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September 2, 2025 โ€ข 112 mins
In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Allecia Maine shares her profound journey into the world of animal communication and energy healing. With over 25 years of experience, she discusses her unique ability to connect with animals on a soul level, revealing the unseen language of energy that transcends words. From her early aspirations of becoming a vet to her transformative experiences with Qigong and acupuncture, Dr. Maine illustrates how her path unfolded through a series of spiritual awakenings and connections with animals.

The discussion also delves into the significance of crop circles, past life connections, and the scientific principles underlying her work, emphasizing the interconnectedness of all life and the importance of understanding energy in healing. In this enlightening conversation, Dr. Allecia Maine shares her journey of self-discovery and the profound connection between humans and animals. She discusses the significance of fascia tissue in healing, the telepathic communication she experiences with animals, and the impact of her work on both animals and their owners. Through her show, Animal Healer TV, she aims to educate others about the healing power of energy and the importance of reconnecting with the unified field. The discussion emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to health and the transformative experiences that arise from understanding and listening to our animal companions.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Animal Communication
03:08 Dr. Allecia Maine's Journey Begins
08:45 The Awakening of Healing Powers
14:42 Experiencing Connection with Dolphins
17:01 The Agreement with Animals
22:42 First Proof of Communication
29:27 Understanding Animal Perspectives
32:22 Continual Learning and Growth
33:50 Awakening to New Realities
35:15 Understanding the Tao and Quantum Physics
38:08 The Human Experience and Animal Connection
38:56 Communicating with Animals on a Deeper Level
42:43 The Journey of Healing and Intuition
45:34 The Path to a PhD and Animal Insights
51:00 The Science of Inquiry and Animal Wisdom
01:00:34 The Quest for Truth in Animal Communication
01:01:09 Understanding Animal Behavior Through Physical Health
01:04:10 The Connection Between Physical Alignment and Behavior
01:06:15 Exploring Fascia Tissue and Its Role in Healing
01:09:00 Learning from Animals: A New Approach to Knowledge
01:10:36 The Importance of Gut Brain Connection
01:12:38 Experiencing Life Lessons Through Animal Companions
01:12:50 The Journey of Animal Reincarnation
01:13:05 The Science of Fascia and Energy Flow
01:16:49 Current Work and Future Directions in Animal Healing
01:25:22 The Complexity of Modern Medicine
01:26:24 Telepathic Communication with Animals
01:29:06 Understanding Energy and Healing
01:32:59 The Role of Fascia in Animal Health
01:37:38 Experiencing Animal Communication
01:43:08 The Journey of Healing and Connection
01:44:10 Reflections on Life and Purpose

Connect with Dr. Allecia Maine:
Website: AlleciaMaine.com
Facebook: The Telepathy Tails and The Animal Heeler
Youtube: https://youtube.com/c/theanimalheeler

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A folks, it's Caesar pragand hosts of Beyond the Frequency
three sixty nine. So I just wanted to take a
moment before we start this episode to just let you
guys know that this one was a special one for me.
It is pretty long, so I hope some of you
can stay tuned throughout the duration of this episode. And
the reason it was so long was because I wanted
to make sure that you had the opportunity to get

(00:21):
to know a little better my guest, doctor Alisha Maine.
Now doctor Alisha Maine is telepathic and she speaks to
animals and folks, this isn't just a regular episode where
she talks about talking to animals and how she does
it and that's it. I've actually had the privilege and
the honor and the opportunity to have Alisha do a

(00:44):
telepathic review or reading, if you will, and my cats,
my personal casts, the ones that live with me, and
it was a great session. And folks, I have to
tell you this, I'll be very transparent. Alisha had no
idea anything about me, my wife, my kids, and my cats,
and through talking with one of my cats, his name

(01:07):
is Ziggy, and I'll put a photo right here for
you guys to see. By talking to Ziggy, I found
out that embrace yourself here. My cat's an alien. My
cat's not of this planet. I know how it sounds,

(01:27):
trust me, I felt the same way. But the confirmation
for my family was the fact that without knowing anything
about us, Ziggy, our cat, was able to tell doctor
Alicia Maine a lot about this family, a lot about
our personalities individually, about the things that he needs, wanted,

(01:52):
the things that he's aware of, his observations. He had
a lot to say, and folks, my cat was waiting
for the opportunity to be heard. And I just learned
a whole lot. And at the end of all of this,
I'm being very transparent with you. It has changed the

(02:15):
lives and the dynamic within our family between myself, my wife,
our two cats, and our two kids. We don't see
the cat the same we see we're more connected. And
this has something to do with something called foster tissue,
which I never heard before, and doctor Alicia Main will

(02:35):
explain that to you on this episode. So bottom line, folks,
if you have a pet and you want to know
more about your pets, you want to know how they
feel Are they healthy? Are they happy? Are they content?
Is there anything that you need to know about your pet?

(02:57):
It's possible with people like I guess today doctor Alicia Maine.
So if you're willing to take the journey and stay
tuned to this episode, please take notes reach out to
doctor Alisha Mane in the description below, and you'll be
pleasantly surprised. I know I was, my family was, and

(03:20):
it definitely has changed our lives. And with that said,
enjoyed the show.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Okay, so I get from the two of them, and
I kind of had asked them. I was like, all right, guys,
I'm only gonna work on one of you at a time,
So who wants to get worked on first? And I
just kept seeing Ziggy like Ziggy was just like me, Me,
like work with me. So we're gonna work with Ziggy
and Caesar. You're gonna also be able to keep an

(03:52):
eye Colby Kolbe might even come over.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
I have no idea do you want me to do
you want do you want me to bring them both
together with like like snacks or anything.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, I'm just gonna say, like right now, Ziggy sort
of like I don't know I want to do this first. Okay,
so we're gonna start with Ziggy. So, Ziggy, you are adorable.
Oh my god, he's really really cute. He's very he's unique. Like,
have you ever wondered if Ziggy was like from another planet?

(04:24):
Because he's thought about his name. Ziggy started us the
David Okay, so we joke and say he's the kiddy
from Mars. Okay, perfect because he is so clear. He's like,
I don't know if I'm really from here, like even
the shape of his head. I was like, you, little guy,
are very interesting and I don't even know if you're
from here.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
What if I told you that everything you know is
just the beginning. Beyond the veil of the ordinary lies
a realm of hidden knowledge, ancient wisdom, and untapped potential.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
A place what consciousness expands, reality bends, and the impostile
becomes possible. You weren't meant to stay asleep. You were
meant to awaken. Open your mind, remember who you truly are,

(05:19):
and step with me beyond the frequency three sixty nine. Hey,
before you start the episode, if you're on youtubeer rumble
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Speaker 1 (05:29):
Hit that bell you want make a comment, go for it.
It's America. If you catch me on Spotify or Apple Podcast,
give me with those five stars. I appreciate the support.
Let's start the show, all right, folks, Welcome back to
Beyond the Frequency through sixty nine. I'm your host, Caesar Pagid.
What if I told you your animal has been speaking
to you this whole time, and not only can they

(05:52):
hear you, they can feel you in ways that go
far beyond words. Today's guest lives in that space. Doctor
Alisha Maine, or also known as the Animal Healer. She
has spent over twenty five years working in the unseen,
where energy becomes language and healing happens across miles. She's
transformed wild mustangs without ever touching them, help pets release

(06:14):
trauma they've carried for years, and open the channel between
humans and animals that feels nothing short of magical. This
isn't training, This is connection on a soul level, and
once you hear it, you can't go back. Doctor Alicia Maine,
Welcome to the show. How are you.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I'm really good. I have like chills hearing that.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, Well, I'm glad. I'm glad. It's it's just, you know,
I like to do a little small intro from my
part about my guests. But obviously I'm going to allow
you to fill in any any gaps that the audience
needs to have. But let me just start by telling
you by, you know, letting you know that I appreciate
you being here. I am, I am happy. I'm sitting

(06:56):
in gratitude. I'm thankful because you have gifted me your
time to spend to have a conversation with me, my audience,
and we're all going to take something away from this.
So thank you, so welcome.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
It is truly my honor. It's my honor, and I
feel like it's my mission, you know. Thank you for
inviting me on and allowing me to fulfill my mission.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I love it. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. We are going to
exchange a lot of energy, a lot of positive, you know, frequencies.
We're going to raise some vibrations, you know, we're gonna
we're gonna heal some people. We're also going to probably
even awaken some folks to many things. So there's going
to be a lot happening today, folks. So just kind

(07:42):
of buckle up and turn up the volume a little bit.
If you are in the middle of doing something, take
a break. Sit down. If you're watching on YouTube, sit
down and watch because this is going to be amazing.
So doctor Alisha Maine, and I'm going to call you
doctor Alisha for this episode because you've earned that title, okay, wit.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Which is so crazy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Before I ask you, like
any of these questions about what you do and how
you do it, and folks, just just a little pre
preview sheet talks to animals, all right, so just to
kind of so hold on to that, to that thought,
before we even get deeper into that conversation, why don't
you introduce yourself to the audience for those that already

(08:29):
know you, for those that don't know you, and also
give us a little bit of who were you before
you got into any of this.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Okay, so we'll go back to the beginning. I was
born in the Bronx Bronx House, so I was actually
born in Albert Einstein Hospital, which is will makes sense
a little bit further in. I was always outdoors. I
loved nature. I didn't fully understand a lot of it,
but it spoke to my soul in a way that

(08:59):
I could even verbalized. So when I was five, my
mom asked me, what do you want to do when
you grow up? And I said, I want to be
a vet and I want to help animals heal. And
then school came in and math and science and I
did not get along. And so it's like, there's no
possible way that I can be a vet, Like I

(09:21):
don't have the I don't have the I don't even
understand the math and science, let alone have the grades.
Like when I was in school, and I'll probably honestly
probably get twenty years older than you, although I might
not look at I'm probably probably in that range. We
would get these pages, you know, on the tests, and
they'd have like all these bubble letters, so I wouldn't

(09:41):
even know the answers to anything. I would just sit
in color in the bubble letters. I just nothing. It
didn't make sense. I had no context. We just didn't work.
So I grew up this very athletic. I ended up
becoming a fitness trainer and had nothing on my bucket
list except I'm just going to be an entrepreneur and
a business person. You know, I have intelligence for that.

(10:03):
But I landed up going to college. I graduated with
a degree in marketing and international business, and I had
been working out with a boyfriend for like a year
and a half maybe two years before I graduated, and
business just wasn't it. So I became a fitness trainer,
and so I worked at one of New York City's
like Premiere fitness clubs when it first opened, and it

(10:23):
was amazing. I fell in love with fitness training. I
finally started actually understanding the math and the science because
through what you had to understand about how to calculate,
you know, body fat and all of these things. So
certain things just started clicking. And I loved helping people
get healthy. I loved helping them get fit. I loved

(10:44):
helping them achieve their goals. I loved being so fit,
you know, and working out and working with my body.
And during that time, I met a client who became
like my spiritual mom, and it was just it was
like like as soon as we met at it was
just like this instant connection that I didn't know anything
about spirituality. I didn't know about meditation, I didn't know

(11:08):
about chigong, I didn't know about chiropractic care. I just
normal trainer, bats, carbs, protein and what's your cardio? Like
that was it so she would, you know, as we
were going through training sessions, you would start sharing different
things with me, or she would give me exercises. When
I went home, She's like, you know, before you go
to sleep, like count backwards from one hundred. Just all

(11:30):
these different things that I didn't I didn't even know
wasn't even on my bucket list. So she started working
with a Chinese acupuncturist, and she started training in a
modality called Chigong murdy and therapy, and so some of
our sessions she'd actually do a session with me because
she had to practice and do case studies. And one Christmas,
she gave me the gift of acupuncture. And so I

(11:52):
did not like needles, but I ended up going down
to Chinatown and let this Chinese man who I couldn't
really you understand, stick a whole bunch of needles in me.
And when I was laying on that table for the
first time in my life, and I think at the
time I maybe was like twenty one or twenty two,
it's five floors up and we're two blocks off of

(12:13):
you know, we're in Chinatown, two blocks off a Broadway.
I mean, it is noisy, it's kind of you know,
it's just loud. I'm always in my head. I'm always thinking,
always thinking, always thinking. And there I am on that
table and all of a sudden, like something happened. And
it was almost like the scene in Contact where Jodie
Foster is finally in the thing. Right. Other than that,

(12:35):
it's like and everything just disconnects, right, the chair disconnection's
floating in the air, and I'm just going no idea
what this is. But for the first time in my
life up until that point, I had realized, I'm not
just my brain. You're so used to the brain going
and going and going that you don't even know what
silence is anymore. And so I had that experience of

(12:57):
that silence, and I kept going back. You know, I
didn't I didn't understand the path. I didn't understand I
was supposed to study e chigong with this man. I didn't,
you know. I just kept going. And the more that
I went, I started learning about the body and how
the system actually functions from such a different perspective. And

(13:20):
then I kept studying with him, and I kept learning
about traditional Chinese medicine, and every time I would take
one of his classes where he was teaching about the system.
I mean, it was like these rain drops just kept
hitting my forehead and I'm like, oh my god, that's
what the truth is. Oh my god, that's what the truth.
So when I was fitness training, I was learning a lot,

(13:40):
and that's you know, what you learn to how people
get fit. But I wasn't having the kind of like
consciousness opening understandings and remembrances of how the system as
a whole actually works from an energy and a frequency perspective.
So eventually, within like two years, I started practic to
seeing chigong with him. He's a chigong master from China.

(14:03):
And it was like the most incredible, incredible experience because
while I kept sort of pulling away from societal norms
and cultural stuff and all that, the remembrances, the awarenesses,
the connections of the energy, the understandings I was, I
was like, oh my god, how do we not learn

(14:23):
this in our world? And then that those experiences, It's funny.
I found a picture here. This was me in a
crop circle because I went with him to England because he.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Studies and you'll be you'll be able to You'll you'll
be able to maybe like send me those as like
a screenshot something that.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Put it up and then here's me meditating in a
crop circle. I might have been having accupuncture at the time.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
So let me do something. Let me just get something
straight here again, you're you were in a crop circle, right? Yeah?
Ka in so again talking about and folks, some of
you should already know this, but for those that happen
to come across this podcast and are hearing about this,
a crop circle is what most believe that alien crafts

(15:15):
or some kind of extraterrestrial being has created these symbols
or shapes and they usually happen in these large large
fields in England. Yah.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, up around the world, but England tends to in
the summertime. England tends to have the most of them.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah yeah, And you were laying in one of them,
which happened.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
I slept in one.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Why did you choose to sleep in one?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Because my Chinese, my chigong master, he studies that stuff,
like he understands, like he translates the energetics of that stuff.
So he would spend summers, you know, going to England
for a couple of weeks and he would take some
of his students and I was lucky enough to go
one summer. So he became friendly with a lot of

(16:02):
the farmers and he was studying literally the energetics and
what the healing properties of those crop circles were. So,
you know, we got to visit a bunch of different ones.
We got to sleep and you know you need permission
obviously from the farmer, but we got to sleep in one.
So I got to sleep in a crop circle. I
got acupuncture and a crop circle.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
And we went how did you? How did you guys?
How do you or your or your teacher get notified?
Hey we got a crop circle? Is that? Is that?
How I was?

Speaker 2 (16:32):
There's in England, in those areas in the English countryside.
I mean, there's an entire network of people. You know,
there's an entire network of researchers, farmers. You know, they
all kind of work together, and a lot of the
farmers they will allow researchers in, They will allow people
to come in, you know and visit the circles. And

(16:52):
it just I mean talk about frequency and coding. It's
like I still am unwinding third years later. Things that
get you know, got coded in my system to help
me understand the work that I do today and the
research that I do today, So it's you know, there's

(17:15):
absolutely fake crop circles and how you can tell and
I don't mean this as a diversion since we were
talking about it. They take these long they build these
long plank boards and then they put handles on them
and then they just keep you know, like move another.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
Something.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, like they stamp down the wheat in the field.
But the thing is that that will create a broken
stem in the wheat shaft. Crop circles that actually form
that are the natural formations between I can't say this
with absolute proof. I'm pretty sure from having been in
it and being pretty sensitive to energies. Yep, there's there's

(17:58):
an inter galactic communication, but the ones that are made
through intergalactic communication, the wheat basically just lays down, so
nothing is broken.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nothing like that that. I like that distinction between the two.
I've heard about that. I did hear something about the
whole breaking of the deal, but I didn't really know
they was, you know, man made machines or what.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
There are There absolutely are ones like that, you know.
I think that they were trying to prove like, well,
you know, man could make them. Sure yeah, but they're subtleties.
Intergalactic intelligence is far superior to human and tells we
are not the most intelligent species out there. As a
matter of fact, we're kind of on the lower end,
especially when you're talking about wars and the things that

(18:48):
we're doing to the animals and the planet like and
the people. So that was part of my experience was
going to the crop circles I had as I was
practicing chigong. What reawoken in me was the memory that
I wanted to help animals heal. And so one year,
I think I was practicing tigong for maybe about two years.

(19:11):
They started in nineteen ninety three or ninety four. They
started in nineteen ninety three, and that next year, in
ninety four, a girlfriend called me and she said, oh,
you have to go to Hawaii. I was like, she said,
my friend studied with this animal communicator and she loves dolphins,
and you love dolphins, and she loves teigong and you
love you have to go. When I had no money

(19:32):
go at the time, you know, I was just and
I called the woman who was running it and we
start and she was like, I'm so sorry, it's full
and I thought, all right, but something in my body
is like, you don't understand. I have to be here,
and then all of these sequential things. This is when
I kind of first started understanding about manifestation and that
you can be very very clear with the universe about

(19:55):
a desire or an experience that you want to have.
And then all of these things started falling in place,
like I got the money to go. I went on
the twenty I think it was my twenty seventh birthday.
I met the dolphins. I had an experience with a
dolphin in the ocean that was literally hanging in front

(20:16):
of me and beamed my stomach with energy and I
could feel the golden energy. And I was like, what
are you doing? And she said, what do you think
I'm doing. I'm like, I don't know what. I feel
the golden energy and it's like it basically kind of
shifted my stomach. Because our stomach is actually our first brain.
Our gut is our first brain, not this and when

(20:36):
she did that all it opened up my brain. It's
such a different way from our indoctrinated education of the box,
and we're cut off from all of those frequencies. So
we're cut off from remembering what is true, and that
experience with my teacher Mary Anne Simon's it changed everything
because it's like I was in the ocean with the dolphins.

(20:58):
Dolphins are swimming around in a sleeping pattern, You're getting
themed by all of their you know, sonar, and it
was like for the first it's like the bells and
whistles went off and I was like, oh my god,
this is what I'm here for. I'm here to be
able to help the animals this way. And then that
started my career from I don't know, like thirty two

(21:21):
years ago of professionally communicating with animals and hearing them.
And I made them a deal. I said, listen, if
people are going to pay me money to do this,
I have to hear you in English, like I have
to hear you in my native language so I can
understand how to explain exactly what's taking place and exactly
your perspective and exactly what you understand also about them

(21:44):
about yourself, so that you get helped and that like
people know, there's no way I could know what your
animals telling me.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
I'm not yea and they and I mean wow. So
they these dolphins, they made this agreement was just the
dolphins or what do they speak on behalf of all
the animals that say yep wow.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
It started with the dolphins and that trip, but I
had also taken and the timeframe for me is crazy
because I forget whether I think I had started. I
took a weekend class in New York City with Joanna Bethseer,
and in that I brought my Golden Retriever with me
to that session. And when we had that weekend session,

(22:28):
I had an experience with my Golden retriever that we
were wolves, both of us were wolves in one lifetime.
And I saw us on the top of a mountain,
snow covered mountain ridge, running under the full moon. And
when I came out of that experience and I looked
at my dog and he looked at me, I was like,
because I had never had those days. I mean, I

(22:48):
grew up in the Bronx. My parents were cool, but
they that's not what was their thing. I mean, I
think my mom understood about ESP and I'm sure you
know on some level my dad did too, but it's
not I didn't grow up with any of it.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Well, let me make sure I understand what you just mentioned.
Here regarding the whole wolf vision. So when you said
that you came out of it and you had looked
back at your dog and you had this like ahha moment.
Talk to me about that, that moment when you looked
at your at your at your dog. What what? Why
was it that you were so shocked? What he did

(23:21):
he start talking to you?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Or I was shocked because when I went into the meditation,
I wasn't expecting to see that memory.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I wasn't expecting to remember that I had been a
wolf in a lifetime.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I wasn't expecting that we had known each other before
the lifetime we were currently in.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
It was you and your dog. Okay, I apologized. I
missed that last, that little piece there. Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
So so I wasn't in that life. I was a wolf.
He was the wolf that I was running with. So
when I looked at him and he looked at me,
its sole recognition of I didn't even know that that
was even possible. Yeah, right, like in terms of that

(24:18):
can humans be animals? And can animals be humans? Can we?
So it was an eye opener. And then the next
eye opener that I had, I was in my closet,
cleaning out some stuff and just like changing I think
from like winter clothes to spring clothes. And my golden
retriever Tucson was on the bed and we had gotten
a puppy, a chocolate lab puppy named Barney, and I

(24:40):
was doing stuff and they were right behind me, and
Barney was had his feet like on the bed, but
I knew he couldn't get up, he was still too little.
So I turned over my shoulder and Tucson had his
frisbee and I said, just nonchalantly, I just said, hey,
why don't you give Barney the frisbee then pull him
up on the bed, and I just went back to
do it my clothes. I didn't even it was. It

(25:02):
was one of those like just so matter of fact,
I wasn't even aware of what I was aware of
what I said, but I wasn't actually aware of like
that that could happen, like he could understand sentences and
you know. So I finished my closet and I turn
around and Tucsons laying on the bed and Barney sitting
right in between his front legs, and I just went

(25:24):
I literally kind of fell back in my closet. I
was like, no, this.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Stuff is really starting to get real and kind of weird, right,
because when you come to it from an intellectual perspective
of logic and reason, you're like, right, you know, maybe
it's possible.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
But when you come to it from the perspective of
let go of logic and reason, and this is actually
telepathic communication is the way that all life, I mean
all life, like the air, the water, the trees, the rocks,
the soils, the humans, the animals, everything communicates from that language.
And it's usually pictures or you hear something or you

(26:04):
feel something or you know something. But to actually see
it happen, like because when I was working with Training Tucson,
all the books were like, well you have to use
a certain intonation and you have to they didn't talk
about telepathic communication. Or you can just show each other pictures.
So to actually see it happen blew me away.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah. Yeah, that was your proof. And I'm wondering if
I'm wondering if you know, was that the very first
moment that you realized that you could communicate with with
animals or was it further back?

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well, when I was about five or six, we had
a Dalmatian named Peppy and Peppy had this habit. My
parents would go outside and walk them for like two hours,
when go to the bathroom, come back in the house.
He'd go to the bathroom that was already strike one
against Peppy. But Peppy and I think had a communication
because I remember he took my toy one and so

(27:00):
he took my toy. I know we were having a
party at our house, and I remember a lot of
people were there. Peppi took my toy and I'm like
five or six, and I don't think anything of it,
and I stick my hand on Peppi's throat to get
my toy back. When my father sees this and he
thinks the dog is attacking me, and Peppi got in
trouble and Peppy was no longer in our household a
little while after that. So I did not consciously know

(27:24):
that that's what it was. But when my parents got
divorced when I was about nine, my dad used to
take us to the Bronx Siou all the time, and
I just always had this fascination with the animal. I
have fascination with horses. I had a fascination with the elephants,
with the wolves, with the bears. And it wasn't just like, oh,
this is so cool it it was something inside of

(27:47):
me that didn't actually understand what was taking place, and
I couldn't say that I was communicating with them. Then
I hoped I was, and I you know, I used
to go to the circus for my birthday. That was
the thing, and so I used to watch these animals,
and I was like, I'm going to be a famous
animal trainer someday of wild animals, right, I mean I

(28:07):
never Things have changed a lot since then, and I
don't go to circuses anymore, but it's always been something
that I have always felt more comfortable, safer, more myself
around animals than a lot of humans.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
And then when I started communicating, the first couple of years,
I was in New York City. Then nine to eleven happened,
and then I moved out to Aspen, Colorado just shortly
after nine to eleven, Like if it happened in September.
I moved out to Colorado in December of twenty of
two thousand and one. And then things just kept taking
off and I became a dog trainer. Client asked me

(28:47):
to train a dog like I haven't professionally ever trained
a dog, but it was the first time I got
to use telepathic communication with the dog in a training situation,
and I started seeing how amazingly well it worked, like
she could pick up the pictures.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
So, with this being your first training of a dog,
you're already going into it with a feeling that or
the knowledge that you already felt comfortable that I can
talk to animals. Right, what was the point where you
knew it was real, Like, where it's solidified that, Okay,
I really am doing this.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
It was a session that I did with a smaller
like Jack Russell kind of dog, like maybe a year
or two into when I started professionally communicating and the
dog was sick. They didn't understand. They didn't know, like
we've tried everything, we don't understand why the dog's sick. Now,
I grew up understanding animals cannot see colors. That's what

(29:44):
the science says, right. Well, this dog showed me a
bag that had the colors of purple and orange on it,
and I said to the woman, I don't understand exactly
what this means, but what's the purple and orange back?
She said, well, those are that's the color of his
food bag. Okay, animals are not colorblind, at least not

(30:04):
on the spiritual level, because how would I know. I've
never met the dog. This was only by phone. I
didn't do it by you know, zoom like I do.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Now that's our and just in a re for one second,
that's actually interesting that you mentioned that, at least on
the spiritual level, animals or dogs in this case, are
not color blind, because that's something we all heard, right,
and science, I guess, or whatever it is that determines
that has fed us that information and said, hey, guys,

(30:35):
we've done our experiments, trust our findings. This is where
it is. So to hear another perspective in communicating and
learning these animals from you, and you making that comment
or that statement is very interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Well, it's interesting because I had no idea I was
researching all along, just by telepathically communicating. So he tells
me the dollar of the bag, and he said there's
rat poison in that. He goes, that's why I'm sick.
I was like, excuse me, what right, that's what I said.
That's what I said, And the lady went, oh my god.

(31:13):
I had a feeling it was something with the food,
but I didn't know. I said, well, do not feed
him that because it's contaminated with rat poison. That's why
he's getting sick that, you know, That's why usually if
an animal eats rat poison, like somebody knows that it
was applied, nobody knew because she didn't have anything in

(31:33):
her barn. Yes, she stops feeding the dog the food.
She gets some new food. She calls me back in
a week, she said, he's perfectly fine.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Well, I'm wondering if the dog knew that that was happening,
why did the dog keep eating it because it was
the only food source. Okay, wow, that's interesting. So wow,
I just I just want to take a moment to
ask that. I guess I don't know if it was
a dumb question, but it was just.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Like, here's the most interesting thing that I find about
all of this, right, because remember I started this like
thirty plus years ago, so we progress since then, sort of,
but like thirty plus years ago, people like you what yah, yeah,

(32:18):
you know right, So it's like, no, this is actually real.
But the interesting thing that I find now is like,
but this is what all the indigenous cultures have always
told us and we're talking thousands, if not hundreds of
thousands of years, like this has always been the way
that it is. In the last couple hundred years, we've

(32:40):
diminished animals to commodities things to be able to sell food.
So if you really understand, and that's why a lot
of kids, little kids, but when they make the connection,
oh my god, this turkey is like that live, I
don't want to eat that, right, That's why a lot
of kids already know they can. They're like, I don't

(33:00):
want to eat my friends. But because of the society
that we created, how you're not going to make as
much money if people are like I don't really need
to eat meat, and I don't really want to write.
So a lot of disinformation is not it's not mine.
I didn't discover anything. I just started tapping in and
remembering what the truth is of how the planet actually works.

(33:24):
That's not a convenient perspective when you're running a business
and an industry that makes billions and billions of dollars
off of the splatter of animals, or off of the
sale of animals, or we've somehow forgotten and discind of
like oh it's okay to sell somebody's kids. It's okay
to impregnate a mayor and you know doesn't even know

(33:46):
the father, just inseminator. It's okay to take another mayor's
eggs and impregnate a different mayor because that mayre's in competition.
But then it's that it's it's I mean, as I
started going through it after a long time of doing
and really understanding things from the animal's perspectives, especially having
a wolf dog and especially having a wild mare that

(34:08):
lived on the range and having her and her kids
and understanding things from a totally different perspective, it blew
my mind. So you know, I've gone from not remembering
any of it to being introduced to it again and
starting to remember, to having three decades worth of research

(34:28):
with all different kinds of animals all over the planet.
And I mean the work that I do now, the
quantum and unified field healing I do now, with being
able to see an animal on the screen and do
body assessments like everything was just an evolution of remembering
who I am, who they are, the inner technology that
we possess, what is all of our original language. So

(34:51):
the journey has been just this progressive journey of remembering.
And I'm still remembering like I learn. Every single session
I do, I learned something new and it's not I
remember something more.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And I love that you also made
a comment that you're still learning, right, because I don't want,
you know, we don't want have like folks to think
just one day she just started talking to animals and
here she is, right, I mean this, there's levels to this.
You know, there's totally things that you had to go
to go through and also just the fact that you

(35:26):
had to as you learn things, you probably step back
a little bit and say, is this really happening? Like
you're questioning yourself? Right, talk to me about about those
moments that you've had well.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Laughing, because like when I started, I took a trip
with two girlfriends to Maine, and man is beautiful. I
mean I was like, oh my god, this is why
they call it such a pristine state. You know, you
were right on the water and there was this yellow
like finch kind of bird, and so I was sitting
there and I'm just saying, all right, if this animal

(35:56):
communication stuff is really real, right, and I'm gonna ask
you to go from this branch to this branch.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Yeah, right, he does, and I'm like, all right, all right,
all right, like if this is really, really, really really real,
then go to that brand.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
He does.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
So we did this about fourteen times and he just
was like, you're exhausting.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I was like, so, why was the bird doing it?
Why was he doing it?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Because he was trying to show me, like, hello, this
is real. But at that point in time, I was
kind of, you know, learning about this, practicing it, knowing
in my being that it was real. But you know,
we're indoctrinated pretty well, right, So because I couldn't understand,

(36:47):
I mean, I could observe what was happening, and I
was like, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god,
this is so amazing. But then my conditioned mind kept
going for the logical and reasonable irrational because I was like,
I get that this is happening. I'm observing it happening,
but I'm not. It was like the first time I
realized on this planet, unless they tell you what to think,

(37:11):
you are not supposed to think or recognize anything outside
of that box. It's like the Truman Show, you know.
And so that was really one of those I mean,
I apologize when he laughed, I was like, I'm sorry,
but you know, I was one of those people was
like I need the proof. I need the proof. Like
now I just laugh. When people are like you communicate
with animals, I'm like, you don't, what's matter with you?

(37:34):
Because this is you know, because I have clients that
come to me that are you know, they've seen five trainers,
nobody can get to the room of the problem. They've
been to the vets six times. Blood work shows nothing.
So it's been this progressive remembering starting with my fitness training,
and then going into understanding Chinese medicine and how the

(37:57):
system functions at an energy level, and then practicing chigong
and then recognizing, holy crap, this is quantum physics. Like
quantum physics has only been around for eighty ninety years,
but the Tao has been around for thousands of years.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
Right, you explained to those folks.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Where is the de So the Tao was basically developed
by a philosopher named Laotsu. So we're going back five
thousand years and he started to understand that there is
an energy We talk about frequencies, right, so there is
an energy field. Some people call it God. They called

(38:39):
it the Tao, and the Tao is not a religion.
It's a way of understanding how everything operates on this planet,
like laws of polarity, right, laws of observation of how
things grow, that there is an invisible energy and intelligence.
Some people have named that God. But you know how

(39:01):
polarized everybody is now with religion and God. So the
doubt is totally non polarizing. It explains how everything in
the universe actually works. So it really kind of is
for at least this five to six thousand year time
period that we're in right now. It really gives an
explanation of the science of observation and understanding how everything

(39:25):
is energy and everything is interconnected. The quantum science is now,
you know, quantum physics, quantum entanglements, quantum mechanics. They're basically,
in modern day terms, marketing something that has always been known.
And I just looked there sometimes and I laugh. I'm like,
oh my god, if these physicists would just study cheging

(39:46):
like you know that, like, because remember too, in the
last couple hundred years, all of our sciences have become
very reductionistic. So when we talk frequency, your podcast is
called Beyond the Frequency three six 's nine. Right, So
when Tesla was explaining to them how things actually work,
they needed to quantify it in a way that they

(40:09):
could use it for profit exactly. And Tesla was freeing everything, saying,
what are you guys doing? You know, we were given
free energy. I mean the past couple of days, I've
had these interesting awarenesses about like the utility companies and
taxes and the things that have become like these almost
membership models you got to play pay to play when

(40:32):
everything was given to us for free. I mean, think
about how the animal operate. My wild mayre wasn't like
need water, let's turn it on the basset. The herd
was like cool, we gotta find the water source.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
And that's interesting. How like we we as humans, Homo sapiens,
we are the only species on this planet that has
to pay to live?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Right, Like that's that was a pretty damn good indoctrination,
fir to question all that we have the potential. We
do have the potential. We are clearly not achieving our
highest potential as humans.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Absolutely, I completely agree with this. So let me let
me ask you this question here. So for those that
never experienced what you what you do talking to their
pets and other animals. How do you actually connect with
an animal on the soul to soul level, Like, tell
us a little bit about what's happening in that moment.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
A great question, Like I'm not you know, it's like
kind of thought about it sometimes, but I'm like, why
question it. I just do it.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
I try for those that need.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Please, I'm going to back it up a little bit
because even the people that would go, well, I don't
communicate with my anime. My animals can't talk. I will
guarantee you that every single person that has an animal
that they take care of, because I don't even want
to call them path an animal, that they are a
guardian too. Every single person has had a moment where

(41:59):
all of a sudden they were like, what something just happened,
and I just I felt something or I heard something
or I saw something, and then they went animals can't talk.
I guarantee it. So what I am. What I'm going
to how I'm going to answer your question is there's
not anybody on the planet that hasn't experienced it. They
just didn't know what they were experiencing or maybe what

(42:21):
to make of it. Because again that indoctrination box is really,
really thick, and even if they had their own experience
of it, they're going to default back to animals can't talk.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Right. I love that answer. That makes me exact.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
So then the next part of that to fully answer
your question is, well, how does it happen we are
energy or or anything. Even before we're frequency, it's energy.
The way that that energy moves becomes the frequency and
the signal that that particular energy in Caesar, in Alicia,

(42:57):
in my dog, in my horse, it becomes the frequency
becomes that signal that's being given out how it resonates.
But at the base level, we are all energy. We're
all cells, trillions and trillions of cells that coagulate. Now,
one thing that physics is telling us now, which the
Doo has known because it says everything is energy, everything's connected. Well,

(43:18):
now physics is saying everything is like ninety nine point
nine percent energy. Okay, no shit, Sherlock, you guys are
a little late to the show. So what happens now is, Okay,
we've been cut off from all of that awareness, right,
even though it's true, even though it's what we are,
we've been a doctrinate no you're you're gonna know what
we want you to know, because it's a conditioned system

(43:42):
that likes to profit off of people not remembering who
they are. So if ninety nine point nine percent of
stuff is energy, and think about it, what do we
typically focus on the physicality of each other? Physicality of right,
that's the thing we focus on. But pull back for
a minute and it's like, well, wait a second, there's
a whole lot more space than there is actually physicality. Yeah,

(44:06):
and all of that is an interconnected, unified energy field.
And there is a part of physics that is talking
about the unified energy field. So for me, how I
got to it was because I knew nothing about energy.
And then I have, you know, this woman that's teaching
me how to meditate and like get in touch with things.

(44:28):
And then I have chiropractic appointments and I feel different.
It takes me a little while to connect that I
feel different because my energy was getting stuck inside my body,
and then when it opened back up, I felt better.
Then I started understanding about chigong, and every single time
I practice these gentle movements, I feel more and more relaxed.

(44:49):
I feel my energy flowing better. I feel like, why
am I starting to hear the animals now? Why? You
know precognition, Like why am I seeing things before they happen?
And deja bou? And why was it when I was
in this crop circle that I could feel things, that
I could remember things that I never ever was educated
or taught about. So now I start realizing that everything's energy.

(45:14):
I start communicating with the animals, I start doing somebody
work with the animals, and I'm like, this is crazy.
This animal wasn't feeling well. How are they feeling better?

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Now?

Speaker 2 (45:26):
I was in my middle let's say I was probably
like twenty five or twenty six. My golden retriever had
gotten hurt and so he went to catch a frisbee
and he landed straight down on his tailbone, like his
feet did not catch him. So we walked home, but
then he got paralyzed and I flipped out like I
was like, I don't know. I mean, he's only like four.

(45:47):
I don't know what's going to happen. So when to
a doctor that was chiropractor, went to a vet that
also did acupuncture, So we started there and then we
were at my ex husband's house for a couple of
days because it's just easier than having to be in
an apartment and go up and down an elevator. So
I started doing I just started getting this awareness from him.

(46:07):
He said, remember that she going already in therapy that
your friend was doing. He's like, why don't you touch
my back on those points. I was like, okay, and
I started doing exactly what I remember her doing to
my body. I started doing this and he starts like
moving his back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
I'm going yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
And then by the fourth day he got up and
you know, energy was kind of stuck for a while,
but he started moving and then he lived a completely
normal life. And that's kind of so the animal communication
piece was one part the working with bodies and wait
a minute, Like, I'm adactor, right, So I don't know
the anatomy, the physiology, the waving more, but I'm understanding energy.

(46:54):
And even though I don't understand all the parts that
my friend is touching on my body, I'm like, but
something intuitive was really waking up. And I was like,
I'm nothing to lose, right, And when I saw that happen,
when I saw him get up, you know, you sit
there and you think about miracles, but miracles actually have
a science. When you understand the energy at that level,

(47:16):
which pretty much all of western medicine has been shut
down to, you start to go, well, wait a second,
it's not that you don't it's not that there's nothing
else to do. You just don't know what else to
do because you weren't taught about that. So you know, here,
I am following this path of from five years old.
I wanted to help animals. Heel had no clue because

(47:38):
again the box. The only way I'm going to help animals,
Heel is if I'm a bet, that's it. And then
this path starts unfolding for me. And I have to
say too, the path unfolded not because I was so
joyous and so happy and everything was so wonderful. I

(47:58):
was miserable being on this planet. I wanted to die,
like I didn't want to be here anymore. I had
no idea why. I had a car accident when I
was sixteen, and I was on the right side of
the road and I looking at the radio for too long,
and I hit the lip of the highway and my

(48:20):
car careened into the divider, and literally like watching my
sixteen year old life flash before me, before my eyes,
there's oncoming traffic. I smashed into the divider total the car,
and somehow the car has enough spin to land me
on the side of the road facing the traffic and

(48:40):
I didn't get touched, but I had this life flash
before my eyes, which I had never had before. And
I'm pretty sure when I looked back, I didn't know
any of this at the time. I'm pretty sure I
had whiplash.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Do you think that you had like a like a
near death. Maybe.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I definitely had my life flashed before my eyes. Now
I have also had near experiences. I've had three of them,
but this was like the first one that it was
like because I was so miserable and so upset, and
I had my life flashed before my eyes and I
had this shaking of my brain. I was probably depressed

(49:16):
before that, but I kind of like something got shook
in me. And I remember my father and I used
to have these conversations, and I was like, what's the
point of life? Because it was the first time I
was like, oh my god, I could actually die, right
I didn't. I wasn't scratched, the car was totaled, but
something got shaken to start asking these questions at sixteen,

(49:40):
why are we here? What are we doing here? What
is the point of even being here? And my dad
would do his best answer you know that question. But
that's really what started my journey. It was the depression.
It was the being absolutely miserable, like not even understanding

(50:00):
why am I crying so much? What? What is wrong
with me? You know that these were not things that
I had considered before, not even things that I thought about.
And so when I look back now, so many things
make sense because I was being led on a path.
So even when you know, working with the dog, I

(50:21):
wasn't sitting there going, oh yeah, I remember, I wanted
to be an you don't wanted to help animals heal.
I just kept following it. I just kept following it.
And as I followed it, when I finally got my PhD,
and that was not on my bucket list at all,
I was like, me, have a PhD. That's hilarious. That's
that's really hilarious. But that would be the great irony

(50:42):
of being on this planet.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
So you were you were given your path by I guess,
with the assistance of animals, which is the last thing
you'd ever thought about.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Doing and never have thought about it.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
That is that is huge the whole getting the PhD situation.
You needed to get that in Orris so you can
is that.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
No, so I'm not a vet. I have a PhD
in philosophy. A degree is holistic life counseling. And when
I called, I had done a master's. So it's a
metaphysical university. So it's not like your MIT and your Harvard.
They are very what I have learned, what I have discovered.
There are very strict and rigorous studies done on a

(51:29):
lot of things. Because a lot of the science is
totally paid for. They want the science to turn out
a certain way so they can conduct certain research so
that they can say this was scientifically back. But the
problem is they call it rigorous study, but they've separated
science into like this mechanistic thing that they show you

(51:51):
a piece of paper and say this is the analysis
and this is what I have and then these are
the side effects they took out. Spirit. Yeah, they there
science and this is a This will really kind of
blow your mind with how the PhD happened. Science what
its real premise is, it's a process of inquiry. So
you have a hypothesis, you set up a study to

(52:14):
test out does that hypothesis really jive? And then you
record your results, and based on your results, you're like, hey,
this is either helpful or harmful. So how they've gotten
away with the COVID crap with the results are proving
how harmful it is. You cannot call it science if
you do not report your results properly. But the trust

(52:35):
the science. I don't trust your science. I trust the
science and the animals. So science has always been like,
if we go back five thousand years, the monks lived
in the forest, they studied everything. How Chinese medicine even
came about was the study of the animals in the forest.
What things did they eat when they didn't feel well,
how did they stretch? How did they teach their young

(52:57):
when they weren't feeling well? What plants did they go
out after?

Speaker 1 (53:00):
What?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You know, how did this whole system work naturally not synthetically.
So as I was growing and learning and understanding all
of these things, like over time, remembering when they asked
me to do this PhD study, I had done a
previous master's degree through the Metaphysical University, because metaphysics combines

(53:23):
science of observation and spirit. To me, that's a much
broader science. Then we're just going to study this little
thing and all we discovered, and then a year later
they're like, guess what else we discovered. It's like, well,
if you would have done the science in a complete way,
you would have known that like they did five thousand
years ago. But okay, So my study back then was

(53:44):
researching the effects of tai chi on teenage boys high
school boys with add and AD. I didn't realize at
the time the way that the program was set up
that I could pay for As I was making payments
to do my work, I had also paid for PhD
research study to get my PhD. When I was pulled

(54:05):
over on the side of that road listening to these
horses and they said do your PhD. I said, all right,
I hear you. Thank you for laying all of this
out for me. I get it. Can I have a
day to think about it? And they said sure. So
that was on a Sunday Monday. I called my school
and I said, okay, if I decided that I wanted
to do a PhD study, how much would it cost.

(54:26):
They said, You've already paid for it. When you did
your masters. We were just waiting for you to and
I was like, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
One thing that I did find out, which I found interesting,
was according to most PhDs, you don't actually have to
do a research study. You just have to have a hypothesis.
You pulled together all this information from all these other people.
You're making an assumption about things then that you're proving,

(54:55):
you know, based on this research. This is what it is.
Horses were like, so I didn't know. I was like,
but don't you actually have to do a study. They
were like no, So well let me ask you this.
Can I do a study because this is what the
horses told me that I was going to do to
you know, do all this stuff. So they said, yeah,
you know, we can. We can approve that. So it

(55:15):
was on zoom and it was working with horses and
I never knew. Nobody knew anything about me, nobody knew
what I was going to do. And through the session
they said video everything, So I videoed everything so you
could see through the session. You could see how they
were at the beginning, what their stresses were, what was
going on, and you could literally see I would touch
certain points, they would react, they would yawn. But their

(55:38):
behaviors completely changed within the one hour that I was
working on them, and they were like different beings and
there was no training involved and there was no there
was not even any touch involved. Right, So that part
when you asked before how did it happen? Tenuously practicing chigo,
recognizing everything's energy, and then it was like, wait a minute,

(55:59):
energy then can be anywhere, and you can you can
affect things anywhere. Told you I was born in Albert
Einstein Hospital. Verneinstein, who was studying quantum physics, quantum entanglement,
spooky action at a distance. He thought, that's weird, things
can't I'm me who fails every math and science class.

(56:21):
I am proving quantum entanglements distances, so I agree. I
get all my case studies done. I didn't work with
twenty seven different horses and a lot of science case studies.
It's very interesting. They test like five or six things
at least in the veterinary world and say, oh, this
is the science h I tested five or six. Yeah,

(56:41):
so going through the whole entire process that this was fascinating.
The first six months I had all my key studies done.
Then I couldn't write the paper, and I didn't understand why.
It's like, what is wrong? Like I can write. Finally,
I decide I gotta do something. And I have a
friend who does past life regression, So I said, all right, well,

(57:02):
I'm nothing to lose. I mean, I don't even know
what we're going to find or whatever it turns out.
You regress me and I'm a hermetic philosopher and scientist
in the fourteen hundreds in Turkey. Go figure right, And
I'm about to go into town to tell the people
you don't need the clergy. You got to direct connect

(57:25):
with God. You don't need them. They're middleman and they're
not actually even telling you the truth. They're not letting
you know your true power that you can you aren't
directly connected with sources. Well, apparently, as I'm going into town,
I got jumped by three priests and I got killed,
and I saw the entire thing, the priest, the priest,

(57:46):
the priest. I got cut open. They branded my heart
and I looked at them and the last thing I
said was you can't brand God out of people.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
No.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
I don't have any obvious memory of this ever, nor
did I was. I like, I don't know I guess
maybe past life regression works, maybe it doesn't. After I
had that experience, within three months my paper was written
and submitted.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Wow, so wait so so just to understand that you
because of the regression or the past live regression, cause.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Of my fear of dying and being killed and seeing
that I was killed for telling the truth, I did
not know that what I would be bringing forward in
this research is the proof of quantum entanglements is the
truth of the capacity that we have and the proof

(58:37):
of it. And so underlying as I'm writing this and
understanding this, and I've lived this for years, I'm not
realizing the fear is they're going to kill me if
I tell the truth that the science that we've been
indoctrinated to inn't it.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
And this is why you couldn't write your thesis or
whatever before because you had this blocked emotion or what
are the cases? Wow, that's that's huge. First of all,
let me just thank you for sharing that, because it
really kind of sum sums up your let's just call
it your origin story, you know, and it and all
of these experiences that you've shared thus far has been

(59:17):
more of kind of letting us know that You didn't
just wake up and just started talking to animals. This
was just this has been like twenty fi.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
I mean when I was a kid. But then it got.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Yeah, yeah, and and and we all have it, right,
we all have it. You actually went through the journey
of opening that up, where other folks we're not going
through the journey right where everyone is just kind of
living their life, and then they're looking at you and
saying like, well, what makes you special? Well, so we're so,
we're so are you? You know, I just put into work,

(59:50):
you know, let me so, let me ask you this though,
like offline, you had spoken to me about foster tissue fashia.
Let's talk. Let's talk a little bit about that. Introduce
that to folks so they understand what that's about and
how that works.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Okay. So, when I was studying as a fitness trainer,
right understanding and the things that I learned were anatomy
and physiology to what we understand it from the physical
form of how Western medicine works. When I started understanding
and learning about chiropractic care because I was undergoing chiropractic care.
When I started learning about Chinese medicine and chi gong

(01:00:31):
and started to realize, yes, we have this whole physical structure.
Yes we have these organs, and we have these bones
and muscles and nerves and arteries and all of that.
What actually is the batteries that makes it all work?
I always thought it was food, right, you put food in,
that's your energy. But how come people can go for
a month at a time not eat. How do they

(01:00:53):
go for a week, you know, just drinking water? How
can they go for a few days without even drinking water.
So as I started having these awarenesses and understandings like
from the animals, and started remembering, hey, you know this
isn't just read what they tell you and accept it.
It's start remembering how to ask questions. Now. When I
was a kid, I got in trouble a lot because

(01:01:15):
my parents would say something. I'd go, but why. They
give me one answer, but why, and they give me
a second answer, and by the third time it was
like cause I said so, So they didn't really have
an answer that was truly valid, that's satisfied, Like, all right,
I can understand that now. So somewhere in me, even
though I didn't understand matho and science, like I wanted
to understand. I didn't know that at the time, but

(01:01:37):
you know, even now, I will tell people it's like,
it doesn't matter what I know. It just matters that
I can listen deeply and I'm aware enough to hear
what the animal's saying is taking place. I don't care
about being right. I just care about what's their truth.
So when I started doing I had that incident with
my Golden retriever. Ten years later, I'm living in Aspen, Colorado,

(01:01:58):
and I get called in to work with a healer
dog and the people are like, look, we don't understand
what's going on. He's the greatest dog. He's amazing, but
now he's like we take him for a walk and
he's like snapping at everybody. And I was like, all right, well,
do you mind if I take the dog for a
walk by myself. Let me just see is it something's
going on with you guys. It's something going on. So

(01:02:19):
take the dog for a walk. And he's kind of
snappy a little bit, and I just kind of looked
at him. And it's helpful when you can telepathically communicate,
because I'm like, dude, what's up? And he said, I
don't have a behavior problem. And I was like, oh,
what kind of try up on fire? I think you
do because I see it. He goes, I don't have
a behavior problem. I was like, do tell and he

(01:02:43):
said my back hurt. I was like, interesting, I'm listening.
He said, do you remember how you helped your golden
retriever ten years apart?

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
I met No, okay, and I said kind of. He goes, well,
do you remember how you put your hands on his back?

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
I do, he said, could you do that for me?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
So we're walking on a path, you know, there's people, dogs, everything.
So I start working on his back and I get
to this one point, like just below the mid part
of his back, and he kind of turns and he
looks at me and he's like that hurts. And I
was like, okay, let me just see if I can
release it. I release it. He takes a big, deep breath.
We keep walking. We walk back to the house that

(01:03:28):
people go you know what happened? What happened? I'm not
fully out of the closet yet and want to tell
them what your dog told me. I was like, did
you know your dog has a pain in his back?
Were They almost went like ghost white and they were like,
you touched his back. I was like, was I not
supposed to touch his back? And they said, well, if we
have to touch his back, we put a muzzle on him.
Kind of get to tell the trainer, just say it

(01:03:50):
a second. So I said, well, the thing is your
dog had a tightness in his back, and I released it.
And as soon as I released it, he's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
I was released it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
So that started me with looking at the muscles that
go over the spine and are on the sides of
the spine. That's what the animals started having me look at,
and eventually I've been doing that for a while. I'm like,
miraculous results, like aggressive animals. You know, the people would
be talking to me. I would just be checking the
animals back and seeing what was going on. By the
time we got outside, the people like, what'd you do

(01:04:22):
to my dog? I'm like, what do you mean? I mean,
they're always they would have barked by now, they would have.
So I started making the connection. Hold on a minute.
The animals were telling me a lot of our behaviors.
The first place to check is our body. Don't just
fix the behavior, check our body because usually because something
is out of enlignment in the body, it's going to
block up energy. If it blocks up energy, that energy

(01:04:45):
also affects its corresponding organ So let's just say it's
right below the shoulder blades, and maybe we're in the
liver area. Well, you might have a very barky dog
if there's excess stress at that spot, because if the
back is out, the muscles are too tight, it's going
to restrict liver energy. So if the dog's stressed now,
they're going to bark.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
So the barking of the animals, is it and random
people and whatnot? Is it just to grab someone's attention.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
It can be, it can be. It can also be
stress right now, not just the stress of the animal.
It could also be distress of the human that the
animal's picking up. And if the animal's back is out
of alignment, maybe they were playing with another dog, they
banged into each other, Maybe they jumped out of a
car and they just caught themselves funny, right, So I'm understanding, Okay,

(01:05:35):
release the muscle, and then we've got total changes in behavior,
right And and I'm observing this, and I'm researching this
because I'm a trainer and i want to address the truth,
why is the animal actually doing this? So I started
doing this more and more. The dogs show me the
exact points to talk. You know, I assessed probably close
to like nine hundred dogs with this. I created a

(01:05:56):
harness and least training system. I help people work with
their dogs to walk on leash totally easily with a
system that fit properly. And I keep researching this back thing,
and then the horses come in and they're like, do
this with us too, And then the horses showed me
also points on the face to touch, and then points
on the belly. So when I kind of started going

(01:06:19):
past the back and the muscle, the animals started teaching
me about fasha tissue. So fasha tissue basically sits right
underneath our skin. It's almost like a cotton candy like substance,
and it's what holds everything in place. It's almost like
the saran wrap, right that holds everything in place. So
if you land up getting cut, all your insights don't

(01:06:40):
fall out because you got fasha tissue. And then that's
before you hit bone. So now they're teaching me, hey,
you don't even have to touch us. You can work
off body, you can release our fasha tissue, and if
you follow all the points that we tell you to touch, well,
it's going to be an entire body release for us.

(01:07:00):
So I don't know much about foster tissue. I haven't
studied in any of my anatomy and physiology stuff. I'm
learning directly from the animals.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
Right. That part is a little bit mind blowing, And
I want to acknowledge that that you've never heard a
foster tissue. I've never heard a foster tissue.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
It's not that I didn't hear of it. I just
had no idea of the role that it played at
the significance because like I had never read a science
book on it, I had never studied it with a teacher.
I didn't fully understand it. But when they started having
me do these releases, and they're like, now we're helping

(01:07:38):
you understand in terms of their world, and you got
to remember how they think, what they know, what they understand.
We think in a linear way, right, and we think
in boxes. They're aware of three hundred and sixty degrees.
So when they're showing me a lot of these things again,
I asked for the interpretation to be in English, right,

(01:07:58):
So because I had to be able to put these
dots together if I'm going to speak to humans and
educate them about it. So when something would happen, I
would like feel it. I would send them and be like,
oh my god, that was so cool, and then the
explanation would come in. So I'm learning, and I'm still
learning about the amazingness of fasha tissue, but was so
cool learning from the animals. When I started my chigong practice,

(01:08:20):
I would did a lot of reading, a lot of
reading about a lot of things, a lot of subjects,
and after a while, I was like, I don't think
that that's the best way for me to learn. I
would have an experience and then I would you know,
a book would show up, I'd hear something and I'm like,
holy crap, that's universal truth because how else could I
know it. I didn't read it from the book. So

(01:08:41):
when I started working with the animals, I would have
these experiences and say, Okay, look, this is what I'm
understanding observing, but if it's really true, then I need
to see it somewhere else that can confirm it. So
that's eventually how I started learning. For like the last
I don't know fifteen to eighteen years. I don't really
read books any more. I work with the animals. They'll

(01:09:02):
show me something I'm like, wow, that's amazing. I didn't
know how that works. And then I'll see somehow, you know,
there's a research paper. So I'm like, okay, cool, we're
on the right track. They were helping me learn to trust.
It's okay to know things without having read it in
a book. It's okay to remember that you know this
information and you don't have to have like, you know,

(01:09:24):
how some kids could do math tests and one kid
lays out the whole thing and other kid just gets
the right answer, and the teacher's like, well, how did
you get to that right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
That right? I love that you. I love that you
said that, Alicia, because I've also mentioned to a lot
of folks in my own conversations is that people always
say that the best way I learned was always reading books.
But I think you and I can agree it's about
experiences exactly. From experiences, you know, let me tell.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
You there are so many as I've been doing this
work for like the last thirty years, I mean, there's
so many things that are not taught. So when the
animals that come to me after five trainers, after you know,
six vets, nobody can get to the root of it.
And they're teaching me about fasha tissue. They're teaching me
that this cannot feel, this can only think. So you

(01:10:19):
can run brain scans and you can see things lighting up,
but the information doesn't come into here. The information actually
comes into the fassia tissue that's got tons of receptors
that feel the field, and then that information goes right
to the gut brain, and then that information hits the

(01:10:42):
nervous system, it hits how we breathe, and then that
information goes up to the brain. So it's so fascinating
because I was looking at neuroscience and the animals keep
telling me all the time, the neuroscience is backwards. You
don't study this brain. You study this brain if you
want to control it. But if you really want to
know how the system works, how the instincts work, how

(01:11:05):
somebody is independent not dependent on the system, you study
gut breed. That's why they've wanted to shut down all
of the information on Chinese medicine. Are evadic medicine, all
of the medicines connected to nature. Yeah, we're instinctual first,
not brain first.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
They're trying to shut it down. They want to disconnect,
you know, they want to they they know the elites
know how powerful that that is. But that does not
make them money exactly, It's not profitable. So they're like,
let's let's cut this out and let's keep the sheep
being sheep, and we'll let them know what's right or

(01:11:44):
what's wrong for them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
That's why you are not supposed to remember stuff. Yeah, yeah,
that you didn't learn in a book, because now you
know again, I have all these people that come from
all over the world and they're like, well, this didn't work.
Can you help? Can you help? And we're seeing results
that are like off the charts now, like how does
this stuff work? Well? It works because once we get

(01:12:08):
past this veil of indoctrination and we remember like all
I'm doing is remembering. Oh shit, we are totally telepathic. Shit,
we can work with energies at distances. Shit, we can
call rain when we need it. Like we wait a minute,
you know all of these things that we're told we're
not and we're indoctrinated into this system that's like your

(01:12:29):
nine to five job and all of this stuff is
like blowing off like chunks. It's just like, it's an
amazing experience when we get out of the box of
separation and we really start to remember the totality. And
so for me, when you asked about the flashia tissue,
I didn't know that I was going to be working

(01:12:51):
with that. And what's interesting is the animals show me
certain things and then my brain starts, because it understands
anatomy and physiology, it starts connecting all these dots. So
I'll call veterinarians like in Europe because there are so
much more progressed, and I'll have conversations and say, look,
everybody's talking about water now, right doctor Moto images of

(01:13:12):
water beta Austin waters has intelligence. Well, the animals taught
me was the water is just the carrier. The intelligence
is the thing that I've been studying for thirty three years,
which is the cheek. And what moves through the fashia
tissue is chi and I was I was kind of
struggling a little bit because I was like, all right,
not not because it's me, but I'm seeing such progressive

(01:13:37):
shifts that I'm not seeing that anyone else. That's like
a veterinarian or a trainer. Happen when I work with
an animal. So what's what's why? What? What is it?
Is it the chi because I understand chi is it?
And then I'm understanding from the fashia tissue because fasha
tissue also has intelligence. Right, our whole body is intelligence. Yes,

(01:14:00):
they keep understanding me intelligent. So now the fashia tissue
is telling me when our faster tissue gets tight or compressed.
It's like saran wrap that was like perfect and now
it's crinkly. We don't absorb nutrition as well, we don't
absorb water as well. So as I'm working with the
fasha tissue and I'm seeing these ridiculous results, like a
horse that had a really dried out coat at the

(01:14:21):
beginning of our session, so at the end of the session,
now he's got like rainbow shine. The eyes are bright
if they're moving like amazing, or they're running around when
they hadn't for like months. Like I'm questioning this right
because I'm like, I don't I want to understand this.
And then I started understanding in talking with the fashia tissue.
The fashia tissue is like as soon as you open us.

(01:14:42):
If fasha tissue is tight, it can restrict where the
bones are sitting. Right, So if the bones are sitting
in a funny position, it could be affecting the nerves.
It could be compressing on that, and so blood flow
won't happen as easily. But when you open the fashia tissue.
Because I started with muscle work because it's what I understood,
but then they were like, oh no, no, no, no, we

(01:15:02):
need to show me something much much different and much bigger.
When I started working with the fasher tissue, I was like,
this seems to be like the master neural network of
the entire body. Because we're always taught right, it's the brain.
It's a brain. You got to start, and I'm like,
the fossil tissue actually controls the brain. I got a
question about that, Like, I've hold that foster for one second.

(01:15:24):
I just need to term my AC.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Go go yeah, yeah, okay, go yeah yeah yeah. Now
what do you go back? Okay? Yeah, no, that's good. Yeah,
I got my AC too. Well. Okay, So I got
one more question about that. You mentioned again the foster tissue,
that being this layer I've seen on movies where like
they peel back the scalp and then there's this very

(01:15:46):
thick membrane over the brain. Is that the foster tissue?

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Gotcha? Okay, I want to make sure that I was.
I was seeing what you were talking about, and for
everybody else that's you know, thinking about like what exactly
is that? Okay? Cool? So I think we've all seen
that in movies that little like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Like safe, like layer and everything exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
I love that. And so Alicia, for the interest of time,
I want to I want to ask you about two
about two different little topics here. What is it that
you do right now on your day to day I
know you have like like your own TV show, uh,
you know, and you're bringing client like talk to us
a little bit about that, so that with the audience
that has been fascinated by what you've been talking about,

(01:16:29):
they have a little bit more understanding of Okay, we
understand where she's from, you know, in her journey, where's
she at today and what she's doing and could I
use some of her services?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
So I work with animals over long distances. I've also
trained students to be able to do this work. So
I teach people how to remember how to reawaken their
telepathic abilities. I teach people how to remember how to
touch their animals in a way that helps them really
connect and release pipe bosha tissue and person like. They

(01:17:01):
can do it in person, and then they can also
do it over long distances. I'm an award winning author,
I'm an award winning TV host and filmmaker, And in
twenty twenty I started this series called Animal Healer TV.
So I'd work with a client, then I had an
editor and we'd show before and we'd do like a
little TV show along the lines of like how the

(01:17:24):
Theeser Milan, you know, constructed his show, Like Okay, what
was happening? You see the changes as I'm working on
the animal, and then the person reports back about the
changes and stuff like that. They can see it for themselves,
they can feel it for themselves, and then the animals
hit me with And by the way, because of quantum entanglements,
not only is the human also healing while you're releasing

(01:17:48):
the animals flashia tissue, but anybody else that's on live
or watching the replay is also healing. So it's fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
I mean, seriously, it is that Well let me, let
me just ask them to hear the I feel like
I'm compelled to ask you this question on behalf of
the of the viewers and the listeners. How does the
animals know things about TV YouTube?

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Way to share this message with people? Like how did
they know about this stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
Because they're a lot more conscious than we ever give
them credit for. Remember when we started with you know,
because of the society that we live in and how
we've made them a commodity and that kind of stuff,
we relegate them down in a lot of ways to
the consciousness of like a car, Like I would never
get on a horse's back ever, ever, ever, again, without

(01:18:42):
saying are you okay with this? Can I check your
body first? Like I don't have the desire to ride
anymore after I've been studying and you know, I just
moved to this farm, and we just keep conducting like
more and more scientific research because I can conduct it
every day because it's that we don't have to set
up this risk testing. It's like we're just exploring the
natural science of how everything works. The science that we

(01:19:06):
have now is a science, like you said, it's about profit.
It has nothing to do with nature, It has nothing
to do with observational science, which all of us have
a literal, god given right to experience, right, and then
especially when you do science and you don't even report
your studies and you're killing millions of people, maiming millions

(01:19:27):
of people, injuring tons of people, that's not science science.
It's not science. That is not the science of mother nature.
That's the artificial intelligence science that makes you believe things like, oh,
the person in the white coat knows better about your
body than you do. It's like not at all, because

(01:19:48):
they're not going to en my liver, so what's up?
And my liver is like, well, you're kind of stressed
about d D. So that's why we're having the problem
where I ask an animal's body, so what's up? You
know with your kids levels, and they're like, well, it's
actually coming because I banged my face and this is
the start of the kidney meridian. And then they can
walk me through and tell me the whole thing, and

(01:20:09):
I can explain to the people, and then the people
are able to put together these pieces. I mean, we
had that yesterday right, Like I don't know this stuff.
They know this stuff. So part of my research work
is the consciousness of animals. And you know, in terms
of faster tissue, most of the studies on fasha tissue

(01:20:29):
are done on cadavers. If chi, which is the vital
life force that runs through everybody's bodies, and it's different
than blood. It's part of blood, but it isn't blood.
It's the energy that even inhabits blood. If you're studying
fash tissue on a dead being, then how do you
actually know what it does when it's live? How do

(01:20:52):
you actually know?

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
That's why I talk with the animals, because this way
it's experimenting in a way no harm, only healing and
getting the direct information from the original teachers of humanity
about how our bodies, how our planet even worked.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
I didn't even didn't even think about that until we
started talking about that. And it's like if in order
to experiment on something that's alive, more unlikely at some
point you're going to hurt it, you know what I'm saying,
because you don't really know how to actually like do
it the right way, so you're always hurting those things
are alive, and then when something is dead, well it's

(01:21:31):
a whole lot you can learn. You can learn about
that moment when it's dead after the fact, but while
it's living its life. You just there's not a whole
lot you can you know, Oh, well what did they use?
I don't know what did they used to eat? Well,
you can see what's in the stomach today.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
But you know what I mean, that's why they learned,
like the monks in the forest would observe the native peoples.
The indigenous peoples, they watched the animals did, they watched
what they ate. They watched all of it. And that's
why they have so much more natural science knowledge that
our current Rockefeller medicine science has tried to cut. I mean,

(01:22:10):
I appreciate it as emergency medicine. It's great for that.
It's about ten emergency.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
I love that emergency medicine, Like, hey, I need something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
Shortcut emergency medicine because you got something your spleen just
blew up. You know, you lacerated. You gotta get stitched up,
you got to get a bone set right. But none
of western medicine ever gets you to the root of
what the problem is. It's all read it out, so
you you know, to go to the doctriner for this,

(01:22:44):
go to the vet for this, go to this person
for this, just like our bodies go. You got the
elbow person, and you got the ear nose throat. I'm like, hello,
when you give a shot in an arm, you got
a filtration system, it's not going to stay in your
left arm.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Like, how could you be a.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Doctor and even conceive of that? Because if you that's
your perspective, it's like you have no business being a doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
No, yeah, some quotes. Some folks right now are just
kind of thinking back, like, ma, I didn't even think
about this. There are so many doctors for specific parts
of your body, so like, so there's a general practice
doctor that who knows what they know, right, and then
you have a specific person for the eye and everything.

(01:23:26):
And then that person gets stuck at some point says
you know what, I don't really know, you know, and
they call it and what's your thoughts about this? They
call it a general practice for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Before yes, the whole practice piece completely, before Rockefeller Medicine
started controlling the narrative and pushing all this bullshit about
you know, they're quack medicine, blah blah blah, this whole
entire medical system was you have a general practice, you
have a family practitioner. They know all about the entire

(01:24:00):
we had more osteopaths, we had more chiropractors, we had
more natural paths. That's who was the doctors for. And
if you needed surgery, you had surgery. But there wasn't
you went to one person. One person saw mom, dad,
the kids. I don't know if you ever saw the
movie on Doc Hollywood, Michael Bach, Michael J. Box and he,

(01:24:20):
you know, this kid comes in and he's like, do
this thatt dude. And then the old doc comes in.
He goes give him a coke. He's got hard for
and he needs to burn right. So it's not medicine
has gotten more complicated. But if you actually look, that's
at the statistics, it's far worse. We're far sticker, we're
not healthier, and they have spent god knows how many

(01:24:40):
hundreds of billions of dollars. How come we're not cured
research for cancer yet? Because cancer is a money maker
for the humans and for the animals. I have my animals,
Thank god, knock Wood. Nobody's gotten cancer. I'm not gonna
get cancer because I understand Toogong, I understand Eastern medicine,
and I understand energy flows also also understood what was

(01:25:03):
happening with the shots, and I was like, thanks, And
so when you see the whole picture. So when I
do my TV show weekly and we're showing I know
nothing really about the animal. It's just what's the question
that the person has. Right, then I'll do the insinct,
body assessment and foster release. And then while I'm doing that,

(01:25:24):
I'm also getting telepathic information from the animal. So I'm
picking up things. You can't read it on an X ray,
can't read fashia tissue on an X ray. You can't
read this stuff on blood work. This is why so
many animals, you know, you bring the animal in, it's like, well,
you know, we're not seeing anything, but you know something's

(01:25:46):
up with your animal, because like that dog said to me,
I don't have a behavior ashoe, I have a body issue.
So that was on a very physiological level. But then
we look at the energies. Right, why do I get
results that other people don't get? And I'm not touting myself,
you know, Oh, come see me please, I'd rather you
watch the show, and I'd rather teach you this stuff

(01:26:07):
and you do it yourself. But remembering that so much
of medicine is felt and connection, and that's what the
Fasha tissue actually provides us. It's the feeling that then
goes to the gut brain. The gut brain recognizes, oh,
it's this, and then it sends the information to the
head brain to say, Okay, well you're the one that

(01:26:29):
understands how to architect this stuff. But this is not
the one that holds all the information. This is just
the architect and the processor. And so the Fasha tissue,
it just tells us a lot, even communicates telepathically. Hey,
this is what was stuck in my cells. This is
where I hurt myself. This is where I jumped off

(01:26:51):
the whatever, this is where I banged into so and so.
The body remembers everything brain doesn't. So it's this whole
entire journey has been so fascinating. So now I do
the TV show once a week. People are welcome to join.
Just invite people on with their animal and we get
to go through the whole process together. Because I don't

(01:27:13):
have any information on what's going on with the animal.
I just have the question, but I'm able to walk
us through. Okay, here's what's happening. Now, here's where I'm
working on the animal's body, here's what the animal knows
and if the person. It's very interesting because oftentimes when
I'm working on the animal's body at a very specific point,
and it's different for everybody, but there's usually a specific

(01:27:34):
point that I'm working with, and all of a sudden,
the person comes through with a question, and it is
mind blowing to me. How the exact question they asked
at that exact point on the animal's body is the
exact answer they were looking for. That the animal knows
what to share with the person. So when you ask

(01:27:57):
before like how did people know, we have all had
that moment where like, oh we thought about somebody they called,
We looked at our animal and we were just like
you need da da da da da, or like you're
not feeling well. So there's none of us, none of
us on this planet that I'm not experienced telepathy. And
even the game like maybe you play this with your

(01:28:19):
kids sometimes think of a number from one to ten.
That's pelepathy.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Yeah it is simple?

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Is that? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:28:26):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Simple?

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Is that? Yeah? Where even that simple game, you know,
we're not todd that it's anything anything magical and anything special.
We're just all right, it's just some dumb thing that
we do. But it's I mean, if we're if we
guess it, you know, that's telepathy and it's right. Yeah,
I like that. No one's really actually used as an example,

(01:28:48):
but it definitely resonates. So again, what we're doing now
here is I want to touch briefly on this one
last topic here and then we'll wrap things things up.
Folks and folks, if you you are enjoying the show
thus far, and you are loving the conversation and learning
more about this, is this like a modality, Alicia? Is
that what you consider it? A modality? Yeah? I mean

(01:29:11):
you're learning about this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Well, it's like I said, so this has been a journey, right,
and all I'm doing is just remembering how to connect
the puzzle pieces. This is not anything I invented. This
is not anything that I came up with. There's basis
for all of this, in all of the ancient teachings
and wisdoms. I'm just bringing it voted in a way
for us to understand it on a modern level as

(01:29:35):
simply as possible. Because the equation you know that Einstein
would write on the board for like, oh, this is
what quantum entanglements is. I don't understand that. But what
I'm doing is exactly what his equation said. Yeah, and
maybe I gained some of his spiritual DNA. I don't know,
being born in his hospital that like, yeah, I share

(01:29:57):
your initials. Maybe I'm supposed to take your spooky action
at a distance. Way. Further difference too, with the work
that I do as opposed to something like reiki or
energy healing. I am not sending these animals any energy.
I'm actually not even sending any intention. I hold a space. Hey,
I hold a space for your highest healing. But that's it.

(01:30:19):
So each session working with the faster tissue, each session
just touching fasha tissue at a distance and saying, hey,
you're tight here, would you mind if I release that
witnessing what happens on such a simple level of being
able to be reconnected with the unified energy field, which
is massively complicated science, except it's also super simple.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
Yeah, it is, it is, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:30:43):
We all have it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:45):
No, I'm sorry ahead, no.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
I was gonna say it, and we are all we
all come in with this. Now, there's a big wave
sweeping across it's with the autistic children. And there's a
podcast and a show, the Telepathy Tape, right, and they're
showing how autistic children are. Tell about it. Why do
you think autistic children respond so well to animals because
they hand each other.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
It's celipathy, right, that's something think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (01:31:13):
It's it's fascinating because they make it so complex, and
the complexity has to do with money, and it makes
you think that somebody else is the authority. And I
would never say if you don't feel well or your
animals don't feel well, don't go to the doctor. But
I will say, if you've been to the doctor, you've
been to the trainer a few times, and it's they're

(01:31:35):
going at it the wrong way. We need to address
flash a tissue first to see if there's unrecognized pain.
That unrecognized pain could also be contributing to the energy
flow not being as proper as it could be. That's
why your animal might be behaving oddly or they might
not be feeling well. And you can literally use your

(01:31:57):
own to hand to assess that because you're not going
to be able to unless it's an emergency, you know,
and you're picking your an them up right now and
go to the bat And if if that is the case,
you should be you should absolutely be going. But if
it's like they're not feeling well, at least I can
show you ways and places to touch on their body.
That if it's an energy issue and it's not showing

(01:32:17):
up in the blood work or you know, we don't
know what to tell you. If it's an energy issue,
I can help you unwind it. I can show you,
I can help you remember it's really this simple.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
Yeah, I love that, and I appreciate you explaining that.
And to just add on to Alicia said, folks, no
one's telling you to not you know, if you feel
like you need to go see a ven area in.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Absolutely and that's what that can actually be. First that
rule out, you know, like let them take the blood work,
let them do the X ray, let them you know,
do a sonogram or an MRI. Right, but at least
that way we have a base level of information and
if that information is not showing what is taking place,

(01:33:00):
then we do. Okay, let's take a look at the energy,
right right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
The energy this is yeah, this is just an alternative
option when you feel like there is no other option. Folks,
So just keep that in mind, and I want to
touch base on our experience from yesterday. So yesterday, folks,
you know, Alisha was kind and generous and gracious enough

(01:33:25):
to give myself and my wife Katie a complimentary review
on our two cats, Ziggy and Kolby. I'll put them
up on the screen here so you guys can see
which one is which. So I just wanted to make
sure that folks understand that we're not just talking and
having this conversation about what Alisha can can do. I've

(01:33:46):
experienced it, my wife has experienced it. So yesterday Alisha
went ahead and rein reviewed our cat, Ziggy and which
again you guys will see here on the screen. And
we actually went into it unsure of what was there
going to be any results. We didn't really understand what
the expectations was. What we honestly thought was, Hey, how

(01:34:08):
cool will it be to just know what's going on
with our animal? If possible? That's that's it. Our animal is.
As far as we know, he's healthy, you know, he's
happy and content, but it'd be nice to just be
able to hear about it. And we did a zoom
call and my wife was on as well, and I
was on the other end too, and Alicia just needed

(01:34:31):
me to keep the camera on the animals so as
she's doing her thing, we can see the animals, how
they react, they if they move, if they twitch, if
they decided to play, whatever the case is. But aside
from all of that, what was so outstanding from our
experience was that Alicia knows nothing about our family, our cats,

(01:34:52):
my kids, my wife, me and she learned quite a bit,
but not from us, from our cats, from our So, folks,
are you know your animals? In this case, my cat
was taking notes and he just needed to be heard.
And you know, we originally just wanted to just know
is our is our animals? Know our animals happy, content, healthy,

(01:35:16):
and things like that. And our cat ended up talking
to Alicia, telling her, you know, about about our two kids,
about why he is here, his purpose pretty much, how
he's helping myself and my wife, all of these things.
That was that really resonated with each of us in

(01:35:36):
our own different way. But the most shocking part about
all of this, even before we even started the session,
was I brought the camera over to the cat so
Alicia can see him, and in some kind of sense.
Alicia was like, whoa, he's different. And here's what's funny
before I tell you what the difference is. I've always

(01:35:57):
made fun of this cat in the in a loving
way that like he's kind of weird. He's kind of
like a little dirt dirt, you know. He's always been
a banging on the walls and and and things like that.
He just there's a vibe about my animal that's a
little bit just kind of off. And I know I'm
pretty sure some of you out there haven't has an animal.

(01:36:19):
If you have more than one, that one's a little
bit off, you know, more than the other. And his
name is Ziggy. My my wife called him Ziggy from
as in Ziggy start Star does the kitty from Mars. Okay,
so we always thought about him being a space a
space cat. And Alicia when she made the comment about
him being weird, she ended up telling us that your cat,

(01:36:40):
that cat is an alien.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
Like now, but he's an alien, I said, he's not.
He's not from here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:46):
From here. Okay, he's not from here. I'm saying he's
an alien and everything, but from here. We eventually figured
out that he's not a regular cat, and what I
mean by that is I have two cats. So the
other cats, which is Kolbe, which I'll put up here
on the screen. According to Alisha, she felt his vibe.
He's a regular cat, He's from Earth. But the other one, Ziggi,

(01:37:09):
which you'll see on the screen as well, is not.
So we went through that mindset as she did her
thing that just stuck in my mind and folks like, oh.
And also I learned about his personality and he's humorous.
He's how Alicia described a very very cool way. Was
that he's not like slapstick funny, you know, like stand

(01:37:30):
up comedian. He's very very highly intelligent, but with that
kind of humor, like witty and witty.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Right, I'm witty.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
And it was just it was just amazing. And folks,
the takeaway from all that that we were done with
the session and I'm with the cats. I'm telling you
guys from firsthand experience from Caesar Pergotten, I cannot look
at my cat the same way that I did these
past years I've had him. There is to be honest
with you guys and be transparent. And this goes to

(01:38:00):
the same with my with my wife. My wife loves
them they're really like her her cats. But and to me,
I just kind of, you know, they became family. I
love this cat now, like he actually has more value
to me than he did before and after the session
and Alisha did her back healing energetic work and things

(01:38:22):
like that. We like, this cat was around me the
entire night, like we were just hanging out. We were cool.
And usually for those of you that own cats, cats
kind of do their own thing. We were like hanging out,
like hanging out. I folks, I don't hang out with cats. Okay,
I don't do that. That's not that's not me. But
we were hanging out and we're having a good time.

(01:38:43):
And I was even honestly, I was talking Tom, I
was talking about I said, now that I know what
you are and who you are, let's talk. Let's have
a conversation. And I'm and I'm trying to do my best,
Alicia to listen to the to the animals with my
with my guts you had described it and going with
and I don't know if I'm doing it right, but

(01:39:05):
I'm going with the first Like when I ask the
cat a question, I go with the first feeling that
I received from it, and I say, Okay, that's it, right,
that's it and easy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Too, like but been shut down. So we think it's
this hard process and it's like we're wired for it,
like the creator gave us this universal language. We just
have to remember it. Only you have to learn it.
Sometimes you have to learn how to turn it back on,
like we have to learn how to turn off this
so we can just listen and trust ourselves again. But

(01:39:39):
I love what you're doing and just keep doing it.
I can't wait to hear what you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Yeah, it's a beef a thing, folks. And just to
wrap up that comment of my experience, you know it
has at least you had described how this healing also
heals now only the animal, but the owners as well.
I can contest to that, like there is a bond.
My wife and I talked about a few hours afterwards
because she was processing it as well, and she was emotional.

(01:40:06):
She was crying. She was crying because Alicia had relayed
some information from our cat to her that she needed
to hear. And again, like I say, I'm gonna say
it again, I feel different about the cat as well,
and so everything that Alisha was talking about and sharing
today and the things that she's doing and the things

(01:40:26):
that she's going to continue doing for other folks. I
just want to let everybody know that she is legit.
She is legit, I, I, I and on behalf of
my family. We appreciate you for that and continue to
do the work that you're doing because, for lack of
better terms, it's we need this, we need this.

Speaker 2 (01:40:47):
That's what the animals have said. I mean, they're here
to help us remember who we are. And absolutely you
know that I can't tell anybody anything. And it's interesting
because I would know, you know, going into this as
a young kid wanting to be a vet, and I
would never in a million years have been like, wow,

(01:41:07):
look at how many animals not only can I help assist,
but look at how many humans get to be assisted
as well. And I, in my wildest dreams, I never
could have come up with what's gonna work this way?
Like I'm gonna actually not just take blood tests and
do they like, I'm actually gonna talk with them and

(01:41:28):
find out, Okay, how do we help you heal? And
as is your healing, how do we help your human deedal?

Speaker 1 (01:41:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Exactly, it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
Works, And I just I just hope that you can
keep touching more more lives with with your amazing gift.
You know, and again we all have it, but you're
tuned in. So and Alicia, as as as I do
with all of my guests. As we wrapping up the show,
I'd like to ask all my guests six questions. They're

(01:41:57):
all the same. I've asked all my guests these same questions.
There is no right or wrong answer for these questions.
There's just yours, Okay, just your answers. So here's the
first one. Beyond all the knowledge and experiences that you've
gained thus far, with everything that you've learned, what still
leads you in awe or makes you question everything?

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
Being able to take a deep breath and sit outside
with my horses and watch a sunset like that's my
having on Mother Earth, Like I will always be in
awe of how beautiful this planet is.

Speaker 1 (01:42:27):
Yeah, Alicia, what is to from your understanding? What is
the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Remember who we really are and have that experience, to
be able to have that experience in flesh?

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
What is God?

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
I can't tell you what God is because my understanding
of God now is gold, oil and drugs. But I
can tell you that my experience with the Tao and
the universal energy and intelligence is beyond anything I can describe.
That's the awe that there is an intelligence that was
aware of everything a little nuance, but was able to

(01:43:02):
create the vastness of this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:04):
To me, it's all Alicia, what is love?

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
Is that a truck question?

Speaker 1 (01:43:10):
Your answer from what you understand up to this point,
from everything that you know. Do you what if you
were to define and explain to somebody what is love?

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
It's an experience of being part of the totality of
this unified field and feeling all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
If you could go back to little young Alisha, what
would you tell her today? Girl?

Speaker 2 (01:43:34):
Don't sweat the small shit. You have no freaking idea
who you are yet, and you are gonna have so
much fun, So just keep having fun and don't fucking
worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:43:45):
I love it straight up. You know what's funny, A
lot of people actually say that. They just said, just
just web yeah, just don't change a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:54):
Yeah, And Alicia, one more time, if you could tell
the folks how to find you, how they can continue
to follow you, reach out to you. Things like that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
My website is Alicia main dot com, i Amine dot com.
If you want to read to me by email Hello
at Animal Healer with two e's h E E L
E R. And I'll also drop you a link to
the TV show. The membership for the show, yeah, it's

(01:44:24):
it's no obligation. You can join for a month, really
inexpensive and you can watch every week and if you
even if you can't watch, watch the replays and just feel,
just be present and just feel what changes for you
over you know, the course of an hour an hour
and a half. Because I wasn't expecting this, but the
animals are like, you're offering a unified field healing for

(01:44:48):
everybody that's you know, watching, or that watches the replay.
And I was like, that's really cool, you know, like
I sense that forget all the politics, forget all the diversity,
forget all the separations, if we could just remember we're
all part of the same unified field. And that's where
I think the animals hold the most intelligence because they

(01:45:11):
still remember and where we've forgotten, and they're the master
teachers that are just trying to remind us, hey, breathe, chill,
keep your fascia tissue open and keep go just you know,
like reel it in and just remember, like when you're
connected to that unified field and you feel that all
and that love of that divine intelligence, why would you
want to harm anything? You know. So they really do

(01:45:36):
have the master key codes that help us remember the
codes of conduct and behavior, how we were designed to
live here before it got all artificial and distorted and
corrupted and poisoned. That's why I really enjoy spending time
with them, you know, and just helping people remember like
it really is this simple.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Absolutely well said. I appreciate you sharing that. And folks,
I'm sure a lot of you are sitting back and
just processing an event, probably petting your animal right now
or looking at them right right now, and you're starting
to question things. And that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:13):
Yeah. I don't even remember, oh my god, that time
that I thought that I was crazy because you're remembering,
so that's actually normal.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
Yeah, And that's the whole point of this podcast, Alicia,
is we have these conversations, and it's not just about
just two people sitting and sharing what you think something
is or what we disagree on. It's just about something
anything in that conversation if it triggers a remembrance in you,
we've done our job. We've done our job.

Speaker 2 (01:46:43):
May I also offer you a compliment. I've been on
a lot of different podcasts and you just have such
a lovely way of being and leading your guests in
the conversation. It's really been an honor to have a
conversation with you. It's been lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
I appreciate that. That's that's that hits me here and everything.
I'm in gratitude with that comment. I absorb that. I
honor that. So I appreciate you on that. And that's
what this is supposed to be. We're supposed to just
have a conversation to like minded folks. You're in a
whole different space than I am, but.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
I can jointing and his outam.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Yeah, yeah, you know, folks, this is you know, if
you guys watch also my other episodes as well, there's
a lot of there's a lot of things that I
don't know, okay, and there's a lot of things that
my guests don't know about me and about what I
do and things like that. So this should be proof
that that people if they have the same if their

(01:47:40):
heart isn't the same place. They should be able to
sit across from each other or mouth away on a
on a zoom call and just have a conversation. Folks,
just exchange information. Hey, we're both, we're both, we're all
experiencing this. We're having this experience together. But Alicia, how
are you, you know, experiencing your side the house? Caesar,

(01:48:02):
how are you experiencing your side the house?

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
That's so awesome because people are so divided, arguing about points,
and you know, suppose its facts when honestly, nobody's telling
the truth anyway, so who knows what the facts are?
But I love that you just brought that so full circle.
It's like, let's stop yelling at each other. The whole
point of what's happening right now is to divide us

(01:48:24):
and to get us arguing about points, so we don't
humanize each other. And when you talk to somebody else
and you share your experiences, it's not it's just about
listening to each other. It might there might be people
that go, she's freaking nuts, Okay, cool, could be, absolutely
could be. I'm not gonna argue. I'm not going to
defend myself because I've had the experiences thousands and thousands

(01:48:47):
and thousands of times, so I don't have anything to defend.
So that the whole thing that when you have an
experience that you can actually share versus having a talking
point that could divide you, you don't agree, like love
that you brought that up to like get back to
the police to share your experiences with each other.

Speaker 1 (01:49:07):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you validating that. I definitely agree
with with with what you said as well. And folks,
in the comments below, anything in this conversation that you
that resonate with you, that you agree with, that you
even disagree with it, doesn't that put it in the
comments because by by doing that or having a conversation

(01:49:29):
going to be so dismissive. Yeah, people experiences. And this
is also it all falls into, at least for my
for my podcast, is I always remind folks respect you know,
my truth, and respect the truth of my guests, because
like I said in the beginning of this episode and
all my episodes, is that I always thank my guests

(01:49:50):
first for gifting because that's what they're doing their time
and their energy to share their experiences for all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Of you, respectful, respectful.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
So on you once you This is why we start
off the episode that way to acknowledge what is happening
to then allow the conversation to flow as it needs
to flow, and we circle back to the end. To
the end here, folks, is because of my personal experience
and my own testimony is you'll see Alicia's information links

(01:50:25):
on the description below. Go check her out, Go check
out her website, Go read more about her. There's many
of you that have animals, and you know why you
have them with you, right, but I know you have
more questions. So if you don't feel confident in understanding
what's going on with your animal, we're providing you a

(01:50:46):
solution here to for somebody who, as I can attest,
is kind, lovely, beautiful on the inside and on the outside,
and she's providing this this service from her heart for
all of you. Let's so let's let's give her some
business and let's keep her going and keep her, keep
her fully occupied, all right, don't give her, don't give

(01:51:06):
her a break. All right, there'scharch.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Support and research, so we keep remembering.

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And Alicia, let me give
you one last moment. Is there a final thing that
you like tomorrows before I go into my outro.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Remember that no matter what's happening, you need to just
take a deep breath and you need to just get
out of your head, around back into your body, just
reconnect with the unified field and then you can proceed.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
And with that said, folks, as a reminder, I love you,
I see you, I hear you, I am you. Continue
to ask questions, don't be afraid to pull back the
current and take a deeper look. Push forward, always reaching
beyond the frequency.
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