The Bill Martinez Show 12 12 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 12 25

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you ready, Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live,
a program about current events, our culture, our values, our politics,
and our future.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
And now Bill Martinez.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well, good morning America. Six minutes after the top of
the hour. Bill Martinez here along with doctor Paul Kenor,
professional professor of political science and Chief Academic Fellow at
the Institute for Faith and Freedom at Grove City College. Paul,
good morning, Good to have you with us.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Yeah, good morning, Bill.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
We got about six inches of snow here in western Pennsylvania.
Definitely a white Christmas for sure.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
But not frightful though, right, well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
The roads this morning are kind of frightful. My wife
just walked in the door, and I was happy to
see her.

Speaker 6 (00:46):
Believe me.

Speaker 7 (00:47):
I was like, you pretty treacherous out there.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, I imagine in that kind of weather, you know,
loved ones leave, you know, go out the door, and
you start burning novena candles.

Speaker 7 (00:56):
You know, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'm with you on it, burning novena candles. I think
Maduro is looking for novena candles to burn after you know,
President Trump seized his one of his tankers, right of course,
And it's always the biggest. I love Trump whenever he
seeses anything or doesn't, it's it's the biggest ever in
the history, right, right.

Speaker 7 (01:18):
Right, while Medora has kind of metaphorically burned all.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
The oil in Venezuela, right, I mean, and by the way,
it's a great example of what socialism gives you. At
one point, Venezuela was the largest oil exporter.

Speaker 7 (01:29):
In the entire Western hemisphere.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
And I mean a lot of people don't realize that
at one point we got more foreign oil from Venezuela
in America than we did in the Middle East.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
And then what.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
Happened, Well, the Venezuelan people kind of elected Hugo Chavez.
You know, leave it once again to some of these
Latin American countries to elect a socialist.

Speaker 7 (01:51):
It was, it was a skewed election.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
But then once these guys are in, they're in, right,
they hold their quote unquote elections every few years, and
they they you know, they tamper with him and it's
almost impossible to get him out. So Chavez, Chavez puts
him in place, you know, kind of a socialist communist state,
one of the least free countries in the world, probably
only Cuba. His mentor Fidel Castro and North Korea under

(02:17):
the Kyms are probably the only countries that are worse.
And then he died kind of early. I think it
was maybe only in his late fifties when he died
to kept the faith, went to Havana for for cancer
treatment which was probably like leeches and you know, maybe hypnosis,

(02:38):
and you know, I don't know whatever it was.

Speaker 7 (02:40):
But he kept the faith and he died. You've got
that great health.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Care that Cuba that all the liberals in America tell
us about. So he turns over the keys to Nicholas Maduro,
and Meduro has been a thorn in the side of
the people of Venezuela and the entire Western hemisphere ever since.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
So I'm glad to see Donald Trump taking him on.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
I don't know where exactly this is going to go.
I keep thinking of this though, Bill, you and I
are old enough to remember. I remember being in college
on Christmas Day in nineteen eighty nine when we invaded
Panama and when after Manuel Noriega, and I keep thinking, like,
you know, December twenty twenty five. At this point, we're

(03:24):
about two weeks from Christmas. I wonder if something like
this is going to happen with America and Venezuela. I
don't know, not exactly what you want to see on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Morning, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (03:34):
Yeah, I don't know who this is going to go.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, all I want for Christmas is regime change there.
And of course, meanwhile, you've got the president in exile,
you know, the Venezuelan leader, Maria Corrina Machado sneaks her
way into Oslo, Norway, under disguise and receives the Nobel
Peace Prize.

Speaker 7 (03:58):
Yeah, yeah, I'm very impressed with her.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
And you know, we were all everybody was pushing for
Donald Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize after what
happened with Israel and the Abraham Accords there just a
few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
And not to mention eight other countries that he kept
them from war or stopped the war, right, And you know,
it's just unbelievable what he's been able to do. And
this is why, Paul I tell you, Donald Trump has
introduced an aspect and element to tariffs that heretofore has
not been I guess exercised maybe historically, I think back,

(04:35):
I don't know that any other president ever used tariffs
to stop wars.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah no, and he's really done it in a very
innovative way. And I've got a lot of conservative friends,
free market guys, and really good guys, really thoughtful guys
who don't like this at all because it's hurting their business.

Speaker 6 (04:52):
They believe.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
But if you look at the overall data on this,
I mean, people were talking about this is going to
be another Smoot Holly tariffs situation, right, this is going
to cast everybody into a global depression, and.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
That hasn't happened at all.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
I've seen mixed data on you know, net positive effect
net negative, but it hasn't led to like, you know,
this downward spiral of retaliatory tariffs like we saw in
nineteen thirty. And Donald Trump, I mean, people don't get this.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
Well, a lot of people do get it, but you know,
he's a.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Businessman and he understands economics, he understands tariffs.

Speaker 7 (05:31):
He really does know how that stuff works.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
And he also knows how incredibly big and vast and
diverse the American economy is and our.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
GDP our GNP. So he's so far, so good.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
I think it hasn't been the catastrophe everybody thought.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
And he really has.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
Used the tariffs in a you know, a kind of
bargaining way, punitive in some cases in which it's deserved,
and Trump seven million times. Well, the problem with country
countries like China is that they cheat. Yeah, And at
some point, I mean, you can't just be a sap
and a sucker. You've got to You've got to turn

(06:12):
back at the cheater and say, all right, tip for tap,
if you're going to do that to us, here's what
we're gonna.

Speaker 7 (06:17):
Do to you.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
Well, you know, we can't be the only one playing
by the rules in US.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
So to Paul, as you mentioned, because he is a businessman,
he understands. He's smart enough to see what's going on.
I mean he he's got all the numbers, he's got
all the data, and he sees what sectors are hurting,
and he also understands why some of them may be
hurting and some of them as I'm looking at this, Paul, Uh,
the ones that align themselves with the previous administration and

(06:46):
Democratic Party policies, they're the ones that are the most
exposed and vulnerable. The other ones that weren't, you know,
UH saddled and slaves to UH. All all the scams
that the Biden administration, you know, thrust upon our economy.
They're the ones that are you know, seem to be

(07:07):
more vibrant. I mean, even Secretary of Bergham this morning
stated that when it comes to energy, for example, Paul,
the states that are that are doing really great, that
are producing you know, you go to the gas pump
and you're getting gas in the low two dollars. There
was I think there was like seven states last week
that were under two dollars. Here in Florida, I went

(07:29):
and got gas the other day was two dollars and
fifty nine cents. And what he said that was consistent. Again,
we get reds and blues. The red states when it
comes to energy, are more successful. Rates are lower. The
Blue states are the ones that are paying the high prices.
And they're the ones that are you know, kind of
because we got we gotta put them in the mix.

(07:50):
They're the ones that are kind of imbalancing the cost
of gas and showing gas a little bit higher because
I think nationally we're just we're just around three dollars
I guess now nationally, but we'd even be lower if
you took the Blue states out.

Speaker 7 (08:05):
Yeah, well, no, question about that.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
In fact, Pennsylvania, where I live, is a really odd place.
We actually have the highest gas taxes in the country,
even worse in some ways in California.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
I was gonna say worse in California.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
I know, it's really an odd thing when you crunch
the data, you have to look at it. But Pennsylvania
and California are two worse. And I don't know what
California is. It's probably still four and a half dollars
a gallon or something.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's been staying pretty steady around five bucks.

Speaker 7 (08:32):
Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
But in Pennsylvania right now it's down in the low
three dollar range, maybe about three ten, three twenty. And
I have this big, giant, twelve passenger van that we
call it our family Baptist church van. Right, I have
eight kids, and it's a thirty gallon tank, and I
can tell you build it for like in the last

(08:54):
five or six years, when I've had to fill it up,
it literally costs over one hundred dollars to fill it up.
So I actually have had occasions in the last few
weeks where I filled it up from a completely empty
tank and kept it under one hundred dollars.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
And I thought Wow, look at that right. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 8 (09:10):
Right.

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And We're back with you, has promised Bill Martinez. Here
with Paul kendaran American author and professor of political science
at at Grove City College. He's the senior director of
the Institute Faith and Freedom at Grove City College think
tank and a visiting fellow at the Stanford University's Hoover
Institution of War, Revolution and Peace. Paul, as you were
saying Hallelujah, I mean lower gas prices in the Baptist

(14:14):
van is not costing so much when it comes to
filling up the guess tank, right.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
And also circling this back to Donald Trump.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Here in Pennsylvania, which of course Donald Trump won, making
Pennsylvania red state once again, we have fracking in this
part of the state. In fact, I'm like literally looking
out my back window and I'm probably over shale gas
reserves right now on the street that I'm on. I
had someone knocking on the door about ten years ago
asking to buy property right money from our house, going

(14:46):
up and down our street.

Speaker 7 (14:47):
Because this entire area, Coal.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Country, steel Country is really rich in those resources. And
in fact, speaking of oil, oil was first drilled in
America domestically here in penns Sylvania, Titusville, Quaker State oil City.

Speaker 7 (15:03):
Oil City is.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
About a thirty minute drive from my house, then eventually
went to Texas and eventually went to the Middle East
and also places like Venezuela. But here, Yeah, because of
what Donald Trump has done for fracking and energy, all
completely contrary to what any of the Democrats would have done.
Especially Kamala Harris has been huge for this area. And

(15:28):
I should also add, you know, the industry that uses
so much oil steel US Steel, you know, the Pittsburgh Steelers, right,
that's all part of this area. The people in this
area are thrilled Bill that Donald Trump came in and
working He and JD.

Speaker 7 (15:46):
Vance, Marco Rubio and by the way.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Working with people like John Fetterman, Joe Mansion from West Virginia,
even Shared Brown of Ohio who was defeated in the
last election. But they all together to to to quite
literally keep US Steel called US steel because because the
Japanese wanted to buy it, they wanted to change the

(16:09):
name to Nippon Steel. And you know what Trump has
done in western Pennsylvania for the steel industry is something
that every blue collar union American.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
I mean, they had to be building statues.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
To exactly with holy water, holy water coming out of.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
His left ear right, that's exactly what he's saying.

Speaker 19 (16:30):
Yeah, right, right, right.

Speaker 3 (16:32):
But no, you're well, And the thing is is that, yeah,
I mean, he really did. He did so much in
reviving uh, you know, Pittsburgh, and and of course his
uh you know, Susie Wiles gets the President on the
road saying, hey, look at you got to start pounding
the mission drum. Again of affordability, and Pennsylvania's his first stop, right,

(16:54):
that's right.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
And she's really good by the way. I mean she
once again is.

Speaker 5 (16:57):
This like under the radar, uh player with Trump advisor
who really really helps keep him on track and and
reminds him of who his constituency is, which smart politics
to do and say to say smart politics. Also it
almost sounds a bit cynical, right, it's not so much

(17:20):
that they're playing politics, but her pointing out the good
things that he's done, that that people need to be
cognizant of, the they need they need to remember that.

Speaker 7 (17:29):
And she's very good, you know, kind of pulling.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Him back from the edge when he's just about to
go and do something you know, kind of impetuous and stupid.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, and say, you know, stay stay.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Focused here on what you did in western Pennsylvania or
what you did here, because you did a good thing
here and people need to know this, and uh, you
know that's where your presidency should be focused.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
She seems to be able to control his emotions and
he's a very passionate man, and she brings him back,
she seems to bring him back to you know, ground zero,
brings him back down to earth here.

Speaker 5 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree one of presenting he
needs more people like that. And I would say generally
as a commentary bill on his second term, I mean,
it's so much better than the first because he really
has the people around him that serve his interests.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
In that first term.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
This you know, this businessman from New York kind of
went to probably the r n C and other Republican
Party players and said, Okay, who do I get for
my Secretary of Defense?

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Right?

Speaker 5 (18:36):
Who do I get my National security advisor? And so
they end up getting people like Rex Tillerson and Maddis
and all these other.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Kind of.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
Exactly kind of you know, smump preachers.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Now this time around, he goes and he picks someone
like Pete Hegseth for Secretary of Defense.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Right, We're all like, wow hegseeth right.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Somebody that that he came to meet through Fox News,
but then realized that this was a guy.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
Who was super smart and maybe could do a job
like that.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, Susie Wilds, and just really
just the whole host of different people that he has it.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
In cash Ptel and you know, you know, you look
at that cabinet, Paul, and we remember not that long
ago when you would see rarely but you would see
Biden's cabinet. It just doesn't compare mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
No, that's right.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
And and Joe Biden, I mean, whatever the cabinet was,
whoever was in charge of the signing pen. And what
was really, of course a real great frustration and mystery
of Joe Biden was how much of what was coming
out of his administration was his doing. And you and
I talked a number of times about how Joe Biden

(19:53):
back when he was in the Senate, it was kind
of a fairly moderate Democrat, right, like on an is
like abortion, he was, you know, he was quote unquote
pro choice, but it wasn't terrible. At least he supported
the High Amendment, right, he was against taxpayer funding of
abortion for people had religious objections, he honored those. And

(20:16):
then he gets in there and he goes against all
of that, becomes this kind of lgbt Q radical. Speaking
of defense appointments, right, he makes you know, Rachel Richard
Dick Levine an honorary four star admiral something like that, right,
you know, compare compare Rachel Levine to like R. F.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
K Junior.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
So, but but with Biden, it was just this completely chaotic,
crazy situation.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
And if the President of.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Times didn't even know who he was talking to we're
talking about, he'd know the conference, he'd have a statement
on Maduro when he'd go out, and he'd read it,
and the president been a kim Il sung right.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
It was just it was just absurd, the whole thing.
At least now we know who's in charge.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Right exactly, and we'll see what happens with the auto
pen controversy, as you mentioned, and if some of those pardons,
what over four thousand pardons with the autopen except for one,
I think he only signed one and that was the
one for his son.

Speaker 7 (21:25):
Amazing.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah, really, I mean think about it.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Really astonishing?

Speaker 8 (21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:29):
The only thing that probably out did that were his
executive orders, right.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Oh yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
And he only didn't complain about executive orders when they're
done by a Republican. They love them when they're done
by Biden Obama Fdr Woodrow Wilson, I mean the lefties,
the liberal presidents or the king of executive orders?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Exactly. Do you think that Biden got over influenced by
Barack Obama. Maybe that's what altered some of his mindset,
not to mention his mental deficiency, probably adding to that.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
I think it's more the latter.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I mean, when he was VP under Obama and here
again on the abortion issue, he actually helped guide Obama
a little bit, or tried to on issues like taxpayer
funding of abortion and Obamacare.

Speaker 7 (22:18):
And he was a little bit of a kind.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
Of remaining, kind of Catholic voice of conscience who tried
to make things not quite as bad as they were
going under Obama. And then by the time that he
gets into office four six, eight years later, whatever, I
think he was just so far gone that he didn't
know what the hell he was doing.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
You're probably right the minute left here, Paul. What's going
on with Pennsylvania's lottery the gift that is suspicious to
say the least.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah, I really detest the way that government has seized gambling.
They've taken over what we used to call the numbers
racket that was run by the mob. It's amazing, it's great,
and it's now run by government. And they promoted a
Christmas time be Mary play the lottery and if any
private sector company ripped you off and gave you the

(23:14):
lack of return for your dollar.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
The lotteries do.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
The liberals will be trying to shut it down, put
them out of business, but instead they've seized it because
they like it, because it's good for them. So it's
a big taxpayer rip off scheme and pretty much every
state engages in it, and liberals love it.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
So we get to get the vision and image of
Bethlehem with the lottery. The lottery mile over.

Speaker 5 (23:40):
The baby Jesus, right, that's right, yeah, Jesus holding a
lottery ticket. Yeah, scratch here, make a million dollars except
what you want.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
You gotta love it. Well, Paul Kenngre. Merry Christmas to
you and yours. Thank you so much for being with us.
Paul's the American author and professor of political science and
Grove City College. Thanks again, Paul, Take care, y'd blessed?

Speaker 7 (24:01):
Right, God blessed take care.

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Speaker 3 (28:10):
Welcome morning, America. Great to have you with us. Bill
Martinez here with the one and only Horace Cooper, a
former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator, and author. He's
here too. We'll we'll talk about Scotus. We'll also talk
about the latest that's happening off of Venezuela. Horace Cooper,
Welcome always, Happy New Year, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
Happy New Year, Merry Christmas. I'm really really excited for
all the great things that God has in store for
America and for me and my family.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, you know, this is the thing I keep telling people.
I mean, it's kind of amazing what's going on right
now if you have ice to see, God is really moving.
I mean, there's things that are happening here in our
country that the media, mainstream media, which tells you where
the mainstream media is at. And of course the left,
I mean, they're so godless. I mean I feel for
them and I pray for them because you know, they

(29:03):
are a danger to themselves and their families by decidedly
making a decision to turn their backs on God. Right.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Well, absolutely, this is part of what the Old Testament says,
you know, in second Chronicles, my people who are called
by my name, right, the Lord says that if we
repent and we acknowledge Him, that he and we turn

(29:33):
from eric wicked ways, that he will hear our prayers,
and he will hear he'll ourlan There are the earliest
stages of a revival happening in America, and it's been
sorely needed. You know, in America, we've had a couple

(29:54):
of really big revivals. We had one right after the
Civil War. We had another one right after World War Two.
Billy Graham was a big part of it. We thought
we were going to start one. You know, I was
two or three years old, but we thought America thought
it would start one with what was called the Jesus

(30:15):
Movement in the seventies. But we are really starting to
see record numbers of our young people going to church
accepting salvation. And my prayer is that that just expands
and expands, and what dc is a outcome that pleases God.

(30:39):
And when he is pleased, there will be blessings for
our society, even for those who don't honor him exactly.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
You know, the thing is, again we're reminded how much
God loves us. I mean, here it is the Christmas season.
We're an advent, the greatest gift that God gave us
and his son. But you know, count second Chronicle seven fourteen,
which again is a demonstration of God's love for us
because he knew that we were going to mess up,
and he inspired the leadership of Israel to make that

(31:12):
proclamation that when you screw up, you know God will
forgive you. And you got to know that first of all,
that God recognizes you as his people, right, you're not aliens,
you're not illegal, you are his people. And he says,
if his people, and so you're sanctified and set aside

(31:33):
because he calls you by name. You know, if my
people who are called by my name, and he calls
us by her name. I mean, this is how much
this again manifestation, This is clear evidence, if I can
put it in legal terms, Horace, that God loves us
because he knows that we're going to mess up, and
he gave us a remedy. He said, look at if
you will acknowledge that you have gotten outside and over

(31:55):
your skis and you've been a knucklehead. Hey, look at
I'm the father who loves you. I will forgive you
your sins. I'll restore you know, the good times back
to you. I will heal your land. All will be forgiven.
And you were going to be right with me once again? Right?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yes, I want to amplify by the way, as we
say in my church, this will preach. I want to amplify.
It isn't just us as individuals. Yes, we as individuals
need to repent, but the reward is to our land,
to our nation. Exactly, we as Christians do what we

(32:37):
should do, and if enough of us do what we
should do, our whole country will prosper. This country's existence,
I believe came about as one of the greatest gifts
that God has placed un planet Earth. And you say, oh,
what are you talking about? We have slavery. America today

(33:04):
is the country that provides more support for charity than
any other country on the planet. In fact, our charitable
giving exceeds that of the government of Japan, of the
Government of China, of the Government of England, of the

(33:28):
governments of the EU, all combined exact who sets the
record for faith giving, It is Americans. And if this
planet is going to be able to have it said
that every woman, man and child hears about the greatest

(33:51):
gift of all salvation, it's going to be because of
what we do with our guests.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Excited about that hundred percent. And this is the thing,
this is why the people who are called by God's name,
because God is moving. As Charles Finny would say, Horace,
that revival happens when it's most needed.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
And when you look.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
At our country right now, the chaos, the spiritual chaos
that it's in. I mean, we're so confused that we
have what ninety different gender assignments, you know, and now
they're saying that your gender is assigned at birth. It's just,
I mean, it's so absurd where we are right now
as a country, and we can't seem to solve the

(34:36):
problems at this level. Those problems are solved in the heavenlies.
That's why we have to elevate ourselves, get out of
the morass of this confusion and this demonic controlled zip
codes and land in which we live in right now,
temporarily thank God and reach out to God and say, God,

(34:57):
we need your help, and you know, confess and say,
look at we deserve this. We deserve where we are
right now because we turned our back on you. And
the Bible's real clear that once you turn your back
on God, you really render yourself stupid, don't you. Well.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yes, In fact, he even says that He curses us
by making it harder for us to see our way
towards him. Remember Pharaoh in the Book of Exodus, in
the story he hardened Pharaoh's heart the Book of Acts,
excuse me, the Book of Romans says the same thing

(35:34):
can happen. And that's why I'm so excited about the revival,
because what it means is that the Holy Spirit is
allowing people to have ministered to them, let them hear
of the need to repent, to turn and hear God,

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and then able to be blessed by God.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (35:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
And my cautionary tale is to those who are maybe
a little bit ahead of the curve right now and
they are more in alignment with God, be prepared for
these people coming in. Don't get upset because they took
your parking spot or your favorite spot in the fugue.
You know, you know, be prepared because you never know
what it's going to take. You know, the Bible says
the word aptly spoken. You know, Horace I found sometimes

(36:22):
it's just a smile aptly given to a fellow journer,
you know, journeyer who is going through this. You know
this this this life that we're going through.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yes, s yes, you know they're simple things. They're big things,
but they're simple things. Like recently, I was in an
uber vehicle and the gentleman was talking about some of
the challenges that he was facing. When our trip ended,
I asked if he would agree to pray. He willingly

(36:54):
did so and thanked me afterwards because he said he
had been one to hear. So we can all play
a role. But let's talk a little bit about the
Supreme Court too, because we.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Got about a minute. We got about a minute left
before we go to break, so we'll kind of wrap
this up just only as a sidebar. Horse. You know,
I love it when people want to pray for me,
but me personally, don't don't give me fruitcake. I don't
understand fruitcake. It's a mystery to me, and it's kind
of like liver. You know, some people say, well, Bill,
you've never really had my fruitcake or really good fruitcake.

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I don't know fruitcake fruitcake. I don't understand it.

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To to day, I actually don't like dinner. But I
happened to comment that I didn't like it, and my
father said to me, don't complain, yes, And I decided
to complain anyway, And he told me, tell you what,

(37:59):
why don't you go upstairs to your bedroom pack what
he called my glad rags because I was leaving, and
he told me, don't let the door hit you on
the way out. I cut my way through that liver,
and it was awful. I put a smile on.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
Yep, exactly. We love We love our parents, all right.
We got to go to break. So let's go to break.
We'll pick it up on the other side. More for
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As promised, we're back with your Horace Cooper at the
nationally recognized legal commentator continues with us right now, Horace,
you wanted to let's talk about Scotus. I mean a
lot of I mean things are bubbling up here, and you,
as a recognized legal commentator, I'm sure, are like me, expecting,
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(42:54):
Supreme Court.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Well, let's talk about where we are. Uh, isn't it?
Trump's administration is about ninety three percent when I was
in school, that was considered an a grade ninety three
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(43:16):
the so called constitutional scholar, was about forty five percent
before the Supreme Court, and he set the dubious record
of having the most unanimous rulings against him of any
president in the last fifty years. Well, guess what, mister

(43:37):
Biden's record was worse than even Barack Obama, a long wrong,
wrong on so many issues. Now, he didn't get as
many unanimous rulings against him because Supreme Court Justice Jackson,
who was prepared apparently to take any crazy argument and

(44:00):
in favor of it, so you couldn't get a unanimous
But he kept losing, and he lost at a rate
where his victories were about thirty two or thirty three
percent of the time. If you were betting, it was
a good idea to say, let's find out where the
Biden administration is and assume I don't even know anything

(44:23):
about the law, but I'm going to go the other.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
Way exactly exactly. Well, that was I guess pretty much
the theme of the Obama administration and the Democratic Party
during that era.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Right.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Well, yeah, it was taking the law to places where
it absolutely shouldn't. It was saying to Christian schools and organizations,
you are going to be forced to hire people who
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with the drafting of the First Amendment, to give a space,
amount of space so that people of faith could operate
and live their lives. You know, earlier in the segment,
I talked about how much charity there has been a
worldwide that is faith based. Part of that comes because

(45:19):
our charter, our constitution, our Bill of Rights specifically respects
people of faith. Both mister Obama and mister Biden regularly
targeted people of faith to force them to undertake views
and beliefs that they personally rejected. If you have an

(45:41):
employee and that employee tells you I share your beliefs,
I will honor your beliefs, and then you find out
they're having affairs, they're engaging in slander, they're undertaking a
whole host of behaviors. The Supreme Court has consistently said

(46:01):
in a case like that, the organization can in fact
terminate you for failing to repent. So this has really
been the Roberts the Roberts Court, which many people are
a bit critical of, has been a bulwark of First

(46:22):
Amendment protections.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Well, you know, it makes you wonder Horace, and I
don't know. I mean, maybe it's unfair to ask the question,
but it's one that begs asking, and that is Barack
Obama presented himself as a as a Christian, I mean,
Jeremiah Wright Christian, and here you got Joe Biden as
a practicing Catholic. And you know, they were just they

(46:50):
added to the confusion and really put us on this
trajectory where so many Americans who bought into their personalities,
you know, are kind of lost in the wilderness right now.
If I can put it in those terms.

Speaker 4 (47:06):
A lot of what had been presented to the American
people is quickly falling apart. People forget that Barack Obama,
when he originally ran, said on a really fundamental issue
of the day that he supported marriage between a man
and a woman and didn't support redefining it. And yet

(47:27):
his administration pushed and foisted gay marriage on America in
a way that has had a very very consequential effect.
And the truth is, this is what he'd always believed,
but he had wanted us to believe something different. But
let's take that off the table. What about the Affordable

(47:50):
Care Act. If you lost your doctor, you can keep
your doctor. If you like your insurance policy, you can
keep your insurance policy. It turns out that was a lie.
In fact, it was listed by the Associated Press as
a Lie of the Year because of such consequential Look

(48:14):
at what President Biden did with the ending of our
presence in Afghanistan. It was an unmitigated nightmare that we
today as a country are still suffering from. And yet
when he campaigned, he said he would be a champion

(48:36):
a foreign policy. It would be great for America to
have someone with his leadership and his experience on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. That turned out to be a nightmare.
My point in all that is to say, what we
see when these people run and what they do after

(48:56):
they get in office are completely and told totally different.
Our president today has been working with our United States
Constitution and pursuing the very principles that our founders intended,
rather than the deviations that his predecessors sought.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
And when you violate these, you know the wisdom of
the Constitution. You put Americans in danger. You mentioned Afghan
Afghanistan and the pulling out of Afghanistan. Of course many
refugees came here into the country, and we had one
Afghan refugee travel across the country and kill a National

(49:42):
guards woman and severely injure another who We're getting, you know,
some positive news that he's recovering, you know, thank god,
But sadly we lost a quality individual national Guards woman
because of this. And this is the cost of violating
our constitution and compromising the number one priority of the

(50:06):
chief executive officer, the commander in chief of our country.
When he violates our constitution, he puts America at risk.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
That's right. So I said at the time that we
as a nation, and that was speaking directly to Congress,
need to change the law and challenge the Supreme Court's
ruling back in the late nineteen seventies and again in
the middle two thousands that if a person doesn't die,

(50:40):
you can't have the death penalty for them. Here's my argument.
First of all, the Founders never agree to that. But
here's my argument. You do, as a killer, a shooter, attacker,
everything you possibly can to murder someone, and science and

(51:01):
skilled physicians and even the strong prayer of others prevent
that person from dying. You shouldn't escape the punishment for
doing what you have done. Our founders said, any time
you commit a felony, any felony, you were eligible for

(51:22):
the death penalty. Now, the Kennedy ruling that came out
in two thousand and five suggested that Louisiana couldn't punish
a man for brutally raping three children? Is it or
is it six?

Speaker 3 (51:41):
What's the number rape.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Would have been allowed? And they said the ruling was, well,
no one died. This child's innocence completely each one of
those children completely destroyed. There ought to be a penalty.
If you go up to a National guardsmen and you
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(52:07):
ought to pay. And I asked that that's what Kung
Wor should do. Pass a new law allowing for these
kinds of crimes to be death penaltly eligible, and if necessary,
challenge the Supreme Court to overturn what I believe was
an erroneous decision.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
If we're going to do something about dissuading offenders and lawbreakers, well,
first of all, there needs to be consequences right now,
right you know, we've got a break down in consequences,
and this is why this crime is going. And then
thank god, you've got Donald Trump coming in and you know,
trying to restore law in order. I mean, that is
foundational to the Democratic Republic. Yet the Democrats are saying

(52:51):
that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy when everything
he's doing is to fortify democratic rule.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
Right, Well, that's exactly right. Campaign. I heard him say
a couple times if you take fentanyl or if you
take another deadly drug, heroin to an elementary school and
hand it out, that alone ought to get you the

(53:17):
death penalty, doesn't matter what ended up happening. And that's
to your point, Bill Martinez. We need consequences. There have
to be consequences. And now I get told, well, what
about people that can't help themselves. Let me tell you something.
If you can't help yourself and you can't stop yourself

(53:40):
from brutally harming other people, that we need to get you,
right exactly, that's not actually an excuse, that's not a protection.
That's an argument for us to be even more aggressive.
I believe if we had more accountability, there actually would
be more people exercising good judgment about their behavior this

(54:07):
time in accountability has harmed America.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Historical evidence would would prove that out. What they're talking
is in the realm of theory, and their theory falls
flat because the data proves them wrong. Flat Outhors.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
Yeah, yeah, Look, we serve a god who believes in grace,
who believes in giving people a second chance. But he
has an ultimatum that in the end, if you are
not with him, you're going to be punished in damnation forever.

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That's because he believes in accountability.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
It's why he gave the shord. That's why he gave
the shord to government so that they would render justice.

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Right, that's right, that's exactly right. So if you want
to choose to serve him, he welcomes it, yes, but
if you don't, fare will be accountability. I don't understand
any of these theories like you just described, where they
say just give them another chance, just ignore what they did.

(55:21):
I mean, the mayor of New York City elect is
hiring a convicted felon to advise him on how to
set police interrogation and oversight policies. That's the exact wrong way.
It will be open season. And as far as I'm concerned.

(55:44):
I plan to be staying out of New York City
while he's mayor.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I'm right with you, Horace Cooper. He's a former constitutional
law professor, recognized legal commentator, and author right here on
Bill Martinez's life. Horace, thank you very much. Merry Christmas,
my friend.

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Merry Christmas to you too.

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Right now, six minutes after the top of the HOURD left,
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Hey, it's all good. So there's peace in the universe.
I think that's what happens is when all that's done,
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Other side of that, right, Yeah, exactly what. You spend
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All right, until all of a sudden you get the
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Speaker 19 (58:09):
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administration and the President just yesterday digging in again against
expanding these COVID era increased boosted subsidies on top of
the existing Obamacare subsidies the taxpayers paid for. But unfortunately,
we do have a handful of senators, Republican senators who
have introduced their own plans siding with Democrats, and a

(58:32):
number of House Republicans too. But hopefully Republicans are able
to hold the line here and prevent any expansion of Obamacare. Obviously,
I think my boss Grover is correct on this. No
one put Republicans in office to expand Obamacare. I think
they're completely misreading the room here. I think it would
be detrimental to the midterms, depressing our own side the

(58:52):
conservative base. It's just do what you were elected to do.
It's that simple, and this is the cleet opposite. Republicans
have always talked about repealing Obamacare, and what we're really
talking about is if these subsidies they're expanded for one year,
two years. In reality, that means they're never going away.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
That's right.

Speaker 19 (59:10):
Congress will come back and appeal it. This is about
a four hundred billion dollar expansion.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Right, Well, once again it's the Democrats lying to us.
I mean, Obamacare was born out of a lie. It's
been kept on life support because of lies. And here
we are, and as you say, what really irritates me
about all this, particularly with the Republicans. They're one vote
away from repealing Obamacare, thank you very much, John McCain.

(59:36):
We get that, but it's like we've been dealing with this,
now what for about fifteen years, and now we're going
to get down to the eleventh hour, and you guys
are going to scramble. You and Grover and I talked
about this several weeks ago, Mike. They said the Republicans
allowed themselves to get backed in a corner. They thought
the Democrats were going to be exposed because they set

(59:57):
this up. This was all of their doing. Okay, but
you know what, that's not with White's being reported by
the media. It's not the way the every man in
America is seeing this. They're seeing, you know, Republicans as
being the ogres. Look at they've got the power there
in the seat they have to make this happen. If
they lose the midterm, it's because of them, because they

(01:00:18):
fail to do this. Donald Trump has been jumping through hoops,
He's avoided bullets, you know, and all this stuff that
he's gone through on behalf of the American people, and
the rest of the party is like, you know, they're
sitting on the bench.

Speaker 19 (01:00:31):
Well, you can be more right. The Median Democrats would
have you believe that it is now incumbent upon Republicans
to expand Obamacare, to save Obamacare that's only failing now
because of their temporary COVID policy that they lied to
the American people twice over saying that this was only
for emergency COVID policy. If that expires now, it is

(01:00:53):
somehow the fault of Republicans. We've only ever opposed Obamacare.
And what's really the big live being told here is
that healthcare costs, premiums for health care plans are going
up because Obamacare is failing. That is what is driving
two major lies with around Obamacare where you could keep

(01:01:13):
your doctor and that your premiums are going to go
down over two thousand dollars that never happen. Premiums are
on the rise, people are paying more for worse healthcare coverage.
And the frustration here too is if you have employer
provided healthcare again, here you are again being asked to
subsidize someone else's health care plans. It's never going to
end if they cave here. If you expand Obamacare, now

(01:01:34):
we continue the march to single payer. That's the only outcome.
We have to take a stand.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Right well, and no matter what happens, there's going to
be a little bit of a transition. So do you
transition into something worse than Obamacare or you begin to
tran And we know when you transition, you get the
what I call the grief to happiness ratio that comes
into play. And you got to look at hey, there's
going to be a little bit of investment of grief
no matter what. Okay, so but you need to measure that,

(01:02:02):
you know, kind of like what we've done with energy.
We went through a little bit, you know, early on
with some grief with Donald Trump when he first took over,
with the hope that he would come through. And now
here we are, what nine ten months down the road,
and we're starting to be happy again. I mean particularly
in red states. You know, most of us are paying
you know around you know, maybe high twos. I think

(01:02:24):
there were some reports of seven states, six states paying
less than two dollars a gallon. Red states, by the way,
not Blue states, because Blue states got all these goofy
taxes and everything else. And plus they you know, bought
into Biden's you know, yellow brick road green scam program,
and so they that's an albatross on them, and so

(01:02:45):
it's hard for them to really pass on the savings
that are being realized by the majority of the country
right now.

Speaker 19 (01:02:53):
Yeah, and if we look at this term affordability right
with what really just means the cost of living prices
and how much money are you making, it's a two sided, right.
We want to also be bringing prices down. We want
to be stopping inflation caused by the Bide administration twenty
two percent, highest inflation in four and a half decades
since the Jimmy administration. But the other side of this
that the Trump administration has been very active addressing is

(01:03:15):
the pro growth side, increasing people's real household wages. We
shouldn't forget we have all this great policy from the
one big beautiful bill that signature Trump tax cuts kicking
in both now the second half of this year, with
lots of new policy set to kick in twenty twenty six. Again,
we talked about this before. Twenty four hundred dollars. Is
the average household set to see an increase in the

(01:03:36):
real wages too? That is monumental, and we're going to
see that starting to kick in in early twenty twenty six.
We're going to have a record tax refund season, nearly
one thousand dollars higher. And that's not because you're giving
the government interest free loans like Democrats slide about and
the previous tax cuts. This is because of real pro
growth tax cuts letting you keep more of your own money.

(01:03:56):
That's how you address the affordability crisis in this country.
It's through growth.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
So is anybody going to tell me that Kamala Harris
would have given us anything like this?

Speaker 19 (01:04:06):
That's exactly right. We know what she campaigned on. She
campaigned on the second term of the Bide administration. She
campaigned on allowing all of your taxes to go up.
She campaigned on an anti growth agenda. Uh, and that's
what's really frustrating here. Because of course it's hard for people.
You know, you can't you can't gaslight people on the economy. Uh,

(01:04:27):
that's what they would have attempted to do, obviously, but
they would have continued all of the policy and of
course from the Bide administration that caused the problems to
begin with.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Well, because at the very core is their donor base.
They have to satisfy satisfy their donor base. You don't
raise over a billion dollars for a presidential campaign without
a strong donor base. And that donor base says, okay,
show me the money. I mean, that's what they did
with Hillary, right Hillary failed to deliver, and so believe me,
I still believe and I've talked to Grover about this

(01:04:58):
in terms of following the money. I mean all that stuff,
you know, the printing of money and the trillions of
dollars that was paid out so radically during the Biden years.
Right away was to pay back those donors that were
yelling and screaming that said, hey, look at we paid
all this money for Hillary Clinton. You guys didn't deliver.
You owe us now. And so they've been over backwards

(01:05:19):
because they had to keep them happy. And now here
they go in and they doubled down, put all this
money in the Kamala Harris and they're back at square
one again. So they're desperate to get in control of
the treasury. And the American people need to wise up
on this because you know, we went through some you know,
a lot of pain. You talk about grief, grief and

(01:05:39):
no happiness, because we had a lot of grief and
there was no prospect that we were going to turn
the corner other than you know, more Obamacare lies. You know,
whether it had to do with inflation, the Inflacement Reduction Act,
you know, all these things, shovel ready jobs. I mean,
there's so many Democratic policies that they just it's like
this is the Party of Life, and.

Speaker 19 (01:06:00):
You talk about this progressive dinnerbase. We don't have to
speculate what they want. They're telling us what they want. Tooky,
what Mundani is doing in New York, that's what they
want to want. Government run grocery stores, free buses, which
just means you're paying for someone else's travel. They want
Jasmine Crockett in Texas and at the what do they want?
They want to throw more money into the pit of
Obamacare it's right across the board. The only answer Democrats

(01:06:22):
have is to keep throwing other people's money at the
problem that they created in the first place. Right, we
don't want government run grocery stores. We don't want to
be paying for someone else's health care. We want to
be able to afford Christmas gifts at Christmas season for
our kids.

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Yeah, for the kids in the family that we work
so hard for. We got to go to break. We
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Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Hey, we're back with you right now. Nineteen minutes after
to the ri im Bill Martinez, he is Mike Pallas,
ATR's tax policy director. Mike, going back to Obamacare and
these subsidies, I'm trying to get to a net net
number as to how many people are going to be effective.
I mean, because you've got when you look at the spectrum,
I mean, you got a lot of people that are
getting subsidies that make over a half you know, half

(01:11:39):
million a year. So I mean, in the net net
consideration of these subsidies, who really needs to benefit, you know,
and maybe for a short term to help mitigate some
of the grief that would go through because you know,
the Democrats, there's no way they're going to cooperate with
any kind of healthcare healthcare solution.

Speaker 19 (01:12:00):
Well, and that's the part of the story that media
ignores because we're seeing plans put out there right now
where these subsidies are applicable for people seven hundred percent
above the federal poverty line. Susan Collins one of these
Republicans in the Senate who's introduced a plan to essentially
cave on the issue. Her phase out level starts at
two hundred thousand dollars. I assume that's what she now

(01:12:20):
considers to be in need of subsidy. A household erning
two hundred thousand dollars should not be getting subsidized by taxpayers.
But that's the discussion being had. We also had a
great report come out from the Government Accountability Office and
Internal Watchdog about the fraud of these Obamacare subsidies. What
they found was astonishing fifty eight thousand dead people on

(01:12:42):
the Obamacare rolls.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
Why are we surprised? I mean, this is consistent whether
you talk about Obamacare, Medicare, social Security, on and on.
We see what's happening in Minnesota, all the theft and
fraud that's going on there, and it's all they're doing
is shrugging. It's like nobody really cares, are you flipping
kidding me? I mean, if it was their bank account
and their money, they'd be yelling and screaming, I haven't.

Speaker 19 (01:13:06):
Well, Bill, you're right. And that's the frustration here is
the fraud is the point, because it's the insurance companies
who get these subsidies who also benefit from the fraud.
Right now, you have all these people, millions of people
with zero dollar premium payments, which means that the insurance
companies have no incentive to go check if that's an
actual real person because they're getting subsidized for someone who's
not essentially not really claiming the coverage for it, and

(01:13:28):
they're getting the subsidies for it. The Paragon Institute who
does great work, good healthcare thing tank as a means
that six point four million people are improperly rolled on Obamacare.
That's a twenty five percent increase over one year, just
because which they attribute alone to these increased COVID era
of subsidies that we're just talking about right now. They

(01:13:48):
to expire, so it is driving the cost. And if
you need any further element, the Washington Post editorial board
cited this GAO report and opposed Chuck Schumer's three year
extension subsidies because of the fraud. So publicans have the
Washington Post editorial board coming out against Democrats extension here,
there's no reason they should be caving. They should not
be to the left of the Washington Post editorial board.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Well, Taya, you know, that's a lot of the story.
But the big part of the story that they're missing
out on, Mike, in my humble opinion, is the vig.
The vig that goes from the UH, you know, from
these pharmaceuticals and UH and the whole pharmaceutical industrial complex
that goes to politicians. I want to know that number.

(01:14:33):
I want it because because it's incentivized, and it's the
wheels on the bus are going round and round because
everybody is partaking in the fraud.

Speaker 19 (01:14:44):
This is this is exactly the situation Democrats want right now.
They want millions of people dependent on government for their
healthcare solutions. They want these subsidies going to the insurance
companies so that when they're set to expire, they're going
to run ads bashing Republicans, encourging the subsidies to continue,
and they'll of a stake in the game. They'll run
as during campaigns, they'll contribute to Democrat politicians. This is

(01:15:05):
the entire Democrat system.

Speaker 8 (01:15:06):
It's right.

Speaker 19 (01:15:07):
You capture industries, you make them reliant on government, reliant
on Democrats in power for them to continue getting their
subsidies so that they can be operational.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
You see everything that we said as Obamacare was coming
into play, including Joe Wilson when Obama was lying in
the State of the Union, right, and Joe Wilson just
out of he couldn't contain himself, you know, just you lie,
and oh my goodness, they wanted to censure him and
everything else. Well, the deal was, after everything is all
said and done, Joe Wilson was right. Obama lied, and

(01:15:38):
he lied to the American people. He lied to all
the elected officials, kept this scam going on, and this
has been a huge issue. So now and again, like
you said, what's the endgame. The endgame is single payer. Okay,
so now we look at who else is doing single payer.
Let's look at Canada, look at what's going on in
Europe and everything. And what do you get? You euthanasia?

(01:16:01):
You get people. Now we're in Canada. What do they
call it? A medical assistant Death Eastman or whatever it
is made. It's called idea medical assistant something like that.
But anyway, that's what Canada is employing right now. And
a lot of seniors are dying early and earlier in
life just because they said, hey, I'm tired and I

(01:16:22):
don't want to live anymore. And Canada says, hey, no problem,
we got we got a vaccine for that.

Speaker 19 (01:16:27):
Our healthcare staffer has a great example about her grandparents
are German. Every time they come into the un United
States to visit, her grandfather gets his doctor visits and
gets his medical work done here because it takes too
long because you're in line in Germany exactly. And that's
what we've see in these European countries. That we've seen
in Canada, and that's what we've seen with Obamacare. The
huge part of this question that gets lost to is

(01:16:48):
we are getting worse healthcare coverage, you're paying more for less,
you're subsidizing someone else's plan with worse quality of care.
It's it's incredibly frustrating.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Again, if I had if I had control, and I
say controlled, or had the agreement of three hundred and
thirty million Americans to go find you a better health
care program, I'm going to leverage three hundred and thirty
million Americans and that's going to be our base of
which to negotiate with all the pharmaceuticals and the doctors.

(01:17:18):
I'll guarantee you we would find in short order a
world class, gold standard American sort of way of healthcare
that would be golden. And you know this other negotiation
and stuff like that. There's too many fingers in the pie.
And they're not interested in delivering world class healthcare. They're
only interested in getting re elected and looking good to

(01:17:42):
the media and all that as opposed to providing world
class healthcare to people who need it. And that makes
sense is that you know, guys like you and I,
we don't have to go around and pay for pregnancy
because we don't get pregnant. Okay, like all that stupid
Obamacare stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:17:57):
Let's set right.

Speaker 19 (01:17:59):
That's exactly right, and that's what they're being forced to
pay for on these plans. Right now. We talk about
why can't young people just have disaster coverage where it's
just your twenty four years catastrophic care, Well, the reality
is because Democrats made that illegal under the Obamacare exchanges.
That's why you can't have that. We talk about that
we need massive deregulation. We need to be repealing Obamacare.
Republicans have fought took that stand in the past, and

(01:18:22):
we should also talk about the good healthcare things. Republicans
and the Trump administration have already done historic health savings
account expansion in this doing more right now that is
letting people invest save more of their own money, untaxed
for your health care coverage for your first payments, should
be able to use your HSA to pay your health
care premiums. These are all things Republicans are talking about.

(01:18:42):
They've made huge progress on association health care plans. These
are all things that the Republicans are putting forward right
now today. They're going to vote on a fifteen hundred
dollars expansion into HSAS that I anticipate every Democrat in
the Senate will vote against. Of course, they should be
forced to the public to explain why your money spent
on your healthcare should be taxed. We'll see the media

(01:19:04):
holes them accountable.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
Well, I want them to explain why they were able
to get a carve out on Obamacare, and why they
have such stellar healthcare, and why can't we have the
same healthcare that they have.

Speaker 19 (01:19:15):
That's exactly right. Why do they have special rules for
the Democrat lawmakers? Why don't they hold themselves accountable to
the own programs that they create.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
Yeah, so just shut up. I don't want to hear
from you because you're not interested. You know, you're not
looking out for my best interest. But again, the other thing, too,
is to be able to negotiate across state lines.

Speaker 6 (01:19:33):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 19 (01:19:33):
And for some reason Democrats always mocked this is a
very valid point. If you can buy auto insurance across
state lines, why can't you buy healthcare insurance. It's more competition,
it's going to bring prices down across the market. That's
something Republicans have also put forwards what President Trump has
campaigned on twice three times now, and that's something that
should should be I'd like to hear Democrats make the
argument for why that shouldn't be the case.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Watch it. I know it's a dream, but I would
hope that the Republicans would be willing to fall on
their sword for this, you know, a positive healthcare gold
standard program that would really be positive for all Americans,
you know, and touching on these things that you and
I have talked about, and to codify those the heck

(01:20:15):
with the Democrats, I'd leave them in the dust.

Speaker 19 (01:20:17):
And if any the Republicans are misreading the room here,
because I think the real threat politically is depressing our
own side. If if a Republican majority in Congress is
going to expand Obamacare, then what use is having a
Republican majority?

Speaker 3 (01:20:30):
Exactly? Well, and that's what That's what we opened up
this segment with. Right, Grover Norquist quote, voters didn't give
Republicans full control of Congress and the White House to
expand Obamacare. I mean, that says it all right there, right.

Speaker 19 (01:20:44):
And I think there's good news here, right. Leave John
Thune in the Senate, Mike Johnson in the House and
Donald Trump have all held the line. There's been a
few people breaking ranks to deserve to have rocks thrown
at them over this who voters should be angry at.
But so far Republican leadership under President Trump has held
the line of this. I continue to urge them to
do so. I think that's how you deliver the win here,
and that's how you reform a broken system. You can't

(01:21:06):
just keep throwing more money at it without reform.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Without a doubt. He's the tax policy director with Americans
for Tax Reform. Mike Pallace has been our guest. Mike,
thank you very much. Take care of Merry Christmas, my friend,
Take care Merry Christmas.

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We're back with you America. I'm glad you could joined us.
Bill Martinez here with doctor Ted bar from movieguide dot Org.
Hey don't you love this time of year?

Speaker 27 (01:25:34):
Well, I love the flag behind you, and I love Christmas.
And you know, there are all these people who are
wishing me happy holidays, and they don't realize that holidays
mean Holy Days. And if they realized it meant Holy
Days and they were atheists, they'd be upset by that. Now, Bill,
you know, I've got to be more of a positive

(01:25:55):
witness because I love Jesus so much. But I went
to one of the big drugs store chains because the
really good drug store shut down. And we know what's
happened with the government and drug stores and everything else.

Speaker 6 (01:26:07):
The government just wiped them out.

Speaker 27 (01:26:09):
But anyway, so I went in to them and they
didn't have any Christmas cards that had to do with Christmas.
It's all holidays. You don't want to talk about this,
but it's They had a bunch of LGBTQ cards, they
had a bunch of Hanukka cards, and they had a
bunch of holiday cards. So I went out and I said,
why don't you have Christmas cards? You know, all Mark

(01:26:31):
used to be a Christian Company. In fact, we know
the people, and so you know, I went through that
and they kept saying, well, you know, people don't like them.
But there's one hundred eighty percent of the American people
say that they're Christians, sixty percent say they believe Jesus's Lord,
about forty percent go to church once in a while.

(01:26:52):
About one hundred and sixteen million people go to church
every week. That's a tremendous audience that they're missing. As
I went back and I said, well, you've got to
tell I won't tell you the name of the pharmacy, CBS.

Speaker 6 (01:27:05):
They've got to tell the people.

Speaker 27 (01:27:07):
You've got to tell them as they've got to put
Christmas guards that are Christian, and they're going to lose me.

Speaker 6 (01:27:13):
Are they all atheists?

Speaker 27 (01:27:15):
And they got so upset when I said, are they
all atheists? But who wants to cut Jesus out of Christmas?
Who wants to turn it into Holidays which means Holy days?
Who doesn't understand what a mass is? You know, these
people are nuts anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
But these are the same people though, that have a
particular gender dysphoria. They go out on the street and
yell from the river to the sea, and here they
are yelling a mantra that would suicide them in two
seconds if they were to go to Palestine.

Speaker 6 (01:27:51):
I know they're nuts, absolutely nuts.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
But the other deal is interesting. It'll be interesting to
see and when you go back there in two weeks
and check and see how many LGBTQ Christmas cards they sold.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
None, because it's only one percent of the population.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Well, I know, I mean, and the other group.

Speaker 27 (01:28:07):
That they're selling, I mean, I'm glad they're selling them
is only you know, the hunka ones.

Speaker 6 (01:28:13):
That's only a couple of percent. So none of those
are going to make them any money. And you know
Target is failing.

Speaker 27 (01:28:19):
Now you know that Wall Street Journal asks why are
they failing you?

Speaker 6 (01:28:24):
And I can say why they're failing.

Speaker 27 (01:28:26):
But a lot of the costco is having trouble. These
companies are having trouble. They do not understand that we
are the audience and we want to go see. I've
convinced Hollywood to make more Christian movies. But I haven't
been able to convince the pharmacies.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
Well it'll take some time. They'll catch up eventually, and
they'll find out, just like everybody else, that it's costly
to be stupid and you know, because really, I mean, you.

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Don't mint words at all, do you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Well, you know, my dad blessed. I love my father
and he passed away twelve years ago and I miss
him so much. And every time I say stupid, I
know that because that was like one of the worst
things you could ever say in our family. You could
not say help.

Speaker 27 (01:29:10):
I tell all my kids not to say that, because
Jesus said, call no man rocket.

Speaker 6 (01:29:14):
But I'm not going to tell you that because I
like the way.

Speaker 3 (01:29:17):
Well, well, yeah, it's just I understand it. And I
guess part of me in telling you this is out
of reverence for my father in a very strange way.
I use that term very you know, not very often,
not very often. I thank you.

Speaker 27 (01:29:35):
I do the same thing. And there are only two
sins in the Bible that are supposed that Jesus says
are unforgivable. One of them is denying the Holy Spirit. Yes,
And I went to a mainline cemetery, oh seminary, and
most of them.

Speaker 6 (01:29:50):
Didn't believe in spirit.

Speaker 27 (01:29:52):
And I brought it up to him at one point
and they went bonkers because they don't believe in the
Holy Spirit. And number two is calling man someone raka.
Now I think what Jesus is saying, and are we
You know you don't want to do this, But anyway,
what he's knowing at that time would not let the

(01:30:13):
children come and talk to them. The children were forbidden,
and he welcomed the children, and he welcomed the lame
and he welped it because I believe, and you know
they're countries now like Iceland that you automatically have to
abort what they used to call down syndrome children. God

(01:30:34):
made them so that we love them. When I was
in seminary, you had to go visit them, you had
to work with them, you had to do all these
trips to deal with you know, and they're wonderful, they're loving. Yeah,
they're a little difficult, but you know, God reread it
and it helps us be better people. Well you know

(01:30:54):
I'm not so great anyway, so it helps us to
be better.

Speaker 3 (01:30:58):
No, there's no doubt we learn a lot from children
that otherwise people in our society would look at to
say that they're disabled. But you know, after you come
in contact with them and you're blessed by them, you
feel disabled because because there as you say, their love
is so pure ted I mean my experience, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (01:31:20):
I think you're so away I'm going to cry. That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
But anyway, getting back to kind of what we were
talking about here, and I guess I've become more passionate
about it, and that is because I don't want people
to be ignorant. I don't want them to be the
less version of themselves that God meant for them to be.
And what's happening is we live in a society that
has homoginized all this thought to where we've deluded ourselves,

(01:31:44):
and in the process of it, we cannot discern good
from evil anymore. We're confused. And if you go in
and you say, oh, well, you know, removing the breast
of my young daughter because she's gender confused, that that's
not a problem and you have to accept that, and
you're going, what are you know, part of you is
screaming and going are you crazy or what?

Speaker 27 (01:32:07):
And you know it was just as studies that came
out because my wife was on cameo for years. I
get the Journal of American Medical Association, The Kid's Brain.

Speaker 6 (01:32:16):
Now I've been teaching this for years because I was
out of a department at Berkeley. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 27 (01:32:20):
But anyway, kids' brains don't completely mature until they're thirty.
That means before they're thirty, you know, they well, it
means that they need to respect their elders like you
respect your father. It means before they're thirty, their decisions
are not as good as they could be. In fact,
there's a whole cognitive study done by a friend of

(01:32:41):
mine that the best soldiers are eighteen nineteen because they're
not mature enough to say this is really stupid running
into gunfire at this time. So why would you let
them make decisions when they're not prepared cognitively to make
those discs?

Speaker 6 (01:33:00):
You've got to be crazy And there must.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Be something ted if we can take just a little
bit more time on this, because you've raised it, you know,
and I really appreciate this opportunity to talk about this,
is that there must be something about that age of
thirty where you have to make a decision to say,
am I going to follow God and gain wisdom as
a result of following God? Because the Bible says quite

(01:33:22):
clearly the beginning of wisdom is the fear of God
and maybe it takes for us to get to thirty
and making a bunch of stupid mistakes, then we start
fearing God enough to where then we wise up a
little bit.

Speaker 8 (01:33:32):
What do you think?

Speaker 27 (01:33:33):
Oh, it's exactly right. And I could go through the
stages of Gardener development, but I won't because Okay, we'll
never get to David.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
Okay, well let's talk movies, because we want to talk
about a couple of movies, like David three.

Speaker 6 (01:33:46):
Right, David one.

Speaker 27 (01:33:49):
This is a brand new, beautiful version of David.

Speaker 6 (01:33:54):
Now.

Speaker 27 (01:33:55):
I know there was a version movie version years ago,
but this is an animated version.

Speaker 6 (01:34:00):
It's absolutely terrific. And I've seen it and.

Speaker 27 (01:34:05):
Angel Studios is releasing it and they're good friends of ours.
In fact, Robbie and another staff member in provo talking
to Angel too, you know, because they do. But it's
a great movie. I saw the movie. Now I have
to give you caution. You know, David's life had a
lot of violence in it. You didn't know that he

(01:34:26):
cut off Goliath said, did you know that?

Speaker 3 (01:34:28):
But anyway, and he killed his best friend to get
his wife.

Speaker 6 (01:34:32):
Yeah, and yeah, we're not going to talk about that.

Speaker 27 (01:34:34):
But we didn't get there in the movie, but there's
some frightening moments, So I'd say it's for eight or
up because I do this whole cognitive development theory thing.
Kids are not prepared to see some of the violence
in it. But this is so well done as David
that it's just it's full of jeopardy, it's full of humor,

(01:34:55):
it's well orchestrated. It's an animated David. And I hate
to say it because John Irwin is a good friend.
It really rivals the house of David. It could be
as a movie.

Speaker 6 (01:35:08):
It's probably the most biblically.

Speaker 27 (01:35:10):
Sound Bible movie that I've seen in a long time.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
And we watch them all.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Yeah, well, I'm glad to hear you say that, and
you know, because I know you hold your your accolades,
you know, genuinely, and so when you say that something
is this good, it really stands out. You mentioned Kevin
Costner earlier, and he's doing his first Christmas.

Speaker 8 (01:35:35):
What's that.

Speaker 27 (01:35:38):
Well, we have a mutual friend, who's his cameraman, who
did dances with wolves and things, who's his wife, used
to direct the plays that my son was in when
Hugh was in high.

Speaker 6 (01:35:50):
School, etc.

Speaker 27 (01:35:51):
So anyway, we've known each other for a while, you know,
casually that's because I'm in the entertainment, but he's you know,
he comes out, which is surprising because of his last
Western series was terrible, and he does a good job
of telling us about the first Christmas. Now it's a

(01:36:11):
three different elements, so it's not a great story.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
It's not like David. It's not one seamless. It's Kevin
talking about him growing up in the church and playing
one of the wise Men.

Speaker 27 (01:36:24):
I don't know who else would have played the wise
men because they weren't that one, but anyway, he was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:30):
He was he was the wise cracker.

Speaker 27 (01:36:34):
Man, and then and then then he talks to experts
about the Nativity, and then he goes and dramatizes. But
it's very well done and it's going to be on
ABC Television, so it's a major program and I'm hoping
that it does extremely well well.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
As we wrap things up, you got some great suggestions for,
you know, for some holiday and Christmas movies that are
see right there at movieguide dot org.

Speaker 27 (01:37:03):
Yes, and I'm also going to tell you my favorite
version of you know, the Scrooge story, the Christmas Carol
is the Muppet Christmas Carol, which is the most Muppet
Christmas Carol. It's the closest to what Charles Dickens wrote.
It's the most exciting, and it's most pro Jesus. So
if you want to see a really pro Jesus come

(01:37:24):
to Jesus, it's before Jim Henson.

Speaker 6 (01:37:27):
Passed on and everything.

Speaker 27 (01:37:28):
I knew Jim Henson a long time ago, and Bob Savage,
who was head of his company, was on my board
of reverence, and we used to go to lunch all
the time. And this Jim came to christ and when
he went to Black Rock Presbyterian Church, and so did
Bob Savage, and it was a I hate to say it,
because we just talked about the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
Was a charismatic church. So if you want to see
a really.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Good why would you hate to say the.

Speaker 6 (01:37:54):
Holy giving a sermon?

Speaker 27 (01:37:58):
And I just had a pastor from John MacArthur's church
come to introduce me to his son who wants to
get in the business. And of course if you listen
to John MacArthur, well, I'm not gonna say that because
he's passed on to heaven and he may understand more
about it than we do.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
And I'm sure he does now anyway.

Speaker 27 (01:38:17):
Anyway, the Buppet Christmas Carol is great if you want
to watch something on TV.

Speaker 6 (01:38:22):
It's the best version of the Christmas Girl.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Well I duly noted there. He is, Ladies and gentlemen,
the one and only Doctor Ted Behar Frommovieguide dot Org.
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Hey, we're back with you. Glad you could be here
with us. I'm Bill Martinez. He is the one and only.
That's his official title. Adam Holtz from Focus on the
Family plugged in dot com. Hey, mister Adam, Merry Christmas
to you.

Speaker 8 (01:42:58):
Merry Christmas to you too.

Speaker 20 (01:42:59):
Bo.

Speaker 8 (01:42:59):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Hey, I'm done terrific. You know, it's the season for
Christmas movie binging. So what is on your can't miss list?

Speaker 8 (01:43:10):
Well, I mean we can look at that a couple
different ways. We can talk about new things out in
theaters and streaming, and you know, we can circle back
and just talk about the perennial favorites that we returned
to over and over again as well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:23):
Well, I'm in I'm into putting it in a blender.
That's fine.

Speaker 8 (01:43:26):
Yeah, So new in theaters this week is an animated
musical biography Bible pick called David Yeah, and that comes
to us courtesy of Angels Studios. And if you have
seen the trailer, and there's been quite a bit of
marketing for this, there's a good chance that you have
seen a commercial or an ad for this animated kids movie.

(01:43:50):
This is a musical take on about the first half
of David's life, so it really deals with things right
up to after King Saul dies. The thing I like
about this movie is that it's rated PG, and it's
it's sanitized, I think in an appropriate way. Sometimes when
we say something sanitized, that's a criticism, But in this case,

(01:44:13):
I think what they've tried to do is take the
high points of David's story from you know, the Prophet
Samuel showing up to anoint him unexpectedly obviously, his battle
with Goliath, his friendship with Jonathan. So we get the
biblical story, but they go a little bit lighter on
the violence because David's story, frankly, is a violent one

(01:44:37):
practically from start to finish.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
Right, right, Well, it's why God would not let him
build a temple.

Speaker 8 (01:44:43):
Yeah, well that's exactly right. And so I think we
get a very approachable, cinematic, musical, animated take on David's life.
And there are a couple points that, in some relatively
min ways, they play a little bit not fast and loose.

(01:45:05):
They take some dramatic license with a couple of the
details in the story from first Samuel, but really, other
than that, there are no caveats here that make me say, oh,
you know, it would have been great. But they did this,
and I think it would be a great conversation starter.
We always talk Bill, you and I about how movies

(01:45:26):
and entertainment offer an opportunity to have a conversation about
worldview with our kids, And in this one, I think
you could say, Hey, we're going to read the story
of David and we're going to watch this movie, and
we're going to compare what scripture has to say with
what we're seeing on the screen, you know, sort of
teaching them even with things that are relatively friendly to

(01:45:48):
our faith, we still need to be thinking critically about
that even as we enjoy the stories.

Speaker 3 (01:45:53):
Yeah, especially the challenging things, because no doubt what will
happen is you will always have some precocious young child
that will raise up the question and say, hey, what
about him killing his best friend?

Speaker 8 (01:46:06):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:46:07):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (01:46:08):
That right now? Right, We're going to circle back to
that in about ten years, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Yeah, good question though, just book market and.

Speaker 8 (01:46:16):
We'll retell you later on. Yeah, right right. Another one
that I think is a is kind of closer to
swing and maybe, if not a full miss, maybe a
foul tip or you know, maybe a single is the
dog movie Mirve. Yeah, and this is over on Prime Video.

(01:46:37):
It stars Zoe Deschanel and Charlie Cox as a couple
that they're having problems, and it's clear that they're living together,
they are now separating, and their poor terrier, MERV, he's
having a heck of a hard time and he turns
into a depressed pooch. And nobody makes a movie about

(01:47:01):
a sad dog and leaves the dog sad as a
general rule, unless we're talking Old Yeller, which is its
own special horrifica, which I'm still going to therapy. I know, right,
we're still in therapy for Old Yeller.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Thanks for bringing that up. Oh my right, go back.

Speaker 8 (01:47:16):
Sorry, you need to call your therapist right now and
schedule another session. So MERV really helps them sort of
realize what matters. He serves as a canine catalyst to
help them reconnect. How'd you like that? Get my literation
on hard this morning? So that that is MERV. There

(01:47:36):
is some suggestive content, there's some language. There's enough here
that as a PG movie, I think these days it's
tempting to think PG, oh, you know, total pass right, Well,
there's enough content here that I would I would at
least tap the brakes before I watch this with younger kids,

(01:48:00):
and I think, just as these things go, everybody needs
a paycheck. And it's clear that that's true, even of
Hollywood folks like Zoe Deschanel and Charlie Cox. Is not
a great movie. It's just you know, of all the
movies made this year, this.

Speaker 3 (01:48:15):
Is one of them. Well, this is like another you know,
deposit from Hollywood that is conditioning the mindset of young people,
all under the guise of PG PG rating. Like you said,
it normalizes things that I don't want to normalize some
of this stuff with kid.

Speaker 8 (01:48:32):
Well, I mean, I think that we just have this
assumption in our culture now that you know, living together
is fine, Like there's no moral or ethical or spiritual
conversation to be had about that. And I think, you know,
even as debauched as like say the eighties were, even

(01:48:52):
in the eighties, you've still had pop songs that dealt
with the subject of sin. You know, I heard the
pet Chop Boys It's a Sin on the radio the
other day and it occurred to me, Man, when was
the last time you heard a pop band singing about
the concept of sin? Doesn't happen? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:49:11):
And this and a couple of decades later, you got
the Dixie Chicks talking about bording the sin wagon.

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
Right, Oh those girls. Sorry, I'm not trying to be demeaning.

Speaker 3 (01:49:25):
But they were talented, very talented in their own right
until they decided to subordinate their talented you know, political wagons.
But anyway, bless your hearts, all right. So okay, so
that's what's coming up at the movie be aware of
okay right now? But what you know, what are the

(01:49:46):
go to movies that you do during this time of season?

Speaker 8 (01:49:49):
You're and your family, you know our go to's. And
I may take a little bit of heat on this.
Our Elf, the Christmas Chronicles and Doctor Seuss's The Grinch,
the most recent animated one. Now, Elf has a couple
things that are mildly suggestive and a little bit inappropriate.

(01:50:09):
There's a little bit of language. Holy cow, we love
that movie. I'm just gonna say, even with the plugged
in disclaimer in place, we just laugh and laugh and laugh. Right,
And there's so many lines from that movie if you're
not familiar with it. Will Ferrell plays a human boy
who ends up getting raised by elves at the North

(01:50:30):
Pole and ventures into New York City to find his
real dad played by James Kahn, who is an executive
at a book company, and he's just kind of a
foul human being. And so it's the redemption story of
the dad, while of course you know, having Christmas joy
and spirit and bringing Santa back. I mean, it's it's

(01:50:51):
a fun movie. And Will Ferrell has certainly done any
number of things that are off the rails over the years,
but this one is I think one of his best movies. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
For me, I'm still stuck in the classics.

Speaker 8 (01:51:03):
Yeah, and then there's the classics, right mayor call thirty
fourth Street.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
Yeah, you always go that, and you know, and it's
just again what you do, I mean, for me, just
like you said, you look for entertainment that you can
come away and you know, just have a respite and
feel good about it, be encouraged and be renewed by
in that. And you know, some of the wonderful life,
wonderful life, I mean, there's just there are a reason
they're always in everybody's Yeah, you know, you can say

(01:51:27):
top fifty, top twenty five, you know, and you know
they're just solid, solid stories, you know, from you know,
from what over fifty sixty years ago, great.

Speaker 8 (01:51:38):
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And and there's a long
list of movies that retell the story of jesus birth
as well. I don't know that I have a solid
favorite among them. One of the more recent ones was
an animated movie called The Star that had an all
star cast and a little bit of of an animal

(01:52:01):
bathroom humor. But I thought it tells the story of
Jesus from the perspective of the animals that we're traveling
with Joseph and Mary, and I thought it was really creative.
I really liked it. That would be one of the
more recent ones. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Well, you know, it's interesting you say that that we're
seeing as an increase in religious religious theme movies totally.
You know, there's something going on. You know, God is
up to something again, He's always up to something, but
you know, and of course to hear from the media,
you know, they've become the pr firm for the devil
and evil right sadly, but that's where they are. And

(01:52:36):
I don't want people of faith to lose faith and
lose hope, especially in this advent season that we're in.
Is that look at God's still on the throne and
the Gift of Christmas is just around the corner, and
you know, and people instinctively are going against the tide.
I mean, Bible sales still up there. I mean they're
on an increase number one selling book consistently for decades now.

(01:53:00):
And so you got the Bible sales, You got churches
across the country reporting increase in attendance, people upset because
visitors are taking their parking spaces and their favorite pew spot.
You know, I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 8 (01:53:14):
Yeah, yeah, And Hollywood is is kind of schizophrenic, if
I can use a mental health term. Like, on one hand,
so much about the worldview that is pumped out of
Hollywood as diametrically opposed to what we believe. And yet
at their core, Hollywood also has a weird conservatism because

(01:53:34):
you know, theoretically Disney recently notwithstanding, they're still interested in
the bottom line. And so I think that's the reason why,
you know, we have on Disney Plus right now, Kevin
Costner presents the first you know, and it's a pretty
solid dramatization of the birth of Christ. And for those

(01:53:56):
for whom Jesus wasn't enough, we also have Kevin Costner,
I mean of funny.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
From from Yellowstone to the Birth of Jesus. Figure out.

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
And I think even with actors at that level, oftentimes
there may be more of a sympathy toward Christianity than
perhaps we would give them credit for. I wouldn't maybe
dad totally.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Yeah, I mean goes how ridiculous, Like you go to
the mall and you see Christmas and what do you
think people are? You know, what do you think it's
all about?

Speaker 8 (01:54:25):
Right? Right? That's exactly right. So that one aired on
ABC the Kevin Costner won earlier this week, and it's
on Disney Plus now streaming. So it's another opportunity, I
think to explore the life of Christ. And maybe you
do that with your kids and then you read the
Christmas story and say, Okay, what did they embellish? What

(01:54:46):
did they help us to understand better? I think that's
the value of true Bible stories on the big screen
is maybe they help you to visualize something in a
way that you never thought about it before. And it's
not even is it right or is it wrong? It's like, oh,
I never thought about that, you know, And.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
It's a great reason to get the family together, put
the cell phones down, everybody's putting the cell phones down,
they're taking a break.

Speaker 8 (01:55:09):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Charlie Kirk's new book about the Sabbath. I think it's excellent.
There's some great advisements in it and disconnecting and you know,
and I appreciate where he he, you know, his journey
that took him to this point. And I've been trying
to do the same thing.

Speaker 20 (01:55:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
And in terms of staying away from electronics, to people
to go, hey, I can't get a hold of you
on Friday, there's a reason, you know, if you know me,
that's my sabbath. And I'm doing everything I can to
disconnect from all electronics and uh. And it's I would
I would encourage, I would encourage the faithful.

Speaker 8 (01:55:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
You know, I just I'm just sharing it with you
because it's made a big difference in my life.

Speaker 8 (01:55:50):
For what well, I think it conditions us ultimately just
to want to consume, Like my brain gets a little
hit of something and it doesn't even have to be bad,
you know. It's I've been following the Broncos this year
as a Colorado, you know, as a Denver Broncos, and
I checked the Broncos news every day and you know,

(01:56:11):
whether it's the stock market, whether you're a news hawk,
whether you're a culture hawk. You know, there's so much,
and we can just get conditioned to I just want
something else, you know, and and but we're just consuming. Right.
It's ultimately, I think often not a particularly redemptive use
of our time, even if there's nothing wrong with the

(01:56:31):
content itself, right, I just get in this mode. And
so the break that you're talking about enables us to
step back from that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39):
It's another gift from God.

Speaker 8 (01:56:41):
Yes, absolutely enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
And rest in it and know that He has got
you know, for more information on movie binging this Christmas holiday? Okay,
and all these great ideas and and entertainment is available.
Where do they go at them?

Speaker 8 (01:56:58):
You kind of plugged in and we, of course are
a ministry of focus on the family.

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