June 16, 2025 • 52 mins
Carl Gallups, the former decorated law enforcement officer, prophecy expert, critically acclaimed Amazon Top 60 bestselling author, and Sr Pastor at Hickory Hammock Church in Florida goes one on one to discuss the latest news and "Where's God?" The chaos in the streets that defies common sense and Israel moves to protect its sovereignty against Iran. In spite of it all, we know God is in control...or we should know. Get ready for the whole truth and nothing but.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome Bill Martinez here. Good to have you.
We are live and we're going to be talking to
my very good friend Carl Galup. It's been a while
since we've had a chance to visit. I miss him
so much. He has been such a dear friend over
the years and just an encouragement. Carl is a former
decorated law enforcement officer, proft's the Expert, critically acclaimed Amazon
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Top sixty best selling authors, and senior pastor at Hickory
Hammock Church in Florida. Because he just doesn't have enough
to do, and so God keeps him busy and he's
so helpful to all of us. With his insights. So
in fact, I want to go ahead and bring him
on right away to talk about these things that are
happening in our culture. From these mostly peaceful riots in
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la and you know, we've had a little bit of
things that happened also in Chicago and New York, but
still mostly peaceful, kind of like what happened four years
ago with the Summer of Love, peaceful riots that generated
something like four billion dollars estimated in damage. And of
course also we'll take a look at what's happening in
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the Middle East and the prophetic implications that we may
be seeing here. And so I'm interested to get Carl
spin on this. Hey Carl, good afternoon. Good to have
you with us. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh Bill, I'm doing great, and it's great to be
back with you. I was beginning to wonder if I
if I would recognize you. I'm kidding, man, listen, thanks,
And I'm so glad that I speak starcasm, Otherwise I
would be wondering did we have a summer of these
full protests. I don't mostly if you miss I don't
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remember that exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, before we go there, I wanted to wish you
again a happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day over the weekend.
And I thought that these numbers unless you think that
fathers don't matter. According to the US Census Bureau, this
is US Department of Health and Human Services Center for
Disease Control and other Agencies, they report that children from
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fatherless homes, Karl, are five times more likely to live
in poverty, nine times more likely to drop out of school,
twenty times more likely to go to prison. There's a
higher risk of drug and alcohol abuse, and increase incidence
of internalized and externalized aggressive behavioral problems. I mean, that's
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a mouthful and it'll send you straight to the therapist
just that sentence alone. And also we have a greater
chance of runaways and homelessness. And also the other heartbreaking
number is twice as likely to commit suicide. This is
what's happening in the homes where a father is not there, Carl.
And I know you as a former law enforcement officer.
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You saw this all firsthand. So these numbers are not
a big surprise to you, are they.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
No, they're not. And I was going to say that,
but you just stole my thunder. So how about the
next question. No, I'm kidding. No, No, I was just
going to let your audience know if they didn't. And
I'm not so vain to think they all do. But
I've been the pastor of one church on the Gulf Coast.
I'm in my thirty ninth year there. Prior to that,
I spent ten years in Florida law enforcement, and most
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of that was with two different sheriff's offices under three
different sheriffs. So got a lot of experience at the
law enforcement level the ministerial pastoral level. Both of those
wind up, you know, dealing with the criminal part of
it as well as picking up the pieces left behind
from fatherless homes. And so, No, those statistics don't surprise me,
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but they've been around a long time. But it really
is ramping up in so many ways. It's really getting worse.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, there's been a cumulative effect that's happened over the
decades as we've discredited fathers and their importance in the household. Carl,
when you and I were growing up, remember father knows best.
And now we've gotten from I remember father knows best.
If father knows Bumpkus.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I know, I remember Andy of Mayberry. They would sit
on the front porch and sing hymns with their songs.
I mean at the end of the show, Andy and Barney.
I mean, you know, be so anyway, No, it's and
I know people laugh at that, say that's so old fashioned.
Well maybe so. But the point is is that most
of those shows would try to present some moral value
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or lessen to it, and then a lot of them,
as I I said, I had a little bit of
biblical element to it. Now, of course, we've got a
big nation and a lot of religions or no religion
at all, and our Constitution guarantees all that. So I
get all the arguments about that, but the point is
we've gone a long way downhill since then. Forget the
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singing of the hymns on the front porch and Father
knows best. But the bottom line is, listen, let me
just speak dash preach a little bit real quickly. This
is very spiritual what we're experiencing, and it's very biblical.
And by that I mean the Bible prophesied these kinds
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of things after the return of Israel to the land,
and I'm just saying, in those days between the return
of Israel and the eventual coming of the Lord himself,
Now I don't set dates. I'm not one of those guys.
But I'm just saying we're living in the most prophetic
time since the first coming of Jesus Christ. Now watch
the number one cause of death on the planet. You
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know what it is. It's abortion. Number one eighty to
one hundred million children every year are aborted. The top
ten causes of death globally don't even add up. No,
they don't come anywhere near that number. It's horrific. Okay,
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now follow me. Now, we don't know what a woman
is anymore. Ask our Supreme Court justice. We don't know
what a man is. We don't know what a marriage is.
We don't even know what a gender is. All of
these institutions were ordained by God himself in the garden
of Eden. Now listen, I come from a biblical worldview.
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Some of your audience may not. Please hang in here.
We've got a lot of other stuff to talk about.
But I'm just saying from a biblical worldview, none of
this surprises me at all, because God ordained marriage in
the garden of Eden. God ordained gender. In fact, that
Matthew nineteen verse four, Jesus is saying to the Pharisees
and the crowd. Do you not know? Do you not
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remember that God created marriage. He brought the man to
the woman. He brought that God created them male and female.
There's your gender, and that for that reason the man
would leave his mother and father and cling to his wife.
There's marriage. And let not man mess with this. And
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I'm using that word mess, but that's what Jesus said.
So look at the leftist agenda. And I'm not talking
politics right now. I'm not talking about Democrats and Republicans.
We've got people with R by their name that are
as liberal or more so than some with a D
by their name. I'm talking about the leftist those who
hate America. They hate American ideals, they hate that we
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were founded and grounded upon Judeo Christian principles. It's all
through our founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence, and yes,
the Constitution of somebody challenges me. I can help them
on that, But the bottom line is this is what
we're looking at. It's very prophetic, it's very biblical. It's
a downward slope of all of these institutions or dained
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by God, the womb, the child, everything exactly. But in
the Garden of Eden. Here's not started. Then I'm gonna hush.
But in Genesis three point fifteen, when Adam and Eve
partook of the sin with Satan, and God stepped into
the picture and he doled out his punishment if you
want to say, but they knew it was coming if
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they did this. But he said to the man and
the woman their deal. But watch this, But he says
to Satan himself. He says, from the womb of a
woman will come a male child that will destroy you,
crush your head, destroy your kingdom. Satan has been on
a rampage ever since then about the fruit of the womb,
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from a child and in the womb of a woman,
because that is Jesus on the cross, the resurrection. That's
what is destroying and has ultimately destroyed Satan's kingdom. That's
what this is all about. It is spiritual warfare. We're
watching it acted out all over the world. Thank you
for letting me say all that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, that's great. Well, I want to go back. I
love because you and I've talked about this. Some of
my most favorite sayings in the Bible starts at the
beginning in Genesis. In the beginning. God, I take people
to that all the time. That's that's our pivot point.
That's where we start in the beginning God. Now you
talk about how God had ordained marriage. What I love
about is how he punctuated it. Carl. He said, Wow,
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this is really good. He says, very good. Right, I mean,
everything's good throughout the creation process, but marriage He goes, ooh,
this is really good. And and of course you know
you got Adam. When he's presented with Eve, he in
essence says the same thing, right. He says, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah. Yeah. He looks at Eve and he says, whoa.
Oh man, that's where we get the word woman from.
Woe man. No, I'm kidding. I'm trying to be corny.
That's a dad's joke. Forgive me. It's Father's Day or
the day after. But anyway, No, you're right. God looked
at it all, including marriage, which was kind of the crowning,
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you know, impact upon that whole creation event, and he said, behold,
this is good, very good.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And everything was all set in order according to God Almighty,
not the Communists, not the Republican Party, not Donald Trump,
God Almighty himself put everything in perfect order, and then
we messed up. Adam and Eve decided they knew better
than God and they wanted to listen to the outside influence.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Go ahead, right, No, No, I didn't mean to interrupt.
I'm sorry. I thought you were finished. But no, I
agree with you completely. And one thing I want to
remind your audience it might help them. I say this
probably every other Sunday, and one way or the other
in I message, and I take certain principles that are
just eternal, and I repeat them often and sometimes I
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put them into cute little formats so that people can
kind of remember them. But one of the things that
I say that I think will help your audience, especially
as we watch Iran tacking. That's Persia, by the way,
attacking the return to Israel. As we're watching all the
insurrection and riots. Now, look at this Israel, the nation
that God used to bring the Word of God, the
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prophet of God, the prophecies of God, the Messiah of God,
the salvation event, the resurrection event, and the birth of
the Church event, and the giving of the Holy Spirit
of God event. That all came through Israel. That all
came through the people that God chose doesn't mean because
God chose them that they're perfect and they can do
no wrong. No, they live in the same sinful world
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we do. But He chose them to do all of
that to provide for your salvation and my salvation. And
neither one of us are Jewish, and so so the.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But we are, though, Carl, our roots, our roots are
found in Judaism. I know some well I'm not Jewish. Well,
actually we are. I mean, if you believe in the Messiah,
I mean all that leads up to the Messiah that
the Jews decided. They're just not there yet, but they
will be eventually. We took it to the next chapter,
you know, and we get the New Testament. Anyway, I
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wanted to I want to add this to what you
were saying. Okay, go ahead and finish your thought and
then I'll know.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, I was just gonna say, yeah, I was. I
had all that going through my mind, but I thought, well,
they don't want to hear me preach for forty five minutes. So,
but the Bible actually says that all of us who
are believers in your Shua of the Hebrew word for Jesus,
we are children of Abraham. We are grafted in, Paul
says in Romans eleven, to the vine, to the branch,
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to the olive tree, which is Israel. And ultimately Jesus
Christ himself gentiles Jews together, Paul says, and Ephesians too
become the one new Man. So yeah, in that sense,
we can say we are all Israel if we are
in Jesus Christ. Which watch this talking about all the
downward think about the denominations now the whole denomination. And
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then a lot of independent pulpits hate the Jews. They're
trashing Israel. I mean, it's like, how can you say
that you're a born again believer, that you stand on
the word of God, and you say we hate the Jews,
we hate Israel when fifty times from Deuteronomy to Zachariah,
the Old Testament prophesies the return of Israel in the
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last days, and it says God says, I'm doing this
to show the world that I alone am God, and
that you will note that it's getting very close and
very soon. So this is why I started by saying,
we're living in such biblical spiritual times. And remember, folks,
people that are listening and watching the Word of God,
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that Bill and I are quoting that thinks over three
thousand years of The newest book in there is Revelation,
and that's two thousand years old. The other books before
it were a thousand years before that are hundreds and hundreds.
Yet it speaks to our day. We're the only generation
to see the return of Israel. We're the only generation
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to see Iran Persian, all these nations uniting now to attack.
We're the only generation that has seen an exponential explosion
of technology. Now we're into quantum computing and AI and
everything else. Nuclear technology is on the table today. All
of that was prophesied in the Word of God, Old
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and New Testament. If I had time, I could prove it.
Go to the scriptures and show everybody in the original
languages what those words mean and the nuances of them
and everything that we're living in. No generation before us
has ever lived in it. Yet the Bible two thousand
to three thousand years ago said this is going to happen.
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I don't know what to tell people that to just
roll their eyes at that, say, well, that's your opinion. No,
it's written in black and white three years ago, and
we're watching it with our eyes. How can that be
my opinion. I'm just reporting on what's happening.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh brother, what other God has done that?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And the other thing to God says.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I wanted to share with you an author that I've
talked with a couple of times. He's very prominent in
the Catholic circles, has had direct relationships with the most
recent popes, well several of the popes from twenty third,
Pope John the twenty third and now with Pope Leo.
And he said something the other day when we were
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talking that really made so much sense to me that
sometimes what happens is apologists, as Christians and believers in Jesus,
that we're quick to tell people no. First we lead
with a no, you know, no, you're not supposed to
do that. No, you're not supposed to do that. But
what we need to connect is kind of what you
were referring to earlier, and that's what brought the up
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is that all our nose are preceded by an emphatic
yes from God Almighty. And when we understand, just like
you were saying, it's not hey, it's not us saying
God forbid that it would be the word of Bill
Martinez or Carl gallops, Yes, we're falling, we're failed people. No,
it is from God Almighty himself, the one who created
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this popcorn stand. And you know what, it's a pretty
neat popcorn stand when you think about it, even in
the mess that it is. But you know, eventually, soon
and very soon, that will all be redeemed, and you know,
and that's what we all look forward to. But unless
you're aware of what's going on, don't just take our
word from it. It's like Carl says, do your own study,
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own your own knowledge, don't just take our word for it.
But we're here to tell you this because look at
we've been on this planet for several decades. I'm not
going to give you an exact number, but we've been
here enough to make our series of mistakes and lessons
that we've learned. And guess what, we don't want you
to do the same thing. And it's just like the
law of gravity. You defy gravity, there's consequences there. So
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we were telling you you're heading for a cement wall.
And it's real clear because you know, we've got what
about two thirds of what God had prophesied in the
Bible has been fulfilled at one thousand percent, still maybe
about a third, Maso menos, still yet to be fulfilled.
And so the question I ask is, what do you
think about God's batting average? You think he's still going
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to bat one thousand percent on that last third. I'm
willing to bet on that, Carl.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I think probably more than
two thirds, Maso menos. That's cute. Wow wow wow. Okay,
But anyway, No, you and I played with the Spanish
all the time, and we're both blessed to speak a
little bit of it. But anyway, uh no, And what
I was saying a moment ago, and you didn't interrupt me,
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I just forgot to say the big point, and that
is I tell my congregation all the time when you
look around at the world and you see what's happening.
You know, the Bible says Jesus said, look, peace be still,
even though you walk through the valley of the shadow
of death, you fear no evil. I am with you,
all right, that's twenty third Psalm. But I tell them
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all the time saying, look, we are living in Satan's world.
Jesus called him the god little g of this age.
So what age is coming next, Oh, the age of
Jesus returning, putting his feet on the Mount of Olives,
the great White Throne being set up, the new heaven
and the new Earth. That you know, people say, well,
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how can that be? God created the first heaven and
the first earth by commanding it, Let there be, Let
there be, and the angels worshiped him when they saw it.
I think we're going to see something similar when it
all culminates. We will be those that are born again
in your Showahamashiah, Jesus Christ. We will be there and
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we will see it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But in the meantime, can you imagine that, Carl, I mean,
we weren't there with the first creation, but at the
second creation, we're going to be there with all the
angels who saints and watch God in his glory. Just
speak it into existence, I mean yeah, and you talk
about blown away.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Right yeah, and beyond and beyond whatever, because it'll be
forever for us. And so it's just whatever God does.
I mean, the Bible doesn't necessarily say this, but for example,
just to think, what if it creates more universes and
allows us to do kind of like with the angels. Now,
as the angels minister to our generation. I mean, we
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don't know what we don't know. God has not told
us everything, but He's told us everything we need to
know to become redeemed, to rejoin Him in the creation
that it was meant to be. But it allows us
to make choices. We're not robots, puppets on a string.
We're not animals that operate by instinct. We are made
in God's image. And so the deal is, when we look,
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we see we are living in Satan's world. We're listening. Listen.
Revelation twelve says it like this. In verse twelve, it says, look, uh,
woe unto you Earth in these last days, woe unto you?
And that earth means the people that live on it,
he says, because because and woe means you know how pitiful,
and you know and be warned, and judgment is coming.
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That's what it means, woe on the earth, because Satan
has been thrown down and he's filled with rage and
he knows his time is short. But before that, in
verse eleven, it says, but they speaking of God's children,
because that's the context of that. He says, but they
overcame him during that time by the blood of the
Lamb and the word of their testimony. So that is
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we stand in the Word. We fix our eyes on
Jesus first, make sure we are born again biblically speaking,
and then we get on with life. And people say, well, listen,
why are we having to live in satan? Because it's
the way the whole COSMOSI is moving. But here's the deal.
The Bible says, we are ambassadors for His coming kingdom.
We are to represent the word of God for those
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that need to hear it. We're the prophets, the priests,
the preachers, the pastors, the witnesses, if you will. And
it literally says we are to be his ambassador. So exactly,
our life has purpose and meaning. We don't look at
what's happening and say, oh my gosh, what's happening. We
can never get world peace, we can never stop wars
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in the Middle East, we can never stop rioting in
the United States. But yeah, I know who can though,
the one that my faith is in Jesus Christ. So
that's the way I live my life. The Bible says
to live it that way, and he says, look, your
reward's coming. He says your mind cannot conceive, your ear
has never hurt, your eyes never seen what lies ahead
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for those that know and love the Lord.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, and you say, by the blood of the Lamb,
just like the Jews Uh before the Exodus, Right, it
was by the blood of that Lamb that they had
they had to have faith in.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It starts with faith, by the blood of the Lamb.
You've got to have faith that that's that's enough.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know, in fact, there's a oh, there's a scene.
I don't know if you've seen The Chosen yet the
new series.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I watched all of it but the very last season,
and I'm getting we're getting ready to start the last
season now, but yes.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Is about ready to go there. And what happens is
that it's called the Day. I think it's called the Dane.
You you might know it better than I do. It's
a prayer that is said during the Passover. And I'll
tell it so touched me because they prayed said, had
God only came, UH came to save the people out
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of bondage, that would have been enough. Had God taken
us through through the Red Sea and saved us from
Pharaoh's army, that would have been enough. Had God taken
us through, you know, the forty years in the desert
and provided for us, that would have been enough. I mean,
it's such a beautiful prayer. Carl and I think about
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even in our own lives, that you could go and
look at benchmarks in our own lives and say, you know,
if God took me from darkness into that, would that
would have been enough. The other stuff's just cherry on
the cake kind of deal. And it is such a
touching moment. So when you see this, you'll know what
I'm talking about. It's part of this new season that's
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that's going to be coming up. I think I think
it's I think it's released on Prime video. They start
to release it and where you can see it for free.
I believe it starts this week the Josen But you'll you'll, you'll.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I saw it last night. I think it's on Amazon
or Netflix. I was scrolling through and there it is,
and I went and checked and all the episodes are
there and they're already part of one of those. Yeah,
if you're subscribed to one of those, whichever one it was,
then there for so yeah, I think they're very well done.
Then people argue and debate, we can talk about all
the ins and outs of the Chosen, but overall I think.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very well in the general context. But again, going
back to what you were saying, the blood of the lamb,
you have to have faith. It takes faith in the
blood of the lemon, just like it took faith for
the Jews to say, oh, hey, okay, well all right,
we're supposed sacrifice this lam put the blood over the lamb,
and then you know, then they saw the fulfillment of
their faith when all the other children of Pharaoh's family
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and all the non Jews they lost their eldest son,
you know, to the plague. Okay, then you say the
testimony of your mouth, Well, the testimony is an experiential response.
It is based on what your senses have realized and
your walk with God over time, so that you know
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that you know, so that when Satan comes to you
and said, hey, Carl, did God really say, Well, not
only did he say it, let me tell he did it?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And listen,
let me give back to where I was going, because
I had a little conclusion that will help people understand
what's going on. In the world and why it is
spiritual warfare. We are living in Satan's age. God Jesus
calls him the god of this age. He calls him
the Prince of this world. Okay, so this world system,
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this age system. But he's not the god in prince.
He's not Malekchamelechim, the king of Kings, He's not that.
Satan is not that, but the Lord Jesus is so.
So in that same chapter Revelation twelve, which is the
middle of the Book of Revelation, and it's this, it's this.
It goes all the way back to Genesis in the
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Garden of Eden when it talks about the serpent, and
then it says, who is the devil is looking to
kill that male child. He's wanting to destroy that child
that was prophesied. And so where did the child come from?
Eventually through the seat of Abraham, which developed the nation
of Israel. Eventually he came to the nation of Israel.
So but at the end of chapter twelve, it goes
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on to say, and he's thrown down to the earth.
He's filled with rage. He knows his time is short.
That's what we're watching, Bill. And then it says, therefore,
he has gone off in those last days to make
war against the woman that gave birth to the child. Now,
people say, well, the virgin Mary is now here. No, no, no,
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the woman is Israel. That's the ultimate woman that births
the child that brings salvation to the world. And Revelation
twelve actually says that, but anyway, let me keep going.
He will go off to make war against the woman.
Look what's happening today the last several days, for the
last seventies almost eighty years that Israel's been back in
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the Middle East. It's war against Israel, the nations that everybody,
the Islamic nations and other nations. And so he says,
he goes off to make war against them, and those
who hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ. Well, those
are born again believers. Now some of those are Jews,
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most of them right now are Gentiles. But watch this.
So he's mainly saying the Church. And we're not talking
about an institution, a Baptist or Catholic or Methodists. We're
talking about born again believers, the Church, the body of Christ.
He makes war against the woman Israel. He makes war
against born again believers. Now look the attack and the
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hatred for Israel is through the roof. Look at the
attack and the hatred for America. Now we are not
just like Israel is not a nation full of perfect,
God loving people. Neither is America. But God has used
and blessed America to birth and to protect the Jews
when they were under a persecution, and also born again believers.
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There are more people in the United States who profess
to be born again Believers than in any other singular
nation on the planet. Now, if people say, yeah, but
half those people that profess it, they're not really Christians,
I will say you're probably right, But that ought to
tell you something. Eight billion people on the planet, only
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two billion claim to be Christians. Cut that in half,
and you might have one eighth of the world's population,
maybe maybe not that much that are true born again believers.
And I'm not the judge of that. I'm just saying
what the statistics says and what the Bible says. And
so when you think about that's what we're watching, that
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Satan is coming against America. He knows we stand with Israel.
We stand in the way of the nations attacking Israel.
We stand as a nation. We have taken more Christian
benevolence to the world than any other nation. We've spread
the Gospel to all the nations more than any other
singular nation. We have the most freedom in America, especially
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freedom of war worship. I mean, I've been passion of
this church for thirty nine years. The government can't shut
us down. Some of them have tried. People can't. So
the bottom line is we're watching it. This is what's
going on in the world exactly, and only the Bible
says this. No exact book in the world says the
things you and I have been saying.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Carl Gallups is with his former decorated law enforcement officer,
prophecy expert, pretty critically acclaimed top sixty best selling author
and senior pastor at Hickory Hammock Church in Florida. Carl,
as you say, we can see it with our own eyes,
but you know what's happening. It's interesting on the internet
right now, there's this saying amongst Black Americans. They call
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it black fatigue. And I thought it was interesting because
I thought it was far reaching. I mean, even though
it's expressed in the black community, and what it is
is that people are just getting frustrated and worn out
over I guess for lack of a better word. And
my dad, if he heard me say it, he'd be
knocking me on the head because he hated whenever. He
literally hated whenever I would occasionally slip and refer to
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something as being stupid. But this is what happens. We've
as a result of this fallen world and where we
are right now and the accommodation of all this silliness
has going on, we've kind of rendered ourselves stupid and
and what's happening in the process. Black America is seeing it,
and they're saying they're they're Black fatigue because they're tired
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and fed up of dealing with this silliness that is
anti God. It defies common sense, and on and on,
and I said, you know, I was telling my wife,
I go, this extends beyond the black is white. This
is Mexicans, you know, Hispanics, you know, Christians, non Christians.
And I'm and I'm reminded again of what the Word
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says in Galatians six. You know, let us not become
weary in doing good right. We need to stay focused
on these things that God has revealed to us and
stay faithful to that, to continue to fight that good fight,
because it's not going to be a cakewalk, is it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
No, No, it's not. And that's the whole point of
the perspective that I was giving, because if we lose
that perspective that this is Satan's world, we are ambassadors
in it. Satan is purposely attacking Israel and the United
States purposely if you can bring down those two entities.
Satan owns the world. I mean he does, and he
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knows it. So don't grow weary even though we're walking
through the valley of the shadow of death. Jesus, there's
fear no evil, for I am with you. My rod
and my staff they comfort you. And so so that's
the perspective. I take a biblical worldview. That's how I
live my life. I'm honored that God would allow me
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to live in these days. Some people say, oh no,
they're frightening days. Listen, there's never been a generation on
the face of the earth since the Garden of Eden
that hasn't had abject evil injected into it. Look at
all the wars, look at all the barbarianism that went on,
Look at all just think of the whole world's structure
since the flood. There's never been a perfect place to
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live or a perfect world. No earthquakes, no tornadoes, no hurricanes,
no you know, volcanoes. Has never been the whole earth,
the whole creation groans waiting for the restoration of all things.
The Bible says that we're living here. And so people say,
when I say I'm honored to live in this time,
people say, well, how can that be? I wish I
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lived in the old days. Which old days, the old
days of segregate segregation and KKK and civil wars or
even the Revolutionary War. Everybody we killed each other on
our front lawns. I mean, what are you talking about?
So I'm honored that God has put you and me
together in the day of technology. We can speak to
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the world now, brother, and no generation before us has
been able to do this. And we wouldn't even know
each other if we had lived fifty sixty years ago,
we wouldn't have had the technology or the reason to
even know each other. Now we're dear brothers and dear friends.
We've eaten together, we've visited together, We've been with each other.
And so I'm just saying why would God choose us?
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I don't know. I mean, glory to him. I know
it's not me, and I know it's not you. I
know you real well, it's not you. It is the
Lord and his grace and his mercy. And if God's
people could just think this way or something like it.
I'm not saying you have to think like me, but
think like what the word of God says. To give
him praise, give him thanksgiving, and understand if you're under
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the blood, God's got this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, really exactly, And with all this going on, I
can appreciate how people could get weary and end up,
you know, battle fatigue. Over all that's happening in the culture.
You know, we talked about LA and what's happening in
Los Angeles and particularly with law enforcement in that, and
I hear some of these celebrities. In fact, there was
a Dodger baseball player talking about how offended he was
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in a sense and characterizing, you know, what was going
on with the immigrants there. And my first thought was, well, Kiki,
that's fine, but when was the last time you got
your rear end down into the streets of LA right
there in the middle of those riots and talk to
the people to find out who they are, you know,
and because we're finding out and again you with your
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law enforcement background, it's not the it's not the Los Angelinos. Yeah,
there's a little bit of them involved, but you've got
outside they're saying the CCP, you know, organize signage and
all this stuff, people being paid that you know, the
communist Chinese are involved in orchestrating this stuff. This is
all a narrative that is being thrust out. But it's
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easy to get caught up in the wave of emotion
and you speak unintelligently because you know, you and I
have a responsibility with the platform that God has rendered
to us, and that is that we need to be
response orators and people who have done their work in
research so that we encourage people based on the truth,
not just on sentiment. Because God is truth, and this
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is why He's put us in this position, because you
and I are committed to his truth. Even though Ponscious
Pilot himself said, well what is truth? Well, you and I,
by God's grace and mercy, not that we know it perfectly,
but we know it a lot better than he did
at that time. He was right, and we know truth.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, we know the truth, but Jesus said he is
the truth, and then we've got his word. And so
you're right. Neither of us do the truth perfectly all
the time, but our hearts desire us to do that,
and God gives us the Holy Spirit to enable us
to please him. So that's the good gift He's given
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us through salvation, because otherwise we wouldn't even want to
do it. As we look at the world, most of
the world doesn't want to do any of that. They
laugh at us, they scoff and mock. But the thing is,
just remember, look at all of the deceit, the hypocrisy,
the duplicity that's involved in everything. Listen the insurrection of
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twenty twenty sixteen or twenty yeah, twenty exe. When was
twenty twenty twenty twenty yeah, twenty sixteen, this one, yeah,
the insurrection. Listen just yesterday, just yesterday, these rioters stormed
the capitol and they were burning heaps of trash on
it and everything, and I mean the police had to
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come in. They were trying to break into the capitol,
and there were no Capitol police saying yes, come in,
come in, like there was on January sixth, and I mean,
where's the insurrection? You know, people say, wait a minute,
we had people locked away in the dungeons of the
Capitol Building in Washington, D C. Because of the Trump
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election loss and all of that, and they called that insurrection. Well, now,
real insurrection is happening, going to ice government buildings in
the in the West, in Oregon and Portland and everywhere
in Los Angeles and trying to burn them down and
shooting incendiary devices and attacking the police. That is the
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very definition of insurrection. Well, why is it okay for
them to do it? But if we do something that
even doesn't even come close to that, you know, we're
putting dungeons under the well. The hypocrisy is astounding. But listen,
we're living in Satan's world. We should not be surprised
by that. We should fight against it. We should vote,
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maybe even run for office. Whatever. Pray, keep our eyes
on Jesus, but we're not going to fix this into
a perfect paradise. We're not the Lord is, but we
are ambassadors. We've got a whole true, we've got to
stay the course. God has got this through Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Carl prophetically speaking, let's address what's happening right now in
the Middle East with the war between Israel and Iran directly.
We've been saying this for a long time. You and
I discussed this years ago, that there was no way
that Israel could tolerate Iran going nuclear. And it was
not just it was not just Israel, but all the
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other Arab nations. The United States not tolerate the world
could not tolerate Iran going nuclear. They've already demonstrated who
they are. They're terrorists, and so you can't empower them.
And why Barack Obama in a million years would set
up some sort of program to be able to tell us, oh,
they're not going to go nuclear, but yet set up
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a program where they could go nuclear.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Listen, his chief of staff was born and raised in Iran,
the woman I can't remember her name. I mean, he's
so connected to all.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Of that, Walari Jarrett, you're telling Valarie Jarrett, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yes, yeah, he's so connected to the Islamic world in
so many ways. And I'm not trashing Islamic people. I mean,
you know a lot of them just want to live
their lives. Now, what happens when they stand before the
Lord is up to them. We will love them, give
them the truth. But if they don't accept it, I mean,
I'm not going to hate them and try to kill them.
But when you look at it, Barack Obama was tied
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to all of that. He listened to New York Times,
lauded him during Arab Spring, gave him credit for inciting that.
They thought that was so cool until it kind of
backfired on them in so many ways. Then all of
a sudden it was well, no, they just they were
just watching it and cheering on the good ones. And
you know, New York Times, I mean, that's a joke now.
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But anyway, I'm just saying, I know what I'm talking about.
I've written all this, I've researched it, I've gone to
all the credible references and even the mainstream media sites,
and I stay away from the back channel of conspiracy stuff.
And you've read some of my books and you know
that I do this, and so I know what I'm
talking about. So so we watch all of that, and
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the connections to that are unbelievable. But even Benjamin Nettnyaw,
who has said recently to the Iranian people, he said, look,
our battle's.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Not with you.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
It's with these idiots that run your nation. It's when
they're they're they're crazy. And he said, we know that
most of you want to live in peace, educate your children,
go to work, live your life. But you can't. You can't.
And and so they're threatening Israel, they're threatening the world,
they're threatening the United States, and we're not going to
tolerate it. You guys have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So they have, they have been, carl they have been
knowing it, got inside forces that have been moving in
that direction as well. And I think that's one of
the reasons why. Also Donald Trump said do not assassinate
the Ayatola.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yes, and this is why because of the connection with
Barack Obama. And I'm not saying he's the most evil
person in the world. I mean, look what we just
went through with Joe Biden. Good gracious he shipped money
over to Iran as well. Obama dropped it off on
the tarmac, billions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
In claiming that this Martin knows, and he claimed.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
This is going to help us make sure they don't
have nuclear weapons in what world? Well, he knew what
he was doing. He was not stupid. He double talking, duplicity, dupliciousness.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So he's funded he funded Hamas, the hoodies and Hespela.
That's what actually, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Absolutely so he's tied to all of this. He just
is I'm sorry. I know people don't like it. They say, well,
you're being political. No I'm not. I'm just calling out
the person who is obviously connected to it all. At
that time, he was the most powerful man on the
planet because he's the President of the United States. That's
why they hate Donald Trump. That's why they couldn't believe
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he won. In twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton, Obama's secretary of State,
was supposed to win that according to them, Uh right,
So a million to one, a million to one on
a billionaire architect and builder winds up beating the former
secretary of State and the former first Lady and on
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and on, a lawyer and all of this. He beats them.
But you know, and so the next election they had
to make sure he didn't go back in because you know,
the second term of a sitting president can be the
most powerful because they can't run anymore anyway. They don't
have to bow down to the political you know, thrones.
They can basically do under the law. Of course that
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doesn't mean anything to the left, but under the law
they can get things done. Well they surely they tried
to listen, brother, when they took the election. And I'm
just gonna say that, I believe with all my heart
that that election was messed with. And if I'm wrong,
I'm just wrong, and I apologize you.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And over sixty percent of America according to Gallup and Rasmus.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, well, and I'm just so probably most of our
audience would agree with me, but I'm just gonna say it.
That's my opinion, and your audience does not have to
agree with me. But they had to get they had
to keep him from going into that second term. Now,
when they had that four years of Biden in look
what they did. Most of it was attacking Trump and
trying to arrest him, getting put in prison, keeping him
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tied up in courts, and excuse the pun, but trumping
up charges on him continually. And then they in the end,
somebody asked, hey, they I'm not saying the Democrat National Committee,
but somebody tried to put a bullet in his head.
They did hit him in the head. He just happened
to turn his head just a little bit. Had he not,
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we were to watch live that bullet go right through
his temple exactly. They were just thirsty for his blood
to keep him out. Well, so he runs and they
tried to put him in prison. They couldn't do that.
They tried to turn the public against him, they couldn't
do that, And so they tried. Somebody tried to kill
him and couldn't do that twice actually, and then he
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finally stands for election and they're trashing him in trashing him.
Of course, who are they going to pull up Kamala Harris?
And they pulled Biden out of the way because they
knew he couldn't do it, and they were hoping, maybe
be Kamala can do it. Didn't even come close. Now
they really hate him and they're terrified of him, terrified
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because now he has his hands on the information and
the lever that pulls the power, the most powerful lever
in the world. And he's a friend of Israel, and
so Iran is erupting, China's erupting, Russia's erupting. I mean,
this is spiritual warfare at its most biblical. We're watching
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it happen.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, it's exciting. Times that we live in. We've got
about four minutes left here, Carl gallups. And so my
question to you is, and I believe this with all
my heart, Israel's going to take down Iran, and so
are we Are we going to enter into that period
prophetically where Israel then starts to be living without walls
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and in peace, which is the next step in the
prophetic timeline.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Right. Well maybe, so that's a part of Ezekiel thirty
seven and then thirty eight and thirty nine. But I
don't really take that walls thing to mean. I mean
maybe afterward, yes, of course, at the return of the Lord. Sure,
But the point is, if you just watch look at
thirty seven, it prophesies the return of Israel to the land.
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One of the fifty that do that chapter goes very
deep Isaiah forty nine, very deep. And then Ezekiel thirty
eight says, when they're in the land, secure and strong,
and they are the number one superpower of the Middle East.
Of course they got America backing them and Britain backing them,
so you put all that together, they are they just are.
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Look what they're doing single handedly taking on Iran, and
I mean they're bringing Iran to its knees, and Russia's trembling,
China's trembling. They're going, what in the world is happening
here that's not supposed to happen. Well, the Lord God
is with that nation, he said in Ezekiel thirty eight
he would be. But now I think that Ezekiel thirty
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eight that you know God and may God will be
with them. Most scholars think that's Russia, But now a
lot of modern scholars think, not only is it Russia,
it's all the Asian nations in that area, Russia, the
Stan nations, the old Soviet Union, part of that, Iran, Turkey,
all of that. And then it says Persia will be
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with them. Will Persia is Iran? Until nineteen thirty five,
every globe and map said Persia. Now it says Iran,
it's going to be with them. And then the Northern
Africa and the Eastern African part of nations of Africa
continent are going to be with them. And we already
see those coalitions building. And as a fact, Jonathan Khan
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has done some research on every one of those nations
that are listed in Ezekiel thirty eight. If they're not
directly involved with Iran, they are at least indirectly by
financing stuff, by getting them finances to them and every
one of them. And we don't have time to do
all that. So the bottom line is they are a
land without walls and gates in that they've been like
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the United States. I mean, we've got walls and gates
around the United States, but basically we don't. We live free.
We go anywhere we want, we get on our car,
we drive from one end to the other. We go
to church, or we don't go to church. We don't
have walls and gates. Israel has been living the same way,
but in that time when they're strong, one of the
biggest tech leaders on the planet, they've only been alive
(47:41):
as a nation for seventy five six years exactly. Now
they're attacking. Now it's beginning. And I'm not saying that
this is the culmination of the Ezekiel thirty eight prophecies,
but I say to people, it's at least the beginning stages.
It's setting up. But there's not.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And again we're looking at the benchmarks, and here's another
benchmark to look at this, saying, hey, who would have
thunk right? And so here, and then on top of that,
you got the Abraham Accords, and you got to know
those surrounding Arab nations around Israel, they are, if not overtly,
they're secretly cheering on Israel to make sure that they
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wipe out Iran because they're no friend in ally with
their run.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
No, no, you're right, because that goes to the denominationalism
of Islam. The she Heites and the Sunnis most of
the Islamic nations around around Israel or Sunni Sunni led
or major population, but Iran Sheite all the way through
one of the most radical branches. So yeah, they fear
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them too. But the bottom line is we are watching
Ezekiel thirty eight build and build and build. I don't know.
I mean, they're all kinds of scenarios, allalk into his guests. Now,
this is not the word of God. But is me
speaking from the word of God exactly?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, So what I mean all of this, Let's say
Israel goes in just defeat around and everybody goes, Okay,
we've got it, world peace according to the Word of God.
Probably not Probably they're going to come back, and or
is going to come with them, and or these other
nations are going to come and then they're going to
attack Israel again. They're going to surround Jerusalem, the Bible says.
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But here's what the Bible also said. I just want
to let folks know. It says about a minute.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
We got about a minute left here, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, thank you, that God himself will supernaturally intervene so
that the nations will see the hand of God, not
military might, but the hand of God. He will divert
that whole thing. He will destroy it. He will destroy
Israel's enemies that have attacked, and that they will mourn
and weep, but Israel will still be standing. It will
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be safe because they are God's people. They are God's
monument to his glory. So I'm telling you the rest
of the world that thinks are going to to defeat Israel,
they're in for a long hard lesson.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Well soon and very soon, Carl. How exciting is this?
I mean, we are on the verge of Maranatha. Come, Jesus, Come,
and every day we get closer and closer to that reality.
I can only hope and pray, like Simeon when he
saw Jesus in the temple, that we would see the
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salvation of the Lord for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, that would be amazing, and I think we're very
close to it. Again, we don't set dates, but when
you look at everything else we've been talking about, it
sure is getting close. According to God's word.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Again, the message for you, ladies and gentlemen is to
take what we're saying. Don't just take it just from us.
You need to own your own knowledge, do your own research. Hopefully,
God willing, We've encourage you to look into the word
of God and do your research for yourself and let
it be your own knowledge. Carl, thank you. I appreciate
you for coming on the show. As always, you're such
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a dear friend.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh it's my honor. And I'll just quote Romans ten
to nine. If you would confess with your mouth at
Jesus Christ's Lord and believe in your heart that God
raised him from the dead, then you shall be saved.
That's what we call being born again in getting under
the blood. And if that's the case, God's got it.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, and welcome to the family. You got it, Carl,
Thank you so much. Carl gallis a former decorated law
enforcement officer prophs the expert and critically acclaimed Amazon top
sixty best selling author Ladys Gentlemen, thank you so much
for sharing a part of your day with us. Hopefully
it was a blessing for you, and as I said
that it encourages you to, you know, do your own
research and check out for yourself and how the Holy
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Spirit is leading you to the truth, because that's what
God wants. He wants us to understand with wisdom of
what He is doing in these times, and that we're
not to fret or grow weary in doing good. May
God bless you and keep you. May make His face
shine upon you. He'd be gracious unto you and give
you his peace. God blessed. Thanks for being with us,
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome Bill Martinez here. Good to have you.
We are live and we're going to be talking to
my very good friend Carl Galup. It's been a while
since we've had a chance to visit. I miss him
so much. He has been such a dear friend over
the years and just an encouragement. Carl is a former
decorated law enforcement officer, proft's the Expert, critically acclaimed Amazon
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Top sixty best selling authors, and senior pastor at Hickory
Hammock Church in Florida. Because he just doesn't have enough
to do, and so God keeps him busy and he's
so helpful to all of us. With his insights. So
in fact, I want to go ahead and bring him
on right away to talk about these things that are
happening in our culture. From these mostly peaceful riots in
(01:20):
la and you know, we've had a little bit of
things that happened also in Chicago and New York, but
still mostly peaceful, kind of like what happened four years
ago with the Summer of Love, peaceful riots that generated
something like four billion dollars estimated in damage. And of
course also we'll take a look at what's happening in
(01:40):
the Middle East and the prophetic implications that we may
be seeing here. And so I'm interested to get Carl
spin on this. Hey Carl, good afternoon. Good to have
you with us. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh Bill, I'm doing great, and it's great to be
back with you. I was beginning to wonder if I
if I would recognize you. I'm kidding, man, listen, thanks,
And I'm so glad that I speak starcasm, Otherwise I
would be wondering did we have a summer of these
full protests. I don't mostly if you miss I don't
(02:15):
remember that exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, before we go there, I wanted to wish you
again a happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day over the weekend.
And I thought that these numbers unless you think that
fathers don't matter. According to the US Census Bureau, this
is US Department of Health and Human Services Center for
Disease Control and other Agencies, they report that children from
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fatherless homes, Karl, are five times more likely to live
in poverty, nine times more likely to drop out of school,
twenty times more likely to go to prison. There's a
higher risk of drug and alcohol abuse, and increase incidence
of internalized and externalized aggressive behavioral problems. I mean, that's
(03:00):
a mouthful and it'll send you straight to the therapist
just that sentence alone. And also we have a greater
chance of runaways and homelessness. And also the other heartbreaking
number is twice as likely to commit suicide. This is
what's happening in the homes where a father is not there, Carl.
And I know you as a former law enforcement officer.
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You saw this all firsthand. So these numbers are not
a big surprise to you, are they.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
No, they're not. And I was going to say that,
but you just stole my thunder. So how about the
next question. No, I'm kidding. No, No, I was just
going to let your audience know if they didn't. And
I'm not so vain to think they all do. But
I've been the pastor of one church on the Gulf Coast.
I'm in my thirty ninth year there. Prior to that,
I spent ten years in Florida law enforcement, and most
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of that was with two different sheriff's offices under three
different sheriffs. So got a lot of experience at the
law enforcement level the ministerial pastoral level. Both of those
wind up, you know, dealing with the criminal part of
it as well as picking up the pieces left behind
from fatherless homes. And so, No, those statistics don't surprise me,
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but they've been around a long time. But it really
is ramping up in so many ways. It's really getting worse.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Well, there's been a cumulative effect that's happened over the
decades as we've discredited fathers and their importance in the household. Carl,
when you and I were growing up, remember father knows best.
And now we've gotten from I remember father knows best.
If father knows Bumpkus.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I know, I remember Andy of Mayberry. They would sit
on the front porch and sing hymns with their songs.
I mean at the end of the show, Andy and Barney.
I mean, you know, be so anyway, No, it's and
I know people laugh at that, say that's so old fashioned.
Well maybe so. But the point is is that most
of those shows would try to present some moral value
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or lessen to it, and then a lot of them,
as I I said, I had a little bit of
biblical element to it. Now, of course, we've got a
big nation and a lot of religions or no religion
at all, and our Constitution guarantees all that. So I
get all the arguments about that, but the point is
we've gone a long way downhill since then. Forget the
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singing of the hymns on the front porch and Father
knows best. But the bottom line is, listen, let me
just speak dash preach a little bit real quickly. This
is very spiritual what we're experiencing, and it's very biblical.
And by that I mean the Bible prophesied these kinds
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of things after the return of Israel to the land,
and I'm just saying, in those days between the return
of Israel and the eventual coming of the Lord himself,
Now I don't set dates. I'm not one of those guys.
But I'm just saying we're living in the most prophetic
time since the first coming of Jesus Christ. Now watch
the number one cause of death on the planet. You
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know what it is. It's abortion. Number one eighty to
one hundred million children every year are aborted. The top
ten causes of death globally don't even add up. No,
they don't come anywhere near that number. It's horrific. Okay,
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now follow me. Now, we don't know what a woman
is anymore. Ask our Supreme Court justice. We don't know
what a man is. We don't know what a marriage is.
We don't even know what a gender is. All of
these institutions were ordained by God himself in the garden
of Eden. Now listen, I come from a biblical worldview.
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Some of your audience may not. Please hang in here.
We've got a lot of other stuff to talk about.
But I'm just saying from a biblical worldview, none of
this surprises me at all, because God ordained marriage in
the garden of Eden. God ordained gender. In fact, that
Matthew nineteen verse four, Jesus is saying to the Pharisees
and the crowd. Do you not know? Do you not
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remember that God created marriage. He brought the man to
the woman. He brought that God created them male and female.
There's your gender, and that for that reason the man
would leave his mother and father and cling to his wife.
There's marriage. And let not man mess with this. And
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I'm using that word mess, but that's what Jesus said.
So look at the leftist agenda. And I'm not talking
politics right now. I'm not talking about Democrats and Republicans.
We've got people with R by their name that are
as liberal or more so than some with a D
by their name. I'm talking about the leftist those who
hate America. They hate American ideals, they hate that we
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were founded and grounded upon Judeo Christian principles. It's all
through our founding documents, including the Declaration of Independence, and yes,
the Constitution of somebody challenges me. I can help them
on that, But the bottom line is this is what
we're looking at. It's very prophetic, it's very biblical. It's
a downward slope of all of these institutions or dained
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by God, the womb, the child, everything exactly. But in
the Garden of Eden. Here's not started. Then I'm gonna hush.
But in Genesis three point fifteen, when Adam and Eve
partook of the sin with Satan, and God stepped into
the picture and he doled out his punishment if you
want to say, but they knew it was coming if
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they did this. But he said to the man and
the woman their deal. But watch this, But he says
to Satan himself. He says, from the womb of a
woman will come a male child that will destroy you,
crush your head, destroy your kingdom. Satan has been on
a rampage ever since then about the fruit of the womb,
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from a child and in the womb of a woman,
because that is Jesus on the cross, the resurrection. That's
what is destroying and has ultimately destroyed Satan's kingdom. That's
what this is all about. It is spiritual warfare. We're
watching it acted out all over the world. Thank you
for letting me say all that.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Well, that's great. Well, I want to go back. I
love because you and I've talked about this. Some of
my most favorite sayings in the Bible starts at the
beginning in Genesis. In the beginning. God, I take people
to that all the time. That's that's our pivot point.
That's where we start in the beginning God. Now you
talk about how God had ordained marriage. What I love
about is how he punctuated it. Carl. He said, Wow,
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this is really good. He says, very good. Right, I mean,
everything's good throughout the creation process, but marriage He goes, ooh,
this is really good. And and of course you know
you got Adam. When he's presented with Eve, he in
essence says the same thing, right. He says, I like it.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah. Yeah. He looks at Eve and he says, whoa.
Oh man, that's where we get the word woman from.
Woe man. No, I'm kidding. I'm trying to be corny.
That's a dad's joke. Forgive me. It's Father's Day or
the day after. But anyway, No, you're right. God looked
at it all, including marriage, which was kind of the crowning,
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you know, impact upon that whole creation event, and he said, behold,
this is good, very good.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
And everything was all set in order according to God Almighty,
not the Communists, not the Republican Party, not Donald Trump,
God Almighty himself put everything in perfect order, and then
we messed up. Adam and Eve decided they knew better
than God and they wanted to listen to the outside influence.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Go ahead, right, No, No, I didn't mean to interrupt.
I'm sorry. I thought you were finished. But no, I
agree with you completely. And one thing I want to
remind your audience it might help them. I say this
probably every other Sunday, and one way or the other
in I message, and I take certain principles that are
just eternal, and I repeat them often and sometimes I
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put them into cute little formats so that people can
kind of remember them. But one of the things that
I say that I think will help your audience, especially
as we watch Iran tacking. That's Persia, by the way,
attacking the return to Israel. As we're watching all the
insurrection and riots. Now, look at this Israel, the nation
that God used to bring the Word of God, the
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prophet of God, the prophecies of God, the Messiah of God,
the salvation event, the resurrection event, and the birth of
the Church event, and the giving of the Holy Spirit
of God event. That all came through Israel. That all
came through the people that God chose doesn't mean because
God chose them that they're perfect and they can do
no wrong. No, they live in the same sinful world
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we do. But He chose them to do all of
that to provide for your salvation and my salvation. And
neither one of us are Jewish, and so so the.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
But we are, though, Carl, our roots, our roots are
found in Judaism. I know some well I'm not Jewish. Well,
actually we are. I mean, if you believe in the Messiah,
I mean all that leads up to the Messiah that
the Jews decided. They're just not there yet, but they
will be eventually. We took it to the next chapter,
you know, and we get the New Testament. Anyway, I
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wanted to I want to add this to what you
were saying. Okay, go ahead and finish your thought and
then I'll know.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
No, I was just gonna say, yeah, I was. I
had all that going through my mind, but I thought, well,
they don't want to hear me preach for forty five minutes. So,
but the Bible actually says that all of us who
are believers in your Shua of the Hebrew word for Jesus,
we are children of Abraham. We are grafted in, Paul
says in Romans eleven, to the vine, to the branch,
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to the olive tree, which is Israel. And ultimately Jesus
Christ himself gentiles Jews together, Paul says, and Ephesians too
become the one new Man. So yeah, in that sense,
we can say we are all Israel if we are
in Jesus Christ. Which watch this talking about all the
downward think about the denominations now the whole denomination. And
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then a lot of independent pulpits hate the Jews. They're
trashing Israel. I mean, it's like, how can you say
that you're a born again believer, that you stand on
the word of God, and you say we hate the Jews,
we hate Israel when fifty times from Deuteronomy to Zachariah,
the Old Testament prophesies the return of Israel in the
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last days, and it says God says, I'm doing this
to show the world that I alone am God, and
that you will note that it's getting very close and
very soon. So this is why I started by saying,
we're living in such biblical spiritual times. And remember, folks,
people that are listening and watching the Word of God,
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that Bill and I are quoting that thinks over three
thousand years of The newest book in there is Revelation,
and that's two thousand years old. The other books before
it were a thousand years before that are hundreds and hundreds.
Yet it speaks to our day. We're the only generation
to see the return of Israel. We're the only generation
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to see Iran Persian, all these nations uniting now to attack.
We're the only generation that has seen an exponential explosion
of technology. Now we're into quantum computing and AI and
everything else. Nuclear technology is on the table today. All
of that was prophesied in the Word of God, Old
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and New Testament. If I had time, I could prove it.
Go to the scriptures and show everybody in the original
languages what those words mean and the nuances of them
and everything that we're living in. No generation before us
has ever lived in it. Yet the Bible two thousand
to three thousand years ago said this is going to happen.
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I don't know what to tell people that to just
roll their eyes at that, say, well, that's your opinion. No,
it's written in black and white three years ago, and
we're watching it with our eyes. How can that be
my opinion. I'm just reporting on what's happening.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh brother, what other God has done that?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And the other thing to God says.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I wanted to share with you an author that I've
talked with a couple of times. He's very prominent in
the Catholic circles, has had direct relationships with the most
recent popes, well several of the popes from twenty third,
Pope John the twenty third and now with Pope Leo.
And he said something the other day when we were
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talking that really made so much sense to me that
sometimes what happens is apologists, as Christians and believers in Jesus,
that we're quick to tell people no. First we lead
with a no, you know, no, you're not supposed to
do that. No, you're not supposed to do that. But
what we need to connect is kind of what you
were referring to earlier, and that's what brought the up
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is that all our nose are preceded by an emphatic
yes from God Almighty. And when we understand, just like
you were saying, it's not hey, it's not us saying
God forbid that it would be the word of Bill
Martinez or Carl gallops, Yes, we're falling, we're failed people. No,
it is from God Almighty himself, the one who created
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this popcorn stand. And you know what, it's a pretty
neat popcorn stand when you think about it, even in
the mess that it is. But you know, eventually, soon
and very soon, that will all be redeemed, and you know,
and that's what we all look forward to. But unless
you're aware of what's going on, don't just take our
word from it. It's like Carl says, do your own study,
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own your own knowledge, don't just take our word for it.
But we're here to tell you this because look at
we've been on this planet for several decades. I'm not
going to give you an exact number, but we've been
here enough to make our series of mistakes and lessons
that we've learned. And guess what, we don't want you
to do the same thing. And it's just like the
law of gravity. You defy gravity, there's consequences there. So
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we were telling you you're heading for a cement wall.
And it's real clear because you know, we've got what
about two thirds of what God had prophesied in the
Bible has been fulfilled at one thousand percent, still maybe
about a third, Maso menos, still yet to be fulfilled.
And so the question I ask is, what do you
think about God's batting average? You think he's still going
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to bat one thousand percent on that last third. I'm
willing to bet on that, Carl.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, no doubt about it. I think probably more than
two thirds, Maso menos. That's cute. Wow wow wow. Okay,
But anyway, No, you and I played with the Spanish
all the time, and we're both blessed to speak a
little bit of it. But anyway, uh no, And what
I was saying a moment ago, and you didn't interrupt me,
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I just forgot to say the big point, and that
is I tell my congregation all the time when you
look around at the world and you see what's happening.
You know, the Bible says Jesus said, look, peace be still,
even though you walk through the valley of the shadow
of death, you fear no evil. I am with you,
all right, that's twenty third Psalm. But I tell them
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all the time saying, look, we are living in Satan's world.
Jesus called him the god little g of this age.
So what age is coming next, Oh, the age of
Jesus returning, putting his feet on the Mount of Olives,
the great White Throne being set up, the new heaven
and the new Earth. That you know, people say, well,
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how can that be? God created the first heaven and
the first earth by commanding it, Let there be, Let
there be, and the angels worshiped him when they saw it.
I think we're going to see something similar when it
all culminates. We will be those that are born again
in your Showahamashiah, Jesus Christ. We will be there and
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we will see it.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
But in the meantime, can you imagine that, Carl, I mean,
we weren't there with the first creation, but at the
second creation, we're going to be there with all the
angels who saints and watch God in his glory. Just
speak it into existence, I mean yeah, and you talk
about blown away.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Right yeah, and beyond and beyond whatever, because it'll be
forever for us. And so it's just whatever God does.
I mean, the Bible doesn't necessarily say this, but for example,
just to think, what if it creates more universes and
allows us to do kind of like with the angels. Now,
as the angels minister to our generation. I mean, we
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don't know what we don't know. God has not told
us everything, but He's told us everything we need to
know to become redeemed, to rejoin Him in the creation
that it was meant to be. But it allows us
to make choices. We're not robots, puppets on a string.
We're not animals that operate by instinct. We are made
in God's image. And so the deal is, when we look,
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we see we are living in Satan's world. We're listening. Listen.
Revelation twelve says it like this. In verse twelve, it says, look, uh,
woe unto you Earth in these last days, woe unto you?
And that earth means the people that live on it,
he says, because because and woe means you know how pitiful,
and you know and be warned, and judgment is coming.
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That's what it means, woe on the earth, because Satan
has been thrown down and he's filled with rage and
he knows his time is short. But before that, in
verse eleven, it says, but they speaking of God's children,
because that's the context of that. He says, but they
overcame him during that time by the blood of the
Lamb and the word of their testimony. So that is
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we stand in the Word. We fix our eyes on
Jesus first, make sure we are born again biblically speaking,
and then we get on with life. And people say, well, listen,
why are we having to live in satan? Because it's
the way the whole COSMOSI is moving. But here's the deal.
The Bible says, we are ambassadors for His coming kingdom.
We are to represent the word of God for those
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that need to hear it. We're the prophets, the priests,
the preachers, the pastors, the witnesses, if you will. And
it literally says we are to be his ambassador. So exactly,
our life has purpose and meaning. We don't look at
what's happening and say, oh my gosh, what's happening. We
can never get world peace, we can never stop wars
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in the Middle East, we can never stop rioting in
the United States. But yeah, I know who can though,
the one that my faith is in Jesus Christ. So
that's the way I live my life. The Bible says
to live it that way, and he says, look, your
reward's coming. He says your mind cannot conceive, your ear
has never hurt, your eyes never seen what lies ahead
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for those that know and love the Lord.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
You know, and you say, by the blood of the Lamb,
just like the Jews Uh before the Exodus, Right, it
was by the blood of that Lamb that they had
they had to have faith in.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It starts with faith, by the blood of the Lamb.
You've got to have faith that that's that's enough.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know, in fact, there's a oh, there's a scene.
I don't know if you've seen The Chosen yet the
new series.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I watched all of it but the very last season,
and I'm getting we're getting ready to start the last
season now, but yes.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Is about ready to go there. And what happens is
that it's called the Day. I think it's called the Dane.
You you might know it better than I do. It's
a prayer that is said during the Passover. And I'll
tell it so touched me because they prayed said, had
God only came, UH came to save the people out
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of bondage, that would have been enough. Had God taken
us through through the Red Sea and saved us from
Pharaoh's army, that would have been enough. Had God taken
us through, you know, the forty years in the desert
and provided for us, that would have been enough. I mean,
it's such a beautiful prayer. Carl and I think about
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even in our own lives, that you could go and
look at benchmarks in our own lives and say, you know,
if God took me from darkness into that, would that
would have been enough. The other stuff's just cherry on
the cake kind of deal. And it is such a
touching moment. So when you see this, you'll know what
I'm talking about. It's part of this new season that's
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that's going to be coming up. I think I think
it's I think it's released on Prime video. They start
to release it and where you can see it for free.
I believe it starts this week the Josen But you'll you'll, you'll.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I saw it last night. I think it's on Amazon
or Netflix. I was scrolling through and there it is,
and I went and checked and all the episodes are
there and they're already part of one of those. Yeah,
if you're subscribed to one of those, whichever one it was,
then there for so yeah, I think they're very well done.
Then people argue and debate, we can talk about all
the ins and outs of the Chosen, but overall I think.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It's very well in the general context. But again, going
back to what you were saying, the blood of the lamb,
you have to have faith. It takes faith in the
blood of the lemon, just like it took faith for
the Jews to say, oh, hey, okay, well all right,
we're supposed sacrifice this lam put the blood over the lamb,
and then you know, then they saw the fulfillment of
their faith when all the other children of Pharaoh's family
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and all the non Jews they lost their eldest son,
you know, to the plague. Okay, then you say the
testimony of your mouth, Well, the testimony is an experiential response.
It is based on what your senses have realized and
your walk with God over time, so that you know
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that you know, so that when Satan comes to you
and said, hey, Carl, did God really say, Well, not
only did he say it, let me tell he did it?
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, you're absolutely right. And listen,
let me give back to where I was going, because
I had a little conclusion that will help people understand
what's going on. In the world and why it is
spiritual warfare. We are living in Satan's age. God Jesus
calls him the god of this age. He calls him
the Prince of this world. Okay, so this world system,
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this age system. But he's not the god in prince.
He's not Malekchamelechim, the king of Kings, He's not that.
Satan is not that, but the Lord Jesus is so.
So in that same chapter Revelation twelve, which is the
middle of the Book of Revelation, and it's this, it's this.
It goes all the way back to Genesis in the
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Garden of Eden when it talks about the serpent, and
then it says, who is the devil is looking to
kill that male child. He's wanting to destroy that child
that was prophesied. And so where did the child come from?
Eventually through the seat of Abraham, which developed the nation
of Israel. Eventually he came to the nation of Israel.
So but at the end of chapter twelve, it goes
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on to say, and he's thrown down to the earth.
He's filled with rage. He knows his time is short.
That's what we're watching, Bill. And then it says, therefore,
he has gone off in those last days to make
war against the woman that gave birth to the child. Now,
people say, well, the virgin Mary is now here. No, no, no,
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the woman is Israel. That's the ultimate woman that births
the child that brings salvation to the world. And Revelation
twelve actually says that, but anyway, let me keep going.
He will go off to make war against the woman.
Look what's happening today the last several days, for the
last seventies almost eighty years that Israel's been back in
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the Middle East. It's war against Israel, the nations that everybody,
the Islamic nations and other nations. And so he says,
he goes off to make war against them, and those
who hold to the testimony of Jesus Christ. Well, those
are born again believers. Now some of those are Jews,
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most of them right now are Gentiles. But watch this.
So he's mainly saying the Church. And we're not talking
about an institution, a Baptist or Catholic or Methodists. We're
talking about born again believers, the Church, the body of Christ.
He makes war against the woman Israel. He makes war
against born again believers. Now look the attack and the
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hatred for Israel is through the roof. Look at the
attack and the hatred for America. Now we are not
just like Israel is not a nation full of perfect,
God loving people. Neither is America. But God has used
and blessed America to birth and to protect the Jews
when they were under a persecution, and also born again believers.
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There are more people in the United States who profess
to be born again Believers than in any other singular
nation on the planet. Now, if people say, yeah, but
half those people that profess it, they're not really Christians,
I will say you're probably right, But that ought to
tell you something. Eight billion people on the planet, only
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two billion claim to be Christians. Cut that in half,
and you might have one eighth of the world's population,
maybe maybe not that much that are true born again believers.
And I'm not the judge of that. I'm just saying
what the statistics says and what the Bible says. And
so when you think about that's what we're watching, that
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Satan is coming against America. He knows we stand with Israel.
We stand in the way of the nations attacking Israel.
We stand as a nation. We have taken more Christian
benevolence to the world than any other nation. We've spread
the Gospel to all the nations more than any other
singular nation. We have the most freedom in America, especially
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freedom of war worship. I mean, I've been passion of
this church for thirty nine years. The government can't shut
us down. Some of them have tried. People can't. So
the bottom line is we're watching it. This is what's
going on in the world exactly, and only the Bible
says this. No exact book in the world says the
things you and I have been saying.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Carl Gallups is with his former decorated law enforcement officer,
prophecy expert, pretty critically acclaimed top sixty best selling author
and senior pastor at Hickory Hammock Church in Florida. Carl,
as you say, we can see it with our own eyes,
but you know what's happening. It's interesting on the internet
right now, there's this saying amongst Black Americans. They call
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it black fatigue. And I thought it was interesting because
I thought it was far reaching. I mean, even though
it's expressed in the black community, and what it is
is that people are just getting frustrated and worn out
over I guess for lack of a better word. And
my dad, if he heard me say it, he'd be
knocking me on the head because he hated whenever. He
literally hated whenever I would occasionally slip and refer to
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something as being stupid. But this is what happens. We've
as a result of this fallen world and where we
are right now and the accommodation of all this silliness
has going on, we've kind of rendered ourselves stupid and
and what's happening in the process. Black America is seeing it,
and they're saying they're they're Black fatigue because they're tired
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and fed up of dealing with this silliness that is
anti God. It defies common sense, and on and on,
and I said, you know, I was telling my wife,
I go, this extends beyond the black is white. This
is Mexicans, you know, Hispanics, you know, Christians, non Christians.
And I'm and I'm reminded again of what the Word
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says in Galatians six. You know, let us not become
weary in doing good right. We need to stay focused
on these things that God has revealed to us and
stay faithful to that, to continue to fight that good fight,
because it's not going to be a cakewalk, is it.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
No, No, it's not. And that's the whole point of
the perspective that I was giving, because if we lose
that perspective that this is Satan's world, we are ambassadors
in it. Satan is purposely attacking Israel and the United
States purposely if you can bring down those two entities.
Satan owns the world. I mean he does, and he
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knows it. So don't grow weary even though we're walking
through the valley of the shadow of death. Jesus, there's
fear no evil, for I am with you. My rod
and my staff they comfort you. And so so that's
the perspective. I take a biblical worldview. That's how I
live my life. I'm honored that God would allow me
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to live in these days. Some people say, oh no,
they're frightening days. Listen, there's never been a generation on
the face of the earth since the Garden of Eden
that hasn't had abject evil injected into it. Look at
all the wars, look at all the barbarianism that went on,
Look at all just think of the whole world's structure
since the flood. There's never been a perfect place to
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live or a perfect world. No earthquakes, no tornadoes, no hurricanes,
no you know, volcanoes. Has never been the whole earth,
the whole creation groans waiting for the restoration of all things.
The Bible says that we're living here. And so people say,
when I say I'm honored to live in this time,
people say, well, how can that be? I wish I
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lived in the old days. Which old days, the old
days of segregate segregation and KKK and civil wars or
even the Revolutionary War. Everybody we killed each other on
our front lawns. I mean, what are you talking about?
So I'm honored that God has put you and me
together in the day of technology. We can speak to
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the world now, brother, and no generation before us has
been able to do this. And we wouldn't even know
each other if we had lived fifty sixty years ago,
we wouldn't have had the technology or the reason to
even know each other. Now we're dear brothers and dear friends.
We've eaten together, we've visited together, We've been with each other.
And so I'm just saying why would God choose us?
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I don't know. I mean, glory to him. I know
it's not me, and I know it's not you. I
know you real well, it's not you. It is the
Lord and his grace and his mercy. And if God's
people could just think this way or something like it.
I'm not saying you have to think like me, but
think like what the word of God says. To give
him praise, give him thanksgiving, and understand if you're under
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the blood, God's got this.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, really exactly, And with all this going on, I
can appreciate how people could get weary and end up,
you know, battle fatigue. Over all that's happening in the culture.
You know, we talked about LA and what's happening in
Los Angeles and particularly with law enforcement in that, and
I hear some of these celebrities. In fact, there was
a Dodger baseball player talking about how offended he was
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in a sense and characterizing, you know, what was going
on with the immigrants there. And my first thought was, well, Kiki,
that's fine, but when was the last time you got
your rear end down into the streets of LA right
there in the middle of those riots and talk to
the people to find out who they are, you know,
and because we're finding out and again you with your
(34:25):
law enforcement background, it's not the it's not the Los Angelinos. Yeah,
there's a little bit of them involved, but you've got
outside they're saying the CCP, you know, organize signage and
all this stuff, people being paid that you know, the
communist Chinese are involved in orchestrating this stuff. This is
all a narrative that is being thrust out. But it's
(34:47):
easy to get caught up in the wave of emotion
and you speak unintelligently because you know, you and I
have a responsibility with the platform that God has rendered
to us, and that is that we need to be
response orators and people who have done their work in
research so that we encourage people based on the truth,
not just on sentiment. Because God is truth, and this
(35:10):
is why He's put us in this position, because you
and I are committed to his truth. Even though Ponscious
Pilot himself said, well what is truth? Well, you and I,
by God's grace and mercy, not that we know it perfectly,
but we know it a lot better than he did
at that time. He was right, and we know truth.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, we know the truth, but Jesus said he is
the truth, and then we've got his word. And so
you're right. Neither of us do the truth perfectly all
the time, but our hearts desire us to do that,
and God gives us the Holy Spirit to enable us
to please him. So that's the good gift He's given
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us through salvation, because otherwise we wouldn't even want to
do it. As we look at the world, most of
the world doesn't want to do any of that. They
laugh at us, they scoff and mock. But the thing is,
just remember, look at all of the deceit, the hypocrisy,
the duplicity that's involved in everything. Listen the insurrection of
(36:12):
twenty twenty sixteen or twenty yeah, twenty exe. When was
twenty twenty twenty twenty yeah, twenty sixteen, this one, yeah,
the insurrection. Listen just yesterday, just yesterday, these rioters stormed
the capitol and they were burning heaps of trash on
it and everything, and I mean the police had to
(36:32):
come in. They were trying to break into the capitol,
and there were no Capitol police saying yes, come in,
come in, like there was on January sixth, and I mean,
where's the insurrection? You know, people say, wait a minute,
we had people locked away in the dungeons of the
Capitol Building in Washington, D C. Because of the Trump
(36:53):
election loss and all of that, and they called that insurrection. Well, now,
real insurrection is happening, going to ice government buildings in
the in the West, in Oregon and Portland and everywhere
in Los Angeles and trying to burn them down and
shooting incendiary devices and attacking the police. That is the
(37:17):
very definition of insurrection. Well, why is it okay for
them to do it? But if we do something that
even doesn't even come close to that, you know, we're
putting dungeons under the well. The hypocrisy is astounding. But listen,
we're living in Satan's world. We should not be surprised
by that. We should fight against it. We should vote,
(37:38):
maybe even run for office. Whatever. Pray, keep our eyes
on Jesus, but we're not going to fix this into
a perfect paradise. We're not the Lord is, but we
are ambassadors. We've got a whole true, we've got to
stay the course. God has got this through Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Carl prophetically speaking, let's address what's happening right now in
the Middle East with the war between Israel and Iran directly.
We've been saying this for a long time. You and
I discussed this years ago, that there was no way
that Israel could tolerate Iran going nuclear. And it was
not just it was not just Israel, but all the
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other Arab nations. The United States not tolerate the world
could not tolerate Iran going nuclear. They've already demonstrated who
they are. They're terrorists, and so you can't empower them.
And why Barack Obama in a million years would set
up some sort of program to be able to tell us, oh,
they're not going to go nuclear, but yet set up
(38:37):
a program where they could go nuclear.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Listen, his chief of staff was born and raised in Iran,
the woman I can't remember her name. I mean, he's
so connected to all.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
Of that, Walari Jarrett, you're telling Valarie Jarrett, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yes, yeah, he's so connected to the Islamic world in
so many ways. And I'm not trashing Islamic people. I mean,
you know a lot of them just want to live
their lives. Now, what happens when they stand before the
Lord is up to them. We will love them, give
them the truth. But if they don't accept it, I mean,
I'm not going to hate them and try to kill them.
But when you look at it, Barack Obama was tied
(39:15):
to all of that. He listened to New York Times,
lauded him during Arab Spring, gave him credit for inciting that.
They thought that was so cool until it kind of
backfired on them in so many ways. Then all of
a sudden it was well, no, they just they were
just watching it and cheering on the good ones. And
you know, New York Times, I mean, that's a joke now.
(39:38):
But anyway, I'm just saying, I know what I'm talking about.
I've written all this, I've researched it, I've gone to
all the credible references and even the mainstream media sites,
and I stay away from the back channel of conspiracy stuff.
And you've read some of my books and you know
that I do this, and so I know what I'm
talking about. So so we watch all of that, and
(39:59):
the connections to that are unbelievable. But even Benjamin Nettnyaw,
who has said recently to the Iranian people, he said, look,
our battle's.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Not with you.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
It's with these idiots that run your nation. It's when
they're they're they're crazy. And he said, we know that
most of you want to live in peace, educate your children,
go to work, live your life. But you can't. You can't.
And and so they're threatening Israel, they're threatening the world,
they're threatening the United States, and we're not going to
tolerate it. You guys have to do something about it.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
So they have, they have been, carl they have been
knowing it, got inside forces that have been moving in
that direction as well. And I think that's one of
the reasons why. Also Donald Trump said do not assassinate
the Ayatola.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yes, and this is why because of the connection with
Barack Obama. And I'm not saying he's the most evil
person in the world. I mean, look what we just
went through with Joe Biden. Good gracious he shipped money
over to Iran as well. Obama dropped it off on
the tarmac, billions of dollars.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
In claiming that this Martin knows, and he claimed.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
This is going to help us make sure they don't
have nuclear weapons in what world? Well, he knew what
he was doing. He was not stupid. He double talking, duplicity, dupliciousness.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So he's funded he funded Hamas, the hoodies and Hespela.
That's what actually, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Absolutely so he's tied to all of this. He just
is I'm sorry. I know people don't like it. They say, well,
you're being political. No I'm not. I'm just calling out
the person who is obviously connected to it all. At
that time, he was the most powerful man on the
planet because he's the President of the United States. That's
why they hate Donald Trump. That's why they couldn't believe
(41:52):
he won. In twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton, Obama's secretary of State,
was supposed to win that according to them, Uh right,
So a million to one, a million to one on
a billionaire architect and builder winds up beating the former
secretary of State and the former first Lady and on
(42:15):
and on, a lawyer and all of this. He beats them.
But you know, and so the next election they had
to make sure he didn't go back in because you know,
the second term of a sitting president can be the
most powerful because they can't run anymore anyway. They don't
have to bow down to the political you know, thrones.
They can basically do under the law. Of course that
(42:36):
doesn't mean anything to the left, but under the law
they can get things done. Well they surely they tried
to listen, brother, when they took the election. And I'm
just gonna say that, I believe with all my heart
that that election was messed with. And if I'm wrong,
I'm just wrong, and I apologize you.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And over sixty percent of America according to Gallup and Rasmus.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Yeah, well, and I'm just so probably most of our
audience would agree with me, but I'm just gonna say it.
That's my opinion, and your audience does not have to
agree with me. But they had to get they had
to keep him from going into that second term. Now,
when they had that four years of Biden in look
what they did. Most of it was attacking Trump and
trying to arrest him, getting put in prison, keeping him
(43:21):
tied up in courts, and excuse the pun, but trumping
up charges on him continually. And then they in the end,
somebody asked, hey, they I'm not saying the Democrat National Committee,
but somebody tried to put a bullet in his head.
They did hit him in the head. He just happened
to turn his head just a little bit. Had he not,
(43:41):
we were to watch live that bullet go right through
his temple exactly. They were just thirsty for his blood
to keep him out. Well, so he runs and they
tried to put him in prison. They couldn't do that.
They tried to turn the public against him, they couldn't
do that, And so they tried. Somebody tried to kill
him and couldn't do that twice actually, and then he
(44:03):
finally stands for election and they're trashing him in trashing him.
Of course, who are they going to pull up Kamala Harris?
And they pulled Biden out of the way because they
knew he couldn't do it, and they were hoping, maybe
be Kamala can do it. Didn't even come close. Now
they really hate him and they're terrified of him, terrified
(44:24):
because now he has his hands on the information and
the lever that pulls the power, the most powerful lever
in the world. And he's a friend of Israel, and
so Iran is erupting, China's erupting, Russia's erupting. I mean,
this is spiritual warfare at its most biblical. We're watching
(44:45):
it happen.
Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, it's exciting. Times that we live in. We've got
about four minutes left here, Carl gallups. And so my
question to you is, and I believe this with all
my heart, Israel's going to take down Iran, and so
are we Are we going to enter into that period
prophetically where Israel then starts to be living without walls
(45:07):
and in peace, which is the next step in the
prophetic timeline.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Right. Well maybe, so that's a part of Ezekiel thirty
seven and then thirty eight and thirty nine. But I
don't really take that walls thing to mean. I mean
maybe afterward, yes, of course, at the return of the Lord. Sure,
But the point is, if you just watch look at
thirty seven, it prophesies the return of Israel to the land.
(45:32):
One of the fifty that do that chapter goes very
deep Isaiah forty nine, very deep. And then Ezekiel thirty
eight says, when they're in the land, secure and strong,
and they are the number one superpower of the Middle East.
Of course they got America backing them and Britain backing them,
so you put all that together, they are they just are.
(45:53):
Look what they're doing single handedly taking on Iran, and
I mean they're bringing Iran to its knees, and Russia's trembling,
China's trembling. They're going, what in the world is happening
here that's not supposed to happen. Well, the Lord God
is with that nation, he said in Ezekiel thirty eight
he would be. But now I think that Ezekiel thirty
(46:13):
eight that you know God and may God will be
with them. Most scholars think that's Russia, But now a
lot of modern scholars think, not only is it Russia,
it's all the Asian nations in that area, Russia, the
Stan nations, the old Soviet Union, part of that, Iran, Turkey,
all of that. And then it says Persia will be
(46:35):
with them. Will Persia is Iran? Until nineteen thirty five,
every globe and map said Persia. Now it says Iran,
it's going to be with them. And then the Northern
Africa and the Eastern African part of nations of Africa
continent are going to be with them. And we already
see those coalitions building. And as a fact, Jonathan Khan
(46:56):
has done some research on every one of those nations
that are listed in Ezekiel thirty eight. If they're not
directly involved with Iran, they are at least indirectly by
financing stuff, by getting them finances to them and every
one of them. And we don't have time to do
all that. So the bottom line is they are a
land without walls and gates in that they've been like
(47:20):
the United States. I mean, we've got walls and gates
around the United States, but basically we don't. We live free.
We go anywhere we want, we get on our car,
we drive from one end to the other. We go
to church, or we don't go to church. We don't
have walls and gates. Israel has been living the same way,
but in that time when they're strong, one of the
biggest tech leaders on the planet, they've only been alive
(47:41):
as a nation for seventy five six years exactly. Now
they're attacking. Now it's beginning. And I'm not saying that
this is the culmination of the Ezekiel thirty eight prophecies,
but I say to people, it's at least the beginning stages.
It's setting up. But there's not.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
And again we're looking at the benchmarks, and here's another
benchmark to look at this, saying, hey, who would have
thunk right? And so here, and then on top of that,
you got the Abraham Accords, and you got to know
those surrounding Arab nations around Israel, they are, if not overtly,
they're secretly cheering on Israel to make sure that they
(48:21):
wipe out Iran because they're no friend in ally with
their run.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
No, no, you're right, because that goes to the denominationalism
of Islam. The she Heites and the Sunnis most of
the Islamic nations around around Israel or Sunni Sunni led
or major population, but Iran Sheite all the way through
one of the most radical branches. So yeah, they fear
(48:45):
them too. But the bottom line is we are watching
Ezekiel thirty eight build and build and build. I don't know.
I mean, they're all kinds of scenarios, allalk into his guests. Now,
this is not the word of God. But is me
speaking from the word of God exactly?
Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, So what I mean all of this, Let's say
Israel goes in just defeat around and everybody goes, Okay,
we've got it, world peace according to the Word of God.
Probably not Probably they're going to come back, and or
is going to come with them, and or these other
nations are going to come and then they're going to
attack Israel again. They're going to surround Jerusalem, the Bible says.
(49:21):
But here's what the Bible also said. I just want
to let folks know. It says about a minute.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
We got about a minute left here, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Okay, thank you, that God himself will supernaturally intervene so
that the nations will see the hand of God, not
military might, but the hand of God. He will divert
that whole thing. He will destroy it. He will destroy
Israel's enemies that have attacked, and that they will mourn
and weep, but Israel will still be standing. It will
(49:52):
be safe because they are God's people. They are God's
monument to his glory. So I'm telling you the rest
of the world that thinks are going to to defeat Israel,
they're in for a long hard lesson.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
Well soon and very soon, Carl. How exciting is this?
I mean, we are on the verge of Maranatha. Come, Jesus, Come,
and every day we get closer and closer to that reality.
I can only hope and pray, like Simeon when he
saw Jesus in the temple, that we would see the
(50:24):
salvation of the Lord for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, that would be amazing, and I think we're very
close to it. Again, we don't set dates, but when
you look at everything else we've been talking about, it
sure is getting close. According to God's word.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Again, the message for you, ladies and gentlemen is to
take what we're saying. Don't just take it just from us.
You need to own your own knowledge, do your own research. Hopefully,
God willing, We've encourage you to look into the word
of God and do your research for yourself and let
it be your own knowledge. Carl, thank you. I appreciate
you for coming on the show. As always, you're such
(50:58):
a dear friend.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh it's my honor. And I'll just quote Romans ten
to nine. If you would confess with your mouth at
Jesus Christ's Lord and believe in your heart that God
raised him from the dead, then you shall be saved.
That's what we call being born again in getting under
the blood. And if that's the case, God's got it.
Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, and welcome to the family. You got it, Carl,
Thank you so much. Carl gallis a former decorated law
enforcement officer prophs the expert and critically acclaimed Amazon top
sixty best selling author Ladys Gentlemen, thank you so much
for sharing a part of your day with us. Hopefully
it was a blessing for you, and as I said
that it encourages you to, you know, do your own
research and check out for yourself and how the Holy
(51:39):
Spirit is leading you to the truth, because that's what
God wants. He wants us to understand with wisdom of
what He is doing in these times, and that we're
not to fret or grow weary in doing good. May
God bless you and keep you. May make His face
shine upon you. He'd be gracious unto you and give
you his peace. God blessed. Thanks for being with us,
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