Bad Boy Club

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Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, hello and welcome. No Friday's a bad Friday.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
God, I'm freaking exhausted for walking around Holy hell, freaking
kids trickle Treaer for like three and a half hours.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
But I used to love. I have videos I found
on a video of Jamison years ago where no dress
up as Elm but you can tell like he's eight
years younger than Jordan, ten years younger than Jackson, and
it's like a whole different generation because his entire life
people were talking into their phones. So I turned the

(02:43):
phone on him and you had to be four or five,
and he's and this lady, he goes up and she
goes take two handfuls like this.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
He goes, all right, guys, hope you're having a great Halloween.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Be sure to think say hi to everybody, and like
you were livestreaming your tricker tree like yeah, he was,
like he it was unbelievable. He didn't miss a beat.
And I never said to you talk to like you're doing. Hey, guys,
just got it. I hope you had a great halloween.
Got a lot of candy? Remember this jam is I
just thought of it now, So no, I don't have
it on my Phone's still Mom's phone.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
And that I was recording YouTube videos.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh yes, back to the hey twin of us.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
My kids take my phone and try to make YouTube videos.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I got I got to hide that one package of
videos pictures.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
You got a fight with Lucas the other day. He
really thinks that he should have a phone and a
TV in his bedroom.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
I'm like, you are nine, You're not okay. So with
our guys, old lady got a TV in his room
this year.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
He's ten, but it was more because I'm just titled
listening to him played Fortnite.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's hard because the youngest, right, but they just started
listening to play Fortnite. Yeah, so I want to watch
the TV.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
See they have a boat. I have a bonus room
and there you can watch TV with you. They play video.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I would like there to be I did let Jameson
have a TV, but I wish there was no like electronics.
I think you should be sleep yep and whatever else
you do in there. I fell asleep from my phone today.
I woke up earlier than I have all the school years.
So yeah, but I take your phone away from yah exactly.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
And I didn't wake up.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
As early well okay, but thirteen and then he was
stealing their phones and stuff and stealing all their dust.
That by like ten or nine. I think at nine,
you I think.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
Used to steep. I literally had it on video in Pittsford.
I was trying to record the elf on the shelf.
Move on my orange laptop, Jackson.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Wait, what do you mean, the elf on the shelf moves.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I don't know anyway, and he tried to take it. Yes,
but you used to steal, used to steal it. So
we wound up letting you have a phone at nine
and Jordan flipped his lid. Who's so fair? I had
a way till I was stirteen. Oh yeah, yeah, so
pissed off.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
There's a book I just purchased that is talking about
how bad it is for kids to have phones.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
Oh big thing on uh, Good Morning America, this morning,
the screen time stuff. I didn't stick around because it
was on after eight o'clock and I usually go to
something else. But yeah, it is bad. What book?

Speaker 5 (05:20):
It's called The Anxious Generation. And I heard about it
from our school's principal who I'm friends with, and she's like,
read it, like you'll never want the kids to have
a phone.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I think it sucks up our brain.
Yeah I do. I think that it makes you dependent
on too much stuff. And but police subscribe to my podcast,
and why is it I think listening? That's that was
really my intention with the podcast video podcasts, and the
stuff has become provalent.

Speaker 7 (05:51):
You can't say that if the people watching, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
Mean they watched for your dad's good looks.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Obviously. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. Answer I what's that? What
did you just say? What did you say? What did
he says?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
So good lucky people watching in pictures?

Speaker 8 (06:09):
It was corny. It was a joke.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I was trying to sound lame. What did you say?
I got riz?

Speaker 8 (06:13):
That's a joke.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
No, you don't what you don't want to know? Okay,
tell you'll figure it out. No, tell what it's short for?

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Charisma?

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Okay, No, I know it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Charisma. That guy's got w rez. You don't think girls,
you don't think. You don't think that I have rigs.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
No, you're a grown.

Speaker 9 (06:33):
Man talking about No, you don't think I have.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Right now and dead like the girl that I walked past,
I just breathe next to a girl that's freaking.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Your dad has charisma?

Speaker 7 (06:45):
Ah, I mean yeah, to be on Live talking about
I've got fifty three, that's charisma right there.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Take some balls to say that you don't know how
much you're going to aid to this next year him living?

Speaker 8 (07:00):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I don't I get younger. I think I am. I
think I am gonna get video of.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Him dance a lot of a lot of shit over
here for somebod who just bought him dinner.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
I know the kid talks mad Ship all the time,
mad Ship, but I dude, you're talking mad Ship, right.
I find it. But I but to see the bad
part with me is I I laugh at it, and
I play into it, and I gotta draw stronger boundaries.
I'm aware of it.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
When we're playing basketball, He'll start talking mess and as
soon as I start beating him, like I'm coming up
on the right side of the court, and I go,
this is all I.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
Do, boom boom, and he goes like this.

Speaker 7 (07:36):
Like the jumpman will go and just jumps a way.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's bad. It's bad. I will admit. Look, I have said,
he'll be like this.

Speaker 6 (07:43):
Look.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Look he'll be coming up the court. I'm like, oh,
you're a scrub. He'll be like, oh yeah, oh yeah,
hold on, what's this and missed the ball. That's exactly
how he sounds. All hang on a second, I didn't
want to. Let's not go down this path. On the
went zero.

Speaker 7 (07:57):
Point five from the field goal.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
All right. I have said many times in this podcast
that I love the game of basketball, but I never
really played in an organized setting because I had never
gotten cut, and I from anything. I went out. I
made it. I was on a varsity team. Team. No,
I didn't.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
You didn't.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
No, No, I didn't get what mom was saying. You
were tackling people and I got in trouble. I didn't
know how to play, so I just ran through people.
I got punched in the face, and I loved it.
I liked it even more. But no, I did not
get cut. I there was never a sport like I cut.
And in eighth grade, I was on varsity for sports

(08:37):
because you had to take well, it's not that hard.
You had to take a New York State test. You
had to do so many sit ups in a minute
and all this other stuff. And so I did it.
Me and this other kid did it, and I was
on So I always I couldn't handle it.

Speaker 7 (08:51):
If I got this kid, Marco, I'm pretty sure he's
on freshman JVN varsity. He's long, he's a long snap
for varsity for the high school. He's buys you. He
just became a freshman. He has been on varsity since
like maybe the seventh or eighth grade.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
There's some people are just amazing. He's back up QB
further varsity.

Speaker 7 (09:08):
He's a QB for JV and freshman.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think okay. I wanted to ask Laura a couple
of different questions and when it came to, uh, getting
inside the mind of a woman. Oh okay, okay, So
these would be things that huh, things that that women
want men to know or men should know instinctively, but don't. Okay, Okay.

(09:31):
So no, it's your brother. Pick it up and see
what he asks. I can't because I know what he's
gonna say. I can't. I can't stop your brother. This
is gonna be my fucking life. Jordan. Jordan's heard himself.

(09:58):
Had don't he fractured his shoulder? Oh, they did an
MRI today. His shoulder is screwed up. He's probably gonna
need surgery. Okay. So that could prevent him from coming
to Thanksgiving, and I don't know about Christmas and all.

Speaker 8 (10:12):
His girlfriends still coming to Thanksgiving. He doesn't come.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
He's your and so there's there's a lot going on it.
I will deal with that later, but none of this
stuff needs to be on the podcast at the moment.
As you're Chinese ready, I think it is Oh, oh,
you're just trying to get rid of it her. Yes, confidence,
throw it out there. Yeah, it's my risk. Confidence.

Speaker 7 (10:33):
This is with a fourteen year old boy and you're
fifty three. Yeah, all right for the police, right there?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Turn Okay, confidence versus cockiness.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Yes, okay, what I have said this in the past.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, because there is cocky, yeah, and then there's confidence. Yeah,
and there's a fine line. But some guys think they're confident,
but they come off as cocky cocky. Yeah, yeah, I'm
not sure where that. I always just think, what do
you I just always think that the confidence is just

(11:08):
sort of that quiet you just the cockiness.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Is the gloating. Yes, yeah, it's disgusting, Yes it is. Yeah,
when a man thinks that he's better than another person
for any reason, like you're not.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, who was to say it?

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Exactly?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
You know, exactly? Right back off for pete, If you
have confidence, a not that great looking guy could be
so much more attractive.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Let me tell you. Hell ladies there.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
But like then if you're a cocky, a really good
looking guy could lose point. Oh god, yeah, I would
be like discuss it.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I just tell your ass what good in the concert
right there?

Speaker 1 (12:11):
What is going on? I've lost total control of whatever
is happening. Anyways, he's confident.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Do you like this, ask Jesus Christ turns around.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I don't know that. You turn around? He say he's
cocky too, all right, why and there's a word. Okay,
So the difference I think we all kind of know
the difference with doing cocky in it. But there used
to be girls were attracted to sort of that bad
boy and I think that there are still some women
that are attracted to that.

Speaker 5 (12:39):
I like the bad boy energy, but like there's again
there's a difference, like that cockiness. There could be like
you could take anyone and if they're cocky, it just
takes them thing. If they're downgraded, Like I just don't,
I don't know. That is not going to be my
type of person. Dumpling, yeah, tons whatever.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Well, Stephanie's friend was in here and she's saying that
she's recently divorced and she's in the bad boy phase
right now.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yes, right, But I think you can be a bad
boy and confident in your bad boy yeah, silent type
without being cocky. Cocky is usually flashy looking for attention.
Look at me, I know what you're gonna say.

Speaker 8 (13:22):
I mean, like your son over here.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, No, that's just showing off. I
don't know if that's cocky. Maybe.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
I also think there's like a thing of if you
add into this masculinity, like you know, having that masculine
energy and being confident, yes, but not cocky, can still work.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Talk to me about toxic masculinity, which I hear a
lot and I think is a problem. I'll tell you
what I'm I'm starting to believe and I think more
maybe because Jamison's back in my life as a more
every day present. I think that a lost thing that
we don't really focus on as young men. I think

(14:07):
that young men like there is that you know, we
hear about toxic masculinity, but I think that women like
a man. I think there's a fine line. I think
there's times where you don't want to be sexist or misogynistic,
and there's ways to do that. But I do think
that the masculine energy, as you're saying, is what many
women are attracted to.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
You want a guy the father too, Yeah, Like you're
gonna have that same kind of energy as your father.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, let me ask you here, here's a question I have.
Did your dad tell you he loved you when you
were little? Do you remember that? I don't think so. Okay, no,
And I think that that's probably the answer most guys
your age, my age, My dad did, but not frequently.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
I think.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I tell these guys all the time, so have we evolved? Absolutely?
But are we? But I feel like we lose a
little bit of our our edge. I think like they
don't know how to act, they don't know how to be,
and that's that was one of the reasons I was
such a fan of of you know, his brother going
to McQuaid because it was all guys, yep, and there
was something about that there that they handled things differently

(15:13):
than you would in a co ed school, you know,
and you could say good or bad. Now, okay, I
guess it's open to interpretation. I just think sometimes we're
not teaching young men how to do it. We're trying
to take these kids or telling them not to. You
got a lot of energy, little you know, the boys
have a lot of energy and they need to burn
that off. You need they need to be tired, they
need to be wrestling, they need to be doing this shit.

(15:35):
And we don't allow them to. And we want them
to sit in desks for six hours a day or
whatever it is and pay attention and be it. And
we're trying to put a you know, a square peg
in a round hole sometimes, and I really think that
that sort of becomes a problem, and you've got this
generation of guys who have no idea what the fuck
to do.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
I don't think standard education is right for every child.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I agree with you. I think that's but.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
That's New York State standards, like yeah, but I think.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
It's right, and I think it's pretty much everywhere around
the country. I just I don't know. I didn't mean
to go off on this just clipped into my head
as you're saying it, and I'm going I really feel
like more and more. I'm not saying you got to
be the big macho I'm gonna you're not a house ape.
That's not what I'm saying. But there is some masculinity
and you got to have you know, I have a

(16:21):
little balls about you.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
Gender roles have also switched so much in terms of
like graduating college and graduating high school. Now women are
graduating at a higher rate than men are, and women
are starting more businesses and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Congratulations you didn't yeah about seven.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
But it's I mean, I hate if a man is
ever intimidated by women's success.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
That I think it's weak, that's weak and the guy
I really do feel it, and I can tell you
that at one point in my life I think I was.
But when I first got married, I think my wife
certainly made more maybe maybe double.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
I think Joe felt like a little intimidated at first,
but then he's like, but.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I've gotten to the point where I fuck it, I
don't care. Yeah, I mean I've I've had it all,
lost it all, had it more, lost it again. But
it's also like it's.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
So hard and like, you know, I want that masculine energy,
like someone who's comforting and confident that they're going to
be a guy, but not like a cocky asshole. I mean,
if you're playing sports and if he like when he's
playing basketball and he's talking shit, like I think that's fun,

(17:39):
Like I like that, but that's not like cocky personality.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's just yeah, that's just in the moment on the field's.

Speaker 8 (17:47):
Air ball.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, thank you, that's awesome. How come women will say
they're fine when they're.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Clearly not, and it has become idiotic.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
But fine is a word I have come to hate. Yeah,
and I'm fine when I hear fine. And if anybody
says to me, this is you know, how was it fine?
I always go it doesn't mean it's that good. I
find fine to be more negative than positive.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
I say fine about like sometimes a day like how
was your day?

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Is fine? Well, and I know it's like, eh, yeah
it was that eh.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
But like if you are sort of there's tension between
you as a couple and you ask your partner like
are you okay? And they say, I'm fine, that's just
it's you don't have good communication.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
I think that that seems to be a younger woman
thing lately.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
You think I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean not that I'm around a lot of women,
but I would say that any women, they seem to
be more What the fuck go ahead?

Speaker 5 (18:51):
What are you thinking that's no risk because you're not
around woman, I'm gonna guess that that's.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
What'd What are you gonna say?

Speaker 7 (18:56):
I know all about women, even though not around them
a lot.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
You know what I'm saying, Like, I think that, uh yeah, fine.
It's become a word. But I think that most older people,
especially people who've been in I'd say you got a
little water under the bridge of relationships that you know
how to communicate. You knew what worked and what didn't work,
and so maybe I don't you don't stay fine as much.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
I also think that there's when you start. If you're
dating someone, I think it's very important to discuss your communication,
behavior and how you fight. If I'm in a fight
with someone, if I'm fighting with Joe, which has happened,
I just want to be left alone and chills, like

(19:47):
I just sort of need to calm down. I need
to decompressed. Like so, if you're pestering me, I'll be
like I'm fine, fine, Like I but I've told him,
I'm like, just let me go.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Like, yes, Jamison, what do you want to add?

Speaker 7 (20:03):
But when it comes to it, like who says sorry,
Like let's say he's in the wrong, but he doesn't
know he's in the wrong. You can't say sorry, and
then he's gonna feel like.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
But even if sometimes even if you admit that you're
in the wrong, I'm still gonna be upset about that action.
I'll accept your apology, but I still just need my
time to calm down.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Like that's just how I know. But you're upfront about that.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Yeah yeah, like like I'm not mad, but please just
let me have it.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I saw some silly rom com thing where uh, chick
was with the guy, parents loved the guy. She's like
everything was great. We never fought and that was the
problem because I.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
Don't think you challenge each other enough. Then yeah, not
like I pick fights, but I'm also I we have
different opinions, like if you would have the if you're
with someone who's the exact same opinions as you, likes
to do everything that you want to do, Like where's
your individuality?

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Yes, Jamison, I feel like my generation is so messed up.
And even like people like a few years older than me,
if let's say they were in a relationship and they
got into a fight, the girl's gonna go try to
get get back and get with another dude or something.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Like that, Well that's immaturity.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
That yeah, that and that and that would be young, right,
that's what young people will do and not and not
work it out. And you're right, that is it's a
bad thing. Where what was I think there's a movie
is that the Thomas Crown Affair with Dennis Leary, and
Dennis Leary's like the cop and he got divorced and
he's like, yeah, I went out and I like, I

(21:37):
got drunk and I slept with three women that night
or whatever. And he's like, and I have nothing to
show for it was awful. But that's how a lot
of a lot of guys get over to me.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I saw the movie Thomas Crown Affair, but that does
not you know, he didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Pay tention enough. But I like, I like Dennis all right, Uh,
let me see one one last one for you beyond
the cool girl myth? Why are women? Women are done pretending?
Because there's a lot of cultural pressure I think on
women to try to fit in, to do this, to
do that, and maybe where things.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
I think it's all because you think it's dip a
little bit. Because I think people have realized how fake
social media is. I think that there's more influencers now
who call out other influencers on their editing of their
bodies and you know, putting out unrealistic things and you

(22:36):
know it just I think I think people are accepting
of more individuality. And if you think about the the
fashion models back in the day, Kate Moss like anas thing,
and now you think about a lot of.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Beauty changed. Yeah, it's just Jamison was saying that to
me or somebody will yesterday, Like the Kardashians are not
your waif model.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
No, but like even there are like everyday people who
are out there that are just showing like, yes, I'm
being strong as a woman, like you know that's more.

Speaker 8 (23:15):
Well, let me.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Ask you this. Okay, here's where I got, all right,
and then we'll wrap it up. If this goes away
from the women thing, are we too accepting to some
degree to the point of people or have unhealthy habits
and we're not calling them on it. You know what
I'm saying, this is my body, except me for the
way I am.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Well, you're out of shape, you're fat, You're gonna be
a drain on the healthcare system at some point.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Stop beating this shit. You know. Do you understand what I'm.

Speaker 5 (23:41):
Saying when people use it as an excuse.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, but that's but I'm not saying we should be
making fun of someone that I feel like is the
greater thing, and yet I'm very guilty of that. I mean,
if I'm sticking with a bunch of guys. Well, I'll
pick on I don't care what gender, if something's funny, funny.
But at the same time, all this except and sometimes
we're accepting unhealthy stuff and what happened to a little

(24:06):
bit of shame that can bring you back just a
little bit, just a little bit. I think like you
and all your buddies go to burn and work your
asses off.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
Well, but if somebody burne is also like if a
larger female or male comes in and wants to try
it out, I'm not going to like critique them. I'm
going to go and I'm going to be welcoming, so welcoming,
and I tell everybody who tries it out, and I'll
tell you the day that you come in and actually
show face there with Randy Jamie and I, I'll say, look,

(24:41):
you're struggling right now. You're supposed to struggle every day.
I've been there every single day for six years. I
still struggle every day.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Like that's what you're gonna say to me if I go, yeah,
I've been I went to a spin class today.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Now congratulations, where the why? Oh you want to come
back to embody and do some yoga? With me this month.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Uh do I want to go back back to m body.
I love embody and I love Molly. Yeah. But and
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Speaker 5 (25:09):
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It's great, really good for you. All Right, we'll uh,
we'll take a moment a little shame and we'll do
a sugar Yeah, wash your sugar as I just.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
Whatever.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
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Speaker 5 (28:48):
No, but I'm gonna guess John Mayer.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Oh oh, I'm so proud right now.

Speaker 10 (28:53):
Maybe here I am Kenny, Yeah, Hick and dust in
the canyon, wading for that sun and go.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
You know the song.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
They announced either Hammer Wildwood last year, So somebody announced
I saw we.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Have Lany Wilson.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You're going back.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
Yeah, we already have that book made me.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
I gotta think of who else Brooks is like the opener.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
I'll put you towards the good hotel there.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
That is one of my h one of my favorite
singers on this song with him.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
One more.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Grace Potter. I love Grace Potter. All right, Kevin's got
a theme that tune and he told me that this
is uh. I think he's calling it legendary.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
I didn't say legendary. So the song is gonna be
a little tougher O Jesus, but.

Speaker 8 (29:56):
The theme, I stand by it.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Okay, all right, here we go. Theme that tune. I'm nervous.

Speaker 8 (30:04):
The way you're.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Bathed in life reminds me. Then n God, letting me
down into your God true first.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
It's his favorite song by this band.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Away really nothing else to say.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
The voice is very distant.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Ease you let me to find soon when the time.

Speaker 8 (30:35):
Is, when its going to miss me?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Nick, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
I wrote down a bad but I think it's wrong.

Speaker 11 (30:42):
Cool, Yeah, baby, how you doing it? You know?

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Lady?

Speaker 8 (31:14):
Close show?

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Oh, Kevin knows Kevin like I can't. I'm I want
to step on the scene.

Speaker 8 (31:47):
Y'all know me.

Speaker 12 (31:49):
Because I walk with a limp like a whole school bip.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
O real O G. I'm rocking bands.

Speaker 12 (31:55):
I'm in the scene. I got a rebel and vodka
up in my head. You're looking not a cute in
that POKONDAPKINI girl, This is what.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
I want to do.

Speaker 12 (32:12):
Yeah, we take off that pokai girl, old day.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
What do we get for ten dollars?

Speaker 10 (32:21):
Oh fretue want everything everything? Oh wait, it's Laura's Ringtom.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
That's when she gets her to call for the Freak
Festival Florida or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, so it's gotta have a.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Sex thing into it.

Speaker 5 (33:03):
I'm doing so bad at you so too.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
That might legitimately be the furthest thing from the theme
as possible.

Speaker 6 (33:14):
My first.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
This is another song I forgot about for years.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I know it and I don't know that in a.

Speaker 11 (33:24):
Second, will be.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Will be fine?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
You make me?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Oh, mister world, Wat's infinitey?

Speaker 6 (33:54):
You know the roof one five? We go bookie, okay,
ok jag, We'll go and dance like the roof one five.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
We go to drinks and taste.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Hows until we found out take a roof on five,
not baby, give my booty naked, take off of your
clothes and light roof.

Speaker 1 (34:07):
Tell him baby, I'm on five. I tell him, baby
baby ba baby baby, I'm a fire all suck up,

(34:31):
give a little girl, get any.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
Give a little bear, bring them all to that.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
But I don't know, you don't know. Yes, I scored
two points on that one. Yes, finally it's all I got.
Why don't see?

Speaker 9 (34:58):
Sit right back and I my mates. You know at
heil a tail of three little pigs and jam big
bad wol.

Speaker 8 (35:27):
I thought, like cheer.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Well, first little piggy will. He was tired, and he
spent most of his day just a dreaming on the city.
And then one day he body guitar.

Speaker 9 (35:46):
He moved to Hollywood to become a star.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Well thing on the farmy.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Knew nothing on the city, built his house out of
straw would an.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
Then one day, samon, I gotta let this girl of
the hook. I got to.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Let me the hell back to the top.

Speaker 8 (36:12):
Are you still thinking over there?

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Number two?

Speaker 3 (36:14):
I keep saying, I'm gonna go back to the top
where you're bathed in lay reminds me. Then you said
you wrote down a band. What'd you write down?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I originally wrote down Creed, I crossed it out, and
I wrote down seven dust is neither Creed nor seven dust.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Creed is a good guy.

Speaker 8 (36:32):
I wrote down a puddle of mud, but.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
It's live Oh god, the dolphins crossed. Yes, yes, yes,
that makes a lot of sense live.

Speaker 8 (36:42):
The song.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
I know it, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, I didn't. I don't think I have anytime by
Brian mcdnight.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
I would never have gotten to that.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
L m f A l m f A. Oh yeah,
but I don't know the song.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
I just read bikinis.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I'm in Miami, bitch alight, I got one point.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
That's my first point.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Okay, me too. I just said be so horny, but
I don't even know it is me so Harry me too.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I know two Live Crew. Oh yeah, bad Boys. It
is bad Boy or bad Boy, bad bad, bad Boy.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
I should I know it's not her, but I wrote
Paul me.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Too, glory stuff ont of the Miami song Machine.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
You wrote as well.

Speaker 8 (37:42):
Should have gotten this one, yeah, Pitbull Fireball.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yes, yes, Fireball, that's what I wrote originally, numb my
super tramp. This is given a little bit by the
Goo Goo Dolls.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
A little bit.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
I knew it was that song, and I don't know.
I've said American idiots. Uh, three little pigs, it's three pigs.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I wrote weird.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I would have given you green jelly or Green Jello.
Any thoughts on a theme.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
For tonight weird ass songs?

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (38:24):
When I tell you the theme, you're and I explained
to you each song you're gonna be.

Speaker 13 (38:28):
Like, Ah, I gotta say, are they all covers?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (38:43):
They are not all covers?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 8 (38:46):
Songs inspired by the Bills and Dolphins. This week the.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Dolphins cry Brian McKnight from Buffalo, I'm in Miami, bitch
by Ala Misa, Horny two Live Crew from Miami, Miami,
sound Machine Boy, look at Mister Worldwide, Fireball food dolls
from Buffalo, and Green Jelly.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
Originally from Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I didn't know Green Jelly.

Speaker 8 (39:08):
I did not either until today.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's very good though, good, good theme good.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
Whatever you thought it was, sa I did?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
I did?

Speaker 3 (39:16):
I did because it means so horny.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
And then the l M F A O with the bikini. Yeah,
and I did see today speaking of there was something
that said me so horning and it was one hundred
and seven year old woman the horn Did you see it?
What is it? I feel like it's like your nails
or something.

Speaker 8 (39:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It was grown cartilage. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
I saw it, but I didn't really pay that to it.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, she had a horn grew out of her head
one hundred and seven, one hundred and seven. I guess
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(42:44):
have a question because Greg Connor's future owner of the
Buffalo Bills, is going to join us. Are there too
many Bandwagon fans nowadays of the Bills? I'm just asking.
I don't know too many Bandwagon fans that much.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
Allan, Well, that's a good point because they almost traveled
ball and they've always had presents. When we went to
Dune for my sister law's wedding, we went to a
Bills bar.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
But I feel like the media is giving them more
attention than they ever.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
Have and still I think it's as he was at
the World Series last night, yeah, oh he was. He
was a game for He was out in the right
field catching balls with more on all that is our
good friend Greg Craig.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Where are you? Oh, you're in the man cave. Okay,
hang on one second. Here, you're in the man cave.
I first didn't recognize. I thought you were. It looked
like he was standing in a mall somewhere like it did.
It looks very I recognize that. Yeah, so I didn't
know where he was exactly. Yes. So look, we're coming

(43:51):
up on the trade deadline next week and there have
been still some interesting rumors involving the Buffalo Bills as
possible landing spots for I'm going to say marquee name players.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
It's destination. I mean, I mean, look what's happening the
teams that aren't really in it anymore. We're trying to
get value for some big contracts, people at the end
of their contracts, and some of these guys want to
win the Super Bowl, and the Bills are perfectly positioned.
I didn't think the Bills are going to be six
and two at this point in time. I thought if
they were going to be five and three, that would

(44:27):
be fantastic. I thought perhaps maybe even four and four.
So the Bills right now, you know, coming into this
Dolphins game in Buffalo and the friendly confines of Hei
Mark Stadium, where Bill's mafia is going to be in
full force going crazy. You know, they're they're they're sitting.
This is a position we want to be in, that's

(44:47):
for sure.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I don't buy Buffalo unforcedly greg as a destination. I mean,
I still think a lot of the and it's not
just the Bills, it's the Sabers. They have a hot,
really hard time getting those Marquis free agents to come in.
They typically have to overpay because there's just would you
rather go to New York play for the Giants or
jetfre You've got New York City where the Rams are

(45:09):
Chargers now now, or would you rather go to Buffalo
where you've got nothing going on?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
I feel like Buffalo is getting those market names and they.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Paid over Maybe they were. They were paid for Mario Williams,
they overpaid for for Vaughan. I mean, and I get
it they have to because there's just nothing. Who wants
to go to Buffalo?

Speaker 8 (45:30):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, I'm not the same thing with Green Bay, who
wants to go to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm not sure anymore.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
Hey, they paid what they paid for Vaughn because that's
what the Bills needed. That was what they needed to
get over the hump, is what being a McDermott thought.
To get over the hump against the Chiefs, they needed
to have that guy on the team because Jerry Hughes
wasn't him, right, we thought he was that guy. In
that thirteen seconds, Hughes did not make a play. We

(45:58):
had to get somebody to make a play. They want
after it. You pay for what you need, and that's
what they did in terms of destination points. Look, you
tell me one person who's in the NFL whose team
is crap right now, who doesn't have a chance for
the playoffs, let alone the super Bowl, and they can
get an opportunity to come and play for the Bills

(46:19):
with Brett with you know, and you've got Josh Allen,
and you've got it. You've got a defense that is
playing above perhaps where their pay grade is right now,
and you can come in and make a difference. Heck, yeah,
I'm there. Give me that chance. Oh, by the way,
I will be the most beloved player of the Bills
moth in their history.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Well, you're right, I mean, that's a great sales job,
and that's true. But I do think, and only because
I think that the world has shrunk today, and these
guys are so rich that if they want to jump
on a private jet and book it for after the game,
that they could take off. And I know what you're
saying because I remember Marcellus Wiley saying at a one

(47:02):
o'clock game, your adrenaline would be so up that you
couldn't even be calmed down by eleven o'clock at night. Now,
just think about that. I've never had an experience like that.
I mean, the closer I came was drag racing, right,
that adrenaline was kicking, but certainly not to that level.
I went to bed and.

Speaker 8 (47:19):
You don't want to end up on and you don't
want to end up on shipwab because you're gonna end.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Up in trouble. Well look at everywhere saying.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Patrick Kane punching taxi cab drivers there, Cad.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
Look man, I've had that level of a run win.
After the podcast, Yes, I love you, I had to
go get some tks.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
But you know what I mean, Greg, Like I I
so what he would say is they would go to
Toronto because they could gamble and they could do that.
And I think that's what Kevin's saying, is that there's
more attractive cities. But I'm wondering if the world had
shrunk in a sense that the salaries that these guys
are making, they could do anything. And most of them
are pretty disciplined nowadays during the season anyway.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Yeah, but a lot of them aren't making that. I mean,
how many guys on the team are making that big
Josh Allen money. They're not. But I'm thinking, man, you
guys are like John Andersen, who's making fifty bucks a game.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
But if you knew somebody who was making a million
and a half that was a buddy of yours, that's
you know.

Speaker 8 (48:13):
What I mean?

Speaker 6 (48:14):
Seven and fifty thousand? Yeah, right, fifty bucks a game?
What do you think this is?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Going on?

Speaker 6 (48:20):
Red Raiders laying down there? Come on, man, this is the.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Compared to what Josh is making.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
He's making fifty bucks a.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Game by comparison, But Josh or Rock Purty but underpaid, right,
But brock Purty, even at eight hundred thousand, you could
do a lot of great things with that money and
live very very well. Right if we were making do
you understand what I'm saying, Like, take it out of
the realm of comparison to the other guys, it's still
a tremendous You have to you have to have that
discipline to not spend like you've got fifteen million, you're

(48:49):
really making eight hundred.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
For me, the issue, you know, when you're talking about
destination points and you're talking about these guys number one,
who you're playing for or and the team that you're on,
do you fit? I mean, for me, Bean is looking
for the guys that fit where they have holes, Guys
that are fit the personality of this team. You know,

(49:13):
Amari Cooper, as crazy as it sounds, his personality fits
right into what they do. They're humble and they're hungry.
You know, you bring in a guy like Devonte Adams,
you know, I honestly feel that Bean was in the
hunt as a distraction to keep everybody away from Amari Cooper.
And then boom, as soon as Adams got smuggled up

(49:34):
by the Jets. Boy, what a great move that was.
All of a sudden, he's right there. He picked up
Cooper less than twenty four hours later. He fits the system.
He does a couple different people that we got to
get in here, and that I love the fact that
people around the country are talking about the Buffalo Bills.
I love being relevant in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
Kevin, who are the people the names that you were
saying today that you're hearing rumored?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
And I know, like I had heard rumors of Cooper
Cup and I had heard that Trey White was expressing
the ability that he's able to go out and seek
a trade. So, I mean, with the banged up secondary,
Trey White would make would make sense in Buffalo and Salary.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
Except in terms of his physical I mean, Trey White,
he's so banged up still. I mean, I'm not sure
if we would want him with the level of what
his capabilities are currently with the secondary we have.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I mean, but you're getting You're getting a plug and
play player though that's the other upside to it is
you've got a guy who knows the system for the
most part.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, I mean, you got The question comes on with
who's better here, Elam right now, because neither one of
them are going to beat out Well Stewell, Douglas or
or Bereford, Right, I mean, those guys are locked. You
got the best corner, you got the the number one
ranked PFF corner in the league playing for the Buffalo Bills.
And you got Raseuel Douglas, who's in the top twenty,

(50:54):
I mean, and you got and you got Johnson, who's there,
who's I think in terms of physics run stop. He's
one of the toughest guys in the secondary in the NFL.
So you know that secondary, for me, their biggest the
biggest question I think the Bills have is still at safety,
you know, and so some of the discussions about safety,

(51:14):
bringing guys into safety that that to me would make
a little sense. But you know, look, I think right
now the Bills have one main, big, glaring weakness and
it's the kicking game.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Oh right, the kicking game.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
It is.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
You don't really go out and trade for a kicker, no,
but you might be able to pick somebody up.

Speaker 6 (51:39):
But you, however, I heard somebody say once in the
last most recent past about you have these teams that
are out of it, and some of their best players
are their kickers because they sucked every place else. And
if you can get you could dump a trade a

(52:02):
kicker and pick up a draft pick that you could
then utilize to pick up more of the skill player.
Because you can grab a kicker, they're gonna be all
over the place off season. That is, you bring the
guys through college, you can you can try these guys
out and you can get them compete for training camp.
Well right now they don't need their kickers.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
We do.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yeah, but if you can pick up a kicker anywhere,
why would you trade for one?

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Well, you can't. They're in season. It's very difficult. In
season is very difficult because a lot of these guys
are locked up. But in the off seasons when you
have a lot of these guys moving and you have
a lot of guys from from college that are out
there trying to show their leg. So that's where again
for me, right now, I think their biggest challenge is
the kicking game, and and that you know, being in

(52:48):
Seattle last week, which by the way, guys, that stadium
is freaking awesome. I had the greatest time. Yeah, absolutely awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Will they have field seats in the New Buffalo State. Yeah,
Laura was in the she was there. She left, she
left a little while ago, but she was on the
field seats day I thought that was an interesting concept.
I didn't know was something that was happening at certain stadiums.

Speaker 6 (53:13):
That is that isn't added. I believe that they added
that post like configuration. But what the Bills have, which
is which is similar, is they have the field club.
So there's a section in the middle of the field
that goes I believe from like the thirty to the
thirty and there's a section right there behind the Bills

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bench that's a field club. So their seats provide access
underneath the stadium into a club access. But the front
of that club is like a glass walk, is a
glass fence where you can actually stand for the entirety
of the game behind the Bills bench or in that
whole area.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
YEA, are high up you see over the players or
are you looking at asses game?

Speaker 6 (53:55):
Well, I mean a guy your height, you'd be looking
at shoulders. A guy in my height, I'm towering over
these guys. I'll be able to see the entirety of the.

Speaker 8 (54:02):
Game sitting on my shoulders.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I think the uh boy, I thought they did that
in Mercedes Benz Stadium something similar. I think their concessions
are down. Have you been I haven't been so I
don't know. Jamison had played there and was telling me
that you could go in and it was all glass
in their concession area. That is that a club? I
don't know what that is.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Well, New England has something similar to that, but it's
in the end zone. Dallas has the suites in the
in the bunker, like a dugout suite.

Speaker 8 (54:33):
That could probably that.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
Mercedes has the same thing, uh, and Sofi has the
same thing, and and so a lot of that. What
it does is it's just trying to give you the experience,
trying to give you a different perspective and experience. It's
not necessarily a great view of the game, you know,
from Laura's seat, because we actually saw Laura in the
pre game on the for the on field for on

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field warm ups, and she's when the game is at
the other end of the field, you can't see anything.

Speaker 8 (55:01):
We heard. We heard you were closer to the fifty
than she was.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
Right there. She's like, where are you? I was met
the tent. Next thing I know, she's saying hello.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yeah, that's very funny. How was the trip to the security?

Speaker 6 (55:22):
No, I did not call it the security. Oh my gosh.
The math is great.

Speaker 7 (55:25):
Man.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
I mean, if anybody enjoys wine and food and being
in a beautiful, just landscape, Napa Valley has that.

Speaker 9 (55:34):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
It truly is one of the most beautiful places I've
ever seen. The mountains, the vines, the wine, the food,
absolutely stunning. It was great, absolutely love it.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
The Yeah, I'd love to get out there to see
Napa Valley. I mean it just sounds like a great trip.
And then up to Seattle. I did see a winemaker
on the field before the game with Tom Brady. I
think that that was Drew Bledsoe, winemaker himself. Now right,
he's out there. Uh. It's so funny because Bledsoe looks

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like he's aged, and yeah, we all do. And Brady
looks like he hasn't He's gotten younger in some way.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
He's amazing what Beatle Patella can do for.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Oh he did give the Uh. Well, I I can't
deny that, Greg. It certainly looks like when you look
back at old pictures, there is something that was going
on there for sure. Uh.

Speaker 8 (56:30):
Are you going down to Penn State this weekend?

Speaker 1 (56:33):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Oh, nch State, Ohio State big game?

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (56:39):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (56:39):
In fact, Will's professor that does sports marketing has asked
me to come into the class and kind of give
him the perspective as to what it's like to be
part of sports marketing in the in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
So are you going to do that this before this Friday?

Speaker 6 (56:57):
He Will's got class at one fifteen down there for
I'm going to go back to class back.

Speaker 8 (57:02):
Can we get video for the pod?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I don't think. I think there probably will be video somewhere.
But now, if that were me, I would have no
discussion with my son that I was showing up in
the class.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Well, the professor had, you Will and got my contract.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
The bat would be if he'd skipped, Yeah, oh my god, Yeah,
that would be hilarious.

Speaker 6 (57:31):
He Will told me the professor had asked me to
come in and I was like, sure. You know, I'm
coming in for the Ohio State game in the Washington game.
And he sent me a text back to the professors
like how about Ohio State. I'm like, yeah, I'm thinking, man,
I would think there'd be somebody more important than me
to be back on campus to talk on the Ohio
State game. And I'm like, yeah, sure, no problem. He

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goes because Levon Arrington is coming in for the Washington game,
and so it would be great if you could come
in for the Ohio State game. And I'm like, I
get Ohio State, he gets watching this pretty good?

Speaker 1 (58:01):
That's pretty good. That is pretty good.

Speaker 8 (58:04):
Will you mention?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Will you mention any of your interceptions at Alfred in
the speech?

Speaker 7 (58:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
I mean State's defense is great, But back in my day,
old number two here, I took care of business.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
I think I will definitely reference the fact of having
dreams and aspirations to get to the NFL. And I
thought it'd be on the field, But there's more than
one way. There's more than one path to be involved
in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Sometimes could be an elite level football player at any
level and still not make it to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Well, that's true too. I mean that maybe I always
say how good you have to be to suck at
the NFL? Right, just get that opportunity? Uh? Greg, is
that game I had a I mean, I think caught
some people by surprise as to how good the Bills
looked in that game.

Speaker 6 (58:57):
Yeah. I mean when you look, when you break the
game down, you look at the game again, there's three
plays that can have a huge impact on the outcome.
Of the game and the Bills. There are three plays
with the Bills that really impacted the game. You know,
the Amari Cooper interception that could have been a huge
impact because because they went down and then they got

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three right, that could have just completely changed the whole
part of that game there. The other one is when
when Josh fumbled it right, he's running, he comes from
behind fumbles of the fumbles forward, they get the first down.
You know. So there's a lot of different things that
went the Bill's way. Uh, you know, being in the stadium.

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The one thing that that I take away from being
in the stadium and with the Bills mop is that
when the Bills were on defense and it got so
loud that you saw Genal Smith like going to hand motions.
I thought that was one of the coolest, most surreal
experiences I've ever had, And it was just so loud.
It was so great.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
You know.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
The Amari Cooper trade certainly one that we're all so
happy it happened, right, But the person that seems to
have benefited the most on the team to me is
Keon Coleman. Yeah, I mean Keon, and boy, he's getting
better and better and better. That one armed catch with
a guy draped, I mean they were interlocked as he

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grabs that wrestles it away, and then his blocking on
plays and.

Speaker 6 (01:00:25):
Again this is where being a McDermott have a plan
and they have a philosophy. If you bring a guy
in like Cooper, who is known in the NFL is
one of the best, most precise route runners in the NFL,
who's also humble and hungry, and then you put him
into this raw, talented, kind of unorthodox I'm not sure

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how disappointed he is yet his route running for the
first part of the year was not particularly disciplined, and
then you can put him in practice with this guy
who was very disciplined and humble and extremely hard worker,
and you begin to see it's not just what Cooper's
doing on the field, it's what other guys, particularly a
guy like Colman. What a great mentor to have than
Amari Cooper, And that dividend is worth the eight hundred

(01:01:06):
thousand dollars of paying Amari Cooper, because I loved it
when Coleman caught the ball and then he tapped the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
He's dying. We thought he was gonna get a penalty.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Like taunting that certainly. Boy, I'll tell you what, if
they saw it, I think he would have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:24):
Ye, it was great. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
You know, right now the defense is playing well, Babbage
and McDermott or having, you know, some great schemes.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:35):
Really, the question becomes is that when you come up
against a team that has a strong run first mentality
like the Ravens did with Henry Uh, and then the
Texans utilize that with their run game and then the
short passing game, it kind of took the Bills, you know,
put them on their heels.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:54):
Those are the games and those are the teams when
you get to the playoffs. That's but those teams don't
do well, most of them anyways. And gearing up for
that that's what we gotta do. I love you know,
the Bills defensive line is gonna start to get healthy here.
Vaughn's going to be back, you know, I think Vaughan's
absence in those first two games was more important. The
two games that we lost was more more impactful than

(01:02:16):
people would like to think. And him being back here
now with two against Tua, you know he's coming too,
is back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah, what are they gonna do.

Speaker 6 (01:02:24):
You know, I feel comfortable because we know them as well.
I believe Josh is twelve and two against the Dolphins
in his career, He's got two losses against him. Three
of the twelve wins were by three points. Uh, the
remaining nine were for greater than six points, I believe.

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And so you know, this is a team that the
Bills seemed to have the number on, just like the
Patriots had our number for many years under Brady. I
just hope the Bills can maintain that intensity at home,
and they can. They can, they can wrap this one
up because then they got to go to Indy, and
Indy's been as a freaking hot mess right now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, Indy is a hot mess right now. Anthony Richard,
you were getting like taking himself out of the game
because he's exhausted, got benched. Well he got I know,
I hear you. I hear you. I feel like, in
a way, I wonder if it was. I mean, he's

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they're not protecting him. I feel like he needs to
develop a little bit more. He's the most inaccurate quarterback
in the NFL right now this season, and I think
I think you go back over a number of seasons
and he's the most inaccurate quarterback in the NFL at
the time. Josh had accuracy problems when he first came in.
I don't think this guy's washed up.

Speaker 8 (01:03:46):
I'm accurate, protected or not.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Have you ever in the history of watching football never
see the guy, but like, you know what I need,
I need to But I know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I feel like in a way it was almost like.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Self preservation other than other than Vonte Davis, but that
was at halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I feel like that's a sports psychologist that needs to
get in there and fix that. And to some degree
I really do, because I go, you're a pretty conditioned athlete.
You've played a lot of these games throughout your life.
There's no way that you're really unless you got hurt.
Something's happening and the next time the handoff, Yeah, I know,
I know, and you're putting a hundred nine. Guy.

Speaker 6 (01:04:23):
We've all played competitive sports. We all know people that
were extremely talented, and we all know people who weren't
as talented, that worked hard, that did a hell of
a lot better than the guys that were talented. You got, yes,
and that that is a personality quality of his. I
don't know if you can teach someone to be tough,
I think you're tough or you're not. I don't know

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too many people that were soft growing up that all
of a sudden then became tough. That may happen, but
he's almost a man now. He's a twenty two to
twenty three year old person. That's who he is as
a person.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
Yeah, things get tough.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
When things get tough, who want next to you in
your fox hole? I want somebody that's gonna step up
and be tough. He's gonna do what you need to
do to survive and to win, not somebody's gonna roll
over and say I need to take a nap.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
It'd be like one of your lawyers in the middle
of the closing is taking it, and the other the
other lawyer, and be like, hey, for me, what's that?

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
What's that ad?

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Where do they have the backup quarterback?

Speaker 6 (01:05:23):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Uh, they tap the guys starting to back into the
driveway with the trailer. Give me no chance. That's gonna
got it. That's gonna hey you know what in case
king and it's like that would be so funny if
that happened.

Speaker 6 (01:05:38):
Everything sound in the most simplistic form if I've got
a buddy and I want to do something and that
buddy's like.

Speaker 4 (01:05:45):
Yeah, I'll go do it.

Speaker 6 (01:05:47):
And then we get there and he's like, oh, dude,
I'm gonna go to the car and take a nap.
Am I ever gonna ask that buddy to come out
and do that with me?

Speaker 7 (01:05:54):
Again?

Speaker 8 (01:05:57):
To be fair, I was drinking pretty heavily that night.
I just needed ten minutes.

Speaker 6 (01:06:04):
But so so, now he's got a whole team of
people that are gonna question him. They're gonna question his motive,
they're gonna question his determination, they're gonna question everything about him.
He has lost all credibility on that team at this juncture.
You know, am I going to do the extra work?
Am I going to put in the extra effort? When

(01:06:24):
I know that the guy who's booklet?

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Is it?

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
No way?

Speaker 13 (01:06:27):
Man?

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
Get me out of there?

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Yeah? I wonder if he's actually torpedo his career a bit.
Maybe not torpedo, but maybe that's too harsh to turn.
But I feel like he certainly set himself back.

Speaker 8 (01:06:39):
Everybody gets a second chance, but you got to come out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
And that's what I'm saying, is like, you set yourself back.
I could see it like, I think the guy's got
talent and I think he could still be successful in
the NFL. But this was a terrible look and he
is not an accurate guy right now.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Yeah, I mean he's got to come back stronger, tougher
and harder and roof to that team. That he is
the first person in the locker room, the first person
in the video, is the first personal weight room, and
he's the last personal league. And I don't know what
his personality. I don't know if he was that before this.
Hearing what I'm hearing, I would guess he was not.

(01:07:16):
Josh Allen is the exact opposite.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Well, I mean, look I was saying before he came on,
and I thought Kevin made a good point, like you know,
the Bill's Mafia and the Allen era versus the Lean years.
I feel like we've got more Bandwagon fans even around
the media, or even around the media with people like
going out Yeah it's Boby, Josh, you know, it just
makes me laugh. But and this was supposed to be

(01:07:40):
a down year, a dip. I'm not gonna say it
was out that. I think they still would win the
AFC East get to the playoffs, but it was supposed
to be a dip, and I feel like now that
expectation has been raised, right, I feel like now we
feel like I don't know about you, Greg, but I
think they could win the next four games. And there
are some challenging ones in there, yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:08:01):
You know. And at this point of the season, it's
all about who's healthier, right, It's all about the matchup
of the week, because injuries, you know, the one of
the biggest impacts on a game is who's playing, Like,
what's the matchup, what's on the field, matchup, who are
the players? Because if Patrick Mahomes gets hurt, that team
is very different. That matchup, that game is very different,

(01:08:24):
if you know. And so those are the things at
this point in time, it's about it's about stacking wins.
I love the phrase stack wins. It's about staying healthy.
And the one good thing, the one thing about Josh
as he's done well I think this season so far,
is he has not put himself in the position where
he could then potentially get hurt. He exposed himself a

(01:08:46):
little bit on the scramble out in Seattle, you know,
and he got the ball jammed out and you know,
in his leg kind of bent the wrong way. Those things. Man,
they said me going crazy. But you know, for the
Bills right now, you know, it's one week at a time,
and it's staying healthy. You know, you got the lie.
You know, Milano is still out, Benford is playing well,

(01:09:10):
Williams is playing well, and so it's a matter of
getting these guys on defense healthy, staying healthy, and the
Bills could stack some wins here. You know, Look, we
got the Dolphins at home, it's a very winnable game.
We're going to be favored. We are favored. We then
have Indy on the road, which we will probably be
favored at that. We then come back and we've got

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Kansas City at home. We will probably be favored at
that with them being here. We then have a buye
and then we have San Francisco at home.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:09:42):
And so the way the schedule stacks through November going
into December, you know it could there the Bills could
really set themselves apart from everybody else, which would be
a huge thing because they don't have they don't they
don't have the tiebreaker against the Ravens and they don't
have the tiebreaker against the Texans. Right now, we you
haven't head to head against the Chiefs. We got it.

(01:10:02):
You win that game, you get the type breaker to
the Chiefs. That could be huge for them. We want
to get that home field advantage. You definitely want that
home field of advantage, which is the second and third
seed because the one he's the only one that gets
to buy the first round.

Speaker 8 (01:10:14):
Did they ever come out and say what Vaughan was
suspended for? Did I miss that?

Speaker 6 (01:10:20):
I believe there was an official statement on it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:23):
It was.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
Right, Yeah, we know what it was. It's yeah, it
was last year's last year's bye week.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 6 (01:10:35):
So you one of the one of the attractions of
Buffalo to bring in some of these free agencies that
you don't have these crazy addresses that these guys can
get in trouble with to go back home.

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
That's true. That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Too busy shovelm freaking snow in November. Decider to get
the hell of practice.

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
That's all right. One last question for you, Greg, the
penalties last week, I mean there were a lot. Was
the officiating crew just calling every ticki tacky thing and
not letting the guys play or is it a lack
of discipline on the Bills. I mean, despite the penalties,
despite the interception, which I don't believe was Josh's fault,

(01:11:14):
by the way, I think that, you know, they were
pretty resilient.

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
Yeah, you know, when you have weather like that and
your footing is off and you're trying to make certain
things happen, you're going to do that. And the call
that they're beholding calls that they're calling more now than ever.
It's not necessarily grabbing the jersey for the offensive linement.
It's where is your arm placement? So if the guy crosses,

(01:11:43):
Sorry about that, guys. The dogs are got closy when
a guy crosses their face, and then the offensive limits
aren't crosses a person's chest. They're going to call holding
that every time. Every time, they're going to call holding
on that. And that's what they're doing. And that call
has been probably the most promp coming in call on
our offensive line this year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Seems like it's it's just an impossible task. You can't
you know what I mean, you're getting hit, you know,
I just I don't know, I I but I understand
it and it comes down to discipline. But I feel
like these guys have to learn new rules all the time. Like, yeah,
everything's changing. It seems very difficult.

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
It's a pretty you know, look we're there, there's there's
all the different techniques that have on the defensive side
that try to get that space to try to get
to try to get that angle. H and in the
referees try not to make the call unless it's going
to impact the outcome of the play.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
But this here, uh huh no, she doesn't walk by
and she just smile.

Speaker 6 (01:12:45):
When it does impact the play, they're going to make
that call. And and what's happening is at that point
of contact, it's making an impact on the outcome of
the play. So you're making the calls. Do I think
it's oversaturated?

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
I do.

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
The calls that are driving me crazy. They called offensive
pass interference. It's like, come on, what is that?

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:13:08):
I mean you got all the holdings that Coleman did. Yeah,
and uh and that's when he said put it up
high and I'm just gonna go up and get staggering,
which was great.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Well, he that kid. You gotta love that guy. The
personality everything it's it's it's perfect and he seems to
be fitting in nicely and uh what I even blocking schemes.
I mean, the guy looks pretty good, pretty good and it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
And again the thing, the thing, you know, the pregame
stuff that we did, I enjoy because you get to
see what these guys doing. On a warm up. Cooper's
out there, he's running these precision foot speed routes, and
then Coleman's right behind him imitating them. And then and
then after they left, a bunch of black loud receivers
left once a different error of the field, and Coleman
went into the end zone and all he did was

(01:13:58):
throw that high pass just like he caught the touchdown
on and he high pointed everything and everything was up top.
And so when that play came, we pointed out he
probably caught ten or fifteen of those balls and warm
ups and then and what he said that Josh was
get it high. Get it high, because he gets a separation,
not on his pass route running at this point in
time his career, because of his footspeet, he truly gets

(01:14:20):
a separation because he can elevate so quickly and he's
got such a great extension. He can high point the
ball with these cornerbacks that are my height can't elevate
to that height, right.

Speaker 11 (01:14:29):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:14:30):
And that's what it's really exciting is being in that
red zone area and having him make such a difference there. Uh.
And you know you're right, Bill, there are so many
bandwagoners right now. But you know what, Bill's mafia, that's
a big enough band bandwagon to jump.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
On the bandwidth to jump on the bandwagon.

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
Even those Patriots fans that have nothing to cheer for,
you can come join us and join us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
They didn't beat the Jets. They beat the Jets that game.
Well I have to I'll ask you, is he is
that the worst acquisition in the NFL. I thought it
was Deshaun Watson prior to that, I'm starting to think.
I'm starting to think that it's Aaron Rodgers. And the
reason I say that is because they're trying He's so

(01:15:22):
in control of that team. They're trying to put everything
around him. With DeShawn, they they thought they had an
offense that worked. They were just missing this piece. And
in New York, I feel like they tried this and
now they're trying every other thing to make him happy.
And I go, boy, this may be the worst acquisition
in the NFL. Potentially, it certainly seems to be headed

(01:15:42):
that way.

Speaker 9 (01:15:43):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:15:43):
I mean, look, I think I think the Jets scenario
is a perfect example of how a bad owner makes
bad decisions. And that's why you stink. Because he was
in a position to firing Salah where if they were
to beat the Bills, they would have been in first place.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Yeah, he knew it.

Speaker 6 (01:16:09):
Yeah, and then he goes out and brings in Devonce Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
After they lose and didn't help him.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Another catastrophic error. You just you just swallow thirteen million
dollars on your cap and you're not getting anything, and
then now you've got dissension. Look, teams win when you're
a team. Individuals do not win team sports. Teams win
team sports. And the Jets right now have accumulated a
bunch of players as opposed to building a team. What

(01:16:38):
I think, Sean, what I believe McDermott and what I
think being have done is they've assembled a team and
Josh Allen is the consummate leader to be that team leader.
And that's what they're doing, and that's why the Bills
are having the success or having when they didn't think
they were going to have it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I agree I think that's that's great, great, great note
to go out on, Greg. That is very good. And Uh,
I assume you'll be up there cheering him on in person.

Speaker 6 (01:17:05):
Luke's got his last football game and he's coming off
an injury. So if Luke is going to be playing
on they're playing Fisher on Sunday, So if he's helping
enough to be playing, I'll be down there cheering my boy.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
All right, Well he's not going.

Speaker 6 (01:17:19):
To be playing, then I will be in Timar Stadium
losing my voice again.

Speaker 3 (01:17:24):
Well, if you need a guy to keep your seat
warm for you in Buffalo, I might need. I might
need to experience a game and the tailgate to jump
on that bandwagon.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Greg, Well we will one of these games where I'm
going cav don't wear any new England gear. We can
make that happens.

Speaker 8 (01:17:40):
Sneakers, because that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
All Right, Well, Greg, thank you for joining us, and
Uh from the man Cave, I love it. We got
to see him so the dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
Walking around, so you get a little peek into inside
the uh life of Greg Cutter.

Speaker 8 (01:17:59):
Get the dryer fix, Greg, the dryer fixed.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
That's that's the second.

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
We're doing a renovation right now, and so the house
is completely torn apart upstairs, so it's mayhem. But once
that's done, then we'll get back to having some uh
some man cave football, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
Man k football. Love it all right, Greg, Well, thank you.

Speaker 6 (01:18:29):
Hey guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Go Bills, Go Bills, See you later. There you go.
It's Greg Connors very good. I don't know, I feel
like there's a lot of people jumping on that bandwagon
coming over from New England.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
I disagree that Buffalo is a destination.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
It's it's not. Well, I think it's a destination if
you want to win a super Bowl. I know what
you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
But when if they won a super Bowl, Uh, you're
getting a shot. Would you rather betrayed? If you were
an NFL player looking to win your for Super Bowl
and they're they're presenting these two options to you.

Speaker 8 (01:19:03):
We can trade you to Kansas City or we can
trade you to Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Well, I think which one of you picking. But I
mean when you look at the city wise, Kansas City,
although they probably do have more gambling and stuff, but
they're and they're a little bit bigger, bigger city, bigger
night life. Yeah, I think you go there because of
the history of Super Bowls and modern like now. But
I'm not I don't know that I can buy your

(01:19:29):
argument fully, and I'll be honest with you, I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
I could be way wrong in this, but I would
say a majority of players, Yeah, winning a super Bowl
is up there, but it's not my top, or my second,
or my third qualifying factor for picking a team.

Speaker 8 (01:19:48):
He's gonna give me the most money.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
I do wonder if if you had an opportunity to
go to Vegas and play for the Raiders or come
and play with Alan. I wonder if you would take
Alan and avoid the dysfunction that seems to be prevalent
in Vegas at the moment.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
It depends am I going to get?

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Am I getting? Am I getting ten million more to
play in Vegas than I am a Buffalo? I might, yeah,
look at my future and say, hey, you know what
that ten millions worth?

Speaker 6 (01:20:16):
It?

Speaker 1 (01:20:16):
It could be. I mean, you're right again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:18):
I know some people the championship is a motivating factor,
but it's not, I think the biggest motivating factor anymore
in sports.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
It's a great debate, to be honest with you, It's
a great debate because You're right, the money will last.
But then at some point, depending on how much the
player's making, what is another ten million versus possibility of
endorsements and things revenue?

Speaker 6 (01:20:41):
That right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
What you're going to get a bigger endorsement option in
the New York or a Las Vegas said, you will?

Speaker 8 (01:20:46):
What are you endorsing in Buffalo?

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Well, Josh is and if you win a super Bowl,
there's potential. There's potential.

Speaker 8 (01:20:52):
Yeah, but there hasn't been that many. No campaign adds
for Buffalo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
No, they're only Josh right, Yeah, Josh, there's local stuff.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
I mean local stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Yeah, local stuff, and you won't get that any You
can get that anywhere, right, But the other I don't know.
It's a good debate, Kevin. I like the way your
head's working over there, even though I may not fully
buy to think about this.

Speaker 8 (01:21:17):
Meditate meditate that for.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Kevin or for Greg Connors, for Laura. We went inside
the mind of Laura earlier. I'm Bill Moran, have a
great weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:21:27):
Good in hotail.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Didn't know what to do.

Speaker 9 (01:21:31):
I turn a TV, won't rule a letter to you
stadt about the un estate.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
You see, they were looking borrow a candle lack with
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