Reloaded Ep 9: The Finder's , Jeffrey Epstein & the CIA: A Story of Corruption & Intrigue

2 Men were arrested in a park in Tallahassee and they had 6 children with them who were not related to them an investigation ensued but what Links Jeffrey Epstein, The Cia and the mysterious cult The finder's that these men belonged to. Join me to discover the shocking truth.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to Beyond the Paradigm. I'm your host,
Paul Brackel. This is a reloaded episode from the seventh
of July twenty twenty three. It's episode nine The Finders,
Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA, a story of corruption and intrigue.
Due to me being on holiday, there was no episode

(00:22):
last week, so I am working on a new episode
for this coming Friday. But this is a relevant episode
to re release in light of the fact that they've
now said there is no Epstein client list surprise surprise,
So then that would make Gilain Maxwell the first person

(00:42):
in history to be sent to prison for sex trafficking
nobody at all because there were no clients. Apparently, you
may have heard of Gilain Maxwell referred to as Gislaine
Maxwell because of how her name is spelt, but it's
a silent I since she's Gillaiine Maxwell. She's the daughter

(01:02):
of Robert Maxwell and a close associate of Jeffrey Epstein,
both who have links including Gilaine's father Robert Maxwell, who
all have links to Mossad. And it was inevitable that
no names were going to be released because Donald Trump's
names on there without a shadow of a doubt. Donald

(01:24):
Trump's name is on that list because he was an
associate of Epstein and Maxwell been photographed with them many
many times. And that's the reason. So all you guys
who voted Donald Trump, Payne and this Maga crowd, they've
stitched you what big time because they're all in on it,

(01:45):
all of them. So this episode is one of the
really early episodes. It's not been given the love that
it's due. I did a lot of hard work on
this one, looking into the documents of the Epstein case
which are on the FBI vault, and it's very very interesting,
and it's a very deep rabbit hole. And this you'll

(02:06):
be able to tell. It's an early episode. The information
is all there. The production might not be as good
as the later episodes because I learned to edit better
and cut in different music and use better music to
enhance the experience for the listener. But I hope you
enjoy it. It is a really deep rabbit hole. I

(02:27):
would encourage you to go on the FBI vote. You
can download a lot of documents from there. But what
I would say is, and you'll hear me saying it
on this episode when I'm reading from some of the documents.
They are redacted in parts, which does make it a
little bit difficult, but it's like a jigsaw puzzle and
you've got to put it together. So please enjoy this

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reloaded episode from July twenty twenty three. Hello, welcome to

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Beyond the Paradigm. I'm Paul. Thank you for listening, and
welcome back if you've listened before. So, having just spent
three weeks talking about the UFO phenomena, I had decided
that I conclude that topic, and I did so last week.
Now I've shifted my focus to another rabbit hole. I've

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(04:16):
will be posting relevant images sometimes that are relevant to
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the moment, some of the topics that I will cover,
you can go on Instagram and you'll be able to
see some of the images regarding the things I'm talking about.

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So this is episode nine in relation to a group
called the Finders, Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA. What links
all them together? So? Jeffrey Epstein, the welfare financier and
associate of many of the world's elite, was found dead

(04:59):
in his prison cell on the tenth of August twenty nineteen,
and his death was ruled as a suicide by hanging.
Epstein had been arrested on July sixth, twenty nineteen, on
federal charges for the sex trafficking of miners in Florida

(05:21):
and New York. This was not the only time he
had been arrested for similar types of offenses. In two
thousand and five, police at Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating
Epstein after a parent reported that he had sexually abused
her fourteen year old daughter. Epstein pleaded guilty and was

(05:46):
convicted in two thousand and eight by a Florida state
court of procuring a child for prostitution and of soliciting
a prostitute. He served almost thirteen months in custody, but
with extensive work release, he basically was allowed to go home,

(06:08):
and he was only convicted of these two crimes as
part of a controversial plea deal. Federal officials had actually
identified another thirty six thirty six girls, and some of
them were as young as fourteen whom Epstein had allegedly
sexually abused. So who was he, Jeffrey Epstein? And how

(06:32):
did he become so wealthy against so many friends and
associates among the world's elite, And what links does the
mysterious group called the Finders have with Epstein and the cia.
Rosa Moncton, the former CEO of Tiffany and Core, told

(06:56):
Vanity Fair for a two thousand and three article that
Epstein was very egnematic and a classic Iceberg. She said,
you think you know him, and then you peel off
another ring of the onion skin and there's something else
extraordinary underneath. She said. What you see is not what

(07:20):
you get. Jeffrey Edward Epstein born January twentieth, nineteen fifty three.
Epstein was born and raised in New York City. He
began his professional life by teaching at the Dalton School,
despite lacking a college degree. After his dismissal from school,

(07:44):
which it was alleged, was because he had shown inappropriate
behavior towards underage students, he entered the banking and finance sector,
working at Bear Stains in various roles, Epstein he joined
Burst Earns in nineteen seventy six as a low level

(08:04):
junior assistant to a floor trader. He swiftly moved up
to become an options trader working in the special products division,
and then advised the bank's wealthiest clients, such as Seagram
president Egner Edgar Bronfman on tax mitigation strategies. Jimmy Kaine,

(08:29):
the bank's later chief executive, praised Epstein's skill with wealthy
clients and complex products. In nineteen eighty four, years after
joining Burstearns, Epstein became a limited partner. However, in nineteen
eighty one, Epstein was asked to leave Burst Earns, according

(08:51):
to his sworn testimony, for being guilty of a reg
de violation basically a trading violation. Even though Epstein departed abruptly,
he remained close to Caine and Greenberg and was a
client of burs Stearns until its collapsed in two thousand
and eight. Stephen Hoffenberg hired Epstein in nineteen eighty seven

(09:16):
as a consultant for Towers Financial Corporation. It was unaffiliated
with the company of the same name that was founded
in nineteen ninety eight and acquired by Old National Bank
Court in two thousand and fourteen, a collection agency that
bought debts people out to hospitals. That's what they did

(09:39):
banks and phone companies. Hoffenburg set Epstein up open offices
in Villard Houses in Manhattan, and he paid him twenty
five thousand dollars per month for his consulting work, which
in today's money as well as of twenty twenty t

(10:00):
so it was approximately sixty four thousand dollars a month
a good wage, and that's an understatement. In nineteen eighty eight,
while Epstein was still consulting for Hoffenberg, he founded his
own financial management firm called Jay Epstein and Company. The

(10:21):
company was said by Epstein to have been formed to
manage the assets of clients with more than one billion
dollars in net worth, although others have expressed skepticism that
he was restrictive of the clients that he took. The
only publicly known billionaire client of Epstein was Leslie Wexner,

(10:43):
a chairman and CEO of L Brands and Victoria's Secrets.
In nineteen ninety six, Epstein changed the name of his
firm to the Financial Trust Company and for tax advantages,
based it on the island of Saint Thomas in the
US Virgin Islands. By relocating to the US Virgin Islands,

(11:06):
Epstein was able to reduce federal income taxes by ninety percent.
The US Virgin Islands acted as an offshore tax haven,
while at the same time offering the advantages of being
part of the United States banking system. Between two thousand
and two and two thousand and five, Epstein invested eighty

(11:29):
million dollars in DB's Worn Special Opportunities Fund. It was
a hedge fund that invested in illiquid debt securities. In
November two thousand and six, Epstein attempted to redeem his
investment after he was informed of accounting irregularities in the fund.

(11:52):
By this time, his investment had grown to one hundred
and forty million dollars. By this time. With his investment grown, Epstein,
a month after the federal investigation had began, invested fifty

(12:12):
seven million in Burstearn's High Grade Structured Credit Strategies Enhanced
Leverage hedge fund. That's a mouthful. This fund was highly
leveraged in a muggage back collateralized debt obligations or CDOs.
By the time that Bursteyne's fund began to fail in

(12:33):
May two thousand and seven, Epstein had begun to negotiate
a plea deal with the US Attorney's office concerning his
imminent charges for sex with minors. This was in relation
to the two thousand and five allegations of him sexually
abusing a fourteen year old girl. In August two thousand

(12:53):
and seven, a month after the fund collapsed, the US
Attorney in Miami, Alexander Acosta, entered into direct discussions about
the plea agreement. A Costa broke a lenient deal, and
according to him, this was because he had been ordered

(13:15):
by high government officials who told him that Epstein was
an individual of importance to the government. Basically, a Costa
was told that Epstein belonged to intelligence. Now, Epstein himself
had previously stated this, but he later retracted that statement. Now,

(13:38):
in terms of the mechanism as to how Epstein became
involved in the intelligence world, it's not known exactly. The
actual mechanism is not known. However, it is known that
Epstein became romantically involved in nineteen ninety two with the

(13:59):
English Aristo at Gillaine Maxwell, who he met first of
all in nineteen ninety one. Now, as we know, Gillaiine
Maxwell was sentenced to twenty years in prison for child trafficking.
But why is this relationship important when considering Epstein and
his links to the intelligence world. Well, Gilene Maxwell's father

(14:24):
was Robert Maxwell, who was Robert Maxwell His actual name, well,
he had it changed and he was called Ian Robert Maxwell.
But he was born Jan Ludwig Himen Binyamin Hocks on
the tenth of June nineteen twenty three, and he was

(14:46):
a Czechoslovak born British media proprietor and member of Parliament.
And he was a suspected spy and fraudster. Early in
his life, Maxwell escaped from Nazi occupation in his native country,
joined the Czechoslovak Army in exile during World War II,

(15:06):
and was decorated after for his active service in the
British Army. In subsequent years, he worked in publishing, building
up pergammm Press to a major academic publisher, and after
six years as a labor MP during the nineteen sixties,
Maxwell again put all his energy into business, successfully buying

(15:30):
the British printing Corporation, Mirror Group Newspapers, and Macmillan Publishers,
among other publishing companies. Robert Maxwell was suspected of being
an Israeli spit. In fact, I six believed him to
actually be a triple agent who worked for Israel, Britain

(15:53):
and the Soviet Union. The FBI as a memoir in
the FBI vault and that can be read online and
that confirms they had suspicions that Maxwell was working for
the Soviet Union. Robert Maxwell may be the link as

(16:13):
to why Epstein was said to belong to intelligence. Now,
in an interview with Stephen Hoffenburg, who had employed Epstein
in nineteen eighty seven as a consultant at the Tower
Financial Cooperation, he said that Epstein was trained in moving
money offshore and that a mentor of Epstein's was someone

(16:37):
Hoffenburg knew, and it was a British defense contractor who
died in twenty eleven named Douglas Lees. Now Hoffenburg claimed
that Lees was an arms dealer. Lese's son Julian, however,
says that is not true, but the UK parliamentary record

(17:01):
does mention Lees in reference to the El Yamaha arms
deal in the early nineteen eighties, Hoffenburg told the journalist
that was interviewing him that Lees was pivotal in understanding
Jeffrey Epstein's m all because Lees had introduced him not
only to aristocrat Europeans whom Epstein had subsequently fleeced, but

(17:29):
to all sorts of people in the arms business, including
the late Turkish born businessman ad Nan Cash Hogge and
allegedly the late media morgul Robert Maxwell. Epstein had originally
claimed not to know either Douglas Lees or Robert Maxwell,

(17:50):
but in the interview, Hoffenburg stated that Epstein had said
he worked on several projects with Robert Maxwell, including solving
Maxwell's debt issues, and Maxwell had died in nineteen ninety
one under very strange circumstances, apparently having fallen off his

(18:13):
yacht Lady Gilaine in the middle of the night, and
it was discovered in the aftermath that had stolen hundreds
of millions of dollars from pensions of his employees. Epstein
had also told Hoffenburg that, via Maxwell and Lees, he
was involved in something that Hoffenberg described as national security issues,

(18:39):
which he says involved blackmail influenced trading trading information at
a level that is very serious and dangerous. Four separate
sources have gone on records stating that Epstein's dealings in
the arms world in the nineteen eighties had led him
to work for multiple governments, in cl the Israelis. Now

(19:04):
Some of the sources are more reliable than others, but
the gist of the claims is that Maxwell, who was
himself a conduit between the Israelis and other governments during
his lifetime, introduced Epstein to Israeli leaders, who then allegedly
used Epstein as the equivalent of an old fashioned Russian sleeper,

(19:24):
someone who could be useful in an influence campaign. The
sources ranged from former arms dealers to former spies and
also Hoffenburg, suggest that Epstein, who lacked any sort of
moral compass, decided to go one step further and compromise
influential people by recording them doing things they wouldn't want

(19:48):
made public. In the last ten years of his life,
Epstein bragged to various people, including journalists, that he was
advising a whole a sortman of foreign leaders who including
Vladimir Putin, Mohammed bin Zayid, Mohammed bin Salmon, various African dictators,

(20:10):
Israeli and British and of course the Americans of governments.
He also told several of the same people that he
was making a fortune out of arms, drugs and diamonds.
It saw one person, a journalist of a similar name,
that he knew the owner of the deep water poor

(20:32):
in Djibouti on the Horn of Africa, a smuggler's paradise,
and he said he knew it so well that he
was basically in charge of it. They were. According to
sources in the intelligence world. This is hyperbole, but also
not completely ridiculous, because his name was mentioned as a

(20:56):
middleman in both Africa and the Middle East. Was known
in the intelligence world as a hyperfixer, somebody who can
go between different cultures and networks. Usually these people are
very silent about what they do. Yet Epstein was not silent.

(21:17):
He had a photo of the Saudi Crown Prince on
his wall, and photos of Bill Gates and all the
VIPs who flocked to his saloons. It's not wholly surprising, therefore,
that the same sources who say they know he was
some sort of intelligence asset say that he became a liability,

(21:41):
which is why possibly he lost any protection and was
arrested and then he was later found dead in his
prison cell. In nineteen eighty seven, in Tallahassee in the

(22:21):
United States, two well dressed men were arrested in a
park as they were seen with six children between the
ages of two to seven years old. All the children
were filthy and they were covered in bug bites and
they were hungry. Locals had seen the children urinating and

(22:42):
defecating in the park and called the police because they
were concerned. These men were arrested and when they were arrested,
they simply responded with silence and just handed over a
pre printed card which stayed on them that they knew
their Amendment rights. They used a van to transport the children,

(23:08):
and when the police looked in the van, it smelled
terrible as if they had been living in it, and
it was filled with letters and maps. These two men
later stated that they were the children's teachers and that
they were on the way to Mexico to a school
for gifted children. The children were spoken to and one

(23:32):
of them gave an address for where they lived, and
it turned out to actually be the address of a warehouse.
The warehouse was raided along with another property and all
kinds of items were discovered, such as many photos of
children taking part in blood letting rituals, one of a

(23:55):
child in chains and child pornography, and many documents and passports.
The two oldest children, referred to as Mary and Max,
were interviewed by the law enforcement as the others were
too young to properly communicate, and it was noted that

(24:18):
the medical examinations of the children they'd shown signs of
sexual abuse and malnourishment, as well as bike marks potentially
belonging to an adult human. During the interview, as well
as eyewitness testimonies for neighbors, it was discovered that the

(24:38):
children were raised on a form belonging to a man
called Mary and Petty who he was actually the founder
of this group known as the Finders, and they were
raised on this form with little adult supervision, with the

(24:58):
being around twenty adults there and there was another child
present at this farm. The younger children were often observed
to display behavior indicating that they were not used to
being in a house or using indoor plumbing, and while

(25:19):
they were at the police station, they kept requesting to
go outside to use the bathroom, or they were urinating
in the pants and it was noted that the lacked underwear,
Max had a poor concept of time, and they explained
that they were being weaned from their mothers and were

(25:41):
rarely allowed inside the house, even sleeping outside. Neighbors observed
that the children apparently lived in the farm's watermelon field.
Mary described the two men who were arrested going by
the surnames of Ammamon and Holwell and Mary. She described

(26:04):
them as the teachers, teaching them to read and play games.
One game involved disrobing a man, wearing his clothes and
going through his pockets for money. She later revised what
she said and asserted that only jackets were involved. The

(26:26):
two reported seeing female members of the cult naked, but
the children believed this to be another game as well.
When Mary was questioned regarding bad touches being touched in
a bad way, Mary denied this, and she became very fidgety,

(26:46):
and she seemed to want the interview to come to
an end. At another finder's farm discovered in Virginia, agents
recorded cages on the premises, with witnesses as certain that
they were used to keep children. Now I've been going
through the FBI vault. The FBI vault is a website

(27:09):
where you can access actual FBI material. So I've been
going through the FBI vaulte and I've found documentation which
I'm going to go through now, and it's regarding the
investigation into these incidents relating to this group known as

(27:31):
the Finders. Now, some of the memos are heavily redacted.
There's been names taken out, and parts are blocked out,
so some of it is a little bit difficult, but
I'm going to go through some of the salient points,
so I'm going to read them. So this particular memo

(27:54):
begins and it says it's for a supervisory special Agent
blocked out, Squad C for Washington Metropolitan Field Office. It's
blocked out again, and it says Miami Division and senior Supervisor,
a resident agent blocked out, and then West Palm Beach Agency,

(28:15):
Miami Division, and the subject is the Finders Group, White
slave traffic acts, sexual exploitation of children, obstruction of justice,
preliminary inquiry, And it goes on to say that the
Department of Justice has requested the FBI conductor plumbinary inquiry

(28:39):
into allegations made by and then the names blocked out
concerning child sexual abuse by a group known as the Finders,
and what role, if any, was played by the United
States intelligence community, So we need to keep that in mind.
By separate communication, the Washington Metropolitan Field Office will be

(29:02):
provided with available documentation received to date from the Department
of Justice concerning and then it's again another word blocked
out allegations, and it says united States Customs Service, and
then again it's blocked out. The United States Custom Service Headquarters, Washington,

(29:22):
DC again blocked out, and then it says also possesses
documentation concerning the Finders, which is to be obtained by
the Washington Metropolitan Field Office. The following information is being
provided as background in the matter of Washington Metropolitan Field
Office and Miami. And then it says in nineteen eighty seven,

(29:45):
then there seems to be two sentences now that were
blocked out, it says, and then it goes on to say,
we're convicted of sexually abusing children. One of the children
who attended the school during the time of the alleged
abuse was doesn't give the name. And then it says
again there's lines blocked out, and it's hard to You've

(30:05):
got to start piecing this together, and it takes a
while to go through it, but you start building up
a picture with some of the some of the stuff
that's left in. It says, after the imposition of the
prison sentences on both, so obviously there's going to be
names there. And it's again redacted out because obviously this
would be dynamite if people's names were in there. Then

(30:28):
it says, became convinced that numerous other children had been
abused and that the abuse was part of a large,
organized scheme, a well organized scheme. It actually says, these
are FBI documents. This is what I'm reading. It's the
Federal Bureau of Investigation. It's their documents on these investigations

(30:52):
regarding child abuse and child exploitation. And it says subsequently,
and it's obviously a name again that's been brought out
as attempted to interest congressional members and the United States
Customs Service in his efforts to enhance efforts in the

(31:13):
area of child sexual abuse and investigating claims of organized
sexual abuse. During October nineteen ninety three, and then again
there was a name, it says, with the United States
Congressman Rose of Florida to discuss allegations concerning a group

(31:34):
known as the Finders. Both Congressman Rose and and then
a name against Gone subsequently provided information concerning these allegations
to the Department of Justice. An FBI indices search revealed
a reference to the Finders, and then it gives the
file name. A review of this file indicated that the

(31:56):
FBI and Jacksonville had conducted investigation resulting from an arrest
of two individuals in Tallahasse, which is the one that
I referred to, where the two men were arrested in
the park, and it says the two subjects could not
sufficiently provide sufficient information as to the legal custody of

(32:21):
the children, and we're very uncooperative regarding their identity and
the children's identity. And as a result of the information
developed during these arrests that I think it's a Tampa
police or something. It's hard to read some of it.
Some of it sometimes the types missing slightly, so you'll

(32:45):
forgive me when I'm reading this. It is very difficult.
These are photo copies of original documents that are online,
and obviously, like I said before, there's some parts heavily redacted.
There's some parts of these memos that are handwritten and
they're almost impossible to read, but I'm going to do
my best to paint the picture to you. It goes

(33:06):
on to say that the Metropolitan Police Department, Washington DC
provided information concerning blocked Out and their association with a
group known as the Finders based in Washington, d C.
The Metropolitan Police Department executed search warrants prepared by the
United States Attorney's Office Districts of Columbia on two properties

(33:29):
owned by the Finders in the Washington DC area, and
then it goes on about a special agent doesn't give
his name from the United States Customer Service and they
participated in the searches. A joint investigation conducted by the
MPD Metropolitan Police Department and the Washington Metropolitan Field Office

(33:51):
lead to the identification and interview of the mothers of
six of the children and two of the fathers, and
several other key members of the Finders group. The w
m FO, which is obviously the Washington Metropolitan Field Office,
presents the results of their investigation to the Assistant United

(34:11):
States Attorney doesn't give the name the United States Attorney's
Office for the District of Columbia, and then it says
that the declined prosecution for violation of Title eighteen US
Cord Section one two zero kidnapping and two two five

(34:31):
one sexual exploitation of children. So they were basically they
weren't going to be prosecuted. Although these two men had
been found with these children in this condition and did
shown signs of sexual abuse, it was decided by the
United States Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia in

(34:53):
Washington there wasn't going to be a prosecution. Department of
Justice reviewed the United States Custom Service documents and indicates
that during the execution of the search warrants by the
Metropolitan Police that the two finders' properties the United States

(35:15):
Customs Service, and there's a name missing claims to absorb
observed a substantial amount of computer equipment and documents purportedly
containing instructions for obtaining children for unspecified purposes. The instructions
allegedly included impregnation of female members of the community, purchasing children,

(35:41):
trading children, and kidnapping them. And then there's a heavily
redacted paragraph, well two paragraphs, three paragraphs because of God
to the next page. It's three paragraphs. That's all reacted,
so clearly it's pretty much dynamite that And so then
after the redacted paragraph, it says has alleged that the

(36:03):
finders are involved in a well organized child abuse scheme,
and that and it's missed out again in conjunction with
the State Department and the FBI's Foreign counter Intelligence Section,
they conspired to cover up these abuses. So the FBI

(36:26):
is saying in the memo that the State Department and
the FBI's own Foreign counter Intelligence Section that they conspired
together to cover up this group's involvement in well organized
child abuse. The United States Custom Service again bought out,

(36:49):
should be contacted by the Washington Metropolitan Field Office to
obtain complete documentation concerning the finders. The investigation by the
WMFO in this matter will also involve the interview of
and then it gives its obviously two names and the

(37:09):
review of any documentation in the possession of blocked out again,
and then says the State Department, Passport Office, and Foreign
counter Intelligence Division. So that's the first section of a memo. Now,
as I'm scrolling further down because I'm you can't, I

(37:32):
can't seem to print these offs. So I've been reading
them online while i'm recording this, and there is a
particular memo and it's very difficult to read because of
the handwriting. It's it's terrible handwriting, but some I can
actually pick out when I'm reading it that the CIA

(37:53):
are mentioned in conjunction with this group the finders. So
there's mention of the CIA. And as a scroll further down,
because it's a large document, there's there's I mean, just
in this first part there's over three hundred and twenty

(38:13):
two pages. Now, like I said before, there was claims
that there was large amounts of evidence obtained on computers
and everything, like I've just been reading. But I'm just
gonna go further down now to some further memos that

(38:36):
are further down the document. And this particular document subjects
regarding kidnapping. And it starts it says on the second well,
the eighteenth February nineteen eighty seven, the National Center for
Missing and Exploited Children provided the writer with the attached

(39:00):
memorandum and a review of the random reflects obvious and
it's blocked out again observed of what was in fact
recovered by the Metropolitan Police Department during the execution of
the warrants art and then the whole addresses blocked out,
and there's a large section blocked out again, and it

(39:22):
says the memorandum was brought to the attention of so
it clearly named someone but from the Metropolitan Police, and
they handled the matter. And it says advise the writer
that a thorough review of all evidence obtained from the
two aforementioned locations did not produce any of the items

(39:43):
described in the examples cited above, and the advised no
evidence of child sexual exploitation or any related crime was obtained,
and that there was no computerized list ordering children. And
it says a copy of the memorandum was provided to
and then there's four large sections that are redacted. So

(40:08):
this particular memo, which is a two page memo, is
saying in contradiction to the memo that I read originally,
which they stated that during the initial search of the
warehouse and this other property, material was discovered a computer
images and instructions on how to kidnap children. This further

(40:30):
memo says that there wasn't any evidence like this. Well,
the earlier memo says that there was, so clearly something's
going to miss, hasn't it. During the transfer of the
evidence gathered at the warehouse from whoever attended the warehouse

(40:50):
at the time for it. Then the next stage in
the chain of custody, it should have been passed on.
The police are meant to have a chain of custody.
Everything's evidence signed for the next person signs for it's
called the chain of custody. Well, that's clearly not taken place. Furthermore,

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the memo another memo again shows that evidence was obtained.
So we've got one saying it was then another memo
saying that it wasn't obtained, and it says on this

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other memo it says information obtained by the Department of
Justice was discussed and it's with the Metropolitan Field Office
and Miami sss RI A whatever that is West Palm Beach.
A teletype was prepared designating the WFMO as the origin

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in this matter. And then it goes on to say
that articles on the Lexus Nexus database concerning the finders.
These articles indicate that the Tellerhasse Police Department, Florida conducted
a traffic stop on the van containing the two men
and six children, and the two men were arrested and

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they would each charged with child abuse in the Correspondence Unit.
The FBI HQ advised that they had no reference in
their files concerning the Finders. The State Department office files
pertaining to the Finders. A written request the format will

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be prepared. I said, it's quite difficult. These are all
bullet points in these reference point in these memos. This
bullet point in this same memo again says Jacksonville advised
that JK was involved in an investigation with a group
known as the Finders in nineteen eighty seven, and this

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case involved the recovery of the six children in Tallahassee, Florida,
and they were traveling in a van with two grown
males not related to them. The FBI participated in the
arrest of these two individuals, who were charged locally with
one count of child abuse and then a name again
blocked out. Advises that many allegations have been made regarding

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child sexual abuse in this case, but none were proven,
and it appears that there was parental consent for the
children to travel with these individuals. The children were subsequently
returned to their parents and the subjects spent ten days
in local jail and they were then released. So they
were released without charged. There was ordered to be no prosecution.

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Evidence that had previously said to have been obtained has
gone missing, although another document says that there was some
and this is the document that says that some material
was recovered, says subsequently, the Tallahasset Police Department, making the
traffic stop of the van, determined that these two men

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belonged to a group known as the Finders. As a
result of this information developed by the Tampa Police during
the traffic start, that are sorry the Tallahasset Police. The
Tallahasset Police contacted the Washington Metropolitan Police Department, and the
WMPD developed information that was subsequently utilized to obtain a

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search warrant for the warehouse and the residents located in Washington,
d C owned by the Finders. US Customs and the
WMPD participated in this search and in its box out
again and then it says noted that approximately seven computers
and numerous computer flopping discs were seized during the search,

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and it says he did not participate in any subsequent
review of the material. Again, there's another memo saying even
stating what it is with seven computers, but a previous
memo says there was no evidence obtained. Something fish's going
on here. George Bogasso, Section Chief of the Child Child

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Exploitation Obscenity Section, Department of Justice advised that the Department
of Justice has a book of material on the finders
and the additional material will be made available for review
by the FBI. Representatives of the Violent Crimes Unit will
meet with him. Goes on again, this other regarding the

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orestodes two men, and it says the two subjects with
the children could not initially provide the information. Again, it's
a similar sort of thing. They were uncooperative regarding the identity.
Goes on to say the subjects were stayed. The FBI
got involved, and then it says there was a joint

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investigation by the Metropolitan Police of Washington the FBI, and
they identified the mothers and two of the fathers. Some
have obviously some of this is repeated. These are but
these are separate memos. It goes on to say that
on the property owned by and then it says Virginia

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police search warrants did not produce evidence of federal or
state violations, so there was some searches executed at another property,
and it says that there was no federal or state
violations of the law concerning sexual exploitation of children. However,
it appears that the children found in Florida, the ones

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that were with the two men in the park, that
they had previously lived at that location in Virginia, so
it seems that they're being moved around. I'm just going
to go to another page now. This this page is

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it's the House of Representatives. It's a photocopy the Congress
of the United States, the House of Representatives. But before
I read that, I've just overlooked something at the bottom
of this particular memo. But basically on one of these

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memos here, just let me find it's regarding a particular sergeant,
and this particular man is dead now, and it says
that he was basically warned off the investigation. John Steiker deceased.

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It says also advised that, like I said prior to it,
if you forgive me, if it's difficult to follow, it's
difficult to read because a lot of it's missing, like
I keep saying. So I'm reading and obviously it's I'm
starting part way through sentences and paragraphs because of all
the information that's missing. So it says also advised that

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he had been told that the documentation had been located
in the WMPD fiules to indicate that Sergeant John Sticher deceased,
So they've named him because he's deceased, who had been
his sergeant during the finders search, had been contacted by
a blocked out who had told him to step away

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from the finder's case. So there's missing evidence someone investigating
the case has been contacted by someone who's really high
up and told him to step away from the case.
I'll go on now to that document. I'm talking about
the Congress of the United States. So basically what this

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document shows is I'll read what it says first and
I'll just explain. There's like a bit of a table
on it. But he says in February nineteen ninety one,
the US Customs integrated the Child Pornography and Protection Unit
into the Smuggling Investigations Division of the Investigative Programs. At

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the time, the Customs stated that these changes have in
no way affected the manner in which child pornography investigations
are being conducted by your field offices or the support
that's our headquarters staff provides. I asked the Customs to
provide me with arrest, convictions and employee I was spent

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on child pornography and protection. Numbers show dramatic an inexcusable decline.
So it has year nineteen eighty eight arrest one hundred
and six convictions, one hundred, employee hours forty seven thousand,
seven hundred and seventy two. The next year it goes
up to employee hours fifty four thousand, six hundred and third,

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so it's increasing now. In nineteen ninety it was employee
hours investigating these types of crimes was up to one
hundred thousand, five hundred and twenty four. Then the following
year it took a very large decline down to sixty
one thousand, one hundred and seventy three employee hours, and

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again in nineteen ninety two it plummeted again to twenty
seven thousand, four hundred and thirty five. So from having
one hundred and thousand, over one hundred thousand hours spent
by employees investigating child pornography and kidnapping and all these things,

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it dropped in a two year space to twenty seven,
four hundred and thirty five, So they just basically cut
in investigation into such a serious matter as that and
this is obviously come from a high level. Now I'm

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just gonna go through the actual there's a document that
just quickly shows the chronology of this finder's sort of investigation.
So it says contact of the US Customs Telehassee Police
Department regarding discovery of unidentified children and adult male guardians
in City Park requested contact with Washington MPD for assistance

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in locating possible address of relatives of children. Address located
with assistance of MPD in Intelligence Division. Second address identified
one residence, one warehouse, search warrants obtained by MPD Intel
warehouse site and previous MPD Intel inquiry involving classified maps
of underground tunnels and sewer system Washington, DC. During the

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search warrant staging disclosure of pending search warrant execution may
be a TELEHASSEPD to the local media tellahasseen media representative.
Contact DC Media for more details. DC Media reps pursued
public information at courthouses and are waiting at the search
warrant sites for the MPD search teams. Search warrants executed

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with the MPD and two US Customs agents, one at
each site. FBI not involved until walked through a following
day seizure of numerous documents to include passports, telexis, computer
and electronic media correspondence. So again they saying in this

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memo there was stuff, but it went missing. After the
search warrant shut down. On the first day, news reports
carried FBI press release announcing the FBI as lead investigation agent.
Day after one, search resumed, FBI agent from Warrington at
Washington Field office makes walkthrough of warehouse but does not

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examine any evidence. Additional search one executing and Forming Rural
Virginia with support by Virginia State Police. No federal involvement.
Evidence of Satanic cult ritual discovered based on observed documents.
Customs agents unsuccessfully attempts to gain access to evidence for

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detailed analysis analysis for use in investigating possible Export Neutrality Act,
Man Act and child pornography violations. So again does obstructions
being put in place to gaining information regarding child sex exploitation.

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M M M HM M M. Apologize to any of

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listeners who found it hard to follow in that last segment,
but it was very difficult documents to read with so
much information being blocked out, and I wasn't able to
print it off, so I was scrolling through as I
was recording. But I hope it gave you an overall
picture of this, this investigation and some of the corruption.

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So how does all that link this group de finders,
Jeffrey Epstein, and the CIA. Well, firstly, I think I
need to define what is meant by direct evidence and
circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence is when person A sees person

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B with a gun and he sees them shoot person C,
so it's straightforward. Circumstantial evidence is when person A sees
person B and person C the enter a shed. Person

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A then hears a gunshot. Person A then sees person
BE exit the shed. Person A then goes into the
shed and sees person C lying on the floor in
a pool of blood. Now, it would be reasonable to
conclude that Gerson B has shot person C, although person

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A did not actually see that take place. However, it
would be a reasonable conclusion to the evidence. So let's
look at the circumstantial evidence. In two thousand and five,
Epstein's Palm Beach property was raided by the FBI in

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regards to the allegations made of sexual abuse of the
fourteen year old girl the FBI, when searching the property,
realized that the items had been removed from the house
prior to the search, including computers. Now, the FBI concluded
that Epstein had been tipped off prior to the raid.

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Alexander Acosta, an attorney and former secretary of laboring Donald
Trump's administration, said he was ordered by higher up US
government officials to broker a lenient plea deal. I mentioned
it before for Epstein because he was told of his
importance and that he belonged to intelligence. So basically, Epstein

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literally just got no more than a slap on the wrist,
essentially for sexually abusing a fourteen year old girl. Now
what sickens me is who thinks that that's acceptable to
simply just hand him what was no more than a

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slap on the wrist. Because he is involved in the
intelligence world, Who higher up decides to make a decision
like that when he's sexually abused a young girl, another
human being, an image bearer of God, he traumatized her,

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and someone whose moral compass is way off forty sex
acceptible to warn this Alexander Acosta to broker a lenient deal.
Epstein had been in a relationship with Gillem Maxwell, daughter
of Robert Maxwell. The suspected Triple agent. Now Robert Maxwell

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died in suspicious circumstances himself. He went missing off his
yacht in the Atlantic Ocean off the Canary Islands. Maxwell
was afforded a lavish funeral in Israel and it was
attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yixak Shamir, Israeli President seam Herzog,
and at least six serving and former heads of Israeli

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intelligence and many dignitaries and politicians, both government and opposition.
And he was buried on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem.
Epstein had also told Stephen Hoffenburg that via Maxwell, he
was involved in something that described as national security issues,

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which he says involved blackmail, influence, trading, training information at
a very high level that is very serious and very dangerous.
Epstein mixed with many powerful and influential people who he
took on Epstein's plane, which Epstein himself called the Lalita Express.

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Whenever used to hide this thing called it Lo Thelita Express,
and the local people who lived in the area on
the island they actually named the island where Epstein took
these influential people and these young girls. They called it
Pedophile Island. Some of the rich and powerful people include

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Bill Clinton, who traveled with Epstein in two thousand and
two and two thousand and three, Kevin Spacey. Donald Trump
was also an associate of Epstein, Bill Gates, Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, and Prince Andrew. As we all know in

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the UK after he was convicted Epstein, Prince Andrew was
seen with him, so even though Prince Andrew knew he
was a convicted sex offender, still was associating with him.
Though all these people were named by the Epstein's former

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pilot of nearly thirty years, Larry Visovski or Lawrence Paul
Visoski Junior, and he piloted the Bow in seven twenty seven,
which is Epstein's private jet. Now documents obtained by the
Wall Street Journal showed that after Epstein's conviction for the
sex crimes in two thousand and eight, that, along with

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other people that he met, he actually went on to
have meetings with the then director of the CIA. The
CIA and possibly Mossad had linked with Epstein. And it's
important to note that the US and the Israeli interest
are very very closely aligned. The two Finders' men arrested

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in the Tallahassee Park were By the seventeenth of March
nineteen eighty seven, they were released from custody by the
Tallahassee Pleas for lack of evidence. The children were returned
to the mothers, and the whole thing was dismissed as
a terrible misunderstanding made worse by miscommunication and sensationalism. The

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story would have ended there were it not for the
US Customs Special Agent Ramon Martinez. Martinez and Senior Special
Agent Bob Harold had assisted and executed the search warrants
at the Finders' properties. Martinez claimed in a memorandum that
numerous documents were discovered which appeared to be concerned with

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international trafficking in children, high tech transfer to the United Kingdom,
and international transfer of currency. After multiple attempts to review
this evidence, including arranging a meeting with the Metropolitan Police
Detective James Bradley, that's the Metropolitan Police in London, Martinez

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claimed that he was told by an unnamed third party,
believed by independent journalist Elizabeth Voss to have been MPD
Sergeant George Stitcher, who I mentioned who had been warned
off the case that it's said that all the passport
data had been turned over to the State Department. The

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investigation into the finders had become a CIA internal matter,
and the MPD report had been classified as secret and
was not available for a review. Intelligence services such as
the CIA, MI six and MOSSAD use tactics of disinformation

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and blackmail, and one common tactic is the honey trap.
It was commonly used in Northern Ireland on soldiers, used
to lower them to places, girls would chap them up
and everything, and then the ir get involved. And it's
also often involved secret agencies getting close to a particular

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high level target, such as a high level politician, and
it's usually an agent themselves, so maybe a female agent
or whatever. They would seduce them and have sex with
them and then this would be captured on either video
or still photographs. The target would then be told by
another agent at some point about what they'd been up

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to and told them now that they belonged to the
intelligence organization and they would now do what they were told,
or the evidence of their wrongdoing would be made public.
And this is something that's happening now with children. It

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used to happen with politicians back in the years when
it was illegal to be homosexual if they were homosexual,
or did set them up with another homosexual and be
filmed or whatever, and then they'd be worn. Listen, we
know what you've been doing. We've got evidence. You belong
to us. Now. The Finders and Jeffrey Epstein were both

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being used by the Intelligence services as part of a
global trafficking network that supplies children to high level individuals
in order for them to sexually abuse them. This is happening.
These high level individuals are then advised that they've been
videoed or photographed carrying out these wicked abuses, and now

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they're compromised and they will do what they're instructed by
the intelligence services. Now, most of these children, the unaccompanied
children that they're taken from third world countries, the traffic
across the world, they're basically orphans, so no one's going
to miss them. The CIA and other intelligence services, in

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conjunction with the cabals the traffic children around the world.
Human trafficking for sexual exploitation is estimated to be worth
approximately one hundred billion dollars globally. Only the drug trade
is more profitable. In the terms of the crime world. Now,

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anyone is rightly outraged with this abominable practice that's going on.
It's a network right elligence services stealing children, the stealing
children for their own ends to use to bribe people

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and blackmail them. How wicked is that. But one of
the things that I've been thinking about over the last
few days is that if you don't believe that there's
a God, and you just believe we come from nothing,
then you don't actually have any kind of right or

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reason to be outraged. And what I mean by that
is this that if you don't believe that God created
human beings and that were created in him its image,
and that basically would just matter emotion, then murder isn't murder.
It's just killing. And rapes not rape, it's just sex.

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But as a Christian, I believe that man mankind was
created in the image of God, with the image bearers
of God. Each individual person, the soul, is worth more
than the whole world put together. That murder is murder,
it's not just killing. Killing a human being is murder,

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and raping them is a capital offense. Stealing them men's stealing.
In the Bible, it's called men's stealing when they take
someone from somewhere a country of origin and they take
them away for purposes various purposes. It might just be
to work them as a slave or sexual exploitation. But
such behavior is actually a capital crime, and God says

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that such people should be put to death. There should
be the death penalty for vapists, and there should be
the death penalty for murderers. I take comfort in this
fact Looke chapter twelve, verse two to three. For there

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is nothing covered that shall not be revealed, neither hid
that shall not be known. Therefore, whatsoever you have spoken
in darkness shall be heard in the light, and that
which you have spoken in the ear in the closets
shall be proclaimed upon the housetops. Isaiah chapter twenty nine,

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verse fifteen. War unto them that seek deep to hide
their counsel from the Lord, and their works are in
the dark. And they say, who seeth us? Who knoweth us? Well?
The Lord sees them, He sees these children being trafficked,

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and there will be final justice in the end. Epstein
right now is burning in the fires of hell. This
has been a heavy topic, and in one way, I'm
glad to get it over with, but it's an important
topic and these works of darkness need exposing. People don't

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want to believe that this type of thing is taking
place because it rocks the world. It takes them out
of their comfort zone. But this is happening. Intelligence services,
the cabals that involved people are high levels are abusing
children on a massive scale. Thank you all for listening.

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