August 22, 2025 • 11 mins
In an interview for her podcast series Broken: Jeffrey Epstein, journalist Tara Palmeri recounts a conversation Brad Edwards—who represented several of Epstein’s victims—had with Igor Zinoviev, Epstein’s bodyguard of approximately five years. Edwards described how Zinoviev issued a chilling warning: “‘You don't know who you're messing with and you need to be really careful. You are on Jeffrey's radar… you don't want to be on Jeffrey's radar’,” to which Edwards asked, “Who am I messing with?” Zinoviev quietly responded with three letters: “C‑I‑A.”
Digging deeper, Palmeri reports that, according to Edwards, Zinoviev said that in 2008—while Epstein was serving his work‑release sentence—he was sent to the CIA headquarters in Virginia. Allegedly, Epstein attended some kind of private class there as the only civilian, during which he was handed a book containing a handwritten note. Zinoviev said he was instructed not to read it, only to deliver it to Epstein behind bars. The nature of the message, and any follow‑up, remains unclear.
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Epstein Was 'Protected' By CIA and Trump, Former Bodyguard Claims
Digging deeper, Palmeri reports that, according to Edwards, Zinoviev said that in 2008—while Epstein was serving his work‑release sentence—he was sent to the CIA headquarters in Virginia. Allegedly, Epstein attended some kind of private class there as the only civilian, during which he was handed a book containing a handwritten note. Zinoviev said he was instructed not to read it, only to deliver it to Epstein behind bars. The nature of the message, and any follow‑up, remains unclear.
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Epstein Was 'Protected' By CIA and Trump, Former Bodyguard Claims
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Ever since the Jeffrey Epstein fiasco began, people
have been asking questions about Jeffrey Epstein's so called ties
to the CIA. Now, a lot of the conversation around
Jeffrey Epstein's ties to the CIA has been washed out
(00:20):
recently by all these voices talking about the Masad angle.
And while the massades certainly out of place at the table,
they weren't the ones preparing the dish that was the CIA.
And Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to the CIA are very,
very apparent. And some people still want to act like
Epstein had nothing to do with intelligence, had nothing to
(00:42):
do with the CIA, and was just some kind of lone,
sick o predator. But that's not the case. And I
think that there is ample evidence out there to point
us in the direction at the very least that Jeffrey
Epstein was being run as an asset, and in my opinion,
his handlers weren't some foreign boogeymen. We have our own
(01:03):
scum bags right here in the good old USA who
wrote the book on how these operations are supposed to
go down. So today we have an article from Radar
Online and the headline Jeffrey Epstein boasted, I'm never going
to be prosecuted as former bodyguard claim sex predator was
protected by CIA and his close friend Trump. And this
(01:25):
is from Jeffrey Epstein's former bodyguard. This article was authored
by Ryan Brunetti. There may have been a major reason
Jeffrey Epstein continued to avoid the law and any sort
of harsh punishment. He was protected by the CIA, at
least that's what his former bodyguard claimed. RadarOnline dot Com
(01:46):
can reviewal and we've heard this from the bodyguard previously.
And this bodyguard was an ex UFC fighter and he
ended up becoming a bodyguard for Jeffrey Epstein. And he's
had some very interesting things to say every time he
talks about Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein was up to.
Sonoviev said, you don't know who you're messing with, and
(02:07):
you need to be really careful. Edwards told Paul Mary
for her podcast series Broken Jeffrey Epstein. You were on
Jeffrey Epstein's radar and somebody that Jeffrey pays a lot
of attention to, which is not good. You don't want
to be on Jeffrey's radar. Well, yeah, if the dude's
a CIA, cutout last thing you want right, talk about
destroying your life. I mean, these people have a lot
(02:29):
of different ways that they can wreck you. Upload some
shit on your computer, you know, plant some shit on you,
say that you're a terrorist, whatever it might be. And
that's one of the biggest intimidation factors used by people
like Jeffrey Epstein, according to pal Mary. Edwards responded and
I said, well, give me some examples. I mean, who
(02:50):
am I messing with? And that's when he looked across
the table and whispered three letters. See I A. And look,
I've been telling you folks for how long now that
that's the power behind this. And I don't think it's
like Langley, right, not the people in the offices that
sat down and were like, you know what, we're going
to run an operation and we're gonna have Jeffrey Epstein
(03:11):
be the man who is the functioning component of it.
I don't believe that happened. I think it's some kind
of black operation, you know, the same thing that they
were doing when they were bringing drugs into America. That
kind of shit. Something that's being run off the books,
and I think that's where Jeffrey Epstein came in at
first as a moneyman, right, a bundler. But once they
(03:32):
realized what they had his proclivities and the kind of
shit he was into, and once they knew that they knew,
they hit pay dirt and from there the operation bloomed. Zenoviev,
a Russian born UFC fighter, drove Epstein around for almost
five years during the height of the trafficking operation, and
(03:53):
he recalled. His first assignment in two thousand and eight,
during the criminal's brief detention thirteen months at the Palm
Beach County Jail with work release, was to visit the
CIA headquarters in Virginia. And this is very inconvenient to
the people that want to push the narrative that this
is a Masad operation. And just to be clear, like
I've said from the jump, nobody's absolving the Masad here,
(04:17):
but they're not the key component. And nobody's going to
gaslight me into believing that they are. The CIA set
the table, the CIA serve the meal. Now, the Masad
might have been at the dinner, but they're not the host.
According to Edwards, Zenoviev told them it was there. Epstein
would attend classes for a week as the only private
(04:39):
citizen in the room. At the end of the class,
someone handed them a book with a handwritten note inside.
Does any of this shock anybody or does anybody dispute this?
I certainly don't. This is exactly what we've heard from
jump Street, and Zenoviev's story has remain consistent from the
very beginning. Why would you lie special about the CIA?
(05:01):
What does he have to gain from that? Zenoviev was
told not to read it and to only deliver it
to Epstein behind bars. Everybody there knew who he was.
He's an important person, and I said, is he in
the CIA? Edward's recall from their conversation, Zenoviev replied, I
don't know. Look, he was not in the CIA. Jeffrey
(05:23):
Epstein was a free agent. This was a man that
was not behold into any flag or any state, and
he certainly wasn't loyal to any country. He was an
information broker, point blank, period. That's what he did. He
created these dossiers on powerful people, and then he kept
them as compromunt material. And if that dossier could be
(05:45):
useful to this government, or that Epstein would gladly step
in for a price. However, according to former CIA officer
John Seipher, the agency can't use Americans unless they volunteer information,
and theorized debs may have been a hyperfixer, someone with
connections who can get into anywhere, but added Epstein would
(06:06):
have been too risky to touch because of his background.
Oh well, a CIA officers telling us that he has
no skin in the game, huh, doesn't want to protect
the agency or whatever kind of operation they might be running.
These are the same people that denied that the CIA
was involved in bringing crack to America. If they say
(06:27):
there's no record, don't believe them, Seipher told the attorney.
In two thousand and eight, Epstein pleaded guilty to stay
charges of solicitation of prostitution and solicitation of prostitution with
a minor under the age of eighteen. He was given
a slap on the wrist and sentenced eighteen months in
a minimum security facility. Only did twelve, by the way,
(06:49):
and I don't even know if you can call it
serving jail time. Under the agreement, Epstein would be under
a work release arrangement in which he returned to the
jail to sleep at night. Imagine you're cousin Joe getting
the same kind of deal. Imagine anyone you know getting
that kind of deal. Only Jeffrey Epstein gets that kind
of deal. And don't say it's about the money. Did
(07:10):
he didn't get that deal. R Kelly didn't get that deal.
Young thug didn't get that deal, but Jeffrey Epstein did.
Oh and by the way, all those people I just mentioned,
they all got hit with Rico. Guess who didn't get
hit with Rico. That's right, our good friend egg Dick Epstein.
If Epstein was indeed working with the CIA, which is
(07:30):
former attorney Alan Dershowitz denied. The lawyer said he would
have gone to the government and said, you know, he's
an intelligence agent, don't prosecute him. Oh, I'm sure that
didn't happen in the back room, Alan, I kept my
underpants on. Dershowitz, don't you have somebody to sue over
a parogi? However, those were similar words Epstein told Edwards
(07:51):
during an alleged conversation in two thousand and eight, during
the same time Edwards was trying to overturn the Sweetheart deal.
I'm never going to be prosecuted. Epstein said, according toad words,
you know Trump was my friend, my close friend, and
you know Bill Barr is this boy. Oh we know
that Darth Barr is not exactly the arbiter of truth,
not exactly what I would call a reliable narrator. Huh.
(08:16):
So if I was somebody who had ties to Donald
Trump or Bill Barr and I was in trouble, I
think that they'd be coming through with the Homi hookup
as well. I mean, why not, Right, the President seventy
nine has done all he can to separate himself from Epstein,
using all types of distractions, telling the media to focus
on Bill Clinton and even blaming his loyal supporters for
(08:37):
pushing the story. And look, I agree we should be
looking at Bill Clinton. He had a lot to do
with Jeffrey Epstein, as I've said a million times. But
we can chew gum and walk at the same time.
And there's plenty of time to look at Trump, plenty
of time to look at Clinton, plenty of time to
look at Bill Gates, plenty of time to look at everybody.
The problem is that the administration and the DOJ said
(09:00):
they're not doing that anymore. And by doing that they
have opened this can of worms and the whole last
thing could have been avoided by just being transparent. They
didn't have to release everything at once, but give us
a you know, plan, a timeline on what's going on. Instead,
we got libs of TikTok DC, Draino, mister Presler and
(09:23):
the rest of the people with the white binders and
that stupid ass side show that they did at the
White House. So not only has there been a bunch
of mismanagement here, it's been misstep after mistep, and they
just keep doubling down. It's amazing to watch. You think,
with all the blowback, they'd be like, you know what,
we better reevaluate what we're doing here. We better take
(09:43):
a step back and try and figure out how to
get this information out in a way that's going to
be helpful to the public. But instead, what did he do?
Attack the supporters, called people, you know, all kinds of names,
the whole thing, And that might go over great with
the base, but what about everybody else? Because, like I've
said a million times now, President Trump didn't win the
(10:05):
election with just Mago alone. There was a lot of
independence that jump ship and voted for Donald Trump, and
a lot of those people voted for him because they
thought he was going to be transparent, They thought he
was gonna tell the truth when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
And now those folks feel like the old bait and
switch has been pulled on them and that they've been
lied to. And what could be such a gigantic secret
(10:28):
that they're willing to have this much turmoil in the administration. Well,
in my opinion, the world finding out that Jeffrey Epstein
was being run by the American government would certainly be
a secret that the government wants to keep, and in
my opinion, there is nothing that they won't do to
make sure that that occurs. And I think we're seeing
(10:49):
that play out right here in real time once again.
But as far as Jeffrey Epstein being a CIA asset,
I don't think there's any doubt. And while I don't
know if we're ever going to have a smoking gun,
I think there's plenty of circumstantial evidence that leads us
to that point. So, like usual, we're gonna continue swimming
through this muck looking for some clarity. As we continue
(11:11):
to peel the layers of the Jeffrey Epstein Onion back
one by one. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Ever since the Jeffrey Epstein fiasco began, people
have been asking questions about Jeffrey Epstein's so called ties
to the CIA. Now, a lot of the conversation around
Jeffrey Epstein's ties to the CIA has been washed out
(00:20):
recently by all these voices talking about the Masad angle.
And while the massades certainly out of place at the table,
they weren't the ones preparing the dish that was the CIA.
And Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to the CIA are very,
very apparent. And some people still want to act like
Epstein had nothing to do with intelligence, had nothing to
(00:42):
do with the CIA, and was just some kind of lone,
sick o predator. But that's not the case. And I
think that there is ample evidence out there to point
us in the direction at the very least that Jeffrey
Epstein was being run as an asset, and in my opinion,
his handlers weren't some foreign boogeymen. We have our own
(01:03):
scum bags right here in the good old USA who
wrote the book on how these operations are supposed to
go down. So today we have an article from Radar
Online and the headline Jeffrey Epstein boasted, I'm never going
to be prosecuted as former bodyguard claim sex predator was
protected by CIA and his close friend Trump. And this
(01:25):
is from Jeffrey Epstein's former bodyguard. This article was authored
by Ryan Brunetti. There may have been a major reason
Jeffrey Epstein continued to avoid the law and any sort
of harsh punishment. He was protected by the CIA, at
least that's what his former bodyguard claimed. RadarOnline dot Com
(01:46):
can reviewal and we've heard this from the bodyguard previously.
And this bodyguard was an ex UFC fighter and he
ended up becoming a bodyguard for Jeffrey Epstein. And he's
had some very interesting things to say every time he
talks about Jeffrey Epstein and what Jeffrey Epstein was up to.
Sonoviev said, you don't know who you're messing with, and
(02:07):
you need to be really careful. Edwards told Paul Mary
for her podcast series Broken Jeffrey Epstein. You were on
Jeffrey Epstein's radar and somebody that Jeffrey pays a lot
of attention to, which is not good. You don't want
to be on Jeffrey's radar. Well, yeah, if the dude's
a CIA, cutout last thing you want right, talk about
destroying your life. I mean, these people have a lot
(02:29):
of different ways that they can wreck you. Upload some
shit on your computer, you know, plant some shit on you,
say that you're a terrorist, whatever it might be. And
that's one of the biggest intimidation factors used by people
like Jeffrey Epstein, according to pal Mary. Edwards responded and
I said, well, give me some examples. I mean, who
(02:50):
am I messing with? And that's when he looked across
the table and whispered three letters. See I A. And look,
I've been telling you folks for how long now that
that's the power behind this. And I don't think it's
like Langley, right, not the people in the offices that
sat down and were like, you know what, we're going
to run an operation and we're gonna have Jeffrey Epstein
(03:11):
be the man who is the functioning component of it.
I don't believe that happened. I think it's some kind
of black operation, you know, the same thing that they
were doing when they were bringing drugs into America. That
kind of shit. Something that's being run off the books,
and I think that's where Jeffrey Epstein came in at
first as a moneyman, right, a bundler. But once they
(03:32):
realized what they had his proclivities and the kind of
shit he was into, and once they knew that they knew,
they hit pay dirt and from there the operation bloomed. Zenoviev,
a Russian born UFC fighter, drove Epstein around for almost
five years during the height of the trafficking operation, and
(03:53):
he recalled. His first assignment in two thousand and eight,
during the criminal's brief detention thirteen months at the Palm
Beach County Jail with work release, was to visit the
CIA headquarters in Virginia. And this is very inconvenient to
the people that want to push the narrative that this
is a Masad operation. And just to be clear, like
I've said from the jump, nobody's absolving the Masad here,
(04:17):
but they're not the key component. And nobody's going to
gaslight me into believing that they are. The CIA set
the table, the CIA serve the meal. Now, the Masad
might have been at the dinner, but they're not the host.
According to Edwards, Zenoviev told them it was there. Epstein
would attend classes for a week as the only private
(04:39):
citizen in the room. At the end of the class,
someone handed them a book with a handwritten note inside.
Does any of this shock anybody or does anybody dispute this?
I certainly don't. This is exactly what we've heard from
jump Street, and Zenoviev's story has remain consistent from the
very beginning. Why would you lie special about the CIA?
(05:01):
What does he have to gain from that? Zenoviev was
told not to read it and to only deliver it
to Epstein behind bars. Everybody there knew who he was.
He's an important person, and I said, is he in
the CIA? Edward's recall from their conversation, Zenoviev replied, I
don't know. Look, he was not in the CIA. Jeffrey
(05:23):
Epstein was a free agent. This was a man that
was not behold into any flag or any state, and
he certainly wasn't loyal to any country. He was an
information broker, point blank, period. That's what he did. He
created these dossiers on powerful people, and then he kept
them as compromunt material. And if that dossier could be
(05:45):
useful to this government, or that Epstein would gladly step
in for a price. However, according to former CIA officer
John Seipher, the agency can't use Americans unless they volunteer information,
and theorized debs may have been a hyperfixer, someone with
connections who can get into anywhere, but added Epstein would
(06:06):
have been too risky to touch because of his background.
Oh well, a CIA officers telling us that he has
no skin in the game, huh, doesn't want to protect
the agency or whatever kind of operation they might be running.
These are the same people that denied that the CIA
was involved in bringing crack to America. If they say
(06:27):
there's no record, don't believe them, Seipher told the attorney.
In two thousand and eight, Epstein pleaded guilty to stay
charges of solicitation of prostitution and solicitation of prostitution with
a minor under the age of eighteen. He was given
a slap on the wrist and sentenced eighteen months in
a minimum security facility. Only did twelve, by the way,
(06:49):
and I don't even know if you can call it
serving jail time. Under the agreement, Epstein would be under
a work release arrangement in which he returned to the
jail to sleep at night. Imagine you're cousin Joe getting
the same kind of deal. Imagine anyone you know getting
that kind of deal. Only Jeffrey Epstein gets that kind
of deal. And don't say it's about the money. Did
(07:10):
he didn't get that deal. R Kelly didn't get that deal.
Young thug didn't get that deal, but Jeffrey Epstein did.
Oh and by the way, all those people I just mentioned,
they all got hit with Rico. Guess who didn't get
hit with Rico. That's right, our good friend egg Dick Epstein.
If Epstein was indeed working with the CIA, which is
(07:30):
former attorney Alan Dershowitz denied. The lawyer said he would
have gone to the government and said, you know, he's
an intelligence agent, don't prosecute him. Oh, I'm sure that
didn't happen in the back room, Alan, I kept my
underpants on. Dershowitz, don't you have somebody to sue over
a parogi? However, those were similar words Epstein told Edwards
(07:51):
during an alleged conversation in two thousand and eight, during
the same time Edwards was trying to overturn the Sweetheart deal.
I'm never going to be prosecuted. Epstein said, according toad words,
you know Trump was my friend, my close friend, and
you know Bill Barr is this boy. Oh we know
that Darth Barr is not exactly the arbiter of truth,
not exactly what I would call a reliable narrator. Huh.
(08:16):
So if I was somebody who had ties to Donald
Trump or Bill Barr and I was in trouble, I
think that they'd be coming through with the Homi hookup
as well. I mean, why not, Right, the President seventy
nine has done all he can to separate himself from Epstein,
using all types of distractions, telling the media to focus
on Bill Clinton and even blaming his loyal supporters for
(08:37):
pushing the story. And look, I agree we should be
looking at Bill Clinton. He had a lot to do
with Jeffrey Epstein, as I've said a million times. But
we can chew gum and walk at the same time.
And there's plenty of time to look at Trump, plenty
of time to look at Clinton, plenty of time to
look at Bill Gates, plenty of time to look at everybody.
The problem is that the administration and the DOJ said
(09:00):
they're not doing that anymore. And by doing that they
have opened this can of worms and the whole last
thing could have been avoided by just being transparent. They
didn't have to release everything at once, but give us
a you know, plan, a timeline on what's going on. Instead,
we got libs of TikTok DC, Draino, mister Presler and
(09:23):
the rest of the people with the white binders and
that stupid ass side show that they did at the
White House. So not only has there been a bunch
of mismanagement here, it's been misstep after mistep, and they
just keep doubling down. It's amazing to watch. You think,
with all the blowback, they'd be like, you know what,
we better reevaluate what we're doing here. We better take
(09:43):
a step back and try and figure out how to
get this information out in a way that's going to
be helpful to the public. But instead, what did he do?
Attack the supporters, called people, you know, all kinds of names,
the whole thing, And that might go over great with
the base, but what about everybody else? Because, like I've
said a million times now, President Trump didn't win the
(10:05):
election with just Mago alone. There was a lot of
independence that jump ship and voted for Donald Trump, and
a lot of those people voted for him because they
thought he was going to be transparent, They thought he
was gonna tell the truth when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
And now those folks feel like the old bait and
switch has been pulled on them and that they've been
lied to. And what could be such a gigantic secret
(10:28):
that they're willing to have this much turmoil in the administration. Well,
in my opinion, the world finding out that Jeffrey Epstein
was being run by the American government would certainly be
a secret that the government wants to keep, and in
my opinion, there is nothing that they won't do to
make sure that that occurs. And I think we're seeing
(10:49):
that play out right here in real time once again.
But as far as Jeffrey Epstein being a CIA asset,
I don't think there's any doubt. And while I don't
know if we're ever going to have a smoking gun,
I think there's plenty of circumstantial evidence that leads us
to that point. So, like usual, we're gonna continue swimming
through this muck looking for some clarity. As we continue
(11:11):
to peel the layers of the Jeffrey Epstein Onion back
one by one. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.
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