September 16, 2025 • 55 mins
In this special Billightenment installment of Billified: The Bill Moran Podcast, Bill sits down with spiritual teacher and energy healer Shelia Tillich for a powerful conversation about the importance of turning inward. Together, they explore the idea that true fulfillment comes from within—not from external validation, reactions, or the noise of the outside world.
This insightful episode dives into how we can:
It’s an uplifting, thought-provoking dialogue reminding us that we’re all in this together—and the path to happiness starts inside.
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This insightful episode dives into how we can:
- Listen deeply and truly hear one another
- Understand the meaning behind our emotional reactions
- Align with our higher selves to bring more joy, abundance, and purpose into our lives
- Break free from old conditioning that no longer serves us
It’s an uplifting, thought-provoking dialogue reminding us that we’re all in this together—and the path to happiness starts inside.
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Speaker 1 (01:24):
Welcome to another Installment Of. Bill LIGHTENMAN but i really
want to put this out on billified, as WELL because
i think there's so many things happening in the world
and time and stuff THAT and i have questions and thoughts,
and THINGS and i love It because sheila reached out,
and said we haven't done one in, a WHILE and,
i thought, you, know wow.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You've lost a lot. Of weight by, the way is
that rude, to? Say wow.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Really getting healthy? Feeling, better yeah isn't?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That nice got a few more?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
To, go yes. It, is yeah it's nice being able
to reach down and. Doing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
So, YEAH right i got. You that that's. Pretty good
that caught me. OFF guard i just. LOOKED up i, was,
like wow the shell shell.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Looks great so let's let let's start with because you
said you wanted to talk about, heart math but we
started kind of on our own and we were talking
about why would you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Know how did go back to school? For me come?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Out RIGHT and i, said that, you know here's, the
THING and i was, reading, ABOUT well i gave you
the story as, to Why and i've said it on the,
podcast before and it just seemed to just come about
serendipitously that, you, thought well HOW do i say no?
To this And now i'm going in over my head
in SOME areas i. Don't know but we were talking
(02:47):
about to person, focused THERAPY which, I said i like
because it sort of lets the person come to their.
Own conclusion you're not telling them. The wrong their feelings.
Aren't wrong there isn't. Anything wrong and THE example i
used was a guy who just got married and then
he decided that he likes going out for beers On
a friday with his buddies, after work and his wife
would get anyed and he needn't, understand why and.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's, LIKE listen i don't. Get it it's just me blown.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Off steam and then the next session, he says, You
know i've been thinking about this, a LOT and i
realized SHE thinks i value my friends, over her and,
he's like that's not. The case and, you know but
it really comes down to communication in a relationship is.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So important, Eat RIGHT but i.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Just think when you think of the relationship between the person, and,
life right that's always coming. At you it's really how
do we handle all? That stuff and we've seen a lot,
of changes and you've been saying there's going to be
a lot, of changes And so i'll leave. It THERE
and i know you wanted to talk about some, heart
MATH and i think that all kind of fits.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
In here how about, the consciousness the thought process of
the emotions of what. Is happening so, you know the
wife kind of concerned that the friends was? More important?
Was her it was bingo? Right there but it's like
we don't we justify our actions and not really understanding
what is happening within. The relationship it's all about listening
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to the person you know from. The heart and that's
what heart math that's.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
All.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
About okay so and what is THAT because i hear
you say heart, Math okay and there's the Heart.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Math institute that is some.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Heartmouth institute it is about learning to connect with your.
Heart intelligence heart intelligence mean it has, a brain it
has more, brain set it has more cells in it
than the. Actual brain and your heart is what, starts beating,
you know when they first see that there is an
embryo there and it's the heart that. You see so
the heart starts first and then. It develops and in,
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heart math it's all about building resilience against stress and
trauma and. Going within so whenever we talk about, going
within it's an. Inside job our whole life is an.
Inside job so we need to really take a look
at our. Own lives are? We happy if we're, not
happy why are? We unhappy SO what i do as
an energy practitioner is is help people understand what's going.
(05:09):
On inside what are the choices that? You're making, You
know and a lot of it is relationship stuff and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
PROFESSIONAL stuff i think a lot of, times too we're.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
SO conditioned i feel, Like TWO and i know that
a lot of times we seem to say the, same
things maybe in.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Different, ways yeah and we need.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To we need to people to. Understand it but?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What right So what i'm saying is like so many
times we look for our happiness from external sources and
really it has to come from.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Within you and.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's so easy, to say but, then again, you know
here comes somebody and if they only just, BEHAVE differently
i would feel so. Much better and that's not that's,
Not possible and you can't really assert, on that and
you have to kind of sometimes look down into yourself,
(06:04):
and go what is this triggering?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
In me?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Bingo bingo and what is?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That belief what? Was that what is that belief in
me that that makes this like.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Raw exactly exactly? Upsets you are you feel defensive? About?
It right said that when you know all the, OTHER
stuff i do all this, for you and, that Yes
why i'm. Saying, that well that's also expectations in the
relationship and a healthy. Relationship communicating you talked about communicating
listening to the. Other person so heart math has to
do with measurable data showing how. Your emotions your field
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of energy affects your, physical body all different areas of.
Your body, and scientifically it is the connection between the
heart and the. Thought process so thought is energy and thoughts.
Are consciousness what's in your? Consciousness field what are?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You? Thinking see this is so INTERESTING because i was
trying to think, of something not something to talk to,
you about but a way to phrase the QUESTION that,
I had and it is about THOUGHT and I think i,
ALWAYS say i do believe that we create our own
reality and everything that's coming at some point if you
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can just stop and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Go, whoa, Whoa whoa i'm.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Doing this this isn't that this is me And how
but if we create our, own reality and we can
do it just by focusing. On IT because i believe
that whatever, you want you can have or be or
do whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You want in.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This life so how do you stop focusing then on
things like the anemic.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Bank account you Know what i'm.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Saying that the bank account that looks like it went
on ozembic, scarcity, Everybody everybody and that's, Like right so
you feel that and then you start, to, go well
That's what i'm focusing on. Right now i'm Worried and,
i'm Scared and, i'm focused and that's where my. Focus
is and instead of sitting back and GOING and i,
(08:01):
DON'T know i started doing something called the five minute
journal in the morning where you're writing. Down things and
SOME days i have a, Hard TIME like i got.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To sit there to go WHAT am i?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Grateful about so that's where you make it. Very simple,
You know. I'M grateful i can, See today I'M grateful i.
Came walk just go to, little things because that is
really what it's.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
All, About jesus you're, so, sorry right but you're. SO
right i just as you're, saying, that yeah you're.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So right comparing ourselves telling people is one of, the
triggers one of, the issues and. The tissues where did
you learn that you're not, good enough you're not?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Worthy?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Enough? Right right so it goes back to the thought process,
and development, you know, emotional development going through the different
stages finding out. Your authenticity does that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Mean yeah your?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
AUTHENTIC self i know it's a, great term right we
hear that that manifestation or the two buzzwords.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right right and also you know recalibrating and a tune
that you get in tune or align yourself with. The
energy it's like the heck are they? Talking about all
it is is what's going? On inside what are you?
Feeling inside? What emotions and that's what heart math is.
All about about settling yourself in. Any situation it's about
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changing you on. The inside and so what heart math
does as shows, us scientifically but it's really about building
your own a way of. Understanding things it is about
going withinside and changing the total chemistry of your whole
body and understanding that relationships, are important but the first
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important one is with yourself and how are? You acting
how are you relating? To people and it affects every
area of. Our life and when you were just talking a,
MINUTE ago I was i kept, hearing, fear. Fear fear
where did you? Learn? Fear, yeah exactly. Exactly right it's
just like all the conversations we've had before about early
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developments and how it affected you and the choices that,
you make and then and also now what's happening is
that this is a full worldwide change in the shift
of energy consciousness. Doing, things survival survival is, the key
is that everything is turning. Upside down and you know
(10:16):
sometimes you have to when when a, door closes another one.
Opens up but we're so fearful of going through, that
door of opening it or. It closing, we say in
that fearful mode, of survival oh. My god and then
it's it's the whack a. Mole effect it affects, this
emotion that, Emotion right and it's and THAT'S what i
say about integrated energy therapy or any type of counseling,
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thought process how you relate. To things it is about
what have you? Learned inside and a lot of people
compare themselves with, other people and you're, you're unique, you're
authentic but we want to change the other person so
that we can do what we want. To do so
then you go back into the selfishness and you know
things that we learned, and say, Oh no i'm not.
(11:01):
Being selfish look At all i'm doing. For you but
it's really it's how important is a relationship and everybody
is important to, be heard to be, Listened to and
that's what the major counseling is. All about go, with
inside what's going on inside. THE person i want to
hear you, tell me and not try to change them
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or judge them or. Do differently, you know just because
you have a different life doesn't mean that they're not
as just, as, important right but. Validate Them validate.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This is kind of hitting because, UH yeah i had,
a tough.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Tough meeting yesterday involving my son who got very very upset,
with STUFF and i think was expecting a, certain REACTION
and i, just said thank you for, you know telling
me how you're really feeling on. The INSIDE and i
think that that sometimes it's hard to hear because, you're
right it comes, back.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To well look at all this stuff doing, for you blah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Blah blah and that's all the things that WE heard
i heard, growing up like you know?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You, ungrateful, yeah. YEAH exactly i think we.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Were called ungrateful Ingrades, from delf the, ungrateful INGRADES and
I and i certainly never have said that to, my
KIDS but i, YOU know i.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Can't say there are times where, you're.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like geez, YOU know i look at all the but
at the same time you kind of have to step
back and Go each, you're right each person, is different
and can YOU just i know these terms sound, so
weird but sit. With IT and i know that, Sounds
okay well what does? That mean we'll just sit there
and feel, the emotion just sit, with it just. BE
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there i acknowledge that. It's there i'm very good at.
COMPARTIMENTALIZING things i can put it in this shelf and
that shelf and put it here and take it DOWN
when i. Need it and and that's a. Nice thing
it's not always a, healthy thing but it's a. Nice
THING but i think if you can just sometimes sit
and be with the emotion in, the moment it may
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make you more empathetic and and. MAYBE wiser i know,
that sounds and that's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
All energy it's, all energy, you know being able to sympathize,
with somebody but empathize, with them feel what, they're feeling
and then also what is your reaction. To them it's
about communication and the flow of. A relationship no matter what,
it is and a lot of people, aren't heard they
don't want other people that want to listen. To them i'm,
more important. You know and it's it's hard being, a
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parent as we've always. Talked about they don't come. With
instructions kids don't come. With, instructions no and we do
the best. We can and it's all about our upbringing
or are things that, we've learned the, wisdom within going
within and to get, the answers, You know and that's
where everything is changing. Right now, It's like i'm not
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comfortable with. This happening i'm not comfortable with. That, happening
well then you've got to. MAKE changes a lot of
people don't want to, bank change and sometimes it's forced,
upon you, you know just like a divorce with, my situation
you KNOW what i went through for. MANY years i
did THE best i could and then realize it's time to.
Move on it's time to, move on and even though
it's fearful and scary in very, many ways, you know
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you've got to do it be able. To survive and
that's exactly what everything is happening. Right, now well.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Everything happening what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
By that everything happening in the, energy field in, the
world in, our society in, our workplace in the, economic
situation in our, housing development in our. Food supply you
know how much it's costing a SENSE. Of covid everything.
Has changed but it started WAY. Before covid and now
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we're actually seeing the wake up call in the last.
Five years and That's what i've, always Said and i've
seen it and knew it that it. WAS coming a time,
was coming humanity. Was changing we're, coming out, you know
and seeing things in two different ways instead of just.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
One way it's interesting because as you're TALKING, about covid
and this would be sort OF off i guess our,
general TOPIC but i THINK that covid was a blessing and.
A CURSE and i see the blessing in.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That it's a.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Paradigm shift families got to spend time together and see,
what's important, Right exactly and so now people have jobs
where they can be more accessible, to family and you
show the importance. Of that and the time was for
a lot of people was. Really valued they really really.
Valued that the bad of THAT is i look at school, things,
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now right AND when i, Say that i'm just going
to say this one thing a lot of schools now
are offering, free breakfast free lunch that it doesn't matter
what side.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Of town they have.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It exactly everything comes prepackaged BECAUSE of covid. And everything
everything these kids are grabbing is full. Of sugar they're
eating the little, powdered doughnuts they're eating boxes of bullshit cereal.
They're EATING and, i go that's the curse. Of it
and it's almost like somebody saw an opportunity to. Make
money they cut a deal with the school, and, go HEY.
(16:21):
It's covid you don't, want it you don't want to be.
Touching anything you do. Want to we, need it, you
know almost, hermetically sealed whatever. That IS and i feel
like that's part of the curse. Of this and so
now we've got kids that are hopped up on who
how can?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
LEARN exactly, i.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Mean you got you Know what, i'm saying you talk
about add and then we shove sugar down.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Their throat what are?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
We, doing yeah well that's only one part. Of it
that's only one part of, of course we know there's a.
Bigger picture it's the. Whole thing and it just doesn't HAPPEN.
With covid the preservatives and the food and things have.
Been changing so it is us waking up and seeing
the changes because we've. Lived. It yeah a lot of
times young kids don't see it because they haven't. Lived
it all they've had is electronics and the media and
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all this sort. Of, stuff well we've lived through all
the changes and, seeing it and some of them are
good and some of them. Were good and now it's
showing in, the children whether it's the food or whether it's.
The education, AND yes covid was a paradigm shift of how,
things were but also showing this is what we want you.
To do but was it really? A shift was it
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a shift to make money or was it a shift?
For control?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And RIGHT and i mean when you say control even, for,
us right we, now, realize hey we can control, our
time we can control how much time we get with.
Our family we can find jobs that provide that opportunity
and thinking, and.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah it's the.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Thinking process it's like which you talked about, the journaling,
all right and also looking at life for your glass
half full instead of? Half empty what can you do
to change? Your life why are? YOU unhappy a lot
of people are just starting to come to that realization
because they've had enough and they've seen all, the changes
and now it's time to. Take action it's always been
(18:03):
time to. Take action but whether we were, ready, emotionally
physically spiritually, to change that's. Another story how important?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is it you know a lot, of times, YOU know
i love the Saying, with nike just, do it and
sometimes you just have to do it right when you
never have.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
To face, your fears you have to go through. It
right and if, you don't, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Nothing changes but if we also so, let's say, you
know just do it and see what's going.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
HAPPEN right i kind of took that approach with this
pot the podcast in general and buying the equipment and.
All that but on the, other side is there an
importance to if there's a little hesitation to try to
line up, with it line up with? Your energy KIND of,
i don't and and it sounds because. It is it's
it's like a, metaphysical, Thing right you're trying to line
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up with energy and figure out what's the. Right thing
AND sometimes i don't know if people. KNOW how i
don't KNOW that i know how to exactly. Do that
let me give you. This example you get invited to
the family reunion and Drunk callkle harry is gonna, be
there and he grabbed your wife's ass at the, last
one and she doesn't want, to go and you're, really
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pissed and but your mom will be pissed off if you,
don't go and if you don't if you can't show up,
by yourself because everybody wants to see, the kids and
you got to get your wife, to.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Come and you get how do? You write so how
do you?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Do that and then my ONLY thing i can, think,
is yeah you have to try to get her.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
To agree and then focus ON what i.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Would say and this, sounds nuts, is like what are
the attributes Of. Uncle harry, he's funny he can, be
nice he can, be generous he can be this. And
that you get more of that and less of the
drunk ass grabber than.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The other do You understand? I'm saying so it's almost
like sometimes you have.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
To make the decision and then line up with, the
decision but look for the attributes that would be on
the plus side than.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The negatives this right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Or another thing is like why are you going in the?
First place it's not For that uncle noing you're going
to be with family and to enjoy their company, and
everybody even though you might not have relationship them. Years ago, everybody,
Changes yes and as we, get older the more we
realize life is, too short and how important is it
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it's important to go to the reunion to be able
to connect with your. Family member it's.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Important that it's funny you say that because we're recording
this on the day that the morning the Announced That robert.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
REDFORD died, I know i see that he's.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Eighty nine, years old and, you go, you know there
was SOMEBODY who i think was like, incandescently handsome maybe
one OF the i mean, honestly right that was a
guy who tried to grid up his face and it
just couldn't do. It right in the seventies You Had
jack nicholson became a leading man and he was certainly, not.
Pretty right he was slovy and scruffy and. All that
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and you think Even de naro, and stuff those who
became the, leading man and this guy was just like
even when he tried to slub, it up he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Do it just.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was impossible eastwood and you know all the, old ones
it's like, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Sad but, you, know right but he did such cool
things and was so for the independent films and THE
and i feel follow, the, Crowd NO and i feel
like like the Whole sun dance now has BECOME like i. Got,
commercialized right, you know they're going to keep certain, films
out not certain. Films IN but i Felt Like robert
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redford's point was exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What we're, talking.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
About exactly every voice needs to, be heard every art
needs to. Be seen everybody has a point of view
that should be have an opportunity to be seen by
as many. As possible you get to choose whether you
want to see it. Or not but let's, put it
give it a platform that's a little bigger than, You,
KNOW hey i made a movie come to, my.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Backyard, exactly right exactly it's and it's also when you
think of how did the movie come out in the,
First place where did that inspiration? Come from what is
the whole purpose of having? The movie and just like
what you just Said about, robert referred everybody's individual, you
know and give them the chance to make. A, movie,
es yes give them the chance to actually, express themselves
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because it's all. About individuality but it's also. About oneness
and now think of. That oneness we're all. Human beings
we all have to make, a living we all have
to breathe and take care of, our families if we,
Have families and it's all about survival and what is
the way you want. To survive do you want to
be positive or do you want to? Be negative do
you want to be happy or do you want to
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keep going and doing the same thing and feeling?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Not?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Happy exactly and then so that's where the mental stuff comes.
Into play, you know. The consciousness what you're thinking is
what you get and if you can change, everything around
if you look at situations like you're talking about your
uncle about, the resentment where do the resentment?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Come from by, the way not a. TRUE story i made.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That up that's good to let.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You know no one. Grated anybody you. Know what there
may be a Little TRUTH and i think.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Of, that well it could be it could be a
female that you were talking. About, IT NO i i
just thought.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
OF it I just i could. See this there's. A picture,
never mind that's. So funny it's all.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
About relationships it's about how, you interact just like with
the couple in the, very beginning, you know him going
On on friday night not being. With her, it's, like
okay let's look at the real. Issue here she didn't
feel heard or listened to or. Important enough and, it's
like that's what, it's about. You know it's every relationship,
is important. Every relationship and also sometimes we don't respond
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well to those people because of all the stuff that's
going inside, of us whether it's our resentments or anger or,
the jealousy.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The, envy yes.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And it's, all about, you know, looking, good right and
what or where's the fear coming? To Play if i'm not,
looking Good if i'm, not accepted where does that come.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Into play it's it's so funny that we're talking about
this because as you're, SAYING this i remember my father
SAYING when i was a, young guy, you know and
you had girlfriend or something or somebody, you liked and he,
would say you never not want to. Need, somebody yes
you want to want to be, with them but you
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don't need. Them EXACTLY and i DON'T think i ever
really understood what. That MEANT and i think a lot,
of times, you know we hear about codependency and what
does that BECOMMON and i don't know that all codependency is.
Necessarily bad some people can have a beautiful codependency and
really be. Very healthy it's the way you look, at,
It yes but a lot of times. Codependency ISN'T it's
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i need you to react, this WAY or i know
you're going to react, this Way so i'm going to,
do THIS but i need you to do THIS so
i can do you KNOW what.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean and, it's like don't it great to have spontaneity?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And, change yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's that's what. It's about it's about changing and, you
know spice things, up right, you know and not an
your relations and that's. Called growth and where did you get?
That idea maybe it came from so. And so and, it's,
LIKE no i was, just thinking, you know we don't
spend as much, time together let's, do this so let's
do something fun. Or, whatever right, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All about if what about how does quantum energy play
into all?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
This too quantum energy is the energy of our? Electromagnetic field?
All right so heart math is about your heart pumping
and the love that comes, from that and that they
actually prove that, in, many many. Many ways but the
easiest way of to explain about a little girl that,
was murdered, all right and her heart was put into another,
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little girl and that other little girls started to have
a nightmarors, and stuff and they were able to trace
back the killer from the first girl because it was
all about love in, the energy. All RIGHT so i
know it's, it's scary but it proves that the heart
has a memory exactly has the brain of. Its own
and that's why a lot of controversy is when people.
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Have TRANSPLANTS am i going to like the same food
that that? Person DID am i going to do the
same person same thing that that person? Lived by yes?
And no yes. And no and it's really about understanding,
that energy quantum energy is how, we live how, we're
alive and we have to have the elements from the
earth to. Do that in, other words, the air, the water,
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you know the food that we get and in the
heat heat from. The sun so it's all connected with
our Frequency On. Mother earth now when you think about above,
all right so they always talk about well where does gravity?
Come from where does the air? Come from, you know
so if you bring those, two together bring the, two
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together and where does a join in the chakras in the,
heart chakra which is, Number four so there's, seven chakras
three above and. Three below the three below is the
connection to, the earth your. Survival techniques that's why the
a lot of people don't want to take action is
because they have the fear of, taking action so they
stay stuck and their life. Gets miserable when you go into,
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the heart you, always love you can, never love will
never die ever and, in spirit, all right we always to.
All that religions talk about staying in love and the
higher frequency. Of love what? Is love it is the
love of, our creator whatever you choose to think. It
is but why are? You HERE as i said as a,
little girl WHY am? I here where do we? COME
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from i said that my soul knew that as a.
LITTLE girl i came up with that actual question to.
My mother she. Didn't know she, Didn't know but it
wasn't until YEARS later i went through to. Understand it
how the quantum connection with the divine whatever you want to,
call it and our relationships on earth and how we
live as humans. Is connected. Is connected heart math is
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about making that connection of the way, we think the way,
we talk and also re building resilience against things that
no longer. Serve, us yeah no Longer service in, other
words the stress in, our life the relationships in, our
life how we respond to somebody and heart maths is
about different quick coherence technique where you go, with inside
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just get quiet and bring the focus to your heart
and you bring that by things that you love like, your,
children oh, you, know, anything podcasting doing being who, you are.
Having fun you think of it and as you think,
of it it comes your heart. Variability rate so it's
electromagnetic field of. The body quantum energy is the frequency
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of how we bring that energy into our bodies and
how it responds to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Our, bodies okay so what would be a beginner version
of maybe manipulating That energy that doesn't require like a,
physics degree you Know what, I'm saying like you can
sort of manipulate.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
This energy that's the.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Consciousness field the energy that's coming out. Right now, you
know you know whether it's lover, or fear or whether
it's good or bad or, you know good, and evil
that type. Of stuff but everybody is. Seeing changes it's
called the paradigm shift. Of consciousness in, other words the
energy of the way people are thinking. And living their lives.
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Are changing and when you TALKED, about covid about all,
the changes the preservatives and the money making, from that
but it happened way. Before that it had to, start
somewhere and us, older ones the, wise ones, all right we're,
all wise but we can look back and see, the
changes and that's why we see it. SO clearly i
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didn't see it as a. LITTLE girl i see, It
now but it was all those life EXPERIENCES that i
had to build that wisdom and also to make. Different
choices that's, not working, You know i'll. TRY this i,
was like, oh no that didn't work it? Back then
why was a different person? Back then i'm NOT who
I Am now i've got more wisdom, To, say okay
that's not. Really working let's. Change it let's. Change it
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and it's the same as, a serendipity the energy within,
the field the people that are coming into, your life
and why are they coming into? Your life and you
know it just like the education that you're talking. About,
now yeah it's like you don't know why is because
maybe it's time for. The change it's part of.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
The, growth yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Knowing inside it's INTERESTING because i look at other changes
and other people that have sort of entered, my life
and it somehow all seems to, line up like the
way they, say something and and the, you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Know as, you shift as, you shift your.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sounds terrible BUT you i can't think of a. Different
analogy you, shed people you, shed things.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Change, your energy you change. The frequency think about your
mom with. The reiki what is.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
REIKI doing i don't know if she's an End, life okay,
so no IT'S about i. DON'T think i think that
is just, SIMPLY well i. DON'T know i think it's, her,
Energy right but she doesn't, touch you she just hovers.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Around you there's different ways through some. People do it's
all about the body, getting, balanced homestasis. All right the
body knows how to take care. Of, itself yeah, all
right but it has to have the ingredients to. Do
that so it's all about bringing. THE conduit a practitioner
is a conduit where the energy is coming, through them
the energy where the, Quantum energy how is it coming?
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Through them they're, breathing it it's going into. Their heart
it's their intention of helping the. Other person so we're
just conduits that go into the person's, chakra areas which
is part of the quantum energy that's coming through and
if the body is ready. To heal it's all about the,
person's choice but it's about your intention of trying to.
Help them and so reiki is a passive energy where
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the body starts to change and fuel all this stuff
and wants. To change it has to do with a
person's wanting. To change it's all about. The consciousness so
there's a lot, of.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
This like our own. Self work, FORGIVE me i HAVE a.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I forgot you have a chord here that's not. Coming,
OUT no i have.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
A CHORD that i need. Over here let's say there.
We go, that works.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
THAT'LL work i know it's, it's deep, it's deep but it's, all,
connected yes with your thoughts and how. You respond but
it does sound like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This stuff HOW do i say this without sounding, you know,
you know like where. YOU would.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think a lot of it is. The individual you
have to, go, Inside right it's an.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Inside, job everything it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Inside job so when you're having, reiki done is it
working or does it?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Not? Work?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Now, WORK no, I Understand but i'm, just saying like
there are people WHO walking i didn't, feel, Anything okay
but is that your resistance to it and not? Recognizing
it and is? Their yes and if you go in, and,
Go boy i'm having a hard time here. LINING up
i need something that's going to. Help me that conduit
(33:10):
can help you get back into. Your flow but you
got to go inside exactly and Recognize who i'm having
a hard, time here and. That's it and if it's,
not reiki if it's, talk therapy if it's.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
If, it's, massage, therapy acupuncture, you know hands, on healing,
you know pastors. Or, whatever yes it's in what's. Happening
here it is the flow of quantum energy. Coming through and.
The intention that's a. BUZZWORD too a lot of people
don't know what. Intention, means well it has to do
with what's? Your agenda what do you really want? To
achieve are you trying to? Manipulate somebody are you really
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trying to? Help somebody and the same. WITH ourselves, i
mean are we going to have a reiki session because
my wife wanted me to have it and this is
the only way to save, the marriage OR DO i
i really? ENJOY it i just it's my. TIME piece
i used to say, YEARS ago i was so being
in the, dentist chair, just relaxing just. Totally ozoning now
is the TIME that i was able. To relax it's like.
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You're kidding in the. Dentist chair it was a time.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
For, me yeah, You know and now that sounds. VERY
weird I think i fell asleep in the dentist. Chair,
once yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's the way we look, at it but it. Could be,
you know as, a child you were tortured going to,
the dentists and, so no don't go to the. D
yes RIGHT when i was, a phlebotomus it was the same,
thing about, you know getting blood, work done and if
the parent has had the terror over and, the trauma
they put it onto. The children oh he's just, like me,
you know he's just. Like me he's gonna and the
other kids, kids, Going, no mom here we. Go again
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and then all of, a sudden the mom passes out
and then the child or the person child because it
was it wasn't anything that was done. To them it
was the fear of the issues and, the tissues the
imprint of the energy that was in the. Cellular, structure
yeah it's all about choices going.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Inside, energy yeah and so many things that we have
in life are learned learned behaviors exactly or, learned reactions
which really then goes is it nature?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Or nurture and how did you?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Learn it when did you? Learn?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
IT yeah i was?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Really, Young yeah and what was it? Going on, it's
like you know the. School system, you know, years ago
we learned how, to, read write and, the rhythmic it
be able to, do multiplications, you know to be able to.
Quantitly think and now it's like the they have to
have the they have to have, the computer they have
to have the calculator to figure out. Things, out yes
and it's like in the same but, The cursive why
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did the cursive? Go away and just printing? Come out
so it's like those are the changes that we've seen over.
The years why did? THAT happen i. Don't, know well
it's a change of the frequency of what's happening in.
The earth it's also, good evolution but it's also what's
the agenda? Behind it what is the intention? Behind it think.
(35:56):
About THAT so covid was a, paradigm shift a shift,
of consciousness meaning things are going. To, change yeah but
it had to lead up to that, to change just
like evolution, in medicine what we knew two hundred years
ago is not what we. Know now and why did
it speed up so quickly in the last one, hundred
years the last? Fifty, YEARS yeah i. Don't, Know yeah
(36:18):
well that's the change. Of energy how is it? Coming
in and it has to do with the actual energy Of,
the earth the frequency Of, the earth and also How
the sun is transmitting, the energy the heat down to our.
Electromagnetic field how do we respond. To, things see it's.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So weird because it sounds, so, whoah, yeah, yeah yeah
but it's. All, scientific yeah it is because it's. All
here this is the stuff that. IS here i, always
say you never truck anything. In, here well.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If you look at, THAT though i think, about that
if you're looking at your evolving and you're coming up
with proof that as, we're evolving just like we didn't come.
From apes and the reason why we have twenty two
chromosome instead of twenty four like the apes is it
has to do with a. Higher frequency it has to
do with, our, Creator right and a lot of people
don't want to believe that is because they have the fear,
(37:10):
of something, you know blockage. From religion, you know it's not.
About religion it's about your inside connectedness of who you
are as a. Divine being why are? We here where
do we? Come? From, right so if you take a
look at, all that you can see the changes starting.
To happen and it just. Didn't happen it's been evolving for.
Some time the reason why it might not want to
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evolve to the truth is that it would people wouldn't.
Make money people would have. To change the books would have,
to change the chiefs would have, to change the education
would have. To change and a lot of, people say,
OH no i can't. Do that i'm ago. All right
so it's all. About people what is scientifically THAT'S what
i like about the scientists that Really, go okay let's
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look at all the new things that are, coming out
and a lot of times the new things have, been
out but society would let them out because then it.
Would change what would? It change it would change, the
academics it would change the financial people who were getting
who were controlling or get profiting from it wasn't going
to profit anymore because then everybody could. Do it. Everybody
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knew and that's exactly what going back to being authentic,
all right going back to we all have the power to.
Connect within we all are part of a. Bigger picture whatever.
It is we came. From somewhere but it's the miracle
in science of how, a seed, you know an egg
and his ferm come together and. It forms how did?
(38:34):
That happen how did? That happen so when you go back,
to science you can you can talk about the sacred
geometry and the molecules and atoms and how life. Actually
developed that's where we, can see we. Understand, it however intention,
and agenda where are they going to go? With this
JUST LIKE ai ai, is good it's the intention of
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the person that is produced IN. The ai but there
is there's negative and positive there we go with the
love and, the fear negative, and positive good, and bad
and it's coming out now and it's the change of
humanity and. IT'S good covid was good allowing people to
really take a look. At themselves it also makes them
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want to do, something different force them to do, something
different have, the children but it also impacted the children's
learning you did and them having, the socialization having them
growing in. The wisdom there's a lot of bad.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
About, it yeah, there is.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
There is and now we are. Experiencing it we are.
Experiencing it as far as what's happening, right now it's all.
Inside job you got to. Go inside it's about, staying happy,
you know staying in the. Higher frequency the higher frequency
is always is.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
The CASE and i try to say, to people it's
like an athlete being in. The. ZONE right i can't
miss a shot on the, basketball court, ALL right i
throw a dime on the, you know right to, the
player and it's how do you get there and? Stay
there and that's where athletes have sports psychologists to all
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these things to help their mind. Stay SHARP and i
think we're starting to see the benefit of the mind
like keeping the mind healthy almost like. A WORKOUT like
i have a friend who has a business and he
calls it the Mind. Fit jim and the idea would
be that you could get a membership and if you
wanted to go into a, group class you could drop
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in a, group class and if you wanted to do
a game, or something but it was all about keeping, your,
mind yes.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
And building those neurons. And transmitters and the more, you
do the more you can. Stay active, you know it's
when you don't, use it you. Lose it it's in anything.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Sports, mind well, You know and then we talk about
things like and you can kind of think, about this
but we hear often words like depression.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And, Anxiety yeah i'm not saying that they're. Not real.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
They are but sometimes taking a when, you're depressed you
don't want to. Do anything, you know you don't want,
to move you don't want to get, a, bed right there,
ARE times i mean you could really be and it's
it's THAT'S where i think sometimes it's the inside job
is again to go in and like, you said my, legs,
work right my, Legs work so take a.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Walk exactly enjoy, the sunshine do.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Something, different yeah take, a look it's not work and do.
Something DIFFERENT but i don't. Want to? Why not it's because,
you know and it's really, the, fear yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Of change it sounds it's really in.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
A way the more we talk and the more we,
SAY it i feel like it's a very, simple thing
and we complicate it a little bit because you know
in terms of like if, you're depressed, you know take,
A walk.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well take, a walk but or just take. A, pill.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah well see that's the.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Easy, THING yeah i know that's the red pill or the,
blue pill but where's the. Violet pill where's the? Violet
pill it's about the violet pill is a out making
your own choices what works, for you and then realizing
the choices that you make and how it affects. Other
people it's the same as understanding in. Your field what
you're thinking is what you're going to. Project outside and
(42:13):
if you go into a room to somebody you've had
an argument, with before what's immediately going to? Come up
probably the argument exactly instead of tret. A minute, all
right we both learned from. That situation, You know i'm
not going to do. That anymore that's a. Learning opportunity
but also shaking somebody's hands Is like i'm. Really, sorry
yeah taken accountability.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
For it sometimes, Right too like, YOU know.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't i certainly would never say, to, somebody oh
don't have.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
The medicine don't have. THE pill i think it can.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Be a tool to help you maybe get past the
initial EMOTION of i just want to lash out at.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
This, person well what happens if the person is really unhappy?
With themselves what do? They do they go off and
tell somebody else what just happened. To you and then,
it's like, you know the gossip and the character assassination
and build the energy so they don't have to look. At,
themselves right that's what it's.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
About it but sometimes it would it would be fair
to say that the medicine gives you a chance to
sort of pause and.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Look inside, oh yeah JUST like i feel like.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
That's almost like a well, a barrier like you can't do.
It yourself so here's a tool that may help.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And get and thank god we are, advancing technology we can. Do,
that yeah but it's where is? It, overdependence well that's the,
worry that that's the whole and that's where we've seen it.
All happened the same. With labeling when you're going to
when we talk about, labeling people you're not going to
listen to them, because oh they're just a drug addict
or they're just an alcoholic. Or, whatever right, it's like
where is that? Coming from why is a? Person drinking
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why is a person doing? The drugs it's usually the
anxiety and, The, depression yes so they don't have To
feel it's the same. With smoking every time you take,
a drag it calms the. Emotions inside it's.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Breathing exactly smoking is, just, breathing.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah exactly so you know you can, you know dissect
it or whatever and understand the thing is understanding from
an intellectual point, of view and, Then, saying okay that's
not working for. Me anymore i'm going. To change i'm
going to. Do different why aren't you? Doing different Is
because i'm caught in. The fear i'm caught in. The
fear so when that, door closes look at it as
(44:16):
an opportunity to, do different And, thank god this IS
what i was going to. Pray for it's exactly what
you were praying to, Help me, help me, Help me
and all of a sudden the opportunity, comes by but
you don't. Realize it you think it's it's going to
be a. Bad, thing really it is the door that
you need to take to open to. Move forward and
that's where the gut feeling. Is inside go inside and
(44:38):
ASK should i take? This JOB should i? DO this
i don't know what, to do but you have to.
Train yourself it just. Doesn't happen and a lot, of
PEOPLE why i Pray to god and. Nothing's, HAPPENING okay
i Pray. To god. It's you You.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Are god you are the power, within yea just like the,
song says the power, within exactly and you do and
you need to step in into. Your LIFE and i
think it is sometimes.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
That simple but we.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Complicated with things and, they, GO well i can't. DO
that i got to get over here or the kids
or this.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Or that but sometimes but it's making.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Balance balance it's, about, balance okay and Also, Compromising okay i'll,
Do this i'll. Do that let's that's called, a relationship
a healthy relationship because everything changes every. Single, day yes
you have to be ready for. The changes and then
what you were talking, about, compartmentalizing right and what you
have to do same with multitasking women with multitasking men.
(45:34):
With compartmentalizing it's the. Same thing and what is really
good is when you put, it together when you put
it together and work together as a team as. A,
Partnership right and that's what we, all want. Don't we
you don't want to, be, alone, No, right however it
doesn't mean that if you're alone that you're, not happy.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Because NO and i think you have to have that
security in yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
And where do you get that to?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Do that from you got to.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Get, it yeah so it's, ALL well I think i
think we've just solved the world.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
PROBLEMS here i don't know that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You know what it's all about what you put. Out there,
you know if you're going to look at things as,
you know, being bad then that's what's going to come.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Towards you and IT'S like i agree, with, That, hope yes.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Me too excitement and the light is that there's always
light at the end of, the tunnel as, THEY say
i think.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
SO too i also think that in a very weird
thing of, you know there are a lot of things
that have been said, so well but let's, say, religiously
right let go And. Let, god yes that's, One, right.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Okay that's what recovery work is.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
All ABOUT and i think that that's a really. GOOD
thing i would say to Anybody that i'm not completely
sure that human beings are capable of.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Unconditional love i'm, not.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
SURE but i am pretty sure that the universe loves
all of, us unconditionally absolutely unconditionally one with. The divine
so all that means is whatever you believe it will.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
SUPPORT exactly i don't have enough it will support. THAT
exactly i, have enough it will.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Support it be happy with what, you, have yes and
Gratitude lists. I'M happy i can open my eyes.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
And, see well it's funny that you, say that because,
they go, all right that's. So simple but.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
When you say me to keep, it, simple no but.
You're right and when YOU said i have legs, THAT
work i started, To think oh, MY gosh i watched,
my father who used to run and do all, this stuff. Fall,
continuously yes and his legs. Didn't work they just his
body wasn't. Working anymore to get up.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
AND go i. Got this this is. A gift this
is a gift.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
To exactly AND when i share all The things i've,
been through all the tragedy, and trauma and my family
will die and watching them die and important things, in
life doing, hospice work the honor, of it seeing the
decline of a person and feeling sad because you knew
who they. Were before but also it's, about you you
having compassion for your. Fellow man have compassion. For, yourself first,
(48:04):
go within find, peace within and then you can give.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It out TELLTHERS and i have this weird, thing, like
oh you never get, it done you never get. It
wrong to stop beating yourself up ABOUT oh i shouldn't have, done,
that decisions beating.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yourself up you never get.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
It wrong it's all about learning and it's. A ride
and at the end of, the ride you're. Not done
you're just done in, this body this, this machine.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
This machine and that's why it's a crude way to.
Put it but all we are are pumps, and, pipes
right you KNOW what? I mean think. About it how
many people do you know how to stint put in? Their?
Heart why because the pipe was.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Clogged exactly and when they talk, about ascension everybody talks
that's a. Buzzword. Too ascension people think they're going to die,
Right now they're going to sound Just like. Jesus. Did
no ascension is building a higher frequency, withinside yourself in,
other words your spiritual knowing inside. Your abilities and that's what's,
happening now the shift. Of consciousness where is the connection?
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Between spirituality and when they hear The, Word, god jesus boot,
or whatever what are they going to react? Towards it,
you know it's all about not naming anything or putting
a label, on anything but really about going inside and
feel the power that you have inside and you can
take that power with you when you, pass over because
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your soul. Never dies that's the difference in. The industry we'll.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
See that THAT'S what. I BELIEVE and i, think sometimes,
YOU know i don't want.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
To remember i'm a. Minister, PERFECT yeah i don't.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Want TO what i was going to SAY is i
don't want to shit, on RELIGION and i, certainly DON'T
but i think that SOMETIMES if i think it would
be hard to argue that it wasn't a form. Of
control and if you look At The catholic church and
all the things that went on and the people whose lives,
were damaged yes by action that people took where they
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covered up and they hid and they, did it and
it was all about control and property and taxation and
you know.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
All This and i'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
There aren't good people in, that religion learning that come
right with with. Proper intent i'm just saying that maybe
you need to step back and go it's really about
again the inside job you are.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
YOU are i really.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Think the Message of jesus was. Messed up did you
KNOW that i am? The way no be, like me
be like you are, like me go. Like me you have,
this power you have it all in you.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
And have compassion and have compassion, Exactly exactly. So cool there.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You go what else is happening In.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Sh what's going on? WITH me a lot of different
things here once, a month The first wednesday of. The
month i'm actually part of a conscious psychic development class at. My,
Treasure Yeah mythic treasures is a metaphysical Store, In henriette
Henrietta On. Jefferson road and mythic is everything about things
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you can't see, type thing but it's really About love
god however you want to. Practice it of course it's
got the bad name of woo, woo stuff but it's.
Really not and so this class is. Psychic development class.
Is free and the actual Owner Of, Mythic Treasurers, sue
stevenson actually wanted three of us. Spiritual people we all
come from different walks, of life. All right We Have,
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lady shirah which is she actually is, a coach a,
witch coach. All right It's, not wika it's, not pagan
it's like. Her own she's. A reverend it's about, shadow
work but the light in. The dark then we have an,
Actual Medium colleen irwine spiritualism and You Know lily dale
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and all the other stuff and, reading People and i'm more,
than metaphysical not a, physical meaning the spiritual part of who.
We are word do we? Come from what's? Our divinity
and the three of us have a different way, of
communicating but it's all. The same it's all about who
are you inside your? Spiritual development how can you? Recognize
it and everybody learns in a. Different way JUST like
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i don't, like TOMATOES so i eat. Something else, you
know we all have a different flare in, the buffet
a buffet, of life and sometimes you like food one
time and you. Don't another it's all about. Growth too
so that's The first wednesday of. The month we just
started this. Past, Month also i'm spitting all over myself theorry. About,
THAT also i do private events, all right on all.
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Different topics, all right you can go to my website
and check all. That out but that is a lot
of people just want to talk it over with, their friends,
you know have a, get together have me come in
for a couple hours and let's talk. AND questions a
lot of people, Have questions so THAT'S what. I, do
also OF course i, have yeah and OF course i have,
my sessions individual sessions where. We talk we, talk about,
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you know what's no longer serve you and let's get.
Them OUT so i do energy work. On them but
it starts, with talking just like listen to you into
me c having that intimacy to want to share what's really,
going on because a lot of times to go, to
professionalism IT'S like i don't. Want that what time? Is it,
you know see you? Next week it's, like no let's
let's look on tools that you. Can use and that's
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the difference being a. Metaphysical minister it's about things unseen,
all right and how can you change? Your life and
then OF course i have my classes integrated energy therapy
where you can actually learn how to do this, on yourself,
you know bring your consciousness field up and then also
unity field healing is about tapping into this higher divine
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quantum energy that's here now.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
And you can find all this and.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Then met cartmath. TEACH you i can teach you how
to do, heart math building yourself resilience, against stress changing
your variability rate of calmness so that in any situation
you can become or you can think about it before
for keeping the calmness and not letting your blood. Pressure
rise a healthy it's about doing yoga but without having
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to do a stretch. Or whatever. You KNOW so i
have a COMBINATION and i do all this, stuff myself,
YOU KNOW i i. HAVE to i have sessions on
myself all the time with, other people and ALSO when
i give a session, TO somebody i get healed at
the same time because my emotions and stuff comes. Out
too and That's the that is the connection with, the
compassion the figure eight energy quantum energy coming through the
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Welcome to another Installment Of. Bill LIGHTENMAN but i really
want to put this out on billified, as WELL because
i think there's so many things happening in the world
and time and stuff THAT and i have questions and thoughts,
and THINGS and i love It because sheila reached out,
and said we haven't done one in, a WHILE and,
i thought, you, know wow.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
You've lost a lot. Of weight by, the way is
that rude, to? Say wow.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Really getting healthy? Feeling, better yeah isn't?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That nice got a few more?
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To, go yes. It, is yeah it's nice being able
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Looks great so let's let let's start with because you
said you wanted to talk about, heart math but we
started kind of on our own and we were talking
about why would you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Know how did go back to school? For me come?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Out RIGHT and i, said that, you know here's, the
THING and i was, reading, ABOUT well i gave you
the story as, to Why and i've said it on the,
podcast before and it just seemed to just come about
serendipitously that, you, thought well HOW do i say no?
To this And now i'm going in over my head
in SOME areas i. Don't know but we were talking
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about to person, focused THERAPY which, I said i like
because it sort of lets the person come to their.
Own conclusion you're not telling them. The wrong their feelings.
Aren't wrong there isn't. Anything wrong and THE example i
used was a guy who just got married and then
he decided that he likes going out for beers On
a friday with his buddies, after work and his wife
would get anyed and he needn't, understand why and.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's, LIKE listen i don't. Get it it's just me blown.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Off steam and then the next session, he says, You
know i've been thinking about this, a LOT and i
realized SHE thinks i value my friends, over her and,
he's like that's not. The case and, you know but
it really comes down to communication in a relationship is.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
So important, Eat RIGHT but i.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Just think when you think of the relationship between the person, and,
life right that's always coming. At you it's really how
do we handle all? That stuff and we've seen a lot,
of changes and you've been saying there's going to be
a lot, of changes And so i'll leave. It THERE
and i know you wanted to talk about some, heart
MATH and i think that all kind of fits.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
In here how about, the consciousness the thought process of
the emotions of what. Is happening so, you know the
wife kind of concerned that the friends was? More important?
Was her it was bingo? Right there but it's like
we don't we justify our actions and not really understanding
what is happening within. The relationship it's all about listening
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to the person you know from. The heart and that's
what heart math that's.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
All.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
About okay so and what is THAT because i hear
you say heart, Math okay and there's the Heart.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Math institute that is some.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Heartmouth institute it is about learning to connect with your.
Heart intelligence heart intelligence mean it has, a brain it
has more, brain set it has more cells in it
than the. Actual brain and your heart is what, starts beating,
you know when they first see that there is an
embryo there and it's the heart that. You see so
the heart starts first and then. It develops and in,
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heart math it's all about building resilience against stress and
trauma and. Going within so whenever we talk about, going
within it's an. Inside job our whole life is an.
Inside job so we need to really take a look
at our. Own lives are? We happy if we're, not
happy why are? We unhappy SO what i do as
an energy practitioner is is help people understand what's going.
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On inside what are the choices that? You're making, You
know and a lot of it is relationship stuff and.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
PROFESSIONAL stuff i think a lot of, times too we're.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
SO conditioned i feel, Like TWO and i know that
a lot of times we seem to say the, same
things maybe in.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Different, ways yeah and we need.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
To we need to people to. Understand it but?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
What right So what i'm saying is like so many
times we look for our happiness from external sources and
really it has to come from.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Within you and.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
That's so easy, to say but, then again, you know
here comes somebody and if they only just, BEHAVE differently
i would feel so. Much better and that's not that's,
Not possible and you can't really assert, on that and
you have to kind of sometimes look down into yourself,
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and go what is this triggering?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
In me?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Bingo bingo and what is?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
That belief what? Was that what is that belief in
me that that makes this like.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Raw exactly exactly? Upsets you are you feel defensive? About?
It right said that when you know all the, OTHER
stuff i do all this, for you and, that Yes
why i'm. Saying, that well that's also expectations in the
relationship and a healthy. Relationship communicating you talked about communicating
listening to the. Other person so heart math has to
do with measurable data showing how. Your emotions your field
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of energy affects your, physical body all different areas of.
Your body, and scientifically it is the connection between the
heart and the. Thought process so thought is energy and thoughts.
Are consciousness what's in your? Consciousness field what are?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You? Thinking see this is so INTERESTING because i was
trying to think, of something not something to talk to,
you about but a way to phrase the QUESTION that,
I had and it is about THOUGHT and I think i,
ALWAYS say i do believe that we create our own
reality and everything that's coming at some point if you
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can just stop and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Go, whoa, Whoa whoa i'm.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Doing this this isn't that this is me And how
but if we create our, own reality and we can
do it just by focusing. On IT because i believe
that whatever, you want you can have or be or
do whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You want in.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
This life so how do you stop focusing then on
things like the anemic.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Bank account you Know what i'm.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Saying that the bank account that looks like it went
on ozembic, scarcity, Everybody everybody and that's, Like right so
you feel that and then you start, to, go well
That's what i'm focusing on. Right now i'm Worried and,
i'm Scared and, i'm focused and that's where my. Focus
is and instead of sitting back and GOING and i,
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DON'T know i started doing something called the five minute
journal in the morning where you're writing. Down things and
SOME days i have a, Hard TIME like i got.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To sit there to go WHAT am i?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Grateful about so that's where you make it. Very simple,
You know. I'M grateful i can, See today I'M grateful i.
Came walk just go to, little things because that is
really what it's.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
All, About jesus you're, so, sorry right but you're. SO
right i just as you're, saying, that yeah you're.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
So right comparing ourselves telling people is one of, the
triggers one of, the issues and. The tissues where did
you learn that you're not, good enough you're not?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Worthy?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Enough? Right right so it goes back to the thought process,
and development, you know, emotional development going through the different
stages finding out. Your authenticity does that.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Mean yeah your?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
AUTHENTIC self i know it's a, great term right we
hear that that manifestation or the two buzzwords.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Right now?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Right right and also you know recalibrating and a tune
that you get in tune or align yourself with. The
energy it's like the heck are they? Talking about all
it is is what's going? On inside what are you?
Feeling inside? What emotions and that's what heart math is.
All about about settling yourself in. Any situation it's about
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changing you on. The inside and so what heart math
does as shows, us scientifically but it's really about building
your own a way of. Understanding things it is about
going withinside and changing the total chemistry of your whole
body and understanding that relationships, are important but the first
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important one is with yourself and how are? You acting
how are you relating? To people and it affects every
area of. Our life and when you were just talking a,
MINUTE ago I was i kept, hearing, fear. Fear fear
where did you? Learn? Fear, yeah exactly. Exactly right it's
just like all the conversations we've had before about early
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developments and how it affected you and the choices that,
you make and then and also now what's happening is
that this is a full worldwide change in the shift
of energy consciousness. Doing, things survival survival is, the key
is that everything is turning. Upside down and you know
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sometimes you have to when when a, door closes another one.
Opens up but we're so fearful of going through, that
door of opening it or. It closing, we say in
that fearful mode, of survival oh. My god and then
it's it's the whack a. Mole effect it affects, this
emotion that, Emotion right and it's and THAT'S what i
say about integrated energy therapy or any type of counseling,
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thought process how you relate. To things it is about
what have you? Learned inside and a lot of people
compare themselves with, other people and you're, you're unique, you're
authentic but we want to change the other person so
that we can do what we want. To do so
then you go back into the selfishness and you know
things that we learned, and say, Oh no i'm not.
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Being selfish look At all i'm doing. For you but
it's really it's how important is a relationship and everybody
is important to, be heard to be, Listened to and
that's what the major counseling is. All about go, with
inside what's going on inside. THE person i want to
hear you, tell me and not try to change them
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or judge them or. Do differently, you know just because
you have a different life doesn't mean that they're not
as just, as, important right but. Validate Them validate.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
This is kind of hitting because, UH yeah i had,
a tough.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Tough meeting yesterday involving my son who got very very upset,
with STUFF and i think was expecting a, certain REACTION
and i, just said thank you for, you know telling
me how you're really feeling on. The INSIDE and i
think that that sometimes it's hard to hear because, you're
right it comes, back.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
To well look at all this stuff doing, for you blah.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Blah blah and that's all the things that WE heard
i heard, growing up like you know?
Speaker 2 (12:07):
You, ungrateful, yeah. YEAH exactly i think we.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Were called ungrateful Ingrades, from delf the, ungrateful INGRADES and
I and i certainly never have said that to, my
KIDS but i, YOU know i.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Can't say there are times where, you're.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Like geez, YOU know i look at all the but
at the same time you kind of have to step
back and Go each, you're right each person, is different
and can YOU just i know these terms sound, so
weird but sit. With IT and i know that, Sounds
okay well what does? That mean we'll just sit there
and feel, the emotion just sit, with it just. BE
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there i acknowledge that. It's there i'm very good at.
COMPARTIMENTALIZING things i can put it in this shelf and
that shelf and put it here and take it DOWN
when i. Need it and and that's a. Nice thing
it's not always a, healthy thing but it's a. Nice
THING but i think if you can just sometimes sit
and be with the emotion in, the moment it may
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make you more empathetic and and. MAYBE wiser i know,
that sounds and that's.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
All energy it's, all energy, you know being able to sympathize,
with somebody but empathize, with them feel what, they're feeling
and then also what is your reaction. To them it's
about communication and the flow of. A relationship no matter what,
it is and a lot of people, aren't heard they
don't want other people that want to listen. To them i'm,
more important. You know and it's it's hard being, a
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parent as we've always. Talked about they don't come. With
instructions kids don't come. With, instructions no and we do
the best. We can and it's all about our upbringing
or are things that, we've learned the, wisdom within going
within and to get, the answers, You know and that's
where everything is changing. Right now, It's like i'm not
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comfortable with. This happening i'm not comfortable with. That, happening
well then you've got to. MAKE changes a lot of
people don't want to, bank change and sometimes it's forced,
upon you, you know just like a divorce with, my situation
you KNOW what i went through for. MANY years i
did THE best i could and then realize it's time to.
Move on it's time to, move on and even though
it's fearful and scary in very, many ways, you know
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you've got to do it be able. To survive and
that's exactly what everything is happening. Right, now well.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Everything happening what do you mean?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
By that everything happening in the, energy field in, the
world in, our society in, our workplace in the, economic
situation in our, housing development in our. Food supply you
know how much it's costing a SENSE. Of covid everything.
Has changed but it started WAY. Before covid and now
(14:47):
we're actually seeing the wake up call in the last.
Five years and That's what i've, always Said and i've
seen it and knew it that it. WAS coming a time,
was coming humanity. Was changing we're, coming out, you know
and seeing things in two different ways instead of just.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
One way it's interesting because as you're TALKING, about covid
and this would be sort OF off i guess our,
general TOPIC but i THINK that covid was a blessing and.
A CURSE and i see the blessing in.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That it's a.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Paradigm shift families got to spend time together and see,
what's important, Right exactly and so now people have jobs
where they can be more accessible, to family and you
show the importance. Of that and the time was for
a lot of people was. Really valued they really really.
Valued that the bad of THAT is i look at school, things,
(15:45):
now right AND when i, Say that i'm just going
to say this one thing a lot of schools now
are offering, free breakfast free lunch that it doesn't matter
what side.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Of town they have.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It exactly everything comes prepackaged BECAUSE of covid. And everything
everything these kids are grabbing is full. Of sugar they're
eating the little, powdered doughnuts they're eating boxes of bullshit cereal.
They're EATING and, i go that's the curse. Of it
and it's almost like somebody saw an opportunity to. Make
money they cut a deal with the school, and, go HEY.
(16:21):
It's covid you don't, want it you don't want to be.
Touching anything you do. Want to we, need it, you
know almost, hermetically sealed whatever. That IS and i feel
like that's part of the curse. Of this and so
now we've got kids that are hopped up on who
how can?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
LEARN exactly, i.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Mean you got you Know what, i'm saying you talk
about add and then we shove sugar down.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Their throat what are?
Speaker 3 (16:39):
We, doing yeah well that's only one part. Of it
that's only one part of, of course we know there's a.
Bigger picture it's the. Whole thing and it just doesn't HAPPEN.
With covid the preservatives and the food and things have.
Been changing so it is us waking up and seeing
the changes because we've. Lived. It yeah a lot of
times young kids don't see it because they haven't. Lived
it all they've had is electronics and the media and
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all this sort. Of, stuff well we've lived through all
the changes and, seeing it and some of them are
good and some of them. Were good and now it's
showing in, the children whether it's the food or whether it's.
The education, AND yes covid was a paradigm shift of how,
things were but also showing this is what we want you.
To do but was it really? A shift was it
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a shift to make money or was it a shift?
For control?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And RIGHT and i mean when you say control even, for,
us right we, now, realize hey we can control, our
time we can control how much time we get with.
Our family we can find jobs that provide that opportunity
and thinking, and.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah it's the.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Thinking process it's like which you talked about, the journaling,
all right and also looking at life for your glass
half full instead of? Half empty what can you do
to change? Your life why are? YOU unhappy a lot
of people are just starting to come to that realization
because they've had enough and they've seen all, the changes
and now it's time to. Take action it's always been
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time to. Take action but whether we were, ready, emotionally
physically spiritually, to change that's. Another story how important?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is it you know a lot, of times, YOU know
i love the Saying, with nike just, do it and
sometimes you just have to do it right when you
never have.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
To face, your fears you have to go through. It
right and if, you don't, nothing changes.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Nothing changes but if we also so, let's say, you
know just do it and see what's going.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
To.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
HAPPEN right i kind of took that approach with this
pot the podcast in general and buying the equipment and.
All that but on the, other side is there an
importance to if there's a little hesitation to try to
line up, with it line up with? Your energy KIND of,
i don't and and it sounds because. It is it's
it's like a, metaphysical, Thing right you're trying to line
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up with energy and figure out what's the. Right thing
AND sometimes i don't know if people. KNOW how i
don't KNOW that i know how to exactly. Do that
let me give you. This example you get invited to
the family reunion and Drunk callkle harry is gonna, be
there and he grabbed your wife's ass at the, last
one and she doesn't want, to go and you're, really
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pissed and but your mom will be pissed off if you,
don't go and if you don't if you can't show up,
by yourself because everybody wants to see, the kids and
you got to get your wife, to.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Come and you get how do? You write so how
do you?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Do that and then my ONLY thing i can, think,
is yeah you have to try to get her.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
To agree and then focus ON what i.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Would say and this, sounds nuts, is like what are
the attributes Of. Uncle harry, he's funny he can, be
nice he can, be generous he can be this. And
that you get more of that and less of the
drunk ass grabber than.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
The other do You understand? I'm saying so it's almost
like sometimes you have.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
To make the decision and then line up with, the
decision but look for the attributes that would be on
the plus side than.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The negatives this right.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Or another thing is like why are you going in the?
First place it's not For that uncle noing you're going
to be with family and to enjoy their company, and
everybody even though you might not have relationship them. Years ago, everybody,
Changes yes and as we, get older the more we
realize life is, too short and how important is it
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it's important to go to the reunion to be able
to connect with your. Family member it's.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Important that it's funny you say that because we're recording
this on the day that the morning the Announced That robert.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
REDFORD died, I know i see that he's.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Eighty nine, years old and, you go, you know there
was SOMEBODY who i think was like, incandescently handsome maybe
one OF the i mean, honestly right that was a
guy who tried to grid up his face and it
just couldn't do. It right in the seventies You Had
jack nicholson became a leading man and he was certainly, not.
Pretty right he was slovy and scruffy and. All that
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and you think Even de naro, and stuff those who
became the, leading man and this guy was just like
even when he tried to slub, it up he couldn't.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Do it just.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Was impossible eastwood and you know all the, old ones
it's like, it's.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Sad but, you, know right but he did such cool
things and was so for the independent films and THE
and i feel follow, the, Crowd NO and i feel
like like the Whole sun dance now has BECOME like i. Got,
commercialized right, you know they're going to keep certain, films
out not certain. Films IN but i Felt Like robert
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redford's point was exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
What we're, talking.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
About exactly every voice needs to, be heard every art
needs to. Be seen everybody has a point of view
that should be have an opportunity to be seen by
as many. As possible you get to choose whether you
want to see it. Or not but let's, put it
give it a platform that's a little bigger than, You,
KNOW hey i made a movie come to, my.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Backyard, exactly right exactly it's and it's also when you
think of how did the movie come out in the,
First place where did that inspiration? Come from what is
the whole purpose of having? The movie and just like
what you just Said about, robert referred everybody's individual, you
know and give them the chance to make. A, movie,
es yes give them the chance to actually, express themselves
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because it's all. About individuality but it's also. About oneness
and now think of. That oneness we're all. Human beings
we all have to make, a living we all have
to breathe and take care of, our families if we,
Have families and it's all about survival and what is
the way you want. To survive do you want to
be positive or do you want to? Be negative do
you want to be happy or do you want to
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keep going and doing the same thing and feeling?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Not?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Happy exactly and then so that's where the mental stuff comes.
Into play, you know. The consciousness what you're thinking is
what you get and if you can change, everything around
if you look at situations like you're talking about your
uncle about, the resentment where do the resentment?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Come from by, the way not a. TRUE story i made.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
That up that's good to let.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
You know no one. Grated anybody you. Know what there
may be a Little TRUTH and i think.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Of, that well it could be it could be a
female that you were talking. About, IT NO i i
just thought.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
OF it I just i could. See this there's. A picture,
never mind that's. So funny it's all.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
About relationships it's about how, you interact just like with
the couple in the, very beginning, you know him going
On on friday night not being. With her, it's, like
okay let's look at the real. Issue here she didn't
feel heard or listened to or. Important enough and, it's
like that's what, it's about. You know it's every relationship,
is important. Every relationship and also sometimes we don't respond
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well to those people because of all the stuff that's
going inside, of us whether it's our resentments or anger or,
the jealousy.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
The, envy yes.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
And it's, all about, you know, looking, good right and
what or where's the fear coming? To Play if i'm not,
looking Good if i'm, not accepted where does that come.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Into play it's it's so funny that we're talking about
this because as you're, SAYING this i remember my father
SAYING when i was a, young guy, you know and
you had girlfriend or something or somebody, you liked and he,
would say you never not want to. Need, somebody yes
you want to want to be, with them but you
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don't need. Them EXACTLY and i DON'T think i ever
really understood what. That MEANT and i think a lot,
of times, you know we hear about codependency and what
does that BECOMMON and i don't know that all codependency is.
Necessarily bad some people can have a beautiful codependency and
really be. Very healthy it's the way you look, at,
It yes but a lot of times. Codependency ISN'T it's
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i need you to react, this WAY or i know
you're going to react, this Way so i'm going to,
do THIS but i need you to do THIS so
i can do you KNOW what.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean and, it's like don't it great to have spontaneity?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And, change yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
That's that's what. It's about it's about changing and, you
know spice things, up right, you know and not an
your relations and that's. Called growth and where did you get?
That idea maybe it came from so. And so and, it's,
LIKE no i was, just thinking, you know we don't
spend as much, time together let's, do this so let's
do something fun. Or, whatever right, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
All about if what about how does quantum energy play
into all?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
This too quantum energy is the energy of our? Electromagnetic field?
All right so heart math is about your heart pumping
and the love that comes, from that and that they
actually prove that, in, many many. Many ways but the
easiest way of to explain about a little girl that,
was murdered, all right and her heart was put into another,
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little girl and that other little girls started to have
a nightmarors, and stuff and they were able to trace
back the killer from the first girl because it was
all about love in, the energy. All RIGHT so i
know it's, it's scary but it proves that the heart
has a memory exactly has the brain of. Its own
and that's why a lot of controversy is when people.
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Have TRANSPLANTS am i going to like the same food
that that? Person DID am i going to do the
same person same thing that that person? Lived by yes?
And no yes. And no and it's really about understanding,
that energy quantum energy is how, we live how, we're
alive and we have to have the elements from the
earth to. Do that in, other words, the air, the water,
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you know the food that we get and in the
heat heat from. The sun so it's all connected with
our Frequency On. Mother earth now when you think about above,
all right so they always talk about well where does gravity?
Come from where does the air? Come from, you know
so if you bring those, two together bring the, two
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together and where does a join in the chakras in the,
heart chakra which is, Number four so there's, seven chakras
three above and. Three below the three below is the
connection to, the earth your. Survival techniques that's why the
a lot of people don't want to take action is
because they have the fear of, taking action so they
stay stuck and their life. Gets miserable when you go into,
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the heart you, always love you can, never love will
never die ever and, in spirit, all right we always to.
All that religions talk about staying in love and the
higher frequency. Of love what? Is love it is the
love of, our creator whatever you choose to think. It
is but why are? You HERE as i said as a,
little girl WHY am? I here where do we? COME
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from i said that my soul knew that as a.
LITTLE girl i came up with that actual question to.
My mother she. Didn't know she, Didn't know but it
wasn't until YEARS later i went through to. Understand it
how the quantum connection with the divine whatever you want to,
call it and our relationships on earth and how we
live as humans. Is connected. Is connected heart math is
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about making that connection of the way, we think the way,
we talk and also re building resilience against things that
no longer. Serve, us yeah no Longer service in, other
words the stress in, our life the relationships in, our
life how we respond to somebody and heart maths is
about different quick coherence technique where you go, with inside
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just get quiet and bring the focus to your heart
and you bring that by things that you love like, your,
children oh, you, know, anything podcasting doing being who, you are.
Having fun you think of it and as you think,
of it it comes your heart. Variability rate so it's
electromagnetic field of. The body quantum energy is the frequency
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of how we bring that energy into our bodies and
how it responds to.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Our, bodies okay so what would be a beginner version
of maybe manipulating That energy that doesn't require like a,
physics degree you Know what, I'm saying like you can
sort of manipulate.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
This energy that's the.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Consciousness field the energy that's coming out. Right now, you
know you know whether it's lover, or fear or whether
it's good or bad or, you know good, and evil
that type. Of stuff but everybody is. Seeing changes it's
called the paradigm shift. Of consciousness in, other words the
energy of the way people are thinking. And living their lives.
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Are changing and when you TALKED, about covid about all,
the changes the preservatives and the money making, from that
but it happened way. Before that it had to, start
somewhere and us, older ones the, wise ones, all right we're,
all wise but we can look back and see, the
changes and that's why we see it. SO clearly i
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didn't see it as a. LITTLE girl i see, It
now but it was all those life EXPERIENCES that i
had to build that wisdom and also to make. Different
choices that's, not working, You know i'll. TRY this i,
was like, oh no that didn't work it? Back then
why was a different person? Back then i'm NOT who
I Am now i've got more wisdom, To, say okay
that's not. Really working let's. Change it let's. Change it
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and it's the same as, a serendipity the energy within,
the field the people that are coming into, your life
and why are they coming into? Your life and you
know it just like the education that you're talking. About,
now yeah it's like you don't know why is because
maybe it's time for. The change it's part of.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
The, growth yeah that's.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Knowing inside it's INTERESTING because i look at other changes
and other people that have sort of entered, my life
and it somehow all seems to, line up like the
way they, say something and and the, you.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Know as, you shift as, you shift your.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Sounds terrible BUT you i can't think of a. Different
analogy you, shed people you, shed things.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Change, your energy you change. The frequency think about your
mom with. The reiki what is.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
REIKI doing i don't know if she's an End, life okay,
so no IT'S about i. DON'T think i think that
is just, SIMPLY well i. DON'T know i think it's, her,
Energy right but she doesn't, touch you she just hovers.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Around you there's different ways through some. People do it's
all about the body, getting, balanced homestasis. All right the
body knows how to take care. Of, itself yeah, all
right but it has to have the ingredients to. Do
that so it's all about bringing. THE conduit a practitioner
is a conduit where the energy is coming, through them
the energy where the, Quantum energy how is it coming?
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Through them they're, breathing it it's going into. Their heart
it's their intention of helping the. Other person so we're
just conduits that go into the person's, chakra areas which
is part of the quantum energy that's coming through and
if the body is ready. To heal it's all about the,
person's choice but it's about your intention of trying to.
Help them and so reiki is a passive energy where
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the body starts to change and fuel all this stuff
and wants. To change it has to do with a
person's wanting. To change it's all about. The consciousness so
there's a lot, of.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
This like our own. Self work, FORGIVE me i HAVE a.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I forgot you have a chord here that's not. Coming,
OUT no i have.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
A CHORD that i need. Over here let's say there.
We go, that works.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
THAT'LL work i know it's, it's deep, it's deep but it's, all,
connected yes with your thoughts and how. You respond but
it does sound like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
This stuff HOW do i say this without sounding, you know,
you know like where. YOU would.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think a lot of it is. The individual you
have to, go, Inside right it's an.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Inside, job everything it's.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Inside job so when you're having, reiki done is it
working or does it?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Not? Work?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Now, WORK no, I Understand but i'm, just saying like
there are people WHO walking i didn't, feel, Anything okay
but is that your resistance to it and not? Recognizing
it and is? Their yes and if you go in, and,
Go boy i'm having a hard time here. LINING up
i need something that's going to. Help me that conduit
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can help you get back into. Your flow but you
got to go inside exactly and Recognize who i'm having
a hard, time here and. That's it and if it's,
not reiki if it's, talk therapy if it's.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
If, it's, massage, therapy acupuncture, you know hands, on healing,
you know pastors. Or, whatever yes it's in what's. Happening
here it is the flow of quantum energy. Coming through and.
The intention that's a. BUZZWORD too a lot of people
don't know what. Intention, means well it has to do
with what's? Your agenda what do you really want? To
achieve are you trying to? Manipulate somebody are you really
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trying to? Help somebody and the same. WITH ourselves, i
mean are we going to have a reiki session because
my wife wanted me to have it and this is
the only way to save, the marriage OR DO i
i really? ENJOY it i just it's my. TIME piece
i used to say, YEARS ago i was so being
in the, dentist chair, just relaxing just. Totally ozoning now
is the TIME that i was able. To relax it's like.
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You're kidding in the. Dentist chair it was a time.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
For, me yeah, You know and now that sounds. VERY
weird I think i fell asleep in the dentist. Chair,
once yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
It's the way we look, at it but it. Could be,
you know as, a child you were tortured going to,
the dentists and, so no don't go to the. D
yes RIGHT when i was, a phlebotomus it was the same,
thing about, you know getting blood, work done and if
the parent has had the terror over and, the trauma
they put it onto. The children oh he's just, like me,
you know he's just. Like me he's gonna and the
other kids, kids, Going, no mom here we. Go again
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and then all of, a sudden the mom passes out
and then the child or the person child because it
was it wasn't anything that was done. To them it
was the fear of the issues and, the tissues the
imprint of the energy that was in the. Cellular, structure
yeah it's all about choices going.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Inside, energy yeah and so many things that we have
in life are learned learned behaviors exactly or, learned reactions
which really then goes is it nature?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Or nurture and how did you?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Learn it when did you? Learn?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
IT yeah i was?
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Really, Young yeah and what was it? Going on, it's
like you know the. School system, you know, years ago
we learned how, to, read write and, the rhythmic it
be able to, do multiplications, you know to be able to.
Quantitly think and now it's like the they have to
have the they have to have, the computer they have
to have the calculator to figure out. Things, out yes
and it's like in the same but, The cursive why
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did the cursive? Go away and just printing? Come out
so it's like those are the changes that we've seen over.
The years why did? THAT happen i. Don't, know well
it's a change of the frequency of what's happening in.
The earth it's also, good evolution but it's also what's
the agenda? Behind it what is the intention? Behind it think.
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About THAT so covid was a, paradigm shift a shift,
of consciousness meaning things are going. To, change yeah but
it had to lead up to that, to change just
like evolution, in medicine what we knew two hundred years
ago is not what we. Know now and why did
it speed up so quickly in the last one, hundred
years the last? Fifty, YEARS yeah i. Don't, Know yeah
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well that's the change. Of energy how is it? Coming
in and it has to do with the actual energy Of,
the earth the frequency Of, the earth and also How
the sun is transmitting, the energy the heat down to our.
Electromagnetic field how do we respond. To, things see it's.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
So weird because it sounds, so, whoah, yeah, yeah yeah
but it's. All, scientific yeah it is because it's. All
here this is the stuff that. IS here i, always
say you never truck anything. In, here well.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If you look at, THAT though i think, about that
if you're looking at your evolving and you're coming up
with proof that as, we're evolving just like we didn't come.
From apes and the reason why we have twenty two
chromosome instead of twenty four like the apes is it
has to do with a. Higher frequency it has to
do with, our, Creator right and a lot of people
don't want to believe that is because they have the fear,
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of something, you know blockage. From religion, you know it's not.
About religion it's about your inside connectedness of who you
are as a. Divine being why are? We here where
do we? Come? From, right so if you take a
look at, all that you can see the changes starting.
To happen and it just. Didn't happen it's been evolving for.
Some time the reason why it might not want to
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evolve to the truth is that it would people wouldn't.
Make money people would have. To change the books would have,
to change the chiefs would have, to change the education
would have. To change and a lot of, people say,
OH no i can't. Do that i'm ago. All right
so it's all. About people what is scientifically THAT'S what
i like about the scientists that Really, go okay let's
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look at all the new things that are, coming out
and a lot of times the new things have, been
out but society would let them out because then it.
Would change what would? It change it would change, the
academics it would change the financial people who were getting
who were controlling or get profiting from it wasn't going
to profit anymore because then everybody could. Do it. Everybody
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knew and that's exactly what going back to being authentic,
all right going back to we all have the power to.
Connect within we all are part of a. Bigger picture whatever.
It is we came. From somewhere but it's the miracle
in science of how, a seed, you know an egg
and his ferm come together and. It forms how did?
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That happen how did? That happen so when you go back,
to science you can you can talk about the sacred
geometry and the molecules and atoms and how life. Actually
developed that's where we, can see we. Understand, it however intention,
and agenda where are they going to go? With this
JUST LIKE ai ai, is good it's the intention of
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the person that is produced IN. The ai but there
is there's negative and positive there we go with the
love and, the fear negative, and positive good, and bad
and it's coming out now and it's the change of
humanity and. IT'S good covid was good allowing people to
really take a look. At themselves it also makes them
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want to do, something different force them to do, something
different have, the children but it also impacted the children's
learning you did and them having, the socialization having them
growing in. The wisdom there's a lot of bad.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
About, it yeah, there is.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
There is and now we are. Experiencing it we are.
Experiencing it as far as what's happening, right now it's all.
Inside job you got to. Go inside it's about, staying happy,
you know staying in the. Higher frequency the higher frequency
is always is.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
The CASE and i try to say, to people it's
like an athlete being in. The. ZONE right i can't
miss a shot on the, basketball court, ALL right i
throw a dime on the, you know right to, the
player and it's how do you get there and? Stay
there and that's where athletes have sports psychologists to all
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these things to help their mind. Stay SHARP and i
think we're starting to see the benefit of the mind
like keeping the mind healthy almost like. A WORKOUT like
i have a friend who has a business and he
calls it the Mind. Fit jim and the idea would
be that you could get a membership and if you
wanted to go into a, group class you could drop
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in a, group class and if you wanted to do
a game, or something but it was all about keeping, your,
mind yes.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
And building those neurons. And transmitters and the more, you
do the more you can. Stay active, you know it's
when you don't, use it you. Lose it it's in anything.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Sports, mind well, You know and then we talk about
things like and you can kind of think, about this
but we hear often words like depression.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
And, Anxiety yeah i'm not saying that they're. Not real.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
They are but sometimes taking a when, you're depressed you
don't want to. Do anything, you know you don't want,
to move you don't want to get, a, bed right there,
ARE times i mean you could really be and it's
it's THAT'S where i think sometimes it's the inside job
is again to go in and like, you said my, legs,
work right my, Legs work so take a.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Walk exactly enjoy, the sunshine do.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
Something, different yeah take, a look it's not work and do.
Something DIFFERENT but i don't. Want to? Why not it's because,
you know and it's really, the, fear yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Of change it sounds it's really in.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
A way the more we talk and the more we,
SAY it i feel like it's a very, simple thing
and we complicate it a little bit because you know
in terms of like if, you're depressed, you know take,
A walk.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Well take, a walk but or just take. A, pill.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah well see that's the.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Easy, THING yeah i know that's the red pill or the,
blue pill but where's the. Violet pill where's the? Violet
pill it's about the violet pill is a out making
your own choices what works, for you and then realizing
the choices that you make and how it affects. Other
people it's the same as understanding in. Your field what
you're thinking is what you're going to. Project outside and
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if you go into a room to somebody you've had
an argument, with before what's immediately going to? Come up
probably the argument exactly instead of tret. A minute, all
right we both learned from. That situation, You know i'm
not going to do. That anymore that's a. Learning opportunity
but also shaking somebody's hands Is like i'm. Really, sorry
yeah taken accountability.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
For it sometimes, Right too like, YOU know.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
I don't i certainly would never say, to, somebody oh
don't have.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
The medicine don't have. THE pill i think it can.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Be a tool to help you maybe get past the
initial EMOTION of i just want to lash out at.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
This, person well what happens if the person is really unhappy?
With themselves what do? They do they go off and
tell somebody else what just happened. To you and then,
it's like, you know the gossip and the character assassination
and build the energy so they don't have to look. At,
themselves right that's what it's.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
About it but sometimes it would it would be fair
to say that the medicine gives you a chance to
sort of pause and.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Look inside, oh yeah JUST like i feel like.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
That's almost like a well, a barrier like you can't do.
It yourself so here's a tool that may help.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
And get and thank god we are, advancing technology we can. Do,
that yeah but it's where is? It, overdependence well that's the,
worry that that's the whole and that's where we've seen it.
All happened the same. With labeling when you're going to
when we talk about, labeling people you're not going to
listen to them, because oh they're just a drug addict
or they're just an alcoholic. Or, whatever right, it's like
where is that? Coming from why is a? Person drinking
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why is a person doing? The drugs it's usually the
anxiety and, The, depression yes so they don't have To
feel it's the same. With smoking every time you take,
a drag it calms the. Emotions inside it's.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
Breathing exactly smoking is, just, breathing.
Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah exactly so you know you can, you know dissect
it or whatever and understand the thing is understanding from
an intellectual point, of view and, Then, saying okay that's
not working for. Me anymore i'm going. To change i'm
going to. Do different why aren't you? Doing different Is
because i'm caught in. The fear i'm caught in. The
fear so when that, door closes look at it as
(44:16):
an opportunity to, do different And, thank god this IS
what i was going to. Pray for it's exactly what
you were praying to, Help me, help me, Help me
and all of a sudden the opportunity, comes by but
you don't. Realize it you think it's it's going to
be a. Bad, thing really it is the door that
you need to take to open to. Move forward and
that's where the gut feeling. Is inside go inside and
(44:38):
ASK should i take? This JOB should i? DO this
i don't know what, to do but you have to.
Train yourself it just. Doesn't happen and a lot, of
PEOPLE why i Pray to god and. Nothing's, HAPPENING okay
i Pray. To god. It's you You.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
Are god you are the power, within yea just like the,
song says the power, within exactly and you do and
you need to step in into. Your LIFE and i
think it is sometimes.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
That simple but we.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Complicated with things and, they, GO well i can't. DO
that i got to get over here or the kids
or this.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Or that but sometimes but it's making.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
Balance balance it's, about, balance okay and Also, Compromising okay i'll,
Do this i'll. Do that let's that's called, a relationship
a healthy relationship because everything changes every. Single, day yes
you have to be ready for. The changes and then
what you were talking, about, compartmentalizing right and what you
have to do same with multitasking women with multitasking men.
(45:34):
With compartmentalizing it's the. Same thing and what is really
good is when you put, it together when you put
it together and work together as a team as. A,
Partnership right and that's what we, all want. Don't we
you don't want to, be, alone, No, right however it
doesn't mean that if you're alone that you're, not happy.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
Because NO and i think you have to have that
security in yourself.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
And where do you get that to?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
Do that from you got to.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
Get, it yeah so it's, ALL well I think i
think we've just solved the world.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
PROBLEMS here i don't know that.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
You know what it's all about what you put. Out there,
you know if you're going to look at things as,
you know, being bad then that's what's going to come.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Towards you and IT'S like i agree, with, That, hope yes.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
Me too excitement and the light is that there's always
light at the end of, the tunnel as, THEY say
i think.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
SO too i also think that in a very weird
thing of, you know there are a lot of things
that have been said, so well but let's, say, religiously
right let go And. Let, god yes that's, One, right.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Okay that's what recovery work is.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
All ABOUT and i think that that's a really. GOOD
thing i would say to Anybody that i'm not completely
sure that human beings are capable of.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Unconditional love i'm, not.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
SURE but i am pretty sure that the universe loves
all of, us unconditionally absolutely unconditionally one with. The divine
so all that means is whatever you believe it will.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
SUPPORT exactly i don't have enough it will support. THAT
exactly i, have enough it will.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Support it be happy with what, you, have yes and
Gratitude lists. I'M happy i can open my eyes.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
And, see well it's funny that you, say that because,
they go, all right that's. So simple but.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
When you say me to keep, it, simple no but.
You're right and when YOU said i have legs, THAT
work i started, To think oh, MY gosh i watched,
my father who used to run and do all, this stuff. Fall,
continuously yes and his legs. Didn't work they just his
body wasn't. Working anymore to get up.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
AND go i. Got this this is. A gift this
is a gift.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
To exactly AND when i share all The things i've,
been through all the tragedy, and trauma and my family
will die and watching them die and important things, in
life doing, hospice work the honor, of it seeing the
decline of a person and feeling sad because you knew
who they. Were before but also it's, about you you
having compassion for your. Fellow man have compassion. For, yourself first,
(48:04):
go within find, peace within and then you can give.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
It out TELLTHERS and i have this weird, thing, like
oh you never get, it done you never get. It
wrong to stop beating yourself up ABOUT oh i shouldn't have, done,
that decisions beating.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
Yourself up you never get.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
It wrong it's all about learning and it's. A ride
and at the end of, the ride you're. Not done
you're just done in, this body this, this machine.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
This machine and that's why it's a crude way to.
Put it but all we are are pumps, and, pipes
right you KNOW what? I mean think. About it how
many people do you know how to stint put in? Their?
Heart why because the pipe was.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
Clogged exactly and when they talk, about ascension everybody talks
that's a. Buzzword. Too ascension people think they're going to die,
Right now they're going to sound Just like. Jesus. Did
no ascension is building a higher frequency, withinside yourself in,
other words your spiritual knowing inside. Your abilities and that's what's,
happening now the shift. Of consciousness where is the connection?
(49:07):
Between spirituality and when they hear The, Word, god jesus boot,
or whatever what are they going to react? Towards it,
you know it's all about not naming anything or putting
a label, on anything but really about going inside and
feel the power that you have inside and you can
take that power with you when you, pass over because
(49:28):
your soul. Never dies that's the difference in. The industry we'll.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
See that THAT'S what. I BELIEVE and i, think sometimes,
YOU know i don't want.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
To remember i'm a. Minister, PERFECT yeah i don't.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Want TO what i was going to SAY is i
don't want to shit, on RELIGION and i, certainly DON'T
but i think that SOMETIMES if i think it would
be hard to argue that it wasn't a form. Of
control and if you look At The catholic church and
all the things that went on and the people whose lives,
were damaged yes by action that people took where they
(50:02):
covered up and they hid and they, did it and
it was all about control and property and taxation and
you know.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
All This and i'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
There aren't good people in, that religion learning that come
right with with. Proper intent i'm just saying that maybe
you need to step back and go it's really about
again the inside job you are.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
YOU are i really.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Think the Message of jesus was. Messed up did you
KNOW that i am? The way no be, like me
be like you are, like me go. Like me you have,
this power you have it all in you.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
And have compassion and have compassion, Exactly exactly. So cool there.
Speaker 2 (50:41):
You go what else is happening In.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
Sh what's going on? WITH me a lot of different
things here once, a month The first wednesday of. The
month i'm actually part of a conscious psychic development class at. My,
Treasure Yeah mythic treasures is a metaphysical Store, In henriette
Henrietta On. Jefferson road and mythic is everything about things
(51:05):
you can't see, type thing but it's really About love
god however you want to. Practice it of course it's
got the bad name of woo, woo stuff but it's.
Really not and so this class is. Psychic development class.
Is free and the actual Owner Of, Mythic Treasurers, sue
stevenson actually wanted three of us. Spiritual people we all
come from different walks, of life. All right We Have,
(51:28):
lady shirah which is she actually is, a coach a,
witch coach. All right It's, not wika it's, not pagan
it's like. Her own she's. A reverend it's about, shadow
work but the light in. The dark then we have an,
Actual Medium colleen irwine spiritualism and You Know lily dale
(51:52):
and all the other stuff and, reading People and i'm more,
than metaphysical not a, physical meaning the spiritual part of who.
We are word do we? Come from what's? Our divinity
and the three of us have a different way, of
communicating but it's all. The same it's all about who
are you inside your? Spiritual development how can you? Recognize
it and everybody learns in a. Different way JUST like
(52:14):
i don't, like TOMATOES so i eat. Something else, you
know we all have a different flare in, the buffet
a buffet, of life and sometimes you like food one
time and you. Don't another it's all about. Growth too
so that's The first wednesday of. The month we just
started this. Past, Month also i'm spitting all over myself theorry. About,
THAT also i do private events, all right on all.
(52:37):
Different topics, all right you can go to my website
and check all. That out but that is a lot
of people just want to talk it over with, their friends,
you know have a, get together have me come in
for a couple hours and let's talk. AND questions a
lot of people, Have questions so THAT'S what. I, do
also OF course i, have yeah and OF course i have,
my sessions individual sessions where. We talk we, talk about,
(53:00):
you know what's no longer serve you and let's get.
Them OUT so i do energy work. On them but
it starts, with talking just like listen to you into
me c having that intimacy to want to share what's really,
going on because a lot of times to go, to
professionalism IT'S like i don't. Want that what time? Is it,
you know see you? Next week it's, like no let's
let's look on tools that you. Can use and that's
(53:20):
the difference being a. Metaphysical minister it's about things unseen,
all right and how can you change? Your life and
then OF course i have my classes integrated energy therapy
where you can actually learn how to do this, on yourself,
you know bring your consciousness field up and then also
unity field healing is about tapping into this higher divine
(53:42):
quantum energy that's here now.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
And you can find all this and.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
Then met cartmath. TEACH you i can teach you how
to do, heart math building yourself resilience, against stress changing
your variability rate of calmness so that in any situation
you can become or you can think about it before
for keeping the calmness and not letting your blood. Pressure
rise a healthy it's about doing yoga but without having
(54:07):
to do a stretch. Or whatever. You KNOW so i
have a COMBINATION and i do all this, stuff myself,
YOU KNOW i i. HAVE to i have sessions on
myself all the time with, other people and ALSO when
i give a session, TO somebody i get healed at
the same time because my emotions and stuff comes. Out
too and That's the that is the connection with, the
compassion the figure eight energy quantum energy coming through the
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earth and how, you react think and behavior. On, people right.
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