From Loss to Laughter, Love Languages, and Sports Mayhem

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Color A podcast from the Mac of All Trade Studio
in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Jim Rahm.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pawn on.
Thanks for telling a friend. That's how we spread the
word about the virn ship. Something that Justin's Mike here
a little bit. Oh, Danny is here tonight. Wait you're
far away.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Why are you so far away? I can move?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
No, no, no, no no, so the way the camera
is there? We go there he is, there's Danny. I uh,
Danny came in with some set, can we say?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
I mean yeah, yeah, you can talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Danny's grandmother who was one thy three hundred and seven. Yes,
now how old is she? Ninety?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes? She's We know the sea turtles in Florida that
lived forever. Yeah she was, she was. She would have
been ninety eight next week.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Oh so close.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
But not anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
I'm sorry, body, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I'm sorry, and I felt I feel bad because it's funny.
You always hear people go ah it was a great run.
You know, our guys go I would take that. I'd
take eighty five, I'd take ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Used to say that, bro, you give me eighty eight
a healthy life to eighty eight, I take it. But
the now it could be like seventy something, I still
take it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
My grandmother was like on the list, She's like, I'm
just waiting, counting down. She was like, well, I don't
want to live.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Did you have a lot of fond memories of her
growing up? Growing up?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yes, yes, growing up? Yes. And then there was a
dispute in the family. I'm not going to get into
all that. Actually there were sides taken, and I was
kind of like the in like the crossfireland in my family,
and I was trying to be Switzerland, but you know,
oftentimes Switzerland could get taken over gods. So I mean,
but I had a great relationship with my my grandmother,
and uh, you know, things, you know, things happened. She

(02:18):
she lived to be ninety eight, so close enough, okay,
So I have no regrets. I mean, she was a
great grandmother and I loved her, and she was she
was She's Irish, full blooded Irish. She had her principles.
Do you remember when Ice Tea had that cop Killer record? Yeah,
so Grammy used to take us to the movies in
the summertime because summertimes were best for movies. And in
the early nineties, man, that was the height of movie though.

(02:41):
Sure all right, like T two, not that she took
us to that, but all the like like a league
of the sermonare too, but a league of their own.
Like all that's when like Hollywood really started, like really
picking up steam. And she goes, I'm not going to
take into any Warner Brothers movies because they are the
record labeled that does that cop Killer song, and I
will not purchase anything or support them. I'm boycotting this

(03:01):
Iced Tea guy.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
A funny hell. Like all those guys went so mainstream.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I like, I like ice Cube, he's like doing like
dad movies.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well ice Cube wrote, but he wrote all the Friday movies.
He did, like he wrote all his own movies and stuff,
and they were hits. And but you're right, all that
anger and maybe it's misplaced anger. I don't know at
the time, maybe it's right. I have no idea, but
all those guys seem to have gone mainstream and I'll

(03:32):
give you one more Snoop. Yeah, and the Snooper has
a children's show. He's got a kids show. Snoop, don't
get dog do you can feel good about you?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Dude bees with Bluey.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's so weird. It's like, uh, I I have to
see if I can find a little Snoop clip for you.
But all those guys went went mainstream and I and
it's it's not odd to me, but there was a
rebellious side, right, which is sort of like the Who
and the all the way through different bands, like the

(04:08):
appeal was the rebellion. The appeal was you're telling our
truth and it's the rebellion and then all of a
sudden you go mainstream and I got ice Cube is
playing a cop.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, he's playing a cop.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Ice Cube has played a cop. But ice Team plays
the cop. Yes, right, he plays the cop. Doesn't he
on like some law and owners?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yes he does, he does. So I mean, I mean
I think they all eventually sell out like Grace Slick
Grace Slick rights.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Selling out, or if it's just growing up or all
of a sudden.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, I think a lot of it.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
I mean, it could be either one of them, right,
So the Doggy Land, okay, called doggy it's nursery rhymes.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So do you remember the song we Built This City
on rock and Roll?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Okay. So when Bender magazine existed or Blender Magazine, they
rated the top one hundred worst songs of all time.
Now there had to be criteria. You had to be
a pretty good song to be considered bad.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
But that Jefferson Starship Jefferson definittion.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But okay, So Jefferson Airplane.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Eventually became Starship.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It was Starship, So Jefferson Airplane became Jefferson Starship, which
became Starship, which became Starship Enterprise when she became enterprise,
runt of car song. So what happened was Chray Slick
was all about, like, you know, taking LSD and not
selling out to the man in the sixties and reading
a bunch of books. And then she later admitted, yeah,
we were all full of crap and I had a

(05:27):
mortgage and I decided to put my name on that
song even though it was a.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Piece of trash because we needed the money.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
And Bernie Popin wrote it, Bernie top because he Knowlton
what we're having. We're having a little bit of a
falling out.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
He hated them.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, they had a little tiff. So they so So
there were like a lot of people's hands in this
pot to make this song the worst song ever. Yeah,
and it's like, I don't think the song was as
bad as the video made it even he really was.
We built this city? What city in Road?

Speaker 2 (05:55):
What city Rochester, Pittsburgh? Buddy, this city ever? Bend Danny? What?
Here we go? Here we go? Dog Wow, Hey, woofy Hey,
bart Los.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I just wanted to say thank you for always supporting.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Me, being nice to me.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
That's what friends are for, you know it just what
I like? Goodbolt would I like good?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Bro? You're a was so cool?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
I like good make me feel choyed. There's other Okay,
So did you remember Thomas the Tank Engine Thomas and Friends.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Oh god, I probably invested in the wooden train set.
There had to be thousands of dollars, maybe ten grands.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
So my baby brother Ryan, who now listens to this podcast,
would watch that and Barney okay, And and we're watching
it one day, like we have to wash the shop.
Your brother keeps him quiet. Okay, So we're watching this show.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
We don't want the dress of.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Ringo Star first as mister Conductor Ringo Star I think
was replaced by short carlon My father goes, are you
freaking kidding? I go, what? Dad?

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Well, I don't know who I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I knew who Ringo was, but it was.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Just I didn't know who George Carl was just telling
the story. Yeah, but you know, and then wow, let's
talk about bugs.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Bugs or bugs high ball whistle high woofy.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
I learned about Box over the weekend.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Could I teach the others what I learned?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
You sure can't.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yes, let's talk about Box.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
He's so clever catching Box.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
But here's the ship, like there's don't you don't even
know what to say about it.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It's got to be a DJ in the show somehow,
like in the records.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
No, this is a record.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
The ants Spider the middle of the Whip we.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Be stoned to write. I don't know. It's it's cute.
It's just interesting, right because even as even there Carlin
the anti establishment, but he was talking to kids and
playing a conductor a bit of imagination. It's a weird thing, uh,
because you know, you go old school versus news school,
old school is your grandmother. I'm not going to support this, right,

(08:42):
which seems very I think is the best way to
protest is to not support something.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yes, right, you have to say a word, just not
put your money on it. But the other because you
think about you can protest just about anything.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Sure, you can everything. But then you take So she
does that and then we find out out later on
that iced T is now playing a cop. Yeah right,
It's just it's a weird thing. Circle of life is,
It's like it comes around and I was having.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
God like even my favorite band of fall time, Pearl
Jam right Eddie Vedder went from being this guy who
was on stage nobody ever say anything like it.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
He was climbing claf to be to all of a.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Sudden like, I don't want to do music videos anymore.
I don't want to be famous, want to live like
a recluse, didn't want to tour. And then all of
a sudden America said, okay, we'll stop paying attention, we'll
stop buying records. Oh oh okay. So then he climbs
out of it a little bit, and then he's in
episodes of Portlandy. I'm like, I thought you didn't want
to be famous. Now all of a sudden, there's not
a camera that you don't like. You know what I'm saying.

(09:41):
And I think eventually, like you know, people like Billy
Corgan tells this great story. He's got a podcast, right,
he had Tom Morello from Raging against the Machine. He
and Tom Morello grew grew up like ten miles apart
and didn't even know it. And Tom Morello starts laughing
because Billy Corgan's making the very point that they were
trying to make in the night that they didn't realize
they were making, which was how dare you like us?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:04):
How dare you like our music?

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (10:06):
We don't like you? People work, this is worth thinking
about you and you like us? And then they realized
all the cash machines drying up.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, it's right. That and the fact that if you're
in front of a microphone of any kind, it's usually
for attention of something.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
More right than that ego shows up.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, and it's weird.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
And think about all the people who jumped down this
podcast all of a sudden, Well, I.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Put myself in that category because I've been we all
are coming up. I've been in front of a microphone
since yeah, nineteen years old, so I get it, but
it is weird that that full circle thing. And then
just how do I I had a tough, a tough
afternoon today. I thought I was doing something okay and

(10:59):
it backfired in a way.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
That's what I call my marriage, Billy.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Really, my wife, you didn't eat?

Speaker 1 (11:05):
You ate the wrong meal today because we pre cook
all our meals. I need to make room for this
other thing. You got to eat last week's food first.
I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't rotate my food.
I apologize. I thought I was doing the right thing.
I was eating properly.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
I don't know. So yeah, I went and Jamison's had
a little bit of a tough time, and I call
him up and I had was running later than normal,
and I didn't think I was going to have much
time with him today because there was coming here and
I was supposed to have a meeting before it, and

(11:38):
that luckily shifted. So I said to him, what kind
of dinner do you want? Well, he said, I'd like
well Connery's, And I said, well, let's not do that
because I'd rather go in there and eat and I
don't really have the time to do that. I said, well,
do you like McDonald's. He goes, oh, no, I hate McDonald's. Yeah.
So I get McDonald's for the two of us and

(11:59):
I go home yeah, and we're yeah, yeah, yeah. And
I think that there is the old school versus news school,
where maybe people started to hear what Ice team was
really saying and and not and taking some of the

(12:20):
shock out of it and hearing the message underneath and
go oh okay. And maybe that was why he got
more accepted. But I think that they were so hardwired,
not hardwired, so conditioned by our parents and our circumstance
over years of what's respectful and what's disrespectful. And I've

(12:41):
had bumps with my kid, you know, just he and
I and I guess I don't see how I really am.
And I remember once when my older guys were little,
and we had gotten a cam quarter for somebody it
to us, and I remember setting it up to see

(13:02):
because I read somewhere you should see you should film
yourself interacting with your children to see what they see,
because what you may think you're doing could look, you know, different.
I think I did it once for two minutes. I
was like, fuck this but but it was a good
idea before that. So Jamison and I start talking and

(13:24):
I and I'm saying something to him it's kind of,
you know, getting at him, and he's like, yeah, yeah,
I get it. And I go. I basically said to him,
you're shifting the power dynamic in this conversation into making
you the victim. I said, but that's not what's really
happening here. And I raised my voice and the next

(13:45):
thing I know, like he doesn't want to talk at all.
He's like shut down and he doesn't and his thing
is like, it's just like you're repeating yourself. You're the
term like you're bullying me. When I kind of take
a little poet jabs at him or something like that,
and it took like the two of us want up
yelling at each other in an uncomfortable way, like I

(14:09):
wouldn't let him leave. I took his phone for a
moment and go, we're done. I'm paying for this. Nothing
super not violent, not not over the top yelling. But
you've worked with me, yes, and look at what you said, yes, yes, okay,
well right, well okay, so go back there. Now. I

(14:30):
think that I have done a tremendous amount of lane.
You want the chimes, that's not the times sweet Nope, nope,
they all work. Nope, nope, nope, nope.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Okay I picture Sicily twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
But was it like I was, okay, I'll start with
jameson and then you see if you see parallels. So
it got pretty tense and I thought I was keeping
my composure. I really did. And he's saying to me,
I don't want to talk about it. You say this

(15:18):
all the time. I don't even want to hear you
say you're sorry. And I said to him, I take
some of the things you're When we finally got to talking,
like I finally I just sat down on the floor
and he's like, come on, man, just leave me alone.
And I would start to talk and he would jump
in and I go, this is where I feel like
it's being disrespectful and I feel like I'm not being heard.

(15:39):
And he looks at me and he said, why can't
you say that instead of what you said over there?
He's like, it's like you're two different people. Like, right now,
you're really cool dad, he goes, but other times I
think you're just so stressed all the time. That you
take it out to me and you don't even realize it.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
And I was like, I know how that feels to
be on his side of the fence.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm like, I don't think I do that at all.
But then I go, Then I started to think back
to the article I read twenty something years ago that
goes tape the way because no one, how you think
you are isn't how you sometimes aren't perceived. And I
started to go, you know, we talk about things in
relationships with love language. What's your love language?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
You ever hear people say that the five love languages?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think there may be some truth to it.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Only I use all of them.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Your multi lingual, yes, your.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Multi My life gets a little tired of your multi
love lingual. Honey, I'm being smothered.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Are you a kun of lingual? So I just I
was thinking about this. I go, Okay, we we say
with couples, like I think even my sister and brother
in law have said, well, that's his love language. And
and they seem to like, like honestly understanding what really
what they're saying in love language is what makes you
tick versus what makes the other person tick. I get

(17:00):
annoyed when you say this, and I love when you
say this, right, And you know, some people might get
annoyed at the constant good morning, my love. How are
you be? Like, all right, fucking just stop. It feels phony,
and somebody else will be like, oh my god, ill,
thank you? You know what I mean? That that right?
So what makes your person tick is what I really
think they're saying in the love language thing. But we
do that in relationships. Well, would we not say we

(17:23):
have a relationship with our kids or even co workers
or anybody, and that sometimes we're so myopic in our
I gotta go here, I got to it, but that
you're just kind of blowing through and not hearing yourself.
And so I think, like what I was hearing is disrespectful.

(17:44):
Was was not was not disrespectful. It was basically like
I I need a break, Yeah, dad, just back off
a little bit. I need a break instead of and
it's me going, you know what, here we go again,
all because it's like, why are you repeating things to me?
And I said, you used to say to me, We'll

(18:04):
say it once and it's done, And I go, yeah,
but we've had X, Y and Z happen and I
said multiple times, and so now I'm saying it until
I think you understand it, which is a really really
dicky thing to do, right, But you can see this, yes, yes,
you can see me doing it and I and I'm
I'm thinking, I'm like, there was one times less impactful,

(18:26):
less harsh than I was then, And it's not a
testosterone drop. I really worked on that a lot.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I know you have. I remember one time where
you called me up at home. No no, no, no,
no no, and you were amped up about something that
we needed to get done and with you, and I
was like, there's basically it was like six and a
half days of work a week. You arrested for maybe
twelve hours on Saturday, and then it was back to work.
You know, I'd be at church. I get like four messages,

(18:54):
Hey can you get so and so? But no, but
here's what happened. You called me like five or six
o'clock in the evening, and all of a sudden you
call me back. Hey you all right? I go, yeah,
why Jordan just told me that it sounded like I
was yelling at you. Was I yelling at you? I'm like,
I don't think so, not anything that you don't normally

(19:15):
do right, you know, And you're like, well, I apologize,
I go for what I go. Just two dudes talking.
I'm like, this is what we're accustomed to see, like
he but he took it as you were yelling at me,
you know. And so I think that sometimes, like you said,
we don't see ourselves. There's times I'll listen back to
this podcast like, holy cow man, what was I you know,

(19:38):
like I didn't have to explain things a certain way
that I did, or I got all animated. No, but
the point is that we don't. We don't see ourself
like my father. One time, my other grandmother who died
in ninety seven, love Grandma Brell. She was great. She
lived with us, and it was Halloween. I was in
ninth grade and my friends were all going out and
we're just gonna have some fun. Nothing like like clean fun.

(19:59):
Nothing in fact goes no, you're not going out with
those kids. Halloween's a night of trouble. And I'm like,
come on, man, it's ninth grade. I'm trying to fit
in a little bit. And my grandmother stops him, and like,
you know, she was very like uh you know, she
was you know, almost like off the boat and she's
one generation from remov from that she grabbed my father.

(20:20):
She goes, do you remember you as a kid? Okay,
now have you met your son? Have you met your son?
She told him, do you realize that he's one hundred
and eighty degrees opposite of you, that he's nothing like you,
that he'll never be anything like that, and that you
and that you made him get a job at fourteen,
He gets good grades, he comes home on time, he
doesn't cause any problems, so you're gonna write them even harder. Meanwhile,

(20:43):
your other kids, you know, are she's the word dawls,
which means like diablo or devil's Yeah, and you know,
and you get out that, but you get out him
even more. Why for what? And he kind of like
backed off and realized, yeah, you know what, you're right?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Maybe you know why you need somebody to hold up
a mirror? Yeah in a way, right, see it? And
like it bothered me a little bit when he goes,
you're like two people, because then I go, that's almost
like a schizophrenic, right, somebody's but or small personally, we
all have different sides. But what he was saying to
me is like, right now you're being cool and you're

(21:15):
listening and you're doing that, and but before you weren't.
And he was saying to me, did you go get
this McDonald's so we could sit down and eat together
and and so you could do this? And I said no,
I was never mind, like like it was a pre
playing thing, which that was off. So everything was this,

(21:36):
this is But then there was something that he started
to get a little bit emotional and he goes, I
don't even want to do this because you're just gonna
tell me I'm soft and or I'm a pussy. And
I went, what when have I ever said that? And
he said, yeah, you do it all the time. And
I'm like, and that's where I'm like, I don't think
I got it. Like I felt like I just at

(21:57):
that point was like, there's nothing I'm going to be
able to say. That's good to right penetrate this and
let let's get to a better spot. But I was like,
I don't think I've ever said that to you. I
might have said one time, well let's not you know,
we got to push ourselves a little bit here, we
can't be but that had nothing to do with emotion.
I don't fucking know, so the whole thing like so
it was bugging me and then I had to pack

(22:19):
up and get over here and that it's the end
of that.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's I think sometimes that we don't
see ourselves the way others see us. But at the
same times, I think it's okay that we don't because
I think we need to be who we are and
our most authentic self to drive the point home when
we need to drive the point home. And sometimes you know,
I mean it's I've never been a parent, so I

(22:41):
can't speak. But my brother Ryan, who listened to this
podcast every day, told me, he goes, Dad, get our dad.
Dad gave you a complex. He gave you a complex,
and that's why you're like, there's a lot of fear
in your life because you're afraid you're gonna let somebody down,
you're gonna get yelled at, you're gonna getcreened that. You know,
you don't want to create that, but you still have
to maintain the father's on dynamics.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, you're in charge. What I'm saying is is and
that's what we say.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
We got too many kids now who are running their families.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, he said to me, like you're talking like there's
a power thing, and I go, no, in the conversation,
when you're shifting it back to I don't, we'll talk
about it, I go, that's taken the power. I'm still
the one. I don't know it. It got sort of
silly but almost necessary, and I don't know. It's just

(23:29):
one of those things where I guess we don't. Sometimes
you need to have a mirror held up and figure
it out. But I think for a lot of times
with me is I don't say anything at all, which
I'm wondering if that's even worse, you know what I mean,
Like the shit could hit the fan and I just
go super calm, or things are getting mixed up and

(23:52):
I just go super calm, and I don't say a lot.
I don't say a lot and I don't do anything,
and I'm just like there. But I think it's on
my face, and I think he reads and feels the
emotion a little.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Bit, and it like you don't see that thing. You
don't see yourself.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yes, I don't see myself, so every you know, like
I look like r and I try to sometimes do that.
And I have been told by people that you wear
your emotions on your face, and you know, like I
people can in meetings and things would see me and be.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Like, that's why they that's the seven thirty eight fifty
five r O fifty five percent is the expression on
your face, your body language.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
So and then I was thinking about this too. I
remember like, we can go okay, yeah, but there's kids
and they got to you know, shut the fuck up sometimes, right.
But on the other hand, I have a friend, uh,
I had a friend that had I think there was
like four girls or something in the family, and they
were talking about their father. They went camping and he
like might have hit his thumb or something with the

(24:50):
attacking you know, old school attacking the the peg into
the ground, right, and he goes, god, damn it, and
the kid starts crying, Dad, I don't like when you
do that. And Dad like really softened after that, right,
And I'm like, it's probably the better way to you.
We don't want to make Do you want to give
anybody a complex? Right? I think it's a fair thing

(25:12):
to say, right, like, and I'm not saying you have one,
I'm just saying that you don't want to. But think
of how many people I mean, the big thing for
guys has always been you don't really beget get to
live until your dad dies, because there's that overlor person
that yes, you don't want to disappoint, you feel you
have to answer yes. And I think that there are

(25:33):
certain aspects of that that are a little bit true.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Unfortunately, yes there are. I hate to bring everything back
to this Pranus or family guy. Yes, but it was
this episode a family guy, right, and family gets A
family guy gets a lot of criticism. But have you
ever with your father on Thanksgiving morning had to put
in a leaf into a table? Yes, okay, and your
father got pissed off because it wasn't squeaking out because

(25:56):
you only get you only open up the table so
many times a year, so it does loose it up,
so it gets stuck and then it goes it's out
of order, and then you got to fix it again
and again. I had multiple moments with my father and
the leaf not fitting right, not getting squeezed. Okay, every
so they did Peter and Chris doing the leaf thing

(26:17):
on Thanksgiving like damn trying, like the father's flipping out. Yeah,
that's life, I mean, that's just life. Is a parent
and the son. You know, it's it's it's not it's no,
nobody's doing it on purpose. It's the frustration of life,
and we have to realize, okay, just it's not a
big deal. We're just putting the leaf in to make
the table for Thanksgiving, the show everybody how grateful we

(26:37):
are that we live in this great country, that we
have a family that loves each other. But we're bitching
about putting in a leaf because it's so hard when
the reality is it's really not that big a deal.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
No, but it's the frustration of hey, to get this done,
and your mother's up my ass, but this isn't clean.
And the bathroom still.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
The momentum of madness.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yes, I remember all that stuff, and I remember, like
it's like the perfect meta. And everybody's mood was tense, yeah,
trying to get everything ready. And my mother had these
special soaps that she had that you couldn't use right.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
They were de secretive soaps.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
They were decorative soaps, and they sat with the decorative
towels so the back of the toilet, and my uncle
comes out and goes, Jesus Christ, I thought those were chocolates.
It was brown soap.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
I chos in the fucking bathroom toilet on a toilet.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Hey, Uncleedny, if you're watching this, what are you doing?
You put the brown soap in your mouth? All right,
we gotta do.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I hate to see what you did with the decoratives.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
We will, uh will take them.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
It'll be all right, It'll be all right.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
It will it will.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You raised two kids so far that turned out okay?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah one actually Jackson, Uh dispatch her for New York City.
He no kid, yeah yeah, he just he passed the test.
He had a medical thing. He's doing well. We'll take
a moment. I'll give you some old school parenting that
made the news. Okay, old school parenting beat No, it's not.

(28:05):
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you know, if you'd like to get if you like
to get some friends together, hey, fifty TVs and at
least there if you're a Knicks fan, hey, you're not
commiserating that they lost, you know. But I would even

(28:26):
say this, and we haven't said this about BTV, but
I think it's a nice place even for a date night,
you know what I mean. Times Yeah, but I'm saying
like even sometimes I've had a I have not done
the dating scene. I haven't, but I've been backed up.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
That's why Jamison, you are having problem.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Could be you could be back by I definitely could be.
That's true Fairport Cover so the uh yeah. But some
people will say, hey, let's uh, you know, love to
meet for coffee, which is usually like a prelude to
a date thing. And I'm like, you go to bTB,

(29:04):
you could get a bunch of their delicious happening. Could
you could keep it casual enough on a first Yes?
You know what I'm saying, right right, you get your
you know, your Tinder on there or whatever you're doing.
I don't even know by way.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
For years, I didn't realize that coffee was euphemism for
something else. I thought it just bent coffee.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
So did I what does it mean?

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Well, apparently like I've just learned that it means, like,
you know, coffee. I'm like, no, I thought it was
just coffee. The wonder I turned off all these women
over the years. I thought they wanted to get coffee.
I just a coffee. Apparently it's a euphanism for sex.
I didn't know this with whom I guess, like, well,
on television, that's what they've said. Like, I've seen several
shows where they've discussed this, and I'm like.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
I found that hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
No, I found like during the day coffee was a
safe yeah, meaning yeah, I don't buy that. Okay, all right, good,
I'm with you. Okay, But what I'm saying is go
to BTV.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
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a delicious brunch Father's Day coming up. Make those reservations.
It's made to order brunch, which is great. They have
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You can check out all the stuff that's going on
at bt B at their on their Facebook page and

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Speaker 1 (30:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, it's gonna bratch it out it is. It's gonna
be fun. It's gonna be fun. They do a Lot, Matt.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And Tribute Band Zach Attack.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
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Speaker 4 (32:23):
Affirmations are positive statements that help bust the challenge and
overcome when you're not feeling good and having negative thoughts,
So repeat after me. Come on, everyone, there is no
one better to be than myself myself.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Today is gonna be an amazing day.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Today is gonna be an amazing my feelings matter.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
My feel means.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I get but see, okay, yes, thank you, go ahead. No,
I have no problem with this. I think it's okay,
it's good. But what were we always told us kids,
Like I've used to always make this joke, like you
tell a kid, if you have a conflict with somebody,
walk away, let's put her hands on them. Walk away.
And then when you're talking to your kid and they

(33:09):
walk away and go where you all go and get
back here, do not walk away from me? You know
the same thing? Or how about well, my feelings, I
don't give a shit about your feelings like that would
be my that would be my thing.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I think that my feelings matter. Thing gets a little
carried away because it's it's almost like a sense of
self worship and self. Look it can, I mean, it
always gets carried away. Your feelings mad truth? Give me
a break about your truth. I don't want to hear
about your truth.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Well, I don't even know. I don't hear about your
feelings even know what my truth is?

Speaker 1 (33:38):
Right, That's that's the point.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
My feelings matter, like feeling sad matters. But there are rules.
Why am I feeling sad? And how can I reframe
this to feel better.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
I feel said what's wrong, Billy, Yeah, I shot my
best friend in the head to drive by.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
My family loves me so much, much.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
So much, said my dad.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I care about others.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
I care about others.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I learned from my mistakes.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
I learned from my mistakes.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
Now we know some new affirmations that we can choose
and learn to say. So next time you need a
little inspiration to help you have more of a positive.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Da come on Dan, Okay Dan, this is you, all
day long, positive affirmations, right.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
No smart enough dog call people like me.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Now, listen, there's a lady that might need might need
Doggyland in the affirmation.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay, yeah, all saying with these affirmations, they can't go
on checked. You gotta just you know, well, you gotta
keep it real once in a while.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I think that, but also saying I care about other cultures.
You know. Look, you're gonna grow up and something's gonna
trigger you, and I don't know, all of a sudden,
you're gonna go what happened to Doggyland lesson went to
the dogs? Uh? This is this is a story that
when I first heard it, I laughed. Do you remember

(35:06):
when you and I worked together. I was coming into
work and I stopped at Wegmans and I was a
little early that day, and I'm walking across the parking
lot and I hear, hey, are you Bill Moran? And
I kind of like made my sphincter a little tight
because it's the Wegman's East Avenue and it's was like,
you know, pitch black, yes, sort of the middle of
the night, and I go, yeah, it was a guy

(35:28):
from Channel ten. He goes, we got this story that's
come out. The story was the Karen Klein story. Yes,
do you remember where the kids they made fun of
around She's still alive. I don't know, but they made.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
Fun around the bus. They made fun That was one
of the first major GoFundMe accounts. Yes, that was started.
They raised like over one hundred thousand dollars. Oh, I
thought it was closer to Maybe it was maybe it's
more than that.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it was damn close to a million.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
It may it may have been. Yeah, and the rest
of us, Okay, who else can we get to get
made fun of them? To raise money?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
The kids were kind of rude, yeah, right, I mean
we were playing back audio of it. And we stopped
it at when one kid was talking. She was hard
at hearing, so she couldn't hear well. And she was
the bus monitor. She couldn't hear well. So I don't
know what she was gonna do. Older lady just trying
to make extra money. Let's just put it that way, Okay,

(36:20):
older lady trying to make extra money. Probably grandmotherly and
nice and was working with kids. Middle school kids get
on the bus and they're doing things like what's your
brass eye? Triple sag and I fucking Tommy and I
we could breathe. We kept rewinding it going that. We're like,
who is this kid? That was fantastic? That was the

(36:42):
greatest diss ever Triple sag. Wow. We have a similar situation.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
We found out it was Pete Davidson.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
We have a similar situation in this story right here. Whoops,
I apologize. Board a Memorial Day flight out of Sanford
or Londo.

Speaker 5 (37:00):
Sanford Airport police arresting this woman, Christy Crampton, who they
say repeatedly hit a child.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
On a plane.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
She's charged with felony child abuse. Child NaN's Ashlyn Webb
explains what witnesses say led up to the woman being cuffed.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Okay, beats a kid.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Okay, her kid. I don't know, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I didn't think it was her kid. Okay, Well I
have to listen and see what we can deduce from
the story. But here we go.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Airport police say they arrested her at the gate after
the pilot requested for law enforcement. This arrest report says
it all started with the child calling the woman fat
and miss Piggy.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Fat, and Miss Piggy called her fat and miss piggy,
and she not having none of that.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
She had to keep it real, and she had to
keep it real. And this is what keeping it real wrong. No, no,
I don't like people playing on the phone. So Tanisiha
had to keep it really.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
This is where even a real went back. But she
or gone wrong, she called her. Now, it's not triple sag.
It's not that high quality of a diss, but miss
Piggy and fat.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Christy Lee Crampton was set to be back home from
her family's Disney World vacation. Instead, she made her first
appearance in front of a Seminole County judge.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
The happiest place on.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Earth, Well, oh yeah, expensive, spend a lot of money,
spend more money than you think. You're trying to get
on rides gets hot, gets sticky, their lines along. Sometimes
you don't get the fast pass. Or if you're not
rich enough to have an escort that'll take you, you
can pay I think it's like five hundred bucks a
day and you can have a private chauff for just

(38:50):
get you right everywhere, They get you in and then everywhere.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
And so but this lady, I saw a picture, attractive woman, portly.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Okay, you know, look, she lose thirty pounds.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
She'll let you be hot. I'll tell you what, man, terrible,
isn't that terrible?

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I looked at her because I wanted to. I was
expecting something like obeses she's not.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay, she's not.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Tuesday charged with felony child abuse. Allegiant Flight twenty eight
eighty five to Haggerstown, Maryland was set to take on
from Orlando Sandford International Airport just before two pm Monday,
but according to this arrest report, Crampton and witnesses on
the plane tel police the child called Crampton fat and
miss piggy, telling her she couldn't fit in the airplane seat.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
I mean, now, I don't know how old this kid is,
so I don't know. Maybe the kid got defiest disorder
what they call it, oh DC. I don't know, he's
just oppositional defiant disorder. ODD you down with? Yeah, you know,
I'm down.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I slap you with the face.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
So you call her fat miss piggy and you can't
fit in the sea, you fat ass miss piggy.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
That's when witnesses say Crampton began hitting the child with
her fist.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
I know, right, we laugh, we laugh, but she but
she fucking had it Disneyland, all this stuff. She punches
the kid with the fist, but that's not all.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
And then hit him on the head with a water bottle.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Okay, now that can hurt. Yeah, water bottle because it
doesn't give right away, No, especially if they're aluminum. Right.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Then the report says she slammed the child's head into
the airplane window.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
She turned to Jackie Chan went she went cramp and
went captain on some little boy, going, oh you're down
with O D D.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Don't make fun of me.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
The child used his arms to cover his head. Airport
police haven't said how old the child is he's fifteen.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I gotta think like I'm thinking this kid's around eleven
or twelve.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
But Crampton told police the child was very rude and
disrespectful during their trip to Disney, and then after the
child called her fat, she took his phone away. She
claims he then pushed her arm off the armrest twice
and that's when she began smacking him. But police and
witnesses say she went beyond typical disciplinary actions, one witness
saying the woman was not correcting the child, she was

(41:40):
abusing him. The report says the FBI was notified because
it happened in airport. Judge granted the woman a ten
thousand dollars bond. Reporting in Sandford, Ashland, web Channel nine
eyewitness News.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Okay, now, there have been many, many, many jokes over
the years about black moms and what a black mom
would do when you acted up. Yes, oh yeah, Sinbad
had a old He did a whole set. Yeah, Sinbad
did a whole set on his mom. And the thing

(42:13):
is like, maybe that was bad, right, probably yes, I
can okay, but should we be interfering with someone else's
parenting and he had at the same time, it would
be hard to sit there and see a woman punch
a child. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but that's
what the winners. Punch a child with the closes fizz

(42:34):
hit him over the head and his etiquette. I shouldn't
even laugh at this, but it would be hard to
watch that.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
No, I think thirty years ago she would have got
a standing ovation.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Well, see this is where I go. Old school, news school, right,
old school, new school, old school, new school, old school me,
is you shut up on the parent, you're the child,
blah blah blah. New school would be Jamison kind of
telling you how he's feeling and realizing I want to
get the most out of somebody. I need to speak
their language. What do we say about great managers? Great

(43:05):
managers know what right? Yes, what they're what makes their
employees tick? With me? That that's the love language thing.
So I had.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Manager's job is to notice. My brother's job is to notice. Yes,
little baby boys acted up. She decided to fix them up.
And of course some white parrot with a cell phone.
Oh no, we can't have this, no we no, this
this needs to be reported. I went off with my
mother one time, ten years old.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
God had to save me.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
I'm serious. Guy had to save me.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
I just woke up.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Everybody's laughing, and he made millions off this bit.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
This kid could he's got a story.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
His head was bounced off a plane.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I was ten years old. My father had left town,
you know, and we're from the Midwest, from Michigan. You
got to cut the grass every Saturday. That's just automatic
because you ain't got no lawn. You're gonna cut something.
Go out there and cut somebody's arm, but you're gonna
cut something on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
My father was out of town, and my mother's cool. Now.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
I remember the father said cut the grass. Well, he
ain't his I don't know why I came out.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
It was just a manly thing that was down here, says, try.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It, try and mess it up. You almost tall as her.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
She can't do nothing to young.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
If I hadn't known then what I know now, I
wouldn't just try to walk.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
I tried to just walk out of.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
The room, out of back down fool. I turned my
back on my mother. I heard a sound come out
of her that I had never heard before.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
He obviously put like, yeah, some effects on the microphone
or something messed me up. I turned around.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
My mother was growing. She was thick pan with a
with a for wooman on her chest, and the cake
was blowing in the wind behind him, and a golden
belt came.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Out the sky yellow.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
But it would be one coy but fellow.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
All right, you see what I'm saying, Like Sinbad just
asn't aside. I remember people getting comics giving him a
lot of ship, and I always enjoyed Sinbad, and I
remember sitting down.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Because he was clean? Was it that was?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I don't know. Hackey was the thing A lot of
people said, like easy stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
He was mainstream because because he was hooked up with Cosby, right,
because a different world was where he really broke out,
and it was a Cosby production, and Cosby was big
on like the you know, your your comedy has to
be clean, even though like the word was out about
Cosby what he was doing with women, and even then
all right and so right, so we got him right

(46:05):
right and so like because so Sindbad got the rap
for being one of because Cosby like told, uh, Eddie Murphy,
you know you got to clean it up, Eddie burs.
It's not like a clout and go so the mother
for good night. You know, it's like not all I do,
mister Cosby, you know, but U.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Called Richard Pryor after he goes Cosey fu Field got me.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah, tell Conrad go fuck him to.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But Sinbad and I remember sitting down with his bad health.
I think he had a stroke.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay, and now and you can see some stuff.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
It's unfortunate because I thought he was very talented, very enjoyable.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
And I were sitting down as a family on HBO
watching Sindbad Duke stand up. Yeah, because my father knew
he was clean. I'll let you guys watch, and we
were laugh because he was a Baptist. He grew up
in a Baptist church. We were Baptists, so it was relatable.
It was funny.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So but my the the reason for playing this something
because I could remember seeing probably that HBO specially you're
talking about, and then sitting with him at the now
defunct Montreal Comedy Fest and having just a great conversation
and I go, boy, he's such an enjoyable guy. It's
such great energy. Positive h It's unfortunate whatever health wise

(47:13):
he's dealing with. But that was a bit about your mom,
and there were a ton of comics and usually I
don't mean the stereotype or even sound. I don't think
it's racial. Maybe I guess, but black moms weren't putting
up with shit, no, you know. And I mean there's

(47:33):
even who was the one who did the bit. It's
like I went, I remember going over to my white
friend's house and mom says, uh, oh, was.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Eddie Murphy talking about like when he was a fresh
air kid in Rochester?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
And he said he mentioned it on the HBO special.
They didn't even know that this kid had become a comic.
All of a sudden they realized Eddie Murphy was in
their house.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
This is somebody going over to hang out with their
white friend. They go over there and because they said
something like the bit was. I remember when I went
back and I said, they got sandwiches with the crust off, right.
But then then but then he's like one kid. His
mom says, you know, hey, can you come down here

(48:14):
and pick up your I'm just giving an example, pick
up your backpack, bringing up to him.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
I'll get it later.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
And I remember sitting and you know, I'm sitting there
waiting and waiting and waiting, and nothing happened, you know
what I mean, right, So I'm just telling you like
there was a difference in like those you know, those
kids were right, and now you've got somebody on a
plane who does something right.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I don't know what I think that The issue here
is we're at a point now where somebody had to
do something because if anything han't forbid happened to this child,
like he had a brain damage or something like that
on the flight and nobody. Now it's a liability issue, okay,
So everything's liability. So now like a flight attendant's got
to report this or they can lose their job. Now

(49:03):
it becomes you know, cover or you know what I know?
So that I think that's why.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
But how Mike, how I always wondered like this with
my dad because I never thought about about it too much.
But like I put far powdered to his coffee, right,
and he was embarrassed and it became a big family thing.
This is now that you beat your child. I'm assuming
it's the woman's child. Maybe maybe it's an adopted child,

(49:30):
maybe it's a cousin and nephew. I have no idea,
but she beat somebody. I would assume that his family
and at some point everybody else in the family is
going to know it, and one of those holidays going
to be like and what happens when you get like
Uncle Bill walks in the room and comes up and
behind the kid goes looks like your mom lost weight,

(49:52):
you know what I mean, or or gives him this
piggy puppet for you. I mean, like, what happened? What
goes on? And can you ever repair that dynamic? Mom
went to jail, right, Mom went to jail, And you
didn't do anything, but in a way you kind of
got some power, Like you didn't cause her to go

(50:15):
to jail. You said what the kids say, it was
pretty shitty of you. But I don't you know, Mom
had to pay ten thousand dollars to get out of jail.
I just feel whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I feel for the mother in this situation. I do too,
And I know you have to maintain the power dynamic.
You're the mother, that's the child. You can't let the
kid MFU because they'll continue to MFU for the rest
of his teenage life until you send that message clearly,
And that messager said clearly. She went to jail for it.

(50:48):
My father would be in that situation. I don't care
if I go to jail. I don't care. My father
had a phrase he goes, I don't care if my
kids hate me, but man, they will respect me. Well.
I know what's best for them. And if I got
to go to jail to protect him, I'll do it. Yeah,
I don't care. And maybe this mother doesn't care. I mean,
I'm sure she carried when she had to put up
ten thousand dollars bond, you know, to get out.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
It's clearly somebody had hit the end of the rope. Yeah,
the end of your rope. I I And it doesn't
make it right, and it doesn't, but there is something
like you got to know that somewhere along the line
she's going up the aisle or if she's getting off
the plane, some of my guy goes, got your back,
you know what I mean? I feel your pain? Yeah,

(51:30):
I feel your yeah, you know oh yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Mean, like, think about Jameson's fifteen.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, he's like he's taller than I. He was like
six what about six one?

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Okay, so imagine a six to one MF and his
mother Ye like that, what are you supposed to do.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Nothing, and I don't know that. He Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You know, Yeah, she had to send a message. Yes,
and that message came with her fist. Man, and then
for good measure, she slammed his head. I gets that
window in the airplane. I understand why the flight attendant's
got to call the cops. Oh, but you know what,
you know what it's like, Chris Rockwood.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
They should have killed it, but I understand.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
But how about like if you're sitting in that row right,
You're sitting in the row, it's like the mother and
child right next to you, and you see this shit,
You're like, I'm good man, man, all the.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Parents were sitting their kids. That's going to be if
you don't that.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
I was thinking about this phone.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Do you remember your little game game boy and shut up?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Do you remember being in school like and seeing like
one of your friends get in trouble like you're elementary,
go yeah, kindergarten, first second grade, something like that, and
you're like, shit, I don't want to do that. Yeah,
I don't want to be like I remember, like I
remember the teacher dumping a desk because somebody used to
just shove their work in it.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
My desk dumped and I was like, I don't want that.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Or I remember Simon Belgrave and Nathan Briggs, I can
remember their names. They bought glue at the school store
and they decided to glue I don't know if they
were gluing the boys or girls bathroom door shut right,
and they glued it, and she she went, I mean
it was elmer. She could have just put a good
shoulder to it. Yeah, she just went fucking ape shit.

(53:08):
And I'm like, man, you know every want across this bitch.
She was nutty.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
We had a few of those elementary school Yeah, but
even there, you gotta you know, got divorced. Yeah, and
like a few years later after we had my cousin,
Lindsay Goes. Man, if I were if I were her husband,
I would have left her a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
A long time ago. Uh. You know what's coming up
is graduation for a lot of people. Leo's my friends.
You know what, you know, what makes a nice gift. Honestly,
if you're going even to a picnic or something, you
never want to show up empty handy. Why don't you
come with some Leo's cookies?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I would.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Why don't you go over there and get some Leo's
Canoli's the Canoe Station. Yes, fill it right up for you.
They can fresh fresh, and you can get like chocolate
chip filled, you can get it's it's delicious. And then
I like things like Bor's head was something I grew
up with in cold cuts and things. They're delicious. They
have a grabbing go case so you don't have to

(54:04):
wait in line if you just know that I want
a quarter pound of cheat. They got it all right there.
They make it so convenient, so easy, and don't forget
two dollars fresh bread. Yeah right, brilliant, Yeah right there,
all perfect. They got the stuff, breads, they got everything, everything. Yeah,
because what's the best thing about Leo's.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Everything.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
All right, we'll take a moment. Do we get into
a little bit of Bill's talk or do you want
to talk about people putting their hands on sportscasters?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Putting their hands on sportscasters.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
That might be more interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Okay, do you want to do that.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Let's do that one.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
All right, we'll do the hands. There's been a lot
of hands lately, hands, hands like physically putting hands like
almost in a threatening manner on somebody and we'll get
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Speaker 6 (55:59):
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Speaker 4 (56:07):
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Speaker 1 (56:14):
Jumping up my mama.

Speaker 6 (56:15):
You know my doctor books in the living room getting
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Speaker 1 (56:20):
And six in the bone.

Speaker 6 (56:22):
And what you're going to do? I got a pocket
pulling of the ruffers in my heart. Boys do too,
so turn off the lights. Included the dope, But but what.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
I needs it? I so we go contradicts with donkeys.

Speaker 6 (56:35):
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Speaker 1 (56:39):
Smoking. So this is the edited version. I didn't hear
the unedited version until college. I'm like, oh, oh, that's
what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
What was the other of the version? Oh?

Speaker 1 (56:52):
The under the version was spoken endo, and there's a
lot more swearing in that part in the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (56:56):
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Speaker 2 (57:17):
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Speaker 1 (57:20):
Feet from gay?

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Why why is this not better? Sleeping on?

Speaker 1 (57:27):
People gotta get mine.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
It's fine, you gotta they're sleeping on it because you
could have it.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
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Speaker 1 (57:44):
That I speak. If I take me get drank to
the middle.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
Of the street, can get the magat to the strict
name slady. It's like she used to beat my whole
boy's late late eighty degree.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Why not you'll.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Uh So, there's some things I wanted to uh bring
up on the podcast because one of the things I've
really liked about this is I was told by somebody
that they hate my style of a podcast a while ago. Okay,
and no they did, and I understood, Yeah, it didn't matter,

(58:23):
and I knew what they meant, and I didn't care.
I wasn't even bothered by the statement, but it did
stick with me because I thought, well, you know what,
when you tell somebody or somebody says he's got a podcast,
they'll go, what is it about? And that's what that
person was saying, and I can't tell you what it's

(58:44):
really about. And people go, what's it about? And I go, well,
it's like my radio show. But if you never listened
to me on the radio, then you don't know. But
one of the things I like is getting to know
the people on the podcast, and we have gotten to
know them, We've been through different things. We know you
and then we've heard about your past, and you know,

(59:04):
we know that Beth is referred to as Boo, and
we know all the things that you know she's dealing with,
and your grandmother, and we know Kevin and his kids
and the hockey and this stuff, and we know Laura
and all that, and certainly I haven't been shy about
things over the years. So something, so something came up

(59:25):
on the podcast when Doug was here because he had
heard the episode with You and uh Mark Mark and
Mark talking about being single, and he wants to do
a thing where a woman goes out with Mark and
then she goes out with Doug and she comes back
and says who was the better date? And I thought,

(59:47):
there's no way. And then I got somebody who wants
to do it.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Oh really a woman? Yeah, okay, who wants to go
on a date with both of these guys. Wow, okay.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
She's like, they're two of my favorit and I would
do it. So I don't know, what do you think
of this thing?

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
I love it?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Yeah, I kind of do too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
I love the idea.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
I get a little nervous and then I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
I know, Okay, if we had to put a point
spread on this, who's gonna win this? I getta put
Doug at three and a half? Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Okay three and a half. Now, I'll tell you what
I think. I think. I think Mark's a sleeper. You
think so, oh yeah, I think Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Well, that's why I always set the spread at three
and a half.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
I like, I think Mark has some real charm and
talent and has some real sensitivity. Where Doug may try
to just be funny, Mark, he Mark, he may actually
pick up on what you're laying down, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Doug could play himself out of the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Here's the thing is, like, I don't know how involved
I want to be in terms of, like, you know,
where they go, what they do. I almost want them
to do the date so I have to talk to
these guys. But I was I think it might be
a fun arc And that was the thing I go, boy,

(01:01:03):
I have I don't know. I feel like we've done
something pretty special with this podcast over the couple of years.
Over the couple of years, and it's been fun and
it's been nice to not have worry about, you know,
getting yelled at today because I did whatever or you know,
I still get yelled at by people, but they never mattered.

(01:01:25):
It was always the bosses that you had to go
into the office and I, I'm sorry, not really, I
got to sit here and I gotta do all that.
You know, I get suspended for a day without pay whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
You got to spend it for two days. I got
to spend. Did you spend ever before? Oh yeah, okay,
oh yeah, no kidding, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sure
I figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I got suspended when I sent somebody to a gay
bar to find out how much a blowdot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
You got suspended for that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
Yeah, yeah, over under because every advertiser around that was
the nerve had contact. Well it was fun. So I
did to get suspended for that. And then I got
suspended when a woman called miss dialed and thought she
was calling the phone company. She was asking for Frontier
and she wanted to pay her bill and she was

(01:02:14):
very late with it, and I said, oh, hold on,
I'll patch you right through to the billing department. And
then I get on there to you hello, and she's like, hi,
I want to ma, ma'am, this bill is And I
took a guess and she goes, oh my god, no,
it's nine months. And I'm like, you know, going on,

(01:02:35):
how do you think company can stay in business of
people like you are customers? What is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
We provide you the opportunity to commute.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
I play it back on the radio as a wrong
number call, and I'm, you know, thinking this. I'm twenty seven,
twenty eight years old. I think it's a funny thing.
And her family heard it like they're listening and go,
oh my god, my poor mother and called and complained
because she was she didn't know she was gonna be

(01:03:04):
on the air, which was an FCC violation. So I
got suspended for that. So that was the third time
I got suspended with you. Okay, but that's when I've
liked about the podcast, and not that we're really doing it.
But I gotta say now like I do swear, but
not as much anymore. Yeah, you've kind of cool back,
well only because I go there are times where I say,

(01:03:25):
listening to the podcast, there are times where I go,
there's no point to it, it doesn't enhance them. There
are times where I think where all of a sudden,
it's like holy shit, that I don't mind. I wouldn't
have mind that if it was on the radio, you know,
I remember, yes and and and to me that that's okay.

(01:03:45):
It's the other stuff where we're like, yeah, but but
even if you get angry and you drop your hands,
all right. I don't know, I've enjoyed this, but those
are the types of things that I've liked that have
come out of it. And it's people that I didn't
know before this really started. I didn't really know Doug,
and I certainly knew you and Kevin, but I didn't
know Laura. No. I didn't know Stephanie. No. I didn't

(01:04:07):
know Matt. You know, I didn't know these people, and
you know, you know, so it's nice we found characters
and we've built the thing here, yes, that I think
is really really impressive. And uh I I've enjoyed every
minute all it's been a blast. Yeah, and it really has.
And that that that was my made.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Me realize how much I actually missed the on air
part of radio really, you know what I'm saying, Like
I didn't miss the the bottom of the iceberg, like
the work the underneath, okay, like dealing with management, the
lack of money, at least in my case. Okay, being
broke partning through relationships because you oh you're broke, didn't

(01:04:43):
yelled at because when you're the producer, you got to
fix this. It's like, well, you're the program direction. I
don't miss those things, but I missed like the performance.
I mean, that's why you get into the business, because
it's fun and it's it's like you're really like you're
you're bright. If people go to you first thing in
the mo when they get their car and they turn
you on, that's like the highest compliment you can receive.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
Well, there are people that I'll get when I if I've
dropped an episode later I didn't do an episode. Very
rare that that's happened, but uh what happened? Okay? Yet, no, like,
is there not one today? Is there not one today?
Because there's a few people that get up and they
go to work at like three o'clock in the morning,
and that's what they listen to because there's not a

(01:05:23):
lot of talk radio at that time. Yeah, right right,
there is, but there's not a lot no and so
or or talk that they like, yeah, put it that way,
and so this is, uh, this has been fun, but
we'll see if this dating thing goes. And I I
don't know whether to, I don't know how to, only
because it's somebody's feelings involved, you know what I'm saying.

(01:05:45):
I will tell you this. So the person that reached
out to me, I think is got it. Is really
just a cool, fun person, and I think that Mark
will love it. I think Doug might be a little okay,
I'm not sure. I'm not sure about I just think
like might be a little nervous, not sure, but yeah,

(01:06:08):
but this is a cool person and we'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Oh, yeah, we got we got an interviewhere afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, you know. No, she comes in and
she rates the dates, like we may have to string
this out over a few episodes. I may have to
do like the her and she discusses it, and then
play back pieces just for Mark with like an episode
with him, and then just for Doug for an episode
with him and let them defend, and then maybe have
an episode where everybody's in the in the same room.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
That is what we used to call serial content.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Yes, yes, what it is, and that's what it is,
and that's what's fun. And when you're invested in something,
that's what I always liked I don't know how to
do this. I didn't know how to do this, but I.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Knew I like that figured it out well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
It was even like even in Poughkeepsie, and certainly being
around guys like we you learned it more. But even
in Poughkeepsie, I like this when people would call every night,
it was the same people that. Yeah, the story of people,
you know, like the guys I missed hot phones on
the radio in live radio.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
It's it's a lost art. Even serious has gotten away
from that. And that bugs me too, because like those stories,
like if you if you have a national show on
live right now, you know you could get all kinds
of crazy stories and crazy people calling up with all
kinds of crazy stuff, and that's what makes it worthwhile,
you know, That's what's fun. Like your show on CMF

(01:07:29):
in the afternoons was a riot because you had all
kinds and the best part is you could sift through
the crazy to pick that's crazy because there are a
lot of people that were just like idiots would just
call and just call radio stations forever, okay, But like
you could actually sift through the the all that and
figure out okay, here's what I can work with and
why it make it interesting. Like I remember when I

(01:07:51):
was working with you producing the morning show the break
Room that you go, hey, I want you to work
with the callers. And I had experienced with that before.
But on a sports talk show, it's just just whoever calls,
just put them on, doesn't matter who. We don't care
if they want to talk about the amirks or the manitoba.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
To you just because I I I'm curious what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
No, just when you get them on, just make sure
you know, like I always believe that they had to
be on topic, you know, and that that that you
didn't have to tell me that you're like, hey, just
work with them a little bit. See if what you
like when they want to talk about a subject, ask
them why they want to talk about it, and then
then would it would open them up. So that's how
and I would start working with these guys. And one
time we had a guy we were talking about this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Dude, I always wanted their phone to be sound and right, yeah, yeah,
it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Make sure your phone is turn through your radio off,
make sure you're talking into your phone, you know, address
the subject matter, don't say Hello, you had to just
waste time get right to it. And and then I
knew the guys in the room, you and Tommy, and
sometimes if there was other people, all right, here's who's
going to react to what? So I'd say, address Tommy
directly and say, and by the way, I gotta do

(01:08:59):
this all late, ladies, and tell me in like ten
seconds or less. Yeah, okay. And there's this kid named
Eric Holtz. He had a car he somehow escaped to
call the sack with police surrounding him, and got out
of him, and everybody called up and talked about what
a douchebas Right, So this one guy calls me up
because I'm dating this girl. I actually I'm not danger
I'm just sleeping with her. And she went to school

(01:09:21):
with them, Yeah, and said, he's total. I go, you
gotta go, Billy, just chick, I'm banging went to school
with Aeric Colts, says, you told that's what's so I go,
I go, justa just get right to it. This girl
I'm banging. Okay, Okay. He gets on, Tommy starts cracking up,
and then you're almost more people are calling about what

(01:09:41):
douchebag this kid is.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Because here's why, because we get in it. Just think
of your own day. How much information comes at you
right right, especially in a morning. And if you are
a thirty five twenty five plus person, you've got your
going to work, you're got a boss, you may have
a project that day of meeting you're thinking about or whatever.

(01:10:03):
But if I hear someone on the radio go, hey, Billy,
this girl i'm begging says the guy's a douchebag, is
way better than hey, this girl I'm sort of seeing
kind of like, you know, well, we may sleep together
right about. I'm God, you hit me with that. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. That's where other people start going.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Yeah, you got to get everybody to say the most
important thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Right off the height. So there is an Then we
turned into Little Deuce Coop.

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
We took the Beach Boys song. We matched it up so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
It was But there is an art to all that stuff,
and it's entertainment at the end of the day. Because
I used to get really bothered when people go, well,
I'm just I'm real, I'm real, Radio, You're real. Okay,
I understand that I know exactly what you think you're saying.
But when you say, you know, I just just put
the calls on, just put the calls on. Not every

(01:10:53):
call is going to be a great call. And that
call was a better call because you did that. And
I'm not saying we didn't change what the person said. No,
it had the same. It was the stage message, just
a better way of saying it. And that's all. That
was the only thing. And to me, it's it's about entertainment,
and we were here to entertain, and we were here
to find these little tidbits out. And I wasn't like,

(01:11:16):
you know, there was a show in town, Kimberlyon Beck,
who by the way, I just thought of Kimberlyon Beck
the other day.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
I did two in the last segment.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Why about the the plane?

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Why didn't Tommy once? This is just a recollection story.
I wasn't working with you guys this time. But when
she was doing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Yes, yes, yes, oh my god, yes, he called her
mss Piggy and she went fucking crazy. Not crazy. That's
not fair, that is not fair. The woman held her composure,
but she was very hurt by it. Yes, but they
look I started to think like I used to sort
of get a little envious because I'm like, they they
left mournings, right, that opened a lane for mornings for

(01:12:02):
for something for somebody, right, And and they went to
afternoons on the station I happened to be on at
the time, and I was like, well, of course they're
going to do great because there's no talk competition. And
then and when I stepped back today and look at it,
I go, oh, no, they were just really good. I

(01:12:23):
mean they may not have been what I necessarily, but
they were good for really good. They were excellent. And
when others came in, there were two shows at least
after them that I can think of that just couldn't
do it, just could not do what they did. And
I went, well, that was a dumb thought I had.
That was a dumb thought. That was a that was

(01:12:44):
a a weak person's thought, was what that was. That
was a jealous thought, like of course they're going to
do great. Not necessarily other people came in and they
had the same competition and they couldn't do it so
at all I'm saying, and I I, yeah, they were
they were very Uh well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
They built that equity over years too, Yeah, sure they did,
but you know what, they were good. They were good
because if they weren't good, they wouldn't be in town,
they wouldn't still be on the air.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
Nope. But they had their style, yes, and they like
to kind of get into the dig into the things
and sort of call people out. And my thing was,
I didn't mind calling people out, but I like the
humor aspect of Yeah, I like I like it with
like a wink and a smile right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Now, like like like if if there's like a Times
of Wayne County story, right, let's say, like a head
scratcher story, they would always take the sides of the police.
We would always take the side of the loser.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I would try.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
We would always if I get fun because Tony Kohnheiser
and Sports Radio said, the most interesting story is always
in the losing locker room. Of course, the most interesting
story is always the guy who committed the crime. Like
when Paranello and merit Ron were going and the DA
had convicted merrit Ron, they were so proud to have
Sandra dor Leon to talk how they convicted. We had
a paradol there. He was the more interesting story with

(01:14:03):
him in the courtroom and slam on the door.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Yeah, yeah, all of that ship right, Yeah, Because and
and rightfully so they there were many. I mean, look,
they were successful. They were successful in the morning. Yes,
they were successful in the afternoon. And I've known guys
who've gone who did morning shows and went to the
afternoon and did not have the success they did not.
I'm thinking of a couple of guys in bigger cities

(01:14:26):
that I can think of the.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Guys in Buffalo. They to put back on in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Oh okay, I just whatever. But the point is like
they were, they were good, and I uh, I was
I was weak for thinking about we were different styles.
And I always like and even here on the podcast,
I got a message. I get messages once in a while,
please don't ever bring me up on the podcast again.
And I always say, I'm not trying to hurt anybody.
I never wanted to hurt anybody. Now I can get

(01:14:54):
very very hot under the collar, much like my son said,
I can become two people, and I can say a
lot of ship in a moment because it's red hot
and the feelings are big and they're flying hard and
they're basically I am verbally punching you like verbally hitting
you know, and that and that's terrible it's not not
a good way to be. Then I calm down and

(01:15:17):
I feel bad. And Danny's been on that. Hey Dan,
I'm really sorry. Such have I not?

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Yes? Not during this podcast though, or the incarnation of
this podcast. We're talking about like when we work in radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't think that. You've never No, I've only seen
called up what. I've only seen you flip out on
anybody on the podcast one time. Yeah yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
Me, No, it was not. And I even felt bad
about that. Are playing Van Halen tubes? All right, We'll
take a moment people putting their hands on other people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Yeah, did somebody put in their hands on Joey Bosa's calf?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
I don't. We'll get to that as well. We'll get
to Josh Allen's wedding. We'll wrap this all into one
big sports thing. But I got to play you the
announcer for the Abbotsford Canucks. The Abbotsford Canucks, Yes, yes,
Ahl and they may be playing are Rochester Americans? Are

(01:16:23):
they in or they out? I don't know. They they lose,
they're done, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
But the goaltender Devin Lev got a lot of criticism
for not taking it to another level.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Okay, but this is fans and then Brian Winhorse from ESPN. Yes,
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Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Your daddy, God, I got a beds.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Oh, I'm all.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
For years people used to say this song is preferred.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Okay, they did, they did, okay, And I listened to
him like, I'm not sure it is. So this was
on the board of the USA album. Yes, I had
the cassette. I played this song over and over. I
loved it so that it was nineteen eighty four. Yes,
so I'm about twelve thirteen years old some winner and

(01:19:50):
my dad came in and he's like that song is
about rape or incites rape or something, and then took
it out, step on it and handed me the eight
dollars for it, like paid me, but broke it. I
couldn't have looked to so I really wanted to get
into Bruce. I would have bought a lot of Bruce

(01:20:10):
after that. And then I wound up liking That's how
I went, Well, what can I like? So I like
Uey Lewis like I was. But then as I got
a little older, I figured, fuck all these people, and
I went I fell in love with the stones, so
they weren't even worse. But what I why do you
what did you think what people said? This is perverted?

Speaker 1 (01:20:29):
Like that's what like like your father was, Yeah, it
was like it was was talking about inciting rape or
violence toward a woman. Yeah, we're having this unquenched desire
to go out and do something, so I'm gonna do
Holy boy, I imagine it horrible things? Do you? Honey?

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Videos used to be like many movies. I didn't realize
I forgot. And this is Bruce is a mechanic, and
as they're the opening thing is Bruce is under a
car and I go here she comes again. She wants
to if she requested you know, oh who? And the
guy kicks his foot because he's under her car like
Rays and Randy would be. And she brings in like

(01:21:05):
a fifty seven Chevy and she goes, oh, can you
have it done for me by tomorrow? When she comes over,
says hey, and he pulls out, Hey, how you doing?
And she's like, oh good, she said. And you can't
tell what this woman looks like because all you're seeing
is a skirt just below her knees and more wholesome
shoes than I would have thought. I'm like a slutty

(01:21:26):
shoe guy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
And so I vaguely remember the video now yeah, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
And she says to him, could you have it ready
for me tomorrow morning? And he said, yeah, I can
even can even bring it out to you. And she said, well,
we live way out in the hills. And he looks
up and that's where he sees like the wedding ring
and the engagement ring, and then the song is he
desires the woman. Yes, right, and hey, little girl, is
your daddy home, meaning like her husband in a right,

(01:21:54):
like maybe she was a trophy wife because she's got
this nice car, and she keeps coming in, according to
the video, specifically to see this.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Mechanic she's stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah, one of the guys goes, she likes the way
he rotates a tire. Wait, I can tell you it's
like right in the beginning of the video, it's very
I never realized.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Here she's bringing it in again.

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Gets a cartooned up once a week, well jazz for
our friend here personally way rotates hire and then she
comes in, likes the way she rotates he rotates the tire. Yeah,
it comes in once.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
But then when I saw the video and heard the song,
I was like, no, it's not what this Knock's not
about that. It's about like, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
I thought it was for lusting out sexual tension. Yeah,
lusting after a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:22:43):
She wanted him, he wanted her. But it was like taboo.
But you know, we're gonna have this fantasy. That's all
it is. It's not like about like going out and
doing anything stupid taboo, well beyond adultery.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
Speaking of stupid dan people putting their hands on people.
I said to you, the Abbotsford, the Knucks. Listen to
the announcer in this game, this is real. Got some yeahhoo,
you're chap chirping, happy from behind, Get out of here?
What was he doing? Security? Try that again. I'm fired up.

(01:23:20):
He threw my chair at me. Listen in the beginning.
I think this is the guy's chair, the announcer's chair
landing at his feet. Listen, you're here the thud some Yahoo.
You're chap chirping happy from behind, Get out of here?

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Some Yahoo?

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
What was he doing? Security? I can't tell if it's again.

Speaker 1 (01:23:43):
Definitely Canadian.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
I'm fired up. He threw my chair at me, get
me right in the back of the leg, like, what
was he doing here? Unreal?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
Have another beer? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Inappropriate? Right? I mean, what the fuck is it with this?
Brian Windhorst is a ESPN basketball uh and I'm not
an analyst but.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
Reporter, your reporter. His claim the fame was he had
he had covered Lebron James' entire high school career and
ESPN he wrote for the Akron Beacon Journal I think,
and then since he was covering Lebron, esp had hired
him to get the story. Well, is he gonna go
to Miami? Is he going to go to New York?
Is he got when when he was a free agent
with the Cabs? And he ended up not breaking the story.

(01:24:30):
Chris Brussard and Stephen A. Smith end up breaking the
story that he was eventually gonna go to Miami. Well
that's why they hired Windhorse. But windhors like drew a
lot of contacts and he's a heck of a reporter.
I don't think the guy sleeps, to be honest with you.
During basketball he was.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
He was after the Knicks beat the Celtics and I
believe this was in Boston. Not sure. Uh, this is
him walking well, although he says, uh, he had been
bullish on the Celtics chances to come back in the series,
but this since where he was maybe it was New
York because it was twelve thirty five in the morning,

(01:25:04):
and he says, these were not Knicks fans. But listen
to what this guy comes running up to him with
a camera on like a phone or something, pretending he
has a microphone in his hand.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
How do you feel about both to lose him?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
I'll take now, he said. I never felt like it
was threatened. But there's another angle where you can see
they put hands on me, and I'm going, what what's
happening in the world where people feel like, I don't know,
it's isolated incidance. You gotta look at the world as

(01:25:40):
a whole. It does, but it seems to be happening more.
We had two There were two uh secret service agents
women outside Obama's house. They got in a fight. They're
his secret service. They got in a fight where one
of them calls up and goes, you better get a
supervisor down here because I'm about to whoop this girl's ass,
and then they see my camera to throw it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Don't make Michelle come out. I kicked both her wraps
for she could do it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
I just I go, what's happening? You know? Uh, Mary
lou Retton got a DWY. But I'm not I know
she was near death and then apparently he was out celebrating.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
But Mary Retten the Olympian or Mary not Mary lou Renner.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
No, Mary lou Retton the Olympia, whis yes, who had
a severe pneumonia. They thought she was gonna die that
we thought it might have been COVID related. But she
was in bad, bad shape and she just got a DWY.
So she's back.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
She's good.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
She's fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
She could blow into the into the end of the test,
which proved she had a DWY, which means she had
the lung capacity. That's her past pneumonia.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
She's fine, fifty nine year old something. But I'm not
sure she put her hand. I don't think she did.
I'm comprehend I'm conflating. I'm conflating stories. But there was
another one where people like, what the fuck is going
on that we feel that it's necessary to start putting
hands on people, Like we're angry. There's a low level

(01:27:05):
anger in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
Yeah, I think, I think. So we see more frustration,
get inflamed more. Yeah, we get more jealous of people.
I'm not gonna just blanket social media and blame that.
Let's go to the Windhorst thing. Okay, Windhorst, you know
that guy for social media clicks, right, Well, here's the thing,
not just social media clicks. It's the fact that, like,
everybody's got opinions, and if you disagree with my opinion

(01:27:30):
or if you disparage my team, I take that personally.
This and since I'm on Twitter and you're on Twitter,
we're both equals. Even though you're a reporter, my opinion
is just as valid as yours, maybe more so. So. Now,
if you don't like like what I think, or or
subscribe to what I think, or say what I say,
then I'm gonna come after you and call you out

(01:27:50):
for being wrong. And I think that's where that may
have escalated.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
This is my theory of you're not wrong, you're dead
fucking wrong us as social media because I got my
tribe that emboldens me. And that's why on this podcast,
more than anything, I probably I know that there's a
coaster here with a lot of the things I say
on there. But one of the things I always say
is an opinion is halfway between fact and fiction. I

(01:28:17):
don't think this one's on there. An opinions halfway between
fact and fiction. And the only reason I always say
that is because of exactly that that you just laid
out exactly that. Remember, you're not one hundred percent right,
and neither is the other person. You're entitled to it.
I'm not saying that. But let's not get so fucking
thing to where we're going to blows over something that

(01:28:39):
means nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Nothing means nothing. That's probably canceling people's careers because of
something they tweeted out or something they wrote on social media.
I mean, for crying out loud, we've lost our collective minds.
Why because we have the luxury of time in America,
time and everything's on our phone. We carry our phones
with us. Our phones tell us everything ever every moment.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Look, I think there are people that you know, when
the pendulum goes one way, everybody wants to swing back
a little bit further the other way, and somewhere in
the middle is right. Let's take the just as a
quick example. But nothing really do with putting your hands

(01:29:20):
on each other. But to your idea of the cancelation,
you look at some of the things that were going
on in the me too, and there was bad shit
that was getting called out, yes and rightfully, so did
it go too far to the point where some stuff
just didn't need to be And my question will always

(01:29:41):
remain if like a child, you just want to get
them to be correct so they behave in society, if
we see somebody who's doing something that we deem inappropriate,
whether it be a sexual joke or whatever. Look, you
had a guy out here telling you inappropriate jokes, just
when two of them of them right, two of them

(01:30:04):
with your jokes like you, I would be uncomfortable to
hear that in mixed company. Yes I'm dead serious and
I know that. And for me to say that, yeah,
so okay. That So we're trying to get rid of
that kind of shit that makes people uncomfortable because for
many years people wouldn't say anything and just have to
be like, got here comes that fucking asshole again, and

(01:30:25):
you didn't you were uncomfortable and you don't have to be.
But we also go the other way where if if
you're not telling somebody this is wrong, and why and
not giving them a chance to correct it and be
a better society. Now, all we're doing is just like
in my opinion, you're putting an underground and making people

(01:30:46):
really angry. And believe me, they're gonna pop up again.
Oh yeah, because all the people that are coming in
that have this anger and want to put this stance,
they will fail because there's nothing there beyond the anger.
They're just angry people. They're angry people. Look at their
life seriously, think of someone who's done anything like this

(01:31:08):
at all anywhere. Look at try to get to find
some things about the person. I will say this, most
of them pretty angry, got some anger stuff going on,
feel like they were slighted. Whatever, This is their way
in now. They got a little bit of power, but
that's all they got for the moment, and it's going
to dry up. They're going to see there's not enough

(01:31:29):
talent there to make anything go anywhere, and it will fail,
mark my words.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Yes, absolutely, no. I mean the thing is just like
with social media. I mean we used to say things
in our living room that we don't only sing in
our living room. Our living room has become our thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
Right exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
My phone is also my living room.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
I've thought, why would you throw there on third and what?
Speaking of that, Speaking of third and one, Joey Boss
is hurt before the season. It's a calf injury. Do
we worry about this?

Speaker 1 (01:32:06):
Dan Well, the joke about Joey Bosa cover the was
the fact that hey wrap him and bubble tape. I think,
I mean, this might be part of the reason why
you went out and drafted all these guys. But so
they signed three dudes this offseason, two of whom are
suspended and can't play for the first six games in
their defensive tack height.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
And he can't play.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Yeah, I remember, like defensive tackle. He can't. Yeah, he
can't play. He got suspended for peds and they knew
that that before they signed him. But what they didn't
know was Oka Joebi also was going to fail a test,
and so after they signed him, he failed a test.
So the two of them are gonna be out for
the first six games. Now you got Bosa, they go,
he will be probably okay by training camp. But the

(01:32:50):
guy got a calf injury, a soft tissue injury while
doing nothing, virtually nothing. It was OTA's there's no power, no,
So No. The point is this, I think is gonna
be used in the von Miller role, like, Okay, we
really need a sack here. Can you think you can
go out and not get hurt on this play? Please?
Because they'll give him a one year deal, right, like
a prove it deal and boast like if he if

(01:33:12):
he could like be healthy, he's fantastic. Yeah, but like
the best ability ability is availability, and right now he's
not even available to practice in freaking May. But I mean,
I loved I've always liked the Bosos, both of them.
They're fantastic. And for a Michigan guy to say that
about Ohio state guys, that's that's my praise.

Speaker 2 (01:33:30):
So yeah, so Joey Bosa, I forget who else would
we Who else did they pick up that?

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
I'm not remembering that they well, the receiver Wise Palmer
and then Elijah Moore, who some people are like, hey, man,
I saw him at OTAs. Man, I gotta tell you what.
Just keep it in context, man, But this guy looks good. Okay,
I'm like, Okay, that's promising, but keep it in context.
Well they say, no, yeah, they did keep it in context,
you know, because these guys have to report stuff. They

(01:33:55):
have to say something. Yes, you know, so I don't
blame him for that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:59):
These are voluntary workouts.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Yes, voluntary workouts that wink quick. You know you kind
of have to show up.

Speaker 2 (01:34:04):
Josh is there and he's getting married this week. He's
getting married.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
While his ex teammate Stephan Diggs was the only guy
I got to reported new wikl But he's out a
boat with CARDI being pink cocaine?

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Is pink cocaine a rapper? No? Oh, oh, you mean
like sink.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
Pink allegedly allegedly allegedly so I don't know. But but
Josh Allen was at Camp Man he OTA's with his
teammates on the week of his wedding. Yes, that's commitment.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
That's commitment. Oh it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Let me tell you something. You've been married. Pink cocaine.
Hang on, I'll get there. What is pink cocaine? Poison control?
What is pink cocaine? Uh? Pink cocaine is a powdered
mixture of drugs that usually does not include cocaine. I
thought that would be a thing, but instead a combination
of other drugs. It is pink in color. Due to

(01:34:57):
the addition of food coloring and sometimes strawberry or other flavoring.
It is most commonly used by young people in the
club scene. Pink cocaine is usually either swallowed in pill
form or snorted as of power powder, rarely injected. Were
the effects. Pink cocaine can cause a friety effects because
nobody knows what's in it. It's a fucking cocktail. Yeah,

(01:35:19):
it could be ajax. The fentanyl thing is scary, but yes,
so okay. I didn't think cocaine was like, I can't
imagine anybody dying cocaine right, putting food coloring in regular cocaine.
Not that it hasn't happened. Maybe it did. Maybe there
was a party, maybe they had a you know, you know,
I've only been I've heard about white parties where everybody
wears white thank you, right before labor. Yeah, yeah, yes,

(01:35:42):
the white parties. You'll see them a lot in the
summer and stuff. I think probably made famous by the
Great gas Beat as white tux. I don't know if
he had a white party, I don't remember, but the
cocaine would be white. It would fit in nicely. Pink
cocaine is the latest street drug. According to CBS News,
this is from November of last year, the death of

(01:36:02):
music star Liam Payne, sex trafficking allegations of John Dude
comes a deadly carker. A lot of people just think
it's the new powder that's going around. It's a pretty
pink powder and everyone started using it when it really
started increasing around mid twenty twenty three. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Anyway, So there's a video of him like with these
ladies in bathing suits and bikinis on the boat. All
his teammates are out at OTA's yeah, and like he's like, hey,
don't do it all at once, just telling him. So,
the Buffalo News did a story about twenty twenty three
about this. They updated their story today.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Oh it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Had nothing to do with Stephan Diggs supposedly, But since
this story comes out, the Buffalo News decides to dig
this story back up and republish it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
And why because dig Because Steph Diggs digs.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Yeah, he's had a lot of problems this offseason.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
He's gonna accused the stuff that's interesting. And Josh, now
let me go back to that week of your wedding.
Do you want to be around you know, Josh is
footing the bill on all this stuff and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Not that money that I was just gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
But what happens is people overstep in laws, maybe your
own mother, father, somebody. And this this has got celebrity cachet.
You have a singer actress marrying the MVP of the NFL. Okay,

(01:37:40):
so some people saying, now the best quarterback in the NFL.
He is arguably the best quarterback in the NFL. So
I don't know, but I would think that being a
practice is a perfect distraction. I mean, they're paying me
like Loostructed just backed up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Yeah see that ring on your finger. Yeah, baby, I
got her work.

Speaker 2 (01:38:05):
No, she probably gets it.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Yeah, yeah she does get it. But but yeah, but
so on the last show I was on, I made
fun of Rochester. I'm not gonna make fun of Buffalo
a little bit. Okay you made fun of Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
because we picked on a small town, you know, small time.
All right, you want to talk about Buffalo being small time?
Why back in nineteen ninety five? And I don't think
Greg Connors was friends with Jim Kelly at this.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
No, but I know who was. I know some people
who were at that wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Jim Kelly got married. Every news station in Buffalo covered
the wedding live. They were there, okay, live.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Yes, why not? It was the fall of a bachelor
who had a reputation in town, so much so that
he put a bar in his basement so people wouldn't
go out. He couldn't be ou out right, And now
everybody's got a bar in there. Baby, But he went
to four Super Bowls. Yes, okay, but I mean still though, still,
I don't care that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
I guess live, we're live from Jim Kelly's wedding. Got
a already, not because nobody's watching the news on a
Saturday night, But Kelly's wedding we got I mean they
had like they were like on sea, like they actually
did the newscast. Problem the freaking wedding outside. You think, like,
I don't see anybody doing that for Josh Allen's wedding

(01:39:18):
because it's supposed to be kind of quiet.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Yeah, well, I didn't even know he was getting married.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
Yeah, that's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I didn't know. Uh. I think Weez was at Kelly's
Jim Kelly's wedding.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
I'm sure he was.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
He was, he was invited. Yeah, Jim used to come
on and down quite often. Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
We set up a gift too. Then we went up
to Casino Diagara. Is that even a thing back then?

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
I don't even know, Bro, I don't know. I'm afraid
to ever comment on some of those things because it
comes back blowing with such force, sometimes in my face.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
So I just did Greg Connor's getting invite that Josh
Allen's wedding. We got to ask him, Oh, because he's
not as close without as he was with Kelly Callers
of Ferris.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
I've done your commercials, Yes he has. I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that, Dallas. I think
that I wouldn't be surprised if Greg is at the wedding.
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
I can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Yeah, me too, I can see it. You know what's
funny is I haven't really heard from him. Oh no,
that's not true.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
I think he texted me the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
I didn't get you got text.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
But no, he sent me something on Instagram. Yeah, Bill's take.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
I've got probably seven or eight that I haven't gotten to.
I write stuff down. I have things that I just
have not been getting to. I got to get more
disciplined in my day. I've been collar coding my calendar lately.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
So if Craig did get an invite, is he taking Jennifer?
Is he taking Kevin?

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
No, he's taking Jennifer for sure. No, no, no, you
definitely got no no no, no, no no. But Kevin's going
to be his drive.

Speaker 1 (01:41:00):
About.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
He's gonna ke Kevin's gonna get so mad he does
he gets really, I don't know. I have no idea.
He's in tomorrow though, right, yeah, Laura, And if you're around,
welcome not well what else it works for you?

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
I gotta figure this out.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
You some work stuff, yes, no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
So I gotta take Friday off the plan of Memorial service,
and you got to pick cocaine. I'll be the next
one for damn Brillo.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
I'm Bill Moran. We'll see you tomorrow.

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