August 21, 2025 • 10 mins
Alan Dershowitz’s comments about potentially suing Michael Cohen over statements linking him to Jeffrey Epstein reflected a defensive legal strategy aimed at protecting his reputation. Dershowitz has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection to Epstein and framed Cohen’s remarks as defamatory. By raising the prospect of a lawsuit, he positioned himself as someone seeking to challenge those statements through formal legal channels rather than allowing them to circulate unchecked. His response was characteristic of a high-profile attorney using the law as a means of addressing reputational harm in a public dispute.
From a broader perspective, the episode illustrates how litigation is often employed by prominent figures facing reputational challenges tied to controversial associations. Defamation law allows individuals to pursue damages if false and harmful claims are made against them, though such cases also raise complex questions about free speech and public discourse. Dershowitz’s stance toward Cohen underscored the tension between preserving one’s reputation and navigating the fallout of being connected—directly or indirectly—to Epstein. In this sense, the situation was less about uncovering new facts regarding Epstein and more about the legal and rhetorical strategies used by those whose names surface in his orbit.
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Alan Dershowitz Says He's Suing Michael Cohen Over Epstein Claims (thedailybeast.com)
From a broader perspective, the episode illustrates how litigation is often employed by prominent figures facing reputational challenges tied to controversial associations. Defamation law allows individuals to pursue damages if false and harmful claims are made against them, though such cases also raise complex questions about free speech and public discourse. Dershowitz’s stance toward Cohen underscored the tension between preserving one’s reputation and navigating the fallout of being connected—directly or indirectly—to Epstein. In this sense, the situation was less about uncovering new facts regarding Epstein and more about the legal and rhetorical strategies used by those whose names surface in his orbit.
(commercia at 7:36)
to contact me:
bobbycapucci@protonmail.com
source:
Alan Dershowitz Says He's Suing Michael Cohen Over Epstein Claims (thedailybeast.com)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Alan
Dershowitz has come out and said that he is suing
Donald Trump's ex lawyer Michael Cohen for his claims that
Alan Dershowitz took part in the abuse of girls while
hanging out with and associating with Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm
(00:21):
sure Alan Dershowitz is feeling himself no pun intended. Ever
since him and Virginia dropped their competing lawsuits. Ever since then,
Dershowitz has been bolstered by the fact that that lawsuit
was dropped, and he's been making the rounds and basically
doing a victory lap. Well, now he's decided that he's
gonna take it the next step and he's going to
(00:43):
sue Michael Cohen. Talk about a battle of the undesirables. Huh.
All right, So let's get to this article from The
Daily Beast and let's get caught up real quick. Headline.
Alan Dershowitz says he's suing Michael Cohen over Epstein claims.
This article was authored by Justin barragona passionate defender of
(01:05):
former President Donald Trump and famed attorney Alan Dershowitz. Threatened
former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen with a defamation lawsuit on
Thursday night after Cohen referenced dershowitz relationship with deceased pedophile
Jeffrey Epstein. So nobody can even comment on your relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein at this point. You're just gonna sue
(01:26):
everybody at some point. Alan Dershowitz has to run out
of money as well. Right, he doesn't have an infinite
supply of dough, So how's he going to sue everybody
who talks about his and Epstein's relationship. I'm so sick
of the rich and the powerful using the fact that
they have more dough than the rest of us as
some kind of lever. Oh, don't say anything, I'll sue
(01:47):
you into oblivion. I have more dough than you, better
lawyers than you, and you have no chance. And that's
how they all live, right, go about their lives doing
whatever the hell they want, abusing people, having them sign
NDAs and shit like that. And it's all designed to
protect the rich and the powerful. And it's also designed
(02:08):
and I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
but to make your children, your friends, your sisters disposable
to people like this. Appearing on Fox News, host and
longtime Trump confidante Sean Hannity showed Thursday evening, Dershowitz was
ostensibly tapped to discuss the criminal indictments against Trump, which
(02:30):
center on the ex president's hush money scheme to silence
a porn star during his successful twenty sixteen presidential campaign. So,
for all of the things they threw out Trump, all
of the different indictments, all of the different accusations, this
is the one that they get to stick. And it's
funny when Trump was first elected and all of the
(02:53):
craziness was going on about the fact that he was
a criminal, he was a crook, he was in bed
with the Russians, all of that. What did I say
at the time, If you remember, if you ever want
to go after somebody, go after their money. And if
you go after their money and the way they spend it,
especially when you're talking about people that are rolling in
the circles that Trump was rolling in, You're going to
(03:15):
be able to find something. All of these dudes are crooked,
every single one of these rich people who play the
game on Wall Street. They're all up to no good.
Now I'm not saying they're all raping people or they're
molesting people, but they're certainly playing games. Just take a
look at all of these hedge fund managers. All of
them have been clipped by the SEC at some point.
So it's always about the money. And if you can
(03:37):
follow the money and establish that that money comes from
an ill gotten source, well you can really wrap things
up nice and put a bow on it. And that's
why I think that this charge that they're sticking Trump
with is a bit ps and a bit flimsy, and honestly,
it's smacks of performative politics, and that's no good for anybody.
(03:57):
After claiming the New York Prosecutor deliberately violated the statute
of limitations with its Trump indictments, Dershowitz then claimed the
prosecutor's office had additional problems by relying on Cohen's testimony
due to the extrump lawyer's credibility issues. Then the Harvard
law professor personally laid into Cohen. Let me tell you
(04:17):
something about Michael Cohen, Dershowitz exclaimed, he's not through with
his problems. He just tweeted about me, saying because I
had attacked his credibility that I was involved with underage
girls on Epstein's Island. I'm about to sue him for defamation.
And he's not even playing around. Dershowitz is a sue
happy son of a bitch. This dude's gonna get out
there and definitely sue Michael Cohen. And you want to
(04:40):
talk about celebrity deathmatch waiting to happen, Where's MTV when
you need them? He continued, As you know, the woman
who falsely accused me acknowledged that she may have made
a mistake in misidentifying me. And there's no doubt that
the whole entire situation with Alan Dershowitz and Virginia recanting
(05:02):
her initial claims bolsters what Alan Dershowitz has to say,
and it also creates in roads for people to question
what she has said in the past. And as we
can see, Prince Andrew is already trying to utilize all
of that because in their mind, they're saying, well, if
she misremembered here, where else did she misremember? Now I
would normally not sue someone for writing that kind of nonsense,
(05:25):
But this is Michael Cohen who is about to prevent
Donald Trump from running for president of the United States,
and I'm going to sue him for defamation. When we
read articles like this where it pitched somebody like Alan
Dershowitz against another scumbag like Michael Cohen, I feel like
I'm rooting for like the Taliban against al qado over here.
There's no winner here. Both dudes are scummy and everything
(05:48):
they're involved in is just as scummy as they are.
Dershowitz went on to say that his lawsuit against Cohen
will prove the former Trump attorney's repeated lies. Because Cohen
will he'll be unable to refuse to testify in a
civil case. His problems are just beginning. I will make
it easier for Joe Takapina to cross examine him. Dershowitz
(06:11):
concluded invoking Trump's current defense attorney. Earlier on Thursday, Cohen,
who was sentenced to three years in prison over his
role in the illegal hush money scheme, accused Dershowitz of
taking part in Epstein's alleged sexual assaults. Says the guy
who spent time with Jeffrey Epstein on underage sex Island
at Alan Dershowitz, like Rudy Kaludi, has become a complete joke,
(06:36):
representing a bigger joke. Cohen tweeted linking to a NEWSMAC
segment featuring Dershowitz criticizing the ex Trump attorney. A victim
of Epstein who purportedly committed suicide while awaiting trial over
allegations of sexual abuse of minors, settled a lawsuit against
Dershowitz last November overclaims the Harvard professor sexually assaulted her.
(06:58):
In a statement, Virginia Row Roberts said she may have
made a mistake in identifying mister Dershowitz as one of
her abusers. Shortly after the suit was settled, though, Roberts
said that Dershowitz was not exonerated regardless of his claims otherwise, well,
maybe not exonerated in the sphere of the public opinion.
But I highly doubt anyone's ever gonna do anything legally
(07:21):
to Alan Dershowitz. Nobody's been arrested as far as people
super close to Jeffrey Epstein, people pulling the levers, people
like Sarah Kellen Vickers haven't even been arrested. And people
think Alan Dershowitz is gonna get busted, Yeah, right, whether
or not mister dershowitz admissions undermine his previous denials of
the charges made against him. Is for others to say.
(07:45):
She asserted, the settlement agreement limits what I can say,
and I will abide by it unless and until I
am released from it. However, those admissions are not consistent
with exoneration, and I highly doubt there was exonnerat right.
But the closest thing you can get to that is
settling with your accuser both ways with no money being exchanged.
(08:08):
Remember this was settled by Virginia and Dirty Dirsh and
not one single dollar was exchanged. Roberts had it. Stopping
the false charges against me and securing mister Dershowitz's public
acknowledgment of my good faith was important to me and
my family. However, I did not and would never exonerate
(08:28):
mister Dershowitz in return. Additionally, another Epstein survivor insisted in
a twenty seventeen deposition that the multimillionaire sex trafficker forced
her to take part in a threesome with Dershowitz, an
allegation that the celebrated attorney has adamantly denied. Well, he's
denied all of it, right, and according to him, his
(08:50):
wife was aware of everything he was doing, and he
never took his underpants off when he was getting a massage.
So there's that. But I continue to ask myself and
the universe, what the hell is a grown ass man
doing over at his buddy's house getting a massage from
some foreign woman who probably didn't even speak English. What
about that seems normal to you? And if it does
(09:13):
seem normal to you, you're obviously hanging out with fellow travelers,
people like Epstein, and you're all down with the same shit.
Because if I walked into one of my boys' houses
and there was a bunch of girls there and there
was massages going on, and shit, if it wasn't a
bachelor party, I'd be real concerned about what the hell
was going on right now. And I certainly wouldn't be
(09:34):
robing myself in the living room to catch a massage
from some broad when I'm over at Vin's house to
watch the ballgame. So this isn't normal behavior. This isn't
the kind of shit normal dudes do when they're hanging out.
But in Jeffrey Epstein's circle, if you were chilling with him,
this was the norm. This is the way of life.
And all of these people that were with them all
(09:56):
the time, they can say whatever they want, but the
facts are the facts. You were rolling around with this scumbag,
and at the very least, you were riding the coattails
of one of the biggest human traffickers in history. So
for all of Dershowitz's claims and his denials, there's no
denying the fact that him and Epstein were boys, and
the fact that he's also admitted that he got a
(10:17):
massage at Epstein's house, though he says it was obviously
someone who was of age. His wife was there, and
of course he didn't take his underpants off. And as
the days go by and things heat up with Donald
Trump's indictment, I would expect more rants from Alan Dershowitz.
And guess what, we'll be here for every last one
of them. All right, folks, that's going to do it
(10:39):
for this one. All of the information that goes with
the episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Alan
Dershowitz has come out and said that he is suing
Donald Trump's ex lawyer Michael Cohen for his claims that
Alan Dershowitz took part in the abuse of girls while
hanging out with and associating with Jeffrey Epstein. And I'm
(00:21):
sure Alan Dershowitz is feeling himself no pun intended. Ever
since him and Virginia dropped their competing lawsuits. Ever since then,
Dershowitz has been bolstered by the fact that that lawsuit
was dropped, and he's been making the rounds and basically
doing a victory lap. Well, now he's decided that he's
gonna take it the next step and he's going to
(00:43):
sue Michael Cohen. Talk about a battle of the undesirables. Huh.
All right, So let's get to this article from The
Daily Beast and let's get caught up real quick. Headline.
Alan Dershowitz says he's suing Michael Cohen over Epstein claims.
This article was authored by Justin barragona passionate defender of
(01:05):
former President Donald Trump and famed attorney Alan Dershowitz. Threatened
former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen with a defamation lawsuit on
Thursday night after Cohen referenced dershowitz relationship with deceased pedophile
Jeffrey Epstein. So nobody can even comment on your relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein at this point. You're just gonna sue
(01:26):
everybody at some point. Alan Dershowitz has to run out
of money as well. Right, he doesn't have an infinite
supply of dough, So how's he going to sue everybody
who talks about his and Epstein's relationship. I'm so sick
of the rich and the powerful using the fact that
they have more dough than the rest of us as
some kind of lever. Oh, don't say anything, I'll sue
(01:47):
you into oblivion. I have more dough than you, better
lawyers than you, and you have no chance. And that's
how they all live, right, go about their lives doing
whatever the hell they want, abusing people, having them sign
NDAs and shit like that. And it's all designed to
protect the rich and the powerful. And it's also designed
(02:08):
and I hate to be the bearer of bad news,
but to make your children, your friends, your sisters disposable
to people like this. Appearing on Fox News, host and
longtime Trump confidante Sean Hannity showed Thursday evening, Dershowitz was
ostensibly tapped to discuss the criminal indictments against Trump, which
(02:30):
center on the ex president's hush money scheme to silence
a porn star during his successful twenty sixteen presidential campaign. So,
for all of the things they threw out Trump, all
of the different indictments, all of the different accusations, this
is the one that they get to stick. And it's
funny when Trump was first elected and all of the
(02:53):
craziness was going on about the fact that he was
a criminal, he was a crook, he was in bed
with the Russians, all of that. What did I say
at the time, If you remember, if you ever want
to go after somebody, go after their money. And if
you go after their money and the way they spend it,
especially when you're talking about people that are rolling in
the circles that Trump was rolling in, You're going to
(03:15):
be able to find something. All of these dudes are crooked,
every single one of these rich people who play the
game on Wall Street. They're all up to no good.
Now I'm not saying they're all raping people or they're
molesting people, but they're certainly playing games. Just take a
look at all of these hedge fund managers. All of
them have been clipped by the SEC at some point.
So it's always about the money. And if you can
(03:37):
follow the money and establish that that money comes from
an ill gotten source, well you can really wrap things
up nice and put a bow on it. And that's
why I think that this charge that they're sticking Trump
with is a bit ps and a bit flimsy, and honestly,
it's smacks of performative politics, and that's no good for anybody.
(03:57):
After claiming the New York Prosecutor deliberately violated the statute
of limitations with its Trump indictments, Dershowitz then claimed the
prosecutor's office had additional problems by relying on Cohen's testimony
due to the extrump lawyer's credibility issues. Then the Harvard
law professor personally laid into Cohen. Let me tell you
(04:17):
something about Michael Cohen, Dershowitz exclaimed, he's not through with
his problems. He just tweeted about me, saying because I
had attacked his credibility that I was involved with underage
girls on Epstein's Island. I'm about to sue him for defamation.
And he's not even playing around. Dershowitz is a sue
happy son of a bitch. This dude's gonna get out
there and definitely sue Michael Cohen. And you want to
(04:40):
talk about celebrity deathmatch waiting to happen, Where's MTV when
you need them? He continued, As you know, the woman
who falsely accused me acknowledged that she may have made
a mistake in misidentifying me. And there's no doubt that
the whole entire situation with Alan Dershowitz and Virginia recanting
(05:02):
her initial claims bolsters what Alan Dershowitz has to say,
and it also creates in roads for people to question
what she has said in the past. And as we
can see, Prince Andrew is already trying to utilize all
of that because in their mind, they're saying, well, if
she misremembered here, where else did she misremember? Now I
would normally not sue someone for writing that kind of nonsense,
(05:25):
But this is Michael Cohen who is about to prevent
Donald Trump from running for president of the United States,
and I'm going to sue him for defamation. When we
read articles like this where it pitched somebody like Alan
Dershowitz against another scumbag like Michael Cohen, I feel like
I'm rooting for like the Taliban against al qado over here.
There's no winner here. Both dudes are scummy and everything
(05:48):
they're involved in is just as scummy as they are.
Dershowitz went on to say that his lawsuit against Cohen
will prove the former Trump attorney's repeated lies. Because Cohen
will he'll be unable to refuse to testify in a
civil case. His problems are just beginning. I will make
it easier for Joe Takapina to cross examine him. Dershowitz
(06:11):
concluded invoking Trump's current defense attorney. Earlier on Thursday, Cohen,
who was sentenced to three years in prison over his
role in the illegal hush money scheme, accused Dershowitz of
taking part in Epstein's alleged sexual assaults. Says the guy
who spent time with Jeffrey Epstein on underage sex Island
at Alan Dershowitz, like Rudy Kaludi, has become a complete joke,
(06:36):
representing a bigger joke. Cohen tweeted linking to a NEWSMAC
segment featuring Dershowitz criticizing the ex Trump attorney. A victim
of Epstein who purportedly committed suicide while awaiting trial over
allegations of sexual abuse of minors, settled a lawsuit against
Dershowitz last November overclaims the Harvard professor sexually assaulted her.
(06:58):
In a statement, Virginia Row Roberts said she may have
made a mistake in identifying mister Dershowitz as one of
her abusers. Shortly after the suit was settled, though, Roberts
said that Dershowitz was not exonerated regardless of his claims otherwise, well,
maybe not exonerated in the sphere of the public opinion.
But I highly doubt anyone's ever gonna do anything legally
(07:21):
to Alan Dershowitz. Nobody's been arrested as far as people
super close to Jeffrey Epstein, people pulling the levers, people
like Sarah Kellen Vickers haven't even been arrested. And people
think Alan Dershowitz is gonna get busted, Yeah, right, whether
or not mister dershowitz admissions undermine his previous denials of
the charges made against him. Is for others to say.
(07:45):
She asserted, the settlement agreement limits what I can say,
and I will abide by it unless and until I
am released from it. However, those admissions are not consistent
with exoneration, and I highly doubt there was exonnerat right.
But the closest thing you can get to that is
settling with your accuser both ways with no money being exchanged.
(08:08):
Remember this was settled by Virginia and Dirty Dirsh and
not one single dollar was exchanged. Roberts had it. Stopping
the false charges against me and securing mister Dershowitz's public
acknowledgment of my good faith was important to me and
my family. However, I did not and would never exonerate
(08:28):
mister Dershowitz in return. Additionally, another Epstein survivor insisted in
a twenty seventeen deposition that the multimillionaire sex trafficker forced
her to take part in a threesome with Dershowitz, an
allegation that the celebrated attorney has adamantly denied. Well, he's
denied all of it, right, and according to him, his
(08:50):
wife was aware of everything he was doing, and he
never took his underpants off when he was getting a massage.
So there's that. But I continue to ask myself and
the universe, what the hell is a grown ass man
doing over at his buddy's house getting a massage from
some foreign woman who probably didn't even speak English. What
about that seems normal to you? And if it does
(09:13):
seem normal to you, you're obviously hanging out with fellow travelers,
people like Epstein, and you're all down with the same shit.
Because if I walked into one of my boys' houses
and there was a bunch of girls there and there
was massages going on, and shit, if it wasn't a
bachelor party, I'd be real concerned about what the hell
was going on right now. And I certainly wouldn't be
(09:34):
robing myself in the living room to catch a massage
from some broad when I'm over at Vin's house to
watch the ballgame. So this isn't normal behavior. This isn't
the kind of shit normal dudes do when they're hanging out.
But in Jeffrey Epstein's circle, if you were chilling with him,
this was the norm. This is the way of life.
And all of these people that were with them all
(09:56):
the time, they can say whatever they want, but the
facts are the facts. You were rolling around with this scumbag,
and at the very least, you were riding the coattails
of one of the biggest human traffickers in history. So
for all of Dershowitz's claims and his denials, there's no
denying the fact that him and Epstein were boys, and
the fact that he's also admitted that he got a
(10:17):
massage at Epstein's house, though he says it was obviously
someone who was of age. His wife was there, and
of course he didn't take his underpants off. And as
the days go by and things heat up with Donald
Trump's indictment, I would expect more rants from Alan Dershowitz.
And guess what, we'll be here for every last one
of them. All right, folks, that's going to do it
(10:39):
for this one. All of the information that goes with
the episode can be found in the description box.
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