The Bill Martinez Show 01 02 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 02 26

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Speaker 2 (00:11):
And now Bill Martinez.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
Well, good morning, welcome. Six minutes after the top of
the our Bill Martinez here with Trevor Lauden. He celebrated
New Zealand, author, researcher and also a political activist and
national speaker as well. He is highly in demand. Everybody
wants Trevor. He's been sounding the alarm going back to
I guess your first book, Trevor, Barack Obama and the

(00:36):
Enemies within right.

Speaker 5 (00:38):
Yeah, bank Bank before he was elected.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yep, exactly. So the only I think, the only journalist
and researcher that did any inquisitive vetting of the would
be president, and everything that you said was it turned
out to be fact, and even more so because the
cat is out of the bag because here we are
seeing him louting the praises of one Mamdani, the New

(01:04):
York mayor.

Speaker 5 (01:05):
Right, exactly, one communist praising another effectively.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
Yeah, surprise, surprise, right, yep. Yeah, And so the most
recent books security risk. Senators, you blew our audience to mind.
Last time we talked, when you were talking about those
senators that you know presented a clear and present danger
to America. Of course, these senators that you talked about

(01:30):
in Part one included the senators from Arizona to Massachusetts,
and then part two includes the senators from Michigan to Wisconsin.
And the thing that comes up all the time, Trevor
is saying, how can this happen? You know, we are
a democratic republic and we are being taken over from within.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeah, well this is the thing. You know. For a
long time, America is pretty much ignored internal security. The FBI,
which was very strong under j. Gehobah and really got
on the communist case, was very very effective. But in
the nineteen seventies they were gutted after the Church hearings,

(02:10):
and Church was a far left senator from Idaho who
basically destroyed the US intelligence community. And from that time forward,
the FBI has ignored the communists. The communists have taken
over the maybe union movement. Every major union in America
now is under Marxist control. And if you control the

(02:33):
unions in America, you control the Democratic Party and who
gets selected. So since that time, since the late seventies,
early eighties, early nineties, the Marxists have been flooding the
US Congress and the US Senate without and out communists,
out and out socialist Marxist communists, to the point that

(02:55):
the majority of Democratic Senators would fit in that category.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Now, So who's actually controlling the Democratic Party? Is it
the socialist the Marxist or is it the deep state?

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Well, the deep state is Marxists. This is what people
don't get, you know. Diana West made it, wrote a
great book, The Red Thread, which she traced the Soviet
roots of the deep state.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Today.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
The deep state is a is a combination of Russian
and Chinese influence. So you've got the deep state, which
controls a lot of our you know, Justice Department and
FBI and probably the ciats large degree. And then you
have the communists on the ground who make sure who
determine who gets elected and what policies are implemented in

(03:42):
Congress if you like. If you want to know what
the Democrats are going to do tomorrow, read the Communist
Party newspaper today, because they will be talking about green
new deals. That'll be talking about open borders, nuclear deals
with Iran, fracking bands, promoting transgenderism, all of those things
that are coming out of the Democrats were formulated by

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the Communists.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
First.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
They want to bring America first to its knees, right,
Trevor One.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
You know America. These people are working for China, they're
working for Iran, they're working for Cuba Venezuela, and their
goal is to destroy the American Republic so the Chinese
and their Russian friends can dominate the plant. And they're
working with the Muslims as well. So the only you know,

(04:31):
roadblock to a one world socialist government is a free, independent,
constitutional America. So America is enemy number one, both externally
and internally of the hard left.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
So do you anticipate that what they have been doing,
because it's been a gradual progressive move by laptists, by
these progressives, But it seems that now they're emboldened, and
I would anticipate something even more aggressive in the coming years.
Is that what you're expecting?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Look, absolutely see Trump did us a favor in waste a.
He's held them back a lot in a lot of ways,
especially clamping down on a legal immigration because that was
their real you know, they just wanted to flood the
country of the legals, get them all voting Democrat and
then we're over and so. But he forced them all

(05:26):
out into the open. You know, Mandami is a lot
more open than he would have been three or four
years ago. Right, same with many of these other radical Democrats. Look,
if for Democrats get back in in twenty twenty six,
we will start to see America tenants of Venezuela. They
will come after their enemies. We already have seen how

(05:48):
the Biden administration was monitoring four hundred Republicans and various institutions, etc.
They staged at January the sixth coups to give them
an excuse to crack down on conservatives. So look, we
are the next democratic administration will be a communist administration,

(06:09):
and they will come after their enemies, the Conservatives, businesses
who support Conservatives, et cetera. And people will go to jail.
People will be put in prison for their political beliefs.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
You see, there's no doubt in my mind, and I
think in most people's minds, that's exactly what they'll do.
And what's surprising to me, even in this government shutdown,
Republicans have an opportunity to really you know, release the
nuclear option, go and start taking start taking ground count
the bodies go make it happen, because when they're in power,

(06:46):
they're going to do exactly that, and the Republicans have
missed the opportunity right.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
Look one hundred percent. Trump's what the nuclear option means
is currently in the Senate, you've got to have sixty
votes to pass something. The nuclear option makes at a
simple majority, meaning the Republicans could actually pass their agenda
and shut down the left, shut down their institutions, defund them,
do what has to be done. But you've got people

(07:13):
like John Thuhn, who's an old fashioned no no, let's
not rock the boat Republican. The head of the Senate
is just about as bad as Mitch McConnell. Say no, no,
we can't do that. The Democrats are absolutely going to
go nuclear if they get back into power. They're going
to stack the Supreme Court, pack it with more liberal
judges so we can't get majorities anymore. And they're going

(07:36):
to make Puerto Rico and DC into states, meaning four
more left wing senators Marxist senators, meaning we can never
get a majority in the Senate. They are going full
on communists, and people like fun are just living in
La la land. Just complete lala land.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
So you mean to tell me that when the Crouch
take over, if they do, and when they do, when
they go nuclear, no one is going to say, hey,
but remember I didn't do that to you him.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Yeah, they're gonna, well, well, they're gonna think you were
an idiot. You could have destroyed our agenda, and because
you had no idea what we're about, you led us
away with it. Well, we're going to show you how
dumb you are, and we're going to you know, look,
look that's exactly it. You know, they're not going to
show us any mercy at all if we looked It's like,

(08:33):
let's be nice to Hitler, maybe he won't start World
War two. Let's be let's be nice to Saddam Hussein,
maybe he won't kill kill as many people. No, anybody's
been to high school and seeing high school bullies knows
that being nice to bullies doesn't doesn't make any difference.
You gotta put it in their face. You got to

(08:55):
punch them in the nose. You've got to look, the
Democratic Party could be destroyed legally, ethically, morally by just
allowing the Republican and the market conservatives to do the
things that need to be done that exactly we're voted for,
and foon to hold that up. This nuclear option because

(09:17):
of some misguided gentlemanliness or whatever's reason is just unconscionable.

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We're back with him, glad, you could say, with its
Bill Martinez here with Trevor Lauden, the New Zealand researcher,
a nationally renowned speaker and author his most recent book,
Security Risk Senators, Part one and two. Everything that Trevor
has been reporting on and announcing on the show, it's
all wide open now. As he said, Mom, Donnie and
all the other communists now are coming out from underneath

(14:26):
the beds and closets, out of the closets. I mean,
you see them for what they are. And as you say, Trevor,
the Democratic Party has already demonstrated what they're willing to do.
All you've got to do is go back to January
sixth and see what they did to all these patriots.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Right Well, if you can look at January sixth, if
you can look at the toleration of Black Lives Matter,
they're allowing twenty million illegals to cross the border and
their unlawful persecution of Trump and the supporters trying to
basically and inventing the Russia collusion hopes. If that capable

(15:01):
of that which has resulted in many many deaths, you know,
you know, legals thousands of people died because of this.
If they can do that, what limits are there they are?
I'm saying it straight up. The Democratic Party is now
a Marxist communist party. And if they get power one
more time, we will see Venezuela come to America.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
No, yeah, you'll never You'll never see another Republican president.
And there's no doubt about it, you know. And you
talk about the enemies within. And I've been watching this
for quite a while from one of my old Bible teachers,
Chuck Missler, who.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
Oh, Chuck Missla Wow Zeland lived in New Zealand part of.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
The Yeah, well he left. He was in Cordelaine and
left Cordelaine moved to New Zealand. That's where you know,
it's where he passed away there. But he warned us,
he said, look at the Muslims are here. And what
they do is they start when they first have you know,
maybe one percent demographic influence, it's very little. They're congenial,

(16:02):
they you know, their religion of peace and all that
sort of thing. When they hit five and get the
five to ten percent rates, they start becoming more and
more militaristic. And here we are in America. You talk
about the enemies within the Muslim communities are growing eight
ten to one in their birth rate America is what
do we one point two one point three somewhere, not.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Even replacement, not even replacement liberal exactly.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
And so now in the twenty ten population, the Muslim
population in the United States was two point five million people.
Trevor projected in twenty thirty five years from now they
will be at six point two million, representing a growth
of one hundred and forty percent. So this has to
play right into the hands of the Marxist because they're
going to I mean, they're taking over. I mean you

(16:48):
listen to Rashida Talib and you go, why is she
still in Congress the way she misrepresents America?

Speaker 5 (16:55):
Yeah, look, why is Illini? Iimarn exactly. It's reliably hused
in court of being an agent for Kuta. You know,
this is a big ties to the Iranian embassy. Look Look,
when I came to America, I had to swear a
declaration that I've never been involved in any socialist or

(17:15):
communist or fascist organization that sought to overthrow or undermine
the US Constitution. And I happily and gladly signed that.
I thought that was fair. Well, if you're a Sharia
compliant Muslim, if you believe in Sharia law, you believe
Sharia law should be the rule of the law of
the world. That's Allah's law, and your duty is to

(17:38):
have it implemented wherever you live. You're automatically at odds
with the United States Constitution. You're automatically trying to undermine
and subvert the Constitution. We need to broaden the immigration
thing of any organization or movement which seeks to overthrow
or undermine the US Constitution. I don't care what you

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believe spiritually, Islam as a political system, masquerading as a religion, as.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
A really exactly and as political you know, I want
to stop in just a minute again, and how you
say that again, because a lot of people do not
understand it. They think it's a religion. It is not.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
It's a politic Islam as a political ideology. And system
masquerading as a religion. Islam is primarily political. It's all
about getting power, getting obedience, you know, It's not about faith.
It's about submission to authority. That is why the Islamists
works so closely with the Marxists and the Communists that

(18:44):
the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the father of most of
the Sunny terrorist groups and the father of Care and
Muslim Student Association, was founded partially by the Egyptian Communist Party.
It was a political system.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
You know.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
I don't get upset about Hindus. I don't get upset
about up Sikhs or Jains or Buddhists or whatever. You
can believe what you want to believe. Islam is the
only religion that is spread primarily by the sword, by
immigration or political influence. It is a political system, a

(19:22):
top down, tyrannical political system, very like communism. That's why
I oppose, That's why I don't believe muslim should be
allowed in the country right.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Well, as a religion, how many how many millions of
people are they responsible for killing?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Trevor Well, just millions? You know.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
Religion, I mean religion.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
Well, Christianity has had a few black marks in its
name too. But the point is you don't get it.
You don't get a Muslim knocking on your door and say,
come down to the mosque, we're having a thing. You
get christian is doing that all the time. Christianity is
spread primarily by proselytization, by people talking to you. Islam

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has been almost always spread by the sword or by
mass immigration. It's not because they persuade people. It's because
they force people to adopt their religion on pain of death.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Well, Trevor, about three minutes left here, what's the prescription
for America? I mean, some people might just say, and
we've been saying for a long time in different books,
about America's at that tipping point? Are we behind the
tipping point? Is there something that can be done today
to affect our future?

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well, I lay a lot of that out of my
book Security Risks, and it's it's part two. But look,
the immediate task before us is make sure Trump wins
the midterm elections. That should be our complete focus, because
if he loses that, everything else goes. He'll be impeached,
he'll be subpoena, he'll be whatever, and then the Democrats

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will take over In twenty twenty four, and we'll all
be refugees in our own country. So look, every politically
active person, every Christian should be doing every single thing
they can to win the midterm elections, which is eminently
doable if we turn out, and if we win the midterms,

(21:22):
Trump gets two more years to get rid of a
whole much, a whole bunch more illegals. I think the
nuclear option will be adopted. I think it will happen,
and we could see a very different and much more
positive America in two years, two and a half years,
tipe much better. I think we're at a tipping point.

(21:42):
We could we're either going to go way down from
here or we're going to go up. And it's up
to what we do politically and religiously. Because God helps
those who stand in faith and courage for truth. David
and Goliath will tell you that we got to do
We've got to do that. That's what we got. Our

(22:03):
goal right now is to make sure that Trump wins
the mid terms.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Got to get out involved. You can't sit out like
you did in New York and be active.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
You've got to be Look, Mandami could have easily been
defeated had the Republicans taken seriously early on. It had
had had the Republicans called out as communism early on,
but they were too complacent.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Well, my complaint has been that it seems that the
Republican Party is quick to surrender land. They surrendered, you,
I mean, even if they even if they just let
courteously want to go out there, they left him without
any kind of weapons.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
Well, well, that's why I said, We've got to make
sure Trump wins the mid terms, not the Republican Party
wins the midom. They will win. Trumb will win the
mid terms because we will use the Republican Party ballot
line to get elected as many Conservatives as possible and
give Trump the majority. See needs. I do not have
a lot of faith in the Republican hierarchy. I've got

(23:01):
a lot of faith in the Republican grassroots. I lectured
to them all over the country that are conservatives, patriots,
the hardcore, and continually they are let down by their
leadership like John Thune right now.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Well, and this is why conservatives need to be on
the phone and megaphone calls to their senators to open
the government. Keep pressure on John Dune, help you help
him find a backbone here, Trevor.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah. If Reagan said, if they won't, if you
won't see the light, make him feel the heat.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, there it is Trevor Louden. As always we appreciate
on the inside. Go to his website. Tell him the
website and the books that are available there.

Speaker 5 (23:44):
Well, Trevor Ouden dot com. All my books of that,
and I've also got one. It was written about Kamala
Harrison Till Walts, but it's about It's called Stealth Kamala
Harrison's Communist Roots, described as the book of the century
by the Christian anti Communist crusade, which is all about
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newest book. So just go to travel out dot com.
My books are there on the Senators, on the congressman,
on Obama, on Joe Biden, and just about every communist
she could think of in the US Congress and Senate.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
You heard him rite communists in our Senate, ladies, tons
of them.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
It isn't just AOC and Rashida today he's at least
fifty my hardcore Marxist in the House. I'm thirty in
the Senate.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
At least Trevor Lauden has been our guest. Thank you Trevor,
to take care of God speed my friend.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Thank you always always a pleasure bill.

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Hey, we're back with you, Bill Martinez here with doctor
Wilfrid Riley, the Kentucky State University professor. Hey, well, how
are we doing doing well?

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Doing well? Good to be good to be back on
the program.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Hey, always good to be talking to you. Hey, let's
talk about how the Republicans have kind of blocked themselves
in a corner with dealing with Obamacare, with this deadline
that you know, the Democrats have been able to manufacture,
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Speaker 2 (28:53):
Yeah, I mean there's a lot here.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
So first of all, one of the issues the parties face,
because if we're talking about this both as adult guys,
is that when someone does something that's not ideal but
that works, very often the other team doesn't really want
to get rid of it. We've seen this with Republican
military spending bills. We've seen this with Republican developments of
the highway system. I honestly think we're seeing this with Obamacare.

(29:16):
We've seen this with Social Security. Both parties have grown
social Security. So the first question is is there actually
a GOP alternative in the works to Obamacare right now,
because if not, we're going to have a lot of
negotiations and then we're just going to have a deal
somewhere along the way. I think that that's what's lurking
in the background. When something gets done by one of

(29:39):
the sides and it's reasonably popular with the American people,
you're often never going to get rid of it. And
I'm not saying resign yourself to Obamacare if you're a
small business owner, but I really do think you need
to push Republican politicians to say what the alternative is
if you want there to be an alternative.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
So that's the backstory here.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, I mean the recent budget fight, the shutdown was
initiated basically by the Dems. Usually what happens in these
fights is that you're going to get something like cars
continuing Appropriations resolution minderstanding is that's what they did this time,
and that's going to push.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
The government forward for two or three or four.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Months, and then at the end of that time, you're
going to have to act like big boys again, and
you know, figure out what the underlying problem was. The
government's been really bad at figuring out what the underlying
problem is during the entire time. I've been a political
science prof so I actually teach a class on this
called legislative process and the kind of last thing. But

(30:37):
like in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, the entire government was
under some kind of budget resolution. Their budget was set
based on the twenty ten budget. They've used cars eight
times total, So you at some point there are really
core disagreements between the left and right, between black and
white representatives, between the north and the south, about what
the government even should be doing, what the welfare budget

(30:59):
of the US they should be And the question is
is that resolvable And I'm not I'm starting to have
some questions about that.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, because well, the deal is is you have such
divergent interest and their self interest they're not They're not
in the interest of the country. And that's that's the
challenge that you have when you have which George Washington
warned about, when you have sides, When when you have
you know, teams playing against one another and instead of

(31:28):
really being able to look at this in a unifying sense,
because somebody doesn't want to not get credit for coming
up with a solution, right, it's it's it's all about
it's all about political you know, political posturing as opposed
to you know, coming up with the right, right solution here,

(31:48):
because meanwhile, what you've done is you've hired hijacked healthcare
going back to the Obama years, and what do you
got to show for it? Bupcus even worse than bupkus
buckus might be better than what we got right now.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, there are a lot of problems with Obamacare, I
mean national healthcare. One of the problems with national health
care is that it's a push pull issue where you're
never going to satisfy most people.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I mean, I talked to a British friend once and
his comment was socialism is tempting because it genuinely is.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Better for a lot of poor people, especially if they're lazy,
which I thought was a really blunt description. And the
flip side of that is that capitalism is better for
almost everyone who's middle class or wealthy. So, I mean,
when you look at healthcare, if you're low income, if
you're a college student or something like that, or recent
immigrant to the country. Under the traditional US model, unless
you were badly injured enough to go to an emergency room,

(32:43):
you basically just didn't have healthcare.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
You didn't go to the doctor on that often.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
And what the Britt pointed out is if you go
to England, everyone has fairly bad teeth. Not like minor beautiful,
but like everyone's got all their teeth, but they're like crinkly,
they've got may one over here jokes about the breads,
but everyone has their teeth, was his point. Everyone gets
about the US working class standard of health care.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
In the USA.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
You have people that have perfect veneers and you also
have some people that don't have all their teeth. And
that was the traditional model, like you'd go to the
dentist when you had money for the dentists. Obamacare did
lift the floor for healthcare, but it lifted the floor
for health care at enormous cost because it was done
by the government. The government is so big and clunky
and and efficient. So for almost everyone else, including me,

(33:29):
I was in graduate school by this time, you saw
your premiums increase. If you ran a small business enough
and became almost unsustainable. So there were all these critiques
of Obamacare that became immediate and they were leveled very rapidly.
The thing is, I haven't seen the GOP come up
with an alternative, whether that's healthcare exchanges, whether that's something
like the faith based healthcare markets.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
I haven't seen.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Home health savings. They've thrown out some ideas, but there
needs to be You're exactly right. See, this is the problem.
This is what's causing this to linger because as the
Republicans have not come out with a solid plan, like
as if they didn't all I mean, they've been fighting
this battle for what fifteen years now?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yeah, So to me, the Republican alternative to all this stuff,
including Social Security by the way, would be private investment
where there's the same amount of money taken out of
your check and this applies to your poor as well.
Poor people pay what is it medicare, Medicaid fiico, right,
but that's fifteen or twenty percent and you get that money. Now,
there would be limits once you can spend it on,

(34:31):
as there are with child support.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
So basically you take.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
That and you you use some of it if you
need emergency aid for something else. But you put that
in robin hood or whatever, and you yourself grow your wealth.
And I think again, almost everyone who's working middle class
on up would say that's dramatically better for me than
the Social Security system.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
But the problem, but the problem is is you get
people at the lower scale will and I heard some
politicians today and I just wanted to crash. I was
driving in the car almost an embankment. He goes, well,
you know, these people can't take care of themselves. Excuse me,
you know, like that's our job. I mean that, like
that's everybody else's job. Is that we got to take

(35:11):
care of the knuckleheads that don't want to take care
of themselves, so we continue to coddle them and cripple them.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Well, this is this is kind of the issue.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
I mean, there's a famous tweet where a guy who's
like a project manager is ranting, we're all at the
mercy of the bottom twenty percent. Like my project's been
delayed for months because there's one homeless guy sleeping in
the building.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
And it just goes on and on. Like you go
to school, your kids in class, all dumb kids.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
One kid wants to start a fight that schools shut
down for four hours. We're all at the mercy of
the bottom twenty percent. I mean, your girls get pregnant
high school often with your girlfriend even interested in high school.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Like, it just goes on and on.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
It's like a page long rant. But look up bottom
twenty percent for anyone in the audience. But I mean
I think that there's that's a that's a valid point.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
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Speaker 3 (35:58):
And he's got like two tweets on just shorter. It's
like we're all up in mercy of the bottom twenty percent.
It's his rant condensed and it really is funny. But
at any rate, the question is how you morally view that.
I think we've often gotten deep into ethics on this show.
What the guy is saying, the GOP politician is saying,
and Republicans, if anything, tend to be more ethical than

(36:19):
the Burrows at some level I think we all know
is correct.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
So getting to the.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Point, if you give me thirty percent of my income back,
which is you know it's probably the high five figures,
and you allow me to put that in e trade
or some gold or something like, clearly I'm gonna make better.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Returns on that than I am on social security.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Clearly, in twenty years, I'm gonna get more than sixty
three thousand dollars or whatever back on that. It's it's
gonna be substantially, substantially more. The problem, though, is if
you are a working poor guy and you are prone
to buy into scams like, they're gonna be whole crypto
markets targeting that center of the economy, like all those

(36:57):
crap coins you can buy in gas stations, the pills
behind the counter are going to have crypto coins like
it's funny. But at the same time, the bottom twenty
five percent of people are going to end up with
no savings at all. They're going to be growing vegetables
behind their houses, and the question is what do we
do about that? And I think historically the idea that

(37:17):
working poor families would be growing vegetables and would be
Your son is now old enough to go, he's in
high school, he's working a job that wasn't really a
problem for anybody else, like you might dad might be
a Walmart greeeder. Mom would probably be at home by
this time.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
But today I think.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
That we've grown used to the idea that that is uncomfortable.
So if the government privatized social security.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
This is the point.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Gave the money to everybody, and twenty five percent of
the people wasted the money. A problem for men, even
in the upper middle class, would be gambling. Now that
you have draft kings and all that sort of stuff,
what is an investment? Can you invest in pro football?

Speaker 4 (37:55):
You know?

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Like if all these people that tapped the people, if
a quarter of the people throw them money away, which
is the usual pet, there's going to be a government
program designed to give them the money back. That's the
issue with the Republican privatization plan.

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Speaker 6 (42:23):
Of political science at Connecting State.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
University the author of Taboo. Ten Facts you Can't talk
About in Lives. My liberal teacher taught me will as
you're saying, I think at some point, I mean, our
constitution is designed for people who want to take responsibility.
I mean, that's the ethos of this. If you don't
want to take responsibility, and if there's a government who
is willing to go ahead, I mean, and I guess

(42:49):
leverage the assets of producing Americans in order to take
care of people, because you know, we're all empathetic to
a point. I mean, we're not going to sit there
and want somebody to, you know, suffer. It breaks my
heart every time I go back to my home state
of California and you know, go driving back in the
old areas where you know, I used to work in
downtown LA at the radio stations there, and you see

(43:11):
seventy what have they got seventy thousand homeless people sleeping
under the overpasses there. They're drug aduled, and I mean
it's really it is heartbreaking. But the problem is is that,
see we're looking at it, We're looking at a situation
that's been ignored for decades, you know, and we didn't

(43:33):
come up with a solution, and we need to come
up with a solution again, going back to what you know,
the early Pilgrims figured out socialism didn't work. They said, hey,
let's try to know everybody will just all put it
in there together. And then you had human instinct being
what it is, you hat people that were lazy and said, hey,
I don't need to work and just feed me. And
we got eight women here, so we're going to have

(43:55):
the eight women do my clothes and everything else. Because
they got away with it for two years until finally,
you know, the rest of people said, hey, we're you know,
somebody's going to get killed here, so we better just
give everybody a farm, let them earn their way, and
all of a sudden, you know, the community started thriving.
So you know, that was our experimentation into socialism back then.
But we forget that, you know, we don't want to

(44:16):
remember that part of history to say, look at we've
we've tried it. It didn't work. It's stupid. It debases
and dehumanizes the individual, and we've got to find a
way to get that message across to these young kids.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
That look at.

Speaker 4 (44:30):
You know, our life is very short, really, you know,
the Bible says seventy eighty years. If you're lucky, you know,
what do you want to do with that lifespan?

Speaker 6 (44:38):
You know?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Yeah, I think that there again, I think there's a deep,
almost moral problem here. Like anyone who's ever done like
an ecstatic version of prayer for that matter, one of
the psychedelics common in college has felt the sense of
no ego, like if I were this perfect person all
the time, I could make a better society.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
But the problem is there's also.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
A different you, which isn't bad either in the boxing
gram or hunting elk, which is very different and a
bit more predatory. You're not perfect and ego lists all
the time, and most people are, believe it or not,
less perfect and egoists perhaps than me or you. And
so when you set up society, you have basically you

(45:17):
can't imagine that your society is made up of angels.
You have to set it up as if it's made
up of people. And that's why communism doesn't work. It's
it's just pointless to say, well, if everyone were this
perfect being of pure light, this would be the best system.
Because people aren't, and that also has advantages, Like in
most religious traditions, the angels are jealous of the humans
we can have, let's say, marriages. You know, we can

(45:39):
eat food, Like there are significant advantages to being here.

Speaker 4 (45:43):
Yeah, little do they know until the angels, if they
were allowed to get married, they'd go, oh my god,
what were we thinking?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I mean, they're like they're big physical questions, but I mean,
like it's just they're the commination of what a matter
and energy I think is not a poor way to
exist as a being. We have to regulate some of
the animalistic aspects of that, but the overall framework is
a pretty positive one. Given the other two options, I mean,

(46:11):
and ghosts and demons, the theories about what the what
either extreme would be are interesting. We obviously see what
animals are, but at any rate communism yet it doesn't work.
And it gets back to what we're talking about here.
The question of civilized societies to some extent is how
much to give to the underperforming Basically, I mean like

(46:34):
when you're talking about La, there are seventy thousand bums
in La or whatever term we're supposed to use.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I mean, they're entire.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Era homeless people. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yeah, their entire areas of la that are tent camps,
and it is I've always liked it as a city.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
It is disturbing to see.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
They have no problem taking those Americans and putting them
in small houses and give them this, at very least
the basics that we give to people in our welfare tenements,
food and so on, a card that will allow you
to purchase warmth and meat. The issue tends to be
this is the same as the issue with the people

(47:15):
taking the Social Security money and spending it on drugs.
The issue tends to be that without the kind of
strict rules that we used to have in the past,
you can't just give non functional people liberty, Like you
can't take a homeless guy and also say here's ten
thousand dollars for a quarter of the year and an
EBT card, because it's very obvious what's going to happen. Right,

(47:35):
So traditionally what we used to do with homeless people
is here's a shelter with very strict rules that were
incredibly invasive, like you have to do this amount of
religious practice, no homosexuality, probably no sexuality, and wear clean
clothes in a shower is seven.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
To fifteen in the morning.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
And what happened was that fifty sixty percent of people
got out of those shelters and just became normal citizens.
Either were the breaking experiences you could otherwise have simply
weren't allowed. You just went out and got a job
as a brick layer or something, joined the union, and
became normal. Now we've essentially banned that process of conversion.
In fact, we use the term conversion therapy in this

(48:15):
setting and a bunch of others entirely negatively, like you
should never change someone from their current state. So it
becomes very difficult, and basically I don't think we can
continue this long term, Like I don't think you can
have the combination of almost total freedom, like hey, there's
a rave down the street with a welfare state, i e.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
Other people have to give you some percentage of their.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Money the last thing. But Saudi Arabia actually it implemented
a new vices policy, and their policy is pretty much,
if you can afford the thing, and if you don't
get it in any trouble at all, you can do
whatever you want. Like alcohol is legal in the Kingdom.
Now the drug kraton is legal in the kingdom. There

(48:57):
are party houses in the Kingdom. But the two catches
are you have to make I think it's fifty thousand
dollars a year.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
You don't want just.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Ordinary guys spending money that their wives don't have on
this stuff. And too like if you get caught the
first time, they're not going to beat your throwy in jail,
but you're getting this warning from the cake like this
can't happen again.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
So those those are the two caveats.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
Like, as long as that you can party given those
two things, I think that's quite healthy.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Yeah, well, you know bound boundaries clearly. I mean, we
try to live with boundaries, I mean regardless, you know,
self imposed or otherwise. But it's interesting, like you said,
you know, previously where they would bring homeless people into
a program, what they're finding out now is that many
of them they don't want the structure. So you know,

(49:41):
now you only got about five percent. I think there
was five percent of the people that were coming in
would actually stay there and put up with you know,
they'd much rather be out in the fields and do
whatever and do as they darn well please. And they've
been able to And what I'm i guess I'm concerned
with is that we're so far down the road. And
I hate to use this term, but it's almost like

(50:01):
some of these people are irredeemable will and if you
just cut your losses or I mean, and that's hard
to say that you're talking about a fellow human being
that you're going to just say, hey, look at you
know you just you want to be a drug addict.
You want to you know, we're gonna, I don't know,
courting you off somewhere. We're going to send you to
Australia or something.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I mean, I think a lot of societies would just
chill you.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I mean, it's hard to advocate that undercurrent conditions, you know,
But like my before getting to that point, because I mean,
I suppose as a medieval leader, I'd be fully capable
of just saying, you know, line up some crosses by
the road if we have this level of sexcribe.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
And so on.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
But before getting to that point, I would simply reinstate
the rules that make functionality possible. And actually, I think
that's the level we would get to before anything else.
I mean, when you see we're blowing.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
So I hope so, but you got to get all
these coddlers out of the way, because look a look
at what you've done. You have raised a dependent class.
I mean we're talking generations now, will and again. And
for me, I think I'm a little like Charlie Kirk
in a sense that I think about their humanity as
an individual in the time here spent on earth. You know,

(51:09):
you want it to be the best version of yourself
and hopefully you have some kind of legacy in a
family that you've you know, you've you've passed the baton
onto to continue this great American experiment.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
Yeah, I mean I think that, first of all, I
mean the second point is just accurate.

Speaker 2 (51:27):
The I think that the people that would try.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
To block this are less powerful than you would probably think.
In terms of people in the elite left, I mean
that that's like one or two percent of society.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
The people think men can be women and so on.

Speaker 3 (51:42):
And do you hate to describe it in just totally
ruthless terms, but in terms of people who are hulbos,
for example, they don't have a great deal of political power,
like they'll do whatever the people who are currently in
charge of society say at some level. I think before
we get into any kind of real abuses on the right,
we would simply say we're reinstating some of these old rules.

(52:04):
If you're homeless, we have a vacancy policy in the city,
so you're gonna go to this shelter. I mean, you
talk with the churches and women's organizations the zone and time,
you'd set up twenty of them that actually work on
like the warehouses we have now, and you're.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Gonna be there.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
We're gonna throw you in the county jail where nobody
wants to be. And I think you'd suddenly see a
massive decrease in outdoor camping or whatever. And this has
been tried dozens of times. I mean, Eric Adams in
New York is actually pretty good. Mayor did this, and
the first thing that Mamdani is doing when he entered
office is removing that policy so you can again live outside.

(52:40):
So kind of showing a weird, a weird sense almost
of reverse priorities there, we're starting with the most marginalized
people would be the way he'd probably describe it. But anyway,
I mean, I think we can return toward normalcy. I
think the vast majority of people want to And an
illustration of that that's become very controvert. But only on

(53:00):
Twitter is the Trump administration blowing up the drug boats.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Where you have this weird illustration.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
And I have no idea whether this is very technically
illegal under international law. I know that double tap strikes
on land clearly aren't. Like there's no rule that if
you're attacking a Taliban base in northern Afghanistan, if the
first drone flies over and wounds twelve guys, you then
have to stop attacking.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Because your enemies are wounded.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
But I don't know if there's some weird codhicol for
pirates or something like that. But I also don't care,
and I don't think anybody does. I mean, there are
one hundred thousand fentanyl and cocaine overdoses last year, so
it seems like a normal government policy. Like if the
helicopter flies over once, or you're flying the black flag,
you don't.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Have a national flag on your boat.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You got fifty oil drums on your boat, you know
you're a danger boat, keeps moving, a missile hits, And
I mean, I think that you see this shrieking from
certain people like my god, the poor Narco traffickers, and
I think the ordinary person is just looking at this like, well,
of course the government's going to blow up internet national
dope dealers if there were an x number of miles
of our waters, And what are you even talking about?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
What does the government do of it? Take your tax
money with that?

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I so you don't want those people and those politicians
executing a war plan will because they don't even know
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It's crazy. We got to leave it there, But you
know we're going to talk about that the next time
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Speaker 4 (55:49):
Hey right now six minutes after the top of the
are Bill Martinez here, and Yes, Jonathan Cohn uh, the
one and only, joins us now to talk about his
brand new book. Jonathan as always, welcome to Michelle. Good
to have you with us, Oh, great to be with you.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Always enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Well, I'm so excited to talk about this new book, Avatar,
which is going to be released very soon and soon.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
Again, right, yes, very soon. This is this is the
newest book bill is It is probably the most explosive
book I've ever written. I mean, I've written explosive books,
but this one, The Avatar is going to really remove
the veil behind what is happening in our world, what's
happening on the political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually,

(56:37):
what's happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding
right now and really giving exact revelation of where we are,
where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And
you know, I did the Return of the Gods, and
this is going to do another level when we get
into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to

(56:57):
open it all up, but we don't even know what's
going to happen when this thing comes out, because right,
because it is that explosive.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Well and uh, and I'm glad you mentioned the Return
of the Gods because that was going to be one
of my questions. Is this the next step, you know,
from the Return of the Gods?

Speaker 6 (57:13):
Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going
to another level because the you know, the return of
the gods. For those who don't know the mist, the
basically the principle is that that if a nation or
civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism or
these spirits these gods, which the Gospel did in Western civilization,

(57:35):
it basically cleansed that out. If it should ever turn
away from God, if it ever turned away from the
Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of it
is going to come back into it. The actual ancient
entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.
And that is what we are witnessing in America, what
we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last

(57:56):
number of decades. But now it's going to another level.
That it's you know, when you have God, when you
have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the pagan world,
that is, you have vessels or people or leaders who
are actually used as instruments of these forces. And that's
where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah, so
it's going to another level affecting our government, really determining

(58:18):
every election in the last few presidential elections, as well,
well exactly, and as you say, when the gods come
back seven times worse is what the Bible tells us. Jonathan,
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I mean, you know, it's a
dangerous thing for any quote Christian or Judeo Christian based
culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look what
happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when Germany

(58:40):
did it. And now we've been watching it happen all
around us. So yes, it is exactly that. It's you know,
it's it's worse than a pagan or pre Christian civilization,
is a post Christian civilization because pre Christian, you know,
you might have a Nero, but post Christian you have
a Hitler.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
Yeah exactly. Well let's get into it. Avatar. What is
the avatar going to reveal?

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Well, it's going to reveal those things. This is gonna
this is again, it's gonna be I believe mind blowing
that it's going to be taking away the veil you're
gonna see. I mean, behind the people on our national
stage are ancient mysteries playing out. I mean, even behind
the assassination attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to
an ancient priesthood. There there is so much and again

(59:25):
it's going to be explosive. Could there actually right now
be on the American national stage, political stage, Could there
be one who is in effect an avatar of an
ancient God. It's going to say it sounds crazy, it
sounds wild, but it's actually true.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Well exactly, Well, in the avatar you share something you
never before have written about your encounters with the gods
or spirits. So what happened to you in India when
you sounded the biblical trump at the Schoffar?

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Yeah, well, I was in. I was in in front
of like thousands and thousands of people at night, Indian
people and robes, and they'd never heard the gospel, as
most of them, and I'm going to share the gospel
to them, but I decided to first sound the show
far the biblical trumpet, and you know, and there, and
the thing is, I did and something came back. We

(01:00:13):
couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a wave
came back. And if you can imagine being at an exorcism,
except multiply it by masses, a mass exorcism, it was
as if spirits were just fleeing. And the thing is
that that I you know, when I looked later, I'm
reading and you're in the Bible. It says when you
sound the show far in the midst of war, the
enemy is going to be defeated. And it's actually been

(01:00:35):
an ancient tradition that or belief that when the show
far sounded, you know, the enemy flees, or actually they
used it in exorcisms. But the people in India, they're
not reading the Bible and they're not reading a Jewish encycopedia.
So yet it happened, you know, And after it happened,
I was able to give the Gospel and pray and
about seventy thousand people received the Lord, you know, from

(01:00:55):
that happening. So this is the beginning of what the
Bible speaks about, says behind the gods, you know, Israel's
I'm sorry. India is a land of millions of gods,
so you're good. The Bible says behind the gods are
spirits entities. So that's really part of that mystery. These
things are real.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
So what did you think? I mean, you blowed the
chauffeur and all of a sudden you sensed this reverse waves,
so to speak. It wasn't a settling of the Holy
Spirit with flames of tongue on people'shead. I mean, you
you sense this movement, this spiritual movement out of where
you're at. What what did what did you think when
that happened?

Speaker 6 (01:01:30):
Well, when that first happened, we couldn't even make sense
of it. It was too like overwhelming. Yeah, I realized it
was like blood curdling screams like someone people like again
of someone being being exercised of a spirit. But it
was maths of people, I mean, you know, and again
they didn't why did they had no idea about the
show far in the Bible, you know. So these things

(01:01:51):
are real. And I saw it in other lands as well,
wherever they were worshiping gods. There are spirits, There are
these things, and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going
to come to America and what we are dealing with
right now. But I saw it all over the world.
I saw it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over
the same phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop
there in Cuba?

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro
opened the island for one month for the Gospels. They
asked me to come and sound the so Far minister
across the island, and I'm in one city. In the
city is a gigantic a mountain. On top of the
mountain is they're worshiping gods. They have a house of
idols and they have sacrifices, and they're telling me it's
like cursed up there. So I said, okay, I guess

(01:02:35):
we're going up there. I go up there with the
so Far and I was like, there's a man in
front of the of the pavilion of the House of
the Gods, and he sees me and he starts speaking
to me. And I don't know the guy, but he
comes over to me and he says, I've been waiting
for you. And he says and he's holding in his
hand a ceramic plate that has a painting of me on.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
It, blowing the so Far.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
And the thing is he was a Christian. He said,
God told them to paint that paint that image, put
it in the House of the Idols. And that night
something happened. The strap broke apart, and the plate comes
down and strikes the head of the idol of the
Chief God of Cuba a goddess named Oshun and and
the next morning the worshipers open up the pavilion. They

(01:03:18):
find their chief God on the floor with the crown removed,
and next to it is this image of this guy,
this Jewish guy with a so far, and the so
far was chipped. It's struck just where that sound comes out,
struck the head of the isdle. You know in the
Bible talks about Dagon and people say, oh, that's just
a legend. No, it's not. God is real. And the
thing is that that the word came down to the

(01:03:39):
city and people started going to the churches bringing their
idols and saying, smash our idols. We heard what happened
on the mountaintop, and revival broke out again the gods,
this is a real thing, and it's interesting again you
have the trumpet, the so far.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
Yes, right, without a doubt. We got about fifty seconds
in this segment here left. Uh the t r OTG principle. Well,
well that is we'll probably just introduce it and then
we'll go to break and then we'll come back and
unwrapid even more.

Speaker 6 (01:04:05):
Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is going
to be. It's gonna have to do with America because
if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are
coming in or the spirits are coming in, and that
is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining
what is happening right now, what's happened to our culture,
what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open
up a lot of ancient mysteries. That's what I reveal

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And we're back with you Bill Martinez here along with
the best selling author Jonathan Kahn. And he's done it
again with his next book coming out that we can't
wait to get our hands on, titled The Avatar. We
were talking about, you know, what's happening, all these things
that are affecting America. You know, you and I've talked

(01:09:33):
before how Israel is the center and the focus. I've
often said that Israel is the our hand of God's
prophetic clock, and what's passing our minutes and seconds. But
somewhere within the minutes and seconds in the current calendar
is America. Jonathan.

Speaker 6 (01:09:51):
Yeah, actually America was patterned after ancient israel I. Remember
you know the West, which America is the inheritor of that.
This is Western civilization, really the only civilization that was
actually exercise of the gods. The Gospel came in and
drove out all these things. But the warning is that
if we ever turn away from God, they're coming back.
And we empty the house. House isn't staying empty. You know,

(01:10:14):
Look what we did, you know, we empty the schools.
We said, we take prayer out, take take the Bible out,
we empty that out. Well look at what has come
into the schools, you know. So this is a principle.
And the thing is that you know, when when for instance,
remember the Olympics that just happened, right, and there was
this blasphemous thing they had this Last Supper and then
the Last Supper, what happened instead of they replaced Jesus

(01:10:37):
with a with an ancient pagan god exactly what we're
talking about. The ancient god was the god Dionysis, and
it's really a symbol of what's been happening in our culture.
So they have this guy as this God. Well, you know,
there was a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a
German philosopher, and he actually did the same thing. He
drove out God. He said, we got to get rid

(01:10:58):
of Jesus. In the nineteenth century, he wrote these, he
wrote these books, you gotta get rid of it. And
he actually lifted up the god Dionysus. Same one of
the Olympics, he says, we and he actually was almost
a worshiper of this. And I think, you know, Dionysus
drove his worshipers insane. Mad Well, Nietzsche strangely goes insane,
and he starts signing his name as Dionysus, as if
he was taken over by the spirit. And the thing is,

(01:11:20):
his writings went on, and you know who picked it up.
Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and so did the Nazis.
He became the philosopher of the Nazi movement. So look
what happens when you take out God, as we were saying,
you take out God and you take out Jesus. Well
what's gonna come is dangerous And look what and that's
where we are so that is a little real symbol
of what we saw with the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
Yeah, vacuum cannot exist. Yes, you know, if something is
gonna something is going to fill that God's space, right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:48):
And it's gonna be God's It's gonna be it's gonna
be darkness, right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
Because the thing is it comes in as a counterfeit.
And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the illegitimate. Yeah,
it's you know, in Hebrew, the word for God is eloheim,
but the eloheim also is used to speak of the
false gods. It also can mean the gods. So it's
either one Alohem or the other. Either God, you know, God.
I don't care.

Speaker 6 (01:12:11):
If it's communism, I don't care if it's secularism. It
doesn't matter. If you don't have God, the gods are
coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
Well. In the book the Avatar, when when is the
actual publishing date of the Avatars? So we get.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Levatar is coming out. The actual date is September second
before that people can you I mean you can order
it now and you'll probably get it early. And it
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looks like this if you can see it this is
what's going to look like. So if you go, if
you go online or you go on Amazon or anywhere
right now, you'll see that and you can actually pre
order it. They do send it early right excellent.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
Well, in the avatar you talk about and we touched
a little bit on it, on the ancient template that
reveals what is now happening to America.

Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is
that when Israel was falling away from God, the there
were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well, the
amazing thing is that there are American leaders who behind
the actually most of the most of the major American
leaders in the last half last quarter century actually have
prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through it

(01:13:16):
because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind virtually
each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And what
happens is it's basically when you read about the House
of Ahab, you know, Ahab was leading the nation away
from God, and it looked that it was gonna be
it was gonna be sealed away from God and it
was going to go to judgment. But then God had
a surprise, and that is the man named Jaehu. And

(01:13:38):
Jay who is the mystery or the prototype behind Donald Trump.
Jay who was wild, he was unpredictable. He was not
a politician, He was a fighter. He uh, you know,
it's amazing. He actually, you know, remember when Trump began
his campaign from the very beginning, He's at Trump Tower.
He comes down that staircase, he descends that staircase, dramatic

(01:13:59):
law which is the largest of the race. Well, you
know what, Jay who began on top of a staircase
and comes down and begins a race to the throne.
And actually, Jay who makes an alliance with the religious
conservatives of the land. So did Trump. Jay who comes
to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to power by coming face to face with the nation's
former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's amazing everything.

(01:14:23):
And it's not just the first coming of Trump, but
what's happening right now, this mystery is even more more so.
Right now it's like Jayhu on steroids. You know, Jay who,
in order think about it, in order to come to power,
he first came against the sitting king and then he
came against a woman who had an anti biblical agenda.

(01:14:44):
So look what happened in twenty sixteen. First he came
against Obama, but then he came against a woman with
an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton. But then in
twenty twenty four, the template of Jay who replays, He
first comes against the sitting king Joe Biden slaves him
at that debate, and then he comes against a woman

(01:15:04):
with an anti biblical agenda, which this case is Kamala Harris.
So that's what so he wins. You know, interesting because
in twenty twenty that wasn't the template. He was in power,
he was the king, so he didn't prevail. But in
twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four, that's why he won.
So even the mystery of our elections is part of
this biblical paradigm.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
And the people may have freaked out when Donald Trump
wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign, He
had a plan, has a plan that is continuing to
be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been
sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an
apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud

(01:15:48):
his administration is pulling back to shroud and all these
hidden secrets. I mean, we just found a burn bag
at the FBI that had information that is critical that
we need to know right now that God says, you
know what, You're ready for the truth.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, you know, you know what, Bill,
It's amazing because what did when Jehu came to power.
You know what he did? He purged the government. It's
exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House of Ahab,
He dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump is dismantling,
he's purging. He's and it's not that Listen, we don't

(01:16:22):
know where Jay who was that with God? We just
know he was a vessel of God, you know, So
we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel. He's
being used. So you're absolutely right, and it's all part
of the mystery, you know. You know one thing the
Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You know
what happened on Trump's inauguration. He went is at anaugural ball.
They hand him a gift. They had him a sword,
and he takes it up and starts waving it and

(01:16:42):
dancing with it. Who does that. You know, Jay did
it and Trump did it. So we're actually watching It's amazing.
It's unfolding now, this mystery more than ever where we
are and where we're going.

Speaker 4 (01:16:53):
You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using
him and all this symbology. Jonathan and you had a
chance to talk with him about some of this.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
It's interesting that you said that I was led. You know,
eight days before the election, I was called to speak
at an event where Trump was coming, and Trump was there.
I mean, Trump was there, and I spoke the word
to like out to everybody, but it was to him.
It went viral on the web, and so it gave
a little taste of that. But it's interesting that you
say it, Bill, because I actually feel that I'm strongly

(01:17:24):
supposed to do exactly what you just said, because I
believe that God's not finished. He has something even higher
with Donald Trump. Pray that God makes the opening. There
are people trying to do it. So thank you exactly,
and let me throw something in for you just quickly,
and that is that. You know, here's when how long
has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well, people
would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time he

(01:17:45):
was a candidate. People don't know this first time he
was a candidate for president was actually two thousand. He
ran on the Reform Party. It was called Trump two thousand.
He actually won primaries, He won California and went. Now,
the thing is that if you take that span, when
will his life full year? B it will be the
year twenty eight, twenty twenty eight, and it's twenty eight
years from two thousand. Well, in the Bible it says

(01:18:07):
that Jay who was on the national stage for twenty
eight years.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Wow, I love this. I mean and time and time again.
This is what you bring, you know, to our audience
is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness.
And the thing is about God. God tells you in advances.
What other God does that? Jonathan right?

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
You know? You know, yeah, he knows the end from
the beginning and he reveals to his people. You know,
when people were asking me before Trump decided to run again,
saying do you think it's gonna do? I said, well,
the template in the Bible would say yes, and he
did exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:18:46):
Well, we're gonna go to quick break. Stay with us
because we've got more from Jonathan Cohn as we talk
about his new book, He is here the number one
New York Times bestselling author Jonathan Cohn the new book
Avatar right after this stay with us.

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And we're back with you America. Bill Martinez here along
with the best selling author Jonathan Cohn. We're talking about
the spranding you book the Avatar. You talked about presidents
and the most recent ones. Let's talk about Joe Biden
and his involvement here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:51):
Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I reveal
this in the Avatar that there's an ancient king in
the Bible part of this template I'm talking about, and
that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Jehoram was weak.
Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them,
so did Biden. Jehoram's at the beginning of his reign
suffers a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his

(01:23:14):
whole reign. So did Biden. It was it was Afghanistan
that's changed everything during Listen to this. During Jehoram's reign,
there are border incursions. Foreign people are coming and crossing
the borders. Well, Joe Biden. Also during the reign of Jehoram,
the land of Israel is attacked, invaded by Arabians and Philistines. Well,

(01:23:36):
the Arabians. The word that's another word of saying Arab
and philistine. Today the people called the Palestinians. What that
name means literally means philistine. The Arabic word for Palastinian
is Philistini. So it so there's an invasion. So with Biden,
the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in. And the ancient
invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip, and they came

(01:23:57):
into Israel and they took hostages back to Gaza. That
happened in the reign of the one who's the prototype
of Biden. Also, towards the end of his reign, the
Jehoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and so did Biden.
He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And the thing is
that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry, Jehoram

(01:24:18):
had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah. At
the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left.
His name was Hunter. Now both of them didn't serve
the Lord, but Haziah. Listen to. This comes from a
root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means to
seize well in Old German, the word to seize is henton,

(01:24:39):
which is connected to the name hunter. So I mean,
you can't make this up. It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Wow, that is amazing. So what did we already talked about, Jehu?
But Alato, let's go ahead and talk about the avatar
opening the mystery of the god kings.

Speaker 6 (01:24:59):
Yeah, it's called the obnever reasons. You see, wherever you
have when you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures,
in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief
that the gods can appear as people, or they can
you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And
usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look
at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be

(01:25:19):
living gods, you know. And so in the kings of Babylon,
kings of Asia, it's all over and that these see
in the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can
rule over the king, they can rule the nation. And
so America is at the point where we've we've let
these things in now to the point where these spirits
or these entities or gods, they're not content being coexisting.

(01:25:41):
They want dominion. And so if they can get the
government or get a leader. You've got the nation. So
could there actually be an avatar in America? Now listen here,
they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know,
the the remnant of what was pagan would be called
Pagan religion, and you have millions of gods. But they
believe that the House of Brahmen, this this Brahman house

(01:26:03):
of people, that that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well,
there was someone born of the House of Brahmen whose
name was Kamala Harris. Born of them, she was given
the name Kamala. Kamala. She was named after a goddess.
It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name

(01:26:23):
is deb DeBie, what does it mean the goddess. So
her name means Kamala the goddess. And actually Hindu writings
they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but not
only that Bill, but her whole life is going to
play out according to the mystery of this goddess. The
goddess according to the mythology Kamala, she begins by her rise,

(01:26:44):
born and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris was
born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco's
in the ocean by the ocean. Well, also the goddess
it becomes the number two ruler in the cosmos of
the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god, because she's

(01:27:05):
married to the king god, which is Vishnu. And actually
and so so you have Kamala Harris as the number
two to the president of the land. And the president
was called Sleepy Joe, Sleepy Joe. Vishnu is called the
sleeping God. Okay, literally, And now that you know how
it's kind of a strange's listen, it's not about Kamala Harris.
We've got to pray for everybody. They don't know what

(01:27:25):
they're doing. But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know. The strange
thing is that she was always laughing, they said, laughing
Kamala at.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
The wrong times.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
Yes.

Speaker 6 (01:27:32):
Well, well, in Hinduism there is the there is the
belief there is the laughing goddess called called the Debi,
which is Kamala's middle name. So literally, and that goddess
would laugh while she brought destruction or she'd wore she'd
being destruction. So you have the laughing goddess but now
let me there's so much, but let me even take
it even deeper. There's a day on the Hindu calendar

(01:27:52):
where it's it's all in honor of Kamala, the goddess. Okay,
it's called it's called Shahad Pernuma Orma. And so the
thing is Kamala. Harris was born in nineteen sixty four.
She was born on October twentieth. She was born on
shiad Peranma, the day of the goddess Kamala. So literally
she's born on that day. Not only that bill, but

(01:28:14):
she but at night. There's a night that is called
that is called Koja. You don't have to remember this,
but Kojagara Pooja, which is called the night they believe
that the goddess Kamala enters the world under the moonlight
the full moon, and they open their houses to receive her. Well,
Kamala Harris was born at night on that night Kojagara Pooja,

(01:28:34):
under the moon, under the full moon. She was born
on the night she entered the world, on the night
that the goddess is said to enter the world. And
let me give you one more thing, the Goddess Kamala,
that that there's one day where they celebrated as the
birthday of the goddess Kamala, and they tell the story
of how she was born by the ocean. Well, Kamala, Harris,
the woman Kamala was born on the birth the day

(01:28:57):
of the birth of the goddess Kamala, and so on,
as she's born, all around the world, they're chanting the
name of Kamala, of the goddess all over the world
as Kamala comes into the world.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Jonathan, here we were before this, we were concerned about
the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton. Now we
have the rise of Kamala Harris.

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't
know what we'll have time for. But that's even linked
to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked
to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had
a daughter, people don't realize this, whose name was Atalia.
And I in the Avatar opened this up. But this
is also what happens to. Atalia is also the pro
the flesh and blood prototype of Kamala Harris. And I

(01:29:45):
mean it's amazing. I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even
the way she was defeated is all part of the
template of Atalia. It's all there. But all these people
are linked to the gods, you know, and so Kamala Harris.
And here's another thing, Bill that you know, in ancient
time they would make pictures, images of the kings and queens,
merging them to the gods. They represent it. So in Egypt,

(01:30:08):
hieroglyphics and all that. Well, an image appears on the
Internet about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to
the White House's Vice President. It's put up by her
own family, and it merges her with a with a goddess.
I mean, it makes her as a Hindu goddess. I
mean crazy. But you know, and you want to put
this kind of bring it home. There's so much to it,

(01:30:28):
but to bring it home as this America was founded
to be one nation under God, under the rule of God.
If she had won, literally, we would be under the
rule of one called the Goddess, whose name means the goddess,
which is a sign of a nation that was you
put away God, this is what you get. It would
have sealed our future. But God had the surprise and

(01:30:49):
he gave us grace and gave us the last chance. Yeah,
that's just going to ask, you know, why did God
save us? Because I believe because of the prayers of
his people. I believe because as if people and you know, prayed.
I was gathering Bill you know in Washington there were
you know, tens of thousands of believers and we were
praying and praying and praying thirty days before the election,

(01:31:10):
and others were praying. Everybody was, you know, we were praying.
God heard our prayers, and He's merciful. He's given us
a chance. This is a window. But this even links
up to there. There's even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
We may be able to get it at the end,
which is part of where we are right now, right exactly.
I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you,
in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that
is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming. Well,
it's not even coming.

Speaker 6 (01:31:36):
It's here, right, it is here, and we are in it.
It is real. I listen. One of the things I
want to show in the Avatar and in the books
is that this is real. I mean, this is not
this is not feeling. This is real. You can see
the exact dates. You can see that this is real,
real people, real thing, real future. We are in a
war and we have been given a chance. And this
is the moment he told me about what where's this going? Where?

(01:31:59):
Where headache? And what do we need to know? What
does God want you know? It says in the Bible
the sons of Isigard knew the times and what Israel
sha to do? Where to be like the children of Isigard.
We are to know the times? And then what do
we need to do because this is a momentous time,
and this is a critical time can go either way,
and we need to rise to it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:17):
Well. If Bible says Jesus wept, He wept over Jerusalem
because they missed their appointed time right.

Speaker 6 (01:32:23):
And we cannot miss our appointed time.

Speaker 4 (01:32:26):
Got to go to break. We've got more from the
one and only Jonathan Kahn. Stay with us, slaves and gentlemen.

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Glad you could join us and stay with us. You know,
I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as
he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I
tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know,
you just give me goosebumps and holding on end for
the longest time. He didn't quite He just kind of
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crazy Mexican's coming up with something. I don't know where
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(01:36:58):
And that wasn't it. I was about five six years later,
you know, because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything,
and and I go, you know, like chicken skin. You know, okay,
but you know here he's done it to all of us, right,
we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken chicken skin, the
whole bunch of us and we're talking about his new book,
The Avatar from the number one New York Times best
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to change the way you see the world. Jonathan. Uh,
let's uh, let's talk about Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
Okay, yeah, let's take it to another level. I mean,
there's an even deeper mystery. You know, when when Jay
who began his rise to the throne, they sounded they
proclaimed him king, and they sounded trumpets. So here trumpets
were linked to JH. So you got a guy. You
have a man named Trump, which in English means trumpet.
And the thing is that, what's a trumpet? You know,

(01:37:49):
a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's a vessel
in the Bible. It's the vessel I've member. We started
speaking about the trumpet in the nations, the trump sound,
you know, to.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
Get your attention, right, you got to get your attention.

Speaker 6 (01:38:00):
Yes, exactly, and Trump gets your attention. And a trump
trumpet is jarring. It interrupts everything, and so is Trump.
But it's in the Bible. It was a vessel of
the power of God. And an amazing thing. You know.
We spoke about how the mystery of Kamala Harris, she's born.
She was born on a pagan holy day holiday when
all these people are worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump

(01:38:22):
was born on a Friday, which is the Sabbath, which
is a biblical holiday holiday, and all of the world
people are worshiping God. And the thing is on the Sabbath,
there is always an appointed scripture, a word from the
Word of God that is appointed for that particular day.
And that was ushered in by Donald Trump. So when
he was born, what was the scripture? The scripture is

(01:38:45):
God telling Israel to bring forth a vessel. It's about
bringing a vessel into the world, an instrument into the world.
What instrument the trumpet? Literally, he's born. Trump is born.
He Trump comes into the world. While the scripture is
bringing the trump into the world. Okay, and so Trump's
life is all about that. And so think about this

(01:39:06):
bill and that election. You have on one hand a
guy whose name is Trump or Trumpet, and you have
a woman's whose name is Debi or Kamala Debi, which
means goddess. And I told you in the beginning, you know,
when the trumpet sounds, the tradition is the spirits or
the gods have to flee. So you've got this election,
you want to you want to pull away the val
and see really what we were dealing with spiritually a
trumpet and in both our vessels, a trumpet's a vessel

(01:39:29):
and also an avatar is a vessel. So you got
the two there. And so when the trumpet sounds, the
goddess or the avatar is blown away, and that's exactly
what happened. And this is linked to where we are
right now. And in fact, you know, in fact, you
know what I said, like what I said when I
sounded the trumpet in India, that we have this like

(01:39:49):
a mass exorcism in Cuba. It was the image of
a trumpet that took away the crown of the goddess.
So now we see this again. Well, the thing is
not only that there's a mystery behind and we all
we all remember when Trump was almost assassinated. You talk
about spiritual warfare. I mean there was warfare over this.
You know, he was almost killed twice, I mean, and

(01:40:09):
this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but the thing
is that that that I want to bring it to
where we are and what this is all about. Trump
was you know, or let me say, jayhu Jah was
the only king of the Northern Kingdom who the Bible
records was actually anointed. He was anointed with oil by
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(01:40:31):
in the Bible is the anointing of the priests. And
they had a big ceremony and they were anointed to
be able to serve God as there his ministers. And
in order to be anointed, it wasn't just oil, it
was they had to be touched with blood. And so
the blood had to touch the ear of the priest.
The one big annoying. The blood touched the touch. The
blood had to touch the right ear. It touched the

(01:40:53):
right ear of Trump. It had to touch the tip
of the right ear. It touches the tip of the
right ear. And then the blood is to touch the hand.
First thing that Donald Trump do does is he reaches
his hand touches the blood. That the blood had to
touch the right hand. It's his right hand. It had
to touch the thumb. The first thing that comes up
is his right thumb. And now the blood was to

(01:41:13):
touch the feet. Now we can't say because the cameras
didn't catch it. But in order for the blood to
touch the feet, his shoes had to be removed. What
happens is Donald Trump's shoes are removed, They push him
down where the blood went, and he literally is there
without shoes. He calls for his shoes. The priest in
the anointing had to have his shoes removed and minister

(01:41:33):
without his shoes. But not only that, Bill, Notice when
this happened. Notice what happened in the anointing of the priest.
You have a man who's a candidate for the office
of the priesthood. So here we have the candidate for
the office of the presidency. And the thing is, it
was a seven day ceremony. On the seventh day it

(01:41:54):
is sealed, the priest is anointed. Okay, Now, Bill, if
you count on the heat reckoning of time, every day
ends and begins at sunset. So you have the day
that it all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood touches him,
then comes that's the first day. Then comes sundown to sundown,
second day. Keep counting, and when is the seventh day.

(01:42:16):
The seventh day was Thursday night, and that night is
the night that Donald Trump received the nomination to become president.
So the anointing was complete on the seventh day. I mean,
so what it's saying is there is actually a purpose.
And did you notice Bill that after that event, Trump
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(01:42:37):
there's a calling, I'm actually called to do God's will. Well,
there is the priest is actually supposed to bring the
nation to God. Well we've got to pray that that
so that that's going to go into a mystery. Call
that where we are now called the Black Obelisk. If
you want, I can just.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Do a yes, We've got five and a half minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:42:52):
You got it. You got it. There's no object on
planet Earth that has an image of somebody from the
Bible that was actually made when they were alive, except one,
the Black Obelisk, and the Black Novelisk has an image
of somebody from the Bible when that person was love.
You know what? You know who was Jay Who? And
the image is a jay Who bowing down on his knees.

(01:43:13):
And that image never matched something until when Donald Trump
was pushed down on that stage. He was pushed down
and they took a picture. He's on his knees, and
that matches the ancient image of jay Who from two
and a half thousand years ago. And so here is
a message to America. The only way that America is
going to be great again is if America comes to

(01:43:35):
its knees, including Donald Trump, including all of us. You see,
the only thing that can save America is revival. You know,
you know, if we change the government, but we don't
change the people, the unchanged people are going to change
the government back, and those gods are going to return.
We've been watching a massive rolling out back of the gods.
Actually that's the agenda that Donald Trump is rolling back.

(01:43:56):
But we need to replace that with a presence of God.
We have a window that God has given us, and
the window is for revival. If we don't see revival,
we're gone. The only thing you can said. But if
we see revival, God can do something beyond what anything
we imagine. That's the point of Jehu. Jayhu was the
last chance given before. It's either judgment or revival, and

(01:44:17):
we have to go full blast as never before. This
is what the avatar. Why I believe the Lord wrote
me lev me to write the avatar not only to
reveal these mysteries and we just touched on them. There's
so much more. But the ultimate point is that we
are in a window of time. It's crucial. We got
to pray as never before for revival. We got to
actually not just pray. We got to live in revival,
choose revival, work for revival as never before, because that's

(01:44:39):
the only thing that can save America. We were born
for such a time as this, this is the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:44:44):
Well, Jonathan, we have to embrace the pain. And you know,
if we embrace the pain and really realize how bad
it is and how worse it could have been, then
you're drawn to God. The spirit will bring you to God.
So then you see the legitimate versus the illegitimate, and

(01:45:04):
that will cause repentance. Like everything you read in the
Old Testament, it starts with repentance. And yes, you get
to revival, but you can't get to revival until you
realize how how we failed God.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin.
If my people will turn from variable ways, not just
the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes,
you know, That's when blessing comes. You know. So this
this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay
Who's about, This is what the trumpet's all about. This
is what the moment's all about. And we are This
is critical, This is major, This is momentous, This is biblical.

(01:45:41):
But we got a rise to it and be back people.

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and
and people need to hear this.

Speaker 6 (01:45:50):
My people.

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
Okay, there are sanctified designated people that God has set aside.

Speaker 6 (01:45:57):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:45:58):
You know, we talked a little bit earlier ABO about
the remnant, and so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:46:08):
The repentance begins with us, it says in why people,
then you know it's going to begin with us, you know,
so instead of we yes, we got to pray for
America as never before, but we have to realize that
we're part of it too. If we don't, we are
to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's
choose revival to walk and what do we need to do?
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get it together. Let's say today and God will begin.

Speaker 4 (01:46:31):
Yeah. There has to be this sense of immediacy because
time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has
blessed us. He has blessed us with this opportunity. You
and I talked about this the last time. Is that
God is in a sense kind of set time out
on the insanity and the chaos, lest we we would
go nuts and our heads would explode. Johnathan, we got
about a minute and a half left. I'm gonna let

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you summarize and then tell people how they can get
their hands and order your book.

Speaker 6 (01:46:56):
Now, yeah, what this is it? Guys? You know a
lot of you prayed for I wish I could live
in biblical times. Congratulations, you're in biblical times. Now, this
is only biblical and we got a job to do,
you know, So let's rise to it and with our
in our own lives, we can do it. God's gonna
bless you if you say, yes, whatever you gotta do.
There's anything in your life that shouldn't be there, get
it out, anything that's not in your life that should

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be you know it. Don't say tomorrow, Lord, I wanna
start rising today, and then let's pray as and let's
join me. Let's join me and Bill together and all
of us to pray as never before for revival for America.
God have his way with Trump, have his way with
America and the world, and God will answer our prayers
as for that. With the Avatar, we just touched on
some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it. It
is the most explosive I've ever written, and we don't

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even know what's gonna happen when it comes out. This
is what it looks like. This is a mark up company.
If you go online right now, you're gonna see it
and you can get it. You can pre order it.
And if you have people in your life who need
to be touched or need to know or wake up,
get it for them. Okay, but it's the Avatar, it's
the It says the return of the Agents, the future
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Speaker 6 (01:48:05):
It's getting the Gospel around the world. You'll get a
lot of free gifts and for petic updates and I'm everywhere,
I'm on YouTube and all that stuff. There's a lot
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But if it says Johnathan connofficial, you know so, yeah so.
And my books are everywhere, but you go anywhere once,
it's out us everywhere. But you can get it right now.

Speaker 4 (01:48:23):
Well. And the thing is is we touched on earlier, Jonathan.
The great news is the legitimate always pushes out the illegitimate.

Speaker 6 (01:48:30):
Right. I'm holding to that, Bill, Thank you for amen.

Speaker 4 (01:48:34):
Amen, God bless you Jonathan Cohn, Thank you so much.
Congratulations on the book. We can't wait to get our
hands on it. You always are a blessing. Take care
of my friend.

Speaker 6 (01:48:43):
Thank you, Bill, you too.

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