Cardinals in seven. Oh my god, that's rugged.
So they went like twenty years without making it. They
didn't make it in the well, they didn't make it
in the twenties or the thirties. They made it in
the forties, didn't make it in the fifties, made in
the sixties, made in the seventies, made it in the eighties,

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didn't make it in the nineties.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The nineties were rough.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
It was their first decade. They hadn't made it since
the nineteen fifties.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
See, but then once that four team rolls around.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
The two thousands, they get into you know, they dominate.
They have not lost a World Series again, They've not
lost a World Series since two thousand and four. No,
no lost. They've not lot in terms of lost the
World Series. They have not a game. But because they
well they swept the Cardinals. Yeah they have. The last
time the Red Sox lost a World Series as Dwight

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Evans leads off in the bottom of the.

Speaker 3 (56:12):
Fourth r right, that's what I'm saying since two thousand
and four, they haven't they like since they won.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
The last time they lost the World Series was nineteen
eighty six, right, it's been so think about that. So
it's been we're going up. We're going up on near
forty years the last time the Boston Red Sox participated
in the World Series and lost. Now they don't go
every year, but again, well, two thousand and four, two
thousand and seven, twenty thirteen, twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
They got the four in you know, almost in.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
The twenty first years. Four in the twenty first century. Yeah,
it was no team has more World Series championships in
this century than the Boston Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
It was like they were going every four years. It
felt like they would make a run. They won an
oh four and then you know, less than four years
they made it back in O seven and thirteen was
a little bit of a or their gap, but six years,
you know, the average was about four years they would
make it to the World Series and win. Yeah, so
they went on a obviously h slide for a couple

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of years, but they had a good run in those
early two thousands, and it's just crazy to me the
amount of talent that they had, Like they had good
teams and that was the problem is these fans kept
hope and Hope and Hope and they're like, oh, it's
just when eighty six rolled around, it was like, this
is awful. This is that must have been must have

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been brutal. Evans Griffy's on his horse and I was
about to say, hit that out.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
It bounced that damn pole, that damn pesky pole. I've
told you about that. What happened earlier this year, right
what John Kenzie Noel of the Cleveland Guardians caught the
ball in that corner but dropped it into the pole
and it became a home run. Wow?

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Really, how did I miss that?

Speaker 1 (58:08):
I hate that so much.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Look he bounce. Rick Burrelson, gonna look at that bat
right there.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
I was gonna mention the bats earlier they look like larger.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
Keep that bat in mind. I'll leave it at that.
Rick Burrelson. You know you don't hear that name a lot,
do you? No?

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Almost like a uh deep cut, a bygone era. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
It's funny because my parents didn't meet each other until
the eighties, right. My father at the time during the
seventies was a Boston Red Sox guy. Mama Joe Cincinnati
Reds so that would have been fun that was that
would have been fun at the dinner table in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (59:02):
Yeah, it was socks in my house. Socks are nothing,
even though we like different football teams, but it's Red
Sox Nation here. My mom, not even a sports fan,

(59:23):
Red Sox nation. There's always Red Sox Nation in the house.
It is true too. It's something that's locked them. Something
that isn't discussed enough is like, that's one thing that
Boston has over a lot of these other major sports
teams in cities is it's not just Boston, it's New England,

(59:50):
you know what I mean. Like the football team is
called the New England Patriots. They're they're called the Boston
Red Sox, but they're you know, they're.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Backed by all of their New England's team. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
The fan base is enormous because it's got you know,
multiple states driving in fans, as opposed to like in Ohio,
you've got multiple teams for people to choose from. It's
harder to get a specific fan base in Ohio is
one part of the region, whereas New England is six states. Right, Yeah,

(01:00:24):
some consider it five states because you know what state
they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
A lot of people do not consider what.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Do you can what are you say in Connecticut?

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Yeah, which I'm like, no, it is New England's New England.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Oh my gosh, that could have been a disaster. That
could have been a disaster. Imagine if he was safe. Yeah,
what a bunt? The second basement overran it? Or is
that the Yeah, that's the second basement.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Right, Joe Morgan.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Wow, he advanced both runners. Man on second and third.
I think two down, two.

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
Down now yeah, yea one out, you're right, second and third, though,
Cecil Cooper at the plate. Cecil Cooper was an underrated
player in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
That's such a seventies name, Cecil Cooper. Whose name in
their their child cecil nowadays?

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Well, I think it was born in the forties, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
That's a that's a name for an adult in the seventies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Is cecil or cecil because like cecil fielder cecil, this
is Cecil Cooper, cecil fielder.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
You know, probably spelt the same way.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Well, I met at this ballpark thirty years ago in
nineteen ninety five, and I lost his ticket on the
bus on the way home. Whoops, Yeah, got it back though, No,
how went to the baseball dinner and a few years
ago in twenty twelve, and got it got got got
into autographies that don't lose at this time.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
That's nice, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Ye autographed the ticket. The fisher Cats had a the
baseball Dinner ticket. Yeah, so I have that. I have
that in my folks. For those of you that don't
know or do know, I'm going to tell you now
I have a Okay, so two out para is probably

(01:02:27):
would have just throw a rocket to bench probably and
it would have prevented from having I have a box
that's called my Good Memories or a memento's box where
it's pictures autographs of you know, as I said, Cecil
Fielder ticket. Danny Doyle. Denny Doyle sounds like a seventies

(01:02:49):
name too, a detective Detective Doyle.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Detective Denny Doyle sounds like a New England detective Danny Doyle.
But like it's almost like one of those private I
like noir films.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Yeah, Smacker Street on Donald.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
It was a late September evening, maybe October. Chill in
the air.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
It was October. Baseball is being played in.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
A ballpark, Detective Doyle. The chill in the air was mystifying.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
There was a guy named Pete.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
I had a date with Destiny. They always say something
like that. It's always although girls named Destiny was probably
like in the nineties of the two thousands. Yeah, some
clubs that you went to of a certain kind probably
had their name be Destiny. Joe Morgan, that's it. Yeah,

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socks do not score again leaving people on base.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Well, they do lead three to nothing after four.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
It's funny the Perez as he was walking off the
field dropped the ball on the pitcher's mound. Which I
don't know if they still do that. No, I was
gonna say they definitely, they definitely don't, right, Yeah, it's funny.
That's like very like playground esk, you know what I mean,
Like when you switch side, you like leave the ball
for the next pitcher or whatever. Yeah, that's cool. I

(01:04:08):
kind of like that. It makes it feel more authentic.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
People now want baseballs all the time, so you know
you gotta just satiates.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Well, yeah, you got the Zach Hampells of the world
that are over here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Zach Campbell is getting in the way.

Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
I know. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
The difference.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, he's not going to say Tony give me a ball.
It was just like had to take two steps and
barely move. He was actually a really good fielder and
he had a hell of an arm. Hit a cannon
for an arm. Where did it was? He always right
field for Boston for the most part. What was Jim left?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Yes, yeah, they got or Yas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
I was gonna say they got Jazz that they right? Now,
where would Jim play?

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Because well, if if if Yaz wasn't playing first or
d hing, I believe Yaz probably playing because Freddy Lynn
would be center field.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yeah, yeah, are they pinch it?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Who's coming in? Arm Brister? Is that what his name is?
You know who this guy is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
You're going to see it at Armbrister.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Armbrister one eight five with two RBIs must be in
the postseason. Hopefully, hopefully those aren't his season stats.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
You under the Kenny Maine Barry Bonds seventy third home
run of the season, not the game, that'd be some
sort of record. He used to do that with Griffy,
Griffy's fifty third of the season. Not the game that'd
be some sort of record.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
It is Kenny Maine, the guy who used to do
like Jazi, like specials before like the NFL games on Sundays,
like on NFL thinks, So he would do like a
weekly comedy special. Yeah, yeah, yea.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
Yeah, Kenny Portland, Maine. He was good at it was
the main event. Yes, yes, yes, m a y any
he was in all.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
He was in that, uh the big Sports Center commercial
era when they did a lot of those like in
house commercials. It's with the athletes and stuff like that.
Is that the one? Was he part of the one
too that it's not iffy if it's griffy? Is that
the one with the thesaurus? Have you seen that one?

(01:06:20):
When they like there's like an old ESPN commercial where
they like it was about it was about performance enhancing drugs,
but they they were saying that the broadcasters were using thesauruses.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
For like writing scripts and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Yeah, for like he for like as a performance enhancing drug.
And it was like Dan Patrick was in the commercial,
I'm pretty sure, and he's like, I didn't use any thesaurus,
Like that's not me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
Actually now I remember, yeah, I actually do remember.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
I can't remember if Kenny Maine was in that one,
but that's one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Dan Patrick's favorite baseball team, the Reds. Yeahcinnati you know that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
Peter Edward Rose, he had Pete on his show a lot, Yes,
he did like a guest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yes he did. Remember Pete Rose's quote. But I'd crawl
through hell with gas cans attached to me to play baseball.
You know that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
I didn't. I'd never heard him say that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
It's something like that. If you want to look at that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
I will have to look it up in just a second.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You do that. You locked it in the bathroom. Didn't
try I think so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
No, I didn't. It's right under my leg. I'm an idiot.
Sit back down, okay. Pete Rose quote, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
The I'd crawl through Yeah, I think it was like
gasoline cans attached.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yes, that's what it was. Yeah, that's I gotta tell
a girl that I'd walk I'd crawl through hell for
you with gasoline cans to be with you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
A gasoline suit, yeah, toxic gas, a nine piece gasoline suit.
I'm dressed to ninety three octane.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
I thought you were addressed to the nines. No, nine
three octane unletted, that's what she said.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Anyway, Tiant still out there, unlike the Reds dominating. The
Reds are on like pitcher three or four.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
Yeah, they're they've got a rolodex, whereas Don Zimmer is like, no,
we're good, we got lte. He's cruising. Now. Why I
say why? I said Mike Trull was going to be
the next Pete Rose. He came into the league very young,
and he wasn't getting hurt and he was piling up hits.

(01:09:07):
But a lah Pete Rose. But he but the injury
bug started to really take its toll in the late
twenty tens, and he's what thirty what thirty four? Now
I can look, but yeah, he's born in ninety one,
so he's thirty four. And at press time, he's not
in the postseason siege. I know he plays for the Angels,
So it's pretty much a guarantee that he's not going

(01:09:28):
to participate in October baseball.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
It's a strike. He's thirty four, right, Yeah, has he
ever made the playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Yeah? Twenty fourteen, three games? That was it was that
against the Royals. Yep, Oh my god, you're not the
only one who asks that people have seen all these
years of Mike Trout, they always wonder did he play
in October Baseball? Yes, one time, and we didn't realize
that at the moment it would be his only time.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
And he's played fifteen seasons already. How many seasons did
Pete Rose play?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Well over twenty Let's see, Pete Rose played in the
sixties all the way to the eighties, so he played
over twenty seasons.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
Yes, Pete Rose played twenty four years. Yeah, had forty
two hundred hits. Yes, Mike Trout has at press time.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Yeah, well he's not in the post seasons. You have
to worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
No, I know, but I'm just saying, yeah, press time
was of twenty twenty five. He has one hundred or
one thousand, seven hundred and fifty four major league hits.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
Nope, not getting it done.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
No, it's like not even close. And he's only got
you know, Rose played what did I say, twenty four
twenty four years? So Mike Trout's got nine years left
to hit pretty much the entire amount of hits he's
had in his career. To hit three thousand, He's he
might not even hit three thousand. He's probably he's not
going to get three thousand hits. He'll be lucky to

(01:10:53):
get five hundred home runs. I was gonna say, he's
probably closer to hitting like six hundred home runs than
he has three thousand hits. And he just hit four hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
He just hit his four hundredth this past season, So
he's got like four h two, four oh three, four
or four. Okay, all right, Still, I can't wait till
I can't wait for him to hit four O four
oh nine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
I can't wait for him to hit five hundred twenty
years from now when he's retired twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yeah, he's not gonna He's not gonna he's gonna be
thirty five next year. Okay. I know we're looking at
maybe two maybe three years. Maybe you're thinking then he's
he's hanging it up. He's got so many injuries, man,
I know that's the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
And I he's got an impressive war, and I know
that that's a huge stat nowadays, but I don't really care.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Stupid stack.

Speaker 3 (01:11:38):
Yeah, to me, it's like, how is his war this good?
When he's like you, it's wins against.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
Replacement, wins wins above replace above his placement. It's that
means he's more valuable than Mickey Mantle.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Right, Like he's valuable on the field, but guess.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
What base hit from Pete Rose?

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
How does how does injuries? How do injuries not into that?
How do they got How do injuries not get accounted
into that? That's the time that you've played, I understand.
But it's just like you value, but your value should
be diminished based on your injuries, you know what I mean?
Like I don't value Mike Trout as high as I
used to because he's been injured so many time, exactly

(01:12:18):
because so wins against the war doesn't mean what it
actually means, Like I guess his war for this year
or like for his recent years are obviously lower because
he's diminished, right, but guess what, it doesn't diminish his
career war. And it's like, is he better than Mickey Mantle? Really?
Because his war is better? Like he didn't. Again, it's similar.

(01:12:41):
I say it all the time people people compare Kawhi
Leonard to being one of the greatest basketball players ever.
It's like, yeah, when he's healthy, exactly, So he's not
one of the best basketball players ever because he's not
playing And Mike Trout can't be one of the greatest
baseball players ever if.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
He's not playing for this century. He is of this century?

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Yeah, But is he a first ballot Hall of Famer? Yes?
What has he done that qualifies him to be a
first ballot?

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
I think he has three MVPs okay, and was the
best player of the twenty tens for how many seasons?
For for he again, for from the time he started
pretty much all the way until like two thousand and eighteen.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Maybe I guess the MVPs will qualify him for the
Hall of Fame because he's on a crappy team. It's
like being on the line.

Speaker 1 (01:13:29):
There's nothing he can do.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
It's like being Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
It's nothing he could do about it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
I know it's the same situation. I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
He doesn't pitch either, There's nothing he can The only
thing he's guilty of is choosing to stay in La
Yes and make that money. Yes, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
It's a that's like a Miles Garrett situation to me,
where it's like you're you're.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
We're not going to get on this again.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
No, I'm not going to scream and shout and let
it all out. But it's just similar. You stay for
the money, but you know you're not going to win.
When show Hay left, Trout was Trout pretty much knew
that was his best chance.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Even then, they.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Yeah, they couldn't get it done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Even then, again, they had they had the two way,
the first two way players since Babe Ruth, and they
couldn't figure it out with Trout.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
But the but the problem is they couldn't have. They
never had both of them on the field at the
same time. Essentially, well they did, they, yeah, but for
very minimal periods of time they had.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
It's not a Brooklyn Net situation where you had uh Durant,
Kyrie irv Kyrie Irving and Jimmy hart Heart Harden right,
It's not wasn't It wasn't a situation like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:35):
No, But it's still like when show Hay came to town,
Trout would get hurt, and then show Hey would be
hurt for a little bit and Trout would come back,
and it just felt like you could never sink them
up to be there at the same time performing at
their best. Even when they were on the field at
the same time performing, it just felt like it was
a watered down product. It wasn't a good baseball team still.

(01:14:56):
You know when the nerds stats started, it wasn't war.
It was whip walks, hits, innings pitched. In the nineties,
that's when the baseball nerds decided to commingle other statistics
and see what that's done.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
That's the hell scape you get.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Yeah, that's Baseball's got thirty different stats off the wall? Oh, no,
is Lynn knocked out?

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Yeah he's out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Wow, Ken Griffy Senior with a triple as you run
triple and that's gonna what is it a four to
three game?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Three?

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Four game now?

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
Or U four to two?

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Three two?

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
No, I'm pretty sure I thought the Socks had four.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
They did three? Yeah, that you hear? How quiet it is?
You can hear a pin drop or or a pole tab.

Speaker 3 (01:16:15):
Do they have a replay?

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
They will.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
He must have. We haven't seen the replay yet, but
he must have slammed the back of his head on
the wall or something when he was like because he
was running like that, he jumped backwards. Yep, when he jumped,
he had his back to the wall. Is this the

(01:16:45):
twenty ten feet of World Cup or those vovouzelas.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Here?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
It is look at this dead sprint and oh yeah,
slam the back of his head on the wall, just
like I thought, No, Rice, no, no, Lyn. Are they

(01:17:24):
taking him out? They got to be taking him out, right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
They've got right.

Speaker 3 (01:17:28):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
Yeah. Southern California boy, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
USC d back. Yeah, pretty solid. That's a good lineup there.
USC is a good school. Are they leaving him in here?
I think they're going to try to Where would you
rank Lynn all time? Red Sox.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Problem is he went to a lot of teams. He
went to the White Sox, he went to the Angels,
he went to the Orioles. So in his prime, he's
right up there.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
He had some speed. Yeah, I thought he was going
to make that catch. Yeah, and he was usually pretty
good about it. Old, reliable in that in that part
of the park. So Man on third, Yeah, tying run
at third. I think it's four to three. Sure it's

(01:18:36):
for three because I thought the reds had one. It's
either four three or it's three two.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
There's Joe Morgan. Daryl Johnson, by the way, was the
manager of the Red Sox, not Don Zimmer.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
I was gonna say, yeah, Don Zimmer would have been
wild getting tossed, but just outside wall.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Terrible mhm. Joe's just not getting it done in this world,
in this game. Is he go for three? Right? Yeah?

(01:19:30):
I know. Yeah, Socks only won the division by four
and a half games over the Orioles.

Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
By the way, who's on that Orioles team seventy five? Anyone?
Anyone of big name or note notary Jim Palmer was
was that Palmer's era? Yeah, yep, bench off the Monster? Yes,

(01:20:06):
what a play? What?

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Yeah he knew how he knew how again again it
was a hit. Yeah, he knew if he knew how
to play, the carame at Fenway. Yeah, well yeah, he
could play off the wall incredibly.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Immediately to the glove. That's impressive. Yeah, he knew the
you know, the knooks and crannies of of the Monster,
of the Monster. Yeah, it's just crazy because there are
so many players like that's the one thing and that's
the one thing I love about Fenway is the Monster.
And all the ballparks are unique. There isn't one ballpark

(01:20:49):
that's the same as another. They all have their own dimensions,
you know, they have the mound is the same, the distance,
but yeah, the wall, the dimensions of the stadium outfield
are different for every staying, every single one, and the
Monster is one of the hardest left fields to play.
It's it's uh like, when you talk about home field

(01:21:11):
advantage in sports, there might not be a more important
home field advantage than the Monster and.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
The bullpen for the Red Sox they got.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
But like think about it, can you think of a
better home field advantage in sports than like one where
it's actually it affects the game. You might not say
it's better home field advantage, but really, is there another
home field advantage that is that affects the game as
much as the Monster? Maybe Seattle's twelfth man in football

(01:21:44):
like the Seahawks just because.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
That that Lambo field in Green Bay, like Kansas decibels
Arrowhead Stadium. Tony Kubeck goes well by the way on
the broadcast with Joe get with Dick Stockton and Joe Garrettgiola,
Mum two tracks, kuebec and was Costas and kuebec as

(01:22:14):
the number two broadcast team in the eighties. So Snake
Eyes to two.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
To two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Reds won one hundred and eight games this year nineteen
seventy five.

Speaker 3 (01:22:30):
What's the record?

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
One hundred and sixteen by the Mariners in two thousand
and one.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
One hundred and eight is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
One hundred and eight al right, franchise high one hundred
and eight victories and won the NL West by twenty games.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
Twenty games? Yeah, how many teams were there? Were there
still thirty teams? No?

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Not in nineteen seventy five. Yeah, there's no experience.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
When how many teams are there in seventy five?

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
Struck them out? Let's see, Oh it's three to three, Okay,
we're going to the bottom of the fifth inning, tied
at three. There's Dick Stockton, there's Joe Garret giol and
there's Tony Kubeck.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Green screen of the like they're they're like keyed over.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Yeah, they're not in the crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
No, there, this is great. They have them. They have
like the game green screened behind the commentators. That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Yeah, I loved that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
Look they need to bring that back. That's that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Well, everything's ai now right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
Can you imagine Tom Brady and te.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Kevin burke Hart and Tom Brady, TB and.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
KB green screen over the football game. I'd love that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:46):
There's yeahs, So how many teams were brought in baseball
back in nineteen seventy five. Oh yeah, we can eliminate
the Rays, right, we can eliminate the Diamondbacks, we can
eliminate the Rockies, we can eliminate the Marlins. So that's
what twenty six teams is that it twenty six teams

(01:24:08):

Speaker 3 (01:24:09):
That's saw a lot. It's pretty much the same league,
just a couple of extra teams nowadays. But twenty games
ahead of twenty sixteens, Like twenty games ahead of your division?

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Is crazy? Like who was in the central that it was?

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
It wasn't the set again? The Reds were in the West?

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Oh they were?

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah? Okay, yep?

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
Who was in their division?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
West Coast teams like the Giants and the Dodgers and
the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
But I didn't know. It's like it was it? So?
Was it just East and West?

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:24:43):
Like there was no central at all?

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
East? West? Okay, Cardinals, Cubs in the East? Pirates yeas
with a hit, yep, yas is a board. Reds defeated
the Pirates, swept them three games. Again, this was a
best of five back then?

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Was the World Series best of five?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Or was that seven? Still? Seven? Red Sox swept the
World's the reigning defending undisputed World Series champion Oakland A's
swept them in three games.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
And this was after they they had so they were
trying to they were looking to go four in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:25:20):
Yeah, they were the team of the seventies.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
I did I say that? Sounds like one of the
best teams ever. Three P in any sport. Almost impossible,
lolly fingers, Reggie Gene Tennis catfish hunter, catfish hunter. He

(01:25:47):
can handle a bat fish, can hit the right side,
he can handle a back.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
Charlestown, New Hampshire's own ready to I think Jake Taylor
of Major League is based Tom Barrenger's character. I think
it's based on Carlton Fisk. Just a more Wow. The
Pete Rose playing, by the way at a third in
this game.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
I didn't even realize.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
Because Joe Morgan was playing second. They got Joe Morgan
from the Astros. I thought Pete played first, though he
played second well well again, he played a lot outfield.
I think when he started at our second base, then outfield,
then third, they put him in all kinds of and
he could play them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Yeah, So would you consider Pete Rose the greatest baseball
player of all time? No, who do you think is
the greatest baseball You think Willie Mays.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Mays is the greatest baseball player of all time.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
Why, what's the thought process behind him?

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
Complete player?

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
What about like Jackie Robinson to a mostly.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Instrument Well, Bob Costas, had they talked about this on baseball?
Is Robinson the greatest baseball player of all time?

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Is he the most important baseball player of all time? Yes?
But what there's rico?

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
What makes Willie Mays the greatest baseball player of all time?

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
He could run, he could hit, he could field. He
didn't have little girl legs like Babe Ruth. That's, by
the way, that was Larry David. Well, Larry David's voice
imitating George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld. He said, Babe Ruth was
nothing more than a fack out with little girl legs. So,
fifth inning tied at three in the nineteen seventy five

(01:27:39):
World Series Game six at Fenways, Siege Red's Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Going into the sixth.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
This happened fifty years ago today, folks. Fifty years ago today.
Tony Kubeck yep Kubec was a good broadcaster. He never
got the credit though. George Foster foss Day's like.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
The third checked swing to get hit for.

Speaker 1 (01:28:03):
That was a vicious throw by LTI. He wanted to
make sure that that that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Was that was a fastball. It's a four steamer going
to the first baseman.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Cooper's like, can you throw me like a spitball?

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
That looked like what that looked like the ball the
first baseman threw to me when I got my concussion.
It's about that same speed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Can you throw spitball? Please? Don't hurt me.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Deianta's got this.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Dave conception.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
He's got that that ethis looking pitch is weird. Yeah,
that last one he threw in it looked like it
had some speed behind it. But it's like a curveball
or something. I can't even describe it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
You know. The last person to pitch that weird kind
not that twist or that right twirl. You know who
used to kind of have something similar to that of
recent note, right, Tim Linsecam, Remember he would do that
the drag. In fact, I'll do it right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
Dog's giving us a show and tell here in the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
You can't see it, folks, but you gotta believe me.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
You gotta feel it, feel the emotion behind him.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Yeah, let me throw you a twenty five mile per
hour curveball ten cent noodle arm. By the way, I
had a rocket for an arm in the outfield because
I would watch like Vladdie when he played for the
Expos right, Vladimir Guerrero Senior. Yes, but of course he
was just Vladimir Guerrero. He wasn't called senior. I would

(01:29:45):
see him the way he would pick up the ball
from the glove right and have the transfer to just talk,
you know. And I did. And I'm not trying to
brag or anything, but when I was playing like left
or right field, I would be aware of where to you,
I would be aware of whom to throw it to
in a situation.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
You're good at reading the reading the player, or evaluating
the play as it developed.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Caesar, Gero or Caesar. It could be either Szar. Yeah, Czar.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
By the way, says are Geronimo.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
That's a baseball nickname. That's a baseball name. That is
a baseball name.

Speaker 3 (01:30:22):
If I haven't ever heard, Yeah, did you normally play outfield?
Were you like a predominant outfielder?

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
D H second base. Is that all we're gonna call that? Fair?

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
These Reds uniforms are clean? Aren't they just Cincinnati a
number in the name.

Speaker 3 (01:30:44):
I think it's It is tough though, to differentiate between
the Reds and the Red Sox with the hats.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
Yeah, although the Reds have like black on their hair
or blue, whereas the Reds just have a straight or
they are they yeah, hold on, let me so. Yeah,
the Red Sox have like the blue brim. The brim
is navy. Yeah. So, by the way, I think they're
gonna wear those next year for the uh Cooperstown Week.
I think they're gonna wear those next year. That'd be

(01:31:12):
cool because they wore these in seventy well this is
seventy five, but they wore those in seventy six as well,
And as you know, nineteen seventy six was the bi
centennial year.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
Yes, by a centennial, that's wild. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Is.
I think like Massachusetts is doing like a new license
plate this year to like honor the like two fifty. Yeah,
the two fiftieth anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
We've got two fifty celebrations going on around in these
parts as well. Yes, so, Terry Crowley.

Speaker 3 (01:31:39):
Mister Crowley, please hit a home run.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Sounded like Adam said, believe you shared a home run?
Was mister Crowley a drug reference?

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
I don't know. Mister Brownstone was a drug reference for
guns and roses. I wouldn't be surprised Ozzie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Was at that time.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
Yeah, he was a little you know, have you seen
you've you've had to have seen the clip of him
at the Cubs game.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
Yes, we've talked about he didn't know the words. He's
lived in this country a bunch of years. He didn't
know the words. I think it was just making up as.

Speaker 3 (01:32:27):
Sounds like Jack Sparrow.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Yeah, he was pre Sparrow football. What seeing you're there
here is baseball and football and broom sports?

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Is Ozzy Osbourne the British version of John Madden.

Speaker 1 (01:32:44):
Well, John Madden was a coach and a TV analyst
and a good one.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Yeah, but are they are they?

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Ozzy Osbourne was blabbering incoherently. Yeah, but Madden at times
was blabbering. No, he was just he was well he was.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
He was kind of stammering and we're kind of we're
picking I guess it's not blabbering. It's stamp is a
better way to put it. Ozzie is a blabbering is
a good way to describe it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Yes, but he was incoherent. Yes, where.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Madden was just trying to get his point across, he
could just get it. He's just getting excited sometimes. Duckan
have you ever had tree duck in?

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Or No? No, I don't eat duck. I want to
see daffy on my plate. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
You want to hear actually a good story.

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Yeah, I've had duck sauce, but I guess that that
has nothing to do with squeezing ducks.

Speaker 3 (01:33:37):
I don't mind trying duck. I don't mind trying interesting food,
especially when I'm on vacation in foreign country. When I
was on my honeymoon, Yeah, on a foreign country, or
in a foreign country.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
In a foreign country. Yeah, if you're on a foreign country,
there might be some issues.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
I was in a foreign country and first day I
get to England, right, we land in England?

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
And my wife is a big foodie, big big food.
She loves gourdonmet food. We're big fans of Gordon Ramsey.
She watches his videos to cook her food. She's very
big foody so before we went on our honeymoon, she
was like, I want to go to a Gordon Ramsey
restaurant while we're in England. That's where he's from, right

(01:34:21):
and Land He's got like five star restaurant. And it's
our honeymoon. We're going all out. Yeah you're not so
where she gets You're not going You're not going to Popeye, right,
she gets Popeye us a reservation to I forget what
the name of it is. It was some fancy name,
but she gets us, No one's that second.

Speaker 1 (01:34:42):
You might want to have somebody at second base when
that happens. What are you thinking?

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
Oh my gosh, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
So I get really bad in motion sickness, like extremely
bad and traveling. I always get really bad motion sickness, flying, driving,
whatever when I when I go on trips, I'm always
the one who's driving because if someone else is driving,

(01:35:10):
I get sick in the passenger seat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I get no matter what.

Speaker 3 (01:35:13):
Yeah, almost every time, I'm really But when I went
to when I went to d C. Yeah, the uber
ride to the airport on our way out of town,
I got, I threw out the window. I get.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
So you didn't get just motion you actually got sick.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
I get sick, really bad, really bad motion sickness. So
so why I don't do the rides. Well, that and
I don't want to get to Capital. So we Leonardo decapitate.
We fly to England. I slept on the flight. It
was a long flight.

Speaker 1 (01:35:36):
Pete rose now at the dish.

Speaker 3 (01:35:38):
Slept on the flight. We land in England, we had
a chauffeur, like to the not like a like. We
had like a driver, not like a show. Yeah, like
a like someone to take us from the airport to
our hotel because it was part of Disney's like package.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
So this person picks us up, and I get sick
in the car because I'm not good in car rides
and on the wrong side of the road in the
back seat of a car that I'm not comfortable with,
and it's hot, and I'm getting uncomfortable feeling sick, and
so we make it back to the hotel. But I'm
just feeling like off for the rest of the day
because motion sickness is just already set in, and jet
lag starts to hit and I'm tired. I want to sleep,

(01:36:19):
but I can. It's daytime and I'm all messed with
and we're trying to we're trying to enjoy the trip. Yeah,
so we we rest for a little bit, but we
don't want to go to sleep because we don't want
the jet lagged, Like, we don't want to be up
all night. We want we want to get accustomed to
the time. And so we stay up and we have dinner.

(01:36:41):
Nice red sox put it away, get out of there,
no harm, no foul there.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
So going to the bottom of the sixth it's still
tied three to three. Uh So we go to dinner
at this Gordon Ramsey restaurant and it's a pre fixed
menu essentially, like you pay and you're getting like six courses. Yes,
there's no like you don't get to pick and choose.
It's like there's like a prefixed men you get to
pick like from three options for dinner or whatever. And

(01:37:08):
I'm trying to choose something exotic because I'm on vacation.
So I was like, you know what I'm gonna I'm
going to try rabbit, even though I've heard it's gamey whatever.
I was like, I could get past it. I've eaten
gator fed catfish, I've had you know, duck, I've.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Eaten some syndro bon.

Speaker 3 (01:37:27):
I've eaten some random things in my life, you know, venison,
different types of meats, whatever. So I'm like, I could
eat rabbit, it's whatever. What I didn't realize is it's
rabbit with black pudding. Do you know what black pudding is?

Speaker 1 (01:37:41):
There's Dwight Evans leading off, what it's black pudding?

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
Do you know what black pudding is?

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
It's black pudding.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
It's blood sausage, is what black pudding is. It's black
pudding is another name for it, but it's blood sausage.
It's it's meat with actual blood. I took one bite
and instantly was like, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
I did not finish the rest of them.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Two glasses of water before I finished one bite because
I was on the verge of throwing up. I'm already
feeling sick. I've got this gross. It touched my apologize,
it touched my tongue, and I was instantly ready to
just like nope, we're not. And then the worst part
it was a great meal, like overall, like despite that

(01:38:29):
one problem, the rest of the meal was good. But
the worst part was like I'm already feeling sick, right,
I'm ready to go. I want to leave, and they're like,
all right, we only have three more courses to go,
so I have to sit there and eat like three
more courses after I'm already feeling sick and on the
brink of like being sick.

Speaker 1 (01:38:50):
Huh Evans, Yeah, yeah, feeling sick.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
They had like palate cleansers in between the courses too,
so it's not even just recourses. It's like here's the
next course, here's a palate cleanser. Rick Burlson some like
apple pear shaved ice that you have to eat in between.
Here's the next Like, we.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Don't do that, so when we're seeing something like this,
it's probably a culture show.

Speaker 3 (01:39:15):
My stomach is just like I'm ready to go to bed, please,
I've been up for like twenty four hours. I almost
threw up in the car, like I had my meal.
I want to go, please can I go? And the
the waiter's like, no, you can't leave. We got like
two more courses and I was like, please let me leave,
and then finally we got to go. But yeah, rugged

(01:39:37):
rugged talking about exotic food. Sorry for the long winded.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
So is the food Is the food terrible in the UK?

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Actually, just that one meal was bad and that wasn't
like that was just because I didn't like that meal.
But like, the best breakfast I've ever had in my
entire life was at the hotel we stayed at, Yeah,
the Kimpton Fitzroy in London, a five star hotel. Look
it up. Amazing place. The NFL head coaches stayed there.
When I was there, Matt eberflus ate breakfast next to me.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
What happened to him?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
He got fired? Yeah, that week. I'm pretty sure they
either that week or the next fire was the next week?

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
No, it was it was when they lost to wash Yeah, no, no, no,
you know what it was.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
It was thegiving game because of the management with the clock.
They had like a minute left on the clock and
they didn't call a timeout and they had like two
timeouts left or something.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Yeah, and here comes Sparky Anderson. You know what Sparky's
birthname is, George.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
George smoked a pipe, by the way, so interesting, Whereas
you know, Jimmy Leland was just you know, smoke a
You've seen pictures right of Jimmy Leland in a dugout.
What does he do? That's you can't do that in
the dugout. I've heard Ron Washington did that too. What's

(01:40:56):
the Phillies guy's name is it? Is it Kirk John
John Krucky. I've heard him tell stories about like guys
back in the in his days with the Phillies, when
they would smoke in the locker room, like just be changed. Yeah,
just chain smoking butts in the locker room in the clubhouse.
It's like, what are we doing? Michael Jordan, I'm pretty
sure talked about that, like his first year with like

(01:41:18):
the Bulls or something. They'd be like drinking and smoking
butts in the locker room. It's like in the eighties
Bill Cartwright doing put that down. It's like that. It
reminds me of that the clip of Luca after the
the MAVs one or whatever in the playoffs and Luca
had the beer in his hand and the the like

(01:41:38):
owner the manager came by and like grabbed the beer
out of Luca's hand. Yess, that's same, same.

Speaker 1 (01:41:44):
And you're not going to drink that, yeah, Turn it
over to page sixty five. Luca's beer is taking away
from Well, Luca was all about the hookah as well,
you know the hookah lounge. Really Yeah, so beer and hookah.
So how did because a player turned him onto it
because he had never gotten that in Slovenia.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
So I didn't. This is news to me. I didn't
know Luca was big into the hookah.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
The Dan LeBatard Show sells shirts of that hookah. Luca
h that's fun. Yeah with Lakers colors, by the way,
that's fun. You gotta see it. I mean yeah, go
to LeBatard af dot com. Yeah, I U. I used to.

Speaker 3 (01:42:23):
I used to Pedro Borbon regular the Hookah Lounge in
in uh San Antonio when I was in school. There
was like one right off base that we used to
all go hit and there was a there was actually
one I used to go to that.

Speaker 1 (01:42:35):
Was a big uh cecil Cooper.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
It was ed Allen Poe themed And I'm big into
like that gothic uh styling and things like Wednesday, you know,
Adam's family type stuff, spooky gothic. I'm I'm a I'm
a big holds the season folks.

Speaker 1 (01:42:54):
We are in October after.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
I'm a big horror movie fan. I'm a big like
scary movie guy. Love that. But you didn't watch that
Mickey Mouse horror movie, right, No, Okay, I know which
one you're talking about. Yeah, they did a Winnie the
Pooh one too, Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (01:43:08):
They're making another one.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
It's like, what was the Winnie the Pooh one. It
was like, it's gonna sound so stupid. I think it's
called like blood and Pooh or something like that, but
that can't be the name.

Speaker 1 (01:43:19):
No, that's probably the next don't give them any ideas.
It's probably the.

Speaker 3 (01:43:22):
Next one, Winnie the Pooh. Blood and honey is what it's.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
Called in honey, Yeah, not money honey. The reason why
they could make these movies is because the intellectual property
expire expired, so they are able to do that. They
can use that in production.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Isn't it like one hundred years?

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
It's either ninety or one hundred. In music, your rights
essentially can be used if the publisher of the composer
is to see stuffer. I think fifty years.

Speaker 3 (01:43:52):
That's why you see less time with music.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
You see that with Beethoven and Mozart, they some of
their works can be used in productions that you didn't
think were going to be used. So, of course there's
Ken Griffy Senior. But I was gonna say it was
of course they're not composers anymore. They're decomposers. That's good
face it for. Is that Joe, No, that's George Kenneth

(01:44:15):
Griffy Evans Ken Griffy Jr. Ken Griffy Junior's born name
is actually George George Kenneth Griffy born in Donra, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (01:44:28):
I'm glad it's Ken Griffy and not George Griffy. Ken
Griffy rolls off. The George Griffy sounds like a broadcaster,
doesn't it. It's me George Griffy. Here Colin Sports Central.
Colin on Sports Central.

Speaker 1 (01:44:43):
The first by the way, Cincinnati Reds. Uh what do
you call it? Cincinnati Reds Connection to Sports Center. The
first edition was hosted by George grand who would later
become TV voice in the nineties and the two thousands
of the Cincinnati Reds. Do the Cincinnati do the oldest

(01:45:08):
team in baseball, the Cincinnati Reds. In fact, the Red
Sox open up the twenty twenty sixth season at the Reds.

Speaker 3 (01:45:14):
Yes, I know, I'm trying to go. I don't I
don't know if I will be able to, but I'd
like to go out. I want to try and fly
out there and see the.

Speaker 1 (01:45:20):
Game, because the first game they play in the morning
is in Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
So yeah, I want to go out to the I
want to try And when's the date? You know? No,
not off the top of my head.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
It better not be early April. It better not be
early April. You know why I say this, right, Joe
Morgan's at the plate, because where am I going for
the home opener?

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
What to Cleveland?

Speaker 1 (01:45:46):
I'm going to Cleveland against the Cubs in the twenty
sixteen World Series rematch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
I think they took some good pitches.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Dick Draco. There is wrong, No Dick Draco. And then
in the bullpen saw Dick Drago at the baseball dinner,
by the way, one of the last baseball dinners they
had for the New Hampshire fisher Cats. Currently they do
golf outings now, which raises money for the fisher Cats Foundation.

Speaker 3 (01:46:25):
I can't see the schedule. It just keeps showing me
the postseason, all.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Right, Just Boston Red Sox twenty twenty six schedule. Won't
do that, will it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:46:41):
I tried that, it won it won't pop up for me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
It's wrong with your phone. Here we go, Okay, please
not let me.

Speaker 3 (01:46:52):
Well, I could find it, but it was coming like
the It's March, right.

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
I think it's going to be Mark. It is March
March twenty seventh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
I think it's the twenty sixth. It's a Thursday. Yeah, yeah,
they play on the twenty sixth on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
You're going to be in the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:47:09):
They have Friday off, then they have Saturday Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Correct because it's a weather day because they play outside.

Speaker 3 (01:47:14):
Folks at you, when are you going to Cleveland.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
I'm going to Cleveland April. I leave the second and
I come back to seventh.

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
The second is a Thursday, yep, because I leave.

Speaker 1 (01:47:22):
The idea is that's the travel day for me. Get there,
get into where I need to go. Right, there's Joe
Morgan at the dish, right. April third is the home opener,
the fourth is the second game. The fifth is the
third game, right, and then I'm going to the Calves game,
Calves Pacers for Sunday night basketball on Peacock by the way, Yep,

(01:47:45):
it's back that night. That's at six or I think
it's at six pm, right, and then go to the
Guardians Royals game the next day.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
Got a couple of six series. Sorry you said, mhm, yes,
had a canon toe. It looked like he was gonna
blow it by the cutoff.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
I was gonna blow it by Rick Burrows. Johnny Bench,
where's you know what state is Johnny Benchmam? Do you
know same as Mickey Mantle Oklahoma?

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
Where the wind blows trailers around the park. That's right,
teat still in the game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
H I was gonna stick with him, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:47):
I like when a manager believes in his in his
picture the anti Grady little Yeah, but sometimes that can
blow up in your face.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Yes it can.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Ye. I wonder what the weather was like at this game.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
It rained earlier in the day, so yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
Got to be chilly, you know in October.

Speaker 1 (01:49:08):
Well, they're not where, Yeah, they're not where. They're all seid.
They seem to be wearing sleeves. So again, this was
October twenty first, so we're just almost bare We're well,
we're barely late. Whereas now the World Series starts pretty
much at the end of October.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
Because they got more playoff games to play and.

Speaker 1 (01:49:26):
Stuff like that. Is that Buddy Bell, No, it's Johnny Bench,
My bad. I have Buddy Bells starting line up when
he played for the Reds. So in the pose where
he's like crouched down trying to get Yeah, I love
that pose, like a back pick, yeah, essentially trying to
get the ball hit. Yeah, the glove side.

Speaker 3 (01:49:48):
Whoas a loud contact h similar to like a Vlad
senior swing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:06):
Here, great swing though, Oh it's a great swing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
No gloves for Johnny Bench.

Speaker 1 (01:50:17):
Tony Perez only his one glove.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Think no one has that. I don't know what, I
don't know what it's called. But the little like the
little padding for the the wooden like, yeah, the thumb
device that they that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:30):
Batters padding essentially, Yeah, it's to like help with didn't
have that back then.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Yeah, talk about arthritis and your fingers and joints. That
stinging feeling hitting a baseball must have been rugged. Griffy's
testing him. Not even close.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Good jump though, Yeah, that's good for Griffy for a
good jump because you've got runners at what first and third? Right,
You've got a good jump from Griffy, right because Evans
can just well you saw, oh you saw that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:08):
Yeah, Evans had a gun. I thought he was going
to be close, but Griffy was on that he was
not even in frame by the time the ball hit
the infield.

Speaker 1 (01:51:15):
Look at those sideburns of I know a lot of
Like I said George Foster, this is a very nineteen
seventies game, folks, very nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Seventies stylized like the seventies. They were making a lot
of money back then, folks, the old double steal.

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
On the same page, what do you guys want to
it's what do you guys want to do? Or what
are you guys thinking?

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Is gonna where? We were going to the cask and
flogging after this? Boys, Yeah, yeah, I'm going to the
casket flogging.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
Cask and flagging. What do I friends had a seizure
at the casket flag and yikes. Yeah, Red Sox were
playing the A's and I went to a There was
a little party going on at the casket flag and
at the cask and I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:52:11):
You land on his hat. Yeah, so yikes. It was
like two thousand and nine. I wasn't there, so I
don't know. If I've been into the cask before.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
I've only been there. I've been there twice. No, it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
I usually should go only yeah, I only pass when
i'm I'm I'm only in the area when I'm going
to like the socks usually, so it's like I usually
don't stop in or I've.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
Only had water there. I've not had like food or
anything like that. I want to at some point. So
because I was at Fenway what twice this year? Yeah,
first time since two thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
But the thing is, when you go to Fenway, usually
grab food at the game.

Speaker 1 (01:52:46):
I don't, yeah, like I normally common people do.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
I'll grab like a friend Way Frank, or like a
yeah definitely not, or like a Aaron's big into the
clam chowder. I usually don't get the chowder. But I
actually I don't like clam chowder. I like clams, but
not a chowder guy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
It's got to be done right for me.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
I'm not a chowder guy or a bis guy. I
like a stew if I'm talking soup season, I like.
I like a stew, like a beef stew. My wife
does a buffalo chicken stew.

Speaker 1 (01:53:20):
So good off the wall five three now wow, Yeah,
this is why they're the big red machine. They have
stormed back.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
And it didn't even look like Te's been having a
good game. It feels like he hasn't really given up much,
but somehow he's given up five runs in a matter
of what feels like minutes.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
M dave concepta outzer or do they have I think two?

Speaker 3 (01:54:04):
I think too as well. I just got to get
out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
Do you know what Manhattan clam chowder is? No, that
is tomato with clam Tomato soup with clam chowder.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
That sounds like one of the worst things ever.

Speaker 1 (01:54:19):
I don't like tomato soup.

Speaker 3 (01:54:21):
So I hate tomato soup. I hate clam chowder. That
sounds horrendous. That's that's what Monster made that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
They wanted to separate it from New England clam chowder.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
So okay, yeah, it's probably Manhattan clam chowder. Probably looks
like the water in Manhattan. Oh no, oh, no oh,
there's a reason why it's called New England. No one wants.
No one wants Manhattan clam chowder. Everyone wants New England

(01:54:54):
clam No one was No one was begging for I had.
I've never met anyone that was like, you know what,
I could I could really go for a Manhattan clam chowder.
Let me go to New York to get clam chowder.
They've got good clams in New York never. I had
a guy one time getting an argument with me. He

(01:55:16):
tried to tell me that Florida lobster was better than
main long.

Speaker 1 (01:55:18):
I've never had Florida lobster, so I wouldn't even don't
try it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
It's disgusted. It tastes like rotten fish. Okay, Florida lobster.
I've had Canadian lobster. Florida lobster. They don't. I don't
know if you, if you ever get a chance, look
up at Florida lobster. There they look like spiders.

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
They don't have them. They don't have claws. Yeah, okay,
I know, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
Now. I've never never had them, so it's gross. Don't
eat one. Avoid it. This guy tried to sit there
and argue with me, and I was like, just because
you're from Florida doesn't mean that everything from Florida has
to be better.

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
And Burlson get it, and Heyne bottom of the we're
going seventh inning stretch in Boston, Cincinnati leading five to
three out of nowhere, Game six of the nineteen seventy
five World Series. Here on the playback, Jay Doug and
CJ talking about fifty years ago today October twenty first,

(01:56:16):
nineteen seventy five. Here we are October twenty first, twenty
twenty five. This was fifty years of this classic game.
We want to thank MLB Vault on the YouTube channel
on YouTube. By the way, Denny Doyle has been mister
on base.

Speaker 3 (01:56:30):
Yes, yeah, Well that's the thing is it feels like
the Red Sox are making hits in contact, but they've
left at least like twice left two or more runners
on base. Yeah, they had that inning with the bases
loaded that they left them loaded, and then I think
two innings later they left a man on second and
third and it's like that. That's the difference between the
game right now. Is Cincinnati being able to storm back

(01:56:52):
and score. And I think maybe that injury to Lynn
also might have you know, maybe he is able to
make that catch in the outfield mopped it up. Maybe
if Lynn can make for the original catch that he
got hurt on, it changes the game as well as
that last play where Morgan and Griffy scored. If Lynn

(01:57:15):
doesn't hit his back on the wall, maybe he's able
to run and make that catch too.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
There's yeas, but also for three in this game, the
pitching has.

Speaker 3 (01:57:22):
To be better.

Speaker 1 (01:57:23):
Carl Yastremsky, the only Red Sox player from start to
finish with three thousand hits the more time, the only
player from the start to finish in his career with
three thousand hits the entire team for the Red Sox.

Speaker 3 (01:57:39):
Yes, oh, like he got three for one. Is it
just for the Red Sox or is that he never
played for anybody? Or are you saying like he's the
only player ever to do that for one team? No,
for the for the rest, for the Red Sox. Because
Ted Williams didn't have three thousand hits, because you know, yeah,
he went to the time World War two and Korean conflict. Yeah,

(01:57:59):
a lot of people thought, Yeah, if he had stayed
or if he never went, he retired with five hundred
and twenty one home runs, Think about that, Think about that.
If he doesn't go to let's say war doesn't happen, Yeah,
the Korean Conflict doesn't happen, World War two doesn't happen.
He could have conceivably hit a thousand home runs. Yeah,

(01:58:20):
a thousand home runs. Ted Williams, Carlton Fiske at the dish.
It it's things like that, that make me love sports. Yeah,
because it's the what ifs that like really change what
the way you had looked at him sports and think
about things is. It's like Ted Williams in some people's eyes,
may be the greatest baseball player of all time.

Speaker 1 (01:58:41):
He might be the greatest hitter of all time. Yeah. Yeah, there,
and in fact you said there, I want to be
remembered when I walk there goes the greatest hitter who
ever lived in batting titles.

Speaker 3 (01:58:52):
I mean, he could be considered one of the great
like the greatest. But it's again the fact that he
missed those years.

Speaker 1 (01:58:59):
Yeah it really He still hit five hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:59:02):
And that's crazy. That's so crazy. And he would have
probably had three thousand hits if he had no for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:59:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59:10):
Oh what was his Uh didn't he have? Like over?
He's got over it. That was a one two, three inning. Yeah,
I was about to say I didn't. I thought that
was the first at bad. I didn't over. We're going
into the eighth and it's still five to three Cincinnati, Teddy.
I want to see his stats real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
Yeah, but did you see did you see him in
the World Wall? Did you see us? Yeah? Saysar Geronimo
at the dish for the Reds leading off in the
top of the eighth inning. Did you see his stats
in the World Series? Ted?

Speaker 3 (01:59:41):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
He only played in one World Series seven games. Wow,
the red score another one. Yeah, Geronimo goes deep, Gerrunimo.
That's what they're probably saying.

Speaker 3 (01:59:57):
Uh. Two times MVP, six time batting title, nineteen time
All Star, two time Triple Crown winner, two time Triple
Crown winner. Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. Daryl Johnson is

(02:00:20):
going to three years. Yeah, so maybe not a thousand
home runs, no, but seven hundred. Let me see Luis
taken out of this game, one hundred and sixty two
game average, he averaged thirty seven home runs a game
a year. Yeah, so thirty seven times three is ninety

(02:00:44):
one one hundred and eleven. So add that to his total.
So like six hundred and thirty two if he averaged
thirty seven, Yeah, I mean he could have hit more
of it, right, six hundred, Like I'll say, I'll be generous,
I'll round it up. He probably could have hit about

(02:01:06):
like six hundred and fifty home runs.

Speaker 1 (02:01:08):
Okay, still not more than Willie Mays.

Speaker 3 (02:01:11):
True.

Speaker 1 (02:01:15):
Roger Morett. Right there, Roger Morett now pitching for the
Red Sox. Look how lanky he is.

Speaker 3 (02:01:20):
They finally took Tiant out. Yes, I mean they had to.
They're down, it's late. He pitched seven innings. That's, in
my opinion, seven innings is what a starter should pitch.
I don't think there. I know I've brought up the
the discussion of like a minimum inning rule as we

(02:01:40):
you know, discuss like potential rules that they could come
up with in the future, But I don't. I don't
think that they needed. I guess I just think that
I think starters should aim for seven innings. If you
throw more than seven innings, I think, actually, let me
change my let me change it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
A quality start is a statistic in baseball. That is,
if you pitch six innings and give up I think,
what is it, less than three runs, it's considered a
quality start. Make it. Change it from six innings to
seven innings, and I would I would be cool with that.
I honestly think that would be a good Like, Well,
it's not going to happen because then you if you

(02:02:18):
change a quality start to seven innings, then it makes
it so starting pitchers aim for seven innings pitched and
not like again, doesn't mean pitchers have to pitch seven
innings or whatever. They could still get the win after
what four or five in bonds, first at bat in
the World Series, pinch hitting. Yeah, yeah, well he's the pitcher.
So oh, but it's like if I don't know, change

(02:02:46):
it to seven innings and I'd feel better about that much.

Speaker 1 (02:02:49):
I don't, I think, don'tymore, Garrett Crochet, does.

Speaker 3 (02:02:55):
You know there's there's some pictures that like Scoople could
go seven innings.

Speaker 1 (02:03:00):
Not anymore. Maybe in the postseason. I feel like not
in the regular season.

Speaker 3 (02:03:07):
But that's just because teams are so they're too dialed
in on the analytics exact. Well, that's that's them. That's
analytics don't win games.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Pete Rose now eight for twenty two in the World
Series so far.

Speaker 3 (02:03:23):
Is he a switch hitter?

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Yes, it's gonna say.

Speaker 3 (02:03:28):
I didn't notice because he's been batting from the left
handed side this whole time. They had Ti ont In
there the whole time, so Pete was batting lefty. Pete
Rose is a switch hitter. That's just mind blowing. He
has forty two hundred hits and he's a switch hitter.

(02:03:52):
What were his splits do we know?

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
I don't know. Yeah, I've usually seen him hit the
ball out of the left side of the box the
right side, yeah, Roger Mourrett.

Speaker 3 (02:04:12):
I want to see. I don't know if they have
it here on Baseball Reference.

Speaker 1 (02:04:17):
Like a.

Speaker 3 (02:04:23):
Hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:04:27):
Ken Griffyr.

Speaker 3 (02:04:36):
He's a better hitter from the left side of the plate.
He batted three oh seven from the left. He batted
two ninety four from the right coming down to the
wire here.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
Bottom of the eighth inning.

Speaker 3 (02:04:55):
Cincinnati is eleven hits. I feel like their offense just
turned on out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 (02:05:03):
If you win one hundred and eight games, you better
be able to turn it off. Yeah, that's why they're
the machine, the big Red machine.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
See. But I would have been a little frustrated being
a fan back in this time period, because it's like
you watch the A's go to four to three World Series,
and when you got the Reds dominating constantly, it's.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
Like, guess who else too?

Speaker 3 (02:05:28):
The Yankees? Oh yeah, yeah, what is this, mister October
time frame?

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
Like we're getting to that time Yeah, we're getting to there.
We're getting there. It's like, uh, then you know the
Orioles and the Pirates in the early seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:05:42):
It's it's just like almost like the when the Calves
and the Warriors were dominating every basketball every single year. Yeah,
Lynn hits a single off the pitch.

Speaker 1 (02:05:56):
What watch but watch Johnny Bench.

Speaker 3 (02:05:59):
Why do you stop him from throwing it?

Speaker 1 (02:06:06):
Right? Because if he throws it away, you get him
in scoring position. Five to three games suddenly becomes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:13):
It could be six y three is what the scoreboard said.

Speaker 1 (02:06:17):
Six to three game could be a six. And there's Rico.

Speaker 3 (02:06:20):
Petricelli here you go, Petriselle. Well, they're letting him throw
some warm up pitches because he got hit by the ball. Yes,
it hit him in the ankle. Speed the game up.
Come on, where's the pitch clock?

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
Wow? Back in those days it was actually pretty fat.
Games were barely three if that really in those days
and seventies. Yeah, because you didn't have any ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (02:06:49):
Well, Johnny Bench, make a play, it's foul.

Speaker 1 (02:06:54):
Dive for it.

Speaker 3 (02:06:54):
Make it out. Also, why are we rocking? I? Well,
I guess because you're playing catcher.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
It's like.

Speaker 3 (02:07:07):
When I played catcher, I never wore a backwards helmet,
Like I didn't have a catcher's helmet, Like I just wore.

Speaker 1 (02:07:12):
My hat bench because it was easier for him to
like slide the slide the mask off. Yeah. Again those
back in those days, it was a lot different. The
availability was not there in terms of like now they
have an equipment and they like hockey helmets.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
Yeah, I hate that.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
I actually do like it.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
I hate that. I like it. I like the old
catcher masks still. I think that's like an iconic. I
I know what you mean though, Like you can design
your mask, you know.

Speaker 1 (02:07:41):
When first that did that, Sandy Alomar Junior, when he
was in Cleveland. He would have the Cleveland like designs on.

Speaker 3 (02:07:47):
The It was like a hockey helmet.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
Yeah, it was awesome. It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (02:07:51):
I wanted one of those forever because I played goalie
and hockey. I always wanted a custom helmet. But they're
so expensive, so expensive to get your helmet custom and painted.
It's like so expensive. You could buy custom ones. There
was like a store down in Dover. We would do
like a jamboree every year down in Dover. Yeah, they
have like a a ice rink with like four rinks

(02:08:14):
inside of it, or two rinks or something like that.
So they would always host like the jamboree for the
youth travel teams and stuff. And they have a store
right across the street where they'd sell custom painted helmets,
and I always wanted one, but even even the pre
painted ones that were like not custom to what you want,
we're still like three hundred four hundred bucks. And that
was like early two thousands. It's like my parents are like, yeah, no, no.

(02:08:38):
For a while. When I played goalie, I wore just
a regular helmet, like I wore just like a regular cage,
not like a goalie helmet, but like a regular helmet
with like a a chin guard still on it, similar
to like a Tim Thomas, if you know Tim Thomas.
But I like the regular catcher mask because I like

(02:08:59):
to be able to slip it off.

Speaker 1 (02:09:06):
Walked him.

Speaker 3 (02:09:08):
Another one on base, tying run to the plate. He

(02:09:29):
didn't even make it out there. He just he called.
He signaled to the bullpen before he even walked out there.
Get your jacket, kid.

Speaker 1 (02:09:44):
You're not coming back, Rawley Eastwick.

Speaker 3 (02:09:51):
Oh he's not even taking the cart.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
Yep. He's gonna run in young, you know, viril strung
like a bull.

Speaker 3 (02:10:01):
Get the Timmy trumpets playing.

Speaker 1 (02:10:08):
Not in the seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
Yeah, no, no, no walk up music good, no walk
up music for the batters either, good? You don't want
any music?

Speaker 1 (02:10:17):
Well, they have the organ m.

Speaker 3 (02:10:22):
Just hitting one of those Dan Dan ain't ain't ding
ding ding ding.

Speaker 1 (02:10:26):
I don't want to hear Pink Pony Club at a
baseball game.

Speaker 3 (02:10:32):
Jade Dog's not about the Anthony Rizzo bad blood Taylor Swift, Well.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
I guess I said before, the only reason why Rizzo
had because he was he was lusting after Taylor so
any he couldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Yeah, TK got her, no outs.

Speaker 1 (02:10:56):
Rawley Eastwick.

Speaker 3 (02:10:57):
What a name that you talking about baseball names? That's
a baseball name. Dude's first name is Raley r A
W l Y, not rolly, whereas Rally Fingers was r
O L L I E.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:11:20):
I bet Bench pretty much could manage this game, Like,
I bet like the the manager probably trusts him so much, yes,
like as such an established catcher. Ben Yeah, like he
probably walks out that like when they changed pitchers. I
saw them like chopping it up on the mound. And
it's like, I bet, I bet Bench has a better

(02:11:40):
connection with the manager than anyone else on the team
just because like as a as a catcher, you kind
of have to, like you see everything, you have to
manage the game yourself. You're calling the pitches essentially.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
Like because you're it's being relayed to you by the
manager and then you make the decision.

Speaker 3 (02:11:55):
It's crazy how pitchcoms are part of the game now too,
because back in the day, it was like a twelve
signal call from the pitcher or from the manager to
get like one pitch and it'd be like ear lobe,
ear lobe, nose, nose, eyebrow, eyebrow, ear lobe, ear lobe
is a fastball, and then or sometimes they'd give a
signal to the first base coach. First base coach gives

(02:12:15):
a signal to the pitcher picture or like second basement
or something like. It's just so many signals that they
used to do, and nowadays it's like they still do it,
but not not nearly as much. It's like it's a
lot toned down, a lot more toned down, especially because
of you know, signal stealing and stuff like that in games.

Speaker 1 (02:12:33):
Dewey Evans at the Dish. Dowe Evans has been on
these airwaves as well.

Speaker 3 (02:12:36):
He's been he's been crushing it in this game. He
was going for it. Come on, Dwight. It's a good
thing Len's on second already. Full ball that that back injury.

(02:13:01):
I heard a funny saying recently, you never used to
have a bad back. It doesn't get better, you.

Speaker 1 (02:13:09):
Know what I mean. Catch us up with you.

Speaker 3 (02:13:11):
Yeah, when you get a back injury like that, it
doesn't just go away, and it makes the rest of
your body hurt. So it's like, good thing Evans is
on second. If they can get a he doesn't need
like a a jump like if he was on first,
he's probably not making it home. But if they hit
something into the outfield ear, they can probably drive you know,
Linen from second. Despite the bad back. Be nice if

(02:13:39):
Evans could just hit a home run, just tie it
up in one shot, I'd be cool with that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:45):
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
Yeah, four straight foul balls for Eavans. The cameras are
really good. I can't get over it for seventy five. Yeah,
the quality is incredible. And it's like when I watch
nesson replay these on like their broadcast or whatever, it

(02:14:30):
always looks like the worst, Like it looks like it's
in one or something like what it is. It's in
zero seventy two. It's it's not seven twenty p it's
zero seventy two digital. Yeah, the lower they got it
running through like a VCR still at nesson.

Speaker 1 (02:14:50):
Struck them out. They got tapes. No, well back then
they had tapes. Yeah, yeah, that one out.

Speaker 3 (02:15:08):
That is one out. They still have two in scoring
or they have one in scoring position. There's Rick Burlson,
Barlson the tying run at the plate.

Speaker 1 (02:15:20):
There's Bernie Carbo on deck. He's gonna pinch it if
he gets on. So and this is like.

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
This is the season, Yeah, pretty much, this.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
Is Cincinnati leads three games to two. Yeah, this is
there is no tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (02:15:43):
Yep, two down, Burlson can't get it done, Nope, two down.
They're gonna leave men on again.

Speaker 1 (02:15:52):
Burlson. That bat, as I said, get a look at that,
Get a look at that, but not the at bat
his bat. Bernie Carbo one time Cincinnati read.

Speaker 3 (02:16:05):
That's right, drafted before bench hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:16:12):
Had drug issues. They essentially gave up on him.

Speaker 3 (02:16:15):
Though, come on, acting like I don't know what's going
to happen. Still excited. I want the red Sox to.
I want to see them do something. Come on, no

(02:16:38):
sponsors on in Fenway looks crazy. The digital scoreboard also
looks weird, like the lit up scoreboard. They don't have
that anymore either, mm hmm. Like the lights on the
scoreboard out and out in the outfield, those aren't there either,
they're they obviously have the jumbo tron now, or like
the big screen.

Speaker 1 (02:16:58):
The advancements in.

Speaker 3 (02:17:00):
Technology in general. Yeah, and I always like to I
don't know, maybe it's just me, but I like to
wonder too, like what Boston looked like outside of the
stadium here, Like I wonder what people did after the game,
like doing to cheers. Sometimes you've won a goo boy

(02:17:28):
meets beer boy drinks beer. The role of the boy
played by me ooh big hack.

Speaker 1 (02:17:39):
Who is this?

Speaker 3 (02:17:40):
Cabo?

Speaker 1 (02:17:40):
No Carbo's Bernie Carbo Carbo two snake eyes two two
and two two's everywhere? You got two on and two out.
Whoa m that's Tony Kubeck. So he's got that harsh,

(02:18:11):
harsh midwestern Milwaukee accent. So yes, I'm not even gonna
try to imitate it.

Speaker 3 (02:18:19):
I was waiting for it. Gribeau h m hm hm
hm he did what? Oh it did bench was about

(02:18:40):
to grab that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:42):
He doesn't swing at that. That's probably strike three.

Speaker 3 (02:18:44):
Yeah, barely got that to it. Like, last second, why
are these umpires wearing like black and the one first
basement umpires wearing red?

Speaker 1 (02:18:56):
And guess what pinchhit Bernie Carbo did that?

Speaker 3 (02:19:03):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:19:03):
Yeah, wow, Yeah, they're back in it all of a sudden.

Speaker 3 (02:19:13):
Wow. Tie game Game six seventy five World Series pinch hit. Yeah.
You want to talk about feeling like on top of
the world, Like sometimes we forget that these athletes are humans.
I don't that That guy probably left the stadium even

(02:19:36):
it didn't matter if they won or lost or whatever.
That was probably at the at the moment, that's probably
the greatest feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:19:42):
He hit that home running not for Raley Eastwick. It
wasn't Oh no, he had a lead. He had a
three run lead. We're tied up now was it eleven
eighteen at night? Yeah, so you're not going anywhere. Grab
a snicker? Yeah, Sit tight, sit tight, You're not going anywhere.
You got a ball game? Now?

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
How much were tickets back then? I'll find out World
Series tickets were probably like five bucks back then, Cecil Cooper,
oh for four at the.

Speaker 3 (02:20:26):
Dish, Thanks AI, You cannot purchase a valid ticket to
the nineteen seventy five World Series Game six because it
has already occurred.

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
I know we're watching it. You're listening to it here
on the Pulse podcast network right there. Cecil Coolberg just struck.
That's it. So if Bernie Carbo doesn't.

Speaker 3 (02:20:55):
Do that, it could have been pretty much game yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:21:00):
Six six now hitting into the ninth inning.

Speaker 3 (02:21:13):
Tickets for the nineteen seventy five World Series likely cost
a few dollars. Uh Apparently it says you could reserve
seats for three dollars and fifty cents, and box seats
wereth five dollars and fifty cents inteen in the seventies roughly.

(02:21:34):
And then someone else said that they paid twelve dollars
and fifty cents for a ticket to the nineteen seventy
five World Series. How much twelve dollars fifty cents. You
can't go to a regular season game between the White
Sox and the Rockies for twelve dollars and fifty cents.
That's that's crazy. You don't say, Dick Stockton a little

(02:22:02):
foreboding right, there is that eg No, no, when did
he play for.

Speaker 1 (02:22:12):
Late seventies and then his last year in nineteen ninety
eight he played for the Red Sox. His first team
was it Cleveland? Yeah, he threw threw a no hitter
back when he was a starter. Yes, yeah, Joe Morgan
at the dish. But then he was stepping out with
Rick Manning's wife, and Rick Manning was stepping out stepping
out with his wife, so it kind of became a
little you know, oh, this is the seventies.

Speaker 3 (02:22:35):
Yeah, like how you were started stepping out.

Speaker 1 (02:22:46):
Well, they did call them the free swing and a's so.

Speaker 3 (02:22:52):
They had the key to victory Morgan, What did they
say's five for twenty one? I think, yeah, m hm.

Speaker 1 (02:23:08):
So you're talking about the umpires, you said why, yeah, why.

Speaker 3 (02:23:11):
Is the first basement in red and the rest are
in black?

Speaker 1 (02:23:13):
Do you know? I think it was just a differentiate
like which pump was wish, who had the who was
the lead umpire and who was almost like a white hat,
and yeah, who's the lead official? Because the crew gets off,
you know, the crew gets announced as to who's the you.

Speaker 3 (02:23:30):
Know, they got yeahs out at first.

Speaker 1 (02:23:50):
Now, yep, they've moved. They've moved, yes, to first base.

Speaker 3 (02:23:59):
Called the ball doesn't matter. Johnny Bench, big red mean
Johnny Bench hitting with one hand. See Bench wasn't But

(02:24:26):
what was Bench's batting numbers? Because he wasn't like a
crazy like batter from what I remember or from what
I've been Well, he did hit three hundred home runs,
So that's good for a catcher. Yeah, that's good for
a catcher. I just know that his defense, like because
he doesn't have two thousand hits or he doesn't have

(02:24:48):
three thousand hits or or five hundred home runs. Nice.
And his career batting average was two sixty seven. Yeah,
he didn't have a he didn't bat three hundred on
his career, but it was he was a defensive stalwart.

Speaker 1 (02:25:06):
Yeah. And I believe he did have an MVP pretty
sure he had. How many times? Did he was the MVP?

Speaker 3 (02:25:13):
Two times?

Speaker 1 (02:25:14):
Two time MVP, Yeah, two time NL MVP Tony Perez
at the dish.

Speaker 3 (02:25:21):
He was also a Rookie of the Year and a
ten time Gold Glover. The Reds top of the ninth
they're kind of pressing now, yeah, well now it's they're

(02:25:43):
like stressed. They had a safe lead, and now it's gone.

Speaker 1 (02:25:49):
It is. Yes, it's going to get under it.

Speaker 3 (02:25:51):
Boom yep, and we're going to the bottom of the
nine and.

Speaker 1 (02:25:54):
Two putouts in the inning at first base.

Speaker 3 (02:25:57):
It's about to say he's killing it.

Speaker 1 (02:26:00):
Ninth inning, all tied up at six, Game six of
the nineteen seventy five World Series, the Boston Red Sox
hosting the Cincinnati Reds. Since he was a three two lead.

Speaker 3 (02:26:11):
This kuywalking through the crowd. Big Red machine has power failure.
That's funny. Doyle, Ystremsky, Fisk Lynn, those are your next
four batters?

Speaker 1 (02:26:25):
Well, bas you know, back then they would only show
well then as now they show due up only three. Yeah, yeah,
so showing.

Speaker 3 (02:26:32):
Four, yeah, it doesn't make sense because all three of
them could get out and you don't see the fourth guy.
There's no point showing them the fourth plus I don't
even know what the term is for fourth like because
it's like on deck yep in the hole in the hole? Ye,
what's after that du up? Is it?

Speaker 1 (02:26:54):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:26:56):
Later on next episode something like that. Doyle's been pretty
good today too.

Speaker 1 (02:27:13):
Hm. The fact that they're keeping Raley Eastwick still in
after that meltdown.

Speaker 3 (02:27:26):
Well, the fact that they pulled their starter so quickly
after what he did, and then you're gonna let east
Wick melt down in the end of the game. When
don't you think that the end of the game is
more important than the beginning of the game.

Speaker 1 (02:27:40):
Should Borbone have stayed in.

Speaker 3 (02:27:44):
I don't know about that because it maybe I don't know.
They're gonna give Doyle to walk.

Speaker 1 (02:27:51):
He walked them, He walked them. Yes, the man they
call yeahs.

Speaker 3 (02:28:10):
You want to know the most irritating thing in the
past like ten years with baseball, what's that? The fact
that the Red Sox didn't get Mike Yastremski, the fact
that he doesn't play in Boston is the most irritating
thing in the world. As a Red Sox fan, I
wanted Yastremsky sla And he also isn't the most incredible

(02:28:32):
player I'm not going to see.

Speaker 1 (02:28:34):
He's not his granddad, no, but I still would have
liked him I met just because he's his granddad played there.

Speaker 3 (02:28:41):
Well, his career is not over yet, no, but I
know he's in Kansas City now, Okay. I just feel
like it's never gonna happen. We don't really need outfielders
in Boston at this point, they yeah, mhm, down to.

Speaker 1 (02:29:05):
The wire.

Speaker 3 (02:29:10):
Bottom of the ninth Bassehet Griffy with an arm, So
you got runners. What is it sixty feet? What's the
ninety ninety feet feet? Ninety feet from home plate?

Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
Sparky Anderson is just just he's getting his steps in.

Speaker 3 (02:29:56):
Yeah, it's gonna be a it's gonna be a mote
from the dugout to the mound. Sparky, See, don't get

(02:30:22):
too excited. You thought Fisk was gonna you thought this
might be the time.

Speaker 1 (02:30:27):
No, no, no, no, no, That's why I said, grab
a snickers. You're not going anywhere there. It is the
pulp meet me again. Why didn't the Red You want
to look that up, But why didn't the Red Sox

(02:30:48):
keep their red hat?

Speaker 3 (02:30:59):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (02:31:04):
Joe Garrett Giola was also famous for doing the dog
shows as the years went on. I like the like APC,
like Westminster Kettle Club. Yeah he's not with us anymore,
but yeah, doesn't say Will mcinnaney five and two of

(02:31:28):
the two point forty seven e RA. So it just
looks so effortless. Look at the way he's crouched too.

Speaker 3 (02:31:50):
Well, That's what I was. I was just thinking that
the first I wanted to say something earlier. Not a
knee saver in sight. This dude straight up? How did
he walk?

Speaker 1 (02:32:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:32:02):
Like I played catcher for like maybe five years when.

Speaker 1 (02:32:06):
I was younger as a child and didn't want to
do it anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:32:09):
My legs hurt. I'm thirty one and I feel like
I can't get out of bed every day. My legs
hurt so bad. And I also ski too, so that
doesn't help my knees. But it's like my knees hurt
all the time, and Johnny Bench is just living down there,
living in that position, like and I when I was
a kid, I could be a little more limber, like
stay down there for a little bit, but it's like

(02:32:30):
when you stand up, you're like, ah, my knees. He's like,
oh yeah, I feel like the tin man, like I
need wd forty.

Speaker 1 (02:32:39):
Creaky knees. Yeah, and again, Fisk rather a Bench is

(02:33:02):
pointing you to tell macnenny throw it to me. When
I tell you to go this way, you hold the
arm up there we go, throw it to me and
ball three one more two Hall of famers right there.
Carlton Fisk and Johnny Bench bases full of Boston Red Sox.

(02:33:29):
Here and the bottom of the ninth Game six of
the nineteen seventy five World Series. There's Freddy Lynn.

Speaker 3 (02:33:43):
Did it say he singled? And what homered? Did he
hit a homer? No? What did he hit earlier? What
did it say on the screen? I missed that.

Speaker 1 (02:33:56):
Foul?

Speaker 3 (02:33:59):
No? Wow? Man out by a mile? Yeah, it wasn't
even close. What a cannon? I want to tag by Bench?

Speaker 2 (02:34:21):
Whoop?

Speaker 1 (02:34:23):
God?

Speaker 3 (02:34:24):
Not even close? First off, awful slide by Doyle. That
was Foster, right, Yeah, Foster with a throw, Foster with
a cannon. Yeah, what is this slide?

Speaker 1 (02:34:38):
He got him right on like the rib.

Speaker 3 (02:34:40):
I mean he was out by he was out by
a mile?

Speaker 1 (02:34:42):
Yeah, did you see the way through back though? Yeah,
that's as far as you basically you can get your
arm before without snapping it. You're not gonna be calling
him Jody Foster anytime soon. Mhm, there's they haven't they haven't.
They haven't named a reason, have they?

Speaker 3 (02:35:05):
No? I'm looking. I found an article, but I'm trying
to read.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
Donny Doyle is tagging up from third right.

Speaker 3 (02:35:16):
Paul goes whizzing by him.

Speaker 1 (02:35:18):
And then I mean he's just I'm trying to dive into.

Speaker 3 (02:35:23):
It, That's what I'm saying. Like maybe if he's slitty,
might have had a chance, but the dive literally like
he almost fell into Bench. Yes, you know what I mean,
Like Bench didn't have to make a great tag because
he was right there. It was a good throw too,
don't get me wrong. A lot of the time when
you're getting that, like you know, if you're not hitting
the cutoff guy, if you're not hitting the cut off guy,

(02:35:45):
a lot of the times it'll.

Speaker 1 (02:35:48):
You'll three go at the dish, you throw off line
kind of you have a chance to throw off line.
Rico Petrocelli seven for twenty two in the World Series.

Speaker 3 (02:36:04):
Wow, they're gonna get out of it. Wow.

Speaker 1 (02:36:10):
Pete Rose drops the ball right in the pitcher's mound.
Sometimes he would spike it.

Speaker 3 (02:36:20):
Game six, seventy five World Series, fiftieth Anniversary Extra innings,
fifty years.

Speaker 1 (02:36:26):
Ago today today, Yeah, bonus baseball in Boston.

Speaker 3 (02:36:37):
I mean, it's he should have gone. I just I
don't know what you do there. He had to go, Like,
you can't leave him at third in that situation.

Speaker 1 (02:36:47):
If you hit it farther then you have a better chance.

Speaker 3 (02:36:50):
I mean, if you hit it further, then it's like
you guarantee that it's a chance, like you if it's
any if it's five feet back, he's made in that,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (02:37:15):
George Foster, Yeah, you're not calling them, Jody Pale.

Speaker 3 (02:37:26):
I beat the Reds with some fava beans Claris.

Speaker 1 (02:37:31):
I was gonna say, please, don't do that. And a
nice canty you have that in London or no?

Speaker 4 (02:37:40):
What can.

Speaker 3 (02:37:42):
I did have caviar at that dinner that I almost
threw up at caviar, so it was wicked good, but
they gave us too much.

Speaker 1 (02:37:49):
I can't do it. I can't. I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (02:37:52):
I used to hate fancy food, but my wife got
me really into it, and now now I'm all about
fancy food, like Shiba, did you? I used to tell
people when I first met Aaron, she has a Gordon
Ramsey palette. I have a kid cuisine palate.

Speaker 1 (02:38:08):
You didn't, Chiba? Did you.

Speaker 3 (02:38:11):
Say? Oh? No? I had a You know what they
have in Europe? A lot lagoons? Yeah, lots of lagoons, Yeah,
like a ton those and uh, what is it? There's

(02:38:32):
something else I can't think of give me a second.

Speaker 1 (02:38:35):
I had a lot of wine when I was in
You're not really much of a wine guy now. But
in France, it's like the concept she owned the dish
oh for four of this game so far.

Speaker 3 (02:38:43):
Not It's like doesn't matter where, what time of day,
it's like pretty much drinking wine all the time. In France.
They told us they're like, if you're there's no drinking
age in France, Like, if you're like twelve years old,
you could probably just get a glass of wine and
have a glass of wine. They probably do, but they
said that like if you're twelve, you can't buy a

(02:39:03):
bottle of whisky. You know, like they will sell you
a bottle of whiskey. But if you're at dinner and
you're a twelve year old, you could be like, I'll
have a glass of wine.

Speaker 1 (02:39:10):
You're like, okay, bottle of red, bottle of wine.

Speaker 3 (02:39:17):
There was one night, the final night that we were
with our group before we went to Disneyland, and the
waitress came by and she was like blanc our rouge,
which is like white or red, and she's like blanc
rouge and I like white wine. I like sweet wines
and stuff like that. I was like, oh, take glass
of white. Gives me glass of white wine. We had

(02:39:40):
like some steak tartar like some other stuff for our
like appetizers. I had like maybe two SIPs of my wine.
Not a big wine guy, correct, I like, I like whiskey.

Speaker 1 (02:39:51):
Yes, if I'm or this would have been this would
have been down my alley.

Speaker 3 (02:39:54):
I am a big wine guy.

Speaker 1 (02:39:55):
Yeah, a French descent, yeah, I would hope.

Speaker 4 (02:39:58):
So.

Speaker 3 (02:39:58):
I mean, don't get me wrong, I drank a lot
of wine while I was there, just because it's a
lot easier to get. Yes, you know it's and it's
good like pair dud. I'd like the type of wine
I went to. Here we go, I'm getting. I'm getting
a bunch of stories blended together now, but.

Speaker 1 (02:40:13):
An amalgamation of stories.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Basically. She came back and asked me like five seconds
later if I wanted whiter red, and I was like, lady,
I've had one sip of this glass of wine. And
then she did it like five minutes later again she
was like whiter red, and I was like, lady, I
still have had like two SIPs of this wine. Let
me let me enjoy my glass of wine. But uh,
We went out to a restaurant while we were in
Europe too, and we were eating on the sidewalk like

(02:40:36):
you do in Paris, and uh, we're eating on the
sidewalk and the waiter comes up. We're eating with like
a couple from our group. It was me and my
wife and then a couple of our friends and we're
eating on the sidewalk and the wad waiter comes up and.

Speaker 1 (02:40:52):
They or they are there's are Geronimo Homeward in the
eighth inning. He's now at the dish for the reds.

Speaker 3 (02:40:56):
The our friends order first, and their wine drinker they're
from like wine country in Michigan, like they drink like yes,
they drink like wine all the time. So they order
wine first. And the waiter looks at me and I go,
I don't see any moscato on this on this menu,
do you guys have moscato? And for real wine drinkers mescados.

(02:41:19):
It's it's an American thing. Yeah, that's not getting that
in Europe. The waiter was like, moscato. Stend. I was like,
I'll take the chardonay. Never mind, ignore me, just give
me whatever chardonnay you've got. Had me had me cracking up.
So don't order mescato in France. No, they'll they'll look

(02:41:43):
at you with three heads.

Speaker 1 (02:41:48):
Oh I was close, yep, like a racehorse, a nervous racehorse.
Dick Stockton to the NFL on Fox, as I'd mentioned
as well, So in the nineties into the two thousand.

(02:42:10):
So surprised you don't You didn't, You didn't know who
Dick Stockton is. So okay, well you know Don Crickey
or no, No, I'm sure I'm sure you've heard Don
Cricky's voice because he yeah, he used to do Notre
Dame football and I think he called the BC. Uh yeah, okay, yeah,
I believe he.

Speaker 3 (02:42:30):
Did, so I probably recognized his voice, just don't know
the names.

Speaker 1 (02:42:33):
When we do future editions of the playback during the
playoffs in the NFL during the NDBC days of the eighties,
you're gonna hear Don Crickey. You're gonna hear Don Crickey
lost his wife Molly last year. Unfortunately, by the way,
in twenty twenty four. Yeah. So, in fact, there was

(02:42:57):
a time that Don Crickey was doing a Patriots preseason
games on TV just because he's from well he's from
Jersey originally, but yeah, he's he would be in demand.
And again he went to Notre Dame, same as regious
regious Phil. Yeah, you probably can't do that today. Just

(02:43:27):
start kicking the dirt around. Make sure that it's you know,
in your path or to your preference.

Speaker 3 (02:43:44):
Oh my gosh, get a strike, turn two, do something.

Speaker 1 (02:44:02):
Stuck in at one time married to Leslie Visser, Monday
Night Football, Fame, Sideline and other sidelines as well.

Speaker 3 (02:44:12):
He is, He's just not gonna let him go at
first base. He's just obsessed picking off another thing to
look at the doubles, the double boxing, double box of
NBC innovative in that regard to you would see what's
going on at first base and then from pitcher from
mound to plate, because he's going that's why they did

(02:44:33):
it safe, did he yel geronimo.

Speaker 1 (02:44:42):
Ya, that's a good jump. He's gonna say it ready.

Speaker 3 (02:44:49):
I don't know the throw was high, good transition there
from Fisk, but yeah, it's a high throw.

Speaker 1 (02:45:03):
Remember Fisk got into a fight with uh Thurman Munson.

Speaker 3 (02:45:07):
I don't know if I knew that Yankees red Sox,
I never saw that split into and they start like
punching each other, catcher versus catcher. You know, that's funny.
That's one thing that I never really got to witness.
I mean a little bit, but they don't. You don't
see people truck through the catcher anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:45:26):
You can't, Yeah, which I'm okay with that. Yeah, that
used to be brute, like the Buster Posy rule.

Speaker 3 (02:45:33):
You'd see you'd see some you'd see some people coming
down the third baseline just they'd be like even if
they caught, like they'd round third, Like they'd be rounding
third and the ball would get home and they'd be like,
screw it, I'm just gonna charge him. Anyways, just ninety
feet full sprint, run him over, just a mac truck,

(02:45:56):
and the catcher is supposed to just stand there and
be like, I'm going to tag you. And at bat
that feels like a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (02:46:15):
Because it probably is. Some at bats. Some baseball players
don't have a career this long. I told you to
grab a snickers. You're not going anywhere. You're one of these.

Speaker 3 (02:46:41):
Will somebody do something and let's get some action going.

Speaker 1 (02:46:45):
That's why he's you're a football guy. I know action action.
We want action. A C t Iom Well, that's.

Speaker 3 (02:46:52):
Why I think I think baseball the rule changes they've
made in recent years, I'm cool with pretty much all
of them, just because it's it's all about trying to
increase the pace of the game.

Speaker 1 (02:47:03):
Well, again, the pace of the game back in the
seventies was actually up until this point, it's been pretty good.

Speaker 3 (02:47:07):
Yes, it just they literally hit here and he's picked
off the first the guy at first base like five times,
you know, and and that and that slows down the game.
The pickoffs were really like, what's slow down the game?

Speaker 1 (02:47:19):
I think that rule that's Dick Drago.

Speaker 3 (02:47:21):
I think that rule of having only two pickoffs allowed
then it's a bock on the third attempt if you
don't get him, like that new rule. I think that's.

Speaker 1 (02:47:34):
Probably one of Dick Drago. That's what is.

Speaker 3 (02:47:35):
Yeah, that's probably one of the best.

Speaker 1 (02:47:37):
Not Drago, Dick Drego.

Speaker 3 (02:47:39):
That's one of the best rules they've implied in the
past couple or implemented in the past couple of years,
is having the pickoff rule, because it's like, bro, just
stop picking him off. You know he's going to steal
pitch out right, Like, you know he's going to steal
Just just pitch out to.

Speaker 1 (02:47:55):
Your point you were talking about Fenway. Looks like that
the the center part right.

Speaker 3 (02:48:00):
Yeah, yeah, center field.

Speaker 1 (02:48:00):
It looks a lot. You're I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (02:48:02):
I think you're on the angle or the shape of
the triangles.

Speaker 1 (02:48:05):
Different, looks a lot, a little different, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:48:07):
Because normally, well there's fans out there now, but like
that batter's eye normally where it is that like they
have the black like seat covers during day games or
something for the batter's eye.

Speaker 1 (02:48:17):
And look at look at the look at the backstop.

Speaker 3 (02:48:20):
No brick, Yeah, I know that also is something I
wanted to mention just because it looks taller too. But
I think it's taller because it's not the brick wall.

Speaker 1 (02:48:29):
Well they did right, they removed the padding the padding
and put the kind of the brick right. Yeah. Johnson Drego.

Speaker 3 (02:48:44):
Probably laboring to get through this one at bat, but
I don't know. He's been sticking with his pictures for
mostly like most of the game.

Speaker 1 (02:48:53):
Joe Garrett Joel is saying that the Tonight Joe Johnny
Carson is not going to be seen because this game
so alright, Johnny ed ed hello The Tonight Show starring
Johnny Carson. That's what it was. It wasn't the Tonight Show.
It was the Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson, as opposed

(02:49:14):
to now where it's the Tonight Show with Jimmy with
Jimmy Fallon.

Speaker 3 (02:49:19):
Now here's Jimmy fun.

Speaker 1 (02:49:29):
Dan Dreeson first at bat in the World Series. Love
those side mareenes again. This is a nineteen seventies game, folks.

Speaker 3 (02:49:40):
All it was was Big Red Machine and Disco.

Speaker 1 (02:49:45):
Disco demolition. I had at Old Kimisky Park blow up
those records because you can't like Kiss and Donna Summer.

Speaker 3 (02:49:59):
You cannot. It's impossible.

Speaker 1 (02:50:01):
It's impossible. You cannot. You will be judged harshly by society.
Don't blow up the Kiss records.

Speaker 3 (02:50:12):
Detroit Rock City.

Speaker 1 (02:50:17):
Yeah, Dick Dragos stole in the game. Not if he
keeps making throws like that, though.

Speaker 3 (02:50:23):
I think they're I think they're trying to pitch out
essentially two outs here. All he's got to do focus
on the bat. That's what I always say.

Speaker 1 (02:50:33):
Dick Drago doesn't have his mustache anymore.

Speaker 3 (02:50:35):
You got two outs. Don't even worry about the runner,
just worry about getting this guy out exactly. Give him. Yeah,
give him a challenge, pitch, give him something to hit.

Speaker 1 (02:50:51):
Carbo made the catch.

Speaker 3 (02:50:52):
Thank goodness he did, because that would have been fair. Yes,
been a fair ball. Yeah, extra innings going to the
bottom of the tenth Who made that catch, Carbo?

Speaker 1 (02:51:08):
Yeah, Bernie Carbo made the catch because yeah, that would
have dropped right in.

Speaker 3 (02:51:13):
Yeah. And the other two guys that were backing him up,
like at the guy bottom.

Speaker 1 (02:51:17):
Of the tenth inning in Boston nineteen seventy five World Series,
again fifty years ago today, in nineteen seventy five, this
game was being played at Fenway Park.

Speaker 3 (02:51:34):
Hey, shouts out to that guy, shouts out to the
guy making the play, and then like the fan that
almost reached out. That would have been embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (02:51:44):
That could have been a pre Bartman controversy, except, of course,
the whole Bartman situation was actually in the National League
Championship Series in two thousand and three between the Cubs
and the Marlins.

Speaker 3 (02:51:55):
That's one of the craziest sports moments ever.

Speaker 1 (02:51:57):
It is, No, it really is.

Speaker 3 (02:51:58):
Do you remember watching it live?

Speaker 1 (02:51:59):
Yeah? Yes, Pat Dark that's Pat Darcy eighth picture tonight
for Cincinnati. I do yeah. In fact, I would do
the uh well, was it. I would do the Harry
carry impersonation of it.

Speaker 3 (02:52:13):
Know, the Harry carry I don't know if I've seen that,
No me doing it?

Speaker 1 (02:52:17):
So yeah, yeah, Dewey Evans seven for twenty one in
this fall classic because Harry Carey had been deceased before then, Yes,
have another fall staff beer, look at camera angle right

(02:52:44):
now now.

Speaker 3 (02:52:46):
Whoa hm hmm, heads up? They still have Eastwick in there.

Speaker 1 (02:52:55):
No Pat Darcy. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, no
Pat Darcy forty four. Cincinnati's used a lot of pictures
tonight eight pits in one game.

Speaker 3 (02:53:09):
Yeah, yeah, but again it's game six and they're up
four to two, four to three to four? What am
I saying? Three to two? In the series, Rick Wise,
they're trying to They're they're using everyone because they're trying to.
Tonight's the last night essentially got him like them, They're

(02:53:29):
willing to use every every person that they have, every
every player that's in the dugout that's available. It's again,
it's it's a situation. Yeah, they're treating it winner go
home even though they have a game to give.

Speaker 1 (02:53:43):
You don't want to press too much, as you know. Yeah,
m hm.

Speaker 3 (02:53:50):
He almost ran out of the.

Speaker 1 (02:53:52):
Base run like the he almost stepped on he could
have stepped on Tony per him. There's Rick Burleson. Look
at that bat, Look at the bat, just a there's
Bernie Carbo. More heroics on the way.

Speaker 3 (02:54:21):
Won a womb red Sox and eleven HM.

Speaker 1 (02:54:29):
Not quite Lakers and later, however.

Speaker 3 (02:54:37):
Pat Darcy Mama, Darcy Hotty Toddy Quaker Wakers, Lakers of five.

Speaker 1 (02:54:51):
I don't know if the infield fly rule would have
been an effect at this time in the seventies. I don't.
I don't again, because you don't. You don't, you know,
you do know about the field fly role being in effect.

Speaker 3 (02:55:03):
Carbo getting as standing, Oh a.

Speaker 1 (02:55:05):
Clutch three run, Homer is gonna do that for you.
They're waving their penance back when you could do that back,
and then they don't have well you do, I got
you a penance of course that they were giving it away.
Between Cleveland and Boston. The Crochet Day, Crochet Day, and
it was the Fenway Greens. Did you run into the
uh the lady who's crocheting? No, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (02:55:28):
Every time that pitch Crochet didn't pitch so oh he
didn't pitch that day no, oh, it was just crochet day.

Speaker 1 (02:55:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:55:41):
How do they let her into the stadium with knitting needles?
With tools?

Speaker 1 (02:55:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:55:45):
Like she bet you know what you know? I mean
now I think she has to call ahead or like
and say it's probably Yeah, it's different now because.

Speaker 1 (02:55:55):
You can't just walk in. What are you going to
do with those?

Speaker 3 (02:55:58):
She I'm gonna sw nesson knows about the situation and
like the Red Sox and stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:56:04):
The organization as a whole.

Speaker 3 (02:56:05):
Yeah, yeah, so they probably now it's probably cool, But
at first it was probably like frowned upon. How'd you
get those in here?

Speaker 1 (02:56:12):
What are you doing? Yeah? I'm gon knit a sweater?
Really you're here? Why do you go? I thought you're
gonna watch a baseball game. I can while you nit
a sweater, you can multitask, Come on in.

Speaker 3 (02:56:25):
She probably just put her knitting needles in the in
the lunch box, since you can bring your own concessions in.
I can't believe that happened this year. It's not NASCAR,
just yeah, bring your own cooler. Screw it, going to
the beach, Carbo Whift and we're going another one.

Speaker 1 (02:56:50):
Off to the eleventh inning in Boston the nineteen seventy
five World Series. This is NBC's coverage, Cincinnati leaning three
games to two. Dick Stocked, Joe, Garrett Giola, and Tony Kubeck.

(02:57:12):
There's Pete Rose.

Speaker 3 (02:57:14):
Throw all the names on the wall. Throw a dart
wherever it lands. You got yourself a hero.

Speaker 1 (02:57:20):
Dynamite droppin' Joe, Dick Drago, Pete Rose. That's the matchup.

Speaker 3 (02:57:50):
See the contact of Pete Rose. How many home runs
is Pete Rose out?

Speaker 1 (02:57:57):
I think two hundred?

Speaker 3 (02:57:58):
Maybe he's not like a slugger. No, Pete Rose one

(02:58:20):
hundred and sixty crows, not even two hundred. Yeah, but
I mean does it matter? Also the fact that this
dude had fourteen thousand at bats, Yeah, fourteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:58:37):
Acracy fourteen that's crazy. That's a lot of years to play. Yeah,
that's a lot of baseball. Yeah, he had four thousand hits.

Speaker 3 (02:58:48):
That means he had what like, well, actually I'm an idiot.
His bad averages over three and it's like one out
of every three at bats. This man's pretty much getting
a hit. Garon teed h. I don't think there's a

(02:59:13):
more feared batter in my mind, Like I would you
rather if you're a pitcher. Yeah, would you rather Pete Rose?
Like would you rather go up against Pete Rose or
go up against like Barry Bonds.

Speaker 1 (02:59:23):
Bonds he would take you out, whereas Pete Rose. Let's say, look, okay,
we'll get a base hit, but Rose get he got
he got hit in the back.

Speaker 4 (02:59:36):
Oh hm hmm, there's the vovo Zela.

Speaker 1 (03:00:00):
What is this the World Cup?

Speaker 3 (03:00:02):
Yeah? What is going on?

Speaker 1 (03:00:13):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (03:00:14):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if it
hit him. He spun out of the way pretty quick.
I mean, he was pretty it's he got hit. Watch No,
I No, he didn't get hit. That's what I'm saying.
I don't think he did. And that's why I look.
Pete stays there and then throws the bat like if
you're hit by a pitch, you almost know instantly, like
you you know what I mean, Like if I hit

(03:00:36):
you with a pitch, you're gonna know. You're gonna throw
the bat right away and be like I'm moving to
first I got hit. Pete kind of stayed there like
he like he didn't know, like he was waiting for
the umpire to give him the signal. H Senior, honestly,

(03:01:11):
one of the biggest pieces of this this game so far.
For Cincinnati, he was one of their biggest offensive pieces
in the game. Mh ah, ball to yah yah yah.

(03:01:44):
The eleventh inning, the eleventh hour.

Speaker 1 (03:01:48):
The eleventh minute, the eleventh second.

Speaker 3 (03:01:53):
But what a bunn? What a throw?

Speaker 1 (03:01:57):
Fisk ball?

Speaker 3 (03:02:00):
Don't lie Pete Rose?

Speaker 1 (03:02:04):
Watch watch? Yeah good bunt though, yeah, straight down it
fair ball. Chis knew he had to get the lead runner.
Though he knew it. He knew he had to get
Pete Rose.

Speaker 3 (03:02:15):
What a throw? The umpire on one knee got him.
Joe Morgan, h yeah, just when you thought you could

(03:02:35):
take a breather.

Speaker 1 (03:02:37):
No, Nope.

Speaker 3 (03:02:41):
Even the even the worst players on this lineup, it's
like Geronimo Concepcion had a home run.

Speaker 1 (03:02:47):
I know.

Speaker 3 (03:02:49):
So I'm saying like even the worst players in this
lineup are still dominating.

Speaker 1 (03:02:54):
Or considered the worst. Special thanks to MLB Vault YouTube
channel for this game. Ball. You're not a Dick Drago fan,

(03:03:30):
are you?

Speaker 3 (03:03:31):
This dude's garbage. He played for the Socks for a
lot of years, A lot of years. I wonder why
it took him so long to win a World Series.
Couldn't get it done with this dude on the team
because he's just throwing it outside the zone all the time.
Ball ball, ball ball.

Speaker 1 (03:03:55):
There you go. Careful. Grandma's was the third base coach,

(03:04:35):
so you could get the get the instructions right essentially.
So that's split shot. Love that m got it. Evans

(03:05:16):
makes the catch.

Speaker 3 (03:05:17):
Wow, throws his way offline and doubled up. Yeah, because
Griffy didn't know. Yeah, Griffy didn't know what happened. He
thought it was Yeah. Watch this what a leap. Very

(03:05:38):
similar to that Lynn jump earlier in centerfield, Like same
type of movement that he had to make, Like, same
type of play.

Speaker 1 (03:05:50):
Off to the bottom of the eleventh in Boston, Game
six of the nineteen seventy five World Series. Cincinnati and Boston.
They're over here editing the graphic. They don't have it
dialed up yet because it's so late. They're like, do
up in bottom of the eleventh Miller, we got to
make sure he spelled carl Yastremsky correctly. If not.

Speaker 3 (03:06:35):
Right, Yeah for real. Yeah, he just got rid of it.
Don't blame him.

Speaker 1 (03:06:49):
Here's the catch again. As you see Evans, he knows again,
he knows the nooks and crannies of right field Fenway
Park because it's such a short yeah, short porch essentially,
Rick Miller, oh for one in the World Series so far,

(03:07:10):
pinch hitting here in the bottom of the eleventh of
the Red Sox and the Reds. Cincinnati can close it
out with the win because they've got the three games
to advantage.

Speaker 3 (03:07:22):
Yes, they're looking to wrap it up and go home.

Speaker 1 (03:07:26):
Bernie Carbo had other ideas.

Speaker 3 (03:07:28):
Yeah, said, hope you didn't have dinner plans.

Speaker 1 (03:07:34):
Dinner and a show, not tonight, Bud, not tonight. They're
preempting Johnny Carson. So this is a big deal, nop.
It bounced out of the stands. Know Zach Campbell there, Yeah, usually,

(03:08:00):
well Hample is usually like in center field anyway.

Speaker 3 (03:08:03):
Yeah, he usually he's in the outfield. He also walks
around the stadium and a creep.

Speaker 1 (03:08:07):
Yeah, sit down.

Speaker 3 (03:08:13):
Every time I see a ball fly over into that corner,
like the third base foul territory, I just think of
the pizza incident. Yeah, why couldn't have that happened to
Zach Hampbell Like a fresh hot slice just judgement comes
to pizza so good, Just.

Speaker 1 (03:08:32):
A nice, fresh hot piece of pizza, just burning Zach
Hampbell's did you ask for supreme? What now? Folks? I
don't often wish terrible, horrible things to happen unless they're deserved,
and Zach Hampbell has done more than his fair share

(03:08:55):
of deserving to not go get his just desserts or pizza.
It could be could be either one.

Speaker 3 (03:09:07):
We're not rude. He can have either.

Speaker 1 (03:09:17):
George Foster makes the catch, didn't move at all, made
it look easy.

Speaker 3 (03:09:31):
Rules.

Speaker 1 (03:09:31):
I was gonna say, thank you, Doyle. Johnny Bench just

(03:09:52):
crouched down for what four hours? Loveon innings.

Speaker 3 (03:09:58):
They're gonna need a they're gonn I need a dolly
to roll him out of here. Get this man a wheelchair.
My knees hurt watching him.

Speaker 1 (03:10:06):
I let alone him actually doing that. Yeah, catch all
eleven innings, catch twelve innings, catch fourteen innings. No, no,
no legs are shot him good.

Speaker 3 (03:10:18):
I bet I bet no one stokes a fire like
Johnny Bench, like. I bet he can crouch down in
front of a fire, stoke a fire and nice, you
know what I mean, He's gonna sitting in that position
kind of like.

Speaker 1 (03:10:33):
He had to, just like essentially, that could have been
a tough play. Well, that wasn't tough play in the
regard of yeah, that could have just like could have
spun on him. And the transferright of the glove.

Speaker 3 (03:10:43):
The transfer is always the most important.

Speaker 1 (03:10:45):
Yeah, because you got get the runner, because the runner
is running. It's not it ain't refrigerator Perry running at
first base, Okay, Yeah, and he's out by a country mile.
No love of this camera shot.

Speaker 3 (03:11:02):
Look at this Yeah, down that third baseline.

Speaker 1 (03:11:05):
See why I wanted to work for NBC when I
was in my twenties in the two thousands. I feel you.
Granted they lost baseball in two thousand when I was seventeen,
wouldn't get it back until twenty twenty six next year.
There's yeazz, just make something happen, yeas m You hear

(03:11:38):
the sound too of the ball of the myth, yeah
scooping it up. Essentially one ball to strikes, two outs
to yeas multi camera shots one, two, three, four. As
we roll into the twelfth inning, Rick wise, it would
be wise this game to end. Yeah, did you grab

(03:12:02):
a snickers yet?

Speaker 3 (03:12:04):
I forgot to hit the candy aisle, didn't hit the
concessions on my way in.

Speaker 1 (03:12:09):
I told you to do that. No, I know you're
not going anywhere. I know you got nothing to do.
I got you have no life.

Speaker 3 (03:12:16):
I'm getting a reservation, said, I'm getting a reservation at
the flogging after.

Speaker 1 (03:12:21):
This caskin flagging.

Speaker 3 (03:12:22):
Yeah, we're not in Boston, doesn't matter. I need to
I need to get in the Boston. You're going to.

Speaker 1 (03:12:29):
Teleport, like Mickey Mouse in the horror movie that he's in.
He teleports, he teleports Mickey's mouse trap. He teleports Mickey's
mouse trap. Johnny Bench. Look at those stats, one twenty five,
one oh four, one one ten RBI in last four seasons.
If that's not a Hall of Famer, then I don't know.

(03:12:51):
My name's not Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 3 (03:12:54):
I'm I guess you're he is a Hall of Famer
because your name's not Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 1 (03:12:59):
Mickey Yeah, and Mickey's mouse Trappy teleports. Mickey Mouse doesn't
even do that. How amazing.

Speaker 3 (03:13:08):
He's got some out of this world talent, this mouse.
Same with Johnny Bench.

Speaker 1 (03:13:16):
Well that's a murderous mouse.

Speaker 3 (03:13:24):
Wow, snag first pitch and they take down one of
the best players for the Reds.

Speaker 1 (03:13:34):
The catcher got out the catcher.

Speaker 3 (03:13:39):
Oh that's tough.

Speaker 1 (03:13:46):
It is a tough play.

Speaker 3 (03:13:47):
Yeah, that's a tough point.

Speaker 1 (03:13:49):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (03:13:50):
It looked like it was going out. And not only that,
that's tough. In little league, all right, you got how
many fans watching you? The way to the World the
World Series.

Speaker 1 (03:14:05):
Tony Perez won for five in this uh in this game? Well,
in little league, when there's more than like like ten
people there, it feels like the world is working.

Speaker 3 (03:14:14):
It's a lot of pressure, and only that it's like
it's it. I've never played a baseball game at night
because I didn't play baseball long enough to do.

Speaker 1 (03:14:23):
They have night games where you were No, they could
didn't have lights at the little league field or.

Speaker 3 (03:14:28):
Yeah, no, they didn't have I don't think. I don't
think they did.

Speaker 1 (03:14:33):
Because I never played at like I think they should
make that a constitutional amendment.

Speaker 3 (03:14:37):
Well they had like a they have what Robbie Millsfield,
but that we didn't play there when I was a kid,
Like it was we played at like the where the.

Speaker 1 (03:14:47):
Track is Nero Peachey Park.

Speaker 3 (03:14:50):
Yes, yeah, and there's I don't think there's You're surprised
I know some of the stuff, don't you. Well, no,
I figured you would because I know that you know baseball,
and even I figured you would even know like the
little league stuff, like I know that you know baseball
like better than most people.

Speaker 1 (03:15:04):
You don't know what I'm kidding.

Speaker 3 (03:15:07):
But they didn't have lights. So the thing is, like
catching that ball, it's easy to lose the ball in
the lights. Yes, Like that's why the saying is the
lights were too bright, you know for sell and so.

Speaker 1 (03:15:19):
Because you can started a little league when the kids
couldn't catch the ball. Yeah, it wasn't intentional, it's just
they're not used to it. That's a base hit.

Speaker 3 (03:15:40):
Perez is two for six, two for six, got six
at bats.

Speaker 1 (03:15:47):
Next stop Cooperstown with Carlton Fisk in the year two thousand.

Speaker 3 (03:15:54):
Is George Foster Side the hero for the Reds at
the moment? Yeah? The absolute hero. Yeah, I forgot. He
had the home run too. He had the rocket for
the arm as well. Yeah, that's what really is making
him the hero. But the home run too, the home

(03:16:16):
run too makes him like definitely the hero.

Speaker 1 (03:16:28):
Cincinnati Reds Boston Red Sox bonus baseball here in the
nineteen seventy five World Series, which is older than yours
truly and CJ as well, we were not alive when
this happened.

Speaker 3 (03:16:40):
Not even close. For me. This is closer to my
parents being born.

Speaker 1 (03:16:45):
I was going to say it's closer to ill acts
relatively relatively on my side.

Speaker 3 (03:16:52):
Relatively relatively, it's I mean, it's almost ten years before
you were born. A mind to say, it's like, yeah,
it's almost relatively closer to ten years than it is
five years.

Speaker 1 (03:17:05):
It's closer to me than it is you. Yes, pal, No,
there's yeas at first. There's Perez leading off first. Two
Hall of famers right there by the way. Mm hmm,
just missed yep, mhmm.

Speaker 3 (03:17:47):
Foster Lace is one for a hit. I'm never leaving here.

Speaker 1 (03:17:56):
Watch your head.

Speaker 3 (03:17:57):
We're going to be here forever. It's just going to be.
No one's doing anything. Red Sox are gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (03:18:12):
I think the recording tape has run out too. I
hope it hasn't. Dave Concepcion.

Speaker 3 (03:18:40):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (03:18:43):
Red's trying to add on more here. They have one out,
I believe so.

Speaker 3 (03:18:59):
Because Pete roses on or was that lasting. I don't
know if they have any outs or no. Yeah, fist
caught that pop up. Fist got out Johnny Bench yes,
with the first Thatcher got Catcher out, So I think
they have one out.

Speaker 1 (03:19:17):
Hall of Famer got Hall of Famer out. That stadium
no longer exists Riverfront, Yeah, which became Synergy Field.

Speaker 3 (03:19:32):
It's funny. There's a in MLB the show they have
minor league stadiums, but the minor league stadiums aren't real. Yeah,
they're like generic Lobster Cola Stadium. Yeah, there's like one
that's like All American Park, you know, it's like like
Great American Ball, Right, it's just generic names. But there's
one called I'm pretty sure it's like not Riverside Stadium.

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It's like Waterfront Stadium, or there might be. There might
be one called like Riverside or something left the de
check later.

Speaker 1 (03:20:12):
So Evans makes the catch. Rick Wise.

Speaker 3 (03:20:26):
These glasses on this is so seventies. The glasses on
the picture.

Speaker 1 (03:20:30):
You should see Kentaculvi's glasses when he played for the
Pittsburgh Pirates. They covered his entire like, yeah, he looked
like a science teacher. He's got he's got the he
looked like a math teacher.

Speaker 3 (03:20:41):
From those sixties, you know, those like sunglasses that go
over your glasses. Wear glasses his glasses were that big,
but they were just glasses like blinders essentially.

Speaker 1 (03:20:54):
Not peaky ones either. No peaky blinders.

Speaker 3 (03:21:21):
Victory rests have been just ye know who's who's warming
up for them? Pete Rose got to be out of options.
I feel like they threw thirty pictures in there tonight,
hashtags straight out of options. P w A pictures with attitude.

Speaker 1 (03:21:45):
Save them all. Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (03:21:55):
Interesting, Rick, why it looks like a science teacher. I'm saying,
mister science, dude's got a GPA of three point five or.

Speaker 1 (03:22:07):
Four point zero. True, like Jersey saying, see what I
did there, That's a good one. We very rarely do
stuff that's older than us, know what. There's appreciation to it,
you know. And this is the last time we're going

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to be doing something from nineteen seventy five. We're going
to be doing that Muhammad Ali Chuck Webner fight just
outside of Cleveland from nineteen seventy five, which was the
basis for Rocky. That was the idea that Stallone had
to make the template to make Rocky, to write the
script for Rocky to become Rocky Balboa. Not Frank Stallone,

(03:22:50):
by the way, thinks although Frank Stallone is is in
is in the movie Rocky. He's one of the he's
one of the singers. It's them from the corner. Get
a job, you bum, get a job. We used to remit.
I just wanted to.

Speaker 3 (03:23:07):
Try and fight and gave fight it fighting. I did
fight it. Tell me the kid fight.

Speaker 1 (03:23:13):
I don't think that was a strike, by.

Speaker 3 (03:23:15):
The way, I don't think so either.

Speaker 1 (03:23:18):
Bottom of the twelfth Here we go, tied at six.
The Reds and the Red Sox, nineteen seventy five, This
date four fifty years ago, not forty fifty years ago.
Game six of the nineteen seventy five World Series. Okay,
Pat Darcy stays in for Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (03:23:42):
Yeah, because they ain't got anybody else left. They've been
using everyone. They've used twenty pitchers tonight.

Speaker 1 (03:23:52):
Don Gullet hasn't. Maybe they want to use him for
Game seven if should have got there, or maybe they
want to use him.

Speaker 3 (03:24:01):
I thought he threw that at the picture. I was like, whoa, wha,
what what? What? What? What?

Speaker 1 (03:24:05):
What's Johnny ben?

Speaker 3 (03:24:06):
I was like, what do we do with Johnny?

Speaker 1 (03:24:11):
Does that bat look familiar?

Speaker 3 (03:24:15):
Isn't it? Ricos?

Speaker 4 (03:24:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (03:24:17):
Who is it? That's Rick Burlson's bat. That's right, that's
Rick Burlson's bat. Carlton Fisk leads off for the Boston
Red Sox in Game six, bottom of the twelfth of

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the nineteen seventy five World Series. Pat Dercy.

Speaker 3 (03:24:57):
Off the foul poll.

Speaker 1 (03:24:59):
That's it. Carlton Fisk, New Hampshire's own hits one of
the most iconic home runs in the history of the game,
and the Boston Red Sox all these fans on the
field course of Game seven, Yep, he was beating them away.

Speaker 3 (03:25:19):
I know the fans are These fans are surrounding Carlton Fisk.

Speaker 1 (03:25:23):
It's like, it's not your moment. It's the it's their moment.
It's not your moment.

Speaker 3 (03:25:29):
He's just trying to get to the dugout.

Speaker 1 (03:25:34):
Wow, how about that? Huh? Back when the Green Monster
had netting, not seats, netting, the Pride of Charles Town,

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New Hampshire siege. He's one of us, that's wild. He's
one of us. He's not like us, but he's one
of us. I thought it hit the fuck whdh there
it is? See it did hit a yeah, seven, six

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and twelve in twelve innings. The Boston Red Sox over
the Cincinnati Reds in Game six of the nineteen seventy
five World Series. What a game fourteen hits for Cincy,
ten for Boston. And there's a Game seven of the
Fall Classic nineteen seventy five, the Boston Red Sox Live

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another day to take on the big Red Machine, the
Cincinnati Reds from nineteen seventy five. And we want to
thank MLB Vault for the video on YouTube. And here's
the iconic shot.

Speaker 3 (03:27:10):
If it stays fair, home run, ready go, stay fair,
stay fair, stay fair, it stays fair, and there's nobody
leaping farther, leaping larger, larger, leaping larger or longer than
Carlton Fisk. I think his middle name was ern Or,
is Ernest Carlton Ernest Fisk, I'm pretty sure?

Speaker 1 (03:27:35):
How about that? Huh? I had to do was pay
twelve bucks for a ticket to get fifty twelve fifty
twelve fifty to get in.

Speaker 3 (03:27:44):
Probably some of the best twelve fifty that they spent.

Speaker 1 (03:27:53):
How about that?

Speaker 3 (03:27:53):
Huh? It's for real? Hum, we can appreciate your problem. Yeah,

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he's a little mobbed at the moment.

Speaker 1 (03:28:40):
Unreal nineteen seventy five.

Speaker 3 (03:28:43):
You're listening to the playback with Jay Dogg and CJ
on the Pulse podcast Network.

Speaker 1 (03:28:48):
Nineteen seventy five World Series Game six, one of the
most iconic games of all time and ending with one
of the more iconic I guess shots of all time essentially,
or not just shots for a home run, but that photo,
the photo, the camera, the whole thing, all of that
Game six, nineteen seventy five World Series, Boston Red Sox

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defeating the Cincinnati Reds. They would not win the series,
they would lose Game seven, and a lot of people
here's the thing about that, there are some people that
think that that was actually the clinching game of the
World Series, which it was not. It was to stay
alive for one more game only to lose.

Speaker 3 (03:29:26):
It's almost like the Bill Buckner incident.

Speaker 1 (03:29:29):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:29:30):
People forget that, But that's the Red Sox had another
game after them, and they blew that one too, exactly,
and people just put all the blame on Bill, which
he did miss. I mean the situation. Looking back at it,
he probably should have been taken out of the games.

Speaker 1 (03:29:45):
Yes, he should have. Dave Stapleton, for defensive purposes, was
the first baseman and it was a lot better fielding
first baseman than Buckner was at that time.

Speaker 3 (03:29:53):
Right, But regardless, the Red Sox still had a whole
nother game and.

Speaker 1 (03:29:56):
Correct they blew that one. They had a lead against
the Mets and they blew it.

Speaker 3 (03:30:00):
Yeah, and they came back in there.

Speaker 1 (03:30:01):
It's the Mets now that have a leading blow up.

Speaker 3 (03:30:03):
They came back in this one. But they also they
I don't know, they had a lead for a while.

Speaker 1 (03:30:09):
They like blew that. So it's the big Red machine
we're talking about. There's no lead a safe. You want
to know that many games over one hundred games, one
hundred and eight games, no lead is safe. Yes, if
you're winning that many. So the best bet Award we're
going to start off with that. And at some point
you are going to get one of those cheap little
casinos at poker head poker hat. That's right, a little

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you know, a bucky. If you were betting back then,
what would the money line would have looked like? You know,
the odds if how sure risky? This would have been? Right?

Speaker 3 (03:30:38):
So going back to seventy five, of course you couldn't
bet on baseball back then, so we had to uh.

Speaker 1 (03:30:44):
Rose did Yeah, we had to he was the World
Series MVP.

Speaker 3 (03:30:48):
By the way, we had to contact our sports bookie
from a bygone era.

Speaker 2 (03:30:52):
Me.

Speaker 3 (03:30:53):
Yes, I had to dive into the history. But they
all get the Delai and getting the time machine. Go
meet yourself in the diamond they give. So the the
Reds were obviously like one of the best teams in baseball.

Speaker 1 (03:31:05):
Yeah, so, big Red machine. This was the start, by
the way, they won the World Series the next year
as well against the Red Sox most hated foe, the Yankees,
the New York Yankees to repeat US champions.

Speaker 3 (03:31:14):
So the Reds were obviously big time favorites, but not
in this game, not on an elimination game like a
Game six. The Red Sox were actually the favorite because
they were at home minus one twenty in an elimination
game that would have gone to of course forced Game seven.
The Reds were plus one hundred on the money line,
and again Red Sox minus one twenty, the run line

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winner had to win by two runs. Essentially, that was
the run line and baseball it's a little different with
the spread. There's not really a spread, it's more of
a run line, so it's you're betting on one team
to win by two runs or not, and the Red
Sox were plus one fifty to win by two runs.
The Reds were minus one seventy, So the Reds kind

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of favor favored there, not on the money line, but
more favored to at least cover the spread to lose
by one run per se. Yeah, and then the total
runs over under was seven and a half, both of
those being minus one ten. YEP, I mean the Boston
run line, I feel like has to be the they

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won by two, right like they Yeah, what was the
final score? It was? The final score was what six
to three?

Speaker 1 (03:32:28):
I believe it was saying, Oh, let's see game six
the Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:32:32):
So I believe they won by two, So I think
the run line would have covered that seven to six.
Oh no it did not, So six to three? What
was I saying? Where am I? What am I talking about?

Speaker 1 (03:32:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:32:41):
They scored a whole bunch of runs in this game. Yeah,
I forgot that they the in twelve innings. Yeah, so
the run line doesn't cover the over under on total
points covers that's minus one ten. I guess technically that's
your best bet. YEP is just taking the total on
the over under. But if this was me I would

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have taken the Red Sox money line, probably maybe the
maybe the run line, just because I would have been
hoping for a two run win, maybe banking on them
going all out in this do or die situation? What
would have what would you have done going into this?
I know you're not a Red Sox fan, but say
you're at the game nineteen seventy five, current day, like
your your current age. You know we're not going to

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reverse you and make you a.

Speaker 1 (03:33:25):
Kid minus eight.

Speaker 3 (03:33:28):
So if you're if you're there today, what would you
have done? You know, making a bet Reds because again
the big Red machine, you clinch it at home. Oh, actually,
you know what I'm wrong? The best bet would have
been the Reds money line. Okay, no, it would have
been the Red Sox. That was right, It's still the
points total. Yes, I'm spacing out. The Red's money line

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would have been interesting you So you would have taken
the Reds money line. Yes, I would have taken the
Red Sox money line, which would have hit. But the
better bet, your best bet of his playback would have
been the total over under U hitting the over at
minus one time.

Speaker 1 (03:34:04):
Okay, worst athletic moment? What went terribly wrong. Was it
a choke, a collapse, or just playing bad luck? Raleigh
Eastwick had a lead and Bernie Carbo said, you know what,
let's tie this thing up in a clutch situation. Raleigh
Eastwick just totally unglued in that inning to allow the
Bernie Carbo pinch hit clutch three run homer yes, to

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tie the hit clutch three run home runs to tie
the game.

Speaker 3 (03:34:30):
My worst athletic moment, Yeah, I'm gonna pick Lynn going
into the wall because it was just like a brutal
he covers and again he Freddie Lynn.

Speaker 1 (03:34:39):
If you see some more highlights on the like he
covers the wall. Well, but again this is rookie year.

Speaker 3 (03:34:44):
Yeah, and it was a nasty like dive sort of
he like one as he jumped into it and slammed
like his back his head into the wall. Look pretty brutal.
I'm just gonna pick that as my worst athletic moment.
He does stay in the game. You know, it's a
surprising power to him because like I said before, you know, uh,
you never used to have a back injury.

Speaker 1 (03:35:05):
You always have a back injury.

Speaker 3 (03:35:06):
You know what I mean, Like it doesn't go away,
so good for him on staying in the game and
what did you choose? You chose the.

Speaker 1 (03:35:13):
Reliever, and you know, also very questionable calls from uh
Sparky Anderson making these switches. He couldn't keep a picture in.
I know, we pedro Borbone. He should have put page
he could have he should have kept Borbone.

Speaker 3 (03:35:27):
In like uh tiante like, yeah, he he stayed in
the game even though he gave up five runs and
they pulled their first picture in the first inning. The
first picture was out there for like two seconds. He
gave up two hits and it was or no, he
gave up the home run. Yeah, and then they pulled him.

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I mean, I guess giving up a home run in
the first inning in the World Series. But he had
high era too, so obviously they were just already on
like edge with him.

Speaker 1 (03:35:56):
Correct, they weren't. They were ready to just say, look,
go go in there, what you need to do. But
if you're not going to get it done, we're pulling it.

Speaker 3 (03:36:02):
They should have just pitched someone else, I guess, I mean.

Speaker 1 (03:36:05):
Maybe Raleigh Eastwick righteah, like play it.

Speaker 3 (03:36:09):
See. But the thing that I don't really know about
is back in the seventies, did they do bullpen games
where it's, oh, like that wasn't a thing, right, Like
nowadays we have, you know, a Red Sox fan nowadays,
like during the regular season you might see like Garrett
witlock open a game like and.

Speaker 1 (03:36:26):
Old Tampa Bay Rays really defined that in the late
two thousands or actually well twenty tens. They felt that
you did you a closer by committee, which the Red
Sox did back in the early two thousands, mid two
thousands because they couldn't find a closer up until they
had gotten Keith Folk and reverse the curse in two
thousand and four. Spend money novel concept, right anyway, Also

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you have the race openers. Yeah, which again.

Speaker 3 (03:36:54):
Eastwick if he was in today's MLB, probably a great opener,
great bullpen arm, maybe even five inning, four inning starter.
But back in back in that day, having I don't
I don't even remember who started for the Reds, not
east Wick, but having east Wick start for the Reds
probably would have been a little better for them. That starter.

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What a waste of time? Yeah, yeah it was, yeah,
it was, uh yeah, what a waste of time? Like
why go out for an inning just to bench him?
Just a waste of time? They should have had a
different picture in there, because he gives up three runs
and then he really has no confidence. You're just gonna

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get rid of him. You're just out of there. And
I don't know. I just thought that maybe east Wick's
meltdown is bad, but maybe Nolan's is worse. At the
beginning of the game. Yeah, he literally does nothing. I'm
gonna change my answer to Nolan.

Speaker 1 (03:37:52):
All right, okay, all right, so we go to the
peak's peak physical specimor. Here's the thing about baseball players
back then, they weren't They weren't really you know what
I mean. They were not Greek gods physiques like they
have today. In fact, there's probably a lot of players
that lift too much now in baseball, and that's why
they get hurt with all these injuries, or they have.

Speaker 3 (03:38:12):
Low ba's because they're swinging and missing. It's all about
the long ball.

Speaker 1 (03:38:16):
Yes, that's right. Who looked like the ultimate athlete physique, endurance, dominance.
I'm gonna go with both catchers. I'm gonna go with
Johnny Bench and Carlton Fisk because you got to squat
that many innings behind the plate and came back then
brutal yeah, so I'm going to say it was the
catch the Hall of Fame catching tandem duo of Johnny

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Bench and Carlton Fisk.

Speaker 3 (03:38:41):
Say you for me, I don't know. It's tough. I
feel like I kind of want to give it to.

Speaker 1 (03:38:49):
Louis. I feel like I smoked cigars.

Speaker 3 (03:38:53):
He had a dominating, like dominating outing though, like almost
peak at at the moment when he needed to be.
You know, even though he gives up what five runs
before he's pulled, he he's still pitched what like six innings,
seven innings, I think, you know, and that might be
the turning point in the game where the Red Sox

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are able to go to the bullpen later and they
don't have to go through as many arms and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (03:39:21):
So hard to be. The way I see it is
this Bench and Fisk are two hard hat, hard working
guys playing the most physically demanding position in the sport
of baseball from a bygone era. It wasn't any easier then.

Speaker 3 (03:39:33):
No I And you know what, I will give it
to Fisk and Bench. And plus I'm a catcher. I
love the catchers, you know. I'm all about supporting the
It's almost like I say it all the time. Catchers
to me are like tight ends in football. You know,
it's like a there should be a National Catcher's Day,
you know. I agree, the catchers are like a rare breed.
It's like being a goalie hockey. You know, you're almost

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like isolated from the rest of the team. Yeah, you know,
you you're just a different kind of human. And I
played goal the end catcher in hockey. Yeah, like I
played goalie hockey catcher in baseball.

Speaker 1 (03:40:04):
Best sports nickname? Who had the most legendary nickname? Is
it hilarious, perfectly fitting or all of the above? Charlie Hustle,
Pete Rose.

Speaker 3 (03:40:11):
Oooo, that's a good one. What do you think I
like that. I'll go with Charlie Hustle as well. I
was very excited to see Charlie or Pete Rose. You
saw him play finally in this Like I've seen highlights
and stuff, but to watch, like sit down and watch
a game with the greatest hitter of all time.

Speaker 1 (03:40:30):
You know, he's the greatest hitter. He's he has the
most hits.

Speaker 3 (03:40:33):
Of all times. He's yeah, he's one of the one
of the greatest hitters of all times.

Speaker 1 (03:40:36):
I think I think ted Williams is a better hitter. Okay,
so yeah, I'm not going to argue with that. I
like Teddy.

Speaker 3 (03:40:42):
I just think that Pete Rose forty two hundred hits.
He was hustling crazy again and he's playing third base
in this Yes, he's hustling on everything. He's hustling on
the run. He's hustling down the line because he knows
he could get a base hit when he got hit
by the pitch or not hit by pitch. Oh yeah,
when he yeah, yeah, he hustled the first Yeah. So

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Charlie Hustle, that's Pete Rose right there. That's funny.

Speaker 1 (03:41:05):
Yeah. No saungs for Joe Morgan or Johnny Bench or
Tony Perez. I'm name dropping here with all these guys
I like.

Speaker 3 (03:41:13):
I like Charlie Hustle, I like Pete Rose, but I
also like, I want to give an honorable mention to
El Louis.

Speaker 1 (03:41:22):
Okay, honorable mention to Yes.

Speaker 3 (03:41:24):
That's my honorable mention. I gotta go with Pete Rose
and Charlie Hustle.

Speaker 1 (03:41:28):
Mike Wark, who talked the talk best interviews, trash talk
or sound bites if it stays fair home run, and
that was Dick Stockton on the call with Joe Garrett
Giola and Tony Kubeck.

Speaker 3 (03:41:39):
So I was gonna say, Dick Stockton had to. He
won it for me. Has some good calls in there too,
I can't remember off the top of my head, but
just good, like good calls throughout the game, you know,
just a great job commentating and keeping it engaged and
entertaining throughout the entire time, regardless of the you know,

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the defensive game that was going on for a while.
It was really that home run by the Red Sox
early and then nothing for a good a good while
until Eltiante started to labor a little bit and gave
up some runs and stuff like that, which the big
Red machine you were gonna do. Yeah, yeah, it's only
a matter of time, yep.

Speaker 1 (03:42:19):
And it was. And again Tony Kubeck with his Milwaukee
Midwestern accent, you could you could really tell the way
he was talking. Yeah, you could tell he was a
Milwaukee boy right there, a good, good Midwestern boy. And
Joe Garrett Giola, you know, alongside Dick Stockton.

Speaker 3 (03:42:33):
Joe Garrett Giola.

Speaker 1 (03:42:35):
That a great name.

Speaker 3 (03:42:35):
It sounds like it's like a pro wrestler. It sounds
like a cured meat or a cheese.

Speaker 1 (03:42:40):
Yeah, he's gonna go to the Darian fireman. He's gonna
get out, Old Jacob.

Speaker 3 (03:42:43):
Take a pound of the Joe Garrett Giola, the Joe
Garrett Giola, the boars head of the Joel Garrett Giola.

Speaker 1 (03:42:49):
Some capacola, you know. Tony Kubeck's gonna be there to
join me, and Dick Stockton will be their toe.

Speaker 3 (03:42:54):
I'll take a pound of the Gabba gul to please.
If it stays found run, you have no idea what
it thinks to be at the time.

Speaker 1 (03:43:06):
Oh man, if it stays fair home run, there you go.
That was, of course, that's Howard Cosell that if ABC
had the broadcast, it would probably be that. If it's
of course he wasn't played by play, it would probably
be at that time, probably Keith maybe Keith Jackson Runner.
Oh my, now, of course, Dick Enberg. I'm doing all

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these broadcasters. So coolest moment, the absolute chillest, sickest moment
could be a celebration of walk off or icy stared out.
Come on now, Carlton Fisk with the ruddy I'm pantomiming, folks.
The If it stays fair home. He wants that baby
going fair. He wants that hitting the pole, and it does.

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That's why it's called Fisk's pole.

Speaker 3 (03:43:51):
That is again, this is the first time I'd seen
this whole game. I'd seen Fisk hit the home run before,
but the is the photo of him waving down the
line is one of the most iconic Red Sox photos
of all time. If you live in New England, there's
probably a ninety percent chance you've seen that photo before.

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It doesn't matter if you were born after the year
two thousand or nine.

Speaker 1 (03:44:15):
It's funny because he was inducted into the Baseball Hall
of Fame in the year two thousand with Tony Perez.

Speaker 3 (03:44:21):
Oh well, see it exactly. It doesn't matter if you
were like you could have been born after he was
inducted to the Hall of Fame. But I guarantee, if
you live in New England, there's a ninety percent chance
you probably have seen that photo. Someone has told you
the story. It's one of the most iconic moments in
Red Sox lore.

Speaker 1 (03:44:41):
And just base and base baseball lore. Now I showed
you not too long ago. As you know, NBC looks
like they're getting baseball back in twenty twenty six. Right, Yes,
I showed you that history of NBC the postseason, back
when they had that in nineteen ninety nine. Right, they
were showing NBC's era of great mo like the Willie
Mays catch against Cleveland in the nineteen fifty four World Series. Yes,

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Robinson's swinging of baseball, bet Don Larson's perfect game the
Yankees in Brooklyn. Right, Also Brooks Robinson uh going like that,
essentially turning one of the double met he was. You
couldn't get him out and he got you out. In
the nineteen seventy World Series. The next shot, it's the
stay fair with Fisk. Then it's the after that, it's

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the Mets scoring that run in eighty six.

Speaker 3 (03:45:29):
It's almost like not to cut you off. It's almost
like you One thing I love about baseball, though, A
good way to describe it that people don't really use
this metaphor to describe other sports, is you can't tell
the story of baseball without talking about Carlton Fisk's home run.

Speaker 1 (03:45:47):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (03:45:48):
Like, if you're telling the story of baseball, you can't
tell it without telling someone about It's like someone told
me this when Albert Poolhall's retired and I said, do
you think he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
The answer that the person gave me was, you can't
tell the story of baseball without talking about Aubert Poohles.
And essentially I feel the same way, you can't tell

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the story of baseball without talking about the legendary home
run from Carlton Fisk. It's it's easily the coolest moment
that this iconic, legendary sports moment. It's it's similar to
the Jordan like jump shot over the jazz like in
Game six, like starting basketball, something we've covered in and.

Speaker 1 (03:46:29):
One of the first editions of the playback. One of
the early editions was that Game six, which was also
on NBC. NBC has the NBA back this year as
the NBA is starting. And also the other shot they
had was Kirk Gibson when he hit the home run
on the on the gimp leg or like his like
when he's rounding when he does that, then they show
the Braves all celebrating in ninety five and then Levon

(03:46:50):
Hernandez some regular season game. I thought it would be
during the posts. Actually you no, it is during the
It was I think the first round against the Giants
in ninety seven, like going, let's go like that kind
of thing. So that so yes, for sure, Coolest Moment
Award the stay Fair shot. And remember, folks, when you
go to Fenway Park, you've got pesky pole and right
and then left it's Fisk's pole. That's why did it

(03:47:12):
age well? Looking back? Does it hold up any context
changes or does it feel cringey? Now if this doesn't
hold up, what does I think.

Speaker 3 (03:47:20):
I'm going to say yes, yeah, but I'm also going
to say no, just because I think that maybe I
don't want to say no, but I think that the
improvements they've made to baseball with the new rules, the
extra runner on.

Speaker 1 (03:47:33):
Base that wouldn't happen in the post season though.

Speaker 3 (03:47:35):
No I know, I just I'm saying, with the pitch
clock and things like that. I like the updates that
baseball has gotten to, like the bigger bags making it
easier to steal. Not that anyone had trouble stealing.

Speaker 1 (03:47:49):
Past those days.

Speaker 3 (03:47:51):
I don't think anyone got thrown out at all. I
think everyone that stole or I think the I think
all the players that I don't think anyone got caught stealing.

Speaker 1 (03:48:02):
I didn't really steal a lot of bases to begin with.

Speaker 3 (03:48:04):
I could, I could be wrong, but for the most part, well,
there was a couple of people like when you know, well,
I guess maybe they didn't steal that many bags, but
when they when they did try to steal, it didn't
seem like anyone was getting thrown out.

Speaker 1 (03:48:16):
Yes, it's iconic.

Speaker 3 (03:48:17):
I think it's iconic. I just want to point out
that I like that baseball has changed with the times,
like updated with pitch clocks.

Speaker 1 (03:48:27):
Such a pastoral game that you wouldn't expect it to
do that. Yes, okay, So here's the thing, though, Sieges,
we saw also we take this for granted because we
see it now on baseball, but the multiple camera angles
they were show angles that we hadn't seen.

Speaker 3 (03:48:39):
Oh yeah, that like third baseline, like down low shot.

Speaker 1 (03:48:43):
Remember the camera shots were one shot here and then
the runner. Yeah, the split screen yet screen. The broadcast
was in innovations. It was NBC. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:48:51):
Yeah, so I definitely holds up.

Speaker 1 (03:48:53):
I say, yes, yes, so it is iconic that the
story of baseball, essentially postseason baseball folklore in general. Fourth
at and Carlton Fisk if not for that, you know
what happens. What do the Red Sox do you know?
Is what a base hit? Maybe is that as a
clutch because I don't think it is, and it gets
them to a Game seven. But that moment right there,

(03:49:14):
it was, it was changed. They preempted the Tonight Show
starring Johnny Carson. Okay, that's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (03:49:21):
Whow got any gum?

Speaker 1 (03:49:24):
That's letterman? Oh my, but I'll do you go to
the gum anyway. Nineteen seventy five World Series siege before
your time, before my time, barely during your parents time,
and you know what, to a almost to a lesser degree,
during my parents as let's see in eighteen seventy five teenagers.

Speaker 3 (03:49:45):
Yeah, so they were, Yeah, it was they were kids
when this all happened. One of the most iconic things
that's not with us anymore. So, that's what I mean,
one of the most iconic sports moments in New England
sports history and just sports and general sports in general.

Speaker 1 (03:49:58):
Yes, this is.

Speaker 3 (03:50:00):
A treat to watch.

Speaker 1 (03:50:02):
Ports fan Pete Rose had come up to Carlton Fisk
and said, in this this game, is this some sort
of game or what?

Speaker 3 (03:50:08):
Also? Honorable mention on the coolest moment Carlton Fisk getting.

Speaker 1 (03:50:12):
Mobbed after the game.

Speaker 3 (03:50:14):
Yeah, the fans are on the field that they had
to anything, They had to get him, they had to
rush him to the dugout. The TV broadcasters like, yeah,
we can't get Carlton Fisk in an interview because he's
being mobbed. Tony Kubeck waiting, waiting for go dough. It's
just a little honorable mentioned. But that was a great
game and a.

Speaker 1 (03:50:33):
Pleasure to watch fifty years ago. Today see and history
being made right before our very eyes. Yes, stall documented
right there.

Speaker 3 (03:50:41):
Very exciting. I'm glad we got to the moon landing. No,
it's still baseball, glad, I'm glad I got to see it.
And it is similar to like the you know, the
moon landing in baseball or it's an iconic Yeah, the
version that version of yeah, the moon landing is it's
the equivalent to the baseball moment of that. It's that
big of a sports moment.

Speaker 1 (03:51:02):
Special thanks to MLB vault their YouTube channel for this
entire cover. Again, they didn't they didn't cut innings. Remember
when we did that instant classic for the twenty twenty
five Major League Baseball All stair game. Yes. MLB Internationals
feed essentially with Matt Hard Hard Rock fast version. Yes,
but we essentially had to We were just going by

(03:51:23):
their feed. They had cut like an inning or two. Yeah,
but that's just the way it is. Not for this though.
Got it all on tape, yes, So there you have
at Siege. We've got more of the World Series this
time nineteen ninety five World Series. Also, you know the knife,
stick it in and twist it because as you know,
Cleveland did not win the World Series or even get

(03:51:44):
to the World Series in twenty twenty five. Moving on
Game two, three, four, five, and six taking on the
Atlanta Braves, We've got more editions of the playback. We've
got classic Monday Night Football every single Monday the season
and that will continue on all the way till the
end of the semi We've got the Thanksgiving Day special
we're going to have for you the Minnesota Vikings taking

(03:52:04):
on the Dallas Cowboys. If the world didn't know who
Andy Moss was, they quickly soon found out while they
were having their turn duck in.

Speaker 3 (03:52:12):
Also, we'll be doing John Cena a special for his
final mess.

Speaker 1 (03:52:17):
His retirement matches scheduled for Saturday Night's main Event on
Peacock streaming on December thirteenth, Saturday, we are going to
have his match against the phenomenal aj Styles at Royal
Rumble twenty seventeen, which was in the Alamo Dome in
San Antonio, Texas, and we're going to have that for
you on December thirteenth. We're going to probably have that

(03:52:37):
launched it around noon, give or take, because we did
that with Goldberg as well. Yes, we did that at
noon on a Saturday because the Saturday Night's main event
on NBC and Peacock his final match later that night
against the Zaring General Gunta.

Speaker 3 (03:52:51):
We're also going to have the nineteen eighty Winter Olympics
Miracle on Ice, one of my favorite calls.

Speaker 1 (03:52:58):
We're going to have that in December.

Speaker 3 (03:52:59):
I'm excited forge on and the Winter Olympics are coming
up in twenty twenty six, so it'll be a good
i don't know, like a little throwback or preview of
the upcoming Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:53:09):
Yeah, Milano Garda that's in Italy and also the template
that started. Rocky Sylvester Stallone watched the fight that we're
going to watch from Cleveland, just outside of Cleveland. Muhammad Ali,
the greatest of all time, taking on the bayone Bleeder,
Chuck Webner, bayone New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (03:53:28):
Of course, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

Speaker 1 (03:53:31):
He who hits and runs away lives to fight another day. Siege.
We got bet this, We got that every week going on.

Speaker 3 (03:53:38):
Yep, We've got You can find all the content on
our socials. The clips Jadag and I are waving right
now to the camera. You can find all of that
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Instagram at j doog Arsenal, follow me at King Jay

(03:53:59):
on air. He has King J Underscore on air. He
has to again say it again, King J Underscore on air.
He has changed it a lot more simple.

Speaker 1 (03:54:07):
If you've if you've listened to previous playbacker playbacks for
you playbackers out there back in the early fall.

Speaker 3 (03:54:13):
Yes, it was Radio Wave CJ.

Speaker 1 (03:54:15):
Don't go on that one.

Speaker 3 (03:54:16):
It's King J. It's King J Underscore on air. Just
a lot more easy to find if you go.

Speaker 1 (03:54:21):
On that other one. It's a naughty site. Don't do
I'm just kidding. I'm just hidding.

Speaker 3 (03:54:26):
I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (03:54:27):
Dog.

Speaker 3 (03:54:27):
We've got a lot on the way.

Speaker 1 (03:54:28):
We still do. Yeah, you know, we've only scratched the
surface on this. We just did one of the most
iconic games of the history of baseball and sports in general,
American sports, and we got more on the way, yes,
wet football as we I've pretty much named our our
itinerary for twenty twenty five. Oh, don't forget. We are
going to do the imperfect Game, Armando Gallaraga game, which

(03:54:51):
should have been a perfect game, but Jimmy Joyce had
other ideas. We're gonna do that in November. But that's like,
that's probably our last baseball game we're gonna do for.

Speaker 3 (03:54:59):
Yeah, for the season, probably once. Once we finished the
imperfect game in the World Series, I think, uh, it's
probably gonna We're probably gonna move on. Maybe we'll do
like I was thinking, you know, maybe we can find
like a super cut of like some golf or something
like some old Tiger footage. But it's just like Tiger,
because I don't want to watch four days of Tiger

(03:55:21):
walk into whole one, all two, whole three. But maybe
maybe we do something like that. Maybe we do some
there could be extreme sports X games we could do. Uh,
there's literally a it's the sports world is endless.

Speaker 1 (03:55:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:55:34):
Send us your requests or recommendations.

Speaker 1 (03:55:36):
Requests not recommendations. It's a request, a request.

Speaker 3 (03:55:39):
Thank you. I always say the wrong thing. Send us
your request to our X page. Bet this, p do that.
Jadegg will track all.

Speaker 1 (03:55:47):
See what we can do again, still trying to find
Caitlin Clark's first wort of the matter. Anyways, sage as
I said, said, once we're done with that with well,
you know we're done, we'll be able. Well, by the way,
I forgot, didn't I send you not too long ago

(03:56:07):
that L Michaels Bob Costas game between the Mets and
the Giants from twenty eleven. Yes, that's right, because yeah, yeah,
we might do that one because it was really good.
If you watch, you gotta watch it. Just find one a.

Speaker 3 (03:56:18):
Special coverage with two of the best commentators ever.

Speaker 1 (03:56:21):
Because Al Michaels hadn't done baseball since the nineteen ninety
five World Series, which we're doing right well. Bob Costas
also did the nineteen ninety five World Series because ABC
and NBC had shared coverage because of the Baseball Network
with the baseball strike going on, said okay, you know
what you get, half you get. Okay, that kind of thing.
Even though you can't split into seven, you can split
into six, you can't split into seven. Yeah, So of

(03:56:42):
course the World Series that you're doing to go seven,
wish it did. Also wish it when Cleveland's way, that's
another day, story for another day. See get us out
of here, all right.

Speaker 3 (03:56:51):
Bet heeads, we're gonna roll out. Don't forget if you're
gonna bet, bet this and we'll catch you in the
next one.

Speaker 1 (03:56:57):
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