The Bill Martinez Show 12 22 25

The Bill Martinez Show 12 22 25

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
Yeah, Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (00:03):
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our values, our politics, and our future.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
And now Bill Martinez.

Speaker 5 (00:15):
Hey, right now six minutes after the top of me.
Are Bill Martinez here? And yes, Jonathan Cohn, the one
and only, joins us now to talk about his brand
new book. Jonathan as always welcome to show. Good to
have you with us.

Speaker 6 (00:29):
Oh, great to be with you.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Always enjoy Well, I'm so excited to talk about this
new book, Avatar, which is going to be released very
soon and soon again right, yes.

Speaker 6 (00:42):
Very soon. This is this is the newest book bill
that it is. It is probably the most explosive book
I've ever written. I mean I've written explosive books, but
this one, the Avatar, is going to really remove the
veil behind what is happening in our world, what's happening
on political stage, what's happening with what's happening spiritually, what's

(01:03):
happening with the future. It's ancient mysteries happening unfolding right
now and really giving exact revelation of where we are,
where we're going from the Bible. It's amazing things. And
you know, I did the return of the gods, and
this is going to do another level where we get
into the realm of avatars. I know we're going to

(01:23):
open it all up, but we don't even know what's
going to happen when this thing comes out, because because
it is that explosive.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Well and uh, and I'm glad you mentioned the return
of the gods, because that was going to be one
of my questions. Is this the next step, you know,
from the return of the gods?

Speaker 6 (01:39):
Yeah, in some in some ways because because it's going
to another level, because the you know, with the return
of the gods. For those who don't know the myst
the basically the principle is that that if a nation
or civilization that has been cleansed or exercised of paganism
or these spirits, these gods, which the gods did in

(02:00):
Western civilization, it basically cleansed that out. If it should
ever turn away from God, if ever turn away from
the Gospel empty itself, then what was cast out of
it is going to come back into it. The actual
ancient entities or spirits or gods are going to come back.
And that is what we are witnessing in America. What
we've been witnessing for the really progressively for the last

(02:22):
number of decades. But now it's going to another level.
That it's you know, when you have God, when you
have the pagan gods, you have avatars in the in
the pagan world, that is, you have vessels or people
or leaders who are actually used as instruments of these forces.
And that's where it's going to get really explosive. But yeah,
so it's going to another level affecting our government, really

(02:43):
determining every election in the last few presidential elections as
well well.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Exactly, and as you say, when the gods come back
seven times worse is what the Bible tells us.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Jonathan, Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, you know, it's
a dangerous thing for any quote Christian or deo Christian
based culture or civilization to turn away from God. Look
what happened when Russia did it. Look what happened when
Germany did it. And now we're now we've been watching
it happen all around us. So yes, it is exactly that.
It's you know, it's it's worse than a pagan or

(03:15):
pre Christian civilization, is a post Christian civilization because pre
Christian you know, you might have a Nero, but post
Christian you have a Hitler.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, exactly. Well, let's get into it. Avatar. What is
the avatar going to reveal?

Speaker 6 (03:29):
Well, it's gonna reveal those things. This is gonna this
is again, it's gonna be I believe mind blowing that
it's gonna be taking away the veil you're gonna see.
I mean, behind the people on our national stage are
ancient mysteries playing out. I mean, even behind the assassination
attempt on Trump, there's an ancient mystery to an ancient priesthood.
There's there is so much and again it's gonna be explosive.

(03:52):
Could there actually right now be on the on the
American national stage, political stage? Could there be one who
is in effect an avatar of an angel god. It's
gonna say it sounds crazy, it sounds wild, but it's
actually true.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Well exactly. Well, in the avatar you share something you
never before have written about your encounters with the gods
or spirits. So what happened to you in India when
you sounded the biblical trump at the show Fear?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Yeah? Well, I was in I was in in front
of like thousands and thousands of people at night Indian
people and robes, and uh, they'd never heard the gospel,
as most of them and I I'm going to share
the gospel to them, but I decided to first sound
the show far, the biblical trumpet, and you know, and
there and the thing is I did and something came back.

(04:38):
We couldn't even make sense of it. It was like a
wave came back. And I could if you can imagine
uh being at an exorcism, except multiply it by masses,
a mass exorcism. It was as if spirits were just fleeing.
And the thing is that that I you know, when
I looked later, I'm reading and you're in the Bible
it says when you sound the so far in the
midst of war, the enemy is going to be defeated.

(04:59):
And it's actually been an ancient tradition that or belief
that when the show far sounded, you know, the enemy
flees or actually they used it in exorcisms. But the
people in India, they're not reading the Bible and they're
not reading a Jewish encylopedia. So yet it happened, you know.
And after it happened, I was able to give the
gospel and pray and about seventy thousand people received the Lord,

(05:20):
you know, from that happening. So this is the beginning
of what the Bible speaks about, says behind the gods.
You know, Israel, I'm sorry, India is a land of
millions of gods. So you're going The Bible says behind
the gods are spirits entities. So that's really part of
that mystery. These things are real.

Speaker 5 (05:36):
So what did you think? I mean, you blowed the
chauffeur and all of a sudden you sense this reverse
waves so to speak. It wasn't a settling of the
Holy Spirit with flames of tongue on people's head. I mean,
you sense this movement, this spiritual movement out of where
you're at. What did what did you think when that happened?

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Well, when that first happened, we could even make sense
of it. It was too like overwhelmed. Yeah, I realized it
was like blood curdling screams, like someone people like again
of someone being being exercise of a spirit. But it
was masses of people, I mean, you know, and again
they didn't why did they had no idea about the show?
Far in the Bible, you know, So these things are real.

(06:17):
And I saw it in other lands as well, wherever
they were worshiping gods, there are spirits, there are these things,
and this is ultimate mystery is ultimately going to come
to America and what we are dealing with right now.
But I saw it all over the world. I saw
it in India, Cuba, Brazil, Nigeria, all over the same phenomenon.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Well, you mentioned Cuba, So what happened on the mountaintop
there in Cuba?

Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yeah, I was invited to go to Cuba. Fidel Castro
opened the island for one month for the Gospels. They
asked me to come and sound the sho Far minister
across the island. And I'm in one city and the
city is a gigantic a mountain. On top of the
mountain is they're worshiping gods. They have a house of idols,
and they have sacrifices and and they're telling me there's
it's like curse stuff there. So I said, Okay, I

(07:01):
guess we're going up there. I go up there with
a so far and I say, there's a man in
front of the of the pavilion of the House of
the gods, and he sees me and he starts speaking
to me. And I don't know the guy, but he
comes over to me and he says, I've been waiting
for you. And he says, and he's holding in his
hand a ceramic plate that has a painting of me
on it, blowing the show far. And the thing is

(07:24):
he was a Christian. He said, God told him to
paint that, paint that image, put it in the house
of the idols. And that night something happened. The strap
broke apart, and the plate comes down and strikes the
head of the idol of the Chief God of Cuba,
a goddess named O'shun. And and the next morning the
worshipers open up the pavilion. They find their Chief God

(07:45):
on the floor with a crown removed, and next to
it is this image of this guy, the Jewish guy
with a so far, and the so far was chipped.
It's struck just where that sound comes out, struck the
head of the isdle. You know in the Bible talks
about Dagan. Say, oh, that's just a legend. No, it's not.
God is real. And the thing is that that the
word came down to the city and people started going

(08:06):
to the churches, bringing their idols and saying, smash our idols.
We heard what happened on the mountaintop and revival broke
out again the gods. This is a real thing, and
it's interesting again you have the trumpet, the so.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Far yes, right, without a doubt. We'll get about fifty
seconds in this segment here left the t r OTG principle. Well,
well that is we'll probably just introduce it and then
we'll go to break, and then we'll come back and
unwrap it even more.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, well, this is everything we just said is gonna
be gonna it's gonna have to do with America because
if remember, if you drive God out, the gods are
coming in or the spears are coming in, and that
is actually gonna be. This is actually gonna be determining
what is happening right now, what's happened to our culture,
what happened with the elections? Everything. We're going to open
up a lot of ancient mysteries. That's what I reveal

(08:53):
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And we're back with you Bill Martinez here along with
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again with his next book coming out that we can't
wait to get our hands on, titled The Avatar. We
were talking about, you know, what's happening, all these things
that are affecting America. You know, you and I've talked

(13:56):
before how Israel is the center and the focus. I've
often said that Israel is the hour hand of God's
prophetic clock, and what's passing our minutes and seconds. But
somewhere within the minutes and seconds in the current calendar
is America. Jonathan.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Yeah, Actually America was patterned after ancient Israel. I remember,
you know the West, which America is the inheritor of that.
This is Western civilization is really the only civilization that
was actually exercise of the Gods. The Gospel came in
and drove out all these things. But the warning is
that if we ever turn away from God, they're coming back,
and we empty the house. House isn't staying empty. You know,

(14:37):
look what we did, you know, we empty the schools.
We said, we take prayer out, take take the Bible out,
we empty that out. Well look at what has come
into the schools, you know. So this is a principle.
And the thing is that you know, when when for instance,
remember the Olympics that just happened, right, and there was
this blasphemous thing they had this Last Supper and then
the Last Supper, what happened instead of they replaced Jesus

(15:01):
with a with an ancient pagan god exactly what we're
talking about. The ancient god was the god Dionysus, and
it's really a symbol of what's been happening in our culture.
So they have this guy as this god. Well, you know,
there was a guy named Frederic Nietzsche who was a
German philosopher, and he actually did the same thing. He
drove out god. He said, we got to get rid

(15:21):
of Jesus. In the nineteenth century, he wrote these he
wrote these books, you got to get rid of them,
and he actually lifted up the god Dionysus. Same one
of the Olympics. He says, we and he actually was
almost a worshipper of this, and I think you know,
Dionysus drove his worshippers insane. Mad Well, Nietzsche strangely goes
insane and he starts signing his name as Dionysus, as
if he was taken over by the spirit. And the

(15:43):
thing is, his writings went on, and you know who
picked it up. Adolf Hitler picked up Nietzsche's writings, and
so did the Nazis. He became the philosopher of the
Nazi movement. So look what happens when you take out God,
as we were saying, you take out God and you
take out Jesus. Well, what's gonna come is danis look
what And that's where we are. So that is a
little real symbol of what we saw with the Olympics.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, vacuum cannot exist. Yes, you know, if something is
gonna something is going to fill that God's space, right.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
And it's gonna be Gods, it's gonna be it's gonna
be darkness.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Right, Because the thing is, it comes in as a counterfeit.
And this is what fools people, right, it's it's the illegitimate.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Yeah, it's you know in Hebrew the word for God
is eloheim, but the elohem also is used to speak
of the false gods. It also can mean the gods.
So it's either one aloheem or the other. Either God,
you know God. I don't care. If it's communism, I
don't care if it's secularism. It doesn't matter that if
you don't have God. The gods are coming in.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Well. In the book the Avatar, uh, when when? When
is the actual publishing date of the Avatars?

Speaker 6 (16:47):
So we can Levatar is coming out. The actual date
is September second before that. People can you I mean,
you can order it now and you'll probably get it early.
And it looks like this. This is a mock up,
but it looks like this. If you can see it this,
it's it look like. So if you go if you
go online or you go on Amazon or anywhere right now,
you'll see that and you can actually pre order it.
They do send it early, right, excellent.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Well, in in the Avatar, you talk about and we
touched a little bit on it on the ancient template
that reveals what is now happening to America.

Speaker 6 (17:17):
Yeah, well, it's amazing thing. One of these mysteries is
that when Israel was falling away from God. The k
there were kings and queens who led this apostasy. Well,
the amazing thing is that there are American leaders who
behind the actually most of the most of the major
American leaders in the last half last quarter century actually
have prototypes with these ancient leaders. I won't go through

(17:39):
it because we don't have time, but it's amazing. Behind
virtually each of these leaders there's an ancient prototype. And
what happens is it's basically when you read about the
House of Ahab. You know, Ahab was leading the nation
away from God, and it looked that it was going
to be it was going to be sealed away from
God and it was going to go to judgment. But
then God had a surprise, and that is the the

(18:00):
man named Jay Who. And Jay Who is the mystery
or the prototype behind Donald Trump. Jay Who was wild,
He was unpredictable. He was not a politician. He was
a fighter. He he it's amazing. He actually, you know,
remember when Trump began his campaign, from the very beginning,
He's a Trump Tower. He comes down that staircase, he

(18:21):
descends that staircase, dramatic launches, the launches, the race well,
you know what, Jay who began on top of a
staircase and comes down and begins a race to the throne.
And actually Jay who makes an alliance with the religious
conservatives of the land, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to drain the swamp, So did Trump. Jay who comes
to power by coming face to face with the nation's

(18:43):
former first lady. So did Trump. And so it's it's
amazing everything. And it's not just the first coming of Trump.
But what's happening right now, this mystery is even more
more so. Right now it's like Jayhu on steroids. You know,
Jay who, in order think about it, in order to
come to power, he first came against the sitting king,
and then he came against a woman who had an

(19:05):
anti biblical agenda. So look what happened in twenty sixteen.
First he came against Obama, but then he came against
a woman with an umbiblical agenda, which was Hillary Clinton.
But then in twenty twenty four, the template of Jay
who replays. He first comes against the sitting king Joe
Biden slays him at that debate, and then he comes

(19:27):
against a woman with an anti biblical agenda, which this
case is Kamala Harris. So that's what so he wins.
You know, interesting because in twenty twenty, that wasn't the template.
He was in power, he was the king, so he
didn't prevail. But in twenty sixteen or twenty twenty four,
that's why he won. So even the mystery of our
elections is part of this biblical paradigm.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
And the people may have freaked out when Donald Trump
wasn't reelected in twenty twenty, but God is sovereign. He
had a plan, has a plan that is cantinuing to
be revealed to us, and it's almost and I've been
sharing this with our audience, Jonathan, that Trump is an
apocalyptic figure inasmuch as that he's pulling back the shroud.

(20:11):
His administration is pulling back to shroud and all these
hidden secrets. I mean, we just found a burn bag
at the FBI that had information that is critical that
we need to know right now that God says, you
know what, you're ready for the truth.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
Yeah, yeah, you know what? You know, you know what, Bill,
It's amazing because what did when Jayhu came to power.
You know what he did? He purged the government. Yeah,
it's exactly what Trump is doing. He purged the House
of Ahau, he dismantled the temples of Bail. So Trump
is dismantling, he's purging. He's and it's not that. Listen,

(20:45):
we don't know where Jay was, not with God. We
just know he was a vessel of God, you know,
So we don't know what Trump, but he's a vessel.
He's being used. So you're absolutely right, and it's all
part of the mystery, you know. You know one thing,
the Bible actually speaks about the sword of Jehu. You
know what happened on Trump's and oger he went at
an augural ball. They hand him a gift, They hand
him a sword, and he takes it up and starts

(21:05):
waving it and dancing with it. Who does that? You know?
Jay did it and Trump did it. So we're actually
watching it's amazing. It's unfolding now, this mystery more than
ever where we are and where we're going.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
You wonder if Trump really understands how God is using
him and all this symbology. Jonathan, and you had a
chance to talk with him about some of this.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
It's interesting that you said that I was led, you know,
eight days before the election, I was called to speak
at an event where Trump was coming, and Trump was there.
I mean, Trump was there, and I spoke the word
to like like out to everybody, but it was to him.
It went viral on the web, and so it gave
a little taste of that. But it's interesting that you
say it, Bill, because I actually feel that I'm strongly

(21:48):
supposed to do exactly what you just said, because I
believe that God's not finished. He has something even higher
with Donald Trump. Pray that God makes the opening. There
are people trying to do it. So thank you exactly,
and let me throw something in for you just quickly,
and that is that, you know, here's when how long
has Donald Trump been on the political stage. Well, people
would say, well, twenty sixteen. No, the first time he

(22:09):
was a candidate. People don't know this first time he
was a candidate for president was actually two thousand. He
ran on the Reform Party was it was called Trump
two thousand. He actually won primaries, he won California. And
now the thing is that if you take that span,
when will his last full year be, it will be
the year twenty eight to twenty twenty eight, and it's
twenty eight years from two thousand. Well, in the Bible

(22:30):
it says that Jay, who was on the national stage
for twenty eight years.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Wow, I love this. I mean and time and time again.
This is what you bring, you know, to our audience,
is you bring a depth and understanding of God's faithfulness.
And the thing is about God. God tells you in advance,
was what other God does that? Jonathan right?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
You know? You know, yeah, he knows the end from
the beginning, and he reveals to his people. You know,
when people were asking me before Trump decided to run again,
saying do you think it's gonna do? I said, well,
the template in the Bible would say yes, and he
did exactly.

Speaker 5 (23:09):
Well, we're going to go to quick break. Stay with
us because we've got more from Jonathan conn as we
talk about his new book. He is here, the number
one New York Times bestselling author Jonathan Cohn the new
book Avatar right after this Stay with us.

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And we're back with the America. Gilmore King is here
along with the best selling author Jonathan Kahn. We're talking
about his brand you book The Avatar. You talked about
presidents and the most recent ones. Let's talk about Joe
Biden and his involvement here.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
Yeah, Joe Biden. The mystery of Joe Biden. I reveal
this in the Avatar, that there's there's an ancient king
in the Bible part of this template I'm talking about,
and that is the king called Jehoram. Now, Johoram was weak.
Jehoram had known other ways of God, but turned against them,
so did Biden. Jehoram's at the beginning of his reign
suffers a disastrous military withdrawal that kind of darkens his

(27:37):
whole reign, so did Biden. It was it was it
was Afghanistan that has changed everything during Listen to this.
During Jehoram's reign, there's there are border incursions. Foreign people
are coming into crossing the borders, well, Joe Biden. Also
during the reign of Jehoram, the land of Israel is attacked,
invaded by Arabians and Philistines. Well, the Arabians, that's another

(28:01):
word of saying Arab and Philistine. Today the people call
the Palestinians. What that name means literally means Philistine. The
Arabic word for Palastinian is Philistini. So there's an invasion.
So with Biden, the American Jehoram Biden, it comes in
and the ancient invasion started from Gaza, the Gaza Strip,
and they came into Israel and they took hostages back

(28:23):
to Gaza. That happened in the reign of the one
who's the prototype of Biden. Also, towards the end of
his reign, the Jahoram gets beset by physical infirmities, and
so did Biden. He becomes enfeebled, so did Biden. And
the thing is that by the end of his reign, Biden, sorry,
Jehoram had one son left, his youngest son named Azaiah.

(28:46):
At the end of Biden's reign, he had one son left.
His name was Hunter. Now, both of them didn't serve
the Lord. But a Haziah, listen to This comes from
a root word in Hebrew, which is ahaz which means
to seize. Well, in Old German, the word to seize
is henton, which is connected to the name hunter. So,

(29:07):
I mean, you can't make this up. It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
Wow, that that is amazing. So what did we already
talked about? Jehu? But but Alato, let's go ahead and
talk about the Avatar opening the mystery of the god kings.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's called the obtever reason. You see wherever
you have. When you have these gods in pagan culture, cultures,
in ancient culture, you have avatars. That is the belief
that the gods can appear as people, or they can
you know, people can be their instruments or vessels. And
usually it's the ruler because you know, if you look
at the Pharaohs, they were they were believed to be

(29:43):
living gods, you know. And so in the kings of Babylon,
kings of Asia, it's all over and you see in
the in the spiritual realm, if the spirits can rule
over the king, they can rule the nation. And so
America is at the point where we've we've let these
things in. Now it's to the point where these spirits
or these entities or gods, they're not content being coexisting.

(30:04):
They want dominion. And so if they can get the
government or get a leader, you've got the nation. So
could there actually be an avatar in America? Now? Listen
here they're in that in Hinduism, which is basically, you know,
the the remnant of what was pagan would be called
pagan religion, and you have millions of gods, but they
believe that the House of Brahmen, this this Brahman house

(30:26):
of people. That that's particularly the house where avatars are born. Well,
there was someone born of the house of Brahman whose
name was Kamala Harris. Born of them, she was given
the name Kamala. Kamala. She was named after a goddess.
It's the goddess Kamala. And not only her middle name

(30:47):
is deb Debi, what does it mean the goddess. So
her name means Kamala of the goddess. And actually Hindu
writings they gave praise to Kamala the goddess. Okay, but
not only that, but her whole life is going to
play out according to the mystery of this goddess, the goddess.
According to the mythology Kamala, she begins by her rise,

(31:08):
born and rises by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris was
born by the ocean, and she rises on San Francisco's
in the ocean by the ocean. Well. Also, the goddess
it becomes the number two ruler in the cosmos of
the Hindu cosmos, the vice the vice god because she's

(31:29):
married to the king god, which is Vishnu. And actually,
and so you have Kamala Harris as the number two
to the president of the land, and the president was
called Sleepy Joe. Sleepy Joe Vishnu is called the sleeping God.
Okay literally, And now that you know how it's kind
of a strange. Listen, it's not about Kamala Harris. We've
got to pray for everybody. They don't know what they're doing.

(31:49):
But Kamala Harris. Uh, you know. The strange thing is
that she was always laughing, they said, laughing Kamala at
the wrong times. Yes, well, well, in Hinduism there is
there is the belief there is the laughing goddess called
called the Debi, which is Kamala's middle name, so literally,
and that goddess would laugh while she brought destruction or
she'd wore she'd being destruction. So you have the laughing goddess.

(32:10):
But now let me there's so much, but let me
even take it even deeper. There's a day on the
Hindu calendar where it's it's all in honor of Kamala
the goddess. Okay, it's called it's called Sharad Pernuma or Pima.
And so the thing is Kamala Harris was born in
nineteen sixty four she was born on October twentieth. She
was born on sharad Pernima, the day of the Goddess Kamala.

(32:33):
So literally, she's born on that day. Not only that
bill but she but at night. There's a night that
is called that is called uh Koja. You don't have
to remember this, but Kojagara Pooja, which is called the
night they believe that the goddess Kamala enters the world
under the moonlight the full moon, and they open their
houses to receive her. Well, Kamala Harris was born at

(32:54):
night on that night Kojagara Pooja, under the moon, under
the full moon. She was born on the she entered
the world on the night that the goddess is said
to enter the world. And let me give you one
more thing, the Goddess Kama that that there's one day
where they celebrated as the birthday of the goddess Coma
and they tell the story of how she was born
by the by the ocean. Well, Kamala Harris, the woman

(33:18):
Kamala was born on the birth the day of the
birth of the Goddess Kamala, and so on, as she's
born all around the world, they're chanting the name of Kamala,
the goddess all over the world. As Kamala comes into.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
The world, Johnathan, here we were before this, we were
concerned about the Jezebel spirit represented in one Hillary Clinton.
Now we have the rise of Kamala Harris.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
Wow, well it's and you know what, and I don't
know what we'll have time for, But that's even linked
to the mystery as well, because because Jezebel was linked
to the gods, by the way, and Jezebel also had
a daughter. People don't realize this, whose name was Atalia.
And I in the Atari, open this up. But this
is also what happens to Atalia is also the pro
the flesh and blood prototype of Kamala Harris. And I

(34:09):
mean it's amazing. I mean, I mean it's amazing. Even
the way she was defeated is all part of the
template of Atalia. It's all there. But all these people
are linked to the gods, you know, and so Kamala Harris.
And here's another thing built that. You know, in ancient times,
they would make pictures images of the kings and queens,
merging them to the gods they represented. So in Egypt,

(34:32):
hieroglyphics and all that. Well. An image appears on the
Internet about thirty days before Kamala Harris Wind goes to
the White House's Vice President. It's put up by her
own family and it merges her with a with a
with a goddess. I mean, it makes her as a
Hindu goddess. I mean crazy. But you know, and you
want to put this put kind of bring it home.
There's so much to it, but to bring it home

(34:52):
as this America was founded to be one nation under God,
under the rule of God. If she had won, literally,
he would be under the rule of one called the Goddess,
whose name means the goddess, which is a sign of
a nation that was you put away God, this is
what you get. It would have sealed our future. But
God had the surprise and he gave us grace and

(35:14):
gave us the last chance. Yeah, that's just going to ask,
you know, why did God save us? Because I believe
because of the prayers of his people. I believe because
the remnants as if my people and you know prayed.
I was gathering Bill you know in Washington there were
you know, tens of thousands of believers and we were
praying and praying and praying thirty days before the election,
and others were praying. Everybody was, you know, we were praying.

(35:36):
God heard our prayers, and He's merciful. He's given us
a chance. This is a window. But this even links
up to there. There's even a deeper mystery to Donald Trump.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
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Speaker 6 (35:45):
We may be able to get it at the end,
which is part of where we are right now, right exactly.
I mean you talk about a spiritual battle. I mean you,
in a sense are the watchmen on the wall that
is revealing all this and saying, hey, this is coming.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Well, it's not even coming.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
It's here, right, It is here, and we are in it.
It is real. I listen. One of the things I
want to show in the Avatar and in the books
is that this is real. I mean, this is not
this is not a feeling. This is real. You can
see the exact dates. You can see that this is real,
real people, real thing, real future. We are in a
war and we have been given a chance. And this
is the moment He told me about what where's this going?

(36:22):
Where where was the headache? And what do we need
to know? What does God want? You know? It says
in the Bible the sons of Isigard knew the times,
and what is reel shall do? Where to be like
the children of Isiguard. We are to know the times?
And then what do we need to do? Because this
is a momentous time and this is a critical time
can go either way, and we need to rise to it.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Well. Bible says Jesus wept. He wept over Jerusalem because
they missed their appointed time right.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
And we cannot miss our appointed time.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Got to go to break. We've got more from the
one and only Jonathan Kahn. Stay with us, slaves and gentlemen.

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Speaker 5 (40:59):
Glad you could join this and stay with us. You know.
I always tell Jonathan whenever I talk to him as
he reveals these things, it's just so mind blowing. I
tell him, I go, you chicken skin me, you know,
you just give me goosebumps and hold the other end
for the longest time. He didn't quite. He just kind
of laughed and went along with me. He goes, well,
you know, crazy Mexican's coming up with something. I don't
know where it is, but you know, I'll just play
with him.

Speaker 6 (41:19):
And that wasn't it.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
I was probably about five six years later, you know,
because I said, oh, you goosebump me and everything, and
and I go, you know, like chicken skin. You know, okay,
but you know here he's done it to all of us, right,
we can all tell Jonathan he's chicken chicken skin, the
whole bunch of us. And we're talking about his new book,
The Avatar from the number one New York Times best
selling author Jonathan Kahn, an explosive new book that's going

(41:42):
to change the way you see the world. Jonathan Uh,
let's uh, let's talk about Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (41:49):
Okay, yeah, let's take it to another level. I mean,
there's an even deeper mystery. You know, when when Jay
who began his rise to the throne, they sounded they
proclaimed him king, and they sounded trump It so here
trumpets were linked to Jah. So you got a guy.
You have a man named Trump, which in English means trumpet.
And the thing is that, what's a trumpet? You know,

(42:10):
a trumpet is a vessel of God. It's a vessel
in the Bible. It's the vessel I memory spoke. We
started speaking about the trumpet in the nations. The trumpet sounded,
you know, to.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Get your attention right. You got to get your attention right.

Speaker 6 (42:21):
Yes, exactly, and Trump gets your attention. And a trump
and trumpet is jarring. It interrupts everything, and so is Trump.
But it's in the Bible. It was a vessel of
the power of God and an amazing thing. You know.
We spoke about how the mystery of Kamala Harris she's born.
She was born on a Pagan holy day holiday when
all these people are worshiping this goddess. Well, Donald Trump

(42:43):
was born on a Friday, which is the Sabbath, which
is a biblical holiday holiday, and all of the world
people are worshiping God. And the thing is on the Sabbath,
there is always an appointed scripture, a word from the
Word of God that is appointed for that particular day.
And that was us in by Donald Trump. So when
he was born, what was the scripture? The scripture is

(43:05):
God telling Israel to bring forth a vessel. It's about
bringing a vessel into the world, an instrument into the world.
What instrument the trumpet? Literally, he's born, Trump is born.
He Trump comes into the world while God the scripture
is bringing the trump into the world. Okay, and so
Trump's life is all about that. And so think about

(43:27):
this bill and that election. You have on one hand
a guy whose name is Trump or Trumpet, and you
have a woman's whose name is DeBie or Kamala Debbie,
which means goddess. And I told you in the beginning.
You know, when the trumpet sounds, the tradition is the
spirits or the gods have to flee. So you've got
this election. You want to you want to pull away
the val and see, really what we were dealing with
spiritually a trumpet and in both our vessels, a trumpet's

(43:49):
a vessel and also an avatar is a vessel. So
you got the two there. And so when the trumpet sounds,
the goddess or the avatar is blown away, and that's
exactly what happened. And this is linked to where we
are right now. And in fact, you know, in fact,
you know what I said, like what I said when
I sounded the trumpet in India, that we have this

(44:10):
like a mass exorcism in Cuba. It was the image
of a trumpet that that took away the crown of
the goddess. So now we see this again. Well, the
thing is not only that there's a mystery behind we all.
We all remember when Trump was almost assassinated. You talk
about spiritual warfare. I mean, there was warfare over this.
You know, he was almost killed twice, I mean, and

(44:30):
this time was in Butler, Pennsylvania. But but the thing
is that that that I want to bring it to
where we are and what this is all about. Trump
was you know, or let me say, jaehu Jah was
the only king of the Northern Kingdom, who the Bible records,
was actually anointed. He was anointed with oil by a prophet. Well,
the first anointing in the biggest annointing in the Bible

(44:52):
is the anointing of the priests. And they had a
big ceremony and they were anointed to be able to
serve God as his ministers. And in order to be anointed,
it wasn't just oil, it was they had to be
touched with blood. And so the blood had to touch
the ear of the priest. The one big annoying. The
blood touched the touch. The blood had to touch the
right ear. It touched the right ear of Trump. It

(45:15):
had to touch the tip of the right ear. It
touches the tip of the right ear. And then the
blood is to touch the hand. First thing that Donald
Trump do does is he reaches his hand touches the blood.
That the blood had to touch the right hand, it's
his right hand. It had to touch the thumb. The
first thing that comes up is his right thumb. And
now the blood was to touch the feet. Now we

(45:35):
can't say because the cameras didn't catch it. But in
order for the blood to touch the feet, his shoes
had to be removed. What happens is Donald Trump's shoes
are removed. They push him down where the blood went,
and he literally is there without shoes. He calls for
his shoes. The priest in the anointing had to have
his shoes removed and minister without his shoes. But not

(45:55):
only that, Bill, Notice when this happened. Notice what happened
in the annoint the priest. You have a man who's
a candidate for the office of the priesthood. So here
we have the candidate for the office of the presidency.
And the thing is, it was a seventh day ceremony.
On the seventh day, it is sealed. The priest is anointed. Okay. Now, now, Bill,

(46:19):
if you count on the Hebrew reckoning of time, every
day ends and begins at sunset. So you have the
day that it all happened, the assassination attempt, the blood
touches him, then comes that's the first day. Then comes
sundown to sundown, second day. Keep counting, and you when
is the seventh day. The seventh day was Thursday night,

(46:41):
and that night is the night that Donald Trump received
the nomination to become president. So the anointing was complete
on the seventh day. I mean, so what it's saying
is there is actually a purpose. And did you notice
Bill that after that event, Trump kept talking about God, saying,
there's a reason, I'm actually there's a calling. I'm actually
called to do God's will. Well there is the priest

(47:02):
is actually supposed to bring the nation to God. Well
we've got to pray that that so that that's going
to go into a mystery. Call that where we are
now called the Black Obelisk. If you want, I can
just do a quick yes, We've got five and a
half minutes. You got it, You got it. There's no
object on planet Earth that has an image of somebody
from the Bible that was actually made when they were alive,

(47:22):
except one, the Black Obelisk. And the Black Obelisk has
an image of somebody from the Bible. One that person
was love you know what? You know who was Jay Who?
And the image is a jay Who bowing down on
his knees. And that image never matched something until when
Donald Trump was pushed down on that stage. He was

(47:42):
pushed down and they took a picture He's on his
knees and that matches the ancient image of Jayhu from
two and a half thousand years ago, and so here
is a message to America. The only way that America
is going to be great again is if America comes
to its knees, including Donald Trump, including all of us.
The only thing that can save America is revival. You know,

(48:03):
you know, if we if we change the government but
we don't change the people, the unchanged people are going
to change the government back and those gods are going
to return. We've been watching a massive rolling out back
of the gods. Actually that's the agenda that Donald Trump
is rolling back. But we need to replace that with
the presence of God. We have a window that God
has given us, and the window is for revival. If

(48:24):
we don't see revival, we're gone. The only thing you
can say, but if we see revival, God can do
something beyond what anything we imagine. That's the point of
Jehu Jayhu was the last chance given before. It's either
judgment or revival, and we have to go full blast
as never before. This is what the Avatar. Why I
believe the Lord wrote me leving to write the Avatar
not only to reveal these mysteries and we just touched

(48:46):
on them. There's so much more. But the ultimate point
is that we are in a window of time. It's crucial.
We got to pray as never before for revival. We
got to actually not just pray, We got to live
in revival, choose revival, work for revival as never before,
because that's the only thing that can save America. We
were born for such a time as this. This is
the moment.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
Well, Jonathan, we have to embrace the pain. And you know,
if we embrace the pain and really realize how bad
it is and how worse it could have been, then
you're drawn to God. The spirit will bring you to God.
So then you see the legitimate versus the illegitimate, and

(49:25):
that will cause repentance. Like everything you read in the
Old Testament, it starts with repentance. And yes, you get
to revival, but you can't get to revival until you
realize how how we failed God.

Speaker 6 (49:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, it's the conviction of sin.
If my people will turn from variable ways, not just
the world, we need to repent. That's when revival comes,
you know, That's when blessing comes. You know. So this
this is our hour. You know, this is what Jay
Who's about? This is what the Trumpet's all about. This
is what the moment's all about, and we are this
is critical, this is major, This is momentous, This is biblical.

(50:01):
But we got to rise to it and be that people.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
You know, as you ever before, you're calling out and
people need to hear this. My people, Okay, there are
sanctified designated people that God has set aside. Right. You know,
we talked a little bit earlier about the remnant, and
so the call is to God's people first, right, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
The repentance begins with us, it says in my people.
Then you know it's gonna begin with us, you know,
so instead of we yes, we got to pray for
America as never before, but we have to realize that
we're part of it too. If we don't, we are
to repent. If we repent, revival begins with us. Let's
choose revival to walk and what do we need to do?
Let's do it. Let's not say tomorrow we're going to

(50:48):
get it together. Let's say today and God will begin.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Yeah. There has to be this sense of immediacy because
time is drawing nigh. And as you said, God has
blessed He has blessed us with this opportunity. You and
I talked about this the last time. Is that God
is in a sense kind of set time out on
the insanity and the chaos, lest we we would go
nuts and our heads would explode. Johnson, we got about

(51:12):
a minute and a half left. I'm gonna let you
summarize and then tell people how they can get their
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Speaker 6 (51:17):
Now, yeah, what this is it? Guys? You know there
are a lot of you who prayed for I wish
I could live in biblical times. Congratulations, You're in biblical times. Now,
this is only biblical and we got a job to do,
you know. So let's rise to it and with our
in our own lives, we can do it. God's gonna
bless you if you say, yes, whatever you gotta do.
Is there anything in your life that shouldn't be there,
get it out, anything that's not in your life that

(51:39):
should be you know it. Don't say tomorrow. Lord, I'm
wanna start rising today. And then let's pray as and
let's join me. Let's join me and Bill together and
all of us to pray as never before for revival
for America. God have his way with Trump, have his
way with America and the world and God will answer
our prayers. As for that. With the Avatar, we just
touched on some of the mysteries. If you can imagine it.
It is the most explosive I've ever written, and we

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Speaker 5 (54:17):
Hey, good morning America. Six minutes after the top. They
are Bill Martinez here. Great to have you with a
sharing part of your day. For more information on the show,
you can go to Bill Martinez Live dot com. Well,
we're gonna be talking about the economy to the left,
a bit of a I don't know, a shock. I mean,
they're they're trying to I mean, it's almost like they've
been cheering the economies should be losing, and they can't

(54:39):
see how well the economy is doing. And meanwhile, they
tried to steal the affordability issue that Trump got elected on.
And I guess the Republicans and Democrats, I mean are
Republicans and President Trump have realized, hey, wait a minute,
we shouldn't allow of all people some Marxists to take
over the afford ability clift, especially when he has nothing

(55:01):
behind him to support how he can deliver any kind
of affordability. While we're talking to Eric Ware right now.
He's the author of Who's Eating Your Buy Essential Financial
advice that will transform your life. Eric, welcome back. Good
to have you with us.

Speaker 9 (55:14):
Oh, it's good to be here, and thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (55:16):
Well, the reality is everybody went to grandma's house this
Thanksgiving and they celebrated lower gas prices except if you
were in California. But of course that's an anomaly in
and of itself. Thank you very much, Governor Newsom. And
Black Friday spending, I'll tell you, for a depressed economy
and depressed people spent almost twelve billion dollars up nine percent.

Speaker 9 (55:39):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, that's amazing, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (55:44):
So you know, so what's with the narrative here? I mean,
this has become a political narrative. It's not a reality.
But this is what got the Democrats in trouble for
twenty twenty four is that they liked so much that
they lost all credibility. But you know that's all they
know to do.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
No it it I mean, they're they're just they're creating,
they're just making attacks that are they're they're they're ludicrous.
And and if you look at New York or the
efforts to to have rent control, the efforts to have
a government step in and uh cost property owners the
inability to adjust their expenses, backfires because what happens is, ultimately, uh,

(56:24):
there's there's no more supply because nobody wants to build
into that market, and then demand continues to grow and
supply stay stagnant, and ultimately when the people move out,
there's massive increases and rent for the next person. But
it's a it hasn't worked, and it doesn't work, and
the policies that that are there in most of the
those major cities are just I mean, I mean, what

(56:46):
they try to do to help actually hurt. So they
increase taxes on the on the rich, and then you'll
see the people are leaving New York and droves. People
are leaving in California and droves. And there's still great
cities and great places to live, and business opportunities are there.
But if you have flexibility, at some point you just
get tired of it.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Well, you've got to be able to make money. Eric,
you don't go there and invest good money to lose money,
and just out of the goodness of your heart, I mean,
because we know going the road that Mamdani has laid
out for New Yorkers is you're opening the door to
slum lords.

Speaker 9 (57:22):
Oh yeah, you're yeah you are yeah, oh yeah yeah.
I mean it's you. And that's what happens. I mean,
if you're not getting if you can't increase your rent,
and there there's there're maintenance issues, so you you turn
a blind eye towards it. And it's been the history
of New York for for some time. This isn't a
new problem. I was somebody's apartment in New York a

(57:43):
few months ago and they're paying seven thousand a month
and for rent and it's not a big place, right,
And you go in the apartment and they're deferred maintenance everywhere.
They call the landlord and there they're slow to respond,
if at all, if it's a major sometimes, but they
just do the least they possibly can. They'll have like
a nephew come by and try to fix it or something,
but not like a professional.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
Right exactly. And nephew with a YouTube video.

Speaker 9 (58:08):
Right, they're watching YouTube trying to fix the problem. That's
exactly what happens.

Speaker 5 (58:13):
Well, so here we are, like I said, Black Friday,
spending up. It seems that the attitude on the ground
is very positive and where things are being set up.
I mean, you know, the big beautiful bill, all the
benefits of the big beautiful Bill won't really come into
full play and realization until you know, first quoter, maybe

(58:33):
second quarter to its fullest, which will be just in
time for the midterms. And so what are the Democrats.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Going to do? Then?

Speaker 9 (58:41):
I think the midterms are I mean, it's amazing the
number of people that are listening to lies. I think
what's happening with the risk that that is, I think
is that people are feeling satisfied in some level. They're
they're they're encouraged, they're spending money, and then there are
certain people that are just completely irritated by the Trump

(59:04):
policies and plans. The risk is that the satisfied people
stay home and don't vote or don't vote in numbers
where the people are dissatisfied, quite quite honestly, and quite
often they'll say they'll move ahead and they will vote.
And I think that's what happened in New York, So
you've got to be careful with that. So there is

(59:25):
a risk, but I think from a policy procedure, from
an economic procedure, from interest rate cycle is going down now.
I think there are in energy oils below sixty dollars
a barrel. That's a big cost factor. So houses are
going to be easier to afford with the rates coming down.
So I think everywhere you look, the lights are on green,

(59:49):
and there are a few cautions here and there, but
it's a very positive environment.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
And you've got trillions of dollars outside of the country
coming into the country investing. I mean, what are we
up to about ninet trillion now at least.

Speaker 9 (01:00:01):
And the policies and the kind of normalizing tariffs, like
if you tariff for me ten percent, I'll tear a
few ten percent. I mean, not a novel concept, but
for years US was tear tariffing two and being paying
ten twenty thirty percent tariffs. And you say, hey, we'll
kind of get something that rhymes with one another and
another company are saying, geez, I'd rather just build a
plant there. I'm going to open up and do business

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in America directly and not and save the tariff money.
So it's been a real positive thing. And these have
long tails, you know. I know that in a small
state like South Carolina. When Boeing relocated from Washington to
South Carolina, it completely changed that part of the state.
And the same thing happened when BMW moved to Greenville,
South Carolina. They completely changed that part of the state

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because all the peripheral businesses come in and they aligned
and the suppliers. And America is a great place to
invest in because the idea you have to think about
is A, we have the best highway system in the world.
B We're the only country that has the waterways throughout
the US. I mean, the rivers, access to oceans, the
rail system's fantastic, air we speak the same language. You know,

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you don't have to have a passport to travel around.
And you had all that together, and no one has
a competitive environment like we do.

Speaker 5 (01:01:16):
Yeah, we just have to get some of these barriers
out of the way. One of one of the top
for me is you know, government regulations.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
Right one hundred percent. I mean, the regulations are crazy
and in so many ways, and I think I think
they start off to to be helpful, but then they
get bureaucratic, and they and they take a lot of
time and and and they're not necessary. So I think
just trying to go through and eliminate as much of
the red tape as possible is great. I've I've been

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involved in developing real estate in different states, and I've
done it in California. I've done it and uh, you
know everything from there to South Carolina, Georgia, other places.
And if you go to a state that you know,
there's some states that just is a lot more expensive. Yeah,
there's a lot more bureaucracy, a lot more more costs
just because of the way things are structured.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
Yeah, but look how much how much cost is involved
when you have like in Los Angeles, for example, with
all those homes that were burnt down in the Palisades, right,
it's expensive for those homes not to be up and operating.
And the government, I mean, you know here, Karen Bess
is right there with Trump saying, oh yeah, we're going
to move these things along. They're going to be able

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to get building permits within a week. You got people
still waiting for months, Eric waiting to get their permits.

Speaker 9 (01:02:34):
Oh yeah, they can't. They can't do anything, and then
that's a material. It's just a I mean, that's that's
been a night a nightmare. And the whole thing was
necessary because of the there there was a reduction of
the available water supply due to trying to protect a
fish of some sort from from from damage, and then
you end up having people die and billions and billions

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of dollars of loss, you know. So it it's interesting
to see how the policies really have very unintended consequences.

Speaker 5 (01:03:06):
In my view, well exactly, we got to go to
quick break. We've got more from Eric right after this.
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Welcome back Bill Martinez here with Eric where. Eric is
an author of Who's Eating Your I love the title
of the book, essential financial advice that will transform your life.
Just take a moment, Eric, give somebody a real quick
executive summary of Who's Eating Your Pie.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
Yeah, So the book was written and too. I wrote
it during COVID, and I was noticing the depression that
people had and feeling separated and down and out. So
I wrote it as a way. The first chapters called
permission a dream and what most of us are held
back substantially by our own limiting views, our own limiting beliefs,
about ourselves or you were told you want to mount
to anything, or are we think we want to have

(01:08:30):
the money or the education. And I really talk about
getting to clarity in five areas of your life and
the massive difference that makes, and it can attract capital
of talent people to get the clarity. It solves everything.
And most people just never take time to plan, and
they never take time to think. And I just organized
the book in a very simple way that it can

(01:08:50):
transform your life from a financial perspective, a relational perspective,
a health perspective, and a family perspective, because the once
you clarify what's important to you, then you can take
steps to attain those goals.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
It's amazing how they interconnect those five areas, right.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
Oh yeah, Faith, family, fitness, finance, friends, they all connect.
And there's a my mom would say something like, Eric,
common sense, isn't that common anymore? And and some of
the some of the areas are just when you read it,
it's not a revelatory thought, but it's like, you know,
I'm not doing this and it makes sense and I
should be doing this, and you know, encouraging people to

(01:09:27):
make progressive change. Most of us fail because the change
that we want to make is so great, and we
attempt to make a massive change very quickly, like I'm
not going to eat tomorrow at all because i want
to lose weight. And then then you break your fast
with you know, a bucket of fried chicken and ice cream,
and you're like, wow, that was bad. Right, But if
if you make minor changes daily, they compound. And I

(01:09:49):
think that's it is give yourself a break. You're going
to have setbacks, you're not going to hit everything. But
if you keep applying consistent pressure in a certain area
or effort rather pays off.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
I always say, give yourself a fair chance to win. Eric,
that's your point. So otherwise, if you're gobbling down and
you know, and then chasing all the heavy food that
you swore off with a pizza the goat, you know,
and if that's your inclination and you can't overcome, then
maybe you need to come up with a different.

Speaker 9 (01:10:16):
Goal, right right, right. I've told people just hey, you know,
I'm heavy, and maybe that's fine, just stay heavy, But
would you want to do something else or or you
can still be healthy? Just you know, just what is important.
And I learned this from Jack Welch. It didn't work
for him, but he would say, tell me how things are,
how they really are, not how you wish they were,
not how you want them to be. And if you

(01:10:38):
think about that, just being honest, you know. And I
just thought, you know, this is what I want to do,
This is who I want to be, This is the
life I want to live. And if you have desire
to do that, and it doesn't you know that you
can get there. And well you'll find out is you
can't have goals that are cross purposes with your values.
You want to tan them, you know, so they need

(01:11:00):
to be aligned aligned with your values.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Yeah, you'll self sabotage yourself. I like what you said
about what Jack had to say. That's a prescription for
our country, right.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Right, I mean apply apply every it's everything. It's it's
every meeting I go to, it's everything I do, and
it's everything. Is people always want to have either a
frownie face or a smiley face view the view of
their life through a lens, and it's a lens of
their past experiences oftentimes. But it's like, hey, why don't
we just view it as how the situation is. Let's

(01:11:32):
not add drama to the situation, what is the situation
and then just removal drama is remove the client and
let's know what steps need to be taken to resolve
the situations, and then take away the drama. It's amazing
how much more you ca get accomplished.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Yeah, and you'd be surprised how quick you could get
to the solution, right, yeah, of course, right, yeah, exactly
minimize the drama, you know, and I understand. Look at
there's uh you know, drama brings a little color, it
adds to the past and that sort of thing. But
at the end of the day, you got to ask yourself, Hey,
if we move the ball down the field, or is
it still in the same place or worse yet, did

(01:12:07):
we lose ground in the process? Right, that's right, Well
we're talking and that's the way to go. Yeah, we're
talking with Eric Wheer, said the author of Who's Eating
Your Pipe? Get get your hands on this book. I
mean there's some great practical, common sense things that you'll
go you know what my grandma told me that, Well, yeah,
of course she did, because it's these are you know,

(01:12:29):
tales as old as time as they would say. Uh,
you know, Eric, you say if America has an affordability crisis,
it's interesting that it tends to land in the places
that democrats are governing, Right.

Speaker 9 (01:12:42):
That's true. It's crazy, and you know, it's policies that
they have that I think are originated with good intentions.
But any time you tried to disrupt the natural flow
of things or free markets or supply, the natural laws
of supply and demand, and you try to put external
forces on that, it just doesn't work. It just it

(01:13:05):
just doesn't work. And it's it's it causes things to
go askeuwe And if you think of anything, if you're saying,
I'm going a ration bread in another country, then what happens?
And then black markets start for bread? You know, So
I'm gonna do this through So every everything that you
try to regulate at some point, if if it's overdone,
it has adverge consequences. And with the real estate, if

(01:13:27):
it's rent control, then supply shrinks and the quality of
the asset goes down. If it's if it's hey, we're
going to tax the rich, they don't they won't miss
it and give it to people who have or not.
You know, for other reasons that that has consequences if
you So, you know, I was talking to to a
person who is of wealth and they had an advisor
in the room and overheard the advisor say something, and

(01:13:49):
they said, giving somebody something that they didn't work for,
uh is is not a good start. So if you
give somebody large amount of money and they didn't earn it,
they said, it's bad for them. It cripples people. And
I've never heard of positioned that way until this advisor
said that. I was that's really true about a lot
of things. So if you give things to people that

(01:14:10):
there's no appreciation or no merit behind it, it's it
doesn't do a lot of good.

Speaker 5 (01:14:15):
Well, there's lessons deprived in the process because if they're earning.
I mean, you know, if you need that first one
hundred thousand dollars, you know, to start the business, there's
a lot that you learn practically, as you know in business,
that you learn in that hundred thousand dollars realm. But
if I give that to you, I've really cut your

(01:14:37):
you know, cut you off at the knees because now
you've lost that appreciation and lessons that you should have
learned in that one hundred thousand dollars realm.

Speaker 9 (01:14:45):
Right correct, one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:14:47):
Yeah, So yeah, I think this is what happens. And
I think that, you know, like sometimes you say, you
know with good intentions, and I question that. I think
you're you're generous. If I can be critical of that
statement for just a moment, I think, I think you're
trying to be too nice. Because the thing is is
that so often with political motivation, I look at Okay,
are you really trying to help somebody? Or are you

(01:15:10):
trying to get a vote? And what I'm finding more
often than not, because you know, what I see what
happens in Congress is these people go in and I'm
talking about freshmen and whether senators or congressmen and congress women,
sure go in and their first orientation meeting, they say, hey,
why are you here? Oh, I'm here to support my constituents.

(01:15:32):
This is what they told me. And the answer is
at wrong answer? What do you mean? Wrong answer? No,
you're here to get reelected. And as soon as we're
done with this meeting, we've got a bank of phones
over here, and you're going to get on a phone
and you're going to start fundraising. So all those ideals
that you brought with you become subordinate to the number

(01:15:53):
one issue, and that is survival as a congressman or
as a senator. You've got to get re elected. So
when that becomes as you know in business, when that
becomes the focal point, well then all those good intentions
get kind of nullified, they get they get homogenized and
and and lessened in significance.

Speaker 9 (01:16:13):
Yeah, that's one hundred percent right, And and it's it's
it's so it's so crazy to think about, but it
is true. And uh if you look, and I was,
I was trying to be generous, uh, but so many
of decisions are being made because of the pursuit of power,
the pursuit of inflow exact position. And and that's not

(01:16:33):
a real good place to.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Be, No, it really isn't. It's not good for you.
It's not wholesome. I mean, you look at all these
people with you know, all kinds of diseases and ailments.
It's because they're pursuing something that's unattainable. Because it's like
you know, pat Riley, I love his book Showtime. You know,
when he was the Lakers coach, he called it the
disease of more Eric. You know, you get on that

(01:16:55):
hamster wheel of life where it's just it's just never enough.

Speaker 9 (01:16:59):
And that's what this season more. Yeah, I've read you
heard somebody say something I have something you'll never have
to to. It was on a TV show, but it
was kind of funny and there was talking to a
character I have somebody you'll never have, when he goes,
what's that enough? And I thought that was that was
interesting to see and I think that, you know, with
most of the things in life. People a lot of
people who are fight depression, but the most things in life,

(01:17:21):
if you start with a little bit of gratitude, it's
hard to be depressed. With gratitude that they can't coexist
and to the extent you can find something to be
grateful for. You heard the story about the person who
you know looks is sad because they're stuck inside. They
look out the window and somebody's in a car accident
and wow, it's sad for that. Then that person goes

(01:17:42):
to the hospital but they're not that hurt, but a
little hurt. They share a room with somebody's really hurt, right,
and well, I'm glad I'm not that guy. And that guy,
you know, gets dismissing. On his way home, he goes
by a funeral procession. Well, I'm glad I'm not that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:17:54):
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Well, good morning, America. Great to have you with us.
Bill Martinez here with the one and only Horace Cooper,
a former constitutional law professor, recognized legal commentator, and author.
He's here too. We'll we'll talk about Scotus. We'll also
talk about the latest that's happening. Off of Venezuela. Horace Cooper,
Welcome always, Happy New Year, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 16 (01:22:28):
Happy New Year, Merry Christmas. I'm really really excited for
all the great things that God has in store for
America and for me and my family.

Speaker 5 (01:22:37):
Well, you know, this is the thing I keep telling people.
I mean, it's kind of amazing what's going on right
now if you have ice to see, God is really moving.
I mean, there's things that are happening here in our
country that the media, mainstream media, which tells you where
the mainstream media is at. And of course the left,
I mean, they're so godless. I mean I feel for
them and I pray for them because you know, there

(01:23:00):
are danger to themselves and their families by decidedly making
a decision to turn their backs on God. Right.

Speaker 16 (01:23:09):
Well, absolutely, this is part of what the Old Testament says,
you know, in second Chronicles, my people who are called
by My name, right, the Lord says that if we
repent and we acknowledge him, that he and we turn

(01:23:30):
from eric wicked ways, that he will hear our prayers,
and he will hear h'll our lan. There are the
earliest stages of a revival happening in America and it's
been sorely needed. You know, in America, we've had a

(01:23:51):
couple of really big revivals. We had one right after
the Civil War. We had any other one right after
World War Two. Billy Graham was a big part of it.
We thought we were going to start one. You know,
I was two or three years old, but we thought
America thought it would start one with what was called

(01:24:12):
the Jesus Movement in the seventies. But we are really
starting to see record numbers of our young people going
to church accepting salvation. And my prayer is that that
just expands and expands, and what DC is a outcome

(01:24:35):
that pleases God. And when he is pleased, there will
be blessings for our society, even for those who don't
honor Him exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:24:46):
You know, the thing is, again we're reminded how much
God loves us. I mean, here it is the Christmas season.
We're an advent, the greatest gift that God gave us
and his son. But you know, you recount Second Chronicle
seven fourteen, which again is a demonstration of God's love
for us because he knew that we were going to
mess up, and he inspired the leadership of Israel to

(01:25:09):
make that proclamation that when you screw up, you know
God will forgive you. And you got to know that
first of all, that God recognizes you as his people. Right,
You're not aliens, you're not illegal, you are his people.
And he says, if his people, and so you're sanctified

(01:25:29):
and set aside because he calls you by name. You know,
if my people who are called by my name, and
he calls us by your name. I mean, this is
how much this again, manifestation of this is clear evidence,
if I can put it in legal terms, horace, that
God loves us because he knows that we're going to
mess up, and he gave us a remedy. He said,
look at, if you will acknowledge that you have gotten

(01:25:52):
outside and over your skis and you've been a knucklehead. Hey,
look at I'm the father who loves you. I will
forgive you your sins, restore you know, the good times
back to you. I will heal your land. All will
be forgiven. And you were going to be right with
me once again? Right?

Speaker 16 (01:26:09):
Yes, I want to amplify by the way uh as
we say in my church, this will preach. I want
to amplify It isn't just us as individuals. Yes, we
as individuals need to repent, but the reward is to
our land, to our nation. Exactly, we as Christians do

(01:26:34):
what we should do, and if enough of us do
what we should do, our whole country will prosper. This
country's existence, I believe came about as one of the
greatest gifts that God has placed un planet Earth. And
you say, oh, what are you talking about? We had slavery.

(01:26:59):
America today is the country that provides more support for
charity than any other country on the planet. In fact,
our charitable giving exceeds that of the government of Japan,

(01:27:19):
of the government of China, of the government of England,
of the governments of the EU, all combined. Exactly who
sets the record for faith giving, it is Americans. And
if this planet is going to be able to have

(01:27:42):
it said that every woman, man and child hears about
the greatest gift of all salvation, it's going to be
because of what we do with our exactly excited.

Speaker 5 (01:27:56):
About that hundred percent. And this is the thing, This
is why the people who are called by God's name,
because God is moving, As Charles Finney would say, Horace,
that revival happens when it's most needed.

Speaker 16 (01:28:10):
And when you look at.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
Our country right now, the chaos, the spiritual chaos that
it's in. I mean, we're so confused that we have
what ninety different gender assignments, you know, and now they're
saying that your gender is assigned at birth. It's just,
I mean, it's so absurd where we are right now
as a country, and we can't seem to solve the

(01:28:33):
problems at this level. Those problems are solved in the heavenlies.
That's why we have to elevate ourselves, get out of
the morass of this confusion and this demonic controlled zip
codes and land in which we live in right now,
temporarily thank God and reach out to God and say, God,

(01:28:54):
we need your help, and you know, confess and say,
look at we deserve this. We deserve where we are
right now because we turned our back on you. And
the Bible's real clear that once you turn your back
on God, you really render yourself stupid, don't you.

Speaker 16 (01:29:09):
Well, yes, in fact, he even says that he curses
us by making it harder for us to see our
way towards him. Remember Pharaoh in the Book of Exodus,
in the story he hardened Pharaoh's heart. The Book of Acts,
excuse me, the Book of Romans says the same thing

(01:29:31):
can happen. And that's why I'm so excited about the revival,
because what it means is that the Holy Spirit is
allowing people to have ministered to them, let them hear
of the need to repent, to turn and hear God,

(01:29:51):
and then able to be blessed by God.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
Exactly. Yeah. And my cautionary tale is to those who
are maybe a little bit ahead of the curve right
now and they are more in alignment with God, be
prepared for these people coming in. Don't get upset because
they took your parking spot or your favorite spot in
the fuge. You know, you know, be prepared because you
never know what it's going to take.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:30:15):
The Bible says a word aptly spoken, you know, Horace
I found sometimes it's just a smile aptly given to
a fellow journer, you know, journeyer who is going through this, uh,
you know, this, this this life that we're going through.

Speaker 16 (01:30:30):
Yes, s yes, you know, they're simple things. They're big things,
but they're simple things. Like recently, I was in an
uber vehicle and the gentleman was talking about some of
the challenges that he was facing. When our trip ended,
I asked if he would agree to pray. He willingly

(01:30:51):
did so and thanked me afterwards because he said he
had been wanting to hear. So we can all play
a role. But let's talk a little bit about the
Supreme Court too, because we got.

Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
About a minute. We got about a minute left before
we go to break, so we'll kind of wrap this
up just only as a sidebar. Horse. You know, I
love it when people want to pray for me, but
me personally don't. Don't give me fruitcake. I don't understand fruitcake.
It's a mystery to me. And it's kind of like liver.

Speaker 6 (01:31:23):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
Some people say, well, Bill, you've never really had my
fruitcake or really good fruitcake. I don't know fruitcake, fruitcake.
I don't understand it.

Speaker 16 (01:31:32):
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I was a kid, and I did not like liver.
To day, I actually don't like dinner. But I happened
to comment that I didn't like it, and my father
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way out. I cut my way through that liver and

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it was awful, and I put a smile on.

Speaker 5 (01:32:16):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:32:18):
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As promise, we're back with your Horace Cooper, the nationally
recognized legal commentator, continues with US right now, Horace, you
want to do let's talk about SCOTUS. I mean a
lot of I mean things are bubbling up here, and you,
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Supreme Court.

Speaker 16 (01:36:52):
Well, let's talk about where we are. President Trump's administration
is about ninety three percent. When I was in school,
that was considered an a grade. Ninety three percent success
rate before the United States Supreme Court. Barack Obama, the

(01:37:13):
so called constitutional scholar, was about forty five percent before
the Supreme Court, and he set the dubious record of
having the most unanimous rulings against him of any president
in the last fifty years. Well, guess what, mister Biden's

(01:37:34):
record was worse than even Barack Obama a wrong, wrong,
wrong on so many issues. Now, he didn't get as
many unanimous rulings against him because Supreme Court Justice Jackson,
who was prepared apparently to take any crazy argument and

(01:37:56):
rule in favor of it, so you couldn't get a
unanimous But he kept losing, and he lost at a
rate where his victories were about thirty two or thirty
three percent of the time, if you were betting it
was a good idea to say, let's find out where
the Biden administration is and assume I don't even know

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anything about the law, but I'm going to go the
other way.

Speaker 5 (01:38:22):
Exactly exactly, Well, that was I guess, pretty much the
theme of the Obama administration and the Democratic Party during
that era.

Speaker 9 (01:38:30):
Right.

Speaker 16 (01:38:31):
Well, yeah, it was taking the law to places where
it absolutely shouldn't. It was saying to Christian schools and organizations,
you are going to be forced to hire people who
reject your church's teachings. Our founders intended, they absolutely intended

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with the drafting of the First Amendment, to give us space,
amount of space so that people of faith could operate
and live their lives. You know, earlier in the segment,
I talked about how much charity there has been a
worldwide that is faith based. Part of that comes because

(01:39:16):
our Charter, our constitution, our Bill of Rights specifically respects
people of faith. Both mister Obama and mister Biden regularly
targeted people of faith to force them to undertake views
and beliefs that they personally rejected. If you have an

(01:39:38):
employee and that employee tells you I share your beliefs.
I will honor your beliefs. And then you find out
they're having affairs, they're engaging in slander, they're undertaking a
whole host of behaviors. The Supreme Court has consistently said

(01:39:58):
in a case like that, the organization can in fact
terminate you for failing to repent. So this has really
been the Roberts The Roberts Court, which many people are
are a big critical of, has been a bulwark of

(01:40:19):
First Amendment protections.

Speaker 5 (01:40:22):
Well, you know, it makes you wonder horace, And I
don't know. I mean, maybe it's unfair to ask the question,
but it's one that begs asking. And that is Barack
Obama presented himself as a as a Christian, I mean,
Jeremiah Wright Christian, and and here you got Joe Biden
as a practicing Catholic. And you know, they were just

(01:40:46):
they added to the confusion and really put us on
this trajectory where so many Americans who bought into their personalities,
you know, are kind of lost in the wilderness right now.
If I can put it in those terms.

Speaker 16 (01:41:03):
A lot of what had been presented to the American
people is quickly falling apart. People forget that Barack Obama,
when he originally ran, said on a really fundamental issue
of the day that he supported marriage between a man
and a woman and didn't support redefining it. And yet

(01:41:24):
his administration pushed and foisted gay marriage on America in
a way that has had a very, very consequential effect.
And the truth is, this is what he'd always believed,
but he had wanted us to believe something different. But
let's take that off the table. What about the Affordable

(01:41:47):
Care Act. If you lost the doctor, you can keep
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In fact, it was listed by the Associated Press as
a lie of the Year because of such consequential Look

(01:42:10):
at what President Biden did with the ending of our
presence in Afghanistan. It was an unmitigated nightmare that we
today as a country are still suffering from. And yet
when he campaigned, he said he would be a champion

(01:42:33):
a foreign policy. It would be great for America to
have someone with his leadership and his experience on the
Senate Foreign Relations Committee. That turned out to be a nightmare.
My point in all that is to say what we
see when these people run and what they do after

(01:42:53):
they get in office are completely and totally different. Our
president today has been working with our United States Constitution
and pursuing the very principles that our founders intended, rather
than the deviations that his predecessors sought.

Speaker 5 (01:43:16):
And when you violate these, you know, the wisdom of
the constitution, you put Americans in danger. You mentioned Afghan
Afghanistan and the pulling out of Afghanistan. Of course, many
refugees came here into the country, and we had one
Afghan refugee travel across the country and kill a National

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Guards woman and severely injure another who we're getting, you know,
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But sadly we lost a quality individual National Guards woman
because of this. And this is the cost of violating
our constitution and compromising the number one priority of the

(01:44:03):
chief executive officer, the commander in chief of our country.
When he violates our constitution, he puts America at risk.

Speaker 16 (01:44:11):
That's right. So I said at the time that we
as a nation, and that was speaking directly to Congress,
need to change the law and challenge the Supreme Court's
ruling back in the late nineteen seventies and again in
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(01:44:37):
you can't have the death penalty for them. Here's my argument.
First of all, the founders never agree to that. But
here's my argument. You do, as a killer, a shooter, attacker,
everything you possibly can to murder someone, and science and

(01:44:57):
skilled physicians and even the strong prayer of others prevent
that person from dying. You shouldn't escape the punishment for
doing what you have done. Our founders said any time
you commit a felony, any felony, you were eligible for

(01:45:19):
the death penalty. Now, the Kennedy ruling that came out
in two thousand and five suggested that Louisiana couldn't punish
a man for brutally raping three children? Is it or
is it six?

Speaker 5 (01:45:38):
What's the number rad would.

Speaker 16 (01:45:41):
Have been allowed? And they said the ruling was, well,
no one died. This child's innocence completely each one of
those children completely destroyed. There ought to be a penalty.
If you go up to a National guardsman and you
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(01:46:03):
ought to pay. And I asked that that's what Kung
Wor should do pass a new law allowing for these
kinds of crimes to be death penalty eligible, and if necessary,
challenge the Supreme Court to overturn what I believe was
an erroneous decision.

Speaker 5 (01:46:25):
If we're going to do something about dissuading offenders and lawbreakers, well,
first of all, there needs to be consequences right now, right,
you know, we've got a breakdown in consequences, and this
is why this crime is going. And then thank god,
you've got Donald Trump coming in and you know, trying
to restore law in order. I mean, that is foundational

(01:46:45):
to the Democratic Republic. Yet the Democrats are saying that
Donald Trump is a threat for democracy when everything he's
doing is to fortify democratic rule.

Speaker 16 (01:46:53):
Right, Well, that's exactly right. You know, in the president campaign,
I heard him say a couple times if you take
fentanyl or if you take another deadly drug, heroin to
an elementary school and hand it out, that alone ought
to get you the death penalty. Doesn't matter what ended

(01:47:16):
up happening. And that's to your point, Bill Martinez. We
need consequences. There have to be consequences. And now I
get told, well, what about people that can't help themselves.
Let me tell you something. If you can't help yourself
and you can't stop yourself from brutally harming other people.

Speaker 5 (01:47:41):
Then we need to get you right exactly.

Speaker 16 (01:47:45):
What's not actually an excuse, that's not a protection. That's
an argument for us to be even more aggressive. I
believe if we had more accountability, there actually would be
more people exercising good judgment about their behavior. This time
in accountability has harmed America.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
Historical evidence would would prove that out. What they're talking
is in the realm of theory, and their theory falls
flat because the data proves them wrong. Flat Outhors.

Speaker 16 (01:48:20):
Yeah, yeah, Look, we serve a god who believes in grace,
who believes in giving people a second chance, but he
has an ultimatum that in the end, if you are
not with him, you're going to be punished in damnation forever.

(01:48:42):
That's because he believes in accountability.

Speaker 5 (01:48:48):
It's why he gave the shord. That's why he gave
the shord to government so that they would render justice.

Speaker 16 (01:48:54):
Right, that's right, that's exactly right. So if you want
to choose to serve him, he welcomes it, yes, But
if you don't fare will be accountability. I don't understand
any of these theories like you just described, where they
say just give them another chance, just ignore what they did.

(01:49:17):
I mean, the mayor of New York City elect is
hiring a convicted felon to advise him on how to
set police interrogation and oversight policies. That's the exact wrong way.
It will be open season, and as far as I'm concerned,

(01:49:41):
I plan to be staying out of New York City
while he's mayor.

Speaker 5 (01:49:45):
I'm right with you, Horace Cooper. He's a former constitutional
law professor, recognized legal commentator, and author right here on
Bill Martinez Life, Horace, thank you very much.

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sixties all meals, include it for only two ninety nine. Again,
come to Port of Iart in Mexico, all meals, all
drinks to ninety nine. We'll even give you a free

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cruiser Land package if you're one of the first fifty
people to call right now again. Come to port of
Iar in Mexico for only two ninety nine. Be one
of the first fifty people to book right now in
our luxurious all inclusive resort. If you're in your forties, fifties, sixties,
even up to the eighties, you deserve a great vacation,

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So take it right now. Port Ior to Mexico well now,
and get a free cruiser land package on top of
your trip.

Speaker 10 (01:50:45):
Eight hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight
hundred ninety five nine seven oh two oh eight hundred
ninety five nine seven oh two oh. That's eight hundred
ninety five nine seventy twenty