Quitting a 6-Figure Career to Live the Truth: Andre “The Alchemist 369” Miller on OBEs, Egypt & The Construct

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
So I'm like, Okay, the next step for me is
to leave my body and see this for myself.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh that's what I did, man.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And so at first I left my body. I was
just making sure, like I can leave and stuff. But
eventually what I did was I got outside of the
construct because I have to see this, right, I have
to see this, you know.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
So I leave my body.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm outside of the construct, and I'm looking at Now
what do I see? I see a firmment above it.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I see a firmament above it.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Inside of there is where I see the realms. There
was no planets, no stars in that construct. In this construct,
there is no planets. There's no stars. There are, but they're.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
In the firmament.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
And it's just light projected into here.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's just light.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Projected in the here.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
And you can even duplicate this with an experiment.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
If you shine light and water, it looks just it's
like a star. When you look at the stars through
a telescope, it looks like light and water. So you
can duplicate this. What if I told you that everything
you know is just the beginning. Beyond the veil of
the ordinary lies a realm of hidden knowledge, ancient wisdom
and untapped potential, a place where consciousness expands, reality.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Bends, and the impossible becomes possible. You weren't meant to
stay asleep. You were meant to awaken. Open your mind,
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(01:46):
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Let's start the show. Welcome back to another episode of
Beyond the Frequency three six y nine. We're hidden knowledge,
expanded awareness, and the power of consciousness come together to
help you remember who you truly are. I'm your host,

(02:13):
Caesar Pragat. Today's episode is special. My guest is someone
many of you know from a previous episode. He was
on earlier this year. You guys can check out the
link right above. Andre Miller. Now some of you may
know him as the Alchemist three six y nine, but
I just call him a good friend. His voice has

(02:33):
become a powerful presence in the collective awakening, offering deep
insights into consciousness, frequency, and the unseen layers of our reality.
But today he's not just here to share knowledge. He's
here to make an important announcement, one that marks a
bold new chapter in his journey, and he's chosen to
share it here today for all of you. So Andre,

(02:57):
that Mike is yours.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Well, Caesar, I just want to thank you for having
me on again. It's always a pleasure, you know when
we get together. For sure, for sure. And yeah, so
as you were saying, the announcement I'm making is, uh,
I have since decided to quit my uh, you know,
six figure project engineering job and I am now pursuing

(03:20):
the mission of spreading the message of the other side
full time. So that that's what I'm doing, and that's
kind of where I'm at right now.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So Andre, that's you know, when you and I, you
and I obviously we talked off offline about this. When
you made that announcement to me, I was I was
not only what was I proud and excited for you,
but you know I was a little bit thrown thrown
back like wow, like what a what a huge change,
you know, to leave everything that you know to go

(03:52):
into the unknown, and that's an embodiment of what you're doing,
you know, to leave the physical and to go into
the unknown, which is the outer body experience. So you're
living that both you know, consciously and physically all around.
And I'm just grateful for you to be able to
be here today and share that with my audience and
your audience a little bit more further as we get

(04:14):
into the conversation.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, thank you, man, And yeah, that's exactly that, you know,
the fear of the unknown is what sets a lot
of people. It puts a lot of people in a
cage because if you don't know something, you're scared to
go that way, right, And it's the same type of
faith that you need to have when having an out
of body experience because you don't necessarily know what awaits you.
But as you dive in and you just have faith

(04:40):
that you are divinely guided and protected at all times.
When you carry that same knowing here in the physical,
doors open for you as well. And here in the physical,
you know, we always don't know everything, We don't always
know everything, we don't always know the bigger picture. But
when you just trust and let go, things will happen.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, well said We'll said, so, Andre, We're going to
dive into a lot of your experiences to include also
some of the words of wisdom that I know, all
the gems that you're gonna drop with folks listening and
watching today. But I got to talk about something here, man, Like,
let's take a few short minutes and touch on what

(05:20):
it's like to leave everything that you know in America
to move to Egypt. I mean, let's because I know
folks have a lot of questions, and folks, I'm going
to try to ask the questions that I think intuitively
that you want to ask, Andre, But let's just touch
base on that feeling for you. So give us a rundown,

(05:41):
just highlights if you need to, and you sitting at
your desk at your keep your goal, you know, and
then you're just going up to your boss, I would assume,
and telling them what's like walk us through that process
getting into Egypt because yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, so okay, So you know, when I first made
the decision, the first thing I did was, you know,
obviously I have a son, so obviously I sat him down,
I had a conversation with him, and and him and
his mom you know, me and his mom, we haven't
been together in you know, twelve years, but they both
loved me, and I love both of them still, and

(06:19):
you know, we had a great understanding. And I told
them and they know what I'm doing. You know, they
may not fully understand it yet, but they do understand, like, hey,
I leave my body. This is the truth, and they
understand that it was important to me. So the first
thing I did was was was make sure that was
okay and Andy, they embraced it, you know, it was

(06:40):
it was a sad thing, but they embraced it and
they showed me love and support. So that right there
was like, okay, this is what I need to do.
And then you know, then you tell your family, you know,
and they embraced it as well. So it was it
was really kind of like a happy, happy goodbye.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
A lot of love.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
And embracement was for that, you know. And then the
next step was, you know, work, telling my job.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
Now not wait before we get to your work. I
just want to just clarify something. You talk to your son,
you know, your ex and then also your family. Did
they know that you were already exploring the outer body
before you fully committed to it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, so everybody knows. After one.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I always say this, after one out of body experience,
your life will change. After three, you'll start to change others.
So I've been you know, this is all I talk
about with everybody. If when you come in in my presence,
you're going to feel it, and you're going to know
the other side is here and it's present in all

(07:50):
aspects everyday conversation. There's always room and room basically to
slip in some gems for people. Oh yeah, this is
all I talk about all day every day. This is me,
you know, in and out. So they knew that this
was the path I was on. It was just more
you know, to quit. You know what society deems as

(08:14):
a good job. I'm like, oh, you made it in life,
because you have this title, because you make this much money.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
You made it.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Why would you walk away from that? So and dealing
with that is man, This is all a game, you know.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
It really is.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
What's important here is how you treat people, the impact
you leave and what you learned from the experience. Right,
So your title, the money you have, any of that
stuff is just it's truly not important. It truly is
not because when i've I've viewed other lifetimes of mine.
I didn't care if I was a doctor, I didn't
care if I had a nice house. All I cared

(08:53):
about was why would I treat that person that way?
Or why would I do that or this or that?
And it wouldn't have madden if I was if I
was homeless on the street, or if I lived in
a mansion, that did not matter. The only thing that
mattered was the connections that I had with people and
the state of being that I was in. Basically, if

(09:16):
I acted in love or if I did not, that
was basically it. So when you have a broader understanding
of reality, it just shifts things and once you see
the other side, you can't unsee it. The scene can
never be unseen. The remember it could never be forgotten. Right,
So once you realize these things, everything else just fades away.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Let me ask you, and well said, I appreciate you
you sharing that when you mentioned earlier that every time
somebody comes into your presence, this is all that you
speak about. So what I would like to know, and
what some folks might be wanting to ask, is if
that's all that you speak about, does that for somebody

(10:01):
who doesn't know you and they're approaching you. Right, let's
say you're in a gathering or something they want to
come talk to you. If that's all that you talk about,
what's that dynamic like like like how do you? How
do you? And I'm trying to find the right words
for it unless you can read my mind, Like how
do you deal with that? Like? Is it just either
like me or you don't type deal? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So essentially is that right? But also there's another layer
to it. I don't put myself in those situations.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I'm no longer.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
I no longer put myself in places, people, places or
things that are not in alignment with this or are
not open Like I don't get involved in let's say,
matrix things, right, I'm just not in those environments. The
environments I'm in are open to that now. But it
wasn't always like that, you know, so at first, you know,
when you're talking about these things to people, you know,

(10:49):
I'd have friends, engineering friends, you know, I go to
their house and by the end of the night, I
bet you they're curious about out of bodies. You know,
it was like one of those things you just you
kind of feel it and then you see where they
are consciously, and then you try to drop gems that
are in alignment with where they are consciously and try
to get them to that next level.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
So yeah, that makes sense, man like as we also
call it planning the seeds, right, yeah, plans and one
of the things folks about planning and correct me if
I'm wrong here, Andre, but when you when you plant
the seeds, you don't water the seed for them, like
you let them water it, right, right, You let them

(11:31):
water it because that's them investing into the growth of
that curiosity, you know. So when we talk about these
things to to folks that are not commonly familiar with it,
it's not about trying to convince them that something is real.
It's just to just share information, share the knowledge, like

(11:53):
you said, drop those gems and then see where they
take that. So I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
I always say, Caesar, I always say, I can only
show you.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
The door, but you have to walk through it.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well okay, so Andre, people
hear about by these OBEs and think it's all about
floating around the room, but there's so much more than that.
And obviously, can you break down what the deeper purpose
of these experiences are for your soul.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
So the out of body state, accessing the other side,
in general, is one of the most important things that
one can do. Sure, yeah, you can have fun, you
can leave your body, you can fly, you can have fun.
There's that too, But ultimately, what you're doing is you're
accessing the ultimate truth, the eternal aspect of yourself. There's
nothing greater than that. And if you think about it,

(12:48):
every religion, every religious text ever, what do they talk about.
They talk about the other side, How to get there?
What happens when we leave? Right now, the out of
body state can unlock all of that, right.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Actually, what you're.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Doing is you're consistently exiting the game. And by exiting
the game, I mean dying, you essentially go through the
process of dying over and over and over again, and
then you can come back. Right, So, when you don't
have to wait until you die to access these things.
You don't have to wait until you die to access

(13:20):
the other side, to remember who you are, to return home,
to come back in all of your divine to reach
that judgment stage of when you die and you have
that life review and oh what am I doing with
my life. You don't have to wait until then. You
can do it now, and then when you do it now,
you can come back and tell others.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
So that's really what it is.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Nah, that's well said, man, I mean, and you're right
though I've said this before as well, just like you did.
Why wait, you know, why have let's say, on the
average man lives about like a good eighty years. Why
wait for eighty of those years to expire and then
and be like, oh, now.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I remember, that's just eighty years of mistakes.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Just yeah, it's a waste of time, right if we
if we're talking about existing in this linear timeline situation,
it's a waste of time. You know why? Why not
if you if you have the opportunity, if you're listening
to this and you and you really dive into this,

(14:25):
and you understand or even curious about, you know what,
why wait? Why don't I just start remembering now? Then
then do it? Do it? Right? There's a lot of
folks that are out there like Andre or in this case,
I'm just referred to you as the alchemist three sixty nine,
who is offering training and consultation, and he talks to

(14:48):
you about how to achieve this, you know, I mean,
what is the difference. What is the difference between going
to a doctor or a therapist or an expert of
some physical craft in comparison to going to someone like
Andre the Alchemist three signed seeing what his expertise can

(15:09):
teach you and lead you to. There's no difference. It's
all information and it's all about if you invest in
that individual that time, you know that practice. So, Andre,
you left America, You're now in Egypt. What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:28):
So I came to Egypt man with one thing in
my mind to remember, right, and because I've been traveling
the Egypt out of my body quite frequently, you know,
on a daily like not a daily basis, but I'd say,
you know, realistically, probably once or twice, right, probably like
three times a month.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right, I make my.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Way out of my body and I be in Egypt specifically,
And Egypt holds the key to a specific time period
the Old World. I don't know if you're ever familiar
with what people consider the old world.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
You know, before the.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Flood us with a great flood, right, So there was
a great war and there was a great flood that
wiped everything out the mud floods, things like that. So
when you go to Egypt, a lot of that is
still there because that was like the capital during that
time period. That was where a lot of things was
going on. You could say it was a capital basically,

(16:17):
and so when the great flood came, it buried everything.
But then these structures were so big they couldn't bury
at all, you know what I mean. So that's why
we still see the tips of the pyramid. So I
went there and I knew this out of my body
because when you go there, you can see these things
and all of the restoration right in their full glory

(16:38):
of where they were.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Because when you.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Enter there, you step back and the pyramids are lined
up with certain stars, right, and those stars stars are
fixed dimensional spaces within the firmament. So when you go
to these pyramids, they actually take you to this specific
time period, right, And when you're in that time period,
you can see all of the structures in the world
around you as it was beautiful, magnificent, right. So I

(17:03):
knew all of these things were still there, and so
I went there with one thing on my mind to
uncover what was lost, right, And that's that's what I'm doing.
That's what that's what I did. So And here, even
when you physically look at the pyramids Caesar, when you
physically look at them, they sit on a hill, all right,
They sit on a hill, and that hill is like

(17:26):
twice as big as the pyramid. And underneath that hill
there's tombs and everything that they're uncovering along the way,
so like it's almost like why would you not dig
this up? You know there's more, why would you not
dig this up? And it doesn't just stop there. The
town over abraw Wash, I believe it's called Abrawash, there's
underground tunnels there in the desert. I was there in

(17:47):
the desert and I seen because Egypt it used to
be once a lush land. I seen seashells in the desert,
fossils fossilized in the desert, and I'd break one off
and then there'd be all crystals inside. I have photos
of that. And even in the desert. In the next
town over, there was steps in the middle of the desert.

(18:08):
There's steps that go deep, deep, one hundred two hundred
meters deep.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
And when you go in.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Those tunnels, it's all connected, it's all a network. And
then you go to places like Sakara in Egypt where
they're still digging up places. Some Sakara is the step pyramid.
They just uncovered that.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Not too long ago.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
It's like a more recent discovery, I guess, And they
just dug that up. And they're still digging up Socara.
They're still digging up these places. There's still more to
uncover there. Everywhere that you look in Egypt, in the desert,
because deserts are not natural, they're a result of war.
Everywhere you look in Egypt there's sand from the desert,

(18:46):
from the destruction, and underneath the sand there is temples.
There's ancient structures all over the place. And everywhere you
look you'll see hills, and then on the side of
hills you'll see you'll see things sticking out. It's like,
why are you guys not digging this up? Show us
our truth, show us our histories. It's it's a it's

(19:07):
a lot of stuff there, man, It's it's a lot
of stuff here, you know, And it's a hot spot.
You know, everybody wants to come to Egypt, you know,
so why not set up shop?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah? Absolutely, man, I mean it's great. Like I said
in the beginning of this episode, You're you're embodying everything
that you're speaking about. You know, you want to go
out there. You've seen it in your in, your in
your energy, soul self, and then now you want to
put eyes on targeted physically and then just kind of
connect the two and reconfirm and things like that. That's

(19:37):
a beautiful thing. Not a lot of people have the
resources to make that kind of move now, Not a
lot of people have even the the the will, you know,
the strength, the confidence to make a move like that,
because people are just complacent. A lot of people are
just like, Hey, I'm cool with what I got. I

(20:00):
would love to go to Egypt, but I think I'll
ever be able to. And the question is why not?
Why not? You know, even if it's a visit, I
want to ask you you mentioned that somewhere in the
desert you saw steps just going going down. I mean
that that that speaks for itself, even if there wasn't

(20:21):
even if there wasn't one person one thousand miles radius
around that location, that you can ask what is this?
That alone speaks that there's something you know, something was
built underground for a reason. What do you think was
in in the one that you went into. What do
you think was down there?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
All right? So it's just.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
All right, so this goes, this goes deep. Now. And
when I say these things, these are places tourists don't go, right,
I got the inside scoop and I was like, I
was brought places that tourists don't go. So this this
stuff isn't released. You know, nobody knows about this village
with these steps and things like that, or these seashells

(21:03):
in the desert. So what it is is it's just
a network, right, It's it's a whole civilization under there.
There's a whole town underneath the desert that got buried.
The pyramids that you see are just the tips, like
I went into the Great Pyramid of Kufu, you know.
And the initial storyline in Egypt, by the way, is

(21:23):
that the pyramids are still ferals toos you go a
tour guide. That's what they're going to tell you.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Really, they're they're telling people still this story because it's
appealing to the narrative. Is that is that why? Or
is this actually for them?

Speaker 1 (21:41):
No, it's a control structure. That's the official story released
by the Egyptian government. You know, at the end of
the day, that's what it is. It's a control structure.
I mean, they just don't want people to know. So
that's the official story that everybody knows, and they really
believe this in Egypt, like the people there, they really
believe it. There's not too many people like me or
like you that know the truth there.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Well, what about so some of these tourists who still
give the narrative of like you know their tombs. Have
you talked to some of them and they stape and
they're from the side from the shows that say, hey,
I know that's not the actual truth. As anybody ran
to you like that.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, you you run into some people and then even
then it's just like you scratch the surface, right because
when you leave your body, you know the whole truth
of everything.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
So, I mean, but there are people sprinkled in. I
had this one tour guide who was excellent because they
knew what I did, Like I came to business cards
and everything.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Like, hey, this is what I do, this is what
I'm here for.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
So I got introduced to certain people that were that
and they're deemed as like crazy you could say, or
going against the grain. But those are the people that
know that have the most truth, right. So I did
get linked up with some tour guides that did know
a little bit more truth than the average person and
things like that, and I did meet up with locals,

(22:59):
and that's how like I found, you know, these places
that nobody knows about. So I did find some to
some locals that that knew the truth. And you know,
people that were going into these temples at these underground
steps and playing in them and sleeping in these these
underground caves as kids and stuff.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
So you know, yeah, so now it's it's it's really
it's really cool that you that you're there because you
answered my question because I was gonna I was going
to ask you. I was going to ask you that
you got there to Egypt. You're in a new land,
new territory. How do people how are they starting to

(23:37):
get to know you? Like, how how are you introducing
yourself and you're you're coming out of there. Are you
letting them know that you're Andre Miller? Are you telling them,
hey call me the alchemist three sixty nine? What's that?
What's that vibe that you're trying to put out there
for them?

Speaker 1 (23:52):
So you know, like I said, I came with business cards.
I came like a man on a mission. So I
was out here shaking hands, and you know, at first
they thought I was just a regular tourist. And you know,
everybody's out there, you know, to get your money into
things because it's a very deprived area. So a lot
of these people are in survival mode. So when they
see an American tourist, they think money.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Short shortly thereafter they knew it that's not what I
was there for. But yeah, I just shake hands and
I say, you know, I'm the Alchemist three sixty nine.
This is what I do. Here's my website, I make videos.
This is what I came here for. This is what
I know. And what it turned into. Instead of me
going there to learn and people showing me stuff, I
told them the truth about the Pyramids, and I open

(24:33):
up their eyes a lot of times. And you know,
even now, you know, now they're still contacting me. We're
setting up, setting up some things. But you know, it's
it's very evident when you speak to somebody that knows
the truth, it's very clear that like, oh this guy
knows what he's talking about. It's very clear. You know,

(24:54):
when you have the ancient knowledge and the name three
six nine, it rung bells for the they're like three
six nine.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
You know.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm like, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Know, that's that's how, that's how, that's how you and
I really really clicked and everything and stuff. I do
like the fact that that you have three six nine
because we understand how powerful, how powerful that key of
those three numbers are. All right, Andre, So let's talk

(25:24):
about the construct once. Once you leave your body, do
you still feel like you or does the idea of
self completely shift when you go into those other spaces.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, that's a great question, man. So when you leave
your body, you will feel like you completely. Nothing else
will change. Your thought forms still come. Uh, what exactly
your your state of consciousness, your state of being, what
you're thinking of just before you leave, that goes with you.
So that's exactly what you're going to experience as soon
as you leave your body. Like, if you're scared or something,

(26:00):
that's probably what you'll experience. If you're in a high vibration,
that's what you'll experience. If believe you're going to see something,
that's probably what you'll see immediately. Because immediately as soon
as you step out, you're probably going to experience your
dimensional space, your field, right your field is created by
your thought form, so as soon as you pop out,
that's typically what people experience is their dimensional spaces, their

(26:23):
thought forms. So in short, yes, you stay exactly the
same as you leave, and when you first leave, there
is a base reality on the other side where you
can see real time events. Like if I left my body, Caesar,
and I came to your house, I could see you
doing this podcast right now. I could also enter there
and enter your dimensional space where it might be your

(26:45):
thought form, like if you were thinking about creating your
studio in a type of way, I might go there
and see a bigger TV with beyond the frequency three
sixty nine on it or whatever you may be thinking.
You know, and I can see, So that's like what
you can see. And I have learned in a way
to understand where I'm at based on the feeling, based

(27:05):
on the frequency of it. So like when I'm there,
I'll know, oh, and the way it looks, the frequency,
the feel, all of that. Once you do this enough,
you can tap into that and based on that I'll know, Okay,
I'm in base based reality or okay, this is his field,
this is his thought form, or okay, this is a
past time event, or this is a future. And you

(27:26):
can even even like say you're looking at something, you
can even tune into it. You can look at it
from the left side, the right side, the front side,
the backside. But you can also look at it from
the past, the present, and the future. It's all the same.
It's all one and the same. So if you tune
your frequency, it's all an internshift too. You're not changing

(27:47):
nothing around you. All you're doing is changing your perception
your frequency. So as you change your frequency, your perception,
you can then see the past. You can then see
the present, you can then see.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
The future, you can you can.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
See all of all of these things. And that's just
realm one. So when you mentioned the construct, that's just
things that can happen in round one. And when I
say realm one, I'm talking about Earth where we are,
this where humans are, where we are right now, right now,
this construct.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, And don't lose your trend of thought here. I
want to as a as a host, one of my
responsibilities is to make sure that if people are, if
new people even even older folks on on my channel
are tuning in to uh to you for the first time.
A lot of them are coming into this like not
knowing what's really going going on. So let's help them

(28:37):
out a little bit. Let's break down some of these
terminologies that you're using so that way they can continue
to let to have an under understanding of what some
of the words that you say as you explain your
your story. So one of those words would be construct.
When you say construct, what does that mean? Okay?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So I use the word construct because I got into
out of body experiences through their j Wright, Right, He's
been doing this for years and that's who taught me.
And if you want more of this information about the construct,
I highly suggest you know, visit his website.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
You know, all of this will be broken down in detail.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
But I use the word construct because that's what he
used to describe this universe. You can replace construct with
the word universe. It's one and the same. But we
use the term construct because the universe is not what
you've been told. It's not space and stars and all
of that. So it's a construct because it is a creation.

(29:32):
It is a flat plane of existence with a firmament
above it. This I know to be one hundred percent true.
I have seen it. I have left the construct. I
have viewed it from the outside. I have gone up
to the stars and been.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Relocated right back here.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
So when I say construct, you can replace construct with
the universe. So what you think of the universe is
this construct. There's a flat plane of existence, and there's
a firmament around it, and everything that you know to
exist exists inside this one construct really exists inside this
one realm. But in this construct there are twelve realms.

(30:09):
Each realm with the individual template right now where we are,
this is the Earth template. There are twelve or eleven
other templates where experiences can be had. When an example
of these templates are of places that I have been
to personally, would be what we call Realm three, which
is the third heaven, the third realm. This is realm one,

(30:30):
round three will be the third one. That's the ancient
Egyptian or Atlantis time period. That's where I said when
I go to the Pyramids, I'm in a new time period.
That's that time period. That's that realm. I've also been
to Realm two, which is the galactic realm. That's where
a lot of these et races come from they come
from realm two. It's another realm, so they're not really
traveling through space, they're traveling through realms dimensions. See, that's interesting,

(30:55):
and I hope a lot of folks caught caught. That's
let's kind of process that what you said, between realm
one and we're in realm two. So the ets they're
in the realm above this one, which is we're in
realm one. ET's are in realm two. So when and
replace the word above, because it's not really above. All
these realms inhibit the same space. They're just separated by frequency.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Perfect I appreciate you explained that. So when these ets
come down from our perspective into our realm, they're not
coming from like interstellar space or whatever the stories and
the narratives are in the movies. They're just basically walking
through a door, a portal, if you will. Can you

(31:40):
explain what divides realm one between realm two and so
on and so forth?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, So essentially it's it's frequency. Rights, it's bounded by frequency,
and so the beings in realm two they live longer, right,
they live longer, So they have developed longer, and theoretically,
Realm two was created before Round one, so they've had
more time to advance and grow. Right, So they have

(32:07):
learned and their time of existence to lower their frequency
to come here, and they've also learned how to manipulate
space and time better than us. The crafts that they
drive in, they can actually shift the frequency for everything,
and they can appear here. So they know of realm one,
so they can appear here. But what separates is frequency, right,

(32:30):
Some people say that it's separated by each one has
a firmament or a dome above it. It's not really
that we're all inside of one firmament, but to access
the other one, when you're in your physical body, you
would physically. There's stargates. There's these portals that take you
to other realms, and they're located in certain places within
this construct. One of them is the core. Right, there's

(32:52):
a core that can take you there. But if you're
in your physical body. I remember this from being in
Round three. When you go to the end of the firmament,
you enter it and then it takes you back here
and it will raise your frequency to the next round.
So that's one way that I think that's where the
misconception of they're all they all have separate domes. I
believe that's where that comes from. But that's not really

(33:13):
what the case is. So in the ets, they also
set up portals too, Like when I'm out of my body,
they can see me, so they are more in tune
with things around here. Like and out of my body,
I have set up portals in my dimensional space in
my room too to take me from somewhere to somewhere
real quick and easy.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
So they can do the same type of thing.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah, let me let me understand that. And that's another
term to just explain. When you said dimensional space, what
does that mean? All right?

Speaker 1 (33:45):
So when I say dimensional space, you can think of
it as like a thought bubble or a bubble on
the other side, But it's not really that. That's just
the way our human mind can perceive it, because when
you're out of your body, this dimensional space is actually real,
it's actually in the room you're actually in it. So
on the other side, when you're in a dimensional space,

(34:07):
this room that I'm in would look different, it would
be a dimensional space, right, But a way to picture
it in your mind is we're in a construct right,
And within this construct there are bubbles in there. In
these bubbles are dimensional spaces, and when you enter them,
it transforms the reality around you. And these dimensional spaces

(34:30):
are curated by thought forms. Because our thoughts manifest, this
whole universe is just thoughts manifested.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
There's that makes me think. So the way you're describing
it is like like we're kind of like in a
snow globe.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Right, Yeah, it looks exactly like a snow globe, mushroom.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Right, and then there's and then so flat surface and
again this is just for the purposes of everybody to
be able to understand what it, you know, to visualize
what it looks like. Now, are these descriptions accurate? No? Right,
you know, but but this is just the way that
we're like that, we're just talking about it, right, So,

(35:11):
flat surface, dome above, that's the firmament, twelve realms in
between there, starting with layer one, which is the earth
realm that we're in. I heard what about like I know,
the Bible talks about us too and other religions about
there being waters above, like they are the waters above?
Is that another layer of the next level between one

(35:33):
and two?

Speaker 1 (35:34):
So the waters separated from the waters, the waters above
and the waters below. There is a firmament above us,
and there's water in the inside the firmament, there is water,
and you enter this realm through water as well. So
the waters above can be described as the waters in
the firmament, and then the waters in the ocean too.
And you can see the waters in the firmament when

(35:54):
they launch space shuttles. You can see the space shuttles
skip off the firmament. Sometimes then there'll be bubbles. It
will look just like a boat in a river in
the trials leaving fine, absolutely, it may even describe it

(36:15):
to you find.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
You can see it, but brown.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
You don't do it almost looks this dun cloud of
smoke with its own mind. Its just shooting through the sky.
Absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Yes, yes, you know, so don't if it looks like
a chicken. If it's it walks like a duck, quacks
like a duck, it's a duck, right, don't let these
people tell you otherwise. So, and there's also a water
separated from the waters as well. When I leave my
body sometimes and I'm traveling to like a fireplace, another
realm I will enter. I've done this now like three

(37:16):
or four times, so I know this is what it is.
So when you enter a particular portal or something, typically
I enter this through my mirror by setting my intention.
I go through my mirror and I enter this, and
you will hear water on one side and water on
the other side. And when I say you will hear it,
it is like you are in the ocean. Imagine being
in the ocean, so deep and so massive and there's

(37:39):
so much energy flowing around you. Imagine hearing the energy
of the ocean in your ear. That is like the struck,
the force that's in the firmament, right, And when you
walk through there, you'll be it will be solid on
either side of you, out of your body, but you
know you are in water and you can hear the
energy all around you. So that's like the water separated

(38:02):
from the waters, right. And as you cross through, and
as you enter out on the other side, you'll enter
another realm.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Interesting. I love that. And this is very helpful, Andrea,
because again, for as we talked about earlier, we're gonna
we're just trying to plant seeds. Right. If you're curious
about this, you're gonna look into it. If you're not
not for you, and that's and that's okay, But these
descriptors kind of help people visualize this stuff.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
So see, those with the eyes to see will see.
Those with the ears to hear, we'll hear.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Say that one more time.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Those with the eyes to see, we'll see. Those with
the ears to hear, we'll hear.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
I love it. I love it. Yeah, absolutely, man, I'm wondering. Also,
let's talk about density. Realm one is the most dense realm?

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Correct, Yeah, you can say that it is the most dense,
but realistically it's almost not because out of your body,
it's more dense because you can feel the chemical makeup
of everything, right, and that's in every realm everywhere you are.
And honestly, when you're in these higher realms, a lot

(39:12):
of them feel heavier or more dense, more real than this.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Now, when they say more dense, it can be considered
more dense as in you don't have the abilities, like
everything's more compact here, like we're in smaller bodies. It's
more dense in like that type of way. But yeah,
I'm trying to figure out why people say this is
the most dense, because I haven't necessarily seen that.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yeah, and let's and let's go with that though, and
I'll include myself too, just for this conversation. A lot
of us say that because that's what we're told. And
then there's the folks that are into the esoteric. But
then there are a lot of them are repeating with
other nation people right, are saying so they so when

(39:58):
they say, oh, this, this realm is is denser than
the rest, unless they've actually gone out of their body
or found some kind of way to prove that, they're
doing the same thing as the physical folks like the
scientists and the archaeologists, and they're just they're defending a
truth that is not really theirs.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yeah, and that's why I say the out of body
state is the end of the line, man, because in
the field of work that I'm in, it doesn't count
unless you've seen it for yourself.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Like that, man, you can no.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Longer regurgitate information because you can leave your body and
get it for yourself. So like, if you're just repeating
information from another human, another man's mouth, like, there's no
truth to that, because how can you verify that. The
only way to verify it is if you see it
for yourself. That's the only way you can verify these things.
So you know, once you step into this realm of

(40:50):
leaving your body, you see that. So that's why I
no longer read information here. I no longer listen to
anybody else else's thoughts or what they have to say
this unless it comes from somebody I know that leaves
their body too, and that I trust, right, And I'm like, Okay,
you've seen that, it's probably true. Let me go see
if I could see it too. You know it's like

(41:11):
that now for sure?

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, let's Andrea, let's take a step back again.
For folks that are being introduced to you for the
first time through this episode, is tell them what your
profession was before you moved to Egypt and after you've
had your first second to third outer body experience, how

(41:33):
that changed your paradigm? Go for it?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, So, by trade, I was an aerospace project engineer, right,
and before I started leaving my body, I was getting
into realizing that, you know, I'm the creator my reality.
Our thoughts create our reality, manifestation and things like that.
So I actually manifested this aerospace engineering job in six
months just by thinking it feeling it and achieving it.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
I had no formal education before that. I just always knew, Hey,
I'm smart. I can do this just like anybody else can.
Oh I need a degree, No I don't. I can
do this without it. And then as I got after
I got the job, that's when I started going to
school for I'm actually still in school. I'm actually still
in aerospace engineering school right now.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'm in year three.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah. Well, yeah, for folks that don't folks that have
heard what that title is but don't really know what
it is. To give us a baseline, what does an
aerospace engineer focus on? So that way it'll give us
a foundation before we talk about the other. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
So I'm in particularly an aerospace project engineer. So what
I do is I manage space programs. So like I
work for customers such as my company designed precision measurement
instruments for space.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
That's what we did.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
We may pressure transducers and a lot of major space
companies like Lackie, Martin, Boweing Satellites, NASA, they would purchase
our transducers and.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
To do that.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
It's a space program because we work these things go
on the Artemis mission. The things that we manufacture go
on the space shuttles that made it to the Moon,
on the Artimist missions, basically every space mission ever they
have our pressure transducers on them and they have such
strict requirements because they're going to space, right, So in
space you need an engineer project engineer to manage that

(43:19):
program where we ensure the manufacturability, we design it, ensure
the manufacturability of it, ensure all the quality and acceptance
testings in accordance with the specifications the requirements, and then
we send it on our way. So in short, you know,
I work in the space industry.

Speaker 3 (43:37):
And then now you leave your body and now you
see that and you're fill in the blank here, but
now you see that there is no space, So talk
to me about about that and then trying to yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Yeah, So just as I was leaving my body, I
was getting into like flat Earth theory. Now I became
an engineer maybe three years ago, so I was an engineer,
an aerospace engineer. I'm like, yeah, we're going to space.
We're going to help human mankind get to Mars. Like
I was all in.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
I had galaxy posters all over my walls.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like I was.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I loved space like, that's what I loved, and I
was going to make sure the human mankind do my
part to get us to Mars, like that was what
I wanted to do now.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
And I would see.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Things about flat Earth and I'd be like, oh, these
guys are stupid, Like what are they talking about. They
don't know science, they don't know math, like we've been there, right,
And then it wasn't until one day I was looking
at a picture. I seen somebody post something and they said, Yo,
these pictures are fake. I looked at it and I'm like, Yo,
they are fake. They're not real, like the pictures of

(44:40):
the planets, the stars, all of that, they're not They're
not real if you look at it, they're not real.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
And really, what did it for me?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Because I was working on one of my customers produced
satellites and I seen something talk about, oh, google satellites
in space. You won't see a real picture of a
satellite in space. I googled it.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
There was no.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Satellite and I'm like, so what am I working on? Well,
that's like what triggered me there. So I was already
going but I still believed it, right, I still believed
in space. I'm like something fish he's going on here,
But I'm like, it's got to be space, right. And then,
you know, I heard Darius talk about we live in
a construct, and he was confirming everything that I was
already learning on Earth, right, he confirmed it through the

(45:18):
out of body states. So I'm like, Okay, the next
step for me is to leave my body and see
this for myself.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Oh That's what I did, man.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
And so at first I left my body. I was
just making sure, like I can leave and stuff. But
eventually what I did was I got outside of the
construct because I have to see this, right, I have
to see this, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
So I leave my body.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
I'm outside of the construct and I'm looking in it.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
And what do I see?

Speaker 1 (45:41):
I see a firmament above it. I see a firmament
above it. Inside of there is where I see the realms.
There was no planets, no stars in that construct. In
this construct, there is no planets. There is no stars.
There are, but they're in the firmament. And it's just
light projected into here.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
That's all it is.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
It's just light projecting it in here. And you can
even duplicate this with an experiment. If you shine light
and water it looks just like a star. When you
look at the stars through a telescope, it looks like
light and water.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
So you can duplicate this.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
You can't duplicate what NASA tells you about the space
and sun and the heliocentric model. You cannot duplicate that.
If you have a ball spinning, no matter how fast,
water is not going to stay on that ball. Einstein's
theory of gravity is you put a ball, a big,
a large mass in the center of a blanket, and
that simulates the sun bend in space time. And if
you put a smaller mass here, what's going to happen.

(46:32):
This smaller mass is going to go into the middle.
It's not going to stay in orbit. The theory of
gravity is if something moves at this specific speed, it
could theoretically stay in orbit.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Okay, that's not happening.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
You can't even duplicate that in the laboratory, the three
body problem. These are things that can't These are contradictions,
but yet everybody just goes in and accepts these things.
It doesn't make sense to me. But these are things
that you can duplicate, my friend, You can duplicate the fromtament.
You can duplicate thunder in the firmament. You can duplicate
all of this stuff. So like, if you believe in

(47:05):
space because of scientific reasoning, duplicate it. You can duplicate
the flat earth there. You cannot duplicate the heliocentric model.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You cannot.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
So yeah, that's what did it for me. Yeah, seeing
it with my own eyes.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
And the first time I was like, you, I still
don't even believe this. I was like, now I got
to get back out here and see this for myself. Right,
So then I got out again and I seen it
again and I'm like, Okay, this is exactly what I'm
seeing now, I know for sure. And then I even
took this step further and I was like, all right, now,
let me fly up to the stars and see what
they really look like.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
And then you fly up there and before you even
get there, you get close to one, it's like you
get sucked in boom, and then you're right back here.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
So they are exactly what Darius says.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
They are fixed dimensional spaces within the firmament, and when
you go through one, they take you right back in
this construct to a specific space and time.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
So when a lot of.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Star seas and things, and they say that they feel
like they're from these stars. They could be theoretically from
that star, but it's not a star with planets. Like
they say, that star correlates to a specific space time
here and hold.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
On, hold on because that is that is awesome, right
And and folks, if you need to take a break
and pause, drink some water or go grab a snack
or something, because I know this is a lot for
a lot of folks, but I'm with it because I
know what you're talking about. But but it's just it's amazing,

(48:31):
just this kind of knowledge that that folks like yourself
can share with us. Because there's a lot of folks
that can't go out of body. We can't see these things, right,
So if you are, yeah, if you can't.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Everybody you can, I'm sorry, everybody can. Everybody can leave
their body.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Bro Okay. Then I mean then let me then let
me rephrase that we all can go out of our body. Yes.
I think what I meant to say was that not
a lot of folks understand on how to do it
or they don't remember how to do it, Okay. And
that's where folks, you know, coming to folks like you

(49:10):
or Darius or whoever else show you Yeah, yeah, I'll
show you out. Yeah and that and that's this game. Yeah,
that's it. So folks there there, it is right right there.
If you are curious and you want to remember how
to leave your body and have this outer body experience,
reach out Alchemists three sixty nine. He's he's got something

(49:34):
to tell you. Okay, damn you know. Okay, So let
me ask you this though a lot of folks, you know,
let's say they look up and they see the on
a sunnay day, the blue the blue sky. Science, I
believe has told us that the reason is staying at water.
My friend, you look, that's where I was getting at. Looking.
I tells us that we you know that it is

(49:57):
the light reflecting off the water in the oceans that
give it that blue. So as a as a kid,
or as somebody's following that, let me put it like this,
all right, Yeah, you're looking at water in the front
of it. But when you when we say, signs tells
us this, right, But the signs that tells us this
is things that we cannot prove ourselves. You can make

(50:19):
up a theory about anything, and if nobody can prove it,
and you just accept it as is.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Then that's it, right.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
They tell us these things for things that cannot be proven,
And yes, the math checks out if the Earth moves
at such and such speed and rotates this and that, Yeah,
the math checks out. But can you prove it? No,
you cannot, but you just can't. You know, all the
stars are always in the same place every night for

(50:46):
thousands of years. Why do we have the same constellations?
All those things?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Man?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
You know?

Speaker 1 (50:51):
And then they tell us that the Wi Fi comes
from satellites, But why is there fiber optic cables underneath
the Earth connected with all the continents?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
Like what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Why can't you see Why can you see a ship
go go in the middle of Antarctica because it's going
beyond Antarctica?

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. And that's a great
that's a great point. So like Wi fi, right, a
lot of folks and a lot of folks and if
any of you work in the Wi fi industry and
know exactly how it works, coming below, let us know
how how wi fi actually works. Not a lot of
folks really understand that a lot of folks believe that

(51:27):
the your the signal goes all the way up into
outer space, okay, into a basses off a satellite, and
then comes all the way down. But like Andre said,
why are there all these networks here on the ground,
you know things?

Speaker 4 (51:44):
You know?

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Why are there microwaves and Wi Fi towers just on
poles that you can literally see?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Why is it that Google fiber optic cables under the ocean?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
You'll see it.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
There's a connection that goes from every continent and that's
that's where we get our service from. That's what connects Yeah, yeah, yeah, satellite.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Are you talking about the Internet right? How we connect
to other Yeah, there's actually a movie on that I forgot.
I just watched that not too long ago. But yeah,
I when I heard that Andre for the first time,
that the way we connect to other countries is through
these fiber optic cables, these massive, giant tubes under the ocean.

(52:25):
And I'm thinking, wait a minute, who goes down there
and does who puts the first wrench and deep in
the ocean. Now, I don't know if you know this,
but I think when I researched that because I asked
the question why why is it there? And basically In short,
they said that it's just the best way to secure
it because no one's really going to go down there

(52:46):
unless you have like, you know, equipment for pressure and
things like that. But that's wild man.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
That is yes, the average individual, where we get our
WiFi from, how are we connected?

Speaker 3 (52:58):
They're going to tell you satellite satellites see, So that's
that's the other thing. Andre The information is available.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
To us, but we've got to know where to look
and have the eyes to see.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And to that very point, you got to know where
to look and have the eyes to see. And that's
also why this how this outer body experience works. You
got to talk to the right people. You got to
take the right steps to remember to remember. This isn't
a process that it's like, well, I'm going to teach
you this. This is just a technique to help you

(53:32):
remember what you can already do. You know, if you
forgot how to walk, you go to therapy to remember
how to walk again, you know, And when we came
in through this veil, we forgot. So now we have
folks like you, like yourselves, and other folks within the
community that are just there to talk. So listen, just listen, you.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Know, listen.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Something might catch your eyes, something might trigger your memory,
something might speak inside of you to say, Yo, this
is the truth, right, And when you speak the truth
from the other side, it hits a core and you
know it is it.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Vibrates had a certain frequency. Truth.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
Vibrates had a certain frequency, and when you hear it,
it resonates with you, you know, unless you're too blocked
by the matrix in your own world and then you
put a box around you and it misses you.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
But yeah, Andre, let me let me ask you this.
You know, what's been what's been the hardest truth for
you to accept from what you've seen or learned during
one of your obs.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
Space for real, I was in. My whole life revolved
around space. I went to work for space. I was
in I'm still in school for for aerospace engineering. I'm
still in college for it to this day. I start
classes in next month. I was gonna say, but you know,
I'm able to decipher. You know, I can learn, and
I can play their game, and you know, study these

(54:56):
things for I know it's just theory, and you know
you can apply read anything. You know, I can learn
a formula and apply it to something. Sure, but if
it is it real? No, And I'm doing that just
you know, really, because engineering is a passion of mine
and I'm too deep into aerospace engineering specifically to switch.
It would take longer if I switch. But engineering is

(55:18):
a passion of mine. I love to create things. I
love to figure out how things work right. And I
can use those same principles from aerospace engineering and I
can use it for mechanical engineering. I also learn electrical
as well, so like I have a well versed knowledge
from a human standpoint as well, So when I leave
my body, I can come here and implement these things
and really make them right.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Yeah, Now, what are great? What's a great way to
live your life? You know a lot of a lot
of people believe that the best way to learn is
to read books, read books and learn. But a lot
of us are are awakened, starting to awake, and we're

(56:00):
aware that the best teacher is experienced.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
The answers you seek are within. You go within, and
when you go within, the only way out is through right.
So the only way to leave your body is by
going within. Right, So as you go within, you can
leave your body. And any question, answer to any question
you have is there waiting and it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
But you have to have the eyes to see.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
So break all belief systems, break all perspectives and leave
your body, keep an open mind and see things for
the first time again. When you leave your body, it's
like you're being born again. You're remembering again for the
first time.

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah you should that, well said, well said. Yeah, folks.
If a lot of us are skeptics and we all
want you know, we always say like, we'll prove it, like,
show it to us. Well, stop depending on yeah, stop
depending on folks to prove it to you. You prove
it to yourself. Right, We're always we're always putting the
heard in outside of us where I was having somebody else,

(57:03):
what you show us? This, what you show us that
it's a rinse and repeat, psycho folks, the same if
people outside of you are telling you, in this case
that space is this vacuum, and then you're going back
to the same people and you're like, well, prove it.
They've already they've already done their quote unquote their research.

(57:23):
They're already showing you their evidence. You want more. What
you're asking is that you want one hundred percent confirmation
of what they're saying, is the truth, go find out
take you know, like right now, out about experiences seem
to be, you know, one of the ways to go right.

(57:45):
Can everybody do it? Andre obviously says everybody? Can? You
know a lot of you don't think that you can.
But that's because you don't know how you forgot and
things like that. But again, and sus A, let me
add to that.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Please, the very thing, oh that you can't do this
will prevent you from doing it. The only limitations are
the limitations you put on yourself, truly, So don't even
think in that way. Instead of I do this, change
that thinking to I am doing this.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
I appreciate that, man, Andre, I want to ask you
my routine six questions I ask all my guests as
we're coming to a close here, and there are a
lot more questions that I want to ask you. But actually,
let me see here, maybe I can ask you one more,
you know, Andre, Okay, let's do this. So Andre, I'm
going to ask you a couple of questions here. Give

(58:38):
me your you know, in a highlighted version, give me
your best answer or what you can tell me about it.
If you don't know, you don't know and if you,
if you do, share it with us and we'll move
on from there. Is that work for you? Okay? So
first question is have you ever entered a space during
the outer body experience that you didn't feel welcome? And

(58:59):
we're where you knew something was watching you and studying you.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
I'm gonna go ahead and say no, because I didn't.
When I first left my body, I was just navigating
my room, my neighborhood, my house's places that I already
felt comfortable in. And it wasn't until I had a
solid understanding of the out of body state, along with
Darius J. Wright's teachings and where I'm going and how
things really worked, and then I ventured out. So I'm

(59:27):
going to go ahead and say no, because I understood
the workings of this construct of reality of so by
the time I was ready to leave, I already had
all that background knowledge, so I knew there was nothing
to be afraid of. I knew if somebody was telling
me don't go somewhere, I knew I could.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
So I'm gonna say no.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Andre. Do you think this whole experience that we call life,
do you think it's more like a test?

Speaker 2 (59:58):
A trap?

Speaker 3 (59:59):
Or a training around. How would you describe this experience
if we call life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Life is an experience. So we are here to experience
that of which we are not. We are here to
experience the limitations round one Earth. Specifically, we are here
to experience our limitations because outside of here, in our soul,
in our natural state, we are limitless. There is nothing
that we cannot do. We are creation itself. We are
the force that creates universes. Right, So in order to

(01:00:27):
truly appreciate that, you have to know what it's like
to not be that the same concept as to appreciate
a sunny day, you must experienced what a rainy day
is like. Right, So it's the same concept. So in
order to appreciate our true greatness, you have to experience
what it's like to not be great, to have limitations.
So this is an experience, right, and it can also

(01:00:48):
be viewed as a gain, right because you want to
come into play to have that experience. It's not a
trap by any means. It's not a school by any
means either. You choose to come here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
You create your life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
This is all you're doing. You know, nobody's forcing you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
It sounds and thank you for that Andre. It sounds
like those terms, those descriptions are kind of trendy right
in some of these spiritual communities, where they're like it's
a trap, it's a prison, and whatnot. But again, as
we talk and converse and share more information, we start
kind of letting those some of those because even within

(01:01:27):
the spiritual community, there's old beliefs, old understandings that you
know that just might not be up to day.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
And a lot of that comes from a good place,
right It comes from people trying to spread the message.
But when you do these things from the embody, it
comes through distorted because you're thinking with your human brain
and you're not open and seeing things directly. So even
if you are getting messages from the other side, it
may come in distorted through your human lens thro your
human perspective. When you leave your body, you are no

(01:01:57):
longer processed in things with your human brain because your
soul doesn't have brain, it has no limitation, so you're
just processing things with pure consciousness. Now, your perceptions still
are still there. That's why I always say it's best
to break all belief systems before you go into this,
and come into this with an open mind, no expectations
when you see these things no background knowledge, Like, don't
research something and then go and see it because that

(01:02:20):
will change your perception. But so there's even still distortions
in the out of body state. But when you do
things in the way that I do it, and specifically
the way Darius does it, you go through it and
you see these things with no distortions because you don't
see it the first time and then come back and
relay information. You go and see it repeatedly until you
are for sure that you have the ultimate truth of

(01:02:42):
it before you speak it, right, So that's what you do.
And a lot of these people, even Channelders or anything
like that, the information will come through distorted because a
lot of these beings that people are channeling are still
living entities. So even there they may have a broader
understanding of life or creation or of this universe, but
the way they deliver the message may not be pure either.

(01:03:05):
So a lot of things can affect that. And then
you know, of course you get the regurgitation of information
and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
But all right, Andrea, so one more question before we
actually go into my last final questions here, and this
question has to do with the reality of dreams. So dreams,
it's crazy because when a lot of us dream, we
feel like we're there, like it's intensified. There's nothing else

(01:03:36):
that really matters outside of what's happening in that dream.
And then you wake up and now the reality the
one that you no longer question, the reality that now
you're experiencing when your eyes open. So it's like it's
like when you are in your dream state, you don't
even think about the conscious state that does if you

(01:03:59):
were in your dream, this is and you're going to
feel this in for me, but for most folks, when
you're in your dream, we don't ask questions of how
true that situation is in the dream while we're in there,
about its existence. We don't worry about what's happening. We
didn't even know that we're asleep. And then when we

(01:04:20):
wake up when we were and then when we wake up,
I'm so excited about this question, so flubble all the places,
so I have to figure this out. But and when
we wake up, we are like, Okay, that was a dream,
this is real, and then you question about actually, you
didn't even question about the dream state anymore. You just

(01:04:41):
forget about it. So here's my question. My question is
we really don't have a baseline of what reality actually
is because depending where our consciousness, depending where our consciousness
is at that time, that's reality for us. Can you
help me talk about this?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yeah, so you're right, So what is based reality?

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Because the dream state? All right, So when you when
you're in a dream, it may you may even be
in a really dream, a dream that seems very real.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Have you ever had a dream that seemed very real,
all right, and then when you wake up, you're like, wow,
that dream seem very real, but this is real life, right,
And it just comes back and you know this is
real life. Right, So when you leave your body, it's
the same thing. This life seems very real. But then
when you leave your body, you're like, wow, that seemed

(01:05:35):
very real, but this is really real. This is this
is really who I am. This is real life. It's
that same type of comparison, right. And then once you're
on the other side, you can be on the other
side in realm one, realm two, anywhere in this construct,
you will still have that remembrance of home, that feeling
of oh, this is real. And then once you leave

(01:05:56):
the entire construct completely and go back to the source
and all of that. It will be even more than
You're like, oh wow, this is really real. Now I'm
outside of all game, all creation.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Now this is really who I am.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Right, So there's there's levels, there's level there's a dream
to this, there's this to the out of body within
this construct, and then there's this construct to outside of it.
All of those levels have different different different feelings of
this is real.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Yeah, now I appreciate you adding to that. It's it's
just wild. It's just like we we go through this experience,
this human experience, and we're like, all right, this is reality.
We go to sleep. We have dreams. Great and not
allow folks to this day even understand even the professionals

(01:06:44):
don't really understand where exactly dreams are.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
We have all these theories, you have all these experts,
so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
So so dreams are can be described as technically are
on the other side, but you're just less conscious because
you can access dreams out of your body. Right, There's
more like remember when I said dimensional spaces are like bubbles.
You can think of your dreams as one of those bubbles.
So I have drew this on one of my videos before.
It's like your dream can be thought of as a
thought bubble outside of your head, and that's a dimensional space,

(01:07:11):
and when you dream, you're in there, but you're just
less conscious. And how do we know we're less conscious
Because I've done and a lot of people have done
this as well, done experiments where once you become aware
you're dreaming, you're about fifty In a typical dream, you're
about thirty five percent conscious.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
When you're lucid in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
The dreaming, you become aware you're dreaming, you're about fifty
percent conscious. But you can bring your consciousness fully in
a dream. If you just look at your hands and
try to look at the lines in your hands, you
will bring yourself to one hundred percent consciousness within that dream.
And just the other day I was practicing how to
leave my dreams because I was always telling people, once
you become fully conscious in a dream, it's hard to leave. Well,

(01:07:50):
I figured out how to do it. You just change
your inner world and as you change your frequency and
set your intention, and you feel it kind of the
same way you do with manifestation thinking, and then you
feel it as long as you do that in alignment
with your intention, you will shift to the other dream
or outside of dreams completely and being based reality on
the other side. So just the other day I did that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
I was in a dream.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I mean it was it was kind of like a
serious dream, and they came to me and they're like, okay,
now it's time for you to go, Like we told
you enough, it's time for you to go. I said,
all right, but I'm not going back to my body.
I'm about to just go to another dream. So I
shifted something, went back to that dream when it went
from this dream to another dream. And then when I
was in the other dream, I was like, now, let
me see if I can go back. And then I
went back and I was in there and then and

(01:08:33):
then the beings were like, oh my god, like how
did you get here?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
I was like, I can do anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
But that was that was in and out of body.
That was just in a dream state, you know. But yeah,
you can navigate. You can navigate dream spaces too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Well, Andre, a lot of gems,
a lot of knowledge shared today on this episode. And
it is now that time where we get to my
final questions and and remember there is no right or
wrong answer. It's just yours, all right. So are you ready?
All right? Here we go. First question, Beyond all the

(01:09:10):
knowledge and experiences that you've gained thus far, with all
your research, what still leaves you in awe and makes
a question everything.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Where I'm at today, The thing that leads me in awe,
it makes me question everything is the massiveness of creation itself.
How I have never seen an end to it? And
I've searched, I've gone looking for I have never seen
an end to creation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
What is the ultimate purpose of life? In your understanding?

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
The ultimate purpose of life is to have experience, because
with experience comes wisdom. It comes different perception because we're
all here to grow as a collective, right, So how
do you do that? You do that through experience, and
then with experience it comes to certain perception of wisdom.
So the more experiences you have, the more wisdom you have.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
What is love?

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
Love is everything. Love is the fabric of existence. Love
is the force that creates all universes. Love is the
force that has us doing this podcast. Love is the
reason why I'm here. Love is why I'm doing what
I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
Love is everything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
In your understanding, If everything that you know up to
this point. What is God?

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
God is you?

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
God is you? God is me?

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
God is everybody?

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
And take a moment if you can go back to
young Andre, teenage Andre, Andre just figuring out himself, hormones school,
His life is hit identity.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
What would you tell him right now? Don't change it,
motherfuck thing? Because everything that you're doing is going to
get you where I am now. And you're on your
path man, And never even when you feel lost, you're not.
You're always You're never alone. And don't change anything, man,
because everything that you're going through will get you where

(01:11:16):
you need to be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:18):
And Andre, where can people find you? Support you, learn
more about what you do today?

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
So I have everything in one central vocation though www
dot thelchemist three sixty nine dot com. You know I
have a members section there, I have one on one's
my YouTube channel link is there my telegram channel So
everything can be found there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
And folks, I will have all of Andre's links in
the description below, So just scroll down after this episode
and reach out to him and talk to him. Say
hello and Andre, it was an honor pleasure, humbled. I'm
in gratitude for you taking time today to sit down
with me to talk to my audience, to share what

(01:12:04):
you've accomplished up to this point, and we are excited
to follow up with you in a later podcast for
you know, a year from now, a few months from now,
who knows. See where you're at and what good you're continuing,
what you're continuing to do with the work that you
are doing at your current location. So is there any

(01:12:25):
last words that you'd like to share with the audience. Sure,
If you don't take anything away from this, take this.
You are loved, You are great, and you are powerful
beyond measure. Don't put any limitations on yourself because you
only limitations are the limitations that you put on yourself.

(01:12:46):
Don't put yourself in the box. Think outside of the
box if you don't believe anything that you don't see
with your own eyes. And hopefully one day you'll have
an obe and go home. Folks, if you enjoy this episode,
if you stayed this far, tuned in, listening, taking notes,
just sitting back, relaxing to plating, processing what all was

(01:13:11):
discussed today, because a lot was thrown down to you today.
This was an amazing conversation with Andre. I Thank you,
I thank all of you for tuning in, and folks,
don't forget down. In the description, I have a new book,
so check it out if you like about ancient mysteries

(01:13:33):
and the origins of our history. Take a peek, check
it out, send me a review, talk about it with
your friends, share with people by as a Christmas gift.
But one thing that one of my objectives is that
a lot of these fantastical stories and experiences that have

(01:13:53):
been kept hidden from us for such a long time,
they're trying to keep it hidden. The choice to make
this book is to bring into mainstream, to introduce it
to young minds and let them determine what resonates with
them and and what does not resonate with them by
their own choices, by their own experience, not hand it

(01:14:16):
down because my parents told me so, or my church
tells me so, or science tells me so. Okay, so yeah,
support it and I would appreciate it. And with that
being said, folks, I love you, I see you, I
hear you, I am you. Continue to ask questions. Don't
be afraid to pull back the current and take a
deeper look, always reaching beyond the frequency

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