Teaching the Blind to “See” | Live Mindsight Demo + Telepathy | Beyond the Frequency 369 w/ Guest Migdalia Burgoin - Beyond the Frequency 369

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now before we start the show, I want to show
you guys this three minute live demonstration with my guest
Dahlia who is the mother holding the microphone, and her
daughter le Dou who is the one sitting down with
the blindfold. They are both at a live demonstration showing
the power of telepathy. Lee Do has the ability to

(00:22):
read minds at a very far distance, very very impressive.
So I think you guys will enjoy this if you're
watching it on YouTube, if you're listening on audio platform,
I strongly recommend going on YouTube and checking it out
because you don't want to miss this.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
In the meantime, enjoy did they take art?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Just pick whatever party you want and HB doesn't see
it so that I'm not part of It's all right, Okay,
there is a happen. Everybody has to remember it.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
On the screen fishes in water and the card says,
letting go.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Everybody at it all right, the sticked way and cover
it up. Whatever begins June. So you do is speller.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
And so what I'm gonna hold the letter board of
bearing her stone. We're Vina. She's about to spell it out.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
So the first thing we're gonna do if women have
had her describe vocals in Yielish and Prome words and
then she win the gratings.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
At the top. All right, so.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Are you ready finished?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Oh? Do not gonna flush you? And you want to
say yeah with mirror? Yeah, all right, right do it?

Speaker 6 (02:06):
What was in the picture all the very soul? You'll
see she would just put herself all right, all maya and.

Speaker 5 (02:26):
M hm oby, thank good job fish. Haven't you going?
Oh that's e.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Fish.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
I'm water.

Speaker 7 (03:11):
Because it still has a stake. It's craze on the top.
So my house is minella and praise that was on
the top rare to see thank ready stand.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh thinking dis mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
And lp.

Speaker 8 (03:39):
That's something I'll say is tea got it? Teake dog,
I and so and and ge laying and we'll stand
up for we think you can do it?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Gee and oh letting go? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow okay, yeah, point them in the right place.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Sorry, yeah, yeah, I can see when I do this,
I want to make a fool of myself.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, you're fine, you're fine. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Dang guys, she's got like three layers over her ocular
organic eyeballs.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, let's push it. Wait, I don't know, because Mom,
you got it. You got it. Okay, guys, there is
no way she's buried her eyes.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I don't think i've done this.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Hey, let's push it. Let's push it.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
This is like my eyes closed to I can't even
make them.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Do you want me to attest you? Don't? You want
me to put something up?

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Let's do it? Okay, Okay, Blue six.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
What if I told you that everything you know is
just the beginning. Beyond the veil of the ordinary lies
a realm of hidden knowledge, ancient wisdom and untapped a
place where consciousness expands, reality bends, and the impossible becomes possible.

(05:11):
You weren't meant to stay asleep. You were meant to awaken.
Open your mind, remember who you truly are, and step
with me beyond their frequency three sixty nine.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
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Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's America.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
If you catch me on Spotify or Apple Podcast, give
me with those five stars. I appreciate the support. Let's
start the show. Welcome back to beyond their frequency three
sixty nine. I'm your host, Caesar Pagan and tonight, I'm
really excited to sit down with a special guest, Mgdalia B'regoyne.
Dahlia is also a mind side practitioner. She's doing some

(05:59):
amazing work with mind Sight. So Dahlia has shown her
abilities and even her daughters in live events all around
the world. She's teaching the blind how to see, and
she's working with researchers to help science understand these divine gifts.
But what's most powerful about her message is that these
aren't abilities reserved for a selected few. These are natural

(06:21):
gifts we all carry inside of us. She's a mom,
an author, and a guide for anyone ready to discover
more about themselves in the world we live in. So
tonight we're going to dive into her journey and learn
why open up these gifts might just change the way
you see everything. And if you stay tuned just long

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enough with us, Dahlia and I will do in Mindsight
duo demonstration before the end of the show, something that
I've never done with another mind science practitioner. So I'm
pretty excited about this one. And with that being said, folks, Dahlia,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
Thanks for having me awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I got to say, I say this to all my guests.
You're gifting me your time. I'm in gratitude, thank you
so much. And this isn't just for me, but it's
also for my audience who is interested in this stuff
and folks. Dahlia, she's amazing at this. Okay, she's been
doing this way a lot longer than I have, and

(07:22):
she's been like touring around the country in different areas,
demonstrating and opening up people's minds. So, Dahlia, I want
to go straight into asking you, how did you even
find mind sight?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Like where did you hear about it? Like how did
this come into your life? Let's talk about that first.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Well, about fifteen years ago I started, well twenty twelve,
so I started doing this energy practice. And during that
energy practice, we learned how to be blindfolded and to
be able to tell everything apart with our senses. So
we were able to tell things apart just by energy,
the smell, by the sound, by even if it's at

(08:03):
a distance. And so I got pretty good at that.
And I had heard about the kids in Indonesia Indonesia
that are able to read and see colors and things
like that, and I've always thought that was interesting. I'm like,
one day, I'm going to get into that. And I
always remember hearing that those schools out there, they will
only teach you if you're a kid, and I remember thinking, well,

(08:27):
that's ridiculous to think that an adult can do it. Definitely,
we have the same brain. They might go into a
different brave frequency than we do more often, but we
have the same access and so I remember thinking, we
definitely can do it, and I will get into it eventually.
And so years later, I had this experience where I

(08:49):
explained this before, and it's such a weird anomaly that
happens with me sometimes where I will sit up and
I'll be in a different time, like I'll be in
the future or something, but my entire I'm experiencing like
my whole body's in the future. It feels like a
normal day, but I know because of signs, I'm not
in the right time, and so, yeah, it's a crazy experience.

(09:09):
So I remember one day I sat up in my
bed and I remember thinking, Okay, I'm definitely in the
future right now because I have a blindfold on. I
did not lay down with a blindfold, and then one
of my daughters was in bed with me. It was up,
I think my now four year old, and I remember
thinking she didn't. She wasn't in bed with me when
I lay down, so I know I'm in a different time.
And so what stood out about that was I had

(09:31):
my blindfold on and I was seeing the entire room,
and so I said, whoa, this is so cool. So
that's what it's like. And I remember thinking, Okay, I'm
supposed to do this. This is a sign I'm supposed
to do this. And so so I remember laying back
down and then going on about my day. I get up,
my daughter's not there, I don't have the blindfold on,
and I go to do my meditation later on. So

(09:53):
I always do a line down meditation during the day.
I go to do my meditation, I bring my my
blindfold on purpose because I had a sleep mask and
I purposely wore it because I thought, maybe this is
the time it's going to happen. And so my daughter
climbs into bed, my now four year old and I
were thinking, oh, this is probably gonna happen. And then
so I do my meditation and I sit up, and

(10:14):
when I sat up, it did happen. And I was like,
oh my gosh, this is so cool. But that was
the only time I could do it. I said, okay,
I just got to get good at this, and so
I wore my mess every day after that, after my
meditations and pitch black like every day it was pitch black,
but I was able to see, like my hand in
front of my face when I moved it so like
the fantoman. And then I also noticed I was able

(10:35):
to see all the outlines in my room like so
I was able to get around even though there was
zero light coming in. It was like pitch black. For
like six months, I would do it, and I would
call it dark walking, and I would walk and I
would see the edges of the bed, I would see
the outlines of doors and tables and cabinets, and if
I touched it, it would peer even more. And so
so I started walking out. Thought was the funnest thing

(10:56):
ever because I never had to turn on any lights
or anything. But if I needed to go to bath
or something, never had to turn on the lights, like
just go in. I saw all the outlines. It's kind
of like like, how do you say, like echo location
or something, Because as soon as I would touch something,
I would see more of it. I just couldn't see colors,
for fine detail or light. I couldn't see any light
at all. So I always thought this kind of looks

(11:17):
like a sonogram on an ultrachild or something where sound
makes you see lines. So anyway, remember I did it
for about six months, and then all of a sudden,
I had this strong feeling of I needed to actually
start seeing now, like to see colors and stuff like
those kids do. I remember around that time a friend
of mine sent me a video of Vibervision, which is

(11:38):
just twenty minutes from my house, and I remember thinking, like,
that's what I want to do. But I remember thinking,
but I don't want to do it with Viravision, just
because they're doing they're mostly teaching energy work, and I
already have this huge background and energy work, and I
only want to practice the blindfold. And I said, well,
how am I going to do that where it's just
practicing the blindfold, it's not learning an energy based system.

(11:59):
And so I started looking around and I find Rob
Freeman and Wendy Gallant, and you know them very well,
and so I find them and Rob does a free
call with me on zoom, and for the first time ever,
I was able to see with my mind's eye. So
when he was holding up the colors and shapes, I
was seeing it with my mind's eye, and I was like, wow,

(12:19):
I've never seen this way before. And he was surprised.
He's like, whoa, You're like pick that up like nothing,
and he really wanted me to go to his seminar.
But I had never even tried to see that way.
I've always just done it with my other senses. I
never tried. And then when I went to their seminar
on the second day, that is when it opened finally,
and it was very small. It was just a small

(12:42):
amount of color I could see, but it was the
first time. And also my window opened in the back,
the very first one, in the weirdest way, like, for example,
let me get some colors here, so I would hold
the color here in front of me, but I would
see it behind me, and I was so confused what
was happening. So I remember having a window open back here,

(13:04):
and so I take let's say I was looking at yellow,
I take the yellow, go back here, and then I
started seeing green, and I was so confused because I'm
like I should see the yellow more, but I'm seeing green.
What's going on? And so I would put the yellow back,
i would see yellow again, and then finally I call
Wendy over. I'm like, Wendy, what is going on? And
then I said, look right now I'm seeing yellow and
she goes yes, and I'm like, Okay, now I'm seeing

(13:26):
green and I'm putting it where the window is. I'm like,
but now I'm seeing green. And when he's like yes,
I'm like, well, what's going on? And then I finally
realized my window, even though it was behind me, I
was always seeing in front of me. So that was
my very first window. And what was interesting about it was,
you know, some people think that have the issue of
cheating and stuff, but that didn't happen with me because

(13:48):
it was just not possible to be seeing the way
I was seeing, and so I'd never had that issue.
And then yeah, from there, I opened up really really quickly.
Within like a day or so, I was reading, Like
a couple of days, I was reading, and I was
seeing with patches and stuff, and it was just it
was just phenomenal. And I remember at the same time

(14:09):
that same week, you know, I had already known all
year that my daughter was telepathic, and I was going
around advocating just for spelling, never for the telepathy or anything.
It was just for spelling because I didn't think everyone,
you know, I wasn't sure if all the other spellers
were able to do telepathy or anything. I'm just thinking,
it's just this is just my daughter. The only thing
that's really important to me is getting spelling out there.

(14:30):
So very that same week, I was with Rob and Wendy.
I'm telling them about my daughter's telepathy, and that that
week the telepathy tapes, the pretapes come out. The first ones, Wow,
and I was like, oh my gosh. And so I
show them. I'm like, look, this is what I was
telling you about what my daughter. This is what she
she could do. But it was like it wasn't a

(14:50):
big deal yet. Nobody it was just nobody was really
one person was listening to me, and she's a friend
of mine now, and like it was just so much
going on that week that it was like the telepathy
thing was just adding to the cake, and you know,
it was just too much going on. And then later
on they're like, wow, so this is what Dahalia was
telling us, like, you know, when the telepathy tapes got
really big. But yeah, it was that week in fact,

(15:14):
going back to telepathy, and I'm part of an RPM group,
so that's a spelling to communicate group, and so I'm
a part of the group and we're all debating whether
the telepathy tapes was like a good thing or a
bad thing. To me, this is awesome, you know, but
some of them were a little nervous about it, and
I said, well, my daughter has these villains, you know,
and so and that's when doctor Diane's people heard about

(15:36):
like I was saying that, and that's how I got
into communication with her and we started working together. So so, yeah,
all of this. I remember thinking that week theom like
somehow this is related to my daughter somehow, I don't
know why. And I kept telling them before the telepathy
tapes came out, say there's something where these are the
same thing, like not necessarily the same, but there's some
kind of relation here and both of these are important.

(15:59):
And I remember, and now it turned into without me
even trying, it turned into me and my daughter being
this team showing these abilities. But absolutely, at no point
was that this planned at all on my end. My
daughter knew it was coming because with her to love
to these stuff, but she never told me. She didn't
tell me till the right time.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
My gosh, Yo, Dahlia, I'm first of all, just like
the people that are watching and listening this right now,
I am absorbing all of this because this is like fantastical.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
It's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Amazing to hear your journey, what you have gone through,
what you didn't plan. I mean, it sounds like everything
just kind of happened, just kind of fell one thing
after the other, which is which is good. You know,
it's good to follow, you know, to a fall in
place organically and without you putting too much aggressive pressure
into it. So but let me ask you this, So

(16:50):
let's go. Let's go a little way back here. You
first started talking about that you were waking up in
different timelines. So before I ask you about that, even
further back, have you always had any intuitive abilities time
travel abilities? I'm not sure what to call them. Did
you have these things prior to mindsight?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
The time travel thing wasn't It wasn't always. It was
when I was in my late thirties, maybe my mid
to late thirties. That's when that started happening because I've
been doing this energy work system for a while, and
so a lot of these weird abilities started to come in.
And yeah, it was like the time travel one. I

(17:34):
don't know what to call that. I always called it
time travel. It could be timelines. I don't know what
it is.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
I call it time travel. Yeah, it makes it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
So okay, it sounds like you said your other ability
to start opening on because you were doing this energy
work when in your work are you Is it that
that you were practicing at the time.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Yeah, I'm still practicing and I started. I started in
twenty twelve. It's it's like a Yen based nyegong type
of system. As a child, though, I did have telepathic abilities.
I did until my last memories of it is when
I was about in first grade. So as a child,

(18:13):
I used to always know what people were thinking, and
what people were going to do and what they were
going to say. I just always knew, and I remember
thinking why don't adults know? This is before I went
to school. I remember thinking why don't adults just know
what each other is thinking? And so I remember thinking, Okay,
when you become an adult, you forget that must be
you lose the ability, and I just kind of assumed that.
But then when I went to school, I had the

(18:34):
same feeling. I was said, wait a minute, why aren't
these kids doing the same thing, Why aren't they reading
each other's life? So and I feel like the reason
I remember these things is because I was so confused.
And you know how we remember things that have an
emotion attached better, And so I had an emotion attached
with the adults not being able to do but being
very confused, and then I had an emotion attached with

(18:55):
the kids at school not being able to do it.
I don't have any actual recollection of losing the ability,
but now I'm nowhere near at that ability, like at
that level where I was as a kid. Still at
the same time, what my daughter can do like it
just blows my mind when I think about telepathy. Beforehand,
before my daughter came around, when I used to think

(19:16):
about it, it was nothing. It was like, what my
daughter can do is like TV psychic stuff. It's like
stuff I didn't really believe was real. And I've been
in this I've been in the consciousness world my whole life,
and I did not think what my daughter do was doable,
and so it just blows my mind how even people
who have done this their whole lives, How how awfull

(19:37):
even we are.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, yeah, well, can you just for folks that don't know,
can you give us a little bit of a highlight
about who your daughter is and what she can do,
you know, what her situation is, things like that, so
folks can just be aware aware of it.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yeah, so my daughter is Lider. She is now fifteen
years old. She just celebrated her fifteenth or her she
had just had a Kingtinta in Mexico. Very nice and yeah,
my husband comes from the Mexican back and I come
from Porto Rican background. And she she is a non
speaking autistic. Well she's a limited speaker now because we've
progressed her to the point where she is saying phrases
and stuff now, and so she spells to communicate, and

(20:13):
she started when she was eleven, and that's when she started.
Well she didn't start communicating with me, being open with
me until she was thirteen. So that was two years
where she and I weren't talking. I had to actually
take her to a provider to have conversations with her.
But once she opened with me. That is when she
started teaching me, And that's when I thought. The whole time,

(20:34):
I was teaching her how to like communicate and teaching
her lessons and stuff, and I'm just teaching her normal
academic lessons to help her communicate and get her skills up,
and the whole time, she's just probably just laughing at me, like,
oh mom, I'm glad she's helping me. And then finally
when she can communicate with me, I'm like, oh my goodness.
Every day I was learning something new and she's blowing

(20:55):
my mind. I was just like, wow, everything I thought
was real was wrong or at least not totally wrong.
But it's like it goes so deep. And then she
tells me about these concepts I had no idea about,
and it's just incredible. And so my reality has shifted
so much that it's become normal to me to have

(21:16):
someone that's constantly reading my mind, like that's always reading
my mind and has access. It's just normal to me now.
But when it first happened, I was just mind blowing.
And she still manages to blow my mind a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah, absolutely, man, And congrats to her, and happy birthday
to her as well. So you say that your daughter
teaches you concepts and different things. Was something small that
she may have just taught you concept wise that you
were like, ah, I didn't know that one of those things.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
So she had all of these skills. My daughter was
already a savant in other areas, Like with her artwork,
she was a savant. She had one she'd won national
contest with her art for a while, won a beauty pageant,
not beauty, but she won like pageants and stuff, and
so so I and she had these skills. Like one
of her skills is she can do things backwards. She
could paint backwards and then show it to you and

(22:04):
it's perfect on the other side. So she paints through
glass that way. If you ask her to write words,
she can write the words backwards and you can put
in the mare and it comes out perfect and without
even struggling. It's so easy for her. And if you
give her a song, she could sing it backwards. And
so I knew she had these kind of skills. So
I was just doing a normal RPM session with her.
So again that's just spelling to communicate, and that's just

(22:26):
getting her skills up. And I said, you know, we
all have different skills that we're kind of born with
and and sometimes we can develop more skills. I said,
are there any skills that you have that we don't
already know about? And that's when she said, I can
discern spirits. And I was like, way, way, wait, wait
a bit, oh, like what do you mean by that?
And she goes, oh, I could tell the different ones apart.

(22:47):
And I said, like what, And then she goes, well,
there's some of them that have that have that are human,
that have not been born, some that are never going
to be born, and then there's like these different entities
like like there's like UAP. She didn't say uape, she
said of some kind of word for that. She said,
you know, she basically said UAP. She said that there
weren't angels. She says, they were dark entities. She was

(23:09):
just talking about all these different ones. And that was
like the first thing she told me.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
And I was like, whoa And she never read has
she read books about these prior to that? So no,
that's wol.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
In fact, up until then, Leelu always knew even though
I was giving our college level academic lessons, she always
knew the answers and I just didn't understand. And then
also there was always stuff around the house she would
always know, And I always thought she must have the
best extra sensory hearing ever, because that made sense to
me because I had great hearing, and so that part

(23:44):
made sense. She must have like super psychic hearing or something.
I did not think it was telepathy. It I'll never
cross my mind.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, so you couldn't hide things because she would know
where it is.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
She always knew everything, and only that she always every
time she said she wanted something, she got it and
it would just finally happened. And I always thought she
must have the best manifestation abilities on the planet. But
now I now know she's just really really I mean,
that's probably one of the things. But she's also extremely
good at precognition. So now I know, Oh, she just
knew it was coming.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I see.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
I see like she like yeah, like something was coming
in the mail and she just already knew it was coming.
And then she will say out loud and you're like whatever,
and then I'll side shows up You're.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Like what yeah, yeah, or just she would say yeah,
it's like sometimes events this is before like I really
knew who she was, and she would kind of tell
me about events and stuff, and then they would happen,
and I'd be like, she must manifest it. You know,
I'm thinking the whole time manifestation. That makes more sense
to me. But now I know she very much is

(24:45):
able to do recognition, So so I think that's part
of it or a big part of what was happening. Yeah,
but I was so confused in the beginning, like how
does she know this stuff? How come she knows everything?

Speaker 7 (24:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And that's gotta be wild too, Like, I mean, so
she can read your mind twenty four to seven? Is that?

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Is that wear you in some kind of sense?

Speaker 7 (25:04):
Like?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Can you block it? Can she block it?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
She says that she can turn her attention away from
it if she doesn't want to see something, and she
does it by focusing on her body's senses because normally
she's mostly out of her body and so and so,
she says, if she focuses on her senses, then she
can just kind of stop doing it. I don't have
any problem with her reading my mind twenty four to
seven because she's always done it, and she's explained she's extent.

(25:30):
You know, even if you have a negative thought or
a bad thought or any enraged thought. She sees what
preceded that thought, and she sees what caused that thought,
and so she sees the big picture and there's a
compassionate response and she never judges about it. That's all
I understand. I understand why they thought that or why
they're saying, like thinking mean things. But yeah, it was

(25:50):
so funny because when she first read my husband's mind,
that's that's when she My husband's like, how do I
turn it off?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
How do I do?

Speaker 5 (25:57):
He's like, I understand it, you're going to do it,
but how do I make it so nobody else does it?
And she just kept saying, no, we see the big picture,
we see the whole thing. It's okay. And he's like, yeah,
but still I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So wow.

Speaker 7 (26:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
I recently took leading to a camp with a bunch
of spellers and they all I just recognize. I'm like,
going there, I know they're all littery. In my mind,
it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because I think the
highest of them.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
So, and I even said it's few, but I'm like,
I'm glad my daughter reads on mind because she thinks
of She can see how highly I think of her
her whole life, even before I knew she could spell.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
That's good. I love that. You know. I'm wondering regarding
the way your daughter learns.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
We learn, you know, through the average person learns through
like academics and reading books and you know, going to
school things like that. Is does she not need to
do any of that because she's kind of like tuned
into the conscious internet pretty much?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Is that how that works?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
That's what I believe too. In school, when she starts
to spelling and I saw that this stuff is just
so easy for her, she seems to know all of it,
even if it's college level. Once I showed the school
what she was capable of, and how you know, they
had fanced. Well, she's still in the same grade, but
they're giving her a material that's a couple of grades ahead.
Because one of the first things she said is she

(27:15):
didn't like school because it was too easy. It was
just ridiculously easy. But yeah, I've asked her that. I said, lelu,
do you this this? Before I knew that is she
had telepathy? I said, Lilu, how do you know this stuff?
Do you are you like accessing the internet or something
is there like some kind of an internet you're getting
to And she remember and that one question that one
time I asked her. She said, well, that time I

(27:35):
did know it, but yes, I do have access. And
so I was like huh, and you know, so she
was always saying stuff and it was starting to add
up until finally I said, lelu, like I was just
thinking that and you just broke down what I was thinking.
I said, are you able to read my mind? And
and she's like yeah. And then I was like, wait
a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Wait.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I'm like, okay, let me put down. I put an
easy word and I had her spell and he spells.
I'm like, oh my gosh. I said, hold on, and
then I did like a bigger word. She spells the
bigger work. Then I do a phrase and she spells
the whole. I was like whoa.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I was like, just like that one after the other.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, And I was like, my mind is blown Ben.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
So it's like so it's not just in the room
localized telepathy.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Like if I had a question about something that we
had no books or TV, what wasn't on anything like that,
will she be able to like pull it from the
conscious internet, Like I don't know, like you know, what's
the I don't know what's the height of Mount Everest
or something like that. You know, like is that kind

(28:39):
of information from what you understand out there in the
consciousness that she can just pull down from.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
She can. The limitation is in her ability to actually
spell it.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Okay, but yeah, she can.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
She's able to connect with people. I'm gonta be careful,
I would saying, because I'm people hounding her down. But
she's able to connect with like people's angels and stuff
and tell the person exactly what they need to hear,
and tell them stuff about their life that only they know,
and and so she's able to act. She only does

(29:13):
that like when it has to happen. But but yeah,
she's she has access to a lot of stuff, of course,
and she also has access to Yeah, I gotta be.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Careful, Yeah yeah no, but yeah, yeah, limit limit what
it is because you know you do have to I'm
with you, you know you do have to also protect
your child as well. I know that you are selective
on like for example, And I don't know if this
is good or now we can take this out, but
you mentioned that you're I guess you're doing some research

(29:44):
with Stanford. Can we talk about that?

Speaker 5 (29:47):
Yeah, yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Okay, So so you've allowed this Stanford to do research
on you and her. What is it that they're that
they're trying to find and research and look into. What's
their goal?

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah, So we're doing that research with doctor Diane, and
the goal is just to prove that telepathy is happening
and Leelu. And what's amazing about Leeu is she's at
the point where she could do it independently. And so
she we've been working on her doing it without me
holding the letter board. So yeah, she's gotten to the
point not only can she do it, I could do
a random sequence of letters or numbers, and she can

(30:20):
do it on the letter board. Sometimes she struggles because
of the motor skills. But I'm across the room. I'm
not holding it when we're doing this, when we're doing
this practice. But I've also recently discovered and it was
through another kid with telepathy, I discovered Leedu can do it.
I discovered that she could just touch the first letter
and then say the word so wow.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:40):
So the other day I played a game with her
and I put down a few people's names, my friends
of mine. I just put them in an order. I
was recording, and I said, we're just going to practice.
This is the first time I'm going to try it
because I saw another kid do it, and so we're
gonna try it. And so I had an order and
I had I'm recording and then I give to lead
the letter ward and so everybody who's watching the recording

(31:02):
knows what the order is. And so I was like,
what's the first word the name I'm thinking of for
the word, and she just touches it, touched the first
letter and says the name, and she does it for
like six in a row. She just says the name.
What was amazing is there was a name two of
my friends. One's Alex, one's Alex, and she got that
correct too. And that's so hard to say. They sound

(31:23):
so similar. They start with basically this. I can't believe
she got that correct too.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, yeah, so's right there too. There's another proof. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
So so now I'm thinking of having her when we
demonstrate and stuff, having her do that. There's a lot
of times on stage I'm not sure, you know, if
we don't, if she doesn't do it, consistently at home.
I don't want to make her do it on stage
and I always end up holding it on stage. But
I'm thinking she might be able to do that one
where she touches it and it just says it. And
so I'm excited about that. We're going to be doing
an event this weekend where we're going to demonstrate on

(31:53):
the stage and it's going to be Bliss on the
Bay Transcend Its Retreat and yeah, we're going to demonstrate
both hindsight and telepathy and then we'ren't doing it like
a Q and A. And so I'm thinking, if she's comfortable,
I will do have her demonstrate that because if we
haven't shown that yet on that.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, that'd be something special that for the entire group.
And regarding the stage, So you guys do these events,
Like does she is Leo? Is she aware that she's
on the stage and people are like expecting to see
something and like is she comfortable doing that?

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Like Leedu has been comfortable in front of a group
of people her entire life. It's like she knew and
there is no it's like about it. She knew that
this was her life mission to be a world teacher,
She told me that herself, and she's never had an
issue being on stage, and in fact, she seems to
really like it. And it's very rare. It's very rare
for one of these kids to be able to keep

(32:47):
their body in check for that long, to be able
to hold themselves still and be able to be in
front of a loud crowd and the energy of all
those people, never in all those lights. It's a really
hard thing. But she was kind of made to do
it because that was her life mission. I asked her,
I said, Ledu, how did I get blessed for you
to be my child? How did that happen?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
You know?

Speaker 5 (33:07):
What did I do to serve that? And she said, well,
you told me, And she said, in before we were born,
we were constructing this life together and she said, yeah,
you said you wanted a kid that was disabled in
this light or a kid that was going to be
a world teacher, and I decided to do both. And
she said she chose her disability. She said, those are

(33:28):
her words. She said, I chose a susibility to do that.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
So ye, yeah, I love that, Dahlia like, okay, because
I this is something that I love talking about on
my podcast as well. So, to the best of your understanding,
you just talked about that, she told you that before
you guys had this human experience, you guys talked, you
guys converse, you guys plan this out, this creation stuff.

(33:53):
Is there anything more outside of what you just explained
that she told you that she added to that, like,
so she can confirm from her perspective that we are
spiritual beings before we have this human experience.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Is that? Is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Yeah, definitely, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
And did she ever say that she had a different
name prior to being you know, Lee, do do anything
like that?

Speaker 5 (34:18):
I've never asked her that, Yeah, he says. She definitely
remembers our past.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Lives above the odds past lives. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
I don't ask her very much because if I can't validate,
I don't really like asking. But she said, like even
with some of the people we've talked to, she will
remember their past lives and stuff and she'll tell them
and that they'll explain like, oh, I've always had an
affinity for this in my whole life, and you're explaining why.
So she also talks about I asked her one day,
I said, Leelu, what else is something you can do

(34:47):
that I don't know about? And she says, well, I
can go into different timelines, and she says, and I
could see you what you would have done in the
other timelines too, And that was like, well this blew
my mind again.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
And is this something that she's teaching you how to
do because you've done it by accident?

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Is she teaching you? Is that something that that you're
interested to know how to step into potential timelines?

Speaker 5 (35:09):
I would love to learn that, but I and I
actually practice the soul saying myself when I wake up,
I'm like, oh, I've awakened in the best possible timeline,
and I'll say stuff like that, But I haven't actually
asked Ledu to teach me about that at all. Right now,
it's mostly the time that we have together. It's mostly
me helping her with her motor skills so that she
can communicate more to lepathy and also just to be

(35:31):
able to communicate. And then also she's mostly focused on
teaching me telepathy because she says it's very huge for
my mission, and so she's very dedicated. She teaches me
in my dreams every night. She'll like, go on my
dreams and teach me. And when we sit and practice
spelling every day, she will have me do it with her,
and some days I get it really really good. At

(35:53):
some days I'm like, I'm not getting anything. Lead you,
I don't understand she told me by next month. Though
she keeps saying that I'm going to get much more
better by next month, and her time frames are always
so spot on, so I'm really excited for that. But yeah,
there's been many times where I would just there's a
lot of the times I know what she's thinking. But
there's been a couple of practices where she like, I
practice with her the same way she practices with me

(36:15):
with the letterboard, and so I just have her hold
it and I'm the one touching it just because I'm
just going by how she does it. But there's been
times where I have her write down the word and
then put the word upside down, and then I could
just touch the first letter and I know it, and
I was like, oh, it's this, and then she'll show
me and I'm like, oh my gosh, you know, and
so yeah, it's it's getting there. But she says it's
very important. Telepathy is important to her like the world

(36:37):
knowing about it. That's the very she said, Like the
mindsight was the thing that got people's attention, but now
people are going to start really noticing telepathy. That's that's
where the world needs to go. And she's willing to
do whatever to have science, work with scientists, whatever it takes,
improve her skills, whatever it takes for the world to
start seeing it as a truth versus this mystic.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Yeah, and you'll be there every step of the way.
So that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
That's awesome at telepathy, that's I mean, you know, for
somebody like myself and other folks that have that that
we do the outer body stuff, we understand that we
don't we don't talk like how we're doing now. This
is a very crude way to communicate, having to figure
out our tone, the right words, the dialog, and and

(37:25):
telepathy that's what we do when we're outside of our
of our body as well. So the fact that she
hit the nail right on the head that telepathy is
a direction that we need to go. It makes sense
because a lot of us believe that we're moving into that,
you know, we're moving into that energetic realm where where
that's what we're doing mostly so it's a beautiful thing

(37:48):
that you're supporting.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Her and she's teaching you, which is amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
And I can also imagine there's so many things that
she can show you, but time right now is limited.
I mean, you know, it touched me when you mentioned that,
you know, trying to just even communicate with her keeps
you guys very busy and stuff where a lot of
other folks that don't have an autistic child, you know,

(38:13):
So I'm not saying folks take it for granted, but
it's a blessing. You know that we get to just
be able to just talk. Okay, you want some water,
great boom done right, But in your case, you're still
doing the same thing too. But it's I would think
sometimes it's fun, right, it's fun kind of you're kind
of playing to get the guessing game. Did I get
it right? And it also helps you grow, grow, grow, grow, grow.

(38:35):
So everything that you guys are doing is amazing.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I love it. I support all of it. I'm with it. Dahlia.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I want to ask you one more question before we
start doing our mindsight demonstration. What what do you think
from from everything that you've learned and understand to this day,
what do you think mindsight actually is and how is
it that we are actually seeing without our physical lives?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Oh, that's that is a question that I'm trying to
figure out myself, and that's why I am working with
researchers because I want to find that out. I'm like,
how is this working. There's a lot of theories, Like
some of the theories are that we are using our
skin because our skin very much has these sensors that
can pick things up. There's a theory that it is
our spirit. I've actually I remember one time when I

(39:23):
was when just dark walking and I remember walking, I said,
you know what, I just realize I'm not using my eyes.
Everything that looks like I'm using my eyes, Like everything
is in the perspective as if I was using my eyes.
But I said, but there's no way I'm actually using
my eyes. And so I said, if that's the case,
this is the same as me being out of body.
So I've I've had a lot of experiences out of
body too, and so I said, well, okay, if it's

(39:44):
like the same as being out of body, I should
be able to see behind me. And so I said, okay,
I want to see the bed, and because I was
standing the opposite side of the bed, and when I did,
my bed showed up like I was able to see it.
And I was like, but as soon as it happened, though,
I got disoriented because it was you know, kind of
like when you're playing with VR and you're you're the
VR is moving but you're not, and you're gett dis oriented.

(40:05):
So I remember getting disoriented. I said, Okay, okay, I'm
going to play the game like it's just coming from
my eyes until then. So yeah, it could very well
be spirit vision. I actually have a couple of friends
who are good at doing that. One of them is
actually Rob Freeman's niece Danny. She's really good at taking
her spirit out and going somewhere and seeing, and that's

(40:25):
how she does it. It's a little different than like
just using your skin or using X ray vision or
whatever we're doing. There's a lot of different aspects, but yeah,
she's able to see into people's pockets. She I remember
once we asked her she has she just had her
eyes closed and we asked her what the microwave like
ten feet behind her said, and she was able to
say it. And I was like, man, she's so good.

(40:46):
And I explained, asked her to explain it. I have
another friend who is absolutely amazing, and he does what's
called second sight, and it's a similar thing where he
is like taking his spirit out and he's able to.
There is no lie ivitation, so he's not like going
out of you know, it's not like typical where your
body falls asleep and you go out of body. It's
not typical like that. It's more like he's able to

(41:08):
consciously be in his body and have his spirit at
the same time. And so he's okay, I'll tell you
this one story. So I have this thing in my
house called the Chee Chamber, and it's this it's like
a portable room that you go in and train in,
and it's it does all these weird effects. And so
I wanted him to see my chea chamber and I said, hey,

(41:28):
I want you to come to my house and go
into the Chee Chamber with me. And so he transports
himself there and and when he did, I could feel him,
like I very much felt him, and I forgot how
tall he was because I hadn't seen him for a while.
And I looked up and then he texts me really quickly.
He goes, you saw me, and he goes and I
was like, no, I actually didn't see you, but I

(41:50):
just I just felt you. He goes, yeah, but you
looked up, and I was like, he saw me look up. Yeah,
But he actually he's done this a couple of times
where we would kind of visit like that, and then
like he calls it the approach, and I went and visited.
I went to him because he kind of taught me

(42:10):
how he does the approach. So I went and I
visited him, and as soon as I went to him,
he sent me a text saying hi or whatever. So
it's like he always was accurate about when it was happening.
And so anyway, that's another he calls that second site.
So that's another kind of thing what mind sight could be.
It's amazing. With blind people and with cited people alike.

(42:33):
We all open the same way. I've always seen it.
They are always opening the same way. The only difference
is with blind people I have to kind of explain
what they're seeing. I have to do it in this
specialized way so they're understanding what's going on, versus when
a sighted person starts seeing they know exactly. Like when
they see a color, they know exactly, Oh, that's red.
Usually it might be a little off in the beginning,

(42:53):
but still they know what it is. With a blind person,
and I'm training them, I have to do it in
a different way. So what I do is I'll take
them into a dark room and the first thing I'll
do is I'll get them really accustomed to knowing the
difference between light and darkness. Is are you in darkness
right now? Or is there light? Once they're good at that,
that's just black and white darkness and light is black

(43:14):
and white. Once they're good at that, this is how
I introduce colors. I'll say is it white, is it black?
Or is it different? And then I'll show them. I'll
show them different is it white? Is it flat or
is it white?

Speaker 7 (43:26):
Light?

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Is a darkness or is it different? And so once
they've gotten that down really well, then i'll say, yes,
that's the green, you know. And then I'll say green,
And so I'll say is it Now we're going to
play around is it white light, is it darkness? Or
is it green? And they'll play like that for a
little bit. And then once they're good at that, then
I start introducing the next color. I'll say is it white, light,
darkness free? Or is it different? And so, and that's

(43:48):
how I introduce it to blind people, because of course
they've never seen before. What that is.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Just to interrupt you, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
That is so cool because you've answered the question for
a lot of people when they ask this one question,
how do you teach a blind person the color blue?
And you've just explained your process on how to do that,
which is I couldn't think about that. So everybody right
now that's watching and listening to this, there's the answer

(44:18):
that's that's a great way to teach a blind person
any color, any any object, any anything.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
So, yeah, I had it. I had to interrupt you
because that was so cool. That was great. Thank you
for sharing that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
And with mindsight and blind people, I've worked with, worked
with several and they open and they get to the
point where they can read. These are people born blind.
These are people who have never seen light in their life.
And so what I you know how with mindsight, the
way you activate is by really the light sense. So
I call it that with the blind person. So what

(44:52):
I do with blind people, I do this with site it. Also,
what I do is I have them get used to
being able to detect things with their their senses, because
they can believe that. They can believe they can detect
things by touch, and then I start getting to more
senses that they it's harder to believe, like energy sense,
like you can detect it by energy. And so once

(45:12):
they're good at that kind of stuff, when I tell them, Okay,
now you're going to detect with light, it's very easy
for them to accept it because they've already already been
able to do it with these other senses, and so
now I'm like, okay, now it's time to do it
with light. And as soon as you're doing it with light,
then you're getting you're able to tell these things apart
with in a way that's similar division. And what's interesting
is with blind people, Like I've had some blind people

(45:35):
where they thought that maybe I was healing their eyes
because you know, I have an energy healing background and
are thinking, maybe she's healing my I have actually done
healing work on eyes before, but I didn't do that
with these people. I think mindsight's a little bit more.
It's more, you know, with healing, it's like you're not
sure if it's gonna work or not. But with mindsight,
I know it's go worth. So so I go with

(45:57):
the mindsight route. And I remember working with this one
amazing man and he was born blind, and I remember thinking,
he thinks that he's seeing with his eyes and somehow
I'm making his eyes better or he's somehow it's getting
more efficient for him to use his eyes. And so
I put a blindfold on him, and he was seeing
even better with the blindfold.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
You put wait, wait, wait, wait wait, you put a blindfold,
a dark, blacked out blindfold on a blind person, and
they were seeing better better.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
He was reading it so much fast. He was reading faster,
he was saying the shapes faster. And I asked him
what's the difference, and he said, well, it creates a
lot of contrast the blindfold, because if you're in a
lit room, there's just so much stimulation going on, and
they're still learning what is going on, They're still learning
everything around them, like a blind person like this one
for example, like we were sitting in a room and

(46:49):
there was a TV in front of him, but for
the first time it started to show up and he said,
whoa there's this rectangular thing on the table over there,
and I said, yeah, yeah, that's the TV. He's like, oh,
that's what the TV looks like. And then I said,
all right, time to go into the dark room now,
like into the bathroom, that's what I call them. And
so I'm like, time to go into the dark room again.
Do another practice. As we're walking by the TV, he's like,
wait a minute, it looked like the TV moved and

(47:10):
I was like, yeah, that's deaf perception. When you move
away from something, it looks like the thing is moving.
And he's like, whoa, I didn't know that. And I
remember I came back one day and he was like, dhlia,
all day long, I've been seeing this dark thing right
here and if it's just following me around And I
was like, that's your shadow and he's like, that's what
that is. That's what that looks like. Wow, And so

(47:33):
it happened a couple of times where I would throw
him off where he's like, there's that dark thing and
I was like, yeah, that's the shadow, so and yeah
and then whoa. Yeah. It's just so funny and it's
so funny to like how they start to realize, like, WHOA,
I didn't know. This is how vision worked. Like another
example is like when I was teaching him death perception,
I would have one object close to him, one thing

(47:53):
in the middle of one thing far away, and that's
at first he was just like, oh, I can't see
far away. And then you know, just you know, even
though I bare he started seeing here like I just
think I can't, and I'm like, of course you can.
Like if you can do this thing, you can do
that thing. And so he was just shocked that he
could see far away with the death perception. And what
he learned was that when things are far away, they
look smaller. And I said, yeah, I'm showing him, like

(48:15):
that's how you can tell somethings far away, because I'm
explaining that our eyes, they really are capable. Even though
we're in three dimensions, we can all we're only capable
of seeing two dimensions. And so the way you can
tell things apart is by shadows like dark and light,
and then also by if it looks smaller. If they're
the same size, but one looks smaller than the other,
that means one is farther away. And he was really

(48:36):
good and telling what was far away, what was close,
what was in the middle. He just got so good
at it. And but yeah, what really blew him away
was reading, Like because when he first came to visit,
I said, what is it that you want to accomplish
the most? And he said like, well, I'm just gonna
leave it in your hands. I'm just going to leave
it in your hands. I'm like, okay. But then as
I was just paying attention to what he was saying,

(48:57):
I'm like, well, tell me about yourself, tell me about
like your experience and stuff. And he's talking about a
lot about not being able to read and not ever
being able to read, So that kept coming up for him.
I was like, he wants to be able to read.
And he even said like one day I think I
will be able to read, and I'm thinking in my head,
I'm like, yeah, like this week you will, and so yeah,
so the next so I made sure I focused on

(49:19):
that part and then yeah, the next day he read
his first work and it was very emotional for him.
He even said, like, my whole life, they told me
I'd never be able to read fine print, and I
believe them, And it was just such an emotional moment.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
For him.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
It took him. He said, it took him months to
integrate and to like to just be able to understand
all of that idea and the conspant and everything, just
to be able to accept it. And but he, you know,
it was very grateful and happy, but just like what
does this mean and why now and all of this stuff?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, so and so he said, you know, he said
that they told him that he could never be able
to read fine print, and then he he said that.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
He believed them, and then you told him that he
can read and he believed you.

Speaker 5 (50:05):
Yes, And so belief is the that is the number
one thing with this. And so what's nice is because
you know, really he could always do it, like he
didn't need me at all, but people don't believe that.
And so what I offer is this process that makes
sense to people that they allow themselves to do it.
Sometimes though, because I'm Dahlia, I'm the one that does

(50:27):
this stuff, and I'm the authority figure, and I say
it with such confidence because I've seen it happen, they
immediately can do it because they believe me. As soon
as they say, oh, Dahlia says it did, it means
I can so they do.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Need you though. So they do need you though, they
need you.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
You you, like your daughter's been telling you as well,
there's a there's a purpose for you just showing up,
just being in their presence, just telling somebody with something
that most folks take for granted, which is our voice,
to just say hey, you can do it, and that
see life changing. It's just it's amazing how you're here

(51:05):
alive in this era where we have technology, we have
you know, video calls and and all this stuff to
where you can share this, you can trigger these remembrance,
these these gifts, these natural abilities from a from a
distance to anybody you know.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
And this is why it's important to get somebody.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Like you and your daughter in a in a in
a in a in a place where everybody can experience you.
An auditorium, folks. If this episode gets to anybody that
has the ability to or the position to put Dahlia
and her daughter in an in a big, massive auditorium

(51:44):
to just to just share, just to share their life
their experience, that alone will trigger thousands of people to
wake up, to wake up folks.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I I I feel that. How about you, Dallia, what
do you think about that.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Well, we've done two stage events so far, and you're right,
so many people have come up to us and said wow,
people in tears like that happens a lot at the
side Games. What was amazing is when I was on stage,
I'm seeing the colors. I'm explaining to the people in
the audience about the windows, which you know, we haven't
talked about the windows on this but basically it's the

(52:25):
place of where we can focus and see blind people
have the windows to you certain areas, but anyway, so
I'm explaining the windows thing and then I start seeing.
And as I was seeing, or afterwards, I should say,
a lot of people, about ten people came out to
me and said, when you explained that, I closed my
eyes and I did it with you, and for the
first time ever, I saw these windows and I was

(52:45):
able to see the colors with you. And I remember
thinking maybe one or two people, I'm like, they're making
this up, you know, But then it was like ten
people said it, and I said, wow, a group consciousness
thing happened, like a transfer. It is where everybody can
do it because they knew it, like they now, they
saw that it was a thing that's possible and this
was without a mask. It was just ice closed and
so amazing.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
That's that's it. That's the goal right there. That's your proof,
that's everybody's proof. And then those let's say those ten people,
they they share that experience with another ten.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
People and so on and so forth. I love this.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
But look, wow, there's so much we could talk about.
But let's get into his mindside, because folks definitely want
to see this. So Donia, first, let's do this. Do
you want to do your solo one first and then
and then our duo or you want to do other
way around.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
I'll let you pick.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
What do you let's I'll do it. I'll do a
solo thing just.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Because yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
So this is the mask I normally train with. I
haven't had much time. So this is the welder's mask.
That's what we call it.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Now what's in there? It's your mask.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
I'm going to turn it around. So this is like
this is cardboard paper, completely pitch black the opaque and
there is the same mass on the inside.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Ye perfect, And then you have this this black paper
all around it and it's like a welder's mask.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
So there it is there.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
Yeah, it looks ridiculous. I don't usually do this on
stage or anything, and I'm not going to how good
I'm going to do today?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Lets yeah, let's let's let let's try and do you
also have another mask that's not in the weather's thing.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Okay, okay, so let's give this a shot. Yeah, let's
do it. Let's do it.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
So this can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I can hear you? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
So Alex Gomez's team, I'm working with them, and they
came up with this because there's always that argument that
maybe you can peek in some way under a mask,
and so they created this to show that.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
No, yeah, you're got Yeah, I'm just going to do
some I'm.

Speaker 5 (54:43):
Going to mix these up. Some are transparent. Actually, let
me do the transparents for the.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Mix and for and for folks that are listening to
this on an audio platform like Spotify, Apple, iHeartRadio. I'll
go ahead and try to narrate any part of that
Dahlia doesn't cover on here. Just you guys know what
she's doing.

Speaker 5 (55:03):
So all right, So this one I'm thinking is blue, Yeah,
it is blue.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
So folks, she has for those of you that aren't
seeing this, Dahlia has her whole entire head covered, and
she's waving these colored papers or sheets in front of
her eyes.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
So this color is red, it is red. It is red. Yeah,
it's red, absolutely. And this one's yellow it is yellow.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
And then so I'm gonna do some opaque ones please okay, yep,
oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Is this blue? It is blue? Okay, wow, fantastic, I
love it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:41):
This is orange?

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, orange, yeah, yep, orange.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
And this one is yellow.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
It is yellow. It is yellow. Love that was good. Yeah, yeah, no,
that's good. That's that's proof enough, right there. I love that.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Just for five yeah, please by all means, yeah, kind
of yeah, there you go. So now she's putting on
her regular blindfold mask.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
So you don't think I'm looking at the camera on
the perfect Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. So she's turned to the side,
she's facing away from the from the camera, and she
has a blindfold, and she's going to shuffle her cards
like she's doing now. And now she's putting behind her head.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
Wait a second, the windows are a little closed. Let
me get my hand out of mine, all right, go
for it, go for it. Windows.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
There is no perfect signs to this, folks.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
Okay, let's do it again, all right, go for it.
This is a close circle.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
It is a close circle. Yep, I can see it perfect.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
This is what is this a Is this a close square?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Close square?

Speaker 7 (56:46):
It is?

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Okay, this one is huh is this another close square?

Speaker 2 (56:55):
It is another close yeah square? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, plus
a plus sign. Absolutely, all right, We'll do one more.
We'll do one more.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
What is this one? It's this is open something or
it could be. Let me do another one because that
one could Yeah, go for it, go for it. This one?
Is it a close triangle?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Close triangle?

Speaker 7 (57:21):
It is?

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Last one is I'll just look at front. It was
an open triangle?

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Those line ones, those line ones like kill me because
I can't I missed the lines. I kind of lose
where they're at and everything. All right, Yeah, so folks,
Dahlia has her blindfold. Let me take off my glasses
and folks, we're doing this for the first time. Have
you ever done this before with anybody? I don't doom no, okay,
all right, yeah, all right, So I'm going to put

(57:48):
on my blindfold mass and you guys have seen this
on my on my shows and stuff, right, So I'm
gonna do that, and Dahlia, I'm going to have before
I forget, I'm gonna folks, I have UNO cards here, right,
So I'm gonna have a stack of UNA cards and
I'm going to just shuffle them right here in front
of the screen so you guys can see that I'm
shuffling it. There is no other set. Everything else is

(58:09):
inside the box.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Over there, right. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
just gonna hold up the UNA cards in front of
the camera while I have my blindfold, and then we'll
be able to place one.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
What are we gonna do? Are we gonna so?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, so we are going to do this,
So I'm gonna go ahead and put this over my.

Speaker 5 (58:29):
I also just found some patches so I could put
these on after or during afterwards.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah. All right, So Dahlia, you and I
both have our mask on, and I'm we're going to
test each other. So I'm going to go ahead and
start off by showing you I'm gonna put it on
the on the camera. Give me one second, all right,
and what do you see here?

Speaker 5 (58:48):
Nine?

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Yeah? It's a nine? Like do you know the color?

Speaker 5 (58:52):
What's red?

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah? All right, your turn, Go for it, show me something.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Oh you want to show you something? Okay, yeah, I
didn't realize, but I got start. We're good.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
We're gonna go back and forth.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
All right, Can you tell me what this is?

Speaker 2 (59:06):
It's like that too, can sam? Is it is from
the and? And then a t in blue?

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Let me actually show you the back of this one first.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
What is it B?

Speaker 5 (59:17):
It's B and and what's the word underneath B?

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Yeah? B likes like insect and there's a B. Yeah, yep,
that's awesome. I hear. What's this one?

Speaker 5 (59:27):
That one is a red eight?

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Red eight? Absolutely all right, go for it, you you
do it?

Speaker 5 (59:33):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
All right, I see like a like a t small
t yep. And what's the word the word go up
a little bit more turtle?

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Turtle And there's the picture of that the turtle.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
All right, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
All right, I'm holding up dice with blue three, a
blue three. I'm gonna do another one here and I'm
gonna switch it up.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
What's this one?

Speaker 5 (59:58):
That one is a red four?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Yeah, we are doing good. Let's do two more. So
you so you go ahead and show me two more
and then I'll show you too, more sure, sure, yeah, yeah,
all right, I see I see the picture. It's an
it's an apple, and.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Then we'll say another word penguin.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, I love it. Okay, I'm gonna hold something up
here from my desk. What's this?

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
What is it's a it's blue or it's like it's
like a stone maybe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Yeah, it's a blue stone.

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm trying to think of what the
stone is called.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Yeah, it's I think it's called lupus.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Okay, I wouldn't have gotten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Something like something something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
And let me see, let me find something else, all right,
here's something else on my desk, And all right, what
do I have here?

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Sorry, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
I was looking for something else for you. It's a
yellow thing. I I can't really sorry, it's a yellow
it's like what is that like these wax or something
like oh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Yeah yeah yeah lib bomb, live bomb? Yeah yeah, yellow
live bomb. That's awesome. All right, and go and you
want to show me something else.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
We're good.

Speaker 5 (01:01:02):
I'm gonna learn is my patches and stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yeah, do your patches? Let me take mine off here.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
I love just testing myself and some days some days
I can't. I mean well, patches, I usually can.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
But all right, this is about to blow your mind. Yeah,
it's about to blow your mind. Cut folks.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
So Dhally is gonna put on like are they like
pirate patch? Oh, they're the ones that stick.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
I'm gonna do both. I'm gonna do both.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Okay, yeah, do.

Speaker 7 (01:01:29):
It, do it? Do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
I tried the sticky ones and they like they hurt
my eyebrows. Yeah, wow, okay, yeah, you guys are seeing this.
She's putting them on. She's putting them on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
All right, I must do to Okay, oh wow, double down.
Let's do it right now.

Speaker 5 (01:01:48):
I'm not seeing, so you have to help me make
sure that they have it in the right place.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Sorry, yep, yep, Yeah you're getting it. Yep. Yeah you're covered. Yep,
you're covering.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
I hope I can see when I do this. I hope.
Don't make a full of myself.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
No, you're fine, you're fine. Awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Dang, guys, she's got like three layers over her ocular
organic eyeballs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:10):
Okay, let's I'm gonna try this too.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
Just for fun.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, let's push it. Wait,
I don't know, just mom, you got it. You got it? Okay, guys,
there is no way she's buried her eyes.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
I don't think I've done this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Hey, let's push it. Let's push it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:29):
This is like my eyes closed to I can't even say.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Do you want me to attest? You? Don't you want
me to put something out?

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Okay, I see, okay, how is it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Blue six em?

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
That's wild. Okay, I'm gonna do it again here, guys
they blue five ean. Okay, that's awesome. Let me do
let me show you this thing. What what is this?

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
I don't know what that is. It's like a it
looks it's like a spiritual symbol.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
It is. Yeah, it says three.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
Yeah, it looks like a three and something else.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Yeah, it's the own symbol. But yeah, that's that is yeah.
Yeah yeah, no, no, you're good here. Let me uh
hold on, hold on, let me see okay, I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
Trying to get this other window open.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
What about what is this that I have on the.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
It's like it's a jar of water.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Yeah, water.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I'm gonna do one more, one more thing that is
that is amazing here, I'm just gonna do this class.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Yeah, glasses, guys, look, I don't care what. I don't
care what. Yeah, please, I don't care what. I what
I could have shown shown you, like, yeah, your eyes
were buried, your eyes were buried.

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Oh my gosh, yes, wow yo, folks, that was round
of applause, standing ovation.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
That was cool. That was cool.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
Yeah, that was cool. I didn't do I've never done.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
What could you did it beyond the see we just
went beyond the frequency three sixty nine. Definitely, that was awesome.
I wow, I'm excited for you. I'm excited for me.
I'm excited for everybody seeing this. And folks, if by
watching this, if this has triggered you, if you guys
were closing your eyes and try and test yourself out,
if you saw something light, whatever the case, color comment below.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Let me know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Tell me what you see, what you experienced. I would
love to hear that from any of you. Dian that
was cool. So look and for the interest of time,
because folks, she has people to take care of. Okay,
So what we're gonna do is I'm going to ask
you my routine end of episode questions. I ask all
my guests, and remember, Dolliya, there's no right or wrong answer,
just yours.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Okay. So my first question to you is going to
be this, beyond all the knowledge and experience that you've
gained thus far, what still leaves you in awe and
still makes a question everything?

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Oh man? Just every day with my daughter, every day,
I'm questioning everything and how precognition is really blowing my
mind right now. Like when we got invited to Contact
in the Desert, we got invited to the side games
and stuff. I didn't know we were going to get invited.

(01:05:15):
In fact, when I heard about the side games, I
kept wanting to go because one of my one of
a speaker that I like, was gonna be there. And
so I said to Ledu Leadu, should I go by myself?
Should we booth go? What do you think? And I'm
thinking as a spectator, I am not thinking going on stage.
And Leda goes, we're going to be there and we're
going to be center stage. And I was like, really,
we're going to be invited to go?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
And I was like what?

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
And so I said, okay, I'll wait for the invite,
then I'll see what happens. And then maybe two months
later I got the invite for both at the same time,
and we most definitely were center stage like we were
in both events. They both we were told that we
were the stars of the event, so both times and
so so Ledu was definitely right on that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Wow beautiful, And how'd you feel? How do you feel
whenever you be okay before you get on stage?

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Are there butterflies in your stomach before you prepare because
you don't know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:08):
So I always feel I always feel this excitement because
I know it's going to make something big. I know
it was part of our plan and I know it's
going to be huge, and so because I know it's
going to be huge, my body reacts as if I'm nervous.
But I'm like so frustrated because it's the same reaction,
and I'm like, I'm not nervous, I'm just excited. But
why do I still have that same reaction. I just
can't wait if this is over with. But as soon

(01:06:29):
as I get on stage, I'm totally calm and comfortable again.
I remember when I went to contact, I was so nervous.
I was like, oh, I don't know if I'll be
able to see what the patches and stuff because when
you're nervous. The windows kind of go down, and I'm like,
I don't know, what if I like, I don't know.
As soon as I got on the stage, I was
so calm and I was like, Oh, this is going
to be so easy. And then when I put on
the my windows were bigger than they've ever been. It

(01:06:52):
was like I was being assisted and helped. It was
like I saw more than ever when I was at Contact,
and it was incredible. I remember host Ron, He's so awesome.
I remember him saying this was He actually cried. He
said this was the most important thing. He never lets
things go over time. He never does. He is very strict.
They're always ticking everybody out. After each talk with us,

(01:07:14):
he said, this is too important. You stay as long
as you need. And I was like, whoa, this is
so crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Awa, thank you for sharing that, and good job Ron
for for letting the show go on. Dahlia, what do
you think is the ultimate purpose of life?

Speaker 5 (01:07:33):
What do I personally think? I think it's just a
gather experience, and I do believe that we have access
to all of our experiences and it's collective, like lead
you for example, like she just has access to She
has access to so many lives and so many thoughts
and so many things, and I just think it just
increases our experience the more we do it. Yeah, one

(01:07:55):
of the things that Leado explained to me is like,
we have these beings we can call upon. We have
angel we have guides, we have all of these beings
we can call upon, and they don't they don't interfere
unless we ask them to. They're always there one hundred
percent of the time, totally around us. They're not like
in some distant place that you have to like ask
for them to come and then maybe they'll come. No,
they're like completely around us. They're telepathic. And she explained

(01:08:18):
that they don't help us because it's their job. They
do it because they're not the headhunters. We're all the headhunters.
We're the same as they are, and we're like, let's
just say, like we're close buddies like with them, we're
like their friends, and they're doing it because they love us.
And it's more like that. So, yeah, we have access
to all these incredible interdimensional beings that are always putting

(01:08:38):
things in our favor. And when everything is for us,
everything we're thinking, even if it looks bad in the end,
it is for us in some way. So yeah, I
don't remember what your question was.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
About the ultimate purpose of life. Yeah, yeah, Now I
love it. It's the experience and the growth.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
I first of all, I love your explanation regarding the
guides being around us and not being so far away,
and they're everything's for us and with love.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
That is huge thing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
That's why I talk about a lot here. Love, love, love, love, love,
execute with love. Beautiful Dahalia, What is what is your
definition of God?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
God?

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
How do I explain that? I would say it is
also love, and it's also something we're a part of,
kind of like you know, we have our hand, and
then we have things that think they're separate from the
hand because they're you know, but in their fingers and
in a way they're kind of are, but they are
all together. They are the hand. And I believe that's
what you know, We're all a part of God. And

(01:09:42):
the whole idea that we're separate is is more of
an illusion. And it's the whole idea of separation that
causes a lot of feelings of specialness and like, oh,
I'm important and trying to make yourself be an individual.
But at the same time it causes a lot of
isolation and anxiety and stuff. But so there's good things
about having that independence and separation for the experience part

(01:10:05):
of it. But in reality or in the end, we
are really all one thing, and we are a part
of this love and eventually everybody kind of opens up
it to it again.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Yeah, thank you. And what is love? In your definition?

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
What is love? It is the cosmic force that creates everything,
and it is very healing. And I always say that
we're all loved generators. So whether we believe it or not,
we actually are love, and we have a purpose. Even
if it looks bad what we're doing, we still have
a purpose in somebody's world. And sometimes we might forget

(01:10:41):
that we're love. I remember, for example, like let's say
you're playing a bunch of kids are playing pirates or something,
and one of the kids ends up dying. They forget
it's a game, and then they start crying like, oh,
I guess got killed and they were mean to me.
But they forgot the whole thing was a game. They
were supposed to be mean to you, and you were
supposed to pretend to die and stuff, and in reality
was all this this big fun game that you decided

(01:11:04):
to play. So anyway, all of it is good, even
if it looks bad in the moment and you forget
it's a game.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Yeah, now that's wow, that's a great I never even
thought about it like that when as a as a
young man, you know, I was playing with my friends outside,
you know, cops and robbers and everything, and in the
game there's bad guys and good guys, and then at
the end of it, we're just all laughing and had
a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Love that. Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
And my last question part of this series is if
you could go back to little Dahlia, you know, when
she's first figuring things out, what would you tell her today?

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
What would I tell her? It's kind of hard that
I would just say maybe the big picture. I'm always
remembering the big picture. When you are reading a book
or you're watching like a Kung Fu movie and the
main character looks like he's in trouble and you're worried,
you still know the main character is good survive.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
At the end.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
You know it's going to be happily ever after for
the most part. And so if you remember that, then
when you're watching the part where things are hard, you're
okay with it. It's more of an entertainment than it
is like a fear of something really bad's gonna happen.
So if you remember the big picture of what you're
doing and the big picture that things are going to

(01:12:22):
be okay and you're seeing that, it's a lot easier
to handle when things are hard, like it's going to
be okay in the end anyway. Kind of like for example,
like let's say someone is afraid that their rent is
not going to be paid or something. In the end,
they're going to eventually get it paid, and in the
end it's going to balance out, and it probably always
has for them. And if they just remember it's going
to balance out anyway, you can just stop worrying about

(01:12:44):
the in between. When I was a kid, I do
remember getting visions and stuff that I was supposed to
be doing work like this like this, like where I
was doing healing work, and I remember seeing that as
a young kid, And if I just kind of remembered
that or remember that outcome, it would have when I
got through confusing places, I could just remember, wait a minute, well,

(01:13:05):
it's going to be happily ever after anyway, and I'm
going to be doing this amazing work, so I can
just stop worrying about this. I could just let this
flow and just go on the roller coaster ride and
the ebbs and flows and just enjoy the ebbs and
flows and experience it without worrying because I know where
it would end up.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Yeah, now, beautiful. Well, I love all your explanations on this.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
I just you know, it made me think of like
when you're watching an episode of a series, that there's
always some kind of bad thing that happens, but you
know that at the end they're going to figure it out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:34):
So yeah, yeah, I was watching them on the last flight.
I went somewhere and I was watching john Wick two. Yeah,
and I were thinking, I never have to worry if
john Wick is going to survive, because there's a John
Wick three. Yes, so I already know he's going to survive.
It looks bad. I'm just watching how he's going to
get out of it, really.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But john Wick in the movie thinks that I will
shoot like this could be and everything. But we as
the guides or the observed, we know that he's going
to be all right. Dang, that's a good one. I'm
about to figure that in some kind of episode too, though.
And where can people find you, Dahlia, if you're okay
people contacting you.

Speaker 5 (01:14:10):
Yeah, this week my website will be live. It's Dahlia
Brookline dot com and so I'll have a list of
places I'll be and different things that I offer in
different ways that people can train. So yeah, find me
there or you can email me at info at Dahlia
birkline dot com right now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
And folks, I'll have her contact information and descriptions below,
so you guys can just scroll down and click and
talk and chat. And Dahlia, thank you once again for
gifting us your time and now you have things to do.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Say hi to lead you, for me, for everybody else.
She's a superstar.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Five years from now, she's going to be doing amazing
things with you right alongside with her doing equally greater
and more amazing things.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
We're happy for you, we support you, and we love you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Okay, thank you awesome, And folks, with that being said,
don't forget I have a website. You guys will see
it in the description below. I have a new book
also in the description below, and folks, thanks for joining us.
We will see you guys on the next episode. So
as always, I love you, I see you, I hear you,

(01:15:21):
I am you. Continue to ask questions, don't be afraid
to pull back the current and take a deeper look.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Push forward, always reaching beyond the frequency.

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