The Bill Martinez Show 12 15 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 15 25

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Are you ready?

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yeah, Okay, let's do an Ill Martinez Live, a program
about current events, our culture, our values, our politics, and
our future.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
And now Bill Martinez.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Hey, good morning. Six minutes after the top of the hour,
Bill Martinez here with you know, the infamous Bill Federer.
Of course, he is the American mintic creator, nationally known speaker,
best selling author, and president of Mayor Search, Inc. Hey,
mister Bill, Merry Christmas to you, Oh Bill.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Great to be with you.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Well, always good to have you here on the show,
and particularly this time of year, the Advent season that
I love so much. You know, you and I had
a chance to spend some time together and talk about
Thanksgiving as the start of this season of giving and
spiritual awakening and tenderness toward Almighty God. Because God is

(00:54):
He's always wanting us to turn to him and his
arms are always wide open and here, especially in this
time and season of Advent, right.

Speaker 6 (01:04):
Well, it's so important to realize the spiritual foundation of this.
I go through it in a book called Believe. But
the understanding is that God is just and he cannot
help it. There are some things that God cannot do.
One is he cannot be unjust, He's just. It's his

(01:27):
very nature, which means he has to judge every sin,
because if he doesn't judge u sin, by default, his
silence would be giving consent to the sin. And so
if he made free will creatures that could love him,
and we sin against him, he has to judge us.
And so he came up with a plan. He actually
had the plan before he created the first electron. The

(01:49):
plan was his own son would become a man, and
only as a man could God die on a cross
to pay for our sins. Charles Wesley wrote the him
amazing love. How could it be that thou, my God,
shouldst die for me? So God is just and he
judges every sin, but he's loving that he provided the
lamb to take the judgment for the sin exactly. And
so the lamb is God's way to love you without

(02:13):
having to judge you. It's his way to get around
his own just nature. So we can continue to be
eternally just. But He's love. And then Jesus, out of
love for the Father and love for you and me,
became the lamb, took the wrath of an eternal just
God upon himself in our place, so that we can
approach this eternal just God and not afterward about being judged. Right,

(02:35):
So the lamb is God's way to love you without
having to judge you. So on Christmas we celebrate that
God sent his son Jesus to earth to be the lamb.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
You know, I look at it in a way. It
was kind of like God's way of doing the do over,
because here was in the garden of Eden, he had
our first parents, Adam and Eve, and you know, they disobeyed,
and being the just God that he is, rendered consequences.
But God still needed I mean, he he designed Adam

(03:07):
as being the first of his creation. But now we
had to redeem what Adam had done. And so it
required the ultimate sacrifice, the perfect lamb, the perfect sacrifice
of his son to redeem us. And so, you know,
I look at it in a way, Bill, I don't
know why, but I just says, it's God's due over.
You know, we're going to do over the creation narrative

(03:31):
in the most perfect of ways. Right.

Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah, that's why the New Testament calls Jesus the second Atom. Yes,
you know, here's the devil and Satan. He's in heaven
and he sends against God. He wants to throw God
out of heaven. Right, he said, I'll put my thrown
above the throne of God. And so Satan sinning against God,
and God cast.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Him out five times. Five times he does that bill
he arrogantly makes the statement that he's going to put
his throne above God. That takes a lot of arrogance.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
You know.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
And there can only be one will in heaven for
there to be peace. And when Satan five times says
I will put my throne above the throne, I will
be like the most. We've got two wills going on here,
and since they're not the same, there's conflict. There's war.
There's war in heaven, and Satan is cast out. So
the devil comes to the garden, goes in and says, hey,

(04:24):
if I get Adam and Eve the sin against God,
God will have to judge him. He gets them to sin.
That was pretty easy. And then he stands back and says.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Haha, you're a just God.

Speaker 6 (04:32):
You have to judge Adaim and he because if you
don't judge their sin by your silence, you'd be giving
consent to the sin. And if you give consent to sin,
you're denying your just nature. You're denying yourself. You're kicked
out of heaven. And God cannot deny himself, so he
sends judgment, and in steps the Lamb to take the hit. Right,
so God made Adam and Eve coats of skins. The

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Lamb slain from the foundations of the world. And so
you know Cain and Abel Caine as an offshoot of
the Church of the fig Lea. If he starts the
Church of the Fruits and the nuts, and his is
a religion of works right. And Abele trusted in the Lamb,
and Noah sacrifice lambs, we got off the arc, and
Abraham sacrifice lambs and Moses had every family in Israel sacrifice.

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The Lamb put the blood on the doorposts of their
house and solo and had a thousand of them sacrificed
when we dedicated the temple. Finally, John the Baptist, points
of Jesus and said, behold the Lamb of God. They
get the way the sends of the world. So but
I put together a book. It's called there really is
a Santa Claus, the history of Saint Nicholas and Christmas
holiday traditions, and so it's just a fun insight into

(05:40):
this season. One of the first things I talked about
is I sort of cleared the table, but I go
through the date of Christmas and people say, oh, well
maybe it was you know, it was the wrong date.
Maybe it was in the spring. It's like, well, let's
look at where the traditional date came from, and if
you like, I can go through this real quick.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, let's do that, because that kind of it
amazes me because you know, you and I've talked about
this before, but it's interesting that that controversy still comes up.
But that's okay.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
So the book Aluke, chapter one says that John the
Baptist dad was in the temple and he was of
the priestly division of a Baija. And it's like, okay,
what's that. It's like a little detective story. So we
got to go through this. King David divided the Levi

(06:33):
priests into twenty four groups to minister at the temple,
and Baija was group number eight. But we don't know
how these groups work. They're just listed. But then when
the Dead Sea scrolls were discovered, they found out the
Sacerdotal Rhoda system, which says that each of those twenty

(06:54):
four family groups will serve twice a year for a
week six months apart. It's like, okay, but when did
they begin? And now we got another clue. Jerusalem was
destroyed on August fourth of seventy eighty on the Jewish calendar,

(07:15):
that's the ninth of Ov. And the Talmud says that
the priestly division that was on duty when the temple
was destroyed was jehoi Arab. Now's another clue. Jehoi Arab
was the first of the twenty four groups, and Abijah's
the eighth of the twenty four groups. And so if

(07:37):
we know that jehoi Arab was on duty that family
group for the first week of August, when August fourth,
when the temple was destroyed, now we can count off
eight weeks later. And eight weeks later is the last
week of September, and so that's when the Abijah family

(07:58):
division would be minister at the temple. Now that's a
big week. At the beginning of the week is the
day of Atonement. End of the week is the Feast
of Tabernacles, and so and so here you have the
Gospel says that Zachariah was chosen by Lot. Now another clue.

(08:19):
There's twenty four thousand levites, and to be chosen only
the high priest goes in the holy holies, but the
regular priests take turns in the Holy Place, and so
chosen by lot means that you know, they draw straws, basically.
And so for Zachariah to be chosen out of twenty

(08:41):
four thousand to be the one ministering every day, lighting
the candle, putting the show bred out in the Holy
Place on this special week, it's it's like a once
in a lifetime opportunity.

Speaker 4 (08:56):
Yeah, without it, without a doubt. I mean, this is
this isn't circumstantial. I mean again, this is the way
God does things. It's always precise. It's according to order
and according to His plan and purpose. We got to
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Bill Veender continues with us the American Minute Grainer. Bill
will continue on with the story Zachariah, the father of
John the Baptist. He by lot is chosen to go
into the Holy holies.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
Go ahead, right, So the last week Istember in the
angel appears and says, your wife's going to conceive. So
he goes back and she concedes. Now, in the Gospel
of Luke twice, the Angel appears to Mary and says,
your cousin Elizabeth is in her sixth month. So six
months after the last week of September is the last
week of March. And so now the traditional dating is

(14:23):
that Mary conceived around March twenty fifth, and so nine
months after March twenty fifth is December twenty fifth, and
so that's where we get the time of December twenty fifth.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
Well, and it's interesting, Bill that you know the way
people again talk about it, that it was something that
you know, in order to offset some pagan rituals and
other things. I mean, men can think about their own
theories and how they're going to orchestrate the calendar but
God's still in charge God, right.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
Yeah, And then the people say, well, you know, it
would have been too cold in December for the sheep
to be in the field. The temperature of Bethlehem and
Jerusalem is modern. In the winter, it's like maybe it
gets down to you know, forty degrees on the coldest night.
It's more like Flagstaff, Arizona. And then there's a lot

(15:18):
of sheep farm websites and they say that lambs are
born around one hundred and forty five days four point
five months after the u falls pregnant, and lambs can lambing,
or the birth of a lamb can start as early
as December. And so this is a lamb farmer's website
saying December you can have. And then what about the

(15:39):
pagan thing. Well, Saturnalia was the Roman festival of Saturn,
and it was on the shortest day of the year,
which is December twenty second, not December twenty fifth. I mean,
if you're going to pick a date to overlap a date,
you'd pick the same date right exactly, and so the
and then you get into it. The Jews did not

(16:02):
celebrate birthdays most of the Middle East and even in Asia,
they don't celebrate birthdays. We visited Turkey and my wife
asked this one woman, you know when her birthday was,
and she had to dig through her cards and found
it and oh, yeah, this is the day. She didn't
even have memorized because they don't celebrate. So the Jews didn't,
but the Gentiles did. And so it was only after

(16:24):
the second third century that you would have this interest.
And when was Jesus born. Prior to that, the big
day was, you know, the date of the resurrection. And
so then you have the records of church fathers saying
there's a saint Hippolytis of Rome two four a d.

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And he talks about Jesus being born on December twenty fifth.
Now why is that significant Because the Romans did not
start celebrating soul invictis the birth of the Sun God
until two seventy four AD. So it's actually Christians were
celebrating December twenty fifth.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Before the pagan right exactly.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
And it's almost like Kwanza was this made up holiday
specifically to draw attention away from Christmas from Jesus. The
thought is that the Romans had this growing movement of
Christians that they were trying to stamp out, and the
Christians had December twenty fifth, so they decided to pick
their Pagan day to overlap the Christian Day. Yeah right,

(17:34):
so instead of it being oh, Christians followed the Pagans,
it looks like it's the other way around, right exactly. Anyway,
I get into that, that's a little more academic. The
fun part of my book is I get into the
history of Saint Nicholas, and he was the most popular
Greek Orthodox Saint. Saint Nicholas is to Greeks what Saint
Peter is to Roman Catholics, and that's why you have
so many Greek people named Nick or so many you know.

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Nicholas and a movement swept through Christianity in the third
century called monasticism or Pietism that said, if you're really
a Christian, you should follow the rich young ruler, give
away all your money to the poor, and then come
and follow me. So Christians would give away their money
and join monasteries. And so Nicholas inherited a lot of

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money from his parents and he wants to give the
money away, but he doesn't want to get the credit
for it. What good would that do? So he would
sneak in the town at night time in the little
town of Patawa, Asia Minor today that's Turkey, and throw
money in the window a poor people, and supposedly it
would land. And if she were a stock, And that's
driven by the fireplace. And one story became popular. A
merchant in the town had gone bankrupt, and the creditors

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would not only take your house and lands, they'd take
your children. And this father had three beautiful daughters. He
knew it would be a terrible life if they got taken,
so he comes up with an idea. He thought if
he could hurry up and marry the daughters off, the
creditors couldn't take them. Unfortunately, he did not have money
for a dowry, which was needed in that area of
the world for a legally recognized wedding. Nicholas, here's a problem.

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Late one night throws money in the window, and the
oldest daughter has a dower.

Speaker 15 (19:04):
He gets married.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
And then another night he throws money and for the
second daughter she gets married. And by the time it's
the third daughter's turn, the dad's waiting up runs outside
catches Nicholas. Nicholas makes him promise not to tell and
that's the origin of the traditional secret gift giving on
the anniversary of Nicholas's death. The Greeks have lots of
more stories that after he gave away his money, Nicholas

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wanted to join a monastery in Zion. The Lord tells
him not to hide his light under a bushel. Comes
back to Myra, a port city in Asia Minor. Right,
all seven churches mentioned in the Book of Revelation were an
Asia Minor.

Speaker 16 (19:39):
And.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
Unbeknownst to him, the bishop had died. The church leaders
could not decide who the next bishop was going to be,
and one of them has a dream. The first person
the church the next day would be named Nicholas, and
he was to be their bishop. Well, Nicholas's habit was
to be the first one in church. They tell him
the news and he's not too thrilled because the Roman
emperor die Cletian was arresting bishops and killing them. So

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it's sort of like you be the bishop. No, no, you
first exactly, and he's arrested, put in jail awaiting death,
and then the emperor of the world resigns. It's Diocletian.
He's been persecuting Christians for decades and he's the Christians
are praying he's struck with an intestinal disease, so painfully
abdicates the throne May first, three oh five AD. The

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next emperor, or Galerius, continues persecuting Christians. He's struck with
an intestinal disease. Dies. It's a toss up between four generals,
and it finally comes down to Constantine and Maxentius and
the Battle of the Milvian Bridge outside of Rome. And
the day before the battle, Constantine sees the sign of
Christ in the sky, puts it on all the shields
and symbols and wins. What's the sign of Christ?

Speaker 5 (20:47):
The first two.

Speaker 6 (20:48):
Greek letters for the name Christ. Hebrew it's Messiah, which
means the anointed one, and Greek it's Chris Christus or Christ.
The letter in Greek that the sound is written as
an X. It's called kai, and the letter that makes
the erth sound is called row, and it's written as

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a big P. So it's an X and a P
the first two Greek letters for the name Christ. And
that's what you see on Constantine shields and symbols in
the fourth century. Now, over the years it got shortened
just to the chive v X, and it was called
the Christ's cross or Chriss cross. Chris cross means Christ's cross,
and that's where you get Xmas. Yes, so Xmas is

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not crossing out Christ. It's the Greek letter Kai that
stood for Christ. And then it became part of an
oath swear to tell the truth. So help you got yeah,
I cross my heart the Christ cross and then sign
on a document to where the true do you sign
it the Christ cross, signed it the X and then
they would kish it to show sincerity, and that's the
x's and o's in the bottom of a Valentine. So
now Constantine legalizes Christianity. Nichols has led out of jail

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and he preaches against paganism. So one of the seven
wonders of the ancient world is the temple to Diana,
and she had the temple prostitutes, and it's the las
vegas of the Mediterranean possible against diana worship x nineteen.
Nicholas preaches against diana worship and they tear her temple down.

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And then he preaches against exposure of unwanted infants. That
was the Roman version of abortion. Preaches against the Olympic
Games because they ran them unclad. I don't get into
all that, but the Greeks seen all those statues. And
then there's the Arian heresy, and a guy named Arius
says Jesus was less than God, a created being, and

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it begins to split the Church. And since Constantine made
Christianity the de fact or religion, it's splitting the Roman Empire.
Constantine orders all the church leaders to come together in
one place for the first time ever, at Nicea, and
they write, then I see and creed the excommunicate areas.
And this year is the seventeen hundred year anniversary of

(23:03):
the Consul, and I see A three twenty five eight,
twenty twenty five eighty. And so the pope and the
Greek Orthodox patriarch met just a short time ago in Nicea,
and they said, the nice In creed together. But the
Greeks have the tradition that Nicholas slapped areas at the consul,

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and I see you for starting the Arian heresy. So
there's all this ancient artwork of Nicholas reaching over and
slapping areas.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
And well, Bill Federer, we got to leave it there.
And of course you can read all about it, as
they say, And there really is a Santa Claus, the
history of Saint Nick and Christmas holiday traditions. Again, Bill,
you and Susie have just given us such a great gift.
I mean, it's just awesome.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
It's fun. The Dutch add to it that Jesus will
return at the end of the world judge living in
the dead riding a white horse. Saints will come back
with him riding a white horses. Saint Nicholas is a saint,
so he'll be one of those riding a white horse.
But he's so special to the Dutch they have him
coming back once a year for a little mini judgment
day and he stresses a bishop riding white horse. But
over the years, the saints come from heaven that turns

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into the North Pole, and the angels turn into elves,
and the Lamb's Book of Life turns of the Book
of the Naughty and the Nice, and the horses turn
into reindeer. Anyway, but you go back, there's some biblical
stories woven in there.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Well, that's awesome. Bill Fetterer, the American Minute creator again
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weekly reports and history notes there, Bill.

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Yeah, it's Americanminute dot Com.

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Here it is Check it out. Bill Fetder, Merry Christmas,
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Speaker 4 (30:04):
Yeah, the whole truth and nothing but right, John, Right, Yeah, exactly. Well,
I want to talk about something you wrote at the
Brew here, and this has been disturbing Charni Kirk's wife, Erica,
had brought this out here recently in her interviews on
Fox and other places, and that has to do with
these silly conspiracy theories about Charnie Kirk's killer.

Speaker 20 (30:28):
Well, it's more than silly. First of all, the horrible
tragedy that Charlie Kirk was assassinated by a left wing
sexual degenerate who was involved in the transgender movement. And
now that became that was a moment of spiritual revival,
and we saw people going back to church, We saw

(30:50):
turning Point USA chapters becoming more overtly theological as Charlie
was becoming over the years. And then it's spiritual warfare.
The devil stepped in to try to snuff it out,
to try to divert the powerful witness of Charlie's death,
end of his life and turn it to the most squalid,

(31:10):
gutter conspiracy theories peddled by, first of all, Candice Owens,
who I'm not sure if she's crazy or if she's
actually possessed, and I'm not using hyperbole. Milo Ianopolis is
another person. Both of them claim to be converts to Catholicism,

(31:31):
and both of them seem to me to have dark spirits,
and they seem to be devoted to destruction and to
tearing down everything, every good thing that Charlie Kirk built,
every good thing that we're trying to do in America.
They're trying to make us paranoid, make us distrust everyone. Now,

(31:53):
we know we shouldn't trust the deep state, we shouldn't
trust the mainstream media, but they're trying to make us
distrust absolutely everyone. And Candace own is even cast doubt
and suspicion on Charlie Kirk's wife and his best friends
that there's some sort of dark conspiracy behind it, that
there was a power grab. It's it's just it's not

(32:16):
based on any reality. It kind of reminds me of
monkeys in cages throwing poop at the wall. They're just
throwing theories out there to get clicks, to make money, literally,
to make money. Why didn't Candice Owe just show up
at Charlie Kirk's funeral and try to sell tupperware? I
mean that would be just as classy as what she's

(32:36):
doing now. Yeah, and then might actually interfere with the
prosecution of the man who apparently shot.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
That's that's what I was gonna say, is this compromises everything.
It taints the jury pool. Yeah, the Chinese love and
you got to know that these attorneys here and the
way Utah's handling this whole situation, you think that Charlie
Kirk's accused murder was the victim.

Speaker 15 (33:00):
Right right.

Speaker 20 (33:01):
And yeah, Andy Engo, who's been a heroically courageous journalist
in chronicling the terrorist activities of Antifa, he is the
guy who came out and said, this may make it
impossible to put his killer in prison. And if you
really want to, if you want a conspiracy theory, here's
one I think might have some validity. Whoever it was
in the deep state that authorized Charlie Kirk's murder, because

(33:25):
I don't think this guy was acting alone. I think
there was probably some deep state involvement. I think there
probably was in the assassination attempts on Trump too. Whoever
was in the deep state that authorized the murder also
authorized this syop of all these conspiracy theories in order
to taint the durru pool so that their killer doesn't
actually have to do any time in prison. There that's

(33:47):
their backup plan for protecting him.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Well, you know, like there's nothing new here, John, I mean,
this has been done time and time again, you know,
just you know, to kind of cloud up the perspective,
and you know, whether we're talking nine to eleven, the
Kennedy assassination, just go right on down the list. I mean,
this is all their modus operendi, is it not.

Speaker 20 (34:08):
Yeah, we really can't put anything past the people in
the FBI and the CIA. I mean, we know they
tried to take down President Trump. They tried to falsely
paint him as a trader, as a Russian agent. They
use facts that they knew were false, they used fake information,
they leaked it to the media. They tried to peach

(34:31):
him twice. It was all to try to overturn the
results of the Democratic election. We've got federal judges nullifying
every legitimate decision Trump makes with this constitutional executive authority.
They're just saying no. I think a lot of the
Republicans in Congress would actually rather lose them in terms
so that the next two years can be all about

(34:52):
impeaching Donald Trump. Because what they want, what the Republican
establishment still wants, is to purge the foreign body of
Trump and his populism from the Republican Party and take
back the party, recreate the Republican Party of Mitt Romney
and Paul Ryan, which basically existed like the Washington generals.

(35:16):
Those were the white guys whose job it was to
lose every night graciously to the Harlem globetrotters. The Republican Party,
the old pre Trump Republican Party, played to lose so
that it could then fundraise and pay itself enormous salaries
on the backs of SAPs like you and me writing
little checks to the Republican Campaign Committee to try to

(35:36):
take back our country, when in fact they were playing
to lose. We saw John McCain, who had opposed Obamacare
and ran on opposing it.

Speaker 15 (35:46):
Flew back.

Speaker 20 (35:46):
One of his last votes in the Senate was to
vote to keep Obamacare in place. And we know what
Obamacare is. It's a massive wealth transfer, first of all
to our healthcare companies, whose profits have gone up seven
hundred percent since Obamacare. And secondly, it's well transferred from
the middle class to the welfare class, with the health

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Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, so much for the Democratic Party narrative that they're
for the little guy right.

Speaker 20 (36:19):
Therefore keeping the little guy little, making everyone in the
middle little again. The Democrats want a society like colonial Mexico,
a big hacienda on the hill with a man in
a white straw hat and a bunch of guards with rifles,
and everybody else is down in the favela and is
afraid of their death squads. We saw that during the
COVID panic, that what happened during COVID, the lockdowns, the

(36:43):
force vaccinations, they were setting up in tournament camps in
Australia for the unvaccinated, and our own Centers for Disease
Control set on its website that it planned to do
the same thing here. So locked in your house, fired
if you won't get take a dangerous new vaccine. DOUN
aborted babies, your church's clothed, the abortion clinics opened, the

(37:04):
media censored anyone who spoke out, doctors, e ademiologists, anyone
who spoke out against the narrative was labeled a murderer
and was fired, disbarred, kicked out of the medical profession.
That kind of totalitarian society is what the Democrats want,
and we see they're already doing it in Britain Great Britain.

(37:26):
Dozens of citizens are arrested every day for just complaining
about immigration. And while the government brings in thousands of
Muslim young men of military age and puts them in
barracks is all around the country. And when they rape
Native girls, if the Native girls complain about it, or
their family complains about it. The people complaining get longer

(37:46):
prison sentences than the rapists exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Well, and look what else is going on. The farmers
are revolting there, John, They're bringing the government of England
to its knees.

Speaker 20 (37:57):
Well, I hope so that government I would not see
anything about the farms.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Oh my god. They they have stormed the Beastille in tractors. John.
They got thousands of tractors that have gone there and
they've stopped the government. They're actually in a way, they're
doing a siege ramp against the government. Wow.

Speaker 20 (38:17):
Well, I tell you the situation in Great Britain is
so bad that I don't think there's any way of
avoiding an eventual civil war. And the government is on
the side of Muslim colonists. They're colonizing the place with
foreigners who will vote their way and for militias. I mean,
this is it's it's like what the US cavalry did

(38:40):
to the American Indians in the Midwest, where you're just
taking land and resettling it with popwood settlers who will
obey your orders, who will be on your side. It
is that blatant. It's basically an act of genocide. Genocide
by Western governments against Western peoples.

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stream tv? John? Is that the official to stream dot org.

Speaker 20 (43:50):
Our main website is becoming the portal for top notch
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Speaker 4 (44:10):
Yeah, we're all looking forward to it. Well, John to
kind of put a rap on what we were talking
about here with you know, what's going on in London,
I mean it poor tends to what's happening here in
the West. I mean, it is amazing to say how
quickly this this crippled, you know, London. It's amazing to me.

Speaker 20 (44:29):
Well, we saw what our masterclass had in mind, what
our rulers had in mind, when Joe Biden just opened
the borders to all comers and ten twenty million people
flooded the country. And now judges are illegally stopping Donald
Trump from deporting even a few thousand of them. And
there's a wave of violence against ICE officers. It's something

(44:51):
like an eight hundred percent email.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
No, it's over over twelve hundred percent.

Speaker 20 (44:55):
Now, John over twelve hundred percent, and it's being justified.
Maxine Waters called the removal of the legal immigrants ethnic cleansing.
U a bishop and a Catholic bishop in West Virginia
compared ICE officers to Nazi concentration camp guards. Now, what's
what is it legitimate to shoot Nazi guards? Well, then

(45:16):
I guess in this uh, with that argument, it's legitimate
to shoot ice officers. This is is domestic terrorism that
is being justified by our ruling classes and our pastors
and our bishops and our media. We're what we're seeing
is something it's a color revolution, you know, like the

(45:36):
US used to do in Latin America, our CIA would
overthrow governments that we thought might be leaning communists. Uh,
our CIA didn't give up on overthrowing governments and sent
and controlling the media. Mike Benz everybody should follow him
on YouTube. Mike Benz. He is a former former intelligence guy.
He said, when the Berlin Wall fell, Western intelligence agencies

(46:01):
turn their gaze on their native populations, on controlling their
native populations, on stopping conservative Christian patriotic political parties from
taking power, censoring them in the media. And now we
see huge majorities support these conservative parties, even in France
and Germany, and they're outlawing the parties, they're putting the

(46:25):
candidates in prison, they're censoring the media. What we have
are dictatorships coming to power, gradually closing off every means
of descent in countries that we thought were free. Much
of NATO is now as bad as the Warsaw Pact
used to be, and we're supposed to support them. We're
supposed to defend them and send our troops to fight

(46:46):
for them. Donald Trump's recent national security document. Everyone should
find get hold of the official national security document issued
by the President last week. It's all about how NATO
is turning into the Warsaw Pact right, and it's persecuting
its people. It's doing worse, worse than the Soviet Union.

(47:06):
The Soviet Union never imported millions of foreign colonists to
come in and replace the native population. Even Communism wasn't
as insane as what's being done now in the name
of diversity in Europe, and Pope Leo is defending it.
He had the nerve, I have a piece of stream
dot org about this. Pope Leo the nerve to say,

(47:28):
anyone who's afraid of Muslims, Muslim immigrants, you're you're just wrong.
I mean, look, we live in peace with Muslims in Lebanon,
he pointed to Lebanon. Lebanon was a majority Catholic country
set up as a refuge for Middle Eastern Christians because
of immigration, mostly of Palestinians. Christians are now twenty five

(47:48):
percent of the population and they live in terror. They
are persecuted by Muslim militias. The country went from being
a playground, vacation playground to a hellhole. Used to say
that Beroot was the Paris of the Middle East. Well,
now because of Muslim immigration. Paris is becoming the bay

(48:08):
root of Europe. Well, the Pope supports all this.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, look at look at the numbers here, Johan. In
twenty ten, the Muslim population in the United Kingdom was
two point eight million. They're projecting by the year twenty
thirty four years from now, it'll be five point five million,
which is an increase of ninety four percent.

Speaker 20 (48:32):
And they have a much higher birth rate.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Well, of course, yeah, because they're you know, they're they're
spitting them out like biscuits.

Speaker 20 (48:38):
And because they don't have any they don't have any
respect for women except as breeders of new Muslim soldiers.
That's how they see. They treat the women the way
we treat factory farm chickens.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Yes, that's their plan and strategy. And you look at
these numbers that has been put out. This this is
according to the Copenhagen protocols. And it's it's amazing. I mean,
everything is. It's there's nothing less than I think forty percent.
Everything is forty up to a high of one hundred

(49:13):
and forty six percent in New Zealand, for example. You
know the projective growth even in New Zealand, John of
all places.

Speaker 20 (49:21):
Well, they you know, jihad is the central pillar of Islam.
Religious war is their sacrament. It's their equivalent of the
Great Commission.

Speaker 15 (49:30):
Or the Eucharist.

Speaker 20 (49:32):
And they have multiple forms of jihad. There's military jihad,
spiritual jihad. They also talked about the jihad of immigration,
where you settle non Muslim countries with Muslims, and then
the Jihad of the cradle, where you outbreed non Muslims
and then you take over and you subject everyone to
third class Jim Crow regulations, special taxes, special laws restricting

(49:57):
non Muslim behavior, intended according to the Quran, to humiliate
and subjugate non Muslims so that they eventually give up
and convert. And that is how countries like Syria and
Egypt and Tunisia and Morocco, which were once Christian countries
were turned into Muslim countries. That's what happened in Turkey,
and that's what they intend for the entire world, because

(50:19):
their goal is a Muslim planet.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Well, this historic policy paper that Trump put out that
you refer to, again, not surprised the mainstream media could
care less. I mean they're not even curious about this.
I mean, you see what's going on. I mean, even
the reports on what's going on England, Like I told you,
very few people are aware of what's going on, what
the farmers are doing there because you know Starmar well,

(50:46):
he you know, said hey, we're going to tax the
holy what have you out of the farmers. Basically he's
stealing their farms. Just what you said, Yeah, you know,
through taxation. He's stealing their farms away. And the farmers
have said hell no. And tractors are there in Britain
and they're blocking up their siege working. And so this
is all, you know again, part and parcel and indicative

(51:08):
of what Trump is warning about. And the mainstream media
lacks curiosity and interest. I mean, what you're talking about here, John,
that NATO is wrapping up its its tent tier is NATO.

Speaker 20 (51:22):
NATO has become an anti American alliance and an anti
Christian alliance, and we should we should walk away from
it tomorrow. Let them defend themselves, let them prosecute their stupid,
pointless war in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Or give up exactly. But there's no wonder why we're
not satisfying and being able to take care of the
Ukraine Russian war.

Speaker 20 (51:45):
Right, Well, that should have been. That should never have happened.
That only happened because our deep state overthrew a legitimate,
democratically elected Ukrainian government because they thought it was too
pro Russian. And then they honeycombed the Ukrainian establishment with
CIA officers, and they started opening abortion clinics and transgender

(52:06):
clinics and trying to transform Ukraine in the image of
San Francisco and Berkeley, California, and try to shoehorn Ukraine
into NATO, into a nuclear military alliance that's aimed at Russia.
That was the equivalent of when Nikita Kristjeff tried to
put Soviet missiles in Cuba and John F. Kennedy was

(52:29):
ready to start World War Three to get those missiles
out of Cuba. It's no surprise that Pewtin was willing
to invade Ukraine to stop Ukraine from joining NATO. We
would not like Mexico to join an alliance with China.
We would not tolerate that. No more would putin tolerate
Ukraine in NATO. The whole thing was ginned up. Almost

(52:49):
a million Europeans are dead or crippled as a result
of this pointless war. That is the fault of Joe
Biden and ultimately traceable to election fraud. And what's happening
in Ventezuela is really important because the government of Venezuela,
the communist dictatorship there, took power through election fraud using
software from this company called Smartmatic that later was acquired

(53:11):
by Dominion. And now we have whistleblowers, former spy chiefs
of Venezuela writing letters to Trump saying our software can
be used to steal elections. We know it is being
used to steal elections around the world, including in America.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
So I over seventy countries, John, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 (53:28):
So Trump is trying to overthrow the Venezuelan government in
order to get proof of that election fraud so he
can proved not only that the twenty twenty election was stolen,
but that the midterms are probably going to be stolen.
The next presidential election might be stolen because the software
currently in place all across America was written by Venezuelan

(53:49):
communists using China and is installed on Chinese made computers
with all sorts of back doors open to where it
can be the results can be altered from foreign countries.
We now know the only reason the twenty twenty four
election wasn't stolen. Was that a server farm in Serbia
which was going to be the hub of throwing the
election to Kamala Harris. Some white hat hackers heroically disabled

(54:12):
it just in time to stop it from stealing all
the swing states. And if you don't believe me, go
to Emerald Robinson's show and watch the whistleblowers she's interviewing
about this. It is going to be God willing that
government will fall and we will find all the proof
we need to vindicate the January sixth protesters, Sidney Powell,

(54:33):
John Eastman, Rudy Giuliani, all the heroes who were persecuted,
some of them imprisoned, bankrupted, hounded by our deep state.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Exactly. You know, I've been saying, John, as you know,
I'm just looking for that thread that and something tells
me that thread that will pull on comes out of Venezuela,
and that is going to lift the shroud on all
this bs and deception that America has been put under,

(55:06):
you know, as a result of you, you know, and
you got to put it at the steps of Democrats
and certainly some you know, some congenial Republicans sadly to say,
we got to leave it there. Doctor John Zamerica from
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Do you know?

Speaker 20 (55:28):
I think next week.

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We'll be hitting the ground off and run and hard
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Good morning, Welcome six minutes after the top of the hour.
Right now, Bill Martinez here with doctor David Mantick. He's
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Plaza was just the final stop, Doctor Mansick. Welcome to show.
Good to have you with.

Speaker 15 (57:08):
Us, Yes, good morning.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Well, Uh, the jfcass out of here we are you know,
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you know have been hidden from the American people.

Speaker 15 (57:58):
Yes, so, over nine full days at the National Archives,
I took hundreds of measurements. In fact, I have three
full notebooks worth of data. Wow.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
So, and were you surprised that they let you stay
that long?

Speaker 15 (58:14):
I was a little surprised. I had to twist their
arms a little bit, but eventually I got in and
it was a full day each time. I was there
for nine days.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Well, this is this has been something you know. You know,
probably you and I are of similar rage, and we
you know, I've grown up with the JFK assassination and
have interviewed probably close to a dozen people, all very
accomplished and very wise with their own ideas. But still

(58:46):
we're just you know, I've been waiting for that final answer,
you know, to the JFK assassination, because there's been so
much of a false narrative that was dropped into the
minds of people on that faithful day going forward.

Speaker 15 (59:01):
Right, Yes, during the first week after the assassination, false
data was planted into the case. And that includes the
autopsy X rays and the autopsy photographs as well In fact,
the official conclusion was based on two items that the
autopsy pathologists did not even see at the autopsy. One

(59:25):
was a six point five millimeters apparent bullet cross section
on the frontal X ray, and the second one was
a red spot on the back of his head in
the photographs that no one saw at the autopsy and
no one saw at Parkland either. So the official conclusion

(59:46):
is based on two totally illusory facts or facts of fakes,
I should.

Speaker 4 (59:52):
Say, right, fakes, yeah, facts in their own mind. Yes,
they tried to convince everybody of I mean. And the
fact that they basically confiscated the body before a proper
autopsy could be could be effected there in Dallas.

Speaker 15 (01:00:09):
Right, yeah, illegally that was an illegal move.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Right, And so again this just says where where our
government is and what is it that they were hiding
and have been hiding these sixty two years.

Speaker 15 (01:00:25):
Well, the x rays and the photographs originally would have
clearly shown that there was a large hole in the
back of JFK's head near the right occiput. Anybody who
saw that, and lots of people did at the autopsy
and at Parkland, they were all convinced that he had
been killed by a frontal shot. Of course Oswald was

(01:00:47):
behind him, so that wouldn't fit. It would clearly mean
that there was at least one gunman firing from the front.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Right, because had it been from the back, the hole
in the back of his head would have been less significant.
Let's say that way, absolutely right, right, And so so
this is you know, this really is problematic. So your
analysis of these original X rays reveal the trajectory of

(01:01:16):
the fatal shot. It's conclusive, no doubt in your mind whatsoever.

Speaker 15 (01:01:21):
No, let me give you a little example. There was
there were three fatal headshots, actually, but the one that
is most obvious from the X rays came in near
the right forehead, right near the hairline. And the reason
we know that is that we can see tiny metallic
fragments on the X rays on both left and right laterals,

(01:01:45):
and you don't get tiny metallic fragments from a shot
from the rear. These tiny pieces do not travel that far.
This absolutely means they had to come from the front.
And when you additionally look at the photograph, you could
see at the same site a scalpel incision which the
pathologists made right over that wound. So as to obscure it.

(01:02:10):
So we have absolutely definitive evidence of a frontal shot
right near the forehead at the hairline, and we have
eyewitnesses to this also both at Parkland and at Bethesda
where the autopsy was done. This wound appeared in original
photographs that were taken at Bethesda, so there's virtually no

(01:02:32):
doubt that he was hit at least once from the front.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
When you said that the scalpel was utilized in such
a way to manipulate evidence, was that done at Parkland
or was that done in DC.

Speaker 15 (01:02:46):
No, that had to be done at the autopsy. In fact, Boswell,
who was one of the pathologists, described it quite precisely
as a quote insized wound end. Quote does not mean
a bullet. An incision means a scalpel, and the wound
is not caused by a scalpel. A wound is caused
by a bullet. So basically Boswell gave the game away.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Right, Doctor Mantik. The fact that you had metallic elements
that were were realized there and that you know in
the part of the skull, does that say also that
the shot was closer than from behind in the top
of the building.

Speaker 15 (01:03:29):
I don't think that X ray evidence tells us how
far away the gunman was. Now, if that's what you're asking.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
Well, I'm just thinking, you know, why would the metallic
show up on the side as opposed to from behind.
Maybe I'm asking the wrong question, Maybe I misunderstood.

Speaker 15 (01:03:48):
Well, there is a bullet trail of metallic debris that
extends from the front of the skull going backward. It
doesn't quite go to the absolute rear of the skull,
but it's absolute much more consistent with the final shot. Now,
with respect to that posterger shot that the pathologists described,
and I agree with, there is no metallic trail associated

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with that at all.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Now, clearly this real shot narrative just phades with the evidence,
doesn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:04:19):
Yeah, it's totally consistent with everything we know about this case.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
Now, of course, we're in the middle of a Cold
War in nineteen sixty three. How could that have influenced
the handling of JFK's autopsy and the public narrative? What
influence did that have?

Speaker 15 (01:04:40):
Well, the Cold War was the relevant theme of the day,
that's for sure. The original plotters were quite sure wanted
to use this assassination event as an attempt to ultimately
invade Cuba, so the onus would have on the Cubans

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and indirectly on the Russians as well. However, the motive,
so the supposed motive, i should say, was changed by
LBJ and the higher ups because they didn't want to
throw this into the faces of the Russians. They were
afraid of what would happen, so they decided instead of

(01:05:22):
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blame it on Oswald, who supposedly had no connections politically
of any kind. So the whole background of the plot
was changed mid stream, so to speak.

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Yeah, exactly, Well, we've got to go to quick Break,
stay whether us. We've got more from David Mantick, as
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Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Welcome back. I'm Bill Martinez. He's davidmantic Doctor David Mantick.

Speaker 15 (01:10:32):
Well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
He comes with receipts and with a background that is
extremely informative as a forensic radiologist and physicist personally review
JFK's original autopsy x rays at the National Archives, as
we reported earlier, for nine days. So as you are
reviewing all this evidence and seeing the conflict of the

(01:10:55):
Warrant Commission and other studies that followed doctor Mantick, it
almost it seems that the studies after the Warrant Commission
didn't really bring any more light. Is almost like they
were trying to, I don't know, lend some support to
a false narrative.

Speaker 15 (01:11:15):
Yes, I discussed this in my book, especially in the introduction.
The Rockefeller Commission, of course, was led by Nelson Rockefeller,
who actually assumes a rather major role in my book,
I even record a conversation that supposedly occurred between Nelson
Rockefeller and Jay Edgar Hoover about how they were going

(01:11:37):
to cover this up afterwards, and I give the sources
for that. Nelson Rockefeller, of course was very involved in
the nineteen fifty three Guatemala who as well. He had
huge financial investments there, and so he was kept informed
about each step of the coup, so he was really

(01:11:58):
an insider. To make this it's even more interesting about
Nelson Rockefeller. He was a very good friend of General
ed Lansdale, who I believe was the guy in charge
of the assassination teams in Dealey Plaza. But of course
after the Rockefeller Commission, we had the House Select Committee

(01:12:19):
on Assassinations in the seventies, who really just threw a
lot of confusion into this story. And I summarized that
in my book. And then finally, of course, we had
the Assassination Records Review Board in the nineties, which finally
gave us a lot of the medical evidence which was
very key to unraveling this case.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Doctor Mantick. And of course this is outside of your expertise,
but as you were looking at this and along the way,
I keep thinking, we're going to find who was the
one you mentioned was Lansdale? Was his name?

Speaker 15 (01:12:54):
Yeah? Lansdale, Ed Lansdale.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:12:56):
Well, let me insert a very odd fact into the story.
The publisher my book wrote the publishers forward and he
tells us that his father was a colleague of Ed Lansdale.
What an amazing coincidence. I did not know this when
I writing my book.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
Right, uh So, But you know, I keep thinking, we're
going to find you know, it's like, you know, like
with Nixon, you know, you had deep throat. There was something.
There was some pivotal, pivotal individual who had orchestrated this
that said, Okay, we've got to we've got to assassinate JFK.

Speaker 15 (01:13:34):
Well, we do have a number one suspect, that's for sure.
If you're asking that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Question, Yes, I am, I am, I'm asking that question.

Speaker 15 (01:13:41):
General Charles Willoughby, who was second in command in the
Pacific Theater during World War Two. He served directly under
Douglas MacArthur. He knew all the right people. He spoke Spanish,
so he knew the anti Castro Cubans, he knew Otto Skorzini,
the master of his fascinations with headquarters in Spain. Willoughby

(01:14:04):
had visited there, and Willoughby had worked closely with Lansdale
in the Philippines to suppress a Philippine insurrection. So these
people all knew each other. So if you want a
number one suspect, you cannot find anyone better suited with
all the right credentials than Charles Willoughby, who also knew

(01:14:26):
Jaeger Hoover and communicated regularly with.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Him when he had that kind of force and influence
to control. I mean, in this case, the FBI and
the CIA, because you know, when you say consensus again,
you know everything that I've been reading over the years. Boy,
there's lots of fingers and lots of conjecture here.

Speaker 15 (01:14:48):
Yeah. My book is mainly about relationships about who knew
who and what they believed. Uh. Ultimately, LBJ had to
be the lynchpin, as I would call him, behind all
of this. He had to be in charge of all
the cover ups in the government agencies such as the CIA,
the FBI, and the Secret Service. And I outline a

(01:15:10):
very strong case that he had foreign knowledge. I don't
think he had detailed knowledge of how this was going
to happen, but he knew when it was going to happen,
because we show photographs of him ducking just before the
shots rang out in Dally Plaza.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Yeah. The other thing that's quite interesting is there's that
iconic photo of George H. Walker Bush and at that
point he's with the CIA, and he's there right there
at Daily Plaza.

Speaker 15 (01:15:41):
Yeah, and he was informed right after the assassination. He
was kept in the loop by the CIA. That definitely
was George Herbert Walker Bush. There's no other Bush in
the CIA who fits that picture. And in my book,
I also very clearly note all the strange and weird

(01:16:03):
characters that George Herbert Walker Bush knew and associated with.
I can't pin this on George. We don't have enough
objective evidence, but he surely knew a lot of the
people who were in the background in this case.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
Well. And that's the thing that's amazing, is that you
have this association of people who are aware and know,
but it's just being able to get something there that sticks.
It's interesting right now because here in the modern era,
we have an attempted assassination on a presidential candidate, as
you know, in Butler, Pennsylvania, and all of a sudden

(01:16:41):
they're reporting that this shooter was the lone gunman, and
it's like, oh my god, this is Oswald Dejavou part two.

Speaker 15 (01:16:48):
Yeah, the lone gunman rings loudly throughout history. I made
the point that this month we noted the thirtieth anniversary
of the assass nation of Yitzak Rabin, who happened to
be in Dallas on the day that Kennedy was shot.
Can you imagine that? But there was a lone gunman

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in that case, and of course he did not really
kill Yitzac Rabin. Either it was someone.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Else, right, yeah, And so it's interesting because it seems
like it's expedient to be able to say there's a
loan gunman, right.

Speaker 15 (01:17:23):
Yeah. The plotters in this case are sent by the
elite of their society to presumably save their society from traders,
so they have to cover their tracks, and the easiest
way to do this is depended on one relatively innocent man,
although in this case I don't think Oswald was totally innocent.

(01:17:46):
He said I'm a patsy, so that implies that he
knew something.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
Right. No, there was no doubt about it. In fact,
I still wonder between me and you, I asked this
question if he was the act if he actually was
the one who killed Officer Tippett.

Speaker 15 (01:18:00):
No, that's almost certainly not true. There were many doubles
in Dallas during the weeks and months before the event,
and almost certainly one of the doubles was responsible for this.
And we have a pretty good idea who these characters were.
There were probably more than there was, probably more than one.

(01:18:22):
Carrie Thornley and William Seymour are often identified. So I
show a photograph of William Seymour in my book.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Was this all attached to the military industrial complex in
some form or fashion.

Speaker 15 (01:18:35):
Yeah, the military industrial intelligence complex. I would say these
people all knew each other. Their relationships were really ancient.
For example, Burris, Colonel Burris, was the military aide to LBJ.
Burris and LBJ had known each other for decades. Burris

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was a Texas oil man, so he knew all the
oilmen and he was in the military as well. So
Burris just knows all these people too, and he was
right next to LBJ regularly advising him on what to do.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
As you said early on, it's still about the money
in greed, right, is very important.

Speaker 15 (01:19:19):
Yeah. I discussed the money that Bell helicopter, for example,
made during the Vietnam War. It was many billions of dollars,
much more than they've made in relative dollars than any
year since. So money was a very big deal. And
of course the oilmen were extremely worried about the oil
depletion allowance. JK was threatening to take that away, but

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of course once he was shot, they kept it and
therefore made hundreds of billions of dollars over the succeeding years.
Money was a huge issue for them.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Right exactly, and as much as Vietnam as well.

Speaker 15 (01:19:54):
Vietnam was a big income earner for the war related corporations.
They made money hands over fifths.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Well, doctor Mantik, cannot thank you enough. I mean, this
is a great book. JFK was killed by consensus. Dealey
Plaza was just the final stop. As you write, doctor Mantick,
as I said, as a forensic radiologist, a physicist and
personally reviewed JFK's original autopsy x rays at the National
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Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
This is how chocolate to truly be well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
Don't you love it? Also, when the packaging says Christmas,
it says the Holidays, it says joy and all the festivities.
I mean, it's you know, it just adds to the decoration,
compliments to what's already there in the house in a
very special way, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:00):
It really does.

Speaker 28 (01:27:01):
It shines through and the snowflakes and the red and
the white and the silveriness to it.

Speaker 5 (01:27:05):
It really screams the Holidays.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
Yeah, I'm with you on it. How about some simple
dessert ideas that you can share with us today?

Speaker 7 (01:27:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 28 (01:27:12):
You know, when it comes to homemade recipes, I kind
of love adding small touches with every classic bite.

Speaker 5 (01:27:18):
So it gets a little bit more elevated.

Speaker 28 (01:27:20):
And one of the things I like to use is
president whipped crem to create festive pies or even hot cocoa.
Just a quick dollup adds a beautiful, creamy finish that
feels kind of restaurant worthy with no effort. So it's
made with an authentic Chantilly recipe and contains no corn
syrup so it has that fresh balance flavor and depending
on the vibe you're going for. You can use the
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Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
Vanilla for just the hint of sweetness.

Speaker 28 (01:27:44):
It's really an easy way to take drinks and desserts
to a whole different level ready for the holidays. And
you know, there's one thing I always remind people during
the holidays to do too. I always have to say this,
when milk feels like it's running out, you can have
this mini emergency, especially for cookies and baking proper. And
that's why I love keeping parmelt on hand. It's real milk,
just smarter, giving you that freedom to enjoy milk on

(01:28:07):
there on your schedule and avoid that last minute run
to the store. And because it's chef stable, you don't
have to refrigerate it until it's opened. Of course, it's
really a true pantry stable for me, like flour, sugar, salt,
parme lot, it's always there. So if you're pairing it
with cookies or baking holiday treats, parmel lot really helps
end those milk emergencies. And of course you can find
those in the baking isle of major retailers right well.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
That's a that's a great idea. I gotta tell you
that I'm really upset with you, George, because you told
me about the President's whip cream last time and I
become addicted. I'm going to therapy. They're going to have
an intervention. My family's gonna have an intervention with me
because that is so good.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
It is. And that's because it's real cream. Like it's
real whipped cream.

Speaker 28 (01:28:50):
I mean, that's what that's what you're having in and
it's this is this is the pleasures in life, and
now during the holidays, go ahead, enjoy it. This is
this is the time to really enjoy these pleasures.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
And I love what you say, this real whip cream.
It's funny because people that are not used to tasting
real whip cream, when they taste it, it like you
can see the look on their face like ooh, this
is interesting. And then as they enjoy it even more,
it's like, oh my goodness, it hooks you. So gotta
be careful.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 28 (01:29:18):
I went to culinary school for three years in France,
and I'm telling you, the French know their creams.

Speaker 5 (01:29:23):
This is fantastic whip cream.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Well tell you that's quite the endorsement. Ladies, and gentlemen,
let me tell you, you'll try it out and you'll
be hooked. I mean, my refrigerator is stocked up. I
gotta tell you for the holiday season. And sometimes it
talks to me. It says, hey, we're getting low here,
you know, so you got you gotta stock up again.
It's that good. What about some ways that we can
hit the reset button after the holiday rush because we

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need to decompress.

Speaker 5 (01:29:47):
Right, Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 28 (01:29:48):
You know, after weeks of cooking, hosting, juggling holiday plans,
it's really time to reclaim that piece with your closest
friends and family. And one of my favorite ways to
do that is by planning a little getaway.

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Using time shares. They offer a perfect opportunity to do so.

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Speaker 4 (01:30:35):
Wow. What a great idea. I'll tell you time sharing
is excellent and if you can participate it, you know,
participate in time sharing like this. This is wonderful because
it's not like you have to make a heavy commitment.

Speaker 28 (01:30:46):
Right yeah, you know again, one of the biggest problems
for me is like finding what is it that I
want for my kids and my family? For example, how
long where do I want a hot weather cold weather
skiing beach? This website go timesharing dot com is what
helps you guide you in finding.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
That right time sharing resort.

Speaker 28 (01:31:06):
So you need a tool to do that for you,
almost like a personal travel agent.

Speaker 4 (01:31:10):
Well exactly, Georgie. I got to tell you a little
personal story here, because what got me involved with time sharing.
I was one of these knucklehead type a you know,
let's cook it, let's just keep burning the oil man,
just keep running on the hamster wheel of life, NonStop.
And I think I found myself telling somebody like as
if I was so proud and arrogant about it that,
you know, because they were going on vacation. I go,
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(01:31:31):
and all of a sudden it stopped me and I go,
I am an idiot, you know. And of course I
had two young kids at the time, and I said,
this is it. I am going on vacation. I got
involved with the time sharing experience, and I'll tell you
it was. It was just so fantastic in terms of,
like you say, decompressing and finding the right place, whether
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mountains in San Bernardino with the snow. And yes, it
was frightful, but it was so much fun.

Speaker 5 (01:32:01):
Well, you know, it's really important.

Speaker 28 (01:32:02):
There's a lot of stress going on right now, making
sure everything is ready for the holidays. After the holidays,
it's really good to decompress and to find those moments.

Speaker 5 (01:32:10):
And I'm glad you have found them.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
Well. Chef George you Rans a multi lingual chef, a
comedian and host, author of Take This Dish and Twist It.
I love this. He's known for his foot Food Network
show Ham on the Street and host of TLC is
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dessert ideas and delights for the holiday that will make
you the hostess with the most of the chef.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
What do you say, Yeah, don't forget.

Speaker 28 (01:32:42):
You're a daily pepper and bark and I've made a
gorgeous trifle with it. A wonderful way to serve chocolate
for the holiday seasons. I mean, you have President Kram
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right place for you to relax and really kind of
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Speaker 4 (01:33:09):
Well, yeah, exactly, it's all important, chef, have a great Christmas,
a great holiday for you and the family. And again,
you're such a blessing to share all these great ideas.
I know people were taking notes, making a list, checking
it twice. No naughty. Everything's nice here on this list, right.

Speaker 5 (01:33:25):
Everything's nice. Stick with me.

Speaker 28 (01:33:27):
You can even check me out at Chef George Duran
on any social media websites and you'll see how nice
I am to You can even ask culinary questions.

Speaker 16 (01:33:34):
Bring it on.

Speaker 5 (01:33:34):
I'll answer anything you need to answer.

Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
Yeah, you got it all right, Chef, thanks a lot,
have a great one, Take.

Speaker 5 (01:33:39):
Care, Happy holidays, Bill, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
You got it well. I hope you had as much
fun as I did. Isn't he whot chefter? I hope
you got some great ideas, you know, for you know,
some holiday dessert idea. Wow, I'll tell you did He
kind of like get your you know, he had me
salivating here, But that's what he does. He teases us. Well,
stay right where you are. Coming up, we're going to
be talking with mini researches Billy Augustino. Incredible situation here.

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Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Hey, good morning, Welcome back Bill Martinez here along with
Bill di Augustino from MRC. Hey, Bill, how you doing
doing great?

Speaker 7 (01:39:23):
Good to see you, Bill Well.

Speaker 4 (01:39:25):
Bill is a research analyst for MRC's News Analysis Division,
and we had him here to talk about is it's
kind of amazing. I say it's amazing on one hand,
but I'm I'm really not surprised on the other, Bill,
and that is that only twenty four percent of likely
voters know that Charlie Kirk's killer was left wing.

Speaker 30 (01:39:46):
Yeah, you know, I want, I want to say that
I wasn't surprised, but I mean to be honest, I
think I'm a cynical guy, but that number was low
to me even I mean, I was shocked.

Speaker 7 (01:39:58):
The reason the reason I.

Speaker 31 (01:39:59):
Want to to pull this was because I kept seeing
all these instances of leftists not just seeming to kind
of get a sense that the guy who allegedly killed
Chrellie Kirk Kyler Robinson not just seeming to think that
he was right wing, but actually being like positive that
he was right wing, like deeply convinced and like insulting

(01:40:20):
people for saying that he's left wing. And so it
was so pervasive that I said, Okay, well, nobody else
is pulling this, we should probably take a look at it.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
And McLaughlin Associates worked with us on that.

Speaker 31 (01:40:30):
But yeah, I was not expecting only twenty four percent
of Americans to be able to correctly identify his ideology.
That is one of the most brutal condemnations of the
media's mishandling of a story.

Speaker 7 (01:40:42):
I think that a pole could ever bear out.

Speaker 4 (01:40:45):
Well exactly, and it says something also about the culture,
you know. And the thing is again regarding marketing. I've
been in marketing most of my life, and it's been
known that he who's there first wins. So when you
get you know, at the first bite of the apple,
and you put out this kind of poison into the media,
into the into the culture, it's amazing how that sticks.

(01:41:09):
And of course a lot of us remember, you know,
Jimmy Kimmel making a statement that was just so incredulous
he was even suspended, right, and and so you know,
of course what it turned out to be was just
basically a slap in the hands, so to speak.

Speaker 22 (01:41:25):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
But you know, this is just a gregious but it
just again, I think it's an indictment on the culture
and that the American people would be willing to re
embrace somebody would say something so outrageous, right, right.

Speaker 31 (01:41:41):
And I appreciate you, uh, I appreciate you bringing that up,
because I think a lot of people have kind of misremembered.
Maybe they didn't see the Jimmy Kimmel clip or what,
but a lot of people seem to misremember that as
Jimmy Kimmel got suspended for making a joke about Charlie
Kirk's death, and that is that is not what happened.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
There was no joke in there.

Speaker 31 (01:41:57):
There was no there was no punchline, no laugh line,
he said or implied strongly that Tyler Robinson was right wing.
He said that MAGA was doing everything that they could
to pretend that he was something other than one of us,
when of course he was somebody who shared a lot
more of Jimmy Kimmel's beliefs than either you or I Bill.
But yeah, I mean, the Charlie Kirk suspense or the

(01:42:21):
Jimmy Kimmel suspension was really I think a big role,
played a big role in a lot of people maybe
not hearing the full story about Tyler Robinson, because as
soon as that happened, the media suddenly had something to
pivot to, right, this was now a free speech story,
was a government censorship story. In fact, Jimmy Kimmel became

(01:42:42):
the true victim of Charlie Kirk's death, and Charlie Kirk
basically became a background character in his own story in
many media headlines that ensued from that whole debacle.

Speaker 4 (01:42:53):
Is that amazing? I mean, I mean here you, as
a student of the media, to see how this you know,
this card shuffling occurs and the media is out there
constantly looking for a victim and if they can get
any angle whatsoever to turn things on its head, eighty
twenty issues, ninety ten issues, it doesn't matter. But they

(01:43:14):
have consistently in the recent era have picked the minor
faction or fraction of the interest and elevated them and
turned it upside down.

Speaker 31 (01:43:26):
Right, And they do that out of loyalty to the
Democratic Party. Because is that minor fraction that you're discussing
is basically the most loyal, most active, most engaged Democratic voters, right.

Speaker 7 (01:43:36):
It is their radical base, it's their far left base.

Speaker 31 (01:43:40):
And so because they need to prop up the Democratic
Party in those news consumers' eyes, they basically are forced
to do cleanup work for the most radical among them, right,
the most dangerous among them, for example, the Tyler Robinson's
of the world. The message that this basically sends is
you can commit a political assassination, and if it's in

(01:44:01):
service of the right cause, the media.

Speaker 7 (01:44:02):
Will back you up on it.

Speaker 15 (01:44:03):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:44:04):
They will.

Speaker 31 (01:44:04):
They will spin, they will muddy the waters, and they'll
quickly move on from any discussion of you or your
ideology and pivot to some kind of related satellite issue,
right that this fawn from. So they'll keep it in
the news cycle, but they'll kind of hijack the news
cycle for their own purposes. And we've seen this again
and again and again. But again, the numbers, the numbers

(01:44:24):
are really what bear that out. Now, especially telling in
this poll was yes, twenty four percent, we're able to
identify that that Tyler Robinson was left wing. But actually
the most answered or the most common answer for the poll,
the plurality of respondents said they didn't know, they didn't

(01:44:45):
know Tyler Robinson's political views, and that was twenty seven percent,
And that I think is most illustrative of the media
basically tiptoeing past what Tyler Robinson's politics were. Right now,
if you think I don't remember the exact year, but
if you think back to when that that horrific Dylan
Roof shooting happened, yes, if you had pulled people around,

(01:45:07):
then what were Dylan Roof's politics? I'm pretty sure that
a lot more people would have gotten it right than
twenty four percent. And I think that the amount of
people saying I don't know would have been through the floor, right,
and certainly people saying he was left wing would have
been through the floor. Whereas today you have twenty two
percent of poll respondents saying that they think that that
Tyler Robinson was right wing.

Speaker 7 (01:45:27):
I mean, it's appalling. It is it's not just mishandling.
I shouldn't use that term.

Speaker 31 (01:45:32):
It is it is deliberate spin, right, it is without
a audacity on the part of the media.

Speaker 4 (01:45:37):
Well, and this is why the onus is on the
American people. You have to be discerning, You've got to
be aware of what's going on and what this is
indicative of. I mean, you can say you can blame
it on the media, I blame it on the people.

Speaker 16 (01:45:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:45:50):
You cannot. You cannot sit there in abject ignorance and
ideologically siloed perspectives and consider that you're dealing with the truth.
Because all this, when it all comes down to at
the end of the day, is are you dealing with
the truth or are you dealing with a lie? It

(01:46:10):
really is a binary choice, right, right.

Speaker 7 (01:46:13):
And truth is the most important ideal that you can
strive to uphold. Right.

Speaker 31 (01:46:17):
I mean, if you're not in compliance with truth, if
you're not, if you're not square with reality itself, then
anything that follows from that is very liably liable to
be dangerous, destructive, exactly, and completely nonsensical. And so yeah,
I mean, I think you're framing this perfectly. This poll
should be seen by anybody who's who's outraged at the
result as a call to action, right, I mean, this

(01:46:38):
is this is basically evidence of the amount of work
that needs to be done. Right, I mean, seventy six
percent of Americans are basically are basically the gap to
success in this case. Right, I mean, you're you're certainly
not going to convince all of them, but people need
to be made more aware of this story and just
more generally, when when the media take control of a
narrative like this completely completely poison it, spin it to

(01:47:01):
their own purposes, we need to be the ones kind
of doing the cleanup work there and filling in the
information where they refuse to provide it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:10):
Well, And this is why people have left in droves,
you know, with the mainstream media. Mainstream media you and
I talked about last time, right about the time you
were born, Bill, I mean, the mainstream media was commanded
by three networks and they commanded about eighty five percent
of viewing audience. Now it's less than fifty percent and
continuing on the decline. But it doesn't matter, you know,

(01:47:33):
And and we're saying you and I are are sounding
the clarion bell here to say America, you got to
wake up, because you know, the left continues to say, oh,
democracy is being threatened. Well, democracy is dying at the
hands of apathetic citizens.

Speaker 31 (01:47:51):
Right right, And the functioning of a of a democratic
process is threatened, like fatally, threatened fatally by the spread
of completely false narratives like this, right right, because the
whole the whole point of the democratic process is people
making informed decisions that comport with reality to to decide

(01:48:15):
there who will be governing them, right. I mean, it's
supposed to be self governance. And if you can't, if
you can't start from a base of actually factual information
or from the whole picture, then again, any any choice
that you make is going to be fundamentally flawed. And
that's I mean, that's that's basically the fundamental understanding that
the media have. That is why they do what they do, right,
It is why the corporate media are comprised of the

(01:48:37):
people that comprise it, because they are people who realize
that if you control the information, you can effectively control
the political process. And that's that's what they've been endeavoring
to do for as you said, as as long as
I've been alive, certainly, and and fortunately the grip is
slipping a bit, but there is as always so much
more work to be done on that front.

Speaker 4 (01:48:56):
Well, you know, and to me, it's really it's pretty
black and white. I mean, look at the heroes that
the media have have, you know, raised to heroic levels,
whether it's Tyler Robinson or what's his name in New
York who killed the Healthcareriona. Yeah, yeah, I mean and
and uh, you know, George Floyd, Trayvon Martin. These are

(01:49:20):
all modern day heroes that have been built up and
contrived by the mainstream media, thank you very much.

Speaker 31 (01:49:28):
Yeah, yeah, No heroes prises everything. I mean scandals, right,
We're we're in the middle of a of a wholesale
manufactured scandal right now with the Defense Secretary, right right.
I mean, they they can conjure things up from whole cloth.
But the only way that that works, it's kind of
like the power lies where people.

Speaker 7 (01:49:45):
Believe it lies.

Speaker 31 (01:49:46):
The only the only way that that works is is
because too many people still grant them credulity that they
have long since stopped deserving. And so I mean that's
That's kind of what we see our goal at the
at the Media Research Center, right, is exactly proving to
people that know, any any kind of benefit of the
doubt that you give these people, any kind of credulity
that you grant them, is going to be used against you.

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
Yeah. And meanwhile they'll ask us to step around the
billion dollar fraud coming out of Minneapolis.

Speaker 31 (01:50:15):
Right, that's right, that's right, that's right. A lot of
them are just denying it outright. They are utterly incurious
about the story because they know that it hurts their side, right,
it doesn't benefit them. Therefore, there is no reason to
cover it. There's no incentive. It's not about informing people,
it's about providing the correct narrative. This completely chatters a
narrative that they're trying to push there. They're trying to

(01:50:36):
push this open border's policy. Basically, everybody who can get
in or can arrive at the United States should be
allowed in and should stay here forever. They're just as
American as you or I, Bill. And so if you,
you know, if you bring up information like, for example,
rampant fraud in Minneapolis among the Somalians living there, then
that that kind of sticks a fork in that narrative.

Speaker 7 (01:50:56):
So they're just not going to talk about it.

Speaker 31 (01:50:58):
That's why, again, it's incumb on us discuss it as
we are right now.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
Exactly Well, certainly the evidence is overwhelming, and you know
it's not like you have to do a deep down research.
I mean, just look at on the surface the things
that you and I've talked about. It's quite clear what
the mainstream media has done. It's abandoned its position of
authority as to find in the US Constitution to serve
the American people and to serve this government that is

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a government of for and buy we the people. Bill
the Augustina Research analyst for MRC's News Analysis Division, Bill,
As always, we appreciate the time and insight. Take care
be well, my.

Speaker 7 (01:51:35):
Friend, absolutely, thanks so much. Good to see it.

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