In this wide-ranging and thought-provoking episode of Billified, Bill welcomes Dan back to the studio for a conversation that veers from casual to deeply reflective—and everything in between.
Bill kicks things off by admitting he completely shut down for a day, opting for sleep, snacks, and couch time. Dan says that’s not just okay—it’s healthy. From there, the conversation heads to Iceland, where Bill’s sister just rolled a snowmobile—with her 13-year-old daughter on the back—on a glacier. She’s bruised but unbroken, and the trip sparks a debate: extreme adventures vs. Disney, which offers more value?
The topic of relationships surfaces as the guys dive into the Billy Joel docuseries on HBO Max. Billy’s on marriage number four, and it prompts Bill and Dan to explore whether true companionship is worth another shot after failed relationships. Bill opens up about his views on intimacy—how it’s not just sex, but soul-deep connection.
As legendary Buffalo Bills coach Marv Levy celebrates his 100th birthday, the discussion shifts to health span vs. lifespan. Dan shares insights into supplements and staying well longer, not just living longer. That philosophical vibe continues as they explore the concept of forgiveness, religion, and whether we ever truly forgive—or just move on because nothing is that important in the grand scheme.
Later, Bill shines a spotlight on Stevie Nicks—her music, her love life, and why society judges women differently when it comes to relationships. You’ll hear the story behind her collaboration with Tom Petty and how some iconic rock songs got their names.
From rock stars to real-life safety, Bill questions whether modern-day “security theater” at public events actually makes us safer—or just feel safer. And as local summer festivals heat up, they ask: do you avoid events out of fear?
Wrapping up, Dan worries about the Buffalo Bills’ long list of soft-tissue injuries before the preseason has even started.
This episode has humor, depth, and more than a few unexpected turns. We’d love to hear your thoughts—jump in and join the conversation!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
Bill kicks things off by admitting he completely shut down for a day, opting for sleep, snacks, and couch time. Dan says that’s not just okay—it’s healthy. From there, the conversation heads to Iceland, where Bill’s sister just rolled a snowmobile—with her 13-year-old daughter on the back—on a glacier. She’s bruised but unbroken, and the trip sparks a debate: extreme adventures vs. Disney, which offers more value?
The topic of relationships surfaces as the guys dive into the Billy Joel docuseries on HBO Max. Billy’s on marriage number four, and it prompts Bill and Dan to explore whether true companionship is worth another shot after failed relationships. Bill opens up about his views on intimacy—how it’s not just sex, but soul-deep connection.
As legendary Buffalo Bills coach Marv Levy celebrates his 100th birthday, the discussion shifts to health span vs. lifespan. Dan shares insights into supplements and staying well longer, not just living longer. That philosophical vibe continues as they explore the concept of forgiveness, religion, and whether we ever truly forgive—or just move on because nothing is that important in the grand scheme.
Later, Bill shines a spotlight on Stevie Nicks—her music, her love life, and why society judges women differently when it comes to relationships. You’ll hear the story behind her collaboration with Tom Petty and how some iconic rock songs got their names.
From rock stars to real-life safety, Bill questions whether modern-day “security theater” at public events actually makes us safer—or just feel safer. And as local summer festivals heat up, they ask: do you avoid events out of fear?
Wrapping up, Dan worries about the Buffalo Bills’ long list of soft-tissue injuries before the preseason has even started.
This episode has humor, depth, and more than a few unexpected turns. We’d love to hear your thoughts—jump in and join the conversation!
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/billified-the-bill-moran-podcast--5738193/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice mix.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
In some vodka.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
(00:32):
Thank you for getting your pawn on, Thanks for telling
a friend, and that's how we spread the word about
the pirate ship. My man, it looks like you escaped
from prison to days ten stripes everywhere? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
As jowing out?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Billy man, I gotta tell you, like I completely I
never do this. I mean I completely shut it down.
Like I I didn't do anything. I didn't do laundry,
I didn't. Oh, I did food off a little bit.
I guess I did that, But I mean I really
(01:04):
just shut it the flip down. Yesterday I slept and
I rested, and I there's a part of me that
always feels guilty because if I were to being honest,
there is a lot of shit that I got into
and I got it too fast, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
But you know what though, if you do that for
six days, you're allowed to take a seventh day off.
That's the idea.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, but I don't know. I'm just saying, like
so today it's like I gotta get back in it
got my list going yet anyway, I don't want to
get too weird.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Good you got, you got. You took a day off.
Shut it down the first day off you had what
like four years, I don't know, it's quite a while.
You can't remember, that's the point.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But I've shut it down like that. You know, I've
shut it down like that. But then I uh, I
mean part of a text thing like my sister will
not take her kids, she and her husband will not
take them to Disney, and it's a big It's like
a big deal because I think the kids are now
(02:06):
of an age where they are curious and want to
go and other friends there's have gun but instead they
do these trips. So they are leaving Iceland and on
their way to Copenhagen, and then from Copenhagen they're going
to the beaches of Croatia. And my sister sends a
picture this morning of her hand. They were on a
(02:27):
snowmobile trip on a glacier and I guess they were
going fast around a hairpin turn and I'm thinking it
was her daughter was on the back of the snowmobile
and she leaned the wrong way, Yeah, because you want
to lean into the turn, not out of the turn.
And I think tried to lean out of the turn
(02:48):
and it ended up flipping. And my sister's hand is
all banged up. Man, it's bad. It looks bad. And
she said her shoulder. No she's an oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, she's gonna answer.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They were leaving and heading wherever they are next. But
I'm like, damn, I mean it looks bad. It like
it looks really banged up in bruise, man. And here
and I'll show you, like this is it? This is
from the snowmobile.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, it's pretty puffy, isn't it. It's like what somebody
blows up a glove and somebody blows up like a
prophylactic not a prophilectic glove, like a rubber glove, and
then like you know, like, oh look it's a it's
a balloon. That's kind of what it looks like your
little fingers hanging out.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So I'm like, oh, Disney would be a little bit better,
wouldn't They had to show off and go go to Iceland,
goofy like August. That sounds like it is kind of
it's a it's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
God blessed they have the money to do that because
Iceland's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, they got Yeah, they got the means.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I always thought it was funny, like you go to
the beaches of Croatia, like they just whenever they settled
their land, agree with Bosny. It's like, okay, we get
to keep the coastline. So if you ever look at
a map of Croatia, it's like Bosnia is getting the
stiff arm from the ocean, like, no, you can't get
our beaches.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The beaches of Croatia are supposed to beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, well they kept it together.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't know what the uh. I've never been beaches.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
In basketball that's a Croatia's known.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I wouldn't even think of the beaches of Croatia like
I saw on the CBS Sunday Morning Show this morning.
It was I think it was like repeat stuff that
they were just kind of recycling by summer. Yeah, I
think I saw excuse, man, I think I saw some
of this already. But they were doing a woman who
(04:36):
has a bucket list, right, and she's checking all these
things off her bucket list, and there was even like
an eighty something. You're a woman who wanted to go
one hundred and thirty miles an hour in a car
around a racetrack, and so she got to drive one.
And I guess the AARB has like its own make
a wish Seriously, I don't know, it's like if it's
(04:57):
before I die or I'm not sure what it's called,
but it's like it's like it is. It's it almost
has the same logo. It's like, make a wish for
old folks. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. I guess that's.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The people in the middle that suffer.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, So she got to to do the thing, and uh,
but this other lady doesn't. I got it. I wouldn't
put her. I put her my age, maybe a little
bit older. And she's been to seventy countries. She tries
to check up all this stuff off her bucket list,
and she's probably single, which I always go, wouldn't you
rather have somebody to do that stuff with? You know,
(05:32):
I'm I'm realizing that having somebody who I guess I
never really knew the term partner in a relationship, you
know what I mean? Yeah, But somebody that you can
lean on they can lean on you. Well, yeah, but
it goes deeper and that and that the intimacy because
(05:54):
a lot of a lot of us when we go
well they were they were rather intimate. We know what
that means, right in terms of sexual stuff. But to me,
intimacy is so much deeper. It's knowing the feelings. It's
being able to sort of read the energy of the person.
It's having a connection that goes beyond like sex sexual stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Being able to sort out.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Sex you can have with anybody. Intimacy, I don't think
it can.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, being able to sort off their pills.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, or there are supplements or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, But funny, you were overdoing it, aren't we. I
hear that every week.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, we're going to get into that to the little Islex.
It's coming up on this episode, trust me. But the
I when I'm watching that, I go, boy, wouldn't you
rather have somebody to do all this stuff with? That
you can have these adventures that you can talk about
remember when we were blank or that funny thing that happened,
because you know, and it's just somebody to share it
(06:47):
with me.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't know, like what I would be able to, like,
I've bet that. I have gone on several trips. In fact,
we're going to later this month, we're going back to
New York. Uh huh to watch the Yanks. Terrible but anyway,
we're gonna watch them. But I can't imagine doing that
by myself without having somebody with me to sharing those moments.
You know, there's nobody else i'd rather be with, And
there's nobody else i'd rather share that with than her.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
She doesn't say the same thing. There's no I'm I
have no idea. But yeah, I was getting text last
night from the Killers. Oh really yeah? Greg? No, no,
but Greg was Greg was in the picture but not no,
oh yeah. And then I got other people videos. But
(07:31):
I didn't see any Buffalo bills there, Okay, I don't.
I don't think they. I saw the song being performed,
but I did not see a bill on stage.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
A lot of people were afraid to go because of that.
They thought it would be a crap show with the
bills and everything else. And I'm like, I just go,
Who cares.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
They did do a thing where they dropped like red
and Blue Confettia did see that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's cool?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh, in support of the Bills, But I did not
see whether or not. I didn't see any Bills players there.
And they had practiced this morning, and I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Are they're practicing when I drove by.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah so, But I but to have somebody to do
all this stuff. But I go, man a bucket list
like Croatia isn't a place I go. I want to
go to the Maldives.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't remembere that is, I'm not sure I do either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It looks so you're up Asia Asia, Okay, yeah, it
looks great. And then there's some place called the Mexican Maldives.
I'd like to go there, you know, I'd like to.
But I have a lot of plans. I I don't
know if it's the urgency of someone like my dad
(08:35):
dying or it or what it is. It's been this
way for a little while for me. But I feel
like now I'm inspired to take action where I not
necessarily was for a while. Yeah, I can't understand, you
know what I mean, Like you're all of a sudden,
You're like, well, fuck it, I gotta I gotta, I
gotta do it. I just gotta go do it. I
just gotta make I gotta make it happen. But uh yeah,
the Croatian I wouldn't think of doing. Yeah, when you
(08:57):
and Beth travel, is it a is it a good thing?
Is it a thing?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's a good thing? Yeah, although she does leave me
around like a seeing eye doc.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
No, no, no really yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Because like me, I'm just kind of like looking around it. No,
don't cross the street here, Yes, that's where in Austin once. Yes,
that's Vince Young's bar. That's great, yo, let's let's stop
watch the crosswalk. Okay, now let's cross the street. God. Yeah,
because I'm like I'm in Austin, Texas, like, oh, look
at this, oh Stevie ray Vaughan. Oh yeah, that's great, Honey,
we need to cross the street now. No wait, wait,
(09:27):
hold on, hold on, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I guess you found the right person. Yeah, right, like
she yeah, you know, as long as she doesn't mind
doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's like if you were a billy Joel saw she
sorts out my pis. Yeah, make sure I eat right.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's funny. I watched The Billy.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I Don't get hit by cars in the night.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I watched The Billy Dole. The second half of the
Billy Joel document document documentary. Well, I was gonna say docuseries,
but I guess documentary is the right term because I
don't think there's any more after this thinking because it
says on your Thing, season one, episode one, Season one,
episode two, I didn't realize he's now married a fourth time. Yeah,
(10:08):
And it was weird because the Christie Brinkley. I must
have dozed off as to how that dissolved, because that
seemed at least well, look, she was doing a lot
of what we do today in the eighties. She had
a camera on them a lot, just personal video. There
are times that that woman doesn't even have makeup on
(10:29):
or she's not made up like a model. So it
wasn't a vanity thing. I think it was strictly because
she just loved being around him and really liked him
and all this stuff. And I think it was the
drinking that really ruined the marriage, his drinking and almost
ambivalence to things. And she loved going on the road
(10:50):
and taking the kid on the road. I mean she
talked about it, she goes, I loved our road family.
She seemed like a really cool woman, like just you
know what I'm saying because don't forget. It's like she's
a supermodel, you know what I mean. She could get anybody.
She could get anybody, and for whatever reason, she chose
to spend her time with you. And I don't know happened.
(11:12):
But then he gets married after that, and it was
some young chick that I forgot he was married to
and she's just like and the drinking continued.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, he didn't stop, didn't he crash his car and
then Christy like put out some heartfelt message to get
him to stop drinking. After like this is like, oh
he's in the third marriage.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But then that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But here's the thing I had. My question is like,
because I go, I know people who say to me,
I would never like I've had I've heard more women.
I haven't heard guys say this so much. I know
I would never tie in with a man. Again, doesn't
mean I wouldn't be in a relationship, but I would
(11:55):
never tie with a man, which makes me go, hmm,
what you say. But others have said, yeah, I would
never be in another relationship. I don't want to be
with anybody, and I don't know what that is. I
feel like part of your longevity is the connection to people.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, like they say, people who are married live longer, right.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And I think I wonder if Billy Joel's still alive.
Here's the fucked up part. Like you know, his one
of his songs I absolutely love is Vienna Waits for You,
And it was really that's where he found his dad.
His dad just disappeared when he was a kid, that
his parents divorced and his father, you know, went back
his I think his great his grandfather had escaped through
(12:41):
Switzerland because they were Jewish and they were living in
Germany and they identified as Germans but they knew and
so they got out through Switzerland and the old his
old man was over here and just did not like
America to felt like there was still anti Semitism and everything,
and went back and lived in Vienna and had got married,
had another kid. Yes, Billy has a brother, brothers, and
(13:03):
that guy's a conductor of a classic, like a classical.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Or in the family.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yes, yes, And then don't forget Billy Joel did his
own classical album.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I remember him being on Letterman and Letterman saying to him, so,
I guess you got enough money then, because he's like,
he goes, uh, you know any new albums or anything
like that. He goes, now, I've been working on some
classical music. He goes classical music. Really, so I suppose, uh,
you got enough money? Then he gets no, one fine, right.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Wait, well, didn't he lose a ton of money too?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Think I don't know his probably no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes.
It was his ex brother in law was his manager.
It was the previous administration's brother who he stayed friendly
with and let operate. But the guy was buying Christie's Like,
we would travel, we would be up in Maine. They
would go to Maine a lot. Billy liked Maine, and
(13:53):
so they were up in Maine and somebody's like, hey,
you just bought property by us. You just did this.
She's like, no, he didn't know. He didn't. And then
she's like, Billy, something's up. And he had an audit
done and I it was millions, millions, And that's when
he's like, I gotta go back on the road. I
got a tour. I gotta do this. And I think
that really put a strain out.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And then and then like the part did they cover
this in the documentary that he had to fire all
his bandmates and bringing new people. He is that was
covered and hired Gun.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
We're all hired gun. And it makes it look really ugly.
They are softer in this one, but it was she
probably had no. It was a new producer who said,
I love the singer, I love the writer of the songs,
I love the piano player. I don't like anything else. Oh,
he said, I feel like the band is just going
(14:42):
through the motions. And he goes, I want to bring
in my own guys, and he brought in different guys
and yeah, and you even see. I was gonna say,
Tito Torres, isn't he the drummer for Bonjovisico tores Ico Torres?
But who's there? I thought there was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Joey had a bassist they had to fire because he
just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, but I'm trying to think this is the drummer
of Billy. Joel is in the document docuseries and he
talks about when they he covered him.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He kept him along for for longer than the rest
of them, maybe, and eventually he said goodbye to him too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
No, I think they all got it. Looked like they
all got the acts at once.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, no, no, most of them got the accent. He kept
the drummer. And then the drummer went on a couple
more tours, and then he starts getting calls like, you know,
our friend Greg always gets calls for tickets from people.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
This guy was like, hey, you got Billy Joe's go
back on tour. Can you get me tickets? He goes,
he is, and that's how he found out that Billy
Joel had moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They pulled him along for a while, then they got
rid of him too.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
All right, I don't I'd have to see. I did
probably doze off because.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It was only so much. This is from this is
from the Hired Gun documentary. That's where I got this yesterday.
I just and no drinking, know anything. I just want
that made abundantly clear.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But that's a true day. Here's my question. Can you
get if it didn't work out three times in a marriage?
Are you going for number four?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Depends if you're addicted to having somebody?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, but couldn't you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just as Taylor Johnny Carson, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I understand, but why the marriage piece? Why not just
have some lifelong companion.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why not Brick Flair tried to do it? Even that
blew up?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Why not? Goldie Hawn's style isn't isn't Olie Han? Goldiehan?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Go to Pittsford and look around. You're gonna see a
lot of oldie. But wouldn't you know? I don't know.
I'm saying, like, would you try to stay with somebody? Look,
you're more of a religious guy than I am.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm a Christian.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You could say that, yeah, But I was gonna say
religious in terms of, you know, uh, the sanctity of
marriage and that sort of thing. I I don't know
where I stand. I think marriage should be respected as
a union. I'm not saying I would never get married again,
and that's not that's not the case. Uh, But I
(17:01):
I would even if the person said to me, why
don't we just live together, I'd be like, all right,
I'd be cool with that. I don't need the thing.
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And here's where I've come to with forgiveness and now
and and you tell me, well, no, I'm you don't
love me anymo. I think that I don't. I'm not
a big fan of the term forgiveness. I think things happen.
(18:51):
I don't think people ever really forgive. I think we
can get over it. I think we can have a
different perspective on the situation. I think that sometimes people
use really people like I don't know, Bill Moran. We
were saying all the great things about bills, but they
can be real assholes and can use very coarse language
(19:12):
when they're angry. And that's something that that can really
cut to the quick of people.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
A lot of bills, I know, like alcohol, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And but I think also, like you know, all of them, Oh,
there isn't one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Even Billy Buffalo the other day had a beard in me. Yeah,
he was over at Thirsties.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah. Listen to Billy Joel talking to babes and having
a beer. Yeah. So I think, like I I, yes,
I believe we can move past things and like pick
up and realize whatever happened happened and it doesn't matter.
But is that what forgiveness is? Because I think some
(19:53):
I think a lot of people want this big maya
culpa of I'm so sorry that I blah blah blah,
when you know maybe you are maybe aren't. I know
that's a big part of recovery for people. Part of
the twelve steps.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Is six step.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I don't know what number it is, but they go
and they apologize for wrong things, and I guess it's
just recognizing what you did. But to me, I think
time and distance. I mean, even in the Billy Joel documentary,
he wound up stealing his buddy's wife and then tried
to commit to a suicide twice after that and then
(20:29):
married the woman so and and they were hurt. The
guy goes, yeah, I was hurt for a while. But again,
I go, do we say forgive because that's the only
word we have. Do you really forgive or you just
realize you know what that was then and I don't
care and my life turned out great, or maybe all
everything happens for a reason, and I still really care
(20:52):
about you, I still love you.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is deep. This is deep because you know it's coming.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
This is how my head.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, mine can't help a spiritual perspective because I've had
a look at this too, Like if I haven't forgotten
about what's happened to me, does that really forgiveness? And
the Bible says yes, because you've got to be aware
of what somebody is capable of, so that you don't
trust them beyond you forgive them. You let it go,
You let it go yourself. Jesus forgave you by dying
on the cross and runting again, so now you need
(21:20):
to forgive everybody else. Okay. At the same time, you
still need to be aware of what that person could
be capable of, so you don't trust them with those
feelings in your heart, with this emotional bank account that
you had, that you don't put too much stock in
them because they can hurt. Like the expression fool me
twice fo me wants shame on you, fool me twice,
shame on me, or as President bush Onance said, you're
not gonna film me in a second time, you know,
(21:41):
so you gotta be aware of those things. Like Billy
Joel may have forgiven. I'm just using this as an example.
He may have forgiven his ex brother in law who
stole all his money. But he's never gonna trust him
with his money again.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think so there is this fine line you can
forgive people like I hope people forgive me for all
the stupid things I've done. Remember, yeah, I'll give you
a story.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You did.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh dude, I know, I know. Oh gosh, just I
don't even want to remember it, but I remember. Actually,
a couple of weeks ago. I don't even think the
guy realized that I'm getting in the elevator. My wife
is playing in a Bob Seeker tribute and you have
to take an elevator to go up to this place.
It's called Whiskey's Upper Deck. And the guy in the
(22:25):
elevator who hops on with his young blonde girlfriend is
the same guy who my ex wife that's a round
with on me. Whoa, yeah, wait, he may have known
it was me in the in the elevator.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The guy she left me for.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh really, yeah, he wasn't that young though, he's all sixty. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
He was like fifty something when it happened. Oh okay,
I mean, he's probably beyond sixty. He looks good.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
He's got a young blonde chick.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Now, yeah, yeah, she's at least she's younger than me.
I know. The I don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So kissing cousins.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Look like a daughter.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I and I remembered like that, and I laughed about it,
like you know, I like, I remember, I was so
angry with this dude. Yeah, but then I realized, what
all the stupid things you've done in your life?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, it's not that. It's like I think, a lot
of times we get mad at the at the wrong person. Yeah,
in that situation, it's your wife. I get. I got
a guy who wants to write. You know, we're all men,
the best of men are men at best. We all
do stupid things, and we're given the same set of circumstances.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
How many of us passed the test?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Right? I got a situation in my life that of
I can't no, well yeah, recently I guess that I
just go. I don't want that situation anymore. It doesn't
work for me, you know, and all this stuff. I
have no ill will towards anybody, but I just go.
I think boundaries are healthy and that's the difference. Like
(24:03):
I can forgive, Yes, I understand, but I get it.
But but but but this is the bound.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But it reminded me. It reminded me, and I'm like,
you know, you should just tell him thank thank you.
Well you just tell him thank you, Yeah, because he
did you have favor. Well yeah, if we just looked
at forgivenesss hey, thank you for the lesson. Yeah, well
that's all it is, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
For the lesson it is. That's always.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Guess what I've hurt people too in my life, intentionally
or not. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And so I'm so stupid.
I put my Lord and Savior on a cross, and
he forgave me and brought me into his family. I
I can't, dude, I can't hold a grudge against anybody
at that point.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I always think that you never get it wrong, no
matter what's happened, you never get it wrong. We we
live and things go on and and the other part
of that is you never get it done. As you're
an eternal being, you're going to go on and on
and on in some form. So I don't try to
(25:06):
sweat these things too much. I would think that your
feelings are your your guidance, you know when something's right
or wrong. I think you need to honor your feelings.
I think a lot of times people are staying relationships
too long because they don't want to hurt somebody, and
then that just makes everything worse, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I stayed in a relationship like way too long once.
Yeah it's like you you know who. I mean, it
was like years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But we I just think like after a while, you
start to see and the most attractive thing I think
for anybody is someone who doesn't. My dad used to
say to me when I was a kid, you shouldn't
need anybody, but you to want to be with that person, right,
So you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Need them, right, and you should need anybody right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And so I think a lot of times yeah, I mean,
and I always say and I said it as funeral,
and I've said here is I you know, I always
appreciate the time people give you. They don't you don't
know how much time you have or won't have on
this planet. As we were there saying go about it,
my dad, I said, you know, I appreciate everyone, everybody
(26:14):
who came here today for giving you the gift of
us the gift of your time. But I I'm not.
I don't know when it comes to forgiveness and stuff,
it's like, yes, I think it's a nice concept for
humans to absorb. I just don't think it's really there.
I think we just move past thing. I think time
(26:34):
here's the thing. There is you ready, You're ready for
fucking weird. There is no time. It's always now. It's
always right now, yeah, always yeah, right. So there's no time.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
There's no time like a president.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Not no time like the president. There is no time.
It is always right now. That's a whacked out thing. No,
I get it, Okay. So everything thing we see and
everything we do is from a different perspective. So when
you're looking at a situation, you're looking at it from
(27:10):
a different perspective. You're older. We know we can say
twelve of the time, but you're a different it's a
different perspective on things. And I think that a lot
of times when we say time and distance heals all wounds.
I think that's really true because you have a different
perspective and you look back and go, God, that was silly.
I was so angry about that. And that's why I
(27:31):
think a lot of times. You got to go deep
inside yourself and find the beliefs and the things. And
I did not expect it to have any of these
conversations today, Dan, find those things that are stopping you,
blocking you, the beliefs that you have, and realize some
of it's bullshit. How many things have happened where you
look back and you go, what was I doing? What
was I thinking? Oh? Was I so angry about this?
(27:52):
Why was I so stupid? I'll tell you what. I
look back at our time together doing a show, and
there are times now where I wish I had laid
down my sword against management a little bit, just a
little bit, because they weren't bad people. No, they weren't
bad people at all.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They were a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
They're just just trying to, you know, do a thing
and protect And I come in fucking hot and I'm
gonna and I'm hot, and but I was pissed because
for whatever reason anyway, it doesn't matter, but maybe it
was misplaced anger. And I look back now and I go, yeah,
I wish I because you had relationships, you wish you
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Billy joel AND i always, go it's a man of,
passion is my. Joke it's a man of, passion, right,
Yeah but would you say that of a. Woman and
this is where.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You can well should be able.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
To we should be able.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
To we would be of double standards for.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Everybody BECAUSE i was, like, Okay so my, initial as
my sister would probably, say my, initial missagnistic thought Was, god,
damn she fucked. Everybody i'm laying, there and THEN i,
STARTED i took it, deeper AND i, GO i think
she just fell in LOVE i think she really is
an artist and feels and had a connection to people
(30:52):
because the song By Tom, petty see she wanted to
be a. Heartbreaker so uhuh let me go back.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So i'm not just stop dragging my heart.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Around came from, well let me let me, okay, no, no,
NO i want TO i don't want to go all
over the place BECAUSE i. Will uh let me just
finish this. Story So Jimmy iveen says to, her we
don't have a, single and he Said Tom. Petty he,
Goes i'm working On Tom petty's album as. Well he
has a song that he wrote for. You and she's like,
(31:25):
okay and he, goes why don't you sing it with?
Him and she said, okay and she so they flew To. Florida,
NOW i, thought because don't forget WHEN i had to
do classic rock around the, country it's not LIKE i
always love. Interactions so WHEN i did afternoons locally AND
(31:47):
i had to play, MUSIC i would also grab phone
calls AND i could do stuff with. People, RIGHT i
could play with. People can't really play with people When i'm,
recording you, know A friday morning show that's going to
run in six or seven markets on A. WEDNESDAY i
can't get your live calls in, there SO i would
and a lot of it was classic, rock SO i
(32:08):
would talk about the, music AND i thought that this
Song edge of seventeen was the title came From Tom
petty's first, wife who had such A southern accent that
When Stevie nicks met, her she said, went how long
have you And tom been? Together and she, says since
(32:29):
the age of? Seventeen but it sounded like the edge of. SEVENTEEN, ok,
right you see What i'm. Saying So i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Any age of seventeen could be, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah but the SE's where she got the title From
edge of. Seventeen so now she goes and records the
song With Tom. Petty but the Song Don't Come Around
Here No more By Tom penny and The, heartbreakers.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's About Stevie.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Nicks yeah you didn't know, that? No oh.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah so the only THING i know about that song
was THAT mtv made him cut part of the do
you he looked too he looked too strange cutting the,
cake the alice In. Wonderland he's cutting The yeah don't
come around, Here, no don't come around here No?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
More, Okay, so, okay there it. Is there there was a. Stalker,
no so no it's not look up who wrote the
song with? HIM i think it was a member of The,
Eurhythmics Dave. EDMUNDS i Think Dave edmunds was a member
of The. Eurhythmics So Dave edmunds gets the The rhythmics
(33:32):
land In. La they're they're getting, around meeting other people
and going to these. Parties Stevie nicks would have these big,
parties and she was Dating Joe. Walsh Was Dave, Stewart Dave, Stewart,
Okay Dave, stewart Not. Edmunds, okay So Dave. Stewart So
Dave stewart goes to her to her party and winds
(33:55):
up like passing out in a bedroom and wakes up
at five am to Dv knicks trying on all these different,
clothes which would be Like alice In. Wonderland, okay thus the,
Reference and all of a sudden the doorbell rings and
It's Joe, walsh who was not at the, party and
they get into a huge fucking argument at five. Am
(34:19):
she's screaming at him and, goes don't come around here
anymore and that's where the title of the, song and
it Was Dave stewart From The rhythmics wrote that With Tom. Petty,
yeah fucked up as that, right And i'm, like holy,
Shit Don, Henley Joe, Walsh Lindsey, BUCKINGHAM i, Think Mick,
Fleetwood Jimmy, Iavey.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Oh, yeah, yeah like there was some bed hoping going.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
On BUT i take it back because it's very easy
to make the knee jerk assumption of a lot of bed. Hop,
no he, SAID i think that she literally each time
had very strong, feelings maybe not always in, love but
had very strong emotional connections to these. PEOPLE i, think,
WELL i think that that could be part of. IT
(35:05):
i would love or you love the.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Life and here's WHAT i mean by. That Fleetwood. Mac
people don't know. This Fleetwood mac had sixteen different members in.
It The Fleetwood mac that's in The rock And Roll
hall Of. Fame The Fleetwood mac that we know today
Are Lindsey, Buckingham Stevie, Nicks Mick, Fleetwood john, McVie And christy. McVie,
okay but before, that there were no women in the. Band, Okay,
(35:28):
yeah this is the this is the final rendition of the.
Band and what happened was when they decided to Add
Lindsey buckingham to the. Band he, says, Well i'm not
coming Without Stevie. Nicks we're a package. Deal so they
Asked christy mcvi if she's. Okay says, yeah it would
nice to be have another friend in the, band a
girlfriend in the. Band so then, now So lindsey was
kind of her meal. Ticket he wrote all the, song
(35:49):
she just sang. Along she was his. Girlfriend then all
of a sudden they become bigger and. Bigger all of a,
sudden he's got wom the clawn at. Him she's starting
to get, fame and all of a, sudden now now
you're living this. Life he was her meal tik it
for a. While i'm not saying she didn't have her own,
success but she basically was long for the. Ride now
all of a, sudden she in the hall. TWICE i
don't know if she's in the hall, TWICE i don't
(36:09):
know she got inn. Solo The Rocker hall Of fame
is a.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Mess, YEAH i, AGREE i HAVE i have a whole.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
SEGMENT i could do on. That but SO i think
that like all of a, sudden like if he was
the meal. Ticket, now who do you do you go
after other powerful? Musicians?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah because what was her? Talent Who stevie's?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Really, well she looked, good but she sang with such
a nasally, voice.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But it was. DISTINCT i, mean, look Fucking Bob, dylan,
Please But Bob dylan wrote his own stuff though he
was wearing A.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah later on with maybe some quick wick.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
HELP i. LOVE i JUST i think she had a
very bohemian way about, her AND i think there was
a lot of we could call it the free love.
Era i'm not sure that it's the free love, era
as much AS i think she had a deep connection
to every person she was involved. WITH i really do
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Jose Luis Torres barrios does he play for The? Mets,
no he. Doesn't he got arrested at Finger. Lakes, oh
AND i don't think he's a jockey. Either i'm not sure.
Though go, on but he's thirty four years. Old he
(40:26):
got arrested and had to be physically removed from the
bar section by security after a verbal. Altercation he allegedly
threatened to go, home make multiple explosives and use them
to blow up the casino as well as the people.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Inside that's an automatic you're going to j, now hang, On.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I'm, thinking did you lose? MONEY i, mean only at Finger?
Lakes could you lose three hundred dollars in the slot
machine and fucking lose your? Mind? Right that's enough State New.
York that's A Western New york. Thing, yes BUT i,
go so here's my, question And i'll put it this.
Way the guy makes this, threat do you Think Jose
(41:07):
Luis Torres Barrios AND i, KNOW i, KNOW i, know
we always have to. SAY i think his name is
longer than the explosives he has in this. HOUSE i
don't think there are explosives in this. HOUSE i don't
think he has the ability to do. This BUT i
get it because now we, go, well he's, threatened, right
and well if we didn't do, anything and then something, Happens.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah it's like the backpack at the, airport, Sir.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah you know WHAT i. Mean BUT i, go is
this security theater or real? Safety and there's a piece
of me that is starting to say AND i get,
it it's post nine to, eleven but we're twenty, six
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Years Of Silver anniversary at.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Eleven AND i, go at some, point it feels like
security theater to, Me like this guy makes a threat
inside a, bar at a. Casino he probably lost, money
he's agitated at whatever. HAPPENS i don't. Know they don't
give you much more on the, incident BUT i, go
what really happens behind the? Scenes when someone makes a terroristic,
(42:16):
threat we could say that that would be a domestic terroristic. Threat,
sure and what are casinos prepared? For and here's WHAT
i started to. THINK i, GO i have talked to
The Fairport police And i'd love to get them back
in here doing compcast. Again we haven't done that in a.
While but if you talk To Chief Matt, barnes the things,
(42:37):
like you, know what's coming up in a couple of
weeks is The Fairport Music. Fest they have, drones they
have other. Agencies there's people just WALKING i saw. THEM
i saw undercover, guys AND i, mean you're not that.
Undercover but they were in like playing. Clothes one had a,
backpack one had another. Thing well they're big muscle dudes
(42:58):
walking Around AND i, go so there's no way two
dudes ripped with muscle, right are just walking around canal
days because they're looking for a shepherd's hook to hang
their potted plan. On you don't understand What i'm, Saying
like it ain't happening that you stand out like a short.
Thump it's nice to know. Exactly it's, like, oh stained,
(43:21):
GLASS i want a bird? Bath, Yea oh do you
know what we need and it's like my wife would love.
THIS i get this in. BLUE i just, Uh i'm
glad they're. There but do you ever THEN i have
to take it to us as, individuals like we we
say what do we say earlier about our? Healthcare you
have to be THE ceo of your?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Health?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay so do we have to be THE ceo of
our safety as? Well should we be? Aware AND i
THINK i think to, myself fucking, know BECAUSE i don't
want to live. PARANOID i don't AND i don't think
about this. SHIP i don't think about this ship at.
All and MAYBE i don't think about this ship Because
i'm a middle aged white guy and nothing's gonna happen to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Me, yeah that's a good point being you know What i'm.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
SAYING i, mean. Nobody, look no one's looking to rape,
me no one's looking to rob, me no.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
ONE i also, think, like, okay to bring it back To,
Jose Maria olethabo, Here.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Luis Teros, Berrio, okay Torres, Berry.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay so don't you think, that Like, okay there's police
officers and in their security okay, security like want to be? Police? Really,
Okay so when you sign up to be. Security oftentimes
you look for those moments where you can look like
the big hero so to. Speak, right so, like, ah
there's nothing to. Fear he like that That George zimmerman,
dude that was a guy who on a power trip
(44:40):
Murdered Trayvon martin got way carried. Away but sometimes security
can get carried. Away and Now i'm not saying this
guy shouldn't have been. Arrested he's making. Threats but What
i'm saying is that like they will make a bigger
show out of it than what needs to be.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
WELL i WOULD i made know exactly what you're, saying
and it does make you go if you heard that
guy at the, bar do you take him? Seriously? Right
do you? Say here's WHAT i would. Go it's Like i'm.
Staying If i'm sitting with, SOMEBODY i go all in
for dinner and a show to because you know there
(45:15):
is somebody's gonna come and slam them to the ground
and rest. Them and YOU i can't imagine that this
was a soft, arrest but you got.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It it's like THE wwe all of a, sudden here
come the security guards with the, cops but they With
Steve austin steam hits.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
People, go, well freedom of speech, first terroristic. Threats you
can't yell. Fire you can't yell fire in a. Theater
you can't Say i'm blow this. Up you just. Can't
so it's not a blurry edge. Between but it is
a blurry edge when a person's, drunk do we do
we take into consideration the? Drunk you throw him? Out
(45:52):
how is he getting to his? House was he there
with somebody who can take? Him you know WHAT i?
Mean and what and maybe he does have? EXPLOSIVES i don't,
know you, know it comes back with a comes back
with a couple of bottle rockets and fires him off
At edna gets hitting the. Ass oh you.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Won the.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Slots no.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Reverse by the time you listener get this, Tomorrow tuesday
will be the debut Of Hard knocks and everybody will
be like tweeting this one. Up please can we wait
till the end of the episode before we start tweeting?
Along but in all, seriousness because everyone's gonna offer their.
Opinion i'm SURE i will offer mind to So i'll have.
Thoughts i'll have a lot of thoughts, coming you, know
WHEN i come back on the. Podcast BUT i want
(46:36):
to talk about, this this and. This, uh but like
the wide receivers are pretty banged. Up you got a
lot of guys begged up for just playing touch football.
BASICALLY i, mean, yeah there's some contact and. Stuff, yeah but,
uh that's a lot of soft tissue.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Injuries, yeah it's a little, scary all, Right, well there's soft.
Tissue though nobody's done for the, season hang. Around they
haven't played preseason game.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yet you got fifty, guys they hang.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Around that's the problem with soft, tissue especially, hamstring, right
that stuff hangs around for a.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
WHILE i would just practice the third. Striggers but, then
like you, know the rookies got everybodys gotta get. WORK i,
mean it's it's gonna be, tough. MAN i know. THAT
i said before the season. STARTED i said their favorite
at every. Game so there's no excuse why they can't
go on the. FEED i didn't say they, would but
these are the reasons why you. Don't and every other
year The bills seem to lose five or six games
(47:29):
and have a rough. Ride and last, year you know
they had a lot of Take they lost three games
last year or four. Games the last one doesn't count
because it was At New. England they were just they didn't.
Care but it's gonna be a tough, year tougher year
than people think because people thought last year would be
the tough. Year this year is gonna be. Tough, man
with all these. Injuries if they keep hurting. THEMSELVES i,
(47:51):
know it's only like it's Only august, Fourth.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yes, yes it. Is just put everybody on the.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Shelf they'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
The first day.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Stuff because The yankees are oh they're.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Terrible do they do?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
It they're the Billy they're the dumbest team maybe in.
Baseball they're definitely the Dubbest yankee team. Ever there's the GM's,
dumb the owner's, dumb the manager's. Dumb the players are.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
DUMB i thought they went and got some. Closers they
all blew it On friday.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Nights they were.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Terrible they all they gave.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
Up they were up how many?
Speaker 1 (48:26):
Runs? Six ah, sports it's a great way to express
all your.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Interring the only thing they overshadowed that was it The
rockies came back and beat The pirates sixteen fifteen or.
Something The pirates or The. Pirates The banks are in. Trouble,
man they're not making a. Postseason maybe, no it's. Over
maybe's overdup it stop.
Speaker 1 (48:49):
It For Dan, Morillo I'm Bill, moran will see You
tomorrow
Speaker 2 (48:54):
And the Doc Flow murder a rat From Missus sibilan
and Almost miners
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice mix.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
In some vodka.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Colored a podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram.
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
(00:32):
Thank you for getting your pawn on, Thanks for telling
a friend, and that's how we spread the word about
the pirate ship. My man, it looks like you escaped
from prison to days ten stripes everywhere? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
As jowing out?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Billy man, I gotta tell you, like I completely I
never do this. I mean I completely shut it down.
Like I I didn't do anything. I didn't do laundry,
I didn't. Oh, I did food off a little bit.
I guess I did that, But I mean I really
(01:04):
just shut it the flip down. Yesterday I slept and
I rested, and I there's a part of me that
always feels guilty because if I were to being honest,
there is a lot of shit that I got into
and I got it too fast, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
But you know what though, if you do that for
six days, you're allowed to take a seventh day off.
That's the idea.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, but I don't know. I'm just saying, like
so today it's like I gotta get back in it
got my list going yet anyway, I don't want to
get too weird.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Good you got, you got. You took a day off.
Shut it down the first day off you had what
like four years, I don't know, it's quite a while.
You can't remember, that's the point.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But I've shut it down like that. You know, I've
shut it down like that. But then I uh, I
mean part of a text thing like my sister will
not take her kids, she and her husband will not
take them to Disney, and it's a big It's like
a big deal because I think the kids are now
(02:06):
of an age where they are curious and want to
go and other friends there's have gun but instead they
do these trips. So they are leaving Iceland and on
their way to Copenhagen, and then from Copenhagen they're going
to the beaches of Croatia. And my sister sends a
picture this morning of her hand. They were on a
(02:27):
snowmobile trip on a glacier and I guess they were
going fast around a hairpin turn and I'm thinking it
was her daughter was on the back of the snowmobile
and she leaned the wrong way, Yeah, because you want
to lean into the turn, not out of the turn.
And I think tried to lean out of the turn
(02:48):
and it ended up flipping. And my sister's hand is
all banged up. Man, it's bad. It looks bad. And
she said her shoulder. No she's an oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
No, she's gonna answer.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They were leaving and heading wherever they are next. But
I'm like, damn, I mean it looks bad. It like
it looks really banged up in bruise, man. And here
and I'll show you, like this is it? This is
from the snowmobile.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, it's pretty puffy, isn't it. It's like what somebody
blows up a glove and somebody blows up like a
prophylactic not a prophilectic glove, like a rubber glove, and
then like you know, like, oh look it's a it's
a balloon. That's kind of what it looks like your
little fingers hanging out.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
So I'm like, oh, Disney would be a little bit better,
wouldn't They had to show off and go go to Iceland,
goofy like August. That sounds like it is kind of
it's a it's a little weird.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
God blessed they have the money to do that because
Iceland's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yeah, they got Yeah, they got the means.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I always thought it was funny, like you go to
the beaches of Croatia, like they just whenever they settled
their land, agree with Bosny. It's like, okay, we get
to keep the coastline. So if you ever look at
a map of Croatia, it's like Bosnia is getting the
stiff arm from the ocean, like, no, you can't get
our beaches.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
The beaches of Croatia are supposed to beautiful.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, well they kept it together.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I don't know what the uh. I've never been beaches.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
In basketball that's a Croatia's known.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I wouldn't even think of the beaches of Croatia like
I saw on the CBS Sunday Morning Show this morning.
It was I think it was like repeat stuff that
they were just kind of recycling by summer. Yeah, I
think I saw excuse, man, I think I saw some
of this already. But they were doing a woman who
(04:36):
has a bucket list, right, and she's checking all these
things off her bucket list, and there was even like
an eighty something. You're a woman who wanted to go
one hundred and thirty miles an hour in a car
around a racetrack, and so she got to drive one.
And I guess the AARB has like its own make
a wish Seriously, I don't know, it's like if it's
(04:57):
before I die or I'm not sure what it's called,
but it's like it's like it is. It's it almost
has the same logo. It's like, make a wish for
old folks. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of cool. I guess that's.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
The people in the middle that suffer.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, So she got to to do the thing, and uh,
but this other lady doesn't. I got it. I wouldn't
put her. I put her my age, maybe a little
bit older. And she's been to seventy countries. She tries
to check up all this stuff off her bucket list,
and she's probably single, which I always go, wouldn't you
rather have somebody to do that stuff with? You know,
(05:32):
I'm I'm realizing that having somebody who I guess I
never really knew the term partner in a relationship, you
know what I mean? Yeah, But somebody that you can
lean on they can lean on you. Well, yeah, but
it goes deeper and that and that the intimacy because
(05:54):
a lot of a lot of us when we go
well they were they were rather intimate. We know what
that means, right in terms of sexual stuff. But to me,
intimacy is so much deeper. It's knowing the feelings. It's
being able to sort of read the energy of the person.
It's having a connection that goes beyond like sex sexual stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Being able to sort out.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Sex you can have with anybody. Intimacy, I don't think
it can.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, being able to sort off their pills.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah, or there are supplements or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Right, But funny, you were overdoing it, aren't we. I
hear that every week.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Okay, we're going to get into that to the little Islex.
It's coming up on this episode, trust me. But the
I when I'm watching that, I go, boy, wouldn't you
rather have somebody to do all this stuff with? That
you can have these adventures that you can talk about
remember when we were blank or that funny thing that happened,
because you know, and it's just somebody to share it
(06:47):
with me.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
I don't know, like what I would be able to, like,
I've bet that. I have gone on several trips. In fact,
we're going to later this month, we're going back to
New York. Uh huh to watch the Yanks. Terrible but anyway,
we're gonna watch them. But I can't imagine doing that
by myself without having somebody with me to sharing those moments.
You know, there's nobody else i'd rather be with, And
there's nobody else i'd rather share that with than her.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
She doesn't say the same thing. There's no I'm I
have no idea. But yeah, I was getting text last
night from the Killers. Oh really yeah? Greg? No, no,
but Greg was Greg was in the picture but not no,
oh yeah. And then I got other people videos. But
(07:31):
I didn't see any Buffalo bills there, Okay, I don't.
I don't think they. I saw the song being performed,
but I did not see a bill on stage.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
A lot of people were afraid to go because of that.
They thought it would be a crap show with the
bills and everything else. And I'm like, I just go,
Who cares.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
They did do a thing where they dropped like red
and Blue Confettia did see that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
That's cool?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Uh, in support of the Bills, But I did not
see whether or not. I didn't see any Bills players there.
And they had practiced this morning, and I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Are they're practicing when I drove by.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah so, But I but to have somebody to do
all this stuff. But I go, man a bucket list
like Croatia isn't a place I go. I want to
go to the Maldives.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I don't remembere that is, I'm not sure I do either.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It looks so you're up Asia Asia, Okay, yeah, it
looks great. And then there's some place called the Mexican Maldives.
I'd like to go there, you know, I'd like to.
But I have a lot of plans. I I don't
know if it's the urgency of someone like my dad
(08:35):
dying or it or what it is. It's been this
way for a little while for me. But I feel
like now I'm inspired to take action where I not
necessarily was for a while. Yeah, I can't understand, you
know what I mean, Like you're all of a sudden,
You're like, well, fuck it, I gotta I gotta, I
gotta do it. I just gotta go do it. I
just gotta make I gotta make it happen. But uh yeah,
the Croatian I wouldn't think of doing. Yeah, when you
(08:57):
and Beth travel, is it a is it a good thing?
Is it a thing?
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's a good thing? Yeah, although she does leave me
around like a seeing eye doc.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
No, no, no really yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Because like me, I'm just kind of like looking around it. No,
don't cross the street here, Yes, that's where in Austin once. Yes,
that's Vince Young's bar. That's great, yo, let's let's stop
watch the crosswalk. Okay, now let's cross the street. God. Yeah,
because I'm like I'm in Austin, Texas, like, oh, look
at this, oh Stevie ray Vaughan. Oh yeah, that's great, Honey,
we need to cross the street now. No wait, wait,
(09:27):
hold on, hold on, Well.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I guess you found the right person. Yeah, right, like
she yeah, you know, as long as she doesn't mind
doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's like if you were a billy Joel saw she
sorts out my pis. Yeah, make sure I eat right.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
It's funny. I watched The Billy.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I Don't get hit by cars in the night.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I watched The Billy Dole. The second half of the
Billy Joel document document documentary. Well, I was gonna say docuseries,
but I guess documentary is the right term because I
don't think there's any more after this thinking because it
says on your Thing, season one, episode one, Season one,
episode two, I didn't realize he's now married a fourth time. Yeah,
(10:08):
And it was weird because the Christie Brinkley. I must
have dozed off as to how that dissolved, because that
seemed at least well, look, she was doing a lot
of what we do today in the eighties. She had
a camera on them a lot, just personal video. There
are times that that woman doesn't even have makeup on
(10:29):
or she's not made up like a model. So it
wasn't a vanity thing. I think it was strictly because
she just loved being around him and really liked him
and all this stuff. And I think it was the
drinking that really ruined the marriage, his drinking and almost
ambivalence to things. And she loved going on the road
(10:50):
and taking the kid on the road. I mean she
talked about it, she goes, I loved our road family.
She seemed like a really cool woman, like just you
know what I'm saying because don't forget. It's like she's
a supermodel, you know what I mean. She could get anybody.
She could get anybody, and for whatever reason, she chose
to spend her time with you. And I don't know happened.
(11:12):
But then he gets married after that, and it was
some young chick that I forgot he was married to
and she's just like and the drinking continued.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yes, he didn't stop, didn't he crash his car and
then Christy like put out some heartfelt message to get
him to stop drinking. After like this is like, oh
he's in the third marriage.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
But then that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
But here's the thing I had. My question is like,
because I go, I know people who say to me,
I would never like I've had I've heard more women.
I haven't heard guys say this so much. I know
I would never tie in with a man. Again, doesn't
mean I wouldn't be in a relationship, but I would
(11:55):
never tie with a man, which makes me go, hmm,
what you say. But others have said, yeah, I would
never be in another relationship. I don't want to be
with anybody, and I don't know what that is. I
feel like part of your longevity is the connection to people.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, yeah, like they say, people who are married live longer, right.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
And I think I wonder if Billy Joel's still alive.
Here's the fucked up part. Like you know, his one
of his songs I absolutely love is Vienna Waits for You,
And it was really that's where he found his dad.
His dad just disappeared when he was a kid, that
his parents divorced and his father, you know, went back
his I think his great his grandfather had escaped through
(12:41):
Switzerland because they were Jewish and they were living in
Germany and they identified as Germans but they knew and
so they got out through Switzerland and the old his
old man was over here and just did not like
America to felt like there was still anti Semitism and everything,
and went back and lived in Vienna and had got married,
had another kid. Yes, Billy has a brother, brothers, and
(13:03):
that guy's a conductor of a classic, like a classical.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Or in the family.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yes, yes, And then don't forget Billy Joel did his
own classical album.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes he did.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I remember him being on Letterman and Letterman saying to him, so,
I guess you got enough money then, because he's like,
he goes, uh, you know any new albums or anything
like that. He goes, now, I've been working on some
classical music. He goes classical music. Really, so I suppose, uh,
you got enough money? Then he gets no, one fine, right.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Wait, well, didn't he lose a ton of money too?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Think I don't know his probably no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yes.
It was his ex brother in law was his manager.
It was the previous administration's brother who he stayed friendly
with and let operate. But the guy was buying Christie's Like,
we would travel, we would be up in Maine. They
would go to Maine a lot. Billy liked Maine, and
(13:53):
so they were up in Maine and somebody's like, hey,
you just bought property by us. You just did this.
She's like, no, he didn't know. He didn't. And then
she's like, Billy, something's up. And he had an audit
done and I it was millions, millions, And that's when
he's like, I gotta go back on the road. I
got a tour. I gotta do this. And I think
that really put a strain out.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
And then and then like the part did they cover
this in the documentary that he had to fire all
his bandmates and bringing new people. He is that was
covered and hired Gun.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
We're all hired gun. And it makes it look really ugly.
They are softer in this one, but it was she
probably had no. It was a new producer who said,
I love the singer, I love the writer of the songs,
I love the piano player. I don't like anything else. Oh,
he said, I feel like the band is just going
(14:42):
through the motions. And he goes, I want to bring
in my own guys, and he brought in different guys
and yeah, and you even see. I was gonna say,
Tito Torres, isn't he the drummer for Bonjovisico tores Ico Torres?
But who's there? I thought there was.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Joey had a bassist they had to fire because he
just wasn't.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
No, but I'm trying to think this is the drummer
of Billy. Joel is in the document docuseries and he
talks about when they he covered him.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He kept him along for for longer than the rest
of them, maybe, and eventually he said goodbye to him too.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
No, I think they all got it. Looked like they
all got the acts at once.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
No, no, no, most of them got the accent. He kept
the drummer. And then the drummer went on a couple
more tours, and then he starts getting calls like, you know,
our friend Greg always gets calls for tickets from people.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
This guy was like, hey, you got Billy Joe's go
back on tour. Can you get me tickets? He goes,
he is, and that's how he found out that Billy
Joel had moved on from him.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Yeah, so he was.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
They pulled him along for a while, then they got
rid of him too.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
All right, I don't I'd have to see. I did
probably doze off because.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
It was only so much. This is from this is
from the Hired Gun documentary. That's where I got this yesterday.
I just and no drinking, know anything. I just want
that made abundantly clear.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
But that's a true day. Here's my question. Can you
get if it didn't work out three times in a marriage?
Are you going for number four?
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Depends if you're addicted to having somebody?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, but couldn't you.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Just as Taylor Johnny Carson, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I understand, but why the marriage piece? Why not just
have some lifelong companion.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Why not Brick Flair tried to do it? Even that
blew up?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Why not? Goldie Hawn's style isn't isn't Olie Han? Goldiehan?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, what's his name?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Go to Pittsford and look around. You're gonna see a
lot of oldie. But wouldn't you know? I don't know.
I'm saying, like, would you try to stay with somebody? Look,
you're more of a religious guy than I am.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
I'm a Christian.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
You could say that, yeah, But I was gonna say
religious in terms of, you know, uh, the sanctity of
marriage and that sort of thing. I I don't know
where I stand. I think marriage should be respected as
a union. I'm not saying I would never get married again,
and that's not that's not the case. Uh, But I
(17:01):
I would even if the person said to me, why
don't we just live together, I'd be like, all right,
I'd be cool with that. I don't need the thing.
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And here's where I've come to with forgiveness and now
and and you tell me, well, no, I'm you don't
love me anymo. I think that I don't. I'm not
a big fan of the term forgiveness. I think things happen.
(18:51):
I don't think people ever really forgive. I think we
can get over it. I think we can have a
different perspective on the situation. I think that sometimes people
use really people like I don't know, Bill Moran. We
were saying all the great things about bills, but they
can be real assholes and can use very coarse language
(19:12):
when they're angry. And that's something that that can really
cut to the quick of people.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
A lot of bills, I know, like alcohol, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
And but I think also, like you know, all of them, Oh,
there isn't one.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Even Billy Buffalo the other day had a beard in me. Yeah,
he was over at Thirsties.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah. Listen to Billy Joel talking to babes and having
a beer. Yeah. So I think, like I I, yes,
I believe we can move past things and like pick
up and realize whatever happened happened and it doesn't matter.
But is that what forgiveness is? Because I think some
(19:53):
I think a lot of people want this big maya
culpa of I'm so sorry that I blah blah blah,
when you know maybe you are maybe aren't. I know
that's a big part of recovery for people. Part of
the twelve steps.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Is six step.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I don't know what number it is, but they go
and they apologize for wrong things, and I guess it's
just recognizing what you did. But to me, I think
time and distance. I mean, even in the Billy Joel documentary,
he wound up stealing his buddy's wife and then tried
to commit to a suicide twice after that and then
(20:29):
married the woman so and and they were hurt. The
guy goes, yeah, I was hurt for a while. But again,
I go, do we say forgive because that's the only
word we have. Do you really forgive or you just
realize you know what that was then and I don't
care and my life turned out great, or maybe all
everything happens for a reason, and I still really care
(20:52):
about you, I still love you.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
This is deep. This is deep because you know it's coming.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
This is how my head.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, mine can't help a spiritual perspective because I've had
a look at this too, Like if I haven't forgotten
about what's happened to me, does that really forgiveness? And
the Bible says yes, because you've got to be aware
of what somebody is capable of, so that you don't
trust them beyond you forgive them. You let it go,
You let it go yourself. Jesus forgave you by dying
on the cross and runting again, so now you need
(21:20):
to forgive everybody else. Okay. At the same time, you
still need to be aware of what that person could
be capable of, so you don't trust them with those
feelings in your heart, with this emotional bank account that
you had, that you don't put too much stock in
them because they can hurt. Like the expression fool me
twice fo me wants shame on you, fool me twice,
shame on me, or as President bush Onance said, you're
not gonna film me in a second time, you know,
(21:41):
so you gotta be aware of those things. Like Billy
Joel may have forgiven. I'm just using this as an example.
He may have forgiven his ex brother in law who
stole all his money. But he's never gonna trust him
with his money again.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
You know I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
I think so there is this fine line you can
forgive people like I hope people forgive me for all
the stupid things I've done. Remember, yeah, I'll give you
a story.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
You did.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Oh dude, I know, I know. Oh gosh, just I
don't even want to remember it, but I remember. Actually,
a couple of weeks ago. I don't even think the
guy realized that I'm getting in the elevator. My wife
is playing in a Bob Seeker tribute and you have
to take an elevator to go up to this place.
It's called Whiskey's Upper Deck. And the guy in the
(22:25):
elevator who hops on with his young blonde girlfriend is
the same guy who my ex wife that's a round
with on me. Whoa, yeah, wait, he may have known
it was me in the in the elevator.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
The guy she left me for.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Oh really, yeah, he wasn't that young though, he's all sixty. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
He was like fifty something when it happened. Oh okay,
I mean, he's probably beyond sixty. He looks good.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
He's got a young blonde chick.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Now, yeah, yeah, she's at least she's younger than me.
I know. The I don't think.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So kissing cousins.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Look like a daughter.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, but.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
I and I remembered like that, and I laughed about it,
like you know, I like, I remember, I was so
angry with this dude. Yeah, but then I realized, what
all the stupid things you've done in your life?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Well, it's not that. It's like I think, a lot
of times we get mad at the at the wrong person. Yeah,
in that situation, it's your wife. I get. I got
a guy who wants to write. You know, we're all men,
the best of men are men at best. We all
do stupid things, and we're given the same set of circumstances.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
How many of us passed the test?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Right? I got a situation in my life that of
I can't no, well yeah, recently I guess that I
just go. I don't want that situation anymore. It doesn't
work for me, you know, and all this stuff. I
have no ill will towards anybody, but I just go.
I think boundaries are healthy and that's the difference. Like
(24:03):
I can forgive, Yes, I understand, but I get it.
But but but but this is the bound.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
But it reminded me. It reminded me, and I'm like,
you know, you should just tell him thank thank you.
Well you just tell him thank you, Yeah, because he
did you have favor. Well yeah, if we just looked
at forgivenesss hey, thank you for the lesson. Yeah, well
that's all it is, and thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
For the lesson it is. That's always.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Guess what I've hurt people too in my life, intentionally
or not. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And so I'm so stupid.
I put my Lord and Savior on a cross, and
he forgave me and brought me into his family. I
I can't, dude, I can't hold a grudge against anybody
at that point.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I always think that you never get it wrong, no
matter what's happened, you never get it wrong. We we
live and things go on and and the other part
of that is you never get it done. As you're
an eternal being, you're going to go on and on
and on in some form. So I don't try to
(25:06):
sweat these things too much. I would think that your
feelings are your your guidance, you know when something's right
or wrong. I think you need to honor your feelings.
I think a lot of times people are staying relationships
too long because they don't want to hurt somebody, and
then that just makes everything worse, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
And I stayed in a relationship like way too long once.
Yeah it's like you you know who. I mean, it
was like years ago.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But we I just think like after a while, you
start to see and the most attractive thing I think
for anybody is someone who doesn't. My dad used to
say to me when I was a kid, you shouldn't
need anybody, but you to want to be with that person, right,
So you shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Need them, right, and you should need anybody right.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
And so I think a lot of times yeah, I mean,
and I always say and I said it as funeral,
and I've said here is I you know, I always
appreciate the time people give you. They don't you don't
know how much time you have or won't have on
this planet. As we were there saying go about it,
my dad, I said, you know, I appreciate everyone, everybody
(26:14):
who came here today for giving you the gift of
us the gift of your time. But I I'm not.
I don't know when it comes to forgiveness and stuff,
it's like, yes, I think it's a nice concept for
humans to absorb. I just don't think it's really there.
I think we just move past thing. I think time
(26:34):
here's the thing. There is you ready, You're ready for
fucking weird. There is no time. It's always now. It's
always right now, yeah, always yeah, right. So there's no time.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
There's no time like a president.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Not no time like the president. There is no time.
It is always right now. That's a whacked out thing. No,
I get it, Okay. So everything thing we see and
everything we do is from a different perspective. So when
you're looking at a situation, you're looking at it from
(27:10):
a different perspective. You're older. We know we can say
twelve of the time, but you're a different it's a
different perspective on things. And I think that a lot
of times when we say time and distance heals all wounds.
I think that's really true because you have a different
perspective and you look back and go, God, that was silly.
I was so angry about that. And that's why I
(27:31):
think a lot of times. You got to go deep
inside yourself and find the beliefs and the things. And
I did not expect it to have any of these
conversations today, Dan, find those things that are stopping you,
blocking you, the beliefs that you have, and realize some
of it's bullshit. How many things have happened where you
look back and you go, what was I doing? What
was I thinking? Oh? Was I so angry about this?
(27:52):
Why was I so stupid? I'll tell you what. I
look back at our time together doing a show, and
there are times now where I wish I had laid
down my sword against management a little bit, just a
little bit, because they weren't bad people. No, they weren't
bad people at all.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They were a tough spot.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
They're just just trying to, you know, do a thing
and protect And I come in fucking hot and I'm
gonna and I'm hot, and but I was pissed because
for whatever reason anyway, it doesn't matter, but maybe it
was misplaced anger. And I look back now and I go, yeah,
I wish I because you had relationships, you wish you
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passion is my. Joke it's a man of, passion, right,
Yeah but would you say that of a. Woman and
this is where.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You can well should be able.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
To we should be able.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
To we would be of double standards for.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Everybody BECAUSE i was, like, Okay so my, initial as
my sister would probably, say my, initial missagnistic thought Was, god,
damn she fucked. Everybody i'm laying, there and THEN i,
STARTED i took it, deeper AND i, GO i think
she just fell in LOVE i think she really is
an artist and feels and had a connection to people
(30:52):
because the song By Tom, petty see she wanted to
be a. Heartbreaker so uhuh let me go back.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
So i'm not just stop dragging my heart.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Around came from, well let me let me, okay, no, no,
NO i want TO i don't want to go all
over the place BECAUSE i. Will uh let me just
finish this. Story So Jimmy iveen says to, her we
don't have a, single and he Said Tom. Petty he,
Goes i'm working On Tom petty's album as. Well he
has a song that he wrote for. You and she's like,
(31:25):
okay and he, goes why don't you sing it with?
Him and she said, okay and she so they flew To. Florida,
NOW i, thought because don't forget WHEN i had to
do classic rock around the, country it's not LIKE i
always love. Interactions so WHEN i did afternoons locally AND
(31:47):
i had to play, MUSIC i would also grab phone
calls AND i could do stuff with. People, RIGHT i
could play with. People can't really play with people When i'm,
recording you, know A friday morning show that's going to
run in six or seven markets on A. WEDNESDAY i
can't get your live calls in, there SO i would
and a lot of it was classic, rock SO i
(32:08):
would talk about the, music AND i thought that this
Song edge of seventeen was the title came From Tom
petty's first, wife who had such A southern accent that
When Stevie nicks met, her she said, went how long
have you And tom been? Together and she, says since
(32:29):
the age of? Seventeen but it sounded like the edge of. SEVENTEEN, ok,
right you see What i'm. Saying So i'm not sure about.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Any age of seventeen could be, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah but the SE's where she got the title From
edge of. Seventeen so now she goes and records the
song With Tom. Petty but the Song Don't Come Around
Here No more By Tom penny and The, heartbreakers.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
It's About Stevie.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Nicks yeah you didn't know, that? No oh.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah so the only THING i know about that song
was THAT mtv made him cut part of the do
you he looked too he looked too strange cutting the,
cake the alice In. Wonderland he's cutting The yeah don't
come around, Here, no don't come around here No?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
More, Okay, so, okay there it. Is there there was a. Stalker,
no so no it's not look up who wrote the
song with? HIM i think it was a member of The,
Eurhythmics Dave. EDMUNDS i Think Dave edmunds was a member
of The. Eurhythmics So Dave edmunds gets the The rhythmics
(33:32):
land In. La they're they're getting, around meeting other people
and going to these. Parties Stevie nicks would have these big,
parties and she was Dating Joe. Walsh Was Dave, Stewart Dave, Stewart,
Okay Dave, stewart Not. Edmunds, okay So Dave. Stewart So
Dave stewart goes to her to her party and winds
(33:55):
up like passing out in a bedroom and wakes up
at five am to Dv knicks trying on all these different,
clothes which would be Like alice In. Wonderland, okay thus the,
Reference and all of a sudden the doorbell rings and
It's Joe, walsh who was not at the, party and
they get into a huge fucking argument at five. Am
(34:19):
she's screaming at him and, goes don't come around here
anymore and that's where the title of the, song and
it Was Dave stewart From The rhythmics wrote that With Tom. Petty,
yeah fucked up as that, right And i'm, like holy,
Shit Don, Henley Joe, Walsh Lindsey, BUCKINGHAM i, Think Mick,
Fleetwood Jimmy, Iavey.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Oh, yeah, yeah like there was some bed hoping going.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
On BUT i take it back because it's very easy
to make the knee jerk assumption of a lot of bed. Hop,
no he, SAID i think that she literally each time
had very strong, feelings maybe not always in, love but
had very strong emotional connections to these. PEOPLE i, think,
WELL i think that that could be part of. IT
(35:05):
i would love or you love the.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Life and here's WHAT i mean by. That Fleetwood. Mac
people don't know. This Fleetwood mac had sixteen different members in.
It The Fleetwood mac that's in The rock And Roll
hall Of. Fame The Fleetwood mac that we know today
Are Lindsey, Buckingham Stevie, Nicks Mick, Fleetwood john, McVie And christy. McVie,
okay but before, that there were no women in the. Band, Okay,
(35:28):
yeah this is the this is the final rendition of the.
Band and what happened was when they decided to Add
Lindsey buckingham to the. Band he, says, Well i'm not
coming Without Stevie. Nicks we're a package. Deal so they
Asked christy mcvi if she's. Okay says, yeah it would
nice to be have another friend in the, band a
girlfriend in the. Band so then, now So lindsey was
kind of her meal. Ticket he wrote all the, song
(35:49):
she just sang. Along she was his. Girlfriend then all
of a sudden they become bigger and. Bigger all of a,
sudden he's got wom the clawn at. Him she's starting
to get, fame and all of a, sudden now now
you're living this. Life he was her meal tik it
for a. While i'm not saying she didn't have her own,
success but she basically was long for the. Ride now
all of a, sudden she in the hall. TWICE i
don't know if she's in the hall, TWICE i don't
(36:09):
know she got inn. Solo The Rocker hall Of fame
is a.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Mess, YEAH i, AGREE i HAVE i have a whole.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
SEGMENT i could do on. That but SO i think
that like all of a, sudden like if he was
the meal. Ticket, now who do you do you go
after other powerful? Musicians?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah because what was her? Talent Who stevie's?
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Really, well she looked, good but she sang with such
a nasally, voice.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
But it was. DISTINCT i, mean, look Fucking Bob, dylan,
Please But Bob dylan wrote his own stuff though he
was wearing A.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah later on with maybe some quick wick.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
HELP i. LOVE i JUST i think she had a
very bohemian way about, her AND i think there was
a lot of we could call it the free love.
Era i'm not sure that it's the free love, era
as much AS i think she had a deep connection
to every person she was involved. WITH i really do
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Jose Luis Torres barrios does he play for The? Mets,
no he. Doesn't he got arrested at Finger. Lakes, oh
AND i don't think he's a jockey. Either i'm not sure.
Though go, on but he's thirty four years. Old he
(40:26):
got arrested and had to be physically removed from the
bar section by security after a verbal. Altercation he allegedly
threatened to go, home make multiple explosives and use them
to blow up the casino as well as the people.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Inside that's an automatic you're going to j, now hang, On.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I'm, thinking did you lose? MONEY i, mean only at Finger?
Lakes could you lose three hundred dollars in the slot
machine and fucking lose your? Mind? Right that's enough State New.
York that's A Western New york. Thing, yes BUT i,
go so here's my, question And i'll put it this.
Way the guy makes this, threat do you Think Jose
(41:07):
Luis Torres Barrios AND i, KNOW i, KNOW i, know
we always have to. SAY i think his name is
longer than the explosives he has in this. HOUSE i
don't think there are explosives in this. HOUSE i don't
think he has the ability to do. This BUT i
get it because now we, go, well he's, threatened, right
and well if we didn't do, anything and then something, Happens.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah it's like the backpack at the, airport, Sir.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Yeah you know WHAT i. Mean BUT i, go is
this security theater or real? Safety and there's a piece
of me that is starting to say AND i get,
it it's post nine to, eleven but we're twenty, six
twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Years Of Silver anniversary at.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Eleven AND i, go at some, point it feels like
security theater to, Me like this guy makes a threat
inside a, bar at a. Casino he probably lost, money
he's agitated at whatever. HAPPENS i don't. Know they don't
give you much more on the, incident BUT i, go
what really happens behind the? Scenes when someone makes a terroristic,
(42:16):
threat we could say that that would be a domestic terroristic. Threat,
sure and what are casinos prepared? For and here's WHAT
i started to. THINK i, GO i have talked to
The Fairport police And i'd love to get them back
in here doing compcast. Again we haven't done that in a.
While but if you talk To Chief Matt, barnes the things,
(42:37):
like you, know what's coming up in a couple of
weeks is The Fairport Music. Fest they have, drones they
have other. Agencies there's people just WALKING i saw. THEM
i saw undercover, guys AND i, mean you're not that.
Undercover but they were in like playing. Clothes one had a,
backpack one had another. Thing well they're big muscle dudes
(42:58):
walking Around AND i, go so there's no way two
dudes ripped with muscle, right are just walking around canal
days because they're looking for a shepherd's hook to hang
their potted plan. On you don't understand What i'm, Saying
like it ain't happening that you stand out like a short.
Thump it's nice to know. Exactly it's, like, oh stained,
(43:21):
GLASS i want a bird? Bath, Yea oh do you
know what we need and it's like my wife would love.
THIS i get this in. BLUE i just, Uh i'm
glad they're. There but do you ever THEN i have
to take it to us as, individuals like we we
say what do we say earlier about our? Healthcare you
have to be THE ceo of your?
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Health?
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Okay so do we have to be THE ceo of
our safety as? Well should we be? Aware AND i
THINK i think to, myself fucking, know BECAUSE i don't
want to live. PARANOID i don't AND i don't think
about this. SHIP i don't think about this ship at.
All and MAYBE i don't think about this ship Because
i'm a middle aged white guy and nothing's gonna happen to.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Me, yeah that's a good point being you know What i'm.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
SAYING i, mean. Nobody, look no one's looking to rape,
me no one's looking to rob, me no.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
ONE i also, think, like, okay to bring it back To,
Jose Maria olethabo, Here.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Luis Teros, Berrio, okay Torres, Berry.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Okay so don't you think, that Like, okay there's police
officers and in their security okay, security like want to be? Police? Really,
Okay so when you sign up to be. Security oftentimes
you look for those moments where you can look like
the big hero so to. Speak, right so, like, ah
there's nothing to. Fear he like that That George zimmerman,
dude that was a guy who on a power trip
(44:40):
Murdered Trayvon martin got way carried. Away but sometimes security
can get carried. Away and Now i'm not saying this
guy shouldn't have been. Arrested he's making. Threats but What
i'm saying is that like they will make a bigger
show out of it than what needs to be.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
WELL i WOULD i made know exactly what you're, saying
and it does make you go if you heard that
guy at the, bar do you take him? Seriously? Right
do you? Say here's WHAT i would. Go it's Like i'm.
Staying If i'm sitting with, SOMEBODY i go all in
for dinner and a show to because you know there
(45:15):
is somebody's gonna come and slam them to the ground
and rest. Them and YOU i can't imagine that this
was a soft, arrest but you got.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It it's like THE wwe all of a, sudden here
come the security guards with the, cops but they With
Steve austin steam hits.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
People, go, well freedom of speech, first terroristic. Threats you
can't yell. Fire you can't yell fire in a. Theater
you can't Say i'm blow this. Up you just. Can't
so it's not a blurry edge. Between but it is
a blurry edge when a person's, drunk do we do
we take into consideration the? Drunk you throw him? Out
(45:52):
how is he getting to his? House was he there
with somebody who can take? Him you know WHAT i?
Mean and what and maybe he does have? EXPLOSIVES i don't,
know you, know it comes back with a comes back
with a couple of bottle rockets and fires him off
At edna gets hitting the. Ass oh you.
Speaker 2 (46:12):
Won the.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Slots no.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Reverse by the time you listener get this, Tomorrow tuesday
will be the debut Of Hard knocks and everybody will
be like tweeting this one. Up please can we wait
till the end of the episode before we start tweeting?
Along but in all, seriousness because everyone's gonna offer their.
Opinion i'm SURE i will offer mind to So i'll have.
Thoughts i'll have a lot of thoughts, coming you, know
WHEN i come back on the. Podcast BUT i want
(46:36):
to talk about, this this and. This, uh but like
the wide receivers are pretty banged. Up you got a
lot of guys begged up for just playing touch football.
BASICALLY i, mean, yeah there's some contact and. Stuff, yeah but,
uh that's a lot of soft tissue.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Injuries, yeah it's a little, scary all, Right, well there's soft.
Tissue though nobody's done for the, season hang. Around they
haven't played preseason game.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yet you got fifty, guys they hang.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Around that's the problem with soft, tissue especially, hamstring, right
that stuff hangs around for a.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
WHILE i would just practice the third. Striggers but, then
like you, know the rookies got everybodys gotta get. WORK i,
mean it's it's gonna be, tough. MAN i know. THAT
i said before the season. STARTED i said their favorite
at every. Game so there's no excuse why they can't
go on the. FEED i didn't say they, would but
these are the reasons why you. Don't and every other
year The bills seem to lose five or six games
(47:29):
and have a rough. Ride and last, year you know
they had a lot of Take they lost three games
last year or four. Games the last one doesn't count
because it was At New. England they were just they didn't.
Care but it's gonna be a tough, year tougher year
than people think because people thought last year would be
the tough. Year this year is gonna be. Tough, man
with all these. Injuries if they keep hurting. THEMSELVES i,
(47:51):
know it's only like it's Only august, Fourth.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
Yes, yes it. Is just put everybody on the.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Shelf they'll figure it out.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
The first day.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Stuff because The yankees are oh they're.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Terrible do they do?
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all blew it On friday.
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It For Dan, Morillo I'm Bill, moran will see You
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