February 24, 2025 • 50 mins
Dr Robert Malone, MD, MS, author of PsyWar: Enforcing the New World Order, is an internationally recognized virologist and immunologist, clinical research and regulatory affairs expert, and the original inventor of mRNA delivery and vaccination as a technology, DNA vaccination, and multiple non-viral DNA and RNA/mRNA platform delivery technologies. Dr Malone discusses the MAHA movement and Yale Study Investigates Post-Vaccination Syndrome Linked to COVID-19 Vaccines.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
We hello and welcome Bill Martinez here. Good to have
you with us, and yeah, we've got a great show
planning for you. Doctor Robert Malone, he is the inventor
of mRNA right, which we heard you know, and heard
so much about and learned about. We didn't know about
it before COVID nineteen, but he is the inventor. In fact,
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he made a com here recently that it looks like
there are I guess I don't know, I'm using my
words unexpected complications involved with the process alone himself, and
we were looking forward to talking to him getting into
more detail about it. Also about the confirmation of RFK
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Junior Will America. Will he be able to make America
healthy again in spite of all the pushback and the
resistance that he's been attacked by. Also, and this is breaking.
Last week was reported here on the show about a
Yale study investigation that talks about post vaccination syndrome that's
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being linked to COVID nineteen vaccines. Are you ready for this?
It's a recent study by Yale University researchers. Okay, not
a bunch of wannabes in some back room somewhere. They've
identified a rare condition that they're terming post vaccination syndrome
or PVS in a subset of individuals following COVID nineteen vaccination. Now,
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this condition manifests with chronic symptoms such as brain fog, dizzyness, tniitis, exercise,
and dolarance. Now, the study provides initial insights into the
biological changes associated with PVS, including alterations and immune cells
in the presence of coronavirus proteins long after vaccination. As
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I mentioned, this was reported last week on our show
by John Fleetwood from Johnfleetwood dot com. And the interesting things.
Remember when we were told about the vaccination was supposed
to stay in one spot right. Well, of course they're
realizing that's not necessarily the case. It was also supposed
to be vacated out of the body system within a
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relatively short amount of time. Well, this study is saying
that actually the vaccine stays in the body seven hundred
and nine days. Seven hundred and nine days. Is that incredible?
Telling you, it's no wonder that people have lost confidence
in our government, in the health system. And also why
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they were pushing the Trump administration to get Bobby Kennedy
Junior in place to do something about our health system.
And of course you saw the pushback coming from the left.
Just you know, and you wonder, you go, how do
you defend the indefensible? I mean, that just seems to
be the theme time and time again. Everything that the
administration is doing is as Donald Trump said in the
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final days of his campaign, it's common sense. And I
believe this is where America is at. This is the
age of common sense that we've entered into. And so anyway,
I'm excited, as I mentioned to you, to be talking
with doctor Robert Malone, who is here with us now.
So we're going to bring him on the show. Robert
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Malone joins us. Now, Hi, Bill, how you doing. Hey,
I'm doing great, Doctor Maloan, good to see again. Thank
you so much for making the time excited to talk
to you about RFK. Junior also reports on this latest
Yale study that I'm sure you're up on as well.
But first of all, first things first, let's talk about
RFK making America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, I'm just back from Seapack and Dounia Kellik and
I had a session talking about Maha. Unfortunately Bobby couldn't
be there. He's still really overwhelmed. I think maybe that's
too strong a word by the tyranny of the urgent.
He is in the mix right now dealing with all
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the fires that are burning in hhets well.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I just thought, I thought maybe you were going to
tell me that he was delayed because he was busy
filling out the five things he did last week for DOGE.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah. Yeah, probably he's dog exempt.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I suspect, well, but I suspect it's more than five
things that he did. Even in the first day after
he was.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Going to list five things, it's probably a problem of
figuring out what the top five are. So is Bobby
going to succeed? I don't know, You don't know what
is success. Trump has defined success for Bobby Kennedy and
the MAHA Commission, which he's established in Executive Order, as
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measurable improvements in the health of US citizens within twelve
to eighteen months. He's also defined in that executive order
what the primary focus is going to be. It's definitely
chronic diseases, and it is more specifically chronic diseases in
particular of children. So the focus is on children, which
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is consistent with Children's Health Defense. Bobby's the group that
he formerly served as a chairdren of the board on
and is often associated with, even though some of his
greatest successes were with water keepers and even before that
against Montano with his UH law practice. But UH, the
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focus is going to be on children's health, and hence
you've seen the announcements about UH rebuilding, reforming or replacing
bears UH in the announcements shutting down a lot of
the CDC communication and the stopping of the UH A
C I P. The UH UH UH I'm suddenly blanking
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on the acronym Advisory Committee on Humanization Practices UH. And
with that, you know when an A C I P
meeting is canceled. Uh a bell rings. No when with
an angel, it's nice to have it. When the A
C I P meeting gets canceled, usually that means that
some vaccine product that farmer is lobbying for is held
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in a bay.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are we gonna end up just as a sidebar? I mean,
Donald Trump seems to be picking zar. Whether it's the border.
We've got a pardoning zar. Now is there going to
be a vaccination zar?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I haven't heard that. I you'll recall that Bobby was
offered the czar position to avoid congressional conformation confirmation process
for us D A, F B, A C, D C
and N I H. So that would would that that
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offer took Medicare Medicaid off the table, and apparently Bobby
insisted that he would really rather prefer to go through
the confirmation process. Uh barrel and uh, you know, over
the waterfall, and uh take his risks in order to
have that broadened set of rules and responsibilities. So is
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he going to succeed? It's it's all in the details.
It's all in the second, third, and fourth tier appointments,
and some of those have been rushed in while he
was distracted by the confirmation process, Jerry Parker being a
notable example, Jerry Parker being a former associate dean. I
guess former because we only have the cd CD CDs report.
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Sorry I'm being challenged here. CBS report that Jerry Parker
has been appointed to the job of the White House
Office of Pandemic Planning. Jerry Parker is the at Texas
a m you uh he was serving. He's a DVM
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PhD and was serving as Associate dean of One Health,
so he's very much behind One Health. And by the way,
he is another one of these vaccine advocates that Peter
Hotez has done repeated podcasts with, and Peter Hotez wrote
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the forward for Jerry Parker's new book, Jerry Yeah, So
he's wrote his new book forward to it. So he's
very much in that One Health initiative is a big
part of Agenda twenty thirty. It's a very much globalist
initiative supported by a World Health Organization and the United Nations,
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and it defines that human health is on par and
priority with environmental health and animal health. As one person
posted on my subs stack the other day or on Twitter,
so I would rather sacrifice a labrat and have my
grandmother have a better standard of living than to preserve
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the labrat, and that kind of it's a little snarky,
but it captures the essence of the objections to the
One Health Initiative, which is absolutely aligned with you know,
in terms of the environmental impact part. It's explicitly aligned
with the Climate change Initiative or or green energy initiatives.
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It's another part of this whole globalist network. And Jerry
Parker is in on it. And Jerry Parker kind of
got snuck in that office in the White House without
Bobby having any knowledge of it. How do I know
that Bobby didn't know because when I told him about it,
he didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well. Well, plus, it's just so out of whack. It's
an oxymorn. I mean, it's even against Donald Trump's you know, agenda.
There's a glaring conflict there. We're talking with doctor Robert Malone.
He's the author of Cyward. I didn't get a chance
to tell you about that, and we're going to talk
more about his new book, Sye War Enforcing the New
World Order, which I think is appropriate in light of
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what we're talking right now.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I feel I'm not only have I now been vindicated
by Joe Rogan and that thank you Joe for that clinic,
but also by the USAID DOGE disclosures, which have pretty
much validated most of the thesis of the book A Cybor.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yes, well, doctor Malone. I mean this executive order that
Donald Trump sign with RFK and Maha, I mean eighteen months,
that's moving fast. If you're in Robert shoes RFK junior shoes,
what's the low hanging fruit that he can get to
right away to demonstrate that he's serious and that he
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can begin to get the job done, because, as we
know in government, even a four year term of what
Donald Trump's trying to do. I mean, I'm glad he's
moving as fast as he is, but it's getting the
rest of the government to move along.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I made mention that people were whining because you know,
Doe says, hey, tell me the five things that you
did last week on behalf of the government, And they
went into the field position and their thumb was in
their mouth and they're whining about it. You're going, wait
a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The mouth is one orifice that the thumb was inserted,
So you're.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
A doctor, So you could get into those other orifices,
but I didn't want to quite go there only.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
For prostate exams.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So yeah, getting back to it, what can Bobby do
to meet the president's mandate. One thing that is quite
notable is that the number of fentanyl deaths on a
daily basis probably substantially exceeds three hundred. Okay, So there
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are a number of steps that can be done to
change the arc of the fentanyl crisis. And there's a
number of facts that people don't understand about pentel. Of course,
it's being imported by the Chinese. It's an aggressive action.
It's an intentional aggressive action. It is, you know, basically
powdered murder. Donald Trump, his credit, has taken this policy
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of well number one. He called the Premieerr of China
and complained about it. But he put a embargo on
small packages, which is how they slipped. The ventanyl inel
is so powerful that the amount of fentanyl necessary to
cover the date on a penny will kill you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, think about that. Well, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They here's another fun factory bill. Uh. You probably have
a mental image that the people that are dying from
fentanyl or desperate opioid abuse or drugies. Right, Well, I've
seen a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
No, I understand some people might not.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
They're not who is dying. Mostly the people that are
mostly dying are unintentional unknowing poisonings. How does this happen?
They basically I did a cut the other day with
Laura Logan that will air soon in which we dove
into this. Laura is a bona fide expert on ventyl
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from a journalist standpoint, and so she asserts that none
of the street drugs, the pill street drugs that are
available are what they are advertised as. Even methamphetamine is
basically fentanyl laced with other things. Fedanyl is like the
do all drug for the dealer and has the advantage
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of being so potent with so little, So they can
put a bunch of baby powder together, put in a
tablet press and that a little bit of fentyl and
call it methamphetamine, and it's it is used, among other things,
to enhance the potency of marijuana. So these and I'm
also told I haven't confirmed this, that ventanyl is legal
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in the state of Colorado in small amounts. So what
they do is they dust it onto the marijuana that
they're selling. And you know, this can be in legal
shops also, it can be in the gummies. Uh. And
uh So some poor soul goes in to buy his
weed bang from the local uh you know, state state
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chartered dope dealer, right and uh and he gets this
bag that's been dusted with fentyl and and he gets
a fedyl dose. And you know, if somebody screws up
and put too much in there, he's debt. Uh. And
that's that, you know that in the the team that
has just scored whatever the pill is, that he thinks
he's bought. Uh, and then he gets a dose of
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fentanyl or he takes two pills instead of one.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
The thing is, these are mostly unintentional poisonings.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, you're hearing stories, doctor Malone of college students you know,
wanting to you know, they're doing an all nighter because
there's a term paper or whatever that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Right, And so then here it is the O D
and you're hearing stories timing again from these parents. And
the thing is, you think about it, and I haven't
looked at the demographic numbers, but it seems like a
lot of young people are caught in this net and
this is the future of our country that's being destroyed here. Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So actually I'm now connected with a guy. He's a
software engineer that made a bunch of money and he
was working on healthcare software and saw all these numbers
and he got so upset about it he decided he
was going to do something about it. He's one of
these guys of the good heart, and so he created
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a company called the Fentanyl Test, and he has created
a the best test for fentanyl to dipstick tests, So
you can do urine, but you can also wipe it
on whatever the substance is and put it in a
little bit of water and put this dipstick in and
tell right away whether or not you've got fentl. It's
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like within a couple of minutes. And it has a
sensitively of a nanogram the competing one that they've all
been using, the cops and the you know, the pathologists,
et cetera. It has a sensitivity of two hundred nanograms,
which to translate that two hundred nanograms is a lethal dose.
So that the test that all the government is using
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right now and paying big money for is basically just
allowing them to do a feed up, feet down test.
You know, if if you've got that level, you're already dead, right,
So it's totally useless for any kind of a screening purpose.
Now I am told that in the prisons that fentanyl
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is being flown in by drone because it's so light,
they can use these little, tiny mini drones and get
it in across the prison walls. So a lot of
the convicts are using it. The reason they're using it
is because they don't test for fentyl. They test for
a lot of other things, but it's too expensive to
run the fentanyl test, and so the prison system isn't
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testing for petnyl, and so they're all doing fentyl. So
that is the bona fide user community. But petanyl is
is something, as I said, well over three hundred a
day deaths, and why you know, we don't know the
number because what it is doing is apparently killing off
the homeless population at an amazing rate. And the homeless
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never get autopsies when they die, right, so we don't
actually know what's going on there. But petnel is one
thing that Bobby can take a crack at, and he
could do it in a number of ways, and getting
behind this test is one of them. And then and
the test is clear cleared, and you know it's all
on the up and up and getting square with the FDA.
So another big one is the whole issue of obesity.
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Obesity is what drives a lot of cardiovascular disease. Really
the diabetes. Of course, obesity is the one wearing that
rules them all in health, frankly, and we are absolutely
in the grip of an epidemic of obese ob and
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a lot of that is driven by highly processed foods.
And within that domainment of highly processed foods, it's foods
that use seed oils. So one thing he can do
there is to you know, there's a there's a potential
labeling issue this. I'm about to write an essay about
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all of this because it's really challenging from a libertarian standpoint.
You don't want the government being even more of a
nanny state, and yet you don't want poison in our food.
So we have to find some happy medium there. I
like to say, as I did at seapac, if if
somebody wishes to eat a lot of McDonald's hamburgers and
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drink coca Cola.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's their right to do so, exactly, even if he
is the president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You said it, not me, so yeah, my wife told
me I couldn't say that name when I gave that example.
So you get the point. Yes, but obesity is a
big one, diet is a big one. One of the
ones that I would like to see Congress move on
that they could do very easily, is to prohibit the
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use of glyphas Say, that's round up for those who
are exactly on the a lexicon, the use of glyphis
sate as a desicon. You know, what's that, Bill? You
ever heard about that?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, I've heard of glyswade, but not as a Here's
the backstory.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
This has been going on for about ten years now.
Virtually all of our greens, corn, wheat, and soy are
contaminated with glyphasate. Why you ask me, well, thank you
for asking, Bill. Yes, the answer is it's a dessicond.
What the heck does that mean. Here's this situation that
the modern farmer bases and remember there are no more
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small farms, they are gone, except that these are corporate
fish and the Mennonites. So you're running this, you know
thousand plus acre operation and you're growing corn and beans
because you know in the Midwest that's kind of the
way it is. You rotate those two crops, growing corn
and beans, and you need to harvest them. But the
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combine harvester that you need for your weaed or your corner,
your oats or your soybeans or whatever is runs into
the millions. So what you're gonna do, You're gonna go
even more deeply in debt to John Deere or what's
your alternative. What you do is you sign up with
an operation that just does harvesting. So there are you know,
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they're kind of like gypsies almost, these people that drive
around and they have a harvester and they'll come through
and harvest your field and that's how they pay off
the debt. And so they they have to be on
scheduled and then move through your farm and then to
move through your neighbor's farm and then and everybody has
got to be on schedule. Well, how are you going
to schedule the drying out of your crop so it's
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all uniformly dried. The answer is you spray it with roundup.
You spray it with round up right before it's harvested
so that then it dies in the grain or the
soybeans all die at the same time. They all dry
at the same time, and then you can handle the
scheduling with the combine harvester coming through that you've got
on contract. And so you can appreciate that all this
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feeds up to big egg in big finance, because that's
what drives everything in this world, particularly agriculture days. And
just like the chicken farmer in these days is essentially
an indentured servant of Tyson's Food, the farmer is also
an indentured servant of Wall Street and investment funds and whatever,
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and so they don't have any choice. They have to
do this. And so it's only been going on for
about a deck aid, so there's still memory of the
old days. Personally, I think the idea that you know,
I haven't heard anybody in the guvey's talking about this,
but this is a place that UH small business administration
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in the U s. D A and HHS could all
find common ground and find some way to capitalize at
very modest rates because of the public good. UH smaller
harvesters that can handle smaller groups of farms so that
they can have flexibility about when they harvest and then
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forbid the use of these dessiconts. Why should what's the
link between what I was just saying in dessecants and
ground up. Well, there's a ton of data. We've covered
this in our sub stack about glypha sate and glycasate exposure,
and particularly glyphysate exposure during pregnancy, and they've used animal models,
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et cetera. But basically two things are linked to glycostate
exposure during pregnancy to the fetus. One of them is obesity,
the other one autism.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Autism. Yeah, exactly. Wow. We're talking with the doctor Robert
Malone about making America healthy again, and it starts with
the consent of the government. You know, the onus is
really on us. We've we've you know, subordinated our brains
to the government said okay, hey, we trust you to
take care of us. And now we're getting fat, we're
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dealing with carcinogens and cancer continues to increase. Seventy percent
of the country is obese and it's going all in
the wrong direction.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So another thing that I know is on the table
right now in HHS and being actively worked on, is
reworking the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, that thing is.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
A hot mess. It reflects lobbying over decades and it
doesn't really have any connection to the science actual data About.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What should the pyramid look like, Robert, I.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Think it needs to be a lot more heavy on protein,
a lot less heavy on carbs, parly sugar. You know,
the emphasis on veg. That's good. There's a lot of
ups there. But we do need to have protein in
our diet, and I think we need to emphasize meat
a lot more than we have currently. There's a lot
of upside with meat, particularly beef, and I stand as
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a testimony to that. I've I switched from a vegetarian
diet almost two years ago at insistence of my doctor,
Brooke Miller, who lives locally, is a primary care doc.
It also happens to be a black angus rancher.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But he drew my blood for folding.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We got to say, but he's like seventh generation angus
leader here in Virginia. He's he. I mean, he could
step onto the set of Yellowstone and you wouldn't blink
an eye. Oh wow, so's he's the real deal. Except
he's a doc also, and he drew my bloods and
my inflammatory markers are out of control.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And he said, Robert, as a vegetarian, your markers are
out of control. Amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, And well, because modern you know, and if you're
living a busy lifestyle and you're trying to eat vegetarian,
you end up eating a lot of processed foods. They
happen to be soy based, but there's still processed foods
and they still got all those contaminants. So he said, Robert,
you got to change your diet or it's going to
kill you. And I did. I listened to him and
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switched over to a carnivore diet, very heavy on beef,
and I've dropped fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Wow, that's mean. So what was that like for you,
the first taste of beef in all those years of
being a vegetarian. What was that like?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well, kind of like fake meat, only better?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Good answer. I love that. That's great bake meat, but
only better. I love that. Well, Okay, so the pyramid
itself needs to be altered.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
We're gonna get away with being done right now.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and and then we're going to get away from
these oil seed oil based oils.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And that may have to be handled initially at the
education level of you know that Bobby has a bully pulpit. Yes,
and he is an excellent communicator and he walks the walk.
I mean I wrote in a subtect of the day
where I was talking about one of his favorite supplements,
methylin blue methyl. So he uses methylin blue and and
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it actually at the proper dose has all kinds of upsides.
It boosts your mitochondrial function. The mitochondria is it's kind
of a little power plant in each air of ourselves.
And uh, that's a that's another long story. What is
the mitochondria and where to get there? But uh, in
any case, it boosts the efficiency and activity or mitochondria
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is you have more energy. This includes cognition, uh, overall
energy state. But it's got to be at the right dose.
And uh my comment about body as as kind of
an advocate and user of this material, which is not
FDA authorized, uh, is that we now have an HHS secretary.
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It is both a bodybuilder and a biohacker.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You look, you look at him, you look at him
doing you know he's there, We're in you know, I
say Santa Monica, but you know at muscle Beach and
you know doing his uh his head stand, uh, lifting
weights and everything like that. I mean his body. I
mean it's like whoa. I mean, yeah, you want to
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listen to this guy, right, as opposed to listen to
somebody who's, you know, fifty eighty pounds overweight.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Or the former assistant secretary of HHS. What was her name,
Rachel Rachel Levine?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, she was confused out the door. So I mean,
you know, I want to listen to her, right, Not
much a role model.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So when I think of a president, you know, I'm
of a certain age as you are you. When I
think of a prior president that was this enthusiastic about him,
one that comes to mind is John F.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Kennedy right away exactly. Remember he got everybody exercising.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yep, and he considered it basically a national defense issue.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah yeah, and why wouldn't we now write and I
think with Pete hegseth in with the military right now,
doctor Malunge. I mean he's out there working out with
the guys, even in the coll I mean he's wearing shorts,
A couple of guys wearing shorts, everybody else in the
long bands. I mean he's uh, he's he's roughing it up, but.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
He's the real deal too. You know, we got we've
got a bunch of uh uh non pretenders.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And and we've been swimming in uh you know, fakes
uh frankly for the last four years, a.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Lot of closures.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
We would say, yes, exactly, it's refreshing.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well. And as you say, Bobby Kennedy has the pulpit
right now, which you know is on rent from Don
from Donald Trump, no doubt. And so this makes this
all viable. And and I and I think we have
and I've been saying this with our audience for quite
a while, doctor Malone, is that we have a small
window of opportunity and wish to do something rather grand, uh,
(30:49):
but it's it's going to require we the people, because
this is the government of we the people, and so
we need to get involved. And I think that we're
eager to do this because you know, I don't I
don't talk to anybody says hey, I hope I die
when I'm twenty. You know, it's like the old Yogi
Barras statement, right, he said, if I knew I was
going to live this long, I'd have taken better care
(31:10):
of myself. And I think that's the attitude of most
Americans is that we don't we don't want somebody else
to do it for us. We can take responsibility, but
we just need to have the right information instead of
just trusting you know, big Pharma and all these other
agricultural groups that are thinking about profit over the health
of American citizens.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Amen, we're on the same page. And with that decentralized
bottom up approach comes responsibility, personal responsibility, taking personal responsibility
for your health. If you don't want the nanny state
in your face, then you know, cowboy up and take
(31:51):
personal responsibility. Lose that weight, make those sacrifices, don't eat
that crab food. I'm more fact that I I love
Italian food, but uh pasa has just had to go
out the window. And that's one of my biggest sacrifices
on the dio.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Side, for me being Hispanic. Being Hispanic, it's flower tortillas
and that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, well at least the flower tortillas. So make sure
if you're going to do flower trtillas you get the
ones with lart yes as opposed to the hydrogenated vegetables
the big chains will sell you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You see, that was in the old day. See my mother,
Oh my goodness, oh wow, you just brought me back.
I mean, stacks of tortillas. But it was all with
Crisco lart, you know. And and there was this special
flower that came from Mexico that is no longer in existence.
They got rid of that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
But that bill I was once when I was much younger. Uh,
family went down to Baja Okay and to was it
a he had a little colorful uh. I forget which
bay it was. But as we were heading out, we
there was a beehive oven and it was dusty beside
(33:11):
the road, beehive oven, an old lady working it, and
we stopped and got some tartillas. I am never going
to have tartillas that good for the rest of my life.
I've just given up, never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, maybe in heaven, maybe in heaven to heaven. I
keep thinking, you know, my mom and all the other
Mexican ladies will they'll have flower tortillas for us and
Tamali's you know.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I mean, I think you and I have got to
find a good Mexican food joint. They're hard to find
here in Virginia. Everything comes out of a.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Can yes, I know is that at some but like
you said, getting back to the processed foods and the
education of America, and I just think I think right now,
doctor Malin. You know when I'm talking to people, say hey,
I'm going to talk with Robert Robert malonea today and
they were really excited to hear about that. And that
is that I think the the idea of awareness has increases,
(34:04):
like all of a sudden, somebody turned the light on
and people going, oh, that's right, I am fat. Oh
that's right. I've been eating all these processed foods. Oh,
the red dyes, all the different dyes that Bobby talked about,
I've been consuming them all these years. I'm lucky to
be alive.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah. So the bully pulpit, if if we all take responsibility,
we can help Bobby achieve his goal. That's the truth of.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It, which is for us, his goal is our goal.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Right, yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah. And you know, look at it's not a political thing.
This is bipartisan. It doesn't matter if you have an
R or D. It's just everybody wants to live healthy.
We went, we don't want to be a liability, you know,
to our kids and our family members.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Have some pride as an American, whatever your placed on
the spectrum. Uh you know when when when I travel
back from Europe or europe Europeans travel into American airports,
they are stunned, Oh yeah, by looking at people walking around.
And I don't want to fat shame people, but hey,
let's get on the program. I did it. I dropped fifty.
(35:07):
I'm way more healthy. My wife feeds me all kinds
of supplements morning and night, and I've got more energy
than I had ten years ago, certainly more energy than
I had right before COVID. And when I got COVID
in February of twenty twenty, I could hardly do farm
chores anymore. I could hardly walk up the hill. I
(35:29):
was in sad shape. And then they convinced us, or
convinced me, that all I needed to cure my long
COVID was to get another jab in more of that
spike protein and it would kick my immune system into response.
Stupid me. Plus I had to get a job in
order to travel internationally, and that I had all kinds
(35:52):
of heart complications, neurologic complications, pot syndrome, restless leg syndrome,
et cetera. Et cetera. I started taking Nato kaines that
might help, but it really the thing that really helped
me recover from all of that was changing the diet
and drawing the well.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And I'm sure that's going to be encouraging because we
have people who are reporting, you know, as we said
early on, uh, you know, the issue of vaccination syndrome
exactly exactly, and so so here it is. You know, I,
you know, I didn't get vaccinated, all right, and and
it bothers me even this day when I go in
(36:32):
and you know, they they want to do a you know,
if I go to the doctor's office and one of
the questions they ask if you and vaccinated? Why do
you want to know?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
By the way, Bill, you know how you answer that question?
Oh you say yes, you don't just say which vaccine? Okay,
I'm sure at some point and I say that if
you run into the questions guy, yeah, when you go
through the airport lines, have you been vaccinated?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yes, sir, yes, yes, sir. Yeah. No, that's a good thing.
I hadn't even thought about that. But you're exactly right,
because the thing is I get concerned about it is like,
you know, I go in for surgery last year and
have a hip replacement. And one of the questions they asked,
I go no, and I go, well, I'm a sleeper.
They're going to say, hey, let's give them a little
bonus here. You know, you can get vaccine, and so
we're going to give them one free of charge. Yeah,
he's out right.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's it's maybe it's a little duplicitous, but it's adaptive
in this environment. I love it. Just say yeah, I've
been vaccinated. Uh which vaccine? Well, I took a flu
vaccine once, right exactly, and.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I got the flu. My mother is always yelling me, honey,
you got to get the flu shot, and I go,
why every time I do, I get the flu. So
I stopped doing that. I don't get the flu as often.
You know, I got it this time, lucky me. But
that's okay. But anyway, I was starting to tell you
when I got COVID, I just monitor, you know, because
doctor Founci said, oh, your immune system can only handle
(37:48):
it for maybe a couple of months and that sort
of thing. Right, So I'm monitored. I monitored my tea
cells to see how it was holding up. And for
now three years, my markers are as strong as ever.
Thank you very much my daughter in law who gave
me COVID that has made me immune from that. So
I'm thankful.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Good good job.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah. So, you know, we all did things for you know,
in certain people, and I feel for him. In the military,
I'm glad that some of them are getting brought back
with back pay and everything. I think that's the right
thing to do, right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, a lot of them are so pissed off they
won't even touch it anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah. I don't blame some of them. I mean here
they were in some cases. I spoke with a Marine
Corps major. He's maybe eighteen months from retirement, out the door,
loses everything, but he just you know, he just said,
I just could not. I could not do it. So
I'm hoping that he, you know, he's able to get
some reinstatement or something, you know, early retirement, give him
(38:51):
a bonus. I mean, eighteen and a half years he
serves as the country and because he doesn't take the jab,
they kick him out and he loses his retirement.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, that should it sounds like under Trump's policies, that
should be corrected.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I think so. I think some of these things will be. Look,
we got about, you know, nine minutes left, and I
promised that we would talk about your book. Let's talk
about cy war, tell our audience about it.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So as I was saying, now that the USA AI
d uh doge documents have dropped, and we learned that.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
You know, the quip is if it's too dirty for
the CIA, they give it to the U s A
I d all the dirty tricks that have been going
on and their manipulation of media globally.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Uh that it what what has gone down with that?
And the Twitter files, the Facebook files and the disclosure
sense and has really validated the thesis of the book,
which is the government has been our government. And by
the way, the British government against the British people, and
the Canadian government against the Canadian people, and the Australian
government against you know in New Zealand. All all of
(39:57):
these governments that are in the five Eyes A line
in particular, have deployed military grade psychological warfare technology on
their own citizens and this has become normalized. They call
it fifth generation warfare. The suite of technologies was developed
for the Color Revolutions, air buppring, et cetera. For regime
(40:21):
change quote unquote, you know, ostensibly bloodless regime change, meaning
we don't have to send troops there. We just have
to send bits and and teach people how to use
Twitter and Facebook and let the magic of the Internet
do its thing, all all carefully manipulated, of course, with
(40:43):
information manipulated, but that that's that tech was developed for
that purpose and also to counter the Taliban and al Qaida.
And now you know, at the past of among others,
Obama with that Hoover speech where he said that censorship
is necessary to preserved democracy. And what we've seen with USAID,
(41:06):
they have actively deployed this against their own citizens in
the context of COVID, But it turns out they're doing
it for a lot of things. And the COVID logic
was that, well, none of us are safe until everybody's
been vaccinated. The product is safe and effective, and we're
(41:27):
not going to tell you if it isn't because that
would cause vaccine hesitancy. And it was the president by.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And they don't have any liability anyway, right, they're protective.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, Well, we'll see about that. In terms of so
that the government extended indemnification essentially through some kind of
hook and crook strategies in terms of how they contracted
the likes affser But you know, on the table is
a discussion of whether or not these beer crafts that
(42:01):
push this and push the censorship are potentially going to
be able to be held personally liable. So Cybar is
a book that comes out of in many ways, out
of our own experience. It follows on our prior book,
Lies my government told me in the Better Future Coming,
And like with a Lies, we had serialized through substack
(42:24):
a series of essays focusing on fifth generational warfare, psychological warfare,
and what was going on in social media as we
were observing it, and what was going on with corporate
media what my wife likes to call dead media now
and even more dead when you see the numbers coming
out of MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And tell your wife, I'm going to steal that from
her dead media. Yea, yes exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
You can look at her essay today about joy read.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, yes, that's right. More so is the view going
to be Did they finally decide on the view.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I don't know about the view. I'm all for rearranging
that one too.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, because they got thirty four lawsuits, and the stockholders
you're saying, get it out of here, We're done, we
can't afford it anymore. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Well, their viewership numbers are frankly one twentieth of what
I get on a monthly basis from sub stack and
from podcasts like that. Right, So, and I can guarantee
I don't have a ten plus million dollar monthly budget. Yeah,
(43:34):
I get so something's not working there. And if I
was one of the shareholders, I would be jumping up
and down and screaming and tearing out my hair. So yeah,
so you know what the truth of it is that
the whole system has been corrupted soup to nuts in
corporate media. Long ago I talked about the Trusted News Initiative,
(43:57):
and in fact, the website wiki spooks credits me with
the person that kind of smoked that out. Trusted News
Initiative something launched by BBC initially to resist Russian propaganda
and then before strangely before the outbreak in twenty nineteen,
it was rejiggered to also focus on vaccine disinformation and
(44:22):
anti vaxxers and suppressing their voices. So the book kind
of walks you through both historically the history of propaganda,
going back to Edward Brenees the United States government's use
of propaganda and psychological warfare against civilians starting with the
assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and carries forward to
(44:46):
the future and talks about in more advanced topics things
like psychological bioterrorism was just what we saw with COVID
and what is now being deployed with bird flu and
for instance, surveillance capitalism, the business model that drives Silicon
Valley profits that involves, without your permission, scooping up all
(45:08):
data they can about you to build what they call
behavioral futures, which is a computational model of who you are,
what you think, what you believe, what your interests are,
what you're going to buy, and then sells all that.
I assert that functionally, what they're doing, because it's theft,
is they're stealing part of your soul and then reselling it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, and it's almost as bad as you know what's
happening in China. I mean, it's just it's well, they.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Love the China model. That's where all this is going.
They love the China model. Yes, and so the book
kind of is intended to educate. I think along the thesis,
you could almost say, maybe not the perfect analogy. It's
a vaccine for your mind, Yeah, to help you see
(45:57):
what's being done in this world in which they seek
to control all information. They seek to shape and control
your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions, your desires. That's the
goal here, is completely controlling that. And if you think
it through, but two things come out of that, they're
(46:19):
kind of not so nice. One is because literally the
entire information landscape is being manipular. You can't easily tell
who's real and who's false, who's genuine, who's your friend,
who's your enemy. All of that becomes much more difficult
in fifth generation warner in psychological warfare landscape. And have
(46:40):
no mistake you are, whether or not you consider yourself
a victim, you are a recipient of psychological warfare coming
at you from a variety of sources, not the least
of which is your government. And so you can't really
tell who's friend and foe, what's real and what's false,
And furthermore, can't really be confident the things you are
(47:03):
thinking are your own thoughts or they've been planted in you.
Exactly for the word you have a government that feels
that it's acceptable. Yeah, that's the thing that man really
your mind and try to control your mind. And that
is just completely opposed. It's diametrically opposed. Its anathema. It
(47:26):
is inconsistent with our ability to make reason the choices
about governments. It's inconsistent with the sovereignty and autonomy of
individuals as voters, as citizens.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
And as you say, it's all part of the new
world order. I mean, and we are forewarned. You and
your wife co authored the book. Congratulations. It really is
a gift to America what you've given us in this book.
So I wore The book available at all the usual places, right,
doctor Malone.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Well spoken, and you can also buy it directly from
the publisher, Skyhurst Publisher. And by the way, if you
are an audiobook person, unfortunately you can only get the
audiobook from Amazon or Fortunately, depending on where you are
in the political spectrum about Jeff Bezos. But in any case,
I sat at this very chair for hours and hours
(48:23):
and hours in the middle of the night because my
neighbors make too much noise on the road that goes
down there with their motorbikes, recording that darn thing between
ten pm and four in the morning, so that you
don't have to read the book. If you don't feel
like it. You can get the audio book and listen
to it with your earbuds while you're vacuuming or sitting
(48:45):
in traffic or whatever it is that you do.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
And Doctor Malone's own voice, ladies and gentlemen, just for you.
What a gift, Doctor Malone. Thank you so much. The
substack real quick as we wrap things up. How do
they connect with your substack?
Speaker 3 (48:58):
It's easy to find Malone dot New It used to
be called who is Robert Malone on substack. You can
find it through both of those routes. And thank you
so much for that bill. It's the substack. You don't
make any money on books these days. Sorry to say.
I know I've disillusioned you, but you what pays for
(49:21):
the horse feed on this little farm is substack. In
our small subset of subscribers, we've got something like four
hundred thousand that subscribe to it, but of those only
about thirteen thousand, five hundred pay a monthly fee. But
it's enough.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well again, our gratitude for coming on. We appreciate the
time Doctor Malone. You take care all right.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Thanks Bill, Thanks for having me takes care.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Hey our thanks to as I say, doctor Robert Malone.
Gosh a'ta what resource. And the fact that he's on
our side. I like that he's on our side, watching
out for us. And you know, he's been an advocate
of good health. And of course he tells his own
story about how he lost fifty pounds going from being
(50:09):
a vegan and listening to his doctor's advice and you know,
and enjoying, you know, a good stake every once in
a while. There's nothing wrong with that, hey r. Thanks
to you. Thank you so much for being with us
and sharing a part of your day with us. May
God bless you and keep you, May make his face
shine upon you and be gracious unto you, and may
(50:29):
you realize his peace. Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you, God blessed.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
We hello and welcome Bill Martinez here. Good to have
you with us, and yeah, we've got a great show
planning for you. Doctor Robert Malone, he is the inventor
of mRNA right, which we heard you know, and heard
so much about and learned about. We didn't know about
it before COVID nineteen, but he is the inventor. In fact,
(00:59):
he made a com here recently that it looks like
there are I guess I don't know, I'm using my
words unexpected complications involved with the process alone himself, and
we were looking forward to talking to him getting into
more detail about it. Also about the confirmation of RFK
(01:20):
Junior Will America. Will he be able to make America
healthy again in spite of all the pushback and the
resistance that he's been attacked by. Also, and this is breaking.
Last week was reported here on the show about a
Yale study investigation that talks about post vaccination syndrome that's
(01:46):
being linked to COVID nineteen vaccines. Are you ready for this?
It's a recent study by Yale University researchers. Okay, not
a bunch of wannabes in some back room somewhere. They've
identified a rare condition that they're terming post vaccination syndrome
or PVS in a subset of individuals following COVID nineteen vaccination. Now,
(02:09):
this condition manifests with chronic symptoms such as brain fog, dizzyness, tniitis, exercise,
and dolarance. Now, the study provides initial insights into the
biological changes associated with PVS, including alterations and immune cells
in the presence of coronavirus proteins long after vaccination. As
(02:31):
I mentioned, this was reported last week on our show
by John Fleetwood from Johnfleetwood dot com. And the interesting things.
Remember when we were told about the vaccination was supposed
to stay in one spot right. Well, of course they're
realizing that's not necessarily the case. It was also supposed
to be vacated out of the body system within a
(02:51):
relatively short amount of time. Well, this study is saying
that actually the vaccine stays in the body seven hundred
and nine days. Seven hundred and nine days. Is that incredible?
Telling you, it's no wonder that people have lost confidence
in our government, in the health system. And also why
(03:14):
they were pushing the Trump administration to get Bobby Kennedy
Junior in place to do something about our health system.
And of course you saw the pushback coming from the left.
Just you know, and you wonder, you go, how do
you defend the indefensible? I mean, that just seems to
be the theme time and time again. Everything that the
administration is doing is as Donald Trump said in the
(03:38):
final days of his campaign, it's common sense. And I
believe this is where America is at. This is the
age of common sense that we've entered into. And so anyway,
I'm excited, as I mentioned to you, to be talking
with doctor Robert Malone, who is here with us now.
So we're going to bring him on the show. Robert
(04:00):
Malone joins us. Now, Hi, Bill, how you doing. Hey,
I'm doing great, Doctor Maloan, good to see again. Thank
you so much for making the time excited to talk
to you about RFK. Junior also reports on this latest
Yale study that I'm sure you're up on as well.
But first of all, first things first, let's talk about
RFK making America healthy again.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, I'm just back from Seapack and Dounia Kellik and
I had a session talking about Maha. Unfortunately Bobby couldn't
be there. He's still really overwhelmed. I think maybe that's
too strong a word by the tyranny of the urgent.
He is in the mix right now dealing with all
(04:42):
the fires that are burning in hhets well.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I just thought, I thought maybe you were going to
tell me that he was delayed because he was busy
filling out the five things he did last week for DOGE.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah. Yeah, probably he's dog exempt.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I suspect, well, but I suspect it's more than five
things that he did. Even in the first day after
he was.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Going to list five things, it's probably a problem of
figuring out what the top five are. So is Bobby
going to succeed? I don't know, You don't know what
is success. Trump has defined success for Bobby Kennedy and
the MAHA Commission, which he's established in Executive Order, as
(05:26):
measurable improvements in the health of US citizens within twelve
to eighteen months. He's also defined in that executive order
what the primary focus is going to be. It's definitely
chronic diseases, and it is more specifically chronic diseases in
particular of children. So the focus is on children, which
(05:47):
is consistent with Children's Health Defense. Bobby's the group that
he formerly served as a chairdren of the board on
and is often associated with, even though some of his
greatest successes were with water keepers and even before that
against Montano with his UH law practice. But UH, the
(06:07):
focus is going to be on children's health, and hence
you've seen the announcements about UH rebuilding, reforming or replacing
bears UH in the announcements shutting down a lot of
the CDC communication and the stopping of the UH A
C I P. The UH UH UH I'm suddenly blanking
(06:31):
on the acronym Advisory Committee on Humanization Practices UH. And
with that, you know when an A C I P
meeting is canceled. Uh a bell rings. No when with
an angel, it's nice to have it. When the A
C I P meeting gets canceled, usually that means that
some vaccine product that farmer is lobbying for is held
(06:55):
in a bay.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are we gonna end up just as a sidebar? I mean,
Donald Trump seems to be picking zar. Whether it's the border.
We've got a pardoning zar. Now is there going to
be a vaccination zar?
Speaker 3 (07:05):
I haven't heard that. I you'll recall that Bobby was
offered the czar position to avoid congressional conformation confirmation process
for us D A, F B, A C, D C
and N I H. So that would would that that
(07:26):
offer took Medicare Medicaid off the table, and apparently Bobby
insisted that he would really rather prefer to go through
the confirmation process. Uh barrel and uh, you know, over
the waterfall, and uh take his risks in order to
have that broadened set of rules and responsibilities. So is
(07:49):
he going to succeed? It's it's all in the details.
It's all in the second, third, and fourth tier appointments,
and some of those have been rushed in while he
was distracted by the confirmation process, Jerry Parker being a
notable example, Jerry Parker being a former associate dean. I
guess former because we only have the cd CD CDs report.
(08:14):
Sorry I'm being challenged here. CBS report that Jerry Parker
has been appointed to the job of the White House
Office of Pandemic Planning. Jerry Parker is the at Texas
a m you uh he was serving. He's a DVM
(08:37):
PhD and was serving as Associate dean of One Health,
so he's very much behind One Health. And by the way,
he is another one of these vaccine advocates that Peter
Hotez has done repeated podcasts with, and Peter Hotez wrote
(08:58):
the forward for Jerry Parker's new book, Jerry Yeah, So
he's wrote his new book forward to it. So he's
very much in that One Health initiative is a big
part of Agenda twenty thirty. It's a very much globalist
initiative supported by a World Health Organization and the United Nations,
(09:23):
and it defines that human health is on par and
priority with environmental health and animal health. As one person
posted on my subs stack the other day or on Twitter,
so I would rather sacrifice a labrat and have my
grandmother have a better standard of living than to preserve
(09:46):
the labrat, and that kind of it's a little snarky,
but it captures the essence of the objections to the
One Health Initiative, which is absolutely aligned with you know,
in terms of the environmental impact part. It's explicitly aligned
with the Climate change Initiative or or green energy initiatives.
(10:12):
It's another part of this whole globalist network. And Jerry
Parker is in on it. And Jerry Parker kind of
got snuck in that office in the White House without
Bobby having any knowledge of it. How do I know
that Bobby didn't know because when I told him about it,
he didn't know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well. Well, plus, it's just so out of whack. It's
an oxymorn. I mean, it's even against Donald Trump's you know, agenda.
There's a glaring conflict there. We're talking with doctor Robert Malone.
He's the author of Cyward. I didn't get a chance
to tell you about that, and we're going to talk
more about his new book, Sye War Enforcing the New
World Order, which I think is appropriate in light of
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what we're talking right now.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I feel I'm not only have I now been vindicated
by Joe Rogan and that thank you Joe for that clinic,
but also by the USAID DOGE disclosures, which have pretty
much validated most of the thesis of the book A Cybor.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yes, well, doctor Malone. I mean this executive order that
Donald Trump sign with RFK and Maha, I mean eighteen months,
that's moving fast. If you're in Robert shoes RFK junior shoes,
what's the low hanging fruit that he can get to
right away to demonstrate that he's serious and that he
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can begin to get the job done, because, as we
know in government, even a four year term of what
Donald Trump's trying to do. I mean, I'm glad he's
moving as fast as he is, but it's getting the
rest of the government to move along.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I made mention that people were whining because you know,
Doe says, hey, tell me the five things that you
did last week on behalf of the government, And they
went into the field position and their thumb was in
their mouth and they're whining about it. You're going, wait
a minute.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
The mouth is one orifice that the thumb was inserted,
So you're.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
A doctor, So you could get into those other orifices,
but I didn't want to quite go there only.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
For prostate exams.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So yeah, getting back to it, what can Bobby do
to meet the president's mandate. One thing that is quite
notable is that the number of fentanyl deaths on a
daily basis probably substantially exceeds three hundred. Okay, So there
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are a number of steps that can be done to
change the arc of the fentanyl crisis. And there's a
number of facts that people don't understand about pentel. Of course,
it's being imported by the Chinese. It's an aggressive action.
It's an intentional aggressive action. It is, you know, basically
powdered murder. Donald Trump, his credit, has taken this policy
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of well number one. He called the Premieerr of China
and complained about it. But he put a embargo on
small packages, which is how they slipped. The ventanyl inel
is so powerful that the amount of fentanyl necessary to
cover the date on a penny will kill you.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Okay, think about that. Well, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
They here's another fun factory bill. Uh. You probably have
a mental image that the people that are dying from
fentanyl or desperate opioid abuse or drugies. Right, Well, I've
seen a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
No, I understand some people might not.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
They're not who is dying. Mostly the people that are
mostly dying are unintentional unknowing poisonings. How does this happen?
They basically I did a cut the other day with
Laura Logan that will air soon in which we dove
into this. Laura is a bona fide expert on ventyl
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from a journalist standpoint, and so she asserts that none
of the street drugs, the pill street drugs that are
available are what they are advertised as. Even methamphetamine is
basically fentanyl laced with other things. Fedanyl is like the
do all drug for the dealer and has the advantage
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of being so potent with so little, So they can
put a bunch of baby powder together, put in a
tablet press and that a little bit of fentyl and
call it methamphetamine, and it's it is used, among other things,
to enhance the potency of marijuana. So these and I'm
also told I haven't confirmed this, that ventanyl is legal
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in the state of Colorado in small amounts. So what
they do is they dust it onto the marijuana that
they're selling. And you know, this can be in legal
shops also, it can be in the gummies. Uh. And
uh So some poor soul goes in to buy his
weed bang from the local uh you know, state state
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chartered dope dealer, right and uh and he gets this
bag that's been dusted with fentyl and and he gets
a fedyl dose. And you know, if somebody screws up
and put too much in there, he's debt. Uh. And
that's that, you know that in the the team that
has just scored whatever the pill is, that he thinks
he's bought. Uh, and then he gets a dose of
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fentanyl or he takes two pills instead of one.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
The thing is, these are mostly unintentional poisonings.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, you're hearing stories, doctor Malone of college students you know,
wanting to you know, they're doing an all nighter because
there's a term paper or whatever that they're doing.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Right, And so then here it is the O D
and you're hearing stories timing again from these parents. And
the thing is, you think about it, and I haven't
looked at the demographic numbers, but it seems like a
lot of young people are caught in this net and
this is the future of our country that's being destroyed here. Yep.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So actually I'm now connected with a guy. He's a
software engineer that made a bunch of money and he
was working on healthcare software and saw all these numbers
and he got so upset about it he decided he
was going to do something about it. He's one of
these guys of the good heart, and so he created
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a company called the Fentanyl Test, and he has created
a the best test for fentanyl to dipstick tests, So
you can do urine, but you can also wipe it
on whatever the substance is and put it in a
little bit of water and put this dipstick in and
tell right away whether or not you've got fentl. It's
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like within a couple of minutes. And it has a
sensitively of a nanogram the competing one that they've all
been using, the cops and the you know, the pathologists,
et cetera. It has a sensitivity of two hundred nanograms,
which to translate that two hundred nanograms is a lethal dose.
So that the test that all the government is using
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right now and paying big money for is basically just
allowing them to do a feed up, feet down test.
You know, if if you've got that level, you're already dead, right,
So it's totally useless for any kind of a screening purpose.
Now I am told that in the prisons that fentanyl
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is being flown in by drone because it's so light,
they can use these little, tiny mini drones and get
it in across the prison walls. So a lot of
the convicts are using it. The reason they're using it
is because they don't test for fentyl. They test for
a lot of other things, but it's too expensive to
run the fentanyl test, and so the prison system isn't
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testing for petnyl, and so they're all doing fentyl. So
that is the bona fide user community. But petanyl is
is something, as I said, well over three hundred a
day deaths, and why you know, we don't know the
number because what it is doing is apparently killing off
the homeless population at an amazing rate. And the homeless
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never get autopsies when they die, right, so we don't
actually know what's going on there. But petnel is one
thing that Bobby can take a crack at, and he
could do it in a number of ways, and getting
behind this test is one of them. And then and
the test is clear cleared, and you know it's all
on the up and up and getting square with the FDA.
So another big one is the whole issue of obesity.
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Obesity is what drives a lot of cardiovascular disease. Really
the diabetes. Of course, obesity is the one wearing that
rules them all in health, frankly, and we are absolutely
in the grip of an epidemic of obese ob and
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a lot of that is driven by highly processed foods.
And within that domainment of highly processed foods, it's foods
that use seed oils. So one thing he can do
there is to you know, there's a there's a potential
labeling issue this. I'm about to write an essay about
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all of this because it's really challenging from a libertarian standpoint.
You don't want the government being even more of a
nanny state, and yet you don't want poison in our food.
So we have to find some happy medium there. I
like to say, as I did at seapac, if if
somebody wishes to eat a lot of McDonald's hamburgers and
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drink coca Cola.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
It's their right to do so, exactly, even if he
is the president of the United States.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
You said it, not me, so yeah, my wife told
me I couldn't say that name when I gave that example.
So you get the point. Yes, but obesity is a
big one, diet is a big one. One of the
ones that I would like to see Congress move on
that they could do very easily, is to prohibit the
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use of glyphas Say, that's round up for those who
are exactly on the a lexicon, the use of glyphis
sate as a desicon. You know, what's that, Bill? You
ever heard about that?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, I've heard of glyswade, but not as a Here's
the backstory.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
This has been going on for about ten years now.
Virtually all of our greens, corn, wheat, and soy are
contaminated with glyphasate. Why you ask me, well, thank you
for asking, Bill. Yes, the answer is it's a dessicond.
What the heck does that mean. Here's this situation that
the modern farmer bases and remember there are no more
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small farms, they are gone, except that these are corporate
fish and the Mennonites. So you're running this, you know
thousand plus acre operation and you're growing corn and beans
because you know in the Midwest that's kind of the
way it is. You rotate those two crops, growing corn
and beans, and you need to harvest them. But the
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combine harvester that you need for your weaed or your corner,
your oats or your soybeans or whatever is runs into
the millions. So what you're gonna do, You're gonna go
even more deeply in debt to John Deere or what's
your alternative. What you do is you sign up with
an operation that just does harvesting. So there are you know,
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they're kind of like gypsies almost, these people that drive
around and they have a harvester and they'll come through
and harvest your field and that's how they pay off
the debt. And so they they have to be on
scheduled and then move through your farm and then to
move through your neighbor's farm and then and everybody has
got to be on schedule. Well, how are you going
to schedule the drying out of your crop so it's
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all uniformly dried. The answer is you spray it with roundup.
You spray it with round up right before it's harvested
so that then it dies in the grain or the
soybeans all die at the same time. They all dry
at the same time, and then you can handle the
scheduling with the combine harvester coming through that you've got
on contract. And so you can appreciate that all this
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feeds up to big egg in big finance, because that's
what drives everything in this world, particularly agriculture days. And
just like the chicken farmer in these days is essentially
an indentured servant of Tyson's Food, the farmer is also
an indentured servant of Wall Street and investment funds and whatever,
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and so they don't have any choice. They have to
do this. And so it's only been going on for
about a deck aid, so there's still memory of the
old days. Personally, I think the idea that you know,
I haven't heard anybody in the guvey's talking about this,
but this is a place that UH small business administration
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in the U s. D A and HHS could all
find common ground and find some way to capitalize at
very modest rates because of the public good. UH smaller
harvesters that can handle smaller groups of farms so that
they can have flexibility about when they harvest and then
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forbid the use of these dessiconts. Why should what's the
link between what I was just saying in dessecants and
ground up. Well, there's a ton of data. We've covered
this in our sub stack about glypha sate and glycasate exposure,
and particularly glyphysate exposure during pregnancy, and they've used animal models,
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et cetera. But basically two things are linked to glycostate
exposure during pregnancy to the fetus. One of them is obesity,
the other one autism.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Autism. Yeah, exactly. Wow. We're talking with the doctor Robert
Malone about making America healthy again, and it starts with
the consent of the government. You know, the onus is
really on us. We've we've you know, subordinated our brains
to the government said okay, hey, we trust you to
take care of us. And now we're getting fat, we're
(24:37):
dealing with carcinogens and cancer continues to increase. Seventy percent
of the country is obese and it's going all in
the wrong direction.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So another thing that I know is on the table
right now in HHS and being actively worked on, is
reworking the food pyramid.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, that thing is.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
A hot mess. It reflects lobbying over decades and it
doesn't really have any connection to the science actual data About.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
What should the pyramid look like, Robert, I.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Think it needs to be a lot more heavy on protein,
a lot less heavy on carbs, parly sugar. You know,
the emphasis on veg. That's good. There's a lot of
ups there. But we do need to have protein in
our diet, and I think we need to emphasize meat
a lot more than we have currently. There's a lot
of upside with meat, particularly beef, and I stand as
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a testimony to that. I've I switched from a vegetarian
diet almost two years ago at insistence of my doctor,
Brooke Miller, who lives locally, is a primary care doc.
It also happens to be a black angus rancher.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
But he drew my blood for folding.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
We got to say, but he's like seventh generation angus
leader here in Virginia. He's he. I mean, he could
step onto the set of Yellowstone and you wouldn't blink
an eye. Oh wow, so's he's the real deal. Except
he's a doc also, and he drew my bloods and
my inflammatory markers are out of control.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And he said, Robert, as a vegetarian, your markers are
out of control. Amazing.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, And well, because modern you know, and if you're
living a busy lifestyle and you're trying to eat vegetarian,
you end up eating a lot of processed foods. They
happen to be soy based, but there's still processed foods
and they still got all those contaminants. So he said, Robert,
you got to change your diet or it's going to
kill you. And I did. I listened to him and
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switched over to a carnivore diet, very heavy on beef,
and I've dropped fifty pounds.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Wow, that's mean. So what was that like for you,
the first taste of beef in all those years of
being a vegetarian. What was that like?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Well, kind of like fake meat, only better?
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Good answer. I love that. That's great bake meat, but
only better. I love that. Well, Okay, so the pyramid
itself needs to be altered.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
We're gonna get away with being done right now.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, and and then we're going to get away from
these oil seed oil based oils.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
And that may have to be handled initially at the
education level of you know that Bobby has a bully pulpit. Yes,
and he is an excellent communicator and he walks the walk.
I mean I wrote in a subtect of the day
where I was talking about one of his favorite supplements,
methylin blue methyl. So he uses methylin blue and and
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it actually at the proper dose has all kinds of upsides.
It boosts your mitochondrial function. The mitochondria is it's kind
of a little power plant in each air of ourselves.
And uh, that's a that's another long story. What is
the mitochondria and where to get there? But uh, in
any case, it boosts the efficiency and activity or mitochondria
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is you have more energy. This includes cognition, uh, overall
energy state. But it's got to be at the right dose.
And uh my comment about body as as kind of
an advocate and user of this material, which is not
FDA authorized, uh, is that we now have an HHS secretary.
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It is both a bodybuilder and a biohacker.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You look, you look at him, you look at him
doing you know he's there, We're in you know, I
say Santa Monica, but you know at muscle Beach and
you know doing his uh his head stand, uh, lifting
weights and everything like that. I mean his body. I
mean it's like whoa. I mean, yeah, you want to
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listen to this guy, right, as opposed to listen to
somebody who's, you know, fifty eighty pounds overweight.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Or the former assistant secretary of HHS. What was her name,
Rachel Rachel Levine?
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Yeah, yeah, she was confused out the door. So I mean,
you know, I want to listen to her, right, Not
much a role model.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
So when I think of a president, you know, I'm
of a certain age as you are you. When I
think of a prior president that was this enthusiastic about him,
one that comes to mind is John F.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Kennedy right away exactly. Remember he got everybody exercising.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Yep, and he considered it basically a national defense issue.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah yeah, and why wouldn't we now write and I
think with Pete hegseth in with the military right now,
doctor Malunge. I mean he's out there working out with
the guys, even in the coll I mean he's wearing shorts,
A couple of guys wearing shorts, everybody else in the
long bands. I mean he's uh, he's he's roughing it up, but.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
He's the real deal too. You know, we got we've
got a bunch of uh uh non pretenders.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
And and we've been swimming in uh you know, fakes
uh frankly for the last four years, a.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Lot of closures.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
We would say, yes, exactly, it's refreshing.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Well. And as you say, Bobby Kennedy has the pulpit
right now, which you know is on rent from Don
from Donald Trump, no doubt. And so this makes this
all viable. And and I and I think we have
and I've been saying this with our audience for quite
a while, doctor Malone, is that we have a small
window of opportunity and wish to do something rather grand, uh,
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but it's it's going to require we the people, because
this is the government of we the people, and so
we need to get involved. And I think that we're
eager to do this because you know, I don't I
don't talk to anybody says hey, I hope I die
when I'm twenty. You know, it's like the old Yogi
Barras statement, right, he said, if I knew I was
going to live this long, I'd have taken better care
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of myself. And I think that's the attitude of most
Americans is that we don't we don't want somebody else
to do it for us. We can take responsibility, but
we just need to have the right information instead of
just trusting you know, big Pharma and all these other
agricultural groups that are thinking about profit over the health
of American citizens.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Amen, we're on the same page. And with that decentralized
bottom up approach comes responsibility, personal responsibility, taking personal responsibility
for your health. If you don't want the nanny state
in your face, then you know, cowboy up and take
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personal responsibility. Lose that weight, make those sacrifices, don't eat
that crab food. I'm more fact that I I love
Italian food, but uh pasa has just had to go
out the window. And that's one of my biggest sacrifices
on the dio.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Side, for me being Hispanic. Being Hispanic, it's flower tortillas
and that.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, well at least the flower tortillas. So make sure
if you're going to do flower trtillas you get the
ones with lart yes as opposed to the hydrogenated vegetables
the big chains will sell you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You see, that was in the old day. See my mother,
Oh my goodness, oh wow, you just brought me back.
I mean, stacks of tortillas. But it was all with
Crisco lart, you know. And and there was this special
flower that came from Mexico that is no longer in existence.
They got rid of that.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
But that bill I was once when I was much younger. Uh,
family went down to Baja Okay and to was it
a he had a little colorful uh. I forget which
bay it was. But as we were heading out, we
there was a beehive oven and it was dusty beside
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the road, beehive oven, an old lady working it, and
we stopped and got some tartillas. I am never going
to have tartillas that good for the rest of my life.
I've just given up, never going to happen.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, maybe in heaven, maybe in heaven to heaven. I
keep thinking, you know, my mom and all the other
Mexican ladies will they'll have flower tortillas for us and
Tamali's you know.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I mean, I think you and I have got to
find a good Mexican food joint. They're hard to find
here in Virginia. Everything comes out of a.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Can yes, I know is that at some but like
you said, getting back to the processed foods and the
education of America, and I just think I think right now,
doctor Malin. You know when I'm talking to people, say hey,
I'm going to talk with Robert Robert malonea today and
they were really excited to hear about that. And that
is that I think the the idea of awareness has increases,
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like all of a sudden, somebody turned the light on
and people going, oh, that's right, I am fat. Oh
that's right. I've been eating all these processed foods. Oh,
the red dyes, all the different dyes that Bobby talked about,
I've been consuming them all these years. I'm lucky to
be alive.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah. So the bully pulpit, if if we all take responsibility,
we can help Bobby achieve his goal. That's the truth of.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
It, which is for us, his goal is our goal.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Right, yeah, absolutely right.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah. And you know, look at it's not a political thing.
This is bipartisan. It doesn't matter if you have an
R or D. It's just everybody wants to live healthy.
We went, we don't want to be a liability, you know,
to our kids and our family members.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Have some pride as an American, whatever your placed on
the spectrum. Uh you know when when when I travel
back from Europe or europe Europeans travel into American airports,
they are stunned, Oh yeah, by looking at people walking around.
And I don't want to fat shame people, but hey,
let's get on the program. I did it. I dropped fifty.
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I'm way more healthy. My wife feeds me all kinds
of supplements morning and night, and I've got more energy
than I had ten years ago, certainly more energy than
I had right before COVID. And when I got COVID
in February of twenty twenty, I could hardly do farm
chores anymore. I could hardly walk up the hill. I
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was in sad shape. And then they convinced us, or
convinced me, that all I needed to cure my long
COVID was to get another jab in more of that
spike protein and it would kick my immune system into response.
Stupid me. Plus I had to get a job in
order to travel internationally, and that I had all kinds
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of heart complications, neurologic complications, pot syndrome, restless leg syndrome,
et cetera. Et cetera. I started taking Nato kaines that
might help, but it really the thing that really helped
me recover from all of that was changing the diet
and drawing the well.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And I'm sure that's going to be encouraging because we
have people who are reporting, you know, as we said
early on, uh, you know, the issue of vaccination syndrome
exactly exactly, and so so here it is. You know, I,
you know, I didn't get vaccinated, all right, and and
it bothers me even this day when I go in
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and you know, they they want to do a you know,
if I go to the doctor's office and one of
the questions they ask if you and vaccinated? Why do
you want to know?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
By the way, Bill, you know how you answer that question?
Oh you say yes, you don't just say which vaccine? Okay,
I'm sure at some point and I say that if
you run into the questions guy, yeah, when you go
through the airport lines, have you been vaccinated?
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yes, sir, yes, yes, sir. Yeah. No, that's a good thing.
I hadn't even thought about that. But you're exactly right,
because the thing is I get concerned about it is like,
you know, I go in for surgery last year and
have a hip replacement. And one of the questions they asked,
I go no, and I go, well, I'm a sleeper.
They're going to say, hey, let's give them a little
bonus here. You know, you can get vaccine, and so
we're going to give them one free of charge. Yeah,
he's out right.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
It's it's maybe it's a little duplicitous, but it's adaptive
in this environment. I love it. Just say yeah, I've
been vaccinated. Uh which vaccine? Well, I took a flu
vaccine once, right exactly, and.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
I got the flu. My mother is always yelling me, honey,
you got to get the flu shot, and I go,
why every time I do, I get the flu. So
I stopped doing that. I don't get the flu as often.
You know, I got it this time, lucky me. But
that's okay. But anyway, I was starting to tell you
when I got COVID, I just monitor, you know, because
doctor Founci said, oh, your immune system can only handle
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it for maybe a couple of months and that sort
of thing. Right, So I'm monitored. I monitored my tea
cells to see how it was holding up. And for
now three years, my markers are as strong as ever.
Thank you very much my daughter in law who gave
me COVID that has made me immune from that. So
I'm thankful.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Good good job.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah. So, you know, we all did things for you know,
in certain people, and I feel for him. In the military,
I'm glad that some of them are getting brought back
with back pay and everything. I think that's the right
thing to do, right.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, a lot of them are so pissed off they
won't even touch it anymore.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yeah. I don't blame some of them. I mean here
they were in some cases. I spoke with a Marine
Corps major. He's maybe eighteen months from retirement, out the door,
loses everything, but he just you know, he just said,
I just could not. I could not do it. So
I'm hoping that he, you know, he's able to get
some reinstatement or something, you know, early retirement, give him
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a bonus. I mean, eighteen and a half years he
serves as the country and because he doesn't take the jab,
they kick him out and he loses his retirement.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Yeah, that should it sounds like under Trump's policies, that
should be corrected.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
I think so. I think some of these things will be. Look,
we got about, you know, nine minutes left, and I
promised that we would talk about your book. Let's talk
about cy war, tell our audience about it.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
So as I was saying, now that the USA AI
d uh doge documents have dropped, and we learned that.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
You know, the quip is if it's too dirty for
the CIA, they give it to the U s A
I d all the dirty tricks that have been going
on and their manipulation of media globally.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Uh that it what what has gone down with that?
And the Twitter files, the Facebook files and the disclosure
sense and has really validated the thesis of the book,
which is the government has been our government. And by
the way, the British government against the British people, and
the Canadian government against the Canadian people, and the Australian
government against you know in New Zealand. All all of
(39:57):
these governments that are in the five Eyes A line
in particular, have deployed military grade psychological warfare technology on
their own citizens and this has become normalized. They call
it fifth generation warfare. The suite of technologies was developed
for the Color Revolutions, air buppring, et cetera. For regime
(40:21):
change quote unquote, you know, ostensibly bloodless regime change, meaning
we don't have to send troops there. We just have
to send bits and and teach people how to use
Twitter and Facebook and let the magic of the Internet
do its thing, all all carefully manipulated, of course, with
(40:43):
information manipulated, but that that's that tech was developed for
that purpose and also to counter the Taliban and al Qaida.
And now you know, at the past of among others,
Obama with that Hoover speech where he said that censorship
is necessary to preserved democracy. And what we've seen with USAID,
(41:06):
they have actively deployed this against their own citizens in
the context of COVID, But it turns out they're doing
it for a lot of things. And the COVID logic
was that, well, none of us are safe until everybody's
been vaccinated. The product is safe and effective, and we're
(41:27):
not going to tell you if it isn't because that
would cause vaccine hesitancy. And it was the president by.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And they don't have any liability anyway, right, they're protective.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, Well, we'll see about that. In terms of so
that the government extended indemnification essentially through some kind of
hook and crook strategies in terms of how they contracted
the likes affser But you know, on the table is
a discussion of whether or not these beer crafts that
(42:01):
push this and push the censorship are potentially going to
be able to be held personally liable. So Cybar is
a book that comes out of in many ways, out
of our own experience. It follows on our prior book,
Lies my government told me in the Better Future Coming,
And like with a Lies, we had serialized through substack
(42:24):
a series of essays focusing on fifth generational warfare, psychological warfare,
and what was going on in social media as we
were observing it, and what was going on with corporate
media what my wife likes to call dead media now
and even more dead when you see the numbers coming
out of MSNBC.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
And tell your wife, I'm going to steal that from
her dead media. Yea, yes exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
You can look at her essay today about joy read.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Okay, yes, that's right. More so is the view going
to be Did they finally decide on the view.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
I don't know about the view. I'm all for rearranging
that one too.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, because they got thirty four lawsuits, and the stockholders
you're saying, get it out of here, We're done, we
can't afford it anymore. We'll see.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Well, their viewership numbers are frankly one twentieth of what
I get on a monthly basis from sub stack and
from podcasts like that. Right, So, and I can guarantee
I don't have a ten plus million dollar monthly budget. Yeah,
(43:34):
I get so something's not working there. And if I
was one of the shareholders, I would be jumping up
and down and screaming and tearing out my hair. So yeah,
so you know what the truth of it is that
the whole system has been corrupted soup to nuts in
corporate media. Long ago I talked about the Trusted News Initiative,
(43:57):
and in fact, the website wiki spooks credits me with
the person that kind of smoked that out. Trusted News
Initiative something launched by BBC initially to resist Russian propaganda
and then before strangely before the outbreak in twenty nineteen,
it was rejiggered to also focus on vaccine disinformation and
(44:22):
anti vaxxers and suppressing their voices. So the book kind
of walks you through both historically the history of propaganda,
going back to Edward Brenees the United States government's use
of propaganda and psychological warfare against civilians starting with the
assassination of President John F. Kennedy, and carries forward to
(44:46):
the future and talks about in more advanced topics things
like psychological bioterrorism was just what we saw with COVID
and what is now being deployed with bird flu and
for instance, surveillance capitalism, the business model that drives Silicon
Valley profits that involves, without your permission, scooping up all
(45:08):
data they can about you to build what they call
behavioral futures, which is a computational model of who you are,
what you think, what you believe, what your interests are,
what you're going to buy, and then sells all that.
I assert that functionally, what they're doing, because it's theft,
is they're stealing part of your soul and then reselling it.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Well, and it's almost as bad as you know what's
happening in China. I mean, it's just it's well, they.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
Love the China model. That's where all this is going.
They love the China model. Yes, and so the book
kind of is intended to educate. I think along the thesis,
you could almost say, maybe not the perfect analogy. It's
a vaccine for your mind, Yeah, to help you see
(45:57):
what's being done in this world in which they seek
to control all information. They seek to shape and control
your thoughts, your feelings, your emotions, your desires. That's the
goal here, is completely controlling that. And if you think
it through, but two things come out of that, they're
(46:19):
kind of not so nice. One is because literally the
entire information landscape is being manipular. You can't easily tell
who's real and who's false, who's genuine, who's your friend,
who's your enemy. All of that becomes much more difficult
in fifth generation warner in psychological warfare landscape. And have
(46:40):
no mistake you are, whether or not you consider yourself
a victim, you are a recipient of psychological warfare coming
at you from a variety of sources, not the least
of which is your government. And so you can't really
tell who's friend and foe, what's real and what's false,
And furthermore, can't really be confident the things you are
(47:03):
thinking are your own thoughts or they've been planted in you.
Exactly for the word you have a government that feels
that it's acceptable. Yeah, that's the thing that man really
your mind and try to control your mind. And that
is just completely opposed. It's diametrically opposed. Its anathema. It
(47:26):
is inconsistent with our ability to make reason the choices
about governments. It's inconsistent with the sovereignty and autonomy of
individuals as voters, as citizens.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
And as you say, it's all part of the new
world order. I mean, and we are forewarned. You and
your wife co authored the book. Congratulations. It really is
a gift to America what you've given us in this book.
So I wore The book available at all the usual places, right,
doctor Malone.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Well spoken, and you can also buy it directly from
the publisher, Skyhurst Publisher. And by the way, if you
are an audiobook person, unfortunately you can only get the
audiobook from Amazon or Fortunately, depending on where you are
in the political spectrum about Jeff Bezos. But in any case,
I sat at this very chair for hours and hours
(48:23):
and hours in the middle of the night because my
neighbors make too much noise on the road that goes
down there with their motorbikes, recording that darn thing between
ten pm and four in the morning, so that you
don't have to read the book. If you don't feel
like it. You can get the audio book and listen
to it with your earbuds while you're vacuuming or sitting
(48:45):
in traffic or whatever it is that you do.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
And Doctor Malone's own voice, ladies and gentlemen, just for you.
What a gift, Doctor Malone. Thank you so much. The
substack real quick as we wrap things up. How do
they connect with your substack?
Speaker 3 (48:58):
It's easy to find Malone dot New It used to
be called who is Robert Malone on substack. You can
find it through both of those routes. And thank you
so much for that bill. It's the substack. You don't
make any money on books these days. Sorry to say.
I know I've disillusioned you, but you what pays for
(49:21):
the horse feed on this little farm is substack. In
our small subset of subscribers, we've got something like four
hundred thousand that subscribe to it, but of those only
about thirteen thousand, five hundred pay a monthly fee. But
it's enough.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Well again, our gratitude for coming on. We appreciate the
time Doctor Malone. You take care all right.
Speaker 3 (49:44):
Thanks Bill, Thanks for having me takes care.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Hey our thanks to as I say, doctor Robert Malone.
Gosh a'ta what resource. And the fact that he's on
our side. I like that he's on our side, watching
out for us. And you know, he's been an advocate
of good health. And of course he tells his own
story about how he lost fifty pounds going from being
(50:09):
a vegan and listening to his doctor's advice and you know,
and enjoying, you know, a good stake every once in
a while. There's nothing wrong with that, hey r. Thanks
to you. Thank you so much for being with us
and sharing a part of your day with us. May
God bless you and keep you, May make his face
shine upon you and be gracious unto you, and may
(50:29):
you realize his peace. Ladies and gentlemen, Thank you, God blessed.
Take care,
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