October 27, 2025 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Welcome to the third annual Halloween Recommendations episode of Bill
and Ashley's Terror Theater.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
On the Marquee.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This week is twenty thirteen's WNUF Halloween Special and nineteen
ninety six is Bordello of Blood. Join us right after
we get back from trying to find Shadow the Cat.
He's probably at the brothel all that after these ads
we have no control over.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome back. I'm Ashley Coffin.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Joined us always by my co host in Terror, Bill Bria,
Bill Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
How are we today?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We are pretty great. We're feeling festive, We're feeling spooky.
So let me see Welcome back to the Bill and
Ashleys too or Theater Halloween Special. And then I want
to see if I can do this in one breath.
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Why is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Because I advanced a singular theory that the perpetrator of
our crimes is an eternal spirit who sustains itself solely
through the intake of human heboglobin through a set of
protracted fangs. When he dropped that line, I was like,
oh shit, Dennis, so we are talking about it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We're going to talk about it before we get into
our recommendations. Bill has a couple tidbits from the Necronomicon
of horror this week.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you go for us?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
First, is this a farewell at a rest in peace
to actress Samantha Egger. She passed away this past week
as of our recording right now, at the age of
eighty six. She's most famous amongst genre fans for being
the mother Nora in David Cronenberg's The Brood, which is
one of my favorite films and hopefully yours as well.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like The Brood.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, it's a pretty superlative performance. So if you've ever
seen that movie, you will remember Samantha Eggar.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
In addition to playing Nola Carvith, she's also appeared in
a lot of other genre movies, including The Dead Are Alive, Demonoid,
The Uncanny, The Exterminator, and another superlative Canadian freak out
horror movie called Curtains, which.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Again, oh, I've seen You've ever seen Curtains? You know Curtains.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
She was also in nineteen sixty five is the Collector
of Opposite Terrence Stamp, which is a movie I still
need to see. I've heard and read about for years
and years, but she was Oscar nominated for that performance.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh well, I have not seen it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And yes, it's where Terrence Stamp is not a serial
killer but kind of a Norman batesy ish type where
like he collects things and then he starts collecting people,
and she's the person. She was also in the nineteen
sixty seven version of Doctor Doolittle. She voiced Hara in
Disney's Hercules. She was also in the Phantom, The Astronaut's Wife,
episodes of Star Trek Next Generation and so.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
On and so forth.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So she she was, you know, out there in the
genre space for a long time, and she's one of
those actors who always elevated the material that she was in. Uh.
She had that sort of I don't know, English actress
kind of you know, a sila. So yeah, definitely check
out her stuff if you've never seen her in anything,
but there's chance that you've seen her in something already.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So how old was she eighty six?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So pretty yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Another little tidbit I have is that John Carpenter, you know,
he's still not making a feature. He's adding his he's
adding his name to more new projects every day, seems
like and so he's added his name to and an
executive producer credit to a new horror anthology series called
John Carpenter Presents.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is this that thing that we've been talking about for
a long time now?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know. I mean it was like I remember.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The picture was like a cul de sac of houses,
and it was like something he was doing, like Schworts
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, well he's feel like we've been talking about this
for like two.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like John loves to get a paycheck. We know this,
So like he has added his name or as an
executive producer credit to so many different things over the years,
like comic books, video games. Of course, it depends on
how interested he is and how involved he wants to
be the only reason I bring this up in particular
is because it reminds me, of course, of John Carpenter's
Body Bags, which was the feature which I believe was
(04:22):
originally intended to be a pilot for, you know, another
John Carpenter produced mythology series that just then got turned
into like sort of a creep show anthology movie. And
so this one is it's going to be shot and
you know, and we're made in Canada, of course, Canada
Create Canadia by show owners Michael Amo and Will Pasco.
(04:44):
The latter worked on Orphan Black, So that's a name
at least, And I think from this description that I'm reading,
it says set in the remote wilderness of Alaska. The
first season, we'll explore the hidden fears and social anxieties
of our time as a diverse group of characters face
a chilling mix of supernatural and existential terror. So it
sounds like it's an anthology in the sense of like
(05:04):
each season is a different story, but it's a full
story through.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The like American horror story or.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Not anthology like Tales from the crypt Okay, Okay, so
we'll see apparently that's gonna happen in the next few months. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Which show just took place in Alaska?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That was like True Detective, which is also the anthology thing. Yeah, God,
I still will die on the cross that. The first
season of that show was like peak TV. The first
season is the best ship I have ever watched.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, No, that that was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think that came along at that time when like
there was just so many bangers, especially in HBO and
that thing. Yeah, you can't you can't recapture that lighting
in a bottle. As the rest of the series has shown,
they've tried, they've tried, they've tried, and I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But it's been okay, but I haven't. Nothing else has
ever hit like nothing you get that way that season,
No other show like, oh my god, it's so good.
The only thing that might come not even like like
that's at one hundred percent. This comes in at like
seventy five. Was The Outsider? That was great too.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't think I saw it The Outsider.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's a one shot Stephen King thing on HBO oh
with Ben Mendelssohn heading Oh, I love BENJ Jwson.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Very good. It was very good. I think Jason Batement's
in it for a minute.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh all right, yeah cool?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Or Jason Bateman directed an episode two. There's a lot
of Yeah, you should check it out. I feel like
I was just talking about that. I do so many
podcasts of course, of.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Course, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right cool.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The last little bit I had is specifically because as
soon as they read it, I was like, I have
to talk to Ashley about this, because there's a certain
I don't know, subset or section of fans of horror
of thrillers that really enjoy the thriller movies that they'll
make for.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The Lifetime channel.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay, and Lifetime just announced their lineup of these new
original holiday movies that they'll be doing for Christmas this year,
and it's Lifetime. Most of them are not thrillers, you know,
they're not Hallmark, but you know, kind of round commy
sort of you know, yeah on things. But one of
them it's a little bit different. It's a Christmas themed
thriller and it's called Do You Fear What I Fear?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I love that. I can't believe nobody has done that yet.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
A beautiful title.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, life to appreciate that title, and the official description
goes like this. In Do You Fear What I Fear?
When Claire played by Ciara or Kiara Hannah lands her
dream job in the city, she believes she's finally escaped
her Christmas hometown. That's until holiday decorations start appearing in
her home unannounced, each one with a message from someone
close to her. The thriller must decide who the secret
(07:41):
Santa truly is and escape her haunted holiday Jesus Christ. Okay,
that premiere is on Thursday, December fourth of this.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All the things that could happen, extra gifts and like
decorations showing it. You know how expensive decorations are, I'd
be like, cool, Santa's going out front.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I love that this is already giving me like, uh,
female Scrooge vibes of like I kind of am singing like, Okay,
I hate Christmas because my hometown sucks and I don't
like my hometown.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I don't want any Christmas decorations in my house.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And then she's gonna learn learn, She's gonna learn the
meeting of Christmas.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're gonna show it right down throat or else.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, fruitcake, egg dog Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So hopefully this movie is his can't be fun? Is
that title promises?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And if it's not, they will let us all down
and we will have to get mad at them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But hopefully you let me know you plan on a watch.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't have the Lifetime channel anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I haven't had TV for a lifetime app. I have
not heard are they streaming through TV? I know?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh, well, then it'd be free. Can we shout out
to be to be?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You're the best. Shout out to be to be?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You are the absolute best to be has all the
weird ship that I used to feel like watch in
the middle of the night or rent in the late
nineties from my weird like Little Random Spot, not West
Coast Video or block Buster, but like the video Den.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They have all of it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have all the subspecies, which we talk about Paranormal
Activity being our longest episode.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
When you finally watch.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
All of those, we have to get that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh, everybody better blockle the fuck up because we're going to.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Be here for a while. Oh he's gonna hate it. Sorry,
four hour episode.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
She's always like, why do you like this?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I love the score, I love the vampires. I love
everything about it.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yell the story.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This episode's going to come out the week of Halloween, right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, Halloween's on a Friday, so like a little bit
before you.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well for sure, I know that the embargo will be
up by then for this, So let me just say
I've seen most of the first season and welcome to
dry and it's pretty rad. So if you like it,
if you like it, definitely check it out. But the
one I really want to shout out is something I
just wasn't prepared for, even though I knew it was
going to be worthwhile watching because it's from Vince Gilligan,
(10:00):
his new show Pluribus on what on Apple TV no
longer plus they're changing their their name from Apple TV
plus to Apple Just TV. But yeah, it's it's actually
kind of a genre show. So it feels like Vince
Gilligan returning to his X Files roots, which is pretty sweet,
you know, post breaking bad, post better Call Sault and
(10:20):
ray Sea horns the lead and Cheese great of course
in it. So yeah, if you're looking for sort of
seasonal watchings of television that's happening in the next a
few weeks, definitely check those out.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Nice, I don't have Apple pluss. Yeah, it's too many,
it's too many. Yeah, you gotta pick and choose.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I guess they don't do like a bundle like Disney
does with Hulu or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Right yeah no, damn.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, Well, we'll be back with our feature films after
these miss ups from the grave that we have no
control over. And now it is time for our feature films.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, so welcome back, and it is time for our
annual Halloween recommendations. Even though we have to get int
the wa a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Mine's yours is perfect, Mine's a little adjacent. And I
didn't pick mine until I put it on on Tuesday
night and I was like, oh, yeah, this is the
movie that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I had a completely other movie pick.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I do think that Bordella of Blood because I, as
as Ashley knows, I saw it for the first time
because of her this week. It's definitely a movie of like,
when you're watching it, you're like, oh, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm so glad that you Because I didn't know, I
never know what you're like. I can assume that you're
gonna like it a movie that I, you know, tell
you to watch.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's something where, like I understand why it got the
reputation that it did when it came out, because, as
I told Ashley, for the longest time, I've been a
huge super fan of Tales from the cryptemon Night and
Tales from the Crypt in general. Like I did, I
watched all of the first three seasons of the show.
For some reason, Night to stop around season four, I
guess because the video store I was renting from didn't
have the DVDs or whatever, and I never got back
(11:55):
on the horse, you know. So because they only went
for five seasons, I think, Oh, I don't know, anyway,
at some point I'll watch the rest of the series.
But anyway, those first three seasons are great. And of
course Demon Knight, because Demon Night was one of those
movies that not even just growing up when I was,
you know, watching it as a fan, but also when
I was working at Hollywood Video for whatever reason, every
(12:16):
employee of the video store that I worked at was
just like a huge fan of Demon Night, so we
would just always put it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, who's not I love that movie so much. Yeah,
getting to see it at the drive in last year
was fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh that's gotta be read.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So for whatever reasons, I guess when Bordello Blood came out, like,
I guess it was the whole like Dennis Miller thing
because at that point, I guess he was already kind
of off SNL and he was already.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Sort of like in this weird space with his career.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, he was starting that show on HVA, he was.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Starting the show on HBO.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, he was actually in a pretty popular he was
he was pretty Dennis Miller.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, well, then maybe it's not him. Maybe it was
just like the tone of the movie or something. Something
happened around the movie when it released. Oh you know what,
it probably was because this was the same year as
From Dust Till Dawn, wasn't it maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Six?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, so I think Desttal.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dawn really stole this movie's thunder in terms of like, oh,
sexy vampires at a brothel and it's funny, like okay,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I never thought about it that way because I just
see them. I see one as a they're just so
they're the same, but they're different.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, And I just wonder, like why this one got
such a bad reputation in the press.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean the press.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, we know the press wasn't a fan, but
I mean, like the fan circles or horror circles or whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Some people just were.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Really down on it, to the point where it gave
me the I hate to use this term because it's
so gen z, but the ick you know, where it's
like that thing like you just give me sorry ash,
I couldn't think of another expression, but you know that
sort of thing where like it just got enough of
a stink on it that was like, oh, I'll get
to that later, and I never did, And here we are.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
So I watched this movie in nineteen ninety six and
I never stopped, Like I was way too young to
see this movie for sure. Yeah, but I was already
watching from Dostill Dawn Fright Night. I knew the characters
lost boys, and that's my favorite. I guess we will
go start with Bordello Blood. My favorite thing about this
movie is watching two characters play their polar opposites live
(14:06):
with Corey Felman being you know, a vampire and with j.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
C or uh.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Chris Sarandon with Chris Sarandon playing not a vampire. And
I just really loved that as a kid because I
thought that that was funny. I used to watch Baywatch
as a kid, and so I knew what's her Face?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Even though.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Horn stars, I've always kind of been into that because
I loved What's her Face? From Blade to I just
thought it was funny that all these porn stars, well
Angie ever heard.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Of Excuse me, she's not a porn star, right, No? No, no,
she doesn't even get naked in this movie.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, I uh not porn. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, it's Playboy, Playboy Boy, I am a Now I'm
just a little girl.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I don't read this stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't Playboy is close enough.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You can call a Playboy playmate cacorn star, but like
it's I guess, so it's not the same thing exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, but there was.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Just something so campy, so gory, and just so perfect
about this movie that like, I mean, this is not
high art, you know, but guess what, it's Una pod.
It's so funny. It's just really funny. It's blood soaked.
And I thought that I love the vampires, like, I
think they're really fun.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's a really interesting story.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It is builds off of what I've already seen with
uh with the Key. The key is like the mcguffin
of this and that travels between the two movies, even
though we don't get a lot of exposition about how
they got the key.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right well, and it's not exactly the same key, even
though it looks and functions pretty much the same way,
but it doesn't really have like there's not in Demon Night.
It's the whole like you can make a seal out
of drops from of blood from it, you know, everything
they don't use.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It was like Jesus's Blood Jack.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Blood was part of it, and this I think, I
think it's more of a reference rather than like an
actual universe connection of like it's the exact same key.
Like I feel like they're just sort of you know, sure,
somebody behind the scenes, some producer or writer or somebody
was like, hey, what if all these tales from the
crit movies because they only did these.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Two, Yeah, we're obviously planning to do more.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What if they all are based around some sort of
key that looks the same, and like every movie will
have some sort of device where it like the key
will be the mcguffin and all that. It's a cute idea,
maybe more confusing than for its own good, because like,
if you try to reconcile, is this the same exact key,
and why does it work differently?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And why is it only for vampires and lilith rather
than deep.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, it's like maybe they didn't know how to use
it correctly. It's possible, but it did keep the vampires
in check. So Bordello Blood opens. Now, how you would
think We're on a little jungle expedition and the adventures
stumble on a hinten Tuo and unlock a coffin containing Lilith,
and you know, Lilith is the mother of all vampires.
(16:46):
She's also like the first which there's a lot of Lilith,
so it's like, bad move with you guys. And then
we just kind of like we see that the key
can kind of like keep her in check. And then
we flash forward to sleepy Town in the nineties where
local men are mysteriously disappearing, and the trail leads back
to a sketchy funeral home that just so happens to
double as a vampile vampire rent brothel, because of course
(17:09):
it does. And our unlikely hero is Raef Gotman, who
is Dennis Miller and is a sarcastic private investor gator
asshole who I just love him throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's like, you're going to get any of that stew
in your mouth? So many lines.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
He does feel more like a stand up comedian moonlighting
as a detective throughout this. So he's hired by Catherine,
a religious activist, to find her missing brother Caleb, who
is Corey Feldman, who went out one night and never
came home, and she works for Chris Randon's character JC
who's like one of those we'll get to the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So yes, he starts to put things together.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He finds, you know, there's this whole brothel of vampires,
there's undid bikers, and that we find out that JC
is working with Lilith to kind of like take out
bad people while making money. It's very sleazy, it's awesome.
It's just like a ridiculous storyline. But it's also it's
kind of like dextery. But it's also like, h if
(18:10):
you're going to a horrhouse, I don't think you deserve
to die, you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Know, yeah, right, It's it's something that like Tales from
the crypt as a show.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You know. Of course, this show, you know, was created.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
For HBO in the late eighties by a cadre of
you know name filmmakers.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You had Robert Semchis, Walter Hill, Richard Donner and they,
you know, were seeing what was happening with this rise
of anthology and horror stuff, like you know, starting with
Creep Show and Twilight Zone the movie, and then your
Tales from the Dark Side. By the late eighties you
had so many You had Friday the Thirteenth, the series,
you had Freddy's Nightmares. You had War of the Worlds
(18:49):
was an anthology series, you had Monsters. There was so
many the revival of the Twilight Zone, you know, in
the mid eighties, and I think this was these guys's
attempt to you know, make their own version but also
utilize the iconography and the ip and sort of vibe
of the old EC comics which were published by His
(19:12):
last name is Gaines. What's his first name. That's your job,
William Gaines. It's my name is William Gaines. I was
gonna say, it's not fred No, it's William Gaines. And
if you already knew this, maybe you did, or maybe
you didn't. It was specifically the EC comics of the
nineteen fifties, stuff like Tales from the Crypt or Vault
(19:35):
of Horror or you know, other lurid titles that were
indicted literally at the I think the Supreme Court level.
But it was this whole seduction of the innocent controversy
around you know, no censorship in comic books. And this
(19:55):
was this beginning of the Comics Code Authority, which was
like the sort of self pose, self regulated uh you
know MPAA for comic books. Essentially you know that that
kind of idea. So yeah, Tails from the Crypt had
a reputation already culturally as like, oh you know this
is the this is this the nasty stuff, Like you
want to see gore, you want to see some lurid
(20:17):
like sleazy stuff like read Tales from the Crypt. So
they were really trying to sort of, you know, yeah,
recapture that vibe for the late eighties on HBO, which
was a premium cable network and you could show a
lot of gore, and you could show a lot of
boobs and all that. So this movie maybe even more
I think, actually certainly more than Demon Knight, really way more.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't even think there are boobs in Demon Knight.
There's so many boobs.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
When uh, you know, when what's his name, Joe Dante's guy, Uh,
why can't I think of his name? This is Tara
Dick Miller when he goes into his fantasy of the bar. Yeah,
there's there's a ton in there, and there's little moments,
but ultimately yeah, yeah, absolutely Bordilla Blood in the Sleeves.
Content is just like ups the End a million and.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Then it's just like everybody, it's first time actress for
some of the people in this movie, especially the lead
of Lilis Like Angie slays this. She she's not this
great actor, but I love listening to her talk and
I like the way that she delivers all her lines.
She's very funny, just the way like how am I
doing lover you getting hot? Like, She's just so funny.
(21:22):
And the end of this oh, I could tell you
I could verbate on this movie. Back to you McCutcheon,
ooh deadly she sniffs her armpit. I did it because
this is you know, not video. You can't see that, like,
and it's so ridiculous. And all of this builds up
to this like fire filled showdown, complete with like vampires
laying gadgets, quips, body parts.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And yes, in the background, that is one of the
best scenes of all time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We've port into that.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And yeah, the crip keeper does pop in to bookend
the madness and his signature bad puns and cackles, which
is really fun because he's having that like card game
with the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, but yeah, he's great.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
There are some interesting connections to the history of this too,
which is the fact that Bob Gale and Roberts a
mechis who you know, famously were writing partners from the
time they graduated USC in the seventies and they they
wrote co wrote nineteen forty one for Steven Spielberg, and
then they made Used Cars and of course Back to
the Future, that whole trilogy. They wrote an early draft
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of this as this was going to be their breakout
film before they got hired to do or rather they
got the money to do I Want to Hold Your Hand,
which is about Beatlemania, which was their first film, and
so they wanted to make an exploitation film quote about
a whorehouse full of vampires. They pitched it to John
Millius in the seventies. It wasn't produced. They made nineteen
(22:42):
forty one instead, but Millius always liked the idea for
Burdello and kept you know, sort of the idea alive
in terms of, like, you know, bringing it up at
pitch meetings and whatnot. But yeah, when it finally came
to make a second Tales from the Crypt movie, the
producers were looking around for for options and they actually,
apparently according to Coming Soon in twenty fifteen, they actually
(23:07):
did consider from Dustill Dawn as a possible Tales from
the Grid film, So that's another connection which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That is interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, there's a lot of connections with our movies tonight,
because we just did Fright Night with Chris Suranne. Oh yeah,
and the Warrens are heavily implied in yours, and I
was just like, it's really funny, this little circle that
we've come around. Yeah, well, it's funny because with the
vampire stuff and the aesthetic of this movie, they did
a really good job with the lighting and the neon
(23:36):
crosses and the gothic funeral homes. So it's very different
from Dustill Dawn, which I like, but it also has neon.
It's just like you have your Mexican bordello and then
you have what would probably be like any town bordello,
and it's I swear I never looked at funeral homes
again the same after seeing these, because so many look
just like that and it would be a perfect place.
I love the little tidbit of them hiding the bodies
(23:58):
in the coffins.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And Dennis Miller's like reading the thing, she was like
died from a bacteria like.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Flesh eating disease.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, and it was like five people to carry it.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And he's like hah. But yeah, I mean this movie it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Doesn't take itself seriously for a second, and that's kind
of the fun of it. Everybody's really just doing a
great job. Dennis Miller is great in it, even though
I heard, like I did read he was kind of
an asshole on set, which does not He's playing himself,
so I was like, yeah, you're just you know, and
honestly that is kind of the charm because I do
kind of like him. Yeah, and he doesn't belong in
(24:35):
this world at all, but that kind of makes him
the perfect lens for us.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Now, this isn't a performance where it's like, wow, Dennis Miller,
he really has some depth to him. It's literally Dennis
Miller versus vampires. Like, if you are amused by that idea,
then you will love the hell out of this. And
if you will, if you aren't, then yeah, you're gonna
hate it because it's just literally that's what you get.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And Angie just be or you know, Lilith being so
into him and just not killing him the whole time
is so f funny.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
She's like she keeps calling him lover.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
It's just blood is like special or something.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, that's right, she's like, I haven't tasted that in
a millennium.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is gone or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's and the fact that
they got Chris Sarandon is really funny.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He's I think legitimately the best performance in the movie. Yeah,
you know, as you would expect because he's probably the
best actor out of all them, but his work as
this televangelist type with like electric guitar, it's something where
like even like in a post righteous Gemstones world. Yeah,
it's really really a really good you know, send up
of that archetype.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
What he's yelling at the sound people. He's like, this
is like and it's so and it's funny. It's like
character is very interesting because like by day he's doing
the salvation stuff and then he sells out humanity by night.
And his character is like the perfect takedown of like
that slimy religious hypocrisy.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And it's like but for good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Reasons, but also not because yeah it's not like I said,
it's not dexter.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But oh his death Chef's kiss. The deaths in this
are fantastic.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well there's also the thing that I thought of the
most when I was watching this, was it doesn't have
the same level of satire for me, but otherwise it
really does feel a lot like a Frank Kennon Lodder movie,
especially Franken Hooker, where oh yeah, by the end sequence
of them shooting everyone with holy water and the girls
(26:32):
just blowing up left and right, that's like the freaking
Hooker super crack scene. It's yeah, people, they're just exploding.
These women, these floozies are just.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Took ballroom bliss.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The soundtrack to this is so awesome. It's a lot
of heavy metal and then ballroom less. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, this wasn't even supposed to be the next Tales
from the Crypt movie.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
The Originally it was a film called Dead Easy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It was a voodoo themed zombie flick set in New Orleans,
but the studio thought the vampires would sell better, so
they pivoted.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I love everything New Orleans, but god, I love
this movie, so I'm not going to say anything. You
know that for me, they made the right choice. It
like Corey Feldman and Sarrandon.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Oh yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think that it's it's a indication or rather it's
a case of like a movie coming out that people
just weren't on the right wave length for I guess
the people maybe were thinking it was going to be
I don't know, a little more serious or a little
more scary, because scary wise, yeah, this isn't that scary.
But in terms of fun, like, it's just a ton
(27:33):
of fun. So I wonder if it was just people
sort of you know, turning up their noses that like, oh,
tails in the grip, that's so nineteen.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Eighty nine or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know, stupid, but.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's a shame.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I guess it always there was always going to be
a time when it had to sort of fade into
the background, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, but it is too bad that they couldn't go
a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And so Dennis Miller he wasn't into it, Like he
reportedly improvised most of his lines, which is par for
the course for him. He barely showed up to set,
and he demanded a huge paycheck at the end, which
kind of like cut in everybody else's budget.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So the crew didn't love that. So he did not
have any friends.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, and according to the filmmaker's Miller's lack of commitment
made shooting chaotic, but somehow it kind of worked like
he had that I'm too cool for this energy, and
that kind of does come across on screen, just this
whole like nay, what's up, but gobbr or whatever, all
the weird like the little things. So Angie Everhart had
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never done a horror movie before, and she was dating
Sylvester Stallone at the time, so her casting was a
big tabloid thing, like people were like, oh, so Velster
Stallone's girlfriend. And despite the inexperience, I think she kills
it literally and figuratively. She's so good in it. And
she looks so good.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, now there's no Yeah, you can't falterr looks. I mean,
she's just as ravishing as you would want that character
to be.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I love her voice.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, no, apparently.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And also other stuff that I just because I obviously
just watched this for the first time, so I did
a cursory little bit of research. But even watching the movie,
you could sort of tell that there was some discomfort
on at least a LENNIAX part if not Eleniac and
Everheart about the kind of love scene that the two have.
They don't really because it's not really a love scene.
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It's also very clearly like two doubles. It feels like
because neither of their faces are in frame, it's just
they're both you know, clothed, you know sort of thing.
So it's actually what's funny about it too, is the
fact that, not to give anything away, but the love
scene actually ends up becoming a bit of a plot
point later on. So it is something where it's like,
(29:40):
is it necessary to the script? Well kind of, but
I guess there was so much rewriting going on because
of Miller and the whole problem there, and yeah, Lenniac
was having issues with the producers and the writers and
Joel Silver and everything about like, you know, she wanted
to be taken seriously as an actress. She was getting
off Baywatch originally, maybe Catherine was originally written as a stripper,
I think I read, oh yeah, so not even a
(30:02):
religious you know, sort of a televangelist.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, she's always going to be Seannie McLain.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
To me, right, So yeah, I think this was just
unfortunately one of these like flashpoint movies where like a
lot was going wrong behind the scenes, where.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well, Angie everheart do you she was in the Last
Action Hero?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was what nineteen three eighty three. Yeah,
so I think that that probably added to like the
whole media stink around the movie when it came out,
where like, oh, there was like some behind the scenes
issues and you can tell or whatever you know that
people were you know, probably talking about at the time.
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And I think that you were saying ash, like it
is so unapologetic in its sleeves factor, and maybe if
there had been a couple other people involved that were
sort of like on board with that from the beginning,
like it would have been maybe a smoothie ride and
including Miller, you know, because I think I see Miller
was like his own you know, sort of snooty or whatever,
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like greedy, yeah, thing going on. But despite all that,
like it is still the ride that you kind of want.
It's not it's not a movie called Bardilla Blood and
there's no gore and there's no nudity.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's like, well yeah, I mean, because it's not. It
doesn't pretend to be something it's not. It's not trying
to win an oscar. It's trying to entertain. It's sexy,
it's stupid, it's smart and weird places, and it's just
endlessly quotable it's the kind of movie that you throw
on at like it's like a greasy piece of night.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's what I call this VI. Yeah, Like that's what I.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Used to watch it just pizza on Fridays with friends,
and it's exactly what I want, you know. Like, honestly,
I'll take Bordello Blood over any kind of like self
important slow burn.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
When I need a laugh, I will.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Always put this movie on and it's it's so messy
and it's so bloody, and it's so fun, and it
just reminds you like horror can be really fun.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And that's that's why this is my pick this year.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
And I think that to tie it into the theme,
like it's the sort of thing, you know, because Halloween
is a holiday, it's something you want.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
To sort of celebrate, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And obviously that means different things to different people, but
I think for us, it really is more about the
sort of the fun of the genre, you know, because
we as we've talked about literally on this show, every
time we watch horror year round.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There is no spooky season for us. It's like, oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Not gonna watch horror movie this month, Like we're watching
horror movies every week, if not every month, And so
I think for us, the Halloween vibe is less about oh,
this is the only time that we watch horror. It's
more let's watch the fun stuff because we're celebrating our
love of the genre.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, yep, yeah, okay, moving on.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Moving on.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So WNUF Halloween Special is something that I think I
came across in the way that you're supposed to, which
is that you, in a Blair witchy sort of way,
you're like, what is this is this way?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Is this real?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And then you know pretty quickly you're like, Okay, obviously
it's fabricated. But apparently one of the first ways that
they distributed this movie was on VHS copies that they
just left around certain venues, you know, film theaters, concert venues, whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
If they didn't have like the fast forwarding effect in there,
I would believe it a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think that's a little strange.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, but I guess that was their idea of like
a sort of grassroots, you know, in d campaign of
like hey, check it out.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
But I also think that this was I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Pretty sure this was a Kickstarter type deal too, right,
there was there was some crowdfunding involved, as well, but
do you have the the plot description?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
No, this was your film.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Oh okay, okay, I didn't research this at all.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I didn't know you were to research my film.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh no, of course, Well, yeah, no, I didn't know. Okay.
So this is directed by a bunch of people because
there's a lot of contributed contributors to it because of
the format of the of the movie, which is it
is supposedly a recording of a fake television station called
w n U Feen special that supposedly aired on October
(34:02):
thirty first, nineteen eighty seven. And so even so, people
like James Branscombe, Sean Jones, Scott mccobbin, Lonnie Marten, Matthew
Mentor and y Show contributed sort of a little bits
and pieces throughout because in between the actual Halloween special
they'll have these fake commercials. So it emulates what a recording,
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like a VHS recording of an actual broadcast from my
teen eighty seven might look like, except in order to avoid,
you know, obviously, any copyright issues or anything like that,
they weren't using They aren't using commercials.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
For real products.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
They're all fake commercials for fake products or in fake shows,
and a couple fake movies and that sort of thing.
But the main director is Chris la Martina, director and writer.
You also had a couple other co writers involved as well.
And so the special is about this newsman for w
ONUF called Frank Stewart who's decided to take the special
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broadcast live outside this house called the Weber House, which
I don't recall if they actually say what city this
is taking place in, I want to say somewhere about
west like you know, you can guess sort of like
Ohio or something.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Right, Well, it's it's Amityville. I mean, they're just it
might as well just be New York.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
You might as well just be upstate New York or
Connecticut or something.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But yeah, so it's this place called the Weber House,
which was the site of this brutal murder years earlier,
similar to the Tafeo murders in the Amityville that really happened,
and the suspected murderers supposedly, you know, had some sort
of summoning through a ouiji or rather he's sorry, he
was supposedly you know, hearing voices and that's why he
(35:44):
committed the murders. And so Stuart believes that if they
go to the house on Halloween night with some some
self styled experts in tow that they're called the Burgers
and like saying, they're very thinly veiled parody of Lorraine Warren.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Just like them.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, And so the idea is that you're going they're
gonna go into the house, they're gonna investigate, they're gonna
maybe you know, discover any sort of clues as to
the murders and why they happened. But the real gimmick
that Frank is pushing to the audience is that they're
going to capture evidence of the supernatural live on camera.
And that's why you should say tuned and that sort
(36:25):
of thing. So this is a movie, uh you know
that obviously harkens back to Ghostwatch, which was the infamous
you know BBC.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
All the time and I'm talking about them.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, and uh where ghost Watch is something that I'm
trying not to spoil it. There's just there's a distinct
element of the Supernatural and ghost Watch, whereas the thing
here is very similar but different. And I yeah, I
really appreciate the the the sort of twists and turns
(37:01):
that we have in this one because it's still very
kind of freaky, especially given the found footage aspect to it,
and you know, the sort of analogue like you know this,
if it was shorter, it could easily be a VHS
anthology segment.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, I honestly think it might do better. Yeah, as
that it's a little yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, no, it's it's something where yeah, it's if you
have a nostalgia for watching old you know, Halloween specials
or Christmas specials on VHS, like I would always watch
them up at family Christmas on our VHS cop Yeah
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
It is a little bit very nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, they did a great job of making it feel
like the eighties.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Five stars on that what ies do start to get
annoyed with the commercials even though they fast forward a lot,
they just keep going back to commercials, and it does
like I'm like, okay, this hour and twenty two minute
movie could be forty five minutes if we like, I
would still get the.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Point and it would just be more of the story.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But like the commercials start to get a little like
even they start fast forwarding them.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Right right because I'll have like recapsure or like that
thing that would happen often in real broadcasts, you'd see
the same commercial like three times or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah and that, and it's like, Okay, I get it.
And then by the end I'm like, oh my god.
But I think everybody does a really good job. I
think they're very funny. The guy playing Frank, he's great.
I love his attitude the entire time, making me laugh.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
He's just such an arrogant little shit like he really does,
like he.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Really just but he also I love the when they
shoot to the one guy and he's like, what do
you think about this? And he's like, people died in
this house because he has like a whole group of
townspeople around him. Little things like that were very funny
and felt very real.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I thought that the they're.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Trying to put a little bit of a story together
with other segments going on about there's this religious cult
who are Halloween deniers as much as they like hate Halloween,
and they're all very funny and like this the fake
TV shows like Galaxy Pilot, like it is funny.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And then the warrants come in.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm sorry, I mean the burgers and they brought their cat.
They brought their cat, and yeah, I mean they get
away with some shit because I thought I fell out
of my seat when he was like, well that's a
very pretty pussy.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That's the thing is that this movie is, I believe,
legitimately unrated, and so while it's not exceptionally like sleazy
or ribald or or.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Gory or violent, whatever, I think the fact that it it.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's obviously meant to be like a safe quote unquote
TV broadcast. Every so often there's a be a little
hint that like, oh, yes, this is like you know,
maybe this isn't completely safe, And I think that's really
fun part of it too well.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And it's like I had kind of the first time
watching it forgot like didn't you don't know obviously the
plot and I laughed when they're like there's no one
in this house. They're checking the seat because they go
in and they hear some footsteps running around and they're like,
who's here. They're checking with Veronica. Veronica's like, no one's here,
and then he's like, we brought up priest. Let's bring
him out, and this dude just comes from like a
spot around the corner, and I was like, wait a minute,
(40:04):
has that priest just been in the house this whole
time waiting for you guys. And there's a twist with
that later which we won't spoil, but it did make
me laugh. And something that really stood out to me
on this rewatch is they said, let's take us. We
should have put this in memoriam but like say a
prayer for MTV.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
MTV is now dead.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
But they make a joke during one of the commercials
that music channels only go up to M and we
go up to Q at the Quarry, the Quarry RIPMTVPMTV.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, this is actually shot in Timonium, Maryland at an
old rectory. Okay, and so yeah, it does have like
that halfway between the Midwest and East Coast five to it.
They apparently the crew made multiple copies of the film
on several VCRs to degrade the quality. Oh that's funny,
(40:57):
closely resemble a bootleg.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
And this is twenty thirteen, and I think you did
a really good job.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, And this was like, yeah, this was obviously you know,
this was one year after the first VHS you know, movie,
and it was kind of that time in indie horror
where it really did feel like there was all this
potential and experimentation and I really did appreciate the experimentalist
aspect of it in terms of, you know, and I
(41:25):
like you're saying, I totally get your point ash in
terms of like, yeah, okay, let's move it along. But
I did appreciate a commitment to the bit in terms of, like, Okay,
this does feel like it would probably feel even with
the fast forwarding. And again, the fast forwarding is kind
of needed because at that point you're like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Want to move it along.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'm ready to be done with this.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
So there are little one liners, the one for the guns.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They're like, come feel the warm embrace of the Second Amendment,
Come to the gun range.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
And I do appreciate the fact that, yeah, these jokes,
these little like rifts and everything, they're pretty subtle in
the sense that, like, if you weren't paying attention, you
might miss you know. It's not as obvious as like, Okay,
now we're just gonna have boobs on the screen, or
we're just gonna have like crazy or it doesn't ever
get to that point in let's say, like a VHS segment,
because those movies operate differently, where you know, at a
(42:13):
certain point you're like Okay, well that's where like the
CG takes over, or you know, that's where the practical
effects take over or whatever like it. This does feel
grounded almost all the way through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, well, and like a trigger for our listeners who
are going to watch this who are like me and
don't care for animal deaths.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
There's a little too much animal death in this. Oh yeah,
there's the and then like the cat.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
They definitely showed the cat, but then I thought they
were just going to talk about the dog.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And then they showed it.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Oh yeah, they showed a.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Picture of the dog that would like. I was like,
what the fuck.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, I was like, of all.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
The things we're gonna do, we're gonna show these dead animals.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, but you know, and we'll just say this is
not cannibal Holocaust where it actually really was done.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's just yeah, no, of course, not shout of the
cat up fucking smushed to death or whatever that was.
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, So yeah, for just to tell people this actually
is the beginning of a pseudo franchise, if if that
makes sense. It does have a sequel, but it's not
a sequel in the way that you would expect a
sequel to be the sequels called out There Halloween Megatape,
and the idea is that it's yet another you know,
(43:20):
in universe lore of like there's a guy named a
character named Trader Tony, who you know is somebode who
recorded a bunch of TV broadcasts during the nineties, and
I guess maybe also the eighties, but certainly the nineties,
because that's when this one takes place. And it's supposedly
the same TV station WNUF, just you know, like ten
(43:41):
years later or something, and they're having another Halloween special,
but it's not the local news you know, Halloween special. Instead,
it's sponsored by and it's an episode of if you
remember from like the Fox Network, when you know, X
files Mania was at its peak, they would have like
alien abduction, you know shows. So this one's called It's
(44:02):
again it's another fictional program, but it's called out There,
and it's a live broadcast of the show out There
with these you know, sort of news magazine anchor type people,
and they're supposedly going to capture an alien visitation on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I feel like I've seen this, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
You might have. It's probably on Shutter as well.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, and then they just brought out a new one,
which is the third entry in the series, which I
have but I haven't watched yet because I was saving
it for Halloween. And that one is like yet another
spin off of like there's a character in out there
Halloween Mega Tape who has like interstitional moments in between
(44:43):
who's like an ex actor kind of like a Vincent
Price type sort of but even like not as famous,
and I guess this new one is like his special Okay,
who knows what the twist is on this on this
new one's going to be, but yeah, like it really
it's fun in the sense that these movies are very indie,
like they don't have huge stars, and even with the sequels,
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they're not bringing them in, you know, they don't have
huge budgets, but their commitment to the bit and the
whole sort of again nostalgia aspect of it, and because
of the fact that these people involved are pretty much unknown,
it does have that little frison of like, you know,
could this really have happened? Obviously you're not meant to
(45:25):
think that, but you know, it's that sort of feeling
of like you speaking a lot of French today, Bill,
I know I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
I like to speak a little French.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I got I got inspired by Bordello Blood to be
a little swave. But you know, that's really something I
appreciate about this, these these films. But certainly w and
U F you know started at all.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, it's cute. I like the ending. The ending is.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
If I guess you're not expecting it, and that's what
I kind of like about it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So I'm not gonna say anything more.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
But they do want to do one of my favorite
things that I've ever seen in a show, and it's
they're trying to do a live call in, say on,
and everybody just keeps being total normal.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Pieces of shit. Yep, you know, tell my grandma's a bitch,
Tell her that. That was so funny.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
It reminds me of if you guys know, mister show,
the Bob Oda Kirk David Cross sketch series. There's a
good live call in sketch uh that they do, which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
But yeah, I mean, this is a it's a fun
one to watch on Halloween.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
It's not very long, so that and neither's Bordello Bleds
like two minutes longer.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Oh no, no, these are movies I think in particular,
these two like they're the kind of Halloween party movies
that you kind of want, you know, whether you're actually
literally at a party or if you're just having a
party for yourself while Tricker Treaters are coming around, Like
these are like, you know, just really fun things to
have on.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, well Christmas is right around the corner.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
That's true. Uh do you fear what I fear?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Oh my god, I did love that little thing at
the end. But she was just like, well, you have
to watch. And both of these films are streaming on Shutter.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Hey, shout out to Shutter. We shouted two year shut
out Shutter.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I will always I love Shutter And if you just
want to check these out, you can go through Amazon
and do like a week of AMC Plus for free,
because I did that to watch Joe Bob talk about
Nightmare on Elm Street and Freddie versus Jason last week
on Wednesday, and I was like, I'm gonna cancel this immediately.
But if you want to just check out some of
the things that Shutter has going on, I suggest doing
(47:25):
it that way, and I bet you're gonna stay because
Shutters the best.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, Shutter's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And if you're like me and you're a collector and
you really love the sound of these movies, or maybe
you've seen them before but you want to own them,
They're both available on Blu Ray as well. I'm kind
of hoping, given that Bardilla Blood has an anniversary next year,
I'm kind of hoping that Screen Factory will upgrade both
Demon Night and Bordello to four K.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I would love to see them that way.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I would love that too, especially both of them are
so good.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Happy Halloween, and we will see
you on our next spooky episode because yeah, here at
Bill and Ashley's tearor Theater, the spooks don't stop.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
It never stopped.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Shout out to our Patreon We love you, Thank you
so much, and enjoy all of our Patreon only episodes
that are on there. And if you would like to
check that out, I have made our first one free
for everybody, So go check that out, I guess.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
But yeah, so if you'd like to join on that show,
information is in the notes. Oh do you want to
tell them about your thing? On well Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
By the time this episode comes out, it will already
have happened. So I can't advertise it in the sense
that come down because you won't be there. But this
coming Tuesday, the twenty first of October, I will be
presenting a talk at Nerd Night LA, which is an
event that happens every month here in Los Angeles. Because
this is, of course October, it's Halloween themed, so we
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have there's a not we because I'm only part of
the show this time. I'm not part of the show
every time, but it's a group of Halloween themed talks
and hold on, I just want to get the names
of the talks right here. So there's going to be
these talks, including Shadow of the Umbrella, how Japanese War
(49:09):
crimes and the American eugenics influenced Resident Evil by Christopher Smith,
a friend of the show. Bj Colangelo and her wife
Harmony will be presenting Revenge of the Closet, Monsters, Reclaiming
Queer Villainy Nice, and then Mine is going to be
The Night They All Came Home, a unified theory of
the Halloween series timeline, in which attempt to explain how
(49:29):
every single Halloween movie could fit into the same timeline.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Even the Zombie one.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Spoiler alert, those don't okay you knew what I was,
but I have a theory as to how they could
be incorporated sort of.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
If that makes okay, well that sounds awesome. Good luck
with all that. I can't wait to hear all about it.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I'm hoping somebody will you know, record it or something
like that so that maybe people.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Can see it.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Tell somebody to do that shit be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
I don't know if they have rules like the show.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
They fingers crossed that they'll allow it. Thank you all
for joining us for this episode of Bill and Ashley's
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Speaker 4 (50:23):
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Speaker 3 (50:25):
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Speaker 4 (50:32):
See you in your night, Das
Welcome to the third annual Halloween Recommendations episode of Bill
and Ashley's Terror Theater.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
On the Marquee.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
This week is twenty thirteen's WNUF Halloween Special and nineteen
ninety six is Bordello of Blood. Join us right after
we get back from trying to find Shadow the Cat.
He's probably at the brothel all that after these ads
we have no control over.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome back. I'm Ashley Coffin.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Joined us always by my co host in Terror, Bill Bria,
Bill Darling.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
How are we today?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
We are pretty great. We're feeling festive, We're feeling spooky.
So let me see Welcome back to the Bill and
Ashleys too or Theater Halloween Special. And then I want
to see if I can do this in one breath.
Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Why is that crazy?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Because I advanced a singular theory that the perpetrator of
our crimes is an eternal spirit who sustains itself solely
through the intake of human heboglobin through a set of
protracted fangs. When he dropped that line, I was like,
oh shit, Dennis, so we are talking about it.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
We're going to talk about it before we get into
our recommendations. Bill has a couple tidbits from the Necronomicon
of horror this week.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What do you go for us?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
First, is this a farewell at a rest in peace
to actress Samantha Egger. She passed away this past week
as of our recording right now, at the age of
eighty six. She's most famous amongst genre fans for being
the mother Nora in David Cronenberg's The Brood, which is
one of my favorite films and hopefully yours as well.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I like The Brood.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, it's a pretty superlative performance. So if you've ever
seen that movie, you will remember Samantha Eggar.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
But yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
In addition to playing Nola Carvith, she's also appeared in
a lot of other genre movies, including The Dead Are Alive, Demonoid,
The Uncanny, The Exterminator, and another superlative Canadian freak out
horror movie called Curtains, which.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Again, oh, I've seen You've ever seen Curtains? You know Curtains.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
She was also in nineteen sixty five is the Collector
of Opposite Terrence Stamp, which is a movie I still
need to see. I've heard and read about for years
and years, but she was Oscar nominated for that performance.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Oh well, I have not seen it.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
And yes, it's where Terrence Stamp is not a serial
killer but kind of a Norman batesy ish type where
like he collects things and then he starts collecting people,
and she's the person. She was also in the nineteen
sixty seven version of Doctor Doolittle. She voiced Hara in
Disney's Hercules. She was also in the Phantom, The Astronaut's Wife,
episodes of Star Trek Next Generation and so.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
On and so forth.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So she she was, you know, out there in the
genre space for a long time, and she's one of
those actors who always elevated the material that she was in. Uh.
She had that sort of I don't know, English actress
kind of you know, a sila. So yeah, definitely check
out her stuff if you've never seen her in anything,
but there's chance that you've seen her in something already.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So how old was she eighty six?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (03:23):
So pretty yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Another little tidbit I have is that John Carpenter, you know,
he's still not making a feature. He's adding his he's
adding his name to more new projects every day, seems
like and so he's added his name to and an
executive producer credit to a new horror anthology series called
John Carpenter Presents.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Is this that thing that we've been talking about for
a long time now?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know. I mean it was like I remember.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
The picture was like a cul de sac of houses,
and it was like something he was doing, like Schworts
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, well he's feel like we've been talking about this
for like two.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like John loves to get a paycheck. We know this,
So like he has added his name or as an
executive producer credit to so many different things over the years,
like comic books, video games. Of course, it depends on
how interested he is and how involved he wants to
be the only reason I bring this up in particular
is because it reminds me, of course, of John Carpenter's
Body Bags, which was the feature which I believe was
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originally intended to be a pilot for, you know, another
John Carpenter produced mythology series that just then got turned
into like sort of a creep show anthology movie. And
so this one is it's going to be shot and
you know, and we're made in Canada, of course, Canada
Create Canadia by show owners Michael Amo and Will Pasco.
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The latter worked on Orphan Black, So that's a name
at least, And I think from this description that I'm reading,
it says set in the remote wilderness of Alaska. The
first season, we'll explore the hidden fears and social anxieties
of our time as a diverse group of characters face
a chilling mix of supernatural and existential terror. So it
sounds like it's an anthology in the sense of like
(05:04):
each season is a different story, but it's a full
story through.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
The like American horror story or.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Not anthology like Tales from the crypt Okay, Okay, so
we'll see apparently that's gonna happen in the next few months. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Which show just took place in Alaska?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
That was like True Detective, which is also the anthology thing. Yeah, God,
I still will die on the cross that. The first
season of that show was like peak TV. The first
season is the best ship I have ever watched.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, No, that that was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I think that came along at that time when like
there was just so many bangers, especially in HBO and
that thing. Yeah, you can't you can't recapture that lighting
in a bottle. As the rest of the series has shown,
they've tried, they've tried, they've tried, and I really haven't.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
But it's been okay, but I haven't. Nothing else has
ever hit like nothing you get that way that season,
No other show like, oh my god, it's so good.
The only thing that might come not even like like
that's at one hundred percent. This comes in at like
seventy five. Was The Outsider? That was great too.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I don't think I saw it The Outsider.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
It's a one shot Stephen King thing on HBO oh
with Ben Mendelssohn heading Oh, I love BENJ Jwson.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Very good. It was very good. I think Jason Batement's
in it for a minute.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Oh all right, yeah cool?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Or Jason Bateman directed an episode two. There's a lot
of Yeah, you should check it out. I feel like
I was just talking about that. I do so many
podcasts of course, of.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Course, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right cool.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
The last little bit I had is specifically because as
soon as they read it, I was like, I have
to talk to Ashley about this, because there's a certain
I don't know, subset or section of fans of horror
of thrillers that really enjoy the thriller movies that they'll
make for.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
The Lifetime channel.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Okay, and Lifetime just announced their lineup of these new
original holiday movies that they'll be doing for Christmas this year,
and it's Lifetime. Most of them are not thrillers, you know,
they're not Hallmark, but you know, kind of round commy
sort of you know, yeah on things. But one of
them it's a little bit different. It's a Christmas themed
thriller and it's called Do You Fear What I Fear?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
I love that. I can't believe nobody has done that yet.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
A beautiful title.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Okay, life to appreciate that title, and the official description
goes like this. In Do You Fear What I Fear?
When Claire played by Ciara or Kiara Hannah lands her
dream job in the city, she believes she's finally escaped
her Christmas hometown. That's until holiday decorations start appearing in
her home unannounced, each one with a message from someone
close to her. The thriller must decide who the secret
(07:41):
Santa truly is and escape her haunted holiday Jesus Christ. Okay,
that premiere is on Thursday, December fourth of this.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
All the things that could happen, extra gifts and like
decorations showing it. You know how expensive decorations are, I'd
be like, cool, Santa's going out front.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I love that this is already giving me like, uh,
female Scrooge vibes of like I kind of am singing like, Okay,
I hate Christmas because my hometown sucks and I don't
like my hometown.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
I don't want any Christmas decorations in my house.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And then she's gonna learn learn, She's gonna learn the
meeting of Christmas.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
We're gonna show it right down throat or else.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
Yeah, fruitcake, egg dog Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
So hopefully this movie is his can't be fun? Is
that title promises?
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
And if it's not, they will let us all down
and we will have to get mad at them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
But hopefully you let me know you plan on a watch.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't have the Lifetime channel anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I haven't had TV for a lifetime app. I have
not heard are they streaming through TV? I know?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Oh, well, then it'd be free. Can we shout out
to be to be?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You're the best. Shout out to be to be?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
You are the absolute best to be has all the
weird ship that I used to feel like watch in
the middle of the night or rent in the late
nineties from my weird like Little Random Spot, not West
Coast Video or block Buster, but like the video Den.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They have all of it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
They have all the subspecies, which we talk about Paranormal
Activity being our longest episode.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
When you finally watch.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
All of those, we have to get that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh, everybody better blockle the fuck up because we're going to.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Be here for a while. Oh he's gonna hate it. Sorry,
four hour episode.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
She's always like, why do you like this?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I love the score, I love the vampires. I love
everything about it.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yell the story.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
This episode's going to come out the week of Halloween, right.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, Halloween's on a Friday, so like a little bit
before you.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Well for sure, I know that the embargo will be
up by then for this, So let me just say
I've seen most of the first season and welcome to
dry and it's pretty rad. So if you like it,
if you like it, definitely check it out. But the
one I really want to shout out is something I
just wasn't prepared for, even though I knew it was
going to be worthwhile watching because it's from Vince Gilligan,
(10:00):
his new show Pluribus on what on Apple TV no
longer plus they're changing their their name from Apple TV
plus to Apple Just TV. But yeah, it's it's actually
kind of a genre show. So it feels like Vince
Gilligan returning to his X Files roots, which is pretty sweet,
you know, post breaking bad, post better Call Sault and
(10:20):
ray Sea horns the lead and Cheese great of course
in it. So yeah, if you're looking for sort of
seasonal watchings of television that's happening in the next a
few weeks, definitely check those out.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Nice, I don't have Apple pluss. Yeah, it's too many,
it's too many. Yeah, you gotta pick and choose.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
I guess they don't do like a bundle like Disney
does with Hulu or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Right yeah no, damn.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Well, Well, we'll be back with our feature films after
these miss ups from the grave that we have no
control over. And now it is time for our feature films.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, so welcome back, and it is time for our
annual Halloween recommendations. Even though we have to get int
the wa a little bit.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Mine's yours is perfect, Mine's a little adjacent. And I
didn't pick mine until I put it on on Tuesday
night and I was like, oh, yeah, this is the
movie that we're doing.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I had a completely other movie pick.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I do think that Bordella of Blood because I, as
as Ashley knows, I saw it for the first time
because of her this week. It's definitely a movie of like,
when you're watching it, you're like, oh, yeah, Oh.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I'm so glad that you Because I didn't know, I
never know what you're like. I can assume that you're
gonna like it a movie that I, you know, tell
you to watch.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Yeah, it's fifty to fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
It's something where, like I understand why it got the
reputation that it did when it came out, because, as
I told Ashley, for the longest time, I've been a
huge super fan of Tales from the cryptemon Night and
Tales from the Crypt in general. Like I did, I
watched all of the first three seasons of the show.
For some reason, Night to stop around season four, I
guess because the video store I was renting from didn't
have the DVDs or whatever, and I never got back
(11:55):
on the horse, you know. So because they only went
for five seasons, I think, Oh, I don't know, anyway,
at some point I'll watch the rest of the series.
But anyway, those first three seasons are great. And of
course Demon Knight, because Demon Night was one of those
movies that not even just growing up when I was,
you know, watching it as a fan, but also when
I was working at Hollywood Video for whatever reason, every
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employee of the video store that I worked at was
just like a huge fan of Demon Night, so we
would just always put it.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, who's not I love that movie so much. Yeah,
getting to see it at the drive in last year
was fucking awesome.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Oh that's gotta be read.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So for whatever reasons, I guess when Bordello Blood came out, like,
I guess it was the whole like Dennis Miller thing
because at that point, I guess he was already kind
of off SNL and he was already.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Sort of like in this weird space with his career.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, he was starting that show on HVA, he was.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Starting the show on HBO.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Okay, he was actually in a pretty popular he was
he was pretty Dennis Miller.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Yeah, well, then maybe it's not him. Maybe it was
just like the tone of the movie or something. Something
happened around the movie when it released. Oh you know what,
it probably was because this was the same year as
From Dust Till Dawn, wasn't it maybe.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Six?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, so I think Desttal.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Dawn really stole this movie's thunder in terms of like, oh,
sexy vampires at a brothel and it's funny, like okay,
oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I never thought about it that way because I just
see them. I see one as a they're just so
they're the same, but they're different.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Right, And I just wonder, like why this one got
such a bad reputation in the press.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
I mean the press.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
You know, we know the press wasn't a fan, but
I mean, like the fan circles or horror circles or whatever.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
Some people just were.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Really down on it, to the point where it gave
me the I hate to use this term because it's
so gen z, but the ick you know, where it's
like that thing like you just give me sorry ash,
I couldn't think of another expression, but you know that
sort of thing where like it just got enough of
a stink on it that was like, oh, I'll get
to that later, and I never did, And here we are.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
So I watched this movie in nineteen ninety six and
I never stopped, Like I was way too young to
see this movie for sure. Yeah, but I was already
watching from Dostill Dawn Fright Night. I knew the characters
lost boys, and that's my favorite. I guess we will
go start with Bordello Blood. My favorite thing about this
movie is watching two characters play their polar opposites live
(14:06):
with Corey Felman being you know, a vampire and with j.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
C or uh.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Chris Sarandon with Chris Sarandon playing not a vampire. And
I just really loved that as a kid because I
thought that that was funny. I used to watch Baywatch
as a kid, and so I knew what's her Face?
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Even though.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Horn stars, I've always kind of been into that because
I loved What's her Face? From Blade to I just
thought it was funny that all these porn stars, well
Angie ever heard.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Of Excuse me, she's not a porn star, right, No? No, no,
she doesn't even get naked in this movie.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
No, I uh not porn. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, it's Playboy, Playboy Boy, I am a Now I'm
just a little girl.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I don't read this stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I don't Playboy is close enough.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You can call a Playboy playmate cacorn star, but like
it's I guess, so it's not the same thing exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Yeah, but there was.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Just something so campy, so gory, and just so perfect
about this movie that like, I mean, this is not
high art, you know, but guess what, it's Una pod.
It's so funny. It's just really funny. It's blood soaked.
And I thought that I love the vampires, like, I
think they're really fun.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It's a really interesting story.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It is builds off of what I've already seen with
uh with the Key. The key is like the mcguffin
of this and that travels between the two movies, even
though we don't get a lot of exposition about how
they got the key.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Right well, and it's not exactly the same key, even
though it looks and functions pretty much the same way,
but it doesn't really have like there's not in Demon Night.
It's the whole like you can make a seal out
of drops from of blood from it, you know, everything
they don't use.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
It was like Jesus's Blood Jack.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Blood was part of it, and this I think, I
think it's more of a reference rather than like an
actual universe connection of like it's the exact same key.
Like I feel like they're just sort of you know, sure,
somebody behind the scenes, some producer or writer or somebody
was like, hey, what if all these tales from the
crit movies because they only did these.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Two, Yeah, we're obviously planning to do more.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
What if they all are based around some sort of
key that looks the same, and like every movie will
have some sort of device where it like the key
will be the mcguffin and all that. It's a cute idea,
maybe more confusing than for its own good, because like,
if you try to reconcile, is this the same exact key,
and why does it work differently?
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And why is it only for vampires and lilith rather
than deep.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Well, it's like maybe they didn't know how to use
it correctly. It's possible, but it did keep the vampires
in check. So Bordello Blood opens. Now, how you would
think We're on a little jungle expedition and the adventures
stumble on a hinten Tuo and unlock a coffin containing Lilith,
and you know, Lilith is the mother of all vampires.
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She's also like the first which there's a lot of Lilith,
so it's like, bad move with you guys. And then
we just kind of like we see that the key
can kind of like keep her in check. And then
we flash forward to sleepy Town in the nineties where
local men are mysteriously disappearing, and the trail leads back
to a sketchy funeral home that just so happens to
double as a vampile vampire rent brothel, because of course
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it does. And our unlikely hero is Raef Gotman, who
is Dennis Miller and is a sarcastic private investor gator
asshole who I just love him throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
He's like, you're going to get any of that stew
in your mouth? So many lines.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
He does feel more like a stand up comedian moonlighting
as a detective throughout this. So he's hired by Catherine,
a religious activist, to find her missing brother Caleb, who
is Corey Feldman, who went out one night and never
came home, and she works for Chris Randon's character JC
who's like one of those we'll get to the Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
So yes, he starts to put things together.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
He finds, you know, there's this whole brothel of vampires,
there's undid bikers, and that we find out that JC
is working with Lilith to kind of like take out
bad people while making money. It's very sleazy, it's awesome.
It's just like a ridiculous storyline. But it's also it's
kind of like dextery. But it's also like, h if
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you're going to a horrhouse, I don't think you deserve
to die, you.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Know, yeah, right, It's it's something that like Tales from
the crypt as a show.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
You know. Of course, this show, you know, was created.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
For HBO in the late eighties by a cadre of
you know name filmmakers.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You had Robert Semchis, Walter Hill, Richard Donner and they,
you know, were seeing what was happening with this rise
of anthology and horror stuff, like you know, starting with
Creep Show and Twilight Zone the movie, and then your
Tales from the Dark Side. By the late eighties you
had so many You had Friday the Thirteenth, the series,
you had Freddy's Nightmares. You had War of the Worlds
(18:49):
was an anthology series, you had Monsters. There was so
many the revival of the Twilight Zone, you know, in
the mid eighties, and I think this was these guys's
attempt to you know, make their own version but also
utilize the iconography and the ip and sort of vibe
of the old EC comics which were published by His
(19:12):
last name is Gaines. What's his first name. That's your job,
William Gaines. It's my name is William Gaines. I was
gonna say, it's not fred No, it's William Gaines. And
if you already knew this, maybe you did, or maybe
you didn't. It was specifically the EC comics of the
nineteen fifties, stuff like Tales from the Crypt or Vault
(19:35):
of Horror or you know, other lurid titles that were
indicted literally at the I think the Supreme Court level.
But it was this whole seduction of the innocent controversy
around you know, no censorship in comic books. And this
(19:55):
was this beginning of the Comics Code Authority, which was
like the sort of self pose, self regulated uh you
know MPAA for comic books. Essentially you know that that
kind of idea. So yeah, Tails from the Crypt had
a reputation already culturally as like, oh you know this
is the this is this the nasty stuff, Like you
want to see gore, you want to see some lurid
(20:17):
like sleazy stuff like read Tales from the Crypt. So
they were really trying to sort of, you know, yeah,
recapture that vibe for the late eighties on HBO, which
was a premium cable network and you could show a
lot of gore, and you could show a lot of
boobs and all that. So this movie maybe even more
I think, actually certainly more than Demon Knight, really way more.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I don't even think there are boobs in Demon Knight.
There's so many boobs.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
When uh, you know, when what's his name, Joe Dante's guy, Uh,
why can't I think of his name? This is Tara
Dick Miller when he goes into his fantasy of the bar. Yeah,
there's there's a ton in there, and there's little moments,
but ultimately yeah, yeah, absolutely Bordilla Blood in the Sleeves.
Content is just like ups the End a million and.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Then it's just like everybody, it's first time actress for
some of the people in this movie, especially the lead
of Lilis Like Angie slays this. She she's not this
great actor, but I love listening to her talk and
I like the way that she delivers all her lines.
She's very funny, just the way like how am I
doing lover you getting hot? Like, She's just so funny.
(21:22):
And the end of this oh, I could tell you
I could verbate on this movie. Back to you McCutcheon,
ooh deadly she sniffs her armpit. I did it because
this is you know, not video. You can't see that, like,
and it's so ridiculous. And all of this builds up
to this like fire filled showdown, complete with like vampires
laying gadgets, quips, body parts.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And yes, in the background, that is one of the
best scenes of all time.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
We've port into that.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And yeah, the crip keeper does pop in to bookend
the madness and his signature bad puns and cackles, which
is really fun because he's having that like card game
with the Mummy.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, but yeah, he's great.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
There are some interesting connections to the history of this too,
which is the fact that Bob Gale and Roberts a
mechis who you know, famously were writing partners from the
time they graduated USC in the seventies and they they
wrote co wrote nineteen forty one for Steven Spielberg, and
then they made Used Cars and of course Back to
the Future, that whole trilogy. They wrote an early draft
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of this as this was going to be their breakout
film before they got hired to do or rather they
got the money to do I Want to Hold Your Hand,
which is about Beatlemania, which was their first film, and
so they wanted to make an exploitation film quote about
a whorehouse full of vampires. They pitched it to John
Millius in the seventies. It wasn't produced. They made nineteen
(22:42):
forty one instead, but Millius always liked the idea for
Burdello and kept you know, sort of the idea alive
in terms of, like, you know, bringing it up at
pitch meetings and whatnot. But yeah, when it finally came
to make a second Tales from the Crypt movie, the
producers were looking around for for options and they actually,
apparently according to Coming Soon in twenty fifteen, they actually
(23:07):
did consider from Dustill Dawn as a possible Tales from
the Grid film, So that's another connection which is interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
That is interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, there's a lot of connections with our movies tonight,
because we just did Fright Night with Chris Suranne. Oh yeah,
and the Warrens are heavily implied in yours, and I
was just like, it's really funny, this little circle that
we've come around. Yeah, well, it's funny because with the
vampire stuff and the aesthetic of this movie, they did
a really good job with the lighting and the neon
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crosses and the gothic funeral homes. So it's very different
from Dustill Dawn, which I like, but it also has neon.
It's just like you have your Mexican bordello and then
you have what would probably be like any town bordello,
and it's I swear I never looked at funeral homes
again the same after seeing these, because so many look
just like that and it would be a perfect place.
I love the little tidbit of them hiding the bodies
(23:58):
in the coffins.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
And Dennis Miller's like reading the thing, she was like
died from a bacteria like.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Flesh eating disease.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, and it was like five people to carry it.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And he's like hah. But yeah, I mean this movie it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Doesn't take itself seriously for a second, and that's kind
of the fun of it. Everybody's really just doing a
great job. Dennis Miller is great in it, even though
I heard, like I did read he was kind of
an asshole on set, which does not He's playing himself,
so I was like, yeah, you're just you know, and
honestly that is kind of the charm because I do
kind of like him. Yeah, and he doesn't belong in
(24:35):
this world at all, but that kind of makes him
the perfect lens for us.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Now, this isn't a performance where it's like, wow, Dennis Miller,
he really has some depth to him. It's literally Dennis
Miller versus vampires. Like, if you are amused by that idea,
then you will love the hell out of this. And
if you will, if you aren't, then yeah, you're gonna
hate it because it's just literally that's what you get.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
And Angie just be or you know, Lilith being so
into him and just not killing him the whole time
is so f funny.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
She's like she keeps calling him lover.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
It's just blood is like special or something.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, that's right, she's like, I haven't tasted that in
a millennium.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Is gone or whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, but yeah, I mean it's and the fact that
they got Chris Sarandon is really funny.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
He's I think legitimately the best performance in the movie. Yeah,
you know, as you would expect because he's probably the
best actor out of all them, but his work as
this televangelist type with like electric guitar, it's something where
like even like in a post righteous Gemstones world. Yeah,
it's really really a really good you know, send up
of that archetype.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
What he's yelling at the sound people. He's like, this
is like and it's so and it's funny. It's like
character is very interesting because like by day he's doing
the salvation stuff and then he sells out humanity by night.
And his character is like the perfect takedown of like
that slimy religious hypocrisy.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And it's like but for good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Reasons, but also not because yeah it's not like I said,
it's not dexter.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
But oh his death Chef's kiss. The deaths in this
are fantastic.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Well there's also the thing that I thought of the
most when I was watching this, was it doesn't have
the same level of satire for me, but otherwise it
really does feel a lot like a Frank Kennon Lodder movie,
especially Franken Hooker, where oh yeah, by the end sequence
of them shooting everyone with holy water and the girls
(26:32):
just blowing up left and right, that's like the freaking
Hooker super crack scene. It's yeah, people, they're just exploding.
These women, these floozies are just.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Took ballroom bliss.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
The soundtrack to this is so awesome. It's a lot
of heavy metal and then ballroom less. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Well, this wasn't even supposed to be the next Tales
from the Crypt movie.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
The Originally it was a film called Dead Easy.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
It was a voodoo themed zombie flick set in New Orleans,
but the studio thought the vampires would sell better, so
they pivoted.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
And I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I love everything New Orleans, but god, I love
this movie, so I'm not going to say anything. You
know that for me, they made the right choice. It
like Corey Feldman and Sarrandon.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Oh yeah, no, it's true.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I think that it's it's a indication or rather it's
a case of like a movie coming out that people
just weren't on the right wave length for I guess
the people maybe were thinking it was going to be
I don't know, a little more serious or a little
more scary, because scary wise, yeah, this isn't that scary.
But in terms of fun, like, it's just a ton
(27:33):
of fun. So I wonder if it was just people
sort of you know, turning up their noses that like, oh,
tails in the grip, that's so nineteen.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Eighty nine or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
I don't know, stupid, but.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
It's a shame.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
I guess it always there was always going to be
a time when it had to sort of fade into
the background, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, but it is too bad that they couldn't go
a little bit longer.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
And so Dennis Miller he wasn't into it, Like he
reportedly improvised most of his lines, which is par for
the course for him. He barely showed up to set,
and he demanded a huge paycheck at the end, which
kind of like cut in everybody else's budget.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
So the crew didn't love that. So he did not
have any friends.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah, and according to the filmmaker's Miller's lack of commitment
made shooting chaotic, but somehow it kind of worked like
he had that I'm too cool for this energy, and
that kind of does come across on screen, just this
whole like nay, what's up, but gobbr or whatever, all
the weird like the little things. So Angie Everhart had
(28:29):
never done a horror movie before, and she was dating
Sylvester Stallone at the time, so her casting was a
big tabloid thing, like people were like, oh, so Velster
Stallone's girlfriend. And despite the inexperience, I think she kills
it literally and figuratively. She's so good in it. And
she looks so good.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, now there's no Yeah, you can't falterr looks. I mean,
she's just as ravishing as you would want that character
to be.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I love her voice.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, no, apparently.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
And also other stuff that I just because I obviously
just watched this for the first time, so I did
a cursory little bit of research. But even watching the movie,
you could sort of tell that there was some discomfort
on at least a LENNIAX part if not Eleniac and
Everheart about the kind of love scene that the two have.
They don't really because it's not really a love scene.
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It's also very clearly like two doubles. It feels like
because neither of their faces are in frame, it's just
they're both you know, clothed, you know sort of thing.
So it's actually what's funny about it too, is the
fact that, not to give anything away, but the love
scene actually ends up becoming a bit of a plot
point later on. So it is something where it's like,
(29:40):
is it necessary to the script? Well kind of, but
I guess there was so much rewriting going on because
of Miller and the whole problem there, and yeah, Lenniac
was having issues with the producers and the writers and
Joel Silver and everything about like, you know, she wanted
to be taken seriously as an actress. She was getting
off Baywatch originally, maybe Catherine was originally written as a stripper,
I think I read, oh yeah, so not even a
(30:02):
religious you know, sort of a televangelist.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yes, she's always going to be Seannie McLain.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
To me, right, So yeah, I think this was just
unfortunately one of these like flashpoint movies where like a
lot was going wrong behind the scenes, where.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Well, Angie everheart do you she was in the Last
Action Hero?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was what nineteen three eighty three. Yeah,
so I think that that probably added to like the
whole media stink around the movie when it came out,
where like, oh, there was like some behind the scenes
issues and you can tell or whatever you know that
people were you know, probably talking about at the time.
(30:39):
And I think that you were saying ash, like it
is so unapologetic in its sleeves factor, and maybe if
there had been a couple other people involved that were
sort of like on board with that from the beginning,
like it would have been maybe a smoothie ride and
including Miller, you know, because I think I see Miller
was like his own you know, sort of snooty or whatever,
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like greedy, yeah, thing going on. But despite all that,
like it is still the ride that you kind of want.
It's not it's not a movie called Bardilla Blood and
there's no gore and there's no nudity.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
It's like, well yeah, I mean, because it's not. It
doesn't pretend to be something it's not. It's not trying
to win an oscar. It's trying to entertain. It's sexy,
it's stupid, it's smart and weird places, and it's just
endlessly quotable it's the kind of movie that you throw
on at like it's like a greasy piece of night.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's what I call this VI. Yeah, Like that's what I.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Used to watch it just pizza on Fridays with friends,
and it's exactly what I want, you know. Like, honestly,
I'll take Bordello Blood over any kind of like self
important slow burn.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
When I need a laugh, I will.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Always put this movie on and it's it's so messy
and it's so bloody, and it's so fun, and it
just reminds you like horror can be really fun.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
And that's that's why this is my pick this year.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
And I think that to tie it into the theme,
like it's the sort of thing, you know, because Halloween
is a holiday, it's something you want.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
To sort of celebrate, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And obviously that means different things to different people, but
I think for us, it really is more about the
sort of the fun of the genre, you know, because
we as we've talked about literally on this show, every
time we watch horror year round.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
There is no spooky season for us. It's like, oh, we're.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Not gonna watch horror movie this month, Like we're watching
horror movies every week, if not every month, And so
I think for us, the Halloween vibe is less about oh,
this is the only time that we watch horror. It's
more let's watch the fun stuff because we're celebrating our
love of the genre.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah, yep, yeah, okay, moving on.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Moving on.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So WNUF Halloween Special is something that I think I
came across in the way that you're supposed to, which
is that you, in a Blair witchy sort of way,
you're like, what is this is this way?
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Is this real?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
And then you know pretty quickly you're like, Okay, obviously
it's fabricated. But apparently one of the first ways that
they distributed this movie was on VHS copies that they
just left around certain venues, you know, film theaters, concert venues, whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
If they didn't have like the fast forwarding effect in there,
I would believe it a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I think that's a little strange.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, but I guess that was their idea of like
a sort of grassroots, you know, in d campaign of
like hey, check it out.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
But I also think that this was I'm.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Pretty sure this was a Kickstarter type deal too, right,
there was there was some crowdfunding involved, as well, but
do you have the the plot description?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
No, this was your film.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Oh okay, okay, I didn't research this at all.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
I didn't know you were to research my film.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh no, of course, Well, yeah, no, I didn't know. Okay.
So this is directed by a bunch of people because
there's a lot of contributed contributors to it because of
the format of the of the movie, which is it
is supposedly a recording of a fake television station called
w n U Feen special that supposedly aired on October
(34:02):
thirty first, nineteen eighty seven. And so even so, people
like James Branscombe, Sean Jones, Scott mccobbin, Lonnie Marten, Matthew
Mentor and y Show contributed sort of a little bits
and pieces throughout because in between the actual Halloween special
they'll have these fake commercials. So it emulates what a recording,
(34:25):
like a VHS recording of an actual broadcast from my
teen eighty seven might look like, except in order to avoid,
you know, obviously, any copyright issues or anything like that,
they weren't using They aren't using commercials.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
For real products.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
They're all fake commercials for fake products or in fake shows,
and a couple fake movies and that sort of thing.
But the main director is Chris la Martina, director and writer.
You also had a couple other co writers involved as well.
And so the special is about this newsman for w
ONUF called Frank Stewart who's decided to take the special
(35:02):
broadcast live outside this house called the Weber House, which
I don't recall if they actually say what city this
is taking place in, I want to say somewhere about
west like you know, you can guess sort of like
Ohio or something.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Right, Well, it's it's Amityville. I mean, they're just it
might as well just be New York.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
You might as well just be upstate New York or
Connecticut or something.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
But yeah, so it's this place called the Weber House,
which was the site of this brutal murder years earlier,
similar to the Tafeo murders in the Amityville that really happened,
and the suspected murderers supposedly, you know, had some sort
of summoning through a ouiji or rather he's sorry, he
was supposedly you know, hearing voices and that's why he
(35:44):
committed the murders. And so Stuart believes that if they
go to the house on Halloween night with some some
self styled experts in tow that they're called the Burgers
and like saying, they're very thinly veiled parody of Lorraine Warren.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Just like them.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah, And so the idea is that you're going they're
gonna go into the house, they're gonna investigate, they're gonna
maybe you know, discover any sort of clues as to
the murders and why they happened. But the real gimmick
that Frank is pushing to the audience is that they're
going to capture evidence of the supernatural live on camera.
And that's why you should say tuned and that sort
(36:25):
of thing. So this is a movie, uh you know
that obviously harkens back to Ghostwatch, which was the infamous
you know BBC.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
All the time and I'm talking about them.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Yeah, and uh where ghost Watch is something that I'm
trying not to spoil it. There's just there's a distinct
element of the Supernatural and ghost Watch, whereas the thing
here is very similar but different. And I yeah, I
really appreciate the the the sort of twists and turns
(37:01):
that we have in this one because it's still very
kind of freaky, especially given the found footage aspect to it,
and you know, the sort of analogue like you know this,
if it was shorter, it could easily be a VHS
anthology segment.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, I honestly think it might do better. Yeah, as
that it's a little yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah, no, it's it's something where yeah, it's if you
have a nostalgia for watching old you know, Halloween specials
or Christmas specials on VHS, like I would always watch
them up at family Christmas on our VHS cop Yeah
sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
It is a little bit very nostalgic.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, they did a great job of making it feel
like the eighties.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Five stars on that what ies do start to get
annoyed with the commercials even though they fast forward a lot,
they just keep going back to commercials, and it does
like I'm like, okay, this hour and twenty two minute
movie could be forty five minutes if we like, I
would still get the.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Point and it would just be more of the story.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
But like the commercials start to get a little like
even they start fast forwarding them.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Right right because I'll have like recapsure or like that
thing that would happen often in real broadcasts, you'd see
the same commercial like three times or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah and that, and it's like, Okay, I get it.
And then by the end I'm like, oh my god.
But I think everybody does a really good job. I
think they're very funny. The guy playing Frank, he's great.
I love his attitude the entire time, making me laugh.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
He's just such an arrogant little shit like he really does,
like he.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Really just but he also I love the when they
shoot to the one guy and he's like, what do
you think about this? And he's like, people died in
this house because he has like a whole group of
townspeople around him. Little things like that were very funny
and felt very real.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
I thought that the they're.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Trying to put a little bit of a story together
with other segments going on about there's this religious cult
who are Halloween deniers as much as they like hate Halloween,
and they're all very funny and like this the fake
TV shows like Galaxy Pilot, like it is funny.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And then the warrants come in.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I'm sorry, I mean the burgers and they brought their cat.
They brought their cat, and yeah, I mean they get
away with some shit because I thought I fell out
of my seat when he was like, well that's a
very pretty pussy.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yes they do.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
No.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
That's the thing is that this movie is, I believe,
legitimately unrated, and so while it's not exceptionally like sleazy
or ribald or or.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
Gory or violent, whatever, I think the fact that it it.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
It's obviously meant to be like a safe quote unquote
TV broadcast. Every so often there's a be a little
hint that like, oh, yes, this is like you know,
maybe this isn't completely safe, And I think that's really
fun part of it too well.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
And it's like I had kind of the first time
watching it forgot like didn't you don't know obviously the
plot and I laughed when they're like there's no one
in this house. They're checking the seat because they go
in and they hear some footsteps running around and they're like,
who's here. They're checking with Veronica. Veronica's like, no one's here,
and then he's like, we brought up priest. Let's bring
him out, and this dude just comes from like a
spot around the corner, and I was like, wait a minute,
(40:04):
has that priest just been in the house this whole
time waiting for you guys. And there's a twist with
that later which we won't spoil, but it did make
me laugh. And something that really stood out to me
on this rewatch is they said, let's take us. We
should have put this in memoriam but like say a
prayer for MTV.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
MTV is now dead.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
But they make a joke during one of the commercials
that music channels only go up to M and we
go up to Q at the Quarry, the Quarry RIPMTVPMTV.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
Yeah, this is actually shot in Timonium, Maryland at an
old rectory. Okay, and so yeah, it does have like
that halfway between the Midwest and East Coast five to it.
They apparently the crew made multiple copies of the film
on several VCRs to degrade the quality. Oh that's funny,
(40:57):
closely resemble a bootleg.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
And this is twenty thirteen, and I think you did
a really good job.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeah, And this was like, yeah, this was obviously you know,
this was one year after the first VHS you know, movie,
and it was kind of that time in indie horror
where it really did feel like there was all this
potential and experimentation and I really did appreciate the experimentalist
aspect of it in terms of, you know, and I
(41:25):
like you're saying, I totally get your point ash in
terms of like, yeah, okay, let's move it along. But
I did appreciate a commitment to the bit in terms of, like, Okay,
this does feel like it would probably feel even with
the fast forwarding. And again, the fast forwarding is kind
of needed because at that point you're like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
Want to move it along.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'm ready to be done with this.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
So there are little one liners, the one for the guns.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
They're like, come feel the warm embrace of the Second Amendment,
Come to the gun range.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
And I do appreciate the fact that, yeah, these jokes,
these little like rifts and everything, they're pretty subtle in
the sense that, like, if you weren't paying attention, you
might miss you know. It's not as obvious as like, Okay,
now we're just gonna have boobs on the screen, or
we're just gonna have like crazy or it doesn't ever
get to that point in let's say, like a VHS segment,
because those movies operate differently, where you know, at a
(42:13):
certain point you're like Okay, well that's where like the
CG takes over, or you know, that's where the practical
effects take over or whatever like it. This does feel
grounded almost all the way through.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
Yeah, well, and like a trigger for our listeners who
are going to watch this who are like me and
don't care for animal deaths.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
There's a little too much animal death in this. Oh yeah,
there's the and then like the cat.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
They definitely showed the cat, but then I thought they
were just going to talk about the dog.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
And then they showed it.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
Oh yeah, they showed a.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Picture of the dog that would like. I was like,
what the fuck.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
Yeah, I was like, of all.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
The things we're gonna do, we're gonna show these dead animals.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Yeah, but you know, and we'll just say this is
not cannibal Holocaust where it actually really was done.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
It's just yeah, no, of course, not shout of the
cat up fucking smushed to death or whatever that was.
I was like, oh no.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yeah, So yeah, for just to tell people this actually
is the beginning of a pseudo franchise, if if that
makes sense. It does have a sequel, but it's not
a sequel in the way that you would expect a
sequel to be the sequels called out There Halloween Megatape,
and the idea is that it's yet another you know,
(43:20):
in universe lore of like there's a guy named a
character named Trader Tony, who you know is somebode who
recorded a bunch of TV broadcasts during the nineties, and
I guess maybe also the eighties, but certainly the nineties,
because that's when this one takes place. And it's supposedly
the same TV station WNUF, just you know, like ten
(43:41):
years later or something, and they're having another Halloween special,
but it's not the local news you know, Halloween special. Instead,
it's sponsored by and it's an episode of if you
remember from like the Fox Network, when you know, X
files Mania was at its peak, they would have like
alien abduction, you know shows. So this one's called It's
(44:02):
again it's another fictional program, but it's called out There,
and it's a live broadcast of the show out There
with these you know, sort of news magazine anchor type people,
and they're supposedly going to capture an alien visitation on Halloween.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I feel like I've seen this, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
You might have. It's probably on Shutter as well.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
Yeah, and then they just brought out a new one,
which is the third entry in the series, which I
have but I haven't watched yet because I was saving
it for Halloween. And that one is like yet another
spin off of like there's a character in out there
Halloween Mega Tape who has like interstitional moments in between
(44:43):
who's like an ex actor kind of like a Vincent
Price type sort of but even like not as famous,
and I guess this new one is like his special Okay,
who knows what the twist is on this on this
new one's going to be, but yeah, like it really
it's fun in the sense that these movies are very indie,
like they don't have huge stars, and even with the sequels,
(45:04):
they're not bringing them in, you know, they don't have
huge budgets, but their commitment to the bit and the
whole sort of again nostalgia aspect of it, and because
of the fact that these people involved are pretty much unknown,
it does have that little frison of like, you know,
could this really have happened? Obviously you're not meant to
(45:25):
think that, but you know, it's that sort of feeling
of like you speaking a lot of French today, Bill,
I know I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
I like to speak a little French.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I got I got inspired by Bordello Blood to be
a little swave. But you know, that's really something I
appreciate about this, these these films. But certainly w and
U F you know started at all.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, it's cute. I like the ending. The ending is.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
If I guess you're not expecting it, and that's what
I kind of like about it.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
So I'm not gonna say anything more.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
But they do want to do one of my favorite
things that I've ever seen in a show, and it's
they're trying to do a live call in, say on,
and everybody just keeps being total normal.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
Pieces of shit. Yep, you know, tell my grandma's a bitch,
Tell her that. That was so funny.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
It reminds me of if you guys know, mister show,
the Bob Oda Kirk David Cross sketch series. There's a
good live call in sketch uh that they do, which
is funny.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
But yeah, I mean, this is a it's a fun
one to watch on Halloween.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
It's not very long, so that and neither's Bordello Bleds
like two minutes longer.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
Oh no, no, these are movies I think in particular,
these two like they're the kind of Halloween party movies
that you kind of want, you know, whether you're actually
literally at a party or if you're just having a
party for yourself while Tricker Treaters are coming around, Like
these are like, you know, just really fun things to
have on.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, well Christmas is right around the corner.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
That's true. Uh do you fear what I fear?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Oh my god, I did love that little thing at
the end. But she was just like, well, you have
to watch. And both of these films are streaming on Shutter.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Hey, shout out to Shutter. We shouted two year shut
out Shutter.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
I will always I love Shutter And if you just
want to check these out, you can go through Amazon
and do like a week of AMC Plus for free,
because I did that to watch Joe Bob talk about
Nightmare on Elm Street and Freddie versus Jason last week
on Wednesday, and I was like, I'm gonna cancel this immediately.
But if you want to just check out some of
the things that Shutter has going on, I suggest doing
(47:25):
it that way, and I bet you're gonna stay because
Shutters the best.
Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yeah, Shutter's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And if you're like me and you're a collector and
you really love the sound of these movies, or maybe
you've seen them before but you want to own them,
They're both available on Blu Ray as well. I'm kind
of hoping, given that Bardilla Blood has an anniversary next year,
I'm kind of hoping that Screen Factory will upgrade both
Demon Night and Bordello to four K.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I would love to see them that way.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
I would love that too, especially both of them are
so good.
Speaker 3 (47:49):
Yeah, yeah, so yeah, Happy Halloween, and we will see
you on our next spooky episode because yeah, here at
Bill and Ashley's tearor Theater, the spooks don't stop.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
It never stopped.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
Shout out to our Patreon We love you, Thank you
so much, and enjoy all of our Patreon only episodes
that are on there. And if you would like to
check that out, I have made our first one free
for everybody, So go check that out, I guess.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
But yeah, so if you'd like to join on that show,
information is in the notes. Oh do you want to
tell them about your thing? On well Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
By the time this episode comes out, it will already
have happened. So I can't advertise it in the sense
that come down because you won't be there. But this
coming Tuesday, the twenty first of October, I will be
presenting a talk at Nerd Night LA, which is an
event that happens every month here in Los Angeles. Because
this is, of course October, it's Halloween themed, so we
(48:49):
have there's a not we because I'm only part of
the show this time. I'm not part of the show
every time, but it's a group of Halloween themed talks
and hold on, I just want to get the names
of the talks right here. So there's going to be
these talks, including Shadow of the Umbrella, how Japanese War
(49:09):
crimes and the American eugenics influenced Resident Evil by Christopher Smith,
a friend of the show. Bj Colangelo and her wife
Harmony will be presenting Revenge of the Closet, Monsters, Reclaiming
Queer Villainy Nice, and then Mine is going to be
The Night They All Came Home, a unified theory of
the Halloween series timeline, in which attempt to explain how
(49:29):
every single Halloween movie could fit into the same timeline.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Even the Zombie one.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Spoiler alert, those don't okay you knew what I was,
but I have a theory as to how they could
be incorporated sort of.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
If that makes okay, well that sounds awesome. Good luck
with all that. I can't wait to hear all about it.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
I'm hoping somebody will you know, record it or something
like that so that maybe people.
Speaker 4 (49:51):
Can see it.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
Tell somebody to do that shit be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
I don't know if they have rules like the show.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
They fingers crossed that they'll allow it. Thank you all
for joining us for this episode of Bill and Ashley's
part of the Stranded pan Network. You can find my
work in the show notes links below. Check us out
on social media. You can find this show at Strandedpanda
(50:17):
dot com and everywhere else you get your podcasts. If
you have questions or comments, please feel free to write
to us at Bill and ash Terror.
Speaker 4 (50:23):
Theater at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
We're dying to hear from you, and of course, join
our spooky patron at Patreon dot com slash Bill and
Ash Terror Theater.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
See you in your night, Das
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