September 26, 2025 • 55 mins
Wild claims spread fast after the Charlie Kirk shooting — from “he’s not really dead” rumors to viral videos alleging a man in a white hat was secretly signaling the shooter. In this episode, we cut through the noise. We break down what’s confirmed, what’s fabricated, and why conspiracy theories catch fire in the first place. With expert insight and hard evidence, we debunk the myths and put the white hat theory to rest once and for all.Linksemail:beyondtheparadigm@yahoo.comBeyond the Paradigm - YouTubeinstagram.com/paradigm1979twitter.com/paradigm_79(1) FacebookSupport The Showpatreon.com/BeyondTheParadigmbuymeacoffee.com/beyondthep5
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
M You're here because you know something. What you know
you can't explain, but you feel it. You felt it
your entire life. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The matrix?
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I had dreams that weren't just dreams.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We accept the reality of the world with which we're presented.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's as simple as that. Billions of people just living
out their lives.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Oblivious.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
They talks. You're good, Hey, do you believe their world?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
You can deny all the things I've seen, all the
things I've discovered, not for once long because too many
others know what happening on there, and no one, no
government agency, has jurisdiction over the truth.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
All welcome to Beyond the Paradigm. I'm your host, Paul Brackel. Welcome.
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all kinds of conspiracies, all kinds of topics, all examined
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due to obviously, as you guys know who are regular listeners,
due to a change in micro circumstances with work, I
don't have the same schedule what I used to have,
so I'm finding it much more difficult to schedule times
with guests because I'm over here in the UK and
a lot of my guests are over there in the
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United States or summer in Canada, and I have interviewed
people who have been in other countries as well, including
over here in England and in Wales, so obviously the
UK same time zone. But the problem I'm having at
the minute is because I need to record earlier than
I used to because of my time schedule. I'm struggling
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with a lot of guests because some of them are
like seven, eight, nine hours behind me, so it is difficult.
So there has been more monologues than usual. But this
episode today is a follow on from what I did
last week. I had contacted somebody who I wanted to
get on and I'm yet to get a response from them,
but I do know that they are snored under with
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request and they are very very busy. But it is
a person who's been on here a number of times
and I was hoping to do a recording with them,
but unfortunately I haven't been able to do that, and
I actually mooted weather to not record anything at all,
but they decided to put this episode together. I've not
done a massive, in depth, deep dive on it. It's
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just a few things thoughts that I've got regarding this
sort of Charlie Kirk shooting, sort of what's happened after
some of the things that I've noticed, and just to
give you some information, guys, and hopefully you go away
and look into it. And I have had people contacting me,
I've had videos sent to me, and obviously there are
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a lot of theories circulating. But before I get into
the episode, kind of just mention again. You can follow
me on Instagram, and I know some of you do,
and there has been an increase in my followers. I
do post regularly on Instagram because Instagram is one of
them things you can put out a short video and
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it can get a lot of traction. And I have
had some videos that have had immense amounts of traction.
I put one particular one out the other week. It
had half a million views and it was ongoing. I
think it had I don't know over twenty or thirty
thousand likes, and then Instagram took it down because it
was seen as controversial. And the reality is the censor
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in me so some of my posts have been removed.
Now Interestingly, I'm permanently banned from TikTok. But I first
was on Instagram and I had a warning a couple
of times early onward. It suspended my account. Basically what
they did for ninety days, it was limited, so not
many people seen it. So it was limited and therefore
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I wasn't picking up any new followers. Basically, it was
just the followers that I had could see my content.
But just of recent I've posted a lot more things
on there and they haven't limited my account and I
have been gaining traction on there, but just a couple
of posts one in particular, recently they've took it down.
I've appealed it and now they haven't got back to
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me on the appeal. I've appealed to actual takedowns recently
and they've not got back to me on any but
they haven't suspended my accountter limited it anywhere. I find
it very very odd, but TikTok and permanently banned off there,
started getting some traction on there and they just completely
removed me after. I'm not allowed on again. I've tried
to create a new account, can't even create a new account.
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short videos. I've done one recently on who Ordered True Israel.
I've done one on about the increase believe it or
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not engrave robbery in England. So go on my YouTube
and have a look at that. I will be posting
some shorter videos on the over the coming weeks on
various topics, some that you'll most definitely find interesting. So anyway,
that's enough rambling on for me, so let's get into
this episode. So I just want to talk about a
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few things that have sort of come up over the
course of you know, the weeks since Charlie Kirk was
shot and some of the there is certain things that
keep cropping up, people keep saying. Now, the first one
I want to look at is this that there's people saying,
so this theory is circulating that Charlie's not dead, that
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basically his assassination was staged. Now, if you think this,
then you've never seen a person shot. You've never seen
a person be shot and killed or you've probably never
seen a dead body. So as soon as I saw
the video of him being shot and knew that he'd
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been killed instantly, and I've also seen footage of him
being hit from multiple different camera angles, and the way
his body contorts out of shot when the round hits
him and then his head rolls back and you see
his facing everything. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
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work out that he was killed instantly. And there's actual
exit wound, which is if you look, if you've seen
videos of him being shot, the exit wound is actually
in the front of his neck, sort of to the
left front of his neck. That is an exit wound.
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So you know, So they're saying, you know that he's
faked his death, and as far as I'm concerned, it's
just not even credible. It's not a credible theory. People
who were saying these things like to sensationalize, and they're
doing this because it gains them followers, and people like
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to think, oh, yeah, you know, it's a novel idea.
He hasn't been shot, he's faked, it's all been staged.
People seem to latch onto this, but there's no credit.
It's not even a credible theory. There's an exit wound
and blood's dribbling down his shirt at the front. Charlie
when he was shot. He was shot and he was killed.
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And there's even claims, and I've seen videos and someone
sent me a video as well, that Charlie wasn't actually there,
that it was like a projector. So there's some guy
after taking this camera down and people are saying that
it's a projector and that actually it was a hologram
of Charlie, that he wasn't actually there. Now, previously, Charlie
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was videoed interacting with people. So prior to him sitting down,
which is what Charlie did, he used to sit down
and answer questions and speak to people who used to
step up to the microphone speak to him. So prior
to that, he was videoed interacting with people. Okay, so
it's ridiculous to say that it was a projection. Again,
it's another novel idea and people will latch onto it.
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But as far as I'm concerned, it's ridiculous. Now one
that keeps cropping up. I've seen multiple videos on this
and he addressed it. Last time. It was about the
guy in the white baseball cap and saying that he's
giving hand signals to the shooter. And like I said
in the previous episode, I don't take this theory seriously
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for one minute. And I've had someone contact me and say,
you know, I know you saying that the guy in
the white baseball cap hasn't done it, but maybe you
should look into it. Well, this guy is called Frank Charek,
and I said it before, as a Christian apologist, is
the lead speaker for an organization called Cross Examined. He
goes to universities and he speaks to the youth, like
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Charlie used to do. But Frank goes and he's events
are indoors and he answers questions. Now I've said this previously.
I don't agree with everything Frank Charek has said his theology,
but he is pretty good. And he was Charlie's mentor,
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and he's actually said that Charlie was like a son
to him, and he was actually so people are saying
he was on the phone, you know, to like an
agent or whatever. He was actually on the phone to
his son at the time Charlie was shot. And what
I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna play a clip
of Frank talking right about the shooting. Now, if you
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see the actual video of this, you'll see how upset
Frank Chirek is. And this is no act I can
I can assure you he's not acting. He's not an actor,
and you can actually hear the sadness in his voice
as well. So here's the clip of Frank chire X
speaking about the shooting of Charlie Kirk, which he was
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an eyewitness of because he was stood very close to
Charlie and he ran to the suv when they were
carrying Charlie's body there.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Now here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday.
This is going to be the hard part, but maybe
also the comforting part. Charlie Kirk was literally like a
son to me. I have three sons. He was like
my fourth son. My three sons are a little bit
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older than Charlie. He was like my fourth son. So
when he was hit. If your son got hit, what
would you do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What would you do? I got in the car.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Because if there was any way I could save him,
I had to do something.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Nah, I couldn't just we'll you just take him.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You guys got it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So they got him into the side of the car.
It was an suv.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
It's the suv we took over, and I'm on one
side and there's actually some video that somebody's taking video
of this. I'm on one side of the car, the
right side, and they're getting Charlie in, so I run
over the other side. But the guy was dragging him
in the now blocking that entrance. So at that point
I run around to the back. I popped the top
the back gate open and I jump in the back.
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The car lurches forward. Apparently somebody jumped in the cars.
The car lurches forward, so I almost fall out of
the car, the suv. Then I grabbed the thing and
close it and there's five of us in the car.
Now Justin's driving. Dan is up front with the with
the GPS. Rick has got him. Rick's on my left,
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and Brian is there, and I'm coming over the back
seat and Charlie's laid out in front, just right in
front of me, and Charlie's so tall we can't we
can't close the door. We drove four miles someone I
don't know, it's four something miles all the way to
the hospital with the door open. To this day, I
don't know how Brian stayed in the car because we're.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Just go, go, go, go go.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
We're you know, we're trying to do. We're trying to
stop the bleeding. You saw it, and I'm yelling, come on, Charlie,
come on, come on. Meanwhile, my phone is still on.
My son and daughter in law hearing this whole thing,
and his security team again justin Dan, Bryan and Rick.
They love Charlie, but they were much cooler than I mean.
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They're just carrying out. They're calmly, but they're swiftly doing
exactly what they were trained to do. Rick starts praying
out loud. I'm praying out loud. We're yelling, come on,
let's go, let's go, let's go. My son's here and
all this, and we're doing the best we can to
navigate traffic.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
This's not a highway. We're on surface streets.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us, and there
was conversation in the car.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Should we stop. We're like, no, no, just keep going.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Just keep going. The doctor later said that was the
right thing to do. Ambulance goes by us, We're still
heading to the hospital, trying to get there. At one point,
somebody says, let's get there in one piece, because we're
just we're cutting through intersections, you know, we're just beeping
the horn. This is not an emergency vehicle. There's no
there's no lights, there's no one of this. And I go,
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we got to start CPR, So I try and start that. Now,
Charlie wasn't there. His eyes were fixed. He wasn't looking
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at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity.
He was with Jesus already. He was killed instantly and
felt absolutely no pain. That's what I was told later.
But of course we had to try. And by the way,
there was just nothing, nothing any of us could do
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about it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
It wasn't like if we had better first aid or
we had better medical facilities, so we were faster to
the hospital, we could have saved him.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We couldn't. So, if that's any comfort at all, Charlie
didn't suffer. He was gone. He was with Jesus, absent
from the body, present, with the Lord. That's where he
was now. It is true.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
When we got to the hospital and they started working
on him right away. They did get a pulse back,
and so Rick and I were just everyone's praying. We're
just praying for a miracle. We had a small sliver
of hope.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And the doctor later said that.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We got a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man,
but the shot was catastrophic. So twenty or thirty minutes later,
the surgeon came out and said he was dead.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So you've heard that clip there, and for those of
you that haven't seen it, like I said, he is
visibly shaken. He's upset. You can see he's upset the
way his body movements are. He's shaking and everything in
part of it. He's not acting right. This guy has
nothing to do with it. He was Charlie's mentor. And
if you can actually listen to him the way he
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speaks and actually how his voice breaks and you can
hear him getting upset, if you actually think that this
guy has anything to do with it, then you seriously
need to give your head a wobble. Frank Scherek had
nothing to do with it. It was Charlie's mentor, and
he does have a powerful testimony. I mentioned it previously.
His mum was actually raped and that resulted in Frank
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being born, and he's spoken about it publicly and he's
got absolutely nothing to do with the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Corser side are week.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Let you see, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Not me, it's not lying, family are. The FBI is
clearly lying. So the official sort of story is clearly
not true. The shot, it did not come from in
front of Charlie. It would have actually been behind Charlotte,
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maybe sort of to the right and behind sort of
a diagonal shot from the right hand side of Charlie. Now,
why am I saying this? Why am I saying that
it wasn't from the front. Well, I've watched a ballistics
breakdown video where they're breaking it down framed by frame,
and the exit wound, like I said previously, came it
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was at the front. It was at the front of
the bullet. The round came out the front, left hand
side of his neck, So he wasn't shot from the
front like the FBI is saying. And the exit wound
I would imagine probably from something of maybe maybe a
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five point five to six millimeter caliber weapon. I'm not
saying it is, just looking at it I've seen it
slowed right down. But the weapon that they say that
this guy was carrying was a Mouser nine to eight.
That's apparently what the weapon was. It was a bolt
action rifle. Basically. It was from the Second World War
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or there is some more modern versions, but there was
a bolt action rifle. And from the research I've done,
apparently this particul killer rifle, it weighs approximately nine pound
in weight, and I think it's carrying his seven point
six two millimeters round, which is a point three zero
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eight inch caliber. Now, looking at the exit wound, I
don't think that that was the weapon that was used.
I think it was a seven point six to two
caliber weapon. I think the exit wound would have been
quite a lot bigger. But I'm not a complete expert
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on it, obviously, I'm just giving my honest assessment. I've
seen the breakdown video, and the FBI are clearly lying.
And there have been claims that the reason that they
think Charlie's not dead is because the video of him
being carried to this suv, the saying, well, there were
no blood on the ground. Well, what you need to
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understand is, first of all, how they were carrying him
was sort of like face up. It wasn't. He wasn't
being carried face down. He was more than like he
was sort of face up. So if there's video of
him and they're carrying him face up, so he's back
towards the ground, Okay, so there's not going to be
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any blood, and you might be thinking, well, why not
he's been shot, because the exit wound is in the
front of his neck. You get shot, you bleed from
the exit wound. There won't be any blood from the entry.
That's how it works. So the way they were carrying him,
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there wouldn't have been blood dripping from sort of the
entry wound near the back of his neck. So that's
the reason why there's no blood on the ground, not
because it's fake and he wasn't dead. It's because of
the exit wound being at the front. Now, Tyler Robinson,
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the Patsy, apparently he jumped twelve feet. This is the
official story, right, He jumped twelve feet from the rooftop
carrying this rifle and the backpack, and basically, like Spider Man,
he's landing on his feet and that is something even
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the best park hour athletes can't do. Reliably all the time.
And it's not to mention how he scrambled over the
roof edge like a monkey still holding the bag. Now, Grock,
the AI from Twitter, this is Grock's conclusion. Performing a
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twelve foot drop while carrying ten to fifteen pound rifle
plus backpack and landing only on the feet without hands
or rolling and escaping reliably every time is extraordinarily difficult,
and it is the limit of human capability. A park
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ower expert or gymnast, et cetera that is also a
crack shot should have been spotted by Now that's Grock,
that's the AI of Twitter that has come to that conclusion. Now,
I'm not doing a massive episode today, Like I said,
I wasn't probably even gonna do one if I'm honest.
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So I'm just bringing things into the episode that I've
found out recently, sort of over the last week or so,
and things that you know, just to be aware of,
and also information for you to look into and people
for you to look into. So there's a person that's
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worth looking into. Now, Like I said, you guys over
in the United States, you're going to have a better
idea about a lot of these names that I'm going
to bring up now this first one I'm speaking about
this woman. I'm going to read a tweet, okay, which
is what she's posted. Her name's Laura Luma. I'm just
going to read a tweet first before say anything else.
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So this is what she wrote. She's tweeted many things,
but this is the one that I'm reading. I don't
ever want to hear at Charlie Kirk claim he's pro
Trump ever again. After this weekend, I'd say he has
revealed himself as a political opportunist and I have had
a front row seat to witness the mental gymnastics these
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last ten years. Lately, Charlie has decided to behave like
a Charlottean, claiming to be pro Trump one day while
he strapped stabs Trump in the back the next. Turning
Point USA was only able to thrive thanks to the
generosity of President Trump. That's not true. On the one
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year anniversary of the assassination attempt on Trump's life, Charlie
hosted at comic Dave's Smith at Turning Point usay's SAS conference,
where Dave Smith was able to speak to a bunch
of conservative youth at an organization that claims to be
pro Trump. Three weeks ago, Dave Smith called for President
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Trump to be impeached and removed from office over his
decision to blow up he RAN's nuclear facilities. Charlie played
both sides of the Iran issue on his show, as
we all saw, because he wants to play both sides
of the aisle. The honorable thing to do is have
a position and actually defend it to the death instead
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of flip flopping. So that's Laura Luma. Who is she?
She's a political activist, conspiracy theories and internet personality aligned
with far right politics. And I want you to all
have a guess what religious is Laura Luma. Have a
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little think. It shouldn't be too difficult. If you've listened
to my shore before, it's probably going to be one
of two, isn't it. Well, Laura Lumour is Jewish, and
you might be thinking, well, what's that got to do
with anything. It's got a lot to do with this,
hasn't it. If you've listened to the first episode, you'll
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know that the Jewish links to this situation are big.
There's a lot of them in terms of money and
people that have been sort of involved as in who
Charlie is spoken to, who possibly criticizing him. And this
person here, this Laura Luma, who is more known now
for being sort of an online personality, let's say, an
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internet personality. She's heavily critical of Charlie here, and she
just so happens to be Jewish. Is it a coincidence? Well,
I'll let you decide. I'm not going to tell you
what to think. I'm providing you with information. Now, Charlie
had his own show, obviously, the Charlie Kirkshaw. Well, let's
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talk about now some of the characters, some of the
people that have hosted his show since his death. First
of all, the Vice President of the United States hosted
one show as a tribute, jd Vance. Jd Vance is
a Roman Catholic. There's another guy called Glen Beck, a
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conservative political commentator, radio and TV host, author, an entrepreneur
and media producer. Raised Roman Catholic, but later in life
he converted to Mormonism. There's also Matt Walsh, who is
an American conservative, right wing political commentator, writer, podcaster, and
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author and best known for his work with The Daily
Wire and What Religion Is Matt Walsh. He is also
a Roman Catholic. Michael J. Knowles is a conservative commentator,
author and host affiliated with The Daily Wire. And he
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is a Roman Catholic. And finally, and by no means lease,
guess who else? Guess who else? Has been hosting on
the Charlie Kirk Show. Ben Shapiro and Ben Shapiro, for
those of you that don't know, is a Jew, and
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he's a known israerely intelligence asset. A former employee of
Brightbart News, Charlie Johnson worked in the early twenty tens
alongside Ben Shapier, and he said this, I want to
be fully on record that I saw Ben Shapiro receiving
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tasking from Israeli intelligence connected to Benjamin Netta, who when
I work next to him at Brightbar News. When I
asked him about it, he said he always kept close ties.
And then he goes on to say it's time for
Ben to registered under FARA. FARA is the Foreign Agent
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Registration Act. Now I don't know who this Charles Johnson is,
but he did work for this bright Bart News with
Ben Shapiro, so Johnson would be in a position to
know having worked intimately with Shapiro, and Shapiro does and
says everything that one would expect from a Mossad Lackey
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implanted into conservative American media to gin up unconditional moral
and material real support for Israel's wars. Breitbart News was
created by Andrew Breitbart and Benjamin Netting Yahoo. So the
Devil has got quickly to work as an it, putting
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his people into positions of influence on the Charlie Kirk Show.
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So the Devil has been busy since Charlie was shot,
putting his people in, putting people like Ben shap Hero
onto the Charlie Kirk Show. But I've got one statement
to make. But God, read your Bibles, guys, and take
note of that phrase. But God, you see, God will
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bring good out of this situation. How do I know that? Well,
because He's a good God to start with, and he
knows all things, and all things are in his sovereign
plan and purpose, even the shooting of Charlie Kirk, and
out of it, He's gonna bring good. So what I
want to do is I want to prove that, first
of all, how he is already starting to do good,
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because God is good all the time. And I'll show
you some good now that has come out of this
situation with Charlie Kirk being shot. So I'm gonna play
a clip now and then I'm gonna comment on the
clip after. But the clip is of a Senator Mark
or Rubio. Like I said, you guys over in the
United States, you're gonna know way more about this personality
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than I do. But this guy's called marcor Rubio. He's
a senator at the United States and he's speaking at
Charlie Kirk's memorial. I've not played the entire clip. I'm
playing the relevant clip, which is relevant for this actual
podcast today. So this is Marco Rubio.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I hope many who are watching I imagine there
are people watching here tonight that didn't know much about
Charlie Kirk until eleven days ago. Maybe they were disengaged
from politics, maybe they were partially engaged. I hope one
of the things they take from this is that the
movement Charlie Kirk led and started and gave fuel to
was about politics, but not only about politics. It was deeper,
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it was broader, and I would say that taking the liberty,
but I'm confident he would agree.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
One of the things he wants.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Us to take away from this from all of this
is the following his deep belief that we were all,
every single one of us before the beginning of time,
by the hands of the God of the universe and
all powerful God, who loved us and created us for
the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then
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sin entered the world and separated us.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
From our creator.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
And so God took on the form of a man
and came down and lived among us, and he suffered
like men, and he died like a man.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate
with his disciples so they could see, and they touched
his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as
a spirit, but his flesh.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And then he rose to the heaven.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
But he promised he would return, and he will.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
And when he returns.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
Because he took on that death, because he carried that cross,
we were freed from the sin that separated us from him.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new Earth, and we.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Will all be together, and we are going to have
a great reunion there again.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
With Charlie and all the people we love.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Thank you and God bless you. So that's pretty good,
isn't it what Marc or Rubio was saying there. And
you definitely wouldn't hear a politician over here in the
UK speaking anything like that. And he said some good things.
He said, you know, obviously we were created by God.
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He talked about Jesus, did he, you know, rose from
the dead, bodily did he did he ate with his disciples?
All good stuff, all correct. What lets it down at
the end he sort of doesn't mention, well he doesn't
not sort of. He doesn't mention anything to do with
faith in Jesus Christ. So he says, you know that
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Jesus died, and he you know, he died on the
cross and everything he rose again, and basically that that's
for us to take our sins away and that one
day they'll be this big reunion and will you know,
there'll be a reunion with Charlie and all the people
we love. Well, that's not strictly true, because the reality is,
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and this might upset some of you, but this is
the reality. Many of us will go to heaven and
our relatives are not going to be there because they
didn't put the faith in Jesus Christ. Just because Jesus
died and rose again doesn't mean everyone's going to be saved,
because they're not. And that is a fact, that is biblical,
that is truth. Now I'm going to play another clip now,
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and it's a better clip, more accurate than Marco Rubio.
And this is the guy that everyone's accusing. Okay, Frank Cherek,
they're accusing him, or the guy in the white baseball cap.
He's giving signals to the assassin to kill Charlie Kirk. Well,
this is Frank Charek speaking at Charlie Kirk's memorial. Have
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a listen and see what you think.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Please, welcome to the stage.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Frank Turek, Erica wanted me to share with you what
happened after that shot rang out on September tenth. I
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was standing twenty five feet from my beloved friend, just
off his right. Why was I there? About five years ago,
Charlie asked me if I would mentor him in the
evidence for Christianity, because that's one of the things I do. Now,
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it's gonna be difficult to mentor someone smarter than you. However,
the only thing that surpassed Charlie's intellect was his humility,
and so the few things I knew that he didn't
he wanted me to share with him. When that shot
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rang out, I took a step toward him, but his
security team was on him immediately, and so Charlie, being
like a son to me, I ran toward the security
team and we ran to the suv together. No father
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would stand back and go, no, you just take my son.
Take them. I'll meet you at the hospital. I got
into the back of the suv, and let me tell
you something. His team was amazing. When this full investigation
is done, I think you're gonna see that his team
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did everything they were supposed to do. In the car,
Justin was driving, Dan was in the front with the GPS.
Rick was to my left. He had Charlie's head, and
Brian was at Charlie's feet. And Charlie's so big we
couldn't even shut the door. He's so tall, and I'm pripped.
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I'm perched over the back seat. And while they're administering
all sorts of first Dad, apparently my skill, my job
was to yell. I was doing a lot of yelling.
And I want you to know that we did everything
we could to save Charlie. But Charlie was already gone.
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His face was looking at mine, but he wasn't looking
at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity.
And if it's any comfort at all, I learned later
that Charlie felt no pain. He died instantly. But we
had to try and bring him back. We couldn't. We
couldn't save him. Now, I want you to know that
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Charlie right now is in heaven. Not because he was
a great husband and father, not because he saved millions
of kids out of darkness on college campuses, not because
he changed minds and chased votes to save the country,
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not because he sacrificed himself for his savior. Charlie Kirk
is in heaven because his savior sacrificed himself for Charlie Kirk. Now, look,
(40:39):
there's only two things you can get in the afterlife.
You can get justice, or you can get grace. Ladies
and gentlemen, does anyone in here, does anybody out there
watching around the world want justice from an infinitely just being.
I don't want justice, I want grace. Well, the only
way to get grace for an infinitely just being is
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for him to punish an innocent substitute in our place.
Where can he find an his substitute among us? He can't.
We're all fallen. So what does this infinitely just an
infinitely loving God do? He adds humanity to his deity.
He comes to earth, He allows the creatures that rebelled
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against him to torture and kill him so he could
place their punishment upon himself. And then by trusting in him,
every one of us can be forgiven and then given
his righteousness. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the greatest story
he ever told, and it happens to be true. There's
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evidence for this, and Charlie knew it. Watch his videos.
Charlie knew that life wasn't just about money, It wasn't
just about sex, It wasn't just about power, It wasn't
just about prestige. He knew that the purpose of life
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is to know Jesus and to make him known, to
make heaven crowded. Charlie's eyes were fixed on eternity. Where
have your eyes been fixed? What have you been doing
with your lives? What you been doing? What are you
(42:34):
gonna do? Now? You know? In every evil God brings
forth some ripples of good. In this case, he's bringing
a tsunami of good. Look around, you're seeing it. And
if you think a martyrdom is going to stop this movement,
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well we all know Charlie was inspirational. But Erica Kirk
is a force of nature. You're gonna see her later today.
In fact, I know what's going on in the spiritual
realm right now. Every morning Erica gets up, the devil shrieks,
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oh no, she's awake again. And ladies and gentlemen, let's
honor Jesus, let's honor Charlie. Let's honor Erica. So that
when we wake up every morning, the devil shrieks, oh no,
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they're awake again. They're born again.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So that's Frank chu k good stuff. Maybe one hundred
thousand people at that memorial, and millions would have watched
that memorial, including the President of the United States Donald Trump,
would have heard Frank chare X say that Charlie is
in heaven because Jesus Christ sacrificed himself, not for anything
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that Charlie had done or anything that anybody can do.
That it was Christ. The reason is in heaven with
Jesus is because of Jesus because we have to place
our faith in him. And he talks about grace, doesn't
it And he talks about justice, and he's absolutely spot on.
Not one of us, I can tell you right now,
not one of us wants justice. Because if you get justice,
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first thing that's going to happen to you. You're going
to be taken from this scene of time, and then
you're going to be stood before the judgment seat of
God and he'll declare to you that you are a
sinner and to basically be taken away way and cast
into out of darkness, into the fiery furnace of hell.
That is what will happen if each one of us
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gets justice, And like Frank said, we need grace. Now.
I know people can talk the talk and not walk
the walk. But you've listened now to a couple of
clips of Frank Chirek. This man who is being accused,
the guy in the white baseball carp like I said,
is being accused of being part of this. When you
(45:29):
listen to what he says on his sort of the
one where I played earlier, where he sounds very upset,
and then you listen to this, do you really think
that this guy's involved well, I've listened to Frank over
a number of years, and like I said, he's a
Christian apologist, and I do not believe for one minute
that he is involved at all. But the point of
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this current segment, on this episode is the fact that
God now is using this. Like I said, Frank Churek
is speaking those words there and millions of peace people
would have heard that. There were people over here that
watched the Charlie Kirk memorial because they had people over
here that followed Charlie Kirk that listened to him. I
have a family member used to listen to Charlie Kirk.
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So there would have been people that heard that short
gospel message by Frank Schurek that's never heard the gospel
before and might never hear it again, but they got
to hear it that day. So this is how God works.
He brings good out of bad situations. And it was
a bad and tragic situation what happened to Charlie. But
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I want to close out by sort of telling people
what we must do and what we must think and
how we must sort of behave, how we must consider
this situation. And what I'm going to do is that
I'm going to read a passage of scripture. So I'm
going to read it, and then I'm going to talk
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about it. Luke, Chapter thirteen, Verses one to five. There
were present at that season some that told him. So
they're telling Jesus told him of the Galileans whose blood
Pilot had mingled with their sacrifices. And Jesus answering, said,
unto them, suppose ye that these Galileans were sinners above
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all Galileans, because they suffered such things, I tell you nay,
But except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Or
those eighteen upon whom the tower in Sloim fell and
slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all
men that dwelt in Jerusalem, I tell you nay, But
(47:39):
except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. So obviously
does some people come to Jesus here and they're telling
them about this horrific situation where conscious Pilot with these
Galileans that were killed, and then he mingled the blood
(48:00):
with these sacrifices that wicked man ponscious Pilot. And then
obviously Jesus tells them. His response is that, basically, do
you think they're worse than other people because this horrific
death befell them. Conscious pilot did this to them? Do
you think they're worse than other people? And he says, no,
they weren't. But except you repent, you'll likewise perish. But
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then he goes on to talk about an accident, what
we would call an accident, a tragic accident. This tower
in silo him fell on these eighteen and killed them.
And again he asked the question, do you suppose that
these were worse sinners than anyone else because this befell them?
And obviously he says no, I tell you they weren't worse.
(48:44):
But accept you repent, you shall all likewise perish. And
that is what we should take into consideration when we
see things like this happening. Charlie Kirks shot. Do you
think Charlie was a worse sinner than all of us? No?
But except you repent, you will likewise perish. So what
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must be the outcome from this? Well, first of all,
what I want you to do is, if you're a
Christian person, pray that the Gospel goes forth not only
in the United States, but the many followers that Charlie
had hopefully you know, ones that haven't seen that memorial,
ones that possibly weren't Christians but they were just conservatives.
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Maybe they'll hear that little speech thereby Frank Charek and
maybe think there's something in this, and hopefully then people
might start picking up the Bible if they've got one,
and reading it. So that's what we need to do.
We need to pray, but we need to consider the
brevity of life. I mentioned it before and I'll mention
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it again. What is the reason Charlie Kirk is dead?
And you'll say, got shot. No, that's not the reason,
that's the cause. The cause of his death is different.
Each one of us will have a cause of our death.
There will be a method to our death that will
take us out of this scene of time, but it
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is not the reason. So let me just explain it
a little bit further and more mechanically, if you like.
Cause is the factor, event or condition that directly brings
about something. So the bullet hit Charlie and killed him,
and it's objective and factual explaining. Basically, cause explains how
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something happens. Example that our collapse because the foundation was weak.
So here the weak foundation is the cause. It directly
led to the collapse, and usually in context. This is
how it's used in context of events, effects, or phenomena
where one thing produces another, so that's cause. Reason. A
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reason is the explanation or justification for why someone thinks, acts,
or believes something, for example, or why something is happening,
and it's often tied to motivation, logic, purpose, so it's
subjective or rational. It explains why someone, for example, does
something or believes something. So an example is she left
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the city for safety reasons, so the safety concern is
the reason. It explains this woman's choice or motivation, not
the mechanical cause. So common context of thoughts, actions, decisions,
or justification. So the reason that we die is because
of sin. The cause of death can be anything. You
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can be run over, cancer, heart attack, shot like Charlie, whatever,
that's a cause. The reason is sin and the Bible
says that the wages of sin is death. But the
gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ. So
let's keep in mind the brevity of life. Charlie Kirk,
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thirty one years old, gone into eternity. Not any of
us know what a day may bring forth. So if
you're a Christian, and if you're not a Christian, you
need to remember that you're only giving a finite amount
of time and there will be a cause to your death.
But the reason for your death is sin. Like I said,
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there's many theories out there, guys, and some of them
are just not even credible. And I'm certain I'm going
to get some messages and I know it will and
probably get some angry messages, especially about Frank Scharek. Again,
for some reason, people are hating on Frank Chirek just
because you know, he moved his heart and scratched his nose.
People getting itching know sometimes in public and they might
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have to scratch it doesn't mean the signaling for someone
to shoot a particular person. So please take away from this,
guys that God is bringing good out of this situation.
And the reality is God himself knows exactly what happened
and who was involved. So that's it for me, guys.
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Hopefully it has been informative for you. I'm not going
to be covering the Charlie Kirk shooting next week. I'm
not one hundred percent on what topic I'm going to cover,
but hopefully I can get a guess on schedule of
time and get an interview going on some fascinating topics.
So that's it for me. I'm Paul, and this is
beyond the paradigm my crazy.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
We don't use that word in here.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
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M You're here because you know something. What you know
you can't explain, but you feel it. You felt it
your entire life. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The matrix?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
I had dreams that weren't just dreams.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
We accept the reality of the world with which we're presented.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's as simple as that. Billions of people just living
out their lives.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
Oblivious.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
They talks. You're good, Hey, do you believe their world?
Speaker 6 (00:52):
You can deny all the things I've seen, all the
things I've discovered, not for once long because too many
others know what happening on there, and no one, no
government agency, has jurisdiction over the truth.
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just a few things thoughts that I've got regarding this
sort of Charlie Kirk shooting, sort of what's happened after
some of the things that I've noticed, and just to
give you some information, guys, and hopefully you go away
and look into it. And I have had people contacting me,
I've had videos sent to me, and obviously there are
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that's enough rambling on for me, so let's get into
this episode. So I just want to talk about a
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few things that have sort of come up over the
course of you know, the weeks since Charlie Kirk was
shot and some of the there is certain things that
keep cropping up, people keep saying. Now, the first one
I want to look at is this that there's people saying,
so this theory is circulating that Charlie's not dead, that
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basically his assassination was staged. Now, if you think this,
then you've never seen a person shot. You've never seen
a person be shot and killed or you've probably never
seen a dead body. So as soon as I saw
the video of him being shot and knew that he'd
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been killed instantly, and I've also seen footage of him
being hit from multiple different camera angles, and the way
his body contorts out of shot when the round hits
him and then his head rolls back and you see
his facing everything. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
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work out that he was killed instantly. And there's actual
exit wound, which is if you look, if you've seen
videos of him being shot, the exit wound is actually
in the front of his neck, sort of to the
left front of his neck. That is an exit wound.
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So you know, So they're saying, you know that he's
faked his death, and as far as I'm concerned, it's
just not even credible. It's not a credible theory. People
who were saying these things like to sensationalize, and they're
doing this because it gains them followers, and people like
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to think, oh, yeah, you know, it's a novel idea.
He hasn't been shot, he's faked, it's all been staged.
People seem to latch onto this, but there's no credit.
It's not even a credible theory. There's an exit wound
and blood's dribbling down his shirt at the front. Charlie
when he was shot. He was shot and he was killed.
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And there's even claims, and I've seen videos and someone
sent me a video as well, that Charlie wasn't actually there,
that it was like a projector. So there's some guy
after taking this camera down and people are saying that
it's a projector and that actually it was a hologram
of Charlie, that he wasn't actually there. Now, previously, Charlie
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was videoed interacting with people. So prior to him sitting down,
which is what Charlie did, he used to sit down
and answer questions and speak to people who used to
step up to the microphone speak to him. So prior
to that, he was videoed interacting with people. Okay, so
it's ridiculous to say that it was a projection. Again,
it's another novel idea and people will latch onto it.
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But as far as I'm concerned, it's ridiculous. Now one
that keeps cropping up. I've seen multiple videos on this
and he addressed it. Last time. It was about the
guy in the white baseball cap and saying that he's
giving hand signals to the shooter. And like I said
in the previous episode, I don't take this theory seriously
(11:12):
for one minute. And I've had someone contact me and say,
you know, I know you saying that the guy in
the white baseball cap hasn't done it, but maybe you
should look into it. Well, this guy is called Frank Charek,
and I said it before, as a Christian apologist, is
the lead speaker for an organization called Cross Examined. He
goes to universities and he speaks to the youth, like
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Charlie used to do. But Frank goes and he's events
are indoors and he answers questions. Now I've said this previously.
I don't agree with everything Frank Charek has said his theology,
but he is pretty good. And he was Charlie's mentor,
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and he's actually said that Charlie was like a son
to him, and he was actually so people are saying
he was on the phone, you know, to like an
agent or whatever. He was actually on the phone to
his son at the time Charlie was shot. And what
I'm gonna do now is I'm gonna play a clip
of Frank talking right about the shooting. Now, if you
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see the actual video of this, you'll see how upset
Frank Chirek is. And this is no act I can
I can assure you he's not acting. He's not an actor,
and you can actually hear the sadness in his voice
as well. So here's the clip of Frank chire X
speaking about the shooting of Charlie Kirk, which he was
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an eyewitness of because he was stood very close to
Charlie and he ran to the suv when they were
carrying Charlie's body there.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Now here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday.
This is going to be the hard part, but maybe
also the comforting part. Charlie Kirk was literally like a
son to me. I have three sons. He was like
my fourth son. My three sons are a little bit
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older than Charlie. He was like my fourth son. So
when he was hit. If your son got hit, what
would you do?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
What would you do? I got in the car.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Because if there was any way I could save him,
I had to do something.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Nah, I couldn't just we'll you just take him.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You guys got it.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So they got him into the side of the car.
It was an suv.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
It's the suv we took over, and I'm on one
side and there's actually some video that somebody's taking video
of this. I'm on one side of the car, the
right side, and they're getting Charlie in, so I run
over the other side. But the guy was dragging him
in the now blocking that entrance. So at that point
I run around to the back. I popped the top
the back gate open and I jump in the back.
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The car lurches forward. Apparently somebody jumped in the cars.
The car lurches forward, so I almost fall out of
the car, the suv. Then I grabbed the thing and
close it and there's five of us in the car.
Now Justin's driving. Dan is up front with the with
the GPS. Rick has got him. Rick's on my left,
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and Brian is there, and I'm coming over the back
seat and Charlie's laid out in front, just right in
front of me, and Charlie's so tall we can't we
can't close the door. We drove four miles someone I
don't know, it's four something miles all the way to
the hospital with the door open. To this day, I
don't know how Brian stayed in the car because we're.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Just go, go, go, go go.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
We're you know, we're trying to do. We're trying to
stop the bleeding. You saw it, and I'm yelling, come on, Charlie,
come on, come on. Meanwhile, my phone is still on.
My son and daughter in law hearing this whole thing,
and his security team again justin Dan, Bryan and Rick.
They love Charlie, but they were much cooler than I mean.
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They're just carrying out. They're calmly, but they're swiftly doing
exactly what they were trained to do. Rick starts praying
out loud. I'm praying out loud. We're yelling, come on,
let's go, let's go, let's go. My son's here and
all this, and we're doing the best we can to
navigate traffic.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
This's not a highway. We're on surface streets.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us, and there
was conversation in the car.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Should we stop. We're like, no, no, just keep going.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Just keep going. The doctor later said that was the
right thing to do. Ambulance goes by us, We're still
heading to the hospital, trying to get there. At one point,
somebody says, let's get there in one piece, because we're
just we're cutting through intersections, you know, we're just beeping
the horn. This is not an emergency vehicle. There's no
there's no lights, there's no one of this. And I go,
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we got to start CPR, So I try and start that. Now,
Charlie wasn't there. His eyes were fixed. He wasn't looking
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at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity.
He was with Jesus already. He was killed instantly and
felt absolutely no pain. That's what I was told later.
But of course we had to try. And by the way,
there was just nothing, nothing any of us could do
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about it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
It wasn't like if we had better first aid or
we had better medical facilities, so we were faster to
the hospital, we could have saved him.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We couldn't. So, if that's any comfort at all, Charlie
didn't suffer. He was gone. He was with Jesus, absent
from the body, present, with the Lord. That's where he
was now. It is true.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
When we got to the hospital and they started working
on him right away. They did get a pulse back,
and so Rick and I were just everyone's praying. We're
just praying for a miracle. We had a small sliver
of hope.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
And the doctor later said that.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
We got a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man,
but the shot was catastrophic. So twenty or thirty minutes later,
the surgeon came out and said he was dead.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
So you've heard that clip there, and for those of
you that haven't seen it, like I said, he is
visibly shaken. He's upset. You can see he's upset the
way his body movements are. He's shaking and everything in
part of it. He's not acting right. This guy has
nothing to do with it. He was Charlie's mentor. And
if you can actually listen to him the way he
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speaks and actually how his voice breaks and you can
hear him getting upset, if you actually think that this
guy has anything to do with it, then you seriously
need to give your head a wobble. Frank Scherek had
nothing to do with it. It was Charlie's mentor, and
he does have a powerful testimony. I mentioned it previously.
His mum was actually raped and that resulted in Frank
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being born, and he's spoken about it publicly and he's
got absolutely nothing to do with the shooting of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Corser side are week.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Let you see, it's.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Not me, it's not lying, family are. The FBI is
clearly lying. So the official sort of story is clearly
not true. The shot, it did not come from in
front of Charlie. It would have actually been behind Charlotte,
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maybe sort of to the right and behind sort of
a diagonal shot from the right hand side of Charlie. Now,
why am I saying this? Why am I saying that
it wasn't from the front. Well, I've watched a ballistics
breakdown video where they're breaking it down framed by frame,
and the exit wound, like I said previously, came it
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was at the front. It was at the front of
the bullet. The round came out the front, left hand
side of his neck, So he wasn't shot from the
front like the FBI is saying. And the exit wound
I would imagine probably from something of maybe maybe a
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five point five to six millimeter caliber weapon. I'm not
saying it is, just looking at it I've seen it
slowed right down. But the weapon that they say that
this guy was carrying was a Mouser nine to eight.
That's apparently what the weapon was. It was a bolt
action rifle. Basically. It was from the Second World War
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or there is some more modern versions, but there was
a bolt action rifle. And from the research I've done,
apparently this particul killer rifle, it weighs approximately nine pound
in weight, and I think it's carrying his seven point
six two millimeters round, which is a point three zero
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eight inch caliber. Now, looking at the exit wound, I
don't think that that was the weapon that was used.
I think it was a seven point six to two
caliber weapon. I think the exit wound would have been
quite a lot bigger. But I'm not a complete expert
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on it, obviously, I'm just giving my honest assessment. I've
seen the breakdown video, and the FBI are clearly lying.
And there have been claims that the reason that they
think Charlie's not dead is because the video of him
being carried to this suv, the saying, well, there were
no blood on the ground. Well, what you need to
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understand is, first of all, how they were carrying him
was sort of like face up. It wasn't. He wasn't
being carried face down. He was more than like he
was sort of face up. So if there's video of
him and they're carrying him face up, so he's back
towards the ground, Okay, so there's not going to be
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any blood, and you might be thinking, well, why not
he's been shot, because the exit wound is in the
front of his neck. You get shot, you bleed from
the exit wound. There won't be any blood from the entry.
That's how it works. So the way they were carrying him,
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there wouldn't have been blood dripping from sort of the
entry wound near the back of his neck. So that's
the reason why there's no blood on the ground, not
because it's fake and he wasn't dead. It's because of
the exit wound being at the front. Now, Tyler Robinson,
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the Patsy, apparently he jumped twelve feet. This is the
official story, right, He jumped twelve feet from the rooftop
carrying this rifle and the backpack, and basically, like Spider Man,
he's landing on his feet and that is something even
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the best park hour athletes can't do. Reliably all the time.
And it's not to mention how he scrambled over the
roof edge like a monkey still holding the bag. Now, Grock,
the AI from Twitter, this is Grock's conclusion. Performing a
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twelve foot drop while carrying ten to fifteen pound rifle
plus backpack and landing only on the feet without hands
or rolling and escaping reliably every time is extraordinarily difficult,
and it is the limit of human capability. A park
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ower expert or gymnast, et cetera that is also a
crack shot should have been spotted by Now that's Grock,
that's the AI of Twitter that has come to that conclusion. Now,
I'm not doing a massive episode today, Like I said,
I wasn't probably even gonna do one if I'm honest.
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So I'm just bringing things into the episode that I've
found out recently, sort of over the last week or so,
and things that you know, just to be aware of,
and also information for you to look into and people
for you to look into. So there's a person that's
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worth looking into. Now, Like I said, you guys over
in the United States, you're going to have a better
idea about a lot of these names that I'm going
to bring up now this first one I'm speaking about
this woman. I'm going to read a tweet, okay, which
is what she's posted. Her name's Laura Luma. I'm just
going to read a tweet first before say anything else.
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So this is what she wrote. She's tweeted many things,
but this is the one that I'm reading. I don't
ever want to hear at Charlie Kirk claim he's pro
Trump ever again. After this weekend, I'd say he has
revealed himself as a political opportunist and I have had
a front row seat to witness the mental gymnastics these
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last ten years. Lately, Charlie has decided to behave like
a Charlottean, claiming to be pro Trump one day while
he strapped stabs Trump in the back the next. Turning
Point USA was only able to thrive thanks to the
generosity of President Trump. That's not true. On the one
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year anniversary of the assassination attempt on Trump's life, Charlie
hosted at comic Dave's Smith at Turning Point usay's SAS conference,
where Dave Smith was able to speak to a bunch
of conservative youth at an organization that claims to be
pro Trump. Three weeks ago, Dave Smith called for President
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Trump to be impeached and removed from office over his
decision to blow up he RAN's nuclear facilities. Charlie played
both sides of the Iran issue on his show, as
we all saw, because he wants to play both sides
of the aisle. The honorable thing to do is have
a position and actually defend it to the death instead
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of flip flopping. So that's Laura Luma. Who is she?
She's a political activist, conspiracy theories and internet personality aligned
with far right politics. And I want you to all
have a guess what religious is Laura Luma. Have a
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little think. It shouldn't be too difficult. If you've listened
to my shore before, it's probably going to be one
of two, isn't it. Well, Laura Lumour is Jewish, and
you might be thinking, well, what's that got to do
with anything. It's got a lot to do with this,
hasn't it. If you've listened to the first episode, you'll
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know that the Jewish links to this situation are big.
There's a lot of them in terms of money and
people that have been sort of involved as in who
Charlie is spoken to, who possibly criticizing him. And this
person here, this Laura Luma, who is more known now
for being sort of an online personality, let's say, an
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internet personality. She's heavily critical of Charlie here, and she
just so happens to be Jewish. Is it a coincidence? Well,
I'll let you decide. I'm not going to tell you
what to think. I'm providing you with information. Now, Charlie
had his own show, obviously, the Charlie Kirkshaw. Well, let's
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talk about now some of the characters, some of the
people that have hosted his show since his death. First
of all, the Vice President of the United States hosted
one show as a tribute, jd Vance. Jd Vance is
a Roman Catholic. There's another guy called Glen Beck, a
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conservative political commentator, radio and TV host, author, an entrepreneur
and media producer. Raised Roman Catholic, but later in life
he converted to Mormonism. There's also Matt Walsh, who is
an American conservative, right wing political commentator, writer, podcaster, and
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author and best known for his work with The Daily
Wire and What Religion Is Matt Walsh. He is also
a Roman Catholic. Michael J. Knowles is a conservative commentator,
author and host affiliated with The Daily Wire. And he
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is a Roman Catholic. And finally, and by no means lease,
guess who else? Guess who else? Has been hosting on
the Charlie Kirk Show. Ben Shapiro and Ben Shapiro, for
those of you that don't know, is a Jew, and
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he's a known israerely intelligence asset. A former employee of
Brightbart News, Charlie Johnson worked in the early twenty tens
alongside Ben Shapier, and he said this, I want to
be fully on record that I saw Ben Shapiro receiving
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tasking from Israeli intelligence connected to Benjamin Netta, who when
I work next to him at Brightbar News. When I
asked him about it, he said he always kept close ties.
And then he goes on to say it's time for
Ben to registered under FARA. FARA is the Foreign Agent
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Registration Act. Now I don't know who this Charles Johnson is,
but he did work for this bright Bart News with
Ben Shapiro, so Johnson would be in a position to
know having worked intimately with Shapiro, and Shapiro does and
says everything that one would expect from a Mossad Lackey
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implanted into conservative American media to gin up unconditional moral
and material real support for Israel's wars. Breitbart News was
created by Andrew Breitbart and Benjamin Netting Yahoo. So the
Devil has got quickly to work as an it, putting
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his people into positions of influence on the Charlie Kirk Show.
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So the Devil has been busy since Charlie was shot,
putting his people in, putting people like Ben shap Hero
onto the Charlie Kirk Show. But I've got one statement
to make. But God, read your Bibles, guys, and take
note of that phrase. But God, you see, God will
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bring good out of this situation. How do I know that? Well,
because He's a good God to start with, and he
knows all things, and all things are in his sovereign
plan and purpose, even the shooting of Charlie Kirk, and
out of it, He's gonna bring good. So what I
want to do is I want to prove that, first
of all, how he is already starting to do good,
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because God is good all the time. And I'll show
you some good now that has come out of this
situation with Charlie Kirk being shot. So I'm gonna play
a clip now and then I'm gonna comment on the
clip after. But the clip is of a Senator Mark
or Rubio. Like I said, you guys over in the
United States, you're gonna know way more about this personality
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than I do. But this guy's called marcor Rubio. He's
a senator at the United States and he's speaking at
Charlie Kirk's memorial. I've not played the entire clip. I'm
playing the relevant clip, which is relevant for this actual
podcast today. So this is Marco Rubio.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
But I hope many who are watching I imagine there
are people watching here tonight that didn't know much about
Charlie Kirk until eleven days ago. Maybe they were disengaged
from politics, maybe they were partially engaged. I hope one
of the things they take from this is that the
movement Charlie Kirk led and started and gave fuel to
was about politics, but not only about politics. It was deeper,
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it was broader, and I would say that taking the liberty,
but I'm confident he would agree.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
One of the things he wants.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Us to take away from this from all of this
is the following his deep belief that we were all,
every single one of us before the beginning of time,
by the hands of the God of the universe and
all powerful God, who loved us and created us for
the purpose of living with him in eternity. But then
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sin entered the world and separated us.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
From our creator.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
And so God took on the form of a man
and came down and lived among us, and he suffered
like men, and he died like a man.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
But on the third day he rose unlike any mortal man.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
And then, and to prove any doubters wrong, he ate
with his disciples so they could see, and they touched
his wounds. He didn't rise as a ghost or as
a spirit, but his flesh.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
And then he rose to the heaven.
Speaker 7 (34:44):
But he promised he would return, and he will.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
And when he returns.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
Because he took on that death, because he carried that cross,
we were freed from the sin that separated us from him.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
And when he returns, there will be a new heaven
and a new Earth, and we.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
Will all be together, and we are going to have
a great reunion there again.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
With Charlie and all the people we love.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Thank you and God bless you. So that's pretty good,
isn't it what Marc or Rubio was saying there. And
you definitely wouldn't hear a politician over here in the
UK speaking anything like that. And he said some good things.
He said, you know, obviously we were created by God.
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He talked about Jesus, did he, you know, rose from
the dead, bodily did he did he ate with his disciples?
All good stuff, all correct. What lets it down at
the end he sort of doesn't mention, well he doesn't
not sort of. He doesn't mention anything to do with
faith in Jesus Christ. So he says, you know that
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Jesus died, and he you know, he died on the
cross and everything he rose again, and basically that that's
for us to take our sins away and that one
day they'll be this big reunion and will you know,
there'll be a reunion with Charlie and all the people
we love. Well, that's not strictly true, because the reality is,
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and this might upset some of you, but this is
the reality. Many of us will go to heaven and
our relatives are not going to be there because they
didn't put the faith in Jesus Christ. Just because Jesus
died and rose again doesn't mean everyone's going to be saved,
because they're not. And that is a fact, that is biblical,
that is truth. Now I'm going to play another clip now,
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and it's a better clip, more accurate than Marco Rubio.
And this is the guy that everyone's accusing. Okay, Frank Cherek,
they're accusing him, or the guy in the white baseball cap.
He's giving signals to the assassin to kill Charlie Kirk. Well,
this is Frank Charek speaking at Charlie Kirk's memorial. Have
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a listen and see what you think.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Please, welcome to the stage.
Speaker 5 (36:59):
Frank Turek, Erica wanted me to share with you what
happened after that shot rang out on September tenth. I
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was standing twenty five feet from my beloved friend, just
off his right. Why was I there? About five years ago,
Charlie asked me if I would mentor him in the
evidence for Christianity, because that's one of the things I do. Now,
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it's gonna be difficult to mentor someone smarter than you. However,
the only thing that surpassed Charlie's intellect was his humility,
and so the few things I knew that he didn't
he wanted me to share with him. When that shot
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rang out, I took a step toward him, but his
security team was on him immediately, and so Charlie, being
like a son to me, I ran toward the security
team and we ran to the suv together. No father
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would stand back and go, no, you just take my son.
Take them. I'll meet you at the hospital. I got
into the back of the suv, and let me tell
you something. His team was amazing. When this full investigation
is done, I think you're gonna see that his team
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did everything they were supposed to do. In the car,
Justin was driving, Dan was in the front with the GPS.
Rick was to my left. He had Charlie's head, and
Brian was at Charlie's feet. And Charlie's so big we
couldn't even shut the door. He's so tall, and I'm pripped.
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I'm perched over the back seat. And while they're administering
all sorts of first Dad, apparently my skill, my job
was to yell. I was doing a lot of yelling.
And I want you to know that we did everything
we could to save Charlie. But Charlie was already gone.
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His face was looking at mine, but he wasn't looking
at me. He was looking past me, right into eternity.
And if it's any comfort at all, I learned later
that Charlie felt no pain. He died instantly. But we
had to try and bring him back. We couldn't. We
couldn't save him. Now, I want you to know that
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Charlie right now is in heaven. Not because he was
a great husband and father, not because he saved millions
of kids out of darkness on college campuses, not because
he changed minds and chased votes to save the country,
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not because he sacrificed himself for his savior. Charlie Kirk
is in heaven because his savior sacrificed himself for Charlie Kirk. Now, look,
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there's only two things you can get in the afterlife.
You can get justice, or you can get grace. Ladies
and gentlemen, does anyone in here, does anybody out there
watching around the world want justice from an infinitely just being.
I don't want justice, I want grace. Well, the only
way to get grace for an infinitely just being is
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for him to punish an innocent substitute in our place.
Where can he find an his substitute among us? He can't.
We're all fallen. So what does this infinitely just an
infinitely loving God do? He adds humanity to his deity.
He comes to earth, He allows the creatures that rebelled
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against him to torture and kill him so he could
place their punishment upon himself. And then by trusting in him,
every one of us can be forgiven and then given
his righteousness. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the greatest story
he ever told, and it happens to be true. There's
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evidence for this, and Charlie knew it. Watch his videos.
Charlie knew that life wasn't just about money, It wasn't
just about sex, It wasn't just about power, It wasn't
just about prestige. He knew that the purpose of life
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is to know Jesus and to make him known, to
make heaven crowded. Charlie's eyes were fixed on eternity. Where
have your eyes been fixed? What have you been doing
with your lives? What you been doing? What are you
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gonna do? Now? You know? In every evil God brings
forth some ripples of good. In this case, he's bringing
a tsunami of good. Look around, you're seeing it. And
if you think a martyrdom is going to stop this movement,
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well we all know Charlie was inspirational. But Erica Kirk
is a force of nature. You're gonna see her later today.
In fact, I know what's going on in the spiritual
realm right now. Every morning Erica gets up, the devil shrieks,
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oh no, she's awake again. And ladies and gentlemen, let's
honor Jesus, let's honor Charlie. Let's honor Erica. So that
when we wake up every morning, the devil shrieks, oh no,
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they're awake again. They're born again.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So that's Frank chu k good stuff. Maybe one hundred
thousand people at that memorial, and millions would have watched
that memorial, including the President of the United States Donald Trump,
would have heard Frank chare X say that Charlie is
in heaven because Jesus Christ sacrificed himself, not for anything
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that Charlie had done or anything that anybody can do.
That it was Christ. The reason is in heaven with
Jesus is because of Jesus because we have to place
our faith in him. And he talks about grace, doesn't
it And he talks about justice, and he's absolutely spot on.
Not one of us, I can tell you right now,
not one of us wants justice. Because if you get justice,
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first thing that's going to happen to you. You're going
to be taken from this scene of time, and then
you're going to be stood before the judgment seat of
God and he'll declare to you that you are a
sinner and to basically be taken away way and cast
into out of darkness, into the fiery furnace of hell.
That is what will happen if each one of us
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gets justice, And like Frank said, we need grace. Now.
I know people can talk the talk and not walk
the walk. But you've listened now to a couple of
clips of Frank Chirek. This man who is being accused,
the guy in the white baseball carp like I said,
is being accused of being part of this. When you
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listen to what he says on his sort of the
one where I played earlier, where he sounds very upset,
and then you listen to this, do you really think
that this guy's involved well, I've listened to Frank over
a number of years, and like I said, he's a
Christian apologist, and I do not believe for one minute
that he is involved at all. But the point of
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this current segment, on this episode is the fact that
God now is using this. Like I said, Frank Churek
is speaking those words there and millions of peace people
would have heard that. There were people over here that
watched the Charlie Kirk memorial because they had people over
here that followed Charlie Kirk that listened to him. I
have a family member used to listen to Charlie Kirk.
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So there would have been people that heard that short
gospel message by Frank Schurek that's never heard the gospel
before and might never hear it again, but they got
to hear it that day. So this is how God works.
He brings good out of bad situations. And it was
a bad and tragic situation what happened to Charlie. But
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I want to close out by sort of telling people
what we must do and what we must think and
how we must sort of behave, how we must consider
this situation. And what I'm going to do is that
I'm going to read a passage of scripture. So I'm
going to read it, and then I'm going to talk
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about it. Luke, Chapter thirteen, Verses one to five. There
were present at that season some that told him. So
they're telling Jesus told him of the Galileans whose blood
Pilot had mingled with their sacrifices. And Jesus answering, said,
unto them, suppose ye that these Galileans were sinners above
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all Galileans, because they suffered such things, I tell you nay,
But except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Or
those eighteen upon whom the tower in Sloim fell and
slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all
men that dwelt in Jerusalem, I tell you nay, But
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except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. So obviously
does some people come to Jesus here and they're telling
them about this horrific situation where conscious Pilot with these
Galileans that were killed, and then he mingled the blood
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with these sacrifices that wicked man ponscious Pilot. And then
obviously Jesus tells them. His response is that, basically, do
you think they're worse than other people because this horrific
death befell them. Conscious pilot did this to them? Do
you think they're worse than other people? And he says, no,
they weren't. But except you repent, you'll likewise perish. But
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then he goes on to talk about an accident, what
we would call an accident, a tragic accident. This tower
in silo him fell on these eighteen and killed them.
And again he asked the question, do you suppose that
these were worse sinners than anyone else because this befell them?
And obviously he says no, I tell you they weren't worse.
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But accept you repent, you shall all likewise perish. And
that is what we should take into consideration when we
see things like this happening. Charlie Kirks shot. Do you
think Charlie was a worse sinner than all of us? No?
But except you repent, you will likewise perish. So what
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must be the outcome from this? Well, first of all,
what I want you to do is, if you're a
Christian person, pray that the Gospel goes forth not only
in the United States, but the many followers that Charlie
had hopefully you know, ones that haven't seen that memorial,
ones that possibly weren't Christians but they were just conservatives.
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Maybe they'll hear that little speech thereby Frank Charek and
maybe think there's something in this, and hopefully then people
might start picking up the Bible if they've got one,
and reading it. So that's what we need to do.
We need to pray, but we need to consider the
brevity of life. I mentioned it before and I'll mention
(49:49):
it again. What is the reason Charlie Kirk is dead?
And you'll say, got shot. No, that's not the reason,
that's the cause. The cause of his death is different.
Each one of us will have a cause of our death.
There will be a method to our death that will
take us out of this scene of time, but it
(50:10):
is not the reason. So let me just explain it
a little bit further and more mechanically, if you like.
Cause is the factor, event or condition that directly brings
about something. So the bullet hit Charlie and killed him,
and it's objective and factual explaining. Basically, cause explains how
(50:33):
something happens. Example that our collapse because the foundation was weak.
So here the weak foundation is the cause. It directly
led to the collapse, and usually in context. This is
how it's used in context of events, effects, or phenomena
where one thing produces another, so that's cause. Reason. A
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reason is the explanation or justification for why someone thinks, acts,
or believes something, for example, or why something is happening,
and it's often tied to motivation, logic, purpose, so it's
subjective or rational. It explains why someone, for example, does
something or believes something. So an example is she left
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the city for safety reasons, so the safety concern is
the reason. It explains this woman's choice or motivation, not
the mechanical cause. So common context of thoughts, actions, decisions,
or justification. So the reason that we die is because
of sin. The cause of death can be anything. You
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can be run over, cancer, heart attack, shot like Charlie, whatever,
that's a cause. The reason is sin and the Bible
says that the wages of sin is death. But the
gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ. So
let's keep in mind the brevity of life. Charlie Kirk,
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thirty one years old, gone into eternity. Not any of
us know what a day may bring forth. So if
you're a Christian, and if you're not a Christian, you
need to remember that you're only giving a finite amount
of time and there will be a cause to your death.
But the reason for your death is sin. Like I said,
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there's many theories out there, guys, and some of them
are just not even credible. And I'm certain I'm going
to get some messages and I know it will and
probably get some angry messages, especially about Frank Scharek. Again,
for some reason, people are hating on Frank Chirek just
because you know, he moved his heart and scratched his nose.
People getting itching know sometimes in public and they might
(52:52):
have to scratch it doesn't mean the signaling for someone
to shoot a particular person. So please take away from this,
guys that God is bringing good out of this situation.
And the reality is God himself knows exactly what happened
and who was involved. So that's it for me, guys.
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Hopefully it has been informative for you. I'm not going
to be covering the Charlie Kirk shooting next week. I'm
not one hundred percent on what topic I'm going to cover,
but hopefully I can get a guess on schedule of
time and get an interview going on some fascinating topics.
So that's it for me. I'm Paul, and this is
beyond the paradigm my crazy.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
We don't use that word in here.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
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