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August 11, 2022 2 mins
Introducing; Pretend A True Crime Documentary Podcast

From Javier Leiva's newest season of Pretend;

What if I told you that 90% of Frank Abagnale's claims are totally made up? Yeah, that's right. The most extraordinary con man in the world never actually did the crimes he claims he did. In the new season of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva debunks Frank Abagnale’s claims one by one, not with opinions but with court and prison records. This series also gives voice to new victim testimonies. In the end, Leiva travels to Las Vegas to confront Abagnale about his lies. This is the real-life Catch Me If You Can. Listen to Pretend on your favorite podcast app, and check out Javier's home page
https://pretendradio.org/
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(00:00):
Hey, everyone, It's Mike Morford, one of the producers of Beyond Bizarre
True Crime, and I'd like toinvite you to listen to a podcast called
Pretend, a true crime documentary podcast. It's created and hosted by a friend
of mine, Javier or Leva.You previously heard Javier host an episode of
this podcast in his episode about wildBill Hulbert. In each season of Javier's

(00:22):
show, he goes deep behind thescenes of some of the strangest stories you'll
ever hear to bring you a bird'seye view of the case. He's covered
colts and conman and a documentary styleformat, and right now, in his
new season, he's tackling the truthbehind Frank abbeg Now Junior, the forger
and fraudster famously portrayed by Leonardo DiCaprioin the Hint movie Catch Me If You
Can. I'm about to play youa preview of Pretend and Javier's coverage of

(00:45):
the real Catch Me if you Can, and after you listen to it,
head over to your favorite podcast appand subscribe to Javier's show. I promise
you you won't be disappointed. Enjoythis preview and I'll see you back here
soon. Do you remember the movieCatch Me if you Can. Well,
apparently a lot of people think thatthis movie is based on a true story,
but I found out it's ninety eightpercent bs. Frank Abognaw says that

(01:08):
he posed as an airline pilot,he was a doctor, and he wrote
two point five million dollars in badchecks. But after doing a little digging,
it turns out that Frank Abignail's storyis a lie, and I have
the documents to prove it. Yousee, I've been trying to get Frank
Abognaw on my podcast for five yearsnow, So if he won't come to
me, well I'll just have togo to him. Hey, for six

(01:32):
years, we invaded the FBI pretendingto be a piloted doctor professor. But
how were you able to do thatif you were sitting in prison the whole
time? Just recently, I flewout to Vegas and confronted Frank Abognail after
one of his keynote speeches. Thisis the real catch meat if you can,

(01:52):
and I'm going to expose his liesone by one, and I have
the police records, court records,all the documents I need to prove he
is a fraud. Look for theepisode titled The Real Catch Me. If
you can only on pretend
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