November 12, 2025 • 38 mins
Bill welcomes Dan back into the studio after a wild week—on the field, on Netflix, and in real life. The guys kick things off with a teaser of what’s ahead for Buffalo Bills fans after last Sunday’s shocking loss to the Miami Dolphins. Emotions are high, and the future suddenly feels uncertain.
Bill then shifts gears into something he’s been very excited about: the brand-new Eddie Murphy Netflix documentary “Being Eddie.” Hours before it drops, Bill plays a bit of the trailer and dives into the surprising reveal about Eddie’s long-held frustration—not with David Spade’s infamous 1995 “falling star” joke, but with Saturday Night Live itself. Bill admits he always thought Eddie’s reaction seemed dramatic… until learning Eddie wasn’t mad at Spade at all, but angry that SNL as an institution let that joke sail through layers of approval aimed at one of its biggest alumni.
That sparks a bigger conversation about how people handle drama, crisis, and confrontation. Bill opens up about the things he’s learning about himself, why double-speak drives him crazy, and why salespeople—he says—are the champions of making problems look like your fault. According to Bill, avoiding conflict is the weakest move of all.
Juice joins the show, aching joints and all, and reveals he had a rough week of NFL picks—though who didn’t, given the league was flipped upside down? As Week 11 of the 2025 NFL season arrives, Juice delivers his “Lock of the Week” and the crew breaks down several key matchups. They also dive into the stunning firing of former Bills offensive coordinator and now ex-Giants head coach Brian Daboll. Dan and Juice discuss who might take the reins next… right after Juice confronts Dan about something he overheard in the green room involving a certain Eddie Murphy ex-girlfriend.
Later, Peter Montemurno jumps in to dissect the Buffalo Bills’ loss to the Dolphins. From sloppy mistakes to glaring weaknesses at wide receiver, Peter wonders if the Bills are on track to miss the playoffs altogether. Dan reveals he rewatched the game—much to Bill’s confusion—and the guys break down what to expect this week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and how the rest of the season could unfold.
It’s passionate football analysis, classic Bill sarcasm, insider stories, and plenty of laughs.
Enjoy the ride.
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Bill then shifts gears into something he’s been very excited about: the brand-new Eddie Murphy Netflix documentary “Being Eddie.” Hours before it drops, Bill plays a bit of the trailer and dives into the surprising reveal about Eddie’s long-held frustration—not with David Spade’s infamous 1995 “falling star” joke, but with Saturday Night Live itself. Bill admits he always thought Eddie’s reaction seemed dramatic… until learning Eddie wasn’t mad at Spade at all, but angry that SNL as an institution let that joke sail through layers of approval aimed at one of its biggest alumni.
That sparks a bigger conversation about how people handle drama, crisis, and confrontation. Bill opens up about the things he’s learning about himself, why double-speak drives him crazy, and why salespeople—he says—are the champions of making problems look like your fault. According to Bill, avoiding conflict is the weakest move of all.
Juice joins the show, aching joints and all, and reveals he had a rough week of NFL picks—though who didn’t, given the league was flipped upside down? As Week 11 of the 2025 NFL season arrives, Juice delivers his “Lock of the Week” and the crew breaks down several key matchups. They also dive into the stunning firing of former Bills offensive coordinator and now ex-Giants head coach Brian Daboll. Dan and Juice discuss who might take the reins next… right after Juice confronts Dan about something he overheard in the green room involving a certain Eddie Murphy ex-girlfriend.
Later, Peter Montemurno jumps in to dissect the Buffalo Bills’ loss to the Dolphins. From sloppy mistakes to glaring weaknesses at wide receiver, Peter wonders if the Bills are on track to miss the playoffs altogether. Dan reveals he rewatched the game—much to Bill’s confusion—and the guys break down what to expect this week against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and how the rest of the season could unfold.
It’s passionate football analysis, classic Bill sarcasm, insider stories, and plenty of laughs.
Enjoy the ride.
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Call it a podcast from the
Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by
Victor Chrysler Dods Jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome. Thank you forgetting your pun on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. Danny's been a while. I know, Hei, Gosh,
you're there and here. I can't see you. No, I
don't know what you do. I can't see you. I
can't see the Buffalo bills anymore. I can't see them.
(00:51):
We'll get into all that stuff because I know that
you've been chopping at the bit. We didn't get to
do the Kansas City game uh last week, which I'm
sure you had some serious thoughts about how bad they
sucked in that game. And we'll uh we'll hear all
that coming up with you and Peter and Juice will
be get on to tell us, uh what picks to
pick for? Uh? What are we week eleven? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, Juice had a rough week last week. He sent
me his picks. Wow, and I bet some money. Oh No,
I lost like before one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, it was a bad it was a weird, it
was bad. It was a weekend. Yes, it was very strange,
bad football weekend, very strange, a lot of bad football,
particularly in Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I am very excited about Uh. I like this, and
I'm gonna have to really discipline myself and try to
wait for the weekend or maybe Friday evening.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well that's what the adderall is for.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
To watch it well, to watch Uh. Sometimes I just go,
I break right through serious animal comes. I'm like, you've
already already. I can break through y adderall. Yeah, I've
had a up at a lot so yeah. Well, like honestly, uh,
(02:08):
today I had a lot of stuff to do and
I did not sleep well last night at all, Like
I was. I could not fall asleep. I don't think
I fell asleep till three, and then my alarm went
off at six thirty and I got up and I've
been powered through ever since.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
If you want to fall asleep, close your eyes and
then just dart your eyes back. And yeah, that was
as hard as you can, as long as you can.
It wasn't working for me, yester, did you try it?
Did you really try that the first time you're hearing this?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now, I had heard this before, because one I think
you've mentioned it, okay, and I think I had Usually
I try to read or something like that. I just
had a There's a lot that's happening that I'm waiting
a little bit of time to talk about. But uh so,
there's been.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Tried doing homework that always puts me to sleep when
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, I did not. And I have a lot right
because now I'm coming up on crunch time.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, finals coming up?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, finals, projects to just a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I had a woman tell me today that she's leaving
sales for three hundred thousand dollars a year job to
go into mental health counseling.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Really.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, she think she's burned out from sales. She's been
doing it for thirty years. Yeah, and she's been taking
classes without her employer knowing, and that she is now
going into mental health counseling.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah. I can see that. I mean, I think that
you start to see the benefit of it. It can
be rough. I can tell you that it can be
a rough journey for yourself. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh yeah, rough?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Journey for your because.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You're discovering things about you as you're learning about everyone else.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You're discovering things about I'd be a wreck. No, not
by OCD, not because I got that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did an assessment. So you had to do a
personality assessment and there was like three hundred and sixty
five questions or something on there. And these tests are
really really incredible because they even have a section where
you're answering questions. You don't know this at the time,
but it's like is this likely very likely? Unlike you
know whatever, and you have to mark it in and
(04:14):
a lot of it is to how accurately and honestly
you're answering these questions, and they're like, what's that?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is each question of a point value?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, well, when you go back through and score it,
scoring is like it it took two classes to finish
the test and then and it so I think we
took an hour and a half and an hour and
a half another time, and then we did the scoring process.
But in this you come out and so other people
in my cohort are like, these young girls are going,
oh my god, I came out like schizophrenic, and they go,
(04:46):
what about what about you? And I said, I came
out really normal, like no elevated anything, except for in
the next level up from don't worry about this to hey,
you may be a little bit concerned, especially if you're
the upper end with anger. Not surprising, but this is
over a lifetime of stuff that we're talking about too, right,
(05:08):
and drinking, and so then what you have. You had
to go back and write a report on the test,
and you had to break down how it scored and
what this is and each section and what these things
mean and all that, and then do an analysis of
the results and come up with a diagnosis. Is there
(05:29):
a diagnosable anything here? You know, like people go, well,
they're schizophrenic. Schizophrenia has a real you gotta have. You
got to meet real criteria. Bipolar you got to meet
certain criteria. Yes, it's like a month long thing.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So especially with those new drug commercials coming out.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh there's different right, and like iipolar and one bipolar two,
and so people get all all twisted.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Too.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I found it to be. I felt great after that.
I was like yeah, and then and then said like
slightly elevated levels of stress. I go, yeah, this is
over a lifetime. I was married, I got molested. I mean,
what are you talking about it?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Er?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, no, no, that way I got molested, married and
molested again. God, anybody around Saint Patrick, say a couple
of years ago the second time, fucking unrad.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, Like when I used to go to the psychiatrist,
the drug doctor, not the psychologist. You got to like
take a score test first when you walk in, and
they'd look at your points and go, okay, I'm gonna
up this or down this or whatever, right, and a
lot of it twenty sometimes I'd be in the fives.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, the tough part with that is any given day
you're gonna feel differently. Oh yeah, And so you're trying
to look for something that's going to be sustained accuracy,
So you know, is it what's the validity of these tests?
And a lot of times they have you retake it
two weeks later to see do you score within at
(06:57):
least five point range of each other and consistently?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they want to establish a baseline. Right,
So listen, it's a mental health counsel. You you have
to figure out yourself first before you can help anybody else.
Is that part of the process.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, I don't know. I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know if that maybe, I mean it's probably good.
Here's what I would say. You want to be aware
of your blind spots, your prejudices, your biases, favor it
is that you kind of just know, like, hey, I'm
not great with this because I think it's overreaction and
people are a little bit of whiny or whatever. So
that's not my field, depending on what that is. But
(07:33):
it is interesting because what I'm starting to say is
I'm very excited because tonight the Eddie Murphy documentary drops
on Netflix. Oh I've been waiting and waiting for this.
Just just to give you a little taste, I've done
so many different types of things. Good morning, my neighbor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You had that appointment, your destiny.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He changed the way we I remember that scene. Yes
you too, Shrick, Shrick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean it just looks great. It's called being Eddie,
and I think of like people in that line of work,
it's very hard to maintain a career. We see the
guys with the longevity, the Harrison Ford's right, the guys
that kind of made it and stayed but for comedy,
especially you know, the vehicle can run out, stick becomes old.
(08:30):
There's all this stuff. And Eddie Murphy didn't remember when
we sent my grandmother to see Norbit. Yeah, and she
reviewed it for us on the break room. Yeah, the
late Agnes Dolan. But I was really interested in this
and one of the big things, like I think the
Post had a big article today going Eddie Murphy was
so upset over David Spade's joke. I think it was
(08:54):
nineteen ninety five when he was doing Spade in America.
And here's a little bit of that. If you don't
remember around.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Ladies and gentlemen stay in America with say.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Alright, good crowd, thanks for staying up. Okay, Well, I
got a fan letter here from Indiana and I like
to read it to you. It says, dear David, why
are you such an idiot? Every time I see you,
I want to punch you in the face. Sincerely, Danny Minton. Ps,
(09:33):
why don't you ever do Hollywood minute anymore?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Look?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Children, it's a falling star. Make a wish it was.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Eddie Murphy did that Vampires in Brooklyn movie, Yes, And
it had horrible reviews, and so he said he put
up a picture of that. He goes, hey, look, children,
uh a former SNL cast member.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, and the first cast member I believe to host
the show, which I'm sure went over real well with
the rest of the cast.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, here's the thing that's so strange. It is because
I always thought, like, well, Eddie got his feelings hurt,
and what a whiner, and why not just talk about that?
And I guess he does in this documentary. And what
he says is if there was a joke now about
a former SNL cast member about how fucked up their
career was, it would get shot down. Oh that's what
(10:20):
he's saying. And he goes, it went through all those
channels that a joke has to go through, and then
it was on the air. He's like, no one stopped it.
So he said, I wasn't like fuck David Spade. I
was like fuck SNL, you know. And he said, that's
why that's what you all think of me. Well, you're
dirty motherfuckers, and that's why I didn't go back for years.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Lord Michael's allowed it. He stops with him.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, I mean it's a funny joke. It is because
you've got I mean, I get it. You're you're trying
to come up with the comedy on the spot. It's
a little bit shocking, any of these shocking that you
would roast one of your own.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
At the same time, though you are a comic.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
This is what you do.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
If you could dish it out, you should be able
to take it too.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I like we had that rule of the breakroom. Man,
if you can't laugh at yourself, then don't make fun
of anybody else.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right, But when you were one of the guys that
made the show what it had become, like really carried
it through after the original cast.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and really it was the second generation.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and he was young. I think he was nineteen
when he joined the cast of 'sn L. I mean
that that's a baby.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Remember when you were nineteen what we were doing it
night Gosh, I was in college. Okay, I was an idiot. Yeah,
I was in college. I got on the radio and
I was doing that. I don't know. It's a funny
thing because one of the things that I'm finding, and
maybe it's something even in yourself as you sort of
do self exploration, is I have a real problem with
(11:44):
weak people and I think that a lot of people
who have had trauma in their lives, and trauma could
be at any level. But there are things that would
be traumatic to somebody and maybe not to somebody else.
So you can't really say, well, that's not trauma. Maybe
it is.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know, depends on who you are.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So I would say though a lot of those people
do the classic avoidance of things, so when situations get sticky,
they try to just kind of avoid having to talk
about it, let it just die out and move on.
I certainly was somebody like that, but now at this
point in my life, I go, that is such a weak,
weak way to be as a human being. And I
(12:25):
think that there are so many and I've experienced it
with so many different people. When I look back, I go,
oh my god, a lot of it in you know,
relationships and things because people don't know how to communicate,
or they're afraid of what the reaction was. Putting the
reaction that they got in the past on the present
doesn't mean it's going to happen, right, And that's where
(12:46):
you got to go that stuff is bullshit. But there
is something where I think at one point you have
to be like genuinely honest with somebody. And there's a
lot of salespeople in the world, wonderful salespeople, but salespeople
are salespeople. And I will argue to the day I
(13:06):
leave this planet that they can't turn it off. They're
always selling you a line of complete and utter horseshit.
I really do. I think people who are great at sales,
they just they're selling in their lives all the time.
We all are to a certain extent. I mean, it
is it's all about sales. But the ones that do
it and and and can make a lot of money
at it, they're real slick, and they have a way
(13:29):
of manipulating in words and twists and stuff and I
and when you step back from that, you go, man,
that is such a fucked up human being. Own it.
Make a fucking opinion. Here's what I'm starting to realize.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
There used to be where people will go professional politicians.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Uh maybe, but I think that but most of it
is I'm not sure about that with the.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like voting politicians. But just in general, what.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think for a lot of people is they don't
know who they are.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I think that's off the top of my head
right now.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think that's a tough thing. I think when people
don't know who they are, they wishy washy, they're over here.
They can't really make a decision. They know that this
doesn't feel right, they don't know how to confront it.
They're not sure how to have a conversation, so they
kind of just dance and it and and you look
at that. I look at that now and I go ooh,
(14:25):
I have done that. And that's weak.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
We've all done it.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
That is really, really really weak. That says so much
about somebody. And especially then when you get someone who's
in sales who's gonna try to be real quick on
their it's like, whoa, you're a I see what this is.
It's smoking mirrors. You're full of shit. Yeah, you don't
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some picks. Juice, not the guy who had rough week
your giants. I don't know, I mean Jackson.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
I told you, I told you, I told you it
was coming. You know, there was there was no way
he was going to last uh next year. So they
just they cut the cord now and just said why
even bother hanging around?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And it's over for four double digit four, double digit
fourth quarter. Deficits that they gave up four double digit
leads and they gave up in the fourth quarter this year.
The odds of that happening to one team is one
in sixty thousand.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I heard that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Just.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I mean, the Giants in theory could be five and
five if they if those games didn't go the way
they did.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
And that's why Daviel is no longer with us.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Do you uh Jackson dark concussion?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, out And that's part of the reason too.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Dave's was just he was reckless with him.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
He was encouraging him to take on and with the Giants,
brass Is saying, they're telling Jackson to tone it down
a little bit, like, don't take these guys on head on.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
When you're running.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Running's fine, but you got a slide more and he
like refused to slide. He wants to like go, you know,
take on these middle linebackers. And that's why he's gonna
next missed the next game and maybe after that.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
They had the blue tent the entire state of New
Jersey to keep him off the field.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Oh, and then what came in. Russ came in and
he is just fucking horrible. He is so bad, so washed,
he should never step on a football field again, unless
it's too volunteer to mow the grass at his hest
at his kids high school football field.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It's very rare that a national pundit who's not known
for like taking shots takes shots at a player. Scott
fan Pelt, who may be one of the nicest guys
in sports media, tweets out, mister limited.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Ah, that's funny because they don't like Russ.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, Russ is like as a phony when the cameras
are the guy's a phony and it's coming back to roost. Mean, well,
there's James and Jameis Winston holding court in New Jersey
today talking about I think he's gonna start a.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yes, they announced that Mike Mike Kafkar already announced that
Jamis is starting, which he's already making the right decisions
right right off the bat, which is awesome. I mean,
it just gives us some hope, some fun. It's gonna
be fun having him out there slinging. He'll throw four
touchdowns and three interceptions, but god damn, he'll make it fun.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You'll have a chance to win though.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, I's the Giants Packers, which was a Packers game
was a snooze fan.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't think Jordan Love is as good as everybody
says either. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I never did.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I just never really did. Uh, Juice, who do you
like in some of these games? I mean, last week
there was some surprising blowouts along the way, and.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
We got we got smacked. I hit.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I know, we didn't do the picks out here, which
I'm thankful for and nobody else.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Didn't cost anybody else money.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
But I text Dan privately and told them what we
were playing, and we lost every single one.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
We got absolutely whack.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
All right, you're not I can't win all of them,
and that's part of the Actually, it.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Took ten weeks to have our first losing week, so
I'm okay with that. And we went ten nine weeks,
you know, in the in the black, and now we
finally go red. So that's all right, no problem. But
as I tell my friends, we're beat but not beaten.
We're going to be back this week.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, give me a We'll start with the Bucks and
the Bills only because here's what's interesting about this. You've
got two quarterbacks drafted in twenty eighteen who have taken
very different journeys in the NFL. Josh Allen has been
only in Buffalo. Hopefully he'll stay only in Buffalo. You
(20:24):
have Baker Mayfield who went Cleveland and then from Cleveland
to the Panthers, from the Panthers to the Rams, from
the Rams to the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Right, I think that's the trajectory.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's like four teams in eight years. So it seems
like a lot and he seems to have found a
landing spot. I'm not so sure I'm sold on Baker
Mayfield being an elite quarterback. He seems like a lot
of times he has to hop up as he's throwing
the ball to get it over the line. I don't
(20:54):
know why. And he's not that little. It's just that
he's six foot yeah, well that's five inches yeah, and
uh but how do you but yet he has a
will to win. There is a tenacity about this guy.
I mean, you feel like you have him on your side,
You've always got a shot in the game. So I'm
not I'm not feeling great about this, to be quite honest,
(21:16):
with the Bucks and the Bills.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
No, I think what's gonna help the Bills. Unfortunately, is
the loss. I don't see them losing two in a row.
So Allen's gonna be hungry and they're gonna get this
win on uh on Sunday. I just don't see them
losing again. The weather is gonna be shitty, it's gonna
be rainy. Uh So the Bills have got to run now. Also, unfortunately,
Tampa's run defense is pretty good, so the Bills are
gonna have to They're gonna have to grind this out.
(21:40):
But overall, I think with the weather conditions, I think
it's favors to Buffalo, and then I think the Buffalo
will get the win.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And what is it?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
I think five and a half. So I'm probably not
staying away from that, or I am staying away from that.
I look to maybe take the Bills live, you know,
get it, maybe under a field goal or something.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But I don't.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I don't like the I don't like five and a
half points, all right, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, No, if I'm taking Tampa Bay in this one,
to cover, yes, to cover, Okay, They're definitely not beating
Houston the week after. I'm telling you that right now, Buffalo.
But that's another story.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
From well maybe I mean who knows they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Going to Houston beating Houston on three days. No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Uh, Chiefs Broncos.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Chiefs really Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
D and Reid go ahead off of bye huge the
Broncos last Thursday against the Raiders. That was another snooze
fest they were that was so bad they barely won
that game. That game was fucking horrible. I think the
Chiefs come in there.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And get right.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
They're they're gonna they're gonna smack them around. I'm Chiefs
minus four b. That's our first that's our first play
the week.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Usually quarterbacks take a step forward to their sophomore year. Yeah,
he's actually like the regress his request. He does not
look good. His decision making is it's like he's playing scared,
like he doesn't want to tick off Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, well yeah, Champ Payton night. I have not heard
nice things about cham Payton in his personal life.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I think I think the Chiefs know that that division
is you know that in reach for them.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Uh, they haven't.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Played the Broncos yet, so they're gonna knock them off
twice and get in. I think the Chargers are on
the decline with their offensive line. So I still think
the Chiefs went that division, and I think that run
that they start starts on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right, Uh, Danny says the Texans are good. Give
me something. They're good.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I say they're gonna beat the Bills because it's a
Thursday night game. I didn't say they're good. They they
shot their load like last week coming back against Jay.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Goodness. Uh, Texans, give me some locks of the week.
What do you got game?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Speaking of Houston, we're gonna take them minus seven against
the Tennessee Titans. Now the player is the league's best
defense versus the league's worst offense, and I'm gonna go
defense every time.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Yes, David Mills is starting. C J.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Stroud is out, which you know gives me a little
bit of pause. But I still don't see Tennessee doing
anything in this game, and I think that Houston will
do enough to cover. I mean, even if it's ten
three or seventeen seven or something, it's gonna be low scoring,
it's gonna be ugly, but Houston will win by seven
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or more points.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, all right, I like that. You know, what's another one?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
He got another big game, which is actually potentially game
of the game of the year.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
So far.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
You got the Rams versus the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Awesome game, Yes as well, Rams great.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Seattle is the sneakiest best team in the NFL, and
the times are very close.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, but I got to remember who Seattle has at quarterback,
and that's Sam Darnold and he has not really won
a big game yet. This is a big game for him,
and I just I've taken the Rams minus three in
this all day. I just think, uh, well, he hasn't
really had that game yet, and I think we're going
to see that Sunday.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, that game at the end of the season last
year when Minnesota went to Detroit on a Sunday night, right,
and that was Sam Donold's like make or break game.
If he wins that game, he's probably still the quarterback
of the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, but he loses, Like I already out.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
With the injured kid McCarthy. So now so he's in
Seattle and uh yeah, he's all world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They are looking good. I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I
think they did they have how many points in the
first quarter.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Like twenty eight? Yes, I thought it was had two
defensive touchdowns trip Sacks. I thought it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's like I see it come across by phone. I'm
not even turning it not I don't want to see that.
But the Rams look so good the other night, and
that was a battle between the forty nine ers and
the Rams. But the Rams look look good. And man,
who would have thought Stafford all those years in Detroit
you looked at him and went yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And I mean he is right now if you look,
he's the VP odds favorite Matt Stafford is. So this
is a huge game for him and it's this could
put him if he wins this game. I think he's
exactly at five hundred for his career wins and losses,
and this game will put him over five hundred. Wow, Sunday,
because he was on so many you wouldn't think that,
but he was on so many.
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Speaker 2 (28:39):
Very good. I like it. I like it, Uh, Peter,
I I I can't wait to hear the thoughts of
the Buffalo Bills. I thought the offense looked inept. I
thought Josh Allen probably had one of his worst games ever.
But at some points you go the receiving court, nobody's
(29:02):
getting separation, and there's there is your problem. Josh pulled out.
I mean that one play he went around and around
and you're it's so exciting and any connects right, And
who's the best receiver they have, Dalton Kincaid right now,
I think it is. And then afterwards and maybe I'm
(29:23):
jumping the gun here, but then it didn't come out afterwards.
I happened to be in the studio here and then
going to watch just the first half of the game
while I drank ginger all I just want you to know,
oh yeah, oh yeah, uh huh. I know it's a
whole new me I'm watching. And it's the local CBS
(29:44):
affiliate does a regional bills thing before CBS NFL today, Right,
So they're talking, and they're talking very very enthusiastically that
Brandon Bean had seemed to go all in on trying
to get that receiver that we need, the missing piece
(30:05):
that was the thing, and he seemed to go all in,
and you know Bill's mafia, we want you. He hears you.
He know they know they're thinking the same thing you're thinking.
They really wanted it, and it was who was a
Jaden Waddle Jayden Wattle. So they thought this was all
going to go down and you're hearing about it, and
then Waddle seems to scorch them a few times on
(30:26):
the field. But from what I'm understanding, and this is
where people started going, well, then this guy needs to
be fired. Brandon Bean, they wanted a twenty twenty six
first round draft pick and he said, no, I'll give
you twenty twenty seven. I don't know if that's true. Again,
I always say to people, I go, I wasn't in
the meeting. I don't know who knows, like somebody could be.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's thank you, thank you, right, But so it gets
out there, so now everybody's like, well, you're just wasting
Josh Allen. And if this is true, why wouldn't you
try to win? Right now? You're off to a pretty
decent start at six and two, and here we go.
I don't know what. I'm sure both you and Danny
have maybe seen more read more dug a little deeper
(31:12):
into that story. I'm not sure I.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Haven't dug a little deeper into that if I can
rewind for a second. Sure I watched Somebody All twenty two,
not all that because it's two frustrated, but I will
tell you that Josh Allen made some pretty big errors.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Oh yeah, yeah on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yeah, was wide open and he just overthrew him or
he underthrew them.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
It was a sideline route with a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Now, granted it was like Miami's fourth string cornerback, but
he was still open. There was another play where Dawson
Knox still open. Nothing in Josh Josh Allen's sideline at all.
Knox was wide open. He was the first progression in
the route. Yet he checks down to the fourth progression
and so Johnson I think it was Johnson Johnson. Uh no, yeah, no,
(32:06):
not Ty Johnson, the other one. Yeah, even whoever was
still got fifteen yards on the play. But the question is,
why wouldn't you throw your first progression that would have
given you fifteen yards in the air, not five yards
in ten yards after catch.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm not in
the film, not in their helmet.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
But gracious, there's some things that are going on right
now where no one knows, no one knows which way
is up, and it's it's really, it's really concerning. Throwing
into Tampa Bay game coming on the heuge of the
great Kansas City outing, right, they looked like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, I thought the Kansas City outing looked really good.
I got nervous at the end of the game. Uh,
but because of Kansas City. But I thought they overall
looked pretty good. I did say to Danny before. I know,
I'm sure you thought they had some awful moments in
that game, but I don't know. I thought they looked
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well they did, yeah, but they also today all the
way three times and only won by a touchdown at
the end of that one. I mean, so it's like
Kansas City, like on autopilot, could give the Bills at
their best game, right, and then the Bills, Oh yeah,
so we just beat the Chiefs so we can put
it on cruise control against Miami, right, and then Alan
after the game that you know they wanted more than us,
(33:19):
well why, I mean, their general managers just got fired.
There were guys that were rumored to be traded. Other
guys did get traded. Your head coaches like, is the
walking dead right now? They call a time out before
the game even starts to dispute an off sides call,
and yeah, so they're starting the game with two timeouts
in the first half and they can't even they can't
(33:40):
even get it right.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Dissension based upon what. It's up for opinion, and it's
up for discussion. But in the press conference on the
back end of the game, when McDermott was asked, m
h your general manager said you have a championship roster?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Do you have a championship roster? Answer? I love these players.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Oh, when the head coach starts equivocating in a press conference,
that is not an answer.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
It I love these players, that's it, and that's it.
He stopped short. He did pontificate, he died to coach speak,
he stopped.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I love these players. End of answer.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
So there's something going on inside when Bill's drive that
is penetrating this team's enthusiasm, their drive. I said weeks
ago after the Panthers game, intentionally watching the sideline during
the game.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Forget about the game. It's forty to nine. Great.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
I wanted to see how they acted on the sideline,
and it gave me concern that and I even talked
about it here on billifid gave me concern that week.
There's no emotional leader, there's no one walking around the sideline.
Your head coach doesn't go up to the offensive side
of the bench. Ever, there's something that's going on within
that team right now. But I don't know if they
(35:04):
could find their way out of and everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
They'renna make the playoffs. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I think we're at Jima playoffs point. And I said
this three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
You did.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
We've been talking since everybody's we have been talking on
this show for weeks. We've been pointing out the deficiencies.
No one wants to listen until it happens.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Oh, there it is. It's been there all year.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, it really did. I mean it looked ugly.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It looked I watched the game again last night. It
was actually worse.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Why why I love it?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I got I gotta be prepared to come on the show.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No, I understand it, But you watched it. I mean
you knew how bad it was. Yeah, I'm sure you
read plenty of articles. I know you got a lot more.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
You pick up a lot more when there's and and
the second time you watch it in the middle of
it being a fan, and then you watch it the
second time you kind.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Of look built. They're predictable, they're unprepared. Yeah, like a
Dulton kk ran on in the field. Okay, we're gonna
run a pass play. Everyone knows it. When Dalton Kaka
trots off the field and they bring to Jackson Haws, Okay,
it's probably gonna be a run until they run that
stupid trick play. We're gonna roll about, throw it fake
and fake the fourth and one push push when the
(36:19):
drive before he.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Had a fourth and one to thirty four.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Okay, first they did do that.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I wish they did too. Okay, so now we're gonna
go for it and and they give it up. And
then Miami comes back down the field and scores, and
Cole Bishop, who was a hero on the previous drive,
all of a sudden gets a pushing out of pushing
the kid out of bound. So that's another fifteen yards
they get thirty yards on that plate. Next thing, you know,
the balls in the air, touchdown, and we make too
a look like a freaking hero because the defensive second,
(36:45):
the secondary is just so banged up and so injured
and so old.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, and and and even while I think mis Dawkins,
he said, yeah, well they came out in base defense.
If an NFL team that's two and seven comes out
there playing base defense with three linebackers and not a
nickel corner, they're saying, we're gonna stop your run. You
can't beat us in the passing game. That's what that
(37:12):
tells you, And that to me is alarming.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yes, I will tell you what we're what we're doing
with the podcast. All good stuff, all good stuff, all
good stuff. So I want to rattle any feathers. But
there will be uh more to come on all that
stuff we're looking forward to in the near future. I
love coming here, I love doing this.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Well, I appreciate you, Dan Brillo, and I love when
your head gets on. Just love it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I know my wife goes, you don't really get mad
over football, you just act like it to be funny.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't know. I think if you were actually in
that front office. I think there would be like that's
a good rule. I think you wouldn't sleep. I think
you wouldn't sleep. I think you'd be there. We'd find you,
like whether your fitbit going off at four am. O
for Dan Brillo, for Juice Fields, Juice Fields for Peter Montemerno.
(38:05):
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome. Thank you forgetting your pun on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the pirate ship. Danny's been a while. I know, Hei, Gosh,
you're there and here. I can't see you. No, I
don't know what you do. I can't see you. I
can't see the Buffalo bills anymore. I can't see them.
(00:51):
We'll get into all that stuff because I know that
you've been chopping at the bit. We didn't get to
do the Kansas City game uh last week, which I'm
sure you had some serious thoughts about how bad they
sucked in that game. And we'll uh we'll hear all
that coming up with you and Peter and Juice will
be get on to tell us, uh what picks to
pick for? Uh? What are we week eleven? Now?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, Juice had a rough week last week. He sent
me his picks. Wow, and I bet some money. Oh No,
I lost like before one o'clock.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Well, it was a bad it was a weird, it
was bad. It was a weekend. Yes, it was very strange,
bad football weekend, very strange, a lot of bad football,
particularly in Miami.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I am very excited about Uh. I like this, and
I'm gonna have to really discipline myself and try to
wait for the weekend or maybe Friday evening.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Well that's what the adderall is for.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
To watch it well, to watch Uh. Sometimes I just go,
I break right through serious animal comes. I'm like, you've
already already. I can break through y adderall. Yeah, I've
had a up at a lot so yeah. Well, like honestly, uh,
(02:08):
today I had a lot of stuff to do and
I did not sleep well last night at all, Like
I was. I could not fall asleep. I don't think
I fell asleep till three, and then my alarm went
off at six thirty and I got up and I've
been powered through ever since.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
If you want to fall asleep, close your eyes and
then just dart your eyes back. And yeah, that was
as hard as you can, as long as you can.
It wasn't working for me, yester, did you try it?
Did you really try that the first time you're hearing this?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Now, I had heard this before, because one I think
you've mentioned it, okay, and I think I had Usually
I try to read or something like that. I just
had a There's a lot that's happening that I'm waiting
a little bit of time to talk about. But uh so,
there's been.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Tried doing homework that always puts me to sleep when
I was a kid.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
No, I did not. And I have a lot right
because now I'm coming up on crunch time.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Oh yeah, yeah, finals coming up?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, finals, projects to just a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I had a woman tell me today that she's leaving
sales for three hundred thousand dollars a year job to
go into mental health counseling.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Really.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Yes, she think she's burned out from sales. She's been
doing it for thirty years. Yeah, and she's been taking
classes without her employer knowing, and that she is now
going into mental health counseling.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah. I can see that. I mean, I think that
you start to see the benefit of it. It can
be rough. I can tell you that it can be
a rough journey for yourself. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Oh yeah, rough?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Journey for your because.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
You're discovering things about you as you're learning about everyone else.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You're discovering things about I'd be a wreck. No, not
by OCD, not because I got that.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I got that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I did an assessment. So you had to do a
personality assessment and there was like three hundred and sixty
five questions or something on there. And these tests are
really really incredible because they even have a section where
you're answering questions. You don't know this at the time,
but it's like is this likely very likely? Unlike you
know whatever, and you have to mark it in and
(04:14):
a lot of it is to how accurately and honestly
you're answering these questions, and they're like, what's that?
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Is each question of a point value?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, well, when you go back through and score it,
scoring is like it it took two classes to finish
the test and then and it so I think we
took an hour and a half and an hour and
a half another time, and then we did the scoring process.
But in this you come out and so other people
in my cohort are like, these young girls are going,
oh my god, I came out like schizophrenic, and they go,
(04:46):
what about what about you? And I said, I came
out really normal, like no elevated anything, except for in
the next level up from don't worry about this to hey,
you may be a little bit concerned, especially if you're
the upper end with anger. Not surprising, but this is
over a lifetime of stuff that we're talking about too, right,
(05:08):
and drinking, and so then what you have. You had
to go back and write a report on the test,
and you had to break down how it scored and
what this is and each section and what these things
mean and all that, and then do an analysis of
the results and come up with a diagnosis. Is there
(05:29):
a diagnosable anything here? You know, like people go, well,
they're schizophrenic. Schizophrenia has a real you gotta have. You
got to meet real criteria. Bipolar you got to meet
certain criteria. Yes, it's like a month long thing.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So especially with those new drug commercials coming out.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Oh there's different right, and like iipolar and one bipolar two,
and so people get all all twisted.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Too.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So I found it to be. I felt great after that.
I was like yeah, and then and then said like
slightly elevated levels of stress. I go, yeah, this is
over a lifetime. I was married, I got molested. I mean,
what are you talking about it?
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Er?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
No, no, no, that way I got molested, married and
molested again. God, anybody around Saint Patrick, say a couple
of years ago the second time, fucking unrad.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
No, Like when I used to go to the psychiatrist,
the drug doctor, not the psychologist. You got to like
take a score test first when you walk in, and
they'd look at your points and go, okay, I'm gonna
up this or down this or whatever, right, and a
lot of it twenty sometimes I'd be in the fives.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, the tough part with that is any given day
you're gonna feel differently. Oh yeah, And so you're trying
to look for something that's going to be sustained accuracy,
So you know, is it what's the validity of these tests?
And a lot of times they have you retake it
two weeks later to see do you score within at
(06:57):
least five point range of each other and consistently?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, they want to establish a baseline. Right,
So listen, it's a mental health counsel. You you have
to figure out yourself first before you can help anybody else.
Is that part of the process.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Okay, I don't know. I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I don't know if that maybe, I mean it's probably good.
Here's what I would say. You want to be aware
of your blind spots, your prejudices, your biases, favor it
is that you kind of just know, like, hey, I'm
not great with this because I think it's overreaction and
people are a little bit of whiny or whatever. So
that's not my field, depending on what that is. But
(07:33):
it is interesting because what I'm starting to say is
I'm very excited because tonight the Eddie Murphy documentary drops
on Netflix. Oh I've been waiting and waiting for this.
Just just to give you a little taste, I've done
so many different types of things. Good morning, my neighbor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
You had that appointment, your destiny.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
He changed the way we I remember that scene. Yes
you too, Shrick, Shrick.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, I mean it just looks great. It's called being Eddie,
and I think of like people in that line of work,
it's very hard to maintain a career. We see the
guys with the longevity, the Harrison Ford's right, the guys
that kind of made it and stayed but for comedy,
especially you know, the vehicle can run out, stick becomes old.
(08:30):
There's all this stuff. And Eddie Murphy didn't remember when
we sent my grandmother to see Norbit. Yeah, and she
reviewed it for us on the break room. Yeah, the
late Agnes Dolan. But I was really interested in this
and one of the big things, like I think the
Post had a big article today going Eddie Murphy was
so upset over David Spade's joke. I think it was
(08:54):
nineteen ninety five when he was doing Spade in America.
And here's a little bit of that. If you don't
remember around.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Ladies and gentlemen stay in America with say.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Alright, good crowd, thanks for staying up. Okay, Well, I
got a fan letter here from Indiana and I like
to read it to you. It says, dear David, why
are you such an idiot? Every time I see you,
I want to punch you in the face. Sincerely, Danny Minton. Ps,
(09:33):
why don't you ever do Hollywood minute anymore?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Look?
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Children, it's a falling star. Make a wish it was.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Eddie Murphy did that Vampires in Brooklyn movie, Yes, And
it had horrible reviews, and so he said he put
up a picture of that. He goes, hey, look, children,
uh a former SNL cast member.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, and the first cast member I believe to host
the show, which I'm sure went over real well with
the rest of the cast.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, here's the thing that's so strange. It is because
I always thought, like, well, Eddie got his feelings hurt,
and what a whiner, and why not just talk about that?
And I guess he does in this documentary. And what
he says is if there was a joke now about
a former SNL cast member about how fucked up their
career was, it would get shot down. Oh that's what
(10:20):
he's saying. And he goes, it went through all those
channels that a joke has to go through, and then
it was on the air. He's like, no one stopped it.
So he said, I wasn't like fuck David Spade. I
was like fuck SNL, you know. And he said, that's
why that's what you all think of me. Well, you're
dirty motherfuckers, and that's why I didn't go back for years.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Lord Michael's allowed it. He stops with him.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, I mean it's a funny joke. It is because
you've got I mean, I get it. You're you're trying
to come up with the comedy on the spot. It's
a little bit shocking, any of these shocking that you
would roast one of your own.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
At the same time, though you are a comic.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
This is what you do.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
If you could dish it out, you should be able
to take it too.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I like we had that rule of the breakroom. Man,
if you can't laugh at yourself, then don't make fun
of anybody else.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Right, But when you were one of the guys that
made the show what it had become, like really carried
it through after the original cast.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and really it was the second generation.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, and he was young. I think he was nineteen
when he joined the cast of 'sn L. I mean
that that's a baby.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Remember when you were nineteen what we were doing it
night Gosh, I was in college. Okay, I was an idiot. Yeah,
I was in college. I got on the radio and
I was doing that. I don't know. It's a funny
thing because one of the things that I'm finding, and
maybe it's something even in yourself as you sort of
do self exploration, is I have a real problem with
(11:44):
weak people and I think that a lot of people
who have had trauma in their lives, and trauma could
be at any level. But there are things that would
be traumatic to somebody and maybe not to somebody else.
So you can't really say, well, that's not trauma. Maybe
it is.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I don't know, depends on who you are.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So I would say though a lot of those people
do the classic avoidance of things, so when situations get sticky,
they try to just kind of avoid having to talk
about it, let it just die out and move on.
I certainly was somebody like that, but now at this
point in my life, I go, that is such a weak,
weak way to be as a human being. And I
(12:25):
think that there are so many and I've experienced it
with so many different people. When I look back, I go,
oh my god, a lot of it in you know,
relationships and things because people don't know how to communicate,
or they're afraid of what the reaction was. Putting the
reaction that they got in the past on the present
doesn't mean it's going to happen, right, And that's where
(12:46):
you got to go that stuff is bullshit. But there
is something where I think at one point you have
to be like genuinely honest with somebody. And there's a
lot of salespeople in the world, wonderful salespeople, but salespeople
are salespeople. And I will argue to the day I
(13:06):
leave this planet that they can't turn it off. They're
always selling you a line of complete and utter horseshit.
I really do. I think people who are great at sales,
they just they're selling in their lives all the time.
We all are to a certain extent. I mean, it
is it's all about sales. But the ones that do
it and and and can make a lot of money
at it, they're real slick, and they have a way
(13:29):
of manipulating in words and twists and stuff and I
and when you step back from that, you go, man,
that is such a fucked up human being. Own it.
Make a fucking opinion. Here's what I'm starting to realize.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
There used to be where people will go professional politicians.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Uh maybe, but I think that but most of it
is I'm not sure about that with the.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Like voting politicians. But just in general, what.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I think for a lot of people is they don't
know who they are.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, I think that's off the top of my head
right now.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I think that's a tough thing. I think when people
don't know who they are, they wishy washy, they're over here.
They can't really make a decision. They know that this
doesn't feel right, they don't know how to confront it.
They're not sure how to have a conversation, so they
kind of just dance and it and and you look
at that. I look at that now and I go ooh,
(14:25):
I have done that. And that's weak.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
We've all done it.
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That is really, really really weak. That says so much
about somebody. And especially then when you get someone who's
in sales who's gonna try to be real quick on
their it's like, whoa, you're a I see what this is.
It's smoking mirrors. You're full of shit. Yeah, you don't
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some picks. Juice, not the guy who had rough week
your giants. I don't know, I mean Jackson.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
I told you, I told you, I told you it
was coming. You know, there was there was no way
he was going to last uh next year. So they
just they cut the cord now and just said why
even bother hanging around?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And it's over for four double digit four, double digit
fourth quarter. Deficits that they gave up four double digit
leads and they gave up in the fourth quarter this year.
The odds of that happening to one team is one
in sixty thousand.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I heard that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Just.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
I mean, the Giants in theory could be five and
five if they if those games didn't go the way
they did.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
And that's why Daviel is no longer with us.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Do you uh Jackson dark concussion?
Speaker 7 (17:36):
Yeah, yeah, out And that's part of the reason too.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Dave's was just he was reckless with him.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
He was encouraging him to take on and with the Giants,
brass Is saying, they're telling Jackson to tone it down
a little bit, like, don't take these guys on head on.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
When you're running.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Running's fine, but you got a slide more and he
like refused to slide. He wants to like go, you know,
take on these middle linebackers. And that's why he's gonna
next missed the next game and maybe after that.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
They had the blue tent the entire state of New
Jersey to keep him off the field.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Oh, and then what came in. Russ came in and
he is just fucking horrible. He is so bad, so washed,
he should never step on a football field again, unless
it's too volunteer to mow the grass at his hest
at his kids high school football field.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
It's very rare that a national pundit who's not known
for like taking shots takes shots at a player. Scott
fan Pelt, who may be one of the nicest guys
in sports media, tweets out, mister limited.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Ah, that's funny because they don't like Russ.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Yeah, Russ is like as a phony when the cameras
are the guy's a phony and it's coming back to roost. Mean, well,
there's James and Jameis Winston holding court in New Jersey
today talking about I think he's gonna start a.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yes, they announced that Mike Mike Kafkar already announced that
Jamis is starting, which he's already making the right decisions
right right off the bat, which is awesome. I mean,
it just gives us some hope, some fun. It's gonna
be fun having him out there slinging. He'll throw four
touchdowns and three interceptions, but god damn, he'll make it fun.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
You'll have a chance to win though.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Well, I's the Giants Packers, which was a Packers game
was a snooze fan.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't think Jordan Love is as good as everybody
says either. I don't either.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
I never did.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I just never really did. Uh, Juice, who do you
like in some of these games? I mean, last week
there was some surprising blowouts along the way, and.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
We got we got smacked. I hit.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I know, we didn't do the picks out here, which
I'm thankful for and nobody else.
Speaker 7 (19:32):
Didn't cost anybody else money.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
But I text Dan privately and told them what we
were playing, and we lost every single one.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
We got absolutely whack.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
All right, you're not I can't win all of them,
and that's part of the Actually, it.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Took ten weeks to have our first losing week, so
I'm okay with that. And we went ten nine weeks,
you know, in the in the black, and now we
finally go red. So that's all right, no problem. But
as I tell my friends, we're beat but not beaten.
We're going to be back this week.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Okay, give me a We'll start with the Bucks and
the Bills only because here's what's interesting about this. You've
got two quarterbacks drafted in twenty eighteen who have taken
very different journeys in the NFL. Josh Allen has been
only in Buffalo. Hopefully he'll stay only in Buffalo. You
(20:24):
have Baker Mayfield who went Cleveland and then from Cleveland
to the Panthers, from the Panthers to the Rams, from
the Rams to the Bucks.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Right, I think that's the trajectory.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
That's like four teams in eight years. So it seems
like a lot and he seems to have found a
landing spot. I'm not so sure I'm sold on Baker
Mayfield being an elite quarterback. He seems like a lot
of times he has to hop up as he's throwing
the ball to get it over the line. I don't
(20:54):
know why. And he's not that little. It's just that
he's six foot yeah, well that's five inches yeah, and
uh but how do you but yet he has a
will to win. There is a tenacity about this guy.
I mean, you feel like you have him on your side,
You've always got a shot in the game. So I'm
not I'm not feeling great about this, to be quite honest,
(21:16):
with the Bucks and the Bills.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
No, I think what's gonna help the Bills. Unfortunately, is
the loss. I don't see them losing two in a row.
So Allen's gonna be hungry and they're gonna get this
win on uh on Sunday. I just don't see them
losing again. The weather is gonna be shitty, it's gonna
be rainy. Uh So the Bills have got to run now. Also, unfortunately,
Tampa's run defense is pretty good, so the Bills are
gonna have to They're gonna have to grind this out.
(21:40):
But overall, I think with the weather conditions, I think
it's favors to Buffalo, and then I think the Buffalo
will get the win.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
And what is it?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
I think five and a half. So I'm probably not
staying away from that, or I am staying away from that.
I look to maybe take the Bills live, you know,
get it, maybe under a field goal or something.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
But I don't.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I don't like the I don't like five and a
half points, all right, I don't either.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
No, No, if I'm taking Tampa Bay in this one,
to cover, yes, to cover, Okay, They're definitely not beating
Houston the week after. I'm telling you that right now, Buffalo.
But that's another story.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
From well maybe I mean who knows they're not.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Going to Houston beating Houston on three days. No, they're not.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Uh, Chiefs Broncos.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
Chiefs really Okay.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
D and Reid go ahead off of bye huge the
Broncos last Thursday against the Raiders. That was another snooze
fest they were that was so bad they barely won
that game. That game was fucking horrible. I think the
Chiefs come in there.
Speaker 7 (22:38):
And get right.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
They're they're gonna they're gonna smack them around. I'm Chiefs
minus four b. That's our first that's our first play
the week.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Usually quarterbacks take a step forward to their sophomore year. Yeah,
he's actually like the regress his request. He does not
look good. His decision making is it's like he's playing scared,
like he doesn't want to tick off Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, well yeah, Champ Payton night. I have not heard
nice things about cham Payton in his personal life.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I think I think the Chiefs know that that division
is you know that in reach for them.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
Uh, they haven't.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Played the Broncos yet, so they're gonna knock them off
twice and get in. I think the Chargers are on
the decline with their offensive line. So I still think
the Chiefs went that division, and I think that run
that they start starts on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
All right, Uh, Danny says the Texans are good. Give
me something. They're good.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I say they're gonna beat the Bills because it's a
Thursday night game. I didn't say they're good. They they
shot their load like last week coming back against Jay.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Goodness. Uh, Texans, give me some locks of the week.
What do you got game?
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Speaking of Houston, we're gonna take them minus seven against
the Tennessee Titans. Now the player is the league's best
defense versus the league's worst offense, and I'm gonna go
defense every time.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Yes, David Mills is starting. C J.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Stroud is out, which you know gives me a little
bit of pause. But I still don't see Tennessee doing
anything in this game, and I think that Houston will
do enough to cover. I mean, even if it's ten
three or seventeen seven or something, it's gonna be low scoring,
it's gonna be ugly, but Houston will win by seven
(24:23):
or more points.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, all right, I like that. You know, what's another one?
Speaker 6 (24:26):
He got another big game, which is actually potentially game
of the game of the year.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
So far.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
You got the Rams versus the Seahawks.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Awesome game, Yes as well, Rams great.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Seattle is the sneakiest best team in the NFL, and
the times are very close.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, but I got to remember who Seattle has at quarterback,
and that's Sam Darnold and he has not really won
a big game yet. This is a big game for him,
and I just I've taken the Rams minus three in
this all day. I just think, uh, well, he hasn't
really had that game yet, and I think we're going
to see that Sunday.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Well, that game at the end of the season last
year when Minnesota went to Detroit on a Sunday night, right,
and that was Sam Donold's like make or break game.
If he wins that game, he's probably still the quarterback
of the Vikings.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, but he loses, Like I already out.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
With the injured kid McCarthy. So now so he's in
Seattle and uh yeah, he's all world.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
They are looking good. I mean, it's unbelievable, man, I
think they did they have how many points in the
first quarter.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Like twenty eight? Yes, I thought it was had two
defensive touchdowns trip Sacks. I thought it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
It's like I see it come across by phone. I'm
not even turning it not I don't want to see that.
But the Rams look so good the other night, and
that was a battle between the forty nine ers and
the Rams. But the Rams look look good. And man,
who would have thought Stafford all those years in Detroit
you looked at him and went yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And I mean he is right now if you look,
he's the VP odds favorite Matt Stafford is. So this
is a huge game for him and it's this could
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and this game will put him over five hundred. Wow, Sunday,
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but he was on so many.
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I I I can't wait to hear the thoughts of
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thought Josh Allen probably had one of his worst games ever.
But at some points you go the receiving court, nobody's
(29:02):
getting separation, and there's there is your problem. Josh pulled out.
I mean that one play he went around and around
and you're it's so exciting and any connects right, And
who's the best receiver they have, Dalton Kincaid right now,
I think it is. And then afterwards and maybe I'm
(29:23):
jumping the gun here, but then it didn't come out afterwards.
I happened to be in the studio here and then
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(30:26):
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first round draft pick and he said, no, I'll give
you twenty twenty seven. I don't know if that's true. Again,
I always say to people, I go, I wasn't in
the meeting. I don't know who knows, like somebody could be.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
That's thank you, thank you, right, But so it gets
out there, so now everybody's like, well, you're just wasting
Josh Allen. And if this is true, why wouldn't you
try to win? Right now? You're off to a pretty
decent start at six and two, and here we go.
I don't know what. I'm sure both you and Danny
have maybe seen more read more dug a little deeper
(31:12):
into that story. I'm not sure I.
Speaker 8 (31:16):
Haven't dug a little deeper into that if I can
rewind for a second. Sure I watched Somebody All twenty two,
not all that because it's two frustrated, but I will
tell you that Josh Allen made some pretty big errors.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Oh yeah, yeah on Sunday.
Speaker 8 (31:33):
Yeah, was wide open and he just overthrew him or
he underthrew them.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
It was a sideline route with a touchdown.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
Now, granted it was like Miami's fourth string cornerback, but
he was still open. There was another play where Dawson
Knox still open. Nothing in Josh Josh Allen's sideline at all.
Knox was wide open. He was the first progression in
the route. Yet he checks down to the fourth progression
and so Johnson I think it was Johnson Johnson. Uh no, yeah, no,
(32:06):
not Ty Johnson, the other one. Yeah, even whoever was
still got fifteen yards on the play. But the question is,
why wouldn't you throw your first progression that would have
given you fifteen yards in the air, not five yards
in ten yards after catch.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm not in
the film, not in their helmet.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
But gracious, there's some things that are going on right
now where no one knows, no one knows which way
is up, and it's it's really, it's really concerning. Throwing
into Tampa Bay game coming on the heuge of the
great Kansas City outing, right, they looked like that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Okay, I thought the Kansas City outing looked really good.
I got nervous at the end of the game. Uh,
but because of Kansas City. But I thought they overall
looked pretty good. I did say to Danny before. I know,
I'm sure you thought they had some awful moments in
that game, but I don't know. I thought they looked
pretty good.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Well they did, yeah, but they also today all the
way three times and only won by a touchdown at
the end of that one. I mean, so it's like
Kansas City, like on autopilot, could give the Bills at
their best game, right, and then the Bills, Oh yeah,
so we just beat the Chiefs so we can put
it on cruise control against Miami, right, and then Alan
after the game that you know they wanted more than us,
(33:19):
well why, I mean, their general managers just got fired.
There were guys that were rumored to be traded. Other
guys did get traded. Your head coaches like, is the
walking dead right now? They call a time out before
the game even starts to dispute an off sides call,
and yeah, so they're starting the game with two timeouts
in the first half and they can't even they can't
(33:40):
even get it right.
Speaker 8 (33:42):
Dissension based upon what. It's up for opinion, and it's
up for discussion. But in the press conference on the
back end of the game, when McDermott was asked, m
h your general manager said you have a championship roster?
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Do you have a championship roster? Answer? I love these players.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Oh, when the head coach starts equivocating in a press conference,
that is not an answer.
Speaker 8 (34:10):
It I love these players, that's it, and that's it.
He stopped short. He did pontificate, he died to coach speak,
he stopped.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
I love these players. End of answer.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
So there's something going on inside when Bill's drive that
is penetrating this team's enthusiasm, their drive. I said weeks
ago after the Panthers game, intentionally watching the sideline during
the game.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Forget about the game. It's forty to nine. Great.
Speaker 8 (34:43):
I wanted to see how they acted on the sideline,
and it gave me concern that and I even talked
about it here on billifid gave me concern that week.
There's no emotional leader, there's no one walking around the sideline.
Your head coach doesn't go up to the offensive side
of the bench. Ever, there's something that's going on within
that team right now. But I don't know if they
(35:04):
could find their way out of and everybody's talking about it.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
They'renna make the playoffs. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, I don't know either.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I think we're at Jima playoffs point. And I said
this three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
You did.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
We've been talking since everybody's we have been talking on
this show for weeks. We've been pointing out the deficiencies.
No one wants to listen until it happens.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Right.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Oh, there it is. It's been there all year.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, it really did. I mean it looked ugly.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
It looked I watched the game again last night. It
was actually worse.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Why why I love it?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I got I gotta be prepared to come on the show.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
No, I understand it, But you watched it. I mean
you knew how bad it was. Yeah, I'm sure you
read plenty of articles. I know you got a lot more.
Speaker 8 (35:51):
You pick up a lot more when there's and and
the second time you watch it in the middle of
it being a fan, and then you watch it the
second time you kind.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Of look built. They're predictable, they're unprepared. Yeah, like a
Dulton kk ran on in the field. Okay, we're gonna
run a pass play. Everyone knows it. When Dalton Kaka
trots off the field and they bring to Jackson Haws, Okay,
it's probably gonna be a run until they run that
stupid trick play. We're gonna roll about, throw it fake
and fake the fourth and one push push when the
(36:19):
drive before he.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Had a fourth and one to thirty four.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
You're like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Okay, first they did do that.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I wish they did too. Okay, so now we're gonna
go for it and and they give it up. And
then Miami comes back down the field and scores, and
Cole Bishop, who was a hero on the previous drive,
all of a sudden gets a pushing out of pushing
the kid out of bound. So that's another fifteen yards
they get thirty yards on that plate. Next thing, you know,
the balls in the air, touchdown, and we make too
a look like a freaking hero because the defensive second,
(36:45):
the secondary is just so banged up and so injured
and so old.
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, and and and even while I think mis Dawkins,
he said, yeah, well they came out in base defense.
If an NFL team that's two and seven comes out
there playing base defense with three linebackers and not a
nickel corner, they're saying, we're gonna stop your run. You
can't beat us in the passing game. That's what that
(37:12):
tells you, And that to me is alarming.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Yes, I will tell you what we're what we're doing
with the podcast. All good stuff, all good stuff, all
good stuff. So I want to rattle any feathers. But
there will be uh more to come on all that
stuff we're looking forward to in the near future. I
love coming here, I love doing this.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Well, I appreciate you, Dan Brillo, and I love when
your head gets on. Just love it.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I know my wife goes, you don't really get mad
over football, you just act like it to be funny.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't know. I think if you were actually in
that front office. I think there would be like that's
a good rule. I think you wouldn't sleep. I think
you wouldn't sleep. I think you'd be there. We'd find you,
like whether your fitbit going off at four am. O
for Dan Brillo, for Juice Fields, Juice Fields for Peter Montemerno.
(38:05):
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
South.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
It's California, baby, Things of God Worth is the land
up opportunity for me to
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