November 16, 2025 • 38 mins
After the Buffalo Bills defeat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 44–32, Bill welcomes Dan back to the studio—victory feels good, but Dan still isn’t convinced this team is out of the woods. The guys break down the highs and lows of the game, from Josh Allen’s MVP-level flashes to the shaky defensive moments that keep Dan’s optimism in check. They also tackle the benching of Keon Coleman after missing a team meeting, exploring whether this moment could become a turning point for the Bills’ season.
Bill shares a hilarious ESPN feature on the true origin story of Bills fans jumping through folding tables at tailgates. The claims, the bragging rights, the date-stamped “proof”—Bill and Dan dig into why people crave originality, even when the act is as ridiculous as body-slamming a $40 Costco table. From “Who yelled ‘Free Bird!’ first?” to the inventor of “the wave,” the conversation turns into a fun, thoughtful discussion about identity, legacy, and why Bills Mafia remains one of sports’ most passionate, ritual-driven fan bases.
The episode then shifts gears to a hot-button workplace debate sparked by a recent Diary of a CEO interview with Cardone Ventures cofounder Natalie Dawson, who once fired employees for cheating on their partners. Bill and Dan explore the emerging cultural and legal gray zone of off-duty conduct, morality clauses, and whether personal infidelity predicts professional dishonesty. Does this type of employer scrutiny inspire better behavior—or just better hiding?
And just when you think the episode can’t get more surprising, Bill dives into the wild story of two New Jersey moms charged with racketeering for allegedly helping run a $2 million mafia-linked illegal online sports betting ring. In a world where legal sports betting is everywhere—from apps to celebrity endorsements—how does an illicit gambling operation still thrive? Bill wonders whether the masterminds, whoever they are, might actually be brilliant operators in the wrong industry.
Mixing football, psychology, ethics, and true-crime intrigue, this episode of Billified brings laughs, deep questions, and the kind of conversation only Billified can deliver.
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Bill shares a hilarious ESPN feature on the true origin story of Bills fans jumping through folding tables at tailgates. The claims, the bragging rights, the date-stamped “proof”—Bill and Dan dig into why people crave originality, even when the act is as ridiculous as body-slamming a $40 Costco table. From “Who yelled ‘Free Bird!’ first?” to the inventor of “the wave,” the conversation turns into a fun, thoughtful discussion about identity, legacy, and why Bills Mafia remains one of sports’ most passionate, ritual-driven fan bases.
The episode then shifts gears to a hot-button workplace debate sparked by a recent Diary of a CEO interview with Cardone Ventures cofounder Natalie Dawson, who once fired employees for cheating on their partners. Bill and Dan explore the emerging cultural and legal gray zone of off-duty conduct, morality clauses, and whether personal infidelity predicts professional dishonesty. Does this type of employer scrutiny inspire better behavior—or just better hiding?
And just when you think the episode can’t get more surprising, Bill dives into the wild story of two New Jersey moms charged with racketeering for allegedly helping run a $2 million mafia-linked illegal online sports betting ring. In a world where legal sports betting is everywhere—from apps to celebrity endorsements—how does an illicit gambling operation still thrive? Bill wonders whether the masterminds, whoever they are, might actually be brilliant operators in the wrong industry.
Mixing football, psychology, ethics, and true-crime intrigue, this episode of Billified brings laughs, deep questions, and the kind of conversation only Billified can deliver.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
(00:03):
mix in some vodka. Colored a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots Jeep Ram. It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pun on.
Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word. As the Bills beat the Tampaay Tampa Bay,
excuse me, Buccaneers forty four to thirty two. I'll take it.
I will take it, Daniel, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Everybody would take it. Everybody will take it. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean a little scary in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Scary for three quarters, scary over three and a half quarters.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, i'll tell you this. You say scary, I say entertaining.
That's entertaining. And I will also add this in there.
Baker Mayfield is a baller.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Oh he is.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
He is a baller.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I would argue that for three quarters he looked more
like Josh Allen than Josh Allen did, and Josh Allen
joshus Josh, for three quarters looked like every version of
Josh Allen you've seen. Yes, yes, yes, I agree, Rookie
Josh twenty nineteen, Josh twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Every version of Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yep uh no Keon Coleman in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Now cover one broke that last night.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Missed a meeting on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He's late.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
He was after her.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I said he was late for the meeting. So that's
to clear that up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, too much of a pondment, punishment a motivator for
this guy. Could he actually be injured? I would love
to know how you feel about this.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think it was a smart move.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I had no issues with it whatsoever, because this dude
has gotten more chances. Sean McDermott takes his time with
young players. What I mean by that is they don't
jump into the starting lineup. They've oftened sat. I mean
Ajan Panessa was one of the first guys who sat.
Bookie Masham sat, and he eventually never never really stuck.
Kyri Elam sat, he never stuck. Some guys get it,
(02:11):
some guys don't, and Kean Coleman is one of these
guys who didn't, has never quite gotten it, but yet
plays more than anybody aside from Allen in the offensive linement.
If all the skilled position players meaning guys who catch
the or run the ball. He plays more than anybody,
and finally they'd had enough. McDermott was even asked about
this last week. He goes, he knows when I'm upset
(02:33):
with him, he knows when I expect more out of him.
And then so, okay, you've already had that warning shot
you've been a disappointment.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, you guys have talked about when Peter's on and
we'll have him back on on when we tape on Wednesday.
You think he's dogging it when he's not involved in
the play, if he knows he's the fourth like she's
not the top option or the top three options obviously,
could this be part of that?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they've given him every chance
of finally, like you have to send a message if
the guy is going to be called out in media
and that is late.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
For another meeting.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was ready to play. They were gonna play him,
they were gonna start him like normal, and then he decided, no, O, can't.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We got to send it?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do we know, like, is this a pattern with him?
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Sounds like it, And if it is, then.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What I'm thinking something that you go, boy, this seems
like a severe punishment for a guy. I don't think
so right away, and I thought, yeah, I gotta think
there's more to it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
This is a dude who against New England sat out
the first quarter or at the first drive.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Why was he?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Why wasn't he out there? Because he missed the team meeting.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's taken to what week eleven?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
To sit him is showing that Sean McDermott must have
the patience.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Of a monument.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, look, finally he's like enough. The big knock on
the Bills right now is that their receiving corps is depleted. Yeah,
but today, I mean, did you see who was out
there today? Yeah? And and you know it was the
best receiver.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, it wasn't at all.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was Tyrrell Shaver.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I did mean to say Shaver. H. But here's the thing,
why not stick with that receiving corps? Why not just
that Thursday night? Yeah? If I not go with those guys, I.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Would stick with this lineup. Hey, hey, can you get
the message yet? I want to make sure you got
the message?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, Because they're already working.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
On the Houston game as soon as gets wrapped up.
They're working out Houston like there's nobody going to bed.
They're in practice tomorrow installing. The coaches are not going
to leave the stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
These guys have to do adderall, don't you think, Dan,
I mean, they do a lot of stuff, don't you
think in some way?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, there's a I don't want to get into that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
God, go down it, go down that path, because I
see do you remember when Sean Payton was suspended for
a year for the bounty gates? Do you remember? And
I also know that Sean Payton has a propensity for
young girls. He was Oh yeah, I got some inside
scoop on Oh really, I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Last I don't like Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, I know a lot of people. He's not a
good he's smarmy, he's smart.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
He's a douchebag. And we could call it what it is,
he's a douchebag.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I say smarty, you say douchebag. Probably synonymous, I
would say, are synonyms. He was in a bar with
two nineteen year old girls, and he's married, by the way, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
And I have a friend who was part of that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So no, hang on a second, No, he was aware of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The situation, was aware of that. He was in the neighborhood.
He was particulars He's not going to be in the
follow me. God, where was I before this?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Were you at thirstyes tonight or our friend Dave?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Alright, well, okay, sou that bounty gate situation where Greg
Williams got suspended for your doesn't even appear. Former head
coach of the Buffalo Bill If I said the name
James o'keefeld, you know who I'm talking about Project verretas.
He was the founder of Project Veritas now O'Keefe Media
Group or o MG. He said at one point that
that really wasn't a bounty Gate suspension. It was actually
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something else. They had to so they had evidence of
bout it. So everybody involved got suspended, but it wasn't
for what they said it was. Yes, he did, but
it was something else. I'm not going to go too
far down the rabbit. How do you know because he
tweeted it out?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Did you say what? Did he say what it was?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He said?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It may have been a prescription pill.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh, that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So the NFL you can't have That's total sense.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It makes total sense. But but look at this, what
is the painkillers? Something like, what is the average age
of a head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Average forty something, mid forties.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, mid forties. You start like you don't have that
same energy, you don't have that same passion. I'm not
saying that the adrenaline doesn't. I'm not saying these guys
aren't slightly built different or wired differently, but it does
start to deplete. There has to be some kind of
stimulant going on. Oh dude, that allows them. And I'm
(06:56):
not saying it's illegal cocaine, but it may be one
of my favorite things in life these days.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
All Oh, yeah, could be. I'm sure there is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Let me say it, Adaall.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I talk to you doctor about Anama.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, it's good. But you feel good about the wind,
You feel good going into this game coming up? Theirs
don't why Jesus Christ always know what are the Jesus
into this for? Jesus should be smacking you, going, Dan,
wake up? I got you.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Do you realize what the play of the game was?
There was a series of three plays.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I thought Josh at moments was spectacular.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Player of the game was a third and two cam
Lewis comes up and breaks up a first down it
would be first down, and the Bucks are on their
side of the field, and they decide to punt. Yes,
that's called a surrender punt. Yes, instead of like there's
like seven minutes, like are you serious? Because you're down
right now. The Bills go back down the.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Field and score.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But they score because because Shakira on a third down,
the Bills are only up four at this or five
at this point, right, so a field goal puts you
up eight, but you still have to make the field
goal or score touchdown. It's third down, and they throw
that stupid pass that we made fun of with Peter
last week, the behind the line of scrimmage throwing security
gets nailed. But what happens Parrish, who had a heck
(08:13):
of the game today, pulls him down by his ear
hole and they throw the fifteen yard flag and they
should they yeah, but that but the point was they
got bailed out by the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay, that's how they won.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The game, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Actually, do you realize how about some other things that
were really really good? Oh like what Tucker?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Tucker scored two touchdowns, had five point six yards per carry, set.
White had five point one yards per cauri in Baker
Mayfield at seven point eight yards for Caury. He's not
known to run the ball. He's a quarterback. He's a
throwd quarterback. He's not Josh Allen. They can't stop Joey
Bostall looked terrible stop of the run today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
He had an oblaque injury and a knee injury.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Baker, Yeah, and he still managed to, uh look like Josh.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Allen at times.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Look, they won, they won.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm happy that they won.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Their seven and three.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They almost gave it right back to them.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well almost, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It didn't happen yet for.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
A couple of fumbles that should have never have happened.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Bills turned the ball over today more than.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The entire season, the entire season, or maybe the entire.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Josh miss throws. I mean the two point conversion again,
but I'm all through the ball in the stands. He's
wide open.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm going, okay, so trying to talk.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
To this water and it ends open at the Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But there's one that one drive they had. I thought
the wind participated in a couple of this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
When you draft the Josh thrown.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, but it's still I'm watching ESPN and they did
a fantastic, fantastic piece on the origin story of jumping
through tables. It is so good. It's a great piece.
It's so funny, and it's not just the mafia, Like,
how did this start? Who claimed? Yeah, well not the Bills, Yes,
(09:52):
the Bill's mafia, but who claims it? And it was
funny to see these these guys. O, you mean it
wasn't pro rustling. Well some say, some say, some say,
but it humbly saying I'm not saying I was the first.
If I were, it was so fantastic and I go
(10:13):
the human ego, the human Oh no, but it's fantastic.
Come on, you gotta admit this is some funny shit.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's oh, it's hilarious. That's why I'm rolling my eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We are wired for originality, that's what humans are wired for.
We want originality, even when it's uh, I would say
objectively dumb, right fair to say objectively dumb? Yeah, I
don't know. Being the first kind of gives you a status.
And you know, I influenced the whole movement. And there
was one guy saying it was twenty fifteen and they
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I think he's from Rochester and they have the people
from I assume they're Buffalo and they said, yeah. This
guy said he was going to jump through the table,
and then he said can we jump through your table?
And the guy said, I'll let you do it if
you climb on the top of the truck, and he goes,
I didn't think he would, and he did. It was
a kid from Rochester that was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
To hang our hats on, so.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Garbage plates had jumped to the table.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Somebody else claim we used to have Kodak. I just
saw the Simpsons thing that some upstate New York.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Let's go to a place that was never good to
begind with state New York. I do good, Homer, don't I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I just thought, I go this is interesting. And then
somebody else goes, yeah, twenty twelve, they started it and
they have video, and he goes, hey, look if anybody
else can claim it, I mean, I'm willing to do it,
but I'm the claiming I'm started started. It shows how
a person sees themselves, right, And I mean, if I
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say I started it, that's a pretty bold thing.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Look at me.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I want to know who was the first person who
yelled freebird at the concert. I'm dying to know who's
the guy who started that shit that's been going on
for almost five decades.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Gosh, here night we did a comedy show and my
buddy Steve and I performed and people started yelling freebird.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
We played free bird and people left.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No, it's it's just how about here were the audience
and they just decided to leave.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How about for the person who started the wave? Where's
that guy? I haven't seen him? Come up? I haven't
seen that.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm assuming a guy.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They're British or something. They're probably like overseas.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But do we have the most identity driven fan base
with the Bill's Mafia? Oh? Yeah, because they have nothing
else to hang on to. Well, like extreme rituals like
jumping through a table? What says I belong more?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
What's more extreme?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Jumping through a table or getting sprayed with ketchup and mustar?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Amen? And look, we see this stuff. It becomes kind
of like viral in the moment it sounds ridiculous. I
don't even know how you clean yourself up. You got
to go home smell them like you can't get that
smell off you unless you shower and use some soap.
I don't know what they're doing, but I think to myself,
the fans of Buffalo have endured decades of suffering. Yeah fair,
(13:16):
oh yeah, and so smashing a table to me is
kind of that, I'll say, symbolic release, right, that joy
that they get. That's like all the frustration comes out, camaraderie, chaos,
all that stuff blended together. It's all right there. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, he not a fan, No, I'm in the minority.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Though.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
If you people enjoy that, you go ahead.
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(17:03):
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(18:48):
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(19:11):
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(19:46):
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NAILED it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I know but still mir animo for. The wind she
went on LinkedIn, This Woman, natalie dawson and she said
leaders hold the line on integrity and that if someone
is dishonest in one part, of life it won't magically stop.
At work and there is something about that that sort
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of makes my sphincter pucker a, little tighter because even
Our Friend greg connors has said he believes golf is
a great game to see sort of the integrity. Of somebody, oh.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah there's a MUG that i got from my uncle
one YEAR when i.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Was sixteen, it says you want to find out what a,
guy is what someone, is like play around a golf. With,
them okay we want to find out the character. A
man play one round of golf with him and you
will learn.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So much So she, I'm sorry i'm still. Eating Going
NATALIE dawson ceo says that she kind of framed the
firings as protecting culture and not. PUNISHING people i. Don't
know that's A, little well that's.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Our company she can do what.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
You want, well exactly so someone's got. DIFFERENT philosophies, i
mean you Go. To netflix right the moment you walk in,
the door they're trying to fire You.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
At, netflix yes the reason is because they.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Want to get the most out. Of you they want
you to perform under pressure to the point where you'll
drive yourself out. Of it wants to KNOW what, i
mean because people want The word netflix on. Their, resume
hey LOOK what i was able.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
To do.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But is it a bigger cultural shift in a way
as we say this for companies acting as the more
a police arbiters of? Some kind you KNOW what? I
MEAN and i. Don't know there's a line between personal
ethics and, professional behavior and it sort of begs the
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question where does the company's authority begin? An, END yeah i.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
UNDERSTAND that, i mean let's put it. This way if
let's let's apply this to several walks. Of life let's
apply it to, Law enforcement let's apply it, to politics
let's apply it. To church let's apply this to. Pro
sports we'll have, that, one right we wouldn't have anybody
left well accepting the accepted church because you cannot have
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that in.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Your church that that has, to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go, hang on that has.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
To go but the OTHER aspects i.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
DON'T think, i mean but here's something that's interesting that you.
Point out all those people, are leaders and what's attractive.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Strong, powerful people especially strong.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Powerful. Men, Yeah Right and i've been held up in
society for Some LONG and i had a CHURCH that
i went to that the pastor was caught banging his
secretary who people used to call. Ant pudgy that's what,
our kids her nieces and nephews called her on The Upstate.
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New YORK.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Why i went to a church? Growing up not now.
Me too growing up they had the sat. Somewhere SITUATION.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So, I mean, i go what? About gambling what? About
drinking what? About? Hookups? Divorce politics here's The thing i'm. Not,
sure look it is a, private COMPANY and i tried
to do a little Research on some courts have, upheld
firings others have ruled. Them unlawful IN, THE us i
think you're an at. Will, Employment yeah and so it
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gives companies pretty much a, wide LATITUDE and i think
it sort of depends on. The judge they can fire
people for personal conduct unless protected by, discrimination law which
is very specific in its wording. And protections so there's
lawful off duty conduct and there's statues. On that can
(24:08):
you guess? The states there are three states that have
lawful off duty conduct statutes In, Place, utah, no okay
but There is west and it does It? Borders utah they,
share border so a little.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Further, East, okay colorado you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
That's surprising.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh huh colorado would, have. That yeap SO would i
think more States?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Like, colorado no.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You may you may just think of some.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Liberal, States, okay california?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Doesn't it you? Got?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
It okay.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Uh huh and then there's one, More Baby.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
New york you got it Up State.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
New, york now there have been lost is involving people
fired for, relationship choices but all the results vary. By
state they. Really DO so i. DON'T know i have
known people have been fired for consensual relationships at, the
workplace but there are sometimes stated in the handbook or
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it's sort of an.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Unwritten rule you don't what do? They say you don't
dip your pen in? The company.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
OH okay i was, gonna say shit where, You're SLEEP
but i got it. Or eat.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We're.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
In, business.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Uh people have been fired for in. Moral behavior it's
not that's.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
NOT uncommon i think if morality is, your culture if it's,
like church then you need to.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Go right but.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's church now when we're talking about, SOCIETY business I
think i think there's a little bit of overreach there in,
some cases unless it's two people within. The, workplace okay
once it BECOMES an, hr issue all that's.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Are off.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right so this woman who runs This Company, cardon
ventures or SHE'S the ceo.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Of, IT yeah i don't.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Say running she believes that personal behavior equals. Personal behavior
that's basically what. She's saying if you do, this here.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You call her outside. The, lines there you'll call her.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Outside right but psychology sort of, complicates that it, really
does because occasionally people. ARE dishonest i mean, they're kind but. Occasionally,
dishonest well let's put.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
THIS way i mean Our friend tom youu lay once
said behind every, great fortune he's a.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Great.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Crime, Yes yes so SHE'S the ceo of. This company
i'm sure she worked her you know what off to.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Get. There, Huh okay but.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Sometimes it's better to Ask for we've all been told
it's better to ask forgiveness than ask. For, permission yes
so to BE the ceo is of. Political gain just.
Like politics there's always a corner, cut here something chopped,
off there there's, trade.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Offs there's deals and all this.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Other stuff so it's kind. Of taking you better have
your hands completely clean if you're gonna BE. The ceo
it's gonna cast judgment on somebody in your underneath. Your
purview you're just doing.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Something on their.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Own, Time again i'm not condoning this on a, personal
level but at a, business level you better.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Be clean so and by, the way clean. In, everything
sure because here's, the question.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Cleaner Than A supreme, court, justice which by, the way like, you, know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah but it raises this question. To me is it
dangerous to reduce a person's, entire character their, entire character
to one? Moral? DECISION yes i think it, is dangerous.
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Moms Dam H kim Zito And Rosanna Mango El. Magno
magno we're charged with racketeering after allegedly taking part in
a two million dollar mafia linked illegal online sports betting
ring run by their sons and Financed By Joseph Little,
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joe burna a purported soldier In the lucasy. Crime FAMILY
and i believe L ucch e s E is, Lukesy yes, lucas,
yes yes well they Were.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
IMPLICATING lucasy i think we're one of the family that
were IMPLICATING the. Fbi investigation yes WITH, the nba you.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Got It kim zito flaunted glamorous lifestyle on, social media
Complete with, gucci bags, home flips. Inspirational quotes magno maintain
a quieter online presence working in, retirement services but prosecutors
say that from twenty twenty two to twenty, twenty four,
two years both women helped funnel or conceal illegal gambling
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cash from a national online sportsbook operation Coordinated By. Little
Joe little joe and several family members including Her Sons
frank Zito and Joseph And, anthony magno and, a nephew
all in their. Early twenties the ring allegedly used a
network of bookmakers across the country to take, illegal bets enrich,
(30:49):
the defendants and keep the. Operation running fourteen people across
multiple states are now, facing charges and this bust Follows
another luczy gambling crackdown earlier. This year tharti said that
was what you were referring. To say zeno accepted illegal
cash in late twenty, twenty Three while magno attempted to
hide gambling ledgers in twenty twenty five during a. Police
(31:11):
stop their attorneys have. Not, commented obviously sports betting as,
IT is i go as the new. Family business when
some suburban moms become the side.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Hustle, For, this yeah it's.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right THERE and i don't know why you WOULDN'T do i.
Don't know if it's, more exciting if it's more of a,
cash deal you can hide. It better but it's, still
happening even though we have legalized Gambling In new jersey
And In. New york jersey had, It First new, york
followed because then why people going across, the, border.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Right because that's what.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
People. Do yes, of course of course.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Everyone's in on even the, sports organizations, sports leagues they're
only in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
On it but it's so weird that the modern mafia
is blending so well into normal suburban.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Making a cutback.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Because it used to be smoky back rooms, with bookies
you Know what, I'm saying like that you saw this money. Counting,
machines yeah and now we got, highly educated social media
savvy people that are, suburban women and it's kind of
blurring the lines between illegal gambling AND mainstream i, don't.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
KNOW wow, i mean it's it's almost like you have
the opportunity to do this people have the opportunity to
do this with, their phone why do they feel like
they need to go and do? THIS privately i, guessn't
know because it's older people who just don't understand how to.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Use, technology maybe but there's also that well, could BE
but i. Don't know if you've got, higher stakes better,
QUICKER payout i don't know what. IT is i really
don't ways to not be taxed on the money that.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You, make oh that's probably what.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
IT means i, DON'T know i. Really don't. I'm trying
i'm making things UP as. I, top like if.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You Win, on FanDuel you're getting you're getting a ten ninety.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Nine, form yeah well it depends on, How.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Much, rightyeah yeah we have to win over like five
hundred dollars or something, like that and then like, you
know it's get.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Report it you gotta.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like YES but i mean it's less Like the sopranos
and more like, you know The The real Housewives Of.
Monroe county that's the.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Funniest part the Wives.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Are yes if you remember A, good fella it was
A good fellow is a casino where those good fellas
WHERE the fbi had to click off after so, Many
minutes so we put our wives on, the phone and
after ten minutes then we would jump on and then
talk and then hand the phone back to.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Our wives something maybe, like that who's gonna suspect?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The? Wives right but then when You're buying gucci and
all this, other stuff it's like that other seat And
good fellas where, they go.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well the cars in my?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Mother's NAME would i tell you don't big purchases at
The loose.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Luffonza heist danny remembers all this stuff because he secretly
wanted to be part Of The silver creek. Crime family
but let me ask, you this why is sports betting
really when you look, at stocks, hedge funds, day traders
it's all, a gamble. It is it's all. A GAMBLE and, i,
(33:59):
GO so i, don't know you got one from a
paraphild kitchen and one you KNOW what? I, MEAN.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yes i think the difference is with the stock market
is that there's been proven methods where if you invest
your money certain ways, over time it'll all.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like, Grow SURE but, i mean are we criminalizing people
that are doing what hedge funds have done? All along
just to?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Do it because if they're not but everything like securities
is highly, highly Regulated and i'm sure that there's backdoor
dealings and insider trading. And whatnot it's the appearance of being.
Highly regulated you can't you can't regulate, you know well, Card,
games no.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You can't and here's, the thing like we said this
just a few, Minutes ago BUT as i think, about
it and as we're, talking here why wouldn't you just
use the legal? Betting services why? Risk this why risk?
All this and there is a going back to even.
An affair there's something about doing something on the sneak
that is. Really exciting there's exclusivity, to it there's secrecy.
(34:58):
To it, There, there yeah this's and you can. Launder
it well you got this insider. Status, Though well i'm,
just saying like why would people? Do that and and.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Because it makes me somebody makes me, feel.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Important right it. Really does you know who that is?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Over, there yeah, that's Uh that's.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Joey's mom joey's mom warns that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Whole, thing well it's the thrill of beating the system
and really getting the cash pay broke down.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Like cash buttels read together, like yeah you just say The,
mob okay you know WHAT the causat means what it
means if you say It. In english this thing, of,
ours well, our thing so make you get down like
it's a. Fancy day it's. Like cash really you ever
watch a, Mob.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Movie but you have, to, ask like making betting legalized
to a, certain degree is it removing the stigma that
you know it was always this sort of.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well yeah especially when you got like pro athletes saying bet,
DRAFT gigs i mean draftkigs is now sponsoring Everything fandel
it's it's almost like the here's the thing. ABOUT DraftKings
i think that this is gonna turn into if the
federal government really gets involved, in this because everything's, smoking.
Mirror right they don't want us to look at what's
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really going on and what we really. Want done so
we're gonna focus on the mob a gambling and make
it look like we're doing. Something right so it's gonna
be like the dot. Com boom everyone got a head
to get into website before and then all of, a
sudden what happened the dot com?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Bubble burst.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
IT did i think there's only gonna be three or
four companies that are gonna survive. The gambling and by,
the way and you're gonna see if the government really leans,
on them you're gonna see less. Player props where's really?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Were, all wow the player prop is really, the, Problem
right that's that's where, The problem that's where the. Problems,
are yeah it's interesting to ME because I as, i
go you are you forcing criminals to be a little
more creative because we've removed the stigma and anybody can you?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Know?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Better dollar and it's. Just FUN and i don't really
know because there is the, thing like it's why is this?
Still surviving and the ONLY thing i can think of
is cash payouts a little. More exciting there is something
about it that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You're kind of a. Big deal you could hide. This
money it's. A lot it could be a lot. Of
money you don't have to. Claim, anything, nobody.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
No no no one, knows, anything right no. One knows,
you know all of, a sudden you Come. Home christmas
you know you're able to put that bow on the
car and put it in the driveway for your for.
Your wife you know you can plow jobs for. A year. You're,
fantastic hey? Thank you illegal, Gambling, WHATEVER.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah i know how to. MOVE it i wouldn't know
what to, do, WELL no i would know how to.
Hide that but you're.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Talking about these women who had what do, They say
gucci bags and. And other of course they had to.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Flaunt it you know when you come out of, your,
Baseline folks well.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You got gucci bags and. Granite, countertops oh by, The
way DraftKings knockoff in.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
The, bay yes and you have a w two of
thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Is somewhere, Driving around so it's their son somewhere Driving Around.
New jersey is a Bumper sticker magna in the back
of a minivan that says proud parent of. A felon
we'll find fault with. These Wins so i'm just telling winners, a, Win,
Buddy yes i'll Take the winner's a Win For dan
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Looks nice he's just.
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Speaker 2 (00:29):
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pun on.
Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word. As the Bills beat the Tampaay Tampa Bay,
excuse me, Buccaneers forty four to thirty two. I'll take it.
I will take it, Daniel, Oh.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Everybody would take it. Everybody will take it. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I mean a little scary in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Scary for three quarters, scary over three and a half quarters.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, i'll tell you this. You say scary, I say entertaining.
That's entertaining. And I will also add this in there.
Baker Mayfield is a baller.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Oh he is.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
He is a baller.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I would argue that for three quarters he looked more
like Josh Allen than Josh Allen did, and Josh Allen
joshus Josh, for three quarters looked like every version of
Josh Allen you've seen. Yes, yes, yes, I agree, Rookie
Josh twenty nineteen, Josh twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Every version of Josh Allen.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yep uh no Keon Coleman in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Now cover one broke that last night.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Missed a meeting on Friday.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
He's late.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
He was after her.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I said he was late for the meeting. So that's
to clear that up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, too much of a pondment, punishment a motivator for
this guy. Could he actually be injured? I would love
to know how you feel about this.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I think it was a smart move.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
I had no issues with it whatsoever, because this dude
has gotten more chances. Sean McDermott takes his time with
young players. What I mean by that is they don't
jump into the starting lineup. They've oftened sat. I mean
Ajan Panessa was one of the first guys who sat.
Bookie Masham sat, and he eventually never never really stuck.
Kyri Elam sat, he never stuck. Some guys get it,
(02:11):
some guys don't, and Kean Coleman is one of these
guys who didn't, has never quite gotten it, but yet
plays more than anybody aside from Allen in the offensive linement.
If all the skilled position players meaning guys who catch
the or run the ball. He plays more than anybody,
and finally they'd had enough. McDermott was even asked about
this last week. He goes, he knows when I'm upset
(02:33):
with him, he knows when I expect more out of him.
And then so, okay, you've already had that warning shot
you've been a disappointment.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, you guys have talked about when Peter's on and
we'll have him back on on when we tape on Wednesday.
You think he's dogging it when he's not involved in
the play, if he knows he's the fourth like she's
not the top option or the top three options obviously,
could this be part of that?
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they've given him every chance
of finally, like you have to send a message if
the guy is going to be called out in media
and that is late.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
For another meeting.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was ready to play. They were gonna play him,
they were gonna start him like normal, and then he decided, no, O, can't.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
We got to send it?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Do we know, like, is this a pattern with him?
I haven't.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Sounds like it, And if it is, then.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
What I'm thinking something that you go, boy, this seems
like a severe punishment for a guy. I don't think
so right away, and I thought, yeah, I gotta think
there's more to it.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
This is a dude who against New England sat out
the first quarter or at the first drive.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Why was he?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Why wasn't he out there? Because he missed the team meeting.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's taken to what week eleven?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
To sit him is showing that Sean McDermott must have
the patience.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Of a monument.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well, look, finally he's like enough. The big knock on
the Bills right now is that their receiving corps is depleted. Yeah,
but today, I mean, did you see who was out
there today? Yeah? And and you know it was the
best receiver.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
No, it wasn't at all.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
It was Tyrrell Shaver.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I did mean to say Shaver. H. But here's the thing,
why not stick with that receiving corps? Why not just
that Thursday night? Yeah? If I not go with those guys, I.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Would stick with this lineup. Hey, hey, can you get
the message yet? I want to make sure you got
the message?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yes, Because they're already working.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
On the Houston game as soon as gets wrapped up.
They're working out Houston like there's nobody going to bed.
They're in practice tomorrow installing. The coaches are not going
to leave the stadium.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
These guys have to do adderall, don't you think, Dan,
I mean, they do a lot of stuff, don't you
think in some way?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Well, there's a I don't want to get into that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
God, go down it, go down that path, because I
see do you remember when Sean Payton was suspended for
a year for the bounty gates? Do you remember? And
I also know that Sean Payton has a propensity for
young girls. He was Oh yeah, I got some inside
scoop on Oh really, I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Last I don't like Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, I know a lot of people. He's not a
good he's smarmy, he's smart.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
He's a douchebag. And we could call it what it is,
he's a douchebag.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, I say smarty, you say douchebag. Probably synonymous, I
would say, are synonyms. He was in a bar with
two nineteen year old girls, and he's married, by the way, Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
And I have a friend who was part of that.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So no, hang on a second, No, he was aware of.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The situation, was aware of that. He was in the neighborhood.
He was particulars He's not going to be in the
follow me. God, where was I before this?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Were you at thirstyes tonight or our friend Dave?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Alright, well, okay, sou that bounty gate situation where Greg
Williams got suspended for your doesn't even appear. Former head
coach of the Buffalo Bill If I said the name
James o'keefeld, you know who I'm talking about Project verretas.
He was the founder of Project Veritas now O'Keefe Media
Group or o MG. He said at one point that
that really wasn't a bounty Gate suspension. It was actually
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something else. They had to so they had evidence of
bout it. So everybody involved got suspended, but it wasn't
for what they said it was. Yes, he did, but
it was something else. I'm not going to go too
far down the rabbit. How do you know because he
tweeted it out?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Did you say what? Did he say what it was?
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:17):
What was it?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He said?
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It may have been a prescription pill.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh, that makes total sense.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So the NFL you can't have That's total sense.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
It makes total sense. But but look at this, what
is the painkillers? Something like, what is the average age
of a head coach in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Average forty something, mid forties.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, mid forties. You start like you don't have that
same energy, you don't have that same passion. I'm not
saying that the adrenaline doesn't. I'm not saying these guys
aren't slightly built different or wired differently, but it does
start to deplete. There has to be some kind of
stimulant going on. Oh dude, that allows them. And I'm
(06:56):
not saying it's illegal cocaine, but it may be one
of my favorite things in life these days.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
All Oh, yeah, could be. I'm sure there is.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Let me say it, Adaall.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
I talk to you doctor about Anama.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, it's good. But you feel good about the wind,
You feel good going into this game coming up? Theirs
don't why Jesus Christ always know what are the Jesus
into this for? Jesus should be smacking you, going, Dan,
wake up? I got you.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Do you realize what the play of the game was?
There was a series of three plays.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I thought Josh at moments was spectacular.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Player of the game was a third and two cam
Lewis comes up and breaks up a first down it
would be first down, and the Bucks are on their
side of the field, and they decide to punt. Yes,
that's called a surrender punt. Yes, instead of like there's
like seven minutes, like are you serious? Because you're down
right now. The Bills go back down the.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Field and score.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
But they score because because Shakira on a third down,
the Bills are only up four at this or five
at this point, right, so a field goal puts you
up eight, but you still have to make the field
goal or score touchdown. It's third down, and they throw
that stupid pass that we made fun of with Peter
last week, the behind the line of scrimmage throwing security
gets nailed. But what happens Parrish, who had a heck
(08:13):
of the game today, pulls him down by his ear
hole and they throw the fifteen yard flag and they
should they yeah, but that but the point was they
got bailed out by the Bucks.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay, that's how they won.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
The game, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Actually, do you realize how about some other things that
were really really good? Oh like what Tucker?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Tucker scored two touchdowns, had five point six yards per carry, set.
White had five point one yards per cauri in Baker
Mayfield at seven point eight yards for Caury. He's not
known to run the ball. He's a quarterback. He's a
throwd quarterback. He's not Josh Allen. They can't stop Joey
Bostall looked terrible stop of the run today.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
He had an oblaque injury and a knee injury.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Baker, Yeah, and he still managed to, uh look like Josh.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Allen at times.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Look, they won, they won.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, I'm happy that they won.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Their seven and three.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
They almost gave it right back to them.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well almost, but it didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
It didn't happen yet for.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
A couple of fumbles that should have never have happened.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Bills turned the ball over today more than.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
The entire season, the entire season, or maybe the entire.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Josh miss throws. I mean the two point conversion again,
but I'm all through the ball in the stands. He's
wide open.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I'm going, okay, so trying to talk.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
To this water and it ends open at the Chinese restaurant.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
But there's one that one drive they had. I thought
the wind participated in a couple of this.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
When you draft the Josh thrown.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, but it's still I'm watching ESPN and they did
a fantastic, fantastic piece on the origin story of jumping
through tables. It is so good. It's a great piece.
It's so funny, and it's not just the mafia, Like,
how did this start? Who claimed? Yeah, well not the Bills, Yes,
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the Bill's mafia, but who claims it? And it was
funny to see these these guys. O, you mean it
wasn't pro rustling. Well some say, some say, some say,
but it humbly saying I'm not saying I was the first.
If I were, it was so fantastic and I go
(10:13):
the human ego, the human Oh no, but it's fantastic.
Come on, you gotta admit this is some funny shit.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
It's oh, it's hilarious. That's why I'm rolling my eyes.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
We are wired for originality, that's what humans are wired for.
We want originality, even when it's uh, I would say
objectively dumb, right fair to say objectively dumb? Yeah, I
don't know. Being the first kind of gives you a status.
And you know, I influenced the whole movement. And there
was one guy saying it was twenty fifteen and they
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I think he's from Rochester and they have the people
from I assume they're Buffalo and they said, yeah. This
guy said he was going to jump through the table,
and then he said can we jump through your table?
And the guy said, I'll let you do it if
you climb on the top of the truck, and he goes,
I didn't think he would, and he did. It was
a kid from Rochester that was twenty fifteen.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
To hang our hats on, so.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Garbage plates had jumped to the table.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Somebody else claim we used to have Kodak. I just
saw the Simpsons thing that some upstate New York.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Let's go to a place that was never good to
begind with state New York. I do good, Homer, don't I.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I just thought, I go this is interesting. And then
somebody else goes, yeah, twenty twelve, they started it and
they have video, and he goes, hey, look if anybody
else can claim it, I mean, I'm willing to do it,
but I'm the claiming I'm started started. It shows how
a person sees themselves, right, And I mean, if I
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say I started it, that's a pretty bold thing.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Look at me.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
I want to know who was the first person who
yelled freebird at the concert. I'm dying to know who's
the guy who started that shit that's been going on
for almost five decades.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Gosh, here night we did a comedy show and my
buddy Steve and I performed and people started yelling freebird.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
We played free bird and people left.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
No, it's it's just how about here were the audience
and they just decided to leave.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
How about for the person who started the wave? Where's
that guy? I haven't seen him? Come up? I haven't
seen that.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
No, we haven't.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I'm assuming a guy.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
They're British or something. They're probably like overseas.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
But do we have the most identity driven fan base
with the Bill's Mafia? Oh? Yeah, because they have nothing
else to hang on to. Well, like extreme rituals like
jumping through a table? What says I belong more?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
What's more extreme?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Jumping through a table or getting sprayed with ketchup and mustar?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Amen? And look, we see this stuff. It becomes kind
of like viral in the moment it sounds ridiculous. I
don't even know how you clean yourself up. You got
to go home smell them like you can't get that
smell off you unless you shower and use some soap.
I don't know what they're doing, but I think to myself,
the fans of Buffalo have endured decades of suffering. Yeah fair,
(13:16):
oh yeah, and so smashing a table to me is
kind of that, I'll say, symbolic release, right, that joy
that they get. That's like all the frustration comes out, camaraderie, chaos,
all that stuff blended together. It's all right there. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, he not a fan, No, I'm in the minority.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Though.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
If you people enjoy that, you go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
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CEO yeah i know. This one you are familiar?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
With, it, YES okay i got the, guy's name but
he has a lot of heavy.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Hitters on yes.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
He Does. Steve, bartlett yep is that? HIS name i think? So,
yet okay so he HAD The Ceo, natalie dawson who
is the co founder and President Of. Cardon, ventures okay
and she revealed that she once fired two employees immediately
after discovering they were cheating on the. Romantic PARTNERS and,
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i believe.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Sure she's not Rowning the. BUFFALO bills i believe that
a couple.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
OF times i believe she said she made this decision
without a. Second, thought okay even though the affair did
not involve their partners working at. The company in, OTHER
words i don't think the people they were hooking up
with Worked At. Cardovan, Ventures, okay okay this is Great card.
OONES company i. DON'T know i didn't look Up Who cardone,
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ventures is but it very well. COULD be i thought the.
SAME thing i. Didn't look, she says if someone cheats
in their, personal life she believes they can't be. Trusted
professionally what do you think? OF that i could.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
SEE that, I mean, i mean. You can't it's hard
to make. A generalization it is very hard. To generalization
but everybody seemed to, love well everyone seems to love
a couple of presidents known.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
For this People, loved.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Clinton yes Right when clinton got caught Cheating on hillary
In The white house With A white, house intern which
could be considered not just a.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Co worker but.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
An underling, oh, ABSOLUTELY okay i mean the power dynamic
there because the, right.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
Said, you know can, A star this, is awful get
it out. Of OFFICE and i don't care who he
screws as long as he's running, the, country right as
long as it's food on. My, table now fast Forward
to Trump And stormy daniels, or whomever and the, right.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Goes look i'm not electing. A pastor i think.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
A president i've always said politics is just one big wrestling.
Lumberjack match we just side. With whoever we play the
same playbook with whoever, we like and whoever.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
We don't do you think a lack of integrity at
home equals a liability at? The, workplace yes. You.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Do yeah if you can't be a leader, at home
you can't be. A.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
LEADER now i only saw a little bit of. This
Podcast STEVE bartlett i believe is. His name. The host
he did push back and argue that employees' private lives
are not. Employer's business NOT sure i can, understand that
and that personal and professional behavior can. BE separate i
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can behave one WAY and i, would say think of your.
Own lives i'm not saying that you're a cheater, or
anything but think of your. Own lives you talk one
way maybe to, your mom in a different way to,
your wife and maybe a different way to your. Best
friend we all, do that right a. Little BIT so
i thought there's some precedent maybe there that people. Do,
(19:11):
this however he pushed back on the idea of acting
as quote unquote the government of everyone in over anyone's
relationship in. THE workplace i.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
DON'T know i THINK that i just want to go
back TO what. I, said, sure okay if you can't lead,
it home you probably are not good at leading in.
The office, THAT said i don't know that it is
the boss's job to fight you if you're having an
affair outside. Of work outside, of, work now if it's within, the,
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workplace yes now we got.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
A problem that's an hr.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
ISSUE outside i don't know that that is that that
is a very. Slippery, slope look and by, THE way
i don't condone any.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Of, THAT no i know, you DON'T and i know
you've been sort OF can i is the term victim
of this to? Some? Degree, YES right i, mean, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah yeah in a previous life, we've yes.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
We talked To about, i'm sorry, UH what i, don't,
know sorry because that was my.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Whole thing you had nothing to do. With, it dude you,
NAILED it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I know but still mir animo for. The wind she
went on LinkedIn, This Woman, natalie dawson and she said
leaders hold the line on integrity and that if someone
is dishonest in one part, of life it won't magically stop.
At work and there is something about that that sort
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of makes my sphincter pucker a, little tighter because even
Our Friend greg connors has said he believes golf is
a great game to see sort of the integrity. Of somebody, oh.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Yeah there's a MUG that i got from my uncle
one YEAR when i.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Was sixteen, it says you want to find out what a,
guy is what someone, is like play around a golf. With,
them okay we want to find out the character. A
man play one round of golf with him and you
will learn.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So much So she, I'm sorry i'm still. Eating Going
NATALIE dawson ceo says that she kind of framed the
firings as protecting culture and not. PUNISHING people i. Don't
know that's A, little well that's.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Our company she can do what.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
You want, well exactly so someone's got. DIFFERENT philosophies, i
mean you Go. To netflix right the moment you walk in,
the door they're trying to fire You.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
At, netflix yes the reason is because they.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Want to get the most out. Of you they want
you to perform under pressure to the point where you'll
drive yourself out. Of it wants to KNOW what, i
mean because people want The word netflix on. Their, resume
hey LOOK what i was able.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
To do.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But is it a bigger cultural shift in a way
as we say this for companies acting as the more
a police arbiters of? Some kind you KNOW what? I
MEAN and i. Don't know there's a line between personal
ethics and, professional behavior and it sort of begs the
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question where does the company's authority begin? An, END yeah i.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
UNDERSTAND that, i mean let's put it. This way if
let's let's apply this to several walks. Of life let's
apply it to, Law enforcement let's apply it, to politics
let's apply it. To church let's apply this to. Pro
sports we'll have, that, one right we wouldn't have anybody
left well accepting the accepted church because you cannot have
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that in.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Your church that that has, to.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Go, hang on that has.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
To go but the OTHER aspects i.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
DON'T think, i mean but here's something that's interesting that you.
Point out all those people, are leaders and what's attractive.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Strong, powerful people especially strong.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Powerful. Men, Yeah Right and i've been held up in
society for Some LONG and i had a CHURCH that
i went to that the pastor was caught banging his
secretary who people used to call. Ant pudgy that's what,
our kids her nieces and nephews called her on The Upstate.
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New YORK.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Why i went to a church? Growing up not now.
Me too growing up they had the sat. Somewhere SITUATION.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
So, I mean, i go what? About gambling what? About
drinking what? About? Hookups? Divorce politics here's The thing i'm. Not,
sure look it is a, private COMPANY and i tried
to do a little Research on some courts have, upheld
firings others have ruled. Them unlawful IN, THE us i
think you're an at. Will, Employment yeah and so it
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gives companies pretty much a, wide LATITUDE and i think
it sort of depends on. The judge they can fire
people for personal conduct unless protected by, discrimination law which
is very specific in its wording. And protections so there's
lawful off duty conduct and there's statues. On that can
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you guess? The states there are three states that have
lawful off duty conduct statutes In, Place, utah, no okay
but There is west and it does It? Borders utah they,
share border so a little.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Further, East, okay colorado you.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Got it.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
That's surprising.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Uh huh colorado would, have. That yeap SO would i
think more States?
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Like, colorado no.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
You may you may just think of some.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Liberal, States, okay california?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Doesn't it you? Got?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
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Speaker 2 (24:39):
Uh huh and then there's one, More Baby.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
New york you got it Up State.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
New, york now there have been lost is involving people
fired for, relationship choices but all the results vary. By
state they. Really DO so i. DON'T know i have
known people have been fired for consensual relationships at, the
workplace but there are sometimes stated in the handbook or
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it's sort of an.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Unwritten rule you don't what do? They say you don't
dip your pen in? The company.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
OH okay i was, gonna say shit where, You're SLEEP
but i got it. Or eat.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
We're.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
In, business.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Uh people have been fired for in. Moral behavior it's
not that's.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
NOT uncommon i think if morality is, your culture if it's,
like church then you need to.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Go right but.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
That's church now when we're talking about, SOCIETY business I
think i think there's a little bit of overreach there in,
some cases unless it's two people within. The, workplace okay
once it BECOMES an, hr issue all that's.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Are off.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
All right so this woman who runs This Company, cardon
ventures or SHE'S the ceo.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Of, IT yeah i don't.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Say running she believes that personal behavior equals. Personal behavior
that's basically what. She's saying if you do, this here.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
You call her outside. The, lines there you'll call her.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Outside right but psychology sort of, complicates that it, really
does because occasionally people. ARE dishonest i mean, they're kind but. Occasionally,
dishonest well let's put.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
THIS way i mean Our friend tom youu lay once
said behind every, great fortune he's a.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Great.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Crime, Yes yes so SHE'S the ceo of. This company
i'm sure she worked her you know what off to.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Get. There, Huh okay but.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Sometimes it's better to Ask for we've all been told
it's better to ask forgiveness than ask. For, permission yes
so to BE the ceo is of. Political gain just.
Like politics there's always a corner, cut here something chopped,
off there there's, trade.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Offs there's deals and all this.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Other stuff so it's kind. Of taking you better have
your hands completely clean if you're gonna BE. The ceo
it's gonna cast judgment on somebody in your underneath. Your
purview you're just doing.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Something on their.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Own, Time again i'm not condoning this on a, personal
level but at a, business level you better.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Be clean so and by, the way clean. In, everything
sure because here's, the question.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Cleaner Than A supreme, court, justice which by, the way like, you, know.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah but it raises this question. To me is it
dangerous to reduce a person's, entire character their, entire character
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Moms Dam H kim Zito And Rosanna Mango El. Magno
magno we're charged with racketeering after allegedly taking part in
a two million dollar mafia linked illegal online sports betting
ring run by their sons and Financed By Joseph Little,
(29:45):
joe burna a purported soldier In the lucasy. Crime FAMILY
and i believe L ucch e s E is, Lukesy yes, lucas,
yes yes well they Were.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
IMPLICATING lucasy i think we're one of the family that
were IMPLICATING the. Fbi investigation yes WITH, the nba you.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Got It kim zito flaunted glamorous lifestyle on, social media
Complete with, gucci bags, home flips. Inspirational quotes magno maintain
a quieter online presence working in, retirement services but prosecutors
say that from twenty twenty two to twenty, twenty four,
two years both women helped funnel or conceal illegal gambling
(30:26):
cash from a national online sportsbook operation Coordinated By. Little
Joe little joe and several family members including Her Sons
frank Zito and Joseph And, anthony magno and, a nephew
all in their. Early twenties the ring allegedly used a
network of bookmakers across the country to take, illegal bets enrich,
(30:49):
the defendants and keep the. Operation running fourteen people across
multiple states are now, facing charges and this bust Follows
another luczy gambling crackdown earlier. This year tharti said that
was what you were referring. To say zeno accepted illegal
cash in late twenty, twenty Three while magno attempted to
hide gambling ledgers in twenty twenty five during a. Police
(31:11):
stop their attorneys have. Not, commented obviously sports betting as,
IT is i go as the new. Family business when
some suburban moms become the side.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
Hustle, For, this yeah it's.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Right THERE and i don't know why you WOULDN'T do i.
Don't know if it's, more exciting if it's more of a,
cash deal you can hide. It better but it's, still
happening even though we have legalized Gambling In new jersey
And In. New york jersey had, It First new, york
followed because then why people going across, the, border.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Right because that's what.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
People. Do yes, of course of course.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Everyone's in on even the, sports organizations, sports leagues they're
only in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
On it but it's so weird that the modern mafia
is blending so well into normal suburban.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Making a cutback.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Because it used to be smoky back rooms, with bookies
you Know what, I'm saying like that you saw this money. Counting,
machines yeah and now we got, highly educated social media
savvy people that are, suburban women and it's kind of
blurring the lines between illegal gambling AND mainstream i, don't.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
KNOW wow, i mean it's it's almost like you have
the opportunity to do this people have the opportunity to
do this with, their phone why do they feel like
they need to go and do? THIS privately i, guessn't
know because it's older people who just don't understand how to.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Use, technology maybe but there's also that well, could BE
but i. Don't know if you've got, higher stakes better,
QUICKER payout i don't know what. IT is i really
don't ways to not be taxed on the money that.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You, make oh that's probably what.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
IT means i, DON'T know i. Really don't. I'm trying
i'm making things UP as. I, top like if.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You Win, on FanDuel you're getting you're getting a ten ninety.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Nine, form yeah well it depends on, How.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Much, rightyeah yeah we have to win over like five
hundred dollars or something, like that and then like, you
know it's get.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Report it you gotta.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Like YES but i mean it's less Like the sopranos
and more like, you know The The real Housewives Of.
Monroe county that's the.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Funniest part the Wives.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Are yes if you remember A, good fella it was
A good fellow is a casino where those good fellas
WHERE the fbi had to click off after so, Many
minutes so we put our wives on, the phone and
after ten minutes then we would jump on and then
talk and then hand the phone back to.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Our wives something maybe, like that who's gonna suspect?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
The? Wives right but then when You're buying gucci and
all this, other stuff it's like that other seat And
good fellas where, they go.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well the cars in my?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Mother's NAME would i tell you don't big purchases at
The loose.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Luffonza heist danny remembers all this stuff because he secretly
wanted to be part Of The silver creek. Crime family
but let me ask, you this why is sports betting
really when you look, at stocks, hedge funds, day traders
it's all, a gamble. It is it's all. A GAMBLE and, i,
(33:59):
GO so i, don't know you got one from a
paraphild kitchen and one you KNOW what? I, MEAN.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yes i think the difference is with the stock market
is that there's been proven methods where if you invest
your money certain ways, over time it'll all.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Like, Grow SURE but, i mean are we criminalizing people
that are doing what hedge funds have done? All along
just to?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Do it because if they're not but everything like securities
is highly, highly Regulated and i'm sure that there's backdoor
dealings and insider trading. And whatnot it's the appearance of being.
Highly regulated you can't you can't regulate, you know well, Card,
games no.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You can't and here's, the thing like we said this
just a few, Minutes ago BUT as i think, about
it and as we're, talking here why wouldn't you just
use the legal? Betting services why? Risk this why risk?
All this and there is a going back to even.
An affair there's something about doing something on the sneak
that is. Really exciting there's exclusivity, to it there's secrecy.
(34:58):
To it, There, there yeah this's and you can. Launder
it well you got this insider. Status, Though well i'm,
just saying like why would people? Do that and and.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Because it makes me somebody makes me, feel.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Important right it. Really does you know who that is?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Over, there yeah, that's Uh that's.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Joey's mom joey's mom warns that.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Whole, thing well it's the thrill of beating the system
and really getting the cash pay broke down.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Like cash buttels read together, like yeah you just say The,
mob okay you know WHAT the causat means what it
means if you say It. In english this thing, of,
ours well, our thing so make you get down like
it's a. Fancy day it's. Like cash really you ever
watch a, Mob.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Movie but you have, to, ask like making betting legalized
to a, certain degree is it removing the stigma that
you know it was always this sort of.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Well yeah especially when you got like pro athletes saying bet,
DRAFT gigs i mean draftkigs is now sponsoring Everything fandel
it's it's almost like the here's the thing. ABOUT DraftKings
i think that this is gonna turn into if the
federal government really gets involved, in this because everything's, smoking.
Mirror right they don't want us to look at what's
(36:13):
really going on and what we really. Want done so
we're gonna focus on the mob a gambling and make
it look like we're doing. Something right so it's gonna
be like the dot. Com boom everyone got a head
to get into website before and then all of, a
sudden what happened the dot com?
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Bubble burst.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
IT did i think there's only gonna be three or
four companies that are gonna survive. The gambling and by,
the way and you're gonna see if the government really leans,
on them you're gonna see less. Player props where's really?
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Were, all wow the player prop is really, the, Problem
right that's that's where, The problem that's where the. Problems,
are yeah it's interesting to ME because I as, i
go you are you forcing criminals to be a little
more creative because we've removed the stigma and anybody can you?
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Know?
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Better dollar and it's. Just FUN and i don't really
know because there is the, thing like it's why is this?
Still surviving and the ONLY thing i can think of
is cash payouts a little. More exciting there is something
about it that.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
You're kind of a. Big deal you could hide. This
money it's. A lot it could be a lot. Of
money you don't have to. Claim, anything, nobody.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
No no no one, knows, anything right no. One knows,
you know all of, a sudden you Come. Home christmas
you know you're able to put that bow on the
car and put it in the driveway for your for.
Your wife you know you can plow jobs for. A year. You're,
fantastic hey? Thank you illegal, Gambling, WHATEVER.
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Yeah i know how to. MOVE it i wouldn't know
what to, do, WELL no i would know how to.
Hide that but you're.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Talking about these women who had what do, They say
gucci bags and. And other of course they had to.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Flaunt it you know when you come out of, your,
Baseline folks well.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
You got gucci bags and. Granite, countertops oh by, The
way DraftKings knockoff in.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
The, bay yes and you have a w two of
thirty thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Is somewhere, Driving around so it's their son somewhere Driving Around.
New jersey is a Bumper sticker magna in the back
of a minivan that says proud parent of. A felon
we'll find fault with. These Wins so i'm just telling winners, a, Win,
Buddy yes i'll Take the winner's a Win For dan
barrillo and All his bill's Gear like connor's And faris.
(38:27):
Bill's had oh is? It? Really yeah that.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Looks nice he's just.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Gonna, compliment yeah. Very Good I'm. Bill moran we'll see.
You Tomorrow Go Bell's Upstate. NEW york i woke Up
In holt he didn't know what. To do i'm TURNING
a tv won't rule a letter. To you stop a
dad in estate see if they were, looking borrow kind
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