May 23, 2025 • 58 mins
Is time a straight line marching from past to future, or is it a sacred cycle repeating through the ages? In this thought-provoking episode of Beyond the Paradigm, we dive deep into the mystery of time itself. We explore secular and scientific theories—from Newtonian physics to quantum mechanics—then travel back through history to examine ancient religious perspectives that viewed time as cyclical and deeply sacred. Finally, we turn to the Bible and the insights of great Protestant thinkers to ask: What does Scripture reveal about the nature of time? Join me as I challenge our assumptions and consider whether time is not just a concept, but a profound key to understanding reality itself.
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topic on the podcast is something I've mentioned previously, where
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I've talked about time and I've said how it's our
most precious commodity, and we sell our time when we
go to work, don't we. That's what we're actually doing
when we're going to work and earning money, We're actually
selling our time. So what I wanted to do today,
I wanted to look at what time is, going to
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look at what the secular and other religions think about time,
the thoughts regarding time, and then we're going to look
at the Biblical perspective, what the Bible has to say
about time. Explored many ideas on this podcast theories mysteries
that challenge our perception of reality, and the topic today
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is going to truly bend your mind. It bends my
mind thinking about it. So what if everything you know
about time, that it flows like a river from past
through the present into the future is actually an illusion?
What if time doesn't move at all? So today, like
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I said, we're going to take a bit of a
deep dive into one of the most provocative ideas in
both science and spiritual or religion that time is nonlinear.
The past, present, and future may all exist simultaneously, and
we might be slipping between alternate versions of reality without
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even realizing it. Now, like I said, this first part,
I'm going to be looking at what secular and other
religions are saying about time. And I'm not saying that
these ideas I subscribe to. I'm just going to go
through them. And then I'm going to look at biblical
sort of descriptions of what time is and how we
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should think of time, and also bring up some of
the great Protestant thinkers and what they've said about time.
So let's start with the basics. We all experience time
with age. We remember we anticipate, but we rarely start
to ask what is time now? Physicists define time as
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a dimension like space, and Einstein showed people that time
isn't fixed. He said that time is relative. The faster
you move, the slower time passes for you, and near
a black hole, time apparently practically stops. So if time
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can stretch, shrink, bend, is it even real in the
way we think it's real. Some physicists believe in a
concept called block universe, also known as eternalism, and this
theory suggests that past, present, and future are all equally real,
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and they all exist right now that we are just
experiencing one slice of it at a time, like watching
a movie frame by frame, but the full real exists already.
And they have've had a guest on here before stand Out,
So we sort of talked a little bit about time,
and he mentioned that this is what it's like for God,
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there's this movie frame by frame. He has the whole frame,
and he can select a frame at a time, and
that's how he can come in and out and how
prophecies come true. That's sort of his description. But I
won't go too much into that, like I said, because
second part. We're going to look at the Biblical view
of time. Now, nonlinear time isn't just science fiction. Apparently
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it's got deep routes in both physics and mysticism, and
in quantum mechanics, particles seem to exist in multiple states
until observe. Now, quantum mechanics is one of them topics
that not even people who study it, who were professors,
had it understanding. It's absolutely mind blowing. I would recommend
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looking into it a little bit. It is interesting, but
it is mind blowing. And so the particles have said
exist in multiple states until observed, and that observation can
affect not only their present state, but potentially their past,
a concept which is called retro causality, and something scientists
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like Dr Jack so Fattists suggest that information can travel
backwards in time. Now, on the spiritual side of things,
Eastern traditions like Hinduism, they see time as cyclical and
not linear, and the concept of the Yugurs massive cosmic
time cycles reflects a universe constantly in rhythm and not
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on a one way track. The Mayan calendar was not
just a tool for agriculture. It encoded a sophisticated spiral
in view of time tied to planetary consciousness. So science
and spirit are converging on the same strange idea that
time is not what it seems now. An episode that
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I've done on here is an episode on the Mandela effect.
And for those of you that don't know what the
Mandela effect is, it refers to a phenomena where large
groups of people remembering an event fact or detailed differently
than how it actually occurred. And it's named after Nelson
Mandela because many people, especially in the early two thousands,
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falsely remembered him dying in a South African prison during
the nineteen eighties, even though he was released and he
later became president and then died in twenty thirteen. The
key features are widespread misremembering, and these aren't just personal errors.
Millions of people share this same false memory. It contradicts
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documented reality, The memory doesn't align with official records, photographs,
or media, and there's unshakeable conviction because people are often
absolutely certain that their memory is correct even when presented
with the evidence. So the Mandela effect, thousands, like I said,
or maybe millions of people remembered this Nelson Mandela dining
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in prison in the nineteen eighties our time line. He
died in twenty thirteen. And there's many other strange examples,
including the behrenstein Bers, which many people which over it.
I don't even know what the behrenstein Bers is, but
many people don't remember it as berenstein Bers. They remember
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it as the barren Stain Birds, so spelt definitely, one
with an A and the other one with an E.
The monopoly Man, for example. Some people believe that he
wore a monocle, but he never actually wore a monocle. Apparently.
Another one popular one if you're a Star Wars fan,
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did doth Vader say to Luke Luke, I am your father? Well, no,
he didn't, because in the actual film he says to him, no,
I am your father. That scene in Empire Strikes Back
where he's cut Luke's arm off and he's hanging off
that like antenna type thing. A lot of people say
that he says Luke, I'm your father, but he doesn't.
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If you watch the film, he says, no, I'm your father. Now.
One of the ones that got me was Looney Tunes,
and I do remember it as being Looney Tunes to
ns and under Mandelo effects episode that I did. I
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talk about this, and I'm absolutely still convinced that that's
what it is. And I remember because I remember a
conversation that I had with my mum, and I said
to her, why are they called tunes? And she said,
it's because they are cartoons. But apparently they were never
called Looney Tunes. They were called Looney Tunes. And all
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the DVD sets that you can get now obviously all
say Looney Tunes. But there was I think it was
a film. It was either a film or a TV
series of The Flash, and there's a scene in that
where the television in the background actually had on Looney Tunes.
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The opening screen had Looney Tunes on it, and you
can search that up on Google. It's The Flash. It's
either the film or a series, but there's a scene
in it and there's this monitor or TV in the
background and it's got Looney Tunes on it. So, oh,
we're just misremembering things, or people are asking or suggesting,
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always slipping between timelines, and some theorists suggest we're navigating
a multiverse. A multiverse doesn't negate the existence of God.
Lets us put it that way, because if there is
a multiverse. I'm not saying there is, not saying there isn't.
I don't believe there is. But if there is, God
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created it anyway. So the suggesting that we're navigating this
multiverse and our consciousness might occasionally drift between parallel realities,
especially during heightened emotional or psychological states, and others have
tied this toncern, claiming high energy experiments may have nudged
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us into an alternate version of reality, and the Large
Hadron collider smashes protons together at unimaginable speeds, recreating conditions
fractions of a second after the Big Bang. That's what
they're claiming, and in doing so, scientists currently probing the
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very laws that govern space, matter, and time. The Higgs
Bollson porticle, which was discovered in twenty twelve, is a
key to why particles have mass, but is also linked
to how time flows. Now, with regards to cerning time,
there are speculative possibilities. Now CERN themselves don't claim to
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be manipulating time, but some physicists and theories suggest NOWCERN
themselves they don't claim to be manipulating time, but some
physicists and theorists suggest the experiments touch on time and
dimensional boundaries such as micro black holes. Hypothetically, the Large
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Hadron Collider collisions could create these, and some believe this
might allow for time distortion or dimensional leakage extra dimensions.
According to string theory, we may live in a multiverse
of higher dimensions, and SERN is testing aspects of these
models time reversal symmetry. Certain particle reactions might behave differently
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if time flowed backward, a concept SERN is actively researching.
In short, the LHC or CERN is trying to understand
the engine room of the universe, and time is part
of that engine. Now, some questions to ponder regarding CERN
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and the Hadron Collider would suggest are is the Large
Hadron Collider touching cosmic or spiritual forces that we don't
yet understand, and are we witnessing a technological tower of
Babel moment, a human attempt to reach beyond the veil.
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Ancient views of time long before Einstein concertain ancient cultures
had a radically different view of time than we have.
The Aboriginal Australians believe in dream time it's a timeless
state where all creation exists simultaneously. The Gnostics viewed time
as part of a material illusion, something we're meant to transcend.
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Emetic text dating back to ancient Egypt described time as
a reflection of mental perception and not a fixed reality.
So could it be that ancient mystics understood something that
we're only beginning to rediscover. And if time is an illusion,
what does that mean for us? What does that mean
for our destiny? For free will? For example, Hindus view
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time as a wheel, called it the Cala chakra, and
they believe time is cyclical and eternal, and it's a
never ending series of creation, preservation, and destruction. The universe
moves through yugurs or ages, Sacha yuga, golden age, chetta yuga,
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the vapara yuga, calor yuga, which they say is our
current age. It's a time of darkness and decline, and
these cycles repeat endlessly, suggesting time is more like a
spiral than a line. In Egyptian, Greek, and Norse mythology,
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the aurora bores a serpent eating its own tail symbolizes
infinite time and self renewal. Time is not an arrow,
but a circle of recurrence where the ends feedback into
the beginning. And the Chinese or Taois views of time.
They view it as a flow, that time is not
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something you control, it's something you flow with, like the Tao,
which is the way there's a natural order, seasonality of existence, birth, growth, decay, return,
and in the Book of Changes it reflects his dynamic
time system of flux, transformation, and recurrence in the Taoist universe,
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Trying to force time is like swimming upstream. So could
time be a river of probability and not a fixed sequence?
The Hebrews time was linear but convenental Inching Israel saw
time was progressive but not secular. Time moved awards, fulfilment,
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a series of covenants and promises, moving towards the divine climax.
The Hebrew word for time, mow ed, implies appointed seasons,
sacred God ordained moments, not random time ticking seconds. Time
in the Bible is tele illogical, goal orientated, but sacred.
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And obviously I'm going to touch on the Bible even
deeper later on into the show. So let's get a
little stranger, because it does get a bit strange when
you're looking at some of these secular and ancient views.
So throughout history people have reported dreams of the future,
visions of the past, outer body experiences that seem to
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transcend time. During the Cold War, the United States government
ran the classified program called Projects Stargate, using remote viewers
to spy on targets not just across space, but apparently
sometimes across time. Some have claimed to have seen events
days or weeks before they even occurred. Others describe past
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events in vivid detail that they possibly couldn't have known.
Lucid dreams, precognitive visions, near death experiences all seem to
operate outside of our usual timeline time travel. This is
an interesting one, and obviously with films like Back to
the Future, we all remember that classic films eighteen miles
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an hour in the Dolorean and he goes back to
different times, goes into the future. Brilliant films. But is
it possible. Well, it's often dismissed just as science fiction,
but increasing interest from scientists and governments suggest it's a
serious theoretical possibility. So obviously, Einstein said that time wasn't constant.
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According to his theory relativity, time is flexible. It dilates
near the speed of light or in extreme gravity. So
this opens the door to time slippage where someone might
experience time differently depending on their frame of reference. So
the implication is that time is obviously not fixed. That's
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what they're saying. So could some minds or technologies actually
move through time backwards or forwards? And there's other theoretical
models including wormholes, which are shortcuts in space time and
they could allow for forward or backward movement through time.
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Tipler cylinders, which are closed time like curves, and tachions
are all theoretical constructs that would permit temporal movement, though
they haven't been mastered. And I mentioned remote viewing, which
is the CIA Stargate program. Remote viewing is basically the
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practice of seeing distant or hidden targets using the mind alone,
and it was developed by the CIA, used by them
and the United States military Underproject Stargate in the nineteen
seventies to the nineteen nineties. And there's a thing called
time blind consciousness where remote viewers often reported seeing past, present,
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and future events, suggesting that the mind isn't bound by
linear time. Ingo Swan, one of the pioneers, claimed that
time was like a location that you could basically just
go there, like you go to another town or whatever
that you could go to this location. That's what he
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was saying. Now, the government in the United States acknowledge
this program, and the CIA declassified files admitting the effectiveness
of remote viewing in certain intelligence scenarios. Many sessions involved
describing future locations or distant events, plunging the notion of
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fixed and linear timeline. And incidentally, remote viewers were meant
to have remote viewed the nine to eleven attack, which
we all know was an inside job. In fact, it
was an inside and outside job, but remote viewers apparently
remote viewed this and they said that the Pentagon was
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hit by a missile fired from Israeli sub off the
coast of Delaware. Now, I don't know what you make
of that, but that's what the remote viewers were saying. Now,
dreams have long been considered gateways to the subconscious, but
what if they're actually also portals through time? So precognitive
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dreams the thousands of aneutdatal cases that exist where people
dreamed of future events, often in exact detail. There's famous
examples such as Abraham Lincoln dreamed of his own funeral
just days before his assassination, and multiple nine to eleven
victims claim to have seen visions or symbols of the
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attack in dreams beforehand time loops and symbolic codes. Some
dreams seem to reference events from the future encoded in
symbols or feelings. The dream state disconnects from the linear mind,
making it possible, perhaps to receive nonlinear data. And I
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mentioned obviously dream time. The aboriginal dream time suggests that
dreams are nonlinear. Is a nonlinear realm eternally coexistent with
physical time. Now, what about the role of consciousness in
nonlinear time? Consciousness as the time navigator. The emerging idea
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in the fringe of physics and metaphysics is that consciousness
might not just be in time. It might be what
navigates time. If time is a field like space, then
consciousness might be a kind of vehicle that moved through
that field. And entanglement and retrocausality talks about this a
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little bit. Quantum experiments have shown that particles can appear
to influence each other across time, even into the past.
Some theorists argue that intention, emotion, or thought could have
causal effects that ripple backwards or even sideways in time. So,
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with regards to the secular and other ancient views regarding time.
What are we left with? Well, if time is an illusion,
or at least it's not linear, what are the implications
of that? Well, our memories may not be anchored to
the real past. Our future might already exist, and perhaps
it's accessible. We might be living in multiple versions of
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our life lives simultaneously. What if visualizing the future is
actually tuning into a version that that already exists. What
if our choices create branching timelines and we can navigate
towards the one with desire. These are all questions that
would come up if you view time in the way
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that secular physicists, scientists, the ancient people's view time. But
what does the Bible say about time? Well, firstly, the
Bible presents time in multiple dimensions, linear in one sense,
but also eternal chirotic or divine timing, and nonlinear in
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certain visions and revelations. So God is outside of space
and time is not in time. Time is in God.
That's not just a theological platitude, it's deeply rooted in scripture.
So ninety verse four for a thousand years in thy
sight or else, but yesterday when it is passed, and
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as are watching the night to Peter chapter three, verse eight.
But Beloved, be not ignorant, as this one thing that
one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day. So these verses
are implying that God operates outside of linear time, perceiving
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all moments at once, much like the block universe theory.
So this isn't just poetic. It suggests God is not
subject to this arrow of time. That's what these scriptures suggest.
In fact, many theologians believe that God existing what we
might call a timeless now, were past, present, and future
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are simultaneously all present before God. And like I mentioned,
it's like in Australia way mirrors the block universe theory
and physics, where every moment in time coexists and we
simply experience it sequentially. So the Bible states that time
is created. That's clear from Genesis one. Time begins with
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creation evening and morning the first day. God is eternal,
but time is part of creation, suggesting that time is
not fundamental to reality itself. The Bible talks about eternity
and timelessness Ecclesiastes, chapter three, verse eleven says He have
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made everything beautiful in his time. Also he has set
the world, and that word world translated there as world
is actually eternity, so it should read also he has
set eternity in their heart, so that no man can
find out the work that God make from the beginning
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to the end. So even us humans are bound by time,
we have this deep intuition of the eternal, which implies
a yearning to break beyond temporal limits. Now, the New
Testament uses two Greek words for time, kronos, which is
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chronological or sequential time, or chiros appointed or divine time.
So Ephesians chapter five, verse sixteen talks about redeeming the
time because the days are evil, and it's actually redeeming
the chiros so appointed or divine time because the days
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are evil, which suggests that certain moments carry more spiritual weight,
that time isn't always equal. The Book of Revelation portrays
time in a strange nonlinear way or weighs visions of
the end, the present, and even eden seem to overlap.
What does the Lord say? He says this in Revelation
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chapter one and verse eight. I am the Alpha and
the Omega the beginning and the ending, save the load,
which is and which was, and which is to come
the almighty. So apocalyptic time and vision the end, let's
say that has already happened. So what is apocalyptic time? Now?
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Apocalyptic doesn't just mean catastrophic destruction. It comes from the
Greek word apocalypsis, which means basically an unveiling or a revealing,
and apocalyptic time is not chronological. It's revelatory, and it's
often breaking into the present with visions of the end,
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judgment and new order, the collapse of timelines into a singular,
divine moment. And these visions don't function according to the
ordinary course on effect. In apocalyptic consciousness, past, present and
future fold into one another. So time as near and delayed.
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Revelation one, verse three, the time is at hand, But
two Peter three, verse eight, be not ignorant of this
one thing, that one day is with the Lord as
a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
So this duality or urgency and delay suggests that God's
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time operates on a different frequency. Apocalyptic time compresses epochs
into moments and stretches seconds into eternities. The revisions that
defy time. John says, I was in the spirit on
the Lord's Day and heard behind me a great voice.
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That's Revelation one, verse ten. And Johnny's then pulled out
a normal time, and in his vision he sees events
that have already occurred, for example, the fall of Satan
that are actually happening in his time, the persecution of
the Church, and then things that will occur, the Final Judgment,
the new Heaven and Earth. And it's not linear. The
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prophecy is not linear. It's cosmic simultanety. So there's a
collapse of linear time in the Book of Revelation. It's
a time bending document. Really says that the Lamb was
slain from the foundation of the world Revelation thirteen, verse eight.
So that's a paradox because Christ's crucifixion happens in history,
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yet it's also eternal. The Final Judgment happens in context
where death and health are personified and cast away. Time
itself ends and eternity begins. So time in the apocalyptic
sense is not destroyed, it's transcended. Some Puritan thinkers so
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time as a fleeting preparation for eternity. John Flavel said
time is God's loan not man's possession. Every moment is
precious because it slides away. John Owynn taught that defined
decrees a timeless meaning. God's purposes are already complete, though
unfolding in human time. And Dr Martin Lloyd Jones he said,
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well he viewed apocalyptic texts has not purely future orientated,
but meant to shape how believers perceived the present. The
end has broken into history, he said, in the person
of Christ, and we live in the last days already.
What about non Christian and esoteric apocalyptic time well, Gnostic texts,
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for example, the Apocalypse of Adam suggests time is a
trap created by the demiurge. True revelation free the soul
from linear bondage emetic and alchemical time. The end is
a return alchemists sought the prima materia, the beginning hidden
in the end, Time loops back to the source. Mayan
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Time Revisited twenty twelve was not seen as the end
of time, but a dimensional reset, the shift from one
cycle of perception to another. Now apocalyptic visions as time travel.
Apocalyptic vision is often report being caught up in the
spirit seems symbols that unfold events outside of human history
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receiving knowledge of alternate futures or interventions. And this mirrors
remote viewing, psychedelic time distortions and dream revelations. And the
implication is that apocalyptic profits is like the like time
travelers of consciousness accessing timelines, we can't see through our
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five senses. So the end that was is and will
be apocalyptic time breaks the illusion of progress and permanence.
It shows that we may already be living in the
end times in some sense, that time is not sequential,
but layered with revelation, that visionary experience often reveals multiple
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simultaneous timelines, not just a singular, unfolding future. So what
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did the great Protestant thinkers say about time? Well, Martin Luther,
the great German reformer. Luther didn't philosophize deeply on time itself,
but he emphasized that God's grace breaks into human time
at chirotic moments. He viewed history as linear but punctuated
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by divine intervention culminating in the Cross and Christ's return.
He said, we are beggars. This is true. His final
words are reminder that human time is finite, but grace
is not. John Calvin Calvin emphasized God's sovereignty over time
and history in his institutes. He wrote that time is
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governed by divine providence and all moments are under God's will.
There are no accidents in time. God so regulates all things.
He said, nothing takes place without his deliberation. That's very
important to remember. So when you look at this chaotic
world and these lunatics that are in charge or think
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they're in charge, just remember that God is sovereign and
everything is governed by his divine providence. Calvin believed in predestination,
which implies a nonlinear of you of time from God's perspective,
that all outcomes are foreknn and foreordained. And it wouldn't
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be God if he didn't know these things. If God
didn't foreknow all things, it wouldn't be God. It's just
that simple. But God's is God. Therefore he does for
no and foreordain all things. What about Jonathan Edwards, probably
the greatest thinker to come out of the United States,
And if you read Jonathan Edwards's books, they will take
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you some serious time to read them. The heavy duty,
the real really deep. But this is what Edward said.
He spoke of time in the context of eternity and
human finitude, and in his sermons like the Preciousness of Time,
he urged people to live with eternity in mind, suggesting
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time is fleeting and sacred. He said time is a
thing that is exceedingly precious, and he also wrote about
God's timeless nature. God's knowledge is without succession. He beholds
all things at once.
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That's what he said.
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Called both in church dogmatics, both describe God's time as
eternal and distinct from human time. He coined the term
divine temporality, which is a mysterious state where God engages
with human history while remaining outside of time, and that
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God has this basically his own time, his own form
of time, but he chooses to enter our time through
the person of Christ. So in this view, Christ becomes
the hinge point of history, the moment were eternity and
time touch were nonlinear and linear converge. So for Boar,
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if Jesus Christ is the intersection of eternity and time,
the ultimate Chiros moment. What about C. S. Lewis a
more recent thinker. I wouldn't agree with a lot of
Lewis's theological points, but as a thinker. He says some
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good things. And obviously I've done the episode with Gary
Wayne where we talk about J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S.
Lewis was friends with Tolkien. Lewis was supposedly a Christian.
I don't know the man's heart, but I'm gonna quote
him anyway, because he does say some good things. There
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is people out there who aren't Christians who say some
good things, say some interesting things, and some important things.
So Lewis often used metaphor to describe time. He said
that if you picture time as a straight line along
which we travel, then you must picture God as the
whole page on which the line is drawn. He said
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that in a book called Mere Christianity, and he suggested
God experiences all moments simultaneously, but interacts with us in
linear time, again echoing the block universe concept. In The
Great Divorce and The Perilandra, Lewis explores nonlinear time, timeless states,
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and even alternate timelines from a Christian lens. What about
Augustine of Hippo Though the pre Reformation, his influence on
Protestant thought is immense, particularly through his magnum Opus confessions.
Augustine famously wrestled with the nature of time, posing the
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question what then is time? If no one asks me,
I know, If I wish to explain it to one
who asks, I do not know. He concluded that time
is a distension of the soul, arguing that past, present,
and future exists primarily in the mind. The past is
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a memory, the future is expectation, and the present is attention.
For Augustine, time is not a thing, but rather a
measure of change. He also emphasized God's eternal nature, existing
outside of time and creating time with the universe. John Flavell,
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an author I would recommend he a, was a Puritan
preacher and he was known for his rich devotional writings.
He said that time is a talent committed to our trust,
and as such must be improved, and that was in
keeping the heart and flavul worn that time is not neutral,
it is God given stewardship and wasting it is spiritual neglect.
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He taught at the final Judgment, every moment would be
accounted for, especially time spent idle or in sin, and
he said that the shortness of time should quicken us
in duty and deter us from sin. And if we're
honest with ourselves. We all waste time and have probably
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wasted most of our lives. And that goes for me certainly.
What did John Owen say? Another great thinker, theologian of
great depth and insight, especially on spiritual matters. Owen emphasize
that eternity, not time, should shape the believer's perspective. He
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saw that life on earth as a preparation for eternity,
where the soul must be made fit for eternal communion
with God. He said, let us look on things here
below as passing away, and mind eternity above all. And
he warned that time could numb the saul if lived
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without constant reference to eternity. And that's one thing that
can happen in this day and age so easily. There's
so many things bonboarding is at the moment, and if
you sat there watching a television or listening to a radio,
they are going to numb your soul. They're not great
spiritual activities at all. And I would suggest don't watch
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the telly or watch very very little telly, spend more
time in prayer, meditation and reading the Bible. And I'm
talking to myself as well now as well as everybody else.
What about Dr Martin Lloyd Jones. I've listened to Dr
Martin Lloyd Jones on Spotify. You can get the guy's
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sermons on there. He died in nineteen eighty one. He
was from Wales, but he preached the Westminster Chapel in London,
and I would recommend getting his books. I would recommend
listening to his sermons. And he's one of the greatest
preachers of the twentieth century and he's deeply influential in
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the reform circles. What did he have to say about time, Well,
he said time is always a very vital factor in
the whole of our life and living. It is the
most irretrievable thing of all. Now, Lloyd Johns often preached
about the urgency of the gospel rooted in the brevity
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of life, and he believed that Satan's greatest strategy was
to convince people that they had plenty of time, and
he does that. A lot of people talk about when
they're going to retire, what they're going to do when
they retire. They might not get to retirement age. I
was looking the other day on chat GPT quickly just
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wanted to know the average sort of age of death
in the United Kingdom because people talk about middle age
and this is going to shock you now, but a
lot of people say, well, middle age, it's like when
you get to fifty. Well, no, it isn't. In the UK,
middle age for men is thirty nine and for women
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it's forty one. So I am past middle age because
I'm forty six next month. And why is that middle age?
Because the average age of death for men is seventy eight.
It's seventy eight point six and for women it is
eighty two zero point one. So that's the average age
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of death. Now, obviously some people live longer than that,
some people live a lot less than that, but that's
the average. So if you think you're not middle aged
yet because you've not hit the age of fifty and
you live in the UK, and obviously around the world
they're going to be very similar to the United States, Canada, Australia, wherever,
they're going to be a similar sort of average age,
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maybe slightly less. And obviously that was for the whole
of the United Kingdom, so all the countries in the
UK and all the areas everything incorporated, and there's going
to be areas where, for example, I know for a fact,
where I'm originally from the northwest of England, I'm pretty
certain it's lower than seventy eight the average age, and
I believe the northeast of England's lower. Again, so we
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don't have plenty of time. None of us have plenty
of time. And Lloyd John said the greatest folly of
all is to postpone dealing with the soul. He rejected
the idea as history being cyclical, and he asserted that
time is linear and headed towards a final divine consummation.
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So the Bible and Protestant tradition teachers that time is created,
it's not eternal. God is not bound by time, that
some moments are more than just moments, the divine intersections,
and we finite beings, carry with us this longing for eternity,
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as it talks about in Ecclesiastes, chapter three and verse eleven.
So maybe that strange sense that time isn't what it seems,
the feelings that we've been here before, that dreams carry truth,
that moments repeat, maybe it's not an illusion, Maybe it's
a memory. Who knows. The Bible portrays time as a
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valuable resource given by God, urging wise use and awareness
of its limitations. It emphasizes the importance of making the
most of each moment and recognizing that time is fleeting.
The Old Testament views time as prophetic, pointing towards the
future kingdom of heaven, while the New Testament sees it
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as apocalyptic, with the kingdom already initiated but not fully
realized until the end. Time's a gift. The Bibles suggests
that time is a gift from God given to all
people to steward for his glory, so it's important to
make the best use of time. Ephesians talks about walking carefully,
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not as the unwise, but the wise, making the best
use of time obviously because the days are evil and
paraphrasing now, this means being mindful and intentional with how
we spend our time. We've got to be aware of
the time and its limitations. So obviously the brevity of
human life urging us to be a word of all
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limited time and use it wisely. That's what Psalm thirty nine,
verses five to six does. Times a season talks about
a time for everything in Ecclesiastic time to die, time
to live, time to laugh. All these things a season
for every activity under the heaven, highlighting the cyclical nature
of life and the importance of recognizing the appropriate time
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for different actions. Odd timing. The Bible also emphasizes that
God has his own timing and that certain events may
not be revealed to humans until his chosen time. And
we know that. So we've journeyed through secular physics, philosophical debates,
cyclical and linear religious views, delved into biblical truths and
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Protestant thought. What are the practical takeaways from this episode
which hopefully have enjoyed. Whether you lean towards a purely
scientific understanding or a deeply spiritual one, the concept of
time forces us to confront or finitune. We are mortal
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beings in a temporal world, and this reality can be daunting,
but it's also incredibly motivating. From a secular viewpoint, understanding
the relativity of time can encourage us to appreciate the
present moment, recognizing its unique, fleeting nature. It might inspire
us to make the most of all limited time on
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this planet, pursuing knowledge, experiencing joy, and contributing to the
betterment of society. From a biblical and Protestant perspective, the
implications are even more profound. If time is a gift
from God, which I believe it is, and the Bible
teaches that it's a stage for his redemptive plan, then
how we spend our time becomes a matter of spiritual significance,
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of eternal spiritual significance. It's about stewardship not just of resources,
but of the very moment of our lives. This means
living intentionally, pursuing what truly matters, and aligning our actions
with God's purposes. It means recognizing the chiros moments in
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our own lives, those opportunities for growth, service, and spiritual deepening.
It means understanding that while our days are numbered, our
impact can echo in eternity, so that one conversation you
may have had years ago with someone about the Lord
or attract you may have given them, don't underestimate that,
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because the impact can echo all the way through eternity. Now,
the Protestant emphasis on the priesthood of all believers and
the calling to serve God in our everyday lives means
that even mundane tasks can be imbued with eternal significance
when done for God's glory. For example, when you're at work,
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do it to God's glory. You might not even like
your job. I'm fortunate I have a job that I enjoy.
But some people go to work and they don't enjoy
the job. They might not be doing it well. Well,
that's a poor witness. What I would say is do
your job well, do it to the glory of God,
because it matters. Every tick of the clock is an
opportunity to respond to God's grace and live out our
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faith in this world. So I'm going to bring this
to a conclusion. Now we've had this discussion on time.
I've talked about time from different perspectives, and what we
need to remember is that it's both a mystery and
it's a gift. It defines our existence yet transcends our
full comprehension. So, whether you ponder its physical properties or
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its spiritual dimensions, take a moment to consider how you
are inhabiting your time or you living purposefully. Are you
appreciating the present or you're preparing for what lies beyond?
The clock does continue to tick. With each tick, we
are giving another precious opportunity to live, to learn, to love,
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and to grow Hopefully this has been helpful for you guys.
Hopefully this will make you think about how you are
spending your time. It certainly made me think about how
I'm spending my time. And I'm hoping that the time
I've spent over the last two years doing this podcast
will echo into eternity, that there will be people through
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some of the strange things we've talked about over the
two years that have been brought in by listening to
these strange things, have been exposed then to the Gospel.
Because that's the prayer of my heart that people are
exposed to the Gospel when listening to this podcast. And
I do that at every opportunity that I can do.
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And I'm thankful to God for this platform and that
moment in time two years ago when I was pondering
whether to start a podcast, and then I just started it.
It's led up to this point now we're one hundred
and five episodes in. There were thousands of people listen
every single week. So if there's something you're thinking of doing,
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whether it's starting a podcast or writing a book, just
start doing it because you never know what the implications
are going to be in the future, and you don't
know what implications are going to be for eternity. We
can do things and do do things that have a
ripple effect into the future of our lives, which can
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affect many people, not just including ourselves, and it can
be bad things, can it. But we can also do
things now for the glory of God that will have
these implications and ripple right through into eternity. And I
hope that if I've just reached one person in my
entire life, my life would have been worth living. So
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remember God sees the beginning from the end. When we
see all these things like it's looking like they're going
to be bringing in digital ideas and digital currencies to controllers,
and they've got this climate agenda, and we see the
rise of is life throughout the West, and this LGBTQ
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movement seems to be growing and growing and growing, and
millions of babies are being aborted, and they're trying to
bringing Euphinasia into all these countries. Just remember that God
has the beginning and the ending in front of him,
and he's sovereign, And the Bible tells you the end
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the end of all these things, that Christ will return
and there will be final judgment, there will be real justice.
People talk about justice, you don't really want justice in
this life because if you get justice, each one of
us will be sent to hell. What we need in
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this life is mercy and grace. But in the next
life there will be final justice. So that's it for
me today, Guys, god willing. I will be back next
week with a new topic, hopefully another top picked us
helpful to you and and also interesting. So as usual, guys,
I'm Paul, and this is beyond the paradigm.
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I do post, like I said, short videos, sometimes six seven, eight,
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I've talked about time and I've said how it's our
most precious commodity, and we sell our time when we
go to work, don't we. That's what we're actually doing
when we're going to work and earning money, We're actually
selling our time. So what I wanted to do today,
I wanted to look at what time is, going to
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look at what the secular and other religions think about time,
the thoughts regarding time, and then we're going to look
at the Biblical perspective, what the Bible has to say
about time. Explored many ideas on this podcast theories mysteries
that challenge our perception of reality, and the topic today
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is going to truly bend your mind. It bends my
mind thinking about it. So what if everything you know
about time, that it flows like a river from past
through the present into the future is actually an illusion?
What if time doesn't move at all? So today, like
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I said, we're going to take a bit of a
deep dive into one of the most provocative ideas in
both science and spiritual or religion that time is nonlinear.
The past, present, and future may all exist simultaneously, and
we might be slipping between alternate versions of reality without
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even realizing it. Now, like I said, this first part,
I'm going to be looking at what secular and other
religions are saying about time. And I'm not saying that
these ideas I subscribe to. I'm just going to go
through them. And then I'm going to look at biblical
sort of descriptions of what time is and how we
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should think of time, and also bring up some of
the great Protestant thinkers and what they've said about time.
So let's start with the basics. We all experience time
with age. We remember we anticipate, but we rarely start
to ask what is time now? Physicists define time as
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a dimension like space, and Einstein showed people that time
isn't fixed. He said that time is relative. The faster
you move, the slower time passes for you, and near
a black hole, time apparently practically stops. So if time
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can stretch, shrink, bend, is it even real in the
way we think it's real. Some physicists believe in a
concept called block universe, also known as eternalism, and this
theory suggests that past, present, and future are all equally real,
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and they all exist right now that we are just
experiencing one slice of it at a time, like watching
a movie frame by frame, but the full real exists already.
And they have've had a guest on here before stand Out,
So we sort of talked a little bit about time,
and he mentioned that this is what it's like for God,
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there's this movie frame by frame. He has the whole frame,
and he can select a frame at a time, and
that's how he can come in and out and how
prophecies come true. That's sort of his description. But I
won't go too much into that, like I said, because
second part. We're going to look at the Biblical view
of time. Now, nonlinear time isn't just science fiction. Apparently
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it's got deep routes in both physics and mysticism, and
in quantum mechanics, particles seem to exist in multiple states
until observe. Now, quantum mechanics is one of them topics
that not even people who study it, who were professors,
had it understanding. It's absolutely mind blowing. I would recommend
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looking into it a little bit. It is interesting, but
it is mind blowing. And so the particles have said
exist in multiple states until observed, and that observation can
affect not only their present state, but potentially their past,
a concept which is called retro causality, and something scientists
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like Dr Jack so Fattists suggest that information can travel
backwards in time. Now, on the spiritual side of things,
Eastern traditions like Hinduism, they see time as cyclical and
not linear, and the concept of the Yugurs massive cosmic
time cycles reflects a universe constantly in rhythm and not
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on a one way track. The Mayan calendar was not
just a tool for agriculture. It encoded a sophisticated spiral
in view of time tied to planetary consciousness. So science
and spirit are converging on the same strange idea that
time is not what it seems now. An episode that
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I've done on here is an episode on the Mandela effect.
And for those of you that don't know what the
Mandela effect is, it refers to a phenomena where large
groups of people remembering an event fact or detailed differently
than how it actually occurred. And it's named after Nelson
Mandela because many people, especially in the early two thousands,
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falsely remembered him dying in a South African prison during
the nineteen eighties, even though he was released and he
later became president and then died in twenty thirteen. The
key features are widespread misremembering, and these aren't just personal errors.
Millions of people share this same false memory. It contradicts
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documented reality, The memory doesn't align with official records, photographs,
or media, and there's unshakeable conviction because people are often
absolutely certain that their memory is correct even when presented
with the evidence. So the Mandela effect, thousands, like I said,
or maybe millions of people remembered this Nelson Mandela dining
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in prison in the nineteen eighties our time line. He
died in twenty thirteen. And there's many other strange examples,
including the behrenstein Bers, which many people which over it.
I don't even know what the behrenstein Bers is, but
many people don't remember it as berenstein Bers. They remember
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it as the barren Stain Birds, so spelt definitely, one
with an A and the other one with an E.
The monopoly Man, for example. Some people believe that he
wore a monocle, but he never actually wore a monocle. Apparently.
Another one popular one if you're a Star Wars fan,
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did doth Vader say to Luke Luke, I am your father? Well, no,
he didn't, because in the actual film he says to him, no,
I am your father. That scene in Empire Strikes Back
where he's cut Luke's arm off and he's hanging off
that like antenna type thing. A lot of people say
that he says Luke, I'm your father, but he doesn't.
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If you watch the film, he says, no, I'm your father. Now.
One of the ones that got me was Looney Tunes,
and I do remember it as being Looney Tunes to
ns and under Mandelo effects episode that I did. I
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talk about this, and I'm absolutely still convinced that that's
what it is. And I remember because I remember a
conversation that I had with my mum, and I said
to her, why are they called tunes? And she said,
it's because they are cartoons. But apparently they were never
called Looney Tunes. They were called Looney Tunes. And all
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the DVD sets that you can get now obviously all
say Looney Tunes. But there was I think it was
a film. It was either a film or a TV
series of The Flash, and there's a scene in that
where the television in the background actually had on Looney Tunes.
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The opening screen had Looney Tunes on it, and you
can search that up on Google. It's The Flash. It's
either the film or a series, but there's a scene
in it and there's this monitor or TV in the
background and it's got Looney Tunes on it. So, oh,
we're just misremembering things, or people are asking or suggesting,
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always slipping between timelines, and some theorists suggest we're navigating
a multiverse. A multiverse doesn't negate the existence of God.
Lets us put it that way, because if there is
a multiverse. I'm not saying there is, not saying there isn't.
I don't believe there is. But if there is, God
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created it anyway. So the suggesting that we're navigating this
multiverse and our consciousness might occasionally drift between parallel realities,
especially during heightened emotional or psychological states, and others have
tied this toncern, claiming high energy experiments may have nudged
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us into an alternate version of reality, and the Large
Hadron collider smashes protons together at unimaginable speeds, recreating conditions
fractions of a second after the Big Bang. That's what
they're claiming, and in doing so, scientists currently probing the
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very laws that govern space, matter, and time. The Higgs
Bollson porticle, which was discovered in twenty twelve, is a
key to why particles have mass, but is also linked
to how time flows. Now, with regards to cerning time,
there are speculative possibilities. Now CERN themselves don't claim to
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be manipulating time, but some physicists and theories suggest NOWCERN
themselves they don't claim to be manipulating time, but some
physicists and theorists suggest the experiments touch on time and
dimensional boundaries such as micro black holes. Hypothetically, the Large
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Hadron Collider collisions could create these, and some believe this
might allow for time distortion or dimensional leakage extra dimensions.
According to string theory, we may live in a multiverse
of higher dimensions, and SERN is testing aspects of these
models time reversal symmetry. Certain particle reactions might behave differently
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if time flowed backward, a concept SERN is actively researching.
In short, the LHC or CERN is trying to understand
the engine room of the universe, and time is part
of that engine. Now, some questions to ponder regarding CERN
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and the Hadron Collider would suggest are is the Large
Hadron Collider touching cosmic or spiritual forces that we don't
yet understand, and are we witnessing a technological tower of
Babel moment, a human attempt to reach beyond the veil.
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Ancient views of time long before Einstein concertain ancient cultures
had a radically different view of time than we have.
The Aboriginal Australians believe in dream time it's a timeless
state where all creation exists simultaneously. The Gnostics viewed time
as part of a material illusion, something we're meant to transcend.
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Emetic text dating back to ancient Egypt described time as
a reflection of mental perception and not a fixed reality.
So could it be that ancient mystics understood something that
we're only beginning to rediscover. And if time is an illusion,
what does that mean for us? What does that mean
for our destiny? For free will? For example, Hindus view
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time as a wheel, called it the Cala chakra, and
they believe time is cyclical and eternal, and it's a
never ending series of creation, preservation, and destruction. The universe
moves through yugurs or ages, Sacha yuga, golden age, chetta yuga,
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the vapara yuga, calor yuga, which they say is our
current age. It's a time of darkness and decline, and
these cycles repeat endlessly, suggesting time is more like a
spiral than a line. In Egyptian, Greek, and Norse mythology,
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the aurora bores a serpent eating its own tail symbolizes
infinite time and self renewal. Time is not an arrow,
but a circle of recurrence where the ends feedback into
the beginning. And the Chinese or Taois views of time.
They view it as a flow, that time is not
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something you control, it's something you flow with, like the Tao,
which is the way there's a natural order, seasonality of existence, birth, growth, decay, return,
and in the Book of Changes it reflects his dynamic
time system of flux, transformation, and recurrence in the Taoist universe,
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Trying to force time is like swimming upstream. So could
time be a river of probability and not a fixed sequence?
The Hebrews time was linear but convenental Inching Israel saw
time was progressive but not secular. Time moved awards, fulfilment,
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a series of covenants and promises, moving towards the divine climax.
The Hebrew word for time, mow ed, implies appointed seasons,
sacred God ordained moments, not random time ticking seconds. Time
in the Bible is tele illogical, goal orientated, but sacred.
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And obviously I'm going to touch on the Bible even
deeper later on into the show. So let's get a
little stranger, because it does get a bit strange when
you're looking at some of these secular and ancient views.
So throughout history people have reported dreams of the future,
visions of the past, outer body experiences that seem to
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transcend time. During the Cold War, the United States government
ran the classified program called Projects Stargate, using remote viewers
to spy on targets not just across space, but apparently
sometimes across time. Some have claimed to have seen events
days or weeks before they even occurred. Others describe past
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events in vivid detail that they possibly couldn't have known.
Lucid dreams, precognitive visions, near death experiences all seem to
operate outside of our usual timeline time travel. This is
an interesting one, and obviously with films like Back to
the Future, we all remember that classic films eighteen miles
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an hour in the Dolorean and he goes back to
different times, goes into the future. Brilliant films. But is
it possible. Well, it's often dismissed just as science fiction,
but increasing interest from scientists and governments suggest it's a
serious theoretical possibility. So obviously, Einstein said that time wasn't constant.
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According to his theory relativity, time is flexible. It dilates
near the speed of light or in extreme gravity. So
this opens the door to time slippage where someone might
experience time differently depending on their frame of reference. So
the implication is that time is obviously not fixed. That's
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what they're saying. So could some minds or technologies actually
move through time backwards or forwards? And there's other theoretical
models including wormholes, which are shortcuts in space time and
they could allow for forward or backward movement through time.
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Tipler cylinders, which are closed time like curves, and tachions
are all theoretical constructs that would permit temporal movement, though
they haven't been mastered. And I mentioned remote viewing, which
is the CIA Stargate program. Remote viewing is basically the
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practice of seeing distant or hidden targets using the mind alone,
and it was developed by the CIA, used by them
and the United States military Underproject Stargate in the nineteen
seventies to the nineteen nineties. And there's a thing called
time blind consciousness where remote viewers often reported seeing past, present,
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and future events, suggesting that the mind isn't bound by
linear time. Ingo Swan, one of the pioneers, claimed that
time was like a location that you could basically just
go there, like you go to another town or whatever
that you could go to this location. That's what he
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was saying. Now, the government in the United States acknowledge
this program, and the CIA declassified files admitting the effectiveness
of remote viewing in certain intelligence scenarios. Many sessions involved
describing future locations or distant events, plunging the notion of
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fixed and linear timeline. And incidentally, remote viewers were meant
to have remote viewed the nine to eleven attack, which
we all know was an inside job. In fact, it
was an inside and outside job, but remote viewers apparently
remote viewed this and they said that the Pentagon was
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hit by a missile fired from Israeli sub off the
coast of Delaware. Now, I don't know what you make
of that, but that's what the remote viewers were saying. Now,
dreams have long been considered gateways to the subconscious, but
what if they're actually also portals through time? So precognitive
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dreams the thousands of aneutdatal cases that exist where people
dreamed of future events, often in exact detail. There's famous
examples such as Abraham Lincoln dreamed of his own funeral
just days before his assassination, and multiple nine to eleven
victims claim to have seen visions or symbols of the
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attack in dreams beforehand time loops and symbolic codes. Some
dreams seem to reference events from the future encoded in
symbols or feelings. The dream state disconnects from the linear mind,
making it possible, perhaps to receive nonlinear data. And I
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mentioned obviously dream time. The aboriginal dream time suggests that
dreams are nonlinear. Is a nonlinear realm eternally coexistent with
physical time. Now, what about the role of consciousness in
nonlinear time? Consciousness as the time navigator. The emerging idea
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in the fringe of physics and metaphysics is that consciousness
might not just be in time. It might be what
navigates time. If time is a field like space, then
consciousness might be a kind of vehicle that moved through
that field. And entanglement and retrocausality talks about this a
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little bit. Quantum experiments have shown that particles can appear
to influence each other across time, even into the past.
Some theorists argue that intention, emotion, or thought could have
causal effects that ripple backwards or even sideways in time. So,
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with regards to the secular and other ancient views regarding time.
What are we left with? Well, if time is an illusion,
or at least it's not linear, what are the implications
of that? Well, our memories may not be anchored to
the real past. Our future might already exist, and perhaps
it's accessible. We might be living in multiple versions of
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our life lives simultaneously. What if visualizing the future is
actually tuning into a version that that already exists. What
if our choices create branching timelines and we can navigate
towards the one with desire. These are all questions that
would come up if you view time in the way
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that secular physicists, scientists, the ancient people's view time. But
what does the Bible say about time? Well, firstly, the
Bible presents time in multiple dimensions, linear in one sense,
but also eternal chirotic or divine timing, and nonlinear in
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certain visions and revelations. So God is outside of space
and time is not in time. Time is in God.
That's not just a theological platitude, it's deeply rooted in scripture.
So ninety verse four for a thousand years in thy
sight or else, but yesterday when it is passed, and
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as are watching the night to Peter chapter three, verse eight.
But Beloved, be not ignorant, as this one thing that
one day is with the Lord as a thousand years,
and a thousand years as one day. So these verses
are implying that God operates outside of linear time, perceiving
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all moments at once, much like the block universe theory.
So this isn't just poetic. It suggests God is not
subject to this arrow of time. That's what these scriptures suggest.
In fact, many theologians believe that God existing what we
might call a timeless now, were past, present, and future
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are simultaneously all present before God. And like I mentioned,
it's like in Australia way mirrors the block universe theory
and physics, where every moment in time coexists and we
simply experience it sequentially. So the Bible states that time
is created. That's clear from Genesis one. Time begins with
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creation evening and morning the first day. God is eternal,
but time is part of creation, suggesting that time is
not fundamental to reality itself. The Bible talks about eternity
and timelessness Ecclesiastes, chapter three, verse eleven says He have
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made everything beautiful in his time. Also he has set
the world, and that word world translated there as world
is actually eternity, so it should read also he has
set eternity in their heart, so that no man can
find out the work that God make from the beginning
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to the end. So even us humans are bound by time,
we have this deep intuition of the eternal, which implies
a yearning to break beyond temporal limits. Now, the New
Testament uses two Greek words for time, kronos, which is
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chronological or sequential time, or chiros appointed or divine time.
So Ephesians chapter five, verse sixteen talks about redeeming the
time because the days are evil, and it's actually redeeming
the chiros so appointed or divine time because the days
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are evil, which suggests that certain moments carry more spiritual weight,
that time isn't always equal. The Book of Revelation portrays
time in a strange nonlinear way or weighs visions of
the end, the present, and even eden seem to overlap.
What does the Lord say? He says this in Revelation
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chapter one and verse eight. I am the Alpha and
the Omega the beginning and the ending, save the load,
which is and which was, and which is to come
the almighty. So apocalyptic time and vision the end, let's
say that has already happened. So what is apocalyptic time? Now?
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Apocalyptic doesn't just mean catastrophic destruction. It comes from the
Greek word apocalypsis, which means basically an unveiling or a revealing,
and apocalyptic time is not chronological. It's revelatory, and it's
often breaking into the present with visions of the end,
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judgment and new order, the collapse of timelines into a singular,
divine moment. And these visions don't function according to the
ordinary course on effect. In apocalyptic consciousness, past, present and
future fold into one another. So time as near and delayed.
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Revelation one, verse three, the time is at hand, But
two Peter three, verse eight, be not ignorant of this
one thing, that one day is with the Lord as
a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
So this duality or urgency and delay suggests that God's
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time operates on a different frequency. Apocalyptic time compresses epochs
into moments and stretches seconds into eternities. The revisions that
defy time. John says, I was in the spirit on
the Lord's Day and heard behind me a great voice.
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That's Revelation one, verse ten. And Johnny's then pulled out
a normal time, and in his vision he sees events
that have already occurred, for example, the fall of Satan
that are actually happening in his time, the persecution of
the Church, and then things that will occur, the Final Judgment,
the new Heaven and Earth. And it's not linear. The
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prophecy is not linear. It's cosmic simultanety. So there's a
collapse of linear time in the Book of Revelation. It's
a time bending document. Really says that the Lamb was
slain from the foundation of the world Revelation thirteen, verse eight.
So that's a paradox because Christ's crucifixion happens in history,
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yet it's also eternal. The Final Judgment happens in context
where death and health are personified and cast away. Time
itself ends and eternity begins. So time in the apocalyptic
sense is not destroyed, it's transcended. Some Puritan thinkers so
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time as a fleeting preparation for eternity. John Flavel said
time is God's loan not man's possession. Every moment is
precious because it slides away. John Owynn taught that defined
decrees a timeless meaning. God's purposes are already complete, though
unfolding in human time. And Dr Martin Lloyd Jones he said,
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well he viewed apocalyptic texts has not purely future orientated,
but meant to shape how believers perceived the present. The
end has broken into history, he said, in the person
of Christ, and we live in the last days already.
What about non Christian and esoteric apocalyptic time well, Gnostic texts,
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for example, the Apocalypse of Adam suggests time is a
trap created by the demiurge. True revelation free the soul
from linear bondage emetic and alchemical time. The end is
a return alchemists sought the prima materia, the beginning hidden
in the end, Time loops back to the source. Mayan
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Time Revisited twenty twelve was not seen as the end
of time, but a dimensional reset, the shift from one
cycle of perception to another. Now apocalyptic visions as time travel.
Apocalyptic vision is often report being caught up in the
spirit seems symbols that unfold events outside of human history
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receiving knowledge of alternate futures or interventions. And this mirrors
remote viewing, psychedelic time distortions and dream revelations. And the
implication is that apocalyptic profits is like the like time
travelers of consciousness accessing timelines, we can't see through our
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five senses. So the end that was is and will
be apocalyptic time breaks the illusion of progress and permanence.
It shows that we may already be living in the
end times in some sense, that time is not sequential,
but layered with revelation, that visionary experience often reveals multiple
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simultaneous timelines, not just a singular, unfolding future. So what
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did the great Protestant thinkers say about time? Well, Martin Luther,
the great German reformer. Luther didn't philosophize deeply on time itself,
but he emphasized that God's grace breaks into human time
at chirotic moments. He viewed history as linear but punctuated
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by divine intervention culminating in the Cross and Christ's return.
He said, we are beggars. This is true. His final
words are reminder that human time is finite, but grace
is not. John Calvin Calvin emphasized God's sovereignty over time
and history in his institutes. He wrote that time is
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governed by divine providence and all moments are under God's will.
There are no accidents in time. God so regulates all things.
He said, nothing takes place without his deliberation. That's very
important to remember. So when you look at this chaotic
world and these lunatics that are in charge or think
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they're in charge, just remember that God is sovereign and
everything is governed by his divine providence. Calvin believed in predestination,
which implies a nonlinear of you of time from God's perspective,
that all outcomes are foreknn and foreordained. And it wouldn't
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be God if he didn't know these things. If God
didn't foreknow all things, it wouldn't be God. It's just
that simple. But God's is God. Therefore he does for
no and foreordain all things. What about Jonathan Edwards, probably
the greatest thinker to come out of the United States,
And if you read Jonathan Edwards's books, they will take
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you some serious time to read them. The heavy duty,
the real really deep. But this is what Edward said.
He spoke of time in the context of eternity and
human finitude, and in his sermons like the Preciousness of Time,
he urged people to live with eternity in mind, suggesting
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time is fleeting and sacred. He said time is a
thing that is exceedingly precious, and he also wrote about
God's timeless nature. God's knowledge is without succession. He beholds
all things at once.
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That's what he said.
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Called both in church dogmatics, both describe God's time as
eternal and distinct from human time. He coined the term
divine temporality, which is a mysterious state where God engages
with human history while remaining outside of time, and that
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God has this basically his own time, his own form
of time, but he chooses to enter our time through
the person of Christ. So in this view, Christ becomes
the hinge point of history, the moment were eternity and
time touch were nonlinear and linear converge. So for Boar,
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if Jesus Christ is the intersection of eternity and time,
the ultimate Chiros moment. What about C. S. Lewis a
more recent thinker. I wouldn't agree with a lot of
Lewis's theological points, but as a thinker. He says some
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good things. And obviously I've done the episode with Gary
Wayne where we talk about J. R. R. Tolkien and C. S.
Lewis was friends with Tolkien. Lewis was supposedly a Christian.
I don't know the man's heart, but I'm gonna quote
him anyway, because he does say some good things. There
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is people out there who aren't Christians who say some
good things, say some interesting things, and some important things.
So Lewis often used metaphor to describe time. He said
that if you picture time as a straight line along
which we travel, then you must picture God as the
whole page on which the line is drawn. He said
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that in a book called Mere Christianity, and he suggested
God experiences all moments simultaneously, but interacts with us in
linear time, again echoing the block universe concept. In The
Great Divorce and The Perilandra, Lewis explores nonlinear time, timeless states,
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and even alternate timelines from a Christian lens. What about
Augustine of Hippo Though the pre Reformation, his influence on
Protestant thought is immense, particularly through his magnum Opus confessions.
Augustine famously wrestled with the nature of time, posing the
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question what then is time? If no one asks me,
I know, If I wish to explain it to one
who asks, I do not know. He concluded that time
is a distension of the soul, arguing that past, present,
and future exists primarily in the mind. The past is
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a memory, the future is expectation, and the present is attention.
For Augustine, time is not a thing, but rather a
measure of change. He also emphasized God's eternal nature, existing
outside of time and creating time with the universe. John Flavell,
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an author I would recommend he a, was a Puritan
preacher and he was known for his rich devotional writings.
He said that time is a talent committed to our trust,
and as such must be improved, and that was in
keeping the heart and flavul worn that time is not neutral,
it is God given stewardship and wasting it is spiritual neglect.
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He taught at the final Judgment, every moment would be
accounted for, especially time spent idle or in sin, and
he said that the shortness of time should quicken us
in duty and deter us from sin. And if we're
honest with ourselves. We all waste time and have probably
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wasted most of our lives. And that goes for me certainly.
What did John Owen say? Another great thinker, theologian of
great depth and insight, especially on spiritual matters. Owen emphasize
that eternity, not time, should shape the believer's perspective. He
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saw that life on earth as a preparation for eternity,
where the soul must be made fit for eternal communion
with God. He said, let us look on things here
below as passing away, and mind eternity above all. And
he warned that time could numb the saul if lived
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without constant reference to eternity. And that's one thing that
can happen in this day and age so easily. There's
so many things bonboarding is at the moment, and if
you sat there watching a television or listening to a radio,
they are going to numb your soul. They're not great
spiritual activities at all. And I would suggest don't watch
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the telly or watch very very little telly, spend more
time in prayer, meditation and reading the Bible. And I'm
talking to myself as well now as well as everybody else.
What about Dr Martin Lloyd Jones. I've listened to Dr
Martin Lloyd Jones on Spotify. You can get the guy's
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sermons on there. He died in nineteen eighty one. He
was from Wales, but he preached the Westminster Chapel in London,
and I would recommend getting his books. I would recommend
listening to his sermons. And he's one of the greatest
preachers of the twentieth century and he's deeply influential in
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the reform circles. What did he have to say about time, Well,
he said time is always a very vital factor in
the whole of our life and living. It is the
most irretrievable thing of all. Now, Lloyd Johns often preached
about the urgency of the gospel rooted in the brevity
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of life, and he believed that Satan's greatest strategy was
to convince people that they had plenty of time, and
he does that. A lot of people talk about when
they're going to retire, what they're going to do when
they retire. They might not get to retirement age. I
was looking the other day on chat GPT quickly just
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wanted to know the average sort of age of death
in the United Kingdom because people talk about middle age
and this is going to shock you now, but a
lot of people say, well, middle age, it's like when
you get to fifty. Well, no, it isn't. In the UK,
middle age for men is thirty nine and for women
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it's forty one. So I am past middle age because
I'm forty six next month. And why is that middle age?
Because the average age of death for men is seventy eight.
It's seventy eight point six and for women it is
eighty two zero point one. So that's the average age
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of death. Now, obviously some people live longer than that,
some people live a lot less than that, but that's
the average. So if you think you're not middle aged
yet because you've not hit the age of fifty and
you live in the UK, and obviously around the world
they're going to be very similar to the United States, Canada, Australia, wherever,
they're going to be a similar sort of average age,
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maybe slightly less. And obviously that was for the whole
of the United Kingdom, so all the countries in the
UK and all the areas everything incorporated, and there's going
to be areas where, for example, I know for a fact,
where I'm originally from the northwest of England, I'm pretty
certain it's lower than seventy eight the average age, and
I believe the northeast of England's lower. Again, so we
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don't have plenty of time. None of us have plenty
of time. And Lloyd John said the greatest folly of
all is to postpone dealing with the soul. He rejected
the idea as history being cyclical, and he asserted that
time is linear and headed towards a final divine consummation.
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So the Bible and Protestant tradition teachers that time is created,
it's not eternal. God is not bound by time, that
some moments are more than just moments, the divine intersections,
and we finite beings, carry with us this longing for eternity,
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as it talks about in Ecclesiastes, chapter three and verse eleven.
So maybe that strange sense that time isn't what it seems,
the feelings that we've been here before, that dreams carry truth,
that moments repeat, maybe it's not an illusion, Maybe it's
a memory. Who knows. The Bible portrays time as a
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valuable resource given by God, urging wise use and awareness
of its limitations. It emphasizes the importance of making the
most of each moment and recognizing that time is fleeting.
The Old Testament views time as prophetic, pointing towards the
future kingdom of heaven, while the New Testament sees it
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as apocalyptic, with the kingdom already initiated but not fully
realized until the end. Time's a gift. The Bibles suggests
that time is a gift from God given to all
people to steward for his glory, so it's important to
make the best use of time. Ephesians talks about walking carefully,
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not as the unwise, but the wise, making the best
use of time obviously because the days are evil and
paraphrasing now, this means being mindful and intentional with how
we spend our time. We've got to be aware of
the time and its limitations. So obviously the brevity of
human life urging us to be a word of all
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limited time and use it wisely. That's what Psalm thirty nine,
verses five to six does. Times a season talks about
a time for everything in Ecclesiastic time to die, time
to live, time to laugh. All these things a season
for every activity under the heaven, highlighting the cyclical nature
of life and the importance of recognizing the appropriate time
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for different actions. Odd timing. The Bible also emphasizes that
God has his own timing and that certain events may
not be revealed to humans until his chosen time. And
we know that. So we've journeyed through secular physics, philosophical debates,
cyclical and linear religious views, delved into biblical truths and
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Protestant thought. What are the practical takeaways from this episode
which hopefully have enjoyed. Whether you lean towards a purely
scientific understanding or a deeply spiritual one, the concept of
time forces us to confront or finitune. We are mortal
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beings in a temporal world, and this reality can be daunting,
but it's also incredibly motivating. From a secular viewpoint, understanding
the relativity of time can encourage us to appreciate the
present moment, recognizing its unique, fleeting nature. It might inspire
us to make the most of all limited time on
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this planet, pursuing knowledge, experiencing joy, and contributing to the
betterment of society. From a biblical and Protestant perspective, the
implications are even more profound. If time is a gift
from God, which I believe it is, and the Bible
teaches that it's a stage for his redemptive plan, then
how we spend our time becomes a matter of spiritual significance,
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of eternal spiritual significance. It's about stewardship not just of resources,
but of the very moment of our lives. This means
living intentionally, pursuing what truly matters, and aligning our actions
with God's purposes. It means recognizing the chiros moments in
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our own lives, those opportunities for growth, service, and spiritual deepening.
It means understanding that while our days are numbered, our
impact can echo in eternity, so that one conversation you
may have had years ago with someone about the Lord
or attract you may have given them, don't underestimate that,
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because the impact can echo all the way through eternity. Now,
the Protestant emphasis on the priesthood of all believers and
the calling to serve God in our everyday lives means
that even mundane tasks can be imbued with eternal significance
when done for God's glory. For example, when you're at work,
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do it to God's glory. You might not even like
your job. I'm fortunate I have a job that I enjoy.
But some people go to work and they don't enjoy
the job. They might not be doing it well. Well,
that's a poor witness. What I would say is do
your job well, do it to the glory of God,
because it matters. Every tick of the clock is an
opportunity to respond to God's grace and live out our
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faith in this world. So I'm going to bring this
to a conclusion. Now we've had this discussion on time.
I've talked about time from different perspectives, and what we
need to remember is that it's both a mystery and
it's a gift. It defines our existence yet transcends our
full comprehension. So, whether you ponder its physical properties or
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its spiritual dimensions, take a moment to consider how you
are inhabiting your time or you living purposefully. Are you
appreciating the present or you're preparing for what lies beyond?
The clock does continue to tick. With each tick, we
are giving another precious opportunity to live, to learn, to love,
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and to grow Hopefully this has been helpful for you guys.
Hopefully this will make you think about how you are
spending your time. It certainly made me think about how
I'm spending my time. And I'm hoping that the time
I've spent over the last two years doing this podcast
will echo into eternity, that there will be people through
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some of the strange things we've talked about over the
two years that have been brought in by listening to
these strange things, have been exposed then to the Gospel.
Because that's the prayer of my heart that people are
exposed to the Gospel when listening to this podcast. And
I do that at every opportunity that I can do.
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And I'm thankful to God for this platform and that
moment in time two years ago when I was pondering
whether to start a podcast, and then I just started it.
It's led up to this point now we're one hundred
and five episodes in. There were thousands of people listen
every single week. So if there's something you're thinking of doing,
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whether it's starting a podcast or writing a book, just
start doing it because you never know what the implications
are going to be in the future, and you don't
know what implications are going to be for eternity. We
can do things and do do things that have a
ripple effect into the future of our lives, which can
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affect many people, not just including ourselves, and it can
be bad things, can it. But we can also do
things now for the glory of God that will have
these implications and ripple right through into eternity. And I
hope that if I've just reached one person in my
entire life, my life would have been worth living. So
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remember God sees the beginning from the end. When we
see all these things like it's looking like they're going
to be bringing in digital ideas and digital currencies to controllers,
and they've got this climate agenda, and we see the
rise of is life throughout the West, and this LGBTQ
(56:04):
movement seems to be growing and growing and growing, and
millions of babies are being aborted, and they're trying to
bringing Euphinasia into all these countries. Just remember that God
has the beginning and the ending in front of him,
and he's sovereign, And the Bible tells you the end
(56:25):
the end of all these things, that Christ will return
and there will be final judgment, there will be real justice.
People talk about justice, you don't really want justice in
this life because if you get justice, each one of
us will be sent to hell. What we need in
(56:46):
this life is mercy and grace. But in the next
life there will be final justice. So that's it for
me today, Guys, god willing. I will be back next
week with a new topic, hopefully another top picked us
helpful to you and and also interesting. So as usual, guys,
I'm Paul, and this is beyond the paradigm.
Speaker 2 (57:13):
My crazy. We don't use that word in here, s
(58:02):
S S
Speaker 3 (58:09):
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