July 7, 2025 • 49 mins
Selwyn Duke the writer for The American Conservative, American Thinker, World Net Daily and many other print and online publications explains how Democrats selected their Democratic Socialist nominee to be their next Mayor. Plus, how Donald Trump is becoming the Real Black Lives President. Join us as we discuss.
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome. I'm Bill Martinez and we are live.
We've got lots to talk about today. Selwyn Duke, who's
a writer for the American Conservative, American Thinker, WorldNetDaily, many
other print and online publications, going to go one on
one and lots of things to talk about. Joe Biden.
I mean, the books just keep on coming, you know,
and you just wonder, okay, when is the real one
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with the real smoking gun. You know, we've got iterations
of accusations of his incompetency, and of course Congress this
week is going to be meeting with some of White
House aides under the Biden administration to talk about the
auto pen, so lots to talk there. Also want to
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get into a discussion with Selwyn and get his insight
and why he thinks that Mom Donnie won so resoundedly
in New York. I mean, it's like, wait a minute,
what's going on. I mean, we've kind of accepted the
fact that California is a different on a different planet altogether.
But it's like New York is finding a whole new
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planet for themselves as well. Doesn't seem to make sense,
but you know, what are we missing here? Also, Selwyn
recently wrote about Donald Trump being the real Black Lives
Matter president. So, without further ado, let's bring Selwyn Duke on. Selwyn.
Welcome to Michelle. Good to have you with us, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Great to be with you. Bill, always great to be
with you.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hey, I appreciate you taking the time to talk to
us and enlighten our audience. Now we've got another book
that's just been released about, you know, trying to give
us some insight into the Biden administration. I think that
you know, you've also got one from you know, his
former press secretary that is due out in the coming months,
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and so you wonder, Okay, who's going to finally give
us the goods. But you know, like Denish de Susan
found out when he was in jail, he told me,
he says, Bill, He says, one thing my big takeaway
from being around the convicts is they say they never
give up the con.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, that really is true. And you know,
I find it to be so funny.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We had that book by Jake Tapper right where he
said he missed the story. He missed the story somehow.
Now I know you're in my boat too. But I
was talking about Biden's dementia because it was a parent
in twenty nineteen. In fact, there was a rumor probably
not long after that he was on an anti dementia
drug called n Menda. But you know what this reminds
me of. And I know this is a reference that
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some of the young people might not get, but it's
like from the movie Casablanca, where Captain Renault goes into
that place, that gambling hall where he gambles all the time.
He's an officer, but now he's got to put on
a show because his Nazi masters are going to be
clamping down. And he says, I'm shocked, shocked to find
out there's gambling going on in here. That's what it
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reminds me of. It was so obvious. Any person who
is sentient and who was watching the news knew that
Joe Biden was going senile unfortunately, but of course everyone
else wanted to pretend as if the emperor was fully clothed.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Exactly. And the thing that still astounds me. Okay, we
have all the months and the years before, and it
was quite obvious. Like you say, anybody that had a
command of their senses whatsoever, could see easily what was
going on. And we referred to it as elder abuse,
the way Biden was being drunk about. But even where
yet is the Robert Hurr report, Selwyn? I mean to
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me that was irrefutable. I mean, at that point somebody
should have put a bag over his head and walked
him off the grounds, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Also think about poor Robert Hurr. I mean,
that guy can't win for losing because back when he
issued the report, the establishment, the left wingers were slamming him.
They were saying that he was in the tank for Trump,
he was trying to hurt Biden. Now that Jake Tapper
and others are disclosing what actually was the obvious truth.
Now you hear people on the left saying, well, you know,
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he didn't do enough. It's his fault. He should have
been more forthcoming. I've heard accusations like that too, So
you know that poor guy is going to get it
no matter what happens. But yeah, I mean, of course, look,
the whole thing was ridiculous. There's no way that that
should have been allowed. But it was just a major
con perpetrated upon the American people. And you know, it's
disgusting because if you can have a guy like that
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in office, then who can't you have an office? I mean,
obviously he was controlled by puppeteers behind the strings, behind
the scenes. And I would still like to know, Bill,
who were those puppeteers exactly? That would really be fascinating
to find out. Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, was that Jill
Biden who wasn't who was actually making the decisions? And
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then we know about the auto pen who was controlling
the autopen right exactly?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Anybody but Biden, it seems, and you know, and Trump
I think had some insight on this a bit so
in saying that all that he had experienced and known
of Biden that he would never have gone along being
of sound mind and being consistent, even though you know,
I don't know consistency, and Joe Biden seems to be
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a bit of an oxymoron. I get that, but still
it seemed that Biden, you know, went off the reservation
in some of these areas, especially when it came to
immigration for example.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, well absolutely, I mean, as we know, he was
a lot more quote conservative, at least on the surface
decades ago. You know who knows. I mean, he's not
a principled person, so certainly I could see him changing
with the times. But in this case, we know there
were hard left wingers behind the scenes pulling the strings.
There is no doubt about it. And you know, it's
so funny when people say, when they were trying to
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explain away Biden's inability to articulate himself, well he has
a stutter. He has a stutter. Well maybe he had
a stutter when he was a little kid. I have
no idea, although that could be untrue too. You know,
that's like Sandy Cortez saying, I'm a Bronx girl. But
the truth is, you look at Biden speaking fifteen years ago.
Because I said this, I accessed his speeches. He was great.
He was a great speaker, and I know the difference.
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He was known as, quote the great talker, that was
one of his nicknames.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Right, yeah, No, it's all it's just all manufactured and
brought to you, brought to you by the mainstream media,
the social media oligarchs. They were all in on this
cabult and supposedly you had this, you know, this group
within the White House that were pulling the strings, maybe
five or six people. I was intersing that. I thought,
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like you, Valerie Jarrett was one of the first names
that came to mind. Even Barack Obama is Barack Obama
admitted right when he said if he was to have
a third term, you know, his ideal would be you
know that you be home in his pajama speaking into
the year of the president.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, let's also understand
that Barack Obama is also the guy who once said
about Joe Biden, quote, never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to
f things up. Of course, he actually used that vulgar word, right,
That's what he reportedly said. According to sources, so, I
mean he knew that Joe Biden was not competent. Of course,
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once Joe Biden rose to the four, he didn't really
say anything because all these people, like you said, they're
in on the con. They're all about power. That's all
they care about. And it's really really a shame because
these powermongers can absolutely destroy civilization. And although we all
of our flaws Trump included, that's one thing you can
say about Donald Trump. He was not a politician for
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most of his life. You can't say he's necessary early
a powermonger. And I really think he does want to
resurrect what he considers to be a better America.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I mean definitely. I mean, look what's happening, and
look at the trajectory we're on right now. And what
are we six months into this presidency. Unemployment down low, inflation,
got to handle on inflation, the big of course, the
big win with Iran in decimating their nuclear ambitions. You know,
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I mean it's just at every turn, the guy's hot,
he's on fire. I mean, he goes overseas and these
European leaders are you know, all but shining his shoes
and calling him daddy.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah. Absolutely, because They know that he's a strong man,
and that's very, very important. You know, this is a
rough world and you have to project strength, There's no
doubt about it. When you have a senile man in office,
or you have someone like Barack Obama who's obviously weak,
then that sends the signal. But the United States can
be had. And let me tell you something else. I
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heard that in China during Trump's first term they actually
regarded him as a genius. They did because of the
way he could manipulate things and he could advance America's
best interests in a very very clever way. So I
know the left wants to think he's stupid. There's teds
all over the place. But he's a lot more respected
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around the world than any of these left wing leaders,
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, as my old mentor used to say, Bill, your
charm is only as good as your bottom line. Look
at Donald Trump's bottom line. It's one win after another.
I mean people were all, you know, shaking about you know,
the trade and tariff deals he was making. But I
mean he came in with a plan. He was giving
us a vision of saying, hey, look at I get
this squared away. This is going to have an effect.
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We maybe we can, you know, begin to buy that
debt down. Let's do no tax on tips. Let's how
about you know, no tax on Social Security, which I
was glad to see ind because they had taken it out,
they modified, and then they put back in. So that
was good news for the seniors of America that that
had happened. The big beautiful bill. Look at, nothing coming
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out of Congress or DC is going to be perfect,
but it moved the ball down the field and we
dealt with something we hadn't dealt with in two decades
called entitlements and making people who say, look, if you know,
if you want to be on government subsidy, then and
then if you're able body, then maybe you should be working.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah. Oh absolutely. And as far as that bill goes, yes,
it's way too expensive, but our government has been way
too expensive for a long time. And I know some
people are maybe sick of my quoting this, but I'll
always say Otto von Bismarck, the German leader, said politics
is quote the art of the possible. You have to
understand that you just can't snap your fingers and do
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whatever you want when you're president of the United States.
Especially with the narrow margins we have in Congress, you
have to work with these congressmen. And also as far
as the expense goes. The problem is inherent in our
system because at the end of the day, all of
these representatives want to be able to bring home the
bacon to their district, so they don't have a vested
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interest in cutting spending. That is the problem. Elon Musk,
who I like, by the way, I respect them, just
started a new party. I don't support that at all,
because again, we don't need another party. The problem is
inherent in the system, and there might be a way
of dealing with that, but we'd have to completely rework
the system. It's something that I've been thinking about.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I'm almost thinking sadly, and you know, it's like
good news bad news. Good news is in one sense,
and it could be bad news that Trump has turned
things around, the economy is coming back, and what happens
is that little is changed, you know, in terms of
you know, fixing our ills. When when we are in
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an area of prosperity, you know, those changes that are
needed usually happen when when things are on a downturn.
And so it's like good news, bad news. Good news
is okay, Trump's in the White House. Things are looking up,
price of eggs is coming. We can eat eggs again,
which is good. But the problem is that some of
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these issues that Doe should pointed out, which opened the
books for decades, has been pointing out, going back to
the Coburn era, and he's been pointing out all this
efficiency and he brought receipts, but they didn't want to
hear it, you know. And even when if you remember,
hw Bush went in and tried to tried to address
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some entitlements and Congress all but trd and feathered him.
And this is after he came off a huge victory
for re election, right his ratings were all up high,
and you think, okay, they just they mugged him and
get out of here, you know, go have a cup
of coffee. We don't want to talk to you, you know. So,
but it's just I think that for us to really
deal with some of these items self, and sorry to say,
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is that we may have to. You know, we're probably
already bankrupt. We just we haven't just really admitted it.
But I mean, we may have to deal with some
real bankrupts type issues where you know, like in most companies,
when they deal with bankruptcy, that's when they start getting
rid of the family members you know that have been
in the company getting paid an unbalanced amount of money.
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But hey, they're family, they got to be there. Well,
you know, now you've got to save the company. So
now you got to cut everything out there, and even
if it is your wife's favorite grandson or whatever, you know,
you got to make those tough cuts. And until we
get to that point, we're going to continue on. And
the only thing we can almost helpe for is that
Trump was right with these tariffs. That maybe that money
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and I'm saying, I want to keep an eye on
that money. Any money that we generate from teriffs, is
it going to go to pay down the debt? Is
there going to be some specific dollars going there?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Some will argue say, well, you know, Bill Sellen, you know,
if we're putting that money into something else, that means
less money than we're grabbing. Now, we still got to
to me, we still got to fix the problem. I'm
with you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, well absolutely, you know it's interesting Bill O'Reilly of
the pundit. He had a very good idea. He said,
we could drilling on federal lands, drilling for oil and
natural guess, and then use the profits that the Feds
would derive from that to pay down the debt. That
would help. But you know, if you want to illustrate
the problem, they really this little story, does it. I
remember years ago the late economics professor Walter Williams, a
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great man, related this story when he was on the
radio once. Now he was a big libertarian economist, and
he said he was having lunch with Jesse Helms, who
was a senator back then from the Carolinas, North Carolina,
I believe, big tobacco growing state, and he was telling
Helms about how bad tobacco subsidies were, and he was
going on about it. He was expounding upon the issue,
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and Helms listened politely, and then when Williams was done,
Elms looked at him and said, well, Walter, I agree
with you, but here's the problem. If I come out
against tobacco subsidies, I'm going to lose reelection and I'm
going to be replaced by someone who's even worse. Yes,
that's what he said. Now you might say that's a
very very convenient point of view, and maybe it is,
but it also happens to be absolutely true because that's
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the system we have and we're stuck in that Titler cycle.
Alexander Tyler, he was a scotsman. I know you've seen
this quotation. I can't give it to you verbatim, but
he basically said that a democracy, quote unquote can only
exist until people expend the treasury, because what happens is
that people realize they can vote themselves larges from the treasury,
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and then, of course the fiscal situation becomes worse and
worse until you experience fiscal collapse. And then he said,
what happens then is that the democracy is always succeeded
by a dictatorship. That's what he said. So unfortunately we
are in that cycle.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, and it seemed like gosh last year, especially so
when we were close and then here we are, and
you see what happens in New York with Mom Donnie.
I mean, he's got these kids, he's like the pied piper,
and he's got these kids following behind him, and like
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these kids that are on these college campuses yelling from
the river to the sea, I especially am charmed by
some of these kids that profess to be gay, you know,
chanting from the river to the sea. Little do they
know what would happen to them if they got the
river to the sea.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, well exactly. I mean, you know what they say,
useful idiots. And Mamdani is just a true pied piper,
as you just said. You know, I wrote about him
just recently, and one reason why he's so dangerous, Bill
is that he's so darn charismatic. You know, I hadn't
really seen this fellow on TV until recently, but then
I did, and I said, yep, now I know why
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he prevailed in that Democratic primary. Remember this guy was
at one percent in the Poles five months ago. He
was also ran. Then he ended up beating Cuomo by
a wide margin. They didn't even have to really go
to the rank choice voting calculations. He beat him on
the first calculation, which wasn't expected, wasn't predicted even by
the Poles. And my point here is this, you know,
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USA is so important in politics. Unfortunately, studies have shown
that in an election, the more charismatic candidate virtually always wins,
assuming they both get decent exposure. And if you look
at history, you can see that. You go back to
seventy six, you had Ford and Carter. Carter was more charismatic,
Ady Reagan was more charismatic than Carter. He won. Reagan
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was more charismatic than Mondale in eighty four. And I
don't want to bore you with the whole lineup, but
you can go to Clinton, GHW. Bush in nineteen ninety
two and Dole in nineteen ninety six. He was more
charismatic than they were. And that's how it is with
Mam Donnie. He's got a great smile, he has a
lot of charm, but unfortunately that makes him dangerous because
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you have to remember many people, most people, I would say,
do not vote on the basis of logic and reason
and knowledge. They vote on an emotional basis, and that's
all they see very often is the packaging. And you
can stop me if I'm going on too long.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now, you're exactly rightby, because I mean I saw this
early on with Bill Clinton, for example, you know his handlers.
I think you know what's the same name out of
Louisiana said that he admitted that they didn't expect Clinton
to win the first time around, because he had all
this sexual harassment baggage that he was dragging behind him,
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and and it was just that and I think hw
got tired and and kind of surrendered. And of course
it didn't help either that h Ross Perrot splintered the
vote as well. But but yes, Clinton was very, very charming,
and he was able to get around all that stuff.
Amazing Barack Obama the same way. Barack Obama. I mean,
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you know, I talked to several people who did an
incredible amount of research and vetting, unlike our mainstream media
on Barack Obama's origination and even going back to the
controversial birth certificate. They even went so far seen they
found the birth certificate that Barack Obama had lifted the
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information on and manipulated a new birth certificate for himself.
I mean, it was quite quite revealing. But Barack Obama,
because of his charm and the desire for the American
people thinking, you know, maybe if we elect this black president,
we can get all this racial stuff behind us once
and for all. I think that was a big motivator.
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I don't know, but I agree with you that, you know, charming.
It reminds me of my old mentor who was to
tell me all the times that Bill, your charm is
only as good as your bottom line, and that of
course that has to do with business and business you
got to have a bottom line. Charm will get you
through the door, may get you a meeting, but can
you deliver the goods? And unfortunately, in politics it gets
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you through the door, and once you're in the door,
you get the auto pen and you get to stay
there for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah. Well, in politics, unfortunately, Bill charm is the bottom line.
There was another study many years ago that found that
if people express themselves well, if they say something, well,
they will sway others no matter what it is that
they're selling. And you know, you look at Mam Donnie
getting back to him. I mean, here's a guy who
is a full blown communist, it seems. And no, that's
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not a radical statement. He was actually seen in a
video that emerged recently from twenty twenty one talking to
a socialist group and he said one of their goals
he said this very casually, was quote the seizure of
the means of production. The seizure of the means of production. Now,
I did a little research as far as I can
tell this video is absolutely valid. It's authentic. It's not AI. Now,
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if you're saying something like that, you're just a full
blown Marxist. You're like Mount Setungue or Joseph Stalin. And
that means this guy may have a nice smile, he
may be beautiful externally, but he could be a malevolent
creature on the inside. And he is definitely someone we
should be wary of. Bill.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, And like you said, how many other world leaders
going back in history had had the charm you know,
for the moment and time, and then what happened. It
did not turn out anywhere close to what they expected.
You know, they lost their liberties, they're under control, they
got a boot on their throats, and they're suffering. And
then you know we're back to which is a condition
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of the ISM's shared misery.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Right right? Well absolutely, And you know it's interesting because
many years ago I actually wrote a poem titled The
Charmer about this very thing. But you know, it's just
unbelievable when you look at what's going on here with
this fellow Mamdani. I mean, we know that this does
not work socialism, and when you're talking about seizing the
means of production. Well, that absolutely would be disastrous. This
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is just insane. But you know it's interesting because I'll
illustrate how little many people know. About twenty five years ago, Bill,
I was teaching religious education and I was working one
on one with this fourteen year old boy in my area.
And I live in a suburb anyway, So when I
was trying to make certain points, I used Adolf Hitler
as an example of evil incarnate. Well, after a few weeks,
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you know what, the kid asked me, fourteen years old,
who's Adel Fiddler? He had no idea, And this was
about twenty five years ago, and I'm thinking to myself, well,
wait a second, now, if you don't know who Adel
Hiddler is, what do you know about history? That's a substance.
And this really is a testimonial as to how terrible
our education is nowadays. But again it also illustrates Bill
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how there are many people out there who don't know
anything about what really matters politics, civics, history. Okay, so
again they're voting on emotional bases. And you know, this
is why the founding fathers stress that if you want
to be free, you have to have an educated electorate.
It is imperative. And more importantly, you have to have
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an electorate that has virtue in it. The founding Father's
strust that. And of course if they are virtuous, they
will educate themselves, because that's an aspect of virtue. Diligence
is a virtue. If you're diligent, you make sure you
cross all the t's and dot all the eyes, you
make sure you're conversant with the issues before casting that vote.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Exactly. And the also, the key idea was that in
order for us to manage this humongous opportunity and a
great American idea, it really was built on self rule.
And in order to have self rule rule, you had
to have all these elements, like you said, an educated constituency,
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people that just didn't, you know, have their heels up
on the desk. And because that had already been tried,
because even as our in our early foundings, the Pilgrims
came across and thought, okay, well we'll approach this in
a socialistic sort of manner, and they found out within
a year that didn't work right right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Well, absolutely, I mean socialism actually the ideas that underpin
it were born long long before the Communist Manifesto was
written that that was published in eighteen forty eight. By
the way, I understand that they initially wanted to name
it the Socialist Manifesto, but they didn't do that because
the term socialism had already and discredited at the time
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because it was associated with so many wackos, so many
bizarre people. But if you look at history, we have
more than one hundred and fifty years of socialist failure
to look back on. Just take Robert Owen, the Scottish
quote reformer, and his little commune New Harmony in Indiana
in eighteen twenty six. He set up this commune. Now
he was probably a bill inspired by all of the
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religious communes that existed at the time, some of which
were very successful. So he sets up this socialist like
commune where basically it is from each according to his
abilities and to each according to his needs. Supposedly. Well,
you know how long it lasted. It lasted two years
and then it started dissolving. Why because if you read
the history of it, they will say it attracted layabouts,
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it attracted irresponsible people, and that was on a very
very small scale, by the way. Okay, it didn't even
work there. You think that this is going to work
on a national scale, Never has, never will And if
you want to destroy wealth, that is the to do it.
Remember twenty thirteen Think Progress left wing site actually confess
that we were living in the most prosperous age worldwide
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in human history. Now why is that? That is because
of the industrial revolution and the spread of healthy market
systems which create wealth. They are wealth creation engines. That's
why you kill that golden goose. Forget about it. We're
going to see poverty like you can't imagine with having
more than eight billion people on the earth.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You imagine poverty, depression, suicide rate, violence, lawlessness. It all
goes down the proverbial toilet because you know, one of
the higher levels of our existence is to have that
ability to be productive selling. We want to be able
to feel at the end of the day we've earned
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our wage for the most part. Okay, are there exceptions,
I get that, But the heartbeat of America and the
magnet that draws people is that you can be productive,
you can be the captain of your own ship. And
you know it's you know, some government interference. I'm not
saying everything's perfect, but we're working on that. But nonetheless,
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I mean compared to anybody else in the world. I mean,
it's a pretty good idea here.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, well, it absolutely is. And like I said, see
part of the problem here is perspective. People don't have
things in perspective. They always see the glass too, many
of the young people, especially as half empty, when it's
way more than half full. And you know, as Milton Friedman,
the famed late economists, pointed out, you have to realize
that the norm for mankind was to live in grinding poverty.
(26:38):
I read once that the average life spend during the
Roman Empire was twenty two. I read that it was
in ancient Greece thirty five. Now these are approximations, but
the point is is that on average, if you factor
in infant mortality and childhood deaths from disease, people didn't
live very long. If you look at ancient Spartan boys
in their military camps, they subsisted off blood soup, whichrobably
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isn't as bad as it sounds. But they were hungry
all the time, and they were I think even expected
to steal to try to supplement their diets. So the
point is, and by the way, the average Spartan Hoplight
Warrior was only about five five, one hundred and thirty
five pounds. That's not portrayed and entertainment, and that's probably
largely because of their diet and by the way, they
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had it good compared to many people in this world.
I mean, there are so many people who have lived
in dire poverty and who died of starvation. We still
see this in Africa today when they were very, very young.
And again it's only free market systems, those wealth creation
engines that ended all that. As Milton Friedman put it,
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they catalyzed the creative capacities of the modern men because
they give you an incentive to create wealth, to take
the things you find on and in this earth and
combine them in ways so that you become innovative. You
invent new things in ways that enhance human existence. And
all of our modern science, all of our modern luxuries,
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everything we enjoy, the computer we're communicating through right now,
all these things are attributable to that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, exactly. Uh not by not by former Vice president.
I'm sorry to tell you Al Gore did not. But
you know, his dream lives on, His dream lives on,
you know, But that's Okay, we'll pretend, but you know,
but you're exactly right. And the thing is is that
Mamdani and his ilk would want us to be creative
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and still productive, but he wants to come in and
steal what you've created, and he'll and he'll steal from
you all your productivity until you finally just give up.
And uh, and then what what's life worth living for? Then?
I mean, this is this is why these type of
programs are short, are short lived and uh, and they're
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very painful. And I hear it is our country was
so close just surrendering that you imagine if Kamala Harris
would have been elected over Donald Trump this time around,
where do you think we'd be at this point?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh? Well, it would just be awful. I mean, the
woman's incompetent. Who knows how she would be manipulated by
left wingers. And let's understand something, Bill. You know, Trump
won and we're saying, well, you know, he won the
popular vote and the electoral college, of course, but if
you look at many states in which he won, it
was really a very narrow margin and that should scare people.
And I know there was a lot of vote for
aud too, let's be honest about it. I think in
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this case, though, the election was just too big to rig.
But yes, these socialists would destroy us, and you take
mem Donnie. You know. The problem he has is that
he wants things like a thirty dollars minimum wage, which
by the way, would devastate little bodega's in New York City.
What are they going to do with that? He wants
free buses, He wants so many things that are going
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to be free. How are you going to pay for this?
He wants to tax millionaires more highly. Now here's the
problem he has. Bill. I don't think correct me if
I'm wrong. I don't think he's going to be able
to erect a Berlin Wall around New York City to
keep people in, which is what the Marxists did during
the Cold War. And what that means is you're going
to see a flight of capital of rich people from
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New York City like you haven't seen before. And I've
heard some left wingers say, well, nobody leaves New York. Really,
I left New York City decades ago, and I'm not
going back on a bed. I say to people, if
I never saw it again, it would be too soon.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Hey, and what's the occupancy rate right now in New
York I mean, how many apartments are emptied, which has
been unheard of for many years. And yes, there's been
such a flight out of there. I'm in Florida and
we warned Floridians not to stand close to the exit
doors or the entrances because people from New York are
(30:41):
flooding down here. You're gonna get a run over.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, oh, absolutely, So he could really destroy New York,
which is one of the financial capitals of the world.
I mean, it's terrible, but again, the man is so charismatic.
He's the favorite right now, he's leading in the polls.
I wouldn't want to bit against him, and I don't
live in New York City anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, it's amazing. I mean I was looking at some
recent polls here. I mean, you know, to your point, Mom,
Donnie got forty one percent of the vote, Cuomo twenty
six percent, Eric Adams sixteen percent, Curtis Leewah less than
ten percent. You got fifty one percent of New Yorker
saying they would never vote for Adams. Okay, fifty one percent.
(31:22):
Forty six percent say they would never vote for Mom Donnie,
So you got what five percent spread there that'll probably
be chewed up if Cuomo does go independent and Slee
watch chips off some of that stuff as well. Yeah,
I mean the stars look like they're aligned for this guy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, they really do. I mean, he actually has me
rooting for Eric Adams and I never thought that could
happen before you hobbied. It's ible, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, I know how you feel. And Curtis Lee was
a great guy. He's a nice guy and all that
he's you know, tried to do, and you know, in
protecting New York he's gotten beat up. I mean they
busted his ribs up and stuff. I mean, the poor
guy and here, but he's gonna he's gonna exacerbate the
problem because he's not going to get enough votes to
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overcome I mean, to be where he's at. He's just
gonna be He's gonna be a spoiler. So I think
they need to get together somehow and talk strategically as
to what they can do. But yeah, I find myself
it's it is ironic to sit there and go, yeah, uh,
you know, Eric Adams is the best option right now.
(32:33):
But you know, we'll see we'll see how that plays out.
I did want to talk to you about another thing
that you recently wrote about, and that is that Donald
Trump is really has become the real Black Lives Matter president, right.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, he certainly has. And why I say that is
something most people don't know about. But Donald Trump recently
broke her to peace between the Democratic Republic of the
Congo and Rwanda. Now people might say, Duke, what are
you talking about. Well, this is one of those wars
that you don't hear about. But it's been going on
for decades, conflict between them, different wars I'm talking about,
and it's cost millions of lives. You know. We hear
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about Ukraine, we hear about what's happening with Israel and
the Palestinians. We don't hear about things like this. And
like I said, Trump just broke her to peace. So
if this piece holds, and we don't know if it will,
human nature being what it is, but if it does,
Trump will have saved innumerable black lives. And this is
where the rubber hits the road because you look at
all these other people on the left, they say, oh,
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I support Black Lives Matter, which we know the organization
is a complete fraud now. But the truth is their
policies cost black lives. And by the way, just talking
about that, that's another area where Trump actually has done
things beneficial for the black community. Because when you allow
crime to proliferate, which the left wing has done, no
cash bail, let's slap on the wrist, so called justice,
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you know, in New York City and Philadelphia other places,
what happens is more minority people, black people die. Because
I'm a plurality of crime, I would say is black
on black, okay, So that's where the crime is in
these black communities. So when you see de policing like
you saw in the wake of the George Floyd riots,
where the police are afraid to do their duties, what
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happens is more black people die, more black people get hurt,
innocent Black Americans. And Trump does something about that, or
at least he tries to, because he's a law and
order president. The left does not, because the left is
facilitating criminality. That's what it's doing. It's very very evil,
And as is always the case with these people, when
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they accuse you of something like not caring about Black Americans,
it's because they are projecting their mindset onto you.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They're excusing you of what they're guilty of themselves. How
come we can't get legitimate numbers on that that you
just mentioned. I mean, I know some of this is anecdotal.
Doctor John Lott, who is a researcher, has come up
with numbers and talking about law enforcement the way they
jury rig the numbers, and you know they've really manipulated
them in such a way. But yet we're still looking
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for data that is legitimate that reinforces exactly what you
just said, and that is in these minority communities where
lawlessness takes over, you defund police and then look at
the rate of crime and murder and everything else.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah. Well absolutely, I mean there's no question about it.
This is what's been happening in these communities for a
very very long time now. And you mentioned the numbers. Bill, Well,
I remember some years ago. I don't know if this
is still the case, but you had major cities that
were not reporting their crime stats to the AQBAI. So
when the left wing media would say, well, crime is
down or crime is not up that much, the truth
(35:39):
is is they had huge holes in the data there.
I mean, it was completely invalid the claim, and the
truth is is when you have depolicing this was a
problem in Baltimore some years ago, probably still is, where
the police just stop arresting criminals and the ba's they
stop prosecuting criminals. Well, of course, then the crime rate
is going to appear to go down, but it's simply
(36:01):
because you're not arresting the criminals. That's like you said,
getting the real numbers can be very, very difficult. That's
smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, if you remember the mayor of Baltimore, Oh, just
let them riot, you know, they need to get this
out of their system.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
What I mean Lake, Yeah, she said space to destroy.
That's how she put it. People who needed space to destroy.
They were going to give them room to do that.
I mean, it was just unbelievable. This is the mentality
we have here. It's crazy. That's what man Donnie would
bring to New York City right on steroids. I mean,
we just open all that up and look what happened.
(36:34):
I mean, just some minor law enforcement that Donald Trump
with the National Guard employed in Los Angeles. Seen if
he didn't do that, Alick could still be burning. You know,
oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you know the issues.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know, the looting. I mean they put the stop
to the looting right away. I mean they got away
with it for the first couple of nights. And you know,
Karen bas didn't seem to be too concerned about that.
You know, they could take up to one thousand dollars,
not a problem until the Feds came in and said, no,
you know, federal law is different. I don't care you
take a piece of gum, you're gonna get, You're gonna
go to jail, We're gonna we're gonna come after you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well, absolutely, listen. It's a basic function of the government
to ensure domestic tranquility. If the government does not perform
that role, and if it doesn't secure our borders, it
has no right to exist, no moral right at all.
These are basic functions. It's not a basic function to
facilitate the so called sex changes of children. It's not
a basic function to impose DEEI, which is poison, and
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it's just officially sanctioned discrimination. None of these things are
basic functions. But taking care of crime is. And a
politician who doesn't resolve to do that shouldn't be elected.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Dogcatcher exactly. Well, speaking, of Charmers. Let's go to of course,
you know the top Bronx girl herself AOC. You right,
she's more suburban social list in Bronx Bolshevik.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, here's another one. Now, by the way, you're actually
looking at a real Bronx boy. I know you can't
tell from the way I speak, you know what, I'm
following your build, but Moon but believe it or not.
I was born in Yonkers, which is a city that
abuts the Bronx, and then my parents lived in the
Bronx at the time, and I lived there for the
first twenty eight years of my life. Actually, now I
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live in Westchester currently, which is where AOC Sandy Cortes
of Green Leafy Westchester, as I like to call her,
actually grew up. She only lived in the Bronx until
she was five years old. Then her parents took her
up to Yorktown Heights, which is a tony town, a
very very nice town. So she's a suburban girl. And
I've been to Yorktown Heights, very very nice place. But
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you're not going to find the hood there. You're not
going to find the crips or the bloods there. But
you did find Sandy Cortes there, and if she was
taken out of the Bronx when she was a little
five year old, that means she doesn't even really remember
her time there. And I'm sure she visited relatives there,
I know that. But she's not a Bronx girl. But
you know what she is. She is another one like
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Mim Donnie. She is someone who actually does have charisma. Now,
people on my side, they're going to say, wait a second,
what are you talking about. I can't stand the woman.
You've got to change your mentality. Put yourself in the
shoes of someone who's not confisant with the issues, who
doesn't know anything about ideology, doesn't know civics, who just
listens to her. You're going to see someone who's very fluent,
(39:28):
who can present things well, as one of her high
school teachers said, best presenter he ever saw. And you
know it's no coincidence because you know how she was chosen.
She was chosen by the Justice Democrats, a far left
wing group. They're socialists via what essentially was an audition.
An audition, that's how she got there. And you know,
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here's the thing. You may find this interesting. This occurred
to me when I was writing my article about Mam Donnie.
But you know, in sports nowadays you see the competition
bill is tougher than ever. You know, the records now
are unbelievable. In the mid fifties, Roger Banister broke the
four minute mile, everyone thought that couldn't be done. Now
the boys high school record is three point fifty three
and change. Now, my point here is that I think
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the competition for a charm in the charisma department in
politics has followed the same path. And I think that's
because of social media, because of the Internet. Agen. Yes,
you go back to the time before radio, it didn't
matter nearly as much because people usually didn't see the candidates.
Maybe they read about them in a newspaper, so they
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might focus on what was told to them in that
paper about the candidate's positions. Then you had the radio,
you could hear them, but still it wasn't like the
television age. Then you had the television age, and you
had the first televised debate in nineteen sixty presidential debate
between JFK and Richard Nixon. And what happened there. What
happened there was that people who only heard it on
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the radio thought Nixon won, but people who watched it
on TV thought jfk one why because he was younger,
better looking, Nixon had at five o'clock shadow, and JAF
he was sweating, right. And now we have the Internet
age with social media and podcasts, and now you have
television on steroids. So I think it's a situation where
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as in sports you just have to be uber charismatic nowadays.
I don't like that fact because I don't vote on
that basis, but I just think that's the way it is.
And that's why I said in my article about Mamdani,
I think Republicans have to realize now when they're nominating
people that you've got to ask this question, can this person?
Would this person be able to successfully carry a podcast?
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Because if the answer is no, if he can't do that,
maybe he can't carry the election in this age of
big time.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Well, I think that was the question that was asked
of Cuomo here, right, He meets with a donor and
the donor says, this guy doesn't have the passion. He
couldn't do a podcast, and so he says, I'm not
backing him. So he decides to put you know, his
chips on Adams. But going into the meeting, you know,
to your exact point, he was he was going to
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cut a big check for Andrew Guomo.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Right. Well, you know, I think that's a very good
example because if you look at Andrew Cuomo, he's a
lot more charismatic than many. If you remember him during COVID,
he completely mismanaged it, but he would sit there and
he was being revered for a while. You know, in
that outfit he had that was dark, It almost looked
facistic to me. But he was giving these news conference
and telling these stories about his mother, and he's such
a good rock conteur, and he had people mesmerized, transfixed.
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So he's not even bad in that department. But again,
HARKing back to what I said about the competition, he
still pales in comparison to mom Donnie, who not only
has more charisma. But you mentioned this, you know, he
says what he says with passion. He really seems to
believe in it. So maybe he's sincerely wrong. But I
guess maybe he is sincere I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Know well, and I think you're right, sincerely wrong, because
we know that history and the evidence, the math won't
back up. I mean, you know he wants to I'm
done going back to Ma'm donnie again. He thinks he's
going to generate all the money that he needs, you know,
for free buses, free bus rides, what cities supported bodegas
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and and and grocery stores? Are you kidding me? And
he's gonna he's going to tax the uber wealthy. I mean,
whoever stays in town, even even if you stopped it
right now and said, hey, run the math, run the
math on the numbers right now in the in the
you know, the uber wealthy. How much? How much money
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are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, well exactly. You're dealing with the fluid situation. I mean,
you can't view it in a static way where you
raise taxes everything else stays the same so you generate
more revenue. It just doesn't work that way. If you
institute a law, what happens is people change their behavior.
It may seem unrelated, but this is an example of
what I'm talking about. In twenty twenty one, New Jersey
and acted a single use plastic bag bend because they
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were saying, we wanted to save on plastic because it's
bad for the environment. You know what happened plastic use
for plastic bags increase three hundred percent. Why because people
had to use these so called reusable bags which require
fifteen times much as much plastic, but people don't use
them on average fifteen times as much. So again that's
an example of how you can't have people in government
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who have these big egos and who think they can
micromanage things from the top because it just does not work.
You know, as Thomas soul has pointed out, most all
of us have expertise and only a very narrow range
of endeavor. And the truth is, you have to understand
that if you're in government, you have to have humility.
You have to understand that, for the most part, you
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have to rely on the invisible hand of the market
to orchestrate things because it generally does not go wrong occasionally,
but not generally. Much better than having some oligarchy of
socialists of pseudo elites trying to control things from the
top down.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well, you know, I guess in some sense where fortunate
that we have four recent years to use as a
comparative and the government was involved in everything, you know,
down to the light bulb that you screwed into your lamp.
You know, how how well did that work out for you?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah? No, exactly. I mean this is the problem, and
a lot of well meaning people don't get it. You know,
I just gave you the example of the plastic bags
in New Jersey. You could have the best intentions in
the world, but the reality is is that none of
us know enough to orchestrate an entire economy from the
top down. Here's another example. According to Walter Williams, the
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average supermarket stocks fifteen thousand items. Now, these are from
the world over. And if you're going to know what
you should stock, what you should discontinue, what you should introduce,
how much of each product, you have to be someone
who's an expert in that area and who's on the
ground there in the supermarket looking at sales. Do you
think some bureaucrat in Washington, DC could even come close
(45:57):
to doing that job? And it's not just that supermarket.
Apply that by ten thousand, because it's supermarkets everywhere. It's
other businesses of all different kinds, other entities. I mean,
it's just impossible. This whole situation is so complex that
you might say, if you're a futurist, a technocrat, well
maybe AI will be able to do it. Well, I
don't know. I wouldn't want to bank on that either,
(46:18):
because that's also a very risky proposition. You have to
rely on the market, because you know, Winston Churchill set
about democracy, it's absolutely the worst system in the world
except for all the rest. And what is the market?
The market is economic democracy. Every time we make a
purchase or retain a service, we're casting a vote. Within
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the context of the system. We're deciding what products and
services will prevail. And you can say the same thing
about the free market that you could say about democracy.
It's absolutely the worst system in the world except for
all the rest.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
But you know, if you think about it, so in
the cumulative intelligence of what three hundred and fifty billions,
are we three hundred FFT billion? And no, we're three
hundred fifty million three Yeah, So so here we are
the cumulative intelligence of our population, and you know, and
you want to just take that out of the mix.
(47:14):
I mean, I think that we saw what happened with COVID,
for example, you didn't want to listen to what was
happening on the ground. You wanted to talk from on
high and your ivory towers and you end up killing
a lot of people unnecessarily when we had we had
the the not necessarily vaccines, but we had the medicine
(47:35):
that could have solved the problem. And of course we're
finding this out, you know, five years down the road
after you know, millions of people have died.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Absolutely absolutely, Well, what did Reagan say? The nine scariest
words in the English language are I'm from the government
and I'm here to help you know, it really is true.
And again we need some government. We understand that we're
not anarchists, but you can't have the government get involved
in too many things. And let me tell you what
governs this. I know we don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He let's do this. We got about a minute left.
I'm going to let you summarize it and bring us home.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go ahead, Okay. The principle is called subsidiarity. Now what
that means is that if a task has to be
performed in society, the smallest possible unit of society that
can possibly perform that task should be the one to
do so. So it's something the family can do. Then
you don't outsource that to a larger entity like a
community organization. If the family can't. You don't go straight
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to the federal government. You go to that community organization
or the local government. If it can't do it, you
go to the state. But that's the principle that governs
this subsidiarity. People like these left wingers Mamdannie Sandy Cortez,
they want to go right to the Feds with everything.
That is a recipe for disaster. We saw that with
the Soviet Union. It does not work that way.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Lies madness, what hubris that they think they know better? Right,
and look at the proof that they show us. They
show us time and again they don't. And when we're
caught in this trap, as Elvis Presley would say, but
we'll leave it there. Sew and Duke, you're awesome. Thank
you so much for being with us, selling Duke as
a writer for The New American, The Hill Observer, The
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American Conservative, WorldNet, Daily, American Thinker, and many other print
and online publications. Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the insight.
Take care, God bless Thanks gentlemen, Thank you for being
with us. Someone brought a lot to the front here
and I'm sure it has given you a lot to
think about. And I pray that you were blessed by this.
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Thank you so much again for sharing some time with
us and with Selwyn Duke. May God bless you and
keep you, may make his face shine upon you, May
be gracious unto you and give you peace. God bless
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Speaker 2 (00:38):
Hello and welcome. I'm Bill Martinez and we are live.
We've got lots to talk about today. Selwyn Duke, who's
a writer for the American Conservative, American Thinker, WorldNetDaily, many
other print and online publications, going to go one on
one and lots of things to talk about. Joe Biden.
I mean, the books just keep on coming, you know,
and you just wonder, okay, when is the real one
(01:00):
with the real smoking gun. You know, we've got iterations
of accusations of his incompetency, and of course Congress this
week is going to be meeting with some of White
House aides under the Biden administration to talk about the
auto pen, so lots to talk there. Also want to
(01:20):
get into a discussion with Selwyn and get his insight
and why he thinks that Mom Donnie won so resoundedly
in New York. I mean, it's like, wait a minute,
what's going on. I mean, we've kind of accepted the
fact that California is a different on a different planet altogether.
But it's like New York is finding a whole new
(01:42):
planet for themselves as well. Doesn't seem to make sense,
but you know, what are we missing here? Also, Selwyn
recently wrote about Donald Trump being the real Black Lives
Matter president. So, without further ado, let's bring Selwyn Duke on. Selwyn.
Welcome to Michelle. Good to have you with us, sir.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Great to be with you. Bill, always great to be
with you.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Hey, I appreciate you taking the time to talk to
us and enlighten our audience. Now we've got another book
that's just been released about, you know, trying to give
us some insight into the Biden administration. I think that
you know, you've also got one from you know, his
former press secretary that is due out in the coming months,
(02:25):
and so you wonder, Okay, who's going to finally give
us the goods. But you know, like Denish de Susan
found out when he was in jail, he told me,
he says, Bill, He says, one thing my big takeaway
from being around the convicts is they say they never
give up the con.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, that really is true. And you know,
I find it to be so funny.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Bill.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
We had that book by Jake Tapper right where he
said he missed the story. He missed the story somehow.
Now I know you're in my boat too. But I
was talking about Biden's dementia because it was a parent
in twenty nineteen. In fact, there was a rumor probably
not long after that he was on an anti dementia
drug called n Menda. But you know what this reminds
me of. And I know this is a reference that
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some of the young people might not get, but it's
like from the movie Casablanca, where Captain Renault goes into
that place, that gambling hall where he gambles all the time.
He's an officer, but now he's got to put on
a show because his Nazi masters are going to be
clamping down. And he says, I'm shocked, shocked to find
out there's gambling going on in here. That's what it
(03:27):
reminds me of. It was so obvious. Any person who
is sentient and who was watching the news knew that
Joe Biden was going senile unfortunately, but of course everyone
else wanted to pretend as if the emperor was fully clothed.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Exactly. And the thing that still astounds me. Okay, we
have all the months and the years before, and it
was quite obvious. Like you say, anybody that had a
command of their senses whatsoever, could see easily what was
going on. And we referred to it as elder abuse,
the way Biden was being drunk about. But even where
yet is the Robert Hurr report, Selwyn? I mean to
(04:03):
me that was irrefutable. I mean, at that point somebody
should have put a bag over his head and walked
him off the grounds, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Also think about poor Robert Hurr. I mean,
that guy can't win for losing because back when he
issued the report, the establishment, the left wingers were slamming him.
They were saying that he was in the tank for Trump,
he was trying to hurt Biden. Now that Jake Tapper
and others are disclosing what actually was the obvious truth.
Now you hear people on the left saying, well, you know,
(04:34):
he didn't do enough. It's his fault. He should have
been more forthcoming. I've heard accusations like that too, So
you know that poor guy is going to get it
no matter what happens. But yeah, I mean, of course, look,
the whole thing was ridiculous. There's no way that that
should have been allowed. But it was just a major
con perpetrated upon the American people. And you know, it's
disgusting because if you can have a guy like that
(04:56):
in office, then who can't you have an office? I mean,
obviously he was controlled by puppeteers behind the strings, behind
the scenes. And I would still like to know, Bill,
who were those puppeteers exactly? That would really be fascinating
to find out. Barack Obama, Valerie Jarrett, was that Jill
Biden who wasn't who was actually making the decisions? And
(05:16):
then we know about the auto pen who was controlling
the autopen right exactly?
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Anybody but Biden, it seems, and you know, and Trump
I think had some insight on this a bit so
in saying that all that he had experienced and known
of Biden that he would never have gone along being
of sound mind and being consistent, even though you know,
I don't know consistency, and Joe Biden seems to be
(05:42):
a bit of an oxymoron. I get that, but still
it seemed that Biden, you know, went off the reservation
in some of these areas, especially when it came to
immigration for example.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, well absolutely, I mean, as we know, he was
a lot more quote conservative, at least on the surface
decades ago. You know who knows. I mean, he's not
a principled person, so certainly I could see him changing
with the times. But in this case, we know there
were hard left wingers behind the scenes pulling the strings.
There is no doubt about it. And you know, it's
so funny when people say, when they were trying to
(06:13):
explain away Biden's inability to articulate himself, well he has
a stutter. He has a stutter. Well maybe he had
a stutter when he was a little kid. I have
no idea, although that could be untrue too. You know,
that's like Sandy Cortez saying, I'm a Bronx girl. But
the truth is, you look at Biden speaking fifteen years ago.
Because I said this, I accessed his speeches. He was great.
He was a great speaker, and I know the difference.
(06:35):
He was known as, quote the great talker, that was
one of his nicknames.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Right, yeah, No, it's all it's just all manufactured and
brought to you, brought to you by the mainstream media,
the social media oligarchs. They were all in on this
cabult and supposedly you had this, you know, this group
within the White House that were pulling the strings, maybe
five or six people. I was intersing that. I thought,
(07:01):
like you, Valerie Jarrett was one of the first names
that came to mind. Even Barack Obama is Barack Obama
admitted right when he said if he was to have
a third term, you know, his ideal would be you
know that you be home in his pajama speaking into
the year of the president.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Right, yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely. You know, let's also understand
that Barack Obama is also the guy who once said
about Joe Biden, quote, never underestimate Joe Biden's ability to
f things up. Of course, he actually used that vulgar word, right,
That's what he reportedly said. According to sources, so, I
mean he knew that Joe Biden was not competent. Of course,
(07:35):
once Joe Biden rose to the four, he didn't really
say anything because all these people, like you said, they're
in on the con. They're all about power. That's all
they care about. And it's really really a shame because
these powermongers can absolutely destroy civilization. And although we all
of our flaws Trump included, that's one thing you can
say about Donald Trump. He was not a politician for
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most of his life. You can't say he's necessary early
a powermonger. And I really think he does want to
resurrect what he considers to be a better America.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I mean definitely. I mean, look what's happening, and
look at the trajectory we're on right now. And what
are we six months into this presidency. Unemployment down low, inflation,
got to handle on inflation, the big of course, the
big win with Iran in decimating their nuclear ambitions. You know,
(08:28):
I mean it's just at every turn, the guy's hot,
he's on fire. I mean, he goes overseas and these
European leaders are you know, all but shining his shoes
and calling him daddy.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yeah. Absolutely, because They know that he's a strong man,
and that's very, very important. You know, this is a
rough world and you have to project strength, There's no
doubt about it. When you have a senile man in office,
or you have someone like Barack Obama who's obviously weak,
then that sends the signal. But the United States can
be had. And let me tell you something else. I
(09:02):
heard that in China during Trump's first term they actually
regarded him as a genius. They did because of the
way he could manipulate things and he could advance America's
best interests in a very very clever way. So I
know the left wants to think he's stupid. There's teds
all over the place. But he's a lot more respected
(09:22):
around the world than any of these left wing leaders,
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Well, as my old mentor used to say, Bill, your
charm is only as good as your bottom line. Look
at Donald Trump's bottom line. It's one win after another.
I mean people were all, you know, shaking about you know,
the trade and tariff deals he was making. But I
mean he came in with a plan. He was giving
us a vision of saying, hey, look at I get
this squared away. This is going to have an effect.
(09:48):
We maybe we can, you know, begin to buy that
debt down. Let's do no tax on tips. Let's how
about you know, no tax on Social Security, which I
was glad to see ind because they had taken it out,
they modified, and then they put back in. So that
was good news for the seniors of America that that
had happened. The big beautiful bill. Look at, nothing coming
(10:08):
out of Congress or DC is going to be perfect,
but it moved the ball down the field and we
dealt with something we hadn't dealt with in two decades
called entitlements and making people who say, look, if you know,
if you want to be on government subsidy, then and
then if you're able body, then maybe you should be working.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yeah. Oh absolutely. And as far as that bill goes, yes,
it's way too expensive, but our government has been way
too expensive for a long time. And I know some
people are maybe sick of my quoting this, but I'll
always say Otto von Bismarck, the German leader, said politics
is quote the art of the possible. You have to
understand that you just can't snap your fingers and do
(10:47):
whatever you want when you're president of the United States.
Especially with the narrow margins we have in Congress, you
have to work with these congressmen. And also as far
as the expense goes. The problem is inherent in our
system because at the end of the day, all of
these representatives want to be able to bring home the
bacon to their district, so they don't have a vested
(11:07):
interest in cutting spending. That is the problem. Elon Musk,
who I like, by the way, I respect them, just
started a new party. I don't support that at all,
because again, we don't need another party. The problem is
inherent in the system, and there might be a way
of dealing with that, but we'd have to completely rework
the system. It's something that I've been thinking about.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Well, I'm almost thinking sadly, and you know, it's like
good news bad news. Good news is in one sense,
and it could be bad news that Trump has turned
things around, the economy is coming back, and what happens
is that little is changed, you know, in terms of
you know, fixing our ills. When when we are in
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an area of prosperity, you know, those changes that are
needed usually happen when when things are on a downturn.
And so it's like good news, bad news. Good news
is okay, Trump's in the White House. Things are looking up,
price of eggs is coming. We can eat eggs again,
which is good. But the problem is that some of
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these issues that Doe should pointed out, which opened the
books for decades, has been pointing out, going back to
the Coburn era, and he's been pointing out all this
efficiency and he brought receipts, but they didn't want to
hear it, you know. And even when if you remember,
hw Bush went in and tried to tried to address
(12:29):
some entitlements and Congress all but trd and feathered him.
And this is after he came off a huge victory
for re election, right his ratings were all up high,
and you think, okay, they just they mugged him and
get out of here, you know, go have a cup
of coffee. We don't want to talk to you, you know. So,
but it's just I think that for us to really
deal with some of these items self, and sorry to say,
(12:51):
is that we may have to. You know, we're probably
already bankrupt. We just we haven't just really admitted it.
But I mean, we may have to deal with some
real bankrupts type issues where you know, like in most companies,
when they deal with bankruptcy, that's when they start getting
rid of the family members you know that have been
in the company getting paid an unbalanced amount of money.
(13:12):
But hey, they're family, they got to be there. Well,
you know, now you've got to save the company. So
now you got to cut everything out there, and even
if it is your wife's favorite grandson or whatever, you know,
you got to make those tough cuts. And until we
get to that point, we're going to continue on. And
the only thing we can almost helpe for is that
Trump was right with these tariffs. That maybe that money
(13:33):
and I'm saying, I want to keep an eye on
that money. Any money that we generate from teriffs, is
it going to go to pay down the debt? Is
there going to be some specific dollars going there?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Some will argue say, well, you know, Bill Sellen, you know,
if we're putting that money into something else, that means
less money than we're grabbing. Now, we still got to
to me, we still got to fix the problem. I'm
with you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yeah, well absolutely, you know it's interesting Bill O'Reilly of
the pundit. He had a very good idea. He said,
we could drilling on federal lands, drilling for oil and
natural guess, and then use the profits that the Feds
would derive from that to pay down the debt. That
would help. But you know, if you want to illustrate
the problem, they really this little story, does it. I
remember years ago the late economics professor Walter Williams, a
(14:16):
great man, related this story when he was on the
radio once. Now he was a big libertarian economist, and
he said he was having lunch with Jesse Helms, who
was a senator back then from the Carolinas, North Carolina,
I believe, big tobacco growing state, and he was telling
Helms about how bad tobacco subsidies were, and he was
going on about it. He was expounding upon the issue,
(14:37):
and Helms listened politely, and then when Williams was done,
Elms looked at him and said, well, Walter, I agree
with you, but here's the problem. If I come out
against tobacco subsidies, I'm going to lose reelection and I'm
going to be replaced by someone who's even worse. Yes,
that's what he said. Now you might say that's a
very very convenient point of view, and maybe it is,
but it also happens to be absolutely true because that's
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the system we have and we're stuck in that Titler cycle.
Alexander Tyler, he was a scotsman. I know you've seen
this quotation. I can't give it to you verbatim, but
he basically said that a democracy, quote unquote can only
exist until people expend the treasury, because what happens is
that people realize they can vote themselves larges from the treasury,
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and then, of course the fiscal situation becomes worse and
worse until you experience fiscal collapse. And then he said,
what happens then is that the democracy is always succeeded
by a dictatorship. That's what he said. So unfortunately we
are in that cycle.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, and it seemed like gosh last year, especially so
when we were close and then here we are, and
you see what happens in New York with Mom Donnie.
I mean, he's got these kids, he's like the pied piper,
and he's got these kids following behind him, and like
(15:57):
these kids that are on these college campuses yelling from
the river to the sea, I especially am charmed by
some of these kids that profess to be gay, you know,
chanting from the river to the sea. Little do they
know what would happen to them if they got the
river to the sea.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, well exactly. I mean, you know what they say,
useful idiots. And Mamdani is just a true pied piper,
as you just said. You know, I wrote about him
just recently, and one reason why he's so dangerous, Bill
is that he's so darn charismatic. You know, I hadn't
really seen this fellow on TV until recently, but then
I did, and I said, yep, now I know why
(16:38):
he prevailed in that Democratic primary. Remember this guy was
at one percent in the Poles five months ago. He
was also ran. Then he ended up beating Cuomo by
a wide margin. They didn't even have to really go
to the rank choice voting calculations. He beat him on
the first calculation, which wasn't expected, wasn't predicted even by
the Poles. And my point here is this, you know,
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USA is so important in politics. Unfortunately, studies have shown
that in an election, the more charismatic candidate virtually always wins,
assuming they both get decent exposure. And if you look
at history, you can see that. You go back to
seventy six, you had Ford and Carter. Carter was more charismatic,
Ady Reagan was more charismatic than Carter. He won. Reagan
(17:22):
was more charismatic than Mondale in eighty four. And I
don't want to bore you with the whole lineup, but
you can go to Clinton, GHW. Bush in nineteen ninety
two and Dole in nineteen ninety six. He was more
charismatic than they were. And that's how it is with
Mam Donnie. He's got a great smile, he has a
lot of charm, but unfortunately that makes him dangerous because
(17:44):
you have to remember many people, most people, I would say,
do not vote on the basis of logic and reason
and knowledge. They vote on an emotional basis, and that's
all they see very often is the packaging. And you
can stop me if I'm going on too long.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Now, you're exactly rightby, because I mean I saw this
early on with Bill Clinton, for example, you know his handlers.
I think you know what's the same name out of
Louisiana said that he admitted that they didn't expect Clinton
to win the first time around, because he had all
this sexual harassment baggage that he was dragging behind him,
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and and it was just that and I think hw
got tired and and kind of surrendered. And of course
it didn't help either that h Ross Perrot splintered the
vote as well. But but yes, Clinton was very, very charming,
and he was able to get around all that stuff.
Amazing Barack Obama the same way. Barack Obama. I mean,
(18:43):
you know, I talked to several people who did an
incredible amount of research and vetting, unlike our mainstream media
on Barack Obama's origination and even going back to the
controversial birth certificate. They even went so far seen they
found the birth certificate that Barack Obama had lifted the
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information on and manipulated a new birth certificate for himself.
I mean, it was quite quite revealing. But Barack Obama,
because of his charm and the desire for the American
people thinking, you know, maybe if we elect this black president,
we can get all this racial stuff behind us once
and for all. I think that was a big motivator.
(19:25):
I don't know, but I agree with you that, you know, charming.
It reminds me of my old mentor who was to
tell me all the times that Bill, your charm is
only as good as your bottom line, and that of
course that has to do with business and business you
got to have a bottom line. Charm will get you
through the door, may get you a meeting, but can
you deliver the goods? And unfortunately, in politics it gets
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you through the door, and once you're in the door,
you get the auto pen and you get to stay
there for a while.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah. Well, in politics, unfortunately, Bill charm is the bottom line.
There was another study many years ago that found that
if people express themselves well, if they say something, well,
they will sway others no matter what it is that
they're selling. And you know, you look at Mam Donnie
getting back to him. I mean, here's a guy who
is a full blown communist, it seems. And no, that's
(20:12):
not a radical statement. He was actually seen in a
video that emerged recently from twenty twenty one talking to
a socialist group and he said one of their goals
he said this very casually, was quote the seizure of
the means of production. The seizure of the means of production. Now,
I did a little research as far as I can
tell this video is absolutely valid. It's authentic. It's not AI. Now,
(20:34):
if you're saying something like that, you're just a full
blown Marxist. You're like Mount Setungue or Joseph Stalin. And
that means this guy may have a nice smile, he
may be beautiful externally, but he could be a malevolent
creature on the inside. And he is definitely someone we
should be wary of. Bill.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Yeah, And like you said, how many other world leaders
going back in history had had the charm you know,
for the moment and time, and then what happened. It
did not turn out anywhere close to what they expected.
You know, they lost their liberties, they're under control, they
got a boot on their throats, and they're suffering. And
then you know we're back to which is a condition
(21:15):
of the ISM's shared misery.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Right right? Well absolutely, And you know it's interesting because
many years ago I actually wrote a poem titled The
Charmer about this very thing. But you know, it's just
unbelievable when you look at what's going on here with
this fellow Mamdani. I mean, we know that this does
not work socialism, and when you're talking about seizing the
means of production. Well, that absolutely would be disastrous. This
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is just insane. But you know it's interesting because I'll
illustrate how little many people know. About twenty five years ago, Bill,
I was teaching religious education and I was working one
on one with this fourteen year old boy in my area.
And I live in a suburb anyway, So when I
was trying to make certain points, I used Adolf Hitler
as an example of evil incarnate. Well, after a few weeks,
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you know what, the kid asked me, fourteen years old,
who's Adel Fiddler? He had no idea, And this was
about twenty five years ago, and I'm thinking to myself, well,
wait a second, now, if you don't know who Adel
Hiddler is, what do you know about history? That's a substance.
And this really is a testimonial as to how terrible
our education is nowadays. But again it also illustrates Bill
(22:23):
how there are many people out there who don't know
anything about what really matters politics, civics, history. Okay, so
again they're voting on emotional bases. And you know, this
is why the founding fathers stress that if you want
to be free, you have to have an educated electorate.
It is imperative. And more importantly, you have to have
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an electorate that has virtue in it. The founding Father's
strust that. And of course if they are virtuous, they
will educate themselves, because that's an aspect of virtue. Diligence
is a virtue. If you're diligent, you make sure you
cross all the t's and dot all the eyes, you
make sure you're conversant with the issues before casting that vote.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Exactly. And the also, the key idea was that in
order for us to manage this humongous opportunity and a
great American idea, it really was built on self rule.
And in order to have self rule rule, you had
to have all these elements, like you said, an educated constituency,
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people that just didn't, you know, have their heels up
on the desk. And because that had already been tried,
because even as our in our early foundings, the Pilgrims
came across and thought, okay, well we'll approach this in
a socialistic sort of manner, and they found out within
a year that didn't work right right.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Well, absolutely, I mean socialism actually the ideas that underpin
it were born long long before the Communist Manifesto was
written that that was published in eighteen forty eight. By
the way, I understand that they initially wanted to name
it the Socialist Manifesto, but they didn't do that because
the term socialism had already and discredited at the time
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because it was associated with so many wackos, so many
bizarre people. But if you look at history, we have
more than one hundred and fifty years of socialist failure
to look back on. Just take Robert Owen, the Scottish
quote reformer, and his little commune New Harmony in Indiana
in eighteen twenty six. He set up this commune. Now
he was probably a bill inspired by all of the
(24:23):
religious communes that existed at the time, some of which
were very successful. So he sets up this socialist like
commune where basically it is from each according to his
abilities and to each according to his needs. Supposedly. Well,
you know how long it lasted. It lasted two years
and then it started dissolving. Why because if you read
the history of it, they will say it attracted layabouts,
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it attracted irresponsible people, and that was on a very
very small scale, by the way. Okay, it didn't even
work there. You think that this is going to work
on a national scale, Never has, never will And if
you want to destroy wealth, that is the to do it.
Remember twenty thirteen Think Progress left wing site actually confess
that we were living in the most prosperous age worldwide
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in human history. Now why is that? That is because
of the industrial revolution and the spread of healthy market
systems which create wealth. They are wealth creation engines. That's
why you kill that golden goose. Forget about it. We're
going to see poverty like you can't imagine with having
more than eight billion people on the earth.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You imagine poverty, depression, suicide rate, violence, lawlessness. It all
goes down the proverbial toilet because you know, one of
the higher levels of our existence is to have that
ability to be productive selling. We want to be able
to feel at the end of the day we've earned
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our wage for the most part. Okay, are there exceptions,
I get that, But the heartbeat of America and the
magnet that draws people is that you can be productive,
you can be the captain of your own ship. And
you know it's you know, some government interference. I'm not
saying everything's perfect, but we're working on that. But nonetheless,
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I mean compared to anybody else in the world. I mean,
it's a pretty good idea here.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Yeah, well, it absolutely is. And like I said, see
part of the problem here is perspective. People don't have
things in perspective. They always see the glass too, many
of the young people, especially as half empty, when it's
way more than half full. And you know, as Milton Friedman,
the famed late economists, pointed out, you have to realize
that the norm for mankind was to live in grinding poverty.
(26:38):
I read once that the average life spend during the
Roman Empire was twenty two. I read that it was
in ancient Greece thirty five. Now these are approximations, but
the point is is that on average, if you factor
in infant mortality and childhood deaths from disease, people didn't
live very long. If you look at ancient Spartan boys
in their military camps, they subsisted off blood soup, whichrobably
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isn't as bad as it sounds. But they were hungry
all the time, and they were I think even expected
to steal to try to supplement their diets. So the
point is, and by the way, the average Spartan Hoplight
Warrior was only about five five, one hundred and thirty
five pounds. That's not portrayed and entertainment, and that's probably
largely because of their diet and by the way, they
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had it good compared to many people in this world.
I mean, there are so many people who have lived
in dire poverty and who died of starvation. We still
see this in Africa today when they were very, very young.
And again it's only free market systems, those wealth creation
engines that ended all that. As Milton Friedman put it,
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they catalyzed the creative capacities of the modern men because
they give you an incentive to create wealth, to take
the things you find on and in this earth and
combine them in ways so that you become innovative. You
invent new things in ways that enhance human existence. And
all of our modern science, all of our modern luxuries,
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everything we enjoy, the computer we're communicating through right now,
all these things are attributable to that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, exactly. Uh not by not by former Vice president.
I'm sorry to tell you Al Gore did not. But
you know, his dream lives on, His dream lives on,
you know, But that's Okay, we'll pretend, but you know,
but you're exactly right. And the thing is is that
Mamdani and his ilk would want us to be creative
(28:30):
and still productive, but he wants to come in and
steal what you've created, and he'll and he'll steal from
you all your productivity until you finally just give up.
And uh, and then what what's life worth living for? Then?
I mean, this is this is why these type of
programs are short, are short lived and uh, and they're
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very painful. And I hear it is our country was
so close just surrendering that you imagine if Kamala Harris
would have been elected over Donald Trump this time around,
where do you think we'd be at this point?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Oh? Well, it would just be awful. I mean, the
woman's incompetent. Who knows how she would be manipulated by
left wingers. And let's understand something, Bill. You know, Trump
won and we're saying, well, you know, he won the
popular vote and the electoral college, of course, but if
you look at many states in which he won, it
was really a very narrow margin and that should scare people.
And I know there was a lot of vote for
aud too, let's be honest about it. I think in
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this case, though, the election was just too big to rig.
But yes, these socialists would destroy us, and you take
mem Donnie. You know. The problem he has is that
he wants things like a thirty dollars minimum wage, which
by the way, would devastate little bodega's in New York City.
What are they going to do with that? He wants
free buses, He wants so many things that are going
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to be free. How are you going to pay for this?
He wants to tax millionaires more highly. Now here's the
problem he has. Bill. I don't think correct me if
I'm wrong. I don't think he's going to be able
to erect a Berlin Wall around New York City to
keep people in, which is what the Marxists did during
the Cold War. And what that means is you're going
to see a flight of capital of rich people from
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New York City like you haven't seen before. And I've
heard some left wingers say, well, nobody leaves New York. Really,
I left New York City decades ago, and I'm not
going back on a bed. I say to people, if
I never saw it again, it would be too soon.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Hey, and what's the occupancy rate right now in New
York I mean, how many apartments are emptied, which has
been unheard of for many years. And yes, there's been
such a flight out of there. I'm in Florida and
we warned Floridians not to stand close to the exit
doors or the entrances because people from New York are
(30:41):
flooding down here. You're gonna get a run over.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yeah, oh, absolutely, So he could really destroy New York,
which is one of the financial capitals of the world.
I mean, it's terrible, but again, the man is so charismatic.
He's the favorite right now, he's leading in the polls.
I wouldn't want to bit against him, and I don't
live in New York City anymore.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah, it's amazing. I mean I was looking at some
recent polls here. I mean, you know, to your point, Mom,
Donnie got forty one percent of the vote, Cuomo twenty
six percent, Eric Adams sixteen percent, Curtis Leewah less than
ten percent. You got fifty one percent of New Yorker
saying they would never vote for Adams. Okay, fifty one percent.
(31:22):
Forty six percent say they would never vote for Mom Donnie,
So you got what five percent spread there that'll probably
be chewed up if Cuomo does go independent and Slee
watch chips off some of that stuff as well. Yeah,
I mean the stars look like they're aligned for this guy.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Yeah, they really do. I mean, he actually has me
rooting for Eric Adams and I never thought that could
happen before you hobbied. It's ible, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Yeah, I know how you feel. And Curtis Lee was
a great guy. He's a nice guy and all that
he's you know, tried to do, and you know, in
protecting New York he's gotten beat up. I mean they
busted his ribs up and stuff. I mean, the poor
guy and here, but he's gonna he's gonna exacerbate the
problem because he's not going to get enough votes to
(32:13):
overcome I mean, to be where he's at. He's just
gonna be He's gonna be a spoiler. So I think
they need to get together somehow and talk strategically as
to what they can do. But yeah, I find myself
it's it is ironic to sit there and go, yeah, uh,
you know, Eric Adams is the best option right now.
(32:33):
But you know, we'll see we'll see how that plays out.
I did want to talk to you about another thing
that you recently wrote about, and that is that Donald
Trump is really has become the real Black Lives Matter president, right.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, he certainly has. And why I say that is
something most people don't know about. But Donald Trump recently
broke her to peace between the Democratic Republic of the
Congo and Rwanda. Now people might say, Duke, what are
you talking about. Well, this is one of those wars
that you don't hear about. But it's been going on
for decades, conflict between them, different wars I'm talking about,
and it's cost millions of lives. You know. We hear
(33:05):
about Ukraine, we hear about what's happening with Israel and
the Palestinians. We don't hear about things like this. And
like I said, Trump just broke her to peace. So
if this piece holds, and we don't know if it will,
human nature being what it is, but if it does,
Trump will have saved innumerable black lives. And this is
where the rubber hits the road because you look at
all these other people on the left, they say, oh,
(33:26):
I support Black Lives Matter, which we know the organization
is a complete fraud now. But the truth is their
policies cost black lives. And by the way, just talking
about that, that's another area where Trump actually has done
things beneficial for the black community. Because when you allow
crime to proliferate, which the left wing has done, no
cash bail, let's slap on the wrist, so called justice,
(33:48):
you know, in New York City and Philadelphia other places,
what happens is more minority people, black people die. Because
I'm a plurality of crime, I would say is black
on black, okay, So that's where the crime is in
these black communities. So when you see de policing like
you saw in the wake of the George Floyd riots,
where the police are afraid to do their duties, what
(34:10):
happens is more black people die, more black people get hurt,
innocent Black Americans. And Trump does something about that, or
at least he tries to, because he's a law and
order president. The left does not, because the left is
facilitating criminality. That's what it's doing. It's very very evil,
And as is always the case with these people, when
(34:30):
they accuse you of something like not caring about Black Americans,
it's because they are projecting their mindset onto you.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
They're excusing you of what they're guilty of themselves. How
come we can't get legitimate numbers on that that you
just mentioned. I mean, I know some of this is anecdotal.
Doctor John Lott, who is a researcher, has come up
with numbers and talking about law enforcement the way they
jury rig the numbers, and you know they've really manipulated
them in such a way. But yet we're still looking
(35:00):
for data that is legitimate that reinforces exactly what you
just said, and that is in these minority communities where
lawlessness takes over, you defund police and then look at
the rate of crime and murder and everything else.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah. Well absolutely, I mean there's no question about it.
This is what's been happening in these communities for a
very very long time now. And you mentioned the numbers. Bill, Well,
I remember some years ago. I don't know if this
is still the case, but you had major cities that
were not reporting their crime stats to the AQBAI. So
when the left wing media would say, well, crime is
down or crime is not up that much, the truth
(35:39):
is is they had huge holes in the data there.
I mean, it was completely invalid the claim, and the
truth is is when you have depolicing this was a
problem in Baltimore some years ago, probably still is, where
the police just stop arresting criminals and the ba's they
stop prosecuting criminals. Well, of course, then the crime rate
is going to appear to go down, but it's simply
(36:01):
because you're not arresting the criminals. That's like you said,
getting the real numbers can be very, very difficult. That's
smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well, if you remember the mayor of Baltimore, Oh, just
let them riot, you know, they need to get this
out of their system.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
What I mean Lake, Yeah, she said space to destroy.
That's how she put it. People who needed space to destroy.
They were going to give them room to do that.
I mean, it was just unbelievable. This is the mentality
we have here. It's crazy. That's what man Donnie would
bring to New York City right on steroids. I mean,
we just open all that up and look what happened.
(36:34):
I mean, just some minor law enforcement that Donald Trump
with the National Guard employed in Los Angeles. Seen if
he didn't do that, Alick could still be burning. You know,
oh absolutely, yeah, absolutely, you know the issues.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
You know, the looting. I mean they put the stop
to the looting right away. I mean they got away
with it for the first couple of nights. And you know,
Karen bas didn't seem to be too concerned about that.
You know, they could take up to one thousand dollars,
not a problem until the Feds came in and said, no,
you know, federal law is different. I don't care you
take a piece of gum, you're gonna get, You're gonna
go to jail, We're gonna we're gonna come after you.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Well, absolutely, listen. It's a basic function of the government
to ensure domestic tranquility. If the government does not perform
that role, and if it doesn't secure our borders, it
has no right to exist, no moral right at all.
These are basic functions. It's not a basic function to
facilitate the so called sex changes of children. It's not
a basic function to impose DEEI, which is poison, and
(37:34):
it's just officially sanctioned discrimination. None of these things are
basic functions. But taking care of crime is. And a
politician who doesn't resolve to do that shouldn't be elected.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Dogcatcher exactly. Well, speaking, of Charmers. Let's go to of course,
you know the top Bronx girl herself AOC. You right,
she's more suburban social list in Bronx Bolshevik.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yeah, here's another one. Now, by the way, you're actually
looking at a real Bronx boy. I know you can't
tell from the way I speak, you know what, I'm
following your build, but Moon but believe it or not.
I was born in Yonkers, which is a city that
abuts the Bronx, and then my parents lived in the
Bronx at the time, and I lived there for the
first twenty eight years of my life. Actually, now I
(38:24):
live in Westchester currently, which is where AOC Sandy Cortes
of Green Leafy Westchester, as I like to call her,
actually grew up. She only lived in the Bronx until
she was five years old. Then her parents took her
up to Yorktown Heights, which is a tony town, a
very very nice town. So she's a suburban girl. And
I've been to Yorktown Heights, very very nice place. But
(38:46):
you're not going to find the hood there. You're not
going to find the crips or the bloods there. But
you did find Sandy Cortes there, and if she was
taken out of the Bronx when she was a little
five year old, that means she doesn't even really remember
her time there. And I'm sure she visited relatives there,
I know that. But she's not a Bronx girl. But
you know what she is. She is another one like
(39:06):
Mim Donnie. She is someone who actually does have charisma. Now,
people on my side, they're going to say, wait a second,
what are you talking about. I can't stand the woman.
You've got to change your mentality. Put yourself in the
shoes of someone who's not confisant with the issues, who
doesn't know anything about ideology, doesn't know civics, who just
listens to her. You're going to see someone who's very fluent,
(39:28):
who can present things well, as one of her high
school teachers said, best presenter he ever saw. And you
know it's no coincidence because you know how she was chosen.
She was chosen by the Justice Democrats, a far left
wing group. They're socialists via what essentially was an audition.
An audition, that's how she got there. And you know,
(39:48):
here's the thing. You may find this interesting. This occurred
to me when I was writing my article about Mam Donnie.
But you know, in sports nowadays you see the competition
bill is tougher than ever. You know, the records now
are unbelievable. In the mid fifties, Roger Banister broke the
four minute mile, everyone thought that couldn't be done. Now
the boys high school record is three point fifty three
and change. Now, my point here is that I think
(40:10):
the competition for a charm in the charisma department in
politics has followed the same path. And I think that's
because of social media, because of the Internet. Agen. Yes,
you go back to the time before radio, it didn't
matter nearly as much because people usually didn't see the candidates.
Maybe they read about them in a newspaper, so they
(40:30):
might focus on what was told to them in that
paper about the candidate's positions. Then you had the radio,
you could hear them, but still it wasn't like the
television age. Then you had the television age, and you
had the first televised debate in nineteen sixty presidential debate
between JFK and Richard Nixon. And what happened there. What
happened there was that people who only heard it on
(40:51):
the radio thought Nixon won, but people who watched it
on TV thought jfk one why because he was younger,
better looking, Nixon had at five o'clock shadow, and JAF
he was sweating, right. And now we have the Internet
age with social media and podcasts, and now you have
television on steroids. So I think it's a situation where
(41:13):
as in sports you just have to be uber charismatic nowadays.
I don't like that fact because I don't vote on
that basis, but I just think that's the way it is.
And that's why I said in my article about Mamdani,
I think Republicans have to realize now when they're nominating
people that you've got to ask this question, can this person?
Would this person be able to successfully carry a podcast?
(41:36):
Because if the answer is no, if he can't do that,
maybe he can't carry the election in this age of
big time.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Well, I think that was the question that was asked
of Cuomo here, right, He meets with a donor and
the donor says, this guy doesn't have the passion. He
couldn't do a podcast, and so he says, I'm not
backing him. So he decides to put you know, his
chips on Adams. But going into the meeting, you know,
to your exact point, he was he was going to
(42:03):
cut a big check for Andrew Guomo.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Right. Well, you know, I think that's a very good
example because if you look at Andrew Cuomo, he's a
lot more charismatic than many. If you remember him during COVID,
he completely mismanaged it, but he would sit there and
he was being revered for a while. You know, in
that outfit he had that was dark, It almost looked
facistic to me. But he was giving these news conference
and telling these stories about his mother, and he's such
a good rock conteur, and he had people mesmerized, transfixed.
(42:29):
So he's not even bad in that department. But again,
HARKing back to what I said about the competition, he
still pales in comparison to mom Donnie, who not only
has more charisma. But you mentioned this, you know, he
says what he says with passion. He really seems to
believe in it. So maybe he's sincerely wrong. But I
guess maybe he is sincere I don't.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Know well, and I think you're right, sincerely wrong, because
we know that history and the evidence, the math won't
back up. I mean, you know he wants to I'm
done going back to Ma'm donnie again. He thinks he's
going to generate all the money that he needs, you know,
for free buses, free bus rides, what cities supported bodegas
(43:12):
and and and grocery stores? Are you kidding me? And
he's gonna he's going to tax the uber wealthy. I mean,
whoever stays in town, even even if you stopped it
right now and said, hey, run the math, run the
math on the numbers right now in the in the
you know, the uber wealthy. How much? How much money
(43:33):
are we talking about?
Speaker 3 (43:34):
Yeah, well exactly. You're dealing with the fluid situation. I mean,
you can't view it in a static way where you
raise taxes everything else stays the same so you generate
more revenue. It just doesn't work that way. If you
institute a law, what happens is people change their behavior.
It may seem unrelated, but this is an example of
what I'm talking about. In twenty twenty one, New Jersey
and acted a single use plastic bag bend because they
(43:56):
were saying, we wanted to save on plastic because it's
bad for the environment. You know what happened plastic use
for plastic bags increase three hundred percent. Why because people
had to use these so called reusable bags which require
fifteen times much as much plastic, but people don't use
them on average fifteen times as much. So again that's
an example of how you can't have people in government
(44:18):
who have these big egos and who think they can
micromanage things from the top because it just does not work.
You know, as Thomas soul has pointed out, most all
of us have expertise and only a very narrow range
of endeavor. And the truth is, you have to understand
that if you're in government, you have to have humility.
You have to understand that, for the most part, you
(44:39):
have to rely on the invisible hand of the market
to orchestrate things because it generally does not go wrong occasionally,
but not generally. Much better than having some oligarchy of
socialists of pseudo elites trying to control things from the
top down.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Well, you know, I guess in some sense where fortunate
that we have four recent years to use as a
comparative and the government was involved in everything, you know,
down to the light bulb that you screwed into your lamp.
You know, how how well did that work out for you?
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah? No, exactly. I mean this is the problem, and
a lot of well meaning people don't get it. You know,
I just gave you the example of the plastic bags
in New Jersey. You could have the best intentions in
the world, but the reality is is that none of
us know enough to orchestrate an entire economy from the
top down. Here's another example. According to Walter Williams, the
(45:33):
average supermarket stocks fifteen thousand items. Now, these are from
the world over. And if you're going to know what
you should stock, what you should discontinue, what you should introduce,
how much of each product, you have to be someone
who's an expert in that area and who's on the
ground there in the supermarket looking at sales. Do you
think some bureaucrat in Washington, DC could even come close
(45:57):
to doing that job? And it's not just that supermarket.
Apply that by ten thousand, because it's supermarkets everywhere. It's
other businesses of all different kinds, other entities. I mean,
it's just impossible. This whole situation is so complex that
you might say, if you're a futurist, a technocrat, well
maybe AI will be able to do it. Well, I
don't know. I wouldn't want to bank on that either,
(46:18):
because that's also a very risky proposition. You have to
rely on the market, because you know, Winston Churchill set
about democracy, it's absolutely the worst system in the world
except for all the rest. And what is the market?
The market is economic democracy. Every time we make a
purchase or retain a service, we're casting a vote. Within
(46:39):
the context of the system. We're deciding what products and
services will prevail. And you can say the same thing
about the free market that you could say about democracy.
It's absolutely the worst system in the world except for
all the rest.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
But you know, if you think about it, so in
the cumulative intelligence of what three hundred and fifty billions,
are we three hundred FFT billion? And no, we're three
hundred fifty million three Yeah, So so here we are
the cumulative intelligence of our population, and you know, and
you want to just take that out of the mix.
(47:14):
I mean, I think that we saw what happened with COVID,
for example, you didn't want to listen to what was
happening on the ground. You wanted to talk from on
high and your ivory towers and you end up killing
a lot of people unnecessarily when we had we had
the the not necessarily vaccines, but we had the medicine
(47:35):
that could have solved the problem. And of course we're
finding this out, you know, five years down the road
after you know, millions of people have died.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Absolutely absolutely, Well, what did Reagan say? The nine scariest
words in the English language are I'm from the government
and I'm here to help you know, it really is true.
And again we need some government. We understand that we're
not anarchists, but you can't have the government get involved
in too many things. And let me tell you what
governs this. I know we don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He let's do this. We got about a minute left.
I'm going to let you summarize it and bring us home.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Go ahead, Okay. The principle is called subsidiarity. Now what
that means is that if a task has to be
performed in society, the smallest possible unit of society that
can possibly perform that task should be the one to
do so. So it's something the family can do. Then
you don't outsource that to a larger entity like a
community organization. If the family can't. You don't go straight
(48:30):
to the federal government. You go to that community organization
or the local government. If it can't do it, you
go to the state. But that's the principle that governs
this subsidiarity. People like these left wingers Mamdannie Sandy Cortez,
they want to go right to the Feds with everything.
That is a recipe for disaster. We saw that with
the Soviet Union. It does not work that way.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Lies madness, what hubris that they think they know better? Right,
and look at the proof that they show us. They
show us time and again they don't. And when we're
caught in this trap, as Elvis Presley would say, but
we'll leave it there. Sew and Duke, you're awesome. Thank
you so much for being with us, selling Duke as
a writer for The New American, The Hill Observer, The
(49:12):
American Conservative, WorldNet, Daily, American Thinker, and many other print
and online publications. Thank you, my friend. Appreciate the insight.
Take care, God bless Thanks gentlemen, Thank you for being
with us. Someone brought a lot to the front here
and I'm sure it has given you a lot to
think about. And I pray that you were blessed by this.
(49:33):
Thank you so much again for sharing some time with
us and with Selwyn Duke. May God bless you and
keep you, may make his face shine upon you, May
be gracious unto you and give you peace. God bless
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