September 15, 2025 • 47 mins
The ideology of any spiritual or political figure can be measured by its legacy. Does it end with the demise of the figure who championed it? Or does it go forth even stronger than before? Only time will tell if Charlie Kirk's vision of Turning Point will go forth even stronger or fade into history as some are hoping. Odds are the millions who follow Kirk not only here in America, but around the world and the solid rock principles he espoused are essential to a legacy. Join me as we discuss.
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Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us. I'm Bill
Martinez and we're going to talk about the legacy of
Charles Charles James Kirk. You know, my wife pointed out
that James Kirk must have been his parents must have
been Star Trek fans. I don't know that for a fact,
but you know, it just kind of just sticks out
that his middle name was James, and of course hurt,
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you know, why not. But anyway, a lot to discuss
about Charlie. It's it's kind of hard to imagine here's
a fellow citizen who loved this country and wanted the
best for each of us to be treated in the
manner which he's been treated. Yes, I get greatly honored,
not only here in the United States but around the world,
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which just says something about this thirty one year old,
I guess, iconic generational figure. Many have thought that. In fact,
my good friend Dennis Brager, and I'm going to read
an email from him in just a moment, said that
Charlie was probably on a trajectory to become a potential
presidential candidate down the road. And I think Dennis is
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spot on with that, you know, with that consideration, because
he was just he was just so sharp. And I
know the kids, you know where he went to, you know,
in these universities, some of the kids would make fun
of him because he didn't have a degree. And then
he challenged the head and you know, asked him, you know,
a Socratic question, you know, well, how's this, how's this
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working out for you? Is your future look bright? Do
you look like you're going to be very successful with
your degree? You know, because there's lots of other people
ahead of you right now that aren't doing too well
with degrees. And Charlie, when he went to a school
and went to college, I think he maybe a semester
maybe somewhere, maybe most was the year. I think anyway,
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he realized that it just didn't fit, it wasn't for him.
And so has he declared himself he's he's self taught
and no question about it that he is uber intellectual.
He has the IQ and he was also just of
an incredible inquiring mind. Bill Fetterer another dear friend. In fact,
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I'm doing a show tomorrow with Bill on our Daily
Show at Bill Martinez Show dot com. You can tune
in for that because he'll be on for the whole hour.
We're going to talk about constitution and Constitution Day you
know this week, by the way, in case you didn't
know or forgot, a critical day I believe in our
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nation's history is to understand the Constitution. When there's so
many people that don't, you know, even with the people,
there's a result we're left ignorant and we're left in
a position to be manipulated because we don't know when
we fail to understand the dynamics of the Constitution how
to protect us now, to protect one another. And so anyway,
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we're going to talk about that, but more specifically, we're
going to spend some time in talking about Charlie Kirk.
Bill and Charlie were very very close, communicated on a
weekly basis, emails back and forth, and Bill, you know,
shares those emails with us, and you know, so needless
to say, there's a good portion of the country that
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is still in shock and processing you know what happened.
You know, how how could this happen? You know? And
I can tell you in many ways, Charlie and I
were very much aligned. You know, our love for country,
I love for the Constitution, but more importantly is our
love for Jesus Christ and our faith. And I think
this is one of the things that a lot of
people didn't quite understand about Charlie. What what drove him
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and what made him so effective, And it started with
his heart. He had a pure heart, and his heart
was you know, toward people looking at them like the
Bible says, made in the image of God. When you
consider another person that your eye to eye with and
having a conversation that they're made in the image of God.
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You know, there's no class structure here. You know, as
one theologian said, I have never as a result of that,
he says, I've never met a mere mortal, and I
can tell you I tried to live my life that way.
I've tried to live my life in such a way
that I didn't look at somebody in a less than position.
And I don't know, maybe because where I was raised,
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and you know, the family that I came from. You
know my parents, he had actually their grandparents had immigrated
to the United States, and my dad served in World
War Two. He was with Patent and the European Theater
at the Battle of the Bulge. He was a medic.
Three of his sons, including myself and my two other brothers,
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served in the military during the Vietnam War. My number
two brother was more in the in the heat of it.
He was in combat. My oldest brother was a staff sergeant.
I think about as closely got to it was the
Nang And then I ended up. You know, I'd have
been the third brother. It's like saving Private Ryan right
and his things would work out. Because of my broadcasting career,
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I ended up doing Good Morning Camp Pendleton. You may
have heard me relate that story before, so I tell people, yeah,
I did Good Morning Camp Pendleton. Not quite as funny
as Robin Williams, and certainly if I'd have been anywhere
close to funny as funny as Robin Williams. I'd had
been kicked out of the Marine Corps. But you know,
I was blessed to serve the country, and it was
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my honor to do that, as it is for anybody
that serves our country in the military. It's an absolute honor.
And and we're grateful. We're grateful that people will say, hey,
thank you for your service, and it's very very kind
and respectful, uh to honor and uh and I you know,
for me, I mean, you know, I I honor you know,
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our fellow veterans, especially those that fought in combat. And
thank god, it's such a small percentage, but nonetheless, uh,
you know, we lost some uh that were kiad Uh,
some that are still a live today, but you know
carry the wounds of Vietnam as they do in other
wars that have happened since then. And so anyway, that's
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that's all part of my heart. But getting back to
Charlie's position, and this is something that people, you know,
unless you're unless you're a faith it may you may
not understand the context and why Charlie was so humble
and uh. And also why you know, people were so
quick to kind of put words in his mouth and
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to assign assigned to him some sort of ideology that was,
you know, first from the truth in my in my
humble opinion. I mean, you may have disagreed with him,
and that's okay. I think that that's important. It's the
first amendment, right, I mean, of all amendments. I mean,
why would that be the first amendment? You know, our
founding fathers realized that freedom of speech and was so
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critical to the advancement of Western civilization that we must
be open to have conversation. If we're canceling one another,
then you know, you may have heard me say this before,
is we render ourselves stupid. It's it's very uneducated, you know,
to to do that, to cancel somebody, not listen to them.
As my father used to say, you know, you need
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to listen to the other side because you don't know
what part of the puzzle that you're missing that could
fit and just makes sense all of a sudden, you know,
light bulbs go on. You know what I'm talking about,
and it makes sense and and maybe and and the
deal is, I got to tell you I have to
left because I still hear my father telling me this,
and you know that, hey, just slow down, be patient,
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listen to what the person is saying. And you'd also say,
listen to their heart. And because you can get a
lot from listening to another person's heart. You can you
can hear their pain, you can feel their pain and
uh and and that stuff that maybe you know, agitating
you and annoying you. It's it's out of their pain.
But if we think, you know, that it's against us
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and it's our responsibility, which it isn't. You know, you're
not there, you're not the you're not the cause of it.
You're just kind of associated with it because you happen
to take a position that right now they perceive, you know,
is real pain for them. And all that's fine. But
you know, if if you talk it out, and I
can say in those cases when I've been able to
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be successful in doing that, you sense the temperature goes down,
there's calm uh, there's an understanding between both sides that
elevates the conversation and achieves a better solution. And that's
why we've maintained on this show that our goal is
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not about parties, not about the Democrat Party or Republican Party.
I think this is one of the worst things that
our country. And we were warned, our founding fathers warned us,
and George Washington is that party is going to be
the end of us soon as we have parties and
it's us against them, it's the red shirts against the
blue shirts, or you know, kind of deal and you're
at each other's throats and it's all a competitive deal,
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and you lose sight of what's most important. What's most
important is this great American idea that is right there
in the Declaration of Independence in our constitution, that lays
out the rules of play in which all of us
can be successful and attain things that are beyond our imagination.
I mean, this is why people want to come to
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this country because of the opportunity that is here and
that needs to be protected. And is saying in course
thing is that we protect that in such a way
so that it's not an orchestrated equity, because as soon
as you do that, then you you've screwed everything up
because it's no longer equitable. You want, you want to
have a fair shot at it, and that's that's the
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critical thing. And you know, Charlie, believe in that. I
believe in that. I believe that that's what makes things
things fair, is that you have a fair shot that
to exercise the giftings and talents that God has blessed
you with, because I think one of the biggest frustrating
things is for you to be having a talent and
it'll wake you up in the middle of the night
and frustrate the Holy what have you? Autio. Or if
you're working for another organization and you're what I characterize
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a round peg in a square hole, well, those those
friction points, because those where you're not fitting and you
get these friction points going on, that just agitates you
to no end and you're not a fun employee to
work with, right and uh and on many levels, you know,
because when you go and work for an organization, not
only do you want this organization as a seed, but
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you want those around you to succeed and to be elevated.
And if you're working together, then you can elevate one
another and be able to do a lot more together
than you can apart. And I've been blessed in several
occasions in my life to work with organizations and be
able to exercise that philosophy. And I can tell you
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when we did that, we were extremely successful. Everybody on
the team was blessed. They you know, surpassed their economic
goals and their earning goals and that It was a
lot of lot of fun. But for me, the biggest
fun for me was to watch them grow and watch
them accept one another, to really be a team as
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diverse as it was. You know, we had a good
mix of you know, men and women from you know
races and you know, different races and that, and you know,
here's here, here I am, you know, blessed to lead
the team, and it was such an honor. But our
attitude was that, look at we're going to respect one another.
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We were going to come alongside one another and do
what we could to help one another. And everybody won
that way. So again, my philosophy is like Charlie's was,
was that it was you know, for the good of
all concern. And what made it good was because it
started with the word of God. You know, words matter,
and these I say to these people, and this isn't
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you know the first time we've talked about this, because
I've been warning, been warning you for the last couple
of years, the rhetoric was getting amped up in such
a way that somebody was going to get hurt. And
you cannot tell me that the assassination of you know,
Charlie Kirk was just coincidental. They had nothing to do
with the sentiment and the words that were put out there,
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you know, people calling him a fascist, like, how do
you how do you come up with that? I mean,
I've watched a lot Charlie Kirk's videos and there's not
any one time that I could come around and come
away from and say, oh, you know, he's overstepped. It's
he's a fascist. You know. But we use these terms
so loosely, and we assign them to our opponents in
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such a way that it is dangerous. It's it's worse
than yelling, you know, fire in a crowded theater. It's worse.
And this has been going on for a long time.
And I agree with the Vice President, you know that
it seems to be coming more from one side and
the other, and I get it. The general context is,
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you know, we say, well, you know, what happens on
both sides, you know, because we're trying to be fair minded.
I guess but when you don't place blame where it
needs to be placed, then the people that deserve the
blame are somewhat exonerated. And I said this the other day,
is that because consequences are dulled out in a universal
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way and done so to ameliate the offense, the person
that deserves the consequence doesn't feel the full brunt of
their actions. That makes sense, Hey, it's somewhat ameliated. It's
homogenized in such a way it softens the blow. Well,
by softening the blow, we reduce the effectiveness of you know,
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of the consequence. And as a result, you know, like
we've had here in our country. In some states, it's
okay to steal up to one thousand dollars worth of
worth of goods, no arm, no foul, you need jews
the intentions, go steal them. You know you need you
need a dress, Go steal the dress. Okay, you're not
going to go to jail. So right, some of these
it's insane, right, I mean, how do you live that?
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It's just you know, it's it's uncivil. It's nonsense, you know,
because I can't even imagine even if you got away
with it in the short time that your conscience said
some point wouldn't catch up with you, or that maybe
you'd run out of you know, those thousand dollars. I
don't know, opportunities or whatever. You know, you might slip
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over and oh, well, you know you got eleven hundred
dollars worth or I don't know. It's just it's all absurd.
And what's happening is you've got stores as a result
in these local communities that serve these local communities, you
know they're moving out. Yeah, they got upset and they
you know, tired of losing money. I mean it's very painful.
And you know they lock up stuff. You go in,
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you go, I just wanted to, you know, to a toothpaste.
Oh you got to go. You got to wait for
somebody to come in with a key unlocked, you know,
the unlocked the shelf so you can get your tube
of toothpaste. I mean, this is America. Are you kidding me?
This is what's come down to. And the thing is
is that, you know, quit fooling yourself. Look at who
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the perpetrators are. And I know, you know, people don't
want to admit it. They don't want to you know,
say it, just like they don't want to say, well,
you know, all this rhetoric and everything is coming from
one political spectrum. You know, when I was in political
science classes in college, you know, we talked about the
lunatic fringe. Well, you know, we're living with the lunatic fringe,
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and they are picking crazy, crazy to such a degree
that they would justify murdering murdering a figure, a generational
figure like Charlie Kirk, and it didn't even have to
be Charlie, could be anybody. And these murders are happening,
you know, are across our country, and we sit there
and we look at what happens in Chicago, for example.
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Oh you know, it's like it's not that bad, well,
not that bad for you because one of your kids
wasn't one of the six or eight people that got killed,
all right, And every weekend this keeps on happening. I mean,
it's almost like, you know, speaking of Vietnam, it's almost
like we've become numb to it. You know. I remember
when I was growing up, and you know, before you know,
I went in the military, we'd get these body counts
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and these casualty reports every night, right, and it just
got to be like it was just part of the
TV set. It became meaningless, and he realized that, wow,
you know we're talking you know, we're talking a lot
lot of people, hundreds of thousands of young kids, you
know my age, younger even you know that are going
in there and they're no more and you know, in
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their families, and like we we had reported here a
couple of weeks ago with George Lutz, you know, for them,
every day's Memorial Day. You know, this is why we're
supporting you know, the Honor Flag, the Honor and Tribute
Flag that George Lutz has created in this campaign because
you know, we want to support these these families who
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have lost a loved one in military service and they're
gone forever, I mean, for the rest of their lives.
The family will be caring that whole in their heart
of their loved one, you know, these these gold Star families.
So you know, this is this is part of the
fabric of America. And you know, whether it's Charlie Kirk
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or over what two million casualties we've had of people
who have bravely gone forth to the end our constitution
to defend our freedoms. You know, we owe it to
them to preserve you know, to preserve this this country's
democratic republic, you know, as was asked of as you
recall Benjamin Franklin after one of the conventions, a woman
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asked him says, okay, well, what kind of what kind
of government do we have here? He's as well, lady,
you know, a democratic republic if you can keep it.
And I mean, how profound that word? You know, that
response was, if you can keep it? I mean, because
you know we have the left and the Democratic Party
particularly stringing and yelling about democracy is being threatened. Well,
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I think they got to part partly right. First of all,
it's a democratic republic, not a democracy. So again words matter, right,
So we need to put it in proper perspective. The
democratic republic is being threatened. But who's threatening it? Not
somebody who's a determined boogeyman? You know, like here you
got mom, Donnie who Now Kathy Hokele, the governor of
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New York, is decided to indoors who says he's going
to be Donald Trump's worst nightmare. The guy's the mayor
of New York. How is he going to be Donald
Trump's worst nightmare? I think Donald Trump at the federal level,
and with all the monies they can or cannot be
sent to New York because they need help. I mean,
I think that he's more in a position to be
a night bigger nightmare for Mom Donnie than the other
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way around. And just like with Letitia James, you know, saying, well, okay,
I'm going to go and you know, elect me because
I'm going to go after Donald Trump. I mean, really,
this is the kind of political environment in which we
want to live in. And then they wonder why, Okay,
you know, they were all concerned good retribution. You know, Oh,
Donald Trump's going to get back to these people. Well,
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in part again going back to what I said earlier
about consequences, if people don't pay the consequences for the
damage that they've done, then they just keep on doing
it or it's just it's acceptable, and it becomes and
then what happens the next time the offense is even worse.
And that's what's happened, and gradually over the decades, is
that the type of you know, voter fraud, the type
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of law fair you know, the type of you know,
political manipulation and meanness, it just keeps amping up and
no consequence is paid figure. Okay, just get away with it,
and until finally what happens, All hell breaks loose and
now we've got serious problems, and you know, some people
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are going to be shocked. And it's almost like you
remember the abortion doctor Godsnell, right, he was just shocked.
He couldn't believe that he was going to go to
jail for conducting abortions and selling baby parts and doing
all that. He was just shocked because it had been
going on for so long and everybody's kind of doing it.
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And guess what. One of the things he said to
I was a faalum, I believe, and they were in
a meeting said hey, you know a couple of years,
I mean, this is nothing because it'll be acceptable. And
I remember when she relayed that story to me, and
I thought, wow, is this is this the trajectory of
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our society that we would think so little of life
that you know, aborting babies, selling baby parts, you know,
organ harvesting and all that is all acceptable. I mean,
we have we're pretty much there, sadly what we've done
to those who cannot defend themselves, the unborn, and I
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mean it's a sad commentary on our society. But again,
you know, getting back to Charlie Kirk, and what we
believe in is that, you know, we believe life is paramount.
It is a gift of God and that needs to
be held in the utmost of respect because it sets
the condition for society. You know, Mother Teresa said that
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in so many words, that a nation that doesn't respect
life is a nation that is just doomed. And we
have gotten away with this for a long time. Again,
consequences aren't there, you know, some of the consequences are hidden.
And I believe this is why Roe v. Wade went
back to the States because the women, although some of
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them spoke out quite courageously about saying, look at the doctor's,
the whole medical industry lied to me, like you've not
heard that anymore, and you haven't been hearing a lot
of that lately. How the the big pharma and medical
industrial complex, how they've misrepresented and lied to us. Well,
the women who have gone through these abortions have realized
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that it's not just a you know, a clump of
cells that you can cut out and have no impact,
no meaning, you know, and I think you still I
was watching some actress the other day and claiming that
she's had something like forty three abortions and she was
proud of it. I don't know how our body could
handle forty three abortions, so I think she's a bit hyperbolic.
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But regardless, it's like, wow, I mean, how cold hearted
you have to be and how irresponsible do you have
to be to keep getting pregnant and feel like, you know,
the best form of birth control in your orbit is
just to abort and kill that child. And society doesn't
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get away with that without some consequence. Because the thing
is is that which started the conversation, is that you
have to look at this from the spiritual component of
it all. You know, we are tripart human beings, mind, body,
and spirit. Okay, these three components make up who we are,
and you can't extract one from the other. And you
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may think, Okay, I'm gonna just I don't want anything
to do with God. I'm going to sere my conscience,
which we're warned of in the Word of God not
to do that. You know, there's a huge consequence for that.
But there are people who have done that, and it's
these people that Charlie and I you know, pray for
it and then we hope that whatever it takes, that
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you would discover the truth, because it's not just the
medical industrial complex, it's not just the federal government, you know,
go on down the line. You know these three letter agencies.
You know what happened in the Ara of COVID, I mean,
the level of deception that took place. But you see,
the deal is is that when you buy in to
this big fat lie that truth doesn't exist, that it's relative,
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it opens up the door to deception. And we have
been deceived for decades here. And the reason I mean,
the reason I'm here behind this microphone I'm talking today
is a result of what I felt that God was
calling me to do, and that was to do a
show that was focused on the truth. And you've heard
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me talk with my good friend, doctor George Barnet, and
doctor George Barnet was instrumental in my early journey, you know,
to this end, and that was to pursue the truth,
no matter where it led. I felt like it was
so valuable that you know, that is our north star,
that everything should pivot off the truth, you know, regardless
of what they tell you in school. Just test it
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against the truth. What the doctors tell you, test it
against the truth, what your heart is telling you. What
does the truth say? And where do you find the truth? Okay?
And to me, in my journey of life, I've discovered
and I've been grateful for God's mercy. I've discovered that
the truth is anchored in God says, the fear of
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God is the beginning of all wisdom. Think about that.
I know some people say, oh, fear of God. You know,
like you, all of a sudden, some cosmic camera is
going to come down here. Now, there's a lot to
be understood about what you know what that means, you know,
the fear of God. It's it's a righteous fear. It's
understanding that you know all that component of who God
is in his character. He's a loving God. He loves you,
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he cares for you. I mean, he designed he designed
a world that would be good for us, but unfortunately
for the fall of man. And you go back to
the beginning in the book of Genesis. In the beginning,
God he created all this stuff for us. And after
his crowning achievement of creating man and women, he says, oh,
this is you know each day he would say, this
is God, this is good, this is good. But the
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last day, the sixth day before he rested, he goes,
this is really good, this is very good God himself.
God says this, not your neighbor, you know, not some
college counselor who doesn't think a whole lot of you,
or maybe a divorce attorney. Maybe we'll have fun. But regardless,
God says, hey, you're very good. And he created us.
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He created us in his image, in the image of God.
The triun Godfather's Son, and Holy Spirit were created in
that image. That's what makes us so precious. And when
you hold to that and understand, as I said earlier,
that you are connecting with somebody on this plane, in
this in this time spectrum. I mean, we are here
right now. You may think by some sort of cosmic accident,
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or you know, you think, okay, this is what God wanted.
I mean, think about it. I mean, that's huge to
think that you are here right now by God's design,
not because of your mother, your father, aunts and uncles
and all that kind of stuff, but because God himself said, hey,
I want you here right now, Charlie Kirk, I want
you here right now. And Charlie Kirk was given a
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huge mantle. And you know, as Erica said, as Charlie,
you know, went to be face to face with his
Lord and his Savior. You know, you know, Charlie heard
those words that every Christian wants to hear. Well done,
good and final good and faithful servant, Enter into my rest.
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I mean, that is so loaded with so much goodness. Again,
this speaks of God's love for us and how much
he cares for us. Enter in. You know, great job,
you did great. And the thing is is that it's
not just that God was saying that at that moment
you left your body and came to be in his presence.
All along the Bible says that Jesus is there next
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to the Father cheering us on, you know, going hey,
hey Dad, look, you know, look at what Rebel's doing.
Look at it and she awesome. You know, hey, she
got it, you know. And you know, look at Joe's doing,
and you know, and they're high five. I just see
him high five and in heaven on this and this
is all cool. You know, he's cheering us. He's cheering
us on because he told he told the apostles the
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apostles were like in wonderment, going, well, you know all
these miracles that you've done, this is incredible. And you
just said, hey, look at You're going to do even
greater things. And why could Jesus say, she said, because
I'm sitting next I'll be at the right hand of
the Father, and you will do even greater things. Pretty awesome, right,
And so here Jesus goes to the cross for us
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to neutralize, to pay the price of sin that we
all come into this world because this is a fallen world,
and this is why we need God. And I'm I'm
speaking this way to you because I'm concerned that even
though right now there's there's a resurgence. Interestingly enough, last weekend,
I'm told the number one book sales, the number one
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book to sell over the weekend was the Bible. No
doubt what happened in Utah resulted in this effect. The
other thing is is that people were complaining at church,
where's my parking space? I don't know, my parking space
is not there. You know, some some new, some new
me has come in and taken over my parking space.
Guys out there, aren't we silly? I mean, we're silly humanoids.
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You know, we want you know, we can talk about Jesus,
we talk about oh, we want everybody to go to heaven.
But don't take my parking space and get out of there.
That's my seat in the pew, you know, because that's
where I sit every Sunday. What are you doing sitting
in my seat. It's like, all of a sudden, we're
a bunch of Sheldons.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know what I'm talking about because Sheldon always had
his favorite spot on the couch. You can't sit in
the Sheldon spot. But you know, I'm sure God is
entertained by some of our silliness. But the deal is
is that, you know, right now we're at a time
when we can really I want to say, and I
say this with such honor and respect for Charlie, is
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that that he not have died in Vain. And I
know that it's been an encouragement all over the world.
I mean, you see what's going on. I mean Australia,
New Zealand, in Europe, you know, baseball games, Yeah, and
there's some knuckleheads out there, but by and large, I
mean it's like, okay, people are kind of getting it
and You've got a lot of people going to church
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right now seeking the truth. And and my prayer for
the church is that you don't compromise the truth. Okay,
the kids have been lied to, we've all been lied to. Enough,
give it to us straight. You don't need to, you know,
butter it up. You know that the truth is right there,
because that's why Jesus came to set us free. I mean,
think about it. I mean we talk about freedom here
in America, but we're talking about eternal free him that
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Jesus gave us. And when you are exposed to that,
it's so liberating. It's kind of like in a way,
why Charlie could do what he did, fearlessly go out
into the belly of the beast and you know, open
himself to attacks by people, people lying about him, and
he just held his calm, He held his peace, as
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the Word of God would say, you know, don't surrender
your peace, okay, sit in the peace of God, in
knowing that your destiny is assured. That God has called
you to do something, and what he called you to do,
he's going to He's going to outfit you, he's going
to prepare you know, everything that you need to get
that done. And I know you may say, look at well,
if God was really for Charlie Kirk, why was he assassinated?
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I'll tell you that that's the number one question that
was asked immediately. Why Well, you know, go back to
the book that Charlie was very engaged with on a
daily basis, and that is the word of God. And
the word of God will tell you what. Because because
evil's here, and you've heard me say this before, we
we just overlook evil. We really don't pay attention to it.
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And Evil loved that because it goes well, you know, hey,
they're not they're not paying attention. I can do whatever
I want to do. But see, if you know the
difference between good and evil, and your guard is up,
then you can stop evil before it even gets to
your door. All right, But if it's inconsequential to you
and you're too busy being a consumer, as my good
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friend Jeff Kemp would say, I love his expression of
that because I think it's our condition. It is our condition,
our country. We have been trained to be consumers everything.
It's about consuming, you know, our relationships. We consume our relationships.
It's not about what I can what I can do
to serve you? As Charlie would say, he would wake
up every morning and say, God, what can I do
for you? What? What? What do you want me to
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do for you? It wasn't that Charlie was coming and say, God,
hey I need this, I need more money because turning points,
you're trying to do this, we're trying to expand, and
then we got to you know, no, it's just God,
what do you what do you need from me? And
I think there's a lot that we can take away
from that is that in our relationships, you know, with
our wives and friends, you know, are we consuming them
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or are we looking, you know, to serve them? As
Jesus said, I mean, Jesus shows up at the Last
Supper with a towel and a basein of water, starts
washing the apostles feet and they're freaking out, WHOA, what's
going on here? Well, we can all look from that example,
which is all pointing to the eternal truth that we're
here to serve and not be served. And when we serve,
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that's when we're more most fulfilled. And I believe that
that's when you know, we're joyful, we're most free because
you know. I was when I was an adjunct professor
in southern California. I would share with the kids that
you know, when in living life, the things to consider
is particularly when you know you were working somewhere, because
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I used to try brain my salespeople and other people
that I work with on these principles. The number one,
you should enjoy what you're doing. You know, when you
consider that you're off to work eight ten hours a day,
at least, you know you should enjoy it. Right my dad,
you say, look at you find something you enjoy doing.
You don't, You'll never have to work for the rest
of your life. And for the most part in my career,
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I've been very, very blessed to enjoy what I'm doing,
So I say, look at, enjoy what you're doing. The
second thing is that you have to have a fair
chance to win, you know, so and buy that it's
not that you're winning at somebody else's expense, but that
you are accomplishing you're being productive. Okay, So, if you're
a you know, five foot seven inch basketball player and
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you want to be a center competing in the NBA,
probably not that good. Odds are you're not going to
have a fair chance to win. And you know, and
I used to tell people outside use the example that
if you were a brain search and if you're killing
nine out of ten people that you take the surgery,
probably need to find another gig, you know, So you
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got to have a fair chance to win with the
giftings and talents that God's blessed you with. And speaking
of which, the third issue is that with the giftings
and talents God's blessed you with, those have to be
exercised and grown. You want to see somebody who's frustrated,
I'll tell you. I can tell you in a couple
of minutes and find out that if they're wired in
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a certain way and that wiring is not being you know,
exercised and developed, boy, they'll be frustrated to no end.
And you know, when you look at the US labor
force that I found this to be quite interesting that
what it all comes down to is less than ten
percent of the US labor force has any sense of fulfillment.
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So nine out of ten people are cranky to no end.
I mean, it's no wonder when you go to a restaurant,
you know, you go someplace that requires some sort of service,
that it's not always the best experience, right. A lot
of people just aren't happy because they're miscasts. And I
get it for a season. Sometimes, you know, when tough
times fall and you say, okay, hey, look at I
got to go wash dishes because I got to put
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food on the table, I got to keep a roof
over my head. If I got to toss a hamburger
or two, I'm going to do whatever it takes. You know,
in the old days, you could be a Walmart greeter.
Now you can't even be a Walmart greater. But regardless,
you're going to do whatever it takes right in order
to do. And I get that for a short term,
but long term, you want to be doing something that
is consistent with the wiring, with the talents and gifts
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that you have so you can grow and develop them.
And I would say, look at if you enjoy what
you're doing, you have a fair chance to win. You're
winning more than you're losing. That the giftings and talents
that you have are being exercised and grown. I used
to say that that would give you the fourth component,
which is fulfillment, which I mentioned to you. Less than
ten percent of the US labor force. According to US
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labor studies, people have found themselves to be fulfilled. I
mean it's pretty sad, isn't it that you know, with
all the opportunities that are here, that you would have
such a small percentage of people that aren't you know,
aren't fulfilled, not happy. Well, And I will share this
with you as I'm in this classroom in southern California
and I'm giving this presentation to these young kids, uh,
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and one that I've given for many years. And all
of a sudden I get to the point and I'm
getting ready for the big denu mount of the expression.
You know, Okay, it's here. It is you know, it's
about fulfillment. And about that time, the spirit of God
downloads a new component and I told the kids. I
stopped and I said, hey, I got to tell you
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this is this is fresh. If I can be so
bold to say from the throne room of God, I
can't thank Good credit for this. This isn't me. This
is what God, I believe is impressing my spirit to
share with you. And that is the highest calling you
can have. Is freedom, not fulfillment, but freedom. Think about
that and it you know, when it hit me, I
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started thinking of all the ways in which, you know,
we enjoy freedom, all the ways in which our freedom
is compromised, you know, by bad decisions. You know, governmental entities,
people that want to consume you, not serve you, all
these things that collide with the issue of freedom and freedom.
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You know who gives us freedom, you know, Jesus himself
goes to the cross so that we could truly be free.
He paid the price for us. Yeah, that freedom, and
I mean it just it overwhelmed me. And even when
I think about it to this day, I think, how
lucky are we? How lucky are you? And I would
say that, you know, if you truly want to be free,
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I mean not free like way some of these professors
talk about it, I mean genuine freedom and all that
it represents, that where you can have true joy and
happiness in your life. That's where it begins. It begins
right there at the crossroads of the cross. And what
your decision will be. My prayer is that you would
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choose rightly and that you would really that all that
God has given us is there and that we can
make a difference, because I think right now we're on
the verge of another awakening of an incredible magnitude. Yes,
evil will still rain, no doubt about it. It always happens.
I mean that happens in the seventies when we had
a revival. I thought was quite interesting because we have
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the Jesus movement going on at the same time we
had woodstock, sex, drugs, rock and roll crazy. Huh. So
it's just the nature of the world. It's not like
it's all going to be one hundred percent, but at
least for you and your household, why not choose, choose
rightly and lean in to the word of God. Okay,
you bought the Bible, right lean into it. Yes, some
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of it can be difficult, but this is why I
recommend that you find a church that teaches the Bible,
that there's Bible studies. You associate with other people who
are seeking the truth and hold to the truth of God,
and they're not there in it for themselves with some
sort of prosperity message. And you know, this is the thing.
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I mean, it's like Jesus told the apostle, said, look it,
you're going to go out there. You're not going to
accept money. You went out you went out there without money.
You're not going to accept money, don't expect to be
paid and uh, and the Apostles were true to that issue.
And when you know, people did take care of them
and help them out, but they weren't sitting there, you know,
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being chauffeured around in some you know, beautiful chariot, you know,
going from city to city.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You know that should be a big warning sign for
you right away, is that's not That's not God's economy.
And I pray that you discover the truth, the truth
that will you know truly set you free. But I'll
tell you, uh, you know, we lost a good man
in Charlie Kirk. But I believe, you know, as the
Bible talks about that seed that goes to the ground,
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it must die. And the good news is when that
seed dies, it multiplies. And I believe that this is
going to is the future is the word for Turning
Point already, I mean this past weekend, I mean they
were about nine hundred chapters of Turning Point in universities
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across the country. Nine hundred they already had over the
weekend over thirty four hundred requests for new chapters. Now
thirty four thousand. I'm sorry, thirty four thousand. Okay, that
would cover just about every university in the United States.
So you know, the people are the kids are hungry
for it. And I think this is why Charlie Kirk
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was so received in some regards, because what happened it
validated a lot of these kids that were in these
classrooms being being indoctrinated, and they realized there's something some
not fitting here, some not right. And so you have
a truth bearer who comes to the campus and he
spoke eloquently, He debated with a true concern of the
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people he was debating with out of respect. Not once
did I ever see him get upset and pitch a
fit and throw a microphone at him or anything. You know,
he was consistently respectful because again, who was he seeing? Imajodo?
Another humanoid just like you and me, made in the
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image of God, and he respected them well. As we
wrap things up, I want to play for you a
video the Turning Point has put out which casts the
vision and again kind of helps summarize the story of
what happened last week. Go ahead, play it. Now.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We're acting in about fifteen campuses, and we're growing very
very quickly, and keep in mind this is not just
a flash in the pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand up and let their voice be heard. I
started this organization when I was eighteen years old. I
decided not to go to college. I didn't get in
my dream school, which was the United States Military Academy
at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and
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motivate the future youth of this country around a core
set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians. And
the ideas are really America is the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitutions, the greatest political document
ever written in free enterprise, the most sured way to
lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's something.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That can win.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
We as Christians are called to go into the public
arena to correct error with truth. So I go to
college campuses and there's a lot of error. We're all sinners,
we are all living error. I'm far more interested in
what God wants of me than what I want from God.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen obviously his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle
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except for myself and our children fall and the sacrifices
that he made this year. He's amazing.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm very blessing and I would not have been able
to do any of it without Erica. And that's the
real truth. I'll tell you what you are here as
a grassroots response to the top down revolution happening in
this country. I want our Turning Point USA students to
receive a round of applause. These are the freedom fighters
of America.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game. They weren't experienced, They didn't know. Charlie right.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation
is the most conservative generation that we have seen and
well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What
young people especially are screaming at is they say, give
me a structure that I can live my life by,
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and especially with young men, more challenging of them more
saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk
down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.
You want to learn what that means. Come to church
and I'll tell you what it means to become a
man because we have the greatest story ever told. What
can I do to save the country? You answer that
question every single day because you are doing the work
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to save this beautiful republic. You are doing something that
is bigger than you.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
If everything completely goes away, how do you want to
be remembered?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
courage from my faith. That would be the most important thing.
Most important thing is my faith in my life.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And it puts it all in perspective, doesn't it. Charlie
Charley Kirk right there, we're are you know, our appreciation
a turning point, and I know that God has great
plans for turning point going forward. And the legacy of
one Charlie Kurt. He uh changed a lot of lives
and and this will have a generational impact. This will
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go on because of his faithfulness to his God, the
faithfulness to his mission, and his faithfulness to those that
he served and we will be eternally grateful for Charlie Kirk.
Thank you for being with us. May God bless you,
May He keep you, May He make his face shine
upon you. May He be gracious unto you, and may
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you experience his peace. God bless Pretty b
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Well, good afternoon, glad you could join us. I'm Bill
Martinez and we're going to talk about the legacy of
Charles Charles James Kirk. You know, my wife pointed out
that James Kirk must have been his parents must have
been Star Trek fans. I don't know that for a fact,
but you know, it just kind of just sticks out
that his middle name was James, and of course hurt,
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you know, why not. But anyway, a lot to discuss
about Charlie. It's it's kind of hard to imagine here's
a fellow citizen who loved this country and wanted the
best for each of us to be treated in the
manner which he's been treated. Yes, I get greatly honored,
not only here in the United States but around the world,
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which just says something about this thirty one year old,
I guess, iconic generational figure. Many have thought that. In fact,
my good friend Dennis Brager, and I'm going to read
an email from him in just a moment, said that
Charlie was probably on a trajectory to become a potential
presidential candidate down the road. And I think Dennis is
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spot on with that, you know, with that consideration, because
he was just he was just so sharp. And I
know the kids, you know where he went to, you know,
in these universities, some of the kids would make fun
of him because he didn't have a degree. And then
he challenged the head and you know, asked him, you know,
a Socratic question, you know, well, how's this, how's this
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working out for you? Is your future look bright? Do
you look like you're going to be very successful with
your degree? You know, because there's lots of other people
ahead of you right now that aren't doing too well
with degrees. And Charlie, when he went to a school
and went to college, I think he maybe a semester
maybe somewhere, maybe most was the year. I think anyway,
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he realized that it just didn't fit, it wasn't for him.
And so has he declared himself he's he's self taught
and no question about it that he is uber intellectual.
He has the IQ and he was also just of
an incredible inquiring mind. Bill Fetterer another dear friend. In fact,
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I'm doing a show tomorrow with Bill on our Daily
Show at Bill Martinez Show dot com. You can tune
in for that because he'll be on for the whole hour.
We're going to talk about constitution and Constitution Day you
know this week, by the way, in case you didn't
know or forgot, a critical day I believe in our
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nation's history is to understand the Constitution. When there's so
many people that don't, you know, even with the people,
there's a result we're left ignorant and we're left in
a position to be manipulated because we don't know when
we fail to understand the dynamics of the Constitution how
to protect us now, to protect one another. And so anyway,
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we're going to talk about that, but more specifically, we're
going to spend some time in talking about Charlie Kirk.
Bill and Charlie were very very close, communicated on a
weekly basis, emails back and forth, and Bill, you know,
shares those emails with us, and you know, so needless
to say, there's a good portion of the country that
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is still in shock and processing you know what happened.
You know, how how could this happen? You know? And
I can tell you in many ways, Charlie and I
were very much aligned. You know, our love for country,
I love for the Constitution, but more importantly is our
love for Jesus Christ and our faith. And I think
this is one of the things that a lot of
people didn't quite understand about Charlie. What what drove him
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and what made him so effective, And it started with
his heart. He had a pure heart, and his heart
was you know, toward people looking at them like the
Bible says, made in the image of God. When you
consider another person that your eye to eye with and
having a conversation that they're made in the image of God.
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You know, there's no class structure here. You know, as
one theologian said, I have never as a result of that,
he says, I've never met a mere mortal, and I
can tell you I tried to live my life that way.
I've tried to live my life in such a way
that I didn't look at somebody in a less than position.
And I don't know, maybe because where I was raised,
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and you know, the family that I came from. You
know my parents, he had actually their grandparents had immigrated
to the United States, and my dad served in World
War Two. He was with Patent and the European Theater
at the Battle of the Bulge. He was a medic.
Three of his sons, including myself and my two other brothers,
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served in the military during the Vietnam War. My number
two brother was more in the in the heat of it.
He was in combat. My oldest brother was a staff sergeant.
I think about as closely got to it was the
Nang And then I ended up. You know, I'd have
been the third brother. It's like saving Private Ryan right
and his things would work out. Because of my broadcasting career,
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I ended up doing Good Morning Camp Pendleton. You may
have heard me relate that story before, so I tell people, yeah,
I did Good Morning Camp Pendleton. Not quite as funny
as Robin Williams, and certainly if I'd have been anywhere
close to funny as funny as Robin Williams. I'd had
been kicked out of the Marine Corps. But you know,
I was blessed to serve the country, and it was
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my honor to do that, as it is for anybody
that serves our country in the military. It's an absolute honor.
And and we're grateful. We're grateful that people will say, hey,
thank you for your service, and it's very very kind
and respectful, uh to honor and uh and I you know,
for me, I mean, you know, I I honor you know,
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our fellow veterans, especially those that fought in combat. And
thank god, it's such a small percentage, but nonetheless, uh,
you know, we lost some uh that were kiad Uh,
some that are still a live today, but you know
carry the wounds of Vietnam as they do in other
wars that have happened since then. And so anyway, that's
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that's all part of my heart. But getting back to
Charlie's position, and this is something that people, you know,
unless you're unless you're a faith it may you may
not understand the context and why Charlie was so humble
and uh. And also why you know, people were so
quick to kind of put words in his mouth and
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to assign assigned to him some sort of ideology that was,
you know, first from the truth in my in my
humble opinion. I mean, you may have disagreed with him,
and that's okay. I think that that's important. It's the
first amendment, right, I mean, of all amendments. I mean,
why would that be the first amendment? You know, our
founding fathers realized that freedom of speech and was so
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critical to the advancement of Western civilization that we must
be open to have conversation. If we're canceling one another,
then you know, you may have heard me say this before,
is we render ourselves stupid. It's it's very uneducated, you know,
to to do that, to cancel somebody, not listen to them.
As my father used to say, you know, you need
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to listen to the other side because you don't know
what part of the puzzle that you're missing that could
fit and just makes sense all of a sudden, you know,
light bulbs go on. You know what I'm talking about,
and it makes sense and and maybe and and the
deal is, I got to tell you I have to
left because I still hear my father telling me this,
and you know that, hey, just slow down, be patient,
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listen to what the person is saying. And you'd also say,
listen to their heart. And because you can get a
lot from listening to another person's heart. You can you
can hear their pain, you can feel their pain and
uh and and that stuff that maybe you know, agitating
you and annoying you. It's it's out of their pain.
But if we think, you know, that it's against us
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and it's our responsibility, which it isn't. You know, you're
not there, you're not the you're not the cause of it.
You're just kind of associated with it because you happen
to take a position that right now they perceive, you know,
is real pain for them. And all that's fine. But
you know, if if you talk it out, and I
can say in those cases when I've been able to
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be successful in doing that, you sense the temperature goes down,
there's calm uh, there's an understanding between both sides that
elevates the conversation and achieves a better solution. And that's
why we've maintained on this show that our goal is
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not about parties, not about the Democrat Party or Republican Party.
I think this is one of the worst things that
our country. And we were warned, our founding fathers warned us,
and George Washington is that party is going to be
the end of us soon as we have parties and
it's us against them, it's the red shirts against the
blue shirts, or you know, kind of deal and you're
at each other's throats and it's all a competitive deal,
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and you lose sight of what's most important. What's most
important is this great American idea that is right there
in the Declaration of Independence in our constitution, that lays
out the rules of play in which all of us
can be successful and attain things that are beyond our imagination.
I mean, this is why people want to come to
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this country because of the opportunity that is here and
that needs to be protected. And is saying in course
thing is that we protect that in such a way
so that it's not an orchestrated equity, because as soon
as you do that, then you you've screwed everything up
because it's no longer equitable. You want, you want to
have a fair shot at it, and that's that's the
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critical thing. And you know, Charlie, believe in that. I
believe in that. I believe that that's what makes things
things fair, is that you have a fair shot that
to exercise the giftings and talents that God has blessed
you with, because I think one of the biggest frustrating
things is for you to be having a talent and
it'll wake you up in the middle of the night
and frustrate the Holy what have you? Autio. Or if
you're working for another organization and you're what I characterize
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a round peg in a square hole, well, those those
friction points, because those where you're not fitting and you
get these friction points going on, that just agitates you
to no end and you're not a fun employee to
work with, right and uh and on many levels, you know,
because when you go and work for an organization, not
only do you want this organization as a seed, but
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you want those around you to succeed and to be elevated.
And if you're working together, then you can elevate one
another and be able to do a lot more together
than you can apart. And I've been blessed in several
occasions in my life to work with organizations and be
able to exercise that philosophy. And I can tell you
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when we did that, we were extremely successful. Everybody on
the team was blessed. They you know, surpassed their economic
goals and their earning goals and that It was a
lot of lot of fun. But for me, the biggest
fun for me was to watch them grow and watch
them accept one another, to really be a team as
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diverse as it was. You know, we had a good
mix of you know, men and women from you know
races and you know, different races and that, and you know,
here's here, here I am, you know, blessed to lead
the team, and it was such an honor. But our
attitude was that, look at we're going to respect one another.
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We were going to come alongside one another and do
what we could to help one another. And everybody won
that way. So again, my philosophy is like Charlie's was,
was that it was you know, for the good of
all concern. And what made it good was because it
started with the word of God. You know, words matter,
and these I say to these people, and this isn't
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you know the first time we've talked about this, because
I've been warning, been warning you for the last couple
of years, the rhetoric was getting amped up in such
a way that somebody was going to get hurt. And
you cannot tell me that the assassination of you know,
Charlie Kirk was just coincidental. They had nothing to do
with the sentiment and the words that were put out there,
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you know, people calling him a fascist, like, how do
you how do you come up with that? I mean,
I've watched a lot Charlie Kirk's videos and there's not
any one time that I could come around and come
away from and say, oh, you know, he's overstepped. It's
he's a fascist. You know. But we use these terms
so loosely, and we assign them to our opponents in
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such a way that it is dangerous. It's it's worse
than yelling, you know, fire in a crowded theater. It's worse.
And this has been going on for a long time.
And I agree with the Vice President, you know that
it seems to be coming more from one side and
the other, and I get it. The general context is,
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you know, we say, well, you know, what happens on
both sides, you know, because we're trying to be fair minded.
I guess but when you don't place blame where it
needs to be placed, then the people that deserve the
blame are somewhat exonerated. And I said this the other day,
is that because consequences are dulled out in a universal
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way and done so to ameliate the offense, the person
that deserves the consequence doesn't feel the full brunt of
their actions. That makes sense, Hey, it's somewhat ameliated. It's
homogenized in such a way it softens the blow. Well,
by softening the blow, we reduce the effectiveness of you know,
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of the consequence. And as a result, you know, like
we've had here in our country. In some states, it's
okay to steal up to one thousand dollars worth of
worth of goods, no arm, no foul, you need jews
the intentions, go steal them. You know you need you
need a dress, Go steal the dress. Okay, you're not
going to go to jail. So right, some of these
it's insane, right, I mean, how do you live that?
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It's just you know, it's it's uncivil. It's nonsense, you know,
because I can't even imagine even if you got away
with it in the short time that your conscience said
some point wouldn't catch up with you, or that maybe
you'd run out of you know, those thousand dollars. I
don't know, opportunities or whatever. You know, you might slip
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over and oh, well, you know you got eleven hundred
dollars worth or I don't know. It's just it's all absurd.
And what's happening is you've got stores as a result
in these local communities that serve these local communities, you
know they're moving out. Yeah, they got upset and they
you know, tired of losing money. I mean it's very painful.
And you know they lock up stuff. You go in,
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you go, I just wanted to, you know, to a toothpaste.
Oh you got to go. You got to wait for
somebody to come in with a key unlocked, you know,
the unlocked the shelf so you can get your tube
of toothpaste. I mean, this is America. Are you kidding me?
This is what's come down to. And the thing is
is that, you know, quit fooling yourself. Look at who
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the perpetrators are. And I know, you know, people don't
want to admit it. They don't want to you know,
say it, just like they don't want to say, well,
you know, all this rhetoric and everything is coming from
one political spectrum. You know, when I was in political
science classes in college, you know, we talked about the
lunatic fringe. Well, you know, we're living with the lunatic fringe,
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and they are picking crazy, crazy to such a degree
that they would justify murdering murdering a figure, a generational
figure like Charlie Kirk, and it didn't even have to
be Charlie, could be anybody. And these murders are happening,
you know, are across our country, and we sit there
and we look at what happens in Chicago, for example.
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Oh you know, it's like it's not that bad, well,
not that bad for you because one of your kids
wasn't one of the six or eight people that got killed,
all right, And every weekend this keeps on happening. I mean,
it's almost like, you know, speaking of Vietnam, it's almost
like we've become numb to it. You know. I remember
when I was growing up, and you know, before you know,
I went in the military, we'd get these body counts
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and these casualty reports every night, right, and it just
got to be like it was just part of the
TV set. It became meaningless, and he realized that, wow,
you know we're talking you know, we're talking a lot
lot of people, hundreds of thousands of young kids, you
know my age, younger even you know that are going
in there and they're no more and you know, in
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their families, and like we we had reported here a
couple of weeks ago with George Lutz, you know, for them,
every day's Memorial Day. You know, this is why we're
supporting you know, the Honor Flag, the Honor and Tribute
Flag that George Lutz has created in this campaign because
you know, we want to support these these families who
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have lost a loved one in military service and they're
gone forever, I mean, for the rest of their lives.
The family will be caring that whole in their heart
of their loved one, you know, these these gold Star families.
So you know, this is this is part of the
fabric of America. And you know, whether it's Charlie Kirk
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or over what two million casualties we've had of people
who have bravely gone forth to the end our constitution
to defend our freedoms. You know, we owe it to
them to preserve you know, to preserve this this country's
democratic republic, you know, as was asked of as you
recall Benjamin Franklin after one of the conventions, a woman
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asked him says, okay, well, what kind of what kind
of government do we have here? He's as well, lady,
you know, a democratic republic if you can keep it.
And I mean, how profound that word? You know, that
response was, if you can keep it? I mean, because
you know we have the left and the Democratic Party
particularly stringing and yelling about democracy is being threatened. Well,
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I think they got to part partly right. First of all,
it's a democratic republic, not a democracy. So again words matter, right,
So we need to put it in proper perspective. The
democratic republic is being threatened. But who's threatening it? Not
somebody who's a determined boogeyman? You know, like here you
got mom, Donnie who Now Kathy Hokele, the governor of
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New York, is decided to indoors who says he's going
to be Donald Trump's worst nightmare. The guy's the mayor
of New York. How is he going to be Donald
Trump's worst nightmare? I think Donald Trump at the federal level,
and with all the monies they can or cannot be
sent to New York because they need help. I mean,
I think that he's more in a position to be
a night bigger nightmare for Mom Donnie than the other
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way around. And just like with Letitia James, you know, saying, well, okay,
I'm going to go and you know, elect me because
I'm going to go after Donald Trump. I mean, really,
this is the kind of political environment in which we
want to live in. And then they wonder why, Okay,
you know, they were all concerned good retribution. You know, Oh,
Donald Trump's going to get back to these people. Well,
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in part again going back to what I said earlier
about consequences, if people don't pay the consequences for the
damage that they've done, then they just keep on doing
it or it's just it's acceptable, and it becomes and
then what happens the next time the offense is even worse.
And that's what's happened, and gradually over the decades, is
that the type of you know, voter fraud, the type
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of law fair you know, the type of you know,
political manipulation and meanness, it just keeps amping up and
no consequence is paid figure. Okay, just get away with it,
and until finally what happens, All hell breaks loose and
now we've got serious problems, and you know, some people
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are going to be shocked. And it's almost like you
remember the abortion doctor Godsnell, right, he was just shocked.
He couldn't believe that he was going to go to
jail for conducting abortions and selling baby parts and doing
all that. He was just shocked because it had been
going on for so long and everybody's kind of doing it.
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And guess what. One of the things he said to
I was a faalum, I believe, and they were in
a meeting said hey, you know a couple of years,
I mean, this is nothing because it'll be acceptable. And
I remember when she relayed that story to me, and
I thought, wow, is this is this the trajectory of
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our society that we would think so little of life
that you know, aborting babies, selling baby parts, you know,
organ harvesting and all that is all acceptable. I mean,
we have we're pretty much there, sadly what we've done
to those who cannot defend themselves, the unborn, and I
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mean it's a sad commentary on our society. But again,
you know, getting back to Charlie Kirk, and what we
believe in is that, you know, we believe life is paramount.
It is a gift of God and that needs to
be held in the utmost of respect because it sets
the condition for society. You know, Mother Teresa said that
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in so many words, that a nation that doesn't respect
life is a nation that is just doomed. And we
have gotten away with this for a long time. Again,
consequences aren't there, you know, some of the consequences are hidden.
And I believe this is why Roe v. Wade went
back to the States because the women, although some of
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them spoke out quite courageously about saying, look at the doctor's,
the whole medical industry lied to me, like you've not
heard that anymore, and you haven't been hearing a lot
of that lately. How the the big pharma and medical
industrial complex, how they've misrepresented and lied to us. Well,
the women who have gone through these abortions have realized
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that it's not just a you know, a clump of
cells that you can cut out and have no impact,
no meaning, you know, and I think you still I
was watching some actress the other day and claiming that
she's had something like forty three abortions and she was
proud of it. I don't know how our body could
handle forty three abortions, so I think she's a bit hyperbolic.
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But regardless, it's like, wow, I mean, how cold hearted
you have to be and how irresponsible do you have
to be to keep getting pregnant and feel like, you know,
the best form of birth control in your orbit is
just to abort and kill that child. And society doesn't
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get away with that without some consequence. Because the thing
is is that which started the conversation, is that you
have to look at this from the spiritual component of
it all. You know, we are tripart human beings, mind, body,
and spirit. Okay, these three components make up who we are,
and you can't extract one from the other. And you
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may think, Okay, I'm gonna just I don't want anything
to do with God. I'm going to sere my conscience,
which we're warned of in the Word of God not
to do that. You know, there's a huge consequence for that.
But there are people who have done that, and it's
these people that Charlie and I you know, pray for
it and then we hope that whatever it takes, that
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you would discover the truth, because it's not just the
medical industrial complex, it's not just the federal government, you know,
go on down the line. You know these three letter agencies.
You know what happened in the Ara of COVID, I mean,
the level of deception that took place. But you see,
the deal is is that when you buy in to
this big fat lie that truth doesn't exist, that it's relative,
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it opens up the door to deception. And we have
been deceived for decades here. And the reason I mean,
the reason I'm here behind this microphone I'm talking today
is a result of what I felt that God was
calling me to do, and that was to do a
show that was focused on the truth. And you've heard
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me talk with my good friend, doctor George Barnet, and
doctor George Barnet was instrumental in my early journey, you know,
to this end, and that was to pursue the truth,
no matter where it led. I felt like it was
so valuable that you know, that is our north star,
that everything should pivot off the truth, you know, regardless
of what they tell you in school. Just test it
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against the truth. What the doctors tell you, test it
against the truth, what your heart is telling you. What
does the truth say? And where do you find the truth? Okay?
And to me, in my journey of life, I've discovered
and I've been grateful for God's mercy. I've discovered that
the truth is anchored in God says, the fear of
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God is the beginning of all wisdom. Think about that.
I know some people say, oh, fear of God. You know,
like you, all of a sudden, some cosmic camera is
going to come down here. Now, there's a lot to
be understood about what you know what that means, you know,
the fear of God. It's it's a righteous fear. It's
understanding that you know all that component of who God
is in his character. He's a loving God. He loves you,
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he cares for you. I mean, he designed he designed
a world that would be good for us, but unfortunately
for the fall of man. And you go back to
the beginning in the book of Genesis. In the beginning,
God he created all this stuff for us. And after
his crowning achievement of creating man and women, he says, oh,
this is you know each day he would say, this
is God, this is good, this is good. But the
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last day, the sixth day before he rested, he goes,
this is really good, this is very good God himself.
God says this, not your neighbor, you know, not some
college counselor who doesn't think a whole lot of you,
or maybe a divorce attorney. Maybe we'll have fun. But regardless,
God says, hey, you're very good. And he created us.
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He created us in his image, in the image of God.
The triun Godfather's Son, and Holy Spirit were created in
that image. That's what makes us so precious. And when
you hold to that and understand, as I said earlier,
that you are connecting with somebody on this plane, in
this in this time spectrum. I mean, we are here
right now. You may think by some sort of cosmic accident,
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or you know, you think, okay, this is what God wanted.
I mean, think about it. I mean, that's huge to
think that you are here right now by God's design,
not because of your mother, your father, aunts and uncles
and all that kind of stuff, but because God himself said, hey,
I want you here right now, Charlie Kirk, I want
you here right now. And Charlie Kirk was given a
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huge mantle. And you know, as Erica said, as Charlie,
you know, went to be face to face with his
Lord and his Savior. You know, you know, Charlie heard
those words that every Christian wants to hear. Well done,
good and final good and faithful servant, Enter into my rest.
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I mean, that is so loaded with so much goodness. Again,
this speaks of God's love for us and how much
he cares for us. Enter in. You know, great job,
you did great. And the thing is is that it's
not just that God was saying that at that moment
you left your body and came to be in his presence.
All along the Bible says that Jesus is there next
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to the Father cheering us on, you know, going hey,
hey Dad, look, you know, look at what Rebel's doing.
Look at it and she awesome. You know, hey, she
got it, you know. And you know, look at Joe's doing,
and you know, and they're high five. I just see
him high five and in heaven on this and this
is all cool. You know, he's cheering us. He's cheering
us on because he told he told the apostles the
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apostles were like in wonderment, going, well, you know all
these miracles that you've done, this is incredible. And you
just said, hey, look at You're going to do even
greater things. And why could Jesus say, she said, because
I'm sitting next I'll be at the right hand of
the Father, and you will do even greater things. Pretty awesome, right,
And so here Jesus goes to the cross for us
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to neutralize, to pay the price of sin that we
all come into this world because this is a fallen world,
and this is why we need God. And I'm I'm
speaking this way to you because I'm concerned that even
though right now there's there's a resurgence. Interestingly enough, last weekend,
I'm told the number one book sales, the number one
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book to sell over the weekend was the Bible. No
doubt what happened in Utah resulted in this effect. The
other thing is is that people were complaining at church,
where's my parking space? I don't know, my parking space
is not there. You know, some some new, some new
me has come in and taken over my parking space.
Guys out there, aren't we silly? I mean, we're silly humanoids.
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You know, we want you know, we can talk about Jesus,
we talk about oh, we want everybody to go to heaven.
But don't take my parking space and get out of there.
That's my seat in the pew, you know, because that's
where I sit every Sunday. What are you doing sitting
in my seat. It's like, all of a sudden, we're
a bunch of Sheldons.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know what I'm talking about because Sheldon always had
his favorite spot on the couch. You can't sit in
the Sheldon spot. But you know, I'm sure God is
entertained by some of our silliness. But the deal is
is that, you know, right now we're at a time
when we can really I want to say, and I
say this with such honor and respect for Charlie, is
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that that he not have died in Vain. And I
know that it's been an encouragement all over the world.
I mean, you see what's going on. I mean Australia,
New Zealand, in Europe, you know, baseball games, Yeah, and
there's some knuckleheads out there, but by and large, I
mean it's like, okay, people are kind of getting it
and You've got a lot of people going to church
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right now seeking the truth. And and my prayer for
the church is that you don't compromise the truth. Okay,
the kids have been lied to, we've all been lied to. Enough,
give it to us straight. You don't need to, you know,
butter it up. You know that the truth is right there,
because that's why Jesus came to set us free. I mean,
think about it. I mean we talk about freedom here
in America, but we're talking about eternal free him that
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Jesus gave us. And when you are exposed to that,
it's so liberating. It's kind of like in a way,
why Charlie could do what he did, fearlessly go out
into the belly of the beast and you know, open
himself to attacks by people, people lying about him, and
he just held his calm, He held his peace, as
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the Word of God would say, you know, don't surrender
your peace, okay, sit in the peace of God, in
knowing that your destiny is assured. That God has called
you to do something, and what he called you to do,
he's going to He's going to outfit you, he's going
to prepare you know, everything that you need to get
that done. And I know you may say, look at well,
if God was really for Charlie Kirk, why was he assassinated?
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I'll tell you that that's the number one question that
was asked immediately. Why Well, you know, go back to
the book that Charlie was very engaged with on a
daily basis, and that is the word of God. And
the word of God will tell you what. Because because
evil's here, and you've heard me say this before, we
we just overlook evil. We really don't pay attention to it.
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And Evil loved that because it goes well, you know, hey,
they're not they're not paying attention. I can do whatever
I want to do. But see, if you know the
difference between good and evil, and your guard is up,
then you can stop evil before it even gets to
your door. All right, But if it's inconsequential to you
and you're too busy being a consumer, as my good
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friend Jeff Kemp would say, I love his expression of
that because I think it's our condition. It is our condition,
our country. We have been trained to be consumers everything.
It's about consuming, you know, our relationships. We consume our relationships.
It's not about what I can what I can do
to serve you? As Charlie would say, he would wake
up every morning and say, God, what can I do
for you? What? What? What do you want me to
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do for you? It wasn't that Charlie was coming and say, God,
hey I need this, I need more money because turning points,
you're trying to do this, we're trying to expand, and
then we got to you know, no, it's just God,
what do you what do you need from me? And
I think there's a lot that we can take away
from that is that in our relationships, you know, with
our wives and friends, you know, are we consuming them
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or are we looking, you know, to serve them? As
Jesus said, I mean, Jesus shows up at the Last
Supper with a towel and a basein of water, starts
washing the apostles feet and they're freaking out, WHOA, what's
going on here? Well, we can all look from that example,
which is all pointing to the eternal truth that we're
here to serve and not be served. And when we serve,
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that's when we're more most fulfilled. And I believe that
that's when you know, we're joyful, we're most free because
you know. I was when I was an adjunct professor
in southern California. I would share with the kids that
you know, when in living life, the things to consider
is particularly when you know you were working somewhere, because
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I used to try brain my salespeople and other people
that I work with on these principles. The number one,
you should enjoy what you're doing. You know, when you
consider that you're off to work eight ten hours a day,
at least, you know you should enjoy it. Right my dad,
you say, look at you find something you enjoy doing.
You don't, You'll never have to work for the rest
of your life. And for the most part in my career,
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I've been very, very blessed to enjoy what I'm doing,
So I say, look at, enjoy what you're doing. The
second thing is that you have to have a fair
chance to win, you know, so and buy that it's
not that you're winning at somebody else's expense, but that
you are accomplishing you're being productive. Okay, So, if you're
a you know, five foot seven inch basketball player and
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you want to be a center competing in the NBA,
probably not that good. Odds are you're not going to
have a fair chance to win. And you know, and
I used to tell people outside use the example that
if you were a brain search and if you're killing
nine out of ten people that you take the surgery,
probably need to find another gig, you know, So you
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got to have a fair chance to win with the
giftings and talents that God's blessed you with. And speaking
of which, the third issue is that with the giftings
and talents God's blessed you with, those have to be
exercised and grown. You want to see somebody who's frustrated,
I'll tell you. I can tell you in a couple
of minutes and find out that if they're wired in
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a certain way and that wiring is not being you know,
exercised and developed, boy, they'll be frustrated to no end.
And you know, when you look at the US labor
force that I found this to be quite interesting that
what it all comes down to is less than ten
percent of the US labor force has any sense of fulfillment.
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So nine out of ten people are cranky to no end.
I mean, it's no wonder when you go to a restaurant,
you know, you go someplace that requires some sort of service,
that it's not always the best experience, right. A lot
of people just aren't happy because they're miscasts. And I
get it for a season. Sometimes, you know, when tough
times fall and you say, okay, hey, look at I
got to go wash dishes because I got to put
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food on the table, I got to keep a roof
over my head. If I got to toss a hamburger
or two, I'm going to do whatever it takes. You know,
in the old days, you could be a Walmart greeter.
Now you can't even be a Walmart greater. But regardless,
you're going to do whatever it takes right in order
to do. And I get that for a short term,
but long term, you want to be doing something that
is consistent with the wiring, with the talents and gifts
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that you have so you can grow and develop them.
And I would say, look at if you enjoy what
you're doing, you have a fair chance to win. You're
winning more than you're losing. That the giftings and talents
that you have are being exercised and grown. I used
to say that that would give you the fourth component,
which is fulfillment, which I mentioned to you. Less than
ten percent of the US labor force. According to US
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labor studies, people have found themselves to be fulfilled. I
mean it's pretty sad, isn't it that you know, with
all the opportunities that are here, that you would have
such a small percentage of people that aren't you know,
aren't fulfilled, not happy. Well, And I will share this
with you as I'm in this classroom in southern California
and I'm giving this presentation to these young kids, uh,
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and one that I've given for many years. And all
of a sudden I get to the point and I'm
getting ready for the big denu mount of the expression.
You know, Okay, it's here. It is you know, it's
about fulfillment. And about that time, the spirit of God
downloads a new component and I told the kids. I
stopped and I said, hey, I got to tell you
(37:34):
this is this is fresh. If I can be so
bold to say from the throne room of God, I
can't thank Good credit for this. This isn't me. This
is what God, I believe is impressing my spirit to
share with you. And that is the highest calling you
can have. Is freedom, not fulfillment, but freedom. Think about
that and it you know, when it hit me, I
(37:54):
started thinking of all the ways in which, you know,
we enjoy freedom, all the ways in which our freedom
is compromised, you know, by bad decisions. You know, governmental entities,
people that want to consume you, not serve you, all
these things that collide with the issue of freedom and freedom.
(38:15):
You know who gives us freedom, you know, Jesus himself
goes to the cross so that we could truly be free.
He paid the price for us. Yeah, that freedom, and
I mean it just it overwhelmed me. And even when
I think about it to this day, I think, how
lucky are we? How lucky are you? And I would
say that, you know, if you truly want to be free,
(38:37):
I mean not free like way some of these professors
talk about it, I mean genuine freedom and all that
it represents, that where you can have true joy and
happiness in your life. That's where it begins. It begins
right there at the crossroads of the cross. And what
your decision will be. My prayer is that you would
(38:58):
choose rightly and that you would really that all that
God has given us is there and that we can
make a difference, because I think right now we're on
the verge of another awakening of an incredible magnitude. Yes,
evil will still rain, no doubt about it. It always happens.
I mean that happens in the seventies when we had
a revival. I thought was quite interesting because we have
(39:20):
the Jesus movement going on at the same time we
had woodstock, sex, drugs, rock and roll crazy. Huh. So
it's just the nature of the world. It's not like
it's all going to be one hundred percent, but at
least for you and your household, why not choose, choose
rightly and lean in to the word of God. Okay,
you bought the Bible, right lean into it. Yes, some
(39:43):
of it can be difficult, but this is why I
recommend that you find a church that teaches the Bible,
that there's Bible studies. You associate with other people who
are seeking the truth and hold to the truth of God,
and they're not there in it for themselves with some
sort of prosperity message. And you know, this is the thing.
(40:06):
I mean, it's like Jesus told the apostle, said, look it,
you're going to go out there. You're not going to
accept money. You went out you went out there without money.
You're not going to accept money, don't expect to be
paid and uh, and the Apostles were true to that issue.
And when you know, people did take care of them
and help them out, but they weren't sitting there, you know,
(40:27):
being chauffeured around in some you know, beautiful chariot, you know,
going from city to city.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
You know that should be a big warning sign for
you right away, is that's not That's not God's economy.
And I pray that you discover the truth, the truth
that will you know truly set you free. But I'll
tell you, uh, you know, we lost a good man
in Charlie Kirk. But I believe, you know, as the
Bible talks about that seed that goes to the ground,
(40:57):
it must die. And the good news is when that
seed dies, it multiplies. And I believe that this is
going to is the future is the word for Turning
Point already, I mean this past weekend, I mean they
were about nine hundred chapters of Turning Point in universities
(41:18):
across the country. Nine hundred they already had over the
weekend over thirty four hundred requests for new chapters. Now
thirty four thousand. I'm sorry, thirty four thousand. Okay, that
would cover just about every university in the United States.
So you know, the people are the kids are hungry
for it. And I think this is why Charlie Kirk
(41:38):
was so received in some regards, because what happened it
validated a lot of these kids that were in these
classrooms being being indoctrinated, and they realized there's something some
not fitting here, some not right. And so you have
a truth bearer who comes to the campus and he
spoke eloquently, He debated with a true concern of the
(42:03):
people he was debating with out of respect. Not once
did I ever see him get upset and pitch a
fit and throw a microphone at him or anything. You know,
he was consistently respectful because again, who was he seeing? Imajodo?
Another humanoid just like you and me, made in the
(42:24):
image of God, and he respected them well. As we
wrap things up, I want to play for you a
video the Turning Point has put out which casts the
vision and again kind of helps summarize the story of
what happened last week. Go ahead, play it. Now.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
We're acting in about fifteen campuses, and we're growing very
very quickly, and keep in mind this is not just
a flash in the pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand up and let their voice be heard. I
started this organization when I was eighteen years old. I
decided not to go to college. I didn't get in
my dream school, which was the United States Military Academy
at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and
(43:10):
motivate the future youth of this country around a core
set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians. And
the ideas are really America is the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitutions, the greatest political document
ever written in free enterprise, the most sured way to
lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's something.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
That can win.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
We as Christians are called to go into the public
arena to correct error with truth. So I go to
college campuses and there's a lot of error. We're all sinners,
we are all living error. I'm far more interested in
what God wants of me than what I want from God.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen obviously his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle
(44:12):
except for myself and our children fall and the sacrifices
that he made this year. He's amazing.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm very blessing and I would not have been able
to do any of it without Erica. And that's the
real truth. I'll tell you what you are here as
a grassroots response to the top down revolution happening in
this country. I want our Turning Point USA students to
receive a round of applause. These are the freedom fighters
of America.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game. They weren't experienced, They didn't know. Charlie right.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation
is the most conservative generation that we have seen and
well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What
young people especially are screaming at is they say, give
me a structure that I can live my life by,
(45:19):
and especially with young men, more challenging of them more
saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk
down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.
You want to learn what that means. Come to church
and I'll tell you what it means to become a
man because we have the greatest story ever told. What
can I do to save the country? You answer that
question every single day because you are doing the work
(45:40):
to save this beautiful republic. You are doing something that
is bigger than you.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
If everything completely goes away, how do you want to
be remembered?
Speaker 3 (45:50):
I want to be I want to be remembered for
courage from my faith. That would be the most important thing.
Most important thing is my faith in my life.
Speaker 2 (46:10):
And it puts it all in perspective, doesn't it. Charlie
Charley Kirk right there, we're are you know, our appreciation
a turning point, and I know that God has great
plans for turning point going forward. And the legacy of
one Charlie Kurt. He uh changed a lot of lives
and and this will have a generational impact. This will
(46:32):
go on because of his faithfulness to his God, the
faithfulness to his mission, and his faithfulness to those that
he served and we will be eternally grateful for Charlie Kirk.
Thank you for being with us. May God bless you,
May He keep you, May He make his face shine
upon you. May He be gracious unto you, and may
(46:55):
you experience his peace. God bless Pretty b
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