September 22, 2025 • 51 mins
The geologist and the Executive Director of the CO2 Coalition talks about his latest book, A Very Convenient Warming. You'll learn the enormous benefits that are accruing to humanity from modest warming and increasing carbon dioxide. By nearly every metric, Earth's ecosystems are thriving, and the human condition is improving. This is entirely contrary to the claims of a climate crisis and looming disaster around every corner proclaimed by the Climate Industrial Complex.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know, ever since Al Gore came out with the
inconvenient truth or the convenient truth of a way inconvenient
truth right, and got all this you know, lawed and
praise and created a whole new industry, the climate industrial complex,
it's like we've been deluged with anti science and which
is kind of you know the theme of so much
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of our government.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, who do we trust? What can we trust?
And when it comes to climate, then you realize was
you go and you pull back the curtain on these
climate scientists and realize, you know, like the old saying,
just follow the money and you realize that they're making
statements because that's what they're paid to do. They've really
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sold themselves out at the detriment of we, the people
here in America, and not only here in America but
around the world. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Along the way, Gosh, Gregory Rightstone came into my orbit,
and he and I have been in constant discussion over
the years, I think probably like about fifteen years, it seems.
And Gregory is a geologist and executive director of the
CO two Coalition in Arlington, Virginia. Is best selling author
of A Very Convenient Warming, How Modest Warming and more
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CO two Are Benefiting Humanity. He's also written other books,
and we're going to talk about that as well. But
right now I want to bring on Gregory Rightstone on
the show. Gregory, great to have you with us. How
are you?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh good? Really really busy though, I got to tell you,
and it's good. I'm not complaining. We're being we being
the CO two Coalision or are deep in the midst
of pushing back and being very successful about promoting the
true science and the facts about climate change and the
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benefits of warming and more CO two and I couldn't
be pumped it's our people, and our members are proud
of what we're doing and thanks to people like you,
Bill for helping us get our message out well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Gregory, everything about our show is about in the pursuit
of truth, as you know, no matter where it leads.
And this is why you and I came together, because
you know, I realized early on the folk science that
was butten was put upon us, you know, just like
what we went through in COVID. And this has all
been a culmination of this which whis you know, been injurious.
It's just science. I mean, we need science to ask
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questions and be allowed to ask questions and not to
be bought and sold and start presenting a bunch of
propaganda that causes us to spend trillions of dollars. And
then also, as if that's not enough, let's just assume
a bunch of guilt and be liable for third world
countries to help them get out of their climate prices.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right it is. And I'm just last week I gave
a lecture to the Irish Science Climate Foundation and you
pardon me, no one came on suddenly, but I gave
a talk. The title was using scientific or science and
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the scientific method just to fight climate change disinformation by
scientific societies, government institutions and the People Advisory Committee. And
it was it was it really was an analysis of
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everything we're doing and fighting this particularly today is the
is the last day to submit comments for the EPA
Endangerment Finding, and we might want to just talk a
little bit about what that is. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah.
So in two thousand and nine, the EPA under Obama
UH set of regulation controlling emissions from vehicles like duty
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trucks of CO two emissions and they decided that and
claimed that CO two carbon dioxide was harmful to human
health and by that they could regulate it, and boy
have they. And it's just it's called the endangerment finding
because CO two is endangering American's health. Well it's nothing
could be further from the truth. It's a huge benefit.
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But they didn't look at any of those, any of
the positive aspects, and they looked at completely fabric caid
made up climate crises linked to the day link to
CO two. And so we've already filed one comment on Friday.
It was based on a paper we've just revised by
Wes Allen from Australia. Climate change in human health cataloging.
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Now health has been improved and significantly not declining. I'll
be filing a second comment later today, and what we're
going to do is in this we're pushing back against
this notion of CO two driven calamities, crises, and harms
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to human health. So we've been busy doing that and
we've got our senior legal advisor leading the legal analysis
and what we've done too, what he's done is they
were in twenty twenty four last year in June, there
were two really important Supreme Court visions. The first one
was the it overturned the what's called Chevron deference right,
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which is where if there's if it's to the court
and they're reviewing whether a regulation could be appealed or
or enacted, that they give deference to the regulatory agencies
because those regulatory agencies, they say, are they should be
the experts. They should, but they're not. And the regulatory
agencies is given or given difference because they should have
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looked at everything, but they haven't. And they recognize that,
and they removed that deference for the regulatory agencies. The second, uh.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Supreme second, let me I mean positive for just second,
I want I want the audience to catch that the
fact that the Supreme Court ruled on that, to me,
that's just a huge red flag saying, you know, here
we've yielded under under the Chevron Act, We've yielded to
these regulatory agencies, and now we're looking at the results
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and saying we're not getting the value that we anticipated
from that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And they've overstepped, have they not? Yeah? Well, actually what
they said was that the regulatory agencies did not look
at all of the pertinent informations, They did not review
the materials, and in some cases outright line to the courts,
they presented false and misleading information, disinformation, misinformation. Uh. And
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it's been it's worth the American public the results. But
right the day, actually the day before that ruling was
another one called Ohio versus EPA. And then if they
they looked at what we call the State Farm Defense,
and then that the Supreme Court said that regulatory agencies
have to look at all of the data anything that's
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raised when when they when regulatory agencies like EPA or
Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, whenever they propose regulation,
they propose it. And then there's a period of a
couple of months, maybe six weeks, where people can comment
on it. And this ruling in the State Farm they
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said that these regulatory agencies need to consider all pertinent data.
Any of the comments that have that are made with relevant,
significant information or a significant line of thought, the agency
needs to consider that. Well, they never did. They only
looked at any information that helped their case and never
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presented or looked at things that were posed to them.
And here they say, you have to and this is
really important for us in our comments again, particularly the
comment I'm filing today on this endangerment finding uses that
State Farm defense where we're going through and we're saying,
if you imposed a law or a regulation in this
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case and didn't consider everything, it's on its face unlawful.
It needs to be it needs to be repealed. And
so that's that's the gist of our our filing that
we'll make later today.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And the thing that's so frustrating about that great ground strying.
You know, I just again, I'm I'm listening as our
audience is listening on this, and they're probably getting frustrated
and saying, wait a minute, you know we're being sold
you know, a bucket of goods here. And meanwhile, by
the time this goes through the process, you know, we're
four or five years down the road. We've been told
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all these lies. How do you remedy you know, all
the lies and the cost to the American tax payer
where you've got regulators doing things that now you know,
five years later are determined to be unlawful.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, and think about this. Let mean, let's let's think
about all of your listeners or viewers right now. You're
probably sitting in the comfort of your own home, maybe
your office, when you're when you're looking at this, look
around you. Every appliance, every everything using electricity or hot
water has now been have significant regulations imposed on it
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because of this endangerment finding and other rules like it.
And they look above you. Your ceiling fan above you
has been regulated. Last year, your dishwasher, your washing machine,
you're dryer, you name, Incandescent light bulbs were banned. And
so what the government's done is say, well, we're going
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to impose these regulations, let's say, on dishwashers and dishwashers today.
When you buy a modern dishwasher today, you can't buy
a really good dishwasher by that, I mean one that
can get the washer dishes washed in thirty minutes. Today's
dishwashers go anywhere from two and a half to four
hours per cycle. And it's because they're very low energy
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and it's very low water. It just takes a long time.
And what we find too these because it's low energy,
they're using smaller motors that burn out. They've asked these
small motors of being asked to do more, so they
burn out and need replaced more often. And so what
they say is, this is a high efficiency dishwasher and
it's best for you because you're gonna you're gonna save money,
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use less electricity, less water. Well bill their different definition,
the government's definition of efficient efficient dishwashers a lot different
than my wife's. My wife her definition of an efficient
dishwasher is one that would get it done in thirty
or forty minutes or less and the dishes are clean.
And you can't buy those today. The government's saying you're
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only allowed to buy what we have approved in which
is government a fruit dishwasher or all of these other things.
They're telling you what you can drive, or they've been
trying to what you can drive how to heat your
home with temperature to heat or cool your home, or
it's just it's crazy. The overreach of these regulatory agencies. Well,
this is an infringement, infringement on our on our freedom.
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It is. And when I when I tell you to
bear with me, when I'm pro choice, I'm strongly pro choice.
And by that I mean your viewers and listeners should
have the choice of what to buy, what kind of dishwasher,
washing machine, you name it. Uh, they should have the
choice to be able to buy a shower head that
doesn't have a flow restrictor, so the water just dribbles out.
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I bought a new I bought a new shower head
when I moved into my new home. Uh, and it
just it was it was a dual head. My son
in law came down, he said, let me look on that,
and there were three flow restrictors on that deck on thing.
He knocked them. He knocked them out. Man, the water
comes out like Niagara falls. Now it's a wonderful shower.
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And you know, things like that. They want to they
have to control every aspect of our lives. We've had
our freedom systematically taken away from us. And just we're
just willing sheep going along with it. Well, no more,
no more, We're going to rise up. We're going to
do it. And it's all really came to a head
on January twentieth with the inauguration of Donald Trump when
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he brought in his his people at Energy, at Interior,
at E p A and others lee Zelden, Chris Wright,
Doug Burgham. They're they're pulling back on this and they're
going great guns. So kudos kudos to them. I talked
with Steve Coonan not too long ago, who's the author
of I'm struggling to think of his book. I'm sure
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you know it. It's but he and Will Happer and
I were He said, you know, felt felt feels like
we've had a strong headwind. We were facing strong headwinds
in our in our battle and uh and he says,
now feels like the winds at our back. And so uh,
it's it's a wonderful thing and we're moving forward. We're
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going to the name of his book is going to
gets back behind me. I know, it's almost it's not
it's not unsettled, right, it is. It might be the
second best book on her third best book on climate
change that's been written in the last fifteen years. Of
course number one would be inconvenient facts. Number two a
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very convenient warming and then probably unsettled. But I'm biased.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Who knows well, You've been fighting the battle out there,
you know, for it seems decades, and thank god, you know,
because you know, there had to be some pushback because unfortunately,
you know, with these progressive governments, so Obama Biden continued
to course the course there and you know, we have
been lied to and somehow, yeah, you know, again indoctrinated
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on this misinformation regarding climate and you know, thank god
for you know, groups like yours and what the CO
two Coalition has been doing in bringing the facts against
this misinformation.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Greg Ry. Yeah, and we're seeing some real results. We
see it every day. We're when I talk, when I
talk to regular people that nobody's in its affiliated with
and just regular Joe and Jane, the guy or Gala
sitting next to me on the on an airplane that's
trapped next to me for two and a half hours,
you know, but they're there. They're thirsty for this information
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we can bring into them. And I think people are
really open and we're going to find out more. We're
We've created two sixty second ads that just finished. I'm
just starting fundraising for those. I want to try and
like to find someone, a well heeled individual that that's
willing to recognize the power of a national ad campaign
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showing these wonderful sixty second ads. I want to run
it on broadcast TV streaming services and get this information
out there that people most people don't know that increase
in carbon dioxide and modest warming or are having great
benefits to crop production, increases azards or shrinking forests, or
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expanding vegetations, increasing lifespans, are expanding, lengthening crop The growing
season for crops has increased nearly two weeks since nineteen hundred.
These are all great things, exactly. We need people to
understand what this is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, you got to make sure you get those ads
to me. I'd like to have them and I'll run
them on our show.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, we'reposure here. Yeah, I can't do it yet.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't know when it's ready because again, it goes
hand in glove with what we're about in terms of
you know, getting the truth out there. You know, I
think it's quite interesting because when I observe you know
what's happening in the culture and how people when they
bring up a climate change, it's not being brought up,
you know, with such passion as it was even you know,
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five years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now they're running away from it. They're running away from it.
They're big funding sources are going on. Wind and solar
facilities are big, defunded right and left. Every seems like
every day there's another either ev manufacturer that's folded up.
We hear of one car manufacturer after another pulling out
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and not and not even going forward with their planned
electric car development, wind turbine development offshore, particularly the Vineyard,
when we're still fighting the one in offshore Virginia that's
funded and pushed hard by Dominion Energy. Dominion Energy wants
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it is there a utility, right, and they don't care.
They don't care what their costs are because they're guaranteed,
they're guaranteed to fixed percent income and so actually the
more money they spend, the more money they make, which
is completely ludicrous. People don't know that. So we're seeing
it too across America, people pushing back against carbon dioxide pipeline.
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They've got this crazy notion of carbon capture and sequestration
where they're at. They're going to spend huge, huge, huge
amounts of money to capture CO two from the atmosphere
and then truck not truck it move it through pipelines
across America's heartland to be pumped down. Wells, it's the
removing a beneficial molecule at high cost. It's actually going
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to be harmful to our environment, not benefits. What's what's
where's the science on that? Well, they can do it.
It's there are ways to capture CO two.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, no, but I mean in terms of the benefit.
I mean because anything mostly that goes along with the
you know environment, you got to do all these environmental
studies and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Where are those studies to support that? No, you don't.
That's only if you're an oil and gas or coal company,
if you're one of these renewables, if you're associated weight
with renewables, we don't worry about that. Report saw that
in the Vineyard Wind where Donald Trump Doug Burgham shut
them down because they hadn't fulfilled all the required investigations
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and they were being left going ahead to build it.
And so this, for example, let's say we're going to
capture carbon from a coal fired electricity generation plant to
install that material. The carbon capture costs about a billion
just let under a billion dollars for each plant. It
would the goal, of course, is to remove CO two
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from the atmosphere, and what it does is energy intensive,
so it cost a billion dollars and it would require
twenty four percent of the energy that's produced from that
plant to run the capture to get to do that,
and it's so wrong on so many levels. And then
they've got to build this infrastructure to pipe the CO
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two to wherever they're going to pump it down underground,
hoping it to doesn't go out to the surface. And
one of the problems with CO two and steel is
that it makes steel brittle, so it's more likely to rupture,
which is you know CO two is again it's not
a pollutant, but it can in high, very high concentrations
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of tens of thousands of parts per million, it can
actually you don't you're not able to get enough oxygen.
You actually you die from as asphyxy or whatever from
lack of oxygen. And then we see that with in
USDA particularly has stringent regulations because they use dry ice
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for a lot of their cooling for food and dry ice.
What is dry ice, you might ask, frozen and carbon dioxide.
And so as dry ice warms up, its sublimates, so
it doesn't go from CO two to a CO two liquid.
It goes directly from a solid which is dry ice,
to the gaseous form of CO two. And if you're
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an enclosed area working on green beans or poultry or whatever,
and this dry ice can accumulate to very high levels quickly,
and so they have to have warnings and things like that.
So the USDA in particular has looked at this, but
again we're nowhere near We're four hundred parts per million now,
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according to OSHA, we can safely have up to six
or eight thousand parts per million in the workplace environment,
which is twenty times what it is today. Right, let
me ask you this. You know, in terms of their
desire to get CO two out of the environment, is
that even possible. No, they can try to remove and
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they can remove a little bit of it, but it's
it would have to be a massive, massive amount of
the tens of trillions of dollars. But what they are
doing is there's actually discussions now about geoengineering putting salt
sulfates into the atmosphere, Uh, to block to block the sun. Well,
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we were doing that with coal fired power plants for free.
The cold fire power plants are putting the sulfur. Uh,
it's a sulfured inside into the atmosphere. Remember acid rain,
that was all Yeah, that was a real thing, and
we've cleaned it up. We've prevented it from going into
the atmosphere from cold fire plant power plants at great cost.
And now they want to do it intentionally. So uh,
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they're making acid rain great again.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I guess, I guess. Yeah, that's just that's just insane.
And uh, on your on your book. Now, let's talk
about a very convenient warming that people are talking about. Uh,
and it's it's more what you've been sharing with us.
But uh, you know, just a I guess is a
giving us a better understanding of all these things that
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we've been light about. And what we're finding out is
the things we've been light about really are the beneficial
aspects of our environment.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah. Just like my first book, which was Inconvenient Facts,
I'm I wrote both of these for the for the
non scientist. I've so many people have told me what
a what a wonderful read it is. I picked it
up and hardly put it down. It was really entertaining,
well written, informative, well researched. I've got great charts throughout
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the easily understandable, and so I dive into one of
my favorite subjects is the strong relationship between human history
and climate history. And so the book is divided into
three sections parts. First number one is what's actually going
on with CO two and temperature that and the second
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part is this section on human history, and we find
that going back to the first great civilizations that arose
during what was called the minot and warm period. It
was the Bronze Age. It was a time of much
much warmer temperatures than today. Life was good. All the
first great empires and civilizations rose up, the Hittites, the Babylonians,
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the Assyrians, the Haropan Empire, and the Indus River Valley.
These all grew up. Food was bountiful. Life was good.
And then it started getting cold, and within a very
short period of time, all of those empires collapsed because
along with the cold came rop failure, famine, pestilence, and
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masty population, and and that led to what was called
the Greek Dark Ages. It was called the Dark Ages
because we really don't know a whole lot about it,
because with the failure of these empires, not many of
the scholars survived that were writing down histories, and so
it's a dark period of human history. And it didn't
get better to the Roman warm period of the time
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of Christ. And then at the end of that we
saw again cold rop failing, famine, pestilence, masty populace, led
to the Dark Ages, and then the most recent warming
period again it's warmer than today, was a Medieval warm
period which lasted until it started getting really cold, which
led to the Little Ice Age, which was probably the
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coldest period of the last ten thousand years, and life
was really bad during that time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Is this a natural cycle of the earth that it
goes through where you get warming and cooling. That just
it's just the way God designed it to operate this way,
It appears to be the last several have been separated
on about a thousand year cycles, because the Roman warm
Medieval warm period was about a thousand years ago. It
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was around around eight fifty to twelve fifty AD. And
of course the Roman warm period was the year zero
around there several centuries, so it's about a thousand year
cycle between warm periods and the warm period that we're
in today. Again, think of all the great things that
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are associated with us since we started warming coming out
of this little ice age. Just tremendous benefits that are
crude and so what we're seeing too. And then the
third section of the book is associated with the cover
of the book.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You showed it. There's a I've got a woman with
her arms raised standing in field of sunflowers, just joyous,
and it's reflective of just that we should celebrate the benefits.
It's the first book I wrote again Inconvenient Facts, was
I explored that there is no I've proved conclusively with
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lots of work that there is no climate crisis. But
we've gone beyond that now that not only is there
not a climate crisis, but in fact, man by almost
every metric we look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering,
and humanity is benefiting from the combination of warming and
our co two. It's it's there's no doubt about it.
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The best metric would be would be vegetative growth. It's
called the greening of the Earth. We're seeing that from
the near polar regions to the equator, every ecological niche
has huge increases in vegetation. And one of the things
we can see what's going on. We have really good records.
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We can figure out what our emissions are of CO
two into the atmosphere, and it's mainly the burning of
fossil fuels. And we look at that only half of
our emissions are showing up in the atmosphere. We're emitting it,
but only half show up. What's happening to the other half.
The other half is going into nature. Most of it's
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being consumed by increased photosynthesis, right, And it's so the earth.
You know, plants are loving it. Yeah, exactly, they are
loving it. And if plants could have a vote, they
be waving their little forearms going more z too, more
me yes, exactly. And we're seeing too that. Uh. For example,
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boreal forests in Canada because of the warming. Doctor Timball
documented that boreal forests in Canada, Canada moved one hundred
kilometers northward over the last one hundred years because of
the warming. And so we've got northern northern latitudes are
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seeing increased vegetation move. You know, it's moving further north
than the latitudes. The altitudes are moving higher on the
mountain side of higher altitudes. So you'll have to forgive
me apologies to Jimmy Buffett, but it's it's changes changes
in latitudes and changes in altitudes.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Right, well, but eventually and eventually it would change your
attitude is things, you know, But yes, exactly, that's why
I moved here.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's why I moved to Florid.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I work out on my lunai. I love that working outside,
and so it's it's a wonderful environment here, and warm
is good. People like warm. We're creatures of a warm environment.
But because of our use of fossil fuels and other things,
we're able to populate just about every except for the
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extreme polar and antarctic. We can occupy and survive and
thrive in just about every environment.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, and what you're showing here is that, as your
book says, you know, global warming is saving lives. It's
not creating this chaos that some of these mad scientists.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Would want us to believe. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
These climate hustlers, right, that's why I call them, because
you know, it's like look at have an opinion, but
you know, I would hope that you would have an
opinion that would serve the American people, serve the world,
because right now, I mean, you've got the world terribly confused.
The United Nations isn't helping us out. You know, World
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Economic Forum continues on with their debt, you know, disastrous agenda,
which has nothing to do for the betterment of the
population as far as I can.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Tell exactly, And you're right, global warming saves lives. And
when we say that people's heads explode, you can't say that, well,
yeah I can. I can back it up with documentation.
The largest study of its kind looking at mortality related
to temperatures. Temperature related mortality was doctor Antonio Gasparini and
a team of physicians. They looked at seventy four million
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temperature related deaths and found that twenty times as many
people die from cold as from heat, which is most
people don't know that the thing is just the opposite
twenty times. A recent study was published in the Journal
of the Lancet and you could tell the authors or
they weren't happy with the results of their study. Their
(31:00):
study they found that ten times as many people die
from cold as from heat, and looking at it, they
only mentioned that one time. Every time afterwards they called
cold related mortality non optimal temperatures non optimal temperatures, which,
not knowing anything else, you would think, oh, that's probably
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heat related deaths, but it's cold related death And in
fact they had a chart in the book and I
capture that in my book. The x axis for heat
related deaths was zero to the two fifty and the
cold related deaths was zero to fifties. But the chart
that they showed falsely expanded heat related deaths by five times.
(31:44):
And it was this is just the type of it's
scientific malfeasance that we see time something.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's it's a mathematical insanity that whenever it comes to data,
our government comes up with some weird stuff. They can't
even count the number of people are in I mean,
we lose a million employees from one administration.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
To the next. Yeah, I mean it's just you.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Know, COVID and everything we went through COVID, those numbers
all compromise. And I keep saying, I mean, you know
you're a data expert. I mean you're collecting data, Gregory,
what is going to happen? With the you know, forty
years down the road and the scientists that come along
and they're looking at the data that the United Nations
or even our US government endorsed for many years and
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it's bogus.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What are they going to think, Well, it's what they're
starting to think that. Now they're being exposed rapidly and
people are looking at this, it's becoming quite clear that
number one, they can't. They've all of their predictions that
they've made in the past have been incorrect. Yes, they've
they've predicted one thing after another and it hasn't materialized.
(32:52):
And so we're finding that their data is and what
they're claiming is easily rebutted, easily found falsify. We can
so falsify what they're saying. And that's what we're trying
to do here at the CO two Coalition, and we're
hoping too with things like this endangerment finding, it's going
to end up at the Supreme Court. What's probably going
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to happen is they're going to look at they're going
to again, today's the last day to submit comments and
I'll be doing that later, and they have to take
a look at what we've submitted and What will probably
happen is EPA and Lee's elderm will look at all
the comments and in two months or three months, they'll
come back and they'll say, well, we've reviewed all the
comments and after reviewing, we've decided that the endangerment finding
(33:41):
should be repealed, and we're enacting that the appeal of
the endangerment finding. And then they'll be sued by one
of the climate bedwater groups like the Environmental Defense Fund
or whatever, and they'll sue. It'll go to the Fifth
Circuit Court of Washington, d c. Which is pretty well
stacked with Obama and Biden judges, and that will the
(34:06):
Fifth Circuit will say, no, you're wrong, EPA, We're going
to overturn your ruling. And then the e PA will
go back and appeal that decision, and then it ends
up at the Supreme Court, where hopefully we will have
our day and our data will be presented at the
Supreme Court. At some point. It might be a year
(34:26):
and a half or two years from now, who knows,
it might be sooner.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But Gregory, I'm just hoping we get to that point
where you realize all these both scientists and others you
know that have promoted this misinformation. I understand, you know,
we're still talking about our First Amendment, right, that's really
you know, come into the forefront again, which I believe
is important.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But the thing is is our founding fathers.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I guess it really, you know, I don't want to
say assumed, but I guess they were hoping that when
it came to the right of free speech, that people
would be responsible, that they would speak in a way
that would do no harm. But you know, people like
al Gore, who how much money has he made over
the years with all his misinformation because you look back
(35:16):
at his track record and tell me one thing that
al Gore said, and you know, made a movie for
I think he got an oscar for it. Tell me
one thing that he said that you could hang your
hat on and say thank God for al Gore and
his work on climate.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You're going to have to give me a minute on
that bill. Well, I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
All the time you need because I'm asking I'm asking
anybody that question because you know, I want to be
fair minded about this, because I believe, look at if
you're going to be speaking into the public square, you
should have uh, there should be a code of responsibility
to that speech. It's one thing to say, look at
I'm opining or whatever. But when you go and you,
(35:58):
you know, produce such false information that you are enacting
policies that's costing the taxpayers an inordinate amount of money,
it's like, look at, I want my money back.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah. Well, just one example here is if if you
go lee Zelden, he hasn't taken this dagone chart down yet,
and I've been asking and asking, I've been sending him.
If you go to the EPA, if you just search
for two words, I guess it's actually three words, EPA
(36:32):
and heat waves, EPA and heat waves. The chart that
pops up is this. I think there's four or six
charts that they have that's called heat wave index for
the United States. Well, it looks terrible. It's just skyrocketing
heat wave index going up. There's no such thing. It
is absolutely a flat out lie. It is not a
(36:54):
heat wave index for the United States.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Is why is this why al Gore says the planet
is boiling?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It might be Yeah, they use this, it's called and
what they've do. If you look at it and deep
into the text, you find out it's really not heatwave
index in the United States. It's a heat wave index
for the top fifty metropolitan areas in the United States. Okay,
so the metropolitan areas are heating up significantly, but it
has nothing to do with climate change and has everything
(37:22):
to do was called the urban heat island effect HILD
population density. Right, Well, it's not popular. It's really concrete, asphalt,
air conditioning units, trucks, airplane you know some of these.
Some of the weather stations are near airports. You can
see just when a jet takes off going past the
(37:42):
sense or the temperature spikes up. But it's really the
inside of these cities can be They can be ten
to fifteen degrees warmer than the surrounding rural areas. Some
of the worst if you can see it. For Paris, London,
Deli's one of the worst. Washington d C. So it's
often ten degrees warmer. It's all false, it's not it
(38:04):
doesn't even do with climate change. And that's how they
lie to you. They failed to tell you important information
about that, and it's it's just been And one of
the other things you're showing a shot here. One of
the things I'm proud that we're doing it the co
too coali Ish and my new children's book is called Yes,
(38:24):
I want to talk about that. Chloe. Yes, Chloe the
Clownfish sleeps Well. So it's part of our sleep Well
series of children's books. They're science based and we had
a previous series of five. These are wonderfully illustrated children's
books that are science based. One of the one of
the ones that was a favorite was called Simon the
(38:45):
Solar Powered Cat. It was about photosynthesis and how Simon
everything he eats is based on photosynthesis. The mice the
chases in the barn and catches and eats are you
know they feed on grains and things like that. And
the wonderful little robins he loves so much, or you know,
(39:05):
they also are using eating the stuff that phots and
so we use this are We have a senior education
advisor and doctor Sharon camp A PhD and analytic chemistry.
She was an ap science teacher and reader and so
she prepares our We have lesson plans that go along
with them, and we have a website devoted for this.
(39:28):
It's called co two Learningcenter dot com. Co two co
two Learning Center dot com. You can go get this information.
The books for free. These are all provided. That's that's
our mission is to get these books, provide them to
It's mainly we're the homeschool community. Is just like I
was going to say, homeschooler's got to be eating us up. Yeah,
(39:49):
oh they are. And we provide this information. We provide
easily downloadable PDF lesson plans. Uh. We have a series
of videos as well. U. In one of the videos,
I was the voice of mister Fish and so it
was it was kind of we have some fun with it.
So the artist that resides in Brazil, he put a
(40:11):
silver mustache on Oh my god, I love it. So
it's funny. But in this book Chloe the Clownfish, there
is there is a real thing called climate anxiety where
children are they can't sleep at night. They're so worried
about the future. They don't think they have a future
because of man made global warming. And we tell the
(40:32):
story of Chloe. They can't sleep at night because she
learned in school that uh, that her home and her
family were in great danger from from global warming and
we're causing it. And we're able to tell us use
this to tell the truth about what's actually happening on
the Great Barrier Reef and other coral islands, and we
(40:53):
find that that in fact, the Great Barrier Reef at
the end of twenty twur four had the greatest amount
of coral cover that it's had since they began these
detailed surveys, So it's actually expanding and coral covers expanding.
There are different events that caused it to go back.
The starfish eat a lot the herk, if there's a well,
(41:17):
it's a cyclone over there down there in Australia. Cyclones
can be devastating, tearing apart the corals because a lot
of these are fragile. Uh. Hurricane Hamish a few years
right down came straight big, big Category five came straight
down along the eastern edge of Australia along the length
of the Great Barrier Reef and wiped wiped out a
(41:40):
lot and it didn't destroy it, but it broke a
lot of the corals off and it grows back, which
is what it's recovering now from that and the other
thing we talk about too. So this is a great
way for us to give this in. I collaborated with
doctor Peter ridd Uh to get the science right for
this book from Australia. He's our next book is almost complete.
(42:03):
It's called Foxy, the Fruit that Sleeps Well, So it's
about a fruit back that lives on the maldis the
islands of the Maldives, and Foxy has been told that
again his home and his family are going to be underwater,
and the terrible things will happen, and we're able to
tell the story of the truth. And actually this is
interesting if we have a few minutes that we're being
(42:25):
told that these islands, like the Maldives, will be underwater
in the next couple of decades, Maldives by twenty fifty.
We'll think about this. Eighteen thousand years ago, the Maldives
were just as they are today, just above sea level.
And in the last eighteen thousand years sea level has
risen four hundred feet. Why Bill, are these islands not
(42:48):
under four hundred feet of water? You might ask, yes, exactly,
And so the answers they're twofold earlier. Number One, corals
can grow really quickly. They can grow and keep up
with even very rapid sea level rise. But how do
we get these sands and how do the islands themselves grow?
And that's a geologic process. Known as accretion. And what
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happens are these these sands and gravels that ring the islands.
During storms, it's washed up onto the islands and then
winds and critters moving around the islands. It's a slow process,
but these islands have all kept up with sea level
and they will they'll do the same. So what they're
telling you is the Maldives right now sea level rise
(43:34):
is at about seven inches per century. By twenty fifty,
well we should experience the Maldives should experience another two
inches of sea level rise. So what they're telling you
is the last four hundred feet of sea level didn't
put those islands underwater, but the next two inches, look out,
they'll be underwater. Does that make sense? No, I can
(43:54):
answer that it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
If it makes sense if I'm getting the United States
to pay me for it.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh yeah, these guys they're standing there, the Prime Minister
of the Maldives, he's standing. There's a pick classic picture
of him standing hip deep in water with his hands out.
You know, needing billions of dollars of climate reparations. Get
back in your boat and start fishing. You know you're
not going to be And the other thing the Maldives
are undergoing construction boom, and so I think there are
(44:20):
twenty four resort complex is being built, airports for airports,
and they're all being funded by ensured by multinational insurance
companies that avoid risk like the plague. Why are they
ensuring these millions of dollars? It's going away?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, I'm waiting to hear if the Obamas are building
a mansion there or something, then you know for sure
that you're being worked. We've got about three minutes left here, Gregory.
You know we talked about al Gore. Haven't heard a
whole lot about Ms Greta lately. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, you know, she's gone over to the dark Well,
she was already on the wrong side. Now she's gone
over to the dark side. She's pro hamas agitator, she's
pro pro Palestinian, pro Hamas anti Israel. So it turns
out not only is she a history denier, she's also
(45:14):
a apparently anti Semitic. Yeah, anti Israel. I mean, I
don't know, but she's she doesn't talk much about climate anymore,
and probably a good reason.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, maybe she just spent all her bullets and realized that,
you know, people weren't giving her place, She wasn't garnering
the attention that she was before.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Right, Well, she's not twelve years old anymore. She's an
now fair game. I think she's twenty two or twenty three.
She's an adult, and you know, we do need to
pull her punches on her. She's an uneducated person, knows
nothing about climate, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Whether it's her or you know the science guy. You know,
we mentioned al Gore again, he was.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Not a scientist.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Say who's not either one of them? And uh, you
know it's just uh, you know, it's just absurd. But
I did want and before we close off hers, remind
everybody of my favorite app that you have designed. It
is available and easy to download, so you know, if
you've got questions, uh, and you're not immediately around then uh,
(46:23):
you know your app has just been such a benefit
to me and just being able to have rational conversations,
go ahead, Yeah it.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Unfortunately, Bill, it's it's not available for Android users. It
was removed about a year and a half ago, and
we're not going to be still haven't put it back.
Huh No, and it's i'd like to you'd like I
don't think it's anything anything from nefarious. But we went
through some changes here. I put it together. We created
a limited liability corporation with the developer of the app.
(46:54):
I did the science and then I bought him out.
It's a free app, yes, but it's a free app.
But it's it's nothing nefarious on the part of Google.
Just it's just some technical legal things that's not going
to lust. But but I'm the good news is I'm
(47:15):
creating a new app very similar to this for the
CO two coalition, right, but I've got it's on my
to do list, but it's got a lot ahead of it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, well you got a bunch of do but inconvenient facts,
the science the al Gore doesn't want you to know
sixty inconvenient facts. See, I have my own copy as well. Well, yeah,
there you go. I tell you know, when you told
me about it, I put it on right away. It's
been with me. So I want our audience. So Apple
users obviously you can have access, but androids not. But
(47:47):
you know, for those of you that have Apple, this
is brilliant. It's good stuff, you know, that can help
balance out the misinformation that we've been bombarded with. Whether
it's from the United Nations or other interests that are
more Uh, it's more about control and power than it
is promoting the freedoms that that are enshrined in our constitution.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Gregor writes down they are, and I'll encourage anyone watching this.
You probably learned a few things, and if you want
to learn more, good bye. My book very convenient. If
you just search for two words convenient, warming, that'll take
your right to Amazon or my website. And then Chloe
the Clownfish. Just search for that Chloe seven bucks. Hey,
(48:30):
your child, grandchild, great grandchild, it will become his or
her favorite book very quickly. It's it's just wonderfully illustrated
in manga style. It's it's really so seven bucks. Come on,
you can afford it, Chloe the Clownfish. And then that's
cheap education. Let me tell you. Yeah, I can tell you.
(48:51):
My grandkids are chewing it up.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
They appreciate it. So did you get one for them?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, thank you very gay appreciate that. Well, Okay,
we got to leave it there, Gregor wry Stone again,
as we wrap things up, remind everybody of the website
to be in touch with you, and as we always
say on this show that look At you got to
own your own knowledge what we shared with you, As
Gregory said, hopefully it motivates you enough, you know, check
(49:16):
check it out for yourself and and verify what we're saying, uh,
because we can tell you quite clearly. And this is
why the the other side seems so quiet, whether it's
Retta Thurnberg or even Al Gore these days, is that
look At America is wising up to uh, to the
reality and the truth of real science, right it is.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
And the u ur L for the CO two Coalition
CO two Coalition dot org. GOO two Coalition And if
you're interested in homeschooling CO two Learningcenter dot com. CO
two Learningcenter dot com. Uh, you'll won't you'll you'll love
it that you can down three books for your grandchildren,
(50:02):
your children, go get it. And we need to educate
our children in American around the world are being indoctrinated
and indoctrinated into a climate cult. They're being taught group thinking,
consensus science. We want to teach them critical thinking skills exactly,
(50:23):
and they need to be able to know the scientific
method and what that is. Well, Gregor rights doone cannot
thank you enough. Great job.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I appreciate all the great work you've been doing on
behalf of we the people, in bringing us the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but Gregor Rightstone, the geologist
and climate contrarian for as long as he can be,
tells me, the executive director of CO two Coalition and
author of Inconvenient Facts. So we also have his new
book of very Convenient Warming. And let's not forget about
(50:53):
you know, Chloe. Yeah, monfish, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Greg. Thank you so much for being with us. Take care,
be well, my friend.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
All right, Thank you, Gregory wry Stone, and our thanks
thanks to you for sharing a part of your day
and being a part of the conversation here and for
more information on the show Bill Martinez live dot com.
Thank you so much. May God bless you and keep you.
May make his face shine upon you, May be gracious
unto you and give you His peace. God bless everyone.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
You know, ever since Al Gore came out with the
inconvenient truth or the convenient truth of a way inconvenient
truth right, and got all this you know, lawed and
praise and created a whole new industry, the climate industrial complex,
it's like we've been deluged with anti science and which
is kind of you know the theme of so much
(01:03):
of our government.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know, who do we trust? What can we trust?
And when it comes to climate, then you realize was
you go and you pull back the curtain on these
climate scientists and realize, you know, like the old saying,
just follow the money and you realize that they're making
statements because that's what they're paid to do. They've really
(01:26):
sold themselves out at the detriment of we, the people
here in America, and not only here in America but
around the world. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Along the way, Gosh, Gregory Rightstone came into my orbit,
and he and I have been in constant discussion over
the years, I think probably like about fifteen years, it seems.
And Gregory is a geologist and executive director of the
CO two Coalition in Arlington, Virginia. Is best selling author
of A Very Convenient Warming, How Modest Warming and more
(01:55):
CO two Are Benefiting Humanity. He's also written other books,
and we're going to talk about that as well. But
right now I want to bring on Gregory Rightstone on
the show. Gregory, great to have you with us. How
are you?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Oh good? Really really busy though, I got to tell you,
and it's good. I'm not complaining. We're being we being
the CO two Coalision or are deep in the midst
of pushing back and being very successful about promoting the
true science and the facts about climate change and the
(02:27):
benefits of warming and more CO two and I couldn't
be pumped it's our people, and our members are proud
of what we're doing and thanks to people like you,
Bill for helping us get our message out well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Gregory, everything about our show is about in the pursuit
of truth, as you know, no matter where it leads.
And this is why you and I came together, because
you know, I realized early on the folk science that
was butten was put upon us, you know, just like
what we went through in COVID. And this has all
been a culmination of this which whis you know, been injurious.
It's just science. I mean, we need science to ask
(03:04):
questions and be allowed to ask questions and not to
be bought and sold and start presenting a bunch of
propaganda that causes us to spend trillions of dollars. And
then also, as if that's not enough, let's just assume
a bunch of guilt and be liable for third world
countries to help them get out of their climate prices.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Right it is. And I'm just last week I gave
a lecture to the Irish Science Climate Foundation and you
pardon me, no one came on suddenly, but I gave
a talk. The title was using scientific or science and
(03:47):
the scientific method just to fight climate change disinformation by
scientific societies, government institutions and the People Advisory Committee. And
it was it was it really was an analysis of
(04:07):
everything we're doing and fighting this particularly today is the
is the last day to submit comments for the EPA
Endangerment Finding, and we might want to just talk a
little bit about what that is. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, yeah.
So in two thousand and nine, the EPA under Obama
UH set of regulation controlling emissions from vehicles like duty
(04:32):
trucks of CO two emissions and they decided that and
claimed that CO two carbon dioxide was harmful to human
health and by that they could regulate it, and boy
have they. And it's just it's called the endangerment finding
because CO two is endangering American's health. Well it's nothing
could be further from the truth. It's a huge benefit.
(04:55):
But they didn't look at any of those, any of
the positive aspects, and they looked at completely fabric caid
made up climate crises linked to the day link to
CO two. And so we've already filed one comment on Friday.
It was based on a paper we've just revised by
Wes Allen from Australia. Climate change in human health cataloging.
(05:19):
Now health has been improved and significantly not declining. I'll
be filing a second comment later today, and what we're
going to do is in this we're pushing back against
this notion of CO two driven calamities, crises, and harms
(05:42):
to human health. So we've been busy doing that and
we've got our senior legal advisor leading the legal analysis
and what we've done too, what he's done is they
were in twenty twenty four last year in June, there
were two really important Supreme Court visions. The first one
was the it overturned the what's called Chevron deference right,
(06:08):
which is where if there's if it's to the court
and they're reviewing whether a regulation could be appealed or
or enacted, that they give deference to the regulatory agencies
because those regulatory agencies, they say, are they should be
the experts. They should, but they're not. And the regulatory
agencies is given or given difference because they should have
(06:31):
looked at everything, but they haven't. And they recognize that,
and they removed that deference for the regulatory agencies. The second, uh.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Supreme second, let me I mean positive for just second,
I want I want the audience to catch that the
fact that the Supreme Court ruled on that, to me,
that's just a huge red flag saying, you know, here
we've yielded under under the Chevron Act, We've yielded to
these regulatory agencies, and now we're looking at the results
(07:01):
and saying we're not getting the value that we anticipated
from that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And they've overstepped, have they not? Yeah? Well, actually what
they said was that the regulatory agencies did not look
at all of the pertinent informations, They did not review
the materials, and in some cases outright line to the courts,
they presented false and misleading information, disinformation, misinformation. Uh. And
(07:27):
it's been it's worth the American public the results. But
right the day, actually the day before that ruling was
another one called Ohio versus EPA. And then if they
they looked at what we call the State Farm Defense,
and then that the Supreme Court said that regulatory agencies
have to look at all of the data anything that's
(07:50):
raised when when they when regulatory agencies like EPA or
Department of Transportation, Department of Energy, whenever they propose regulation,
they propose it. And then there's a period of a
couple of months, maybe six weeks, where people can comment
on it. And this ruling in the State Farm they
(08:11):
said that these regulatory agencies need to consider all pertinent data.
Any of the comments that have that are made with relevant,
significant information or a significant line of thought, the agency
needs to consider that. Well, they never did. They only
looked at any information that helped their case and never
(08:35):
presented or looked at things that were posed to them.
And here they say, you have to and this is
really important for us in our comments again, particularly the
comment I'm filing today on this endangerment finding uses that
State Farm defense where we're going through and we're saying,
if you imposed a law or a regulation in this
(08:57):
case and didn't consider everything, it's on its face unlawful.
It needs to be it needs to be repealed. And
so that's that's the gist of our our filing that
we'll make later today.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And the thing that's so frustrating about that great ground strying.
You know, I just again, I'm I'm listening as our
audience is listening on this, and they're probably getting frustrated
and saying, wait a minute, you know we're being sold
you know, a bucket of goods here. And meanwhile, by
the time this goes through the process, you know, we're
four or five years down the road. We've been told
(09:30):
all these lies. How do you remedy you know, all
the lies and the cost to the American tax payer
where you've got regulators doing things that now you know,
five years later are determined to be unlawful.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, and think about this. Let mean, let's let's think
about all of your listeners or viewers right now. You're
probably sitting in the comfort of your own home, maybe
your office, when you're when you're looking at this, look
around you. Every appliance, every everything using electricity or hot
water has now been have significant regulations imposed on it
(10:07):
because of this endangerment finding and other rules like it.
And they look above you. Your ceiling fan above you
has been regulated. Last year, your dishwasher, your washing machine,
you're dryer, you name, Incandescent light bulbs were banned. And
so what the government's done is say, well, we're going
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to impose these regulations, let's say, on dishwashers and dishwashers today.
When you buy a modern dishwasher today, you can't buy
a really good dishwasher by that, I mean one that
can get the washer dishes washed in thirty minutes. Today's
dishwashers go anywhere from two and a half to four
hours per cycle. And it's because they're very low energy
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and it's very low water. It just takes a long time.
And what we find too these because it's low energy,
they're using smaller motors that burn out. They've asked these
small motors of being asked to do more, so they
burn out and need replaced more often. And so what
they say is, this is a high efficiency dishwasher and
it's best for you because you're gonna you're gonna save money,
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use less electricity, less water. Well bill their different definition,
the government's definition of efficient efficient dishwashers a lot different
than my wife's. My wife her definition of an efficient
dishwasher is one that would get it done in thirty
or forty minutes or less and the dishes are clean.
And you can't buy those today. The government's saying you're
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only allowed to buy what we have approved in which
is government a fruit dishwasher or all of these other things.
They're telling you what you can drive, or they've been
trying to what you can drive how to heat your
home with temperature to heat or cool your home, or
it's just it's crazy. The overreach of these regulatory agencies. Well,
this is an infringement, infringement on our on our freedom.
(12:00):
It is. And when I when I tell you to
bear with me, when I'm pro choice, I'm strongly pro choice.
And by that I mean your viewers and listeners should
have the choice of what to buy, what kind of dishwasher,
washing machine, you name it. Uh, they should have the
choice to be able to buy a shower head that
doesn't have a flow restrictor, so the water just dribbles out.
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I bought a new I bought a new shower head
when I moved into my new home. Uh, and it
just it was it was a dual head. My son
in law came down, he said, let me look on that,
and there were three flow restrictors on that deck on thing.
He knocked them. He knocked them out. Man, the water
comes out like Niagara falls. Now it's a wonderful shower.
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And you know, things like that. They want to they
have to control every aspect of our lives. We've had
our freedom systematically taken away from us. And just we're
just willing sheep going along with it. Well, no more,
no more, We're going to rise up. We're going to
do it. And it's all really came to a head
on January twentieth with the inauguration of Donald Trump when
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he brought in his his people at Energy, at Interior,
at E p A and others lee Zelden, Chris Wright,
Doug Burgham. They're they're pulling back on this and they're
going great guns. So kudos kudos to them. I talked
with Steve Coonan not too long ago, who's the author
of I'm struggling to think of his book. I'm sure
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you know it. It's but he and Will Happer and
I were He said, you know, felt felt feels like
we've had a strong headwind. We were facing strong headwinds
in our in our battle and uh and he says,
now feels like the winds at our back. And so uh,
it's it's a wonderful thing and we're moving forward. We're
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going to the name of his book is going to
gets back behind me. I know, it's almost it's not
it's not unsettled, right, it is. It might be the
second best book on her third best book on climate
change that's been written in the last fifteen years. Of
course number one would be inconvenient facts. Number two a
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very convenient warming and then probably unsettled. But I'm biased.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Who knows well, You've been fighting the battle out there,
you know, for it seems decades, and thank god, you know,
because you know, there had to be some pushback because unfortunately,
you know, with these progressive governments, so Obama Biden continued
to course the course there and you know, we have
been lied to and somehow, yeah, you know, again indoctrinated
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on this misinformation regarding climate and you know, thank god
for you know, groups like yours and what the CO
two Coalition has been doing in bringing the facts against
this misinformation.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Greg Ry. Yeah, and we're seeing some real results. We
see it every day. We're when I talk, when I
talk to regular people that nobody's in its affiliated with
and just regular Joe and Jane, the guy or Gala
sitting next to me on the on an airplane that's
trapped next to me for two and a half hours,
you know, but they're there. They're thirsty for this information
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we can bring into them. And I think people are
really open and we're going to find out more. We're
We've created two sixty second ads that just finished. I'm
just starting fundraising for those. I want to try and
like to find someone, a well heeled individual that that's
willing to recognize the power of a national ad campaign
(15:38):
showing these wonderful sixty second ads. I want to run
it on broadcast TV streaming services and get this information
out there that people most people don't know that increase
in carbon dioxide and modest warming or are having great
benefits to crop production, increases azards or shrinking forests, or
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expanding vegetations, increasing lifespans, are expanding, lengthening crop The growing
season for crops has increased nearly two weeks since nineteen hundred.
These are all great things, exactly. We need people to
understand what this is.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Well, you got to make sure you get those ads
to me. I'd like to have them and I'll run
them on our show.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, we'reposure here. Yeah, I can't do it yet.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I don't know when it's ready because again, it goes
hand in glove with what we're about in terms of
you know, getting the truth out there. You know, I
think it's quite interesting because when I observe you know
what's happening in the culture and how people when they
bring up a climate change, it's not being brought up,
you know, with such passion as it was even you know,
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five years ago.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Now they're running away from it. They're running away from it.
They're big funding sources are going on. Wind and solar
facilities are big, defunded right and left. Every seems like
every day there's another either ev manufacturer that's folded up.
We hear of one car manufacturer after another pulling out
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and not and not even going forward with their planned
electric car development, wind turbine development offshore, particularly the Vineyard,
when we're still fighting the one in offshore Virginia that's
funded and pushed hard by Dominion Energy. Dominion Energy wants
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it is there a utility, right, and they don't care.
They don't care what their costs are because they're guaranteed,
they're guaranteed to fixed percent income and so actually the
more money they spend, the more money they make, which
is completely ludicrous. People don't know that. So we're seeing
it too across America, people pushing back against carbon dioxide pipeline.
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They've got this crazy notion of carbon capture and sequestration
where they're at. They're going to spend huge, huge, huge
amounts of money to capture CO two from the atmosphere
and then truck not truck it move it through pipelines
across America's heartland to be pumped down. Wells, it's the
removing a beneficial molecule at high cost. It's actually going
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to be harmful to our environment, not benefits. What's what's
where's the science on that? Well, they can do it.
It's there are ways to capture CO two.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
No, no, but I mean in terms of the benefit.
I mean because anything mostly that goes along with the
you know environment, you got to do all these environmental
studies and everything.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Where are those studies to support that? No, you don't.
That's only if you're an oil and gas or coal company,
if you're one of these renewables, if you're associated weight
with renewables, we don't worry about that. Report saw that
in the Vineyard Wind where Donald Trump Doug Burgham shut
them down because they hadn't fulfilled all the required investigations
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and they were being left going ahead to build it.
And so this, for example, let's say we're going to
capture carbon from a coal fired electricity generation plant to
install that material. The carbon capture costs about a billion
just let under a billion dollars for each plant. It
would the goal, of course, is to remove CO two
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from the atmosphere, and what it does is energy intensive,
so it cost a billion dollars and it would require
twenty four percent of the energy that's produced from that
plant to run the capture to get to do that,
and it's so wrong on so many levels. And then
they've got to build this infrastructure to pipe the CO
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two to wherever they're going to pump it down underground,
hoping it to doesn't go out to the surface. And
one of the problems with CO two and steel is
that it makes steel brittle, so it's more likely to rupture,
which is you know CO two is again it's not
a pollutant, but it can in high, very high concentrations
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of tens of thousands of parts per million, it can
actually you don't you're not able to get enough oxygen.
You actually you die from as asphyxy or whatever from
lack of oxygen. And then we see that with in
USDA particularly has stringent regulations because they use dry ice
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for a lot of their cooling for food and dry ice.
What is dry ice, you might ask, frozen and carbon dioxide.
And so as dry ice warms up, its sublimates, so
it doesn't go from CO two to a CO two liquid.
It goes directly from a solid which is dry ice,
to the gaseous form of CO two. And if you're
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an enclosed area working on green beans or poultry or whatever,
and this dry ice can accumulate to very high levels quickly,
and so they have to have warnings and things like that.
So the USDA in particular has looked at this, but
again we're nowhere near We're four hundred parts per million now,
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according to OSHA, we can safely have up to six
or eight thousand parts per million in the workplace environment,
which is twenty times what it is today. Right, let
me ask you this. You know, in terms of their
desire to get CO two out of the environment, is
that even possible. No, they can try to remove and
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they can remove a little bit of it, but it's
it would have to be a massive, massive amount of
the tens of trillions of dollars. But what they are
doing is there's actually discussions now about geoengineering putting salt
sulfates into the atmosphere, Uh, to block to block the sun. Well,
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we were doing that with coal fired power plants for free.
The cold fire power plants are putting the sulfur. Uh,
it's a sulfured inside into the atmosphere. Remember acid rain,
that was all Yeah, that was a real thing, and
we've cleaned it up. We've prevented it from going into
the atmosphere from cold fire plant power plants at great cost.
And now they want to do it intentionally. So uh,
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they're making acid rain great again.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I guess, I guess. Yeah, that's just that's just insane.
And uh, on your on your book. Now, let's talk
about a very convenient warming that people are talking about. Uh,
and it's it's more what you've been sharing with us.
But uh, you know, just a I guess is a
giving us a better understanding of all these things that
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we've been light about. And what we're finding out is
the things we've been light about really are the beneficial
aspects of our environment.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah. Just like my first book, which was Inconvenient Facts,
I'm I wrote both of these for the for the
non scientist. I've so many people have told me what
a what a wonderful read it is. I picked it
up and hardly put it down. It was really entertaining,
well written, informative, well researched. I've got great charts throughout
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the easily understandable, and so I dive into one of
my favorite subjects is the strong relationship between human history
and climate history. And so the book is divided into
three sections parts. First number one is what's actually going
on with CO two and temperature that and the second
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part is this section on human history, and we find
that going back to the first great civilizations that arose
during what was called the minot and warm period. It
was the Bronze Age. It was a time of much
much warmer temperatures than today. Life was good. All the
first great empires and civilizations rose up, the Hittites, the Babylonians,
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the Assyrians, the Haropan Empire, and the Indus River Valley.
These all grew up. Food was bountiful. Life was good.
And then it started getting cold, and within a very
short period of time, all of those empires collapsed because
along with the cold came rop failure, famine, pestilence, and
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masty population, and and that led to what was called
the Greek Dark Ages. It was called the Dark Ages
because we really don't know a whole lot about it,
because with the failure of these empires, not many of
the scholars survived that were writing down histories, and so
it's a dark period of human history. And it didn't
get better to the Roman warm period of the time
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of Christ. And then at the end of that we
saw again cold rop failing, famine, pestilence, masty populace, led
to the Dark Ages, and then the most recent warming
period again it's warmer than today, was a Medieval warm
period which lasted until it started getting really cold, which
led to the Little Ice Age, which was probably the
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coldest period of the last ten thousand years, and life
was really bad during that time.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Is this a natural cycle of the earth that it
goes through where you get warming and cooling. That just
it's just the way God designed it to operate this way,
It appears to be the last several have been separated
on about a thousand year cycles, because the Roman warm
Medieval warm period was about a thousand years ago. It
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was around around eight fifty to twelve fifty AD. And
of course the Roman warm period was the year zero
around there several centuries, so it's about a thousand year
cycle between warm periods and the warm period that we're
in today. Again, think of all the great things that
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are associated with us since we started warming coming out
of this little ice age. Just tremendous benefits that are
crude and so what we're seeing too. And then the
third section of the book is associated with the cover
of the book.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
You showed it. There's a I've got a woman with
her arms raised standing in field of sunflowers, just joyous,
and it's reflective of just that we should celebrate the benefits.
It's the first book I wrote again Inconvenient Facts, was
I explored that there is no I've proved conclusively with
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lots of work that there is no climate crisis. But
we've gone beyond that now that not only is there
not a climate crisis, but in fact, man by almost
every metric we look at, Earth's ecosystems are thriving and prospering,
and humanity is benefiting from the combination of warming and
our co two. It's it's there's no doubt about it.
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The best metric would be would be vegetative growth. It's
called the greening of the Earth. We're seeing that from
the near polar regions to the equator, every ecological niche
has huge increases in vegetation. And one of the things
we can see what's going on. We have really good records.
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We can figure out what our emissions are of CO
two into the atmosphere, and it's mainly the burning of
fossil fuels. And we look at that only half of
our emissions are showing up in the atmosphere. We're emitting it,
but only half show up. What's happening to the other half.
The other half is going into nature. Most of it's
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being consumed by increased photosynthesis, right, And it's so the earth.
You know, plants are loving it. Yeah, exactly, they are
loving it. And if plants could have a vote, they
be waving their little forearms going more z too, more
me yes, exactly. And we're seeing too that. Uh. For example,
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boreal forests in Canada because of the warming. Doctor Timball
documented that boreal forests in Canada, Canada moved one hundred
kilometers northward over the last one hundred years because of
the warming. And so we've got northern northern latitudes are
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seeing increased vegetation move. You know, it's moving further north
than the latitudes. The altitudes are moving higher on the
mountain side of higher altitudes. So you'll have to forgive
me apologies to Jimmy Buffett, but it's it's changes changes
in latitudes and changes in altitudes.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Right, well, but eventually and eventually it would change your
attitude is things, you know, But yes, exactly, that's why
I moved here.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
That's why I moved to Florid.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I work out on my lunai. I love that working outside,
and so it's it's a wonderful environment here, and warm
is good. People like warm. We're creatures of a warm environment.
But because of our use of fossil fuels and other things,
we're able to populate just about every except for the
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extreme polar and antarctic. We can occupy and survive and
thrive in just about every environment.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, and what you're showing here is that, as your
book says, you know, global warming is saving lives. It's
not creating this chaos that some of these mad scientists.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Would want us to believe. Exactly.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
These climate hustlers, right, that's why I call them, because
you know, it's like look at have an opinion, but
you know, I would hope that you would have an
opinion that would serve the American people, serve the world,
because right now, I mean, you've got the world terribly confused.
The United Nations isn't helping us out. You know, World
(30:06):
Economic Forum continues on with their debt, you know, disastrous agenda,
which has nothing to do for the betterment of the
population as far as I can.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Tell exactly, And you're right, global warming saves lives. And
when we say that people's heads explode, you can't say that, well,
yeah I can. I can back it up with documentation.
The largest study of its kind looking at mortality related
to temperatures. Temperature related mortality was doctor Antonio Gasparini and
a team of physicians. They looked at seventy four million
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temperature related deaths and found that twenty times as many
people die from cold as from heat, which is most
people don't know that the thing is just the opposite
twenty times. A recent study was published in the Journal
of the Lancet and you could tell the authors or
they weren't happy with the results of their study. Their
(31:00):
study they found that ten times as many people die
from cold as from heat, and looking at it, they
only mentioned that one time. Every time afterwards they called
cold related mortality non optimal temperatures non optimal temperatures, which,
not knowing anything else, you would think, oh, that's probably
(31:22):
heat related deaths, but it's cold related death And in
fact they had a chart in the book and I
capture that in my book. The x axis for heat
related deaths was zero to the two fifty and the
cold related deaths was zero to fifties. But the chart
that they showed falsely expanded heat related deaths by five times.
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And it was this is just the type of it's
scientific malfeasance that we see time something.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
It's it's a mathematical insanity that whenever it comes to data,
our government comes up with some weird stuff. They can't
even count the number of people are in I mean,
we lose a million employees from one administration.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
To the next. Yeah, I mean it's just you.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Know, COVID and everything we went through COVID, those numbers
all compromise. And I keep saying, I mean, you know
you're a data expert. I mean you're collecting data, Gregory,
what is going to happen? With the you know, forty
years down the road and the scientists that come along
and they're looking at the data that the United Nations
or even our US government endorsed for many years and
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it's bogus.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
What are they going to think, Well, it's what they're
starting to think that. Now they're being exposed rapidly and
people are looking at this, it's becoming quite clear that
number one, they can't. They've all of their predictions that
they've made in the past have been incorrect. Yes, they've
they've predicted one thing after another and it hasn't materialized.
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And so we're finding that their data is and what
they're claiming is easily rebutted, easily found falsify. We can
so falsify what they're saying. And that's what we're trying
to do here at the CO two Coalition, and we're
hoping too with things like this endangerment finding, it's going
to end up at the Supreme Court. What's probably going
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to happen is they're going to look at they're going
to again, today's the last day to submit comments and
I'll be doing that later, and they have to take
a look at what we've submitted and What will probably
happen is EPA and Lee's elderm will look at all
the comments and in two months or three months, they'll
come back and they'll say, well, we've reviewed all the
comments and after reviewing, we've decided that the endangerment finding
(33:41):
should be repealed, and we're enacting that the appeal of
the endangerment finding. And then they'll be sued by one
of the climate bedwater groups like the Environmental Defense Fund
or whatever, and they'll sue. It'll go to the Fifth
Circuit Court of Washington, d c. Which is pretty well
stacked with Obama and Biden judges, and that will the
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Fifth Circuit will say, no, you're wrong, EPA, We're going
to overturn your ruling. And then the e PA will
go back and appeal that decision, and then it ends
up at the Supreme Court, where hopefully we will have
our day and our data will be presented at the
Supreme Court. At some point. It might be a year
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and a half or two years from now, who knows,
it might be sooner.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
But Gregory, I'm just hoping we get to that point
where you realize all these both scientists and others you
know that have promoted this misinformation. I understand, you know,
we're still talking about our First Amendment, right, that's really
you know, come into the forefront again, which I believe
is important.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But the thing is is our founding fathers.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I guess it really, you know, I don't want to
say assumed, but I guess they were hoping that when
it came to the right of free speech, that people
would be responsible, that they would speak in a way
that would do no harm. But you know, people like
al Gore, who how much money has he made over
the years with all his misinformation because you look back
(35:16):
at his track record and tell me one thing that
al Gore said, and you know, made a movie for
I think he got an oscar for it. Tell me
one thing that he said that you could hang your
hat on and say thank God for al Gore and
his work on climate.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
You're going to have to give me a minute on
that bill. Well, I'll give you.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
All the time you need because I'm asking I'm asking
anybody that question because you know, I want to be
fair minded about this, because I believe, look at if
you're going to be speaking into the public square, you
should have uh, there should be a code of responsibility
to that speech. It's one thing to say, look at
I'm opining or whatever. But when you go and you,
(35:58):
you know, produce such false information that you are enacting
policies that's costing the taxpayers an inordinate amount of money,
it's like, look at, I want my money back.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Yeah. Well, just one example here is if if you
go lee Zelden, he hasn't taken this dagone chart down yet,
and I've been asking and asking, I've been sending him.
If you go to the EPA, if you just search
for two words, I guess it's actually three words, EPA
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and heat waves, EPA and heat waves. The chart that
pops up is this. I think there's four or six
charts that they have that's called heat wave index for
the United States. Well, it looks terrible. It's just skyrocketing
heat wave index going up. There's no such thing. It
is absolutely a flat out lie. It is not a
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heat wave index for the United States.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Is why is this why al Gore says the planet
is boiling?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It might be Yeah, they use this, it's called and
what they've do. If you look at it and deep
into the text, you find out it's really not heatwave
index in the United States. It's a heat wave index
for the top fifty metropolitan areas in the United States. Okay,
so the metropolitan areas are heating up significantly, but it
has nothing to do with climate change and has everything
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to do was called the urban heat island effect HILD
population density. Right, Well, it's not popular. It's really concrete, asphalt,
air conditioning units, trucks, airplane you know some of these.
Some of the weather stations are near airports. You can
see just when a jet takes off going past the
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sense or the temperature spikes up. But it's really the
inside of these cities can be They can be ten
to fifteen degrees warmer than the surrounding rural areas. Some
of the worst if you can see it. For Paris, London,
Deli's one of the worst. Washington d C. So it's
often ten degrees warmer. It's all false, it's not it
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doesn't even do with climate change. And that's how they
lie to you. They failed to tell you important information
about that, and it's it's just been And one of
the other things you're showing a shot here. One of
the things I'm proud that we're doing it the co
too coali Ish and my new children's book is called Yes,
(38:24):
I want to talk about that. Chloe. Yes, Chloe the
Clownfish sleeps Well. So it's part of our sleep Well
series of children's books. They're science based and we had
a previous series of five. These are wonderfully illustrated children's
books that are science based. One of the one of
the ones that was a favorite was called Simon the
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Solar Powered Cat. It was about photosynthesis and how Simon
everything he eats is based on photosynthesis. The mice the
chases in the barn and catches and eats are you
know they feed on grains and things like that. And
the wonderful little robins he loves so much, or you know,
(39:05):
they also are using eating the stuff that phots and
so we use this are We have a senior education
advisor and doctor Sharon camp A PhD and analytic chemistry.
She was an ap science teacher and reader and so
she prepares our We have lesson plans that go along
with them, and we have a website devoted for this.
(39:28):
It's called co two Learningcenter dot com. Co two co
two Learning Center dot com. You can go get this information.
The books for free. These are all provided. That's that's
our mission is to get these books, provide them to
It's mainly we're the homeschool community. Is just like I
was going to say, homeschooler's got to be eating us up. Yeah,
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oh they are. And we provide this information. We provide
easily downloadable PDF lesson plans. Uh. We have a series
of videos as well. U. In one of the videos,
I was the voice of mister Fish and so it
was it was kind of we have some fun with it.
So the artist that resides in Brazil, he put a
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silver mustache on Oh my god, I love it. So
it's funny. But in this book Chloe the Clownfish, there
is there is a real thing called climate anxiety where
children are they can't sleep at night. They're so worried
about the future. They don't think they have a future
because of man made global warming. And we tell the
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story of Chloe. They can't sleep at night because she
learned in school that uh, that her home and her
family were in great danger from from global warming and
we're causing it. And we're able to tell us use
this to tell the truth about what's actually happening on
the Great Barrier Reef and other coral islands, and we
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find that that in fact, the Great Barrier Reef at
the end of twenty twur four had the greatest amount
of coral cover that it's had since they began these
detailed surveys, So it's actually expanding and coral covers expanding.
There are different events that caused it to go back.
The starfish eat a lot the herk, if there's a well,
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it's a cyclone over there down there in Australia. Cyclones
can be devastating, tearing apart the corals because a lot
of these are fragile. Uh. Hurricane Hamish a few years
right down came straight big, big Category five came straight
down along the eastern edge of Australia along the length
of the Great Barrier Reef and wiped wiped out a
(41:40):
lot and it didn't destroy it, but it broke a
lot of the corals off and it grows back, which
is what it's recovering now from that and the other
thing we talk about too. So this is a great
way for us to give this in. I collaborated with
doctor Peter ridd Uh to get the science right for
this book from Australia. He's our next book is almost complete.
(42:03):
It's called Foxy, the Fruit that Sleeps Well, So it's
about a fruit back that lives on the maldis the
islands of the Maldives, and Foxy has been told that
again his home and his family are going to be underwater,
and the terrible things will happen, and we're able to
tell the story of the truth. And actually this is
interesting if we have a few minutes that we're being
(42:25):
told that these islands, like the Maldives, will be underwater
in the next couple of decades, Maldives by twenty fifty.
We'll think about this. Eighteen thousand years ago, the Maldives
were just as they are today, just above sea level.
And in the last eighteen thousand years sea level has
risen four hundred feet. Why Bill, are these islands not
(42:48):
under four hundred feet of water? You might ask, yes, exactly,
And so the answers they're twofold earlier. Number One, corals
can grow really quickly. They can grow and keep up
with even very rapid sea level rise. But how do
we get these sands and how do the islands themselves grow?
And that's a geologic process. Known as accretion. And what
(43:10):
happens are these these sands and gravels that ring the islands.
During storms, it's washed up onto the islands and then
winds and critters moving around the islands. It's a slow process,
but these islands have all kept up with sea level
and they will they'll do the same. So what they're
telling you is the Maldives right now sea level rise
(43:34):
is at about seven inches per century. By twenty fifty,
well we should experience the Maldives should experience another two
inches of sea level rise. So what they're telling you
is the last four hundred feet of sea level didn't
put those islands underwater, but the next two inches, look out,
they'll be underwater. Does that make sense? No, I can
(43:54):
answer that it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
If it makes sense if I'm getting the United States
to pay me for it.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh yeah, these guys they're standing there, the Prime Minister
of the Maldives, he's standing. There's a pick classic picture
of him standing hip deep in water with his hands out.
You know, needing billions of dollars of climate reparations. Get
back in your boat and start fishing. You know you're
not going to be And the other thing the Maldives
are undergoing construction boom, and so I think there are
(44:20):
twenty four resort complex is being built, airports for airports,
and they're all being funded by ensured by multinational insurance
companies that avoid risk like the plague. Why are they
ensuring these millions of dollars? It's going away?
Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yeah, I'm waiting to hear if the Obamas are building
a mansion there or something, then you know for sure
that you're being worked. We've got about three minutes left here, Gregory.
You know we talked about al Gore. Haven't heard a
whole lot about Ms Greta lately. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Well, you know, she's gone over to the dark Well,
she was already on the wrong side. Now she's gone
over to the dark side. She's pro hamas agitator, she's
pro pro Palestinian, pro Hamas anti Israel. So it turns
out not only is she a history denier, she's also
(45:14):
a apparently anti Semitic. Yeah, anti Israel. I mean, I
don't know, but she's she doesn't talk much about climate anymore,
and probably a good reason.
Speaker 3 (45:27):
Yeah, maybe she just spent all her bullets and realized that,
you know, people weren't giving her place, She wasn't garnering
the attention that she was before.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Right, Well, she's not twelve years old anymore. She's an
now fair game. I think she's twenty two or twenty three.
She's an adult, and you know, we do need to
pull her punches on her. She's an uneducated person, knows
nothing about climate, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Whether it's her or you know the science guy. You know,
we mentioned al Gore again, he was.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Not a scientist.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
Say who's not either one of them? And uh, you
know it's just uh, you know, it's just absurd. But
I did want and before we close off hers, remind
everybody of my favorite app that you have designed. It
is available and easy to download, so you know, if
you've got questions, uh, and you're not immediately around then uh,
(46:23):
you know your app has just been such a benefit
to me and just being able to have rational conversations,
go ahead, Yeah it.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
Unfortunately, Bill, it's it's not available for Android users. It
was removed about a year and a half ago, and
we're not going to be still haven't put it back.
Huh No, and it's i'd like to you'd like I
don't think it's anything anything from nefarious. But we went
through some changes here. I put it together. We created
a limited liability corporation with the developer of the app.
(46:54):
I did the science and then I bought him out.
It's a free app, yes, but it's a free app.
But it's it's nothing nefarious on the part of Google.
Just it's just some technical legal things that's not going
to lust. But but I'm the good news is I'm
(47:15):
creating a new app very similar to this for the
CO two coalition, right, but I've got it's on my
to do list, but it's got a lot ahead of it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, well you got a bunch of do but inconvenient facts,
the science the al Gore doesn't want you to know
sixty inconvenient facts. See, I have my own copy as well. Well, yeah,
there you go. I tell you know, when you told
me about it, I put it on right away. It's
been with me. So I want our audience. So Apple
users obviously you can have access, but androids not. But
(47:47):
you know, for those of you that have Apple, this
is brilliant. It's good stuff, you know, that can help
balance out the misinformation that we've been bombarded with. Whether
it's from the United Nations or other interests that are
more Uh, it's more about control and power than it
is promoting the freedoms that that are enshrined in our constitution.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Gregor writes down they are, and I'll encourage anyone watching this.
You probably learned a few things, and if you want
to learn more, good bye. My book very convenient. If
you just search for two words convenient, warming, that'll take
your right to Amazon or my website. And then Chloe
the Clownfish. Just search for that Chloe seven bucks. Hey,
(48:30):
your child, grandchild, great grandchild, it will become his or
her favorite book very quickly. It's it's just wonderfully illustrated
in manga style. It's it's really so seven bucks. Come on,
you can afford it, Chloe the Clownfish. And then that's
cheap education. Let me tell you. Yeah, I can tell you.
(48:51):
My grandkids are chewing it up.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Man.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
They appreciate it. So did you get one for them?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, yeah, thank you very gay appreciate that. Well, Okay,
we got to leave it there, Gregor wry Stone again,
as we wrap things up, remind everybody of the website
to be in touch with you, and as we always
say on this show that look At you got to
own your own knowledge what we shared with you, As
Gregory said, hopefully it motivates you enough, you know, check
(49:16):
check it out for yourself and and verify what we're saying, uh,
because we can tell you quite clearly. And this is
why the the other side seems so quiet, whether it's
Retta Thurnberg or even Al Gore these days, is that
look At America is wising up to uh, to the
reality and the truth of real science, right it is.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
And the u ur L for the CO two Coalition
CO two Coalition dot org. GOO two Coalition And if
you're interested in homeschooling CO two Learningcenter dot com. CO
two Learningcenter dot com. Uh, you'll won't you'll you'll love
it that you can down three books for your grandchildren,
(50:02):
your children, go get it. And we need to educate
our children in American around the world are being indoctrinated
and indoctrinated into a climate cult. They're being taught group thinking,
consensus science. We want to teach them critical thinking skills exactly,
(50:23):
and they need to be able to know the scientific
method and what that is. Well, Gregor rights doone cannot
thank you enough. Great job.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
I appreciate all the great work you've been doing on
behalf of we the people, in bringing us the truth,
the whole truth, and nothing but Gregor Rightstone, the geologist
and climate contrarian for as long as he can be,
tells me, the executive director of CO two Coalition and
author of Inconvenient Facts. So we also have his new
book of very Convenient Warming. And let's not forget about
(50:53):
you know, Chloe. Yeah, monfish, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (50:57):
Greg. Thank you so much for being with us. Take care,
be well, my friend.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
All right, Thank you, Gregory wry Stone, and our thanks
thanks to you for sharing a part of your day
and being a part of the conversation here and for
more information on the show Bill Martinez live dot com.
Thank you so much. May God bless you and keep you.
May make his face shine upon you, May be gracious
unto you and give you His peace. God bless everyone.
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