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And now Bill Martinez.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
Good Morning America. Six minutes after the top of the
our Bill Martinez here with the emergency room doc doctor
B on his way to a wedding, and we got
him just about repleating to get in there real quick.
Hey doctor be good to see you. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
Good to see you Bill on the Bill Martinez Live Show.
And I was thinking we should talk about how to
win arize your viewers, how to keep them healthy this winter.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah, let's do that because you know, no doubt, you know,
we're being warned all the time with commercials in that
that it's the flu season, and you know, you go
to church and people are coughing and hacking and all that.
So let's win a rise to good folks. What do
we say?
Speaker 5 (00:54):
I think, keep them on, keep your family under warranty,
and that's our post, all right. So there's a few
things that really add up and make a big difference
as far as prevention.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Although excuse me, although.
Speaker 5 (01:09):
Heart attacks, stroke and cancer are the top three killers,
that's not what fills the hospitals in the winter.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
What fills the hospitals to capacity is.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Viral respiratory infections, and so how do we prevent that
from being a big problem for our family.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Well, there's a few tools. One is a mouthwash.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
During COVID they the University of Cardiff in the UK
showed that thirty seconds was all that was required to
kill COVID virus with mouthwash, and so using mouthwash daily
for any virus that will come in through your nose
and throat and multiply in your throat and nose and
nasal passages for three to five days before it causes
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a problem, that would be a game changer. So use
mouthwash daily. That's step one. Another tool is bwdesinied nose spray.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's over the counter.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
The FDA said, look, this Pudesinied nose spray is so safe,
we're not going to require a prescription. It used to
be prescription, but now it's over the counter. So budesinied
no spray a generic steroid no spray over the counter.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Water soluble, not alcohol based, which.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Can cause the drying of the lining and irritation and
nose bleeds. This is water soluble, so it doesn't have
the nose bleeds in drying the nose, and so that
on a daily basis interferes with virus replication.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
And so we're.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Using we're using that before any sign of infection or
as a noprey as a propylactic so to speak, of
preventing it.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Yes, so the few decinied no spray, You're exactly right,
these are our strategies that are to prevent symptoms.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
In the very first place.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
If we will on a daily basis use mouthwashed on
a daily basis used pudesinied nose spray. And then another
tool if you start to have a sore throat or
congestion is the Immune mist from immune myss dot com.
That is a betadine iodine no spray throat spray. You know,
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before we take someone's appendix out or gallbladder, will clean
their skin with betadine or iodine that kills viruses and
bacteria and spores on the skin. And so if it
works there, it was brilliant of these nurses to make
this product immune myss dot com. So if you have symptoms,
that's the tool to use. If you start to have
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congestion or a sore throat. I wouldn't use it on
the daily, but I'd have it in my house for
any family members to start to have symptoms. And then
another tool that has been used in hospitals for over
fifty years and is now offered for houses for people
that are wealthy. They can put ultraviolet light in their
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air conditioner ducts. Every air conditioner may hvact man knows
about ultraviolet sea lights, but you can buy those free
standing very cheap. And so the one I bought from
my family is called a uvializer from uvializer dot com
and that you plug that machine in. It has it's
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full proof, It has one button. You push that one
button and a timer starts and that gives you time
to get out of the room. You don't want any
any pets or houseplants or people in the room because
it can kill plants. It can it can cause cancer
for pets and for people. So this is a treatment
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that you do when no one's in the room. It's
not a timer for twenty minutes, and it'll kill all
viruses in the air. Now why is that important, Well,
we were told that measles during the recent measles outbreak.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
They tell us that measles can be hanging in.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
The air for an hour and a half after someone
with measles walks through room.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
You know how you shorten that time.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
You vializer an ultra violet sea light, and that time
goes from an hour and a half in the air
to zero. Ultra Violet sea kills virus is easy, and
so that's not just for me, that's for every virus.
So if we get a bird flu virus that was
juiced up in the lab, like Ran Paul uses that
(05:23):
term juiced up in the lab, we don't have to
be scared.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
We just push a button and walk out.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Of the room and it will destroy and activate every
virus in the air.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But it also kills bacteria.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
It'll kill mold, and so mold toxicity causes a lot
of vague symptoms and for some people it's very incapacitating.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
You may have heard of Ted Nugent, yes, the rock star.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
His wife Shamane Nugent has a podcast and Shamine has
become a friend and she talks about how she suffered
from mold toxicity in her home and the devastation it
was to her health and how she recovered from it.
This is something we've heard for decades. And so this
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ultraviolet sea light actually kills mold. And so whether you're
know you're exposed to it or not, this is a
great tool. So the University Duke University Health System published
a study a couple of years ago saying they have
actually decreased their superbug population in their hospitals by thirty
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percent just using the ultraviolet sea light.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Wow, we're yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Using you know you've heard of mursa, methylne metha, methicillin
resistant staff Arius mursa and other superbugs that bacteria antibiotics
won't work against.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
This kills them.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So this is a great preventive, proactive step as well.
And again it kills bedbugs. Hotel use these products to
kill the bed bugs in hotel rooms. It'll kill animals,
It'll kill pess it will probably kill mosquitoes and flies.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It will And.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
So you want to use it when no one's in
the house. And if you started a habit of using
that on a daily basis, when you're leaving the house,
push that button and leave. It's going to stop in
twenty minutes. But you will have a healthy habit using
the mouthwash, using the budessinied nose spray using the immune
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mist if you start to have symptoms, also be destinied
nebulizer treatments if you start to have respiratory symptoms. We
found that that, according to Oxford, would have prevented ninety
percent of hospitalizations for COVID if people would have just
known about beudestinied nebulizer treatments. And you know who was
the spreader of the most deadly misinformation in history is
(07:58):
Anthony Fauci say exactly when he said that Budessini doesn't
work against COVID. But Oxford proved him wrong in multiple studies.
And so we've got randomized controlled studies from Australia to
the UK, uh to Brazil all confirming budesinied was a
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game changer for COVID. And that was the Stoic trial,
the Principal trial, the Together trial, on and on and on.
So Fauci was wrong and people died. And one way
of saying that as Fauci lied, people died exact.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, And the thing is is that he has not
recanted anything, he's not admitted to anything. He has stayed
quite on all this, and you know, shame on him
for that. I mean what he did, as you said.
I mean the fact that he just you know, he
flat out lied and people died. As you said, Doctor B.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Fauci lied, people died pick aside, and some people have
picked his side, even though his advice in his medical
direction required a preemptive presidential pardon, which, by the way,
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Yeah waited, Yeah, stay tuned for details. We got to
go to quick break. We got more from doctor B
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And we're back with you. We're talking with the emergency room,
doctor Richard Parklett and doctor Ban What else can we
do in terms of personal immunity to strengthen our personal
immunity with these you know here we are, we're coming
into these months that where as you said, you know,
respiratory issues and you know cold and flu you know
come into play. What are you writing about?
Speaker 5 (14:12):
You know, rest is important for your immune system to
function optimally. You got to get your amount of proper
amount of sleep. Everybody's different as far as how much
sleep they need. But one of the tools that I've
found helps my patients sleep in my family sleep is
magnesium at bedtime. Magnesium is an essential mineral. You've heard
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of essential vitamins and minerals. That's actually a technical scientific
medical term essential vitamins and minerals. Essential means that it's
necessary for life and you will have profound symptoms if
you are deficient on any of these vitamins or minerals.
One of those is magnesium. And so here's the benefits
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of magnesium. If you take magnesium at bedtime, it will
make you fall to sleep sooner, sleep deeper and sounder,
and longer. During sleep, you have many things that happened,
including your muscle tone is reset in the body. That's
a time when growth hormone is released from the brain,
which is involved in healing and repair. There's lots of
(15:19):
things that happen. Your immune system functions better if you're
not sleep deprived because of the cortisol that's released when
you're stressed, and so sleep is an important thing. But again, Bill,
I have found when most of the problems that happen
are natural influenza pair influenza RSV strap not deadly diseases.
(15:50):
But when COVID happened, one point two million died.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
We only had four.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Hundred and twenty thousand died during World War Two. We
had three times as many people die. More people died
during More Americans died during COVID in the last four
years than World War one, World War two, Vietnam, and
Korean conflict. That's in Afghanistan and Iraq. And so this
(16:18):
is a game changer that came from a lab. So
if we're dealing with that, it's not just your healthy
immune system, although that's absolutely step one. You need to
use these other tools that we talked about as far
as winterizing our families.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And the thing is the one point two million, doctor
b as you and I have discussed before, that's if
you want to believe in their number. I mean, we
know those numbers were juiced, you know, as we're in
and Baul would say the numbers were juiced and so
and I think that that's unfortunate. That's also an offense
to the scientific community and those of us that want
to be healthy and stay healthy. Is because the facts matter,
(16:55):
do they not?
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, you know, details do matter, facts do matter. And
we've been lied to, literally lied to, purposely lied to
over and over. You know, we had the CDC director
lie to the American people saying, if you get the
COVID shot, you won't spread COVID, you won't get COVID.
That was that was coercion, that was manipulation, and it
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was a flat out lie. And we heard that from
the mainstream media over and over. Rachel Maddow comes to mind,
and hopefully she's listening to Bill Martinez live so she
can learn. But we've saw that the mainstream media was colluding.
We had social media colluding. We had Mark Zuckerberg admit
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to Congress in front of the whole world on camera that, yeah,
he manipulated the facts. He lied to the American people,
and he censored life saving treatments, and he also censored
life threatening facts about the COVID shots to manipulate the people,
and he censored people who were telling the truth. And
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so he he has blood on his hands.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I'll give him credit for at least admitting it. There's
so many others Doctor Fauci, Rachel Medow, entertainer, celebs, who
went on TV uh telling everybody that they needed to,
you know, get the shot, and they all participated in
the shame game of what we experienced in COVID. And
of course now we're unnoticed that you know, the bird
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flu pandemic is in the mix. It's uh uh you know,
the w h O is already setting up a supply chain,
so to speak, of things to do when the bird
flu happened. So they're already ahead of the game and
planning that. And meanwhile, uh, the American people, and I say,
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the world knows very little about.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
It well, and so to get a fast crash course
on this that will save your family a lot of heartache.
They the viewer. The viewers can go to they can
look at your past shows on the Bill Martinez Live.
But also go to John Fleetwood dot com j O. N.
Fleetwood dot com, j O N. Fleetwood dot com and
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there are you will have at your fingertips two minute
reads that have all the hyperlinks to the studies to
back it up, so you will look like the smartest
man in the room. Also, there's a there's a few
documentaries that have come out lately Bill that are free
that I'd want to mention for a second.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
One is an inconvenient study dot.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I'm glad you brought that up. I was going to
talk to you about it, and you sent it to
me and I didn't get a chance to view it,
but I saw some of the intro on it, and
this is this is pretty interesting what he's done.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Yeah, so an inconvenient study dot com. An inconvenient study
dot com. People can look that up for themselves. It's
free and basically it's talking about a study by by
the Henry Ford uh uh medical establishment that showed a
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head to head comparison of the vaccinated versus unvaccinated, and
undercover video with the chief scientists that did the study
saying why he wasn't going to publish it because of
spoiler alert. It didn't say what they wanted us to think.
(20:26):
It showed the opposite of what they've been saying in
the media and in the and in the established medical
community for decades.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
So but this is this.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Is really revealing and so an inconvenient study dot com.
It is worth a one time watch and you will
be you can't unsee it once you've seen it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Yeah, and del Bigtree, who is uh you know, we
put this documentary together. He's a medical journalist, incredible background.
He's been connected with r. F. K.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Junior.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Fact, he was there, he said, in the Oval office
when R. K. Junior was sworn into office as the
HHS director.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yes, and so he is an Emmy award winning UH
producer director uh and uh journalists.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So uh he's he's he's the.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Real deal and I know I know him. An inconvenient
study dot com another study, another documentary.
Speaker 13 (21:28):
UH.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
The people would want to see is Operation Kayla. That's
O p kla dot com O p kla dot ca A.
Excuse me, she's in Canada and so O p kyla
dot c A and people are looking at that important
people are looking at that documentary and I encourage all
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your viewers to take a moment and look at it's
for operation They've put O p Kyla kay l a
dot c A for Canada, and you will something that
you can't unsee that is powerful, what.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
A story I mean? And here it is. Of course
we know Canada is it's their national healthcare system and
we're hearing more and more of this and basically they
couldn't do much for her, so they said, hey, we'll
give you. The next plan is to help you die.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Right, Yes, they're offering someone who was injured, paralyzed from
the neck down from a spinal cord injury called transverse
myelitis from the COVID shots instead of helping her with
rehab and therapy and wheelchairs, et cetera. Instead they're offering
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her maid service. In Canada, the law made is medically
medical assistance in death made m a i D. Made
service is literally we're offering maid service in Canada to
kill people by the dots. And so this is systematic,
the healthcare system not being used to heal, but to
(23:06):
kill people.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Well, this is socialized medicine. And this is what ladies
and gentlemen wake up. This is what they're trying to
bring to America under the terms of affordable healthcare.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Right, yes, it's the next step. This is socialized medicine.
Socialized medicine. The evidence of how that is so broken.
Our healthcare system is broken. It's corrupted. We have a
regulatory capture that has been a problem where the CDC
and the FDA are bought and paid for speaking very
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plain English, and we have seen that drugs that should
not have been pushed through products that should not have
been pushed through were promoted with your taxpayer dollars. They
said it was safe and effective. For instance, the Johnson
and Johnson COVID shot was FDA approved because it had
no evidence that it was safe and effective, and then
(24:04):
it was withdrawn from the market when it killed so
many people that it couldn't be hidden any longer. It
will never be FDA approved. Nobody's been told that by
the government or by the FDA yet that the Johnson
and Johnson shot was not FDA approved, never will be
FDA approved, because it could never prove that it was
safe and effective because it killed too many people. And
(24:26):
so that's just an example of regulatory capture with the
COVID shots. But we've seen it with other drugs that
were pushed out onto the American people for money for
profit by for profit pharmaceutical companies, and then later they
settle for they do a settlement because so many people died,
and then the product is withdrawn from the market. We
(24:48):
saw that with Bextra from Pfizer, brought to you by Pfizer.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
We saw that with.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yos another medicine that was on the market that was
causing heart attacks and you healthy men, and so over
and over we've seen a pattern of what RFK Junior
has called out as regulatory capture, where the regulators that
are supposed to be protecting the American people are bought off,
and they don't have the people's interests at heart. They
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have corporations profits at heart because they're bought.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
That's the whole truth, Doctor b thank you for the
prescription to help us win a rise our homes and
our families against the uncoming onslaught of cold and flu
season and all the other bugs that are flying around
these days. He's the emergency room medical director and doctor himself,
doctor Richard Barbla. Thank you, Doc, take care, Thank you Bill.
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Speaker 4 (29:42):
Hey, welcome back America. Bill Martinez here with doctor George Barna,
the Infamous, the one and only, to talk about his
latest study that is finding the churchgoers are tipping towards
socialism and away from scripture. Are you shocked and surprised?
Speaker 15 (30:00):
I'm not personally. I mean, it's a continuation of a
tread and I've been tracking for forty years, so this
is just the latest iteration of it. But yeah, I mean, nevertheless,
I'm the reason that I keep tracking it is that
I'm hopeful that at some point Christian leaders will hear
some of this and they'll say, oh my gosh, that's
not the way it's supposed to be. We better do
something about it, right, great plan, let's do something about it.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Well it's almost like, you know, it's one thing for leaders,
but the other thing is the people themselves to say, oh,
you know what, I'm going to forget about the stove
being hot. I'm going to go ahead and put my
hand on a hot stove once again. I'm going to
go and you and I've talked about this as well,
I'm going to go ahead and defy gravity because I
don't think God exists. Okay, And after you have enough
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carnage and people are tired of being stupid and injured,
they finally say, oh, maybe we ought to rethink these theories, right,
because you know, again we're reminded one of the wisest
men we're told, Solomon himself, said there's nothing new under
the sun. And so here we are. We're in this
human disease factory that just keeps on repeating all this silliness,
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thinking that somehow there's going to be a pony under
all that manure that's stocked up for us.
Speaker 15 (31:17):
Well, yeah, and so part of what this study did,
and we did this in conjunction with Family Research Council
because they're working with thousands of churches and millions of
individual Christians who are conservative in terms of their political
persuasion and they want to see the country return to
its biblical roots. Great, but then we do this kind
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of research with churched people, and that's what this study was.
Among people who consistently go to church Christian churches, and
we find that, wow, their worldview is so far off
the mark even though they're attending conservative churches, their conservative polytically.
You know, we've got a third of them who say
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they prefer socialism to capitalism. You've got another quarter of
them who say, well, gee, I don't know which one
would be better really, you know, And then you look
at their worldview, you look at their views about success
and purpose and salvation and truth and the Bible and
so forth, and it's minorities of these people. These are
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our best and our brightest, so to speak. When we
look at the church world, they don't get it. They
don't have a biblical worldview. You know, only eleven percent
have a biblical worldview. So yeah, I mean we've got
to rethink the entire approach that we're taking the ministry
because it's that whole definition of insanity. Keep doing the
same thing over and over and think, oh, yeah, tomorrow
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they'll have a biblical worldview. Tomorrow they'll understand that socialism
kills the culture, you know. No, I mean we've got
to be much more direct and take a whole different approach.
Jesus gave it. What's the approach. It's called discipleship, right,
and you know we're simply not practicing it. We think
programs and big events are the way to.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Go exactly well. And the thing is, I think it's
interesting that we're talking about this topic not only because
of what happened in New York, but also that here
we are on the eve of Thanksgiving, and we've got
Thanksgiving week coming upon us here, which I love. And look,
look what happened with the Pilgrims. They experimented with socialism.
(33:30):
And I think it was quite ironic because here the Pilgrims,
you know, were enscuonched. I mean, they had bathed themselves
in scripture, in prayer and fasting, you know, seeking God
for some twelve years. Fight let us have a place
where we could worship you freely, right, And so they
come to America and they land up end up by accident.
(33:54):
It wasn't their main target in Massachusetts, and they experiment
with socialism, and after two years they go, h this
ain't working. And they learned the hard way that socialism.
Fortunately they didn't have to do what other socialists did
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and murdering a bunch of people. Because that's the other thing,
because even in the modern era, in the last one
hundred years, socialism or any of the isms communism, and
you know, the founders of communism said, look at socialism
is just a nano's breath away from communism. So you
just call it what it is. But responsible George for
killing over one hundred million people. Oh so that sounds great,
(34:39):
let's do that, huh.
Speaker 15 (34:42):
And you look at all of that and you recognize okay,
So where does socialism come from. What's what's its body
of philosophy drawn from? Well, it's drawn basically from marx
So it's essentially Marxism, and what are the key tenets
of Marxism? All the things that are for fathers came
here to get away from the idea that there's no God,
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that the Bible is not true, that there is no
absolute moral truth. You know, that it's the elites who
know what's best for you, and so we should have
no power. They should have it all because they'll make
better decisions for us. You know, all of that proven
to be false, and yet they still tinker with it
when they get here. It's remarkable. Thankfully they didn't take
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as long as a lot of other people in America
today seem to be taking to figure this out. But yeah,
I mean, we've got to open our eyes and recognize
there is a God. He is truth. He gave us
truth in his word. He wants the best for you,
and that's why he talks about how all of these
things need to work, including his chosen people. In the survey,
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we looked at perceptions about, and beliefs about, and interest
in Israel, and we're finding that church going American born
again Christians in America feel no responsibility whatsoever. Most of them,
not all of them, but most of them would say
they have no responsibility Israel. We are the new Israel.
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We are the spiritual Church. They are not.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
You know, they gave.
Speaker 15 (36:16):
That what but you know, it's like, what scriptures are
you reading? So exactly, really need a rejiggering of the
whole puzzle here so that we put it together the
way that God wants it put together.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Well, until we reconnect with God himself. See this is
the deal beginning. Wisdom starts with God. You have no
relationship with God, you just kind of render yourself stupid, right,
I mean history has demonstrated that time and time again.
All right, as sure as if you defy gravity, you're
going to hit the ground. You know, it's the same thing.
It's just built into the cake. God is the source
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of all wisdom. You think you know better than God,
will then listen to him. Chuckle.
Speaker 15 (37:00):
And keep in mind too that when we look at this,
so many people in our churches have thought that because
we're told we can have a relationship with God, that
it becomes a good buddy relationship. Yeah, God's my good buddy.
He understands. No, he understands. But he's not just going
to let you go anywhere and do anything and think anything,
(37:22):
believe anything, which is what the church is becoming. We're
now moving toward that phase where it's all about emotions.
Oh I love God, I feel God, you know, but
I also feel like having an affair with that woman
because man, is she beautiful. But God made that beauty.
He'll understand, you know. He'll cut me a break here. No,
(37:42):
that's not the way it works. He gave us very
specific guidelines by which to live, which is why the
Bible alone, among all the books in history, has persisted
accurately over the course of thousands of years a couple
thousand years, no other document like that. Why, Because God
wants us to have it, He wants us to read it,
(38:03):
he wants us to live by it, because that's what
brings him honor and glory, and that's what enables us
to have that relationship with him. It's not our feelings that, Gee,
I'd like to have God is my good buddy. Well
that's not quite how it works.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Well, let me ask you this, George. Do you know
of a good buddy who is just and right? I mean,
it's just real simple. I mean, I don't know. I mean,
I've got some good buddies. I got some friends, and
in the best of themselves, I don't want them executing justice,
and I don't think they're always right. But God, consistently,
to your point, is just and right. And by that definition,
(38:44):
I'm not sure he would be in the buddy category
just saying yeah.
Speaker 15 (38:48):
And that's the beauty of him, Bill, is that he's
also forgiving and loving, and so we've got the chance
to be our knucklehead selves and yet still have that
that relatelationship with him. It can be intimate, but that
doesn't mean that it's so intimate that we throw out
his rules. It's a relationship where at all times he
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remains in charge, and that offends our American sensibilities. Here,
you know, we like to think no, no, no, no no.
It's important for us to be in control because only
we know what's right for us, absolutely wrong and right,
you know. I mean, the only one who always knows
what's right for us is God. He's spilled it out
for us. We simply need to accept it and live
(39:31):
accordingly exactly.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
I mean, he didn't set this up to be some
cosmic killjoy. It's so that it would go well with
us and for us. Stay tuned. We've got to go
to quick Break. We've got more from doctor George after this.
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Speaker 4 (43:51):
Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could join us.
Bill Martinez here and we're talking with the doctor George Barna,
his latest study, which is the director of research at
Arizona Christian University's Cultural Research Center and the author of
Raising Spiritual Champions. The website, George, I mean that we're
talking about here. I mean all these surveys and research
(44:13):
that you've been doing. The website they can go to
to study up for themselves, because, as we often say,
you need to own your own knowledge. I mean, we're
reporting to you. It's up to you to discover for
yourself and just not take our word for it.
Speaker 15 (44:28):
Right absolutely, so they could go to Cultural Research Center
dot com, or they could go to my website Georgebarna
dot com. Whatever's easier to remember. Go there. All the
stuff is free to download it, share it, study it.
I mean, you know, it's important to think about these matters.
If you don't think American Christians are getting it right,
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good show them the way. That's what a disciple does
is we imitate Jesus and we serve as a model
for other people to see Christ through us through how
we believe, how we behave, and so we teach others
through that modeling, and it's important that we do that.
We've got too few people doing it. So I hope
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that everybody that's listening right now is going to say, Okay,
that's going to be my challenge for this Thanksgiving. Everybody
that I encounter, I want them to be able to
look at me and to see Jesus through the choices
that I'm making, through the words coming out of my mouth,
the relationships I'm building, the lifestyle that I'm manifesting that
needs to reflect the Kingdom.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
Of God exactly. Well, the opportunity here again, it starts
with you. Okay, before you can evangelize, you've got to
be filled up with all the right things that come
from God. Otherwise you're going to get your hat handed
to you and then you're going to get discouraged and
you're going to say, well, maybe I shouldn't really believe
in this. No, don't be that seed that falls on
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rocky ground. You want to be that fertilized soil that
here's the word of God and produces in thirty sixty
one hundredfold. Right.
Speaker 15 (46:03):
Yeah, And you know, Bill, I mean personally, I've always
been an activist in college. I was an activist. I
came out of college. I was involved in politics, running
political campaigns, you know, serving writing policy papers, all kinds
of stuff meant to change the culture. And for years
I was so discouraged because I kept waiting for the
(46:24):
revolution that I knew we needed. And as I grew
up and matured and accepted Christ and got into the faith,
I realized, yeah, it's ultimately a spiritual revolution, not a
political revolution. But I was still so disappointed because the
revolution wasn't happening. People weren't flocking to Christ and living
his life. And finally, one day, you know, we got
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out Maxwell's silver hammer and he banged me on the
head and said, ding, ding, You know what that revolution
is one life at a time. Don't wait for the
big silver bullet that somebody in Washington or Rome or
wherever you know we or Colorado Springs is going to
fire and things are going to fall into line. It's
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one life at a time. Look at my son, I
sent him to Earth. It was one life at a time.
He took thirteen yahoos and invested three years, three years
in these uneducated by worldly standards, unworthy individuals, until they
got it. And George, you need to do the same thing.
(47:26):
And I'm telling you Bill that that was such a
turning point for me to recognize. Okay, a revolution is one,
one person at a time, and so that's what each
of us has to be thinking, is who's on my
list of potential revolutionaries and one in a time. I
got to be discipling them. I got to show them,
I got to live with them, I got to hold
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them accountable. I got to model it for them. We
got to talk about these things. I've got to invest
time in them. Why because that's how Jesus did it.
Speaker 4 (47:55):
That's how it exactly, exactly and at the core of
all this, George, like you said, you experience the freedom
of God. I mean, how liberating you know, to get
to that point going, oh, I get it. You don't
want me to carry the whole world, right, you know,
just you know, like they tell you when you get
on the airplane, you know, these masks come down, put
the mask on yourself first before you go in, you know,
(48:17):
up the aisles and trying to help somebody else, tripping
over everybody else's mask. Take care of yourself first, and
then you can be of some sort of value here,
you know. I like what you know talking about representing
the Gospel Georgia. I like what Saint Francis of ASSISI
had to say, says, always preach the gospel and occasionally
use words, right, Yeah, yeah, I love that you have to.
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I know, it's so great.
Speaker 15 (48:41):
When I went there to a ceci in Italy, it
was just such a blowaway to read so many of
the things that he said. You know, because I was
familiar with him, I was attracted. That's why we went
to the place. But when you get there and you
feel that environment that he was in where he spent
a life, a lot of time outside, you know, in
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the garden with the birds, God to speak to him, Yeah, yeah,
you know what, that's what's missing for me personally. I'm
so busy trying to do stuff for God that I forget. Yeah,
God doesn't really need me to do stuff. Let me
just listen to what he has to say and see
where he wants to send me, because I know he's
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got a better plan than I've got.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
Yeah, And as Jesus said, don't worry when you're asked,
you know about God, I'll give you the words, right,
even when you're being persecuted. And again that's that trust.
But unless you really let go and allow that to happen,
you'll never experience it. Because meanwhile, I mean, what Jesus
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did for us is in a sense, you know, we're
part of this new covenant. You know, our own our
own bodies are the tabernacle of Christ. I mean when
you think about it, I mean, we're carrying Christ in
us if we allow, if we allow God to you know,
to be there in us, and and we get out
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of God's way, right.
Speaker 15 (50:07):
Yeah, and and and part of that is taken the
time to know what we're about. You got to read,
you gotta I'm sorry, let me go back. One of
my concerns is that in America we've got this thing
about read the scriptures. And maybe because it's our work
at a university, but I think maybe we need to
(50:28):
twist that understanding a little bit and say, don't just
read it. You can read your newspaper, study the scriptures,
you know, spend time reflecting on it. This isn't just
something to check off the to do list. It's like,
dive into it and connect the points. That's one of
the things that I discovered when we did all of
our worldview and we continue to do a lot of
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worldview research. But one of the reasons why people in
our churches don't have a biblical worldview is that when
we go to church, we hear some good Bible sermons
sometimes and we sit there and we take notes. Okay,
I got the main points. But what we're not doing,
we found is connecting the dots, helping people to see
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how all these things fit together. So when I look
at all the research we do, like this current study
and this whole issue about Israel, and it's really troubling
me that so many of our fellow church goers, maybe
fellow Christians, are not understanding how important God's chosen people
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are to his heart. And so in the survey, what
we found is only six regular church goers said, yeah,
I think it's important for us to consistently pray for Israel.
Less than that less than half said, well, I think
it's important for me to talk to other people about Israel,
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about who they are, about their history, about what they're
going through, about their importance in the big scriptural picture. Sure,
why don't we do that? Because we don't know the
big scriptural picture, And so we've got to get back
to studying the scriptures. Where does Israel come up? Why
does it matter to God? Why did he choose them?
What's the difference?
Speaker 2 (52:12):
You know?
Speaker 15 (52:12):
Do we know, say Genesis twelve, you know where God
talks about all bless those who bless Israel. Oh, I
want it on that. You know exactly what do you
do to bless Israel? Okay, you got to pray for him,
you got to talk about them. You know, we found
that only a third of regular church goers said, yeah,
I think it's important to invest my resources, my time,
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my money, other things that I have into supporting Israel.
Most Christians not willing to do that. What are they
willing to put their money into? New clothing, new cars,
new houses, new vacations. All of these kinds of things
rate higher on the scale than supporting God's chosen people.
So it comes back to this issue of priorities. Do
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we really know God's word? Do we prioritize his values
or do we prioritize our values? So it's one of
these things where when you start to study the scriptures,
hopefully you begin to see the world a little bit
differently in your priority shift.
Speaker 4 (53:12):
Well, no doubt you will and I can tell you
that was my discovery, George, is that as I began
to really make a commitment to the word of God,
and what really grabbed a hold of me was Jesus
himself saying, hey, look at I don't live by bread
of man. I live by every word that comes from
the mouth of God. And I'm going this is Jesus
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saying this. And then as I continue on that journey
and the spirit is leading me and opening up my
mind and awareness of what's going on, it was like
kind of what you're saying here right now, and that
is that you have to be committed to studying, to
you know, chewing, meditating on the Word of God. And
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we do that because it blesses us in so many ways.
But it also what it does it serves as a
guardrail to tell us when things come up that are inconsistent,
that do not validate scripture, that are in conflict with scripture.
The more you're aware of what scripture says, that stuff
is glaring screaming at you right. I mean, like some
(54:15):
of the things we're touching on right now, like socialism,
it's like whoa, that is like a screaming siren. But
if you're very casual about scripture. Oh yeah, that kind
of feels okay.
Speaker 15 (54:26):
And related to that, you know, I've been sitting here
looking at all of this data and saying, so, why
don't people read the scriptures? And you know, part of
it is that they don't think it's true, they don't
think it's reliable, they don't think it's relevant. They don't
understand that it's meant by God to be our guide
for making moral choices. It's all in there if we'll
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simply take the time to read it and study it
and embrace it. And so I look at this research
report that I put together, and you know, talks about
how people are confused about abortion. Why because we have
a majority who say the Bible is neither clear nor
decisive in what it teaches about abortion. They a majority
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say it's not clear and decisive what it says about homosexuality.
A majority are telling us it's not clear and decisive.
That's the phrase that we looked at in terms of
teaching us about transgenderism. It's not clear and decisive when
it looks at issues like euthanasia. WHOA, it's only clear, unclear,
(55:34):
and indecisive. If you don't read it and if you
don't trust it, So you know, when you say to God, God,
I'm gonna take a chance, I'm going to step out
here on the plank. I'm going to go to the
edge of the plank, and I'm going to say, God,
I'm trusting you. Now, fill my mind with your truth.
Give them that shot. Because I don't know about your journey.
(55:54):
But that's literally what I did. When I was a gradual.
I was trying to figure out is this Jesus got
for real? And so I told the pastor who was
to oh, yeah, you is he gonna trust him? It's like, okay,
I'm giving him a month. You think he can pull
that off? And the pastor, you know, swallowed hard.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
But you know, so, yeah, okay.
Speaker 15 (56:12):
And so within a couple of weeks after saying to God, God,
you just take me, take me. If you're there, if
you're real, if this stuff that's in this book that
this church just gave me, if this is real stuff,
make it come alive in my mind, my heart, and
my life. And within two weeks, my wife and I
were like, we were giddy. It's like, oh my gosh,
(56:35):
I can't believe this is all real.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
Why didn't we know this earlier.
Speaker 15 (56:38):
We're in our mid twenties.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Look how much.
Speaker 15 (56:40):
Time we wasted, you know exactly. But that's what America
is doing. We're wasting our time pursuing stuff that's meaningless
when we've got life being handed to us by the
one who created it.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Amen. He's the director of research at Arizona Christian University's
Cultural Research Center, the author of Race Spiritual Champions, Doctor George.
As we wrap things up, remind everybody where they can
go to study for themselves and show themselves approved, not
just for the approval process, but for their own joy
and happiness.
Speaker 15 (57:12):
Right. You know what, that was a trick question. You
were thinking I was going to get my website, But
I'm going to say the answer is the Bible, right.
Speaker 4 (57:18):
Say, still the number one selling book on the planet. Right, man?
Speaker 15 (57:23):
I wish I'd written that, but it wouldn't have been
number one if I did. When they had his power,
his truth. But yeah, yeah, I mean, read the Bible.
If you want to make a new year's resolution early,
make it that you are going to not just read
the Bible, you are going to study the Bible for
the coming year. And it doesn't matter if you get
from the beginning to the very end within three hundred
(57:44):
and sixty five days. Just dive into his words, stay there,
stay underwater for a year, okay, and you'll come up breathe.
Speaker 4 (57:52):
The better exactly, And it's okay. You can ask that
same question of God. You know that God would be
real to you right absolutely.
Speaker 15 (58:01):
He's waiting for us to ask it. And the problem
is that not enough are asking it. We think, Okay,
I'm pretty smart, you know I got multiple degrees. I'll
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need God to overwhelm that and say, okay, George, focus.
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Amen, doctor George Barnet, Thank you, my friend. Take care
God bless happy Thanksgiving?
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I'll say you got it, Take care all right.
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Speaker 4 (59:39):
Good Morning America. Six minutes after the top of you
out right now. I'm Bill Martinez. He's Scott Powell from
the Discovery Institute and an author. Hey, mister Scott, how
are we doing.
Speaker 19 (59:47):
I'm doing well, Bill, Thank you had a great Thanks Youvin.
Speaker 4 (59:49):
Yeah, I was going to say we survived. Huh, we
did well. Excellent. Hey, I wanted to talk to you
about something where we find ourselves again. We're at that
critical point in our country where again second Chronicle seven
fourteen comes into player. It's it's a constant refrain and reminder.
You know, if my people who are called by my
name will humble themselves. Number one, pray, You got to
(01:00:12):
humble yourself and pray because really to first of all,
to pray, you've got to get outside of yourself to
realize the problem is bigger than yourself, right, and so
that that becomes the first act of humility and gets
you on the road to finding, you know, a heavenly solution.
(01:00:33):
Because clearly, when you look at the problems we have
right now, there's not enough debate to stop people, you know,
from lopping off you know, sexual body parts, or you know,
insisting that you know, abortion is wrong. We've been debating
this odd nauseum. So we're doing the same thing expecting
(01:00:55):
different results. So this is where second chronicle seven fourteen
comes into play, and my humble opinions God, is that
we're looking at all the wrong places to find a solution.
The solution is not going to be found here on earth.
The solution is going to be found when we elevate
to heaven and come into the throne room of God
and say, God, we're helpless and you are I mean
(01:01:19):
being a since this is a week of hope, because
we're the first Advent week, right, this is a week. Yeah,
God is our hope and we're looking to him to say, God,
you know, help us with this. We've we've been trying
to handle this abortion issue. I mean, just go on
down the line that's happening in our culture today that
has us so twisted up in knots and we're not
(01:01:40):
getting anywhere. I mean, you know people are getting killed
over it.
Speaker 15 (01:01:45):
They are.
Speaker 19 (01:01:46):
Yes, Yes, I couldn't agree with you more, Bill. I mean,
God has the power to do amazing things, but we
have to you know, we have to have a condition
for God to work. And when we left God and
when we drove God out of the culture of America,
and that started, you could trace it back to the
late eighteen hundreds, the early nineteen hundreds, but I think
(01:02:09):
everything picked up momentum in the nineteen sixties when we
took prayer out of school in nineteen sixty two, and
then subsequently they were about nearly a dozen Supreme Court
decisions that continuously removed God from the culture of America.
And it's not just the Supreme Court rulings. We see
that we've been very vulnerable to sort of a demonic
(01:02:32):
takeover of our institutions. I mean, it's just been incredible
to see how Hollywood has been transformed.
Speaker 13 (01:02:38):
You know.
Speaker 19 (01:02:38):
I get together with my daughter and we frequently watch
Leave It to Beaver because we have a Roku channel
and it has all all the replays going back to
the fifties, and I just delight in seeing her watch
this because she gets she gets a view of how
life was back when God was part of our culture.
(01:02:59):
And it's not that the family was overly religious. I
mean they talk about going to church, but you did
you know, you know, you don't really see them praying
or doing exactly. But but the what we see as
a picture of the culture, and the culture had problems then,
but the families knew how to deal with it. There
was you know, there was a you know, a wonderful
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relationship between the husband and the wife and the way
they raised their kids. And every every session there's a
problem to solve.
Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Yeah, but you know, the core, the core values, the
American core values at that period of time, was still valid, right.
I mean today, Leave It to Beaver wouldn't play it
would it wouldn't work, right, kind of kind of amazing
because they would just you know, they'd boycotted any of
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the sponsors and that sort of thing they would boycott against. Right.
Speaker 19 (01:03:53):
Well, that's the problem. I mean, we talked about the
takeover of our culture.
Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
It's everywhere.
Speaker 19 (01:03:59):
It's the takeover of you know, advertising agencies, of businesses.
Corporate leadership has accommodated, for lack of a better term,
really has really facilitated and accommodated the fallen nature of man.
It hasn't sought to uphold moral values that are you know,
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that have been with us for thousands of years, right,
And so it is that you know, we're reaping the
consequences as you pointed out, you know that prayer that
if we should turn to God, you know, we're going
to see you know what we're going to We're going
to see a correction in the in in our country
and our kind of leaders that we get.
Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Well when this uh, you know, I guess this forecast
in this warning that was first put out to the
children of Israel, Uh, it was because you know they
knew later ship knew at the time that Israel was
not going to be perfect, that they were going to
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they were going to fall victim, and they were going
to turn their back on God. But as a warning
to say that, look at you can hope in God.
That if you will, you know, when you find yourself
up against a hard rock here, then if you turn
to God, if you humble yourself, okay, Because it's arrogance
that gets you into trouble. And this is where America
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has been. We've been, We've been rather arrogant. And this
still you know, you talk about, you know, taking prayer
out of schools in the sixties, but actually, if you
go back, let's go back to the age of Darwin.
Darwin really, I believe back in the late nineteenth century
kind of opened the door to challenge the efficacy and
(01:05:54):
the pre eminence of God Almighty because you had people,
you know, the human inclination is I want to live
life on my terms and do as I darnwell please.
And Darwinism came in and kind of gave the key
for those that wanted to somehow be empowered without God.
(01:06:14):
That began the process. Then you get the turn of
the century and you've got a takeover of the educational system.
You know, we slowly but surely progressively minimize the impact
of God in the classroom. And so when you go
back to you know, even the development of public education
and how that came about. By that time, it was
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all very secularized, and they came in with an alternative agenda.
They told everybody, oh, we want to teach your kids,
and we want to systemize it and make it all this. Yeah,
but what people weren't seeing, what was hidden underneath their sleeve,
and underneath their sleeve that nobody could see, was an
agenda to indoctrinate, to take control of the coming generations.
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And because we were blinded by our own arrogance, we
weren't seeing what God was telling us.
Speaker 19 (01:07:07):
Right, absolutely, absolutely, the signs have been with us for
a long time. And the reality is that the truth
tellers like yourself, myself, and lots of other people were
largely marginalized in the culture.
Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Right we're you know, we're.
Speaker 19 (01:07:24):
We're getting more ascended now, which is very healthy sign.
I mean, you look at you look at the viewership
of the major media. It's at all time lows. Meanwhile,
the alternative media where people get information about what's going on,
is you know, is rising. You know, So this is all.
(01:07:44):
It's all very encouraging, but so much harm has been
done that turning this all around is very challenging because
it's everywhere.
Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
We have to turn around.
Speaker 19 (01:07:55):
All our institutions, all our government agencies have been in
filtrate it with people who do not share the views
that you just articulated.
Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Bill.
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I mean we we are the top. We have more
reserves than anyone else. Well, it's because we embraced the
Green New Deal, which was based on on falsity of
false premises exactly that we you know that we set
our energy way back. Now we're correcting that. But that's
just one area. But I think, you know, we.
Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
Well, look at let's let's go to break. We'll pick
it up on the other side. More Scott Palell after
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Back with you. We're talking with Scott Powell, Senior Fellow
at the Discovery Institute his book, Rediscovering America. I hope
you got it. If you don't make it a stocking
stuffer for yourself, even okay, put it in your own stocking,
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tell an amazing story of who we are as Americans
and why this great American idea should be held so preciously.
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If I can say that, right, I sound like Golan,
absolutely bough.
Speaker 19 (01:13:53):
We have a great story. America has a great story,
and we you know the greatest story of all of course,
the birth of Jesus Christ, the birth, the life.
Speaker 15 (01:14:04):
And and the you know, the the.
Speaker 19 (01:14:07):
Death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, which you know, which
divided history. I mean, even non Christians look at history
as before Christ or after Christ. Jesus Christ is the
most significant person that ever lived. Therefore, those of us
who live in a Christian culture, we we should be flourishing.
(01:14:30):
We we we previously were a flourishing nation. But as
we took God and Christianity out of our culture, look
at the results there there. You know, it's we were
on the we were on the precipice of really collapse.
Exactly prior to the election of Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
So well, you go back, like as you mentioned, you know,
before Jesus came on the scene, in human and human flesh,
people were very confused. Okay, they got all mired up
in all kinds of human ideas and you know, deception.
And Jesus was the tuning fork to retune society and
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humanity to the truth.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Yes, yes, and the truth is.
Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
So critical here and this is what I believe has
just been so so obvious. And you know, for me,
when I came out of Bible College, God, I just
believe that God. And why I even started doing the
show is God had said, look at I want you
to focus on a biblical worldview, and at the core
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of the Biblical worldview is the truth. You've got to
pursue the truth no matter where it leaves, so in
any kind of argument or discussion. It's amazing that you know,
the truth no longer has become a defense. The truth
has become an offense, and the truth offends people. Well,
in Jesus' time, guess what, the truth offended people and
(01:15:59):
it cost him life. And for those of us who
hold to the truth, yes, it could it could come
to that. You know, but uh, but you know, I'd
much rather die for the truth than for a life Scott.
Speaker 19 (01:16:13):
Yes, absolutely, And you know we we experienced uh uh,
you know, a profound event in in uh in our
country this very year happened when Charlie Kirk, who was
a purveyor of the truth. I mean he was. He
was a remarkable man, a center like like us, right,
but but he he not only embraced uh, Christianity, embraced
(01:16:38):
Jesus Christ as as Lord and Savior, but he practiced it.
I mean he practiced He invited discussion with people who
didn't share his views. He treated them with respect.
Speaker 4 (01:16:50):
And why would he do that? Scott, Well, he.
Speaker 19 (01:16:52):
Thought, you know, God led him to be that way.
Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
Now, but I think I think, I think I think
deeper than that because and I know you feel the
same way, and that is that you know, we're all
created in the image of God. We're absolutely precious in
the eyes of God. Every individual I think it was,
I think was C. S. Lewis, maybe the wrong one
that I'm quoting here, had made the comment that I've
(01:17:18):
never met are a mere mortal because in the context
of our creator and what he did in creating each
of us man. That is just an incredibly powerful miracle.
And I think that Charlie looked at these people in
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the same way that Jesus did when he came into
Jerusalem and he wept and he just saw God. These
people they just don't get it, you know, they don't
they don't understand. And I think that Charlie, you know,
feel the same way I do about that, and that
is that, hey, it's not about me, it's not about him,
not about you. It's it's about God's creation and the
(01:18:00):
mission that he has sent us on to take the
gospel message, the good news to the uttermost parts of
the world.
Speaker 19 (01:18:07):
Right, Yes, yes, And I think, well, you know, we're
I think we've pretty much got the Gospel almost everywhere
in the world. So we are living in very significant times, right,
And it's amazing. Earlier said that, you know, the the
truth shall set you free. What a profound statement that is.
(01:18:27):
So that if we we really embrace that, if we
always pursue the truth in everything, we're going you know,
we're going to flourish, we're going to succeed, we're going
to you know, we're going to end up in a
better place. And you know, we're in this terrible place
(01:18:48):
because you know, we were not pursuing the.
Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Truth, right, because the ultimate result of the truth, Scott
is freedom. Freedom, freedom that even in our constitution, the
founders of our country realized that freedom was something that
came from God. It was an inalienable right. It came
with our creation from our creator, right right. Yeah, So
(01:19:10):
so there it is. That's to me, the highest calling
that God has given us is for us to truly
be the best version of ourselves and be free and
have a great opportunity to be able to realize that right.
Speaker 19 (01:19:22):
Absolutely, absolutely, And when you know, when you're free, you know, uh,
you're You're transparent, you're consistent, you you're reliable. People can
trust you because you always tell the truth. You're you know,
you don't have two faces to your character or three
faces or four faces.
Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
You are who you are and even and even when
you make a mistake, you are enough of who you
are to be able to say, you know what I
messed up instead of being like some governor who says,
oh that's you know, I didn't know about that, or
why are you picking on a minority class, and you
know all this other stuff as opposed to just saying, gosh,
(01:20:02):
you're right, I really messed up and we need to
fix this problem right away because it's costing. It's costing
the citizenry and the federal taxpayers billions of dollars.
Speaker 19 (01:20:13):
Right right, absolutely, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
So again, this is all just a case in point,
and you can look at this at every turn and
and nobody's claiming perfection here. I mean, this is all
a process and absolutely, and I pray and I pray
that as we opened up this conversation with Scott Powell,
that you start your journey on that process. It starts
first of all with humbling yourself and realizing, hey, we're
(01:20:40):
not too big for our bridges, that the solutions are
beyond us, they're bigger than us. But God, God is
in control, and God is just waiting there for us
to humble ourselves enough to say, Father, help us, right.
Speaker 19 (01:20:54):
That's right, Absolutely help me. I mean to coming to
Jesus is the ultimate humbling experience, because we're we're saying
that I screwed up, I'm a sinner, I can't solve
my own problems, and I need you Lord to come
into my life. I need you to come into my
life and correct me because I'm a train wreck.
Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
Yeah without without without Jesus. Yes, and and uh, you
know it's before Jesus, after Jesus, you know. That's uh,
that's all our life story. And in between is the
process of this sanctifying experience that the Holy Spirit and
Jesus uh partners us, partners with us to say, hey,
you know, before, before we're done here, because I've made
(01:21:40):
a promise, I'm going to complete what I began in you, right,
That's what he says, until the end, until until we're
face to face. So he's saying to you, Scott, you're
my guy, You're my man. I'm still with you, right,
that's right. And he says that to all of us.
Speaker 19 (01:21:57):
And you know, God really created us uh to have fulfilling,
meaningful and joyful lives. So if we really understand that
that He created us for that and that he can
give that to us if we invite him in, then wow,
that's you know, who doesn't want a meaningful, fulfilling and
(01:22:18):
joyful life. If you want that, invite Jesus Christ into
your life and you will get it.
Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
And will you tell me, tell me, tell me what politician,
what figure what entertainment figure can offer that kind of package,
Scott Palell. None of them, right, only one, only one,
only one. Yeah, that's right. He's the way, the truth
and the life, and he's the only way and the one.
You're exactly right, Scott Palell. Scott, I just so appreciate
(01:22:47):
you again. Congratulations on rediscovering America, which is still available,
by the way, I mean, for many weeks was that
a number one Amazon new release in the history genre,
and it's available still right there, and you.
Speaker 19 (01:23:00):
Will be getting a bit of a second life after
Charlie Kirk and just you know, the book is really
a timeless book. It can it'll be as true in
ten years or twenty years or thirty years. And it
was written very carefully to be short and very readable
for people because everybody's so busy, so I purposely wrote
(01:23:21):
it succinctly and short. And it's written as a story,
a successive stories of America. And you know, people can
read it, you know, chapter by chapter. They can put
it down, pick it up a month later and read
a new chapter and benefit from it. You walk away
(01:23:42):
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about America.
Speaker 15 (01:23:46):
That is we found.
Speaker 4 (01:23:47):
Exactly and as we come and draw near to our
two hundred and fiftieth year anniversary, Scott, Wow, even more so.
I mean I'm looking forward to, you know, a great
period of patriotism in these coming months, as we come
into July and celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth birthday.
(01:24:08):
He's the author, member of the committee on this present
Danger China, and a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute,
Mister Scott Palis. Scott, thank you so much for being
with us. Appreciate you, absolutely, Thank you.
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Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Good morning, welcome back. Good to have you with us.
Bill Martinez here and we're gonna be talking crypto. A
lot of curiosity about crypto, and of course we have
just the right person here to tell us all about it,
because she's saying, forget gift cards and cash. New studies
finding the consumers are gifting crypto this holiday season. She's
the crypto industry expert. Ali Tager joins us. Now, Ali,
(01:28:45):
welcome show. Good to have you with us, Thank you
for having me. Okay, well, the gift season is upon us,
and you're saying, hey, before you stock up on those
traditional gift cards, you might want to consider the gift
of crypto.
Speaker 21 (01:28:57):
Huh, that's exactly right. Sotional Cryptocurrency Association teamed up with
PayPal to survey shoppers ahead of the holiday season, and
what we found is that crypto is a trending holiday gift,
especially compared to gift cards. We found that about a
quarter of US adults have already given or thinking about
giving the gift of crypto this holiday season, and nearly
one in five say that they would rather receive crypto
(01:29:19):
than a gift card. When it comes to crypto holders,
interest is even higher, with about two thirds of them
planning to give the gift of crypto and about half
expecting to receive it themselves.
Speaker 4 (01:29:29):
What's causing this increase curiosity or what?
Speaker 21 (01:29:33):
Yeah, absolutely, crypto is going increasingly mainstream. We're seeing lots
of retailers merchant's businesses accepting crypto at checkout, and we're
also seeing lots of individual consumers getting on chain and
trying crypto for the first time. Is a new digital
way to interact in the modern economy. And so the
reasons that people are turning to crypto, they told us
in our new survey more so than gift cards, is
it gives you much more flexibility with when, where and
(01:29:55):
how you spend it. Plus you can invest it so
it can actually grow in value over time. It's also easier, faster,
and more fun and exciting to receive compared to a
gift card. And it comes with less fees, gives you
more privacy and quicker processing, which works out better for
the shopper as well as the retailer.
Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
A can you walk us through a little bit, You know,
for some of our audience that are hearing this and
they've been curious about crypto and going, okay, well, you know,
I haven't gone there yet, I haven't engaged it, so
I don't know how does it work.
Speaker 21 (01:30:25):
Absolutely so. Crypto works very similarly to other financial technology
that you probably already know and love, like PayPal and
like Venmo. So right now, when you go ahead and
set up a crypto wallet, which you can do directly
through your PayPal app, it's connected to your real bank accounts,
so it's connected to your real funds, and then you
can go ahead and start transacting. You can use it
at checkout, just like you would with Venmo or PayPal,
(01:30:48):
or even a credit card or cash. You can use
it when you're shopping online, and you can use it
to send money to friends and family directly right through
your phone or computer.
Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Well, you touched on some of the advantages. I want
to rein force those advantages, and this is what is
really I mean, it's one thing when you first tried,
but when you realize first of all, it's user friendly,
easy to engage with, and then you have these other
benefits that come into play. People more and more are
beginning to lean more into the crypto pathway, right.
Speaker 21 (01:31:20):
That's exactly right. We're definitely seeing crypto going increasingly more
mainstream with adoption on the rise. I think what's great
about crypto is it gives you full ownership and control
over your assets. It cuts out the middlemen who sort
of to add time and stops and take cuts along
the way. Plus it's accessible twenty four to seven no
matter where in the world you are, as long as
you have an Internet connection. So those are just some
(01:31:41):
of the reasons that we're seeing people get really excited
about crypto, and a big part of what we're working
on at the NCAA is actually helping people understand all
you can do with crypto beyond just investing. That's absolutely
a top reason why people turn to it. But you
can also, as we're talking about right now, spend it
when you're holiday shopping, gifted to loved ones. Plus there
are plenty of other ways that you can use this technology.
(01:32:02):
People are actually using it to power their businesses, to
pay their employees and vendors, to give themselves financial freedom,
especially in parts of the country and the world where
there aren't as many banks and you don't want to
have to wait for Monday through Friday nine to five
to go and cash a check or talk to a
bank teller.
Speaker 4 (01:32:21):
What about, speaking of banks, what about bank fees? Is
this minimized bank.
Speaker 21 (01:32:24):
Fees absolutely so there is no real banks involved, so
that completely cuts out those fees. So that goes back
to the not only fewer fees and faster processing, but
the added privacy because crypto is you know, it doesn't
care who you are, it doesn't care what you look like.
Crypto holders come from all walks of life. A third
of crypto holders or women, so it's not just the
(01:32:45):
bros that we've heard about. It's also not just for
the wealthy. About a quarter of crypto owning households make
less than seventy five thousand dollars a year, which of
course is a ton of money, but it is still
in the grand scheme of things, not just for sort
of the uber one percent. And we're really seeing crypto
level of economic playing field and be adopted by, you know,
(01:33:06):
people across religions, regions, races, cities, suburbs, rural areas. It's
really for everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
It's really universal. I love this. We're talking with Ellie Tager.
She's the head of Communications of the National Cryptocurrency Association,
where she helps Americans make sense of crypto by sharing
real stories of how it benefits everyday life and supporting
the communities with the most to gain. Ali what other
things about the study did we learn?
Speaker 21 (01:33:33):
Yeah, so with the study, we definitely reinforce sort of
what we've already been seeing, which is that crypto is
being used by more and more people in more and
more ways. But we also know that as people are
increasingly hearing about crypto, very often they're hearing about it
through the clickbaity headlines and Internet trolls, and so we
really want to cut through the noise, forget about the hype,
forget about the jargon, and help people understand it all
(01:33:55):
in a safe space that just makes sense. And so
that's what the NCAA is working on with free resources
that will help teach you how to use crypto, how
you can interact with it safely, confidently, responsibly, how to
keep an eye out for scams, the different types of
cryptocurrency tokens and coins available to you, and so much
more on our website, plus lots more hands on resources
(01:34:16):
that I'd love to tell you about if you have
a few more minutes.
Speaker 4 (01:34:18):
Oh, we've got We've got four minutes here, so we
got plenty. I mean, this is fascinating. I wish I
had more time with you, because, you know, because one
of the questions that came up right away was do
you have to use PayPal as the app to get
connected with it?
Speaker 21 (01:34:31):
There are plenty of apps out there that let you buy, send, sell,
trade and holds crypto, from PayPal to coinbase, uphold, and
many many more. So there are exchanges that let you
make the trades and transactions, and then there are wallets
which actually helps you control your crypto and gain access
to it. So the nc is excited to be partnering
(01:34:52):
with PayPal because they are such a trusted brand in
that we've all known and loved for so many years,
and we're really working to make crypto simple and accessible
so that everyone everywhere can participate. So the NCAA recently
launched some hands on resources from one oh one interactive
courses with lessons and quizzes to teach you the basics
to a weekly Crypto Explained podcast where we not only
(01:35:15):
do little snippets of snackable explainers of sort of different
crypto topics and key takeaways to make it really easy
for you, but once you sort of start to get
the basics, we also have a hands on risk free
simulator that lets you mirror all of the real behaviors
of setting up a crypto wallet, making a transaction, sending
money to friends. But this is completely risk free because
(01:35:37):
it's not actually connected to real money, so it mirrors
all of those real behaviors, but is a complete safe space.
Speaker 4 (01:35:42):
For you to learn what a great idea. I love
what you're doing here. What else? Because we got you know,
we got a couple of minutes left here, what else
you were excited to share with us? Go ahead?
Speaker 21 (01:35:52):
Absolutely, I would say more broadly, people again, think about
we've heard about crypto through the headlines and through fraud
and scams. What we found is that crypto so unfortunately,
there are scammers and fraudsters lurking in every corner of
the Internet, and so any scams or schemes that we
see with crypto, like phishing or impersonation. You get a
random text asking you to click a link. You see
(01:36:13):
an AI generated image of somebody saying I'm a celebrity
and I need you to send me a little bit
of money and I'll send you lots more back. These
are the same scams that we've seen time and time
again throughout history. Crypto is just one other type of
financial tool. But the scams that we see with Crypto
are the same that we see with any other online
finance or even any other online tool like dating apps.
(01:36:35):
So I think it's really important for people to trust
verified sources, do their own research, and make sure that
they are not just deterred by what the sort of
clickbait is saying, but that they're actually learning the information
themselves so that they can figure out if and how
Crypto might be able to fit into their lives. Because
more than three quarters of Crypto holders told us it's
making a really positive impact on their lives, and so
(01:36:57):
we want to help more people be able to participate.
Speaker 4 (01:37:00):
Well exactly in this gift giving season. I mean, your
gift could really stand out. I mean you imagine giving
somebody in the family a gift of crypto and you
know what is this and you know what kind of excitement.
I mean, your gift could stand out very easily this
holiday season right by going crypto.
Speaker 21 (01:37:20):
That's exactly right. And I don't know about you, but
I know I have a drawer full of dusty old
gift cards from years past that no disrespect to my
loved ones who gave those to me. But you know,
you have to spend the exact right amount, at the
exact right place, in the exact right time. And so
we're seeing crypto as a modern take on a classic
gift and just a new, more fun, digital way to
(01:37:42):
interact and transact.
Speaker 4 (01:37:44):
Yeah, and it could be the gift that keeps on
giving because now you've introduced them to this new portal
that brings a lot of ease and convenience.
Speaker 21 (01:37:53):
Right, that's exactly right. We always say with crypto, all
you need is an Internet connection. You've got your cell
phone in your pocket, and you can take all your
money with you, all of your digital assets with you
wherever you go, whenever you go. And it's fast, it's free,
it's accessible twenty four to seven. And so we're here
to spread the word, get to the truth about who's
really using crypto in America, how and why. And for
(01:38:13):
those who are curious but a little bit apprehensive, maybe
it's too feels too complicated, they're overwhelmed by everything they've
heard about it, which is a big barrier to entry.
We're here to cut through the noise, remove the jargon,
make it super simple. This is a technology, It is
a digital asset. It gives you full ownership and control
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Speaker 4 (01:38:33):
No middlemen exactly where can they go? For more information?
Speaker 21 (01:38:37):
To check out our resources and learn more, visit nca
dot org and visit the PayPal apps, which lets you buy,
send and holds Crypto plus so much more because together
the NCAA and Crypto and PayPal are working to make
crypto really simple.
Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
Alli Taylor, thank you so much. You're a gift. I mean,
you're awesome. Thank you so much. She's the head of
Communications at the National Cryptocurrency Association.
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Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Good morning, America. Welcome. Good to have you with us.
Bill Martinez here along with Bill Pascow, Tea Party, Patriots
Citizens' Fun Political Director tpp's man in Washington. Mister Bill,
how are we doing. Good to be with you, Bill, Hey,
always good to have you here. I want to talk about,
you know, all this controversy about the double tap, and
you know all that's going on, and I got to,
(01:43:25):
you know, my own perspective on this is that this
is why you can't have civilians conducting war intelligence and strategy.
Speaker 23 (01:43:38):
Well, you know what we've got going on here is
we've got an invasion of the United States from broad
President Trump has determined that the decades long war against
the United States actually is a war, except only one
side has been fighting it and that's the other side.
So now President Trump comes in and says, you know what,
we're losing. Tens of thousands of Americans year die from
(01:44:00):
drug overdoses. If a foreign enemy declared war on us
and caused the deaths of one hundred thousand Americans every year.
We would know that we were in a war. There
wouldn't be any there wouldn't be any doubt about this,
and the Congress would act accordingly. But because it happens slowly,
it happens in dark alleys, It happens in dark places,
(01:44:22):
It happens in the soft underbelly of our society. It doesn't,
you know, it's not splashed across the front page of
the New York Times, in the Washington Post and CBS
News every day. So this carnage takes place year after year,
and it goes unaddressed. While President Trump has decided to
address it. He recognizes that it is a war, that
(01:44:43):
we have an enemy, and he's declared war on that enemy.
He's declared that we're in an armed conflict, and that
means that we are going to use the military assets
of the United States government, not just undercover agents, not
just the DEA and the FBI trying to break foreign cartels.
We're going to use the armed forces of the United States.
(01:45:04):
And he has stepped it up, shall we said, several notches,
and we're now attacking these people who have been attacking
us for a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:45:14):
Well, Bill, we've had the war on drugs. Going back
to Nixon, right, I think he was one of the
first presidents to identify and say, hey, we have the
war on drugs. Carter picked up on it, of course
Ford as well, and it's just been a refrain. First
ladies along the way have talked about the war on drugs,
but it's just been all rhetoric. It's taken Donald Trump
(01:45:39):
to say, look at we're declaring a war on drugs,
and we're going to make it official and declare that
these perpetrators and these drug runners are a recognized terrorists.
They're the enemy of the state. They're responsible for killing
over one hundred thousand of America's best every year, and
(01:46:01):
they've been doing that what for the last six seven
years now, Bill.
Speaker 23 (01:46:06):
Not just for the last six or seven. But but
let's go back to your fundamental point, rhetoric. You're exactly right.
President Nixon declared war on drugs. I think every president
since then has at one point or another mentioned the
war on drugs. In the nineteen eighties, Ronald Reagan stepped
it up by creating a cabinet level Office of Drug
Control Policy. And you remember the first director of the
(01:46:28):
Office of Drug Control Policy, if I remember correctly, was
Bill Bennett. He was named the Drug Zarr. So we
have somebody in our government that we refer to as
a czar, but the czar has no troops until Donald
Trump came along and said, you know what, you guys
have been talking about this like it was a war
for sixty years, but only one side has been waging war,
(01:46:51):
and it's the other side. We're going to stop that.
We're going to deploy the military assets of the United
States government. And you're very right to point out that
he declared them he as part of the preparation for
launching armed conflict. He declared them foreign terrorist organizations. These
aren't just drug cartels. We're not going to stop them
(01:47:12):
from breaking the law. We're going to wage war on them.
We're not going to throw FBI agents into the breach.
We're going to throw Seal Team six into the breach.
The guy who led the operation on September two, Admiral Bradley,
the head of the Joint Special Operations Command, was a
leader of Seal Team six earlier in his career. So
(01:47:33):
when I say Seal Team six. I'm not just saying
that rhetorically, we're actually using navy seals against the drug
traffickers exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:47:43):
Well, do you think that Venezuela and the terrorists are
starting to get the memo here?
Speaker 23 (01:47:50):
They've been receiving that message, but apparently they seem maybe
they think maybe they're testing President Trump to see, gee,
you know, maybe the gringo from up north just wants
a couple of headlines, and so he spends a couple
of months sending the US Navy into the breach, and
they'll blow up a dozen or a couple a dozen
(01:48:12):
of our drug boats, and then things will go back
to normal. I don't think that's going to be the case.
I think if one thing has been demonstrated over the
first four years of President's Trump ter President Trump's term,
and now the second eleven months of his second term,
I think it's very clear that he can be like
a dog with a bone. When he gets in his mouth,
(01:48:34):
you have a hard time getting him to focus on
anything else. And he has now decided that he wants
Pete Hegseth and the Department of War to do what
they do to wage war against the people who have
been waging war against us.
Speaker 4 (01:48:48):
It's very simple, exactly. Yeah, yeah, there's no need to
reproduce what we did in Vietnam, where you had civilians,
you know, running the orchestra. Here and again you listen
to these democrats and these other people, many of them
that have never been in the military and don't understand
war and what it is, what it's all about. You know,
(01:49:10):
it's not about about playing patty cake here. When you
declare war and you go to war, you go to win.
And Trump has that mindset and that focus, and so
does Pete Hegsett and the military as a result of this,
are again reinspired Bill Pasco, because then they go, okay, great,
(01:49:32):
you've taken the handcuffs off and we get to do
what we do best.
Speaker 23 (01:49:37):
Well, you're exactly right, and let's talk about what that
means in real life. So the first assault against the
drug traffickers came on September second. We've all seen. We've
all seen the unclassified version of the first part of
the strike where the missile strikes the boat with eleven
Narco traffickers on it. We know now from people who
(01:49:59):
have been in the room, who have seen the full
video that for the first half hour after that strike,
everything is obscured by black smoke. That's not surprising. That
boat was almost destroyed, but it wasn't fully destroyed. It
turns out that after the smoke cleared, about half an
hour after the blast, you could see that the front
part of the boat was still floating. It had been
(01:50:22):
flipped over, and you can see that there are two
survivors trying to flip the remains of the boat over.
According to Pentagon sources who have talked to the media,
they think that the boat, that that part of the
boat was still floating because it was it was carrying
the cocaine, and the cocaine apparently gave it a buoyance.
So there's two guys who are trying to flip the
(01:50:44):
boat over. Now that under the laws of war means
that they are not shipwrecked survivors. If they were unable
to do anything, then the laws of war say they
have to be protected. Not only can we not attack them,
but we, as the combatants, we're obligated under the laws
of war to try to rescue them because they had
been rendered out of the fight. That's not what we
(01:51:06):
saw and what I found particularly interesting was last week.
On Thursday, Admiral Bradley went to Capitol Hill to talk
behind closed doors with the chairman and the ranking member
of the House and Senate Arm Services Committee. Tom Cotton
was in that room. Tom Cotton is the guy who
spent two years of his life walking the route guarding
(01:51:26):
the tomb of the Unknown Soldier. This is a guy
who knows military law. He went to Harvard Law. By
the way, he knows the law. He knows military law.
He has more respect for the traditions in the military,
I would wager than the vast majority of his colleagues
in the United States Senate. And when we first learned
about the so called second tap, the second strike that
was ordered to take out the remaindance of the boat,
(01:51:47):
he kept his mouth shut. He wouldn't say anything until
he got his eyes on the video. He wanted to
see what this looked like. And after he saw the
video on Thursday, he came out and while the Democrats
can continued their line of Oh, this was terrible, Oh
this was a war crime, Oh this was murder, Tom
Cotton very calmly said this was a righteous strike. He
(01:52:09):
didn't say this was a legal strike. He didn't say
this was a justified strike. Those are both inherent when
you say this was a righteous strike exactly, very positive, aggressive,
affirmative term. And I think that settles the debate for
most senators right well.
Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
And because Cotton is so well respected, as you said,
in his you know, his bonavites are very well established,
so you know when he speaks and they listen, and
I think that you shut the door on it. But
of course the Democrats are doing They're scrambling, you know,
trying to find any kind of wedge, because after all,
they're still trying to recover from that seditious six silliness
(01:52:51):
of you know, trying to I don't know, interfere with
the military chain of command.
Speaker 15 (01:52:59):
Right.
Speaker 23 (01:53:00):
They're not just trying to recover from the seditious sixth.
They're still trying to recover from last November, from the
lacking they took when President Trump didn't lose a single
battleground state the Democrat. The Democrats are still trying to
figure out which end is up. You're You're absolutely right.
They are just they are throwing stuff against the wall,
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trying to see if anything will stick, because they can't
lay a glove on President Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:53:27):
Right, So now they're throwing Jasmine Crockett in Texas. Get ready.
Speaker 23 (01:53:33):
Oh, I so hope she wins that primary. You know,
she's she's such a fearsome person. She already scared Colin
Allred out of that night. Here's a guy who'd been
running for the Senate for months now, and she announces,
or she let she hadn't even announced. To keep this
in mind, he actually announced before she did. He knew
what she was going to do. Yesterday was the filing
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deadline in Texas, so he knew that that she was
going to announce for the Senate. He's that I better
get out of this race because I have no chance
of winning this primary. So he's going to run for
Congress instead. She's running for the Senate. I hope to
gosh she wins. That leaves her running against a state
senator by the name of James Tallerico who made a
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little bit of a name for himself. You remember several
months ago when when the Texas Legislature was getting ready
to do the redistricting exercise. Right, he was one of
the Democrats who led the Democrats as they as they
fled to Oklahoma and Illinois. And parts West and parts
north to try to keep the legislature from meeting with
a quorum. He made a little bit of a name
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for himself. I think she's got a much better chance
of winning that primary. And I hope to gosh, whether
whether it's Wesley Hunt or Ken Paxton or John Cornyan
who is the Republican nominee. Jasmine Crockett is going to
learn what Texans think of her.
Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
Well again, and the donor is there in Texas are
going to learn that you got to quit, you know,
spending stupid money.
Speaker 15 (01:55:02):
Right.
Speaker 23 (01:55:03):
I'm perfectly happy to let Democrat donors continue to spend
stupid money.
Speaker 15 (01:55:07):
Bill.
Speaker 23 (01:55:08):
I guess they've got plenty of it, and I'm happy
to see them spend it. Please spend more, spend more.
Speaker 4 (01:55:14):
Well, it looks like they're getting ready to do it.
They're opening up their checkbook, so stay tuned for details.
He's the Tea Party, Patriots Citizen Fun political director tpp's
man in Washington, Bill Pasco. Thank you, Bill, take care.
Always good to b with you, Bill, Always take care.
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