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Welcome back to Beyond the Frequency three sixty nine, your
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host Caesar Pagan, And today I have a fellow podcaster,
and you know, I mean I would consider you a friend.
Are we friends? Yeah, we're absolutely friends? Right? And I
think Bennett, I went ahead and found you through like
you know, social media, right, some some feeds came up.
I thought it was pretty interesting. And then I don't
(01:21):
know if I had if I either I had another
friend of mine on your show or you on their show.
But either way, the conversation is always was fantastic, just
like a lot of your guests, and then somehow we connected.
I think you reached out to me and then I
came on your show, and then we did that. So
it's time to flip the script. Now you're on my
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show and let's tell your story. So I'm interested in
having that conversation because you and I have still been
We've been in contact, but I know, I know what
I've seen on social media and off of your off
of your shows and with your guests, but I don't
really know your story, and so I'm like, man, like
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you know, it's like long, long waiting and overdoing. So
then it wants you to stop by telling us what
your podcast is and one point, why why do you
do it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
So thank you for having me on obviously, I mean
we've been we've been talking. Now Brad Lale is really
who was the Lynchpin?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's what it was. Yeah, Brad Lie, what's up Brad
with the Awakened podcast? That's his podcast, So check it out, guys.
He's doing some cool stuff. Yeah he is. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So my podcast recent this one is called broadcasting Seeds.
I do have other podcasts right now, which is a
glutton for punishment, but I just can't focus.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Man.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Sometimes I can, but at the end of the day,
it's part of the reason why broadcasting Seeds is broadcasting Seeds,
I cause I can't just stay in.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
One little niche. I just can't do it. Man. It's
it's like against who I am.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So I take all the different into conspiracies, UFOs, cryptids.
I mean, Bigfoot was kind of my gay way to
all this. But paranormal I've had paranormal experiences and I've
always been real into you know, alternative religion, all the
things man like, and and I just can't. So broadcasting
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Seeds is all about planting seeds in people's minds to
just make them think that's it, you know, you think
outside the box.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's good though. But I
want to clarify. So you have another podcast, but it's
is it just strictly like one one niche on one topic.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
We have two really three niche podcasts. One is on
this is like national security, which is everything, and that's
part of like my job. I guess you could say,
you know, I do that one for work, and then
I've got a Bigfoot specific called Whispers of the Wood Ape.
And then I've got another history podcast that is kind
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of lagged behind because I've really been working on like
alternative histories that are still mainstream, but you know deeper.
That's a deeper podcast. It's called Seeds of History, and
I those those episodes are further and fewer in between.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, yeah, so mad, So you got a lot of Yeah,
you got You're kind of spreading your yourself in So
which one is your proud and enjoy right now or
which one are you focusing the most on right now?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I focus the most on this one broadcasting Seeds and
then full spectrum Frontiers as well. That one I don't
really have. I get paid to do that one. So
you got, yeah, you gotta do it, kind of gotta.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Do it right.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
But it's something that's near and dear to my heart,
which is national security. And national security is everything, not
just the military, not just kinetic action, right, It's also
where our food comes from, it's you know, our healthcare system.
All of that is national security. So we literally talk
about everything.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
So yeah, that's interesting though. So okay, so you mentioned
Bigfoot crime fam was big for your your gateway into
this supernatural CRYPTI My first experience was was a paranormal
experience with ghosts.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
So I guess that would be my gay. But my
real gateway is cryptis is I just man, I've ever
since I So, I had an experience when I was
like eleven, probably twelve at the most, but eleven, where
I came me and two other kids came face to
face with a I have to say with sasquatch. Yeah,
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face face to face like pretty like within ten feet, man,
that sucker was there, Like I could smell and we yeah, yeah,
tell us, tell us. The first thing that hit us.
That first thing that hit me was just the smell,
like awful. Yeah yeah. It's like like the best way
is like swamp bacteria, right, the combination of them like
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like a wet animal. And then but I say, sprinkle
a d comp.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Pretty good d com Yeah yeah yeah, And so it
had like that kind of sick, sweet smell. Man.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
It's just it's definitely something on its own, and it's
one of those things that comes up in other people's
sightings as well. They have the same type of smell
and I've smelled it twice, once that in that incident,
and then another one later on about seven years later,
and an entire country away. So the first one was
in Illinois and the second one was in Alaska.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, so, so when you smelled it that second time,
you were like, I know what it is. I know
what this is. Yeah. Literally, it was like in.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Bed, it's it's and if I smell it again, I
mean it's it's ingrained, you.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Know, And I mean have you okay? Well, first of all,
one thing that I do know about you is that
you also served in the military, Right, So did do
you ever do any combat? Did you smell any death
anything like that? Yeah? Yeah, okay, So when it.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Comes to you know what, when I know when I
say dcomp I know, yeah it smells okay, Okay, I
just gave a little yeah, I get a little bit
of baseline there and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
So, okay, the one in Illinois eleven years old, you
came face to face, you were with some friends. What
was the deal with that situation? How did you get there?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
We were in the we were in the Boy Scouts,
and we were camping this big campground that that we
used to go to all the time. And there there
had been legends. There's legends there about sasquatch or bigfoot
type creatures right with the Native Americans and folks that
that are from the area, and it's not unheard of
to have sightings there, but you know they're farther and
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fewer in between.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Where's Where's where's there? Where's this campsite?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
It's in McClain County, Illinois, so not too too far.
I think it's called Lake Bloomington maybe is the lake
that it's on, and that the camps that used to
be it's called Camp Heffernet something like that. But that was, man,
I was like forty years ago.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Yeah, it wasn't too logo, It wasn't too long ago.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
So so we we had we had camped in the
this like my squad, I guess is what you would
call it.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
My squad.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Every squad got to cheese where they would set up,
and we set up in this pine forest all the
time because it was comfortable.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You had this like thick mat of pine needles and
it was always just comfortable, right, and you could hear
I'm a sucker for like whispering pines, right, so I
could to hear that wind going through the pine trees.
It's just super common. So as a kid from a chaotic,
you know, family life, I was just like always looking
for those things to calm down, and so.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
That was one of them.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, we were late for dinner they had the scoutmasters
would stay in a cabin and that's usually and there
was also like a we would also do. They'd have
like you know, cookouts and stuff, but it was always
right there. That was a central location.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
So we were late.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
We were running and there's this like drain ditch that
runs along that goes down to the lake, and there's
these hedgerows that also go down. I don't think they're
there anymore, but they used to be that lined a
road that would go down to like where they had
like a bowl launch maybe and some stuff like that
to go out in the water. So these hedgerows were
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like ten feet tall and we would crawl under the
just the cuts. Otherwise, young were lazy boys. We didn't
want to walk all the way down to the end
of the hedgerow to cut around. We wanted to cut
through right. So that's usually the way that we would go. Well,
we jumped this drainage ditch and like the best way
to describe it is the bush the headrow just exploded
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and there was this just god awful roar screen roar
like it was kind of like so many things, kind
of like the snow.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It was just one thing. It was like just this like.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Roar screen, like you could feel it right in front
of us, but you could also see because whatever it
was was like shaking the tree. But when it would
do this, it would pull them apart, and you could
see the silhouette because it was the setting sun was
behind it, and it just had this massive It was
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just massive, and its head was at least it's about
eight feet up. The hedge row was about ten feet
and it was like right, you know, it.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Was okay, not too set, so before you continue, all right,
So this thing was so massive that it was basically
just bending out.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
How big were these trees that it was there? They're big,
I mean they're there. I mean it's you know, it's
a head like imagine World War two hedero like probably
two feet wide. Yeah, I'd say about two feet wide,
but these went on for you know, two hundred feet
like they were they were long, gotcha, And it was
just shaken and when he when it would do this.
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You could you could see the outline gotcha of a
head and shoulders, couldn't see like color, couldn't see.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
There was no like glowing eyes or anything like that.
It was just an outline, an outline eight feet tall.
Now let me ask you this though, about how far
of a distance were you and this thing? Ten to
fifteen Okay, so ten to fifteen feet?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Was it like at nighttime? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well the sun was set, it was it was setting
and the sun was already down.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
So that that does that does so if a normal
like a camp counselor or whatever case is, was was
there instead instead of the of the of the thing
of the big foot that you had saw, would you
be able to just see the camp counselor's features or
what you have also seen, just more of a silhouette.
What do you think? I don't know, man, that's a
good question, yeah, because because that makes me think though,
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I mean, I mean again, if the thing is tall taller,
maybe you know, maybe obviously there's more shadow and everything
for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
But anyways, continue, Yeah, but at the end of the day,
when it comes like there's no human making the sound.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
That came out, No, Yeah, I got you, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
And that that's what really sticks with me. And it
was one of those things where you just feel you
felt it as much as you heard it, right, And
it was uh, one kid that was with us freaked
and he lost it. I mean we all lost it,
but it was he started screaming and we just took
a right. We did not keep going straight. We took
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a right and ran. Probably we had to run about
a quarter of a mile to get to where our
camp area, where where the the adults were, I guess
you could say. And we were just I've never I've
never run so fast in my life, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah. And did you did you ever? Guys ever go back?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I mean yeah, we've been in the area. We went
back to sleep, right, The one kid did not, but
the other two of us did.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
But we were with like ten other kids too. So
did they know that you were going back there to
go see this thing? Yeah? We heard, you.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Know, we told everybody and they were like, okay, yeah,
But we didn't really get a good area look at
the area that it was in until the next day.
And the only thing there was no footprints, but there
was a lot of leaves missing, like that had fallen
on the ground. But other than that, there wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
That at that at that age and time. Did you
ever hear about bigfoot stories? Did you hear? Okay, that
was one of the things too is at that And
I could be wrong, but I don't know where.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
You know, you know how memory is, man, it's not
good usually, But I distinctly remember, and I'm pretty sure
it was there. There was this There was like a
parade ground, that's the best way I would describe it.
Just a giant field at the center of this whole place, right,
and there was this stump there that had like a
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chair cut into it, right, And I feel like just
a story that somebody was telling us. I feel like
I read a plaque that was on this chair, and
it talked about like a like a it was a legend,
native legend that they would like in essence, sacrifice girls
to this sasquatch like creature.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
That they would put.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The girls up on the seat and then you.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Know, wait for the big foot thing to come and
grab a and then the girls with disappear.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yeah, so that was a story that I remember, but.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, I'm not positive that that's exactly where it was
or who knows man stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, I mean, I mean I would say, do if
you I think, what sticks with you the most outside
of thought memory is the feeling, right oh yeah, So
if the feeling speaks louder to you then the memory,
I would say, it happened to you, yeah, or you've
you've experienced it, you know. So there's a lot there's
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a lot of times that it's like it's like high school.
There's certain events that you don't remember the details about it,
like what people said or what was on a particular test,
but the experience of the event, like you remember it,
you know. Yes, So yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm
with you, Bennett. So yeah. So I don't think none
of that was a was a was a story if
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you if it's still something in remembrance today, I mean
when I think about it, I get chilled. Chill. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
So you know, there's a there is a there is
a trauma connected to that, you know, And that's that's
what I'll call it, because it was and like you know,
I'm not saying I don't have nightmares, but it happens,
you know, things and you're just like you know, you
remember like things will flash, you.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Know when I'm out in the woods doing research. Now
you're just like, man, you know that that roar you want? Yeah,
and you want to do that?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
And I've actually heard that something very similar, but it sounded,
frankly the way I would describe it as it was
from a like a more like juvenile or maybe a
female because it didn't have the base to it. But
I that this happened two years ago in Pennsylvania, so interesting,
And I'm actually going back there this coming weekend, so.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
To the same place, same campus. Is that just for
like recreational purposes?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Yeah, you know, we do research there, so there's a
bunch of us that do that. And then we're actually
filming a documentary.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Man, well congress how that goes? Yeah? Yeah? Have you
ever done those things where you like go to that
same spot close to where you were at, close your
eyes and just try to like put yourself back into
that place for sure?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And yeah, So that's one of the things that I'm
going to actually do because Okay, we've talked, We've talked
that I'm also a reiki practitioner, Yes, yeah you are,
So I'm going to do a field experiment where I'm
literally gonna like go to this.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's a cryptid hot spot, at least it is for us.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
We've had instances with a few different instants with with sasquatch, bigfoot.
But so also this last time that we were there,
we found big, big, big dog prints and I don't know,
you know knows it could be a giant dog or
it could be dog Man or whatever.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know. Yeah, I heard of dog I've heard of
you know, Ry obviously from from Codegas.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, so he's it's the Curious, It's the Codex Curiosities
of God White.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, I know, I know. Every time. Yeah, I'll yeah,
I'll put it on the I'll put on the curiosity.
That's idea. Yeah, we'll get there and stuff. But yeah,
that's the first time that I heard of like the
term dog man And yeah, oh and what's the other
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podcaster in full hats? But yeah, isn't he been? Also
isn't he also? I think it's his name. I don't know,
maybe Tinfoil Hat or ten because tinfoil hat, tinfolds tails,
tenfoil tails Man. We're gonna get all these messed up
and everything. We'll figure it out. But yeah, tenfolds are
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I think I think it's ten fold tales. But he
also mentioned dog Man and he's also currently doing as
far as I know, some documentaries right now, like he's
on the woods, you know, Ghostbuster gear all that good
ship like this, right. Yeah, so that's gonna be excited
to see what what the what the both of you
guys individually.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
One of the things I'm going to do is go
out there and ground myself, like ground myself and then
do a like a reiki session focused.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Outward okay land and yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Any entities present maybe and document those, document the sensations,
changes in the environment, anomalous reactions, yeah, yeah, sounds, feelings,
m n if. I've got all the you know, I've
got all the MF meters and stuff and got a
ton of cameras. So we're gonna do that as part
of this whole thing, so we'll see you never know.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
How do you protect your energy when doing stuff like this? Yeah,
I literally like put on armor.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I mean not literally, but you know, in in my
in the energy, I put on armor for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah. And yeah, man, do you have a particular way
that you visualize because I'm honestly interesting, how everyone. Everyone
has their own visualization, like like, let me tell you this.
The way the way I the way I do it
is I actually imagine like the Iron Man suit flying
in and like just yeah, I remember you saying that, Yeah,
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but I think it was on on the brads on
somebody's Yeah, I envisioned it that that way. And again,
it's all about your vision. But it's fun.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I don't so I say armor, but mine's not actually armor.
It's more of a light and I just kind of like,
you know, sit in it and kind of it.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Just you know, surrounds me. Yeah, there you go. That's it. Yeah.
So it's not so it's it's armor, but it's more
of like a force field. Yeah, that's it, bubble force field, right, whatever.
As long as you are protected before you start engaging
and all that good stuff. I'm glad. I'm glad you're
doing that because.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I've definitely had things of hitch hikers, I guess you
would call them over the years.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
How have you found out that you've had a hitchhiker?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
So it's not just that, it's like entities in general. Yeah,
and I've had a for years. I feel like I
had a I guess you would call it like a
Lilith type entity.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
That Wow, that date was hooked to me. Wow out
wait now, Bennett, So for those that may not be
familiar with a Lilith entity, can you give a little
foundation of what Lilith or who she was A litli
Lilith is.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Uh, It's it's a it's a dark feminine energy. And now,
I mean there's all kinds the stories of who Lilith
is and writing that goes from everything to you know,
biblical side where it's she was Adam's first wife and
was like no, I won't be subject to you, YadA YadA, YadA,
to you know, as a Mesopotamian goddess. There's stories of that.
(21:17):
There's also that she's basically the queen of Help. That's
another version, right, yeah, what what's the one that you're from? This?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
So I say, I.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Am familiar with this like more of like a suckubust
type entity.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Okay, yeah, and it doesn't have to be Lilith.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm just saying it was Lilith like like, that's the
way I got you because it was it was very
it was very it was abusive and sexual on nature.
So so it was kind of like a manifestation because
I was an abused kid, you know stuff, that's the
whole story, right, you know, so you and I go there,
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but you know so, but with that trauma as a kid,
it opens doors, and you have a tendency to invite
things in not necessarily you're you're leaving doors open and
then you you know, let things in. Right, you don't
necessarily have to uh what is the word where you
(22:17):
agree to it, but consent give it consent?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, so you don't have to consent to it all
the time. Sometimes the door.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Being opens consent enough, right, But at the end of
the day, I did not consent to this, and I
just for years I had this weird relationship around women
and nightmares and sexual stuff, like just weird, like just
not good for my soul.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah. Yeah, I always felt like it was.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
You know whatever that was telling me to like watch
porn and all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, not not like deviant stuff, but just not healthy right, right.
And so that the fact that the fact that you
became aware of that is huge. Yeah, And that didn't
happen until like early it was like last year, a
year before that.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
So how long were you probably carrying this. Then we're
talking about like a decade or two.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, i'd say I'd say at least twenty years. Okay,
was it a same because hindsight's twenty twenty right, Yeah,
I start analyzing everything.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah, you're like, holy crap, that happened.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Probably you know like this you could you can see
the influence now that it's gone, I don't feel it,
and I'm like, oh, yeah, of course, of course you go.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
No.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
And it's not like you're not you're not giving. And
it's not like I was like possessed, right and like
doing things against my will. That's not how that worked.
It was at least not in my wake in state
and my dream state. You know, there's plenty of times
when it was straight.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Up attack, you know, not good and yeah, are you
a fighter in your dreams or now?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I mean it depends and my kids are there, stuff's
going down, it's getting dealt with.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Forget light armor, We're going we're going straight a haul buster.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, I'm straight like door kicker back in session, you know,
like you know all the stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
You know, it's we were talking the other day about
because you.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Know, when when I was in the Marines and in
the army, I carried like an M four and it's
I picked one up the other day. It's just an extent.
It like doesn't leave you then extension on my body
now is yeah. I mean I still have the callouses
from the from the selector switch. That's crazy, Like yeah,
I mean that's there always and it's like a big yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
It's a reminder yeah, yeah of a past life. Well,
it's hard. It's hard to take the military man out
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, it is, it is, but it's definitely you know,
it was. It's it's needed. I and I try to
like help I help other veterans try and move away
from that because it's a and the stuff you did
does not define who you are, whether you're proud of
it or you're not, because there's plenty of people that
are not proud of what they've done, right, And whether
you're proud or not, it happened, and you just got
(25:12):
to deal with it and deal with it, you know,
in in a way that's good for you and your
brothers and sisters and kids and wife.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And you know, yeah, absolutely man, and you know again,
thank you for your service as well. I know we
hear that a lot, but thank you for that, you know,
and no one made you join, right, yeah, true story,
And I appreciate and saying to you. Yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely, man, dude,
I wonder so Okay. One thing that that you guys
(25:41):
need to know about Bennett is that in the short
time that I had initially met him, then after I posted,
you know, upcoming episodes on my podcast or any kind
of clips, I started seeing that Ben it was also
like reposting him on his social media and things like that,
and I was like, I was like, oh, that's I mean,
that's cool, but why you know, why why is he
(26:04):
doing that? And you gave me a good phrase? Can
you say what that phrase is about the tides?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, because rising tides raise all ships.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah, dude, I love that, Like I haven't. I don't
have any in my repertoire of quotes. I don't have
anything with tides in it. So that's why it's easy
for me to remember. But what a gracious thing that
you that you do, because I think you also mentioned
that like when I when I rise, you rise, and
vice versa, you know, and we help each other out.
(26:35):
What what where did that come from? Where did that
mindset come from it's definitely.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
I mean I could look back at like the boy
Scouts and say, oh, I was there, But where it
really was solidified was you know, sports, and then the military.
Undoubtedly really the military after I got like I you
don't realize, like you know, your brothers and sisters that
that are there on you're in right and and they
(27:03):
don't all you don't continue to be there with those
people all the time. But I remember an incident where
I was just I was hurting, man like, just not
doing well. I uh, somehow I can't remember if it was.
I think it was Facebook, because uh that was that
(27:23):
was one of the first big social media other than MySpace.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
But my Space though, damn you you just you just
brought something back I forgot. Damn no, I think you
know my Space technically is still around? No, is it really?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And if I'm not mistaken, justin Timberlake owns it. Can
you can fact check me everyone on that. Yeah, I
think it's true and it's basically music based at this point,
but I don't know if it actually like it still
is like a published platform. But I'm pretty sure justin
Timberlake count.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So you're so, let me just make sure you so
you're saying, just make sure we can look this up.
You may you mentioned that my Space was brought out.
I was bought out maybe by JT. And but it's
now strictly just like a music streaming.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
That's mainly what they do. That It wasn't just that
I haven't been there in a long time. I don't remember,
but I think that's what it kind.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Of is fun fact boys and girls, because if you're curious,
check it out, see if it's still there.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, I was like, oh no, so buddy of mine,
buddy of mine had seen I can't remember, he saw
something that he reached out to me and was like,
hey man, how you doing. And then that just kind
of what it what it showed me is the power
of connection and just being there with your career buddies, right,
because him and I went through a lot of crap
(28:40):
and so him reaching out to me and then you know,
and he's actually passed away at this point, unfortunately, but
not from you know, he just he got sick and
passed away. But at the end of the day, I
kind of look at him as like save and not
save in my life, but just showing me the path
kind of because he had been out for a little
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while and then you know, heading down that road of
being able to deal with the issues that we went through,
you know, individually, and also you know, do you just
that stuff gets gets dicey.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Yeah, absolutely, man. I'm glad you had people there because,
you know, we a lot of the military events talk about,
you know, the rating or remembering how it felt to
be with a family, your brothers and your sisters and
things like that, especially because of the things that we've
experienced together with these with these once strangers now you
know their family, right. But there's also folks in the
(29:35):
military that don't feel that even though that they're in
an organization, a squadron, a company, whatever the case is,
they still feel by them by themselves. So let me say,
is regarding the whole like supernatural and cryptic stuff, did
you talk a lot about this to any of your
brethren in the military or was this after you got out?
Speaker 3 (29:55):
This is mainly after I got out, But I mean
it was always it was always a thing. It was
alway was like, oh, yeah, man, I've had a bigfoot
experience or I've had a paranormal experience, things like that,
and it was always kind of you know, it was
always there, like you know, when we when we we
deployed the Bosnia the first time there was we were
we were going in and out of some pretty spooky places.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, just just meaning like and they're like, oh, do
you think it's haunted here? And I'm like, you know whatever,
But it was it was always funny, but it was
you know, and then you guys, when alcohol gets involved,
you guys talk about dumbest stuff.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Man. Yeah, yeah, I mean so there was always dumb
or truth you know that.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
But but part of it too came about that. That's
really so that deployment. This was in nineteen ninety nine
where I really got into conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, what's that? What's that first one that comes to mind?
That that kind of took you There.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Was kind of like the so the government running drugs
that kind of like the opioid stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, but before that, this was like back in the nineties,
so like, okay, we coke stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
That the government was was selling this stuff. That's the
aa maybe there's you know, there's a dude, it gets
deep okay, Okay, I mean I mean I like a
little appetizer of it.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, So so I mean it was just one of
those things where because of the jobs that I was
doing with we were part of a drug Task Force
called JTF six, which still exists. It's part of North Kombe,
but we would assist it was a military request. It
was a request from you know, federal, state or local
law enforcement for assistance with the war on drugs. So
(31:44):
with that being said, we did stuff in national forests
where we would go find you know, grow operations. And
then also there was mobile meth labs. So it's like
some breaking bad stuff. Yeah, but I'll say yeah, seriously,
like straight out of that, Like I don't like I
don't know if I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Know the people that wrote Breaking Bad, but like it's
a thing they knew something, yeah yeah, they need right,
So in.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
The national parks and then or they would just bought
to remote areas. So we had some of that, and
then there was some some border operations stuff too. With that,
there's some things that that we saw and dealt with
that were just shady, like not right, and it you know,
had to do with like National Forest Service planes and
(32:31):
just planes that weren't marked. Things like that, like just
not stuff that doesn't add up. So that kind of
so with those experiences then transferring it to it then
having a guy that I was in a platoon with
who was like consist like Alex Jones on steroids. Man,
(32:51):
this dude was like serious and he had he had
like literature, like pamphlets, and like, man, you're like a
you know, he would be like always a white supremacist
or something this week, right, but he, uh, he had
just pamphlets and all kinds of stuff on everything. So
I started diving into that just because it was interesting.
(33:12):
And you know, we're we're deployed. There's not a whole
lot to do, right. Yeah, that's that started me down
that wormhole, rabbit hole, whatever you want to call it. Yeah,
And that's you know again never left me, you know,
from nine to eleven. Then I was deployed. I was
in the Army and deployed the Egypt during nine I
was there during nine to eleven.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
So we were actually there sitting on the Israeli border
with the Egypt just making sure nobody starts shooting. And
then all of a sudden, airplanes starts smashing into buildings
in the US and we were watching it on the AFN.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
AF and wow, forgot about that.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, but in the afternoon, like three, well we're in Egypt,
so I want to say it was three or four
in the afternoon and we were getting up, like we
had been doing guard duty and stuff, so I can't remember. Yeah,
we you know, I had just like showered and come
in and all of a sudden there's TV.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I'm like, wait, yeah, what's going on? And just for
for folks. AFN that's like the network overseas, the Armed
Forces Network.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah, so they don't have commercials. So what it was
is we were watching Good Morning America at three four
in the afternoon, right, yeah, and it was one of
those points where they didn't have the commercials because they
don't they're not allowed to show commercials. So with Good
Morning America, they have a like a backdrop picture of
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the live feed from Good Morning America and then they
have the scrolling temperatures from the cities in the US.
And as that was happening, all of a sudden, you
just see this plume of smoke come out of the
side and we're like, what the Like, my buddy's like, dude, what.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Is going on here?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
And then they came back live and they're like, it
looks like a plane smashed into the tower.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
And they're like, but but we don't. We're not sure. Yeah,
because that was the first the first plane, so yeah, yeah,
so that's cool, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
And then once the Pentagon got hit, then all of
a sudden, our blast sirens went off and we all
got sent to General Quarter. So that was fun for
the next month.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's real, man, that's when you know, shit was gatined real,
you know, well, and we're.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Like, because we're in a foreign country, durnt and we're like,
what is gonna happen, Like, what is going on? Yeah,
they were freaked out that it was who knows anything
could have happened.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I was in when when that happened. I was just
probably the second probably the second year in the military already,
and I was in a skiff in a good fellow
Air Force base in the city of San Angelo, Texas,
and came on TV. My supervisor was like, Hey, everybody's
(35:52):
watching this, come watch this, and we were just all
kind of like asking the same the same question, like
is this real? Like what's like, what's like, what what's
going on? Is it's a movie or something. They're like, no, like,
you know, a plane just you know, hit the tower.
We're like okay, and I'm thinking, you know, I'm probably
like nineteen maybe twenty, and I'm thinking like, okay, you know,
(36:13):
there's a hole in the building. They're gonna fix it
later and whatever. And then came another came another.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Plane and we're like watching that other plane hit You're like,
wait a minute, hey, what is.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Like that looks yeah all wrong. Yeah, it's always it's
always interesting to ask people where were you on nine
to eleven, Like how did you see it? But then
compared to where we were at, compared to the ones
that were like looking up at the building, Yeah, like
I have friends that were that were down there and yeah,
it was insane. Yeah. Did you see the documentary with
(36:46):
like all the smoke, all the Yeah, that's that's that's wild, right,
I mean, and there's lasting health effects from that stuff
at this point. Yeah. No good Yeah. Yeah. Hey. On
a on a very side note to circle back to
real quick, the MySpace thing, I had looked it up
and yeah, jessin tiber Lake bought it uh in twenty
(37:06):
eleven Juna twenty eleven for thirty five million dollars, and
it's it's basically focusing on connecting artists and fans okay
together and stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So yeah, it's for anybody who cares. It's a thing. Yeah,
it's it's it works. Your memory. Your memory is good.
Your memory is good.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Okay, here's some random questions here, and just answer him
as as you see fit. Are you a Are you
a flat earth guy or a round earth guy?
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I am A, I would say, I am. I have
round Earth tendencies.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay, I don't know what that means because I'm not
sold on either.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Okay, I think it's something obviously, I don't. I don't
necessarily believe it's what.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
They say it is. That's a yeah, that's a good point.
Like like if they're saying it's round and then and
then and then they whoever also saying it's flat with
it's neither right, right? What if it's neither? What if
it's something in between? I don't know, you know. So
it's it's one of those things like.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
I'm non committal in the in the fact that I
don't I don't play the you know, I'm not part
of the cult. Yeah, because man, some of these folks
get culty like it, like, it's not a religion here.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, folks, you know, it's not a religion. Live on
a flat earth or or not. But yeah, I lean globe,
so you know, but I've been seen, I I've been
given some some good information here and there. But it
still doesn't change the fact that I think we're a globe. Yeah,
and does it and and to and to you does
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it matter? No, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I think at the end of the day, we're here.
I mean, it's cool to know what you're doing or
what what you know, what you're walking around on is
is whatever. But at the end of the day, it
doesn't really matter what the what's the different. I'm not
going to lose friends and get in the fights over it.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Right right. And you're not going to you know, put
a wall between potential friends, no, and.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Or you know, show me, show me. I'm always interested
in the info. Yeah, I'll never be like nope, nope, no,
you know we're nope, we're on a flat earth and
that's it.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Never. I just won't be that or you know, and
I'm not the other way either. I won't. I don't
subscribe to that type of thinking either. So yeah, I
love that. I mean, it's like it's like a fish.
If you toll the fish what they live in, would
they really care?
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, they just know I can't breathe when they get
out of water, and yeah, put me back in it.
I'm back in it, right, Yeah, I know that I
don't breathe in water. Drowned a couple of times, you know.
And it's not my element. Yes, that's your element, not
my element.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Literally literally what if? So ben it? What about aliens?
Where you're going to come from inside the earth outside
of Earth? Different dimensions? I think I have a feeling.
I have a feeling.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Obviously there's there's dimensions. I believe there is, But what
that means exactly, I'm not sure. I just know there's
things outside of our scope, right visually the electromagnetoscope too,
meaning and who knows how layered all this is, right,
But with that being said, I'm not saying there's no
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outer space I have. I'm kind of on the bun
that with aliens, I think they're agents of the enemy,
basically thinking like fallen and or Nephelin, things like that
that are just created, right, And you know, that's a lot.
It's a whole episode.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
I mean, it's you know, this is what this is,
this is you're the guests, man, I mean, I I
just I'm just curious to see how you visioned this stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Definitely, I definitely am in the I'm along those lines
of like folks like La Marzouli kind of with that.
I've just done a lot of research Gary Wayne, guys
like that. I've done a lot of research on this
stuff too. And that's for me. That's also where because
I do let my heart lead me some and where
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has that heart legend controlled way. It's led me to
the fact that I think this is all a grand plan, right,
and that the enemy has created this whole alternate attempting
to do this alternate reality to throw us off. And
I think aliens are part of that whole thing.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Is there a difference between aliens and encrypton? That is
a good question.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I am kind of in the camp, getting more into
the camp that they are part of the If you
go into the Bible, they talk about the you know,
the beasts of the wild, and I think that they're
part of this army.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Necessarily, I guess is a good way to put it.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Put together by the enemy I don't think they're all
bad inherently though, So I think some still look for
dump just like any other entity would, right, And yeah, dude.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I'm loving it.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Yeah, but I think I think there's a lot of
you know, I mean, so I've never there's there was
a DNA study. It's the melbour Ketchum DNA and I'll
catch a lot of flak for it, but that's fine.
A woman did a DNA study with the help of like,
you know, some good professional folks like Scott Carpenter and
David Polti's the four to one one guy. You know,
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everybody knows who that guy is for the most part,
the missing four to one one stuff. And they and
a whole bunch of other people collected samples, hair samples,
I think they had one or two tissue samples, some
a bunch of different samples and did DNA testing on it.
This is the short version. The DNA testing on it,
and the mitochondrial DNA came back as human female and
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nuclear DNA, which signifies the father came up unknown.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
So what does that say.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
I mean, you could take it a million different ways,
but it was also one of those things is because
I think it's they're like Nephlim to an extent where
they're part human and part something else, whether it's angel
whatever you wanted to be, uh yeah, and some sort
of you know, creature, some sort of you know, it
makes sense that yeah, who knows, But.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Is it like just to make sure that I understand,
is it like like the bastard childs of the angels?
I guess? Is that? Yes?
Speaker 3 (43:24):
And that's what the Nephilm were, right the giant They
were the offspring of of you know, daughters of men
and the sons of God, the phone angels, and you
know we've had tons of that stuff with Nephelm.
Speaker 1 (43:37):
Before and after the flood.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah, you know, so they're the ones that you know,
if you look at all this different depictions throughout time,
you've got the demigods. That's who some of these folks were.
But they're also what I.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Would call little g gods. Yeah yeah, yeah, I call that.
I called that to the gods with the lower case G. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely,
And that and that makes sense too because the like
you know, like when I was talking to Gary Gary Wayne,
he definitely put that planet that seed in my mind
when he mentioned that some of these demigods or nashela
(44:17):
river want you know, like he mentioned one of them
being Hercules, and I was like, I was like, oh shit.
And then you know, along with Hercules a lot of
these heroes. It goes back to what you were just saying,
where some of these were looking for redemption in some sense,
they were just like, hey, I'm I'm not a bad one.
I actually like humans and things like that.
Speaker 3 (44:39):
So well, some of that evidence comes from and a
lot of people cite this, but the Bump podcast. If
you've never heard of the Bump podcast, it's a it's
a it's a great podcast.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
But this he had this woman on who had this
long standing relationship talking maybe not long standing, but she
had a telepathic conversation with a bigfoot right and it
had told her that it was what it's called an
elude and what then eli youd come? Turns out they
are in essence, they are the offspring off.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
Where's that term aliu come from? The language?
Speaker 3 (45:16):
The person I'm not sure and I've got to do
more research on it. But the person that clarified that
that I heard was scary. That's what an eliud actually is,
and it basically that's what it is. It's the offspring
of an F one. Yeah, and folks, I'll go ahead.
I'll do the research.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I just at least for the for what that term is,
and I'll put it on the video when you guys
are watching you if you're listening on Spotify, catch the YouTube,
would just google it, you know. So so I need
to dig deeper into that. But you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, yeah,
I know there's there's a there's a there's a lot
to look into, like literally like you can't see them,
(45:54):
but you know, like I just got notes. Yeah, it's everywhere.
And I like these these sticky notes.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do, and I have them everywhere.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
I like it. How that's old school that you have
all the all the actual sticky notes. I actually have
sticky notes, but they're they're actually all over my computer desktop.
I used the digital ones and everything because I'm always
pretty much on my computer, so when I open them up,
they're they're not there, they are and everything stuff. But
that's that's that's interesting though. And again then I I like,
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I like everyone's per perspective. There is there is so
much to to dig into, you know, And I think
it's it's just better to whatever your vibe with at
the moment, whatever catches your in your interest. Maybe you
might be like, for example, the Bigfoot thing might be
something with you till you till you die, right, But
(46:48):
then all of a sudden you may have a month
where you're interested in this one thing and then two
weeks in this other thing, and and it's all part
of the process, you know. I don't think you have
to be like you know, when when you have folks
that are just into like one topic, you know, it
does make me question, well, how open are you? Because
(47:09):
if this is all that you believe in, then okay,
you know. And I think at the end of the day,
they're all connected. They're all connected. Yeah, I mean everything's
connected right at the end of the day.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
And I'll say that again. I say that a lot.
I'm trying to work on not saying it so much.
But at the end of the day, everything's energy, right,
so it all comes together.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
Yeah. Man, hey, look like, take a moment from the heart, man,
When you say everything's energy, man, what do you mean
by that? So?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I mean plain and simple, like no woo wu fluff, right,
And it's not religion it's it's practice, right, It's energy
is you can channel energy, you can feel and everyone
feels energy, right, things like man like people can tune
(47:59):
themselves like a radio energy right, Yeah, to a higher station,
the high vibrations and all the things, the frequency because
you you get you become a tuned right to certain frequencies.
And everybody has their own that their tune is just
a little different. But you can you can make it
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better or you can make it worse.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, It's like it's like when you're I like to
always see with the with the whole radio metaphor, it's
like when you're going through the channels and you can
hear the music of a station, but it's still kind
of distorted, right, and then when you fine tune it
and you get to that right, you know, don't touch it, right,
that's kind of like what you're talking about. It just
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fine tuning it, right. You know. It's always there, right,
I mean, it's always there.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Every living thing carries energy, so everyone's felt it. Everything
from like the vibe in the room after a fight
or some sort of event, right, the electricity in the
air before for a storm, that's a big one, Like
you feel it and the gut feeling that makes the
hair on the back of your next stand up or
the hair on your arm stand up, you get the
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chills even when you tell stories.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I mean that's energy. Yeah, man, yeah, I love it.
Then where do you when I say where do you
think you're from? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah?
To an extent, to an extent, So let me be clear.
I'm not asking like where were you born? The state
you're from, hometown? Like do you think you are you?
Either some people think that they're from here earth, I
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was born in Texas that type of deal. Or some
people think there's somewhere else where. Do you fall into that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I fall into the more of the somewhere else like like,
I mean whatever you want to call it, heaven, whatever.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I think that that's where we belong. And why do
you feel that when I think that's where we're going to? Yeah, idea,
that's home. Why do you feel that way? Is something?
Is it just based off everything that you've learned thus far?
Is it just hasn't been feeling now.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
Okay, so this is saying this is the caveat I've
had a near death experience. The reason I say I've
had one is because I was different when it was over.
That's why I say I had one. Because I didn't
have the I walked with Jesus in the garden, you know,
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I didn't have that experience. I didn't have the the
come to the light, you know, all that experience. But
what did happen to me is when I came back,
things were just different. They looked different, everything was different.
And I now, since I was nineteen, I've been able
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to see auras around you.
Speaker 1 (50:50):
Do you remember any did of that near near death?
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Okay, I just remember being actually before I you know,
the lights went out. I just remember being real calm
and real peaceful and just like, oh, wh shit, this
is it? Yeah, freaking out, wasn't you know? I drowned
is what happened, and I just could not get to
the to the surface. So I kind of just giving
up to an extent, like I'm fighting the I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (51:16):
To win here.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
And as soon as that happened, it's like this calm
came over me and I just remember everything coming in
and that was it.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
And then I remember waking up puking off the side
of a zodiac. But he's alive.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
He's alive, right, hey, man, But I don't remember any snippets, Like,
there's no like dreams that I've had, right right, nothing
but the feeling, but the feeling that I you know,
I came back, right, Yeah, but I've had this I
guess you could call it ability now. And I also
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feel energy different, meaning I am attuned.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah do it? Well? You did you start doing the
reiky stuff after you're near death? Yeah? After that, because
I you know, I was never that guy.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, this is all in the focus focus and you know,
we stuff, but that happened later, but I got into
that and you know it's real.
Speaker 1 (52:19):
Yeah, absolutely, man, absolutely. I like the fact, you know,
whatever whatever that experience did to you, even though I
was never there to Winn's it, I can tell that today.
As I know you, you are a very humble man,
and you do a lot of things with the foundation
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of what I consider our essence, which is love. Man. Yeah,
everything that you do is with love and ericthing, you know,
And I like that watch.
Speaker 3 (52:49):
Yeah, yeah, that's one of those things that kind of
not worth it otherwise, you know. Like yeah, and I
really I used to be such an angry person, so
angry really and like fought a lot and that was
that kid man, it was the guy like I felt,
I felt like, what's that guy's name character Vin Diesel, Okay,
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knock around guys man, Wow, okay, angry all I wanted?
Speaker 1 (53:14):
Yeah, and I was.
Speaker 3 (53:17):
I've been at so many, can't I don't even know
I got it out of my system, I guess. But
I was never the guy that started the fights, but
I jumped into a lot of them.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
You jumped into a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (53:29):
Because I always had those buddies that were And I
don't know if that was like me trying to be
like the sheep dog or whatever, you know, different life man,
taking care of my guys, taking care of you guys.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, it was always a good excuse to you know,
be be something. And you know, it sounds like based
off of what you just said, it sounds like you're
still doing that, but you're doing it differently. Now. You're
doing it differently, and you and you and you resonate
better with with the way you're doing things now.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm always trying to like heal people at this point,
like that's just what I want to do, you know.
Speaker 1 (54:03):
I mean you're a wiki master. I mean, yeah, you're
definitely healing. But yeah, oh oh yeah, that's right, right, No, no,
for for folks, just you know, uh, you know, well, Ben,
explain why is it that you don't like that master time?
Because I'm never.
Speaker 3 (54:19):
You're never a master of anything, period, You're just not.
And as soon as you think you are, you're doing
something wrong. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I love that's
for everything. That's for everything and everyone. And as soon
as you think that you are a master at something
like yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
Balls on this guy says he's a master, you know
what I mean. Somebody's always better, right, and you can
take that to the.
Speaker 3 (54:43):
Bank everywhere, and whether you're religious or not doesn't matter.
Somebody is always better than you at something that whatever
your best thing is, there's always somebody better.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Absolutely is that. And that's just drive man. Yeah. Is
that an ego thing? If you you think so? So?
Do you consider ego as a negative part of you? No?
I don't. It Just when it needs to be controlled, Okay,
it's not other people's business, I mean, And that's how
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I that's how I kind of think of it.
Speaker 3 (55:19):
You know, I've always been but I've always tried to
be you know, action not words, and I don't. I
always find that usually when people brag about stuff like that,
usually it's bullshit. I mean not always, but you know,
it's one of those things like I just I've done
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a lot in my life. Man, I'm fifty one years old,
but I've done so much. I've had so many different jobs, professions,
and I this is the thing I just can't stop
diving in. So it I get I f add right period,
and I just go from thing to thing to thing,
and I circle back to a lot of things. But
I just know enough to be dangerous about a lot
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of things, right, Yeah, And so I've dealt with the
you know, loose lips and I say things and put
things out in the universe that it's not necessarily wrong,
but it's nobody's business nor do they want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
So I've learned that humility is the key. You just
you don't talk about a lot of these things, and
then in turn, if you don't talk about them like that,
that they don't affect you negatively. That's how I have
what I've come to understand, And you're not giving away
your energy, Like how many times have you seen people
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that have these dreams right, and they go around and
they tell everybody every detail about their dream. Then they
never ever ever do anything right. And they might have
this dream forever, but in their mind, and.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is part of the issue.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
In their mind, they've already done it because they talked
about it, made it real, right, it's energy and their
their minds. In their minds, they've already done it, so
they don't need to actually do it.
Speaker 1 (57:07):
Yeah, And the message was for the dream what everyone
called it was for them, and they they had even
took the time to to to dissect it for themselves
because they're just talking about it like a movie that
they watched the other day. And then your truest self
is like, wow, okay, what was the point of that.
You know, I've already lived this off. Why would I
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put all the effort in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (57:34):
It's one of those things that I've learned is to
not talk about what I'm like, don't get unless it's done,
don't talk about it right.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
So yeah, yeah, you know what, that's a good point
because like one thing that I've done with my family
for for years, and my parents would do this with us,
is that whenever we are going from a destination from
point A to point B unless you need to know.
We don't tell people, hey, we're going to to Brazil.
Needs to know that, you know, when we get there,
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then you may be like, hey, we're in Brazil and right,
but if you're because we because we believe that if
there's not everybody's gonna be happy that you're going on
vacation and there's not to be just one negative thought
can really interfere with your whole you know, situation from
point A to point to point B. So so yeah,
I it's likely to be brought up.
Speaker 3 (58:23):
So one of my big things is entrepreneurship. And so
how many times have you brought up a business idea
to people and all you hear is why it won't work?
Speaker 1 (58:33):
Yeah? Speak it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
If you get hit with all that negative nonsense, you know,
you're in the middle of starting a podcast or starting
a new vlog or whatever, you know, doing this that
or the other thing, it's like, you'll hear me tell
you I'm making a documentary, but I'm not going to
tell you what it's about, right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (58:55):
Yeah, So it's those things that that especially with creative
work because so many people in this world are not
creative and they just don't get it. They don't get it, like, man,
you know, everybody's got a podcast, and this is why
your podcast is going to fail. I mean how many
time you hear that shit?
Speaker 1 (59:13):
Right?
Speaker 3 (59:13):
And dude, nobody wants that in their life. So you
got to learn to you know what it was the
Navy say, oh, loose lips, sink chips.
Speaker 1 (59:22):
That's this too.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
That is this absolute thing is that if you got
these ideas, folks, just go do it, hold on to them,
write them down, Jez, write them down, write them down,
or make a memo note. I mean you got it
all now, I mean yeah, never with this thing. Yeah,
you know, and then cultivate that and go do it.
Speaker 1 (59:44):
Stop don't don't tell everybody what you're gonna do. Why
why are you the good idea? Ferry? Well, there's a
lot of people that believe that if by telling people
these great ideas, they look they look smart, they look creative,
but it really doesn't like it. Maybe it's gratifying for
a moment, Hey I had this great idea, and then
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everyone's like, oh yeah, that's pretty cool. And then there
and then it's like, are you going to do it? Well,
I mean and it stops there. Yeah, I don't even
know how to start them. I started, but it's a
great ideal, you know, Well, I'm gonna do it. I'm
taking her freaking idea. I'm out, what do you call it?
Idea fairy? Yeah, great idea fairy. Well, so I do.
Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I'm actually so, I'm a partial owner in a company
and that's what I kind of am to that at
this point. It's my retirement plan.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah yeah, but my job is I'm kind of just
a good idea fairy. The Really, you're that guy. I'm
that guy.
Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
So if it works for you, I come. I just
you know, yeah, I love that stuff. I love coming.
I love solving problems and business yeah yeah yeah. Business
is solving problems. Yeah, whether it's a product post, yeah yeah,
all these things you're just solving problems or answering questions
or even you know, running.
Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I love that. I love that. I love that, Bennett,
as we wrap up the show, because you know, as podcasts,
we could just go on forever and everything for sure.
So yeah, I just looked at the clock when you
said I was like, holy no, no, no, it's yeah.
We're good on We're good on time and everything. But
you know, like I got man, what I have to
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do better on is a lot of my episodes are
like super long. I mean no, yeah, yeah, a lot
of mine is super long, my longest about this long, Yeah,
about where we're at. Yeah, I'm usually pretty good about
the hour. Yeah, I'm talking to exactly exactly. But yeah,
I just I just like talking to people and just
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hearing their story and everything. I mean so so, but
I have to understand that you know what this is,
and sometimes short commerceations are just enough and people want more,
they'll ask for more. So so folks, I am. I
am trying my best. I'm trying my best. And folks,
(01:02:11):
if you enjoy a long podcast, let me know, put
it in the comment, you know, give me some feedback
and everything. If if you listen to my show and
you and you like a shorter version of something, let
me know, give me an example, say, hey, episode so
and so and so, you know, just again, I'm all
about again. I do this podcast as a labor of love.
(01:02:33):
So I don't get I'm making money. Yeah really, Ben, Yeah,
same with you and everything. We we we're we're doing
the work, we're putting in the time to to talk
to interesting people and have these great conversations for well,
primarily it's for us, you know, it's therapeutic for us
(01:02:55):
and everything, So we don't talk our families ear offs
and things like that, right right, you know. And then
on the other point, on the other side of things,
it's for you guys, you know, like you guys now
have a place. You go to Broadcasting Seeds or you
go to Beyond the Frequency three sixty nine, and you
go and listen to these stories, these experiences and learn
(01:03:18):
about these new healing modalities, whatever the case is. But
anytime that you find something interesting, I ask you, guys,
help me out, give me some feed some feedback, throw
down some comments. Go to Broadcasting Seeds, listen to his show,
drop some comments as well. We love all that stuff.
That's how we make the show better for you guys, right, Bennett, always,
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all the time, absolutely, And we don't get nearly enough feedback.
Speaker 3 (01:03:43):
I wish, you know, maybe we get some right but not,
I don't know. I guess I have to think about
it because I'm a guy that does so, you know,
I like subscribe and comment.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Yeah, like I'm told, like I'm told and everything you know,
so so like sub right, yeah, yeah, no, no, let's
let's yeah, let's do it. Let's do it here, folks.
You know, if you're enjoying the episode, like and subscribe,
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Subscribe to the channel because there's probably gonna be more.
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And let's get it. Let's get it out there, right.
That's too funny, Bennett. Let's let me ask you these
six questions I ask all my guests, and there is
no right wrong answer. It just yours. First question, Beyond
all the knowledge and experiences that you've gained thus far,
what still leaves you in all or makes you question everything? Oh? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
That is just the the perceived and I'll say this,
the perceived expansiveness of all of this, right, because at
the end of the day, we don't know what's going
on for sure. Do we know that there's a universe
that continues forever infinitely or is that all just right
here right? So that the perception of it just being
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could be so expansive like this overloads.
Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I guess that's the way I'm going to answer that.
What is the ultimate purpose of life? Ultimate purpose to life?
Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
I think for us on this planet right now, at
this time, it's to experience and to learn what that
feels like and live your life, right, And I don't
know if you continue to you know, have other lives,
because who knows, a reincarnation, there's some very compelling evidence
for it that you know, there's like this spot where
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we go and then we volunteer to go down again.
Speaker 1 (01:06:20):
And learn.
Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Again, it's not even volunteer. You choose, it's your choice.
I feel like learned. So to me, I'm going to
learn Everything that you know sings to me, hits me
with that frequency. And if that's the case, that's what
I think we're here for right now.
Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
For sure, what in your definition and your current understanding,
what is God?
Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
I my current understanding is that God is definitely an entity,
an all knowing, all powerful kind of literal you know
it could be because I get this kind of you
know it is it. He's everywhere, It's everywhere. That that
that it's the disource I guess you would say of
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all this energy. And I think it all comes down
to believe it or not. I think it all comes
down to love. And like that frequency, so it speaks
to me.
Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
And that's a good seguete to my next question, which
is what is love? What is love? I think love
is the ability to.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
Ability. It's not the right words. Love is frankly caring
about something more than you care about yourself. I think
at its base level. Yeah, I think that's how I'm
going to answer that.
Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
And then if you could go back to talk to
little Bennett, what would you say to him.
Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Man, get out of it, like what it just the
whole situation that I grew up in, I got you,
so get out of it, like so much. I wouldn't
change with so much I would. So it's hard to say,
you know, I think one of it's the biggest. Let's
let's change my answer. That's art of it. But I
think the biggest thing would be that literally just stop
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sweating the small shit, like there's so much that just
doesn't matter so much, most of the things don't matter,
and focus on you know, really like thing is that
they're close to you, whether you know your kids, your spouse,
your girlfriend, boyfriend, whatever, the people in your zone. And
that doesn't mean they're your family necessarily either, but really
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focus on the people in your life and not the bullshit.
There you go, and then at work and people find
you broadcasting seeds is YouTube all the places right, all
the podcast places, all the I think YouTube. I think
I'm unrumbled mostly, and then you know all the audio
and then yeah, just type it into the Google machine.
Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
It'll take you there. The Google machine so old school, yes,
right right, go to the YouTube.
Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
And Ben, what's one last thing you'd like to just
say to the audience that's watching him hearing you on
this on.
Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
The don't don't limit yourself because of what you think
you can or can't, or you know what limits people
have put on you, because that's usually what it is.
Don't limit yourself to to what you do or who
you Thank you, you know what you think you can accomplish,
because trust me and accomplishment way more than you think
you can.
Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
You just got to do it, so execute, execute, spoken
like a like a military man. Yeah, well, Bennett, it was.
It was an absolute privileged and honor for you gifting
me your time to come on my show and speak
to my audience. And hopefully this conversation has done what
the other episodes should have done to folks, which is
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trigger a remembrance of who they truly are before the
world convinced them otherwise. And and folks, again I told
you earlier, like subscribe right the show, go go check
out you know broadcasting seeds on his on his social
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If you guys like Cryptid, Bigfoot or just anything in between. Right,
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and again, thank you for continue to support my show
and all the love on social media's a lot of
you have been giving me a lot more comments and
feedback as of late. I appreciate all of that. I
respond to the ones that continue to respect the guests
to respect me as well, and just understand that no
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one's picking sides on what we believe in. We all
have what I didn't call it a belief, I always
call it an understanding. We all have a current understanding
of our current situation, of our reality, and a lot
of these guests, to include myself, are just speaking from
what we currently understand. You know, it's fun, right, So
if you like it and you enjoy it, show that
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love and support us hubbies. Smaller podcasts grow and extend.
And with that being said, folks, as a reminder you,
I see you, I hear you, I am you. Continue
to ask questions, don't be afraid to pull back the
current and take a deeper look. Push forward, always reaching
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beyond the frequency