The Bill Martinez Show 01 05 26

The Bill Martinez Show 01 05 26

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yeah, okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program
about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and
our future.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
And now Bill Martinez.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Hey, good morning, welcome, good to have you with us.
Bill Martinez here six minutes after the top of the hour,
and I'm excited to talk with our next guest. What
an incredible story that has been documented in their brand
new book, I've Been to Heaven, the true story of
a husband supernatural near death experience of the afterlife, his
wife's prayer that brought him back, and God's message of

(00:37):
hope for the world. Steve and Kathy Boyle's welcome the show.
Good to have you with us.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Thank you so much for inviting us.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well, great to have your Kathy. I want to make
sure everybod understand she's a doctor. She's an MD, a
real doctor, right, not one that plays a doctor in
any kind of television series. She's actually a doctor. And Steve,
you're accomplished yourself, right is go ahead and tell me
I had it down here.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I'm a software engineer. I've been writing software for about
thirty five years.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, that explains why we had problems connecting, right.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
It wasn't my fault.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Inside joke, ladies, gentlemen, we're having a little bit of
an opportunity here trying to get all connected and to
hear one another, and so it only makes sense that
Steve would be a software engineer and so. But anyway,
eventually we figured it out. It's like I used to
say when I was in broadcasting school, Steve, whenever there
was a troubleshooting situation, we always said that the bailout

(01:37):
answer was there's ant in the court. So it seemed
to work in the classroom, but it's not going to
work anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
But well, for software, we always blamed the hardware.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, of course, yeah, you've got to have an antagonist, right,
that's right. It's what makes the world, it's what makes
a real go around. Well, look at I am so
honored to have you both here to tell your story. Steve,
why don't you started out and tell us you know
what happened, how it all began.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Well, it all kind of started off kind of not
a hope, you know, not a big deal. It was
towards the end of November of twenty twenty one. I
wasn't feeling well and it just kind of kept getting worse.
And worse, it turned out that my wife, daughter, and
myself all ended up getting COVID. We all had in

(02:29):
different ways. I had a really hard time breathing, and
Kathy had a really bad headache, throbbing headache, and she
had a hard time taking care of me. So kind
of decided what might be a good idea to just
take me to the emergency room. See if I could
get some seapap mask in an oxygen for a couple
of days and I'd probably be all right. Well that

(02:49):
started out okay, and then I got into the emergency room.
They wouldn't let Kathy come in for twenty days to
even get near me, And after being there for about
four or five, they basically all I got to drink
for food was little insures, which aren't really very good.
Sorry for any Insure stockholders, but it's not a good problem,

(03:10):
and you know, and then then they decided I needed
to be put on a ventilator and I was gett
kind of desperate to go home, to be honest with you,
because I kepn't think I'm starting to feel better. Why
can't I just go home? And they decided, way, you
could go home after we put you on a ventilator
for you know, seven to eight days, and then you'll
be real good and you can go home. So I

(03:31):
took the bait and said, okay, I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
And was Kathy involved in this conversation and in this decision.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
No, because she wasn't allowed to be there, and all
I could do was try to text her, and I
just kind of felt at the time that I was okay.
But I know she would have probably said no, no, no,
no no, but I didn't have that. I didn't have
her with me to really emphasize how no that was right.

(03:59):
So anyway, I I said okay, they put me on
the on the ventilator and I was in a medically
induced coma for about three weeks, a little over three weeks,
three and a half weeks, something like that.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Oh my god, that's that's a great Kathy. You know,
we talked about it in the show early on during
COVID as it was coming out, and it was just
heartbreaking to think of the families that could not see
their loved ones as they were going through this. I mean,
this is just absolutely horrific and nothing I don't I
don't know we ever experienced anything like this. In the
history of America that you know, this kind of quarantine

(04:32):
and this kind of reaction and all that was going on.
What was going through your mind is this was happening
me and your husband is going on. You're just praying
and you know, trying to make sense of something that
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Well, you know, that twenty day rule was really an
arbitrary decision that a committee in the hospital made that
would not allow me to go and see my husband
for that period of time. Even though as a physician
I could go and see any patient I wanted to,
I could not go into the icee you and see
my husband. And so we did go through a lot
of almost ridiculous things like that. But I knew that

(05:10):
I did need to abide by their rules so that
there would be no bad consequences to my husband.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
So my or your license, you know, as a position.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
I obeyed all their rules. My recourse, of course, was
to go to God, and that was something I knew
how to do, thank God and the power of the
Word of God, and so that's where I went to
get my help.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, it's kind of amazing because I instance, in the
position I was in, I was doing doing a deep
dive on COVID and trying to figure out, you know,
what was going on, particularly with the ventilator when I'd
heard that you were on a ventilator, and Kathy, you
might verify this as the doctors have told me that
only a third of the people who go on a
ventilator actually come off it, and so here you are

(06:02):
odds against you, you know, to survive being ventilated, especially
during COVID, with everything, because it seemed like we were
incentivizing all the wrong things. If I can say.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
That that's correct, it's really during COVID, less than a
third that survived being on a ventilator. Most of them died.
Most Yes, it was just an awful time. And so
you know, from my perspective, my profession failed me. And

(06:35):
I really knew that I could go to God and
he would be the one that would help me in
this situation, and he did.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Let me ask you this, I mean post COVID here
now as a doctor, you say your profession failed you
did we learn from it? Is the profession reconciled to
where they will not fail you again?

Speaker 5 (07:00):
I I don't think so, not yet. Yes, I hope
for the future, but I think we have a lot
to learn still, yes, and you know, doctors are not God,
and doctors are not to be just obeyed as though
you would just obey, you know, commanding officer if you

(07:23):
were in the military. You know, we have to take
everything and critically think about it, every piece of advice
as well as pray about it, and hey, is this
the right thing to do? It is an opinion, So
we all have opinions. Doctors have an opinion based on

(07:48):
information they've learned, but they don't always know everything obviously.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So you have to especially with COVID, because so so
much was kept from them. Kathy, right, right, right right.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
And then you know a lot of the physicians were
just in fear of losing jobs or licenses and things
of that nature, because many of them did who kind
of stood up and had a different message. And so
when you have a family to support and you have
a lot of things going on in your life, you

(08:23):
really don't want to make waves because it could go
really poorly for you.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, so, Steve, you're in this induced coma for three weeks,
and so something supernatural happens to you.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, well, I was on the I was in the
coma for three weeks, but I was on the ventilator
for forty five days. I just get that out there.
Oh wow, okay, So but anyway, so I'm in this coma,
and you know your spirit man never sleeps. Your body
can go to sleep, your mind can take a rest,
but you know your spirit man never never sleeps. It's
away twenty four to seven. So I'm in this comment

(09:01):
and this angel appears to me and I received with
my spirit man, and I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
I'll tell you what. We gotta go to quick break.
Let's pick it up. We're going to leave everybody as
a cliffhanger, as they say, We're gonna let them hang
on the cliff here for a second as we take
a quick break, and we'll be right back with Steve
and Kathy Boyle. Stay with us.

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Speaker 1 (13:53):
Back with you promised nineteen minutes after the top of
the hour, Bill Martinez here with doctor Kathy Boyles and
Steve Boyles. Kathy is a physician and Steve is an
IT professional. And as he was saying right before the
break is the spirit man is always awake, and you
have an encounter with an angel.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I have an angel that comes to me and he'st
the Hello Steve, my name is Marzuka. You spelled that
m A r z Uka, And I take you to
heaven for a little while while your body heels.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
He even spelled his name out for you.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
He even spilled his name out for me.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I love these eight I love these angels and no spelling.
That's great. Yeah, give you give you such a comfort,
doesn't it. Kathy?

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Well, you know I knew when he first told me.
I thought, well, that's really weird. And then I realized, well,
you know what, Steve is not really good at spelling,
and so this has to be real because he wouldn't
have spells me out like that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, exactly. So did you ever find out what Marzuka meant,
by the way, just sidebar?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Well, actually I did. Yes, means it means the blessed
by God or one who God.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Okay, very good. Okay, So he says, come with.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Me, He said, come with me. I'm taking you to
heaven for a little while while your body heels. So
I figure I have nothing else to do, so sure,
let's go to heaven. So pretty much within you know,
pretty quick we were in heaven. I saw a lot
of stuff. You know, your spiritualized have a much broader view,
a spectrum of light that they can see than your

(15:24):
natural lives. And so I saw some amazing sights going
through the atmosphere up to Heaven.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
Did you travel first class? Did the angel at least
take your first class?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
He was right next to me, so yeah, probably, yeah, right.
So anyway, I get to Heaven really quick, and it's
an amazing place. I was just absorbing everything that I encountered.
And so you know, the grass. We landed on this
grass which was like amazingly fluffy and soft, and you

(15:55):
would step on it in the spring right back up.
You weren't going to be able to stomp it down.
Why you would, but it was very soft. And if
you ever slept in heaven, there's no sleeping really, but
if you did sleep, you could sleep on the grass
and it would be better than probably your softest mattress
here on earth. But it was just an amazing sigh.
There was so many different colors, and the atmosphere was

(16:17):
just so much There was so much peace, there was security,
There was just love. I mean, you could just since
you were loved just standing there, you know. So we
went in and I had to put things in human
terms so people can kind of understand what I'm saying.
It's a little to a place that all described as
a welcome center, and the guy behind this really ornate

(16:39):
wooden type desk very nicely carved, said hello, Steve, Welcome
to Heaven. Marzuka is going to be your guide while
you're here, and he's going to show you the things
that you need to see, and so On the wall
of this building were scenes that I eventually ended up
going to, kind of like you go to a travel

(17:00):
center and you would see the Colisseum or the Eiffel Tower.
Sometimes these were scenes in Heaven that I would eventually visit.
I didn't realize that at the time when I saw them,
but I started going to these sites, I realized, oh,
that was on the wall. That was one of those
scenes on the wall exactly. So one of the first
places we went to was a big meadow that had

(17:22):
a beautiful meadow with the same type of grass, had
huge patches of these multicolored flowers. And when I say multicolored,
I mean the leaves themselves were multi colored. They had
like woven, swirling colors mixed in with each other.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
And I gotta imagine very dynamic right. Oh, the colors
like you've never seen before.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oh yeah, because you see it, you're seeing a broader
spectrum of colors there in heaven with your spiritual eyes.
And then the aroma from the fragrance from the flowers
was amazing again, that same fluffy, beautiful grass, huge trees
that were I later found out were like mustard trees.

(18:04):
You know your faith grows from a seed of the
size of the brain of mustard. Well, those trees there's
seeds grow into huge trees. And there was birds flying
in and out of the trees. One of the first
things I saw was all the dogs that we had
had had had died when they were old. We took
good care of but they just get old, you know.

(18:24):
And so I saw they were in a group. There
were like eight of them, and they were all running
towards me.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
They like all your all your dogs, all the dogs
all the wow never had when we were married, and
even one of my dogs that we that I had previously.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
But they were all in amazing shape. They all looked fluffy,
pretty hair, They were all friendly. One of the dogs
we had had one eye, had walked with a limp.
He kind of wandered into our garage one really hot
summer day and just kind of plopped down in our
garage and stayed there. Yeah, we just kind of kept him.

(19:00):
He didn't have a chip or a tag or anything
like that, so he looked beautiful. He had two two eyes,
a beautiful coat, didn't have any scars or limps, ran red,
and the other dogs that. Everybody was in perfect shape.
I saw relatives. I saw my niece who looked beautiful,
my brother who I hadn't seen in thirty years. Everybody

(19:23):
looked like they were in like their mid twenties, maybe
thirty at the max his age. Everybody that was healthy.
Everybody looked wonderful. Everyone just was. It was great to
see everybody. I mean. And when I hugged them, it
was a solid hug. It wasn't no whispy thing. It
was like, you know, hugging your wife or hugging you're
you know, a good friend.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
As if you were still in this earthly dimension.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Right, exactly, Yeah, except it was more real than earth.
I know that's hard to understand and explain, but it's
more real.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yeah. Well, Kathy is as Steve has been telling you this,
and as a physician, and I know that it's been tough,
particularly whenever we talk about NDEs near death experiences as
they've been defined as particularly in the medical field, it's
a challenge for some doctors to get their brains around
something as mystical and supernatural as a near death experience.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Right, that's right, And that's because if the physician really
doesn't believe that there's anything more than what we have
in this life, then they really have no framework to
put stories like that into context. But for someone who
believes in God, and especially if they know Jesus, they

(20:38):
are going to have a totally different mindset, a totally
different frame of mind, and be open to Wow, there
is life beyond this life. After we die, we do
have a place to go. So it really depends on
the person in their mindset.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Right as Steve was relating this to you, were there
are particular things that stood out that you had to
realize that this was supernatural Because Steve was conveying experiences
and things that the only way he could know him
was because he was in heaven. That maybe that both
of you were not aware of here on earth.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Oh, I certainly wasn't aware of what he was going through.
It was the horribleness that we were going through in
the ICU. So he remembered his journey to heaven really
when he was in the hospital three and a half months,
and so he was in three different hospitals, so he

(21:40):
was in the ICU and intermediate care facility and then
a rehab hospital. So it wasn't until shortly before he
came home from the rehab hospital that he started having
all of these memories just flood back into him. And
so he didn't initially share it with me because you

(22:01):
want me to think he was crazy and so.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
More than normal, right, Steve, Right, So.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
You know, I mean, I do have a scientific mind,
and so I, you know, know how to judge things.
And then I know my husband, and you know, it's
interesting because before all of this, he was never interested
in near death experiences. When my mom died in twenty eighteen,
I read all kind of books about heaven and near

(22:30):
death experiences and all of this stuff. There are physicians
who've written books about it, and I just absorbed all
of it. And every time I read one, I handed
to him and he goes nap. Don't wantry that I'm
not interested in that? You know, so every single time,
never did he read anybody else's story, and so it

(22:51):
was really amazing to me that he said, hey, I
had something happened to me when I was on that
Milla later in a coma, and then he started telling
me about the angel and about all of these things
that he saw in heaven, and it was really amazing.
We have so much detail in the book. The Lord

(23:11):
allowed him to see so many things exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Well, do you have time? Can you stay with me
a little bit longer? I want to get in more
detail of this. This is just so precious. I mean,
you know, Kathy just referenced the book I've Been to Heaven.
This is the true story of a husband's supernatural near
death experience of the afterlife, his wife's prayer that brought
him back in God's message of hope for the world.

(23:38):
And we're visiting with the authors as Steve and Kathy Boyles.
She's a doctor, he's an IT professional, and of course
it was also co written with my dear friend Troy Anderson,
who is just an incredible blessing. As you know. Obviously, anyway,
we'll go to quick break, we'll continue right after this.
Stay with us.

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Speaker 4 (27:33):
Hey, we're back with it.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Thanks for staying with with a story.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I've Been to Heaven.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
It's the story of Steve and Kathy Boyle's. She's a doctor,
he's an IT professional. And this book is incredible. It's
a true story of a husband's supernatural near death experience. Steve. So,
I mean, here you are, and you're in this coma
and you're in heaven. The angel is taking you to heaven.

(27:59):
You're star to see things and you even I mean
you're seeing dogs, you know, past dogs, And I mean
you say that really touches me because I mean, who
doesn't love dogs? And everybody wonders, hey, have all dogs,
haven't I think even the good and the bad ones,
I think they all go to heaven. I think I
don't know, it's just my heart, that's just yeah, God,

(28:20):
you know what I mean, Because there's a reason even
when they're bad. There's a reason why. You know, God's
trying to teach us something even through their badness. But anyway,
that aside, but you mentioned you were reunited with loved ones,
including your son who was miscarried.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
What was that what was this like, Oh, that was
pretty amazing. It was a little bit shocking, to be
honest with you, because it was it was something I
hadn't thought about in since it happened, which had been
you know, twenty years or so previously. And so Marzuka,
who I've actually found out is my guardian angel, and

(28:57):
he with me since I was conceived. We were walking
across his field and this little boy walks up to
me and he says, he goes, Hi, my name is Daniel.
I think you're my dad. I'm like, whoa, And so I'm.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
I kind of now how how old was he?

Speaker 13 (29:17):
You know?

Speaker 4 (29:17):
It looked like he was like five or six.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Oh, five or six Okay, it.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
Looked like he was five or six. Okay, but he
was pretty sharp for a five or six year old,
because he doesn't have all the corruption that you get
here on Earth, I guess.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
But and of course you said you take after your
mother's son.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, well I could tell he had a mix of
By looking at him, I could tell he had features
from both of us, Yes, right, but the good looking
features probably came from her.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
But I was talking about his mind.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah, well yeah, probably not too Yeah. So anyway, he said, yeah.
I said, well, you know, we were going to have
a little baby. I said, my wife thought it was
going to be a little and she was gonna name
him Daniel. And he says, I've been here since I
was really little, and he goes, I was raised in
a place with a bunch of other little babies, and

(30:10):
he said that. I well, I said that, well, you know,
your mom would really love to see you because and
she's really pretty, and he goes, yeah, I know I've
seen her. Oh wow, So I know that was pretty amazing.
When I told Kathy about that, she was really excited
to know that, you know, he's there and all those

(30:31):
anyone who's lost a baby, those babies are there waiting
for you. So you just need to make sure you
know Jesus and go to heaven and be with them.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, you know, you think about it. You know, Kathy,
how tough it is. In course, this is a personal
issue when you miscarry, and then to realize that, yes,
in fact, I was just speaking with a dear friend
and she had five miscarriages. And I don't know why
I said this, I just maybe the Holy Spirit had
had prompted me to do so. And I had this

(31:03):
sense of assurance that I was supposed to tell her
that those babies are waiting for you in heaven and
and and the comfort that it gave her. And she goes,
do you think so? And I said, I, you know,
I really do, and I think it's it's more than
I think. I just have this this sense, this confirmation
that God is giving me right now that that's the case.
And I know what Steve and you are sharing right

(31:25):
now is important because how many miscarriages, you know, do
we have every year that women uh you know, deal
with and they and they carry this this is with
them forever because it's in their nature to nurture, right.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Yes, absolutely, And I would encourage those women to actually
name their child. You know, I was only four or
five weeks pregnant, so I didn't know for sure if
it was a boy or a girl. But I just
prayed and asked the Lord, and I just felt like
it was a boy. So Daniel was my favorite Bible character,
so I named him Daniel. And when and Steve told

(32:01):
me that, I was just shocked. And for a long
time I'd make him tell me this story over and over.
Kenn and I would do right because you know, and
I also want to add, you know, even if a
woman has lost a baby through abortion, God's grace brings forgiveness,
and so those babies are still waiting for you in

(32:22):
heaven if the baby was aborted, and that child will
find you and you have an incredible reunion.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
You imagine, because you know what I hear often, you know,
from women particularly and now an increasing number of men's
Steve who when they realize the reality of what abortion,
what abortion did, and that you know, because the doctors
have misrepresented and said, oh, well, it's just like you know,

(32:50):
if it's an abortive patient, uh, you know pill that
they take, Well, it's just like taking Tayland all. And
you know, they just really negate the humanity of what
is growing inside of them and God's workmanship that is
being demonstrated within their body. And women will say, Bill,

(33:14):
you know, my child would have been eight years old today,
or they would have been sixteen. I remember I was in
Los Angeles and I was interviewing a producer of an
abortion movie, and I was looking at my notes and
I wasn't really paying attention to his face, but we
were talking about abortion. Was the movie was about abortion,
and we were talking about it, and I relate to
him about what women say to me anecdotally about their

(33:37):
children and how their heart continues to ache for that child,
and you know, and I looked up and tears were
rolling down his face and he said, Bill, my son
would have been eighteen. And you know that is such
a personal and profound connection. And only God, only God,

(33:58):
our God, would uh would do this, would reunite us
with with our children, regardless of the mistake, regardless of
the condition. As you say, Kathy, so appropriately, we can
be so grateful for God's.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Grace, right, Yes, that's right.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, Well, Steve, uh, you saw a baseball game in heaven?

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Huh?

Speaker 14 (34:22):
Was it?

Speaker 15 (34:23):
Was? It?

Speaker 1 (34:23):
The Angels and the Dodgers? I mean, what, what? What
teams were?

Speaker 4 (34:28):
You know, I know it's really I know it's kind
of crazy sounding, but it was just it was. It
was a baseball game in heaven. The fact, when I
first met my brother, I asked him what he did
and he says, oh, I go to apostle Paul's Bible studies,
I go to baseball games. And I say baseball games,
and he goes, yeah, there's baseball in heaven.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
Well, so we no waven. Now way we fast forward
on me. We're talking about you mentioned you saw your
brother in heaven too. Yes, I saw your death experience. Okay,
all right, because we're talking about the sun and now
you shift to the brother. I just want to make
sure I don't want to leave them behind here, Okay.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
So I tried to set up the baseball game because
so anyway, so Marzukas says, I got a treat for you.
So we started going to this huge stadium that I
saw well, and I got to say, there's probably other
sports in heaven, because I think all good ideas come
from God, and so I think baseball was one of them.
So we got to go to a baseball game. The

(35:21):
bases were made of gold. The the you know, nobody
got hurt in heaven, so the umpires and the uh
catchers didn't have to wear protective clothing or anything like that.
And the pitchers the physics is a little different in
heaven because the pitchers get throw like a quark screw pitch.
That okay, that was and it was very hard to hit.

(35:45):
I don't know the rules, I mean, because I would
think they'd throw that like every pitch. But you know,
maybe there's a rule on how many times they can
throw it in an inning or something like that.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
But yeah, because if you break the rules, then man,
you're you're going. You're going below that said, you're out
of here. You're not even thrown out of the game.
You're putting your foot down way down below the dugout.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Okay, you get translated to a place probably you don't
want to be, but anyway, No, it's an amazing game. It was.
It was fun. Everybody. Everybody cheered for each other. I mean,
both teams played for each other because they know it's
just a game and having fun. And it was so enjoyable.
There was thousands and thousands and thousands of people in

(36:27):
this stadium watching this game, and you know.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
With peanuts and crackerjacks and hot dogs.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Well I didn't eat anything, and I don't know what
they were particularly eating because I didn't recognize it, but
I'm sure it was good. And then there was an
amazing kind of like a light show afterwards. It's kind
of like similar to fireworks, except with uh, you know,
God's got ways that he can create lights and all

(36:55):
kinds of stuff in heaven, so it was just really incredible.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Well, and you say everything is so magnified, all the
colors and everything like that. Oh yeah, could you imagine
God putting on a firework show?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Who oh, you know, even the best ones I've seen
here on earth don't compare even come close to comparing
to that.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Not even that's great. Another quick break, if you can
hang in there with us for twelve more minutes, is
that okay?

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Okay. We're talking with Steven Kathy Boyles. He's an IT professional,
she is a physician, and we're talking about their new book,
I've Been to Heaven. Stay with us. We got more
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Speaker 1 (41:35):
Hey, we're back with you. I'm so I'm so honored
to be talking with Stephen Kathy Boyles and that they've
given us this much time to be able to, you know,
spend some time. And I kind of suspected this, Steve,
when I was reading the book. I said, this may
not be a typical, you know, twenty minute interview. We
might need to spend some more time. So I appreciate
you extending grace and being patient with me because I

(41:59):
know our audience is glued to your story. Here. It's
all in the book, by the way, so you can
read the book because we're not there's no way, even
in this extended period of time can we get to it.

Speaker 8 (42:10):
All.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
The book is I've Been to Heaven, a true story
of a husband's supernatural near death experience of the afterlife,
his wife's prayer that brought him back, and God's message
of hope for the world. So you're a baseball game,
everybody's having fun, interesting supernatural pitches, nobody's throwing the ump

(42:30):
out of the game. Everybody's happy and they're enjoying the
purity of baseball.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Right, yes, exactly, Yeah, And it was just it was
an amazing experience because also I got to sit there
with my brother and my son, So Daniel, my son,
and my brother, we were all sitting right next to
each other in this game. We were getting we were
talking about the game, and it was just it was
so it was so real and so fun and just

(42:57):
you know, I can't wait to see another game.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Well, I bet.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have to see one tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Right, yeah, yeah, this near death experience is enough, you know,
for a little bit. But although I'm sure when you
go through something like that, uh, you know, there's this
desire I got to imagine. I mean, you know, here
you are, You're you're meeting up with your son, You're
seeing your brother again. Uh, let's talk about more experiences.
I mean, you actually, Steve, you see Jesus.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
I did.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
I got to see Jesus.

Speaker 14 (43:31):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
One of the last places Marzuka took me in our
my tour of heaven or I got to go to
the Throne room, and it was it was that was
obviously like the most amazing experience of going to heaven,
because the Throne room was just amazing.

Speaker 14 (43:49):
It was.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
It is beautiful, it's it's elaborate, it's you know, it's
something that you could just imagine God would would have created.
It's there's like gold inside the the throne room. There's
there's a huge rainbow behind. Let me kind of start
over again. There's a big there's this kind of a
platform that there there are two thrones and Jesus is

(44:14):
on one and God is the Father is on the
other one. And God was light. It was just a
bright light. And Psalms one O four says that God
closed himself in light, and so people can look that up.
So anyway, so I saw this light and it was
and it didn't hurt my eyes to look at him.
But when he spoke, he it thundered, it thundered, but

(44:37):
I could understand what he was saying. And he said,
welcome to Heaven. Steve.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Then we walked did you did you have a fearful
response at that point because most people who have come
in contact with God, you know, we read in the
Old Testament, whether it's Isaiah or other prophets, when they
come in contact with God, it's just so awesome that
it's a it creates a sense of fear, but I
guess you're in heaven, so there's no fear there in heaven, right.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
No, In fact, it was just the opposite. I felt
so much love and protection and just just acceptance. In fact,
I can tell you a little story at the very end,
but you know, I just felt it was amazing. I
there's like no other place you'd want to be, actually, right,
just because the presence of the Lord there just it
just wraps around you.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
But yeah, second, I want to want to ask Kathy
this and get her insight on this. Kathy, you know,
and we referenced some scripture here God welcomes us into
the throne room because of Jesus' sacrifice for us. Right,
So Steve's telling you this, and this is just right,
reconfirming everything you've been reading and studying most of your life.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Right, that's exactly right, you know, And we don't have
to worry about not being worthy if we know Jesus.
He is the one that made the way for us
to go to heaven and to be part of God's family,
and heaven is an amazing place and we will get
to see him if we know Jesus.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Amen, amen, and he says, as you said, Steve, we're
welcomed into that Throne room to find grace and mercy
in that time of need because of the sacrifice of
our Lord and Savior.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
Right, well, let me just mention this real quick, because
when I walked in with Marzuka, he melt down, he
bowed his head, and he pushed me forward with his
hand on my back. So I went forward and I
had my encounter with Jesus, which was amazing. And then
when I left, I asked Barzuk. I said, why did
you leave or why did you kneel down? And why
did you push me forward? He said, he said, the

(46:33):
Lord is my master, and I serve him, so I
bow to him. He said, But you are his family.
You are covered by his blood, and you are accepted,
so you can go boldly into the Oh wow, and
you can walk across him and you don't have to
grovel and you don't have to crawl to him because
he loves you and you are his family.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Is that incredible, Kathy, I mean put that in perspective, right.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
That's amazing. When he was experiencing in the Throne room,
I was experiencing in prayer because I was going daily
to the Throne room in prayer and putting my petitions
before the Lord and believing what God had promised us
in his words. So yes, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Well, all right, so now it's time, you know, for
you to leave the Throne room and Marzuka ushers you out.
Where's your next stop?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Well, Marzuk, we left the Throne room in Marzuka was
telling me, he said like, well, I need to get
you back to your body because you're going to be
waking up really soon and Kathy's going to be sitting there.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Waiting for you.

Speaker 4 (47:36):
Oh. Kind of the next thing I remember is I
wake up and Kathy's sitting there waiting for me, and
kind of kind of wishing I was probably back in
heaven at that point in time. But at that point
in time, I really hadn't remembered anything yet. But all
I do is I woke up and really realized what

(47:57):
bad shape I was in because I'm still in this
hospital and now I'm on a ventilator. I can't talk.
I couldn't talk for like two months, which drives you
crazy because you just anything you can't communicate with anybody, right.
I felt terrible anyway, So.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Well, I'll tell you what. I kind of sped up
a little bit, but I wanted to also focus on
and forgive me for skipping this because this is actually
key and that is the message that Jesus gave you
before you left.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
Yes, yes, so I had seen a few things in
heaven and Jesus asked me if I saw him, and
he told me, yes, I saw him, but he said,
he said, I'm basically he put his hands on my
shoulders and he says, I have work for you to do,
and I'm going to tell you what it is at
the right time. And so that's one of the reasons
I came back is because Jesus had more work for

(48:51):
me to do. And I really believe a lot of
that has to do now with just being able to
share my experience, because you know, the world is in
such crazy shape right now. So many things are happening
almost on a daily basis. You can't keep up with it.
And we really need to focus on our eternal destiny
and our eternal home as opposed to keeping our eyes

(49:11):
and worrying about everything that's going on on earth. We
can't control the stuff on earth, but we can sure
control our destiny and go into heaven and keeping our
eye on Jesus.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, because all this stuff on earth is vaporing, right, Kathy,
That's right.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
You know. I think part of our message is just
that when you face a crisis situation like we faced
in Steve's being in the ICU for such a long
time with a very very slim chance of survival, I
think people need to know that God is there, He
still answers prayer, he still does miracles, because Steve is

(49:46):
a walking, talking miracle now, so it is amazing what
his power can do. And you know, that's one of
the things that we've got as a message in the book.
At the end of the book is an appendix with
all of the healing scriptures that I spoke over Steve
while he was in that hospital room.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Yeah, exactly. Well, and Jesus gave you a mission to
be a messenger of hope. And just as other prophets
before Jesus came the first time, they were very hopeful,
and they received messages from God to you know, to
present to people to carry that hope forward. And and

(50:28):
and here you are as a messenger of hope, not
for Jesus' first coming, but for a second coming. He's
coming and soon, right.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Yes, amen, that's what he told you. Very soon, actually
he said very soon. So yeah, you can just figure
that out by looking at the world today in the
shape and sin.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Well, he did give us the signs that we could
look for, and you look at it. I have said
ever since Israel became a nation again, it's as if
you know, the hour hand on God's prophetic clock was set,
and what's passing now or minutes and seconds? And each
minute that passes by, as you say, Steve, is that
another occurrence, another indication of Jesus's second coming. I love

(51:13):
what Billy Graham said when he was asked if we
were living in the last days. He goes, oh, yeah,
these are the last of the last days.

Speaker 8 (51:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
I would almost say we're living in the last hours.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yeah, yeah, we're getting down to it right yeah. So yeah,
because again, as I mentioned early on, when I'm in
studying the Book of Bacup right now, you know, the
prophet is frustrated because saying, God, how long you know?
And here we are as you as you said, the craziness,
the chaos that's happening in our country. And these problems
are not going to be solved by governments. They're not

(51:47):
going to be solved by any one political personality. It
has to be God himself that's got to come in
and bring, you know, bring the solution to the madness
that we find ourselves in. And those, Kathy, as you indicated,
those that are away from God are feeling and experiencing

(52:08):
the madness more profoundly as opposed to those whose hope
is anchored in God.

Speaker 9 (52:12):
Right.

Speaker 5 (52:13):
Yes, I don't know how anyone can can really survive
today without knowing the Lord. I mean, just to think
that this is it, this is just this life. And
you know, we face so many bad situations, We have
so many challenges and then occasionally a horrible crisis. And
so I really want to encourage people to seek God

(52:38):
and know Him and know Jesus because he has an
incredibly great life for you here on this earth and
then amazing eternity.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Well, Steve, as we wrap things up, I'm gonna give
you almost the final word here. What do you want
to leave our audience with?

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Well, you know, one of the times in the hospital
I almost died, I actually die, I almost died about
five or six times, the most. The biggest one was,
you know, I was almost They had taken me off Fitnil.
I had been on fitnil for a long time and
they got it off cold Turkey, and I really felt
like I was dying, and you know, I was like

(53:19):
near death and the uh, this black cloud was coming
over me and I and I thought to myself, Wow,
I could I could die. And I heard an audible
voice that said, keep your eye on me. And I
knew that was the voice of the Lord telling me
to take my mind off my problems and put my
thoughts on him. So I did, and I started praising
him and worshiping him in my in my brain because

(53:42):
I couldn't do anything else. And uh, you know, so
that's that's almost my motto now, is just to keep
your eye on Jesus because he's the only one that's
going to get you out of your troubles. The world
one of these days is going to try to put
their faith in a man whose claims he can solve
all their problems, and that's going to be the worst
decision to make. So it's it's better to just, you know,

(54:04):
go with Jesus, just commit yourself to Jesus and.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I love that. Keep your eyes on him, right, Kathy, Yes, absolutely.
Stephen Kathy Boyle's Kathy, as we've been saying, is a doctor.
Steve is an IT professional.

Speaker 9 (54:18):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
They co authored the story with our good friend Troy Anderson.
I've been to Heaven the true story of a husband's
supernatural and their death experience of the afterlife. His wife's
prayer that is appendix at the end of the book. Uh,
you know, prayers of healing and then it's just very
very powerful. I love what you did there, Kathy, and
including that it's her prayers that brought him back in

(54:41):
God's message of hope for the world. Stephen, Cathy, thank
you so much. God bless you.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Thank you, thank you so much. We appreciate the opportunity.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Thank you.

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Speaker 1 (56:02):
Hey, good morning, six minutes after top the Hour, Bill
Martinez here with my good friend Jeff Crueer, Huisiana's chosen one.
Hey Jeff, how you doing, buddy, Bill, great to be with.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
Merry Christmas to you and my friend to you, and
a Christmas and happy New Year.

Speaker 14 (56:15):
Hey it is uh.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I'll tell you there's so much to look forward to.
It's no wonder the Democrats are just absolutely losing their
skulls because they have nothing to offer. But just emotion.
I mean, they talk about affordability, but they're the ones
that cause the affordability crisis to begin with.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
Well that I just laugh about affordability because you know,
under Joe Biden, we had nine percent inflation. I mean,
we had triple the interest rates that Donald Trump had.
I mean, that's not affordable, right right. We had millions
of people coming in here, taking jobs and housing away
from Americans. That's not affordable. So Trump comes in secures
the border, brings DAN, interest rates, brings DAN inflation. Interest

(56:57):
rates are going to come down more with a new
Federal Reserve chair. Gas prices are in a five year low. Bill.
We've got we're heading toward affordability, but we got to
get time for the tax cuts to hit January one.
More progress will be coming in twenty twenty six Bill.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
And just think how much better off we would have
been if Elon Musk would would have been allowed to
do you know, the affordability doze ACKed, you know, in
vacating billions of dollars to fraud and waist Jeff.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing, Bill, we had
a man who was giving up probably billions of dollars
to serve the public, and they ran him out. They
treated him like trash. They burned down his dealerships and
harassed as Tesla owners. So you know, he gave us
a few months, he left, and then you know, Doze

(57:47):
unfortunately hasn't lived up to the vision a lot of
us had for it. But they did save us a
few hundred billion dollars, so you know, and there's still
some remnants working in different departments, So I hope they'll
have success moving forward with that.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
You see.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
But in the big picture of things, I've always been
a big picture kind of guy. I look at all
the contributing factors, not just immigration, not just this, but
you got to look at the source itself. The mothership
itself is compromised with fraud and waste, and that's clear.
And what Doge and Elon Musk had pointed out was
the tip of the iceberg. But look what happened. Boy,

(58:23):
They just like you said, they ran him out of town.
And why they run him out of town because a
lot of that fraud and waste is connected to politicians.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
You're exactly right, usaid, we can go down the list,
and these politicians didn't want their little scams revealed didn't
want their extra income being stopped. And you know, they
really did a great service in exposing a lot of that.
But it shows you what we're up against, Bill, when
we we're up against a deep state that is very

(58:52):
powerful and they can even you know, impact a guy
like Elon Musk. I saw an interview recently where he
says he needs incredible so security and has death threats constantly,
and a lot of that is because of the work
he did at Dose. I mean, prior to that, people were,
you know, very complimentary about Elon Musk. Then the fact
they found out he's a Republican and he was cutting government,

(59:15):
they hated him.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Yeah, exactly, how quick Well you know Donald Trump's story too, right,
Donald Trump, when all the Democrats were going to his
office and begging for money and whatever, and as soon
as he decided to run and then worse yet, run
as a Republican, Oh my gosh. I mean, I'll tell you, you know,
Donald Trump is the gift that keeps on giving, Jeff
and and we don't deserve it as a country, We

(59:38):
really don't. I mean, what this man has given up.
You know, you talk about loss of billions of dollars
almost his life, the threats on his family that has
gone on and on. I mean, why this guy just
doesn't say, hey, shove it. You know, you can take
this job and shove it. I don't need this stuff
and go off and you know, just go from one
of his hotels to another, play golf and enjoy the

(01:00:00):
rest of his life. But you know, God bless him
for the commitment that he's had on behalf of America
to write the ship here. And I hope that people
are starting to see, you know, what's going on, because
there's no doubt, like you said, the resistance is well established.
The deep state and regardless of what Jerry Nadler says,
there's no such thing as the deep state. The Democrats,

(01:00:23):
you know, they're I guess lack of a grasp of reality,
even like the other you know, congress congressman has said that, uh,
anarch you know, a narco terrorism doesn't exist. I mean,
what does exist? Well, maybe Santa Claus, Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:00:40):
I'll tell you. I'll tell you this. We are blessed.
We are so blessed, as you said, to have a
man that's going to sacrifice everything, Uh maybe and put
his life on the line. Uh, and then his wife Milanya,
the family. I mean, we're just blessed to have those
people doing what they're doing for our country. Uh. This
this left wing is so he is so dangerous, so

(01:01:01):
out of control that you know, I'm very worried if
they would ever get power again, Bill, as to what
they might do to people like you and me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
We saw we saw it under Joe Biden. Yeah, you know,
and and Uh, I mean we were all canceled, Jeff
incomes were altered dramatically. I mean I had, Uh, I
think we lost about over seventy percent of our business
when when Biden got elected because he had ignited so much,
and everybody became anti conservative, anti family, anti faith. Of course,

(01:01:33):
that's that's our wheelhouse. So we got ran over, backed up,
and ran over about three more times.

Speaker 7 (01:01:39):
And that's just a little foreshadowing of what's to come.
I mean, let's not forget. You know, Biden was really
the third term of Barack Obama. Biden was worse than Obama.
Obama was bad, but then it became worse when when
Biden was in there during his four years and then
the next time the Democrats come in it'll get it'll
get even worse because you know they're moving to the left.

(01:02:02):
They've said goodbye to the blue dog Democrats and the moderates.
And you know, there couldn't be a JFK today on
the Democrats side. There couldn't even be a Bill Clinton
on the Democrats side today. I mean he he worked
with Gingrich. They balanced the budget, they had welfare reform,
they had capitol against tax cuts. I mean, that's not
them On to the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Well, Nuke Gingrich saved his presidency. If the truth be known,
I mean without new Gingrich, you wouldn't be talking with
any kind of laudation of one Bill Clinton. Everybody would
remember the blue dress and that's it, and let's not
talk about balanced budgets or anything else. He gets the
credit for it because he's the president. He should, right,
but I'll tell you he should be building a statue

(01:02:46):
and have holy water running out the left ear of
Newt Gingrich and that should be right in his living room.

Speaker 7 (01:02:51):
You know you're right about that. I mean, new Gingrids
did really save him and gave him really a second term,
and you know he won handily in the second term.
You know, they work together because Gingrich's got in there
in ninety four, they got some things done in those
two years. He got himself re elected in ninety six
overwhelmingly because exactly of the work they did with the

(01:03:12):
Republicans and all that is impossible. Now these Democrats don't
want to work with Trump, but they don't want to
work with Maggie. They want to destroy us. I mean,
that's their only motivation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Well, I had predicted this to happen. I think you
and I talked about this before, actually in twenty twenty,
because the Democrats were such disarray, but they sold an
election and they filled themselves and everybody else into thinking
they had some credibility. And I hope all they can
do is hope and pray, Jeff, that these midterms that
are coming up, that enough American people have seen enough

(01:03:45):
of the Democrats to not be you know, no longer
propagandized by the mainstream media who have continued to hold
them up and all these other entities, because they're just
they're a destructive four. At the end of the day,
I can't sit there and say I am so glad
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(01:04:06):
X and X that is making America better. I mean,
they are the exact opposite.

Speaker 7 (01:04:12):
Well, let's look at one thing that they're pushing for,
and that's this Epstein files release. You know, it's their
Johnny come latelies to this. I mean, a lot of
us have been calling for this disclosure for years, but
they jumped on it because they believe there was a
way to hurt Trump. They don't care about the victims.
They don't care about disclosure transparency. It's just a way
to hurt Trump. That shows you what they're thinking. It's

(01:04:33):
all motivated by how to destroy Donald Trump. They don't
care about the illegals that are coming here and taking
care of them. They don't care about the poor people
in the country. They just want the voters. They certainly
don't care about these victims of Jeffrey Epstein. It's just
political power going after their enemies. That's why my predictionm
I make it right here with you, Bill, that if

(01:04:55):
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As promised, we're back with you nineteen minutes after the
top the Air Bill Martinis with Jeff Cruerer Louisiana's Pride
and Joy. Jeff, You're exactly right. It would be NonStop.
They've already said that, I mean, and they've already you know,
presented impeachment articles even as a minority party. Unfortunately, thank god,
hasn't gone anywhere. But you know, you think of the

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important things that America has to deal with right now
in terms of AI militarily, what Donald Trump is doing
and realizing, hey, we've got to have a more robust military.
You know, China's building up boats, but certainly not the
quality of America. But nonetheless they have a plethora of
boats in the water, and Trump announced We're gonna really

(01:10:23):
superpower our boats even more so. So, you know, the
vision that he continues to share with America, whether it
has to do with AI, our military, the economy, the border,
all this, I mean, it is to me, it's exciting.
And I think that his vision of a Golden Age
for America. I mean you can see you could see

(01:10:44):
it happening. I mean, there's credibility behind that vision as
opposed to the Democrats. The Democrats just talk about affordability,
but they don't know what makes up affordability.

Speaker 7 (01:10:53):
They don't and they did not deliver affordability. They delivered.
You know what they delivered. They delivered high interest rates
and high inflation and wages. It did not keep up
with inflation, so people lost purchasing power. Real wages went down.
Now under Trump, wages are exceeding inflation, so people are
again able to pay down their credit card debt, pay

(01:11:14):
for their expenses, save a little money. The stock market's good,
so if they have investments, they're doing well. And back
to what you're saying about the military, I mean, he
really does want our military to be the best in
the world. He's investing in it. Recruitment is up, We're
building this what he calls a Golden Fleet, and then

(01:11:35):
we're putting a golden dome over America to protect our
country from incoming attacks from terrorist regimes, from outlaw regimes
that could want to kill Americans. So he's protecting the
country as well as improving our standard of living. So
as you say, I mean, what he's doing is just
amazing in spite of the incredible attacks on a daily basis.

(01:11:56):
And we're just lucky to have a man that's willing
to put off up with all the nonsense and abuse
that he gets on a daily basis.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Bill right exactly. And how many presidents have we had,
you know, said oh, we're gonna have a war on drugs,
and what did the war look like? It was just
all it was all rhetoric off, there was nothing to
back it up. Donald Trump's blowing boats oute of the water.
Guess what, Hey, hey, I got a new job for you.
We need you to, you know, run some drugs, and
here's a boat for you.

Speaker 7 (01:12:24):
I don't want that job, right well, I mean, I'll
tell you. And he's blowing the boats up, and then
he's putting pressure on a regime that is an arco
terrorist regime. And then he's securing the border so not
as many drugs are able to flow into our country.
So all of that is helping on the quote war
on drugs. I mean, we're actually engaged in a war

(01:12:46):
on drugs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
Now, imagine that what a novel concept. After losing you
know how many young kids that we lost just in
the last ten years. You know, you're talking average, you know,
seventy eighty thousand a year. I mean, that's like ten
times the amount of war loss that we had in
Vietnam for example.

Speaker 7 (01:13:05):
I mean you just think of a football stadium filled
with people. I mean, we're losing that many people to
drugs each and every year, year after year after year,
and it's it's a total tragedy. And I think when
you improve the economy, when you do something about this
influx of drugs, that can help because economic you know,

(01:13:27):
despair certainly causes some people to turn to drugs. If you,
you know, increase the standard of living, improve economic conditions,
that'll help as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:38):
Right, it's all, it's all contributory. You're exactly right, Jeff.
And this is what I love about Donald Trump as
a businessman, because he's constantly looking at you know, again,
that American first mentality. When was the last time you
had a president that was wheeling and dealing bringing in
trillions of dollars into.

Speaker 7 (01:13:55):
The country, Right, it's right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
And I can remember and I can't remember the last
president said, hey, you know, they came to him they said,
how about if we give a bonus, a little Christmas
bonus to the military. How about we could do you know,
one thy one and seventy five, you know, or seventeen
we can do seventeen seventy five. He goes, I think
we can find a dollar more. How about seventeen seventy
six that I'm better, you.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Know, I'm so glad he's going to be a president
daring on two hundred and fiftieth anniversary because he's going
to celebrate it the right way. He loves our history,
he loves our heroes, wants to restore our monuments, wants
to restore a pride in our country, which I think
was missing during these Democrat regimes. Remember Obama started off
by apologizing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
He went on an apology tour exactly.

Speaker 7 (01:14:40):
This president will never apologize for the greatness of our country.
And that's what we love about him. And yeah, this
is going to be a great year, I think, for
the country and be a great person to have in
charge as we celebrate this incredible anniversary.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
Well, and I love his sense of humor. I mean,
putting his name on the Kennedy Center, I mean, you know,
it's just it's he just loves poking these people, and
they're just so easily triggered. I mean, thank god Rosy's overseas.
If she was, if she was here in the stage,
she'd really I mean, there'd be gray at her head,
be exploding all over the place.

Speaker 7 (01:15:18):
You know, do you remember when that first inauguration occurred,
they had the image of the woman. She was like
kneeling down and she was just screaming. I mean, this
woman when Donald Trump finally got inaugurated, she just lost
her mind and started screaming. And that's just the way
they are, I mean that. And they've been screaming ever since,
ever since he came down the escalator, they've been screaming.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
And I don't know about you, but I just want to,
I don't know, if you can have a conversation with him,
help me understand why what what?

Speaker 14 (01:15:49):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
What is so wrong? You know? And I've tried to
tell people on the left, and of course you get
the ones that are just he's so easily triggered, and
you go, I don't want to run my dinner, so
you know, we'll talk about something else. Let's talk about
Captain Kangaroo or something. But I don't understand the.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
Fact that he doesn't apologize, that he doubles down, that
he's bold, that he continues along with his vision, that
they can't deter him. That drives him crazy, that he
really does want to make America great again. They think
that's somehow racist or wrong, that he wants to improve
the plight of Americans. He's not interested in being a
global policeman, so he's not a globalist, but he wants

(01:16:28):
a strong military. So that to me is the old
Reagan vision of peace through strength, and that's what he's pursuing.
And they don't want that. I mean, they want someone's
going to be all into the UN and these stupid
Green New Deal climate accords, and he called it what
it is. It's a scam exactly. So he drives them crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Well, yeah, between that and I love the Walk of
Fame there in the White House, all the different pictures,
including the auto pen for Joe Biden. And as if
that's not he's got a little commentary below each one.
Now he's added that to the to the to the wall, right.

Speaker 7 (01:17:06):
I love it, and he's right. I mean, we used
to always think Jimmy Carter was the worst president I mean,
Jimmy Carter is George Washington compared to Joe Biden. I mean,
Joe Biden is the worst president, and he has that
underneath his auto Penny's comments about Barack ob Bill. I mean,
it is just incredible that we have this man providing

(01:17:29):
not only leadership, but as you say, entertainment.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah, without a doubt. Well, I thought his speech last
week very succinct. What is it, seventeen nineteen minutes or
something like that, right to the point, just saying, hey,
here's the vision, here's what's going on. This is what
affordability looks like. Let me remind you, because the mainstream
media is not, you know, reporting on this. They're doing
everything they can to avoid, you know, telling the truth
to the American people. Though. I mean, look at like

(01:17:53):
you said, look at your four oh one K program.
How many times with Obama and with with Biden, our
four oh one k became two oh one case. You know,
they're hearty and they're robust. Right now. Everything looks to
be hunky dory right now going into this Christmas season.

Speaker 7 (01:18:11):
You know, I thought that address was good. Some people
criticized it. I liked it. He focused on economic issues,
which I think the Republicans needed to you as they
get ready for the midterms. Car Bill's old saying is right.
It's the economy stupid. That's what motivates people in their
voting and just laying at the facts. You know, how
we're better off than we were under Biden, all the
different things that are coming up with the big beautiful bill,

(01:18:33):
the tax cuts for tips and overtime and social Security.
I mean, that is tremendous affordability. So he tricked them, though.

Speaker 18 (01:18:41):
Bill.

Speaker 7 (01:18:41):
They thought he was going to be talking about war
with Venezuela, so they all covered it, and then he
comes on it talks about his economic achievements, and I
think they felt like they had been had, but he
pulled one over on him, And I'm glad they did
cover it because people need to hear from their president
about how things are doing. He doesn't do a lot
of these national addresses, so it deserved coverage well.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
And he didn't spend ninety minutes on it. He didn't
overdo it. Just hey, he just dished it out, gave
you enough, you know, to wet your beak, so to speak,
and you know, feel a little bit better about what's
going on and go ahead and check out your four
oh one k. Check out the price of eggs. Check
out what's going on. Yes, and we're working on, you know,

(01:19:22):
increasing your income because we understand that's all part of it,
not to mention housing, so all these critical issues. It
demonstrates that he knows what he's talking about and he's
working at it. Jeff, give you the least delivery.

Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
Yeah, he's delivering for the American people. Remember, twelve out
of the last sixteen years we've had Biden and Obama.
His first term, they harassed him the whole time. We're
recovering from all of that. He's doing at a historic pace.
And I will say this, the best is yet to calm. Bill,
and I think this was going to be a great
year coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
I agree with you one hundred percent. Jeff Merre Christmas
to you. Thank you so much for being with Jeff Career,
the native New Orleans, PA commentator and host of the
award winning program Ring Side Politics. Thank you, Jeff, got all.

Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
Right, Thank you, my friend, Thank you. Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:20:06):
You got it.

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Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Hey Mary, Christmas, Happy New Year. Bill Martinez here along
with the world famous nails Gervilius Neil. Thank you so much.
I always appreciate you coming on and updating on all
things you know of a law enforcement nature and things
that inquiring minds have on top of their brain, just saying.

Speaker 21 (01:24:03):
Well, it's my sincere pleasure, mister Martinez. Would you like
a salty macab joke for your Christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Yes, go ahead, give me a salty maccob jog. I'm
I always like something salty and sweet too, but well,
go ahead.

Speaker 21 (01:24:19):
So why is your real Christmas tree exactly like Amy
Wyan house? Why because it dies and leaves needles everywhere?

Speaker 1 (01:24:31):
That is Macob. And thank god we waited a couple
of years before you shared that one, Nils. I think
our audience, some of the audience that were driving their
cars have now have been, you know, off an embankment.

Speaker 14 (01:24:46):
Well tell them of that.

Speaker 21 (01:24:48):
If they're not interested in the salty commentary, to stay
the hell off the sidewalk. Okay, exactly, Hey, speaking of
salty commentary, this is one of those things that you
know happened so quickly and not a big surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Dan Bongino resigning from the FBI, what are your spidery
senses saying?

Speaker 15 (01:25:13):
What?

Speaker 14 (01:25:14):
What I'm hearing is.

Speaker 21 (01:25:17):
That it's it's not due to a dispute with President
Trump or anything like that. My fear Bill is that
his cancer has returned.

Speaker 1 (01:25:27):
Oh jeez, okay.

Speaker 21 (01:25:28):
I mean he he had two bouts exactly stand it.
And if that's the case, I'm very concerned for him
and Paula the rest of his family.

Speaker 14 (01:25:40):
He's a fine man.

Speaker 21 (01:25:43):
I didn't hear a lot of blow ups from Bongino
while he was in the FBI. I know that he
pissed off a lot of the people who were protecting
the insiders who had engaged in politicking on behalf of
the democratic cult.

Speaker 14 (01:26:01):
He fired a few men.

Speaker 21 (01:26:04):
Very importantly though, Bill, he undertook a very direct investigation
of the January sixth pipe bombing and put a different
team of agents on that and sold it, which is
the primary thing that he promised to do going into
the FBI. He went directly after a child traffic to

(01:26:26):
sex trafficking. He went after narcotics dealer's major crimes, that
sort of thing, which is what Dan promised to do.
I have zero disappointments with the men. He's, you know,
he has nothing left to prove as a man. Bill,
he's you know, he should be holding his stuff around

(01:26:48):
in a wheelbarrow, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:26:51):
Yeah. I think the challenge and I've spoken with others
who are very familiar with administrations, and you know, Bongino,
like you said, he's thrown into the FBI, and you're
talking thousands of established bureaucrats with all with a lot
of bad habits, you know, well entrenched, and Bongino's a

(01:27:12):
no nonsense kind of guy, and he just wants to
get the job done. And that's been Yeah, and so
you know, the same thing that probably got to him
was the same thing that got to Elon Musk, is
that you know, this stuff is insane, and these are
a protected class of people. They continue to get away
with murder. They're stealing blindly from the American taxpayer, stealing

(01:27:35):
us as we're blind over it, and they have no
conscience whatsoever. I mean, I don't know how long anybody
with any kind of sanity and morality, how long you
could be in that kind of cesspool.

Speaker 21 (01:27:49):
Neils, Okay, that's one one view of it. I think
it's worth saving. I think the FBI is an institution
that can be reformed, right, And I don't take his
departure as a sign that he gave up. I take
his departures.

Speaker 1 (01:28:04):
Yeah, I don't think so either. But I think that
it's a sign. It's a sign to consider here, you know,
like like with Elon Musk Okay, Uh, the FBI will
continue to go on. Uh, They've managed to get through it.
But it's like, but what kind of FBI do we
the people want, nils.

Speaker 21 (01:28:22):
Exactly, we want one that is neutral to politics, neutral
to capital, that enforces uh the law, that uses resources
very wisely in its approach, and is honest with the
with the American public.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Yeah, it protects It protects the American people, uh, based
on our constitution.

Speaker 14 (01:28:45):
And not the political class.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Right exactly. It has to be a political and uh,
you know, and like anything, bad habits take a while,
you know, but once they get established, takes a while
to to run them out. But you've got to be,
like like any you've got to first admit you've got
a problem. And I'm not sure the establishment is ready
to admit that they've got a problem.

Speaker 21 (01:29:07):
Well, okay, so I'm gonna put something out here. Over
the decades, I've heard a lot of crazy garbage about
Director Hoover. I'm just bizarre stuff that people put out
to try to denigrate Hoover and the old FBI. Well,
these are the same people who couldn't give Peter Starke,

(01:29:30):
Lisa Paige, and Andy McCabe a long enough, hard enough
tongue bath while they were engaging in politicking. The FBI
shouldn't just be neutral politically, it should be neutral too politics.
In other words, they shouldn't favor one.

Speaker 14 (01:29:48):
Side or the other.

Speaker 21 (01:29:50):
They should be accountable to the American people and not
protect the political class. I am disgusted anybody in the
FBI who formed some special relationship with some turred in
the media and regularly leaks like Jim Comey was doing,
should be fired and lose their pension period. And we

(01:30:12):
have a real problem in this country at the local, county,
state and federal level of when we do catch somebody
involved in criminality, breaking regulations, rules, that sort of thing,
we don't strip them of their pension. Yeah, there's no
accountability none whatsoever. And I think we really need to

(01:30:34):
go after that. And it isn't just in law enforcement,
it's in all government. You know, if somebody is caught
dipping their greasy hooks into the public coffers, self dealing
things like that, they should not just lose their job,
they should lose their pension, their benefits things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Ye see, this is a thing at a ground level
what most Americans are used to. You know, we operate
that way. You know, when we're working for a company,
if we cheat and steal from that company, we lose
our job, and there's you know, there's cause for for
being reassigned out of the company, and any kind of
loss of benefit an additional benefit. I mean, that's just

(01:31:18):
it's natural. Why should we reward somebody. It's kind of
like lowest learner, lowest learner or the scam that she
did and participated on with Barack Obama and what she's
got a golden parachutehere. She had like two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars a year with all the damage that
she did.

Speaker 21 (01:31:33):
Right, and went on to double dip her pension and
benefits with another state agency or something like that, or
you know university system.

Speaker 14 (01:31:43):
Yeah. In the in the.

Speaker 21 (01:31:45):
Private sector, you know, you eat what you kill, and
if you get caught stealing your out and you lose
everything typically unless you're protected by the political class. And
once again we've seen that over and over again. I
was talking to my postal letter carrier and he said
that eighteen percent of the postal employees at my local

(01:32:06):
station in Pasadena, we're out on injury, stress, disability, et cetera.
And so they have to hire temporary people, bring people
in from other stations, that sort of thing.

Speaker 14 (01:32:17):
He says.

Speaker 21 (01:32:17):
It's very typical for a postal system a region, that
sort of thing, to have more than ten percent out
injured on duty, faking it that sort of thing. There
are not enough postal inspectors to investigate what it is
that they're doing.

Speaker 14 (01:32:32):
And the postal service.

Speaker 21 (01:32:33):
Is forbidden from hiring private investigators to investigate, you know,
fake claims of injury, that sort of thing. Only the
postal inspector is allowed to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah, there we go. This is typical of a union
mindset that wants to protect its own and promote mediocrity.
You know, so are we surprised? But again, we look
at this government, we look at the fraud, the waste,
and we deserve better. But you know, I don't know
how much more the people can put up with NILS
because all these things, it's all about power and control.

(01:33:11):
It feeds this machine that is well established and it's
it's it's an organism unto itself, isn't it it's like
the blob.

Speaker 14 (01:33:21):
Well it is.

Speaker 21 (01:33:22):
Oh, I'm here deep within occupied territory where a Marxist
super pac called the Teachers Union controls my legislature. They
own equity in my in my governor so much that
he'll do anything they.

Speaker 14 (01:33:36):
Tell them to.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
Yeah, are we surprised, right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Right?

Speaker 21 (01:33:43):
But and then I get bombed on social media with
how teachers are poor. They all live at the poverty
level and they have to bring crayons to school to
be because the little kidlets who they're not who they're
teaching or don't don't have enough supplies. And the school
system spends a lot of money feeding the little kid

(01:34:03):
lits because their parents can't possibly feed them. People in
California apparently don't know how to feed children. It's the
most amazing thing in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
Bill, Have you visited some of these schools and watch
these you know, these breakfast programs and how much food
is thrown out every day. I mean, it's amazing. You know,
when we were in a Hispanic dominated community in California
and Neil's I mean, our kids were going to public
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(01:34:33):
would serve these kids food. They didn't like, and they
would literally just throw it out. And I'm going and
I told the principal, I says, I'll guarantee you this.
You could go out and get a couple of the
grandma's out there and they'll be making tortillas and I
have rice and beans there, and those kids are beaten
all day and you will save a ton of money.

Speaker 4 (01:34:51):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:34:51):
Well, they would never do such a thing, and any
Albuela with her sand wouldn't allow her kid to go
to school great to begin.

Speaker 1 (01:35:00):
With, exactly exactly, and they're not going to I mean,
it's just it's just absurd. But again, this is where
we find ourselves in our country today. And I keep thinking, okay,
what is going to be the final straw that breaks
the back where the people just say enough of this
stuff and revolt, you know, kind of in much the
same way would happen in England with all the farmers
out there right and storming the best deal and doing

(01:35:23):
a siege work there. That was that was awesome, And
of course you know, the Prime Minister goes, oh, I
was just kidding.

Speaker 21 (01:35:32):
So the same thing has happened in Netherlands, Belgium.

Speaker 14 (01:35:35):
And France, right.

Speaker 21 (01:35:39):
Okay, so what will happen in California?

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Well, tell you what. Let's go to quick break and
then we'll come back and answer that question. Okay, we've
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Speaker 1 (01:39:53):
Hey, welcome back. Bill Martinez here with Nails Gervilius, the
crime expert, author and US Army vet can pleade the
three tours in I didn't realize you were in the DMZ.

Speaker 21 (01:40:02):
I did to one year tours on the DMZ and
a third tour in what we call Mexican Infantry Military Intelligence.
I was in a counterintelligence unit. And anyway, I mean
it was a long time ago, in the nineteen eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
It's all what is refined your charm, Nils, and I'm
grateful for that. Nils is also the author of the Last,
Long and True Stories of a Private Detective. He's a
Los Angeles based private investigator. Just because he's based there
doesn't mean he stays there. He's all over the place.

Speaker 21 (01:40:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
It's thirty years of experienced. He shares it with the
entire world, and he shares it with us, and I'm
grateful to have him on the show with us. Anyway,
you started to talk about California and the wonderful governor there.

Speaker 21 (01:40:47):
Well, yes, I mean, in lesson, until we fix our
voting system in this state, you cannot rely on what
the ballot actually says. They've got ghost ballots, We've got
social workers harvesting ballots from debt body and people who
don't aren't interested in voting. I mean, we have this
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(01:41:09):
have probably eighty thousand people living on the streets. That
sort of thing, a plurality of the magically vote and
their ballots are harvested by union employees.

Speaker 14 (01:41:20):
It's super weird, Bill, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
All not that weird. It's the Maduro election format campaign.
That's how they do it.

Speaker 21 (01:41:28):
Well, yeah, it's Chavesmo, it's what it is, Ugo Chaves.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
Yeah, going back to the original. Yeah, exactly right, yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:41:36):
Right right.

Speaker 21 (01:41:37):
He magically transformed Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South
America into a beggar state, like Mugabi did with Rhodesia.
I mean, up until nineteen seventy nine, Rhodesia could feed
all of Black Africa from the Sahara to the Cape
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(01:41:59):
taking over in turning it into Zimbabwe, they had rendered
it a beggar state. Going to the UN for Food Aid.

Speaker 1 (01:42:07):
Well, and here it is, America is knocking on the door,
said insanity, with only theory and data that just reports
exactly what you just just said. So why would Americans
dare to even dance with that devil?

Speaker 21 (01:42:24):
Well, we've raised two and a half generations of functional illiterates. Bill,
it's hard to run against Santa Claus, rush Limbaugh said
in twenty twelve. You can't run against Santa Claus. It's impossible.
So you know, we have to fight that. We have
to educate people. We've got authentic problems. I want to

(01:42:46):
point a problem out that seems to be on our side,
but it's not really this Nick Fwen's character. Many people
want to associate him with conservatives, with the GOP, with
the Trump people, that sort of thing. Nick Fuentes is
a left wing syop. The man is forever trying to

(01:43:10):
divide our side and never the left. And I cannot
help but believe that the international left is behind promoting him,
amplifying the crazy things that he says and does, the
fake assassination attempt on him, and Iran may be involved

(01:43:34):
in this too. But I see this, and then I
see this commentary on various right you know, conservative podcast blogs,
that sort of thing. They're all quaking in their loafers
about the Nick Fwinds crowd. And he's attracted the likes
of Candice Owens, who is plainly disturbed and paranoid, that

(01:43:57):
sort of thing.

Speaker 18 (01:44:00):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:44:00):
I can't I can't say that that we need to
run like hell from these people, and our younger our
younger voters should stay clear the hell away from this guy.
I don't think he should be banned, you know, I'm
not into censoring these people, but there's something really wrong
with this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:17):
But you've got to be smart enough and discerning enough
to know the difference, because if you're not studying what
what is the ad to proposition? And any idea that
comes in that needs to be the question does it
add or take away from our freedom? Right? Does it
add or take away from our constitution? And these threats
whether you know it's some of the goofy stuff that
Candice Owen says, you know, it's it's in that as

(01:44:40):
my sense says, that becomes a U problem. I don't
need that problem, you know, that's all. That's all on you,
Nick Fontas. That's fine, you can you know that's that's
a U issue You've got. You've got enough stuff in
your closet and in your curriculum. Vity that makes me
especially suspicious. And I don't see you as being a
legit U contributor to freedom in America.

Speaker 21 (01:45:03):
Well precisely, And what does Nick Fuint has ever sacrificed
for this country?

Speaker 14 (01:45:08):
Exactly? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:45:09):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:45:09):
You know, to whom is he accountable? No one?

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:45:13):
You know, it's we've.

Speaker 21 (01:45:15):
Given we've given these people too much power generally, I mean, pundits, media,
et cetera. Here I am on a Pundit show with
Bill Martinez. Right, it'd be great if we could exert
a bit of power today, Bill, But we we do.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Exert it because we're expressing the truth. The truth is powerful,
Nils and I believe in that, and that's been the
basis of this, you know, this radio show and this
TV show that it's about the truth, the whole truth
and nothing. But I mean that's our commitment. Now. Do
we fall short at times? Admittedly, yes we do, but
we rectify that because our north star is constantly the truth.

(01:45:54):
Because so many other outlets they're about clicks, they're about
making money, and I'm about out bringing some intellect to
the people who come in and tune into the show
so that they're blessed as a result that they walk
away different than when they came in.

Speaker 21 (01:46:10):
I agree with you completely. Did you see the thing
with Barry Weiss's yes, whole minutes right, Yes, she's just
holding it back until it's until it's ready to be
put out. Well, all of her mincing, mendacious minions working
at CBS are furious and leaking to every outlet that

(01:46:32):
they can. They're discontent with her. Barry Weiss is going
to have to cut some throats on our staff.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
It goes back to what you said earlier, Nils. The
left doesn't want accountability. You know, she as the CEO
is saying, hey, look at we're sixteen minutes. For God's sakes,
with the legacy of that show. We need to we
need to be better.

Speaker 21 (01:46:57):
And they don't want to be better. They just want
to They want to advance an idea. They want to
drive the democrats get away car and when the Republicans
are powerlay siege.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
Yes, no, you're exactly it. And this is again, Neils,
what you're reporting on. Again, I remind our audience take this,
don't just trust us. You got to own your own knowledge.
Take this information, study it for yourself so that you
can be empowered, because knowledge is power. And what they're
doing is indoctrinating you either dumbing you down, mediocritizing you

(01:47:30):
so that you've become powerless and you're and you're moldible,
you're malleable in their hands.

Speaker 21 (01:47:36):
Right, that's absolutely correct. Do you remember back in the
in the middle of the Cheney administration, how the daily
costs was to go to for young people, the millennials
interested in you know, what was going on that sort
of thing, and there was a lot of pushing out
the media frontier. A lot of the stuff published in

(01:47:59):
Daily Costs was pretty pretty outrageous. The more staid, button
down version of it was the Huffington Post. And now
those two outlets are his establishment. As it gets eat,
they will do they will do anything to carry the
portfolio of the Democrats that left the international Left George

(01:48:20):
Source whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:48:21):
And they were bought Nils, that's what you're saying. They
were in sold and bought again, right.

Speaker 21 (01:48:28):
They ruthlessly suppressed any dissent within their own ranks. Now
I'm going to make a prediction for you. The oligarchs
who control the Democrat Party are going to shoehorn Gavin
Newsome in as the candidate. They're going to have a
synthetic nominating process. And the real, the real drama is

(01:48:51):
going to be whether or not the rank and file
Democrats are going to put up with this if they're
going to go along with the synthetic process. Sandy Cortes
badly wants to be president that sort of thing, and
there are many young people who really carry a torch
for her, God bless her socialist soul. Okay I want

(01:49:15):
to see if she's going to bolt, if she'll run independently.
I don't think that she will, because she's like Bernie.
Bernie Sanders, she controlled opposition within the Democrat Party. She
will never bolt the Democratic Democrat Party.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
Can you imagine how do you reproduce that asset, that
piece of the pie that she's gotten the Democratic Party
as an independent. Bernie sized that up a long time ago.

Speaker 21 (01:49:42):
He's not stupid, right, he's got He's got six lake
houses as the result.

Speaker 14 (01:49:47):
Of all this.

Speaker 1 (01:49:48):
Right. Not bad for a communist, Not bad for a.

Speaker 21 (01:49:51):
Guy never held an honest job. I mean, what would
you pay Bernie Sanders to do? Paper plastic? I am
got to a communist. I'm a Democrat communist. There's a
very important distinction, you know, mister Martinez. So don't just
call me a communist. I'm a Democrat communist.

Speaker 1 (01:50:10):
Sure you are in your mind? Yeah, okay, we'll pretend
real quick. We've got about a minute a half left here.
This foreign national and the brown shooting boy. What again?
I mean, how you're talking about? How stupid do they
think we are?

Speaker 7 (01:50:27):
Well?

Speaker 21 (01:50:27):
Okay, Nevis Valente looks to me like a used up
CIA asset. Just I don't know that he was in
the CIA, and no, the CIA wasn't behind those murders.
He looks like the kind of guy they'd use up.
He was a STEM, you know, a foreign national stem
scientist or physicist, that sort of thing. That's typically the
kind of guy they recruit to go back to Portugal

(01:50:49):
or whatever and influence this and report that and that
kind of thing. So he's magically allowed after bombing out
of Brown twenty five years ago, to get permanent residence
status and then for four years he lives in an
apartment in Miami where nobody remembers having seen him, with
no job of any kind, no apparent means of support.

(01:51:13):
He's got a rental a storage unit in New Hampshire.
He's going back and forth between Miami and New England,
presumably you know, and commits suicide as soon as he
has identified as the shooter, that sort of thing. He
just looks to me like I used up human and
intelligence source.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):
Well, stay tuned for more details and Nils will keep
us up to date. Nils Gervilli is the crime expert
author in US Army. BET thank you. Nell's take care, Hey,
Merry Christmas happy you here, my friend, have a go.

Speaker 14 (01:51:43):
And have a merry Christmas.

Speaker 21 (01:51:44):
Bill.

Speaker 14 (01:51:45):
It's good to see him on.

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