September 8, 2025 • 40 mins
Jonathan Cahn, author of nine New York Times bestsellers, now releases what may be his most explosive book yet! THE AVATAR contains revelations so stunning and so shocking that they cannot even be revealed outside of its pages. Who are the avatars? And what do they have to do with the future of America and the world…and your life? Could they lie behind the outcome of every recent American presidential election and the nation’s future? THE AVATAR will reveal what the media will never tell you.
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Bill Martinez here and yes, Jonathan Gone, the one and Only,
joins us now to talk about his brand new book.
Jonathan as always welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh, great to be with you. Always enjoy Well.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm so excited to talk about this new book, Avatar,
which is going to be released very soon and soon
again right, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Very soon. This is this is the newest book bill
that I've written. It is it is probably the most
explosive book I've ever written. I mean, I've written explosive books,
but this one, the Avatar, is going to really remove
the veil behind what is happening in our world, what's
happening on the political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually,
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what's happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding
right now and really giving exact revelation of where we are,
where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And
you know, I did the Return of the Gods, and
this is going to do another level when we get
into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to
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open it all up, but we don't even know what's
going to happen when this thing comes out, because it
is that explosive.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, and and I'm glad you mentioned the return of
the gods, because that was going to be one of
my questions. Is this the next step, you know, from
the return of the gods?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going
to another level, because the you know, the return of
the gods. For those who don't know the mist the
basically the principle is that that if a nation or
civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism or
these spirits these gods, which the Gospel did in Western civilization,
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it basically cleansed that out. If it should ever turn
away from God, if it ever turned away from the
Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of it
is going to come back into it. The actual ancient
entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.
And that is what we are witnessing in America, what
we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last
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number of decades. But now it's going to another level.
That it's you know, when you have God, when you
have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the in
the pagan world, that is, you have vessels or people
or leaders who are actually used as instruments of these forces.
And that's where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah,
so it's going to another level affecting our government, really
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determining every election in the last few presidential elections as
well well. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And as you say, when the gods come back seven
times worse is what the Bible tells us.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Jonathan, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's
a dangerous thing for any quote Christian or Judeo Christian
based culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look
what happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when
Germany did it, and we're now we've been watching it
happen all around us. So yes, it is exactly that.
It's you know, it's it's worse than a pagan or
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pre Christian civilization, is a post Christian civilization because pre Christian,
you know, you might have a Nero, but post Christian
you have a Hitler.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, exactly, Well let's get into it. Avatar. What is
the avatar going to reveal?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, it's gonna reveal those things. This is gonna this
is going again, it's gonna be, I believe mind blowing
that it's going to be taking away the veil you're
gonna see. I mean behind the people on our national
stage are ancient mysteries play out. I mean, even behind
the assassination attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to
an ancient priesthood. There there's uh, there is so much
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and again it's going to be explosive. Could there actually
right now be on the on the American national stage,
political stage, could there be one who was in effect
an avatar of an ancient god. It's gonna say it
sounds crazy, sounds wild, but it's actually true, well exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, in the Avatar you share something you never before
have written about your encounters with the gods or spirits.
So what happened to you in India when you sounded
the biblical trump at the show Far.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, well, I was in. I was in in front
of like thousands and thousands of people at night, Indian
people and robes, and uh, they'd never heard the gospel,
as most of them, and I I'm going to share
the gospel to them, but I decided to first sound
the show Far the biblical trumpet, and you know, and
there and the thing is, I did, and something came back.
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We couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a
wave came back and I could do you can imagine
being at an exorcism, except multiply it by masses, a
mass exorcism. It was as if spirits were just fleeing.
And the thing is that that I you know, when
I looked later, I'm reading and you're in the Bible
it says when you're say on the show Far, in
the midst of war, the enemy is going to be defeated.
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And it's actually been an ancient tradition that or belief
that when the show far sounded, you know, the enemy
flees or actually they used it in exorcisms. But the
people in India they're not reading the Bible and they're
not reading a jews ensycopedia. So yet it happened, you know,
and after it happened, I was able to give the
Gospel and pray and about seventy thousand people receive the Lord,
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you know, from that happening. So this is the beginning
of what the Bible speaks about, says behind the gods.
You know, Israel is sorry, India is a land of
millions of gods. So you're got the Bible says behind
the gods are spirits entities. So that's really part of
that mystery. These things are real. So what did you think?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I mean, you blowed the chauffear and all of a
sudden you sense this reverse waves so to speak. It
wasn't a the Holy Spirit with with flames of tongue
on people'shead. I mean, you you sense this movement, this
spiritual movement out of where you're at. What what did
what did you think when that happened?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, when that first happened, we couldn't even make sense
of it. It was too like overwhelming. Yeah, I realized it
was like blood curdling screams, like someone people like again
of someone being being exercise of a spirit, but it
was masses of people. I mean, you know, and again
they didn't why did they had no idea about the
so far in the Bible, you know. So these things
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are real. And I saw it in other lands as well,
wherever they were worshiping gods. There are spirits, There are
these things, and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going
to come to America and what we are dealing with
right now. But I saw it all over the world.
I saw it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over
the same phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop
there in Cuba?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro
opened the island for one month for the Gospels me
to come and sound the sho far minister across the island.
And I'm in one city and in the city is
a gigantic a mountain. On top of the mountain is
they're worshiping gods. They have a house of idols and
they have sacrifices, and and they're telling me there's it's
like cursed up there. So I said, okay, I guess
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we're going up there. I go up there with the
so Far and I say, there's a man in front
of the of the pavilion of the House of the Gods,
and he sees me and he starts speaking to me.
And I don't know the guy, but he comes over
to me and he says, I've been waiting for you.
And he says, and he's holding in his hand a
ceramic plate that has a painting of me on it,
blowing the sho far. And the thing is he was
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a Christian. He said, God told him to paint that,
paint that image, put it in the House of the Idols.
And that night something happened that the strap broke apart,
and the plate comes down and strikes the head of
the idol of the Chief God of Cuba with a
goddess named Oshun. And and the next morning the worshipers
open up the pavilion. They their Chief God on the
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floor with the crown removed, and next to it is
this image of this guy, this Jewish guy with a
so far, and this and it's the show far was chipped.
It's struck just where that sound comes out, struck the
head of the island, you know. And the Bible talks
about Dagon and people say, oh, that's just a legend. No,
it's not. God is real. And the thing is that
that the word came down to the city and people
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started going to the churches bringing their idols and saying,
smash our idols. We heard what happened on the mountaintop,
and revival broke out again. The gods, this is a
real thing, and it's interesting again you have the trumpet,
the shofar.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes, right, without a doubt. We got about fifty seconds
in this segment here left. Uh the t R O
TG principle, Well, well that is well, we'll probably just
introduce it and then we'll go to break and then
we'll come back and unwrap it even more.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is gonna be,
is gonna It's gonna have to do with America because
if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are
coming in or the spears are coming in, and that
is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining
what is happening, right, now, what's happened to our culture,
what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open
up a lot of ancient mysteries. That's what I reveal
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in The Avatar. Well, I'll tell you we are standing by.
Let's go to quick break.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
When we come back, we've got more from Jonathan Kahn
after this, stay with us, and we're back with you.
Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Cohn,
and he's done it again with his next book coming
out that we can't wait to get our hands on,
titled The Avatar.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
We were talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know, what's happening, all these things that are affecting America.
You know, you and I've talked before how Israel is
the center and the focus. I've often said that Israel
is the hour hand of God's prophetic clock, and what's
passing our minutes and seconds. But somewhere within the minutes
and seconds in the.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Current calendar is America. Jonathan. Yeah, Actually America was pattern
after ancient Israel. I remember, you know the West, which
America is the inheritor of that. This is Western civilization is
really the only civilization that was actually exercise of the gods,
the Gospel came in and drove out all these things.
But the warning is that if we ever turn away
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from God, they're coming back, and we empty the house.
House isn't staying empty. You know, Look what we did,
you know, we empty the schools. We said we'd take
pair out, take take the Bible out. We empty that out.
Well look at what has come into the schools, you know.
So this is a principle. And the thing is that
you know, when when for instance, remember the Olympics that
just happened, right, and there was this blasphemous thing they
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had this Last Supper and then the Last Supper, what
happened instead of they replaced Jesus with a with an
ancient pagan god exactly what we're talking about. The ancient
god was the god Dionysis, and it's really a symbol
of what's been happening in our culture. So they have
this guy as this god. Well, you know, there was
a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a German philosopher,
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and he actually did the same thing. He drove out God.
He said, we got to get rid of Jesus. In
the nineteenth century, he wrote these he wrote these books
you got to get rid of it. And he actually
lifted up the god Dionysus, same one of the Olympics,
he says we and he actually was almost a worshipper
of this. And at the you know, Dionysus drove his
worshipers insane bad. Well, Nietzsche strangely goes insane, and he
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starts signing his name as Dionysus, as if he was
taken over by the spirit. And the thing is, his
writings went on and you know who picked it up.
Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and so did the Nazis.
He became the philosopher of the Nazi movement. So look
what happens when you take out God, as we were saying,
you take out God and you take out Jesus. Well,
what's gonna come is dangerous and look what and that's
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where we are. So that is a little real symbol
of what we saw with the Olympics. Yeah, vacuum cannot exist.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, you know, if something is gonna something is going
to fill that God's space, right.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And it's gonna be God's It's gonna be it's gonna
be darkness.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right, because the thing is it comes in as a counterfeit.
And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the
illage legitimate.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, it's you know. In Hebrew, the word for God
is elohem, but the eloheim also is used to speak
of the false gods. It also can mean the gods.
So it's either one Alohem or the other. Either God,
you know, God. I don't care. If it's communism, I
don't care. If it's secularism, it doesn't matter. If you
don't have God. The gods are coming in. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
In the book the Avatar, when when is the actual
publishing date of the Avatars?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So we get Levatar is coming out. The actual date
is September second before that. People can you I mean,
you can order it now and you'll probably get it early.
And it looks like this. This is a mock up,
but it looks like this if you can see it,
this is what's going to look like. So if you
go if you go online or you go on Amazon
or anywhere right now, you'll see that and you can
actually pre order it. They do send it early, right, excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, in the Avatar you talk about and we touched
a little bit on it on the ancient template that
reveals what is now happening to America.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is
that when Israel was falling away from God, thek there
were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well, the
amazing thing is that there are American leaders who behind
the actually most of the most of the major American
leaders in the last half last quarter century actually have
prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through it
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because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind virtually
each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And what
happens is it's basically when you read about the House
of Ahab. You know, Ahab was leading the nation away
from God, and it looked that it was going to
be it was going to be sealed away from God
and it was going to go to judgment. But then
God had a surprise, and that is the man named Jehu.
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And Jay who is the mystery or the prototype behind
Donald Trump. Jay who was wild, He was unpredictable, He
was not a politician. He was a fighter. He uh,
he know, it's amazing. He actually, you know, remember when
Trump began his campaign from the very beginning, he's at
Trump Tower, he comes down that staircase, he descends that staircase,
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dramatic launch, which is the largest of the race. Well,
you know what, Jay who began on top of a
staircase and comes down and begins a race to the throne.
And actually Jay who makes an alliance with the religious
conservatives of the land, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to power by coming face to face with the nation's
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former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's amazing everything.
And it's not just the first coming of Trump, but
what's happening right now, this mystery is even more more so.
Right now, it's like Jaehu on steroids. You know, Jay who,
in order think about it, in order to come to power,
he first came against the sitting king, and then he
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came against a woman who had an anti biblical agenda.
So look what happened in twenty sixteen. First he came
against Obama, but then he came against a woman with
an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton. But then in
twenty twenty four, the template of Jay who replays he
first comes against the sitting king Joe Biden lays them
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at that debate, and then he comes against a woman
with an anti biblical agenda, which this case is Kamala Harris.
So that's what so he wins. You know, interesting because
in twenty twenty that wasn't the template. He was in power,
he was the king, so he didn't prevail. But in
twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four, that's why he won.
So even the mystery of our elections is part of
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this biblical paradigm.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And the people may have breaked out when Donald Trump
wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign. He
had a plan, has a plan that is continuing to
be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been
sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an
apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud.
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His administration is pulling back to shroud and all these
hidden secrets.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I mean, we just found a.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Burn bag at the FBI that had information that is
critical that we need to know right now that God says,
you know what, You're ready for the true Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, you know what, you know you know what, Bill,
It's amazing because what did when Jayhu came to power.
You know what he did? He purged the government. Yeah,
it's exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House
of Ahab. He dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump
is dismantling, he's purging. He's and it's not that. Listen,
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we don't know where jay Who was that with God?
We just know he was a vessel of God, you know,
so we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel
he's being used. Yeah, you're absolutely right, and it's all
part of the mystery. You know. You know one thing
the Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You
know what happened on Trump's inauguration. He went is an
anaugural ball. They hand him a gift, They had him
a sword, and he takes it up and starts waving
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it and dancing with it. Who does that? You know?
Jay Who did it? And Trump did it? So we're
actually watching it's amazing, it's unfolding now this mystery more
than ever where we are and where we're going.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using
him and all this symbology.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Jonathan and you had a chance to talk with him
about some of this. It's interesting that you said that
I was led. You know, eight days before the election,
I was called to speak at an event where Trump
was coming, and Trump was there. I mean, Trump was there,
and I spoke the word to like like out to everybody,
but it was to him. It went viral on the web,
and so it gave a little taste of that. But
it's interesting that you say a bill because I actually
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feel that I'm strongly supposed to do exactly what you
just said, because I believe that God's not finished. He
has something even higher with Donald Trump. Pray that God
makes the opening. There are people trying to do it
right exactly, and let me throw something in for you
just quickly, and that is that. You know, here's when
how long has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well,
people would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time
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he was a candidate. People don't know. This first time
he was a candidate for president was actually two thousand.
He ran on the Reform Party, it was called Trump
two thousand. He actually won primaries, He won California and
went Now, the thing is that if you take that
span when will his last full year be the year
twenty eight, twenty twenty eight's and it's twenty eight years
from two thousand. Well, in the Bible it says that
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Jay who was on the national stage four twenty eight years,
I love this. I mean and time and time again.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
This is what you bring, you know, to our audience,
is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness.
And the thing is about God. God tells you in advance.
What other God does that?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Jonathan right? You know, you know, yeah, he knows the
end from the beginning, and he reveals to his people.
You know, when people were asking me before Trump decided
to run again, thinking do you think it's gonna do?
I said, well, the template in the Bible would say yes,
and he did exactly. Well, we're gonna go to quick break.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Stay with us because we've got more from Jonathan con
as we talk about his new book. He is here,
the number one New York Times bestselling author, Jonathan Cohn,
the new book Avatar.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right after this, Stay with us, and we're back with
you America.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Kahn.
We're talking about his brand new book, The Avatar you
talked about presidents uh and the most recent ones. Let's
talk about Joe Biden and his involvement here.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I revealed
this in the Avatar that there's the there's an ancient
king in the Bible part of this template I'm talking about,
and that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Johoram was weak.
Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them,
voted Biden. Jahoram's at the beginning of his reign suffers
a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his whole reign.
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So did Biden. It was it was it was Afghanistan
that has changed everything during Listen to this. During Jehoram's reign,
there's there are border incursions. Foreign people are coming in
crossing the borders, well, Joe Biden. Also, during the reign
of Jehoram, the land of Israel is attacked, invaded by
Arabians and Philistines. Well, the Arabians the world. That's another
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word of saying Arab and Philistine. Today the people call
the Palestinians. What that name means literally means Philistine. The
Arabic word for Palastinian is Philistini. So there's an invasion.
So with Biden, the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in.
And the ancient invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip,
and they came into Israel and they took hostages back
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to Gaza. That happened in the reign of the one
who's the prototype of Biden. Also, towards the end of
his reign, the Jehoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and
so did Biden. He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And
the thing is that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry,
Jehoram had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah.
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At the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left.
His name was Hunter. Now both of them didn't serve
the lord. But a Haziah. Listen to This comes from
a root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means
to seize. Well, in Old German, the word to seize
is henton, which which is connected to the name unturned.
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So I mean, you can't make this up. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wow, that that is amazing. So what did we already
talked about Jehu. But but Alato, let's go ahead and
talk about the avatar opening the mystery of the god kings.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's called the obnover reason. You see, wherever
you have when you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures,
in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief
that the gods can appear as people, or they can
you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And
usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look
at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be
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living gods, you know, and so in the kings of Babylon,
kings of Asia, it's all over and these see in
the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can rule
over the king, they can rule the nation. And so
America is at the point where we've we've let these
things in now to the point where these spirits or
these entities or gods, they're not content being whole existing.
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They want dominion. And so if they can get the
government or get a leader, you've got the nation. So
could there actually be an avatar in America? Now? Listen here,
they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know,
the the remnant of what was pagan would we called
pagan religion, and you have millions of gods. But they
believe that the house of Brahmen, this this Brahman house
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of people, that that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well,
there was someone born of the House of Brahmen whose
name was Kamala Harris. Born of them. She was given
the name Kamala Kamala. She was named after a goddess.
It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name
is deb Debi, what does it mean the goddess. So
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her name means Kamala the goddess. And actually Hindu writings
they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but not
only that Bill, but her whole life is going to
play out according to the mystery of this goddess, the goddess.
According to the mathagy Kamala, she begins by her rise,
born and and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris
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was born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco,
that's in the ocean. By the ocean. Well, also the
god is it becomes the number two ruler in the
cosmos of the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god
because she's married to the king god, which is Vishnu.
And actually and so so you have Kamala Harris as
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the number two to the president of the land, and
the president was called Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe. Vishnu is
called the sleeping God. Okay literally, and no that you
know how it's kind of a strange. Listen, it's not
about Kamala Harris. We've got to pray for everybody. They
don't know what they're doing. But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know.
The strange thing is that she was always laughing, they said,
laughing Kamala at the wrong times. Yes, well, well, in
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Hinduism there is the there is the belief there is
the laughing goddess called called the Debi, which is Kamala's
middle name, so literally, and that god us would laugh
while she brought destruction or she'd wore she'd be destruction.
So you have the laughing goddess. But now let me
there's so much, but let me even take it even deeper.
There's a day on the Hindu calendar where it's it's
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all in honor of Kamala of the goddess. Okay, it's
called it's called Shahrad Pernuma Ornima, and so the thing
is Kamala. Harris was born in nineteen sixty four. He
was born on October twentieth. She was born on Sharad Pernima,
the day of the Goddess Kamala. So literally she's born
on that day. Not only that bill, but she but
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at night. There's a night that is called that is
called uh Koja. You don't have to remember this, but
Kojagara Puja, which is called the night they believe that
the goddess Kamala enters the world under the moonlight the
full moon, and they open their houses to receive her. Well,
Kamala Harris was born at night on that night Kojagara Puja,
under the moon, under the full moon. She was born
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on the she entered the world on the night that
the goddess is said to enter the world. And let
me give you one more thing, the Goddess Kamala that
there's one day where they celebrated as the birthday of
the Goddess Kamala, and they tell the story of how
she was born by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris. The
woman Kamala was born on the birth the day of
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the birth of the goddess Kamala, and so on. As
she's born, all around the world, they're chanting the name
of Kamala the goddess all over the world. As Kamala
comes into the world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Johnathan, here we were before this, we were concerned about
the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton. Now we
have the rise of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't
know what we'll have time for. But that's even linked
to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked
to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had
a daughter, people don't realize this, whose name was Atalia.
And I in the Avatari opened this up. But this
is also what happens to. Atalia is also the flesh
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and blood prototype of Kamala Harras. And I mean it's amazing.
I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even the way she
was defeated is all part of the template of Atalia.
It's all there. But all these people are linked to
the gods, you know, And so Kamala Harris. And here's
another thing built that. You know, in ancient times they
would make pictures images of the kings and queens, merging
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them to the gods they represented. So in Egypt, hieroglyphics
and all that. Well. An image appears on the Internet
about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to the
White House's vice president. It's put up by her own
family and it merges her with a with a with
a goddess. I mean, it makes her as a Hindu goddess.
I mean crazy, but you know, and you want to
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put this kind of bring it home. There's so much
to it, but to bring it home as this America
was founded to be one nation under God, under the
rule of God. If she had won, literally we would
be under the rule of one called the Goddess, whose
name means the goddess, which is a sign of a
nation that was is you put away God, this is
what you get. It would have sealed our future. But
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God had the surprise and he gave us grace and
gave us the last chance.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, that's just going to ask, you know, why did
God save us? Because I believe because of the prayers
of his people. I believe because the remnants as if
my people and you know prayed. I was gathering Bill.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You know, in Washington there were you know, tens of
thousands of believers and we were praying and praying and
praying thirty days before the election, and others were praying.
Everybody was, you know, we were praying. God heard our prayers,
and He's merciful. He's given us a chance. This is
a window. But this even links up to there. There's
even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We may be able to get it at the end,
which is part of where we are right now, right exactly.
I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you,
in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that
is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, it's not even coming. It's here, right, It is here,
and we are in it. It is real. I listen.
One of the things I want to show in the
Avatar and in the books is that this is real.
This is not this is not feeling. This is real.
You can see the exact dates. You can see that
this is real, real people, real thing, real future. We
are in a war and we have been given a
chance and this is the moment he told me about
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what where's this going? Where? Where was the headache? And
what do we need to know? What does God want
you know? It says in the Bible the sons of
Isiguard knew the times and what is Reel should do?
Where to be like the children of Isiguard. We are
to know the times? And then what do we need
to do because this is a momentous time, and this
is a critical time can go either way, and we
need to rise to it well. Bible says Jesus wept.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He wept over Jerusalem because they missed their appointed time right.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And we cannot miss our appointed time. We've got to
go to break.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We've got more from the one and only Jonathan Kahn
stay with his slaves and gentlemen, and we're back with you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Glad you could join us and stay with us. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as
he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I
tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know,
you just give me goosebumps and hold the other end
for the longest time.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
He didn't quite. He just kind of laughed and went
along with me because well, you know, crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Mexican's coming up with something. I don't know where it is,
but you know, I'll just play with him.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And it wasn't. I was probably about five six years later.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You know, because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything,
and and I go, you know, like chicken skin.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, but you know here he's done it to all
of us, right, we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken
chicken skin, the whole bunch of us. And we're talking
about his new book, The Avatar, from the number one
New York Times best selling author Jonathan Kahn, an explosive
new book that's going to change the way you see
the world. Jonathan. Uh, let's let's talk about Donald Trump. Okay, yeah,
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let's take it to another level. I mean, there's an
even deeper mystery.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know. When when Jayho began his rise to the throne,
they sounded they proclaimed him king, and they sounded trumpets.
So here trumpets were linked to Jah. So you got
a guy. You have a man named trump, which in
English means trumpet. And the thing is that what's a trumpet?
You know, a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's
a vessel in the Bible. It's the vessel I member.
We started speaking about the trumpet in the Nations. The
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trumpet sounded, you know, to get your attention right. You
got to get your attention right, Yes, exactly, and Trump
gets your attention. And a Trump trumpet is jarring. It
interrupts everything, and so is Trump. But it's in the Bible.
It was a vessel of the power of God and
an amazing thing. You know. We spoke about how the
mystery of Kamala Harris He's born. She was born on
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a pagan holy day holiday when all these people are
worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump was born on a Friday,
which is the Sabbath, which is a biblical holiday holy day,
and all of the world people are worshiping God. And
the thing is on the Sabbath, there is always an
appointed scripture, a word from the Word of God that
is appointed for that particular day, and that was ushered
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in by Donald Trump. So when he was born, what
was the scripture? The scripture is God telling Israel to
bring forth a vessel. It's about bringing a vessel into
the world, an instrument into the world. What instrument the trumpet.
Literally he's born. Trump is born, he Trump comes into
the world, while God, the scripture is bringing the trump
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into the world. Okay, and so Trump's life is all
about that. And so think about this bill. In that election,
you have on one hand a guy whose name is
Trump or Trumpet, and you have a woman's whose name
is DeBie or Kamala Debbi, which means goddess. And I
told you in the beginning, you know, when the trumpet sounds,
the tradition is the spirits or the gods have to flee.
So you got this election, you want to you want
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to pull away the val and see really what we
were dealing with spiritually a trumpet and in both our vessels,
a trumpet's a vessel and also an avatar is a vessel.
So you got the two there. And so when the
trumpet sounds, the goddess or the avatar is is blown away.
And that's exactly what happened. And this is linked to
where we are right now. And in fact, you know,
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in fact, you know what I said, like what I
said when I sounded the trumpet in India, that we
have this like a mass exorcism. In Cuba, it was
the image of a trumpet that took away the crown
of the god is so we see this again. Well,
the thing is not only that there's a mystery behind
we all. We all remember when Trump was almost assassinated.
You talk about spiritual warfare. I mean, there was warfare
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over this. You know, he was almost killed twice. I mean,
and and this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but
the thing is that that that I want to bring
it to where we are and what this is all about.
Trump was, you know, or let me say, Jay whu
Jah was the only king of the Northern Kingdom who
the Bible records, was actually anointed. He was anointed with
oil by a prophet. Well, the first anointing in the
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biggest annointing in the Bible, is the anointing of the priests.
And they had a big ceremony and they were anointed
to be able to serve God as there his ministers.
And in order to be anointed, it wasn't just oil,
it was they had to be touched with blood. And
so the blood had to touch the ear of the priest.
The one big annoyan the blood touched the touch. The
blood had to touch the right ear. It touched the
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right ear of Trump. It had to touch the tip
of the touches the tip of the right ear. And
then the blood is to touch the hand. First thing
that Donald Trump does is he reaches his hand, touches
the blood. That the blood had to touch the right hand,
it's his right hand. It had to touch the thumb.
The first thing that comes up is his right thumb.
And now the blood was to touch the feet. Now
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we can't say because the cameras didn't catch it, but
in order for the blood to touch the feet, his
shoes had to be removed. What happens is Donald Trump's
shoes are removed, They push him down where the blood went,
and he literally is there without shoes. He calls for
his shoes. The priest in the anointing had to have
his shoes removed and minister without his shoes. But not
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only that, Bill, Notice when this happened. Notice what happened
in the anointing of the priest. You have a man
who is a candidate for the office of the priesthood.
So here we have the candidate for the office of
the presidency. And the thing is, it was a seventh
day ceremony on the seventh day, it is sealed. The
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priest is annoying. Okay. Now, now, Bill, if you count
on the Hebrew reckoning of time, every day ends and
begins at sunset. So you have the day that it
all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood touches him, then
comes that's the first day. Then comes sundown, the sundown,
second day. Keep counting, and you when is the seventh day.
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The seventh day was Thursday night, and that night is
the night that Donald Trump received the nomination to become president.
So the anointing was complete on the seventh day. I mean,
so what it's saying is there is actually a purpose.
And did you notice Bill that after that event, Trump
kept talking about God, saying, there's a reason I'm actually
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there's a calling. I'm actually called to do God's will.
Well there is the priest is actually supposed to bring
the nation to God. Well we've got to pray that
so that that's going to go into a mystery. Call
that where we are now called the Black Obelisk. If
you want, I can just do yes, We've got five
and a half minutes. You got it, You got it.
There's no object on planet earth that has an image
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of somebody from the Bible that was actually made when
they were alive, except one, the black obelist and the
black novelist has an image of somebody from the Bible
when that person was love you know what? You know
who was day who? And the image is a jay
who bowing down on his knees. And that image never
matched something until when Donald Trump was pushed down on
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that stage. He was pushed down and they took a picture.
He's on his knees, and that matches the ancient image
of Jayhu from two and a half thousand years ago.
And so here is a message to America. The only
way that America is going to be great again is
if America comes to its knees, including Donald Trump, including
all of us. You see, the only thing that can
save America is revival. You know, you know, if we
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change the government but we don't change the people, the
unchanged people are going to change the government back, and
those gods are going to return. You we've been watching
a massive rolling out back of the gods. Actually that's
the agenda that Donald Trump is rolling back. But we
need to reach placed that with the presence of God.
We have a window that God has given us, and
the window is for revival. If we don't see revival,
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we're gone. The only thing you can said. But if
we see revival, God can do something beyond what anything
we imagine. That's the point of Jehu Jayhu was the
last chance given before. It's either judgment or revival, and
we have to go full blast as never before. This
is what the Avatar why I believe the Lord wrote
me lev me to write the Avatar not only to
reveal these mysteries and we just touched on them. There's
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so much more. But the ultimate point is that we
are in a window of time. It's crucial. We got
to pray as never before for revival. We got to
actually not just pray, We got to live in revival.
Who's revival? Work for revival as never before, because that's
the only thing that can save America. We were born
for such a time as this, This is the moment. Well, Jonathan,
we have to embrace the pain.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And you know, if we embrace the pain and really
realize how bad it is and how worse it could
have been, then you're drawn to God. The spirit will
bring you to God. So then you see the legitimate
versus the illegitimate, and that will cause repentance. Like everything
you read in the Old Testament, it starts with repentance.
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And yes, you get to revival, but you can't get
to revival until you realize how how we failed God.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin.
If my people will turn from variable ways, not just
the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes,
you know, that's when blessing comes. You know. So this
this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay
Who's about, This is what the Trumpet's all about. This
is what the moment's all about. And we are this
is critical, this is major, This is momentous, This is biblical.
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But we got a rise to it and be back people.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and
people need to hear this. My people, Okay, there are
sanctified designated people that God has set aside.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
You know, we talked a little bit earlier about the remnant,
and so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
The repentance begins with us, it says in why People.
Then you know it's going to begin with us, you know,
So instead of we Yes, we got to pray for
America as never before. But we have to realize that
we're part of it too. If we don't, we are
to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's
choose revival to walk and what do we need to do?
Let's do it. Let's not say tomorrow we're going to
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get it together. Let's say today and God will begin.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, there has to be this sense of immediacy because
time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has
blessed us, he has blessed us with this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
You and I talked about this the last time.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Is that God is in a sense kind of set
time out on the insanity and the chaos, lest we
we would go nuts and our heads would explode. Johnson,
we got about a minute and a half left. I'm
going to let you summarize and then tell people how
they can get their hands and order your book.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Now. Yeah, well this is it, guys. You know there
are a lot of you who prayed for I wish I
could live in biblic times. Congratulations, you're in biblicult times.
Now this is only biblical and we got a job
to do, you know, so, let's rise to it and
with our in our own lives, we can do it.
God's gonna bless you if you say yes, whatever you
gotta does, anything in your life that shouldn't be there,
get it out, anything that's not in your life that
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should be you know it, don't say tomorrow. Lord, I'm
gonna start rising today. And then let's pray as and
let's join me. Let's join me and Bill together in
all of us to pray as never before for revival
for America. God have his way with Trump, have his
way with America and the world, and God will answer
our prayers as for that. With the Avatar, we just
touched on some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it,
it is the most explosive I've ever written. And we
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don't even know what's gonna happen when it comes out.
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There's a lot of fate Jonathing on YouTube side. Yeah, right,
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can get it right now.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, and the thing is is we touched on earlier, Jonathan.
The break news is the legitimate always pushes out the illegitimate.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Right. I'm holding to that, Bill, Thank you for amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
God bless you, Jonathan Cohn, Thank you so much. Congratulations
on the book. We can't wait to get our hands
on it. You always are a blessing. Take care of
my friend.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
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Bill Martinez here and yes, Jonathan Gone, the one and Only,
joins us now to talk about his brand new book.
Jonathan as always welcome, Michelle. Good to have you with us.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh, great to be with you. Always enjoy Well.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I'm so excited to talk about this new book, Avatar,
which is going to be released very soon and soon
again right, yes.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Very soon. This is this is the newest book bill
that I've written. It is it is probably the most
explosive book I've ever written. I mean, I've written explosive books,
but this one, the Avatar, is going to really remove
the veil behind what is happening in our world, what's
happening on the political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually,
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what's happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding
right now and really giving exact revelation of where we are,
where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And
you know, I did the Return of the Gods, and
this is going to do another level when we get
into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to
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open it all up, but we don't even know what's
going to happen when this thing comes out, because it
is that explosive.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, and and I'm glad you mentioned the return of
the gods, because that was going to be one of
my questions. Is this the next step, you know, from
the return of the gods?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going
to another level, because the you know, the return of
the gods. For those who don't know the mist the
basically the principle is that that if a nation or
civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism or
these spirits these gods, which the Gospel did in Western civilization,
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it basically cleansed that out. If it should ever turn
away from God, if it ever turned away from the
Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of it
is going to come back into it. The actual ancient
entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.
And that is what we are witnessing in America, what
we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last
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number of decades. But now it's going to another level.
That it's you know, when you have God, when you
have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the in
the pagan world, that is, you have vessels or people
or leaders who are actually used as instruments of these forces.
And that's where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah,
so it's going to another level affecting our government, really
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determining every election in the last few presidential elections as
well well. Exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And as you say, when the gods come back seven
times worse is what the Bible tells us.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Jonathan, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's
a dangerous thing for any quote Christian or Judeo Christian
based culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look
what happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when
Germany did it, and we're now we've been watching it
happen all around us. So yes, it is exactly that.
It's you know, it's it's worse than a pagan or
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pre Christian civilization, is a post Christian civilization because pre Christian,
you know, you might have a Nero, but post Christian
you have a Hitler.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, exactly, Well let's get into it. Avatar. What is
the avatar going to reveal?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, it's gonna reveal those things. This is gonna this
is going again, it's gonna be, I believe mind blowing
that it's going to be taking away the veil you're
gonna see. I mean behind the people on our national
stage are ancient mysteries play out. I mean, even behind
the assassination attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to
an ancient priesthood. There there's uh, there is so much
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and again it's going to be explosive. Could there actually
right now be on the on the American national stage,
political stage, could there be one who was in effect
an avatar of an ancient god. It's gonna say it
sounds crazy, sounds wild, but it's actually true, well exactly.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Well, in the Avatar you share something you never before
have written about your encounters with the gods or spirits.
So what happened to you in India when you sounded
the biblical trump at the show Far.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, well, I was in. I was in in front
of like thousands and thousands of people at night, Indian
people and robes, and uh, they'd never heard the gospel,
as most of them, and I I'm going to share
the gospel to them, but I decided to first sound
the show Far the biblical trumpet, and you know, and
there and the thing is, I did, and something came back.
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We couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a
wave came back and I could do you can imagine
being at an exorcism, except multiply it by masses, a
mass exorcism. It was as if spirits were just fleeing.
And the thing is that that I you know, when
I looked later, I'm reading and you're in the Bible
it says when you're say on the show Far, in
the midst of war, the enemy is going to be defeated.
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And it's actually been an ancient tradition that or belief
that when the show far sounded, you know, the enemy
flees or actually they used it in exorcisms. But the
people in India they're not reading the Bible and they're
not reading a jews ensycopedia. So yet it happened, you know,
and after it happened, I was able to give the
Gospel and pray and about seventy thousand people receive the Lord,
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you know, from that happening. So this is the beginning
of what the Bible speaks about, says behind the gods.
You know, Israel is sorry, India is a land of
millions of gods. So you're got the Bible says behind
the gods are spirits entities. So that's really part of
that mystery. These things are real. So what did you think?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I mean, you blowed the chauffear and all of a
sudden you sense this reverse waves so to speak. It
wasn't a the Holy Spirit with with flames of tongue
on people'shead. I mean, you you sense this movement, this
spiritual movement out of where you're at. What what did
what did you think when that happened?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Well, when that first happened, we couldn't even make sense
of it. It was too like overwhelming. Yeah, I realized it
was like blood curdling screams, like someone people like again
of someone being being exercise of a spirit, but it
was masses of people. I mean, you know, and again
they didn't why did they had no idea about the
so far in the Bible, you know. So these things
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are real. And I saw it in other lands as well,
wherever they were worshiping gods. There are spirits, There are
these things, and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going
to come to America and what we are dealing with
right now. But I saw it all over the world.
I saw it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over
the same phenomenon.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop
there in Cuba?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro
opened the island for one month for the Gospels me
to come and sound the sho far minister across the island.
And I'm in one city and in the city is
a gigantic a mountain. On top of the mountain is
they're worshiping gods. They have a house of idols and
they have sacrifices, and and they're telling me there's it's
like cursed up there. So I said, okay, I guess
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we're going up there. I go up there with the
so Far and I say, there's a man in front
of the of the pavilion of the House of the Gods,
and he sees me and he starts speaking to me.
And I don't know the guy, but he comes over
to me and he says, I've been waiting for you.
And he says, and he's holding in his hand a
ceramic plate that has a painting of me on it,
blowing the sho far. And the thing is he was
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a Christian. He said, God told him to paint that,
paint that image, put it in the House of the Idols.
And that night something happened that the strap broke apart,
and the plate comes down and strikes the head of
the idol of the Chief God of Cuba with a
goddess named Oshun. And and the next morning the worshipers
open up the pavilion. They their Chief God on the
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floor with the crown removed, and next to it is
this image of this guy, this Jewish guy with a
so far, and this and it's the show far was chipped.
It's struck just where that sound comes out, struck the
head of the island, you know. And the Bible talks
about Dagon and people say, oh, that's just a legend. No,
it's not. God is real. And the thing is that
that the word came down to the city and people
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started going to the churches bringing their idols and saying,
smash our idols. We heard what happened on the mountaintop,
and revival broke out again. The gods, this is a
real thing, and it's interesting again you have the trumpet,
the shofar.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yes, right, without a doubt. We got about fifty seconds
in this segment here left. Uh the t R O
TG principle, Well, well that is well, we'll probably just
introduce it and then we'll go to break and then
we'll come back and unwrap it even more.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is gonna be,
is gonna It's gonna have to do with America because
if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are
coming in or the spears are coming in, and that
is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining
what is happening, right, now, what's happened to our culture,
what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open
up a lot of ancient mysteries. That's what I reveal
(09:08):
in The Avatar. Well, I'll tell you we are standing by.
Let's go to quick break.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
When we come back, we've got more from Jonathan Kahn
after this, stay with us, and we're back with you.
Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Cohn,
and he's done it again with his next book coming
out that we can't wait to get our hands on,
titled The Avatar.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
We were talking about.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
You know, what's happening, all these things that are affecting America.
You know, you and I've talked before how Israel is
the center and the focus. I've often said that Israel
is the hour hand of God's prophetic clock, and what's
passing our minutes and seconds. But somewhere within the minutes
and seconds in the.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Current calendar is America. Jonathan. Yeah, Actually America was pattern
after ancient Israel. I remember, you know the West, which
America is the inheritor of that. This is Western civilization is
really the only civilization that was actually exercise of the gods,
the Gospel came in and drove out all these things.
But the warning is that if we ever turn away
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from God, they're coming back, and we empty the house.
House isn't staying empty. You know, Look what we did,
you know, we empty the schools. We said we'd take
pair out, take take the Bible out. We empty that out.
Well look at what has come into the schools, you know.
So this is a principle. And the thing is that
you know, when when for instance, remember the Olympics that
just happened, right, and there was this blasphemous thing they
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had this Last Supper and then the Last Supper, what
happened instead of they replaced Jesus with a with an
ancient pagan god exactly what we're talking about. The ancient
god was the god Dionysis, and it's really a symbol
of what's been happening in our culture. So they have
this guy as this god. Well, you know, there was
a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a German philosopher,
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and he actually did the same thing. He drove out God.
He said, we got to get rid of Jesus. In
the nineteenth century, he wrote these he wrote these books
you got to get rid of it. And he actually
lifted up the god Dionysus, same one of the Olympics,
he says we and he actually was almost a worshipper
of this. And at the you know, Dionysus drove his
worshipers insane bad. Well, Nietzsche strangely goes insane, and he
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starts signing his name as Dionysus, as if he was
taken over by the spirit. And the thing is, his
writings went on and you know who picked it up.
Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and so did the Nazis.
He became the philosopher of the Nazi movement. So look
what happens when you take out God, as we were saying,
you take out God and you take out Jesus. Well,
what's gonna come is dangerous and look what and that's
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where we are. So that is a little real symbol
of what we saw with the Olympics. Yeah, vacuum cannot exist.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes, you know, if something is gonna something is going
to fill that God's space, right.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And it's gonna be God's It's gonna be it's gonna
be darkness.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Right, because the thing is it comes in as a counterfeit.
And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the
illage legitimate.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Yeah, it's you know. In Hebrew, the word for God
is elohem, but the eloheim also is used to speak
of the false gods. It also can mean the gods.
So it's either one Alohem or the other. Either God,
you know, God. I don't care. If it's communism, I
don't care. If it's secularism, it doesn't matter. If you
don't have God. The gods are coming in. Well.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
In the book the Avatar, when when is the actual
publishing date of the Avatars?
Speaker 3 (12:24):
So we get Levatar is coming out. The actual date
is September second before that. People can you I mean,
you can order it now and you'll probably get it early.
And it looks like this. This is a mock up,
but it looks like this if you can see it,
this is what's going to look like. So if you
go if you go online or you go on Amazon
or anywhere right now, you'll see that and you can
actually pre order it. They do send it early, right, excellent.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, in the Avatar you talk about and we touched
a little bit on it on the ancient template that
reveals what is now happening to America.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is
that when Israel was falling away from God, thek there
were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well, the
amazing thing is that there are American leaders who behind
the actually most of the most of the major American
leaders in the last half last quarter century actually have
prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through it
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because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind virtually
each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And what
happens is it's basically when you read about the House
of Ahab. You know, Ahab was leading the nation away
from God, and it looked that it was going to
be it was going to be sealed away from God
and it was going to go to judgment. But then
God had a surprise, and that is the man named Jehu.
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And Jay who is the mystery or the prototype behind
Donald Trump. Jay who was wild, He was unpredictable, He
was not a politician. He was a fighter. He uh,
he know, it's amazing. He actually, you know, remember when
Trump began his campaign from the very beginning, he's at
Trump Tower, he comes down that staircase, he descends that staircase,
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dramatic launch, which is the largest of the race. Well,
you know what, Jay who began on top of a
staircase and comes down and begins a race to the throne.
And actually Jay who makes an alliance with the religious
conservatives of the land, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to power by coming face to face with the nation's
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former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's amazing everything.
And it's not just the first coming of Trump, but
what's happening right now, this mystery is even more more so.
Right now, it's like Jaehu on steroids. You know, Jay who,
in order think about it, in order to come to power,
he first came against the sitting king, and then he
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came against a woman who had an anti biblical agenda.
So look what happened in twenty sixteen. First he came
against Obama, but then he came against a woman with
an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton. But then in
twenty twenty four, the template of Jay who replays he
first comes against the sitting king Joe Biden lays them
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at that debate, and then he comes against a woman
with an anti biblical agenda, which this case is Kamala Harris.
So that's what so he wins. You know, interesting because
in twenty twenty that wasn't the template. He was in power,
he was the king, so he didn't prevail. But in
twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four, that's why he won.
So even the mystery of our elections is part of
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this biblical paradigm.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
And the people may have breaked out when Donald Trump
wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign. He
had a plan, has a plan that is continuing to
be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been
sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an
apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud.
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His administration is pulling back to shroud and all these
hidden secrets.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I mean, we just found a.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Burn bag at the FBI that had information that is
critical that we need to know right now that God says,
you know what, You're ready for the true Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, you know what, you know you know what, Bill,
It's amazing because what did when Jayhu came to power.
You know what he did? He purged the government. Yeah,
it's exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House
of Ahab. He dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump
is dismantling, he's purging. He's and it's not that. Listen,
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we don't know where jay Who was that with God?
We just know he was a vessel of God, you know,
so we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel
he's being used. Yeah, you're absolutely right, and it's all
part of the mystery. You know. You know one thing
the Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You
know what happened on Trump's inauguration. He went is an
anaugural ball. They hand him a gift, They had him
a sword, and he takes it up and starts waving
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it and dancing with it. Who does that? You know?
Jay Who did it? And Trump did it? So we're
actually watching it's amazing, it's unfolding now this mystery more
than ever where we are and where we're going.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using
him and all this symbology.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Jonathan and you had a chance to talk with him
about some of this. It's interesting that you said that
I was led. You know, eight days before the election,
I was called to speak at an event where Trump
was coming, and Trump was there. I mean, Trump was there,
and I spoke the word to like like out to everybody,
but it was to him. It went viral on the web,
and so it gave a little taste of that. But
it's interesting that you say a bill because I actually
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feel that I'm strongly supposed to do exactly what you
just said, because I believe that God's not finished. He
has something even higher with Donald Trump. Pray that God
makes the opening. There are people trying to do it
right exactly, and let me throw something in for you
just quickly, and that is that. You know, here's when
how long has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well,
people would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time
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he was a candidate. People don't know. This first time
he was a candidate for president was actually two thousand.
He ran on the Reform Party, it was called Trump
two thousand. He actually won primaries, He won California and
went Now, the thing is that if you take that
span when will his last full year be the year
twenty eight, twenty twenty eight's and it's twenty eight years
from two thousand. Well, in the Bible it says that
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Jay who was on the national stage four twenty eight years,
I love this. I mean and time and time again.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
This is what you bring, you know, to our audience,
is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness.
And the thing is about God. God tells you in advance.
What other God does that?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Jonathan right? You know, you know, yeah, he knows the
end from the beginning, and he reveals to his people.
You know, when people were asking me before Trump decided
to run again, thinking do you think it's gonna do?
I said, well, the template in the Bible would say yes,
and he did exactly. Well, we're gonna go to quick break.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Stay with us because we've got more from Jonathan con
as we talk about his new book. He is here,
the number one New York Times bestselling author, Jonathan Cohn,
the new book Avatar.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right after this, Stay with us, and we're back with
you America.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Bill Martinez here along with the best selling author Jonathan Kahn.
We're talking about his brand new book, The Avatar you
talked about presidents uh and the most recent ones. Let's
talk about Joe Biden and his involvement here.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I revealed
this in the Avatar that there's the there's an ancient
king in the Bible part of this template I'm talking about,
and that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Johoram was weak.
Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them,
voted Biden. Jahoram's at the beginning of his reign suffers
a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his whole reign.
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So did Biden. It was it was it was Afghanistan
that has changed everything during Listen to this. During Jehoram's reign,
there's there are border incursions. Foreign people are coming in
crossing the borders, well, Joe Biden. Also, during the reign
of Jehoram, the land of Israel is attacked, invaded by
Arabians and Philistines. Well, the Arabians the world. That's another
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word of saying Arab and Philistine. Today the people call
the Palestinians. What that name means literally means Philistine. The
Arabic word for Palastinian is Philistini. So there's an invasion.
So with Biden, the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in.
And the ancient invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip,
and they came into Israel and they took hostages back
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to Gaza. That happened in the reign of the one
who's the prototype of Biden. Also, towards the end of
his reign, the Jehoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and
so did Biden. He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And
the thing is that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry,
Jehoram had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah.
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At the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left.
His name was Hunter. Now both of them didn't serve
the lord. But a Haziah. Listen to This comes from
a root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means
to seize. Well, in Old German, the word to seize
is henton, which which is connected to the name unturned.
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So I mean, you can't make this up. It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wow, that that is amazing. So what did we already
talked about Jehu. But but Alato, let's go ahead and
talk about the avatar opening the mystery of the god kings.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's called the obnover reason. You see, wherever
you have when you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures,
in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief
that the gods can appear as people, or they can
you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And
usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look
at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be
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living gods, you know, and so in the kings of Babylon,
kings of Asia, it's all over and these see in
the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can rule
over the king, they can rule the nation. And so
America is at the point where we've we've let these
things in now to the point where these spirits or
these entities or gods, they're not content being whole existing.
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They want dominion. And so if they can get the
government or get a leader, you've got the nation. So
could there actually be an avatar in America? Now? Listen here,
they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know,
the the remnant of what was pagan would we called
pagan religion, and you have millions of gods. But they
believe that the house of Brahmen, this this Brahman house
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of people, that that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well,
there was someone born of the House of Brahmen whose
name was Kamala Harris. Born of them. She was given
the name Kamala Kamala. She was named after a goddess.
It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name
is deb Debi, what does it mean the goddess. So
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her name means Kamala the goddess. And actually Hindu writings
they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but not
only that Bill, but her whole life is going to
play out according to the mystery of this goddess, the goddess.
According to the mathagy Kamala, she begins by her rise,
born and and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris
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was born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco,
that's in the ocean. By the ocean. Well, also the
god is it becomes the number two ruler in the
cosmos of the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god
because she's married to the king god, which is Vishnu.
And actually and so so you have Kamala Harris as
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the number two to the president of the land, and
the president was called Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe. Vishnu is
called the sleeping God. Okay literally, and no that you
know how it's kind of a strange. Listen, it's not
about Kamala Harris. We've got to pray for everybody. They
don't know what they're doing. But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know.
The strange thing is that she was always laughing, they said,
laughing Kamala at the wrong times. Yes, well, well, in
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Hinduism there is the there is the belief there is
the laughing goddess called called the Debi, which is Kamala's
middle name, so literally, and that god us would laugh
while she brought destruction or she'd wore she'd be destruction.
So you have the laughing goddess. But now let me
there's so much, but let me even take it even deeper.
There's a day on the Hindu calendar where it's it's
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all in honor of Kamala of the goddess. Okay, it's
called it's called Shahrad Pernuma Ornima, and so the thing
is Kamala. Harris was born in nineteen sixty four. He
was born on October twentieth. She was born on Sharad Pernima,
the day of the Goddess Kamala. So literally she's born
on that day. Not only that bill, but she but
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at night. There's a night that is called that is
called uh Koja. You don't have to remember this, but
Kojagara Puja, which is called the night they believe that
the goddess Kamala enters the world under the moonlight the
full moon, and they open their houses to receive her. Well,
Kamala Harris was born at night on that night Kojagara Puja,
under the moon, under the full moon. She was born
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on the she entered the world on the night that
the goddess is said to enter the world. And let
me give you one more thing, the Goddess Kamala that
there's one day where they celebrated as the birthday of
the Goddess Kamala, and they tell the story of how
she was born by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris. The
woman Kamala was born on the birth the day of
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the birth of the goddess Kamala, and so on. As
she's born, all around the world, they're chanting the name
of Kamala the goddess all over the world. As Kamala
comes into the world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Johnathan, here we were before this, we were concerned about
the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton. Now we
have the rise of Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't
know what we'll have time for. But that's even linked
to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked
to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had
a daughter, people don't realize this, whose name was Atalia.
And I in the Avatari opened this up. But this
is also what happens to. Atalia is also the flesh
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and blood prototype of Kamala Harras. And I mean it's amazing.
I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even the way she
was defeated is all part of the template of Atalia.
It's all there. But all these people are linked to
the gods, you know, And so Kamala Harris. And here's
another thing built that. You know, in ancient times they
would make pictures images of the kings and queens, merging
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them to the gods they represented. So in Egypt, hieroglyphics
and all that. Well. An image appears on the Internet
about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to the
White House's vice president. It's put up by her own
family and it merges her with a with a with
a goddess. I mean, it makes her as a Hindu goddess.
I mean crazy, but you know, and you want to
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put this kind of bring it home. There's so much
to it, but to bring it home as this America
was founded to be one nation under God, under the
rule of God. If she had won, literally we would
be under the rule of one called the Goddess, whose
name means the goddess, which is a sign of a
nation that was is you put away God, this is
what you get. It would have sealed our future. But
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God had the surprise and he gave us grace and
gave us the last chance.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, that's just going to ask, you know, why did
God save us? Because I believe because of the prayers
of his people. I believe because the remnants as if
my people and you know prayed. I was gathering Bill.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
You know, in Washington there were you know, tens of
thousands of believers and we were praying and praying and
praying thirty days before the election, and others were praying.
Everybody was, you know, we were praying. God heard our prayers,
and He's merciful. He's given us a chance. This is
a window. But this even links up to there. There's
even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
We may be able to get it at the end,
which is part of where we are right now, right exactly.
I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you,
in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that
is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, it's not even coming. It's here, right, It is here,
and we are in it. It is real. I listen.
One of the things I want to show in the
Avatar and in the books is that this is real.
This is not this is not feeling. This is real.
You can see the exact dates. You can see that
this is real, real people, real thing, real future. We
are in a war and we have been given a
chance and this is the moment he told me about
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what where's this going? Where? Where was the headache? And
what do we need to know? What does God want
you know? It says in the Bible the sons of
Isiguard knew the times and what is Reel should do?
Where to be like the children of Isiguard. We are
to know the times? And then what do we need
to do because this is a momentous time, and this
is a critical time can go either way, and we
need to rise to it well. Bible says Jesus wept.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
He wept over Jerusalem because they missed their appointed time right.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
And we cannot miss our appointed time. We've got to
go to break.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
We've got more from the one and only Jonathan Kahn
stay with his slaves and gentlemen, and we're back with you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Glad you could join us and stay with us. You know.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as
he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I
tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know,
you just give me goosebumps and hold the other end
for the longest time.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
He didn't quite. He just kind of laughed and went
along with me because well, you know, crazy.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Mexican's coming up with something. I don't know where it is,
but you know, I'll just play with him.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
And it wasn't. I was probably about five six years later.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
You know, because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything,
and and I go, you know, like chicken skin.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Okay, but you know here he's done it to all
of us, right, we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken
chicken skin, the whole bunch of us. And we're talking
about his new book, The Avatar, from the number one
New York Times best selling author Jonathan Kahn, an explosive
new book that's going to change the way you see
the world. Jonathan. Uh, let's let's talk about Donald Trump. Okay, yeah,
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let's take it to another level. I mean, there's an
even deeper mystery.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
You know. When when Jayho began his rise to the throne,
they sounded they proclaimed him king, and they sounded trumpets.
So here trumpets were linked to Jah. So you got
a guy. You have a man named trump, which in
English means trumpet. And the thing is that what's a trumpet?
You know, a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's
a vessel in the Bible. It's the vessel I member.
We started speaking about the trumpet in the Nations. The
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trumpet sounded, you know, to get your attention right. You
got to get your attention right, Yes, exactly, and Trump
gets your attention. And a Trump trumpet is jarring. It
interrupts everything, and so is Trump. But it's in the Bible.
It was a vessel of the power of God and
an amazing thing. You know. We spoke about how the
mystery of Kamala Harris He's born. She was born on
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a pagan holy day holiday when all these people are
worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump was born on a Friday,
which is the Sabbath, which is a biblical holiday holy day,
and all of the world people are worshiping God. And
the thing is on the Sabbath, there is always an
appointed scripture, a word from the Word of God that
is appointed for that particular day, and that was ushered
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in by Donald Trump. So when he was born, what
was the scripture? The scripture is God telling Israel to
bring forth a vessel. It's about bringing a vessel into
the world, an instrument into the world. What instrument the trumpet.
Literally he's born. Trump is born, he Trump comes into
the world, while God, the scripture is bringing the trump
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into the world. Okay, and so Trump's life is all
about that. And so think about this bill. In that election,
you have on one hand a guy whose name is
Trump or Trumpet, and you have a woman's whose name
is DeBie or Kamala Debbi, which means goddess. And I
told you in the beginning, you know, when the trumpet sounds,
the tradition is the spirits or the gods have to flee.
So you got this election, you want to you want
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to pull away the val and see really what we
were dealing with spiritually a trumpet and in both our vessels,
a trumpet's a vessel and also an avatar is a vessel.
So you got the two there. And so when the
trumpet sounds, the goddess or the avatar is is blown away.
And that's exactly what happened. And this is linked to
where we are right now. And in fact, you know,
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in fact, you know what I said, like what I
said when I sounded the trumpet in India, that we
have this like a mass exorcism. In Cuba, it was
the image of a trumpet that took away the crown
of the god is so we see this again. Well,
the thing is not only that there's a mystery behind
we all. We all remember when Trump was almost assassinated.
You talk about spiritual warfare. I mean, there was warfare
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over this. You know, he was almost killed twice. I mean,
and and this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but
the thing is that that that I want to bring
it to where we are and what this is all about.
Trump was, you know, or let me say, Jay whu
Jah was the only king of the Northern Kingdom who
the Bible records, was actually anointed. He was anointed with
oil by a prophet. Well, the first anointing in the
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biggest annointing in the Bible, is the anointing of the priests.
And they had a big ceremony and they were anointed
to be able to serve God as there his ministers.
And in order to be anointed, it wasn't just oil,
it was they had to be touched with blood. And
so the blood had to touch the ear of the priest.
The one big annoyan the blood touched the touch. The
blood had to touch the right ear. It touched the
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right ear of Trump. It had to touch the tip
of the touches the tip of the right ear. And
then the blood is to touch the hand. First thing
that Donald Trump does is he reaches his hand, touches
the blood. That the blood had to touch the right hand,
it's his right hand. It had to touch the thumb.
The first thing that comes up is his right thumb.
And now the blood was to touch the feet. Now
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we can't say because the cameras didn't catch it, but
in order for the blood to touch the feet, his
shoes had to be removed. What happens is Donald Trump's
shoes are removed, They push him down where the blood went,
and he literally is there without shoes. He calls for
his shoes. The priest in the anointing had to have
his shoes removed and minister without his shoes. But not
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only that, Bill, Notice when this happened. Notice what happened
in the anointing of the priest. You have a man
who is a candidate for the office of the priesthood.
So here we have the candidate for the office of
the presidency. And the thing is, it was a seventh
day ceremony on the seventh day, it is sealed. The
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priest is annoying. Okay. Now, now, Bill, if you count
on the Hebrew reckoning of time, every day ends and
begins at sunset. So you have the day that it
all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood touches him, then
comes that's the first day. Then comes sundown, the sundown,
second day. Keep counting, and you when is the seventh day.
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The seventh day was Thursday night, and that night is
the night that Donald Trump received the nomination to become president.
So the anointing was complete on the seventh day. I mean,
so what it's saying is there is actually a purpose.
And did you notice Bill that after that event, Trump
kept talking about God, saying, there's a reason I'm actually
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there's a calling. I'm actually called to do God's will.
Well there is the priest is actually supposed to bring
the nation to God. Well we've got to pray that
so that that's going to go into a mystery. Call
that where we are now called the Black Obelisk. If
you want, I can just do yes, We've got five
and a half minutes. You got it, You got it.
There's no object on planet earth that has an image
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of somebody from the Bible that was actually made when
they were alive, except one, the black obelist and the
black novelist has an image of somebody from the Bible
when that person was love you know what? You know
who was day who? And the image is a jay
who bowing down on his knees. And that image never
matched something until when Donald Trump was pushed down on
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that stage. He was pushed down and they took a picture.
He's on his knees, and that matches the ancient image
of Jayhu from two and a half thousand years ago.
And so here is a message to America. The only
way that America is going to be great again is
if America comes to its knees, including Donald Trump, including
all of us. You see, the only thing that can
save America is revival. You know, you know, if we
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change the government but we don't change the people, the
unchanged people are going to change the government back, and
those gods are going to return. You we've been watching
a massive rolling out back of the gods. Actually that's
the agenda that Donald Trump is rolling back. But we
need to reach placed that with the presence of God.
We have a window that God has given us, and
the window is for revival. If we don't see revival,
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we're gone. The only thing you can said. But if
we see revival, God can do something beyond what anything
we imagine. That's the point of Jehu Jayhu was the
last chance given before. It's either judgment or revival, and
we have to go full blast as never before. This
is what the Avatar why I believe the Lord wrote
me lev me to write the Avatar not only to
reveal these mysteries and we just touched on them. There's
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so much more. But the ultimate point is that we
are in a window of time. It's crucial. We got
to pray as never before for revival. We got to
actually not just pray, We got to live in revival.
Who's revival? Work for revival as never before, because that's
the only thing that can save America. We were born
for such a time as this, This is the moment. Well, Jonathan,
we have to embrace the pain.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
And you know, if we embrace the pain and really
realize how bad it is and how worse it could
have been, then you're drawn to God. The spirit will
bring you to God. So then you see the legitimate
versus the illegitimate, and that will cause repentance. Like everything
you read in the Old Testament, it starts with repentance.
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And yes, you get to revival, but you can't get
to revival until you realize how how we failed God.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin.
If my people will turn from variable ways, not just
the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes,
you know, that's when blessing comes. You know. So this
this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay
Who's about, This is what the Trumpet's all about. This
is what the moment's all about. And we are this
is critical, this is major, This is momentous, This is biblical.
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But we got a rise to it and be back people.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and
people need to hear this. My people, Okay, there are
sanctified designated people that God has set aside.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
You know, we talked a little bit earlier about the remnant,
and so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
The repentance begins with us, it says in why People.
Then you know it's going to begin with us, you know,
So instead of we Yes, we got to pray for
America as never before. But we have to realize that
we're part of it too. If we don't, we are
to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's
choose revival to walk and what do we need to do?
Let's do it. Let's not say tomorrow we're going to
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get it together. Let's say today and God will begin.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, there has to be this sense of immediacy because
time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has
blessed us, he has blessed us with this opportunity.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
You and I talked about this the last time.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Is that God is in a sense kind of set
time out on the insanity and the chaos, lest we
we would go nuts and our heads would explode. Johnson,
we got about a minute and a half left. I'm
going to let you summarize and then tell people how
they can get their hands and order your book.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Now. Yeah, well this is it, guys. You know there
are a lot of you who prayed for I wish I
could live in biblic times. Congratulations, you're in biblicult times.
Now this is only biblical and we got a job
to do, you know, so, let's rise to it and
with our in our own lives, we can do it.
God's gonna bless you if you say yes, whatever you
gotta does, anything in your life that shouldn't be there,
get it out, anything that's not in your life that
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should be you know it, don't say tomorrow. Lord, I'm
gonna start rising today. And then let's pray as and
let's join me. Let's join me and Bill together in
all of us to pray as never before for revival
for America. God have his way with Trump, have his
way with America and the world, and God will answer
our prayers as for that. With the Avatar, we just
touched on some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it,
it is the most explosive I've ever written. And we
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don't even know what's gonna happen when it comes out.
This is what it looks like. This is a mark
Up company. If you go online right now, you're gonna
see it and you can get it. You can pre
order it. And if you have people in your life
who need to be touched or need to know or
wake up, get it for them. Okay, but it's the
avatar it's the it says the return of the Agents
the future of America Jonathan Cotton. Now, the other thing
is you want to get in touch with the ministry
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of the ministry have least cold hope of the world.
If you've got a hope of the hope of the
world dot org. It's getting the gospel around the world.
You'll get a lot of free gifts and phetic updates.
And I'm everywhere. I'm on YouTube and all that stuff.
There's a lot of fate Jonathing on YouTube side. Yeah, right,
it's gonna say. But if it says Johnathan connofficial, you
know so, yeah so. And my books are everywhere, but
you go anywhere. Once it's out, it's everywhere. But you
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can get it right now.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, and the thing is is we touched on earlier, Jonathan.
The break news is the legitimate always pushes out the illegitimate.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Right. I'm holding to that, Bill, Thank you for amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
God bless you, Jonathan Cohn, Thank you so much. Congratulations
on the book. We can't wait to get our hands
on it. You always are a blessing. Take care of
my friend.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
Thank you, Bill. YouTube
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