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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here.
Great to have you with us. Also, we've got Michael
pack And, the director and producer of the Last six
hundred Meters joining us. He's the president of Manifold Productions
and Palladium Pitchers. Michael, welcome the show. Good to have
you with us.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Thank you. Good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well, I want to talk about something you recently addressed,
and that is the Department of Defense sending out a
warning to Senator Mark Kelly said he could be recalled
to face navy charges. What say you, Well, first of all.
Speaker 7 (00:49):
I want to remind your viewers and listeners that they
can still get the last six hundred meters on animal.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm glad you brought that up because I was going
to ask you about that, but I want to get it.
Let's go ahead and talk about that because some people
have asked, because of course it was featured. There was
a big part of Veteran's Day and the whole holiday, so.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Absolutely so it's still available on Amazon and will be
for the foreseeable future. Well, look, I'm really concerned about
that ad there, rat. I mean, I think it was horrible.
I mean it's one of those things. I mean, technically,
of course, in the military they don't have to obey
illegal orders, but I think there's some standard. It has
to be sort of obviously illegal. I mean, it's meant
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to if you're like a sergeant and your lieutenant tells
you to shoot a prisoner, you're supposed to decline. But
you're not supposed to decide the constitutionality of questions like
bombing boats in Venezuela or anything like that. I mean,
how can you? And that's sort of the implication bill.
It reminds me a little bit like in my neighborhood
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here in Chevy Chase, a very little neighborhood. Those signs
were so popular during the pandemic. You know, I trust Science,
Love Love, and those are all tautologies. And this is
a tautology too. Obviously soldiers don'tenough to obey illegal orders.
But those tautologies implied something else. When they said science
is science, they meant that that whatever doctor Factie said,
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they would do right and When these people say don't
obey illegal orders, they mean question the orders that Donald
Trump says and make up your own mind whether you
want to follow them. That's sort of the hidden subtext.
And I think that's what angers Donald Trump and Pete
Hegsaff and right, Lisa, and I.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Think it angers most Americans that voted for Donald Trump
because they've been trying to recap him since day one.
I mean, this has been going on for years, and
we're kind of fed up with this. I mean, we've
got a country to save here, get back on track,
and all they can do is, you know, put a
stick in his spoke, so to speak, and trip him
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up here and of course right now, I mean if
that wasn't bad enough, here we're talking a present event
who already had an attempted assassination on him. The rhetoric
that they have been dishing out that he's a fascist,
he's Hitler, and this, I mean, this is very dangerous.
And so this is another one of those arrows in
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the quiver that are targeted for Donald Trump. And I
don't even think that for a moment that they're considering
what this would do to our country. I mean, here
we are month of November. We remember sixty two years
ago with the assassination of JFK and what it did
to this country. Could you imagine an assassination of Donald
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Trump right now? What this would do to America?
Speaker 7 (03:40):
I cannot imagine, or if the two earlier assassination attempts
had been successful. Yes, I mean no, it is very horrible.
I agree, it's very destabilizing. In my film The Last
six hundred Meters, lots of these marines got orders they
didn't like and they thought were wrong. But you could
see it in the film as they expressed their anger
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at being told, in particular not to finish the fight
in nu Joff and Fallujah, but they did what they
were told. I mean, that idea where they can start
questioning these things is really it's it's dangerous at a
very deep level, and it's a it's a it's disconcerting
to the you know, it puts these servicemen in a terrible, terrible.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Position exactly, you know, and watching that in the movie
The Last six hundred Meters, it was reminiscent of Vietnam.
I'm a Vietnam era vet. I wasn't in country. I
was in public relations stationed at Camp Pendleton, California. So
a lot of information went through and it was very frustrating,
especially in interviewing the Marines when they came back, you know,
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from being in country, because there was a lot of
civilian involvement and and it was that same type of
conflict because what they would do, Michael, they would they
would go and they would conquer a hill and then
they would recede, and then the next day the commander
would tell him, you know, officials would tell him. The
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brass would say, Hey, we got to go conquer that
hill again. Oh wait a minute, we just lost a
half a dozen of our buddies who are dead in
body bags because we just didn't. Now we've got to
go back and do it again. And this was a
cyclic type of thing that happened in Vietnam. And that's
a whole nother argument altogether with civilians being involved here.
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So you can't blame the military for having that content,
not that you are for having that kind of consciousness,
because you go to war to win, you don't go
to play paddy cake.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Absolutely, it was really frustrating for all the Marines in
my film in the very, very similar way. But they
didn't ever decide that they couldn't that they would just
not obey orders. I mean, that's look, we have a
civilian control of the military, and civilians have been screwing
up the military. Your military has been given a good
advice and the civilia has been ignoring it for hundreds
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of years. They'll keep doing that again. The only solution
to that problem would be a military junto where the
military takes over the government and it's run by the military,
And that's the solution in many Latin American countries, and
it doesn't work out so well. We believe in civilian
control of the military. It would be nice if they
did it, if they were at least, you know, if
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they did it in a way that would win wars.
But in the meantime, it's not up to the military
to decide individuals on the front lines, and it puts
them in a worse position. I mean, if where they're
actually asked to make those kinds of decisions on whether
things are right or wrong, or constitutional or ethical.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, you can't think when you're on the battlefield.
It's life or death, and everything is measured in seconds. Michael, indeed,
and so for these you know, these are elected officials,
and Mark Kelly especially, you know, Homer military himself, he
should know better. Shame on him for doing this. I am,
you know, as a as a marine myself. I'm I'm
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just grievely disgusted with him, and I believe that every
one of them at least should be censured. I know
that Trump was very emotive about it and uh and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Called it out for what it is. It is seditious.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Uh. And and to put that in the minds that question,
and to do it in such a nebulous way. They
didn't come in and say, hey, President Trump ordered this,
we deem this to be an unlawful order. No, they
just send it out there, you know, kind of as
a just as a you know, a bomb to be
detonated in the minds of these young soldiers.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And they were unable to name any illegal order that
Donald Trump is given right, I mean, it's not these
illegal order things tend to be at a lower level.
If the president does something illegal, the ways to challenge
it are very clear. You know, you can, you could,
you know, the Congress can challenge it. The Supreme the
law courts can challenge it if it's unconstitutional and those
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and his actions, you know, are being challenged and we'll
see what the Supreme Court says. So the implication is
really not to want to go through the normal challenge
to question a presidential order. I mean, you know, in practice,
I mean, people have things like the Lieutenant Cally example,
talking about Vietnam and mind although he had no order,
(08:27):
apparently he did it on his own. But yeah, if
you're going to murder civilians and you're told by your captain,
that's one thing. Presidential decisions that are matters of national policy.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
You know.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
The next level down are the generals, and they have
many ways to challenge it and question it. I mean,
for example, they can announce publicly and then resign their
commissions in protest. I mean, they have lots of ways.
So it really confuses and conflates lots of things there.
And I think you're right, it's hard to know what
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the intention was. But and I am also very disappointed
in Mark Kelly. I mean, you would think that such
a decorated marine veteran would not be Hey, Navy, Navy.
It was shocking. It's shocking.
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You gotta go to quick break.
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We've got more from Michael Pack after they stay with us.
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Speaker 4 (14:26):
Hey, we're back with your nineteen minutes chapter The top
of the outright Down. Michael Pack the director and producer
of the Last six hundred Meters. The documentary available on Amazon,
and it continues to be so unless we tell you different.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Right, Let's we tell it different. And our other we've
done fifteen films. They're all available on our one of
our two websites, Manifold Productions dot com or plagin Pictures
dot com. And we have one other one on military themes.
We did a biography of Admiral Ricover, who's a very
different kind of hero, a Navy hero and an engineer
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hero rather than a combat veteran hero. But important if
you want to do something like win the Cold War.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, without a doubt, six hundred meters won the highest
honors at the GI Film Festival in DC and the
Hudson Institute Film Festival in New York City. As a
quick summary, Michael, I want to give you a little
bit more time for people that have heard about six
hundred meters but not really sure what it's all about.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Well, the last six hundred meters, the battles of n
Jaffan Fallujah. Attempt to tell the stories of those two battles,
which were the biggest battles in America has fought since Vietnam,
and we want to tell it from the point of
view of the people who fought there, sort of ground truth.
It's called the last six hundred meters because the Special
Forces sniper says, I don't make foreign policy. I delivered
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the last six hundred meters of it, meaning what he
could see through his sniperscope. And that's what we did.
We didn't go into the question of should we have
been interact whether weapons of mass destruction or any of
those questions. We looked at it from the point of
view of the peaceeople on the ground, from corporals and
sergeants up to sort of one star generals who are
in the field. And I think it's important to understand
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what those those veterans went through, just like the veterans
of the Vietnam War were I think ignored and even
mistreated for many years. People are clouded, and you know,
they're mixed feelings or negative feelings about the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan. I think have detracted from appreciation of
the heroism and valor of the young men and women
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who fought there.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, that followed orders, you know, and many in Vietnam
were there because of the draft. They didn't want to
be there, and and of course the way it was
reported on you know, back home, the mainstream media, how
they all contributed to this thing. I mean, it really is.
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You know sometimes you know, the idea of freedom of
the press. I get this, our constitution, I love it.
I you know, I went into the military to defend
the constitution and our right for freedom of the press
and free speech. But you know, there it doesn't go
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without responsibility. And I think that they contributed to some
of the damage in why many Vietnam vets came back
to the country with their heads hanging low.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
That is very true. The media and the elites, American elites,
you know, really mischaracterized the war and mischaracterized what the
American servicemen and women were doing over there. Absolutely, and
it's the same in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean they're
not they don't get there's only a focus on things
like Abu Grab and Haditha and PTSD and but these
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people were there representing America and doing what we told
them to do and putting their lives on the line,
and some of them, you know, giving the ultimate sacrifice
and many many more wounded, and you can see it
in our film. And we need to understand and appreciate
their service.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's not a.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Matter of whether you think presidents were right or wrong
and sending them over there and directing them. It's a
matter of what they did on the ground.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Well, I believe that what our leaders did can be
adjudicated in a different documentary indeed, right, But this is
what makes the last six hundred meters so special because
it's from the ground floor level. It's from the soldier's
perspective and their point of view. And when you consider
Michael that probably I think it's about one percent. Some
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have said less than one percent of citizens in America,
you know, enter the military much less than a fraction
of them are actually in a combat zone. Indeed, you know,
so it's very very unique.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Go ahead, it's right.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
We need to appreciate them, those that are in the
combat zone. And my family is one of the ones
that didn't have a traditional military service. So it was
eye opening for me to meet talk and understand these people,
and I let them tell their story. They look right
at the camera, they talk in the first person of
what they did. We show the footage of those same
people in combat doing the things they're talking about on camera,
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and I think these are I mean, on top of
everything else, these are powerful, exciting, compelling stories. You know,
people have been fascinated by war stories from the Iliad
to Shakespeare to today, and I think they're I mean,
it's not like it's I feel it's an exciting film
in addition to telling an important story.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, the other thing that comes out in this as well, Michael,
is that these young men and women who enter the military,
they're not a bunch of bozos. I mean, they're well trained.
I mean, they are so singularly focused. This is why
our military has to be treated with.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Such a high level of respect.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's something like especially Mark Kelly, and people in elected
office should be should have a more heightened awareness. It's
one thing to come from you know, some casual citizen
that doesn't really understand, but when you are an elected official,
and especially like I said with Senator Kelly, who raised
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his hand took the oath of office that he lives
under to this day. Because anybody that takes the oath
of office in the military, it's till the day you die,
that oath is in force to protect and defend our
constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And now what
they've done is these you know, some.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Have referred to them as the Seditious Six.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
They have become enemies of our own country. They are
domestic enemies by virtue of being irresponsible with their right
of free speech.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
It's very shocking. I mean it used to be said,
and I think it's still true that you know this
is even now. A historically small percentage of the people
in the Senate in Congress have served in the military.
I mean during the period where there was a draft,
it was much higher in a lot of World War
Two veterans. So you'd think that these veterans, these six
people who are veterans. They would provide the other view.
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So it's pretty shocking that they come out this way,
and it seems pretty nakedly political because.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They have nothing. Oh you back it up.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
They have no they.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Can't cite any illegal orders from Donald Trump. You know,
they can't really specify what they want from what they've done.
I mean, it was a very On the other hand,
as a filmmaker, I do think it was a pretty
well made, powerful, little you know, ad spot. You know,
it was very strong, it was very compelling. It just
was wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yes, yeah, production values, good message, wrong, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know. It kind of reminded me a little bit
of the impeachment of Donald Trump with Lieutenant Colonel Vindaman
if you're him, and to me it was I said
all along when I heard him speak, I go, this
is a human resource issue. You know, this is something
that you know you don't agree with your boss. You
go to HR and you say, hey, I got a problem.
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I don't agree with the boss. Now it's one thing,
you know your boss at a local level. It's another
thing if you don't agree with the President of the
United States, who is the commander in chief. He is
your really big, boss, So you better have your ducts
in a row.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And he sounded to me at the end of the day,
just so petty and irrational.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But that's the nature, unfortunately of a political bias and
animus that that has become so often integrated and accepted
in our culture, and particularly at this level.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
So I mean, there should.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Be a higher level, a level of ethics and behavior.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think you're right, And I think that kind of
thing does underpin Donald Trump's attitude towards it. I mean,
I too was shocked by that by all those people
testifying against the president. I mean, you expect loyalty from
the people that work for you, you know, they should,
you know. You know, there was a big tradition of
the people who work for the president, you know, taking
their complaints and not talking about them, at least not
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for a while. It was pretty shocking. All these people
were ready to trash the a sitting president, you know.
And I think that sense from Donald Trump betrayal that
he had that he felt. I mean, I was in
the first Trump administration, so I remember this rather well. Yeah,
that sense of betrayal. Now he feels it again. I
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think it fuels his anger the betrayals, the attacks on him,
the assassination attempts, but also the personal betrayal by people
who were, in this case supposed to be defending the military.
People were supposed to be defending the constitution. People he
doesn't expect turning on him makes, you know, fuels his anger.
You know, he's had whatever it is, ten years. That
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that's sort of a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And then on top of that, Michael, you got what
over ninety percent of that which is reported on him
in the mainstream media is purposely negative ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
It's really huge. I mean, it's really incredible. I do
a lot of things on public television. I listen to
a lot of public radio. You know, it's only one side.
It's been a year since they really go out of
their way to interview people that may support or like
President Trump. The most you get is a sort of
Republican with you know, Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, they don't. You know, there are conservatives.
They know how to present themselves in such a way
that they're not so enamored about Donald Trump. I mean,
they look at it objectively, and it's refreshing to hear them,
but unfortunately their voices are limited, but they're important to
hear because we need to have that objectivity. We need
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to have that kind of input into the discourse.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Don't we.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Absolutely. I think that this dominance of the left and
so much of the media has been a problem. It
would be it's dominance from any one side is a
problem anyway. I see this in the documentary film business.
There's a huge number of documentaries as an explosion of
documentaries in the last ten years. Netflix, Amazon, Hulu. They
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say that like thirty percent of their product is nonfiction. Nonfiction.
You know, documentary is a miniseries and it's all from
one point of view. It's all from the left. I
think a lot of it is well made, a lot
of them are made by friends of ours on the left,
but the country is not well served hearing one side
of the story. And it's true across genres in the media,
(25:49):
you know, in the news, in print, everywhere.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yeah, it's just where we are at this point in time. Unfortunately.
But you know, as they say, this too shall pass,
and I can't waited. Michael Packed, their director and producer
of the Last six hundred Meters, the documentary is still
available at Amazon check it out. He is the president
of Manifold Productions and Palladium Pitchers. Michael, thank you so
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much for being with us.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
Take care pleasure to be with you.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
Thank you.
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Hey good Morning. AND erica i good to have you
With Us bill martin, this year and my Good Friend
carl gallips is, with us Pastor Of Hickory Hammick baptist Church, In,
Milton florida amazon top sixty best selling author and conservative talk.
RADIO hosts i think you're still, doing that. AREN'T you,
i mean, if not you're doing it here with. Me anyway, oh, yeah,
NO former i.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Don't have my. SHOW anymore i had it for twenty
two years that went all over the world and. Very
POPULAR but i travel so much NOW and i do
a lot of, book WRITING and i do, ghost writing
and a pastor, a CHURCH and i. Do media, right
now we're doing it in my. Home OFFICE but I
mean i. Travel too, SO no i don't. Have THAT
but i do have. A show IT'S Called A relevant
(30:34):
Word With Pastor, carl galsaid airs live on four radio
stations On The, gulf coast and It's on iTunes and
iHeartRadio and all over my. YouTube channel, So yeah i'm still.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Doing, radio well of course, he is and also a
former decorated law. Enforcement, officer hey real quick on, THAT
end i wanted to get your read on that silly
statement from that congressman in that Hearing with chris, he
know and talking about an unfortunate incident that occurred To
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the national guardsmen that were shot in.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The, head, yeah well from a law, enforcement standpoint it's
way deeper than an. Unfortunate incident what in its? Purest
form was it? An, incident yes but. Much deeper was
it unfortunate that people broke the law in attacking the? Federal? Officers,
(31:28):
yes so but it's. A crime it's just, a crime
and especially for elected officials to be involved. IN it
i don't know how they're going to deal, with this but,
you know they've got to set a precedent here otherwise
these leftist loons are just going to destroy, this country
which is what they're trying.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
To, do well, of course, of course and they've already
confused almost half the country as. IT is, i mean
the thing that's so rich, About this carl is think who.
Said this this is the same guy that Led The january,
committee hearing right and all the hyperbole and everything that.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Went on there was.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No gun the only people that got murdered were the
people that. Were there, you know people that should have
gone to jail did not go, to jail including. That
officer as, you know firing around in a. CROWDED group,
i mean that is not a. GOOD shoot i don't
care what, anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Says, no, no. NO listen i can remember years ago
when all of this wokeness started, was BEGINNING and i
don't know how many. Years ago that, was, ten eleven twelve. Years, ago,
well listen it's been starting. For decades but as far as,
JUST really, I mean i Think the obama administration really
put it. On steroids Then the biden administration put it over.
(32:43):
The top so in somewhere in, THAT area i was
doing a live international television show live and the host
was complaining, or bemoaning like YOU and i are right
now about the direction, the left the wide left is
taking and they and he turned to me and, He,
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said carl what's happening to? OUR country i. Don't understand
why do these people say? These things why do they do?
These things and the immediate ANSWER that i Think the lord,
gave me and it has since proven to be. Very
true Is That listen, Number one we are Living in
satan's world right now Until the lord returns and sets up.
His kingdom according To the Word, of god everything else
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prophesied In the bible about the Coming, Of, christ golgotha,
the resurrection the changing of, the world the pouring out
of demonic mindsets and depravity, of mind all of that
has already come to pass right before. Our eyes the Return, Of,
Israel persia Iran. Attacking israel all of that's In the Word. Of,
god well the, other Thing the Word of god says
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in the, last days people are going to lose, their
minds doctrines, of demons and a lot of times we
think of doctrines as just religious teaching in. The, church no,
a doctrine military, has doctrine doctors, have doctrines businesses have doctrines.
In protocol so what's that saying is everything that is that,
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is biblical everything that, is sane sanity will be attacked
at the. Demonic level we don't know what a marriage,
is anymore YOU and, I Do but i'm Talking about
We've Got supreme court JUSTICES saying i don't Know if i'm.
A woman i don't know if what a. Woman is
HOW do i? Know that we don't know what a.
Gender is we don't know what a little boy or
a little. Girl is so you've been looking in the
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news lately at all of, these teachers men and women
that are going to prison for grooming children and then
having sex. With them you've been reading. About it it's in.
THE news a, woman teacher, Men Teacher and i'm screaming at.
THESE articles i wish somebody could hear me and thank
you for giving me a. Platform today. I'm screaming wait.
(34:50):
A minute so you are outraged that these men and
women school teachers are grooming sex objects out of their
kids and then having sex. With them yet those same
teachers could take little children, and, say now don't tell
you mommy, and daddy But, little johnny you could Be
little mary if you, want TO and i can tell,
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you HOW and i can, help you and we'll give you,
a name a different name. At school. That's GROOMING when
i was, a top we put people in prison. For
that but see these, same teachers if they do that
with this, gender thing they're hailed. As heroes, but yet,
of course if they wind up having sex with somebody.
(35:33):
Later on now go. To prison. That's terrible. That's terrible i'm,
telling you the world's going out of. His MIND so
i told. THIS host i didn't tell him. All that
I'M sorry i had pummeled you. With IT but i told.
THE host, i said first, of all you got to
understand This is. Satan's WORLD and i was just now
giving some examples. Of that how we know. That's TRUE and,
i said but the second, thing is and this goes,
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more politically, humanly speaking, nationally speaking but it's. Biblical too
when you look at these people and, you say what are,
they thinking what are? They saying they're destroying. The, COUNTRY
listen i, TOLD him, i said a lot of these
people they are not, For us they are not. With
us some of them aren't even. Of us some of
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them are have come into the, country illegal many of them,
even legally but they passed the initial test to get,
in legally but they've been brainwashed somewhere along. The line
some have, even born been born in this country From.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Where yeah but look at where they're. Coming from and
we're talking about the PEOPLE outside, i know in. The
country that's. Another deal in terms of how they've been
propagandized and they've been groomed.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
AND conditioned i get.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That, part yeah by a woke culture IS what i
was trying. To, say, so yeah you're.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Exactly right. I'M sorry I just i didn't mean to cut,
you OFF but i meant to cut.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You off? Is, that yeah it's, your?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Show brother is that here's. Your world i'm just living.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
In it, Probably no god, bless you and you're. Welcome
Here and, i'm sorry but it's just.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
You go, you know you got me.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Going now and the deal is is that look at
look at what Happened. With somalia what's going On? In
minnesota what did you think you were going? To get
you go to a third. World country, there's lawless they
they they have generations of lawlessness going on and all
kinds of misbehavior and stuff that you know that we
would consider as being just abnormal. And obtuse and then
(37:25):
you bring them here to. The country what did you
think they were going?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
To, do No that somalia is not even a third.
WORLD country i mean they're they're like. Fourth world they
don't even have a really a standing military with protocol
and doctrine And doctor they've got roving groups and gangs
of terrorists is what. They are and that's and and
and it's just be killed or. Be killed it's like
(37:47):
The wild west without deputy sheriffs. Or rangers it's just.
It's crazy and and that's where these people. Came from.
Watch this supposedly to escape the horrors, of that they
move Right into american cities and Turn the american cities
try To. Into, SOMALIA yeah i mean it's. It's berserk
(38:10):
but a lot of this is planned brother by old
global elitists That. Hate, america well and as, you say
This is.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Satan's realm and the THING that i find quite, Interesting.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Here carl is where we.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Are today it, SEEMS that, i Mean obviously god is
up to something pretty dramatic because you have the Intensity
of satanic behavior and demonstration.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Really.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
STEPPING up, i mean you talk about being. ON steroids
i mean, the expression the kind of stuff that every
day people are. Buying into, oh yeah, you know you're
really not. A girl it's what, sex was what gender
was assigned. At birth now it's. Birth assignment. You know
it's unbelievable the kind of conversation and, the language how it's.
(38:59):
Been twisted but. No surprise isaiah said this, would, happen right, He,
said hey there's going to be that time when evil
will be, called good good will be. Called evil and
right now it's, so pronounced but it appears to be
intensifying at the same time that you have people Coming
to god in an intense sort of way.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
As, well, right, Yes yes i'm going to pour out
my spirit in the. Last days people will have eyes
to see and ears. To, hear now the vast, majority
won't And the bible's pretty clear about telling US that
I mean Old And. New testament but there are still
those that need to come into the Family of god
Through the Heart, of God Through, jesus Christ and, God
(39:39):
says i'm going to give people a chance so that
when they stand before me on the day, of judgment
no one will have. Any excuse so so the bottom,
LINE is i got to put this plug for what you.
Just said For the.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'll show what before you. Do that let's go.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
To break i'll give you plenty of time on the.
Other side stay. With us we get More From carl gallops.
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Fourteen minutes before the top of The R bill martinez
Here With, carl gallups senior Pastor A Dickory Hammock baptist Church, In,
Milton florida amazon top sixty best selling author and of
course world. Renowned speaker he's all over the, place speaking
and by the Grace, of god we got him here
today to be able to share these things that are
so important, for you especially In this. Christmas, Season, anyway
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carl you were going to say before, THE break i
want to.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Turn, it, yeah yeah and thank you for the sweet
introduction and all the kind things. You SAID and i
give praise all praise To The lord jesus to. You shuahamashiyuk,
but NO what i was SAYING is i want to
take what you said AND what i said and remind
people this.
Speaker 14 (44:45):
Is.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Important now the lefties are their heads are. Gonna explode
the people that think we descended from monkeys swinging, in
trees their heads are. Gonna explode but here's. The deal
i'm not here to disparage other. Faith systems But what
i'm going to say, is, historically, biblically literarily spiritually one hundred.
(45:07):
Percent truth there is no other book on the planet
that has, ever existed or, is existing or will exist
Like the Word. Of god let, me explain there's no
other book that has fifty places in It from Deuteronomy
to zachariah prophesying the Return of israel To The middle
(45:28):
east in the. Last days who would have? Done that
who would have dared to write? A book and it
didn't happen for twenty six hundred years after they had gone.
Into captivity who would have even dreamed of? Saying That
the quran says nothing, About That the Teachings of buddhist
says nothing. About That The hindu vedas says nothing. About
that nostradamus didn't say anything About the one of the
(45:50):
most cataclysmic events in global history has happened in our.
Historical lifetime the whole world is Aimed, at Israel, anti Semitism,
Anti Israel the, muslim world Led. By persia iran is
gathering together its forces to continue to. Pummel them and
only the Word of god said it, would happen categorically
(46:14):
said and even name the nations that would come against This.
Returned israel it also named the. Demonic outpouring it, also
named at the, same time concurrent, with that would be
a pouring Out of. God's spirit all of these things
point the doctrines, of demons the Attack. On Christians charlie
(46:35):
kirk he, represented that if, you would in our global information,
system community not that he was mister perfect or a
saint or an angel, from heaven but his, his word
his delivery represented The evangelical. Christian Community so satan took.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Him OUT and i mean he Was more he was
more spiritual. Than POLITICAL and i think people have misunderstood. His, Message, GOD.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yes i think. So too revelation twelve gives, that prophecy
Not About. Charlie kirk, but listen It says, revelation twelve.
Verse twelve, it says woe unto. You world in the
last days you of, the earth in the, last Days
because satan has been, thrown down and now he's filled
with rage because he knows his time. Is short he
knows the Return. Of jesus, you know he was there at.
(47:27):
The crucifixion it terrified him because he thought that was
going to put an end To this. Jesus guy and
then three days later he rises from. The dead satan.
Was there he. Freaked out now he knows he's in his.
Last Days so revelation twelve, says that but he goes
On to satan and The dragon satan was, thrown down filled.
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With rage he knows his time, is short then it
says he and he went off then to make war
against those who hold to the Testimony Of. Jesus christ
it's right there In the Book. Of relation that book
is two thousand, YEARS old, I, mean bill think. About
it two thousand, years old and it has come alive in.
(48:09):
Our lifetime and the whole world watched an assassination of
man's basically his head. Blown off they tried to do
It To donald trump while he. Was talking they actually
hit him in, the head but he just barely turned
and it grazed us they wanted us to. See it
satan wants us to watch it the, whole world to,
be terrified to be to be, blown away to be paralyzed.
(48:33):
By it this is the world we're. Living in Only
the Word of god prophesied all. Of this Only the Word,
of god. Nothing Else so i'm saying people need to
turn To the Word, of god which Points To, Jesus,
Christ god goth Of, the resurrection the giving Of The,
holy spirit the coming again Of. The lord they need
to turn. To that, you know, people, say well you're,
(48:53):
Preaching now, WELL yeah i mean it's biblical truth and it's.
Historical truth well you're.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Doing it because first, Of all god, Loves them he, loves,
us okay and we want to do what.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Makes the. Father proud.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah right and that's the THING that i keep, Reminding,
people carl is that do you realize How much god?
Speaker 5 (49:18):
Loves?
Speaker 13 (49:18):
You?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yes yes And the Word of god is a love
Letter from heaven to those that have a heart that's
open and in the old cliche and you just about
said it a, minute AGO but i use it all.
The time, people, say well we can't stand you telling,
us this and you're just preaching to us you think
you're going to scare us. Into heaven, all THAT and
i tell people all, the, time HEY if i can
scare you, INTO heaven i would do it because it's
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your decision. Is eternal but the old cliche. IS this
i feel like YOU. And I the bible says we're
supposed to be ambassadors for. The kingdom we speak As
though god himself were speaking. Through Us the bible, says that,
all right YOU and i are like two ambassadors walking down,
the sidewalk and we look and this house is, on
(50:05):
fire and it's we can see it the back, of
it smoke. AND flames, i actually as a police officer
that happened. TO me i was in a housing PROJECT
and i saw it. Burning down the people. WERE asleep
i went door, TO door i got on. THE radio
i called all the, my BACKUP and i went and
dragged people out of, their HOMES thinking i might. GET
shot i kicked open, some doors thinking that somebody might,
(50:26):
shoot me but they were all getting ready to. BURN
alive i got a big Accommodation to valor for, all
that and was. Written up so this is all. Public
information i'm not making. This UP but i feel like
we're like that and we're screaming your house is, burning
down your house is burning and, get out and, they,
go oh. Go away you're just trying to scare me.
INTO something i can't, stand you you bunch of bunch.
(50:47):
Of idiots and that's how the world is. Right now it's, burning,
down brother it's, burning down and we're trying to tell
people how to be saved from being. Eternally.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Lost, exactly well the thing is the number one selling,
book Still, The. Bible carl it is, recent months there's
been an increase of forty percent in sales Of, the
bible so people are turning. To IT and i, would say,
like you as an ambassador and to other people of
faith who have ears to hear and eyes, to see
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is that it really it behooves us as ambassadors to
be in alignment With what god is doing so that
we can help those that are searching, and seeking so
that when they come, to church, you know we don't
get upset with them because they took our, parking space
so they're sitting in our.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Special.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
PLACE apew i had to laugh at myself the other
DAY because i found MYSELF and i bring that up
because it's a. Self indictment somebody, dared sit, you know
put THEMSELVES where i. Normally SIT and i had to tell.
MY wife, i go oh, My God. I'm sheldon you
have The big.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Bang theory he had.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
His SPECIALTY and, i said oh, MY god i Mean
The holy.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
SPIRIT accent I. AM sheldon i CANNOT believe i.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Did, THAT yeah. I, know Listen the Book of james talks.
About that it talks. About that, he says. It's this,
you know a poor man comes into. Your congregation it's
not really about rich. And poor but, he says and, you,
say here you sit on the floor at. My feet
you can't have. My Seat the Book of james, Says
That and, james says.
Speaker 8 (52:19):
Stop that.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Stop that this is the Family of. God, people see
we're not A collect see those of us that are
born again and we go to church, a lot and
we're growing In. The lord sometimes we get, to, thinking
yeah this is a collection of perfect. People, here no,
we all we all came out of a. Following. WORLD man,
I mean i tell my congregation all, the time do
you know THIS year i am finishing my thirty ninth
(52:41):
year as, their Pastor and i'm getting ready to go into,
forty YEARS and i, REMIND them, i SAID when i,
CAME here i was. A KID basically i was. Thirty
one i'd been a COP since i. WAS eighteen I
was florida's first eighteen year old law, enforcement officer AND
so i had a background, behind me a. Good ONE
but i came there at like thirty one years. Of
age and SO now i tell them all, THE time,
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i say, YOU know, i said we've been together all,
this time and you've seen you have seen a lot.
Of things but the bottom, line is all, this time
we've been able to fix a lot of stupid problems that.
CHURCHES have i told them a long, TIME ago, i,
said LOOK if i, find Out and i'm not, Being
ugly i'm just, Telling you i'm the. Pastor HERE if
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i find out you've got, a seat but a guest
comes in and they're looking and, you're saying, excuse me
you can't, DO that, I said i WILL tell i,
will STOP and i, will say mister, and, missus guest you.
Sit here you guys hit. The door i'm, telling YOU
and i don't care if you're a deacon or an.
ASSOCIATE pastor i mean We are we're going to be a.
(53:46):
Real church we're not going to be a bunch of
selfish people thinking that we. HAVE arrived i, tell them,
you know you. Raise me you've watched me grow in.
Forty years i've grown In, the lord, you know and
So and i'm still Growing and i'm not quite perfect yet.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
You are look.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
At it we got about a minute a, half left
and we need a lot. More TIME but i want
you to Give a christmas, message here an, abbreviated one,
you know because this is this is my favorite time
of the year for all.
Speaker 8 (54:16):
The, Me, Too.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Thanksgiving, christmas yeah. Uh so so the bottom line, is
this and we've only got. A Minute so i'm gonna
do very brief From the Garden, of Eden when God,
told satan from the womb of a woman is coming
a male child that will crush, your kingdom all the
Way through galatians four. To four right in The middle
paul wrote Half The. New testament in the middle, of it,
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Our sin and all the way in between three hundred
prophecies of the Coming, of messiah how where he would,
be born how he would live, the miracles he would do,
the cross he would go to the resurrection that. Would
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celebration of the Coming. Of christ this whole time, of
year right now until the End of december and End,
of january it's All about god keeping his promise and
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Same hope if you haven't Turned To, jesus christ. Please
do this is. Serious stuff.
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It's, eternal yeah because you know it all is preceded
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love peace joy and all. In preparation, you know we're Going,
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jesus will be back and he's coming, right.
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Right, That's right and. Never doubt satan hates everything we're.
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Our eyes don't you love that he?
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Getting america back.
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On Track Bill, Martinez, live hey. Good morning six minutes
after the top of, The Hour bill. Martinez here great
to have you. With us We've Got peter lamas. Joining
us he's, an Attorney a, republican strategist first generation immigrant From,
socialists albania so he's, been there BOUGHT the, t shirt
and he knows what socialism and communism is.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
All, about peter welcome.
Speaker 4 (58:51):
The show good to have you.
Speaker 5 (58:52):
With us thank you very much for. Having me so
good to. See, it well it's so important to.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Hear your story because you've experienced this. First hand and
our country right now is slipping more and more. Into
socialism and what comes out is The Recalled president trump
in one Of the state Of the unions Saying that
america would never become a. Socialist country little did. We
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know a couple of years after, that statement we've Got
A new york mayor who is a sold.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
Out, socialist.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
Well not only we Have A new york mayor who
just got elected as, a socialist but we have elected
officials In The United states House of representatives and Even
a senate that they're, openly socialist Whether it's Omar or
Shalid Or. BERNIE sanders, i mean we have people that
were elected and they got sworn in to Uphold the
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constitution and Defend, the constitution and Protect the constitution and
Defend The. United states yet their allegiance is not exactly
that doesn't square with the cont institutional requirements of. Those
offices what we have done in, this country for, whatever
reasons we have failed to make a clear demarcation or
clear distinction between the greatness, of capitalism between the greatness
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constitutionalism and the founding documents of, this country and the
failed liberal policies that come, from socialism socialism. And communism
there is no difference between. The two socialism is just
a stepping stone, to communism which is command and control over.
The population they do not, Recognize liberty they do not,
Recognize freedom they do not recognize family. Traditional values they
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believe that government is the solution to the problems that.
Humanity faces unbeknownst, to them or maybe, they know but
they deny that. They know but unbeknownst to people who
follow that ideology is the fact that government under those
circumstances called socialism, and communism it is the problem of
everything that. Humanity faces if you go back To The
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soviet union that what used, to be and always down
the line To today's Cuba and China And, north venezuela
millions and millions of people have, been, arrested beaten tortured
and killed because they disagree with. That ideology my family
was subjected. To that my father, was arrested beaten and
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tortured because he failed to notify the government that my
BROTHERS and i wanted To escape albania and search for freedom.
And Opportunity and i'll tell you. ONE thing i always
tell people that my father sacrificed his life so my
BROTHERS and i would live. In Freedom, THANK god i
don't have to do that for. My kids but people
should recognize the fact that there are people out there
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who are willing to die to make sure that their
kids will live in freedom. And Opportunity and americans have
proven that times. And again and we should not allow
this evil ideology called socialism or communism to spread In the.
Western civilization it is an. Evil ideology you cannot describe.
Speaker 20 (01:01:58):
It.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Otherwise, exactly well when you look back in the, twentieth
century one hundred, years, socialism communism what did they affect
over one hundred? Million?
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
DEATHS right i mean that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Is incredible and the deal is even when you go
back and you go back in history, and say tell
me where communism or. Socialism worked nowhere in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
The world nowhere in. The world THEN when i hear
Younger generation american born citizens claiming that some, of them
not all, of them we should be honest. About it
but some of them claim that we can do better
if you. Allow us this ideology. Can work if we,
allow us we can implement. It better there is no
way of implementing socialism without. Brutal force and should be
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mindful of the fact that when socialists come, to power
they come in with a bunch of promises that we're
going to. Apply, equality okay it sounds good on the piece,
of paper but human beings were not made to. Be
equal we got. Created us and the way that each
and every one of us has been endowed with certain
talents that someone else may not have them and give
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us the freedom to make decisions on our own to, pursue,
life liberty and pursuit, of happiness which we have that
on the founded documents of. This country no other country
in the world has this kind of documents such, as
Ours the Declaration, of Independence that god has endowed us
with these rights exactly pursue. Them freely the government shouldn't
dictate us how we're going to. Pursue them once the
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socialists come, to power they will start persecuting and prosecuting
anyone who disagrees. With them i've. Seen that millions of
people have. Seen that and when we hear this ideology
coming To The united states And the western civilization is
being threatened, by it Including The, United states we're gonna
have to stand up. To it we're gonna have to
stand up to it and make sure that we identified
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located and obliterated once and.
Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
For all it is a cancer if we allow it
to spread in. Our, country, well historically freedom has never.
Been free it is always required, A revolution it's. Required
courage and this might be the crossroads that we're at.
Speaker 13 (01:04:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Now peter is this, next generation, you know joined with
us the older generation to come alongside and defend, these,
values because like you mentioned the. INALIENABLE rights, i mean here's.
The exchange you have inalienable rights given to You, by, god,
life liberty and the pursuit. Of happiness that those three
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things are in conflict. With communism so why would you,
surrender life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that, are
inalienable That are god? Given rights and you're going to
surrender that to some central committee that says they, know,
better right or they think they, know better they haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Tried it american, born citizens the ones who are supporting
this ideology and voting for, this ideology haveven lived in the.
COMMUNIST country i joke about it SOMETIMES and i say
that it should be Mandatory for american citizens to live
in these countries to see what socialism can do to a,
human being can do to, a country can do. To
civilization and we.
Speaker 17 (01:05:05):
Have to go.
Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
That far Look, at cuba we don't have to go.
That far you look at what used to Be The,
Soviet union Look, at china Look At. North korea we
don't see people Fleeing the west into. These countries we
see people trying to flee. Those countries and move To.
The west what, bugs me or, bothers me or perturbs
me the most is that we get people come Into
The united states from, these countries and the moment They become,
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american citizens somehow they embrace the same ideology that drove
them out of. Their countries they pledge allegiance directly or
indirectly to that flag that they left behind that drove
them out of. Those COUNTRIES and i think we have
to do a better job to make sure that we
educate the, younger population especially the. Younger population we have
even older people who believe in. That ideology but we
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have to do a better job to vet people who
Come To united states who help. Our values when you look,
at immigration, for example in the eighteenth and, nineteenth century
late eighteenth and early, nineteenth century we brought people To The.
United states we pretty much had the same Values that,
Americans Had judeo, christian values believed in the same way.
Of life they, wanted freedom they. Wanted liberty but then
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we change this when you look At the obama administration
lowered the standards always Coming To, united states That the
biden administration did away with the. Standards completely we have
no idea who's coming To The united states and this
is a threat that we're having from within because we're
important third country people and we're going to become a.
Third country we're Not care if we're not careful, of, this.
Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Well you can't have, you know enclaves of, you know.
Separate countries as, you say look what's Happening, in minnesota
you know With the. SOMALIA community, i mean look at
their pledge of allegiance Is. TO somalia, i mean and
you even have elected officials saying as.
Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Much right that we have at least three of them
right now or four of them In The United states
House of representatives that they say that their allegiance actually
still remained so the country that they. Left BEHIND and
i heard one of them which really sort of shocked,
me that oh, if something if things don't work out here,
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FOR me i can always go back to. My country,
i'm thinking what is? Your country which one is? Your
country you Get The united states to Embrace the american way,
of life and you are given the opportunity to become
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hold allegiance to a country that drove.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
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We're back with your nineteen minutes hacked on the top
of the. Hour Right now bill Martinez Here with peter
Lamosh And, attorney republican strategists first Generation Immigrant. From, socialists albania, Yeah,
you know peter as, we were saying Even My friend
trevor lauden has been saying for years that we're we're
talking over one Hundred Card carrying Democratic socialists in congress
and all this is, having an influence and this is
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these are the people that are creating these policies that
are destroying capitalism or.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Certainly getting in the. Way of it and look at
the fruit. OF these, policies i mean it's, just You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
STRIVING america, crazy i mean, we're you know we're confused, over,
our gender gender what bathroom? You can, use you know
this is all brought to you by an entity that
wants to do everything they Can to, upend western.
Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
CIVILIZATION right yeah i mean it's it's interesting because you
hear the liberals telling us that they can resolve so
these complicated issues that, humanity Is facing or, america is
facing yet they cannot identify what is a man. Or
a woman we had a lady who, was you know
a Pointed At The United states supreme court who couldn't
define a woman and she was. A female, herself i
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mean just think about the positions that these people are
Holding In the, united states Government Including The United, states
supreme court that they, are you know implementing policy and
laws that are in conflict with what. We stand for
americans who. Are very simple we just want to be
left alone. From the government we want to have. Our
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traditional values we want to raise our kids the way
we want to. Raise our kids we want to have,
a good job, living good neighborhoods and these are things
that we're not. Asking for much we're just asking the
government not to impose certain values that are in contradiction
with what. WE believe in i don't want my kids
to be taught you know that they. Are fifteen genders.
They're not fifteeners we have two of them and three
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of them since the biblical times and. Nothing has changed
and these ARE things that I think the republicans, should
be fearless should, have the, backbone the character and the
forty two to, fight this ideology because the sooner, we
fight it the sooner, we defeat it the better it
Is For the United states of america and better it Is.
For The west thank god That We have donald, trump
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right now, who IS unfiltered and. I love them he
has no fear to call, certain cultures garbage re refer
to them. What they are if these people who are
Coming To the united states from third world countries couldn't
do well, in their countries couldn't, save their countries but
they come here and try to impose their. Values upon
us this is something That. Is not american when MY
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brothers and I Came, to united states we were told
pretty much by, my own parents, my own father you
Go To the united states To become an american if you,
can make it you don't go over There to Turn.
Americans into albanians If, you want albanianism. You stay here But,
you know americanism you. Go over there and we have
to do a better job vetting people who aren't Coming To.
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THE united, STATES i mean i, mentioned this before and
when We had, the Biden administrator, the obama administration we
lowered the standards of People Coming. To united States then
the biden, administration came in and we have no idea
who's Coming To. The united states people that are pledging
allegiance to the country that. They left behind if they
love their country so much and they love their, flag
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so much, by all means you're free to leave and
go back to where. You came from we have no.
Problems with that but you want, to live here You
join the american, way of life You Respect those, judeo
christian values you respect, our traditional values you respect the
founding documents, of this country and become part, of this
country but. Legally not, belye you, Know.
Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
It's interesting peter for many years the country was debating
separation of, church and state and it's interesting how the
left has turned it on its head because what they've
done is they've kind of come up with a secular
type of religion and they want to impose that secular
type of religion. On the state so why did we
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have the argument about separation of church and state to
begin with when that's what they, want, To impose right
because this is an ideology that they're trying to impose
upon us, to give, us you know to, change our,
freedoms our liberties these inalienable rights given To, us by
god surrender those and pledge allegiance to the state because supposedly,
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they know better and there's, been you know like there's
been a demonstration. THAT they, have i mean all you
got to do is go back a couple of years
and remember HOW, they, mishandled covid right and you want
them to handle your affairs in the same way that THEY.
Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Did, during covid.
Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Well they're getting away with this and this is. What
they do when you look at the educational public system
that we, have right now we're not teaching our kids
with the founding documents. Of this country we're not teaching
Them with The, declaration of independence and it clearly states
we are Endowed. BY the, creator i mean what is
the separation of church of. State and state If the
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founding document, of this country, the first one it stays
that we are Endowed. By the creator there Is. The
word creator there is no separation here what we are
miiest understanding here that we're Not imposing our christian. Value
on anyone if people, don't want to don't want to
pray the WAY you and i are and allis, Pray
perfectly fine but we have problems when the government says
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that you shouldn't, pray at all you should believe in.
This founding document you shouldn't Believe in. Your biblical values
it's disturbing that we have allowed this to. Go SO
far and I think That republicans and conservatives. Should be
FEARLESS last night i went to an event and was.
AN interesting event i went to support the guy who's
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Running For The, united states Congress. First generation american. He's
an attorney and, when he spoke you Referred, to the
bible and he said that the praise being not afraid
is Repeated in the bible three one hundred and, sixty
five times and he called upon his supporters be not afraid,
to stand up be not a prey to, defend your
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values be not afraid to, defend, your family. Values your
tradition you're, the Founding, documents The. CONSTITUTION the, declaration i mean,
he WAS fearless and i HAVE hoped when i see
this younger generation, being more conservative believe. It or not
see some of, them very, conservative very, biblical very traditionalist
and They understand the constitution and the founding documents of
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this country as the foundation of what, we stand for
and they're, fighting for it and it gives me hope.
FOR this country i don't think that every left wing
out there is predominant in our culture, at this point
but we have to prevent it From Spreading From, New,
York city california detroit in other places to the other parts.
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Of the country we've got to take over.
Speaker 8 (01:19:35):
Our.
Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
EDUCATIONAL system peter i mean when you look at you
know the professors that are in these colleges and that
where do, They come from what's?
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
What's? Their ideology right.
Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
There are left wingers about ninety. Percent of them very
few of. Them are conservative but the most interesting THING
is that i used to work for an Educational System In.
NEW york city i did background investigation for the teachers and.
You name It during, the juliani administration none of their
kids were. Attending public education ALL of these, i tell
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you what is? THAT telling you i asked that question.
DURING a, Meeting i said i'm part. Of the system
you're part. Of the system why would you if this system?
Is so great how come your kids are not? Attending
public education they were going. To private institutions they made
sure that their kids were educated, in private schools and
then they would attend after school programs which, were religiously
(01:20:26):
oriented and so they made sure that their kids would
remain dominant to our kids if they went to, this
you know, failed school. Policy educational system there was a
program once introduced that it said money, follows the child
meaning that if you want to take your child from
a public school that was failed to a public school that,
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was not failing. It was successful the biggest obstacle that
we had at that time and we continue to have
in The state of connecticut is, the teacher's union because
they know that if you take your kids to, an
unfailing school their school system is, going to fail and
therefore they wouldn't have control over the educational thing. Of
our kids so there is a reason that they keep
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on sort of providing or, raising our kids or, forming
our kids or shaping them into this, way of thinking
and then they go out there in real life and
express those ideas and try to. Promote those ideas but
this is, very well organized very well coordinated, by the
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Of our kids and, in doing that they're destroying. THE very,
child i mean This Is what charlie, Kirk. DIED for,
peter i mean he was there trying to. Elevate the
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Which shocked, Me he Said charlie kirk kirk was the
biggest recruiter. Into the church he said he brought so
Many people to jesus that Not even the pope could do.
What he did, the second thing He Said that charlie
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You With us bill martinez here with the One And,
only horace cooper the former, constitutional law professor recognized legal.
Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Commentator and author. He's here too We'll.
Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Talk about scotus we'll also talk about the latest that's Happening.
Off Of, Venezuela horace, Cooper Welcome Always, Happy New, Year
Merry Christmas, Happy New.
Speaker 8 (01:26:59):
Year merry christmas i'm really really excited for all the
Great things that god has In store for america and
for me.
Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
And, my family, well you know this IS the thing i.
KEEP telling, people i mean it's kind of amazing what's
going on right now if you have, Ice to see god.
IS really moving i mean there's things that are happening
here in our country, that the, media mainstream media which
tells you where the mainstream. Media is at and of,
COURSE the, left i mean. THEY'RE so GODLESS i mean
i feel FOR them and i pray for them, because
(01:27:29):
you know they're a danger to themselves and their families
by decidedly making a decision to turn Their.
Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Backs.
Speaker 8 (01:27:38):
On, god, right well absolutely this is part Of What the,
old testament, says you Know, in second chronicles my people
who are called, by, my Name right the lord says
that if we repent and we acknowledge him that he
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turned from, eriic wicked ways that he will, hear our
prayers and he will hear. Hill our land there are
the earliest stages of a Revival, happening in america and it's.
Been sorely, needed You, know in america we've had a
(01:28:21):
couple of. Really big revivals we had one Right After.
The civil war we had another One Right After. World
War two billy graham was a big. Part of it
we thought we were going. To start, ONE you know
i was two or, three years old But we thought
america thought it would start one with what Was Called
(01:28:41):
the jesus movement. In the seventies but we are really
starting to see record numbers of our young people going to.
Church accepting salvation and my prayer is that that just,
expands and expands and what pc is a Outcome. That
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pleases god and when, he is pleased there will be blessings,
for our society even for those Who don't.
Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Honor him, exactly you know, the thing is again we're
Reminded how much.
Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
GOD loves, us i mean here It is.
Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
The christmas season, we're an advent the Greatest gift that
god gave us. And his son, but you Know You
recount second, chronicle seven fourteen which again is A demonstration
of god's love for us because he knew that we
were going to mess up and he inspired The leadership
of israel to make that proclamation that when, you screw
(01:29:42):
Up you know god. Will forgive you and you got
to know that, first Of all that god recognizes you. As,
His people right, you're not aliens, you're not illegal you.
Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Are his people and he.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Says his people and so you're sanctified in out a
side because he calls. You by, name you know if
my people who are called by my name and he
calls us. BY your, name i mean this is how much,
This again manifestation this, is CLEAR evidence if i can
put it, in, legal Terms horse that god loves us
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because he knows that we're going, to mess up and
he gave. Us a, remedy he, said look at if
you will acknowledge that you have gotten outside and over
your skis and you've. Been, a knucklehead Hey look at
i'm the father. WHO loves you i will forgive. You
your sins, i'll, restore you know the good times. Back
to you i will.
Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Heal your land all.
Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Will be forgiven and you were going to be right with?
Speaker 15 (01:30:37):
Me?
Speaker 8 (01:30:38):
Once, AGAIN right yes i want to amplify, by the
way as we say, in my church. THIS will preach
i Want to amplify it isn't just. Us, as individuals
yes we as individuals, need to repent but the reward is,
to our land. To our nation If we as christians
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do what, we should do and if enough of us
do what, we should do our whole. Country will prosper,
THIS country's existence i believe came about as one of
the Greatest gifts that god has Placed. On planet earth, and,
you say oh what are? You talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
We have slavery.
Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
America today is the country that provides more support for
charity than any other country. On the, planet in fact
our charitable giving exceeds that of The, government of japan
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of The, government of china of The, government of england
of the GOVERNMENTS.
Speaker 13 (01:31:56):
Of the.
Speaker 8 (01:31:56):
Eu all combined exactly who sets the record, For faith Giving.
It is americans and if this planet is going to
be able to have it said, that every woman man
and child hears about the greatest gift, of all salvation
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it's gonna be because of what we do with our
exactly excited about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
One hundred percent and this, Is the thing this is
why the people who Are called, by God's name because.
God Is Moving as charles, Finney, would say horace that
revival happens when. It's most needed and when you look
at our, country right, now the chaos the spiritual chaos.
THAT it's, in i mean we're so confused that we
(01:32:48):
have what ninety, different gender, assignments you know and now
they're saying that your gender is.
Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Assigned at, BIRTH it's, just i.
Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Mean it's so absurd where we are right now, as
the country and we can't seem to solve the problems.
At this level those problems are solved. In the heavenlyes
that's why we have, to elevate ourselves get out of
the morass of this confusion and this demonic controlled zip
(01:33:18):
codes and land in which we live, in right Now
temporarily thank god and Reach out to, God, and say
god we, need your help and, confess and say look at.
We deserve this we deserve where we are right now
because we turned our. Back on You and the bible's
real clear that once you turn Your, back on god
you really, render yourself.
Speaker 8 (01:33:37):
Stupid, don't, you well, yes in fact he even says
that he curses us by making it harder for us
to see our. Way Towards him remember Pharaoh in The,
book of exodus in the Story he. Hardened Pharaoh's heart The,
(01:33:57):
book of, acts Excuse me The book of rome says
the same. Thing can happen And that's why i'm so excited,
about the revival because what it means Is That the
holy spirit is allowing people to have, ministered to them
let them hear of the, need to repent to Turn,
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and hear god and then able to Be. Blessed. By.
Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
God exactly yeah and and my my cautionary tale is
to those who are maybe a little bit ahead of
the curve right now and they are more In, alignment
with god be prepared for these. People coming in don't
get upset because they took your parking spot or your
favorite spot, in the, fugue, you.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Know, uh you know be prepared because you never know
what it's.
Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Going to. Take You know the bible says the, word aptly,
Spoken YOU know horace i found sometimes it's just a
smile aptly given to, a fellow, journer you know journeyer
who is, going, through this, uh, you know this this
this life that.
Speaker 8 (01:34:59):
We're, going through, yes s, yes you know. There's simple things,
they're big things but. They're simple THINGS like recently i
was in an uber vehicle and the gentleman was talking
about some of the challenges that. He was facing when,
OUR trip ended i asked if he would. Agree to
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pray he willingly did so and thanked me afterwards because
he said he had been. Wanting to hear so we
can all. Play a role but let's talk a little
Bit About the, supreme court too because we got.
Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
About a minute we got about a minute left before we,
go to break so we'll kind of wrap this up
just only.
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Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
A sidebar, HORSE you know i love it when people
want to, pray for me, but. Me personally don't don't.
GIVE me fruitcake i. Don't understand fruitcake it's a. Mystery
to me and it's kind.
Speaker 8 (01:35:53):
Of like.
Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
Liver you know, some, People, say well bill you've never
really had my fruitcake or. REALLY good fruitcake i don't know.
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Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
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On yeah exactly we, love our. Parents all right we
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Continues with, Us, right now horace you wanted to Let's.
TALK about scotis i mean A lot of i mean
things are, bubbling up, here and you as a, Recognized
legal commentator i'm sure, are like me expecting some positive
news to come Out Of. The, supreme court.
Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
Well let's talk about. Where We are president trump's administration
is about. Ninety THREE percent when i, was in school
that was considered. An a grade ninety three percent success
Rate Before The United. States Supreme, court barack obama the so,
(01:41:46):
called constitutional scholar was about forty five Percent Before, the
supreme court and he set the dubious record of having
the most unanimous rulings against him of any president in the. Last,
fifty years, well Guess what mister biden's record was Worse
(01:42:09):
Than even barack, obama, a wrong wrong wrong on. So,
many issues now he didn't get as many unanimous rulings
Against Him Because Supreme, court justice jackson who was prepared
apparently to take any crazy argument and rule in, favor
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of it so you couldn't Get a unanimous but, he
kept losing and he lost at a rate where his
victories were about thirty two or thirty three percent, of
the time if you were betting it was a good,
idea to say let's find Out where the biden administration
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IS and assume i don't even know anything, about The
law but i'm going.
Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
To go the other, Way, exactly exactly WELL that, was
i guess pretty much the theme of the old Administration
And the democratic party. During.
Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
That, era, right well yeah it was taking the law
to places where. It absolutely shouldn't it Was saying to christian,
schools and organizations you are going to be forced to
hire people who reject. Your church's teachings, our founders intended
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they absolutely intended with the Drafting Of the first amendment
to give amount of space so that people of faith
could operate and. Live their, lives you know earlier IN
the segment i talked about how much charity there has
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because our, charter Our constitution Our bill of rights specifically respects.
People of Faith both mister Obama and mister biden regularly
target people of faith to force them to undertake views
and beliefs that. They personally rejected if you have an
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employee and that EMPLOYEE tells you i. SHARE your beliefs
i will. Honor your beliefs and then you find out,
they're having affairs they're, engaging in slander they're undertaking a whole.
Host Of Behaviors the supreme court has consistently said in a,
(01:44:31):
case like that the organization can in fact terminate you for.
Failing to repent so this has Really Been The Roberts,
the roberts court which many people are a, bit critical
of has been A Bulwark of. First, amendment protections, well.
Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
You know it makes.
Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
You WONDER horace and. I don't, know i mean maybe
it's unfair to, ask to question but it's one. That
begs asking And That is barack obama presented himself as A,
AS a, Christian I Mean, jeremiah wright christian and and
Here You got joe biden As. A practicing catholic, and
(01:45:18):
you know they were just they added to the confusion
and really put us on this trajectory Where so many
americans who bought, into their, personalities you know are kind
of lost in the. Wilderness RIGHT now if i can
put it, IN those terms.
Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
A lot of what had been Presented to the american
people is. Quickly falling apart People Forget, that barack obama when,
he originally ran said on a really fundamental issue of
the day that he supported marriage between a man and
a woman and didn't. Support redefining it and yet his
(01:45:57):
administration pushed in fort Gay marriage on america in a
way that has, had a very. Very consequential effect and,
the truth is this is what, he'd always believed but
he had wanted us to. Believe something different but let's
take that. Off the table What About The. Affordable care
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act if you, like your doctor you can. Keep your
doctor if you like, your insurance policy you can keep.
Your insurance policy it turns out that. Was a, lie
in fact it was Listed By the associated press as
a Lie of the year because Of such consequential Look
(01:46:43):
At what president biden did with the ending of Our.
Presence in afghanistan it was an unmitigated nightmare that we
today as a country are. Still suffering from and yet,
when he campaigned he said he would be a champion.
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Of foreign policy it would Be great for america to
have someone with his leadership and his Experience On The Senate.
Foreign relations committee that turned out to. Be a nightmare
my point in all that is to say what we
see when these people run and what they do after
(01:47:25):
they get in office are completely. And totally different our
president today has been Working With Our united states constitution
and pursuing the very principles that, our founders intended rather
than the deviations that. His predecessors sought.
Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
And when, you violate, these you know the wisdom, of
the Constitution you put. Americans in Danger You mentioned afghan
afghanistan and the Pulling. Out of, afghanistan of course many
refugees came here, into the country and We had one
afghan refugee travel across the country And Kill a national
(01:48:11):
guards woman and severely Injure another who we're getting some
positive news, that he's, recovering You, Know thank god but
sadly we lost, a Quality Individual a national guards woman.
Because of this and this is the cost of violating
our constitution and compromising the number one priority of the,
(01:48:36):
chief executive officer the commander in chief. Of our country
when he, violates our Constitution he puts. America at.
Speaker 8 (01:48:43):
Risk THAT'S right so i said at the time that we,
as a nation and that was Speaking, directly to congress
need to change the law And Challenge the supreme court
ruling back in the late nineteen seventies and again in the,
(01:49:04):
middle two thousands that if a, person doesn't die you
can't have the death. Penalty for them. Here's my argument,
first of all the founders never. Agree to that but.
Here's my, argument you do, as a, killer a shooter
attacker everything you possibly can, to murder someone and science
(01:49:30):
and skilled physicians and even the strong prayer of others
prevent that. Person from dying you shouldn't escape the punishment
for doing what. You have done our founders said any
time you, commit a, felony any felony you were eligible for. The,
(01:49:51):
death Penalty now the kennedy ruling that came out in
two thousand and five suggested that losing couldn't punish a
man for brutally? Raping three children is it or?
Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Is it six what's the number rad would?
Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
Have been allowed and they said, the, ruling was well.
No one died this child's innocence completely each one of those.
Children completely destroyed there ought to. Be a penalty if
you go Up to a national guardsman and you shoot him,
in the head even, if they live you. Ought TO
(01:50:37):
pay and i asked That that's what. Congress should do
pass a new law allowing for these kinds of crimes
to be, death penalty eligible, and if Necessary Challenged the
supreme court TO overturn what i believe was. An erroneous
decision if.
Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
We're going to do something about, dissuading, of lawbreakers well,
first of all there needs to be, consequences, right now,
right you know we've got a, breakdown in consequences and
this is why this. Crime is going and, then thank
God You've got donald trump coming in, and you know
trying to restore. LAW in, order i mean that is
Foundational To. The democratic Republic yet the democrats Are Saying
(01:51:20):
that donald trump is a threat for democracy when everything
he's doing is to.
Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, good morning.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Six minutes after the top of the hour, Bill Martinez here.
Great to have you with us. Also, we've got Michael
pack And, the director and producer of the Last six
hundred Meters joining us. He's the president of Manifold Productions
and Palladium Pitchers. Michael, welcome the show. Good to have
you with us.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Thank you. Good to be with you.
Speaker 6 (00:32):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Well, I want to talk about something you recently addressed,
and that is the Department of Defense sending out a
warning to Senator Mark Kelly said he could be recalled
to face navy charges. What say you, Well, first of all.
Speaker 7 (00:49):
I want to remind your viewers and listeners that they
can still get the last six hundred meters on animal.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm glad you brought that up because I was going
to ask you about that, but I want to get it.
Let's go ahead and talk about that because some people
have asked, because of course it was featured. There was
a big part of Veteran's Day and the whole holiday, so.
Speaker 7 (01:09):
Absolutely so it's still available on Amazon and will be
for the foreseeable future. Well, look, I'm really concerned about
that ad there, rat. I mean, I think it was horrible.
I mean it's one of those things. I mean, technically,
of course, in the military they don't have to obey
illegal orders, but I think there's some standard. It has
to be sort of obviously illegal. I mean, it's meant
(01:30):
to if you're like a sergeant and your lieutenant tells
you to shoot a prisoner, you're supposed to decline. But
you're not supposed to decide the constitutionality of questions like
bombing boats in Venezuela or anything like that. I mean,
how can you? And that's sort of the implication bill.
It reminds me a little bit like in my neighborhood
(01:51):
here in Chevy Chase, a very little neighborhood. Those signs
were so popular during the pandemic. You know, I trust Science,
Love Love, and those are all tautologies. And this is
a tautology too. Obviously soldiers don'tenough to obey illegal orders.
But those tautologies implied something else. When they said science
is science, they meant that that whatever doctor Factie said,
(02:13):
they would do right and When these people say don't
obey illegal orders, they mean question the orders that Donald
Trump says and make up your own mind whether you
want to follow them. That's sort of the hidden subtext.
And I think that's what angers Donald Trump and Pete
Hegsaff and right, Lisa, and I.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Think it angers most Americans that voted for Donald Trump
because they've been trying to recap him since day one.
I mean, this has been going on for years, and
we're kind of fed up with this. I mean, we've
got a country to save here, get back on track,
and all they can do is, you know, put a
stick in his spoke, so to speak, and trip him
(02:53):
up here and of course right now, I mean if
that wasn't bad enough, here we're talking a present event
who already had an attempted assassination on him. The rhetoric
that they have been dishing out that he's a fascist,
he's Hitler, and this, I mean, this is very dangerous.
And so this is another one of those arrows in
(03:14):
the quiver that are targeted for Donald Trump. And I
don't even think that for a moment that they're considering
what this would do to our country. I mean, here
we are month of November. We remember sixty two years
ago with the assassination of JFK and what it did
to this country. Could you imagine an assassination of Donald
(03:37):
Trump right now? What this would do to America?
Speaker 7 (03:40):
I cannot imagine, or if the two earlier assassination attempts
had been successful. Yes, I mean no, it is very horrible.
I agree, it's very destabilizing. In my film The Last
six hundred Meters, lots of these marines got orders they
didn't like and they thought were wrong. But you could
see it in the film as they expressed their anger
(04:03):
at being told, in particular not to finish the fight
in nu Joff and Fallujah, but they did what they
were told. I mean, that idea where they can start
questioning these things is really it's it's dangerous at a
very deep level, and it's a it's a it's disconcerting
to the you know, it puts these servicemen in a terrible, terrible.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Position exactly, you know, and watching that in the movie
The Last six hundred Meters, it was reminiscent of Vietnam.
I'm a Vietnam era vet. I wasn't in country. I
was in public relations stationed at Camp Pendleton, California. So
a lot of information went through and it was very frustrating,
especially in interviewing the Marines when they came back, you know,
(04:44):
from being in country, because there was a lot of
civilian involvement and and it was that same type of
conflict because what they would do, Michael, they would they
would go and they would conquer a hill and then
they would recede, and then the next day the commander
would tell him, you know, officials would tell him. The
(05:05):
brass would say, Hey, we got to go conquer that
hill again. Oh wait a minute, we just lost a
half a dozen of our buddies who are dead in
body bags because we just didn't. Now we've got to
go back and do it again. And this was a
cyclic type of thing that happened in Vietnam. And that's
a whole nother argument altogether with civilians being involved here.
(05:27):
So you can't blame the military for having that content,
not that you are for having that kind of consciousness,
because you go to war to win, you don't go
to play paddy cake.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Absolutely, it was really frustrating for all the Marines in
my film in the very, very similar way. But they
didn't ever decide that they couldn't that they would just
not obey orders. I mean, that's look, we have a
civilian control of the military, and civilians have been screwing
up the military. Your military has been given a good
advice and the civilia has been ignoring it for hundreds
(06:03):
of years. They'll keep doing that again. The only solution
to that problem would be a military junto where the
military takes over the government and it's run by the military,
And that's the solution in many Latin American countries, and
it doesn't work out so well. We believe in civilian
control of the military. It would be nice if they
did it, if they were at least, you know, if
(06:26):
they did it in a way that would win wars.
But in the meantime, it's not up to the military
to decide individuals on the front lines, and it puts
them in a worse position. I mean, if where they're
actually asked to make those kinds of decisions on whether
things are right or wrong, or constitutional or ethical.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know, you can't think when you're on the battlefield.
It's life or death, and everything is measured in seconds. Michael, indeed,
and so for these you know, these are elected officials,
and Mark Kelly especially, you know, Homer military himself, he
should know better. Shame on him for doing this. I am,
you know, as a as a marine myself. I'm I'm
(07:08):
just grievely disgusted with him, and I believe that every
one of them at least should be censured. I know
that Trump was very emotive about it and uh and.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Called it out for what it is. It is seditious.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Uh. And and to put that in the minds that question,
and to do it in such a nebulous way. They
didn't come in and say, hey, President Trump ordered this,
we deem this to be an unlawful order. No, they
just send it out there, you know, kind of as
a just as a you know, a bomb to be
detonated in the minds of these young soldiers.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And they were unable to name any illegal order that
Donald Trump is given right, I mean, it's not these
illegal order things tend to be at a lower level.
If the president does something illegal, the ways to challenge
it are very clear. You know, you can, you could,
you know, the Congress can challenge it. The Supreme the
law courts can challenge it if it's unconstitutional and those
(08:05):
and his actions, you know, are being challenged and we'll
see what the Supreme Court says. So the implication is
really not to want to go through the normal challenge
to question a presidential order. I mean, you know, in practice,
I mean, people have things like the Lieutenant Cally example,
talking about Vietnam and mind although he had no order,
(08:27):
apparently he did it on his own. But yeah, if
you're going to murder civilians and you're told by your captain,
that's one thing. Presidential decisions that are matters of national policy.
Speaker 8 (08:38):
You know.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
The next level down are the generals, and they have
many ways to challenge it and question it. I mean,
for example, they can announce publicly and then resign their
commissions in protest. I mean, they have lots of ways.
So it really confuses and conflates lots of things there.
And I think you're right, it's hard to know what
(08:59):
the intention was. But and I am also very disappointed
in Mark Kelly. I mean, you would think that such
a decorated marine veteran would not be Hey, Navy, Navy.
It was shocking. It's shocking.
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Hey, we're back with your nineteen minutes chapter The top
of the outright Down. Michael Pack the director and producer
of the Last six hundred Meters. The documentary available on Amazon,
and it continues to be so unless we tell you different.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Right, Let's we tell it different. And our other we've
done fifteen films. They're all available on our one of
our two websites, Manifold Productions dot com or plagin Pictures
dot com. And we have one other one on military themes.
We did a biography of Admiral Ricover, who's a very
different kind of hero, a Navy hero and an engineer
(14:59):
hero rather than a combat veteran hero. But important if
you want to do something like win the Cold War.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
Yeah, without a doubt, six hundred meters won the highest
honors at the GI Film Festival in DC and the
Hudson Institute Film Festival in New York City. As a
quick summary, Michael, I want to give you a little
bit more time for people that have heard about six
hundred meters but not really sure what it's all about.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Well, the last six hundred meters, the battles of n
Jaffan Fallujah. Attempt to tell the stories of those two battles,
which were the biggest battles in America has fought since Vietnam,
and we want to tell it from the point of
view of the people who fought there, sort of ground truth.
It's called the last six hundred meters because the Special
Forces sniper says, I don't make foreign policy. I delivered
(15:46):
the last six hundred meters of it, meaning what he
could see through his sniperscope. And that's what we did.
We didn't go into the question of should we have
been interact whether weapons of mass destruction or any of
those questions. We looked at it from the point of
view of the peaceeople on the ground, from corporals and
sergeants up to sort of one star generals who are
in the field. And I think it's important to understand
(16:06):
what those those veterans went through, just like the veterans
of the Vietnam War were I think ignored and even
mistreated for many years. People are clouded, and you know,
they're mixed feelings or negative feelings about the wars in
Iraq and Afghanistan. I think have detracted from appreciation of
the heroism and valor of the young men and women
(16:29):
who fought there.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Yeah, that followed orders, you know, and many in Vietnam
were there because of the draft. They didn't want to
be there, and and of course the way it was
reported on you know, back home, the mainstream media, how
they all contributed to this thing. I mean, it really is.
(16:51):
You know sometimes you know, the idea of freedom of
the press. I get this, our constitution, I love it.
I you know, I went into the military to defend
the constitution and our right for freedom of the press
and free speech. But you know, there it doesn't go
(17:11):
without responsibility. And I think that they contributed to some
of the damage in why many Vietnam vets came back
to the country with their heads hanging low.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
That is very true. The media and the elites, American elites,
you know, really mischaracterized the war and mischaracterized what the
American servicemen and women were doing over there. Absolutely, and
it's the same in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean they're
not they don't get there's only a focus on things
like Abu Grab and Haditha and PTSD and but these
(17:47):
people were there representing America and doing what we told
them to do and putting their lives on the line,
and some of them, you know, giving the ultimate sacrifice
and many many more wounded, and you can see it
in our film. And we need to understand and appreciate
their service.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
It's not a.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Matter of whether you think presidents were right or wrong
and sending them over there and directing them. It's a
matter of what they did on the ground.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Well, I believe that what our leaders did can be
adjudicated in a different documentary indeed, right, But this is
what makes the last six hundred meters so special because
it's from the ground floor level. It's from the soldier's
perspective and their point of view. And when you consider
Michael that probably I think it's about one percent. Some
(18:35):
have said less than one percent of citizens in America,
you know, enter the military much less than a fraction
of them are actually in a combat zone. Indeed, you know,
so it's very very unique.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Go ahead, it's right.
Speaker 7 (18:50):
We need to appreciate them, those that are in the
combat zone. And my family is one of the ones
that didn't have a traditional military service. So it was
eye opening for me to meet talk and understand these people,
and I let them tell their story. They look right
at the camera, they talk in the first person of
what they did. We show the footage of those same
people in combat doing the things they're talking about on camera,
(19:14):
and I think these are I mean, on top of
everything else, these are powerful, exciting, compelling stories. You know,
people have been fascinated by war stories from the Iliad
to Shakespeare to today, and I think they're I mean,
it's not like it's I feel it's an exciting film
in addition to telling an important story.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, the other thing that comes out in this as well, Michael,
is that these young men and women who enter the military,
they're not a bunch of bozos. I mean, they're well trained.
I mean, they are so singularly focused. This is why
our military has to be treated with.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Such a high level of respect.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That's something like especially Mark Kelly, and people in elected
office should be should have a more heightened awareness. It's
one thing to come from you know, some casual citizen
that doesn't really understand, but when you are an elected official,
and especially like I said with Senator Kelly, who raised
(20:18):
his hand took the oath of office that he lives
under to this day. Because anybody that takes the oath
of office in the military, it's till the day you die,
that oath is in force to protect and defend our
constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. And now what
they've done is these you know, some.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Have referred to them as the Seditious Six.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
They have become enemies of our own country. They are
domestic enemies by virtue of being irresponsible with their right
of free speech.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
It's very shocking. I mean it used to be said,
and I think it's still true that you know this
is even now. A historically small percentage of the people
in the Senate in Congress have served in the military.
I mean during the period where there was a draft,
it was much higher in a lot of World War
Two veterans. So you'd think that these veterans, these six
people who are veterans. They would provide the other view.
(21:15):
So it's pretty shocking that they come out this way,
and it seems pretty nakedly political because.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
They have nothing. Oh you back it up.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
They have no they.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Can't cite any illegal orders from Donald Trump. You know,
they can't really specify what they want from what they've done.
I mean, it was a very On the other hand,
as a filmmaker, I do think it was a pretty
well made, powerful, little you know, ad spot. You know,
it was very strong, it was very compelling. It just
was wrong.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yes, yeah, production values, good message, wrong, yeah exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know. It kind of reminded me a little bit
of the impeachment of Donald Trump with Lieutenant Colonel Vindaman
if you're him, and to me it was I said
all along when I heard him speak, I go, this
is a human resource issue. You know, this is something
that you know you don't agree with your boss. You
go to HR and you say, hey, I got a problem.
(22:14):
I don't agree with the boss. Now it's one thing,
you know your boss at a local level. It's another
thing if you don't agree with the President of the
United States, who is the commander in chief. He is
your really big, boss, So you better have your ducts
in a row.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
And he sounded to me at the end of the day,
just so petty and irrational.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
But that's the nature, unfortunately of a political bias and
animus that that has become so often integrated and accepted
in our culture, and particularly at this level.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
So I mean, there should.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Be a higher level, a level of ethics and behavior.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
I think you're right, And I think that kind of
thing does underpin Donald Trump's attitude towards it. I mean,
I too was shocked by that by all those people
testifying against the president. I mean, you expect loyalty from
the people that work for you, you know, they should,
you know. You know, there was a big tradition of
the people who work for the president, you know, taking
their complaints and not talking about them, at least not
(23:17):
for a while. It was pretty shocking. All these people
were ready to trash the a sitting president, you know.
And I think that sense from Donald Trump betrayal that
he had that he felt. I mean, I was in
the first Trump administration, so I remember this rather well. Yeah,
that sense of betrayal. Now he feels it again. I
(23:39):
think it fuels his anger the betrayals, the attacks on him,
the assassination attempts, but also the personal betrayal by people
who were, in this case supposed to be defending the military.
People were supposed to be defending the constitution. People he
doesn't expect turning on him makes, you know, fuels his anger.
You know, he's had whatever it is, ten years. That
(24:01):
that's sort of a lot.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
And then on top of that, Michael, you got what
over ninety percent of that which is reported on him
in the mainstream media is purposely negative ninety percent.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Give me a break.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
It's really huge. I mean, it's really incredible. I do
a lot of things on public television. I listen to
a lot of public radio. You know, it's only one side.
It's been a year since they really go out of
their way to interview people that may support or like
President Trump. The most you get is a sort of
Republican with you know, Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Right exactly. Yeah, Yeah, they don't. You know, there are conservatives.
They know how to present themselves in such a way
that they're not so enamored about Donald Trump. I mean,
they look at it objectively, and it's refreshing to hear them,
but unfortunately their voices are limited, but they're important to
hear because we need to have that objectivity. We need
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Speaker 5 (25:02):
Don't we.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
Absolutely. I think that this dominance of the left and
so much of the media has been a problem. It
would be it's dominance from any one side is a
problem anyway. I see this in the documentary film business.
There's a huge number of documentaries as an explosion of
documentaries in the last ten years. Netflix, Amazon, Hulu. They
(25:25):
say that like thirty percent of their product is nonfiction. Nonfiction.
You know, documentary is a miniseries and it's all from
one point of view. It's all from the left. I
think a lot of it is well made, a lot
of them are made by friends of ours on the left,
but the country is not well served hearing one side
of the story. And it's true across genres in the media,
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Speaker 4 (25:53):
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But you know, as they say, this too shall pass,
and I can't waited. Michael Packed, their director and producer
of the Last six hundred Meters, the documentary is still
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Take care pleasure to be with you.
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Thank you.
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Hey good Morning. AND erica i good to have you
With Us bill martin, this year and my Good Friend
carl gallips is, with us Pastor Of Hickory Hammick baptist Church, In,
Milton florida amazon top sixty best selling author and conservative talk.
RADIO hosts i think you're still, doing that. AREN'T you,
i mean, if not you're doing it here with. Me anyway, oh, yeah,
NO former i.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Don't have my. SHOW anymore i had it for twenty
two years that went all over the world and. Very
POPULAR but i travel so much NOW and i do
a lot of, book WRITING and i do, ghost writing
and a pastor, a CHURCH and i. Do media, right
now we're doing it in my. Home OFFICE but I
mean i. Travel too, SO no i don't. Have THAT
but i do have. A show IT'S Called A relevant
(30:34):
Word With Pastor, carl galsaid airs live on four radio
stations On The, gulf coast and It's on iTunes and
iHeartRadio and all over my. YouTube channel, So yeah i'm still.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Doing, radio well of course, he is and also a
former decorated law. Enforcement, officer hey real quick on, THAT
end i wanted to get your read on that silly
statement from that congressman in that Hearing with chris, he
know and talking about an unfortunate incident that occurred To
(31:05):
the national guardsmen that were shot in.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
The, head, yeah well from a law, enforcement standpoint it's
way deeper than an. Unfortunate incident what in its? Purest
form was it? An, incident yes but. Much deeper was
it unfortunate that people broke the law in attacking the? Federal? Officers,
(31:28):
yes so but it's. A crime it's just, a crime
and especially for elected officials to be involved. IN it
i don't know how they're going to deal, with this but,
you know they've got to set a precedent here otherwise
these leftist loons are just going to destroy, this country
which is what they're trying.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
To, do well, of course, of course and they've already
confused almost half the country as. IT is, i mean
the thing that's so rich, About this carl is think who.
Said this this is the same guy that Led The january,
committee hearing right and all the hyperbole and everything that.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Went on there was.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No gun the only people that got murdered were the
people that. Were there, you know people that should have
gone to jail did not go, to jail including. That
officer as, you know firing around in a. CROWDED group,
i mean that is not a. GOOD shoot i don't
care what, anybody.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Says, no, no. NO listen i can remember years ago
when all of this wokeness started, was BEGINNING and i
don't know how many. Years ago that, was, ten eleven twelve. Years, ago,
well listen it's been starting. For decades but as far as,
JUST really, I mean i Think the obama administration really
put it. On steroids Then the biden administration put it over.
(32:43):
The top so in somewhere in, THAT area i was
doing a live international television show live and the host
was complaining, or bemoaning like YOU and i are right
now about the direction, the left the wide left is
taking and they and he turned to me and, He,
(33:04):
said carl what's happening to? OUR country i. Don't understand
why do these people say? These things why do they do?
These things and the immediate ANSWER that i Think the lord,
gave me and it has since proven to be. Very
true Is That listen, Number one we are Living in
satan's world right now Until the lord returns and sets up.
His kingdom according To the Word, of god everything else
(33:25):
prophesied In the bible about the Coming, Of, christ golgotha,
the resurrection the changing of, the world the pouring out
of demonic mindsets and depravity, of mind all of that
has already come to pass right before. Our eyes the Return, Of,
Israel persia Iran. Attacking israel all of that's In the Word. Of,
god well the, other Thing the Word of god says
(33:46):
in the, last days people are going to lose, their
minds doctrines, of demons and a lot of times we
think of doctrines as just religious teaching in. The, church no,
a doctrine military, has doctrine doctors, have doctrines businesses have doctrines.
In protocol so what's that saying is everything that is that,
(34:08):
is biblical everything that, is sane sanity will be attacked
at the. Demonic level we don't know what a marriage,
is anymore YOU and, I Do but i'm Talking about
We've Got supreme court JUSTICES saying i don't Know if i'm.
A woman i don't know if what a. Woman is
HOW do i? Know that we don't know what a.
Gender is we don't know what a little boy or
a little. Girl is so you've been looking in the
(34:30):
news lately at all of, these teachers men and women
that are going to prison for grooming children and then
having sex. With them you've been reading. About it it's in.
THE news a, woman teacher, Men Teacher and i'm screaming at.
THESE articles i wish somebody could hear me and thank
you for giving me a. Platform today. I'm screaming wait.
(34:50):
A minute so you are outraged that these men and
women school teachers are grooming sex objects out of their
kids and then having sex. With them yet those same
teachers could take little children, and, say now don't tell
you mommy, and daddy But, little johnny you could Be
little mary if you, want TO and i can tell,
(35:12):
you HOW and i can, help you and we'll give you,
a name a different name. At school. That's GROOMING when
i was, a top we put people in prison. For
that but see these, same teachers if they do that
with this, gender thing they're hailed. As heroes, but yet,
of course if they wind up having sex with somebody.
(35:33):
Later on now go. To prison. That's terrible. That's terrible i'm,
telling you the world's going out of. His MIND so
i told. THIS host i didn't tell him. All that
I'M sorry i had pummeled you. With IT but i told.
THE host, i said first, of all you got to
understand This is. Satan's WORLD and i was just now
giving some examples. Of that how we know. That's TRUE and,
i said but the second, thing is and this goes,
(35:54):
more politically, humanly speaking, nationally speaking but it's. Biblical too
when you look at these people and, you say what are,
they thinking what are? They saying they're destroying. The, COUNTRY
listen i, TOLD him, i said a lot of these
people they are not, For us they are not. With
us some of them aren't even. Of us some of
(36:17):
them are have come into the, country illegal many of them,
even legally but they passed the initial test to get,
in legally but they've been brainwashed somewhere along. The line
some have, even born been born in this country From.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Where yeah but look at where they're. Coming from and
we're talking about the PEOPLE outside, i know in. The
country that's. Another deal in terms of how they've been
propagandized and they've been groomed.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
AND conditioned i get.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
That, part yeah by a woke culture IS what i
was trying. To, say, so yeah you're.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
Exactly right. I'M sorry I just i didn't mean to cut,
you OFF but i meant to cut.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
You off? Is, that yeah it's, your?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Show brother is that here's. Your world i'm just living.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
In it, Probably no god, bless you and you're. Welcome
Here and, i'm sorry but it's just.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
You go, you know you got me.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Going now and the deal is is that look at
look at what Happened. With somalia what's going On? In
minnesota what did you think you were going? To get
you go to a third. World country, there's lawless they
they they have generations of lawlessness going on and all
kinds of misbehavior and stuff that you know that we
would consider as being just abnormal. And obtuse and then
(37:25):
you bring them here to. The country what did you
think they were going?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
To, do No that somalia is not even a third.
WORLD country i mean they're they're like. Fourth world they
don't even have a really a standing military with protocol
and doctrine And doctor they've got roving groups and gangs
of terrorists is what. They are and that's and and
and it's just be killed or. Be killed it's like
(37:47):
The wild west without deputy sheriffs. Or rangers it's just.
It's crazy and and that's where these people. Came from.
Watch this supposedly to escape the horrors, of that they
move Right into american cities and Turn the american cities
try To. Into, SOMALIA yeah i mean it's. It's berserk
(38:10):
but a lot of this is planned brother by old
global elitists That. Hate, america well and as, you say
This is.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Satan's realm and the THING that i find quite, Interesting.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Here carl is where we.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Are today it, SEEMS that, i Mean obviously god is
up to something pretty dramatic because you have the Intensity
of satanic behavior and demonstration.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Really.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
STEPPING up, i mean you talk about being. ON steroids
i mean, the expression the kind of stuff that every
day people are. Buying into, oh yeah, you know you're
really not. A girl it's what, sex was what gender
was assigned. At birth now it's. Birth assignment. You know
it's unbelievable the kind of conversation and, the language how it's.
(38:59):
Been twisted but. No surprise isaiah said this, would, happen right, He,
said hey there's going to be that time when evil
will be, called good good will be. Called evil and
right now it's, so pronounced but it appears to be
intensifying at the same time that you have people Coming
to god in an intense sort of way.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
As, well, right, Yes yes i'm going to pour out
my spirit in the. Last days people will have eyes
to see and ears. To, hear now the vast, majority
won't And the bible's pretty clear about telling US that
I mean Old And. New testament but there are still
those that need to come into the Family of god
Through the Heart, of God Through, jesus Christ and, God
(39:39):
says i'm going to give people a chance so that
when they stand before me on the day, of judgment
no one will have. Any excuse so so the bottom,
LINE is i got to put this plug for what you.
Just said For the.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
I'll show what before you. Do that let's go.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
To break i'll give you plenty of time on the.
Other side stay. With us we get More From carl gallops.
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Fourteen minutes before the top of The R bill martinez
Here With, carl gallups senior Pastor A Dickory Hammock baptist Church, In,
Milton florida amazon top sixty best selling author and of
course world. Renowned speaker he's all over the, place speaking
and by the Grace, of god we got him here
today to be able to share these things that are
so important, for you especially In this. Christmas, Season, anyway
(44:28):
carl you were going to say before, THE break i
want to.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Turn, it, yeah yeah and thank you for the sweet
introduction and all the kind things. You SAID and i
give praise all praise To The lord jesus to. You shuahamashiyuk,
but NO what i was SAYING is i want to
take what you said AND what i said and remind
people this.
Speaker 14 (44:45):
Is.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Important now the lefties are their heads are. Gonna explode
the people that think we descended from monkeys swinging, in
trees their heads are. Gonna explode but here's. The deal
i'm not here to disparage other. Faith systems But what
i'm going to say, is, historically, biblically literarily spiritually one hundred.
(45:07):
Percent truth there is no other book on the planet
that has, ever existed or, is existing or will exist
Like the Word. Of god let, me explain there's no
other book that has fifty places in It from Deuteronomy
to zachariah prophesying the Return of israel To The middle
(45:28):
east in the. Last days who would have? Done that
who would have dared to write? A book and it
didn't happen for twenty six hundred years after they had gone.
Into captivity who would have even dreamed of? Saying That
the quran says nothing, About That the Teachings of buddhist
says nothing. About That The hindu vedas says nothing. About
that nostradamus didn't say anything About the one of the
(45:50):
most cataclysmic events in global history has happened in our.
Historical lifetime the whole world is Aimed, at Israel, anti Semitism,
Anti Israel the, muslim world Led. By persia iran is
gathering together its forces to continue to. Pummel them and
only the Word of god said it, would happen categorically
(46:14):
said and even name the nations that would come against This.
Returned israel it also named the. Demonic outpouring it, also
named at the, same time concurrent, with that would be
a pouring Out of. God's spirit all of these things
point the doctrines, of demons the Attack. On Christians charlie
(46:35):
kirk he, represented that if, you would in our global information,
system community not that he was mister perfect or a
saint or an angel, from heaven but his, his word
his delivery represented The evangelical. Christian Community so satan took.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Him OUT and i mean he Was more he was
more spiritual. Than POLITICAL and i think people have misunderstood. His, Message, GOD.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yes i think. So too revelation twelve gives, that prophecy
Not About. Charlie kirk, but listen It says, revelation twelve.
Verse twelve, it says woe unto. You world in the
last days you of, the earth in the, last Days
because satan has been, thrown down and now he's filled
with rage because he knows his time. Is short he
knows the Return. Of jesus, you know he was there at.
(47:27):
The crucifixion it terrified him because he thought that was
going to put an end To this. Jesus guy and
then three days later he rises from. The dead satan.
Was there he. Freaked out now he knows he's in his.
Last Days so revelation twelve, says that but he goes
On to satan and The dragon satan was, thrown down filled.
(47:48):
With rage he knows his time, is short then it
says he and he went off then to make war
against those who hold to the Testimony Of. Jesus christ
it's right there In the Book. Of relation that book
is two thousand, YEARS old, I, mean bill think. About
it two thousand, years old and it has come alive in.
(48:09):
Our lifetime and the whole world watched an assassination of
man's basically his head. Blown off they tried to do
It To donald trump while he. Was talking they actually
hit him in, the head but he just barely turned
and it grazed us they wanted us to. See it
satan wants us to watch it the, whole world to,
be terrified to be to be, blown away to be paralyzed.
(48:33):
By it this is the world we're. Living in Only
the Word of god prophesied all. Of this Only the Word,
of god. Nothing Else so i'm saying people need to
turn To the Word, of god which Points To, Jesus,
Christ god goth Of, the resurrection the giving Of The,
holy spirit the coming again Of. The lord they need
to turn. To that, you know, people, say well you're,
(48:53):
Preaching now, WELL yeah i mean it's biblical truth and it's.
Historical truth well you're.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
Doing it because first, Of all god, Loves them he, loves,
us okay and we want to do what.
Speaker 3 (49:10):
Makes the. Father proud.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah right and that's the THING that i keep, Reminding,
people carl is that do you realize How much god?
Speaker 5 (49:18):
Loves?
Speaker 13 (49:18):
You?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yes yes And the Word of god is a love
Letter from heaven to those that have a heart that's
open and in the old cliche and you just about
said it a, minute AGO but i use it all.
The time, people, say well we can't stand you telling,
us this and you're just preaching to us you think
you're going to scare us. Into heaven, all THAT and
i tell people all, the, time HEY if i can
scare you, INTO heaven i would do it because it's
(49:42):
your decision. Is eternal but the old cliche. IS this
i feel like YOU. And I the bible says we're
supposed to be ambassadors for. The kingdom we speak As
though god himself were speaking. Through Us the bible, says that,
all right YOU and i are like two ambassadors walking down,
the sidewalk and we look and this house is, on
(50:05):
fire and it's we can see it the back, of
it smoke. AND flames, i actually as a police officer
that happened. TO me i was in a housing PROJECT
and i saw it. Burning down the people. WERE asleep
i went door, TO door i got on. THE radio
i called all the, my BACKUP and i went and
dragged people out of, their HOMES thinking i might. GET
shot i kicked open, some doors thinking that somebody might,
(50:26):
shoot me but they were all getting ready to. BURN
alive i got a big Accommodation to valor for, all
that and was. Written up so this is all. Public
information i'm not making. This UP but i feel like
we're like that and we're screaming your house is, burning
down your house is burning and, get out and, they,
go oh. Go away you're just trying to scare me.
INTO something i can't, stand you you bunch of bunch.
(50:47):
Of idiots and that's how the world is. Right now it's, burning,
down brother it's, burning down and we're trying to tell
people how to be saved from being. Eternally.
Speaker 4 (50:57):
Lost, exactly well the thing is the number one selling,
book Still, The. Bible carl it is, recent months there's
been an increase of forty percent in sales Of, the
bible so people are turning. To IT and i, would say,
like you as an ambassador and to other people of
faith who have ears to hear and eyes, to see
(51:19):
is that it really it behooves us as ambassadors to
be in alignment With what god is doing so that
we can help those that are searching, and seeking so
that when they come, to church, you know we don't
get upset with them because they took our, parking space
so they're sitting in our.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Special.
Speaker 4 (51:36):
PLACE apew i had to laugh at myself the other
DAY because i found MYSELF and i bring that up
because it's a. Self indictment somebody, dared sit, you know
put THEMSELVES where i. Normally SIT and i had to tell.
MY wife, i go oh, My God. I'm sheldon you
have The big.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Bang theory he had.
Speaker 4 (51:56):
His SPECIALTY and, i said oh, MY god i Mean
The holy.
Speaker 3 (52:00):
SPIRIT accent I. AM sheldon i CANNOT believe i.
Speaker 1 (52:03):
Did, THAT yeah. I, know Listen the Book of james talks.
About that it talks. About that, he says. It's this,
you know a poor man comes into. Your congregation it's
not really about rich. And poor but, he says and, you,
say here you sit on the floor at. My feet
you can't have. My Seat the Book of james, Says
That and, james says.
Speaker 8 (52:19):
Stop that.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
Stop that this is the Family of. God, people see
we're not A collect see those of us that are
born again and we go to church, a lot and
we're growing In. The lord sometimes we get, to, thinking
yeah this is a collection of perfect. People, here no,
we all we all came out of a. Following. WORLD man,
I mean i tell my congregation all, the time do
you know THIS year i am finishing my thirty ninth
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year as, their Pastor and i'm getting ready to go into,
forty YEARS and i, REMIND them, i SAID when i,
CAME here i was. A KID basically i was. Thirty
one i'd been a COP since i. WAS eighteen I
was florida's first eighteen year old law, enforcement officer AND
so i had a background, behind me a. Good ONE
but i came there at like thirty one years. Of
age and SO now i tell them all, THE time,
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i say, YOU know, i said we've been together all,
this time and you've seen you have seen a lot.
Of things but the bottom, line is all, this time
we've been able to fix a lot of stupid problems that.
CHURCHES have i told them a long, TIME ago, i,
said LOOK if i, find Out and i'm not, Being
ugly i'm just, Telling you i'm the. Pastor HERE if
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i find out you've got, a seat but a guest
comes in and they're looking and, you're saying, excuse me
you can't, DO that, I said i WILL tell i,
will STOP and i, will say mister, and, missus guest you.
Sit here you guys hit. The door i'm, telling YOU
and i don't care if you're a deacon or an.
ASSOCIATE pastor i mean We are we're going to be a.
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Real church we're not going to be a bunch of
selfish people thinking that we. HAVE arrived i, tell them,
you know you. Raise me you've watched me grow in.
Forty years i've grown In, the lord, you know and
So and i'm still Growing and i'm not quite perfect yet.
Speaker 8 (53:59):
You are look.
Speaker 4 (54:03):
At it we got about a minute a, half left
and we need a lot. More TIME but i want
you to Give a christmas, message here an, abbreviated one,
you know because this is this is my favorite time
of the year for all.
Speaker 8 (54:16):
The, Me, Too.
Speaker 1 (54:18):
Thanksgiving, christmas yeah. Uh so so the bottom line, is
this and we've only got. A Minute so i'm gonna
do very brief From the Garden, of Eden when God,
told satan from the womb of a woman is coming
a male child that will crush, your kingdom all the
Way through galatians four. To four right in The middle
paul wrote Half The. New testament in the middle, of it,
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he says at just the, Right time god sent forth,
his son born of, a woman to deliver us from.
Our sin and all the way in between three hundred
prophecies of the Coming, of messiah how where he would,
be born how he would live, the miracles he would do,
the cross he would go to the resurrection that. Would
occur all of that is wrapped up in what we
would Call the. Christmas story christmas is A the latin
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word Meaning the Mass. Of christ in, other words the
celebration of the Coming. Of christ this whole time, of
year right now until the End of december and End,
of january it's All about god keeping his promise and
getting ready To bring messiah so that we could have
the hope that we have right now that we've, expressed
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today and we want everybody just watching to have that.
Same hope if you haven't Turned To, jesus christ. Please
do this is. Serious stuff.
Speaker 4 (55:29):
It's, eternal yeah because you know it all is preceded
With the. Advent, season yeah four weeks of, you, know, hope,
love peace joy and all. In preparation, you know we're Going,
to GOD will, i mean, you know It's it's. God's
time if he decides to, tarry here we'll Have a.
Christmas celebration, if not then we'll have another Celebration because
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jesus will be back and he's coming, right.
Speaker 1 (55:55):
Right, That's right and. Never doubt satan hates everything we're.
Talking about and he hates this time, of year so
just get ready for. That too we're living in a
world that's prophetically burning down right before.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Our eyes don't you love that he?
Speaker 3 (56:09):
Hates?
Speaker 1 (56:10):
It, oh, YEAH yeah i mean you know because because
Of The holy spirit in me and because of being,
BORN again, I mean i have eyes, to SEE so
i know it doesn't. Shock Me and, i'm, saying okay,
big boy your day's coming is.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
Coming, soon well and as, you Said and God's at
god's perfect and a. Pointed.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Time yeah and that's my prayer is that you not
miss you do not.
Speaker 4 (56:34):
Miss your, appointed, time right and that and that you
you join us in eternity With our Lord, and.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Savior.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
Right, car amen thank you for the appointed time you
gave me to be on the air with. YOU today
i really. Appreciate this you're you're a dear friend and a. Dear.
Brother bill we've been together a long time. Doing.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
This, Amen amen you've. Blessed Me, carl gallups thank you
so much for. Being On It's, Merry Christmas Happy new
year to you and yours and of course the family
There At Hickory Hammock.
Speaker 3 (57:04):
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And a little Quick blessing shiloma lekam Bay yshum Yeshua.
Hamashiak adelnai may the Peace of god now surround you
in this time in the Name Of, jesus Christ. OUR
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Getting america back.
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On Track Bill, Martinez, live hey. Good morning six minutes
after the top of, The Hour bill. Martinez here great
to have you. With us We've Got peter lamas. Joining
us he's, an Attorney a, republican strategist first generation immigrant From,
socialists albania so he's, been there BOUGHT the, t shirt
and he knows what socialism and communism is.
Speaker 3 (58:49):
All, about peter welcome.
Speaker 4 (58:51):
The show good to have you.
Speaker 5 (58:52):
With us thank you very much for. Having me so
good to. See, it well it's so important to.
Speaker 4 (58:56):
Hear your story because you've experienced this. First hand and
our country right now is slipping more and more. Into
socialism and what comes out is The Recalled president trump
in one Of the state Of the unions Saying that
america would never become a. Socialist country little did. We
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know a couple of years after, that statement we've Got
A new york mayor who is a sold.
Speaker 3 (59:23):
Out, socialist.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
Well not only we Have A new york mayor who
just got elected as, a socialist but we have elected
officials In The United states House of representatives and Even
a senate that they're, openly socialist Whether it's Omar or
Shalid Or. BERNIE sanders, i mean we have people that
were elected and they got sworn in to Uphold the
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constitution and Defend, the constitution and Protect the constitution and
Defend The. United states yet their allegiance is not exactly
that doesn't square with the cont institutional requirements of. Those
offices what we have done in, this country for, whatever
reasons we have failed to make a clear demarcation or
clear distinction between the greatness, of capitalism between the greatness
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constitutionalism and the founding documents of, this country and the
failed liberal policies that come, from socialism socialism. And communism
there is no difference between. The two socialism is just
a stepping stone, to communism which is command and control over.
The population they do not, Recognize liberty they do not,
Recognize freedom they do not recognize family. Traditional values they
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believe that government is the solution to the problems that.
Humanity faces unbeknownst, to them or maybe, they know but
they deny that. They know but unbeknownst to people who
follow that ideology is the fact that government under those
circumstances called socialism, and communism it is the problem of
everything that. Humanity faces if you go back To The
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soviet union that what used, to be and always down
the line To today's Cuba and China And, north venezuela
millions and millions of people have, been, arrested beaten tortured
and killed because they disagree with. That ideology my family
was subjected. To that my father, was arrested beaten and
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tortured because he failed to notify the government that my
BROTHERS and i wanted To escape albania and search for freedom.
And Opportunity and i'll tell you. ONE thing i always
tell people that my father sacrificed his life so my
BROTHERS and i would live. In Freedom, THANK god i
don't have to do that for. My kids but people
should recognize the fact that there are people out there
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who are willing to die to make sure that their
kids will live in freedom. And Opportunity and americans have
proven that times. And again and we should not allow
this evil ideology called socialism or communism to spread In the.
Western civilization it is an. Evil ideology you cannot describe.
Speaker 20 (01:01:58):
It.
Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Otherwise, exactly well when you look back in the, twentieth
century one hundred, years, socialism communism what did they affect
over one hundred? Million?
Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
DEATHS right i mean that.
Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Is incredible and the deal is even when you go
back and you go back in history, and say tell
me where communism or. Socialism worked nowhere in.
Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
The world nowhere in. The world THEN when i hear
Younger generation american born citizens claiming that some, of them
not all, of them we should be honest. About it
but some of them claim that we can do better
if you. Allow us this ideology. Can work if we,
allow us we can implement. It better there is no
way of implementing socialism without. Brutal force and should be
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mindful of the fact that when socialists come, to power
they come in with a bunch of promises that we're
going to. Apply, equality okay it sounds good on the piece,
of paper but human beings were not made to. Be
equal we got. Created us and the way that each
and every one of us has been endowed with certain
talents that someone else may not have them and give
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us the freedom to make decisions on our own to, pursue,
life liberty and pursuit, of happiness which we have that
on the founded documents of. This country no other country
in the world has this kind of documents such, as
Ours the Declaration, of Independence that god has endowed us
with these rights exactly pursue. Them freely the government shouldn't
dictate us how we're going to. Pursue them once the
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socialists come, to power they will start persecuting and prosecuting
anyone who disagrees. With them i've. Seen that millions of
people have. Seen that and when we hear this ideology
coming To The united states And the western civilization is
being threatened, by it Including The, United states we're gonna
have to stand up. To it we're gonna have to
stand up to it and make sure that we identified
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located and obliterated once and.
Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
For all it is a cancer if we allow it
to spread in. Our, country, well historically freedom has never.
Been free it is always required, A revolution it's. Required
courage and this might be the crossroads that we're at.
Speaker 13 (01:04:07):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:04:07):
Now peter is this, next generation, you know joined with
us the older generation to come alongside and defend, these,
values because like you mentioned the. INALIENABLE rights, i mean here's.
The exchange you have inalienable rights given to You, by, god,
life liberty and the pursuit. Of happiness that those three
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things are in conflict. With communism so why would you,
surrender life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that, are
inalienable That are god? Given rights and you're going to
surrender that to some central committee that says they, know,
better right or they think they, know better they haven't.
Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Tried it american, born citizens the ones who are supporting
this ideology and voting for, this ideology haveven lived in the.
COMMUNIST country i joke about it SOMETIMES and i say
that it should be Mandatory for american citizens to live
in these countries to see what socialism can do to a,
human being can do to, a country can do. To
civilization and we.
Speaker 17 (01:05:05):
Have to go.
Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
That far Look, at cuba we don't have to go.
That far you look at what used to Be The,
Soviet union Look, at china Look At. North korea we
don't see people Fleeing the west into. These countries we
see people trying to flee. Those countries and move To.
The west what, bugs me or, bothers me or perturbs
me the most is that we get people come Into
The united states from, these countries and the moment They become,
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american citizens somehow they embrace the same ideology that drove
them out of. Their countries they pledge allegiance directly or
indirectly to that flag that they left behind that drove
them out of. Those COUNTRIES and i think we have
to do a better job to make sure that we
educate the, younger population especially the. Younger population we have
even older people who believe in. That ideology but we
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have to do a better job to vet people who
Come To united states who help. Our values when you look,
at immigration, for example in the eighteenth and, nineteenth century
late eighteenth and early, nineteenth century we brought people To The.
United states we pretty much had the same Values that,
Americans Had judeo, christian values believed in the same way.
Of life they, wanted freedom they. Wanted liberty but then
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we change this when you look At the obama administration
lowered the standards always Coming To, united states That the
biden administration did away with the. Standards completely we have
no idea who's coming To The united states and this
is a threat that we're having from within because we're
important third country people and we're going to become a.
Third country we're Not care if we're not careful, of, this.
Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Well you can't have, you know enclaves of, you know.
Separate countries as, you say look what's Happening, in minnesota
you know With the. SOMALIA community, i mean look at
their pledge of allegiance Is. TO somalia, i mean and
you even have elected officials saying as.
Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
Much right that we have at least three of them
right now or four of them In The United states
House of representatives that they say that their allegiance actually
still remained so the country that they. Left BEHIND and
i heard one of them which really sort of shocked,
me that oh, if something if things don't work out here,
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FOR me i can always go back to. My country,
i'm thinking what is? Your country which one is? Your
country you Get The united states to Embrace the american way,
of life and you are given the opportunity to become
a member Of the House of Representatives, IN, washington dc
which is an exclusive right if, you will or exclusive
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hold allegiance to a country that drove.
Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
You out and this is why this isn't doesn't. Make
sense we got to go To. Quick break we've got
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We're back with your nineteen minutes hacked on the top
of the. Hour Right now bill Martinez Here with peter
Lamosh And, attorney republican strategists first Generation Immigrant. From, socialists albania, Yeah,
you know peter as, we were saying Even My friend
trevor lauden has been saying for years that we're we're
talking over one Hundred Card carrying Democratic socialists in congress
and all this is, having an influence and this is
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these are the people that are creating these policies that
are destroying capitalism or.
Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Certainly getting in the. Way of it and look at
the fruit. OF these, policies i mean it's, just You know.
Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
STRIVING america, crazy i mean, we're you know we're confused, over,
our gender gender what bathroom? You can, use you know
this is all brought to you by an entity that
wants to do everything they Can to, upend western.
Speaker 5 (01:13:37):
CIVILIZATION right yeah i mean it's it's interesting because you
hear the liberals telling us that they can resolve so
these complicated issues that, humanity Is facing or, america is
facing yet they cannot identify what is a man. Or
a woman we had a lady who, was you know
a Pointed At The United states supreme court who couldn't
define a woman and she was. A female, herself i
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mean just think about the positions that these people are
Holding In the, united states Government Including The United, states
supreme court that they, are you know implementing policy and
laws that are in conflict with what. We stand for
americans who. Are very simple we just want to be
left alone. From the government we want to have. Our
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traditional values we want to raise our kids the way
we want to. Raise our kids we want to have,
a good job, living good neighborhoods and these are things
that we're not. Asking for much we're just asking the
government not to impose certain values that are in contradiction
with what. WE believe in i don't want my kids
to be taught you know that they. Are fifteen genders.
They're not fifteeners we have two of them and three
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of them since the biblical times and. Nothing has changed
and these ARE things that I think the republicans, should
be fearless should, have the, backbone the character and the
forty two to, fight this ideology because the sooner, we
fight it the sooner, we defeat it the better it
Is For the United states of america and better it Is.
For The west thank god That We have donald, trump
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right now, who IS unfiltered and. I love them he
has no fear to call, certain cultures garbage re refer
to them. What they are if these people who are
Coming To the united states from third world countries couldn't
do well, in their countries couldn't, save their countries but
they come here and try to impose their. Values upon
us this is something That. Is not american when MY
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brothers and I Came, to united states we were told
pretty much by, my own parents, my own father you
Go To the united states To become an american if you,
can make it you don't go over There to Turn.
Americans into albanians If, you want albanianism. You stay here But,
you know americanism you. Go over there and we have
to do a better job vetting people who aren't Coming To.
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THE united, STATES i mean i, mentioned this before and
when We had, the Biden administrator, the obama administration we
lowered the standards of People Coming. To united States then
the biden, administration came in and we have no idea
who's Coming To. The united states people that are pledging
allegiance to the country that. They left behind if they
love their country so much and they love their, flag
(01:16:07):
so much, by all means you're free to leave and
go back to where. You came from we have no.
Problems with that but you want, to live here You
join the american, way of life You Respect those, judeo
christian values you respect, our traditional values you respect the
founding documents, of this country and become part, of this
country but. Legally not, belye you, Know.
Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
It's interesting peter for many years the country was debating
separation of, church and state and it's interesting how the
left has turned it on its head because what they've
done is they've kind of come up with a secular
type of religion and they want to impose that secular
type of religion. On the state so why did we
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have the argument about separation of church and state to
begin with when that's what they, want, To impose right
because this is an ideology that they're trying to impose
upon us, to give, us you know to, change our,
freedoms our liberties these inalienable rights given To, us by
god surrender those and pledge allegiance to the state because supposedly,
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they know better and there's, been you know like there's
been a demonstration. THAT they, have i mean all you
got to do is go back a couple of years
and remember HOW, they, mishandled covid right and you want
them to handle your affairs in the same way that THEY.
Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Did, during covid.
Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Well they're getting away with this and this is. What
they do when you look at the educational public system
that we, have right now we're not teaching our kids
with the founding documents. Of this country we're not teaching
Them with The, declaration of independence and it clearly states
we are Endowed. BY the, creator i mean what is
the separation of church of. State and state If the
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founding document, of this country, the first one it stays
that we are Endowed. By the creator there Is. The
word creator there is no separation here what we are
miiest understanding here that we're Not imposing our christian. Value
on anyone if people, don't want to don't want to
pray the WAY you and i are and allis, Pray
perfectly fine but we have problems when the government says
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that you shouldn't, pray at all you should believe in.
This founding document you shouldn't Believe in. Your biblical values
it's disturbing that we have allowed this to. Go SO
far and I think That republicans and conservatives. Should be
FEARLESS last night i went to an event and was.
AN interesting event i went to support the guy who's
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Running For The, united states Congress. First generation american. He's
an attorney and, when he spoke you Referred, to the
bible and he said that the praise being not afraid
is Repeated in the bible three one hundred and, sixty
five times and he called upon his supporters be not afraid,
to stand up be not a prey to, defend your
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values be not afraid to, defend, your family. Values your
tradition you're, the Founding, documents The. CONSTITUTION the, declaration i mean,
he WAS fearless and i HAVE hoped when i see
this younger generation, being more conservative believe. It or not
see some of, them very, conservative very, biblical very traditionalist
and They understand the constitution and the founding documents of
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this country as the foundation of what, we stand for
and they're, fighting for it and it gives me hope.
FOR this country i don't think that every left wing
out there is predominant in our culture, at this point
but we have to prevent it From Spreading From, New,
York city california detroit in other places to the other parts.
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Of the country we've got to take over.
Speaker 8 (01:19:35):
Our.
Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
EDUCATIONAL system peter i mean when you look at you
know the professors that are in these colleges and that
where do, They come from what's?
Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
What's? Their ideology right.
Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
There are left wingers about ninety. Percent of them very
few of. Them are conservative but the most interesting THING
is that i used to work for an Educational System In.
NEW york city i did background investigation for the teachers and.
You name It during, the juliani administration none of their
kids were. Attending public education ALL of these, i tell
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you what is? THAT telling you i asked that question.
DURING a, Meeting i said i'm part. Of the system
you're part. Of the system why would you if this system?
Is so great how come your kids are not? Attending
public education they were going. To private institutions they made
sure that their kids were educated, in private schools and
then they would attend after school programs which, were religiously
(01:20:26):
oriented and so they made sure that their kids would
remain dominant to our kids if they went to, this
you know, failed school. Policy educational system there was a
program once introduced that it said money, follows the child
meaning that if you want to take your child from
a public school that was failed to a public school that,
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was not failing. It was successful the biggest obstacle that
we had at that time and we continue to have
in The state of connecticut is, the teacher's union because
they know that if you take your kids to, an
unfailing school their school system is, going to fail and
therefore they wouldn't have control over the educational thing. Of
our kids so there is a reason that they keep
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on sort of providing or, raising our kids or, forming
our kids or shaping them into this, way of thinking
and then they go out there in real life and
express those ideas and try to. Promote those ideas but
this is, very well organized very well coordinated, by the
left and this Is what the Conservatives and the republicans
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are going to have to do a better job to
make sure that we do not allow them to get
away with destroying the educational system.
Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
Of our kids and, in doing that they're destroying. THE very,
child i mean This Is what charlie, Kirk. DIED for,
peter i mean he was there trying to. Elevate the
consciousness and you watch the expression of these kids on
these college campuses when he spoke. Truth to them you
could see the light. Bulbs Turning on and i'm sure
there were some challenges in the classroom with some of
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these professors because these Kids, WERE going god I thought maybe. I.
Speaker 5 (01:22:00):
Was crazy, right my son who Graduated From the catholic
UNIVERSITY In, d C. Washington d c he made an observation.
Which shocked, Me he Said charlie kirk kirk was the
biggest recruiter. Into the church he said he brought so
Many people to jesus that Not even the pope could do.
What he did, the second thing He Said that charlie
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kirk was bringing so many young People Into the republican
party That Not even donald trump. Could do that and
he said they saw him, As a threat, they identified
him and. THEY assassinated him i firmly believed that that
was the biggest Threat that the left was seeing Or Observing,
from charlie kirk and therefore this crazy guy decided. To assassinate,
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Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
Couldn't, take trump out But They, got charlie kirk no.
Speaker 6 (01:22:45):
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only horace cooper the former, constitutional law professor recognized legal.
Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Commentator and author. He's here too We'll.
Speaker 4 (01:26:48):
Talk about scotus we'll also talk about the latest that's Happening.
Off Of, Venezuela horace, Cooper Welcome Always, Happy New, Year
Merry Christmas, Happy New.
Speaker 8 (01:26:59):
Year merry christmas i'm really really excited for all the
Great things that god has In store for america and
for me.
Speaker 4 (01:27:06):
And, my family, well you know this IS the thing i.
KEEP telling, people i mean it's kind of amazing what's
going on right now if you have, Ice to see god.
IS really moving i mean there's things that are happening
here in our country, that the, media mainstream media which
tells you where the mainstream. Media is at and of,
COURSE the, left i mean. THEY'RE so GODLESS i mean
i feel FOR them and i pray for them, because
(01:27:29):
you know they're a danger to themselves and their families
by decidedly making a decision to turn Their.
Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
Backs.
Speaker 8 (01:27:38):
On, god, right well absolutely this is part Of What the,
old testament, says you Know, in second chronicles my people
who are called, by, my Name right the lord says
that if we repent and we acknowledge him that he
(01:28:00):
turned from, eriic wicked ways that he will, hear our
prayers and he will hear. Hill our land there are
the earliest stages of a Revival, happening in america and it's.
Been sorely, needed You, know in america we've had a
(01:28:21):
couple of. Really big revivals we had one Right After.
The civil war we had another One Right After. World
War two billy graham was a big. Part of it
we thought we were going. To start, ONE you know
i was two or, three years old But we thought
america thought it would start one with what Was Called
(01:28:41):
the jesus movement. In the seventies but we are really
starting to see record numbers of our young people going to.
Church accepting salvation and my prayer is that that just,
expands and expands and what pc is a Outcome. That
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pleases god and when, he is pleased there will be blessings,
for our society even for those Who don't.
Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
Honor him, exactly you know, the thing is again we're
Reminded how much.
Speaker 3 (01:29:19):
GOD loves, us i mean here It is.
Speaker 4 (01:29:20):
The christmas season, we're an advent the Greatest gift that
god gave us. And his son, but you Know You
recount second, chronicle seven fourteen which again is A demonstration
of god's love for us because he knew that we
were going to mess up and he inspired The leadership
of israel to make that proclamation that when, you screw
(01:29:42):
Up you know god. Will forgive you and you got
to know that, first Of all that god recognizes you. As,
His people right, you're not aliens, you're not illegal you.
Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
Are his people and he.
Speaker 4 (01:29:56):
Says his people and so you're sanctified in out a
side because he calls. You by, name you know if
my people who are called by my name and he
calls us. BY your, name i mean this is how much,
This again manifestation this, is CLEAR evidence if i can
put it, in, legal Terms horse that god loves us
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because he knows that we're going, to mess up and
he gave. Us a, remedy he, said look at if
you will acknowledge that you have gotten outside and over
your skis and you've. Been, a knucklehead Hey look at
i'm the father. WHO loves you i will forgive. You
your sins, i'll, restore you know the good times. Back
to you i will.
Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Heal your land all.
Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Will be forgiven and you were going to be right with?
Speaker 15 (01:30:37):
Me?
Speaker 8 (01:30:38):
Once, AGAIN right yes i want to amplify, by the
way as we say, in my church. THIS will preach
i Want to amplify it isn't just. Us, as individuals
yes we as individuals, need to repent but the reward is,
to our land. To our nation If we as christians
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do what, we should do and if enough of us
do what, we should do our whole. Country will prosper,
THIS country's existence i believe came about as one of
the Greatest gifts that god has Placed. On planet earth, and,
you say oh what are? You talking about.
Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
We have slavery.
Speaker 8 (01:31:29):
America today is the country that provides more support for
charity than any other country. On the, planet in fact
our charitable giving exceeds that of The, government of japan
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of The, government of china of The, government of england
of the GOVERNMENTS.
Speaker 13 (01:31:56):
Of the.
Speaker 8 (01:31:56):
Eu all combined exactly who sets the record, For faith Giving.
It is americans and if this planet is going to
be able to have it said, that every woman man
and child hears about the greatest gift, of all salvation
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it's gonna be because of what we do with our
exactly excited about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32:27):
One hundred percent and this, Is the thing this is
why the people who Are called, by God's name because.
God Is Moving as charles, Finney, would say horace that
revival happens when. It's most needed and when you look
at our, country right, now the chaos the spiritual chaos.
THAT it's, in i mean we're so confused that we
(01:32:48):
have what ninety, different gender, assignments you know and now
they're saying that your gender is.
Speaker 3 (01:32:55):
Assigned at, BIRTH it's, just i.
Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
Mean it's so absurd where we are right now, as
the country and we can't seem to solve the problems.
At this level those problems are solved. In the heavenlyes
that's why we have, to elevate ourselves get out of
the morass of this confusion and this demonic controlled zip
(01:33:18):
codes and land in which we live, in right Now
temporarily thank god and Reach out to, God, and say
god we, need your help and, confess and say look at.
We deserve this we deserve where we are right now
because we turned our. Back on You and the bible's
real clear that once you turn Your, back on god
you really, render yourself.
Speaker 8 (01:33:37):
Stupid, don't, you well, yes in fact he even says
that he curses us by making it harder for us
to see our. Way Towards him remember Pharaoh in The,
book of exodus in the Story he. Hardened Pharaoh's heart The,
(01:33:57):
book of, acts Excuse me The book of rome says
the same. Thing can happen And that's why i'm so excited,
about the revival because what it means Is That the
holy spirit is allowing people to have, ministered to them
let them hear of the, need to repent to Turn,
(01:34:19):
and hear god and then able to Be. Blessed. By.
Speaker 4 (01:34:24):
God exactly yeah and and my my cautionary tale is
to those who are maybe a little bit ahead of
the curve right now and they are more In, alignment
with god be prepared for these. People coming in don't
get upset because they took your parking spot or your
favorite spot, in the, fugue, you.
Speaker 3 (01:34:40):
Know, uh you know be prepared because you never know
what it's.
Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Going to. Take You know the bible says the, word aptly,
Spoken YOU know horace i found sometimes it's just a
smile aptly given to, a fellow, journer you know journeyer
who is, going, through this, uh, you know this this
this life that.
Speaker 8 (01:34:59):
We're, going through, yes s, yes you know. There's simple things,
they're big things but. They're simple THINGS like recently i
was in an uber vehicle and the gentleman was talking
about some of the challenges that. He was facing when,
OUR trip ended i asked if he would. Agree to
(01:35:19):
pray he willingly did so and thanked me afterwards because
he said he had been. Wanting to hear so we
can all. Play a role but let's talk a little
Bit About the, supreme court too because we got.
Speaker 4 (01:35:36):
About a minute we got about a minute left before we,
go to break so we'll kind of wrap this up
just only.
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Speaker 4 (01:35:41):
A sidebar, HORSE you know i love it when people
want to, pray for me, but. Me personally don't don't.
GIVE me fruitcake i. Don't understand fruitcake it's a. Mystery
to me and it's kind.
Speaker 8 (01:35:53):
Of like.
Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
Liver you know, some, People, say well bill you've never
really had my fruitcake or. REALLY good fruitcake i don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
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Speaker 8 (01:36:00):
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On yeah exactly we, love our. Parents all right we
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With your horace cooper at the nationally recognized legal commentator.
Continues with, Us, right now horace you wanted to Let's.
TALK about scotis i mean A lot of i mean
things are, bubbling up, here and you as a, Recognized
legal commentator i'm sure, are like me expecting some positive
news to come Out Of. The, supreme court.
Speaker 8 (01:41:24):
Well let's talk about. Where We are president trump's administration
is about. Ninety THREE percent when i, was in school
that was considered. An a grade ninety three percent success
Rate Before The United. States Supreme, court barack obama the so,
(01:41:46):
called constitutional scholar was about forty five Percent Before, the
supreme court and he set the dubious record of having
the most unanimous rulings against him of any president in the. Last,
fifty years, well Guess what mister biden's record was Worse
(01:42:09):
Than even barack, obama, a wrong wrong wrong on. So,
many issues now he didn't get as many unanimous rulings
Against Him Because Supreme, court justice jackson who was prepared
apparently to take any crazy argument and rule in, favor
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of it so you couldn't Get a unanimous but, he
kept losing and he lost at a rate where his
victories were about thirty two or thirty three percent, of
the time if you were betting it was a good,
idea to say let's find Out where the biden administration
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IS and assume i don't even know anything, about The
law but i'm going.
Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
To go the other, Way, exactly exactly WELL that, was
i guess pretty much the theme of the old Administration
And the democratic party. During.
Speaker 8 (01:43:02):
That, era, right well yeah it was taking the law
to places where. It absolutely shouldn't it Was saying to christian,
schools and organizations you are going to be forced to
hire people who reject. Your church's teachings, our founders intended
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they absolutely intended with the Drafting Of the first amendment
to give amount of space so that people of faith
could operate and. Live their, lives you know earlier IN
the segment i talked about how much charity there has
been a worldwide that. Is faith based part of that Comes,
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because our, charter Our constitution Our bill of rights specifically respects.
People of Faith both mister Obama and mister biden regularly
target people of faith to force them to undertake views
and beliefs that. They personally rejected if you have an
(01:44:11):
employee and that EMPLOYEE tells you i. SHARE your beliefs
i will. Honor your beliefs and then you find out,
they're having affairs they're, engaging in slander they're undertaking a whole.
Host Of Behaviors the supreme court has consistently said in a,
(01:44:31):
case like that the organization can in fact terminate you for.
Failing to repent so this has Really Been The Roberts,
the roberts court which many people are a, bit critical
of has been A Bulwark of. First, amendment protections, well.
Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
You know it makes.
Speaker 4 (01:44:56):
You WONDER horace and. I don't, know i mean maybe
it's unfair to, ask to question but it's one. That
begs asking And That is barack obama presented himself as A,
AS a, Christian I Mean, jeremiah wright christian and and
Here You got joe biden As. A practicing catholic, and
(01:45:18):
you know they were just they added to the confusion
and really put us on this trajectory Where so many
americans who bought, into their, personalities you know are kind
of lost in the. Wilderness RIGHT now if i can
put it, IN those terms.
Speaker 8 (01:45:35):
A lot of what had been Presented to the american
people is. Quickly falling apart People Forget, that barack obama when,
he originally ran said on a really fundamental issue of
the day that he supported marriage between a man and
a woman and didn't. Support redefining it and yet his
(01:45:57):
administration pushed in fort Gay marriage on america in a
way that has, had a very. Very consequential effect and,
the truth is this is what, he'd always believed but
he had wanted us to. Believe something different but let's
take that. Off the table What About The. Affordable care
(01:46:20):
act if you, like your doctor you can. Keep your
doctor if you like, your insurance policy you can keep.
Your insurance policy it turns out that. Was a, lie
in fact it was Listed By the associated press as
a Lie of the year because Of such consequential Look
(01:46:43):
At what president biden did with the ending of Our.
Presence in afghanistan it was an unmitigated nightmare that we
today as a country are. Still suffering from and yet,
when he campaigned he said he would be a champion.
(01:47:05):
Of foreign policy it would Be great for america to
have someone with his leadership and his Experience On The Senate.
Foreign relations committee that turned out to. Be a nightmare
my point in all that is to say what we
see when these people run and what they do after
(01:47:25):
they get in office are completely. And totally different our
president today has been Working With Our united states constitution
and pursuing the very principles that, our founders intended rather
than the deviations that. His predecessors sought.
Speaker 4 (01:47:48):
And when, you violate, these you know the wisdom, of
the Constitution you put. Americans in Danger You mentioned afghan
afghanistan and the Pulling. Out of, afghanistan of course many
refugees came here, into the country and We had one
afghan refugee travel across the country And Kill a national
(01:48:11):
guards woman and severely Injure another who we're getting some
positive news, that he's, recovering You, Know thank god but
sadly we lost, a Quality Individual a national guards woman.
Because of this and this is the cost of violating
our constitution and compromising the number one priority of the,
(01:48:36):
chief executive officer the commander in chief. Of our country
when he, violates our Constitution he puts. America at.
Speaker 8 (01:48:43):
Risk THAT'S right so i said at the time that we,
as a nation and that was Speaking, directly to congress
need to change the law And Challenge the supreme court
ruling back in the late nineteen seventies and again in the,
(01:49:04):
middle two thousands that if a, person doesn't die you
can't have the death. Penalty for them. Here's my argument,
first of all the founders never. Agree to that but.
Here's my, argument you do, as a, killer a shooter
attacker everything you possibly can, to murder someone and science
(01:49:30):
and skilled physicians and even the strong prayer of others
prevent that. Person from dying you shouldn't escape the punishment
for doing what. You have done our founders said any
time you, commit a, felony any felony you were eligible for. The,
(01:49:51):
death Penalty now the kennedy ruling that came out in
two thousand and five suggested that losing couldn't punish a
man for brutally? Raping three children is it or?
Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Is it six what's the number rad would?
Speaker 8 (01:50:13):
Have been allowed and they said, the, ruling was well.
No one died this child's innocence completely each one of those.
Children completely destroyed there ought to. Be a penalty if
you go Up to a national guardsman and you shoot him,
in the head even, if they live you. Ought TO
(01:50:37):
pay and i asked That that's what. Congress should do
pass a new law allowing for these kinds of crimes
to be, death penalty eligible, and if Necessary Challenged the
supreme court TO overturn what i believe was. An erroneous
decision if.
Speaker 4 (01:50:57):
We're going to do something about, dissuading, of lawbreakers well,
first of all there needs to be, consequences, right now,
right you know we've got a, breakdown in consequences and
this is why this. Crime is going and, then thank
God You've got donald trump coming in, and you know
trying to restore. LAW in, order i mean that is
Foundational To. The democratic Republic yet the democrats Are Saying
(01:51:20):
that donald trump is a threat for democracy when everything
he's doing is to.
Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
Fortify, Democratic, rule right.
Speaker 1 (01:51:27):
Well.
Speaker 8 (01:51:27):
That's exactly, right you know in, THE president campaign i
heard him say a couple times if, you take fentanyl
or if you take, another deadly drug heroin to an
elementary school and, hand it out that alone ought to
get you, the death penalty doesn't matter what. Ended up
(01:51:49):
happening and that's, To Your. Point bill martinez. We need
consequences there have. To be CONSEQUENCES and now, i, get
told well what about people that? Can't help themselves let me.
Tell you something if you can't help yourself and you
can't stop yourself from brutally. Harming other people that.
Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
We need to get.
Speaker 5 (01:52:15):
You right exactly what's not, actually an excuse that's.
Speaker 8 (01:52:20):
Not a protection that's an argument for us to be.
EVEN more aggressive i believe if we, had more accountability
there actually would be more people exercising good judgment. About
their behavior this time in Accountability. Has harmed america.
Speaker 3 (01:52:40):
Historical evidence would would.
Speaker 4 (01:52:42):
Prove that out what they're talking is in the, realm
of theory and their theory falls flat because the data.
Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
Proves them. Wrong, flat, Outhors.
Speaker 8 (01:52:52):
Yeah yeah look we serve a god who, believes in
grace who believes in giving people, a second chance but
he has an ultimatum that, in the end if you are,
not with him you're going to be punished. In damnation
(01:53:13):
forever that's because he. Believes in accountability.
Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
It's why he. Gave the shord that's why he gave
the shord to government so that they. Would, render justice,
right that's right.
Speaker 8 (01:53:28):
That's exactly right so if you want to choose, to
serve him, he, welcomes it yes but, if you don't there.
WILL be accountability i don't understand any of these theories
like you just described where they say just give, them
another chance just ignore. WHAT they, did i mean The
(01:53:51):
Mayor Of new york city elect is hiring a convicted
felon to advise him on how to set police interrogation.
And oversight policies that's the. Exact wrong way it will,
be open season and As far, As i'm concerned i'm
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He is me.
Speaker 4 (01:54:18):
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