September 19, 2025 • 66 mins
In this episode of Beyond the Paradigm, we dive into the money, influence, and politics behind Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA. From Jewish and Christian Zionist donors to a staggering $150 million offer reportedly extended by Netanyahu himself — which Kirk allegedly turned down — we trace the forces shaping one of America’s most influential political networks.We also examine Kirk’s recent statements on Israel and their cultural, theological, and political implications.Linksemail:beyondtheparadigm@yahoo.comBeyond the Paradigm - YouTubeinstagram.com/paradigm1979twitter.com/paradigm_79(1) FacebookSupport The Showpatreon.com/BeyondTheParadigmbuymeacoffee.com/beyondthep5
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It is a pleasure to be back after missing a
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of recent events on the tenth of September, I've now
got this sort of topic to speak about, which is
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assessment of mine, I've done a little bit of an
investigation into it, like I said, and one man and
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I've got limited time, but I have done a bit
of an investigation. And obviously the topic is regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happened on the tenth of September.
And for those of you outside the United States, you
might think, well, why why is this even relevant. Well,
I'm gonna demonstrate you why the assassination this man is
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relevant to everyone around the world, whether you knew who
he was or not. Now, firstly, what I want to
say is is that my familiarity with Charlie Kirk is
very very limited. I came across him on short Instagram videos,
and I've just read little bits about him before, but
basically what I've seen of him my own personal experience was,
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first of all, he was pro life, so I used
to see quite a lot of videos where obviously he
was talking about abortion, which I agreed with him on. Obviously,
being a Christian and pro life and anti abortion, so
I agreed with him on that. But in particular, most
of the videos that seemed to come into my feed
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was in being basically a Zionist, a Christian Zionist. He
claimed to have been a Christian, and he was definitely
pro Israel. So my view of him wasn't particularly positive
in the sense that I disagreed with the things he
was saying regarding Palestinians, and obviously the situation there in Gaza.
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I disagreed with him strongly on it, and I have
actually heard some abhorrent things what he've said. I recently
heard a clip where he made sort of a joke
about gaze where he said that, well, I used to
think that gaze in Palestine would be thrown off tall buildings,
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but they've no longer got any tall buildings, and then
he says too soon, and then he says, stupid Muslims. Basically,
you shouldn't, you know, mess with the bull or you'll
get the horns. I mean, I just find that particularly
a borrn. So that's my personal experience of Charlie Kirk,
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obviously being over here in the UK. I've never seen
him in person, never spoken to him. I've just seen videos,
so I don't know him, and I'm just giving you
my own personal experiences, my limited sort of exposure to
Charlie Kirk. But for those of you that don't know
who he is, he was essentially a political activist who
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was the head of a organization, if you want to
call it, that called Turning Point USA, and it was
a so called right wing conservative sort of organization pro Trump.
And he used to go around and he used to
go to universities and speak to the university students and
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he'd sit there and he'd field questions from them on
various topics. Like I said, most of the ones I've
seen were regarding abortion or to do with the Israel Palestine.
But he commented on a lot of things, and I
have seen videos of him where he does talk about
Jesus and tells people that they must believe in him,
which is obviously positive. So they're just recent things that
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I've seen since investigating this. They didn't sort of used
to come into a newsfeed for some reason. But anyway,
I've seen him recently on videos where he talks about
Jesus and everything, so that is obviously a thumbs up
and a positive. Now, let's be clear, nobody should be shot.
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Nobody should be killed because they perhaps have views that
you don't like. First of all, this man, he was
a human being, so he was created in the image
of God, just like you and just like me. He
was a father, he had two small children, He was
a husband, and obviously he was a son. He had parents,
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and no matter what, murder is wrong, and this man
was murdered. Let's make no mistake about that. He was
shot and killed, cold blooded murder in public, in front
of his children, his wife, and all these other people
that were attending his event. His children, one of them
I think was only like born last year. I think
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he had two little girls. And apparently when the shot
went out, his daughter went to him because she didn't
like the noise. So let's take a moment to just
reflect on that that this man was a human being.
Now his wife has no husband, and them children have
no father. So no matter what else we think about
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things he said, what he stood for, or anything, we
need to keep that in mind. And nobody, you know,
should forget that because it is her human tragedy. And
like I said, he was murdered, and that is clearly
against the sixth Commandment. Now, in the King James version
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which I read, it says thou shalt not kill. But
we need to elaborate on that just a little bit
before we get more into this little investigation here. So
the Hebrew word that is used there is well, I'm
not going to pronounce it because I probably can't pronounce it,
but i'll spell it. It's r A t s ach
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and it's more precisely translated as murder rather than the
broader sense of kill. So you shall not murder. Basically,
that's the sixth commandment, and it means basically, it's forbidding
the unlawful taking of human life. It does not forbid
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or killing, for example, just war, self defense, or capital punishment,
because they treated differently in the Bible. And obviously these
are debated among Christians. But I believe in capital punishment.
I believe in capital punishment for rapists, pedophiles.
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For murderers.
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Now, the reform tradition which I'm part of and large
is on the obviously ten Commandments in the Westminster Larger Catechism.
So I just want to read what it says about
the sixth Commandment so we fully understand why this was evil,
what happened, And just to sort of debunk any people
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who are saying, well, the Bible says, you know you
shouldn't kill, but you know it tells you that you
execute people for this, that and the other. Like I've
just said there, it doesn't forbid killing for just war
or self defense or capital punishment. It forbids the unlawful
taking of human life, which is murder. Now, the Westminster
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Larger Catechism, the question one hundred and thirty five says
what other duties required in the six Commandment. It says
the duties required are all careful studies and lawful endeavors
to preserve the life of ourselves and others by resisting
all thoughts and purposes, subduing all passions, and avoiding all occasions, temptations,
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and practices which tend to the unjust taking away the
life of any by just defend thereof against violence, patient
bearing of the hand of God, quietness of mind, cheerfulness
of spirit, a sober use of meat, drink, physic sleep,
labor and recreations, by charitable thoughts, love, compassion, meekness, gentleness, kindness, peaceable,
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mild and courteous speeches and behavior forbearings, readiness to be reconciled,
patient bearing and forgiving of injuries, and requiring good for evil,
comforting and succoring the distress, and protecting and defending the innocent.
Hundred and thirty six. What are the sins forbidden? In
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the sixth Commandment? The sins forbidden are all taken away
the life of ourselves or of others, except in the
case of public justice, lawful war, unnecessary self defense, the
neglecting or withdrawing of the lawful and necessary means of
preservation of life. Sinful anger, hatred, envy, desire of revenge,
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all excessive passions, distracting cares in, moderate use of meats, drink,
labor and recreations, provoking words, oppression, quarreling, striking, wounding, and
whatsoever else tends to the destruction of the life of any.
So Hopefully that clears it up. And there's a lot
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to think about. There isn't there regarding the preservation of
our own lives and other peoples. So let's look at
the official narrative, and as usual, I will always tell
you straight up, the official narrative is not true. So
police have identified this guy called Tyler Robinson, aged twenty two,
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and he's apparently the assassin who fatally shot Charlie Kirk
at Utah Valley University on the tenth of September. Robinson
has been charged with aggravated murder, fell in a discharge
of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, and obstruction of justice. Now,
law enforcement have confirmed that Robinson was living with a
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transgender roommate. That's a common thing that's coming out now,
this transgender, transgender shooters or links to transgender and apparently
communications between the two helped the FEDS catch the alleged assassin. Now, apparently,
Robinson's dad allegedly turned him in after seeing footage of
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the suspect fleeing the scene of the crime, the scene
of the shooting, obviously jumping off the roof running away,
and he said that apparently he'd recognized this as being
his son, so he turned him in. Now what they
want us to believe is is this character Robinson did.
He climbed up this drain pipe, got onto this roof,
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changed his clothes, and there was this rifle there for him. Yeah,
and with one shot he killed Charlie Kirk, then got
changed out of the clause back into his other ones
and fled the scene of the crime. Ridiculous. And I'm
going to explain to you why it's ridiculous, even just
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from a military perspective. So first of all, right, I
want to know why we got the rifle, but more importantly,
Worre did his zero his rifle, because it's not that simple.
You can't just buy a rifle, stick a scope on
it and shoot someone from approximately two hundred yards and
hit them straight away if you're not training and you've
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never used that rifle. And like I said, I've been
in the army, and I know for a fact that
this story is not true, just by the fact that
they want us to believe that this guy with no
training shot Charlie Kirk in the neck one shot and
killed him. Now, for those of you that have never
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been in the army, there were marksmanship principles and in
the British Army were taught five marksmanship principles. So number
one is the position and hold must be firm enough
to support the weapons. So your body position must provide
a stable platform so the rifle is properly supported without
unnecessary strain. Number two is the weapon must point naturally
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at the target without undue physical efforts, so the aim
should align naturally with the target. You shouldn't have to
force it into position. Number three is site alignment and
the site picture must be correct, so the sites must
be aligned properly and the correct site picture must be
maintained consistently. Number four is the shot must be released
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and followed through without undue disturbance to the position. So
the trigger should be pressed smoothly, and you must maintain
position after the shot to ensure accuracy. And the shot
must be observed and if necessary, corrected, so the firing
must watch where the shot goes and are just if
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needed for the next round. So when you zero win
in you're there at the rifle range. You take a shot,
so where you're looking. Let's see it doesn't hit that say,
it hits to the left, So you're now going to
have to adjudgy sites to the right, So you might
do two clicks to the right, let's say, but let's
say the heights correct, so you're hitting the correct height,
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but it's off to the left, so you're having some
judgy site. Now, then you fire another shot and you
thing must still slightly. I'll give it one more click,
so you're having to zero your weapon. But we're expected
to believe that this character Robinson got this rifle and
just fired it and he'd never fired it before, and
he's shot and killed Charlieka with one shot. Absolutely ridiculous.
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So that's the suspect that they've got this Tyler Robinson.
Now there's a few people, well a couple of people.
I just want us to take cognizance of regarding this incident.
So I don't know if any of you have seen
the footage, but there was this character who jumped up
and said I've shot him, shoot me, and he was arrested. Now,
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this guy was a guy called George Zin, and the
Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith said that George Zen he'd
admitted to police that he yelled that he was the
shooter to allow the actual suspect to flee. Now Zin
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as previously been in a documentary regarding nine to eleven,
and on the documentary he talks about how he witnessed
the attacks in New York on September the eleventh. Not
only that, in twenty thirteen, Zin was charged with one
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count of making terroristic threats of the second degree felony
after he emailed the Salt Lake Sitting Marathon requesting to
help place bombs at the marathons finish line. And obviously
that's in light of the Boston Marathon bombing.
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It was after that.
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George Zin is an Ashkenazi Jew and that will be
relevant and you'll realize why it's relevant as we go
on in this episode. There's also another person of interest,
and that is a lady by the name of Astrid
Tuminez and she is the president of the Utah Valley
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University where Charlie Kirk was shot. She has also been
a program officer at the Carnegie Corporation of New York.
Why do I mention that, well, the Carnegie Corporation funds
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a lot of Jewish interests. Not only that, Astrid Tuminees
is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and
she's also on Mormon. Now you may be thinking why
I'm mentioning these two people. Well, do a little bit
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of digging, guys, and start connecting some dots. Like I said,
this is an initial sort of investigation into what's gone
on here. Obviously, more information's gonna come out, and I'm
going to provide you with information and hopefully you guys
out there can help me as well, and you guys
can go away and investigate. So look into this, George
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Zin and Astrid Tumenez. And something else to take into
consideration is that the first news outlet or first media corporation,
whatever you want to call them, to report Charlie Kirk's
death was the Jerusalem Post. They reported it the time
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for September twenty twenty five, at twelve to fifty four
Utah time, in an article titled conservative commentator Charlie Kirk
assassinated in Utah Valley University shooting. So they reported that
at twelve fifty four Charlie Kirk was shot at twelve
twenty three, So thirty one minutes after Charlie Kirk was
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shot and killed, the Jerusalem Post had written an article
and published it, and there's also been people commenting on
two particular guys who were seen apparently giving hand signals
right before Charlie Kirk was shot. Now, there was a
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guy in I think he was in a black T shirt.
I don't know who that is. But there is a
guy stood there and he's got a white baseball cap on.
He's wearing glasses. I think he's got a white T
shirt on or a white polo shirt. And he's seen
touching the peak of his cap and then he rubs
his nose. And people are saying that this guy al
he's signaling to the shooter to shoot. Well, I don't
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believe that at all, because I know who the guy is.
This guy is called Frank Treurek, and he is a
Christian apologist and his organization is called Cross Examined. Now
his theological position on a few things I don't agree with,
but he is a Christian apologist. He is a clever guy,
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and he goes to universities as well, and he speaks
to students and everything, and he fields questions. He doesn't
do it like Charlie sort of sat outside. He'll be
on a stage and he'll answer questions and everything, and
he has quite a powerful testimony because his mother actually
conceived him in rape, so he was a rape baby
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and his mom kept him and he talks about this.
So this guy, Frank Sharek, was a friend of Charlie
Kirks and he was there and people are going he
was signaling to the shooter. I don't believe that. Like
I said, he's a Christian apologist. I don't agree with
everything he says, some of his theological positions, but he
does answer some questions in it correctly, as I think,
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and quite cleverly in a lot of circumstances. So for
those of you that see the video and see this
guy in why it is Frank Scharek, and I don't
believe that he has any involvement at all. And another
thing that people are talking about is sort of symbolism.
And one of the things that's been spoken about is
the fact that the suspect was reportedly caught and arrested
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after thirty three hours, and apparently it was said in
a press conference, can't remember who the guy is, but
apparently he emphasized that the guy was this Tyler Robinson
was caught after thirty three hours, and obviously The number
thirty three is relevant to the Scottish writer freemasonry because
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normally the scottis Right only has thirty two normal degrees,
but the thirty third is a special sort of degree
which is conferred only on select members. So people are
saying that the sort of signaling that this was, you know,
a ritualistic killing by them saying, oh, you know this
number thirty three that.
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The suspect was caught after thirty three hours.
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M m.
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Mm.
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Following the money is always a smart thing to do
when we're looking into something like this, like this desperate
assassination of this man.
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Charlie Kirk.
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So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna follow the money.
So I'm gonna look at some of the major funders
of Turning Point USA. I'm not gonna talk about all
of them that I've found, because some of them I'm
still looking into them, but I'm just gonna give sort
of some brief background into some of them. So you've
got the Marcus Foundation, which is Bernie Marcus was the
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sort of founder. He was Jewish. It's publicly known and
he's one of the largest known donors, and they've given
over one point five million dollars, and that was between
twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen. Then you have the ed
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Uline Family Foundation, which they're a Christian organization. Apparently I
haven't done a great deal of investigation into these, but
they apparently donated seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars between
twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen. Then you have a guy
called Gary ray Bean. He's apparently a Christian. When I
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say Christian, I'm using this loosely. This is what these
people are saying. I don't know if they really are,
but he's massively pro Israel and he was an early
business donor to Turning Point USA. There's also the Tracking Foundation,
which is Stephen Feinberg, Jewish, contributed eight hundred thousand dollars
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between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Some other names. Bernard Marcus,
co founder of Home Depot, major Republican and pro Israel
donner he's now dead, bought two point one million dollars
to Turning Point USA via the Marcus Family Foundation between
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twenty fifteen twenty nineteen, and it's been described that they
have heavy ongoing support. They're a long time backer of
anything that's sort of youth focused conservatism and Israel advocacy.
Can you see a pattern forming here? Guys, Miriam Adelson,
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widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, billionaire pro Israel philanthropist
direct donations reported offered major funding infusions tied to pro
Israel alignment, and the support emphasized Turning Point USA's role
in conservative politics and recent reports no potential pullback and
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made some of Kirk's Israel criticisms. I'm going to speak
about that later. And then you've got Paul Singer, who's
a hedge fund billionaire and pro Israel donor donations are
confirmed by reports part of a broader funding to conservative
youth groups and then focused on foreign policy and Republican
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causes linked to Turning Point usay's pro Israel events. But
the rabbit all that you need to look into, guys,
is Donor's Trust. So Donor's Trust is apparently a mixed conservative, quote, Christian,
and Jewish or backers, whatever you want to call them. Now,
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Donor's Trust is an anonymous dark money conduit and large
sums of money passed through to Turning Point USA, And
like I said, it's dark money and it's anonymous, so
the actual funders we don't know who they are. But
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Donor's Trust is given a lot of money to far
right organizations. Many of them were like anti Muslim organizations.
But I'm only scratching the surface here, and that's one
that I would say to people, have a look into
Donor's Trust when you've got some time, because that's going
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to be a deep rabbit hole. It's basically called the
dark money atm of you know, right wing conservatism, and
large sums. Don't know exactly how much, but large sums
of money we're given to Turning Point USA. Like I said,
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you know Turning Point USA. It's received funding from various
conservative sources and they all seem to be pro Israel,
though detailed sort of dournalists are not fully public due
to organizations nonprofit status and the use of donor advised funds.
But I've listed some of them based on sort of
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available reports. There are other ones that I could mention.
You know, there's the Linda and Harry Bradley Foundation. They
are apparently a Catholic group. There's other donors advised funds,
Vanguard Charitable, Schwab Charitable, et cetera. So you know this
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is going to be a rabbit all, isn't it? Following
the money. But like I said, if you want to
look into something looking to donors, trust So as you've
been picking up on a little common thread that's coming
up during this podcast episode Turning Point, USA was supported
and backed by Israel. Okay, not just Israeli donors, but
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he was backed by Israel, and his Israeli liaison was
Ben Shapiro of The Daily Wire. He was pro Israel,
was Kirk. He was pro due, pro Zionist. But apparently
ever since Trump's Epstein clarent list released the Barcle, sources
close to Kirk claim he began seeing Israel, Jews, and
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Trump in a different light and he was losing trust
in them being allies with America or even American at
all in case of the Jews living in the USA.
And his opinion alone wasn't the issue. It was the
fact that Kirk began dropping breadcumbs on He showed that
perhaps Israel and Jews were working against America and especially
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white people. And it's also reported that Kirk rejected an
offer from earlier this year from Netimyah, who Israel's Prime minister,
which was to arrange this massive infusion of Zionist money,
new money, one hundred and fifty million dollars infusion into
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Turning Point USA, which is America's largest youth association Conservative
youth association. Should I say now a long time friend
of Charlie Kirk who has remained anonymous, and I've read
a sort of report, who's done an interview or spoken
to this person, but he basically said that Charlie Kirk
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had said that he believed NAT and Yahoo was trying
to cory him into silence as he began to publicly
question Israel's overwhelming influence in Washington, and Charlie Kirk had
demanded more space to criticize it. And in weeks leading
up to his assassination, Kirk had come to lave the
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Israeli leader and he regarded him as a bullet. And
the source said that Kirk was disgusted by what he
witnessed inside the Trump administration when Nettema, who sought to
personally dictate the President's personal decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets
like billionaire donner Miriam Adelson to keep the White House
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firmly under his thumb. And according to Kirk's friend, who
also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and he's inner circle.
Kirk strongly won Trump last June against bombing Iran on
Israel's behalf, and Charlie apparently was the only person who
did that, they said, and he recalls how Trump barked
at him in response and angrily shut him down in
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the conversation. And the source believes that the incident confirmed
in Kirk's mind that the president of the United States
has fallen under the control of a malign foreign power
and was leading his own country into a series of
disastrous conflicts. And by the following month, Kirk had become
the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and
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free floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Nettiyahu,
figures he described in an interview as Jewish leaders and stakeholders,
and he was said to be afraid of them. Now,
my personal opinion is is that I believe he's Jewish
backers believed he'd become dangerous, and he was going to
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become more dangerous because Charlie seemed to be changing in
his unwavering support for Israel, and a lot of the
youth listened to Charlie. He had a big following, and
a lot of these youths would hang on every word
that Charlie said, so he'd become dangerous to them. Now
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I'm going to play some clips, and this first clip
demonstrates how Charlie had begun, you know, to sort of
notice and then to criticize Jewish donors. Let's say, so,
this is the clip of Charlie Kirk demonstrating some criticism
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of Jewish donors.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
And Jewish donors they have a lot of explaining to do,
a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have
been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border
neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. This is
a beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming
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for Jews and they're like, what on earth happened? And
it's not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies,
it's Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like time for
you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw
one on the sand. I don't care if you hate me.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So as you can see the obviously Charlie's view, he's
now starting to change. I never personally thought I would
hear Charlie Kirk say anything like what he's just said there,
because if any of you have listened to Charlie before,
I mean there's been you know, questions asked of him
and he just says things like I'm regarding Israel and
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he just says things like, yeah, there are greatest Ally,
you know, the Bible tells us that, you know, we've
got to support the Jews, when it doesn't say anything
of the sort. And the reference in Genesis chapter twelve
that I think I've said this before, but that's talking
to Abraham, God speaking to Abraham a person. The nation
of Israel didn't even exist. So this is a Christian
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Zionist heresy that Christians as to support Israel. Well, the
true Israel's biblical Israel. I'm speaking of is all believers
in Jesus Christ. And for those of you that are
familiar to this podcast, you know I've said this before,
and if you'll listen to my episode on dispensationalism, I
talk about that. But you know, Charlie here obviously it's
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quite strong criticism of Jewish dawn as you heard what
he said, and he calls it the beast, the beast
that's been created now. Kirk has also told co workers
at Turning Point USA that he had this meeting at
the White House which fell apart, and that Charlie Kirk,
he said he pleaded with Trump to walk back this
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unwavering military support for Israel, and he told him that
history would not look upon America fondly if they continued
aiding and excusing bloodshed against unharmed civilians in Gaza and
bombing Iran. And Trump apparently ended the meeting after yelling
at Kirk, and afterward, after the meeting, Kirk told sources
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close to him that Trump was obviously under the thumb
of a foreign nation and he'd lost a tremendous amount
of faith in him as the United States president. This
next clip is Charlika being interviewed by Patrick bet David
and he talks about these seventh of October attacks. So
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just I would listen to what Charlie says.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
He is quite.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Revealing anytimes the whole country's a fortress. When I first
heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct
that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.
I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten
feet without running into a nineteen year old with an
AR fifteen or an automatic machine gun as an IDF soldier. Right,
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the whole country is surveilled. And so let me just
kind of go through this. We don't talk about Israeli
politics very often, and most Americans don't know this. The
last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war.
It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff. There were hundreds
of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because bb
Netnyahu is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right.
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He said, the judicial branch is too much power. There
were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated
tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.
That's all gone, Patrick, net Yahoo now has an emergency
government and a mandate to lead. I'm not willing to
say to go so far that saying that net Yahoo
knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some
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questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order?
Was there a stand down order six hours? I don't
believe it Israel's the side of size of New Jersey.
When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the
Gaza border, it's forty five minutes, six hours they're live
streaming the killing of Jews. Was did somebody in the
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government say stand down? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question.
The whole country is the IDEF. The whole country is
and you're trying to tell me that they're going to
concerts and kibbutz's and schools and.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
By well, I am willing to say that the walls
are standdown. I think you have to be a real
simple not to see that. Like he said, he's just
quoted there as saying the whole country's the IDF and
it's only a tiny place is Israel. And you know,
this killing of Jews by Hamas went on for all
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these hours and there was no response to it. They
got through this border, you know, cut the way through
and all this lot and apparently you know, not even
a sparrow a bird can land on this fence without
the IDF knowing about it. But was supposed to believe
that Hamass got through there and slaughtered all these innocent
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civilians and didn't know about it four hours later. It's
absolutely ridiculous. But you can see now. You can see
how Charlie is shifting. And Patrick bet David he's pro Israeli,
so can imagine he was during this interview, but he
was getting a bit nervous when Charlie was saying some
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of these things. And you can see now the development
over a period of time, how Charlie now is turning.
You wouldn't have believed that Charlie Kirk would speak like this.
I was surprised when I started seeing these clips, and
then I started connecting the dots. Now, during a recent
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interview with Ben Shapiro, which was two days before Kirk
was assassinated, Kirk paused as the Devil's advocate, and he
was questioning under the guise of some people, say by
insinuating that Israel's siege of Gaza was a carefully planned genocide.
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Now this visibly frustrated Shapiro. If you watch it, the
guy looks evil. Shapiro looks evil. But when Charlie Kirk
pauses the question, and I'm gonna play the clip. But
up until this point, the red carp treatment was rolled
out from Kirk. You know for Shapiro because of his
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unquestionable support for Israel. Now, the remainder of the interview
involved Shapiro going on a fifteen minute defensive rant. Were
you know the annoyance that the questions Charlie paused was
readily apparent in his tone on Some believe that this
was sort of the final straw for Israel, who then
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considered Kirk a liability since he had such a large
fan base and he would cause all supporters to look
into Israel's actions and motives. So here's the clip.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
One thing a friends sending me interestingly, which is okay, Charlie,
We've pushed backed against the media on COVID, on lockdowns,
on Ukraine, on the border. It's like, maybe we should
also ask a question is the media totally presenting the
truth when it comes to Israel?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Just a question?
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You know that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says,
because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot
more critical questions the last.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Couple of years.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
So Ben, some people would accuse Israel of wanting to
ethnically cleanse.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
When Charlie says that to Shapiro, they efinitely cleanse. Bit Wow,
you should see his face. Like I said, I mean,
Shapiro looks evil. He is evil, but he looks it
as well like Netta Na who look at those guys,
they look really, really evil. You can see the evil
on them. And when Charlie Kirk poses that question to him,
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you can tell the anger rising up with him. Ben Shapiro,
so you can sort of see now the common thread.
He's got massive funding. Like I said, it's not all
from Jewish backers and have not fully investigated it all,
but a large amount of money from Jewish backers or
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Christians quote who also Zionists, So it's coming from that
sort of source. Zionist money's funding this organization Turning Point USA,
and he's received large sums of money. Charlie has done
very well out of this, right, So now these funders
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are looking at this. He's now turning He's criticizing Israel,
he's criticizing Jewish donors. He's becoming dangerous. He's got a
large fan base, particularly a youth fan base, and like
I said, they hang on his every word some people,
and they may then have started looking in to Israel
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and their actions, and obviously they don't want to be
brought to the light. Do the because evil men like
to do things in the darkness, and Israel wants, you know,
all their actions kept in the darkness. That's why there's
like a media blackout. Obviously, we snippets of information coming
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out of the one sort of well, I want to
call it an interview, but a guy speaking I've seen
a video on Instagram yesterday who was a doctor. He
was speaking in Ireland, think he was an Englishman, and
he was on about how the starving babies, the starving
Palestinian babies, and what he said was he held a
picturep of this particular child that had been starved to death.
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And what they're doing is people are bringing in formula,
child's milk, formula in bags and everything, and when the
idea for stopping them at the border, they're emptying the bags,
they're taking out the baby formula and only the baby formula,
and they're letting them take everything else. In horrific. I
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don't know how anyone can support this modern state of Israel.
And if you're a Christian or a professing Christian and
you support the modern state of Israel, you really need
to have a word with yourself because the modern state
of Israel is utterly evil, starving babies on purpose, IDF
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soldiers taking out infant's formula so they starved to death,
taking it out of people's bags so they can't get
it to them. These are the people we're dealing with.
This is the level of evil that we're dealing with.
And remember Mossad's motto, by way of deception, do war.
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That's what it's all to do with. The Talmud teaches
them that to lie to the Goyam were the Goyam,
non Jews of Goyam, Mossad, by way of deception, do war.
Charlie had started now to criticize Jewish money had been
flowing in to Turning Point USA, or Christian Zionist money
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had been flowing into Turning Point USA. And Charlie was
now obviously being seen as biting the hand that feeds him,
and they took him out. That's what it's looking like.
It's looking like the fingerprints of Israel are all over this.
Now they're covering this up. But there was a shooter.
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Someone fired that shot and murdered Charlie Kirk. We don't
know who that individual is, but God knows who he
is something else to take into our considerations when considering
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this assassination and who's done it. The day before his assassination,
Charlie went off reservation during an interview on Turning Point
Usay by openly demanding the release of all the Epstein
files with no redaction of names. Wow, you can see,
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can't you? What's going on here and who's behind this?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work this out,
because apparently three hours after Charlie was assassinated, the US
Senate voted to keep the Epstein file basically closed, all
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the names not to be released, to suppress them. Now,
just let that sinking devoted to suppress the release of
these names. This is the level of evil that people
are dealing with. That we know what Jeffrey had Epstein
were up to. We know that it was a compromise operation.
That's clear that he was a Mossad agent. You can
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go on the FBI vault. I've got all the files
downloaded from there, and in there it even tells you
that Epstein belonged to intelligence because when he was arrested
for sexual assault of a minor, basically the judge was told,
you know, give him a slap on the wrist because
he belongs to intelligence. It's in the FBI documents. So
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Charlie kirks demanding, you know, the release of all these
Epstein files one day before he was shot, and then
on the day he was shot, the US Senate voted
to block the release of all these names. So I
once actually move on now and look at our response
as a Christian, how should we view this? How should
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we analyze it? How should we respond to it? Well,
first of all, God is sovereign. He is in ultimate control.
No matter what it looks like. God is in ultimate control,
even of tragic events. Nothing happens outside of his will. Nothing.
This doesn't mean that God is the author of evil,
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but is sovereignly allows events, and he uses them for
his purposes, and he sustains his people through them. And
you can read you know, Romans Chapter eight, verse twenty eight,
Acts two twenty three to twenty four, Isaiah forty five
to verse seven. Okay, so that bullet that hit Charlie
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was all in God's will. Believe it or not. Now
you might be shot by that statement. Charlie had a
day when he was going to leave this scene of
time just like you and I have got one. There's
a day come in when you'll die and I'll die.
And it's not whether will die, it's a fact of
we will die. It's just what method. Charlie's method, the
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method used to remove with Charlie from this world moving
from one world to the next was a bullet to
the neck. Yours might be cancer or a heart attack.
I might you know, dying. We could die in car crashes.
There's all kinds of methods causes of death, but they're
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not the reason for death. Now you might be thinking
that's a comical statement to say, what do you mean
it's the same thing, Well, no, it isn't. A cause
is something like cancer, heart attack. You know. Charlie's was
he got shot in the neck. So the cause was
the bullet hit ing and he died because he bled out.
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But the reason is because of sin. The Bible teaches
us that the wages of sin is death. So that's
why that's the reason every single one of us die.
So because of sin, you know, this is the sinfulness
of humanity. Because of sin, human beings have fallen and
the capable of committing extreme acts of violence. You know,
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hatred political violence. So this reflects, doesn't it, the broken
state of our world, This assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's
demonstrating the broken state of this wicked world, this fallen world.
And we need to remember that all human life is
made in the image of God, and to kill a
human unjustly is a grave sin. And even when we
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deeply appose someone's views, their life still press us. And
know that's hard to take when someone's saying things that
you hate. You might hate some of the things that
people say, but their lives precious as well. And the
Bible calls for justice. Evil deeds should be punished, victims
should be cared for, and wrong should be addressed. Authorities
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have the responsibility to maintain order and punish wrongdoing, and
Christians are called to love their enemies, bless those who persecute,
and forgive them. Now, this doesn't mean ignoring evil or
failing to demand justice, but responses must avoid hatred and vengeance,
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and vengeance is the lords. The Lord says vengeance's mind
were also to speak the truth in love. Public discourse
by Christians should resist slander, false conspiracy, and excessive partisan demonization.
We must insist on reliable information, not speculation or unchecked accusation.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
What about sort of.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Ethical and practical implications. So drawing from those convictions is
what our response should really look like in practice. So
condemn violence outright. So political violence is antithical to biblical
vision of how we treat one another unjustly. Killing is
a sain even if the victim is someone whose views
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we strongly disagree with. We to grieve with those who
more offer prayers and come for the family. So pray
for Charlie Kirk's wife and his children. We don't pray
for Charlie because Charlie is dead. Pray also for the
country of the United States, that this tragedy would awaken hearts.
And what I would say is that God will bring
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some good out of this. And that's a fact because
there's going to be people who didn't know who Charlie
Kirk was who were going to go on and listen.
And like I said, he did start talking about Jesus.
He has spoken about him, and he was a professing Christian.
I don't know his state, I don't know his heart
before God. I'm just a human being. I don't know
enough about him. I've heard him say things, good things,
(55:35):
but you know what, saying good things doesn't mean you're
a Christian. But hopefully he was, and hopefully he's in
heaven now. So we all saw to pursue justice. Okay,
support the investigation, legal accountability. We want, obviously a proper investigation,
but we know there's going to be problems there, don't we.
We must demand that the authorities follow due process, Encourage
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public institutions to prevent violens so campus security, you know,
make sure it's in place for the freedom of assembly.
And we should reject politicizing the tragedy, So avoid using
this event simply as a political wedge or to inflame
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further division. Resist unverified claims conspiracies, ask for evidence before
attributing motives. So like I've played some clips, I said, oh,
Charlie's been saying things about Israel without providing evidence. No,
I played the clips. We need to promote civil discourse
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and repentance. So we call on leaders and citizens to
reckon with how inflammatory rhetoric and demonization of opponents contribute
to an environment where political violence becomes unthinkable. So we
need to make that unthinkable. We need to make it
not even an option. Encourage repentance where speech has been unloving, harsh,
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or dehumanizing, and that's a big deal. Dehumanizing you know,
other people, and that's what that's what the Jews are
doing to the Palestinians. They've completely dehumanized them. That's what
the pro abortionist due to the unbowinged. They dehumanize them,
and that's why they're able to kill them.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
You see.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
They take away the humanity makes them feel better because
then they think, well, I'm not murdering anyone. And that's
what the Jews are like. They call us go in
with cattle, you see, so they can kill us because well,
we're not really human. They've dehumanized us. And we're also
to maintain hope in Christ. Reaffirm that our ultimate hope
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is not in political power or ideal systems, but in
Jesus Christ and his kingdom. And use this event to
point people to the gospel, you know, exposing sin, talk
about redemption, justice and transformation. Ultimately, that's what we need
to do. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
If you're a.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Christian, your purpose is to glorify God and enjoy them forever. Right,
that's the chief end of man and your purpose while
you're here is to tell people. I'm not saying you
go out onto the streets preaching, but you tell people
the gospel, right and this for you guys, especially over
in the United States there, you've got the opportunity now
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when people are talking about this, to tell people, you know, yeah,
we do live in a fallen world. This was wicked.
This man's dead, it's tragic. You might not agree with
some of the things, but guess what there is hope.
Tell them about the Lord then, and we need to self,
you know, examine. So Christians who supported or cheered harsh
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rhetoric should examine whether they contributed even indirectly to the hostility.
And we should reflect on whether, you know, our own
speech or political alignments or activism aligns with Christ's call.
And I would say that if you go to a
church that they are aligning themselves with the modern state
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of Israel that is not aligned to Christ's call because
they are Antichrist. If your church is supporting Israel, they're
supporting an Antichrist. They hate Christ, they absolutely hate him.
Jews hate Jesus. I've told you before. They say that
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he's in hell boiling in human excrements. They say that
he is the mother of a whore who had sex
with a Roman soldier, and his father was a Roman
soldier and he was a bastard. That is what they say,
even Muslims, except that Jesus was born of a virgin.
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Christians have more in common with Muslims than they do
with Jews. But the Jews want you to obviously focus
on the Muslims. They do it over here. Got an
agent provocateur called Tommy Robinson real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon,
funded by Israel to constantly focus on Muslims. Now, I'm
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not saying Muslims are saved and not. They need to
believe in Jesus and come through Jesus Christ to God.
But at least they believe that he was a prophet,
so they get a little tick in the box for that.
Jews reject him as a prophet, they reject him as everything,
but Muslims at least accept that he was born of
a virgin and did he as a prophet. So we
need to reflect on whether you know things that we
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support are actually Antichrist. We need to really examine ourselves.
That's something you need to do daily. And there's a
few sort of tensions here, isn't there or paradoxes that
a Christian will need to navigate. So how do we
balance the need for justice with a call toual of
enemies when political convictions are strong, avoiding reducing the person
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to their political life identity. So don't do that, guys.
Don't reduce a human being to a simple identity like
this political identity. Right, They're a human being. I know
it's difficult. I'm not saying it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
It is difficult, right, And we're not to minimize the
seriousness of the views or the consequences, but also not
use them to excuse violence. So you know, we can't say, well,
Charlie Kirk, he he didn't like gaze or something like that,
like they try and say, which is not true. Obviously,
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he spoke out against the gay lifestyle, but it's not
the fact that he hated gays. But that's what they say.
So he hates gays, so therefore is a prime target,
and his a legitimate target. We're not to excuse violence
in any way just because someone has views that we
don't like, Okay, And we need to avoid despair and
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cynicism while not being naive about the depth of the
brokenness in this world. Right, but you get a lot
in the conspiracy circles the truth of community. Like I've
said before, who aren't Christians? And they talk like Satan's
in complete control. Satan is used by God. Right, go
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to the Book of Job. Satan presents himself before the
Lord and God gives him permission to do certain things,
even kill Job's children. Now there's the sovereignty of God
in play. Is God unjust? No, he's not. There's no
oneus justice in God. Like I said the wages of
Sin his death. God is sovereign. The late RC Sprawl
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used to say, there is no Maverick molecule in the
entire universe. Now, human beings don't like the sovereignty of God.
They can't stand it because we like to think that
we're in control, and we're not. But we are responsible
for our actions. And these wicked men who took part
in this. Obviously there's gonna be numerous people who have
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took part in this assassination, the planning of it, you know,
the person who supplied the weapon, the person who took
the shot. They're all responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
And what I would say is this, we don't know
who these people are, but God knows their names, he
knows their addresses, he knows where they are right now.
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He even knows what they're thinking, and he knows what
they're gonna do next. And these are the facts. Jesus
Christ will come again. This is a fact. Don't despair.
If you're a Christian, he is gonna come. There is
gonna be a judgment day when He will judge all
men righteously and justly. No sentence will be passed that
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is unjust. And if you're in Christ, if you're saved,
you won't be condemned because you're already saved. But all
these wicked men, all these people fund wicked actions and
wicked causes, They're all going to be brought before Christ,
every single one. Consider that, now, think about it. Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Nettiyahu, Trump,
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Keir Starmer, Tony Blur. I could go on and on
and on, every single one of them, King Charles, King,
Henry the Eighth, We can go back centuries, King Herod,
Conscious Pilot, all of them, everyone who's ever lived will
face judgment by Jesus Christ and justice will be served
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final justice. Well, I hope guys that this has been informative.
Like I said, it is the start of an investigation.
I have got a guest in mind to bring on
who I can guarantee has more depth regarding this assassination.
So hopefully I can get him on next week and
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we can have an interview. He's a popular guest, people
have requested him, so I'm going to contact him and
hopefully get him on and we can sort of connect
some more dots because it is quite an important thing
that's happened. Obviously it's happened in the United States, but
it's a big deal. It's had reverberations around the world,
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and the fallout from this event will continue. So that's
it for me, guys. I'm Paul, and this is beyond
the paradigm my crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
We don't use that word in here. S
M You're here because you know something. What you know
you can't explain, but you feel it. You felt it
your entire life. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The matrix? I had dreams that weren't just dreams.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
We accept the reality of the world with which we're presented.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's as simple as that.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Billions of people just living out their lives.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Oblivious, they talks. You're good, Hey, do you believe their world?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
You can deny all the things I've seen, all the
things I've discovered, not for once long because too many
others know.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
What happening, and and no one.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
No government agency, has jurisdiction over the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Alone. Welcome to Beyond the Paradigm. I'm your host, Paul Breckel.
It is a pleasure to be back after missing a
week due to being extremely busy. So for you guys
who do listen to me a week after week, obviously
you must have been wondering what's going on. But just
due to time constraints, I wasn't able to record an episode.
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I had a few different things in mine, and to
be honest with you, I hadn't settled on what I
was going to talk about. But obviously in the light
of recent events on the tenth of September, I've now
got this sort of topic to speak about, which is
obviously going to be a massive rabbit hole. But for
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those of you that are in new to this podcast, welcome.
What can you expect, Well, you can definitely expect to
have your worldview challenged. As I've said many times before,
since starting this podcast, I've had my worldview challenged. And
some things that are once thought were true and now
are not true. And other things that are one's thought
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weren't true, I now know are true. And the purpose
of the podcast is simply this to point men to
the wonderful light of Jesus Christ, whilst exposing the darkness
in this world, the darkness and the wickedness and the
evil men behind the scenes who were pulling the strings
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so to speak, humanly speaking of course, and also just
the reality that wickedness is actually within all of us,
that every single one of us is fallen, and like
Jesus said, out of the heart comes blasphemys, murders, lies,
all these things. It comes from within and not from without. Now,
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we're going to talk about today, this initial sort of
assessment of mine, I've done a little bit of an
investigation into it, like I said, and one man and
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I've got limited time, but I have done a bit
of an investigation. And obviously the topic is regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happened on the tenth of September.
And for those of you outside the United States, you
might think, well, why why is this even relevant. Well,
I'm gonna demonstrate you why the assassination this man is
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relevant to everyone around the world, whether you knew who
he was or not. Now, firstly, what I want to
say is is that my familiarity with Charlie Kirk is
very very limited. I came across him on short Instagram videos,
and I've just read little bits about him before, but
basically what I've seen of him my own personal experience was,
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first of all, he was pro life, so I used
to see quite a lot of videos where obviously he
was talking about abortion, which I agreed with him on. Obviously,
being a Christian and pro life and anti abortion, so
I agreed with him on that. But in particular, most
of the videos that seemed to come into my feed
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was in being basically a Zionist, a Christian Zionist. He
claimed to have been a Christian, and he was definitely
pro Israel. So my view of him wasn't particularly positive
in the sense that I disagreed with the things he
was saying regarding Palestinians, and obviously the situation there in Gaza.
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I disagreed with him strongly on it, and I have
actually heard some abhorrent things what he've said. I recently
heard a clip where he made sort of a joke
about gaze where he said that, well, I used to
think that gaze in Palestine would be thrown off tall buildings,
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but they've no longer got any tall buildings, and then
he says too soon, and then he says, stupid Muslims. Basically,
you shouldn't, you know, mess with the bull or you'll
get the horns. I mean, I just find that particularly
a borrn. So that's my personal experience of Charlie Kirk,
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obviously being over here in the UK. I've never seen
him in person, never spoken to him. I've just seen videos,
so I don't know him, and I'm just giving you
my own personal experiences, my limited sort of exposure to
Charlie Kirk. But for those of you that don't know
who he is, he was essentially a political activist who
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was the head of a organization, if you want to
call it, that called Turning Point USA, and it was
a so called right wing conservative sort of organization pro Trump.
And he used to go around and he used to
go to universities and speak to the university students and
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he'd sit there and he'd field questions from them on
various topics. Like I said, most of the ones I've
seen were regarding abortion or to do with the Israel Palestine.
But he commented on a lot of things, and I
have seen videos of him where he does talk about
Jesus and tells people that they must believe in him,
which is obviously positive. So they're just recent things that
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I've seen since investigating this. They didn't sort of used
to come into a newsfeed for some reason. But anyway,
I've seen him recently on videos where he talks about
Jesus and everything, so that is obviously a thumbs up
and a positive. Now, let's be clear, nobody should be shot.
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Nobody should be killed because they perhaps have views that
you don't like. First of all, this man, he was
a human being, so he was created in the image
of God, just like you and just like me. He
was a father, he had two small children, He was
a husband, and obviously he was a son. He had parents,
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and no matter what, murder is wrong, and this man
was murdered. Let's make no mistake about that. He was
shot and killed, cold blooded murder in public, in front
of his children, his wife, and all these other people
that were attending his event. His children, one of them
I think was only like born last year. I think
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he had two little girls. And apparently when the shot
went out, his daughter went to him because she didn't
like the noise. So let's take a moment to just
reflect on that that this man was a human being.
Now his wife has no husband, and them children have
no father. So no matter what else we think about
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things he said, what he stood for, or anything, we
need to keep that in mind. And nobody, you know,
should forget that because it is her human tragedy. And
like I said, he was murdered, and that is clearly
against the sixth Commandment. Now, in the King James version
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which I read, it says thou shalt not kill. But
we need to elaborate on that just a little bit
before we get more into this little investigation here. So
the Hebrew word that is used there is well, I'm
not going to pronounce it because I probably can't pronounce it,
but i'll spell it. It's r A t s ach
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and it's more precisely translated as murder rather than the
broader sense of kill. So you shall not murder. Basically,
that's the sixth commandment, and it means basically, it's forbidding
the unlawful taking of human life. It does not forbid
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or killing, for example, just war, self defense, or capital punishment,
because they treated differently in the Bible. And obviously these
are debated among Christians. But I believe in capital punishment.
I believe in capital punishment for rapists, pedophiles.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
For murderers.
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Now, the reform tradition which I'm part of and large
is on the obviously ten Commandments in the Westminster Larger Catechism.
So I just want to read what it says about
the sixth Commandment so we fully understand why this was evil,
what happened, And just to sort of debunk any people
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who are saying, well, the Bible says, you know you
shouldn't kill, but you know it tells you that you
execute people for this, that and the other. Like I've
just said there, it doesn't forbid killing for just war
or self defense or capital punishment. It forbids the unlawful
taking of human life, which is murder. Now, the Westminster
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Larger Catechism, the question one hundred and thirty five says
what other duties required in the six Commandment. It says
the duties required are all careful studies and lawful endeavors
to preserve the life of ourselves and others by resisting
all thoughts and purposes, subduing all passions, and avoiding all occasions, temptations,
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and practices which tend to the unjust taking away the
life of any by just defend thereof against violence, patient
bearing of the hand of God, quietness of mind, cheerfulness
of spirit, a sober use of meat, drink, physic sleep,
labor and recreations, by charitable thoughts, love, compassion, meekness, gentleness, kindness, peaceable,
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mild and courteous speeches and behavior forbearings, readiness to be reconciled,
patient bearing and forgiving of injuries, and requiring good for evil,
comforting and succoring the distress, and protecting and defending the innocent.
Hundred and thirty six. What are the sins forbidden? In
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the sixth Commandment? The sins forbidden are all taken away
the life of ourselves or of others, except in the
case of public justice, lawful war, unnecessary self defense, the
neglecting or withdrawing of the lawful and necessary means of
preservation of life. Sinful anger, hatred, envy, desire of revenge,
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all excessive passions, distracting cares in, moderate use of meats, drink,
labor and recreations, provoking words, oppression, quarreling, striking, wounding, and
whatsoever else tends to the destruction of the life of any.
So Hopefully that clears it up. And there's a lot
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to think about. There isn't there regarding the preservation of
our own lives and other peoples. So let's look at
the official narrative, and as usual, I will always tell
you straight up, the official narrative is not true. So
police have identified this guy called Tyler Robinson, aged twenty two,
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and he's apparently the assassin who fatally shot Charlie Kirk
at Utah Valley University on the tenth of September. Robinson
has been charged with aggravated murder, fell in a discharge
of a firearm causing serious bodily injury, and obstruction of justice. Now,
law enforcement have confirmed that Robinson was living with a
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transgender roommate. That's a common thing that's coming out now,
this transgender, transgender shooters or links to transgender and apparently
communications between the two helped the FEDS catch the alleged assassin. Now, apparently,
Robinson's dad allegedly turned him in after seeing footage of
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the suspect fleeing the scene of the crime, the scene
of the shooting, obviously jumping off the roof running away,
and he said that apparently he'd recognized this as being
his son, so he turned him in. Now what they
want us to believe is is this character Robinson did.
He climbed up this drain pipe, got onto this roof,
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changed his clothes, and there was this rifle there for him. Yeah,
and with one shot he killed Charlie Kirk, then got
changed out of the clause back into his other ones
and fled the scene of the crime. Ridiculous. And I'm
going to explain to you why it's ridiculous, even just
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from a military perspective. So first of all, right, I
want to know why we got the rifle, but more importantly,
Worre did his zero his rifle, because it's not that simple.
You can't just buy a rifle, stick a scope on
it and shoot someone from approximately two hundred yards and
hit them straight away if you're not training and you've
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never used that rifle. And like I said, I've been
in the army, and I know for a fact that
this story is not true, just by the fact that
they want us to believe that this guy with no
training shot Charlie Kirk in the neck one shot and
killed him. Now, for those of you that have never
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been in the army, there were marksmanship principles and in
the British Army were taught five marksmanship principles. So number
one is the position and hold must be firm enough
to support the weapons. So your body position must provide
a stable platform so the rifle is properly supported without
unnecessary strain. Number two is the weapon must point naturally
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at the target without undue physical efforts, so the aim
should align naturally with the target. You shouldn't have to
force it into position. Number three is site alignment and
the site picture must be correct, so the sites must
be aligned properly and the correct site picture must be
maintained consistently. Number four is the shot must be released
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and followed through without undue disturbance to the position. So
the trigger should be pressed smoothly, and you must maintain
position after the shot to ensure accuracy. And the shot
must be observed and if necessary, corrected, so the firing
must watch where the shot goes and are just if
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needed for the next round. So when you zero win
in you're there at the rifle range. You take a shot,
so where you're looking. Let's see it doesn't hit that say,
it hits to the left, So you're now going to
have to adjudgy sites to the right, So you might
do two clicks to the right, let's say, but let's
say the heights correct, so you're hitting the correct height,
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but it's off to the left, so you're having some
judgy site. Now, then you fire another shot and you
thing must still slightly. I'll give it one more click,
so you're having to zero your weapon. But we're expected
to believe that this character Robinson got this rifle and
just fired it and he'd never fired it before, and
he's shot and killed Charlieka with one shot. Absolutely ridiculous.
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So that's the suspect that they've got this Tyler Robinson.
Now there's a few people, well a couple of people.
I just want us to take cognizance of regarding this incident.
So I don't know if any of you have seen
the footage, but there was this character who jumped up
and said I've shot him, shoot me, and he was arrested. Now,
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this guy was a guy called George Zin, and the
Utah County Sheriff Michael Smith said that George Zen he'd
admitted to police that he yelled that he was the
shooter to allow the actual suspect to flee. Now Zin
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as previously been in a documentary regarding nine to eleven,
and on the documentary he talks about how he witnessed
the attacks in New York on September the eleventh. Not
only that, in twenty thirteen, Zin was charged with one
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count of making terroristic threats of the second degree felony
after he emailed the Salt Lake Sitting Marathon requesting to
help place bombs at the marathons finish line. And obviously
that's in light of the Boston Marathon bombing.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
It was after that.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
George Zin is an Ashkenazi Jew and that will be
relevant and you'll realize why it's relevant as we go
on in this episode. There's also another person of interest,
and that is a lady by the name of Astrid
Tuminez and she is the president of the Utah Valley
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University where Charlie Kirk was shot. She has also been
a program officer at the Carnegie Corporation of New York.
Why do I mention that, well, the Carnegie Corporation funds
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a lot of Jewish interests. Not only that, Astrid Tuminees
is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and
she's also on Mormon. Now you may be thinking why
I'm mentioning these two people. Well, do a little bit
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of digging, guys, and start connecting some dots. Like I said,
this is an initial sort of investigation into what's gone
on here. Obviously, more information's gonna come out, and I'm
going to provide you with information and hopefully you guys
out there can help me as well, and you guys
can go away and investigate. So look into this, George
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Zin and Astrid Tumenez. And something else to take into
consideration is that the first news outlet or first media corporation,
whatever you want to call them, to report Charlie Kirk's
death was the Jerusalem Post. They reported it the time
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for September twenty twenty five, at twelve to fifty four
Utah time, in an article titled conservative commentator Charlie Kirk
assassinated in Utah Valley University shooting. So they reported that
at twelve fifty four Charlie Kirk was shot at twelve
twenty three, So thirty one minutes after Charlie Kirk was
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shot and killed, the Jerusalem Post had written an article
and published it, and there's also been people commenting on
two particular guys who were seen apparently giving hand signals
right before Charlie Kirk was shot. Now, there was a
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guy in I think he was in a black T shirt.
I don't know who that is. But there is a
guy stood there and he's got a white baseball cap on.
He's wearing glasses. I think he's got a white T
shirt on or a white polo shirt. And he's seen
touching the peak of his cap and then he rubs
his nose. And people are saying that this guy al
he's signaling to the shooter to shoot. Well, I don't
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believe that at all, because I know who the guy is.
This guy is called Frank Treurek, and he is a
Christian apologist and his organization is called Cross Examined. Now
his theological position on a few things I don't agree with,
but he is a Christian apologist. He is a clever guy,
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and he goes to universities as well, and he speaks
to students and everything, and he fields questions. He doesn't
do it like Charlie sort of sat outside. He'll be
on a stage and he'll answer questions and everything, and
he has quite a powerful testimony because his mother actually
conceived him in rape, so he was a rape baby
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and his mom kept him and he talks about this.
So this guy, Frank Sharek, was a friend of Charlie
Kirks and he was there and people are going he
was signaling to the shooter. I don't believe that. Like
I said, he's a Christian apologist. I don't agree with
everything he says, some of his theological positions, but he
does answer some questions in it correctly, as I think,
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and quite cleverly in a lot of circumstances. So for
those of you that see the video and see this
guy in why it is Frank Scharek, and I don't
believe that he has any involvement at all. And another
thing that people are talking about is sort of symbolism.
And one of the things that's been spoken about is
the fact that the suspect was reportedly caught and arrested
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after thirty three hours, and apparently it was said in
a press conference, can't remember who the guy is, but
apparently he emphasized that the guy was this Tyler Robinson
was caught after thirty three hours, and obviously The number
thirty three is relevant to the Scottish writer freemasonry because
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normally the scottis Right only has thirty two normal degrees,
but the thirty third is a special sort of degree
which is conferred only on select members. So people are
saying that the sort of signaling that this was, you know,
a ritualistic killing by them saying, oh, you know this
number thirty three that.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The suspect was caught after thirty three hours.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
M m.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Mm.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Following the money is always a smart thing to do
when we're looking into something like this, like this desperate
assassination of this man.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Charlie Kirk.
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So that's what we're gonna do. We're gonna follow the money.
So I'm gonna look at some of the major funders
of Turning Point USA. I'm not gonna talk about all
of them that I've found, because some of them I'm
still looking into them, but I'm just gonna give sort
of some brief background into some of them. So you've
got the Marcus Foundation, which is Bernie Marcus was the
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sort of founder. He was Jewish. It's publicly known and
he's one of the largest known donors, and they've given
over one point five million dollars, and that was between
twenty fifteen and twenty eighteen. Then you have the ed
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Uline Family Foundation, which they're a Christian organization. Apparently I
haven't done a great deal of investigation into these, but
they apparently donated seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars between
twenty fourteen and twenty eighteen. Then you have a guy
called Gary ray Bean. He's apparently a Christian. When I
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say Christian, I'm using this loosely. This is what these
people are saying. I don't know if they really are,
but he's massively pro Israel and he was an early
business donor to Turning Point USA. There's also the Tracking Foundation,
which is Stephen Feinberg, Jewish, contributed eight hundred thousand dollars
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between twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen. Some other names. Bernard Marcus,
co founder of Home Depot, major Republican and pro Israel
donner he's now dead, bought two point one million dollars
to Turning Point USA via the Marcus Family Foundation between
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twenty fifteen twenty nineteen, and it's been described that they
have heavy ongoing support. They're a long time backer of
anything that's sort of youth focused conservatism and Israel advocacy.
Can you see a pattern forming here? Guys, Miriam Adelson,
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widow of casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, billionaire pro Israel philanthropist
direct donations reported offered major funding infusions tied to pro
Israel alignment, and the support emphasized Turning Point USA's role
in conservative politics and recent reports no potential pullback and
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made some of Kirk's Israel criticisms. I'm going to speak
about that later. And then you've got Paul Singer, who's
a hedge fund billionaire and pro Israel donor donations are
confirmed by reports part of a broader funding to conservative
youth groups and then focused on foreign policy and Republican
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causes linked to Turning Point usay's pro Israel events. But
the rabbit all that you need to look into, guys,
is Donor's Trust. So Donor's Trust is apparently a mixed conservative, quote, Christian,
and Jewish or backers, whatever you want to call them. Now,
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Donor's Trust is an anonymous dark money conduit and large
sums of money passed through to Turning Point USA, And
like I said, it's dark money and it's anonymous, so
the actual funders we don't know who they are. But
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Donor's Trust is given a lot of money to far
right organizations. Many of them were like anti Muslim organizations.
But I'm only scratching the surface here, and that's one
that I would say to people, have a look into
Donor's Trust when you've got some time, because that's going
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to be a deep rabbit hole. It's basically called the
dark money atm of you know, right wing conservatism, and
large sums. Don't know exactly how much, but large sums
of money we're given to Turning Point USA. Like I said,
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you know Turning Point USA. It's received funding from various
conservative sources and they all seem to be pro Israel,
though detailed sort of dournalists are not fully public due
to organizations nonprofit status and the use of donor advised funds.
But I've listed some of them based on sort of
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available reports. There are other ones that I could mention.
You know, there's the Linda and Harry Bradley Foundation. They
are apparently a Catholic group. There's other donors advised funds,
Vanguard Charitable, Schwab Charitable, et cetera. So you know this
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is going to be a rabbit all, isn't it? Following
the money. But like I said, if you want to
look into something looking to donors, trust So as you've
been picking up on a little common thread that's coming
up during this podcast episode Turning Point, USA was supported
and backed by Israel. Okay, not just Israeli donors, but
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he was backed by Israel, and his Israeli liaison was
Ben Shapiro of The Daily Wire. He was pro Israel,
was Kirk. He was pro due, pro Zionist. But apparently
ever since Trump's Epstein clarent list released the Barcle, sources
close to Kirk claim he began seeing Israel, Jews, and
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Trump in a different light and he was losing trust
in them being allies with America or even American at
all in case of the Jews living in the USA.
And his opinion alone wasn't the issue. It was the
fact that Kirk began dropping breadcumbs on He showed that
perhaps Israel and Jews were working against America and especially
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white people. And it's also reported that Kirk rejected an
offer from earlier this year from Netimyah, who Israel's Prime minister,
which was to arrange this massive infusion of Zionist money,
new money, one hundred and fifty million dollars infusion into
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Turning Point USA, which is America's largest youth association Conservative
youth association. Should I say now a long time friend
of Charlie Kirk who has remained anonymous, and I've read
a sort of report, who's done an interview or spoken
to this person, but he basically said that Charlie Kirk
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had said that he believed NAT and Yahoo was trying
to cory him into silence as he began to publicly
question Israel's overwhelming influence in Washington, and Charlie Kirk had
demanded more space to criticize it. And in weeks leading
up to his assassination, Kirk had come to lave the
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Israeli leader and he regarded him as a bullet. And
the source said that Kirk was disgusted by what he
witnessed inside the Trump administration when Nettema, who sought to
personally dictate the President's personal decisions, and weaponized Israeli assets
like billionaire donner Miriam Adelson to keep the White House
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firmly under his thumb. And according to Kirk's friend, who
also enjoyed access to President Donald Trump and he's inner circle.
Kirk strongly won Trump last June against bombing Iran on
Israel's behalf, and Charlie apparently was the only person who
did that, they said, and he recalls how Trump barked
at him in response and angrily shut him down in
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the conversation. And the source believes that the incident confirmed
in Kirk's mind that the president of the United States
has fallen under the control of a malign foreign power
and was leading his own country into a series of
disastrous conflicts. And by the following month, Kirk had become
the target of a sustained private campaign of intimidation and
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free floating fury by wealthy and powerful allies of Nettiyahu,
figures he described in an interview as Jewish leaders and stakeholders,
and he was said to be afraid of them. Now,
my personal opinion is is that I believe he's Jewish
backers believed he'd become dangerous, and he was going to
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become more dangerous because Charlie seemed to be changing in
his unwavering support for Israel, and a lot of the
youth listened to Charlie. He had a big following, and
a lot of these youths would hang on every word
that Charlie said, so he'd become dangerous to them. Now
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I'm going to play some clips, and this first clip
demonstrates how Charlie had begun, you know, to sort of
notice and then to criticize Jewish donors. Let's say, so,
this is the clip of Charlie Kirk demonstrating some criticism
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of Jewish donors.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
And Jewish donors they have a lot of explaining to do,
a lot of decoupling to do, because Jewish donors have
been the number one funding mechanism of radical open border
neoliberal quasi Marxist policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. This is
a beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming
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for Jews and they're like, what on earth happened? And
it's not just the colleges, it's the nonprofits, it's the movies,
it's Hollywood, it's all of it. It's like time for
you guys to wake up and say no more. Draw
one on the sand. I don't care if you hate me.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
So as you can see the obviously Charlie's view, he's
now starting to change. I never personally thought I would
hear Charlie Kirk say anything like what he's just said there,
because if any of you have listened to Charlie before,
I mean there's been you know, questions asked of him
and he just says things like I'm regarding Israel and
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he just says things like, yeah, there are greatest Ally,
you know, the Bible tells us that, you know, we've
got to support the Jews, when it doesn't say anything
of the sort. And the reference in Genesis chapter twelve
that I think I've said this before, but that's talking
to Abraham, God speaking to Abraham a person. The nation
of Israel didn't even exist. So this is a Christian
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Zionist heresy that Christians as to support Israel. Well, the
true Israel's biblical Israel. I'm speaking of is all believers
in Jesus Christ. And for those of you that are
familiar to this podcast, you know I've said this before,
and if you'll listen to my episode on dispensationalism, I
talk about that. But you know, Charlie here obviously it's
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quite strong criticism of Jewish dawn as you heard what
he said, and he calls it the beast, the beast
that's been created now. Kirk has also told co workers
at Turning Point USA that he had this meeting at
the White House which fell apart, and that Charlie Kirk,
he said he pleaded with Trump to walk back this
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unwavering military support for Israel, and he told him that
history would not look upon America fondly if they continued
aiding and excusing bloodshed against unharmed civilians in Gaza and
bombing Iran. And Trump apparently ended the meeting after yelling
at Kirk, and afterward, after the meeting, Kirk told sources
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close to him that Trump was obviously under the thumb
of a foreign nation and he'd lost a tremendous amount
of faith in him as the United States president. This
next clip is Charlika being interviewed by Patrick bet David
and he talks about these seventh of October attacks. So
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just I would listen to what Charlie says.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
He is quite.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
Revealing anytimes the whole country's a fortress. When I first
heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct
that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe.
I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go ten
feet without running into a nineteen year old with an
AR fifteen or an automatic machine gun as an IDF soldier. Right,
(39:33):
the whole country is surveilled. And so let me just
kind of go through this. We don't talk about Israeli
politics very often, and most Americans don't know this. The
last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war.
It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff. There were hundreds
of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because bb
Netnyahu is basically redefining the Israeli constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right.
(39:55):
He said, the judicial branch is too much power. There
were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated
tens of thousands of people to take to the streets.
That's all gone, Patrick, net Yahoo now has an emergency
government and a mandate to lead. I'm not willing to
say to go so far that saying that net Yahoo
knew or there was intelligence here, but I think some
(40:16):
questions need to be asked. Was there a stand down order?
Was there a stand down order six hours? I don't
believe it Israel's the side of size of New Jersey.
When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the
Gaza border, it's forty five minutes, six hours they're live
streaming the killing of Jews. Was did somebody in the
(40:38):
government say stand down? That is a legitimate, non conspiracy question.
The whole country is the IDEF. The whole country is
and you're trying to tell me that they're going to
concerts and kibbutz's and schools and.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
By well, I am willing to say that the walls
are standdown. I think you have to be a real
simple not to see that. Like he said, he's just
quoted there as saying the whole country's the IDF and
it's only a tiny place is Israel. And you know,
this killing of Jews by Hamas went on for all
(41:13):
these hours and there was no response to it. They
got through this border, you know, cut the way through
and all this lot and apparently you know, not even
a sparrow a bird can land on this fence without
the IDF knowing about it. But was supposed to believe
that Hamass got through there and slaughtered all these innocent
(41:38):
civilians and didn't know about it four hours later. It's
absolutely ridiculous. But you can see now. You can see
how Charlie is shifting. And Patrick bet David he's pro Israeli,
so can imagine he was during this interview, but he
was getting a bit nervous when Charlie was saying some
(41:59):
of these things. And you can see now the development
over a period of time, how Charlie now is turning.
You wouldn't have believed that Charlie Kirk would speak like this.
I was surprised when I started seeing these clips, and
then I started connecting the dots. Now, during a recent
(42:21):
interview with Ben Shapiro, which was two days before Kirk
was assassinated, Kirk paused as the Devil's advocate, and he
was questioning under the guise of some people, say by
insinuating that Israel's siege of Gaza was a carefully planned genocide.
(42:41):
Now this visibly frustrated Shapiro. If you watch it, the
guy looks evil. Shapiro looks evil. But when Charlie Kirk
pauses the question, and I'm gonna play the clip. But
up until this point, the red carp treatment was rolled
out from Kirk. You know for Shapiro because of his
(43:05):
unquestionable support for Israel. Now, the remainder of the interview
involved Shapiro going on a fifteen minute defensive rant. Were
you know the annoyance that the questions Charlie paused was
readily apparent in his tone on Some believe that this
was sort of the final straw for Israel, who then
(43:26):
considered Kirk a liability since he had such a large
fan base and he would cause all supporters to look
into Israel's actions and motives. So here's the clip.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
One thing a friends sending me interestingly, which is okay, Charlie,
We've pushed backed against the media on COVID, on lockdowns,
on Ukraine, on the border. It's like, maybe we should
also ask a question is the media totally presenting the
truth when it comes to Israel?
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Just a question?
Speaker 5 (43:55):
You know that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says,
because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot
more critical questions the last.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
Couple of years.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
So Ben, some people would accuse Israel of wanting to
ethnically cleanse.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
When Charlie says that to Shapiro, they efinitely cleanse. Bit Wow,
you should see his face. Like I said, I mean,
Shapiro looks evil. He is evil, but he looks it
as well like Netta Na who look at those guys,
they look really, really evil. You can see the evil
on them. And when Charlie Kirk poses that question to him,
(44:35):
you can tell the anger rising up with him. Ben Shapiro,
so you can sort of see now the common thread.
He's got massive funding. Like I said, it's not all
from Jewish backers and have not fully investigated it all,
but a large amount of money from Jewish backers or
(44:58):
Christians quote who also Zionists, So it's coming from that
sort of source. Zionist money's funding this organization Turning Point USA,
and he's received large sums of money. Charlie has done
very well out of this, right, So now these funders
(45:19):
are looking at this. He's now turning He's criticizing Israel,
he's criticizing Jewish donors. He's becoming dangerous. He's got a
large fan base, particularly a youth fan base, and like
I said, they hang on his every word some people,
and they may then have started looking in to Israel
(45:42):
and their actions, and obviously they don't want to be
brought to the light. Do the because evil men like
to do things in the darkness, and Israel wants, you know,
all their actions kept in the darkness. That's why there's
like a media blackout. Obviously, we snippets of information coming
(46:02):
out of the one sort of well, I want to
call it an interview, but a guy speaking I've seen
a video on Instagram yesterday who was a doctor. He
was speaking in Ireland, think he was an Englishman, and
he was on about how the starving babies, the starving
Palestinian babies, and what he said was he held a
picturep of this particular child that had been starved to death.
(46:26):
And what they're doing is people are bringing in formula,
child's milk, formula in bags and everything, and when the
idea for stopping them at the border, they're emptying the bags,
they're taking out the baby formula and only the baby formula,
and they're letting them take everything else. In horrific. I
(46:47):
don't know how anyone can support this modern state of Israel.
And if you're a Christian or a professing Christian and
you support the modern state of Israel, you really need
to have a word with yourself because the modern state
of Israel is utterly evil, starving babies on purpose, IDF
(47:11):
soldiers taking out infant's formula so they starved to death,
taking it out of people's bags so they can't get
it to them. These are the people we're dealing with.
This is the level of evil that we're dealing with.
And remember Mossad's motto, by way of deception, do war.
(47:34):
That's what it's all to do with. The Talmud teaches
them that to lie to the Goyam were the Goyam,
non Jews of Goyam, Mossad, by way of deception, do war.
Charlie had started now to criticize Jewish money had been
flowing in to Turning Point USA, or Christian Zionist money
(47:54):
had been flowing into Turning Point USA. And Charlie was
now obviously being seen as biting the hand that feeds him,
and they took him out. That's what it's looking like.
It's looking like the fingerprints of Israel are all over this.
Now they're covering this up. But there was a shooter.
(48:17):
Someone fired that shot and murdered Charlie Kirk. We don't
know who that individual is, but God knows who he
is something else to take into our considerations when considering
(49:03):
this assassination and who's done it. The day before his assassination,
Charlie went off reservation during an interview on Turning Point
Usay by openly demanding the release of all the Epstein
files with no redaction of names. Wow, you can see,
(49:24):
can't you? What's going on here and who's behind this?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work this out,
because apparently three hours after Charlie was assassinated, the US
Senate voted to keep the Epstein file basically closed, all
(49:44):
the names not to be released, to suppress them. Now,
just let that sinking devoted to suppress the release of
these names. This is the level of evil that people
are dealing with. That we know what Jeffrey had Epstein
were up to. We know that it was a compromise operation.
That's clear that he was a Mossad agent. You can
(50:07):
go on the FBI vault. I've got all the files
downloaded from there, and in there it even tells you
that Epstein belonged to intelligence because when he was arrested
for sexual assault of a minor, basically the judge was told,
you know, give him a slap on the wrist because
he belongs to intelligence. It's in the FBI documents. So
(50:27):
Charlie kirks demanding, you know, the release of all these
Epstein files one day before he was shot, and then
on the day he was shot, the US Senate voted
to block the release of all these names. So I
once actually move on now and look at our response
as a Christian, how should we view this? How should
(50:49):
we analyze it? How should we respond to it? Well,
first of all, God is sovereign. He is in ultimate control.
No matter what it looks like. God is in ultimate control,
even of tragic events. Nothing happens outside of his will. Nothing.
This doesn't mean that God is the author of evil,
(51:11):
but is sovereignly allows events, and he uses them for
his purposes, and he sustains his people through them. And
you can read you know, Romans Chapter eight, verse twenty eight,
Acts two twenty three to twenty four, Isaiah forty five
to verse seven. Okay, so that bullet that hit Charlie
(51:34):
was all in God's will. Believe it or not. Now
you might be shot by that statement. Charlie had a
day when he was going to leave this scene of
time just like you and I have got one. There's
a day come in when you'll die and I'll die.
And it's not whether will die, it's a fact of
we will die. It's just what method. Charlie's method, the
(51:58):
method used to remove with Charlie from this world moving
from one world to the next was a bullet to
the neck. Yours might be cancer or a heart attack.
I might you know, dying. We could die in car crashes.
There's all kinds of methods causes of death, but they're
(52:19):
not the reason for death. Now you might be thinking
that's a comical statement to say, what do you mean
it's the same thing, Well, no, it isn't. A cause
is something like cancer, heart attack. You know. Charlie's was
he got shot in the neck. So the cause was
the bullet hit ing and he died because he bled out.
(52:40):
But the reason is because of sin. The Bible teaches
us that the wages of sin is death. So that's
why that's the reason every single one of us die.
So because of sin, you know, this is the sinfulness
of humanity. Because of sin, human beings have fallen and
the capable of committing extreme acts of violence. You know,
(53:00):
hatred political violence. So this reflects, doesn't it, the broken
state of our world, This assassination of Charlie Kirk, it's
demonstrating the broken state of this wicked world, this fallen world.
And we need to remember that all human life is
made in the image of God, and to kill a
human unjustly is a grave sin. And even when we
(53:23):
deeply appose someone's views, their life still press us. And
know that's hard to take when someone's saying things that
you hate. You might hate some of the things that
people say, but their lives precious as well. And the
Bible calls for justice. Evil deeds should be punished, victims
should be cared for, and wrong should be addressed. Authorities
(53:47):
have the responsibility to maintain order and punish wrongdoing, and
Christians are called to love their enemies, bless those who persecute,
and forgive them. Now, this doesn't mean ignoring evil or
failing to demand justice, but responses must avoid hatred and vengeance,
(54:08):
and vengeance is the lords. The Lord says vengeance's mind
were also to speak the truth in love. Public discourse
by Christians should resist slander, false conspiracy, and excessive partisan demonization.
We must insist on reliable information, not speculation or unchecked accusation.
Speaker 4 (54:31):
What about sort of.
Speaker 3 (54:32):
Ethical and practical implications. So drawing from those convictions is
what our response should really look like in practice. So
condemn violence outright. So political violence is antithical to biblical
vision of how we treat one another unjustly. Killing is
a sain even if the victim is someone whose views
(54:54):
we strongly disagree with. We to grieve with those who
more offer prayers and come for the family. So pray
for Charlie Kirk's wife and his children. We don't pray
for Charlie because Charlie is dead. Pray also for the
country of the United States, that this tragedy would awaken hearts.
And what I would say is that God will bring
(55:15):
some good out of this. And that's a fact because
there's going to be people who didn't know who Charlie
Kirk was who were going to go on and listen.
And like I said, he did start talking about Jesus.
He has spoken about him, and he was a professing Christian.
I don't know his state, I don't know his heart
before God. I'm just a human being. I don't know
enough about him. I've heard him say things, good things,
(55:35):
but you know what, saying good things doesn't mean you're
a Christian. But hopefully he was, and hopefully he's in
heaven now. So we all saw to pursue justice. Okay,
support the investigation, legal accountability. We want, obviously a proper investigation,
but we know there's going to be problems there, don't we.
We must demand that the authorities follow due process, Encourage
(56:01):
public institutions to prevent violens so campus security, you know,
make sure it's in place for the freedom of assembly.
And we should reject politicizing the tragedy, So avoid using
this event simply as a political wedge or to inflame
(56:22):
further division. Resist unverified claims conspiracies, ask for evidence before
attributing motives. So like I've played some clips, I said, oh,
Charlie's been saying things about Israel without providing evidence. No,
I played the clips. We need to promote civil discourse
(56:42):
and repentance. So we call on leaders and citizens to
reckon with how inflammatory rhetoric and demonization of opponents contribute
to an environment where political violence becomes unthinkable. So we
need to make that unthinkable. We need to make it
not even an option. Encourage repentance where speech has been unloving, harsh,
(57:04):
or dehumanizing, and that's a big deal. Dehumanizing you know,
other people, and that's what that's what the Jews are
doing to the Palestinians. They've completely dehumanized them. That's what
the pro abortionist due to the unbowinged. They dehumanize them,
and that's why they're able to kill them.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
You see.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
They take away the humanity makes them feel better because
then they think, well, I'm not murdering anyone. And that's
what the Jews are like. They call us go in
with cattle, you see, so they can kill us because well,
we're not really human. They've dehumanized us. And we're also
to maintain hope in Christ. Reaffirm that our ultimate hope
(57:43):
is not in political power or ideal systems, but in
Jesus Christ and his kingdom. And use this event to
point people to the gospel, you know, exposing sin, talk
about redemption, justice and transformation. Ultimately, that's what we need
to do. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
If you're a.
Speaker 3 (58:02):
Christian, your purpose is to glorify God and enjoy them forever. Right,
that's the chief end of man and your purpose while
you're here is to tell people. I'm not saying you
go out onto the streets preaching, but you tell people
the gospel, right and this for you guys, especially over
in the United States there, you've got the opportunity now
(58:25):
when people are talking about this, to tell people, you know, yeah,
we do live in a fallen world. This was wicked.
This man's dead, it's tragic. You might not agree with
some of the things, but guess what there is hope.
Tell them about the Lord then, and we need to self,
you know, examine. So Christians who supported or cheered harsh
(58:46):
rhetoric should examine whether they contributed even indirectly to the hostility.
And we should reflect on whether, you know, our own
speech or political alignments or activism aligns with Christ's call.
And I would say that if you go to a
church that they are aligning themselves with the modern state
(59:09):
of Israel that is not aligned to Christ's call because
they are Antichrist. If your church is supporting Israel, they're
supporting an Antichrist. They hate Christ, they absolutely hate him.
Jews hate Jesus. I've told you before. They say that
(59:30):
he's in hell boiling in human excrements. They say that
he is the mother of a whore who had sex
with a Roman soldier, and his father was a Roman
soldier and he was a bastard. That is what they say,
even Muslims, except that Jesus was born of a virgin.
(59:50):
Christians have more in common with Muslims than they do
with Jews. But the Jews want you to obviously focus
on the Muslims. They do it over here. Got an
agent provocateur called Tommy Robinson real name Stephen Yaxley Lennon,
funded by Israel to constantly focus on Muslims. Now, I'm
(01:00:11):
not saying Muslims are saved and not. They need to
believe in Jesus and come through Jesus Christ to God.
But at least they believe that he was a prophet,
so they get a little tick in the box for that.
Jews reject him as a prophet, they reject him as everything,
but Muslims at least accept that he was born of
a virgin and did he as a prophet. So we
need to reflect on whether you know things that we
(01:00:35):
support are actually Antichrist. We need to really examine ourselves.
That's something you need to do daily. And there's a
few sort of tensions here, isn't there or paradoxes that
a Christian will need to navigate. So how do we
balance the need for justice with a call toual of
enemies when political convictions are strong, avoiding reducing the person
(01:00:59):
to their political life identity. So don't do that, guys.
Don't reduce a human being to a simple identity like
this political identity. Right, They're a human being. I know
it's difficult. I'm not saying it.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
It is difficult, right, And we're not to minimize the
seriousness of the views or the consequences, but also not
use them to excuse violence. So you know, we can't say, well,
Charlie Kirk, he he didn't like gaze or something like that,
like they try and say, which is not true. Obviously,
(01:01:32):
he spoke out against the gay lifestyle, but it's not
the fact that he hated gays. But that's what they say.
So he hates gays, so therefore is a prime target,
and his a legitimate target. We're not to excuse violence
in any way just because someone has views that we
don't like, Okay, And we need to avoid despair and
(01:01:56):
cynicism while not being naive about the depth of the
brokenness in this world. Right, but you get a lot
in the conspiracy circles the truth of community. Like I've
said before, who aren't Christians? And they talk like Satan's
in complete control. Satan is used by God. Right, go
(01:02:20):
to the Book of Job. Satan presents himself before the
Lord and God gives him permission to do certain things,
even kill Job's children. Now there's the sovereignty of God
in play. Is God unjust? No, he's not. There's no
oneus justice in God. Like I said the wages of
Sin his death. God is sovereign. The late RC Sprawl
(01:02:42):
used to say, there is no Maverick molecule in the
entire universe. Now, human beings don't like the sovereignty of God.
They can't stand it because we like to think that
we're in control, and we're not. But we are responsible
for our actions. And these wicked men who took part
in this. Obviously there's gonna be numerous people who have
(01:03:03):
took part in this assassination, the planning of it, you know,
the person who supplied the weapon, the person who took
the shot. They're all responsible for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
And what I would say is this, we don't know
who these people are, but God knows their names, he
knows their addresses, he knows where they are right now.
(01:03:24):
He even knows what they're thinking, and he knows what
they're gonna do next. And these are the facts. Jesus
Christ will come again. This is a fact. Don't despair.
If you're a Christian, he is gonna come. There is
gonna be a judgment day when He will judge all
men righteously and justly. No sentence will be passed that
(01:03:49):
is unjust. And if you're in Christ, if you're saved,
you won't be condemned because you're already saved. But all
these wicked men, all these people fund wicked actions and
wicked causes, They're all going to be brought before Christ,
every single one. Consider that, now, think about it. Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Nettiyahu, Trump,
(01:04:13):
Keir Starmer, Tony Blur. I could go on and on
and on, every single one of them, King Charles, King,
Henry the Eighth, We can go back centuries, King Herod,
Conscious Pilot, all of them, everyone who's ever lived will
face judgment by Jesus Christ and justice will be served
(01:04:37):
final justice. Well, I hope guys that this has been informative.
Like I said, it is the start of an investigation.
I have got a guest in mind to bring on
who I can guarantee has more depth regarding this assassination.
So hopefully I can get him on next week and
(01:04:57):
we can have an interview. He's a popular guest, people
have requested him, so I'm going to contact him and
hopefully get him on and we can sort of connect
some more dots because it is quite an important thing
that's happened. Obviously it's happened in the United States, but
it's a big deal. It's had reverberations around the world,
(01:05:18):
and the fallout from this event will continue. So that's
it for me, guys. I'm Paul, and this is beyond
the paradigm my crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
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