From Heroin to Healing: Founder & CEO Charles Patti’s Journey Through Psychedelics & Self-Wellness

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Why is your clinic so much better than the ones
that are already out there.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
We do it differently, Our protocols are different. We all
are so well versed in psychedelic medicines. Our doctor's first
LSD experience was in nineteen fifty seven in a clinical study.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
The medicine is a catalyst.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a tool to get you to grab the reins
of your own life so you can really propel forward
in the right direction, along with meditation, breath work, healthy
lifestyle changes.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Is it only going to be ketamine for your vision
of how this works?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ketamine now, because it's FDA approved. MDMAI go next, and
I use all of these compounds to heal. I quit
a six year opioid addiction from a GMT experience.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
That's impossible. So that's you're a miracle. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
What if I told you that everything you know is
just the beginning. Beyond the veil of the ordinary lies
a realm of hidden knowledge, ancient wisdom, and untapped potential,
a place where consciousness expands, reality.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Bends, and the impostive becomes possible. You weren't meant to
stay asleep. You were meant to awaken, open your mind,
remember who you truly are, and step with me Beyond
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Speaker 5 (01:37):
All right, Welcome back to Beyond the Frequency three sixty nine.
I'm your host, Caesar for God. Now you know, on
this show we're always pulling back the current on reality,
looking at him knowledge, ancient wisdom, and the power of
consciousness to transform our lives. But today I'm excited because
we're diving into a conversation that gets right to the
heart of healing and awakening. My guest today is someone

(01:59):
who's that transformation. His name is Charles Patty, and if
you don't already know who he is, you're about to
meet a man whose story is a real and.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Raw as it gets.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
Charles has walked through the darkest valleys addiction, depression, trauma,
and substance abuse, and he came out on the other side,
not just surviving, but thriving.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
So what actually turned it all.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Around for him, psychedelic medicines, tools that helped him reconnect
with himself, rewire his life, and now help others to
do the same. Charles is the founder and CEO of
my Self Wellness, a groundbreaking clinic that's helping people heal
with psychedelic assistant therapy. He's also the co founder of

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Warriors of Consciousness, a nonprofit dedicated to making these powerful
healing modalities available to those who can't afford them. So
what I love about Charles is how perfectly his journey
aligns with what we're all about here beyond.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
On the Frequency through sixty nine.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
It's about remembering who we truly are, moving past the
illusion of limitation, and finding the light that's been inside
all of us all along. The story is proof of
what's possible when we embrace them. So let's get into it.
Let's get to know Charles. Patty, Charles, Welcome to the show, buddy,
How are.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You, Caesar? Thanks for having me on, man, it's an honor, awesome, fantastic.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Like I said to all my guests, I'm in gratitude
for you gifting me your time to stay here to
talk to not just me, by also my audience, drop
some gems, share your experience in your stories, and hopefully
this conversation will trigger some kind of remembrance for somebody
and motivate them to do something that maybe they just
need a little bit of that that spark.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Right.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
So, Charles, I know a lot of people see the
work that you're doing helping others heal, guiding people into
this new space of wellness. But I want to take
it back to the beginning, because before all of this light,
there was some really dark days for you. Can you
share with us your origin story, what life was like
when when you were caught in addiction, depression and trauma,

(04:07):
and at what moment in that in your life was
it that led you to seek a different path?

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Please for sure. Wow, that's a it's going to be
deep here man. So really like it all kind of actually,
like even before the actual healing part, it started off
with when I was really young, about six years old,
my father passed away from lung cancer and that really
sent me on like a you know, being a young
boy like that on a negative spin where I was

(04:34):
feeling depressed and having anxiety and I had this crippling
fear of death. Ever since I was very very young
where it got to the point I would literally wake
up in the morning and I'd be like, can again
to die today, you know, And it was it was
a lot for a young kid to go through. And
my first stepfather was an alcoholic, and so there was

(04:56):
alcohol all over the house. We had beer coolers. He
was always sending me to go get beers for him,
you know, like when I was like seven eight years old,
and the thing was is every time I got a
beer for him, I was allowed to take a sip
out of it, and so like I would always like
take little SIPs of beer, and I would start feeling
this sense of relief, like this warm feeling where I

(05:16):
was like, oh, man, like this is making me feel
so much better. I think this is what I need
in my life. And so my alcohol abuse started at
a very young age and me finding out how much
relief that gave me when other things started to come
into the equation, you know, he's smoking cannabis at a
very young age, moving into cocaine use. By the time,

(05:37):
I was pain pills, benzodiazepins like xanax, and then when
I was around eighteen, oxycodon hit the market and I
dove deep into that I became addicted to oxycodon. It
became a very expensive habit, and my dealer was like, listen, man,
you know, like I've got this other stuff and it's cheaper.

(05:58):
It's called heroin, and you know, you can do this
and it'll last you longer, it won't be so expensive,
and so like, it was a process of going deeper
and deeper into my addiction where it got to the
point where I was using IV heroin on a daily basis.
I was smoking crack cocaine, I was taking handfuls of

(06:18):
xanax throughout the day. And listen, like, you know, we
can talk about addiction, but really what it boils down
to is a traumatic experience. And then I was self medicating.
So whether it's you know, drugs or alcohol or food
or sex or whatever, substance abuse or addictive personalities is
literally just a symptom of an underlying issue. And that's

(06:40):
what I was taken care of. So I had dabbled
in psychedelics in my younger years. I had, you know,
taken LSD and psilocybin, mushrooms and stuff, but I was
always using them recreationally. I never used them therapeutically, and
you know, it was a process of like me over
a twenty year span, having a train ride for a life.

(07:00):
I was in and out of trouble constantly. It was
always for substance abuse issues and DUS and stuff like that.
But when I got into to like my mid actually
it's like my early thirties. I was at my house
and I had a buddy that came over to bring
me a bunch of MDMA, and he brought another guy

(07:22):
with him, and so like we started off the night
partying that night and I took some MDMA and I
didn't know I was going to have a breakthrough experience
that night. I thought it was just like any other
night where we're going to be partying. But right before
the MDMA started to kick in, this guy busted out
a bag of what it looked like to be ketamine
to me, and I was like, is that ketamine? And

(07:42):
he's like, here, man, you want to try some. It's
not ketamine, but it's very much like it. And I
was like yeah, sure, So I did a little bit,
and all of the sudden, it was like this perfect storm.
It was like the MDMA and this other dissociative kicked
in at the exact same time, and the room broke
down to a quant state. I could see all of
the energy humming and vibrating in everything. It's like everything

(08:05):
wasn't solid. I got to see everything at its energetic state.
I stood up in the middle of the living room
and I looked at everybody, and I said, if I
didn't know what the universe was about before, I know
what it's about now. I said, Everything's made of energy,
and I'm so full of positive energy right now. And
I sat down in the chair and I looked up
and there was this geometric portal like opening above me

(08:28):
on the ceiling, and I felt like I was being
loaded down into a sling shot where I was shot
straight out of my body into deep space. And I
looked down and I was a being made of light.
And then I like looked around and I could see
like all these stars and like it was like I
was in the middle of a galaxy and here we go.

(08:49):
And then so I realized I was looking out of
a window. And I turned around and I was on
a ship and there were these beings there who appeared
to be like they were standing on two feet, and
they were these amphibious like frog beings, and there was
a male and a female and I'm freaking out. I'm

(09:09):
just like, am I dead? What's going on? And the
female one came over to me and started telepathically communicating
with me, and she was like, Charles, Everything's gonna be okay,
and like telepathically. I was told that night that like
I was supposed to stop taking drugs, and I was
supposed to stop living the life that I was living
because I was supposed to kill myself so I could

(09:30):
help other people, you know. And I was told about
the oneness of everything and how we're all a part
of the same collective consciousness and that separation is an
illusion and that like we're all it just pretending that
we're not basic and so like through this conversation, there's
these doors over on the side of the ship and
they start to open up, and this like fog starts

(09:53):
coming out. It's like dry eyes smoke, and all of
a sudden, Jesus walked out and like, listen, I'm not
coming from a religious standpoint. That's not my message. I'm
not sitting here trying to preach to anybody. It's just
my experience and I don't even classify myself as a
religious person. I'm a very spiritual person. But he started
walking over and I'm just being made of light, and

(10:14):
I like, go over and I put my hand down
on Jesus's arm and it goes and it was like
the explosion of the most loving, euphoric feeling I had
ever felt in my entire life. And from that second forward,
I knew that everything was going to be okay. My
fear of death went away. I had this overwhelmingly loving
feeling for myself which I had never had before for

(10:36):
everybody else because I knew that we were all one,
and you know, there was more messages about like what
I was supposed to do with my life. And then
all of a sudden, I'm back in the living room
and everybody's kind of just looking at me, and my
ex wife looked at me, she goes, you were just
acting really crazy. You're not allowed to do that anymore.
And that was like this massive awakening moment that I

(10:59):
had where the first thing I said to everybody and
I looked at him, I said, everything I've ever believed
is a lie, Like up to this point, like everything
I've ever believed in is a lie in a way,
because you know, that was a moment that I'll never
forget and shaped my life in very different way or
many different ways.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
I beautifully said, I Wow, that definitely was unexpected but
very refreshing. So let me ask you this, though, so
you've met, you've encountered these beings at that point of
your life. Has that been something that repeated itself later
on in your life as you're doing the good work
so to speak?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah? Man, I mean listen, like the thing is is
that you know, it wasn't just that experience that was
a catalyst. And let me tell everybody out there, like,
I didn't get my life together after that night. Okay,
I was almost more lost than I was going into it,
because I'm like, am I crazy? Did I lose my mind?
And this is why when it comes to psychedelic therapy

(11:56):
that integration is so important, having somebody to process these
actual healing experiences with And it's one of the things
that we're very passionate about my self wellness with what
we do, because I know how lost somebody can feel
if they don't have somebody to actually process these healing
experiences with them. I had to integrate myself and I
really spent like I like that. After that night, I'm

(12:18):
like on Google and I'm like typing in like aliens
and ketamine and like trying to figure out what happened
to me. And all of the sudden, DMT kept popping
up when I'm researching this stuff, right, and I'm like,
DMT Rick Strassman, the Spirit Molecule, and I'm like, well,
I got to watch this, And so I watched The
Spirit Molecule. And there was a doctor named Rick Strassman

(12:40):
who did clinical trials at the University of New Mexico
in the nineties, and he was giving people intervene as
a DMT. And during this study, what kept happening is
is that a lot of the participants, almost all of them,
kept making contact. They kept having these experiences with beings.
And Rick kind of like like I've spoke to Rick
since all of this. We did a podcast a long

(13:02):
time ago, and you know, they shut down the studies
because like he couldn't explain what was going on, Like
he didn't want to like push people out to this
ledge and not be able to explain like hey, listen,
like you know, I know what's going on. So it
kind of like stopped at that point. But me watching
the Spirit Molecule actually helped me integrate my experience because
I'm like, Okay, maybe I'm not crazy. There's there's other

(13:24):
people that are having these same kind of experiences, and
so I was like, I need to get some DMT,
and I did. I got some, and I started having
more experiences like the one that I described that first night,
different beings, different entities. The underlying message that I kept
getting over and over again is that like they were

(13:44):
worried about us as human beings on this planet and
that we needed to get our lives together, and I
was supposed to help people heal. It was this reoccurring
message I kept getting over and over and over again,
and so I was like, all right, maybe there's something
too that like like I kept falling off though, you know,
it's like, you know, I would get there and I'd

(14:05):
be like, Okay, I'm like, you know, I'm on a
mission here, and then I would start self medicating again.
It was always alcohol that brought me back to everything.
And what ended up happening was I couldn't figure out
why I was doing what I was doing, and I
ended up getting hooked on opiates again. I was hooked
on heroin again, and I was like, you know what,
I'm in the middle of a heroin addiction and I'm like,

(14:27):
I need to get some DMT and I'm going to
figure out what's going on with me, why I can't
stop doing this. And so I did it, and I
went to an alternate universe or a parallel reality where
all of these beings were there. There was like thousands
of them and they looked kind of like Doctor Manhattan.
And there was one of them that had like, I
guess he was like the guy in charge, you could say,

(14:48):
and he had this red ruby where his third I
would be on like his forehead, and they were all
cheering and chanting for me, and they're like, it's not
too late, you can do it. It's like kind of
the Adam Sandler movie where he's like, yeah, you can
do it, right, And so, like I come out of
the experience and I'm bawling. I'm like crying. I'm like,

(15:09):
oh my gosh, all of this was real. I really
was supposed to get my life together because I'm supposed
to help people. And I got some suboxin and ounce
of cannabis I locked myself in a bedroom for a week,
and I detoxed myself and I stopped taking heroin, and
then so like on and off, you know, like okay,
well alcohol is okay. Still, I could drink a little

(15:31):
bit and then, like you know, it would always end
up leading me back to cocaine. And then so I
was just like, all right. I always heard Terence McKenna,
who's a psychonaut philosopher, pioneer in the psychedelic space, very
largely into dimethyl trip to me or DMT and psilocybin mushrooms.
But he was always talking about this five gram trip.
He's like five grams and pitch black, silence, meditate on it,

(15:54):
secrets of the universe and all of this stuff. And
so I was like, all right, man, that's it, and
worked for the heroin. Now I'm going to take care
of the alcohol and the cocaine. And so I got
six grams of psilocybin, did it, and then locked myself
in my bedroom, crawled under my comforter and pitched black
and I started to meditate, and all of a sudden
I started to leave my body and I went out

(16:16):
into the middle of the universe, where I became one
with everyone and everything, and I became one with God
and realized that we are all in, that we are
one collective consciousness, that separation is an illusion. I am
the I am, and so are you, and we're all it.
We're just pretending that we're not. And so, like, I
came back down into my body that night after the experience,

(16:37):
and I'm like, oh my gosh, every time that I'm
drinking and I'm taking cocaine, I'm poisoning God. And I
was just like, okay, crying and I'm apologizing and I'm
so sorry. But it was like me apologizing to myself
in a way because I had been abusing myself like
this all of these years. And I was just like, well,
I guess if we're all it, I can manifest anything
that I want. Can't die. And so I was like, well,

(16:59):
I am going to make manifested healing organism that's going
to transform humane to a higher state of consciousness. And
so I started going to the gym and I started
eating healthier because it wasn't just drugs and alcohol for me.
I weighed one hundred and eleven pounds more than I
do right now at one time because I was addicted
to food and sex and gambling and anything to take
me outside of myself. But I started doing all of

(17:20):
these practices that you know I promote out there for
everybody else to take part in, which is like breathwork, meditation,
going to the gym, eating all organic, drinking spring water
out of glass bottles. Like you know, I used to
be one of the most unhealthy people on the planet,
and now I flip that into this, I'm going to
become one of the most high vibrational healthy people on

(17:42):
the planet. Because listen, for everybody that's listening out there,
people with addictive personalities or substance abuse issues or stuff
like that, you're not defected and there's nothing wrong with you.
You're just self medicating. But if you can flip that
addictive personality and harness it properly in the right direction,

(18:03):
we are relentless savages that can literally accomplish anything that
we put our minds to. Like when I was starting
to build my company like six years ago, and listen,
and I want to do another thing real quick before
we get into it, as please. When we first were talking,
right and like we did edit it. I used to
be the chief education Officer of my Self Wellness. And

(18:25):
the reason was is because I couldn't be the owner
of my Self Wellness because I was leaving a little
boosy concert years ago and I had natepall cocaine on me.
And so the thing is is that I got arrested
for that and it turned me into a convicted bellon
and so I worked my butt off and did everything
that I was supposed to. But as a convicted bellain,
I could known a medical facility that was prescribing scheduled drugs.

(18:48):
And so I went through a process and did be
the brand ambassador and the chief education Officer of my
Self Wellness because I could do those things. But then
the Florida State of Florida, after a two years, finally
granted me an exemption so I can actually take my
ride as owner and CEO of the company. And so
for everybody that's out there that has had something that

(19:09):
they went through like that, you can do it. You
can do the right things and manifest the life of
your dreams. If I am the im and so are you,
and we're all in, we can manifest anything that we want.
We are limitless beings and the only limitations that we
have are the ones that we place upon ourselves. And
so it's like listen, like Alan Watts has a great

(19:30):
it's called the Dream of Life, and it basically is
about how like we're all, you know, God manifest or
living this dream. And I get people the analogy imagine
if you were like the architect of the universe, or
if you're the creative ever everything right, you built this
amazing roller coaster ride. It's the most amazing, fantastic roller
coaster ride you could ever possibly imagine going on. It

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had ups and downs and trials and tribulations and darkness
and light and all of these different emotions and feelings.
It's like you would want to go for a ride
on that roller coaster, but you wouldn't want to go
for a ride if you already knew what was going
to happen. So during a DMT experience years ago, I
had this massive download that came through during my experience

(20:14):
where it's like we're the droplets of water in the
ocean of consciousness and we put ourselves to sleep to
forget who we truly are so we can experience the
experience of life. So like this is just God having
a conversation with God pretending that work absolutely?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Wow, you know, Charles, from from your perspective, like, how
do psychedelics actually work? I mean not just like on
the mind, but in the soul.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
So in the soul for me, like psychedelic medicines gave
me the ability to love myself enough to actually want
to change my life. And like, you know, listen, like
I've always been a seeker, but I was always like agnostic.
I was like, oh, everything sounds great, and I want
to believe. I was raised Catholic, you know, which is
a completely different perspective than what I have now. And listen,

(21:00):
and I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything. Okay,
I'm not sitting here like I'm the Guru and I
know all and Charles is the Almighty or like I'm
God or it's like that's just a concept anyways. But
it's just my experience and that's all I'm trying to
share with people. I'm not trying to sell you on anything.
And so like it's not just that it gave me

(21:22):
the ability to love myself, but like everything is energy,
everything is frequency, right, and so like we are vibrational beings.
I believe that we are vibrating before we heal through
our trauma at a very low vibrational, very low frequency.
And when you take on the vibration of different psychedelic

(21:43):
compounds like psilocybin, mushrooms or ketamine or DMT. I truly
believe that ketamine and DMT are the two highest vibrational
crystals on the planet. And so when your body takes
on that vibration, you start to vibrate at a higher frequency,
and you start to shed off the lower vibrational stuff
that no longer serves you anymore. And then also like listen,

(22:05):
like whenever we've had any kind of traumatic experiences in
our life or just through the course of life, our
neuropathways get damaged in our brain, and when the neurons
are trying to flow through these pathways, they start to
bounce off the interior walls, which can cause a lot
of the symptoms of depression, anxiety, PTSD, ketamine, DMT, other
psychedelic compounds. They're literally going in and physiologically remapping and

(22:30):
restructuring the neuropathways in the brain. Ketamine specifically also goes
in and it hiss three sceptors that create our dopamine,
our feel good chemicals. It motivates us to get out
of bed in the morning, So your brain starts producing
higher levels of dopamine naturally, but with the neurological healing
and the increased dopamine levels, it sends you into, like

(22:50):
if you meditate on these medicines, a therapeutic dream like
state or a psychedelic experience where people are processing past traumas,
have psycho spiritual experiences and getting to the root issue,
in the root cause of why they have the symptoms
to begin with. So like these medicines, which they are medicines,
and I want to specifically say that not drugs. Medicine

(23:14):
are getting away from the pharmaceutical paradigm of let me
treat your symptom, and it's actually getting to the root issue,
in the root cause of why people have the symptoms.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, and I like that you mentioned that they're medicine
and not drugs. Do you think that the reason the
elites in the Olive Guard call them drugs is to
kind of tell you drugs means bad things to stay
away from these things.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Is that why they're called drugs? I mean, listen, man,
you know Joe Rogan talks about it, and he's like,
drugs you can put a label on that's just like
under such a big umbrella. It's like, you know, cough
syrups a drug, Nicotines a drug, caffeines a drug. I
drank some caffeine this morning with my coffee, of course.
But it's like, but then you have like drugs that
are like really bad for you, right, like like you know,

(23:57):
cocaine and even though I know there are some just
uses that will find out in the future for cocaine,
but like like methamphetamines and like heroin and stuff, and
it's like these drugs numb you and they kind of
keep you asleep and they don't let you process anything.
It just kind of keeps you in the slumber. But
then you have drugs or medicines that are actually good

(24:18):
for you, like psychedelics that do neurological healing to your
brain that you know, increase your dopamine levels or have
you know, enhanced your serotonize or increase your serotonin levels,
like all of these kind of things. Like there's a
very positive thing that's behind a lot of these medicines.
And listen, like, for sure, I definitely think that when

(24:40):
you're talking about healing people, there's no reoccurring revenue there,
and so there are you know, people out there that
would rather have society trapped on the hamster wheel rather
than actually give them the reliefs that they're looking for.
But I also think that this paradigm is shifting, and
I think that you know, there's a lot of psychedelic

(25:00):
research that's coming out that's showing the efficacy of these medicines.
I mean, listen, we have legal access to ketamine right now,
which is incredible. But I'm I'm a very big fan
of the idea of MDMA growing going through FDA approval
for PTSD treatments, and maps which turned into licos did
a study on MDMA and they gave it to people

(25:22):
that had like uncurable PTSD, like some of the worst
severe cases of it, right And during this clinical trial,
two out of three people that were given the MDMA
were cured of their diagnosis of PTSD. So we're talking like,
you know, almost seven out of ten people that went
through these trials ended up getting the diagnosis taken away.

(25:44):
Like MDMA is going to help a ton of people.
Ketamine is already helping a ton of people. Psilocybin mushrooms
are going to help a ton of people. But even
like DMT. There's a company called Algernon out there that's
doing studies with DMT for stroke victims, and it's act
there actually finding that, you know, the neurological damage that's
been done when somebody has had a stroke, if you

(26:05):
give them a microdose of d MT very quickly after that,
it can actually help. And so like, there's tons of
medicinal properties to these medicines, and and like they're all
Schedule one right now, which is something that's classified as
not having any medicinal properties to it, so we all
know that that isn't the case. So all of the

(26:25):
studies are showing this. So I really feel strongly that
we'll be seeing a transition in this paradigm very soon.

Speaker 5 (26:32):
Absolutely chars PTSD. I'm a military veteran, and I know
a lot of folks that even if they did two,
two or four years in the military, still came out
with PTSD. Are you or have you work with other
veterans to help cure the PTSD in some fashion?

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So honestly, like we have access with ketamine right now
to a medicine that is helping people with PTSD to
a level that nobody at my clinic, into including our
medical director who's our head psychiatrist and he's been practicing
for over fifty years, has ever seen before. This stuff
is pulling veterans and people straight out of suicidal ideation.

(27:15):
My favorite story to tell is I had a marine
that came in and he was like, listen, man, I'm
going to give it one shot, one treatment, even though
it's a six treatment protocol. And he's like, and if
this one doesn't help me, I'm going to go home.
And I'm ending because I can't take this anymore. I'm like,
just give us a second, let me work with you.
Does his first treatment, goes into the room and after

(27:36):
he comes out of his session, I walk in and
he's just bah. He's got tears coming down his eyes
and I'm like, hey man, I wasn't and he goes,
I turned into a bird, he goes. I was flying
over the landscape and it was so beautiful and I
don't know how to explain it, but everything's connected. The
answer is love, and I don't want to hurt myself.

(27:56):
It was like a light switch had gone off, and
so like with you know our nonprofit which actually Christina
and I have like momentarily shut down for a minute
just because I wasn't really raising money through it, but
we were giving tons of treatments away, which was the
Warriors of Consciousness, And we'll activate it up here shortly again.
But the thing is is that Christina, who's my other half,
and I have actually donated over one hundred people free

(28:19):
treatments at our facility, tons of military personnel. We are
collaborating with another nonprofit organization here locally where we've been
putting veterans through treatments for free. And almost all of
the veterans that we have treated with ketamine, we've pretty
much got all of them off all their pharmaceutical medications.

(28:39):
We've got them away from drinking, We've got them away
from pretty much everything that was ailing them one way
or another in life. Like I had a guy who's
like a high profile be and it was after his
fourth treatment, and like this was a guy who didn't
think he was like this is crazy, like oh yeah, sure,
psychedelics are going to help me whatever. And after his

(29:01):
four stream and he comes and he knocks on my
office store and he's like, hey, man, you got him minute,
and I'm like yeah, and he's like, why isn't a
VA telling everybody about this? He goes, they had me
on six different medications and I'm already off all of
them already, and I still have two treatments. He's like,
what's going on, dude, And like the guy had a
traumatic brain injury and everything, and like we're seeing amazing
results with that. Like, listen, I'm not saying that the

(29:24):
VA is a bad organization by any means. I think
they help a lot of veterans and that's not my messages,
but I think there's a lack of education out here,
and I think it goes back to what you're talking
about with the stigmas that these are drugs, even though
you ready Ketamine is an FDA approved anesthetic. That's but
it's FDA approved in nineteen seventy. It's one of, if

(29:45):
not the safest, least toxic anaesthetics on the market. It's
so safe it's the number one choice for pediatric sedation,
so they give it to children one and a half
older and one and a half and older for surgeries
because of this safety profile. It here's one of the
big stigmas Hey, isn't ketamine a horse franquilizer. Yes, Ketamine

(30:07):
is so safe that they use it on animals as
well because of the safety profile. A cat is a
good example. Any other kind of anesthesia out there would
kill a cat, but ketamine is so safe you can
give it to cats too. So, like, if my six
year old needed surgery, they would use ketamine on them
because it's so safe. I had my stomach, I had

(30:29):
like a tummy tuck done about five and a half
months ago because I lost one hundred and eleven pounds.
They used ketamine on my surgery because it was so safe.
Not that I'm a huge fan of or want to
say it's good or bad. I'm just saying it's on
the World Health Organization's top ten essential medications. So like

(30:49):
people really have this negative perspective on ketamine, but like
it's been utilized from like a half a century. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
Yeah, the things that you they you don't know until
you until you know Charles so kenymine, is that something
that you have to ask for at the hospital or
is it do they give to you by default or
how you get it?

Speaker 3 (31:14):
So like, so like I mean for us at my clinic,
people come to us specifically for ketymine therapy. If my so,
my one of my stepsons, he just turned eighteen, but
when he was thirteen, he fell off a bike and
he dislocated his arm, and when he got to the hospital,
they gave him ketymine so they could reset his arm.
It's like it's also you know, used in operating rooms

(31:37):
for surgeries. Ambulances. Ketymine is on the back of every
ambulance out there, and if somebody is being combative in
the middle of public they will actually give them a
much much larger dose of ketymine on the spot than
we're doing at my facility because of the safety profile
for it. So it's like it's being used in a

(31:57):
ton of different ways. It's just the lack of public
education about this. And then listen, I want to go
ahead and address it because I'm sure people are like,
but isn't that what killed Matthew Perry. Okay, It's like no.
So after a deep dive with the autopsy, I took
a look at everything and it's just not me. It's like,
you know, doctors and friends alike. Matthew Perry was on
a cocktail of different medications Okay, he was on a

(32:21):
benzo diazepin. He was on buprenorpin, which is basically like
suboxin or subutex. It's an opiate blocker, and he was
recreationally abusing ketamine where his assistant supposedly had administered it
twenty seven times in like a forty eight hour period.
All right, but listen, Tetamine's an anesthetic surgery, right, so,

(32:42):
like you know, you take a big enough dose of it,
lights go out and then you wake up, you don't
remember the surgery. Well, if you were to get into
a bed of water and you had an anesthetic dose
of ketamine in you, it means you'd probably like go
into an anesthetic state, go under the water, drowned, and
then people would be like, oh kedemine kill them, But

(33:04):
it's not really what happened, and so like, no, it's
a very unfortunate situation. This is why my self Wellness
our facility does not send ketymine home with people. There
are other companies out there where you can get at
home kedemine and stuff like that. I'm going to sit
here right now and say I took a stance against
this a long time ago. We do not do that
I think it's reckless, and I think I can give

(33:26):
you a million positive stories about how it's helping people heal,
but that's not what's going to make the headlines. It's
going to be the one unfortunate situation where somebody takes
it in a hot tub and something very bad. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Now that actually makes me think that because you mentioned
how they give kedymine to kids and they forget you know,
they have a surgery and stuff. Because like I think,
somewhere under thirteen year years old, I broke this arm
in four different places, and I remember they gave me
something that I was in and out of them.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
I'm putting my arm back together.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
I remember screaming and then going back out, and then
I woke up, and then my mom's there and then
I'll go back out and stuff. I wonder if that
was kenemedy, because I completely I remember a little bit
of it, but not a whole lot of it. So
when you mentioned that, I'm thinking I wonder if it
was kenemine. That was like thirty something years ago plus.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
So yeah, no, I'm I'm sure it probably was. Like listen, like,
they don't use ketamine on adults as much anymore. They
still use it on kids all the time. But the
reason that they don't is because a lot of people
when they have ketamine for surgery or something like that,
have these experiences okay, and so like, you know, adults

(34:42):
are coming out of surgeries and they're like, did I die?
I met God? You know, I was with angels like oh,
and the doctors couldn't explain it and it was throwing
people for a loop. But children can have a very
magical experience and it doesn't really throw them for and
so it's not used as much and adults as it.

Speaker 5 (35:01):
Is interesting interesting just if a kid comes out and
says some kind of magical experiences like ah, you know
as a kid and the imagination, you know, he had
a nice sleepy time. But when an adult comes out
of it, they're like, yeah, let's let's suppress that situation.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
You can go online right now and like Google or
like go on YouTube and type in like ketamine and
children experiences, and there's literally videos of kid that are
kids that are in the hospital that are being administered
ketamine and they're talking about being with Jesus, like I'm
with Jesus right now, and they're like having a full

(35:40):
conversation with like Jesus or angels or these kind of experiences,
and it's like on film, you can literally watch it
happening in real time in a way, and so it's
like it's not just me, and it's not just like
I know, it sounds crazy to most people out there
that'll be like, oh, they're just high on drugs. But like,
the thing is is that it's fun because like even

(36:00):
at our facility, people come out and they're talking about
the same kind of experiences and they've never spoke to
anybody before about it. They like, you know, like it's
not like a shared experience or whatever. It's being described
in a very similar fashion, continuously over and over and
over again. And so that's when you go take a
look at this kind of stuff and say, hey, listen,

(36:22):
like there might be something to this.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Yeah, you mentioned Jesus, especially also when you had your
your interaction, your encounter and stuff. So if you're not
a religious guy, why do you think Jesus appear to you?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
You know what? Man, Listen, like, I think Jesus was
an ascended master, you know. And like the thing is too,
is like listen, like I don't think that there's any
hierarchy either though, So, like my personal beliefs is that,
like I, you know, I think Jesus had a massive
awakening and then realized that we were all in and
uh probably went around trying to tell everybody and that

(36:58):
wasn't really good, end up getting in into a lot
of trouble, yeah, you know. And so like the thing
is is that, like I think that anybody that gets
out here and starts telling messages like that, I mean,
listen to like it goes against the narrative, and then
that takes away the controlling power. It's like, oh wait
a second, Like we're all on the same playing field here,

(37:19):
and like I don't need to take orders from somebody
because we're all it, you know. And and so like
I think that, you know, and I don't know why
Jesus came to me, but I can tell you this though,
like on another DMT experience where I was on another
ship with a bunch of little beings and this was
actually like then listen, like I don't take psychedelics. I'll

(37:39):
get into that in a minute. But this was like
six years ago, Okay, it was probably almost like maybe
closer to seven years ago. Six and a half years ago,
and so like I was in another industry. I was
working for an international PR company. I got back from
Mexico from a trade show, and I knew I wasn't
supposed to be doing what I was doing. I was
like this trade show out at dinner with a bunch

(38:01):
of CEOs, high profile people, and I'm like, yeah, everybody's
talking about business and I'm like, yeah, DMT MDMA, you know,
like saved my life. And I came back and I'm
just like, I'm not supposed to be doing this. And
so I was like, I'm gonna do some DMT. I'm
gonna see if I get some guidance. And I ended
up on another ship all of these little beings, and
there was like these big giant like tubes like where

(38:24):
I could tell they were like genetically like working on
different species of aliens and people. And there was like
children on the ship, like with blonde hair, like white
hair almost with these big big eyes. I would say
they were like star children, right. And I look outside
the window of the ship and I see Vishnu, like

(38:45):
the blue Hindu god with all of the arms and
he's like djaying energy fields over all of the planets
with his arms, and so it's like I never even
considered him in my head. And so it's like, yeah,
Jesus came to me, but like I also had a
vishn New experience and I was never raised that way.

(39:07):
So like so like here's the thing. It's like I
think there's a lot more to this, or like like
another DMT experience before I tell what the message was.
I was up in these rooms with like Buddha and
Hanuman and like all of these people, like I didn't
even know who they were, and it was like the
highest vibrational place I think you could probably go to
where I was in a room with all the gods.
And so it's like it wasn't just a Christian kind

(39:30):
of experience for me. It was it was almost all
of it. But when I was on that ship, when
I was looking for this like guidance and I saw
vishnw DJing all the energy or whatever, all of a sudden,
this massive flood comes into my brain, this download, and
it's like you're supposed to quit your job and you're
supposed to take a leap of faith and start this

(39:51):
company that's going to help people heal. And it's not
really a leap of faith because you're in divine synchronicity
with the universe and everything. And so I go upstairs
at that time, and then you know, Chris, because like
you know, I did it at home, which I don't
suggest people recreationally use psychedelics all my message. But I
went upstairs and I said to Christina and I said, listen.

(40:11):
I said, I'm going to quit my job and we're
going to take a leap of faith and start this
company to help people heal. And she's like, yeah, we
have a six month old son, and you are not
quitting your job to take a leap of faith because
we need security. And you sound crazy right now. Yeah,
Aliens told you to do this or whatever. And I'm like, listen,
if I went through twenty years worth of his misery

(40:33):
and don't use what helped me to help other people,
it seems like a waste of twenty years of my life.
And so reluctantly but supportingly, she was like, all right,
let's do it. And so I quit my jobs, took
a leap of faith, we started my self Wellness and
we did our first treatment a week before the lockdown.
And so I'm like, the hardest time in history to

(40:53):
start a company. We were an essential business because we
were a medical facility, and I'm like, it's just a test.
I'm like, it's just test. We have to keep our
vibration high, utilize the laws of attraction, keep on putting,
helping the next person first, and everything else is going
to fall into place. And fast forward to where we're
at now. We're roughly coming up on around like twenty

(41:16):
thousand treatments that we've done from our facility. We have
over a ninety percent success rate, and that means getting
people symptom relief, getting people off all their pharmaceutical medications,
getting people off sentanyl addiction, alcohol abuse problems, cocaine addiction.
And so it's like, now you've got to ask yourself,
was this just a trip or was it real? Did

(41:36):
I really receive this message that I was supposed to
be doing this, And like, I'll go ahead and take
it even further because I'm ready to actually talk about
it now and I haven't for the last two years.
But so like out of the synchronicity of the universe,
now I am, you know, one of the founders of
a new company that's getting ready to get launched called
the Loosest and it's a resort in the Caribbean where

(42:01):
we are going to be the first place to offer
extended state DMT to people that you can come have
these experiences with government approval. It's legal, and it's a
beautiful resort where not only are we allowed to use DMT,
but we have a license to utilize every psychedelic compound
on the planet. And so, and I'm working with some

(42:24):
incredible people, one of them being doctor Andrew Gallimore, who
created the DMTX protocol with Rick Strassman. And so it's
like I'm here with messages I received on DMT like
a decade ago that I was supposed to do all
of this stuff making contact with entities, and now you know,

(42:45):
the work I'm getting ready to do is based around
healing people and contact with entities. And so it's like, listen,
there was a study that was done not long ago
at Imperial College of London by a scientist named Chris Zimmerman,
and so I'm like, you know, between him and Andrew,
like these guys are like, you know, the holy Grail

(43:06):
DMT other than Rick right now, and we're collaborating with
him as well. But the thing is is that during
his study at Imperial, they were sending people into DMTX
experiences and people were making contact with the same beings,
retrieving the same information, bringing it back from these experiences
and talking about it. And the way that we started

(43:27):
getting ready to collaborate with Chris was I was in
Colorado as something called Psychedelic Science and it's like the
biggest psychedelic conference in the world. And one of my
friends invited me to a party, very private party that
I wasn't invited to, and I get there with Christina
and a couple of my other team members and like
it's all like these like scientists and pioneers in the industry.

(43:50):
It's like, you know, there's celebrities there and everything, and
I'm like, oh, this is cool. It's like, you know,
it's at a private house and there's a dinner and everything,
and the guys that were throwing the part they come
up to me and they're like who are you, And
I'm like, oh, well, you know, I'm Charles. I'm one
of the founders of Eleusis. And we started start telling
them about my self wellness or whatever, and I was like, yeah,

(44:11):
I'm not supposed to be here and they're like, yeah,
we know. And I was like, but I think I
am supposed to be here and they're like, yeah, you are.
And so it just happened that Chris Timmerman was at
that party, okay, and so I walk up to him
and I'm like, hey, man, I'm like, you're the man
like I was like, yeah, thank you so much for
all the work you've done, had these experiences years ago,

(44:33):
and I was telling him about all of the stuff
that happened to me, and his basically his study at
Imperial was like are these experiences real? And I was
just like, so listen, do you want my take on it?
And he's like yeah. And I said, I got contact,
and I had these messages to do everything that I'm
doing in my life, and I followed it like a blueprint,

(44:55):
like it was the message from the universe, and I
took it seriously. And I said, now I'm standing in
Colorado at a party that I wasn't invited to, talking
to Chris Timmerman, and I said, and here we are
talking about d mt X And I said, so what
do you think, man? I go because I know they're real.
And so it was like at that moment where he

(45:16):
kind of looked at me and I looked at him,
and we gave each other a big hug, and it
was like, all right, dude, you know, like let's let's
let's try to do some amazing work. Man. But like
you know, it's like, so I can talk mental health,
and I can talk neuroplasticity, and I can talk about
a number of different things, but like, at the end
of the day, this is about the transformation of humanity

(45:37):
to a higher state of consciousness. At the end of
the day, this is about raising the collective vibration of
this planet. And I truly believe that at the end
of the day that this is all going to lead
to some sort of disclosure because from one of my experiences,
they're already here, man, They're just at a different frequency, okay,

(45:57):
And so the truth is they're like, here's your beyond
the frequency, right. It's like they're just at a different frequency. Man,
They're not in physical form. And so the thing is
is that once we and I'm sure that there are
some that are okay, don't get me wrong, but once
we keep on raising the vibration, a lot more is
going to be presented to us than meets the eye.

(46:20):
And that was one of the questions that I asked
during my first experience when I was on that first
ship a long time ago. I was like, how come
you don't tell anybody that you're real? The answer I
got was people are ready. It would send the society
into a complete shutdown, Like it's like people would be
scared to leave their houses. And the truth is is
that the funniest part behind all of it is it's

(46:43):
like they love us so much, man Like. That was
the message that I got the whole time. It's like,
we love you, we want to help you, we're trying
to guide you all of the time. And you know
a lot of people would have came out of that
experience and said, Wow, what a crazy trip, and I
was just like, Okay, here we go, let's see how
far we can take it.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
That's the Charles, that's the perspective that I'm at. My
understanding is that it's all love. These these beings, if
they're in our frequency, it's it's it's because of love.
But there's a lot of people that you've probably come
across as well, that don't feel like it's all about love.
They feel like these entities are here with some mal intent.
They're demonic, they're here to possess you, to control things.

(47:26):
When you come across people like that and you're talking
about love and they're talking about the opposite, how do
you how do you.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Balance that conversation. So, like I can tell you what
my truth is and it might not sit well with
some people, but it's just that's it. Everything, everything's perfect
and it always has been there. Yeah. So it's like
whether you want to think these experiences are good, bad

(47:54):
or whatever. I think it's all just a concept because
good and bad are concepts. I think that everything, you know,
when we're talking about hermetic philosophy, it's just pilarities, right,
And so it's like listen, like you know, like I
definitely think that you could say there's some dark stuff
going on, but that's a concept. And like so it's like,
you know, I think that this is the evolution of consciousness,

(48:17):
and so I know that sometimes we have to go
through the dark to get to the light. Yeah, and
so like like, you know, do I think that all
of these beings are benevolent and having, you know, a
good intention for everything? Maybe not. I've never really encountered
any like that. But I'm sure if there's the ones
that I met that are all love and light, I'm

(48:38):
sure there has to be an under end of the
spectrum too. But like in the oneness of everything, where
separation is an illusion and this is all just a concept,
this is the synchronoustic flow of the evolution of consciousness.
I didn't get to where I'm at because I lived
a life of roses and rainbows. I went through some
seriously dark times in my life, and so like I'm

(49:01):
not saying it was good or bad, it just is.
But like you know, I used to look up at
the sky when I was hooked on opiates and I'd
be dope sick, and I'd be like, God, why are
you doing this to me? How come I can't get
my life together? How come I get get sober? I
just want to be like everybody else. Like now I
look back at those times and I'm like, thank you,
I'm like I get it now. Through my suffering, I

(49:24):
found awakening. Through my suffering, I found my purpose, and
now it's my purpose to be of service and help
other people come out of that dark place. But like
one of the things that's very powerful about like my being,
like like who I am is is I've been through it, man,
And so people actually listen to me and they trust
me and they take me seriously because like I've walked

(49:46):
a mile on their shoes. Oh you're shooting dope. I've
been there, and you can completely transform your life. You
have a felony charge and you think that is the
end for you and you can't ever make something near yourself.
I've been there, and it's not true because I am
And so it's just like these are all the limited
beliefs that we place upon ourselves and and us looking
at things like bad, Like listen, I live a life

(50:08):
of stoicism now where it's like it used to be
why is this happening to me? Then it went to
why is this happening for me? And then now I'm
at a different place where it's what is consciousness? Learning? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:26):
Beautiful, beautiful, you know, And I've I've I've mentioned the
same thing too in the past, that you know, good
and bad is a label, you know that we put
on the experience because at the end of the day,
it's just an experience and a lot of people are
just stuck into Oh this is bad during that victim

(50:47):
mentality like you spoke about, and and it's hard for
them to get out of it. So on that same note,
there's somebody right now, Charles that is in their darkest
day as their list to this or watching this, what
would you tell them as an advice for how they
can change their life starting today.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
It's not over. You can do it. Don't look at
where you're at right now is your final destination. Just
look at it as a stepping zone in getting to
the place that you want to be, your need to be.
And so it's like we go through the dark to
get to the light so we can be of service
and go back in the dark and help other people out,

(51:32):
all right. And so it's like, if you're going through
some seriously dark times right now, it's not punishment, it's preparation,
all right. You just have to keep ongoing. You have
to keep on pushing through it. Discipline, like get in
there and really like work at this, Like you know,
it's like, find what's dark about my life and start

(51:56):
taking any action that you can to pull yourself out
of that dark place. But never think that this is
something that is happening to me, because like you were
saying the victim mentality, where it's just like I was
just dealt this crappy hand and this is my life forever.
If you keep ongoing and keep on healing, you will
get to the place eventually where you have that aha

(52:18):
moment and you're like, oh my gosh, I get it now.
I know why I went through that. It's because I
was supposed to help people in this way, and if
I wouldn't have went through that suffering, I wouldn't be
equipped to actually lead people out of that sage. Absolutely well,
said Charles.

Speaker 5 (52:36):
Charles on a personal note, You've been through so much
in your life, but you're just a man trying to
live your life, have have your human experience. So what's
something that still makes you laugh or gives you joy
no matter what's going on in your life?

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Man? Like, I love like being around good, like minded,
high vibrational people that don't see limitations and we can
build together and really make an impact. What makes me
laugh and have a good time as being around friends
or family or like my son, I love him so much,
he's he's so much fun to be around. And you know,

(53:16):
and it's like listen, like I get my joy out
of going through the process of this transformation. I mean, listen,
like I'm in a great place now, but like I
keep on leveling up, and that's what this is. You know.
It's funny. I tell people life is like a video game, right,
you know, whether you believe it's a simulation or not.
But it's like Mario Brothers always comes to mind. Okay,

(53:37):
it's like, what did Mario do? Like ran around, he
ate Aminito miscaria mushrooms, which are a psychedelic mushroom, and
it would like grow him into this bigger, better version
of himself. And then he was going through the levels
and leveling up, and so I kind of like look
at myself like Mario. Sometimes it's just like you know, hey, man,
like listen, like it's sometimes it's not easy going through

(54:00):
the levels, but knowing that when I'm uncomfortable and when
I'm going through it, it's because I am being molded
into the person that I need to be to receive
the manifestations that I put out into the Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
I every time I hear about the comparison of how
we're in a video game, I've never heard the Mario one.
That's a good one, especially with you and the mushrooms
and there him growing to be bigger than what than
what than what he is and then have a bigger.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Perspective of life.

Speaker 5 (54:32):
I love that you mentioned family and friends, Charles, Like,
how has your personal life, friends, family relationships, how have
they've shifted since you stepped into this new version of
your of yourself.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
I'm I'm like, not, I'm good to be around now
because I wasn't for a long time, you know, like
my family couldn't stand me, and like people didn't want
to be around me because I was reckless and I
was always is high or you know, I wasn't fun
to be around. And listen, like, I'm I hold myself
accountable these days. If I say I'm going to be
there for somebody, if I say I'm going to do something,

(55:09):
I am. I'm a man of my word now and
I embody what I preach. Man, I'm not just sitting
here like you know, yeah, Like it's like I really
live this and on a daily basis, I am exactly
who I say I am and I'm not perfect by
any means, but like you know, I'm always continuously working
to become a better and better version of myself. I
am the father that I didn't have growing up that
I wish I would have had, and you know what

(55:31):
like that and I can acknowledge that, and I'm very
proud of that because my son is everything that I
wish that I was when I was his age. Not
that I don't not that I'm not grateful for everything
that I went through to get to where I'm at,
but like, you know, like he does breath work, and
he's like, you know, meditates here and there, and he

(55:53):
you know, he talks about the matrix and like just
like he literally is like super lit man. He's an
enlightened little boy that was given all of the love
that you know, I wish I would have had, even
when it comes to like cimatics and simatic frequencies. Like
when he was a baby, I used to hold him
up like this and I would just sit there and
go and I would speak that on to him. So

(56:17):
like if anybody knows about the doctor Emoto studies, where
you know, they took the water molecules and they said
different things to him, it's like our words are more
powerful than we could possibly imagine. So be mindful not
only what you say to other people, but especially what
you say about yourself, because we are programming ourselves at
a cellular level to become the man.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
Charles, another well well spoken spiel there.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
That's awesome. I love that.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
And when you talk about your son, I saw the
light in you. You lit up a little bit there,
and I love seeing that. Appreciate you sharing that with
me and everybody else. I feel the same way about
my I have a seventeen year old and a fourteen
year old sons, and I think they're me two point zero. Oh,
you know everything, like you said, everything that I that

(57:03):
I wasn't there, they are who that and then hopefully
they pass it on to though, So I resonate with that.
All right, So, Charles, as we are wrapping up this episode,
I always like to ask these questions to all my guests,
the same questions that I've asked everybody else.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
There's no right or wrong answer, just yours. Are you
ready for those? Okay?

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Beyond all the knowledge and experience that you've gained, what
still leaves you in awe and still makes a question everything?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
So all right, what leaves me in awe makes me
question everything? Is like, Hey, is this simulation or b
is this a manifestation of the collective mind of God
that we're not putting nothing separate from And then like
the back to a if this is a simulation or

(57:52):
a computer simulation of some sort, then are we nothing
separate from it? And we actually are? We actually all
ai so like and listen, like I don't think that.
I think that both answers can be right. But the
only hiccup, and this is what really leaves me in
awe and questioning everything is like I think I might

(58:12):
be slightly on the spectrum, so I see a lot
of things like that might not be noticed. I'm very
good at pattern recognition and things like that, and so
like I see glitches in the simulation or even like
when people talk or even when I talk sometimes I
can feel it stick a little bit and it sounds
like there's a glitch within the matrix. And so like,

(58:34):
at that point, well, if everything was divine and it
was all the manifestation of the collective mind of God,
I don't know if that imperfectness would be there. But
then I was talking to Christina the other night and
she's like, maybe it was programmed that'd be there, like,
and it is perfect just because this was supposed to
be the little breadcrumbs.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Absolutely, Charles, what is the ultimate purpose of life in
your definition?

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Love? Listen, man, So like I am love, God is love.
We're all love. We just got to get back to it.
And so, like I tell people when they're going through
Ketemie treatments at my facility, I'm like, think of this
as this big onion, and we have all these layers
that we need to peel away, and each time you

(59:20):
do a treatment, appeels another layer of the onion away
until you get to the core of who we truly are.
And it's like, that's love. It's all love. We've just
got to get back to it. And I truly think
that that's what the evolution of what we're going through is.
It's all just bringing us back to God, to oneness,

(59:41):
to love. And if we're all the droplets of water
in the ocean of consciousness, and we're the manifestor's reality
and the co creators of existence because we're all the divine, well,
then like, the more that we heal collectively, the more
that we could collectively manifest a UTOPI scenario, whether you

(01:00:01):
want to call it five D consciousness. I recently had
a conversation with Christina where we actually almost don't even
think it's dimensional anymore, but it's actually all frequency. So
I would like to refer to it as like the
frequency maybe because it's all happening and it's already here,
it's just at a different frequency. Yeah, I'm I totally

(01:00:23):
resonate with that. People like to we talked about separation
is an illusion.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
So anytime that we say like it's a different dimensional
space or we're transitioning from this to that, it's all
talking about separation.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
So I resonate with what you said. It's all here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
It's never it's we're just changing we the meatsuit, we
are changing our frequency to be to resonate with it,
but it's always here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
So I had an epiphany not long ago. There was
like a like a download I got during a meditative state.
It basically was like, if we're all in, this is
just God doing shadow, you know, and like so like listen,
like it's like because don't think of it as good
or bad. It's an evolution. It's like this evolution of
God of consciousness where we had to live in a

(01:01:14):
state of duality so we could learn all of the
lessons that needed to be learned, and then once we
learn everything that we need from being in a state
of duality, we can heal enough collectively or God can
do the shadow work to manifest nonduality. Where you know,
it's like it is that kind of utopic scenario that

(01:01:37):
I truly believe in my heart of hearts that we're actually.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
At Yeah, as above so below with that, so with that, right,
if we are if you know, you know we as
as humans, we grow and we grow also and we
get better with experience.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
So this is the micro.

Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
The macro is the same thing. The spirit, the spiritual
side of us is doing the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
It's just growing. It's the absolute. It's where I like
to live my life. That we're everything. Man, we are
the stars, the universe, everything, all at the same time.
We're just pretending. Yes, Charles, what is in your understanding?
What is God? I don't think it's what everybody think

(01:02:25):
it is thinks it is. I like I'm not sure.
I like I think that So like here it goes
back to my like question again. I mean, like, so listen,
if we're all one collective consciousness, there has to be divine,
masculine and feminine energy. Okay, So that means that, like
I don't know, it's like, is God a guy or
a girl? I don't think. I think that's just a concept.

(01:02:46):
I think that it's divine, feminine and masculine energy that
manifests into everything that we all are, like whether that
you know, like the Big Bang or whatever. I guess
you could just call that, like, you know, the beginning
of God's dream. But that being said, so then if
we have to go to the other end of the
spectrum where it's like is this an AI simulation, then

(01:03:06):
that leads to much deeper questions like well, if this
is all AI, who created the simulation? Okay? And then
Elon's big question where it's like, yeah, they asked him
like you know, if you could ask AI one question
and get an answer, what would it be? He said,
what's outside the simulation? And so it's like, if this

(01:03:27):
is the simulation, it was like, was it created by
some sort of extraterrestrial or higher dimensional beings that you know,
listen man, For all we know, we could be sitting
on some higher dimensional beings kids bedroom shelf. Because we
were a science experience meant that we don't even realize.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
We are you, you are you telepathics sometimes because because
I actually was I was just thinking about the whole
scenario of with just some on some kids computer whatever,
and then you mentioned that, So that's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
So I will say this that if we're all one
collective consciousness or whatever we are, yeah, film, we're all
connected already. We're all connected already.

Speaker 5 (01:04:14):
Yeah, yeah, I love that in Charles, and you're understanding
in your definition what's love.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Love would be like the highest vibrational place on the spectrum,
I guess you could say so like if there was
a polarity where like it was all on this thing
that was like it was like on this linear place
where it's like on one end of the spectrum you
have the lowest vibrational place, which could be like you know, hate,
lust and like like all of like I hate not

(01:04:43):
getting religious with it, but probably what would be considered
all the sins, right they say, like you know, gluttony, lust, hate,
like all of these things, separation, competition, like all of
that kind of scenario. It would be lower vibrational states,
and like that would be like where the dark are
the black moves into the red and like all of
the through the spectrum of light. I think that love

(01:05:07):
would be where it's what's the color of purple that's
at the highest end of the spectrum. It's like it's
like the light purple, yea, like a violet, but like
so like, I think that like love would be all
of the positive beautiful things, the non separation, the oneness,

(01:05:28):
the high vibrational place where you know we're working symbiotically
as one rather than running in all these different directions
in a competitive state of mind where we're causing more chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
Absolutely, Yeah, competition is killing us right now, just in
all aspects.

Speaker 3 (01:05:49):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:50):
If you could go back in time to talk to
you know, young Charles, young Charles figuring things out, teenage Charles,
what would you tell him today?

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Stay in your breath. Stay in your breath, man, it's
all going to be okay, it's actually going to be better. Okay,
it's going to be the most amazing life you could
have ever possibly imagined having. When you when you're steeling down,
just know that everything is magic, and everything's magical, and
your life is going to be more magical than it ever. Yeah,

(01:06:21):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:21):
I talked to a person offline same question, and they
actually told me that it came full circle to them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
They were young, uh and uh. An entity appeared to them,
gave him some advice things like that. They took that
advice and ran with it fast forward. As an adult,
they were able to do outer body experiences. They ended
up tapping back into that to that time point, you know,
to that period in time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
And then they reflect and.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Realized that was me that went back and told myself that,
and it came full circle. It was a beaut It's
a beautiful thing the way the way he told his story.
So that's why I like to ask that question there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Well, hey, hold on real quick man. So like this
this is where Ramdas comes through. Right, It's like we're
all just here to walk each other home back to
one right. So, like it's like believe it or not.
People think that synchronicity is something outside of them, and
it's like, oh, this is the universe giving me signs

(01:07:23):
or angel numbers that I'm heading in the right direction.
And I used to be there. I used to believe this,
right until you actually realize one day that you're synchronicity itself,
that your higher self is the one that led all
of these breadcrumbs here to bring you back home into
one of us. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
Absolutely, Charles, one hundred and ten percent. People always were
always indoctrinated to believe it and program to believe that
everything's outside of us. Like if you if you're sick,
don't hear yourself because you don't know anything, Go to
a doctor. If something's wrong with your head, don't talk
to yourself because you're crazy, go to a therapist, you know,

(01:08:00):
if you wanna, If you wanna, if you want to
support and guidance, don't don't look inward, look outward, look
out to the universe. But no one ever teaches you
to go into the u inverse, you know. So this
is this is that thing that we need to spread
to everybody and tell everybody you're powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Remember who you are.

Speaker 5 (01:08:17):
You've always been that, you know, Charles, How can people
find you if they want to reach out to you
and support everything that you're doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
So my Instagram Handles Charles Underscore Patty Underscore Official on Facebook,
I'm just Charles Patty P A T. T. I. If
you want to check out my clinic Myself Wellness, It's
myself Wellness dot Com. That's where we do our ketemine therapy.
And if you are interested in taking part in d
M t X at Eleusis, it's Eleusis, E L E U,

(01:08:48):
S I, S MINDMI n D dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Absolutely, and folks, I would have all those links below
in the descriptions. You'd be able to scroll dives to show,
click and go and enjoy, Wait, love it, Charles, Before
we wrap things up here and I go out to
my outro, is there a last piece of advice, a
message that you would like to lead with the audience, So,
like with what.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
You just talked about, the only way out is in okay.
And then on top of that, like listen like I
am the im and so are you, and we're all
at we're just pretending that we're not. So I guess
my biggest message to everyone out there would be observe
without judgment and remember that the answer is always loved,
well said. And Charles, I could speak to you for hours.

Speaker 5 (01:09:34):
We have a whole lot more to talk about, and
hopefully you had a good time today on this episode,
and hopefully you'll be able to come back for a
part too, and could hit some other topics as as well.
It was a pleasure having you on here, and we'll
definitely stay connected after this show as we continue moving
on with our own journeys as well. And folks, don't forget,

(01:09:56):
I have a website on a frequency three sixty nine
dot com. You'll find all the information that you need
to learn more about.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
Me, my mission, my goal.

Speaker 5 (01:10:05):
It's all about remembering who you are before the world
convinced you otherwise. See if it resonates with you watch
the episodes. It's not about the message in the conversation
that's being had, but it's the fact that you're listening
and something in that something in that episode triggers a
remembrance in you to go do something greater and pass

(01:10:25):
that on forward.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
So with that being said, folks, I love you, I
see you, I hear you, I am you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Continue to ask questions, don't be afraid to pull back
the current, take a deeper look, push forward, always reaching
beyond the frequency

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