Beyond Substance

Beyond Substance

Beyond Substance deepens the understanding of our listeners about substance use in Indiana, specifically the problems and solutions to address these issues and to highlight that there is hope and share what can be done to foster and support recovery in our community.

Episodes

August 6, 2025 47 mins
In this powerful episode of Beyond Substance, hosts Jodi Miller and Dean Babcock explore recovery, redemption, and the systems that support both. Jodi sits down with Megan Pino, a graduate of the Hamilton County Drug Court Program, who shares her deeply personal journey through addiction, motherhood, and healing. Dean interviews Morgan Walker, Executive Director of Hancock County Community Corrections, who offers a systems-level lo...
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In this powerful episode, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore stigma from two deeply connected vantage points: the clinical world of healthcare and the lived reality of addiction and recovery. Dr. Christopher Suelzer, a retired internal medicine physician with decades of experience treating veterans, shares his perspective on how stigma within the medical community affects patient care and trust. Then, we meet Gloria Haynes,...
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June 1, 2025 48 mins
In this episode of Beyond Substance, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore how the criminal justice system—particularly county jails—can be a surprising gateway to recovery. Through conversations with Kelly Gunn, Director of Jail Programs in Hamilton County, and Jennifer Bella, a peer recovery coach who found hope behind bars, this episode examines the transformation possible when dignity, support, and structured programs are ...
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May 1, 2025 50 mins
In this episode of Beyond Substance, hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller explore the critical intersection of research, personal experience, and community support in addressing substance use and recovery. They engage with experts Dr. Brad Ray and Dr. Katrina "Kat" Thomas, who share insights on drug trends, the impact of overdose data, and the importance of empathy and education in combating stigma. The conversation emphasizes the ne...
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This episode of Beyond Substance explores the complex and often misunderstood topic of substance use disorder during pregnancy and beyond. Hosts Dean Babcock talks with expert Dr. Camila Arnado and Jodi Miller talks with Ashna Clark.

Segment 1: Co-Host Dean Babcock talks with Dr. Camila Arnaudo. Dr. Arnaudo shares her journey as an addiction psychiatrist, her insights on the complexities of substance use among pregnant individuals, ...
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In this episode of the Beyond Substance Podcast, hosts Dean Babcock and Jody Miller explore the transformative power of harm reduction in addressing substance use disorders. They engage in insightful conversations with Erika Chapman from the Indiana State Department of Health and Aisha Diss, founder of project.ME, discussing the importance of meeting individuals where they are, the impact of stigma, and the various forms of harm re...
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This episode explores the critical intersection of substance use disorder and hepatitis C, featuring personal stories and expert insights.

Dean Babcock and his guest, Dr. Janet Arno, discuss the critical intersection of substance use disorder and hepatitis C. They explore the stigma surrounding these issues, the importance of testing and treatment, and the public health implications of addressing these conditions. Dr. Arno shares he...
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November 1, 2024 50 mins
This episode of Beyond Substance delves into the use of buprenorphine for treating opioid use disorders, featuring insights from Dr. Carol Dellinger and the personal story of Bailey Wisher. 

Dr. Dellinger discusses her extensive experience in treating opioid use disorder with buprenorphine. She shares insights into the evolution of pain management practices, the importance of addressing stigma, and the role of primary care in provid...
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October 1, 2024 48 mins
This episode of Beyond Substance explores the profound impact of community-driven recovery efforts in Scott County, Indiana, particularly in response to a significant HIV outbreak linked to substance use. Through personal stories of struggle and resilience, the conversation highlights the importance of collaboration, the power of lived experiences, and the establishment of recovery organizations like Thrive, which provide hope and ...
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This episode of the Beyond Substance podcast focuses on the experience of receiving care in an opioid treatment program, commonly known as a methadone clinic. The hosts speak with Dr. Carolyn Warner-Greer, an addiction medicine specialist, and share the personal story of Brandy Vaughn, a former patient. The episode highlights the effectiveness of methadone in treating opioid use disorder and the comprehensive support services provi...
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Season 2 of the Beyond Substance podcast focuses on substance use disorder and its impact across the state of Indiana. The first episode features Jay Chaudhary, the Director of Indiana Division of Mental Health and Addiction and Doug Huntsinger, the Executive Director for Drug Prevention, Treatment and Enforcement and Chairman of the Indiana Commission to Combat Substance Use Disorder. They discuss the state's efforts in combating ...
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July 18, 2024 1 min
As we prepare for Season 2 of Beyond Substance, Co-hosts Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller drop in for a quick update.
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In this episode, the entire podcast team (Dean, Jodi, Shawn, Angela, and Mandy) share their perspectives and highlights from the first season of Beyond Substance Podcast. Listeners will learn more about each podcast team member's inspiration for working in the substance use disorder field and their favorite takeaways from the first 12 episodes.

September is Recovery Month, so check out the resources and event links below, to get ...
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August 1, 2023 51 mins
Episode 12: Stigma Can Be Deadly

Guests:

Dr. Melissa Cyders earned her PhD in Clinical Psychology from the University of Kentucky in 2009. She has been a faculty member in Psychology at IUPUI since 2009 and is the Director of Clinical Training for Clinical Psychology PhD program at IUPUI. Her research focuses on how impulsivity and its neurocognitive functions underlie risk-taking, with a special focus on alcohol and substance use ...
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June 30, 2023 36 mins
For this episode of Beyond Substance we will be learning about Mental Health America of Indiana (MHAI) and how this organization is working to improve mental health care for Hoosiers through advocacy efforts.
Guests:
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For this episode of Beyond Substance we will be learning about dual diagnosis also known as co-occurring conditions, which is the diagnosis of both a mental health condition and a substance use disorder. This can be tricky to navigate since the symptoms of one can often worsen the other condition, but comprehensive treatment is available. Check out the episode to learn more.

Guests:
    • Andy Chambers is an associate professor o...
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For this episode of Beyond Substance we will hear from two people who are working daily to combat health inequities by promoting public health and wellness.

Guests:
  • Virginia A. Caine, MD
is the Director and Chief Medical Officer of the Marion County Public Health Department. She is an Associate Professor of Medicine at Indiana University School of Medicine Infectious Diseases Division. She served as a Past President for ...
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March 31, 2023 54 mins
For this episode of Beyond Substance we will hear from two inspirational women who each lost a son to a drug overdose event. Justin and Alfie have channeled their pain into helping people with substance use disorder and their families resulting in additional programs, resources, and advocacy.

Guests:
  • Justin Phillips, MA and White House Champion of Change for Advocacy, Prevention and Treatment is the Founder and Executive Dire...
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For this episode of Beyond Substance we will focus on what harm reduction efforts look like in Marion County.

Hosted By Dean Babcock and Jodi Miller

Guests:
    • Madison Weintraut is the Assistant Administrator of Infectious Disease at Marion County Public Health Department. Madison’s passion for the intersect of hepatitis C and substance use disorder placed her at the forefront of efforts to establish Indianapolis’ first legal s...
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For this episode of Beyond Substance we will focus on substance use disorder in adolescent populations and hear about one family's journey to recovery.

Guests:
  • Chris and Sarah Platt share their family's journey of a father and daughter relationship dealing with the challenges of substance use disorder in adolescence.
  • Dr. Zachary Adams is a clinical psychologist and works for Indiana University School of Medicine in the Depart...
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