November 10, 2025 • 49 mins
Bill Federer, the American Minute creator, national speaker, author and historian shares the history and significance of Veterans Day celebrated every year on November 11th. Veterans Day was originally called Armistice Day in the United States, commemorating the signing of the agreement that ended World War I on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month… November 11, 1918. Join us as we remember and honor America's military.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome lad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez.
He is Bill Fetter from The American Minute. Bill. How
you doing, buddy? It is great to be with you,
Bill Well. Happy Veterans Day twenty twenty five. It is
on this day, November the eleventh, that Americans pause to
honor the brave men and women who have served in
our military. Veterans Day is an important day set as
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I had to honor and show appreciation for all bets
who have served in the United States military in wartime
or peacetime, living or deceased.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, Yes, yes, It's an important holiday that traces back
to World War One for those not familiar. It was
on the eleventh hour, the eleventh day of the eleventh month,
and November eleventh, it's eleven o'clock. In nineteen eighteen that
World War One ended and it was a ceasefire. It
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is called an armistice, and ironically it was signed at
five am, and they picked the piece to go into
effect at eleven am, right, and in that short time
between five and eleven guess what, another eleven thousand men died.
They were like, okay, the war's about to be over.
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Let's let's try to get a little bit more land.
So when it ends, well, it's like anyway. But following
World War One, which was called the War to End
All Wars, President Warren Harding in nineteen twenty one had
the remains of an unknown soldier killed in France brought
to Arlington Cemetery and buried in the Tomb of the Unknown.
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And you know, you can read the reports. You know,
they send somebody over there. He goes into a room
full of coffins and they want to randomly pick there's
a person that these are guys that they you know,
found the bodies without dog tacks, and so they didn't
know who they were, and he puts a rose on
one of the coffins, and that's how it was picked.
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And they bring it over and they bury it in
the tomb of the unknown, so they did not know
who it was. And then inscribed on the tomb are
the words here rests in honored glory an American soldier
known but to God. Wow, that's Calvin Coolidge nineteen twenty
four dedicated the dedication to the monument to the American
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Expeditionary Forces, and he said this, They did not regard
it as a national or personal opportunity for gain or
fame or glory, but as a call to sacrifice for
the support of humane principles and spiritual ideals. If any
doubt doubts the sacrifices which they have been willing to
make in behalf of what they believe to be the
welfare of other nations, let them gaze upon this monument
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and others like memorials that have been reared in every
quarter of our broad land. Let them look upon the
representatives gathering of our veterans, and let them remember that
America has dedicated itself to the service of God and man.
And I just think it's important to understand that faith
was an integral part of Veterans Day, right exactly. Coolidge
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nineteen twenty six issued a proclamation honoring Veterans Day every year,
so that's when you begin to see at an annual
eventnineteen thirty eight. It became a legal holiday nineteen thirty eight,
and so in nineteen fifty four they changed the name
from Armistice or Ceasefire to Veterans Day, so instead of
Armistice Day, it's Veterans Day. And then they broadened it
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to honor veterans of all of America's wars, not just
World War One. And so four million Americans served in
World War One, and sixteen million served in World War Two,
and nearly seven million served in the Korean War, nine
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million during the Vietnam War, and from the First Gulf
War to the present at least eight million men and
women served. And now, for those not familiar, Veterans Day
is to honor the living veterans. Memorial Day is to
honor those who have died serving the country. The what's
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the difference from a Veterans Day Memorial Day, Well, one
is the living veterans and the others a memorial to
those who have died.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, Bill, isn't a Memorial Day starting to broaden out
a little bit because you have you know, some vets
did not die in battle, but they die subsequent from
battle wounds, and they have now been I understand, are
being honored in the more Memorial Day context because their
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sacrifice is as worthy as any even though their death
was you know, in a different situation. Wasn't on the battlefield,
but it was subsequent to ruins or something that happened
in the battle.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you got you know,
loss of limbs, you got PTSD, you've got agent orange,
you got all these things that they suffered, but while
serving that they later died of. Yeah, but they risked
their lives to preserve the freedoms that we have. And
among these freedoms is for freedom of conscience, freedom of speech,
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freedom of press, freedom of religion. And these are valuable.
They're under threat around the world today. I recently was
with a Anglican priest, Calvin Robinson, and he's a big, tall,
a black gentleman. You may have seen his videos of
him debating at Oxford, and he's brilliant and he moved
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to Grand Rapids Michigan to pastor a church and he says,
I cannot go back to England. I said what he goes, Yes,
censorship laws, that's right. Sixteen thousand people in prison in England,
some for as little as liking a post or forwarding
a post, some for viewing a post. He says, murders
and rapist out of jail, so they can put people
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that have liked a post in jail in England. And
then in Germany they're weaponizing the government against people, even
using high tech. There's an AfD party which is sort
of the Freedom party over there, and they've had like
a dozen candidates mysteriously die while they're getting close to winning,
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sort of like Mexico. Like every year when they have elections,
they have have dozens of candidates that some get assassinated
while they're taking a selfie with somebody. And then I
was recently in Soul, Korea with Charlie Kirk. Four days
before he died. We met with pastor Song Young Bo
Song and he organized a million Koreans to protest the
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trans bill that they were pushing, and the government raids
his house, seiz his cell phones and computers files twenty
two Law fair charges against him. And we're meeting with
Charlie Kirk, and Charlie says, if they arrest you up personally,
I'm going to call President Trump. Well, they arrested him
two days after we left. He's in prison right now.
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His staff said, we're going to focus on this political
weaponization against Christians in South Korea. We have one last
event in Utah, then we're going to focus on it.
Obviously that didn't happen. Freedoms that we enjoy in America,
they're rare and they need to be defended. And we
honor the veterans who were willing to risk their lives
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to defend these freedoms, and so we can pass on
to our children a country with the freedoms that we inherited.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And Bill, as much as you know about history, and
you see this encroachment on our freedoms, on freedoms outside
of America, I mean, because they still in Western civilization
respect and honor some of these freedoms they have traditionally
and for them to be impinged on, what kind of
warning does that give you as a historian in terms
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of what is near and present in terms of a
danger to America.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, you see that people that don't. It's the price
of liberty is eternal vigilance. In other words, what do
you do to you have to get weeds in your yard? Nothing?
You do nothing, and you get weeds. It's sort of automatic.
What do you do to have your freedom? Stick away?
To sit back? And the people with ill intent will
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encroach on your freedoms? And so you have you know.
Deuteronomy twenty eight has blessings and cursings. It says, if
a nation hearkens to the voice of the Lord, they'll
be the heading, out the tail above and up. And
if a nation does not hearken to the voice the Lord,
it says, the stranger will come in amongst you and
rise up above you, and they will be the head,
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and you will be the tail. They'll be above, you'll
be you need you'll they'll lend to you, and you'll
have to borrow it. So how did God judge Ancs
and Israel. He let the stranger come in the malchi
hit tag mobi, turbite, mosquito, bye, parasite. All the ocres
exactly pressed the children visual until what until they repented,
and then God rings up a delivered and drove them
out and then the cycle went in again every forty years.
And so America has been blessed, but we've turned our
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back on God. And so now we see we're the
most indebt nation in world history, thirty eight trillion dollars exactly.
And debt is a curse. Tell people, debt is fat
to the body politic, it's like what And it's like, well,
what's fat? Well, you eat something you shouldn't and you
got to carry it around. It's dead weight. It's not
brain tissue or muscle cells. It's just fat. But you
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have to keep it alive. It takes effort. And so
what's debt? You spend money you shouldn't have spent it,
but you got to pay interest on it. And in
the next ten years, if this isn't fixed, all of
the money from taxes will just go to paying the
interest on the debt.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At that point, we're already paying more in interest so
that than we do are foreign military. Right now, we're
up over a trillion dollars in interest payments now. Bill.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and you know the Bible says a good man
leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Well, what do
you call somebody who leaves a debt to their children's children, right, right,
So we need to be concerned and we on veterans
stay remember those who are willing to pay the ultimate
price for our freedoms, and we why do we do
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this to remind us that we have to pay a
price to pass it on to our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Exactly. Well, Bill, you know you talk about the stranger
coming in. I mean, of course, we just had a
big election for the biggest city in our country, New York,
and you've got a Muslim, no apologetics, no apology whatsoever.
He's a Muslim, and he's now taken over with promises
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that many of us, many of us conservatives, just like
so many things that have come down the pike. You know,
we've seen on the horizon what it brings, whether it's
the Affordable Care Act or some of these other government
programs that we see that are just a ruse. They're
just to get votes. They really can deliver. And we've
warned people time and time again, and here again we
warn people about what Mamdani has to offer in terms
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of everything, including a free lunch. I guess, but you
know this is all representative to where our country is going.
As you mentioned as we have continued to turn our
back on God. This has been going on for over
one hundred years. It's been a gradual, progressive march through
all the institutions, and our disconnection from God is being demonstrated.
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The results of that, the fruit of that, are becoming
more and more evident. You just mentioned, you know, one thing,
which is our debt. But look what's happening to our marriages,
our family. You know, the absolute horror surgeries that are
happening to young kids because they want to change their sex,
and all this gender confusion that's taken place. I mean,
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it's it's like we've lost our minds. Bill.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, you know, there is even a verse. I think
it was in either a Ezekiel or Isaiah, but it
says that one of the judgments, he says, this will
happen to that, and he says you'll rip off your
own breasts. Yes, talking about women was like, what a
weird judgment. It's like these surgeries. Yes, you know, I
was sad.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But I mean you look at building stuff for just
a minute. I mean, this is like a sala moment.
You never once surrounded the Bible. You hear Selah and
you just got to pause and embrace and meditate on
that for just a moment. The Word of God even
warns you that you're going to rip off your own breast,
and we're doing this right now in twenty twenty five,
to our young girls. What I mean, if this is
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in some form of judgment, I don't know what is Bill.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So. A month ago I spoke for a pastor, Chris
Toma in Michigan, and one of the other speakers was
Chloe Cole. She was twelve years old, going through a
normal adolescent tomboy phase, searching for OURDA. And the school
comes and they're all, oh, well, you're really a boy
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and a girl's body, and if you get these hormones,
and they put them and then they sit the parents
down and they say, would you rather have a trans
son or a dead daughter? And the parents are like
surrounded by these people with the white coach and they're
like uh uh, And so they sign sign her away
and later they find out the statistics are the exact opposite.
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It is the trans agenda that causes them to want
to commit suicide exactly after they get the surgeries. It's skyrockets.
It's horrible anyway, You could have heard a pin drop
in the room when she spoke, because she walks through
them saying, okay, well, once you get these surgeries, you
really feel like you're you, and you'll just really feel
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and so, you know, she goes through with the surgeries,
and then afterwards they're all there. But then after the
years go on, they go on their own ways, and
she's left by herself looking in the mirror, thinking what
did I do? And then she talks to the doctors, well,
we had to affirm you in your decision. She goes,
I was a twelve year old, right, And she goes
to the parents and then the parents are like, well
they told us you you'd commit suicide, and so now
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she's speaking out against it, and so we need to
get some common sense here. I had somebody explain that
you have your cells replaced themselves, right, your stomach tissue
lighting cells like every week, and your bone cells every
couple of years. And so even if you take hormones,
all it is doing is suppressing the genetic expression right
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of your psychual gene. It doesn't change its right. Whenever
you get a new cell being created, any every single
cell in your body, it's either y X or xx
and females are xx. So every new cell it's created,
it says I want to go back to being a woman,
and so they got to take more hormones to suppress its. Right.
It's like the body is crying out to get back
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to normal. Right. But anyway, these are judgments on the country.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you look about by the way that verse, Ezekiel,
you were right, Ezekiel, twenty three thirty four, Bill twenty
three thirty four.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And I.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Must have read I know I've read it a hundred times.
I don't know how I didn't relate to it. So
thank you for bringing that up. And I think it's
going to be awareness for you know, our viewers and
listeners to see that. Look at God's pretty clear. I mean,
you know, you think about how Almighty is and what
he created here. You know, you're just talking about ourselves
and how they reproduce our DNA. You know a lot
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of conversation about you know, when when when when his
life begin? And Charlie Kirk understood that it began. It
began in an instant, in that first moment of conception.
Within the hour Bill, your entire DNA code everything at
that moment when when when the sperm hits the woman's egg.
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It that's where life begins. Because everything God, God, in
his genius and is almighty wisdom puts everything into that.
You know on programs, that egg right there on the
spot in the first hour. It is that conception clearly,
you know, I mean common sense.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
If something is sitting there in a in a petri
dish and it's not moving versus something that is multiplying
millions by millions of cells every second, it's like, okay,
I think that's living. It's it's multiply, it's a living
Where the other is the moment you had the twenty
three male chromosomes meet with the female twenty three chromosomes
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and you have a complete forty six chromosome. And right
then and there they have it under a microscope that
there's a flash of light. Right it immediately starts dividing
in two four six. It was just rapid, rap and rapid.
Then millions of cells. There's life, yes, and it's a
human life. Jesus was in Mary's womb from the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Of conception exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
But you know we were talking about, you know, judgment
in Isaiah, there's a vers as. God said I created this,
I created that, and then it says I created the devourer.
And I thought that's sort of weird. And I thought, well,
you know, he did create the angel that killed the right,
the first born in the age of death. And then
I thought, you know, everything that dies there is a devourer.
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A bird dies before long, there are ants that are
drawn to it and eat it up. A dog gets
hit by a car before long, there's buzzards that are
attracted to it and eat it up. A fish in
a pond dies while little microbes come and eat it up. Well,
guess what if you have a spiritually dead and dying nation,
It's going to attract devours. They're going to want to
come in and then eat off and destroy it. And
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so what do you do when you're under judgment? You
repent really fast.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, And when you you would hope, you would hope
that would be the case. I mean, you'd be like ninevah, right, ninevah.
Here's the word of the prophet, and everybody's in sackcloth,
including the animals. I mean, they responded right away. Here
in America, we've had warnings and we're you know, slow, slow,
to realizing. You know, as you say, Bill, and you
and I've had this discussion before. Starts with repentance. You know,
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you've got to understand what it is that you've you've
done to offend God.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Right, Yeah, So he's aust God, which he has to
judge every sin because if he doesn't judge the sin,
he'd be denying his just nature. So he can put
off the judgment. And of course the gospel is Jesus
taking the judgment in our place. So Jesus steps up
and takes the hit in our place. But there's a
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quote from George Mason. He was one of the founding fathers,
and he says, as nations cannot be rewarded or punished
in the next world, they must be in this by
inevitable chain of consequences and events. God punishes national sins
with national calamities. And so it's this idea that if
a nation sins, God sends prophets tell him to repent,
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brand if they don't, it says, he sends judgment. Right
when Solomon sinned, he says, I'm going to raise up
Jerebohm and bring it back in. He's going to rip
ten tribes away and so you think of this devourer
coming in and then you look at the the Islam
and how it progresses. So you know, Mohammed was a
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religious leader in Mecca only make Bebindy converts. He gets confrontational,
they chase him out of town. He's a Muslim refugee.
He goes to a Jewish city called Yatrib or a Medina,
and the Jews let him in as a Muslim immigrant,
and he goes into the minority neighborhood and he begins
to organize a following like a community organizer. And when
his following gets big enough, he gets involved in politics,
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and he and his followers pressured the Jews to accommodate
them politically, and so now Mohammed's elected a political leader
in the city. And then when Mohammed's followers get chased
out of Mecca for disturbing the peace, there's a lot
of Muslim immigrants and they come into this Jewish city
of Medina. Now there's lots of them, and Mohammed allows
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him to rob the caravans headed back to Mecca and
retaliation for the Meccans chasing them out. It's the victimhood.
You're the victim of their intelligce so you can rob
the caravans, you can retaliate, And so Mohammed personally fought
in sixty six battles and raids, killing an estimated three
thousand people. And within five years of Mohammed coming into
this Jewish town as an immigrant, there is not a
Jew left in the town of Medina. They were chased out,
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killed or enslaved. Within fifty years of his death, every
pre existing culture in Arabia is wiped out. Within the
next hundred years, they conquered North Africa, which used to
be Christian. You know, Saint Augustin of Hippo was from Carthage,
today's Tunisia. Egypt used to be Christian evangelized by Mark
that wrote the Gospel. Syria used to be Christian evangelized
by Paul. You know, Turkey used to be the seven
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Churches of the Book of Revelation. And they all get conquered.
And so it's this idea that there's a fourteen hundred
year track record where we can see this immigrant increase
eliminate take place. They come into Europe as immigrants and
then they end up the Europeans have maybe one child
per family and they wait until they're almost forty to
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have it. And the Muslims come in and they can
have four wives and put them each in an apartment,
and then tell them to go down to the welfare
office and get welfare checks. Say the husband's not wrong.
And then the man visits his wives, and the more
children they have, the larger the welfare checks get. Exactly,
living like a mere sultan with his harem, and it's
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all paid for at state expense.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Talk to somebody in Detroit. They described the same thing
happening right here in America.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I was going to say, that's exactly the same thing, Bill.
I was looking at some stats here, how Islam is
colonizing non Muslim countries. Austria in twenty ten population four
undred and seventy five thousand, it's projected that they'll grow
by sixty eight percent in about four years from now
seven hundred and ninety nine thousand. Let's look at France,
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for example, four point seven million in twenty ten, they'll
be up to six point eight million in twenty thirty.
That's a forty six percent growth here, this is pretty
In New Zealand, forty one thousand now grown to one
hundred and one thousand in twenty thirty, one hundred and
forty six percent growth, Ireland forty three to one hundred
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and twenty five hundred and ninety one percent growth. The
United States of America two point five million in twenty ten,
projected to be in twenty thirty six point two million
Muslims growth of one hundred and forty percent. The United
Kingdom that we mentioned earlier start a two point eight
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percent two point eight million in twenty ten. By twenty thirty,
they'll be at five point five million. So to your point,
everybody else's birthrate, of course, we know in America it's unsustainable.
I think last year was one point two per household,
one point two per couple, and meanwhile Muslims are pro
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creating at rates of eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah. I had someone explained to me that in Islam
is a social stigma for a woman to have less
than five children, and then they're not supposed to leave
their house without a male relative. Right, So so you
go to Germany and they'll be the Muslim woman and
they'll always have a little boy with them, and because
they have to have a male relative with them when
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they leave the house, right, it's you real law. But
you look at New York and eighty they said, eighty
percent of the women voted for mandami and now there's
immediately calls for sharia law in New York. And so
these women are like, they don't realize that they better
they're going to start having to where the burkas are
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get raped, you think.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I mean, the every thing I'm thinking, Bill is that
you know, I was talking to my wife about this.
I said, uh, I don't know if I could handle
that screaming sound for the sound to call to prayer
five times a day. When I was in you know,
visiting Jerusalem and you know, we're at the whaling wall,
and all of a sudden I hear the blast of
the call to prayer. It's not a pleasant sound. Barack
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Obama said, oh, it's a beautiful sound. I mean, it
was like chuck hitting the chalkboard. My you know, the
hair on the back of my my neck was standing up.
I was so irritating. Well, and.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's but that's part of the plan. In ham trammck, Michigan,
they have a Muslim city Council and they voted to
have calls to prayer five times a day. It makes
the non Muslims feel uncomfortable, so they move out, and
that's the goal. Once they move out, they take over
the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, like I said, it's been a consistent progression, and
here we are and look what's going on. George Barne
just reported, you know, to your point in terms of
people's respective of sin, Bill, I mean they're very casual
about sin anymore. I mean the percentages of Christians who
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even you know, consider sin as as a serious offense
to God. I mean it's become very contemporary, very modernistic,
and casual.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah. You know. I wrote a book called Believe, and
in there I go through how God is just. He's
a god of laws, laws of planets, are very emotion,
laws of physics, and and he has laws for human behavior.
It's called being just, which means he has to judge
every sin, every sin, because if he does not judge
usin by default, his silence would be giving consent to
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the sin rule of tested admission. So in a wedding ceremony,
if you're silent, you're giving your consent. And so if
there are sins and God's not judging them, he's denying
his own just nature, and he cannot deny himself. So
his very nature is he has to judge the sin.
Now the Lamb he sent his son to take the
judgment for the sin. So the Lamb is God's way
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to get around his own just nature, so he does
not change his just nature. He's just forever, was is,
and will be just. But he's loving and that he
provides the Lamb, his son to take the judgment for
the sin exactly. So that's how we can approach this
all just God and not half st worry about being
judged because but.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There are some things built though that God has built
into the system, you know, that are established and in
the design that we are judged when we, you know,
go go outside of the boundaries. For example, there's the
law gravity. Violate the law gravity, you'll find out it's there.
And I believe there's other laws that are built in
that you violate that you know that you know the
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blood of the Lamb in a sense, it's it's there.
But even if you if you don't acknowledge the blood
of the Lamb and you don't want to bend your
knee and surrender yourself to God's provision for sin, you're
still going to realize some judgment in some consequence for
violating God's law. There's some inherent laws that are built
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in and I'm not sure if I'm saying that right
and if you're tracking with me on it, because I
think that, yes, there's some some ultimate judgment that comes
in on major issues, and that's happened from time to time,
you know, with the flood and other times when God
stepped in, you know, to bring the children out of Israel.
There was ten incredible judgments on Egypt and all their gods,
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and there's been examples of that happen in our history.
But there are other I think some other just built
in just and devices, but just foundational principles that are
in the system that if you violate it, you're going
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to realize that God is just and there is judgment
for violating those rules and laws.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Is that fair to say, yeah, you got King David.
He sinds with Beshiba, has her husband Yuryah killed. The
prophet Nathan comes to him, says, thou art the man.
David repents. God says, I'll forgive you, but you're going
to have the repercussions of turmoil in your own household,
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and sure enough he said that you slept with Besheban secret. Well,
guess what, somebody's going to come after you and they're
going to sleep with all your wife in the open.
And that's what happened to Abslom set up a tent.
You're right, I had you know anyway, you you have
these within his own household. David had his oldest son, Amnon,
rape a daughter, Tamars murdered by the son. You know,
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Evslam tries to overthrow David at and I just tries
to overthrow David. So yes, God forgave him, but he
had these repercussions. So so you know, we we do.
God does forgive us, but sometimes there are things that
that you can't undo. I mean, you can't unkill somebody,
right if you can't, uh, and so so it's it's
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this serious thing. But we thank God for the Gospel.
But as George Mason said, as nations cannot be rewarded
to punish in the next world, they must be in
this so God can forgive us and save us individually,
but still judge the nation. It's like Jeremiah the prophet.
God spared him, but he did judge Jerusalem. So but
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you know, if you're under judgment, it's like magnets, and
you turn the magnet and it instantly goes from attracting
the judgment to repelling the judgment and then attracting God's blessings.
So and Jeremiah says, if I pronounce to a nation
judgment and the nation repents, I won't judge him. But
if I pronounce blessings and they continue to say, well guess
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what I'll change, I'll judge them. God loves us, but
the little copyat there is he loves us so much
he's jealous if he loves something else more than him.
And so we have to realize that here, the creator
of the universe is jealous for our thoughts and our attention.
And so that's why we read his word, and that
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why we seek him. We don't do it out of
a fear. We do it out of love. But he
loves us, and he wants to love him. He wants
to love us back. And of course it's his love first.
It's the love of God that brings ment repentance. While
we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, so he
was the initiator. We respond to it and.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Anyway, well, Billy, I think it's you know, we're in
a situation where as the country continues to become more
and more secular, and as you say, we get the
Stranger coming into our land and taking over now the
biggest city in our country. This, this is, this is
a terrible omen. I mean, this should be something a
wake up call, especially for people of faith. You know,
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we have you know, we can be thankful for Charlie
Kirk and his efforts and his sacrifices martyrdom and what
it's done for the younger generation. In terms of potentially igniting, well,
I would say it's beyond potential. I mean it's definitely igniting.
I say, bonfires of revival. We have, you know, young
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kids coming to Jesus, and in record numbers right now
the Bible. I think, what last month, It's always been
the number one selling book, but increase in sales forty
seven percent. Bill Yeah, so you know, so there is
I think some you say, some curiosity. I pray that
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you know, the Holy Spirit, just like in Genesis, hovers
over the void, the darkness, that the Holy Spirit is
faithfully hovering over the darkness of the young people and
the confusion of these young people and bringing the truth
to them in such a way and giving them direction obviously.
I mean they're looking to the word of God, and
I pray that their young minds would be enlightened and
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they would be able to receive what God is telling
them right now. And you know that this is more
than just a you know, a fad or just a
minor movement, that this is so incredible that we're able
to realize a true awakening like we've had in previous
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revivals in our country. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I had somebody explain that they foresaw that this next
year is going to be one of extreme You're going
to have the people on the left be more vile
and more vicious and more out in the open Satanism right.
And then on the other side you're going to be
people more excited for Jesus. I mean, they've had one
hundred and sixty thousand requests for Turning Point chapters since
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Charlie's death. I mean, we're seeing this revival and it's
almost like God saying, Okay, we're getting close to the
end times. I don't know when it's going to be.
I sort of think it's like a GPS on your phone.
We're going to get to the destination of the Book
of Revelation. If you repent, it can take the long route.
You don't repent, it can take the direct route. Right.
But at God's saying, okay, we're getting closer to the end,
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and you're a free will creature. I'm not force you,
but I need you to hurry up and make your decision.
So I'm going to make it really clear. I'm going
to pull back the curtain like the end of The
Wizard of Oz. You see the dog pulls back the garden,
and as an old man in a microphone, you're not
afraid of him anymore. But it's like, okay, God, devil,
choose right. And some people are going to choose the
all others right. So I go the wedding, you know,
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forsaking of all others and choosing the one. Some people
are going to choose the all others right. They're gonna
want to be liked and friended and followed so much,
and they're going to be so fearful of somebody posting
something negative about them on the Internet and blocking and
canceling and unfriending them, and they're like, okay, oh, cave.
I'll believe whatever you tell me to believe. I just
want you to like me. And there's like, you know,
it's a moving goalpost. If you draw your self esteem
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from being accepted by people, it's going to continue to
move like a log in a river headed toward a
waterfall until it gets to the end and it's finally
going to be okay to be accepted by the group.
You got to accept satan.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
And it's like, and I remember being with Charlie Kirkane.
He says, I'm sorry, I don't tolerate satan. Well, you're intolerant.
He goes, that's right, I don't tolerate draw the line here.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, Yeah, you have to know, you have to know
the difference. And it's just like, you know, I've always
used this analogy Bill in talking to our audience in
the show, is that bank tellers, for example, how they
can acknowledge and recognize legitimate money. You know, they don't
study counterfeit. They study the legitimate. And I think we
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can learn from that and understanding that we must study
the legitimate when it comes to the spiritual and not
the counterfeit. And people are lord, you know, Tuiji boards
some mystic things that detract them from the truth of God.
And they will be they will be the ones who
will be fooled that will come to Jesus on that
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day and say, but Lord, I you know, I cast
you know, demons out in your name. I served you
in this way and that way. And Jesus is going
to say, you know, get away from me. I don't
even know you. And and I mean just the mere
thought that God would say that, it just, you know,
it really, it scares me enough. It scares the hell
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out of me. I guess I just say, if I
can put it in those.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Terms, Yeah, you know, you said, I know you, and
I thought. I did a book on the history of Islam.
It's called What Every American Needs Know About the Quran,
a History of Islam in the United States. And there's
no concept in Islam of knowing Allah. Allah is unknowable.
He is forever unknowable. Even the next life, you'll never
meet Allah. He's forever unknowable. But you can trust that
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with Christianity, and Jesus said, and this is eternal life,
that they may know you the only true God and
Jesus Christ from you have sin right. And the idea
is that God wants us to have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
With him exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
And that's so you I was thinking of what makes
a stranger into a friend a relationship, right, there's that,
you know, David Nathan the prophet said, Okay, there's this
guy with a thousand sheep, and this one guy just
has one little sheep and he raises it like a
daughter and feeds it from his table and hugs it.
And then the rich guy has a visitor and he
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wants to feed him, so he takes the one guy's
one little sheep and kills it and serves at his food.
And David said, who is that man? I'll kill him?
And of course Nathan says, now, arn't the man because
you took you know, your eye of his wife. But
why was David so upset? They're all just sheep. This
man had a relationship with it. It's the relationship that
adds value exactly, right. So what makes us valuable to
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God is a relationship.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
He created us for fellowship, He created us for a relationship.
And if you're not going to bother wanting to know
God in this life, what makes you think you're going
to want to know him in the next life. But
if you want to have a relationship with him now,
that relationship makes you valuable to him.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Exactly. Yeah, well said Bill. And you know, going back
to what you were, I know what I wanted to
say is that here. Recently, I was talking to some
men and they said, well, you know, the Muslims say
that they worship the same God as Abraham. And I said,
that's a big lie. And they were kind of shocked.
They go, well, yeah, I mean it's Old Testament, it's
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Abraham's God. I said, no, because they don't. They don't
believe in Almighty God the way the Christians do, the
way the Bible says. I said, just go to Genesis one,
the first verse. This is in the beginning God. They
don't believe in the triing in God, so they can't
believe in the same God that Abraham believed in because
Ilohem his Father's son in Holy Spirit. They don't believe
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in Jesus. They don't believe in the Holy Spirit, So
how could they believe in the same God.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know, I in my book whatever American needs to
know about the Crown, I have a comparison to Jesus
and Mohammad. Why well, people say, well, you know, yeah,
Muslims kill people, but Christians kill people. I mean, in
the Middle Ages, popes had armies. It's like, let's not
compare the followers. Let's compare the Founders. The largest in
the religion in the world's Christianity thirty three percent. The
second largest religion in the world is isl I'm twenty
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two percent. And let's compare the Founders the two largest
religions in the world. Jesus never killed anybody. Mohammad killed
an estimated three thousand people. Jesus never owned slaves. Mohammad
owned slaves. He was a white Arab and he owned
black slaves. Jesus never married Mohammed anywhere from eleven to
twenty two wives as young at Aisha was nine years
old when it was consummated. Jesus never tortured anybody. Mohammad
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stretched the chief of Kaibar out on the ground, kindle
a fire on his chest because he wouldn't tell where
the treasure was hidden. Jesus forgave insults right there, crucifying Father,
forgive them. Well, Mohammad avenged insults. When he comes into Mecca.
A guy had made up poems making fun of Mohammed
had his two slave girls reciting the poems. Mohammad was
insulted by the poem, so he orders a murdered. Jesus
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did not allow his disciples to rape anyone Duh Mohammad did,
and there's always Haddees that talk about it. None of
the apostles were governors or generals. Every one of the
caliefhs was a governor in a general. Jesus taught God
was our father. In islamis blasphemy to call Allah your father.
Jesus thought were made in the image of God, and
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Islam Allah has no image. Jesus thought to have a
personal relationship with God, and islamas blast me to have
a personal relationship with Alah. Jesus said, he go to
a town, present the gospel. If they don't receive you,
chake the dust and leave. Mohama, go to a town
they don't receive you, wage war on the town. The
first three centuries of Christianity, there are ten major persecutions
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of Christians. They're thrown to the lions and they never
once let an armed resistance. First three centuries of Islam,
they conquer from Arabia to Paris. They're stopped outside of
Paris at the Battle of Tours. And so we see
that one is voluntary and the other is involuntary. A
friend of mine has a ministry to Muslims, and he
says that the one verse that he's found is the
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most effective in witnessing is Isaiah. I think it's sixty one,
where it says, the Spirit of Law is upon me
because he is annoyed to me, to preach the gospel
to the poor, to set the captives free, recovery aside
to the blind, and to heal the broken hearted. And
of course the same verse that Jesus read, Jesus said
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that regarding himself, if the spirit lawd was the department
of Jesus. But at that line to heal the broken hearted,
there's no concept in all of Islam that all wants
to heal your broken heart. Allah could care less about
your broken heart. He wants submission exactly. And so when you,
when you witness to a Muslims, say God, God cares
about your broken he cares about the struggles you're going through,
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they have no They'll argue all day long about the
other stuff, but they can't argue on that because bypasses
the mind and it goes right to the heart. Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's I'll tell you this is again. God is faithful,
and Muslims like Christians, like people who claim to be
agnostic and atheists. You know, he created, He created us all,
and he wants us all home with him. Bill, in
spite of all this, as you said, he's a forgiving god,
so much so that he sent his son and to
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put him through all that he had to go through
the sacrifice that's so unbearable. And you know, I was
looking at the cross the other day. I was in Mass,
and I'm looking at the cross and you see it
and it's you know, it's kind of the cleaned up
body of Jesus hanging there from the cross, and I'm going,
that's such a poor because you think about it at Calvary,
when Jesus was on the cross, he was so disfigured.
(42:05):
It just had to look just like a just a
carved up piece of humanity, you know, in skin, just
hanging off of him from all the scourging and everything
that went through. And I just pondered on that, and
it crushed me Bill to think, you know, okay, you know,
we look at a cleaned up version of it. But
in reality, all that Jesus went through so that we
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would be back where God always wanted us. And that's
with him communing. Going back to what you said earlier,
having that relationship with the Father.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, you know, I was thinking of a canaan Abel
Cain wanted to worship God. But he did it through
his works. And we know it works because God told Adam,
the ground has cursed for your sake, and you'll bring
forth fruit by the sweat of your brow. So what
his work? So Kine's trying to work his way to happen.
But did God accept Kine's works? No, and Able trusted
in the lamb. And it's this picture that God's on
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one side. I'm on the other side. My sins separate
me from God, and the lamb takes the judgment for
the sin in my place. And so Abraham offered lambs.
No offered lambs. When he got off the arc right,
he had two of every animal, but seven pair every
clean animal. Moses had every family kill a lamb with
the blood over the door post of the house. The
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high priest brought the blood of the lamb into the
holy holies Solomon had a thousand of them sacrificed when
he dedicated the temple. Finally, John the Baptist points at
Jesus and says, behold the Lamb of God, who take
it away the sins of the world. So God's on
one side, we're on the other side, our sin separated
from God. And the Lamb took the judgment for all
the sins, and so then we're restored to fellowship with God.
And it's not based on us being good enough. It's
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based on the Lamb being good enough to take the
judgment in our place.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Right exactly. Yeah, there we are back to focusing on
the legitimate versus the counterfeit. Right, And ever since Jesus
came on the scene, even before, there were all kinds
of counterfeits, and we've been warned about the counterfeits that
are there. But meanwhile, as you had mentioned earlier, or
you know, all this is happening side by side, like
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you said, and I thought it was interesting because here
we are and you said that. Somebody said that next
year you're going to have this demarcation of really what
it comes down to is good and evil, and you're
going to have revival taking place on one hand, and
then you're going to have satanism, an increasing amount of
display of satanism and hedonism, and that that's taking place.
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And I when I asked got about this, he just said,
wheats and terrors. You know, the wheats and terrors are
growing at the same time, and that's and we need
to be careful that we don't fall into the terrors,
that we maintain a wheat mindset, so to speak. Right.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, I talked to somebody and they said that they
were in some city and they ran into this woman.
She goes, I'm a Wiccan missionary from London to America
and we go down to the city park every Saturda night.
We put hexes on people and it's like, you know
here they are coming here. And so it's one of choices.
And I think God is going to have some people
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right for thinking of all others and choosing the one.
Some people are going to choose the all others, but
I think there's going to be more and more people
choosing the one, and I'm going to see more and more.
I just I'm here in Fort Worth, Texas, uh speaking
at a college, and a young man I just visited
with said he's from a missionary family in Indonesia, and
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he says, Muslims are coming to Christ. He says in Iran.
He says, there's thousands and thousands of them, and they're
having dreams about Jesus. And so I think God is
pushing the world to a decision making moment, right, and
this is our turn to say, you know, I mean,
think of it. He said, well, God knows my heart. Well, yeah,
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he knew Abraham's heart, but he still wanted to see
Abraham do something, take a son out to the top
of Mount Mariah. And it's like, how would that play
out with with your wife? Imagine a guy watching football
and you say, when was the last time you told
your wife your lover? He's like, I can't remember, but
she knows my heart. It's like, okay, right, one was
the last time you did anything to show your wife
your lover? He's like, I can't remember, but she knows
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my heart. It's like, dude, we need to have a
little marriage counseling. He was like, God knowes my heart. Yes,
he does. He knows it really well, and he wants
to hear some words out of your mouth and actions
so that you show on the outside in this physical
world through your words and actions, what you really really
believe on the inside. Exactly, there's no words and actions,
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maybe there's no real belief on the inside.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah. Well, Bill, you know, we're celebrating today, and thank
you so much for you know, spending time with us
and going to walk down history talking about these issues
of the spirit that are so critical in these times
that we live in today. And I kind of want
to wrap this up with one of our favorite poems
for Veteran's Day. I love this poem says, it is
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the soldier, not the minister, who has given us freedom
of religion. It is the soldier, not the reporter, who
has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier,
not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has
given us freedom to protest. It is the soldier, not
the lawyer, who has given us the right to a
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fair trial. It is the soldier, not the politician, who
has given us the right to vote. It is the
soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows
the protester to burn the flag. I just I love that.
I love that poem and it always brings me to
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a level of emotion that in light of Veterans Day,
we have so much to be thankful for in this
great country that we're blessed. And as long as we
continue to trust in God and believe and yield to
God's will, God will continue to bless our nation and
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we will be able to realize this repentance and revival
that you and I've been talking about. Bill, we got
about thirty seconds left. I'll let you wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go ahead, Yeah. Yeah. Years ago Rhys Lloyd had me
at an American Legion event in the out California. But
you know, the American Legion nineteen fifty four had a
back to God program, and Eisenhower addressed him as a
former soldier. I'm delighted our veterans of sponsoring movement to
increase our awareness of God. In battle, they learned a
great truth. There's no atheist in the foxholes. And then
he goes on to say that we should remember the
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father of our country, Washington. And then he, of course
Eyesenow is the one to put in God. We trust
on our paper currency, and then under God in the
pledge of allegiance.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Exactly well, Bill Fetter, the American Minute creator, how can
people subscribe to the American Minute and be in touch
with you?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh? Thank you. It's Americanminute dot com.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Americanminute dot com, Bill Fetter, thank you so much for
being with this. Take care, God bless my friend.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Thank you, Bill
Speaker 2 (49:15):
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Hello and welcome lad you could join us. I'm Bill Martinez.
He is Bill Fetter from The American Minute. Bill. How
you doing, buddy? It is great to be with you,
Bill Well. Happy Veterans Day twenty twenty five. It is
on this day, November the eleventh, that Americans pause to
honor the brave men and women who have served in
our military. Veterans Day is an important day set as
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I had to honor and show appreciation for all bets
who have served in the United States military in wartime
or peacetime, living or deceased.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Right, Yes, yes, It's an important holiday that traces back
to World War One for those not familiar. It was
on the eleventh hour, the eleventh day of the eleventh month,
and November eleventh, it's eleven o'clock. In nineteen eighteen that
World War One ended and it was a ceasefire. It
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is called an armistice, and ironically it was signed at
five am, and they picked the piece to go into
effect at eleven am, right, and in that short time
between five and eleven guess what, another eleven thousand men died.
They were like, okay, the war's about to be over.
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Let's let's try to get a little bit more land.
So when it ends, well, it's like anyway. But following
World War One, which was called the War to End
All Wars, President Warren Harding in nineteen twenty one had
the remains of an unknown soldier killed in France brought
to Arlington Cemetery and buried in the Tomb of the Unknown.
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And you know, you can read the reports. You know,
they send somebody over there. He goes into a room
full of coffins and they want to randomly pick there's
a person that these are guys that they you know,
found the bodies without dog tacks, and so they didn't
know who they were, and he puts a rose on
one of the coffins, and that's how it was picked.
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And they bring it over and they bury it in
the tomb of the unknown, so they did not know
who it was. And then inscribed on the tomb are
the words here rests in honored glory an American soldier
known but to God. Wow, that's Calvin Coolidge nineteen twenty
four dedicated the dedication to the monument to the American
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Expeditionary Forces, and he said this, They did not regard
it as a national or personal opportunity for gain or
fame or glory, but as a call to sacrifice for
the support of humane principles and spiritual ideals. If any
doubt doubts the sacrifices which they have been willing to
make in behalf of what they believe to be the
welfare of other nations, let them gaze upon this monument
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and others like memorials that have been reared in every
quarter of our broad land. Let them look upon the
representatives gathering of our veterans, and let them remember that
America has dedicated itself to the service of God and man.
And I just think it's important to understand that faith
was an integral part of Veterans Day, right exactly. Coolidge
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nineteen twenty six issued a proclamation honoring Veterans Day every year,
so that's when you begin to see at an annual
eventnineteen thirty eight. It became a legal holiday nineteen thirty eight,
and so in nineteen fifty four they changed the name
from Armistice or Ceasefire to Veterans Day, so instead of
Armistice Day, it's Veterans Day. And then they broadened it
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to honor veterans of all of America's wars, not just
World War One. And so four million Americans served in
World War One, and sixteen million served in World War Two,
and nearly seven million served in the Korean War, nine
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million during the Vietnam War, and from the First Gulf
War to the present at least eight million men and
women served. And now, for those not familiar, Veterans Day
is to honor the living veterans. Memorial Day is to
honor those who have died serving the country. The what's
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the difference from a Veterans Day Memorial Day, Well, one
is the living veterans and the others a memorial to
those who have died.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, Bill, isn't a Memorial Day starting to broaden out
a little bit because you have you know, some vets
did not die in battle, but they die subsequent from
battle wounds, and they have now been I understand, are
being honored in the more Memorial Day context because their
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sacrifice is as worthy as any even though their death
was you know, in a different situation. Wasn't on the battlefield,
but it was subsequent to ruins or something that happened
in the battle.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean you got you know,
loss of limbs, you got PTSD, you've got agent orange,
you got all these things that they suffered, but while
serving that they later died of. Yeah, but they risked
their lives to preserve the freedoms that we have. And
among these freedoms is for freedom of conscience, freedom of speech,
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freedom of press, freedom of religion. And these are valuable.
They're under threat around the world today. I recently was
with a Anglican priest, Calvin Robinson, and he's a big, tall,
a black gentleman. You may have seen his videos of
him debating at Oxford, and he's brilliant and he moved
(06:22):
to Grand Rapids Michigan to pastor a church and he says,
I cannot go back to England. I said what he goes, Yes,
censorship laws, that's right. Sixteen thousand people in prison in England,
some for as little as liking a post or forwarding
a post, some for viewing a post. He says, murders
and rapist out of jail, so they can put people
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that have liked a post in jail in England. And
then in Germany they're weaponizing the government against people, even
using high tech. There's an AfD party which is sort
of the Freedom party over there, and they've had like
a dozen candidates mysteriously die while they're getting close to winning,
(07:05):
sort of like Mexico. Like every year when they have elections,
they have have dozens of candidates that some get assassinated
while they're taking a selfie with somebody. And then I
was recently in Soul, Korea with Charlie Kirk. Four days
before he died. We met with pastor Song Young Bo
Song and he organized a million Koreans to protest the
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trans bill that they were pushing, and the government raids
his house, seiz his cell phones and computers files twenty
two Law fair charges against him. And we're meeting with
Charlie Kirk, and Charlie says, if they arrest you up personally,
I'm going to call President Trump. Well, they arrested him
two days after we left. He's in prison right now.
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His staff said, we're going to focus on this political
weaponization against Christians in South Korea. We have one last
event in Utah, then we're going to focus on it.
Obviously that didn't happen. Freedoms that we enjoy in America,
they're rare and they need to be defended. And we
honor the veterans who were willing to risk their lives
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to defend these freedoms, and so we can pass on
to our children a country with the freedoms that we inherited.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And Bill, as much as you know about history, and
you see this encroachment on our freedoms, on freedoms outside
of America, I mean, because they still in Western civilization
respect and honor some of these freedoms they have traditionally
and for them to be impinged on, what kind of
warning does that give you as a historian in terms
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of what is near and present in terms of a
danger to America.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, you see that people that don't. It's the price
of liberty is eternal vigilance. In other words, what do
you do to you have to get weeds in your yard? Nothing?
You do nothing, and you get weeds. It's sort of automatic.
What do you do to have your freedom? Stick away?
To sit back? And the people with ill intent will
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encroach on your freedoms? And so you have you know.
Deuteronomy twenty eight has blessings and cursings. It says, if
a nation hearkens to the voice of the Lord, they'll
be the heading, out the tail above and up. And
if a nation does not hearken to the voice the Lord,
it says, the stranger will come in amongst you and
rise up above you, and they will be the head,
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and you will be the tail. They'll be above, you'll
be you need you'll they'll lend to you, and you'll
have to borrow it. So how did God judge Ancs
and Israel. He let the stranger come in the malchi
hit tag mobi, turbite, mosquito, bye, parasite. All the ocres
exactly pressed the children visual until what until they repented,
and then God rings up a delivered and drove them
out and then the cycle went in again every forty years.
And so America has been blessed, but we've turned our
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back on God. And so now we see we're the
most indebt nation in world history, thirty eight trillion dollars exactly.
And debt is a curse. Tell people, debt is fat
to the body politic, it's like what And it's like, well,
what's fat? Well, you eat something you shouldn't and you
got to carry it around. It's dead weight. It's not
brain tissue or muscle cells. It's just fat. But you
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have to keep it alive. It takes effort. And so
what's debt? You spend money you shouldn't have spent it,
but you got to pay interest on it. And in
the next ten years, if this isn't fixed, all of
the money from taxes will just go to paying the
interest on the debt.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
At that point, we're already paying more in interest so
that than we do are foreign military. Right now, we're
up over a trillion dollars in interest payments now. Bill.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Yeah, and you know the Bible says a good man
leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Well, what do
you call somebody who leaves a debt to their children's children, right, right,
So we need to be concerned and we on veterans
stay remember those who are willing to pay the ultimate
price for our freedoms, and we why do we do
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this to remind us that we have to pay a
price to pass it on to our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Exactly. Well, Bill, you know you talk about the stranger
coming in. I mean, of course, we just had a
big election for the biggest city in our country, New York,
and you've got a Muslim, no apologetics, no apology whatsoever.
He's a Muslim, and he's now taken over with promises
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that many of us, many of us conservatives, just like
so many things that have come down the pike. You know,
we've seen on the horizon what it brings, whether it's
the Affordable Care Act or some of these other government
programs that we see that are just a ruse. They're
just to get votes. They really can deliver. And we've
warned people time and time again, and here again we
warn people about what Mamdani has to offer in terms
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of everything, including a free lunch. I guess, but you
know this is all representative to where our country is going.
As you mentioned as we have continued to turn our
back on God. This has been going on for over
one hundred years. It's been a gradual, progressive march through
all the institutions, and our disconnection from God is being demonstrated.
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The results of that, the fruit of that, are becoming
more and more evident. You just mentioned, you know, one thing,
which is our debt. But look what's happening to our marriages,
our family. You know, the absolute horror surgeries that are
happening to young kids because they want to change their sex,
and all this gender confusion that's taken place. I mean,
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it's it's like we've lost our minds. Bill.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Yeah, you know, there is even a verse. I think
it was in either a Ezekiel or Isaiah, but it
says that one of the judgments, he says, this will
happen to that, and he says you'll rip off your
own breasts. Yes, talking about women was like, what a
weird judgment. It's like these surgeries. Yes, you know, I
was sad.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
But I mean you look at building stuff for just
a minute. I mean, this is like a sala moment.
You never once surrounded the Bible. You hear Selah and
you just got to pause and embrace and meditate on
that for just a moment. The Word of God even
warns you that you're going to rip off your own breast,
and we're doing this right now in twenty twenty five,
to our young girls. What I mean, if this is
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in some form of judgment, I don't know what is Bill.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So. A month ago I spoke for a pastor, Chris
Toma in Michigan, and one of the other speakers was
Chloe Cole. She was twelve years old, going through a
normal adolescent tomboy phase, searching for OURDA. And the school
comes and they're all, oh, well, you're really a boy
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and a girl's body, and if you get these hormones,
and they put them and then they sit the parents
down and they say, would you rather have a trans
son or a dead daughter? And the parents are like
surrounded by these people with the white coach and they're
like uh uh, And so they sign sign her away
and later they find out the statistics are the exact opposite.
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It is the trans agenda that causes them to want
to commit suicide exactly after they get the surgeries. It's skyrockets.
It's horrible anyway, You could have heard a pin drop
in the room when she spoke, because she walks through
them saying, okay, well, once you get these surgeries, you
really feel like you're you, and you'll just really feel
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and so, you know, she goes through with the surgeries,
and then afterwards they're all there. But then after the
years go on, they go on their own ways, and
she's left by herself looking in the mirror, thinking what
did I do? And then she talks to the doctors, well,
we had to affirm you in your decision. She goes,
I was a twelve year old, right, And she goes
to the parents and then the parents are like, well
they told us you you'd commit suicide, and so now
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she's speaking out against it, and so we need to
get some common sense here. I had somebody explain that
you have your cells replaced themselves, right, your stomach tissue
lighting cells like every week, and your bone cells every
couple of years. And so even if you take hormones,
all it is doing is suppressing the genetic expression right
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of your psychual gene. It doesn't change its right. Whenever
you get a new cell being created, any every single
cell in your body, it's either y X or xx
and females are xx. So every new cell it's created,
it says I want to go back to being a woman,
and so they got to take more hormones to suppress its. Right.
It's like the body is crying out to get back
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to normal. Right. But anyway, these are judgments on the country.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you look about by the way that verse, Ezekiel,
you were right, Ezekiel, twenty three thirty four, Bill twenty
three thirty four.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
And I.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Must have read I know I've read it a hundred times.
I don't know how I didn't relate to it. So
thank you for bringing that up. And I think it's
going to be awareness for you know, our viewers and
listeners to see that. Look at God's pretty clear. I mean,
you know, you think about how Almighty is and what
he created here. You know, you're just talking about ourselves
and how they reproduce our DNA. You know a lot
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of conversation about you know, when when when when his
life begin? And Charlie Kirk understood that it began. It
began in an instant, in that first moment of conception.
Within the hour Bill, your entire DNA code everything at
that moment when when when the sperm hits the woman's egg.
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It that's where life begins. Because everything God, God, in
his genius and is almighty wisdom puts everything into that.
You know on programs, that egg right there on the
spot in the first hour. It is that conception clearly,
you know, I mean common sense.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
If something is sitting there in a in a petri
dish and it's not moving versus something that is multiplying
millions by millions of cells every second, it's like, okay,
I think that's living. It's it's multiply, it's a living
Where the other is the moment you had the twenty
three male chromosomes meet with the female twenty three chromosomes
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and you have a complete forty six chromosome. And right
then and there they have it under a microscope that
there's a flash of light. Right it immediately starts dividing
in two four six. It was just rapid, rap and rapid.
Then millions of cells. There's life, yes, and it's a
human life. Jesus was in Mary's womb from the moment.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Of conception exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
But you know we were talking about, you know, judgment
in Isaiah, there's a vers as. God said I created this,
I created that, and then it says I created the devourer.
And I thought that's sort of weird. And I thought, well,
you know, he did create the angel that killed the right,
the first born in the age of death. And then
I thought, you know, everything that dies there is a devourer.
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A bird dies before long, there are ants that are
drawn to it and eat it up. A dog gets
hit by a car before long, there's buzzards that are
attracted to it and eat it up. A fish in
a pond dies while little microbes come and eat it up. Well,
guess what if you have a spiritually dead and dying nation,
It's going to attract devours. They're going to want to
come in and then eat off and destroy it. And
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so what do you do when you're under judgment? You
repent really fast.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, And when you you would hope, you would hope
that would be the case. I mean, you'd be like ninevah, right, ninevah.
Here's the word of the prophet, and everybody's in sackcloth,
including the animals. I mean, they responded right away. Here
in America, we've had warnings and we're you know, slow, slow,
to realizing. You know, as you say, Bill, and you
and I've had this discussion before. Starts with repentance. You know,
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you've got to understand what it is that you've you've
done to offend God.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Right, Yeah, So he's aust God, which he has to
judge every sin because if he doesn't judge the sin,
he'd be denying his just nature. So he can put
off the judgment. And of course the gospel is Jesus
taking the judgment in our place. So Jesus steps up
and takes the hit in our place. But there's a
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quote from George Mason. He was one of the founding fathers,
and he says, as nations cannot be rewarded or punished
in the next world, they must be in this by
inevitable chain of consequences and events. God punishes national sins
with national calamities. And so it's this idea that if
a nation sins, God sends prophets tell him to repent,
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brand if they don't, it says, he sends judgment. Right
when Solomon sinned, he says, I'm going to raise up
Jerebohm and bring it back in. He's going to rip
ten tribes away and so you think of this devourer
coming in and then you look at the the Islam
and how it progresses. So you know, Mohammed was a
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religious leader in Mecca only make Bebindy converts. He gets confrontational,
they chase him out of town. He's a Muslim refugee.
He goes to a Jewish city called Yatrib or a Medina,
and the Jews let him in as a Muslim immigrant,
and he goes into the minority neighborhood and he begins
to organize a following like a community organizer. And when
his following gets big enough, he gets involved in politics,
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and he and his followers pressured the Jews to accommodate
them politically, and so now Mohammed's elected a political leader
in the city. And then when Mohammed's followers get chased
out of Mecca for disturbing the peace, there's a lot
of Muslim immigrants and they come into this Jewish city
of Medina. Now there's lots of them, and Mohammed allows
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him to rob the caravans headed back to Mecca and
retaliation for the Meccans chasing them out. It's the victimhood.
You're the victim of their intelligce so you can rob
the caravans, you can retaliate, And so Mohammed personally fought
in sixty six battles and raids, killing an estimated three
thousand people. And within five years of Mohammed coming into
this Jewish town as an immigrant, there is not a
Jew left in the town of Medina. They were chased out,
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killed or enslaved. Within fifty years of his death, every
pre existing culture in Arabia is wiped out. Within the
next hundred years, they conquered North Africa, which used to
be Christian. You know, Saint Augustin of Hippo was from Carthage,
today's Tunisia. Egypt used to be Christian evangelized by Mark
that wrote the Gospel. Syria used to be Christian evangelized
by Paul. You know, Turkey used to be the seven
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Churches of the Book of Revelation. And they all get conquered.
And so it's this idea that there's a fourteen hundred
year track record where we can see this immigrant increase
eliminate take place. They come into Europe as immigrants and
then they end up the Europeans have maybe one child
per family and they wait until they're almost forty to
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have it. And the Muslims come in and they can
have four wives and put them each in an apartment,
and then tell them to go down to the welfare
office and get welfare checks. Say the husband's not wrong.
And then the man visits his wives, and the more
children they have, the larger the welfare checks get. Exactly,
living like a mere sultan with his harem, and it's
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all paid for at state expense.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Talk to somebody in Detroit. They described the same thing
happening right here in America.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I was going to say, that's exactly the same thing, Bill.
I was looking at some stats here, how Islam is
colonizing non Muslim countries. Austria in twenty ten population four
undred and seventy five thousand, it's projected that they'll grow
by sixty eight percent in about four years from now
seven hundred and ninety nine thousand. Let's look at France,
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for example, four point seven million in twenty ten, they'll
be up to six point eight million in twenty thirty.
That's a forty six percent growth here, this is pretty
In New Zealand, forty one thousand now grown to one
hundred and one thousand in twenty thirty, one hundred and
forty six percent growth, Ireland forty three to one hundred
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and twenty five hundred and ninety one percent growth. The
United States of America two point five million in twenty ten,
projected to be in twenty thirty six point two million
Muslims growth of one hundred and forty percent. The United
Kingdom that we mentioned earlier start a two point eight
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percent two point eight million in twenty ten. By twenty thirty,
they'll be at five point five million. So to your point,
everybody else's birthrate, of course, we know in America it's unsustainable.
I think last year was one point two per household,
one point two per couple, and meanwhile Muslims are pro
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creating at rates of eight to ten.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah. I had someone explained to me that in Islam
is a social stigma for a woman to have less
than five children, and then they're not supposed to leave
their house without a male relative. Right, So so you
go to Germany and they'll be the Muslim woman and
they'll always have a little boy with them, and because
they have to have a male relative with them when
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they leave the house, right, it's you real law. But
you look at New York and eighty they said, eighty
percent of the women voted for mandami and now there's
immediately calls for sharia law in New York. And so
these women are like, they don't realize that they better
they're going to start having to where the burkas are
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get raped, you think.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
I mean, the every thing I'm thinking, Bill is that
you know, I was talking to my wife about this.
I said, uh, I don't know if I could handle
that screaming sound for the sound to call to prayer
five times a day. When I was in you know,
visiting Jerusalem and you know, we're at the whaling wall,
and all of a sudden I hear the blast of
the call to prayer. It's not a pleasant sound. Barack
(24:53):
Obama said, oh, it's a beautiful sound. I mean, it
was like chuck hitting the chalkboard. My you know, the
hair on the back of my my neck was standing up.
I was so irritating. Well, and.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
That's but that's part of the plan. In ham trammck, Michigan,
they have a Muslim city Council and they voted to
have calls to prayer five times a day. It makes
the non Muslims feel uncomfortable, so they move out, and
that's the goal. Once they move out, they take over
the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, like I said, it's been a consistent progression, and
here we are and look what's going on. George Barne
just reported, you know, to your point in terms of
people's respective of sin, Bill, I mean they're very casual
about sin anymore. I mean the percentages of Christians who
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even you know, consider sin as as a serious offense
to God. I mean it's become very contemporary, very modernistic,
and casual.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah. You know. I wrote a book called Believe, and
in there I go through how God is just. He's
a god of laws, laws of planets, are very emotion,
laws of physics, and and he has laws for human behavior.
It's called being just, which means he has to judge
every sin, every sin, because if he does not judge
usin by default, his silence would be giving consent to
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the sin rule of tested admission. So in a wedding ceremony,
if you're silent, you're giving your consent. And so if
there are sins and God's not judging them, he's denying
his own just nature, and he cannot deny himself. So
his very nature is he has to judge the sin.
Now the Lamb he sent his son to take the
judgment for the sin. So the Lamb is God's way
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to get around his own just nature, so he does
not change his just nature. He's just forever, was is,
and will be just. But he's loving and that he
provides the Lamb, his son to take the judgment for
the sin exactly. So that's how we can approach this
all just God and not half st worry about being
judged because but.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
There are some things built though that God has built
into the system, you know, that are established and in
the design that we are judged when we, you know,
go go outside of the boundaries. For example, there's the
law gravity. Violate the law gravity, you'll find out it's there.
And I believe there's other laws that are built in
that you violate that you know that you know the
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blood of the Lamb in a sense, it's it's there.
But even if you if you don't acknowledge the blood
of the Lamb and you don't want to bend your
knee and surrender yourself to God's provision for sin, you're
still going to realize some judgment in some consequence for
violating God's law. There's some inherent laws that are built
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in and I'm not sure if I'm saying that right
and if you're tracking with me on it, because I
think that, yes, there's some some ultimate judgment that comes
in on major issues, and that's happened from time to time,
you know, with the flood and other times when God
stepped in, you know, to bring the children out of Israel.
There was ten incredible judgments on Egypt and all their gods,
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and there's been examples of that happen in our history.
But there are other I think some other just built
in just and devices, but just foundational principles that are
in the system that if you violate it, you're going
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to realize that God is just and there is judgment
for violating those rules and laws.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Is that fair to say, yeah, you got King David.
He sinds with Beshiba, has her husband Yuryah killed. The
prophet Nathan comes to him, says, thou art the man.
David repents. God says, I'll forgive you, but you're going
to have the repercussions of turmoil in your own household,
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and sure enough he said that you slept with Besheban secret. Well,
guess what, somebody's going to come after you and they're
going to sleep with all your wife in the open.
And that's what happened to Abslom set up a tent.
You're right, I had you know anyway, you you have
these within his own household. David had his oldest son, Amnon,
rape a daughter, Tamars murdered by the son. You know,
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Evslam tries to overthrow David at and I just tries
to overthrow David. So yes, God forgave him, but he
had these repercussions. So so you know, we we do.
God does forgive us, but sometimes there are things that
that you can't undo. I mean, you can't unkill somebody,
right if you can't, uh, and so so it's it's
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this serious thing. But we thank God for the Gospel.
But as George Mason said, as nations cannot be rewarded
to punish in the next world, they must be in
this so God can forgive us and save us individually,
but still judge the nation. It's like Jeremiah the prophet.
God spared him, but he did judge Jerusalem. So but
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you know, if you're under judgment, it's like magnets, and
you turn the magnet and it instantly goes from attracting
the judgment to repelling the judgment and then attracting God's blessings.
So and Jeremiah says, if I pronounce to a nation
judgment and the nation repents, I won't judge him. But
if I pronounce blessings and they continue to say, well guess
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what I'll change, I'll judge them. God loves us, but
the little copyat there is he loves us so much
he's jealous if he loves something else more than him.
And so we have to realize that here, the creator
of the universe is jealous for our thoughts and our attention.
And so that's why we read his word, and that
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why we seek him. We don't do it out of
a fear. We do it out of love. But he
loves us, and he wants to love him. He wants
to love us back. And of course it's his love first.
It's the love of God that brings ment repentance. While
we were yet sinners, Christ died for us, so he
was the initiator. We respond to it and.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Anyway, well, Billy, I think it's you know, we're in
a situation where as the country continues to become more
and more secular, and as you say, we get the
Stranger coming into our land and taking over now the
biggest city in our country. This, this is, this is
a terrible omen. I mean, this should be something a
wake up call, especially for people of faith. You know,
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we have you know, we can be thankful for Charlie
Kirk and his efforts and his sacrifices martyrdom and what
it's done for the younger generation. In terms of potentially igniting, well,
I would say it's beyond potential. I mean it's definitely igniting.
I say, bonfires of revival. We have, you know, young
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kids coming to Jesus, and in record numbers right now
the Bible. I think, what last month, It's always been
the number one selling book, but increase in sales forty
seven percent. Bill Yeah, so you know, so there is
I think some you say, some curiosity. I pray that
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you know, the Holy Spirit, just like in Genesis, hovers
over the void, the darkness, that the Holy Spirit is
faithfully hovering over the darkness of the young people and
the confusion of these young people and bringing the truth
to them in such a way and giving them direction obviously.
I mean they're looking to the word of God, and
I pray that their young minds would be enlightened and
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they would be able to receive what God is telling
them right now. And you know that this is more
than just a you know, a fad or just a
minor movement, that this is so incredible that we're able
to realize a true awakening like we've had in previous
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revivals in our country. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I had somebody explain that they foresaw that this next
year is going to be one of extreme You're going
to have the people on the left be more vile
and more vicious and more out in the open Satanism right.
And then on the other side you're going to be
people more excited for Jesus. I mean, they've had one
hundred and sixty thousand requests for Turning Point chapters since
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Charlie's death. I mean, we're seeing this revival and it's
almost like God saying, Okay, we're getting close to the
end times. I don't know when it's going to be.
I sort of think it's like a GPS on your phone.
We're going to get to the destination of the Book
of Revelation. If you repent, it can take the long route.
You don't repent, it can take the direct route. Right.
But at God's saying, okay, we're getting closer to the end,
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and you're a free will creature. I'm not force you,
but I need you to hurry up and make your decision.
So I'm going to make it really clear. I'm going
to pull back the curtain like the end of The
Wizard of Oz. You see the dog pulls back the garden,
and as an old man in a microphone, you're not
afraid of him anymore. But it's like, okay, God, devil,
choose right. And some people are going to choose the
all others right. So I go the wedding, you know,
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forsaking of all others and choosing the one. Some people
are going to choose the all others right. They're gonna
want to be liked and friended and followed so much,
and they're going to be so fearful of somebody posting
something negative about them on the Internet and blocking and
canceling and unfriending them, and they're like, okay, oh, cave.
I'll believe whatever you tell me to believe. I just
want you to like me. And there's like, you know,
it's a moving goalpost. If you draw your self esteem
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from being accepted by people, it's going to continue to
move like a log in a river headed toward a
waterfall until it gets to the end and it's finally
going to be okay to be accepted by the group.
You got to accept satan.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
And it's like, and I remember being with Charlie Kirkane.
He says, I'm sorry, I don't tolerate satan. Well, you're intolerant.
He goes, that's right, I don't tolerate draw the line here.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Right, Yeah, you have to know, you have to know
the difference. And it's just like, you know, I've always
used this analogy Bill in talking to our audience in
the show, is that bank tellers, for example, how they
can acknowledge and recognize legitimate money. You know, they don't
study counterfeit. They study the legitimate. And I think we
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can learn from that and understanding that we must study
the legitimate when it comes to the spiritual and not
the counterfeit. And people are lord, you know, Tuiji boards
some mystic things that detract them from the truth of God.
And they will be they will be the ones who
will be fooled that will come to Jesus on that
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day and say, but Lord, I you know, I cast
you know, demons out in your name. I served you
in this way and that way. And Jesus is going
to say, you know, get away from me. I don't
even know you. And and I mean just the mere
thought that God would say that, it just, you know,
it really, it scares me enough. It scares the hell
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out of me. I guess I just say, if I
can put it in those.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Terms, Yeah, you know, you said, I know you, and
I thought. I did a book on the history of Islam.
It's called What Every American Needs Know About the Quran,
a History of Islam in the United States. And there's
no concept in Islam of knowing Allah. Allah is unknowable.
He is forever unknowable. Even the next life, you'll never
meet Allah. He's forever unknowable. But you can trust that
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with Christianity, and Jesus said, and this is eternal life,
that they may know you the only true God and
Jesus Christ from you have sin right. And the idea
is that God wants us to have a relationship.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
With him exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
And that's so you I was thinking of what makes
a stranger into a friend a relationship, right, there's that,
you know, David Nathan the prophet said, Okay, there's this
guy with a thousand sheep, and this one guy just
has one little sheep and he raises it like a
daughter and feeds it from his table and hugs it.
And then the rich guy has a visitor and he
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wants to feed him, so he takes the one guy's
one little sheep and kills it and serves at his food.
And David said, who is that man? I'll kill him?
And of course Nathan says, now, arn't the man because
you took you know, your eye of his wife. But
why was David so upset? They're all just sheep. This
man had a relationship with it. It's the relationship that
adds value exactly, right. So what makes us valuable to
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God is a relationship.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
He created us for fellowship, He created us for a relationship.
And if you're not going to bother wanting to know
God in this life, what makes you think you're going
to want to know him in the next life. But
if you want to have a relationship with him now,
that relationship makes you valuable to him.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Exactly. Yeah, well said Bill. And you know, going back
to what you were, I know what I wanted to
say is that here. Recently, I was talking to some
men and they said, well, you know, the Muslims say
that they worship the same God as Abraham. And I said,
that's a big lie. And they were kind of shocked.
They go, well, yeah, I mean it's Old Testament, it's
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Abraham's God. I said, no, because they don't. They don't
believe in Almighty God the way the Christians do, the
way the Bible says. I said, just go to Genesis one,
the first verse. This is in the beginning God. They
don't believe in the triing in God, so they can't
believe in the same God that Abraham believed in because
Ilohem his Father's son in Holy Spirit. They don't believe
(38:12):
in Jesus. They don't believe in the Holy Spirit, So
how could they believe in the same God.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
You know, I in my book whatever American needs to
know about the Crown, I have a comparison to Jesus
and Mohammad. Why well, people say, well, you know, yeah,
Muslims kill people, but Christians kill people. I mean, in
the Middle Ages, popes had armies. It's like, let's not
compare the followers. Let's compare the Founders. The largest in
the religion in the world's Christianity thirty three percent. The
second largest religion in the world is isl I'm twenty
(38:37):
two percent. And let's compare the Founders the two largest
religions in the world. Jesus never killed anybody. Mohammad killed
an estimated three thousand people. Jesus never owned slaves. Mohammad
owned slaves. He was a white Arab and he owned
black slaves. Jesus never married Mohammed anywhere from eleven to
twenty two wives as young at Aisha was nine years
old when it was consummated. Jesus never tortured anybody. Mohammad
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stretched the chief of Kaibar out on the ground, kindle
a fire on his chest because he wouldn't tell where
the treasure was hidden. Jesus forgave insults right there, crucifying Father,
forgive them. Well, Mohammad avenged insults. When he comes into Mecca.
A guy had made up poems making fun of Mohammed
had his two slave girls reciting the poems. Mohammad was
insulted by the poem, so he orders a murdered. Jesus
(39:26):
did not allow his disciples to rape anyone Duh Mohammad did,
and there's always Haddees that talk about it. None of
the apostles were governors or generals. Every one of the
caliefhs was a governor in a general. Jesus taught God
was our father. In islamis blasphemy to call Allah your father.
Jesus thought were made in the image of God, and
(39:46):
Islam Allah has no image. Jesus thought to have a
personal relationship with God, and islamas blast me to have
a personal relationship with Alah. Jesus said, he go to
a town, present the gospel. If they don't receive you,
chake the dust and leave. Mohama, go to a town
they don't receive you, wage war on the town. The
first three centuries of Christianity, there are ten major persecutions
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of Christians. They're thrown to the lions and they never
once let an armed resistance. First three centuries of Islam,
they conquer from Arabia to Paris. They're stopped outside of
Paris at the Battle of Tours. And so we see
that one is voluntary and the other is involuntary. A
friend of mine has a ministry to Muslims, and he
says that the one verse that he's found is the
(40:29):
most effective in witnessing is Isaiah. I think it's sixty one,
where it says, the Spirit of Law is upon me
because he is annoyed to me, to preach the gospel
to the poor, to set the captives free, recovery aside
to the blind, and to heal the broken hearted. And
of course the same verse that Jesus read, Jesus said
(40:49):
that regarding himself, if the spirit lawd was the department
of Jesus. But at that line to heal the broken hearted,
there's no concept in all of Islam that all wants
to heal your broken heart. Allah could care less about
your broken heart. He wants submission exactly. And so when you,
when you witness to a Muslims, say God, God cares
about your broken he cares about the struggles you're going through,
(41:13):
they have no They'll argue all day long about the
other stuff, but they can't argue on that because bypasses
the mind and it goes right to the heart. Wow.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's I'll tell you this is again. God is faithful,
and Muslims like Christians, like people who claim to be
agnostic and atheists. You know, he created, He created us all,
and he wants us all home with him. Bill, in
spite of all this, as you said, he's a forgiving god,
so much so that he sent his son and to
(41:43):
put him through all that he had to go through
the sacrifice that's so unbearable. And you know, I was
looking at the cross the other day. I was in Mass,
and I'm looking at the cross and you see it
and it's you know, it's kind of the cleaned up
body of Jesus hanging there from the cross, and I'm going,
that's such a poor because you think about it at Calvary,
when Jesus was on the cross, he was so disfigured.
(42:05):
It just had to look just like a just a
carved up piece of humanity, you know, in skin, just
hanging off of him from all the scourging and everything
that went through. And I just pondered on that, and
it crushed me Bill to think, you know, okay, you know,
we look at a cleaned up version of it. But
in reality, all that Jesus went through so that we
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would be back where God always wanted us. And that's
with him communing. Going back to what you said earlier,
having that relationship with the Father.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah, you know, I was thinking of a canaan Abel
Cain wanted to worship God. But he did it through
his works. And we know it works because God told Adam,
the ground has cursed for your sake, and you'll bring
forth fruit by the sweat of your brow. So what
his work? So Kine's trying to work his way to happen.
But did God accept Kine's works? No, and Able trusted
in the lamb. And it's this picture that God's on
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one side. I'm on the other side. My sins separate
me from God, and the lamb takes the judgment for
the sin in my place. And so Abraham offered lambs.
No offered lambs. When he got off the arc right,
he had two of every animal, but seven pair every
clean animal. Moses had every family kill a lamb with
the blood over the door post of the house. The
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high priest brought the blood of the lamb into the
holy holies Solomon had a thousand of them sacrificed when
he dedicated the temple. Finally, John the Baptist points at
Jesus and says, behold the Lamb of God, who take
it away the sins of the world. So God's on
one side, we're on the other side, our sin separated
from God. And the Lamb took the judgment for all
the sins, and so then we're restored to fellowship with God.
And it's not based on us being good enough. It's
(43:40):
based on the Lamb being good enough to take the
judgment in our place.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Right exactly. Yeah, there we are back to focusing on
the legitimate versus the counterfeit. Right, And ever since Jesus
came on the scene, even before, there were all kinds
of counterfeits, and we've been warned about the counterfeits that
are there. But meanwhile, as you had mentioned earlier, or
you know, all this is happening side by side, like
(44:03):
you said, and I thought it was interesting because here
we are and you said that. Somebody said that next
year you're going to have this demarcation of really what
it comes down to is good and evil, and you're
going to have revival taking place on one hand, and
then you're going to have satanism, an increasing amount of
display of satanism and hedonism, and that that's taking place.
(44:26):
And I when I asked got about this, he just said,
wheats and terrors. You know, the wheats and terrors are
growing at the same time, and that's and we need
to be careful that we don't fall into the terrors,
that we maintain a wheat mindset, so to speak. Right.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
Yeah, I talked to somebody and they said that they
were in some city and they ran into this woman.
She goes, I'm a Wiccan missionary from London to America
and we go down to the city park every Saturda night.
We put hexes on people and it's like, you know
here they are coming here. And so it's one of choices.
And I think God is going to have some people
(45:08):
right for thinking of all others and choosing the one.
Some people are going to choose the all others, but
I think there's going to be more and more people
choosing the one, and I'm going to see more and more.
I just I'm here in Fort Worth, Texas, uh speaking
at a college, and a young man I just visited
with said he's from a missionary family in Indonesia, and
(45:29):
he says, Muslims are coming to Christ. He says in Iran.
He says, there's thousands and thousands of them, and they're
having dreams about Jesus. And so I think God is
pushing the world to a decision making moment, right, and
this is our turn to say, you know, I mean,
think of it. He said, well, God knows my heart. Well, yeah,
(45:50):
he knew Abraham's heart, but he still wanted to see
Abraham do something, take a son out to the top
of Mount Mariah. And it's like, how would that play
out with with your wife? Imagine a guy watching football
and you say, when was the last time you told
your wife your lover? He's like, I can't remember, but
she knows my heart. It's like, okay, right, one was
the last time you did anything to show your wife
your lover? He's like, I can't remember, but she knows
(46:11):
my heart. It's like, dude, we need to have a
little marriage counseling. He was like, God knowes my heart. Yes,
he does. He knows it really well, and he wants
to hear some words out of your mouth and actions
so that you show on the outside in this physical
world through your words and actions, what you really really
believe on the inside. Exactly, there's no words and actions,
(46:31):
maybe there's no real belief on the inside.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah. Well, Bill, you know, we're celebrating today, and thank
you so much for you know, spending time with us
and going to walk down history talking about these issues
of the spirit that are so critical in these times
that we live in today. And I kind of want
to wrap this up with one of our favorite poems
for Veteran's Day. I love this poem says, it is
(46:56):
the soldier, not the minister, who has given us freedom
of religion. It is the soldier, not the reporter, who
has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier,
not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.
It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has
given us freedom to protest. It is the soldier, not
the lawyer, who has given us the right to a
(47:18):
fair trial. It is the soldier, not the politician, who
has given us the right to vote. It is the
soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag, who allows
the protester to burn the flag. I just I love that.
I love that poem and it always brings me to
(47:42):
a level of emotion that in light of Veterans Day,
we have so much to be thankful for in this
great country that we're blessed. And as long as we
continue to trust in God and believe and yield to
God's will, God will continue to bless our nation and
(48:02):
we will be able to realize this repentance and revival
that you and I've been talking about. Bill, we got
about thirty seconds left. I'll let you wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go ahead, Yeah. Yeah. Years ago Rhys Lloyd had me
at an American Legion event in the out California. But
you know, the American Legion nineteen fifty four had a
back to God program, and Eisenhower addressed him as a
former soldier. I'm delighted our veterans of sponsoring movement to
increase our awareness of God. In battle, they learned a
great truth. There's no atheist in the foxholes. And then
he goes on to say that we should remember the
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father of our country, Washington. And then he, of course
Eyesenow is the one to put in God. We trust
on our paper currency, and then under God in the
pledge of allegiance.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Exactly well, Bill Fetter, the American Minute creator, how can
people subscribe to the American Minute and be in touch
with you?
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Oh? Thank you. It's Americanminute dot com.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Americanminute dot com, Bill Fetter, thank you so much for
being with this. Take care, God bless my friend.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Thank you, Bill
Speaker 2 (49:15):
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