Buffalo Bills Dominate Jets, Fan Loyalty Debate, NFL Hot Takes & Drivers Test Fears

Recorded right after the Buffalo Bills’ 30–10 win over the New York Jets, this episode of Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast comes to you from Greg Connors’ backyard! Bill welcomes Greg Connors of Connors & Ferris, Dan and Kevin’s son Tyler for an episode full of NFL talk, Bills insights, and some hilarious personal stories.

The crew kicks things off by recapping Sunday’s close NFL matchups before diving into Buffalo’s 2–0 start to the 2025 season. Greg shares his biggest concerns about the Bills’ defense, and Dan revisits Josh Allen’s controversial comments to fans who left the Ravens game early. Bill and Greg loved Allen’s leadership moment, while Dan strongly disagreed—sparking a great debate on fan loyalty.
From there, the conversation shifts to:

• Greg’s firsthand experience at the Bills’ comeback win in Baltimore
• Whether Russell Wilson can salvage his career
• Greg’s bold prediction on which NFL coach could be fired by Friday
• The possibility of Brian Daboll being on the hot seat with the Giants
• Tyler’s perspective as a high-level hockey player—including his funniest “embarrassing dad” stories
• What it takes to pass a driver’s test (and why most adults might fail today)

Along the way, Greg opens up about his biggest fears, Tyler shares his nerves about retaking his driver’s test, and Bill recalls his own terrifying (and funny) moments learning how to drive. Plus, the guys look ahead to Thursday night’s big matchup against the Miami Dolphins in Buffalo.
This episode blends great Buffalo Bills insights, NFL hot takes, and personal laughs you love from Billified!


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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
On location and driven by Victor Chrystlin dods Gie Brown.
It's Billified the Bill Moran Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, hello and welcome from the backyard of Greg Conners
where we just watched the Bills. I mean I didn't
see that coming. I did not see that any of
that coming. I think, what was it in the end,
thirty to ten? They got like a garbage touchdown Tenorron
Taylor in the end, Yes, yeah, just a junker one.
But the other games have been so exciting, like, yeah,
the NFL is like very exciting right now as these

(00:48):
games are light. I mean, we just watched our games.
Russell Wilson launched one over.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Kyri Is at forty yards Yeah, yeah, forty five yards
over kyr Elim to Malik Neighbors.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh and Eram has his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Neighbors face mask, never still catches the.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Ball like he fell right into his And that was
a beautiful threat, beautiful, beautiful, unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Bengals won without Joe Burrow was.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Great, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then New England. Are you a fan of New
England because of your dad?

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh yeah, I am.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
All right, Tyler sitting in Hevin's here, but he said
you get out there and in there, Tyler's in there.
So but that game, like, I love seeing that. Greg
has a hot take.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, the hot take is with the Dolphins loss the
way that they did down in Miami. It's a short
week coming into Buffalo. They're gonna be coming in the
Orchard Park Thursday night. I think the Bills are rolling.
I think they're feeling good as long as they can
get healthier and stay healthy on defense if they get beat,
like the Bills just beat the Jets. Daniels fired on

(01:53):
Friday morning, and I don't know if he gets maybe
on the flight back home, he might have to take
his own flight out of Buffalo. He's gonna get beat
so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
And I don't know if he gets hired as a
head coach again after some of the stupid stuff that
comes out of his mouth after losses, like you can't
be cute at the at the podium when you get
your butts kicked.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, he may just be a coordinator.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I mean yeah, I could see him going back
to San Francisco and work with Kyle Shanahan and being
his right hand guy because the guy knows offense. Oh wow, wow, just.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Forty yard field goal to tie it against the Giant
stable the Rochester U of R Grad Western New York.
Guys just hate in life right now.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I am. I keep watching these games and I'm waiting
for some day Jerry Jones is just going to keel
over in that week, right because this has got to
get so stressful for that guy.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well he's not just the owner, Billy, he's the general manager.
To see the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
But it's uh, I have not watched.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I have not watched the.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I've only watched some of it.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
I've watched the first three up episodes.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, I think it's fantastic because I lived that. I
lived during that. I watched football all the Bill's Super Bowls.
Yeah yeah, And like meanwhile, here come like the Cowboys
who were awful all of a sudden four years they've
they won a Super Bowl. Five years, they win two,
seven years they win three and the third one they
went without Jimmy Johnson on autopilot basically because Barry Switzer
like not a pro coach. Yeah right, you know they

(03:24):
have him in the same since Jerry's ego.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
But it's Jerry, like Jerry, I don't know any other
team in the NFL. They just showed him on TV
where the first person they talked to is the owner. Yes,
they don't go to the coach, they don't go to
dak you know, it's usually the first person to comment
is Jerry. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Because well when they introduced Jerry Jones when he bought
the team, they had just fired Tom Landry before he
even bought the team. They introduced him at the press conference.
Tex Shram was the GM and the Cowboys. He goes,
I want his job, yeah, and Tex Shram right there
knew his job.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
It was over.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah, you know, his career in football was over at
that moment, but it was it was the Jimmy Johnson
hire that set the Cowboys up for the next fifty years. Right,
They've been living off that totally. They've been totally living
off that because the eighties they were like, remember the
Big Dallas Curse when the TV show Dallas existed. The
Cowboys couldn't win, the couldn't get to the Super Bowl.
Then Dallas canceled, Dallas gets canceled, and then they beat

(04:19):
the Bill.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I didn't know that the Dallas I never told that. Yeah, yeah,
I love about this podcast. I learned so much from
this podcast.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Well, Danny's a plethora of knowledge over there.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I don't know how just so many things, all right.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
The Buffalo Bills, I mean, even the guys uh, Tony
Romo and Jim Nantz were talking about the team and
saying things like they could go undefeated, or they could
be they could be like bye week nine possibly what
eight and o going into the Kansas City game.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, and that game's at home.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
And that game's at home, and that makes you a
little bit nervous when you hear these sorts of things.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
It depends on who are most Bills fans like, yeah, baby,
I know, I always feel like it, is it a
jinx thing?

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Look, we watched Josh Allen today leave the game for
the first time. I don't ever remember seeing that, and
know is he.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, like concerned for us? And we were watching it
in the man cave. Was you know, is it a concussion?
Now he walked off and he was you couldn't tell.
You weren't sure if he was like hallucinating or had
something going on, or was his broken nose. You know. Fortunately,
in terms of the reports, it looks like it's a
broken nose. But I mean he is He's the catalyst

(05:39):
of this, not just the offense but the defense. He
gives the defense energy. And without him on that field,
that team is a very different team.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Right. And when you saw that, like at first we
didn't know, and then you started to think, ooh, concussion
right with the nose. Clearly it didn't seem to affect
him too much when he got back in the game.
I mean, you think about the you get hitting the nose,
the first thing that happens is your vision goes likes
you well up, you can't see right, It's it's in the.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Paint's cruciating evable.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, you broke one that went through You broke your
nose that went through the skin.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah, I have a I have a scar here on
my notes the bridge of my nose. The bone popped
through it, and then the dockhead and that was I
can't even I've never experienced anything like that.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Crooked nose from uh getting hit in the face, but
that from boxing. Yeah, well, this wasn't really fun. I
might have been a street fight guy named Beers. I
beat him Beers, yes, and I beat him once in
a fight. And then UFC, this is this just one

(06:47):
the uh, this is like way back in like early nineties.
And then at the next party, he came up to me,
goes remember me, and then I turned my head and
he just unloaded, unloaded, unloaded. I was on the ground bleeding,
didn't know it's the whole thing. But I had busted
my nose before. But they can set it, yeah, you know,
you can set it back. This time I didn't. It didn't.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yeah, they pulled it down and set it in the skin.
Ultimately healed up. But yeah, it was nervous. I was
nervous because I mean, it wasn't necessarily that this game.
It's like, what impact does Josh having terms of getting
hurt for the duration?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Right?

Speaker 1 (07:20):
You know? Is it short terms at long term? I mean,
mister Bisky came in first pass, boom, great pass, first down,
moved the chains. Fortunately Josh was able to come back
and there wasn't any issues the uh yeah, and Josh.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Did come back. And of course we now know thirty
to ten and a lot of rushing yards. How many
yards did he throw for? Because I'm seeing Russell Wilson
through for almost over four hundred.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
No, I don't think Allen threw for that man, No,
he didn't it was a very like low key, low key.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
He didn't, he didn't. Coleman looked pretty good. Yeah, a
couple of look good, look good. Well, what is your
concerns through for one hundred and forty eight yards? Oh
see that seems low for him?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
It is low. You know, passer rating is seventy three. Okay,
I mean that's not that's a pedestrian game for Josh Allen,
that's okay.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, Kevin was saying how it hurt him in his
parlay or whatever, Josh, but you know the Bill's got
to win. Yeah, no, no, no, stay away from that.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Well, the what concerns do you have when you look
at the team as they go forward? Because I mean
Greg gets in there expectedly like a coach. She'll even
get upset when certain players are called. And you know,
why aren't we doing this? How come that? Where's the
guy off the end? I mean Bosa looked fairly good today?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, well that that that the on the third down,
Bosa got up the field and and uh fields got
outside him and then he ran for like forty yards
zig zag him through the freaking defense and he's got
to get up the field. Right, You got the edge
guy Bosa's and he and Bosa's good and he had
a great play, came back from behind, knocked the ball loose,
which was huge, and that like that second or third possession.

(08:54):
But you got to get up the field. You got
to turn him back inside, so then your interior line
and your line backers are filling. You get outside and
then all then he's got the full field. He's got
from the sideline into where he is, and then everything else,
everything else opens up because he got your secondary that's retreating,
your linebackers that are flowing, which creates lanes and cut
back on anyway, So what's what for me, the concern

(09:18):
is the safeties. And you know last week we couldn't
stop the run. Lamar had his way with us. But
then you had Ed Oliber step up and just make
a play. That's really what gave the Bills a chance
last week. So was yes, at the defense made the play.
And in the past, Josh Is, the offense has always
shown up and made plays, but the defense hasn't. So

(09:41):
last week against the Ravens, that was a great I
think that's a great momentum thing, and I think it's
great for the Bills to have the defense step up
to make the play to bring them back into that game,
to give him a chance to win. And this week
the defense shows up. I mean they gave up ten literally,
they gave up three isshes and so having the defense,
having that defense show up like that is huge. And

(10:03):
you know the crazy thing about this Dolphins coming in
on Thursday, short week they put a big points against
the Steelers, which shocked me. I thought they'd put up
more points against the Patriots, and so it's like, you know,
can this defense, how is the defense? The personality and
the success of this team as long as Josh and
the offense stays relatively healthy, is who shows up on

(10:26):
the d So my concern is.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
The d okay, I mean, and that's fair, and I
think there was everybody's concern even last week watching the game.
But take me back to that, because you were at
the game, when are you gonna do this?

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Hit the chimes?

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Are you gonna do this?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
You left early? Is that I wasn't gonna give you
ship for that. I was not gonna give you ship
for that at all. I totally get that. I mean,
going to a Bills game is it's it's job, right,
I mean in a way, it's enjoyable. It's a hell
of a lot of fun. But you to pack up,
get everybody. You get up there, you park, you get
settled in. Now you get into the stadium and it's like,

(11:06):
I got to get home. I got a job, you
own a business. I totally get that.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, you know. And we've had Dan and I have
a different take on the whole Josh comment. I have appreciated.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I didn't care for I love Josh all, don't you
get wrong. But it's like he said it twice. It
was very passive aggressive. You gotta believe in us. It
wasn't you, dude. It was your defense. And people gotta.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Work, he's saying us. I don't think he's I think
he talks about the whole team. I know what he means.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
I know what he means. But the point was like,
it's a Sunday night, people have to work Monday, more
set and you're getting their head a They had a
point nine, not a nine point zero percent chance of winning.
They had a point nine less than one percent chance
of coming back after that run by Taylor where he
was dead to rights in the ends, I'm sorry Lamar Jackson.
He was dead to rights in the end Z and
then the touchdown by Henry. I would have walked out too.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
I want the quarterback to say that. I want the
quarterback to be cocky and say things because I don't think.
I certainly didn't take it as a fan like, oh,
how dare you? I took it as a hey, got
to stick around. This is a show.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Show And to me that was the demonstration of why
Josh Allen is a great leader. He did not embarrass us. No,
he didn't say, you lose your piece of ships who
left early, you have no faith in you know.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
He didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
He just was like, hey, yeah, some people left early.
Have faith. Man, we're here, we're working and have faith.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Filedd's by the book. He wants this guy to be
for me. I love hold on.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
I would have walked out, Yes, I do. I would
have walked that film.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Josh was talking to me.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
He was embarrassing, like, because my whole thing is all right,
you're the only head coach quarterback combination that have wanted
many games as you have and not been in the
Super Bowl, and then you come back with a home
open on a Sunday night in a revenge game where
you should have probably lost the Baltimore playoff game last year,
but Barnerberg turns so now they come into your house
and they literally you cannot stop them. And that's why

(13:06):
I would it would have been a culmination of things.
That's why I would have walked out.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And that is why I walked out. But what I
love about what Josh did and as a leader and
as somebody who I want to have as a leader,
having him say what he said to the rest of us,
all of us Bill's Mafia who either went to bed,
turned the TV off, or left the stadium early, is
don't ever count us out. Yes, I show, I show

(13:30):
up every day and I put my I put on
the line for us, and I'm part of the Bill's Mafia.
Do the same for me as I'm doing for you.
And that's what I took from it. And as when
I'm looking for a leader and I'm looking for a guy,
whether it be in business, whether it be on a team,
I want the guy who says, believe in me, believe
in me. When the ship is down and nobody believes

(13:52):
in us, you believe in me, and I will take
you there.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Take me to take that to a business perspective, Greg,
because we hear all the analogies. But that's exactly what
you're looking for. You're looking for someone who's like, in
that fourth quarter crunch is gonna, I don't know, pull it,
but we say pull it out of your ass. But
but go that extra mile, make that extra call, make
that extra whatever, and try to get the deal done.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And it all, you know, it all comes down the preparation.
And so you know, in business there's business fluctuations. You
have cycles and business and it's up and its down,
and businesses come and go. And the differences between those
that stay and those that leave are those who are
prepared for the situation and those who are willing to
put the extra effort in. And it's not just showing up.
It's like Ed Oliver making the play, being prepared going

(14:39):
into the second half based upon the blocking scheme they
had on him, and he actually hit some gaps that
he didn't hit in the first half which put him
in the position to make the play, and then he
put the effort in. And I love watching these games,
and particularly Super Bowls and playoff games where all of
a sudden the guys buy you and it seems like
he's you can't get to him, and they put the
extra effort in and they make that lunging play and

(15:02):
not get the ball like Bosa did on the run
coming from behind.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
He's not all out.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, that's the stuff that wins games. In terms of business,
it's that preparation. Staying after five o'clock, it's like five
thirty or six, you're coming in early and you're doing it.
Those are the things that get you that. Those are
the things that you win. Yeah, and that's the person
that you want to fight for.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
We joked earlier like you had McDaniel and Vrabel, and
he saw the two guys on the sideline and we
said we were sitting in the making. Who would you
weather play for?

Speaker 2 (15:31):
I've probably played for Rabel, But that's that's me.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Play for.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
I always had guys that in my life that were
tough on me. My dad was tough on me, like
I can go back fifth grade. He kept threatening to
hold me back. Right I was with a little bit
of effort. I had low a's rights, so he made
me write down every assignment, bring it home. I have
the teacher sign it. Bring it home, he had to

(15:57):
sign it, and my grades went back up to higher as.
Right then, all of a sudden, the teacher says, you're
being too hard on him. He takes his foot off
the gas, and I was like, right back down to
the low eighties. And that was to me. I respond
better to somebody who's holding me to a hot accountable
and accountable. And I think even now, like it's hard
to do that sometimes for yourself.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And what I loved what Josh did is and I
think I took it this way. I hope the rest
of the Bills Mafia took it this way. Is that
he's holding us accountable to be the fans that we
have the reputation to be that we're not. We're not.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
We're not you know, fly by Night half assed fans.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
We're all in.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yeah, we've been in.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
We've been you know, we could go. You know. Part
of the reason, my part of my excuse why I
left early is because I've been a fan for so long.
I've been through the games where you're up and it's
thirteen seconds. I've been you know. I've been through the
Music City a miracle, I've been.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Through I remember watching all that and so you're just.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Like, come on, And I actually lost faith. I lost
the faith that they weren't going to come back, they
weren't going to make a stop. Mcdermal was gonna make
another ridiculous call to go for it for two when
he should have just kicked the field goal and gotten
the extra points.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
I think there was three of them.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
And so you know, for me, it's like what Josh
said was, look, we're going to put our effort in.
All I want you to do is put your effort
and you do your best as a fan, which means
state of the goddamn man. And I'm gonna do my best.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
I would have left. I'm with you, and I did.
Outside of this, watch you.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
I didn't go to bed my life, did I did.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I started to go to bed. I turned the game off,
and I was getting fed the scores. I'm in my
bathroom flossing my teeth and I see the score and
I go, oh my god, if they score, and they
and it said they had the ball. If they score that,
this is it. Yeah, they could win. So I jump
into bed, put on Peacock on my phone, and I

(17:57):
watched it on my phone and I was like this is.
I mean, you have to admit if nothing else that
excites the fan base. Yeah right, I mean, I hear you, Danny,
You're not the only one who said that. Peter said
the same thing about Josh. He didn't like it either.
I kind of did. I liked it because I don't
see him as as uh he's so there's nothing humbling.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know he is.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
He's a humble kid. There's no question.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I think Tyler's generation, in the generations that are between
Tyler and us, they don't understand what it means to
be accountable to someone else and to have Josh, who's
a twenty something year old say to an old ass
man like me who's got a lot more history of
the Bill's failures, to say, dude, have faith in us,

(18:42):
you work hard, you do what you're gonna do. Don't
quit on me. I'm not going to quit on you.
Don't quit on me, you know what, I'm not going
to quit on him.

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since Greg brought you up? What happens in a game

(19:36):
where you're down like that and all of a sudden
something one play and you can just feel the energy
shift toward your team. Have you had that?

Speaker 4 (19:44):
Yeah, so, say jeezus.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Tyler plays hockey at a pretty elite level.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, so we go down by a goal. You know,
you nentwer right back. You feel that spark and you're
like hey, and even the crowd, the crowd gets you
into it too. Like at some of the high school games,
you know, you have two student sections that are just
going nuts. They get into it, they start chanting, they
start and then all the parents are yelling to and
just one one little thing can spark a huge thing,

(20:11):
and one big hit, one big hit, everyone banging their
sticks on the board.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Like you did last year. And was it in the
finals or what was one of the hockey games I
was at with your dad? You had a nice you
made a great play that got the whole energy going everybody,
your teammates got into it. And that's the thing. And
as a fan, yes, that's what Josh is saying, is that, Look,
we're gonna give you that chance. Be there for that.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
When is when is your dad embarrassed you at the game? Oh?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
I'm kidding kidding me? Last game?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Well he knows the game so well. Last game.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
It wasn't like it wasn't like embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
But you walk home again. I walk home.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
I like.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Falls Canada.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
So the game Friday was at Lake Shore and I
kind of take the puck from out of the corner
the middle of the ice and shoot it and I
get like knocked over after it, and I'm like skating
to the face off that and all of a sudden
I look up and I hear my dad going, you're
really gonna take You're really gonna take that.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
But that's what you're right, that kind of what does
that do to you? Does it fire you up? Well?

Speaker 4 (21:15):
I think I'm pretty sure a couple of plays later,
I scored right after that. Yeah, that that happens a
lot too. I'll come down the left side and I'll
try to pick a corner and I kind of sail
it over and I hear shoot better from about I
want to say, four dads on our team?

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Is it true that, like when you play in Canada,
if you have a bad game, your dad said, you
want to be tariffed? I will you right now?

Speaker 4 (21:44):
Hockey there, hockey there is nuts. I had a tournament
over the spring in Canada, and that was my first
time going over to Canada, like playing Canadian teams, and
I was like, holy ship, this is like a different.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Level is it that same age, same age group?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Why do you think it's just all they do all?

Speaker 4 (22:02):
That's all they do over there. It's just straight training
and all. Like some of these teams, like you pay
so much money and it guarantees you like four ice
sessions a week off ice workouts and other stuff, and
these these guys are just some of these guys are
just nuts.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
What do you do? So when you're in a situation
like that, is it intimidating to you? Because now you're
you went and played on for a Canadian team, Right,
so you're with the kids that are getting all that,
but you seem to your dad said you fit in.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I want to say the first tournament, I was kind
of like an iffy because I didn't really know what
to expect. And then we kind of had we had
another tournament, and I kind of just settled in more.
I think throughout the tournament the first time I settled
in a little bit, but I think at the second tournament,
I settled in a lot more.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, I mean, you know, And that's the thing about
right in anything you do in life, is it you
walk in you don't know where you fit, do I
actually belong? And when you figure out you belong, then
you get your confidence, then you get in and you
work into it. And in terms of you know, being
held accountable, is that you know, there's a certain expectation
that you have on a team, and there's a certain

(23:10):
expectation that you have in an organization and when somebody
falls below it a lot of times, and I think
the younger generation gets offended by people that hold you accountbles,
like you need to do better than that.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
And I think our generation are us old guys.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Now, I think we want to be We're more deferential
because we don't want to offend someone. We don't want
to hurt someone's feelings, we don't want to get in trouble,
and so holding somebody accountable through the generational gaps is
actually difficult to navigate.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Picked off horrible throw.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Horrible to me was a Hall of Fame quarterbackieving he
was already like headed there right leaving Seattle. He then
goes to Denford. I feel like it was just a
ship show after that, like the guy's whole career, Like,
I don't think he's getting in. I thought that, I
asked you today. He's now on his third team, right,

(24:09):
and with New York, that was a beautiful pass to
get them. But it's like.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Man until Dallas kicked out sixty.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
If Eli Manning gets in the Hall of Fame, you
have to put Russell in there. But Russell. But like
Russell's legacy, like after that interception in the Super Bowl
against the Patriots, right, his career has gone backwards.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, well Danny, you say that, and and with all
due respect, it's because of the numbers. But Eli didn't
go on to another team after New York and Falter
and found no, he didn't three times. I know, well
two times, but he the third time.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Eli's whole career was based on winning those two Super
Bowls the Patriots, but then he did nothing else. That's that.
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
So as a Bills fan, that's.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
I'm an Eli man and guy. I mean, I hope
he hits in, but I think Russ should too. But
Russ's career has just gone side that interception.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
And he doesn't do himself any favorite.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
The story about Russell Wilson is that he is a poser,
that the guy you see at the podium and the
guy you see on camera is not the guy that
he really is, and it rubs people the wrong way
that Kyle Brandt tells this great story where he's at
the NFL Honors a couple of years ago. Russell Wilson's
walking in with Sierra, his wife, and Kyle's supposed to
interview goes to interview him, and Russ puts his hand

(25:31):
up like, don't talk to me. Really, guy was a
Man of the Year candidate, won the Man of the Year.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
So you are an actor, you want to know who
the man of the Year is And then Josh, everybody,
everybody knows this because you hear these stories, but I
can give you like personal accounts. So I have a
good friend that's down in New York for the game today.
He drove down with his son for his birthday, and
he stood out in front of the hotel down in
Jersey City and the team gets ound the point, gets

(26:00):
on the gets on the bus going into the stadium
and there's only four or five people standing out there,
and uh, the players come in and a couple of
guys come over and say hi to this thirteen year
old kid and it's his birthday. And he's like, yeah,
we came all the way from Rochester from my This
is my birthday present is to come to this game
with my dad and my buddy. And they got on

(26:22):
the bus. Josh walked in, didn't know any better, walks
on the bus, and a couple of the guys on
the on the bus told Josh that this kid came
all the way from Rochester for his birthday. Josh got
off the bus and went took a picture with him,
wishma happy birthday, then got on the bus to go
to the game. Yeah that's Josh Allen who who else
does that? I don't know, And there weren't any cameras.

(26:43):
Josh has no idea who this kid is. He doesn't
know that we know him. And and but that's just
the person he is, Yeah, human being that he is.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
You look to me, Josh Allen is getting into what
I would call the Michael Jordan air in terms of
celebrit right. And I remember why. I watch it probably
far too many times, but the last dance, I probably
watched it three or four times, to be quite honest
with you, And I'm always.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
Only four times. I took that person.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
But the guy would make the time, Like I mean,
you had to protect your time. You've got to set boundaries.
There's no no doubt. But he he would go before
games and he'd be laughing with it, and I'm going,
how quickly do you have to get your head in
the game? Right? Josh had the bus ride. I get
all that, but you're right, it's the same kind of thing.

(27:32):
You go out of the way to create the fan
who won't leave the stadium. That's what we're trying to do.
That's what Josh wat and he did, which he has done.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
It's Tony Robins.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Prescott just ran down to get him in the field
goal arrange to beat the Giants. Could Dabo get fired
before Mike McDaniel.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Yes, yes, But I don't think you don't think they
will be fired?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
No, no, they he I don't Thinkdab was gonna get fired.
I think the Tish and the Marra family, they really
like him, but they're giving him like one last shot,
and they let they let him pick their quarterback, right
you know, Jackson Dart, So you're not gonna fire the guy,
and then you know, all of a sudden, the next
administration is stuck with this young quarterback sitting there and
two other guys you signed.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
And how many times have we seen that happen?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
After the last throw by Russell Wilson to turn the
ball over to give Dallas a chance and win this game.
Jackson Dart might get his first start next week?

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah too soon?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
No no, no, no, he's not. He's not gonna get that
start until at least November. Mike Francessen was talking about it.
There's too many big games coming up. They got Philadelphia
next week, then they got a shot, then they got
a short I think it's a short week coming up.
I mean it's gonna be too hard to do that,
to throw Jackson Dart to the Wolves, but it's gonna
be And not to mention, they're also paying Russell Wilson

(28:45):
ten million dollars. You're not gonna pay him ten million
dollars to start two games?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, true.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
So I don't think that's happening. I think that, you know,
Dart's gonna probably play in the second half of the season.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Okay, we'll see that. Will you talk about almost going
to New York if you want to stay away from that, I.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Mean for today's game, Yeah, yeah, I mean we we
We've been trying to get to New York for the
last three years, but the weather when the Bills has
been going down has been horrible. And we were going
to get on a plane last year and it was
all weather. And we went to get down this private
plane and it was like a crop duster, and Bryce,
the kid who's birthday is this weekend, he and I

(29:25):
looked at each other. We got on the plane and
he and I were like scared shitless, like there's not
a chance in hell I'm going to jump on this
plane to fly down there. And when they were going down,
I just we bowed out and said, yeah, we're gonna
watch it back here.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I mean, was it just YouTube were uncomfortable with us?

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Uh? Yeah, I mean Jennifer were. They were okay, they
were okay.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
As you get that gut feeling sometimes I go, you're
better off, right, But both.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
The Billy and Jennifer like like crazy roller coasters too. Yeah,
I'm not a big roller coaster guy. Death just seemed
too close to the window.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Well, you know the Leonard Skinner's story. Do you know
who was supposed to own that plane? No, Aerosmith. Aerosmith's
pilot toward the plane and said, no, no.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Really by this plane? Wow? Okay, yeah, yeah. Because the
thing is like I always think that my uncle is
a pilot, was a pilot for Delta. My cousin's a pilot.
I don't know what airline he's flying for. Uh. But

(30:33):
my uncle would not go into like single engine planes
and stuff. And I remember he was like, give my
dad ship because when I was really little, we took
a single engine flight over the Grand Canyon, like one
of those sights sing thing. My Uncle's like, I would
never get on there because once that engine goes, you
don't have anything else, you know, But there is something
I really always wanted to do, and I think you
can do it out of dance Ville on the dance

(30:54):
Field Airport. Not not the hanglitder the glider oh yeah yeah,
fully encapsulated and it's just quiet and you're just riding
the My brother did that many years ago and loved it.
So I was like, God, that just looks so cool
to me.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I've seen that down in Dansville, coming from Hornew, living
in horn growing up in Hornell and living in Hornew
for so long, and I did see that, and that's
scarce a ship out of me.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
It doesn't You wouldn't do it?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
No, No, I I you well, I I have crazy anxiety.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Anyways, what happens when you fly? Do you take something?

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, it's called it's called gray goose.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Do you want to wait? You go to all the games?
You went to all the West Coast.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Games and I and I have Yeah, I have I
have I have a I have a hack expresso martini
that you grabbing an espresso from the Dunkin Donuts and
Rasher Airport and then I fill it up with some
vodka in Kolua and make my own little espresso Martini
and I get on the flight.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
My wife did that on the way of the Caribbean.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, and that's how I manage it. Now, everybody's gonna
might judge me for it, but you know, we all
have our ways of coping.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Absolutely, that's my Yeah. But I didn't realize i'd like
flying was not a thing you.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Because you crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, you're up and down all the time.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah. And I drink a lot of Vodkan on those.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Planes really yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
A little like you know my my I call it
adult water. Yes, I have my I have my little
box my airplane Vodkas and then I grab my my
thing of water and I drink some and then I
pour the vodka into it and.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Go there like because I don't have that with the
flight pretty much, I don't have. I sometimes worry. Sometimes
I'm like, oh, maybe I should be scared of this
stuff or whatever, and I'm not. It's almost like I
don't have nerve endings for that type of ship.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I tell you, I mean for me, I don't like
fast car. I don't know who else has this, But
when I'm getting on a plane, my hands sweat, I
get my mind races about all the bad things that
could go on. And then once I have that, all
of a sudden, I'm just I just I'm just more calm,
more chilly. Now, you know, I probably should take an edible.

(33:00):
It's maybe a little more better. I should micro dose.
I get that.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I get that feeling before I get like checked onto
the plane, like like because I've had my license rejected
twice at the airport. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
My wife's why we get three hours before the.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Flight, not with the enhanced stuff. Well, this is before the.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Enhance That's I mean, something's going on here. I'm like,
oh great, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
You've ever had that out I've never had. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Three times we get to New York, like there's no
way we're getting on this plane. And then then but
in New York they're so busy, like just get on,
let's go. We got we got things to do. But yeah,
once I once I'm past security, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, And so there's no anxiety was flying then? No?
Is it a control thing?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Every time I get on a plane, I think I'm
gonna die really yeah, and it's you never will and yeah,
I mean chances are better for me to die in
a car actually, yeah. I mean the first time I
actually flow in an airplane, I was twenty five years old,
twenty four years old.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, and I just.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
Never had the experiences. And I don't, you know, it's
a it's a control thing because I'm not in control.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, but I get that. I mean, I I would
rather be the person in control right than the person not.
But when it comes to flying, I don't know, it
just kind of go.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And you know, the thing is, it's almost like a
I can I talk about it and people kind of
like laugh. And I've got friends that are like, yeah, right,
but I you know, I have like it's just a
it's a chemical reaction or whatever where I actually get
sweaty and you know, my armpits.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
And my hands and clammy.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
And I wish you could go back to the old
days of flying, which was was like like when they
had the bars up to the double If you had
the bar and people were in talking at the bar
and hang, it looked clamorous.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Yeah, like nice, they were smoking cigarettes on the plane.
There was whatever they wanted. But now now it's like
glorified bus ride, you know what I mean, it's right
now now.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Now I'm I'm stopping at I'm stopping at the dunkin Donuts,
like commenteering my way. Well, funny thing, like everyone now
sees me at the airport and like, hey, right, what
do you got started?

Speaker 3 (35:02):
We've all flown in New York into New York. And
my wife and I joked at the flight to New
York and the flight from New York back to Rochester
is easier than the ride from the hotel to the airport.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
And back because that's rougher than the actual flight, and
it's it's longer than the actual flight.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's the funniest part of that. Are so far out,
yeah they are. It's a nice little ride in right.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Out right, Like we get on, we get in the
in the Uber and we're like where these seatbelts?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
No need? I'm like what what?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I probably should be more anxious about the the cab
ride of the uber ride from JFK LA Guardia into Manhattan,
yeah than I am the flight, but yeah, I have
I'm not. Yeah, that's not me. And by the way,
just torched the Chiefs defense for a nice twenty yard
touchdown run to go up seven to nothing.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
And did Dallas win? Dallas? What they did. Our friend
Matt Reese will be happy. I think I'm not.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Oh yeah, he'll be in a good move.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I'm not sure it'll be critical of it because you know, yeah,
but he'll be happy.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
They want He's a deep fan. Have you been to
Leo's Bakery and Deli and East Rochester recently?

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
You got to get there. They're open every day, so
it's very convenient. It'll satisfy your sweet tooth, your sandwich cravings.
Get the Cubano. Tell them Billified said to have the
Cubano sandwich, fresh baked bread, hand crafted pastries, deli favorites,
and desserts like Canoli's that'll make you rethink your self control.
It's all waiting for you. So what's the best thing

(36:31):
about Leo's Everything? Check them out a desk Beast drive
in East Rochester because every day is a good day
for Leo's. Because the best thing about Leo's is everything.
Anything that scares you or hockey got that out of you.
Like you just went down to Disney and took all
those flights and things.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yeah, I was fine. I was more excited I got
the day before we left, like the night of Me
and Britty actually didn't go to sleep. You're up all night.
Our flight was around I think six fifty and we
didn't sleep at all.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
So how about the first time you've got checked really hard?
Scared you from ever doing that again? Did you try
to shy away from it?

Speaker 4 (37:06):
Oh? Yeah, I actually that would be scared. So like,
so my freshman year, we had a game of Batavia
and I scared of the puck and I didn't expect anything,
and like I get pushed from behind and then pushing
another defender and my helmet comes off, like completely off,
and I was like, what just happened? Like I wasn't
expecting anything, but like nothing bad, like I haven't I

(37:27):
haven't gotten heard or anything. Like it's not too bad,
Like I know, like I know when to go in
the corner and when to not. Like it's like I
don't know. It's kind of like a mental thing for me,
just going there experience.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
And after you got hitting that happened not even really
you realize you know it didn't nothing really bad happened,
So you get a little more confidence.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
You just got to get like blowing up like one
time there's just one yard and then you're fine, Like yeah, like.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
Your dad had a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Your dad probably did your dad. How tall were you
in high school? So you're six four now? Oh oh
six two? Excuse me? Thought he was a little taller
than that. He looks taller than he carries it well,
carries the height.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Thursday night, it's the Miami Dolphins coming into Buffalo. You'll
be there.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
I will be there.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, Okay, if they are just blowing them out in
the first half, we could leave it a half time.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
You would probably not leave at halftime. But if the
Bills are blowing them out and it's the end of
the third quarter, yeah, I will probably leave. However, if
the bills are down, yeah, I will not leave again.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Okay, I will not leave. You will not leave, not leave? Okay.
I mean that was exciting to to.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
I gotta I gotta, I gotta show I gotta show ja.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
The love, man, I gotta show him the respect. How
how loud were you screaming at the radio on the
way home?

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Oh my gosh, I lost my ship. I was going
absolutely crazy.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
But He's like, I could see Greg might being the
only person who could pull this off, going back to
the stadium saying, hey, you know I am. I'm good. Connors.
Can you let me back? Yeah, that's me. Could you
let me back in the stadium please? I got it's
the fourth corner. I gotta I gotta watch this.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I would never have said you know who I am,
but I would have tried to talk my way back in.
But and I didn't know this until after we got home.
But after we got home, uh, Sunday night, I heard
that as as they were kicking the field goal to
win the game, I was so into it that I
was going significantly faster than the speed limit. And I

(39:38):
had no realization that I was going that fast because
I was just so you know, as I'm driving, I'm
into it and just the intenhe call Connors and Farris,
and I heard, and I heard that I was going
a little bit faster than I should have been looking well,
and I was just like I And again I had

(39:59):
no appreciation of it. I was just so in the moment.
I was so excited. Yeah, it was so unbelievable that
was actually happening. And then my son was reminding me
that I can't believe we left. I can't believe you
did this to me. Oh I look, I started to
go to bed.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
I don't think there was a person watching that game
and they thought they would come back. They just didn't.
And then you look at Josh and you go, okay, yeah,
I see it. This is why he's the MVP of
the lead and I respect that.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I want that as much for us as our leader.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yes, I do too, I thought the U but there
was I think Danny said, what was a point nine?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Who could? By the way, like on the flip side Baltimore,
somebody tweeted out all the leads on the scoreboard, like
you know they see the score bugs. They showed they
clipped all the score bugs in the hardball era of
how many times the Ravens have had a lead that
was considered insurmountable and blew it every time. And then

(40:58):
somebody responds and goes, yeah, they weren't for a blackout
in New Orleans. They may have lost the Super Bowl too.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Wow, I forgot about that. Yeah, I did forget.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Yeah, they were up thirty three to nine or something
and the Niners came back and almost won the football.
Maybe it was because of the blackout, But like the
Chargers in the Ravens are notorious for blowing leads. Double
digit leads, not just like three point ly anybody could
lose a one score game, but double digit leads in
the second half. It's like they were calling for Harbaugh's
head this past week in Baltimore. Really yeah, because it's

(41:31):
the thirtieth anniversary of the Ravens, which they played against
the Browns today. I mean, talk about a slap of
the face. It was, you know, but yeah, people, yeah,
I mean, if he doesn't have a Super Bowl under
his belt, then he may have been gone.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Fact.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, when they drafted Lamar Jackson, so they got a
lot of craft for training back into the first round
and drafting Lamar Jackson because that was their second first
round pick that year, the same year in twenty eighteen
that the Bills took Allen and all the other court
Baker went first, all that stuff, and Lamar Jackson as
a rookie saved that season. Flacco was not playing well
at all, and there was talk of Harball getting canned.

(42:08):
And then, because you gotta remember the year before they
choked against Cincinnati to get the Bills in the playoffs,
It goes back then Harball was was on the was
on the tight rope and then Lamar Jackson plays all
World as a rookie. The next year he wins the
m v P and all of a sudden, all is
well in Baltimore and he's been living off.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
He's one of the longest.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Coaches actively right now.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah, yeah, he is, he is.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
He may be.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Nick Dermot's not far behind him.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I think Andy Reids.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
The longestest with Kansas City.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Yeah, okay, Harwall came in not to not too long
after that, but but yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy
when you think about.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
It, anything that you've seen with the Bills. Danny takes
notes during the game, writing things. I mean, and that's
concerning to you because I'll tell you this. I thought
the guys who came in next man up were pretty good.
Yeah right, I mean, especially on the defense to.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
First of all, like, I'm glad that it sounded like
the Bills responded to McDermott this week. Mcderm he had
him practicing and pads this week on Wednesday, like heavy pads.
In other words, like we're gonna go at it. And
he he sounded feisty during the press conferences. Not only
they don't pay much attention to what said in press conferences.
Mcderm's press conferences are long and he says nothing. But
apparently his tone this week was very, very like, we

(43:22):
gotta get things done, we gotta work better, we gotta
be smarter. We should have probably he didn't say we
should have lost the game, but he alluded to the
fact that the defense was not up to snuff last week. Okay,
so that one. So they showed up. But I want,
I want. There's two things. One justin fields, okay, is
a media creation. At quarterback. He was awful today. He
had nothing, He's had nothing, he's never had anything in

(43:44):
the NFL, and yet he gets propped up. I don't
know why, but he's never been an NFL caliber starter. No,
he's just he's just not. He's he's not.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
And I think I was a bad system.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, ery Clem's gonna get his quarterback next year. It's
that this is gonna be the year where okay, this
is gonna be the the tryout year for everybody. Then
he's gonna get his guy in place and his offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
The way the season are now, he's gonna have a
top five pick, maybe top three.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Absolutely the other thing too, The Bills had a couple
of big plays that they just they just got momentum.
I mean they had You gotta remember that first drive
after the Jets went three, and on the first drive
the Bills had a third and nineteen and a roughing
the passer penalty. I mean like they were dead the
right roughing the passer penalty got the Bills in position,
and then Cook scored the touchdown, and then Bosa gets
the fumble, you know, and then it gets the Epodesta

(44:35):
recovered it. The Bill's gonna field goal off that, and
also the Jets just kind of like, yeah, we're done. Yeah,
We're done.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Not too uh By love listen to series because he
can go to the Jets call.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah, is a Yankee fan. I always listened to the opponent.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, a lot of times.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I know what the Yanks people are gonna say it.
I always listened to the opponents. The opponent's call is
always more interesting because you learn about the other team.
You know, guys, all.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Right, right, Uh, Kevin is into a little bit of
gambling and stuff. What do you think for Thursday night?
Who you're betting? What's your parlay? Not betting? Is it.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
What's the spread and just said he's not betting.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
I don't think that's bulls.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
Got change after bullshit after today? Yeah, I'm saying bullshit too. Well,
they may not.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
But I'm not.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Let me pull it up for you.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
We'll be on the road, so I don't know if
it's gonna have much time to bet.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Where are you going?

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I got to turn it up in Detroit this weekend.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, Detroit.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Our first game Fridays at eleven in the morning, so
we're gonna leave Thursday.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
So that what what league is this?

Speaker 4 (45:45):
So I'm in like four different leagues, so I really
don't like, I don't know which league is which.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
God damn, your dad loves you.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
I was just gonna say, I mean, that's that's.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
That's It's all the same team, just different leagues.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Oh, I got you. I got It's nine and a
half right now.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Well, Craig was right. I thought it would be six
and a half.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
I said between nine and a half and eleven and
a half.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Wow, it might go as high as eleven and eight
when you go that high.

Speaker 3 (46:09):
So yeah, yeah, Dolphins Bills, Bills nine and a half
and then uh, the New England game Patriots stillers. Want
to take a guess, Patriots Steeteelers at New England.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Steelers at New England.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Gets it a point, a point and a half depending
on where you're looking. Really, it's a push Patriots are getting. Yeah.
So so basically the Steelers your favorite, but it's in Foxborough.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, so you get three points automatically. Yeah, the uh
so you get out of school for this?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah? So actually I don't even have school Friday anyways,
so I'm not really missing anything Friday.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
But what Catholic holidays on Friday? The hell is this?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I never I don't think they do. You don't do
one hundred and eighty days? Do you like? Do they
have to? I don't think that. Yeah, yeah, whatever it is.
And believe me, I mean there's a ton of work
at these plays. I get that, but I remember I
didn't know. Oh my god. Yeah.

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Speaker 4 (48:29):
Well, I have to go into school late anyways. Thursday too,
I got my road test.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Oh look at this everybody. Everybody welcome, Genesee River, be wary.
Funny well I took to myself. Yeah, well I took.
I took two tests. Two so funny story.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
I was in church two weeks ago and our pastor
is talking about how he's at line. He's in line
for lunch somewhere, and he sees a couple of hockey
dads and hockey players and on their phones they're going
over the game. Hey what happened in that goal?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
He's like they're like ribbing their kids and they're like
f bom. And I'm like, was that Kevin? And he's like,
why aren't these kids in school? Why are they out
for hockey? Or you kidding me? It's September, that's all right.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So you feeling confident second time going in? Yeah, what
do you know? What? What they took failed you on
the last time? So how do you know, did you Well?

Speaker 4 (49:32):
I was more worried about going over the speed limit
because if if you're going thirty six and the thirty
five is an automatic fail. So I was going like
thirty three. They marked me off on that, Like my
k turns were fine, my parallel park was fine. I
was just a little too far from the curve.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
But okay, all right, But they didn't. They didn't take it.
They take points off for that.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
I'm not sure if they did or No, I'm pretty
sure they did. Yeah, Okay, here I go.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
He's got it right here, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Man, I failed mine first time, and Will when Will
took his, he failed his first time. I think Luke
failed his too, But.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
How many times fell his road?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Uh? Yeah? Parking back up and you turn successive space
for parking too far from curb, five points off, driving
in traffic, improper lane of traffic.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
So ne were just throw me under the bus?

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Here were you in?

Speaker 4 (50:27):
No? I did not.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
He was in the.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
Coming lane, passing over the double lines, too slow, impeds
traffic flow.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
That's fifteen points for going like a little bit under
the speed limit. But they fail you automatically if you
go over. Oh yeah, yeah, it's just too much in
your head. You know what I mean, that's too much
in your head.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
But my mom told me so. I took a lesson
a few days before my test.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
The lady that I took my lesson with told him.
I'm at one hundred and forty six people took their
road test the same day I did. Then only six
people pass.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I believe that.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
I mean, so that means that the that means the instructor,
the whoever was approving was the son of a bit.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
They don't tell you at the at the moment, you
have to wait.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
So bottom line is this what so what you need
to do? And I'm surprised your dad hasn't done this
for you yet. But are you a Triple A member? Okay,
so you take the Triple A driving course and then
the Triple A driving Course instructor will take you through
the test. Oh and then the Triple A after you

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do that with them, and they'll tell you what you
need to do. And if they think that you're ready
to take the test. They will drive you to the test,
not your parents, and then they always get into a.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Little less pressure and they get into the car.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Well, no, the instructor, that the judge of the New
York State Driving Instructor, as I understand it, will then
know who these people are because they're part of the
triple A system, and they give the thumbs up, they
give the thumbs down, and as long as you're within
the range of it, you pass. If you're not, then
you don't pass.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
No, that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
That gets you in jail.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
There's always an angle. I think there's.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Now you guys told me one of my partners told
me that story from the West Side. Oh look at this,
it's one of my West Side partners.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
Oh okay, the uh if kids driving at fourteen, most most.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Adults, if they took the driver's test fail would fail. Yeah, yeah,
which is terrible.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
I could I could roll the stops. So we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Yeah, I mean, it almost makes you want to go back.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
So if it doesn't work yourself on Thursday, you let
me know and we'll make sure we get you.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
Ask my dad how much he's taught me to drive
in the last six months I've had my permit as
he's been busy. Every time I drive with my mom
and my grandma, everything I.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Haven't Yeah, and believe me, there's been a lot going on.
I know you're aware of it. There's a lot. But
what did you say, do mom take you out? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I drive my mom's car mostly, and then if I'm
with my grandma drive.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Either one of them grab this like my mother used
to grip my door or she would you would hear
these sounds or her arm would shoot out. It was
like the worst. My father would put the seatback and go,
all right, I'm gonna go to sleep. Oh my god,
lean back and he closed his eyes and he would drive.
But it felt like less pressure, you know, when he

(53:24):
got somebody who's heavy breathing next to you, gripping this,
you know, the oace ship bar or the whatever. I
hate that.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Luke would say he hated me with driving with me
just because of the level of intense.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
There's no there's no off switch.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
My mom actually told me, or she was like talking
about me driving, She's like, well, when I was driving
with Sam, like my head would be up. I would
be like holding the uh, the handle up. I'd be
squeezing the door handle and She's like, when I'm driving
with Tyler, like I can like I can actually look
at my phone like she was like, she's more scared
to drive with Sam than she has with me.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Okay, well, which is and it took Sam how many times?

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I think three or three or four?

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Maybe, so you got one more?

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Okay, you get them? Yeah, you get it, and then
you you have all Right, we will uh just a
brief podcast today, will we'll wrap it up, But Greg,
thank you for having us all over. It was a
blast as always. I think for the first time ever,
I just drank water here. I might have had a
long night last night. I don't know. Yeah, I again,

(54:30):
I mean Kevin too, Kevin had no.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Kevin long night there.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I thought I went into like some time warp zone
and something happened in the world that I missed, and
that's something had changed. I don't know. I know Kevin
is actually relatively nice today too. Everybody I know you
know that. I think I think there's some cataclysmic change
in the stars or the atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
It's the it's the number of days we've had without
rain and beautiful weather, right, it was a little cloudy
this morning.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Now it's I've mowed my lawn one time in the
last two months. One time.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
It's just.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
There's nothing to you.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Didn't okay, I didn't even once in the last month.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
All right, Well, we all love Buffalo in the Thursday
night game. That'll be an exciting one.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Can't wait.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
By the way, our buddy Juice he had his uh,
his son over the weekend. Four Fields, that's his name.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Four Fields.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Congratulations.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
So he'll be back to fake games this week.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Okay, that's great for Greg Connors, Dan Burrilla, Tyler Muir.
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow, Bill Bills.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
They were looking brow with Tennessee